Rambling 161: Disaster Week

What caused an apocalyptic scale storm to suddenly appear over Earth? What is the source of this mysterious signal seemingly manifesting from nowhere? And what is Bigfoot? The duo cope with the death of Weather Deity Phil the groundhog and must scramble a plan together to damage control the aftermath of this dangerous tragedy. This on top of the fact that there is an unidentified signal emitting from space. What is the source?

Rambling 161: Disaster Week

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Topics Discussed

  • Phil Groundhog Died
  • Weather God
  • Adrenochrome
  • Apocalyptic Storm
  • Frosty The Snowman
  • Abominable Snowman
  • Sasquatch
  • Bigfoot
  • Yeti
  • Space Signal
  • Spacetime Distortions
  • Universe 3 Portal
  • Dark Stars
  • Time Travel
  • Cat Gods

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

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Jack: Yes. And this show is, you know, most enjoyable if you've got a listening partner. So if you go. If you go get it, you get one. You go get a listening partner. Look, look, look, look.

Cristina: Why should they get a listening partner?

Jack: Why not? They should get a listening partner. Listen to this episode completely. You don't walk away once you've started. You make it through. Then you go find somebody to listen to this show with, and you bring them and you do whatever the show says again. So now you go out a second time to find somebody to listen to, but now they have to as well. And it just keeps happening. The same person comes listen to the same episode to show somebody else.

Cristina: Why would they want to listen to the same episode?

Jack: Because you have to listen with somebody to talk about the show with. And whoever listened to it first is gonna have more ideas about it because they had it, they heard it once, so it can be sharper. The second person, they want that experience, too, which is part of the motivation to them getting somebody.

Cristina: What's the motivation of that person to go look for a third person to do that again?

Jack: He's way more informed now. Every time he listens, he's way sharper. So he's, like, getting smarter than everybody he shows the episode to. And when he shows the episode to them, he brags about his knowledge base about that or even even better, listens to the episode, goes and searches anything discussed to expand their knowledge. And then get another listener and listen to the show with them. And then they randomly pause it to talk about, oh, well, they mentioned this thing. This is what I know about the thing. How fascinating, right? Anyways, let's keep listening. And then the next thing shows up and like, oh, well, what I know about this is. And then little by little, they become masters of that one episode. But it always seems like they're listening to it for the first time.

Cristina: They should eventually just make their own.

Jack: Episode about that episode. Yeah, and link us.

Cristina: And link us.

Jack: Yeah, we will listen to your episode, about our episode, and then we'll talk about. Look, anybody's listening to this and does own a podcast. Do it.

Cristina: Do it.

Jack: Do it. And then tag us on, like, Twitter or Instagram, and then we'll go listen to that episode. You got to title the episode that just conversation podcast, by the way. Actually, that's a rambling podcast. Yeah. So you got to title it the Rambling Podcast. You titled the episode the Rambling podcast. And then we go and we listen to your episode about the rambling podcast. And we're going to title our episode in which we review your review of our show.

Cristina: But we'll name it after their podcast.

Jack: Name it after their podcast. But then they have to review our review of their review of our show.

Cristina: Yes. And it's only about this specific topic of whatever we're talking about today.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And nothing else.

Jack: Nothing more.

Cristina: Just each of us reviewing each other on the same topic.

Jack: No, well, it's not reviewing each other on the same topic. It's reviewing the episode that was reviewing. Yeah, well, the first one, they're just reviewing this episode.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because they're so informed. They did a bunch of research and they collected a knowledge base. Then they make an episode.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then we make an episode reviewing their episode. And then they're gonna make an episode reviewing our episode that reviewed their episode based on our episodes information and just on and on. We could just do this forever.

Cristina: Why would they want to do that?

Jack: It'll be great. It'll be the meta cast.

Cristina: Yes. We should do that, like, once a year. Maybe it shouldn't be, like, every episode.

Jack: Fair enough. Like. Like the annual review of whatever podcast we get tangled in forever now.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we're just gonna have a brother podcast or a sister podcast, I guess, depending on whether podcast is male or female. Our podcast females.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Cars.

Cristina: We have to ask the pronouns of the podcast.

Jack: Like, those are sister schools. Are these sister podcasts? Well, they're not related yet, but they're gonna be step podcasts.

Cristina: Step podcast. That's what.

Jack: Oh, yeah. So whoever's listening to this and has that idea, get really informed on everything we discuss this episode. There's a lot of things to talk about this episode. Because tragedies occurred and happened and life sucks and things suck and everything sucks. I hate everything.

Cristina: Why are you so sad?

Jack: I'm angry.

Cristina: Oh, you're angry. Why are you so angry?

Jack: Because subhumans are f****** stupid.

Cristina: How?

Jack: They killed Phil. We actually caught Phil, and then they f****** killed Phil. You know how long?

Cristina: You know how long killed Phil?

Jack: They starved Phil out. He needed adrenochrome. Then he got feral on the f****** ship. And then in order to protect everybody who wasn't a subhuman. Because at this point, I'm like, f****** Janeway that ship. And kill all those a******* for being too stupid to just have, I don't know, steal his supply. You don't need to make more. Just take his supply with you. I don't. They were just taking him to Mars. We were gonna interrogate him there, but they didn't. Like, aren't you guys supposed to be super absurdly intelligent?

Cristina: Aren't they?

Jack: They're supposed to be. This is an alleged detail that seems to have missed this one flight.

Cristina: Whoa. What if we lied to this whole time? What if they were never smarter, stronger, etc.

Jack: I mean, that would 100% prove why they're so expendable.

Cristina: Yes, yes, that does add up.

Jack: That's also why they can't overthrow us. Like how?

Cristina: Ah, so everything was a lie.

Jack: No, I doubt it. But they failed horribly. You should just take in the drinochrome he already had. Why did you take him and not what we know factually? He needs to function.

Cristina: We can always clone him and send that version.

Jack: He's already dead. We didn't grab samples of him.

Cristina: There's no fur or anything.

Jack: He's a dude. No, no. He's mixed with. H***, it doesn't even matter. He has adrenochrome in his body. He's mad. DNA running in there.

Cristina: Yeah, it would be complicated.

Jack: Yeah, it's impossible to decipher which part of the DNA is Phil. Oh, okay, so we caught Phil.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, he turned out to not be Jehovah.

Cristina: They checked that before he died.

Jack: We know he's godly. Yeah, his powers aren't so godly that he could beat us. Ah, okay, so he's godly, but like, we can handle that level of God.

Cristina: But like, Santa Claus can beat him up.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Santa Claus is on some horrish. Santa Claus could be actual Jehovah, so that's not really a comparison.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But he's weaker than the. Weaker than Jehovah.

Jack: Yeah, but. Yeah. So Phil's dead.

Cristina: That is sad.

Jack: We caught him after many, many, many, many, many months.

Cristina: We waited a whole year.

Jack: Yeah. We have this plan.

Cristina: Has been since last Groundhog Day.

Jack: Yeah. And it took a couple of dumbasses in one f****** space flight. Just like, how do you. How do you f*** this up? So we've done this a million times. There's so much s*** on Mars. We've done this a million times. How is the one thing we needed.

Cristina: Nothing else has died from not having adrenochrome in Mars.

Jack: Well, it didn't die because it didn't have adrenochrome. It got hostile and it's godlike. On a ship filled with people we need. Oh, if it was just subhumans on that ship, I've been like, f****** blow the ship up. He'll serve. F****** Phil will survive in space, but can't do anything. And then we go capture him again, this time inject them a couple of times with adrenochrome or however the f*** he drinks it or whatever he does with it. Yeah, and then we sedate him and throw him in the f****** cage and take him to Mars. No. No adrenochrome on a ship with important people who are on their way to Mars as well. And then we got f****** whatever sub humans decided to be stupid and not get the adrenochrome. And now we have a hostile, rabid giant. By the way, if you remember, the groundhogs without the adrenochrome become giant feral f****** monsters.

Cristina: They do. I thought they didn't.

Jack: No, because when they're feral, okay, they become these giant f******, like super beaver looking thing. Oh, you remember we saw a giant beaver demon or what a f***. That's what Phil becomes, okay? And we had that on a ship, okay?

Cristina: And so they had to.

Jack: They had to f****** dispose of this f*****.

Cristina: At least it happened after he did his thing.

Jack: This thing is useless now because we're all f*****. He can't mediate the weather anymore.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if anybody thought climate change was real, which it wasn't, now it is. Because the person who was stabilizing climate is f****** dead. And since yesterday when it happened, and the temperature in our localized region was at 15 degrees today, the next day, it's already destabilized to 50 degrees. So we are f*****. Thanks, subhumans.

Cristina: That is a change.

Jack: That is kind of like tornadoes everywhere kind of change.

Cristina: Tornadoes every. Oh, my gosh. Tornadoes. I saw a giant epic fog coming here. It was ridiculous.

Jack: Yeah. Everything is f*****. Wow, it's. It's so f*****. If you look at the news, somehow out of the blue, unpredicted, doesn't know where it came from, suddenly formed a frost front with a snow back and a blizzard in the middle.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, my.

Jack: That's just headed towards where Phil was fighting from.

Jack: I wonder why it's happening.

Cristina: It has to do with Phil. Whoa. I mean, Phil's death.

Jack: Phil's death, because Phil was keeping all this s*** at bay, proves It.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So at least now we know what he was doing.

Cristina: Yes, now we know.

Jack: We thought psychic and just adrenochrome creature. No, he's godlike. We already thought he was literally God from how overpowered he seemed to be. And he was really overpowered. Not Jehovah overpowered, but pretty overpowered. Overpowered enough to control the weather, not just predict. Actually, that being said. Being said, the region of the United States where the destabilization has happened is half of the United States, which is actually a bigger region than Jehovah has ever influenced.

Cristina: One point, he had almost the world. Right.

Jack: Jehovah? Well, no. His word kept traveling, but he only interacted.

Cristina: Oh. From the. Okay.

Jack: While Phil was actively interacting with what seems like at least half of this country.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And this country is bigger than the entire series of countries surrounding the area where Jehovah was interacting. So it's arguable that Phil, through adrenochrome, is more powerful than.

Cristina: Or at least it was ruling way more.

Jack: Yes, well, he wasn't ruling anything. His power was just reaching farther.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: While Jehovah was only influencing a very minuscule region, Phil was kind of, all things considered. Yeah. If we do that comparatively, he's kind of more powerful than Jehovah.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: The question is, is he more powerful than Zeus? Zeus had a significantly larger area than Jehovah.

Cristina: How much larger? Not larger than the United States, though.

Jack: Roughly about the size of the United States collectively.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. No, it's probably smaller. It might be half. Yeah. So. Wow. So adrenochrome just, like, s**** on better than gods. Unless you're Santa somehow.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's too overpowered. I don't understand. But that's the topic that we'll save until we get.

Cristina: Eventually we'll find out he also does adrenochrome.

Jack: Can you imagine it, really? We go and we study this man, and it turns out it really is St. Nick. And he's just been going in. He's been going ham on adrenochrome, possibly with whatever creature. The fairies. Not the fairies. The elves are. So we got the elves. They aren't regular elves or some sort of type of fairy. And St. Nick going in on adrenochrome, and we got this weird Santa thing where nobody gets hurt, but all the fear still had. It's just genius.

Cristina: It's genius.

Jack: Fear through joy.

Cristina: Fear through joy.

Jack: He just tells you, you can have joy, but I'm not gonna punish you by making you miserable. I'm gonna punish you by not letting you have the joy. You want the joy. Right.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Then you do good things. But if you do anything bad, which it's. It's. We're human. It's inevitable.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So then you can do the bad fear. Little. Oh, that joy I was promised just got a little less likely. Oh, no.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Overpowered. Overpowered system. Good job, Santa. You figured it out.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You are way overpowered.

Cristina: So crazy. What about the other guys that help him? We never talked. I mean, we have talked about, but not in that episode of, like, Krampus.

Jack: And Frosty and all these. Yeah, Frosty's a weird one. Because the argument is somebody has powerful enough magic to move the sentience of one being into an inanimate snowman.

Cristina: It's gotta be Santa.

Jack: That's. Frosty was probably made by Santa. I know Krampus wasn't. But Frosty. That could not have happened in nature. Unless we're confusing it and Frosty is a mythological creature of some sort and we just haven't connected those dots. We do know Sasquatch's counterpart is the abominable yeti.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: The yeti's counterpart is the abominable snowman.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're all made out of.

Jack: They got, like, fur and humanoid shape.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Is the abominable snowman.

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Really? So maybe the name has led us to picture a snowman. But if we went and looked at Frosty.

Cristina: Might look like a yeti.

Jack: Might look like a yeti. Like a bigfoot that's white. An abominable snowman. So he's the abominable snowman called Frosty. We hear Snowman. The toxin hangs out at the North Pole, and it's really just an op bodyguard they got up there.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Okay. Yeah. Maybe he's not even an actual snowman.

Jack: Actual snowman. This is actually interesting. This is something we have not investigated and we should definitely look into. And this one is probably provable so we can. We don't have to worry about locating a Santa. If we can just find him and actually interrogate him. He's probably kind of overpowered and particularly dangerous. If we were to talk about trying to get to Santa, but we could be like, can we talk to you?

Cristina: Mm. Hopefully he talks to us.

Jack: Yeah. Assuming he's not some creature that took f****** adrenal chrome or some s***, we should be good.

Cristina: He might be. I don't know. The hard part about talking to him is, like, the bigfoot doesn't want anyone to contact him. He's always hiding and stuff. Like, wouldn't it be the same problem?

Jack: Yeah. Also, why haven't we caught a Bigfoot?

Cristina: Because they disappear.

Jack: Well, here's.

Cristina: They travel like fairies.

Jack: Yeah, they do. They do. They do. There's powers. And I will tell you what's interesting about this. It's a creature with a bald face and bald hands, but hair everywhere else in their body. With magical abilities and a humanoid shape.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Does that sound like any other creature that you could just apply adrenochrome to? Why isn't Yeti just a gorilla that took adrenochrome?

Cristina: It's probably.

Jack: Probably is. Right? Yes, it probably is.

Cristina: Well, we don't have any proof.

Jack: We don't. This is all speculation. And testable. It's easily testable. We just got some couple of sub humans. Hopefully don't f*** this one up.

Cristina: They couldn't be humans, though. I feel like what if humans can become more than one thing?

Jack: We have no proof of that. We know the humans have become vampires and then when they do not have adrenochrome, become zombies.

Cristina: And we also know about werewolves that were humans.

Jack: Well, that's totally different. They got turned because of an animal.

Jack: We're talking a werewolf is a person who had a mutation with a wolf.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Versus a win dingo or a wetchudge. That is a wolf that has been exposed to adrenochrome. Those are two vastly different creatures. And what is it? Wendingo is the conscious elevation when you're still getting adrenochrome. And the wetchudge is when you've lost it and you become some feral demon trying to kill everything.

Cristina: Yes. You become a cannibal.

Jack: Yeah. So that is very different than werewolf. Werewolf. Because werewolf is a person who has their DNA mixed with a wolf.

Cristina: Yes. Mixed with a wolf. Mm.

Jack: Yes. But that's where we are. One. Yes. That just gave us a couple of ideas. We gotta go find a yeti and a Bigfoot and an abominable snowman. 1. Compare all three because why are you guys different? How are you so similar and different?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And with the Abominable Snowman, we can get questions if he's willing to talk.

Cristina: And see if he's actually Frosty the Snowman.

Jack: See if he's actually Frosty the Snowman.

Cristina: It could be the same.

Jack: Yeah, could be. If we find them where we're looking from you. The alternative is we don't and actually do find a snowman. Who the f*** knows? So. Yeah. That sucks about Phil. About Phil does suck About Phil. That being said, totally not related to this. We got a strange signal.

Cristina: An alien signal is the only type of strange. I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. It's hard to explain because it's. It came from space. We sent people out to space and it was seemingly coming from nowhere. Like literally nowhere. There was just a gap in space.

Cristina: Where it was coming from.

Jack: Where it was coming from. Like we went there.

Jack: It was by the meteor belt. And subhumans did anything and everything to figure out like they zoned into the inch of where it's coming from. And it's like there's literally nothing here but a signal emitting from seemingly nowhere. And it's scrambled. We can't understand it.

Cristina: What.

Jack: So that immediately caused a couple of problems and you know, quite interesting anomaly to come across.

Cristina: That sounds really crazy.

Jack: Yeah, it's really weird because we've gotten signals in the past. We recently talked about the wow Signal that was reached in the 70s. We know that that echoes back and forth repeatedly. We've got received own signals all the time. Yeah, we know specifically the wow. Signal was sent forward in time. Was sent forward, Went through some space anomaly and jumped backwards in time. So we received our own signal before we sent it because. F***. Time travel.

Cristina: Yes, but this may or may not be something like that.

Jack: Well, the ongoing theory amongst the subhumans at the moment is that whatever disturbance the portal is causing could have created a rip powerful enough that there are little bubble pockets everywhere.

Cristina: What kind of damage is this portal doing?

Jack: We need to stop it.

Cristina: We do.

Jack: We kind of have to stop this before all the universes merge into one or whatever the f*** is happening. Have some f****** no way home bullshit happen.

Cristina: Or like in the flash where all the universe became one.

Jack: Wow. That's really just the same thing, isn't it? No way home. And the flashes. Flashpoint, aftermath.

Cristina: Yeah, it's the same.

Jack: Wow. That's crazy. Is that crisis when all the universes become one? That is crisis, right?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Crisis of many earths or whatever.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Interesting. I never noticed that. Yeah, that's totally the same s***.

Cristina: It's the same thing. Yeah, it's a dude in red.

Jack: Dude in red. And somehow his actions resulted in the smash of all realities.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Seems legit. And he jokes a lot. They both work.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. So that's kind of f*****.

Cristina: So what's the one? Just research.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. So we got to look and see what the h*** is happening. We've made some headway already. You know, we again, we Went there. We saw where the anomaly was coming from. Or didn't see where it was coming from. We saw the space where there should be something that's emitting the signal.

Cristina: The plan isn't to get rid of the portal, is it?

Jack: We don't know. We don't know. It depends on how dangerous the portal is. And also, how would we get rid of something that no matter which direction we go through it, it takes us somewhere else. Okay, how do we touch this portal?

Cristina: Yeah, so you can't actually destroy it.

Jack: Yeah, we need expertise, but. Okay, so what do we know so far? The portal has created interference through at least three separate universes that we're familiar with. One, two, and three.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We have no access to universe two anymore because the directly connecting portal there we destroyed on the other end. So it goes to nowhere. And we continue to receive reports that we are broadcasting just as widely in universe three as we are to universe one, which is our universe. The question is, are we getting a Signal from Universe 3 the same way they're getting a signal from us? Is our signal seemingly coming from nowhere? Except most people probably don't know how to work with receptor technology and have no idea where the signal is coming from. They never even questioned it. So they just log in, they see, oh, cool, show whatever, blah, blah, blah. They're reporting on fictional news or whatever think is happening. Yeah, but if they were to follow where the signal is coming from, it's not on their planet, and it's just somewhere in space in their local star system.

Cristina: You think it's happening in world three?

Jack: Yeah, I think our broadcast comes from nowhere. And I think we're seeing their broadcast. The problem with the theory proposed. This is proposed by our smartest of subhumans, the ones who have been doing physics as a thing the entire time. And the proposed theory has one momentous giant, ridiculous hole in it, which seems difficult to resolve, which is we connected a television to supervise Universe 3.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't have the technology to get as far into space as we see the signal.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: Well, presumably the location of our systems is just different enough that their earth is slightly moved, a couple of, you know, macroscopic units to one side or something. So we're coming from nowhere. So maybe in the nowhere that we see in space, on their end, there's a planet there.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And there's something on the planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The problem is that would require them to have the technology to get to the farthest parts of their own star, which they don't know, we barely have that technology. Everything else we've done is steal somebody else's technology. And that's why we have absurd Technology.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We just confiscated from creatures.

Cristina: Met a lot of aliens.

Jack: Yes. So we keep confiscating technology. Some people just give us things, depending who we're interacting with. Yeah, they don't have access to that. So how would they broadcast from one of their farthest planets if they haven't even gotten to their closest planet? Two theories to plug that hole up.

Cristina: What are they?

Jack: One is alien life that they're not even aware of. So if we can. We're thinking it's scrambled message.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Maybe the message is not scrambled. Maybe the broadcast is clear. We just don't understand it. Because it's alien.

Cristina: Because it's alien. Yeah, that makes sense.

Jack: That's one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Second is a little more exotic, which is to say that the signal is coming from a planet and it is a human signal from Universe 3, but it's coming from a future of Universe 3.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. We already know that the black hole is causing not just space, but space time. Because they're one. It's f****** with space time. Not the black hole, the portal.

Cristina: Portal, okay. Yeah.

Jack: Portals f****** with space time. Yes, in general.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: In fact, it caused a series of events to happen before the hole was created. That's how far back in time it's affecting. So we know it's messing with space and time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Presumably that applies in any instance of its interaction with anything.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the signal we're getting might be from a future in that space. So it's a different space in ours, in a different time than ours, and a different time than their own. Because it's just a point in space time taken. And we're receiving that information. Which is also to say we cannot prove whether they in universe 3 are in the same year we're in. Maybe the reason they have not reached our technology is because they're actually in the past.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: And when we look at them, we're looking backwards to their past.

Cristina: What I thought we were in the same years.

Jack: Could be or could not be the portal. Like if we were to find a non time space fuckery hole there, would we arrive at a different time than the space time anomaly portal in your backyard. Is that f****** with time as well? And thus when we look through it and anybody goes through it, they're going back into Universe 3's past. And as a result, a hole that isn't f****** with time, just simply bridging the two Locations would take us to their present and they would look more like us.

Cristina: Whoa. You think they'll look like us? I doubt they'll ever be this advanced. But I mean, maybe. Yeah. In the future. Like, we don't know how long in the future it will take.

Jack: Well, wherever we are now, would they, at the same year, have more or less the same technology? It would make sense because Universe 2 worked that way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if we are all parallel universes, they should only be a little different. The massive differences we see when looking at Universe 3 right now seems like they're way removed. And could be the case the portal could just be connecting us to a really, really far universe that isn't in the slightest bit similar. But also, maybe it is, and we're just looking into the past.

Cristina: We could be looking into their past. What could we prove, though?

Jack: And that's why this would seem even more ridiculous to them, this technology they couldn't fathom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yet.

Cristina: But it could be aliens.

Jack: But it could be. There's a lot of explanations to what is going on.

Cristina: I feel like aliens is the simpler thing.

Jack: It is an easy one. Yes.

Cristina: But it's easy to disprove as well.

Jack: Yes. If we can go there at the time of the broadcast. We just need to find out when the broadcast is taking place.

Cristina: Okay. Because it's not all the time.

Jack: What do you mean? Like through all of history? Yeah, no, yeah, we're getting it right now. We just have to go and see. And I guess from that universe move. I guess the idea would be take our time machine there with the receptor, go to the region where the signal is coming from.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And just start moving forward until we catch a signal. And there should be something there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When that happens.

Cristina: So there is gonna be some time traveling involved.

Jack: Yes. We're not gonna do it. And we're also going to do it. We're gonna install the time machine on a ship in space so that nothing is interacted with. It's just in space. We're not messing anything. We're gonna look.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're also gonna. The ship should also have cloaking. We should have both visual cloaking and to any kind of radars or in detectors that are out there so that we're invisible to everything from all sides. And we're not on the location where something's gonna show up, but we're near it so that when we catch a signal, we know.

Cristina: And we can just investigate.

Jack: We can investigate, touch nothing, interact with nothing, alter nothing. Just find out whether this is Humans or alien life. And whether it's the right time or the wrong time or whether it's even coming from that universe, we could, in theory, be looking at the creature. And it's just a type of creature that we are just not receiving. Our senses could, in theory, not be perceiving the life form that's there.

Cristina: That is interesting.

Jack: And it's not even in a different universe.

Cristina: It's just.

Jack: It's outside of our literal perception. Our senses can literally not pick this life form up, but they use technology that creates waves we can pick up.

Cristina: Yeah, but that would be a creature in this world, not in.

Jack: That would be a creature in this world. Well, on the flip side, that could be a creature in this world. That could be creature through many worlds. It could be a creature spread out through dimensions. I don't know.

Cristina: Yeah, what.

Jack: But that's a complicated experiment to try to find something that our perception can't detect.

Cristina: We need to figure that out.

Jack: That's a complicated problem. So. Yes, so we had to get in contact with some physicists that are experts beyond our subhumans, and with the help of our subhumans, brain power. Because obviously these people are experts in their fields, and subhumans are astoundingly intelligent. The combination of we give you information, they process it, then they return it to the scientists, and this bounce back continues can probably answer that question. So we've had to get in contact with a plethora of scientists, of scientists. We've already done that. We've talked to a crap ton of physicists, astrophysicists, chemists, engineers, work on radios, radio technology, astronomers that are just scoping space. All. All the stuff, yes, we've done all the stuff. And we've come in contact with a lady named Catherine Fries, and she is expert not just in physics and astrophysics, but specifically space time anomalies. And specifically anomalies that alter the fabric of space. Which is good.

Cristina: Which is good.

Jack: Yes, exactly. What the.

Cristina: Gonna help us or. She's already helping us.

Jack: She has agreed to look at the data.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: Yes. So, okay, let me give you a little background here. Catherine Freese is a astrophysicist that has discovered the. Actually a theoretical astrophysicist. She is a theoretical physicist who's discovered in math, the existence of what is called a dark star.

Cristina: A dark star?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Have you heard of a dark star? I don't know.

Jack: It's a term that is quite elusive, doesn't get mentioned quite often.

Cristina: I've heard dark matter, and I think that's it.

Jack: And dark matter. And dark energy.

Cristina: Dark energy, yes. Totally different things, right?

Jack: Yes, actually she works with both of those things as well.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Catherine Fries has discovered the dark star, which is suggested to be similar to black hole, and the dark star that is titled to be kind of like made of dark energy.

Cristina: Kind of made, yeah.

Jack: So we don't know what dark energy is, but there is a collective of energy that behaves like a star. And she is also responsible for that math discovery, theoretical physics, and her mind applying what she knows to come up with these conclusions. So a dark star is basically all the characteristics of a black hole, except rather than there being a tear in the tremendous dent of the fabric of spacetime, there is no dent there. I mean, there is a dent. There is no tear in the. The furthest, deepest part of the dent. It. The fabric hasn't torn. It's just really, really indented to such an angle that light cannot escape. It's not fast enough to compensate for the amount of traction it needs. Black hole, create deep hole. Dark star, create deep hole.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Light no escape. Deep hole summary.

Cristina: Sorry.

Jack: All right, so yeah, she is the discoverer of that, and because of that, she is quite qualified to deal with energy based, space based, time based problems.

Cristina: So she'll help us out.

Jack: She said she'll look at the data.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We don't know if she'll help us out. It could look like ridiculous nonsense to her and totally not be worth your time.

Cristina: Oh, we got a time machine.

Jack: We do have a time machine.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And a quantum computer. She needs it.

Cristina: And a portal and a portal.

Jack: We have interesting things for her to work with if she's curious. And there's nothing a theoretical astrophysicist that works with space time anomalies would find more interesting than a space time anomaly portal that you can only theorize about.

Cristina: That's amazing.

Jack: Yeah, it's like candy. That happens to be crack.

Cristina: It's crack.

Jack: It's crackedy crack. D and she wants crack D she has to want the crack D It's the kind of crack D she would like.

Cristina: It's the. What's that blue stuff? It's the blue stuff.

Jack: What blue stuff?

Cristina: From breaking breath meth? Yes, the blue myth.

Jack: It's blue sky.

Cristina: Blue sky. Oh, that's what it's called.

Jack: Mm, Blue sky. So, yeah, that's what. Where we're at at the moment.

Cristina: Yes. That's crazy. That's still depressing about Phil, but this is very interesting.

Jack: Yeah, it sucks about Phil, but what the f*** can we do, man. This is kind of a real crap turn of events. We needed him.

Cristina: Crazy. Like, what are the chances? What are the chances when we're gonna go find him, he just dies?

Jack: Well, he didn't just die. Well, we kind of literally had to kill him.

Cristina: We killed him but to protect everybody.

Jack: Else on the ship. Because who the h*** makes the mistake of. Like, we all know you don't just take a heroin addict off of heroin. Yeah, he will die. You don't do that, problems will ensue when desperation kicks in. That's the most dangerous person in any room now.

Cristina: Yeah. So it was our mistake.

Jack: Yeah. If something gives you f****** powers and you're addicted to the f****** thing, should we take you without the thing that makes you stronger and more overpowered than everybody we've ever met?

Cristina: What happened there then?

Jack: It was just crazy lapse of judgment. I don't understand how nobody had the idea of. Maybe it's a good idea if we have this there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He has an abundance of it. Come on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, why didn't we take adrenochrome just to study it?

Cristina: That's a good question. Why? We had a bad day.

Jack: Yeah, it was. We don't make many mistakes, but God d***, when we do, it compensates for all the mistakes we haven't made.

Cristina: Yes. Oh my gosh. We haven't had such a bad day.

Jack: Since we destroyed Mars.

Cristina: I was gonna say since we died the first time.

Jack: Did Mars get destroyed before or after that?

Cristina: Be after.

Jack: Maybe Mars got the. Straight after that. Maybe.

Cristina: I don't know the timeline.

Jack: Look, the first couple of clones weren't the best of people. Yeah, there's a lot of dark there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: A lot of horrible things happen. I actually don't remember. I keep forgetting which one I am. Yeah, but whatever. So, yeah, that's the catch up that we've. That's all we've got when it comes to what's been happening this f****** week. And the fact that we. A year.

Cristina: A year.

Jack: Year of planning meticulously and strategizing and figuring it out. We're getting close. We're planning the.

Cristina: You know how like so much mistakes after mistakes after mistakes. That's so crazy.

Jack: I don't know how this happened. It's just frustrating. I'm not happy right now. It is just a sad tragedy.

Cristina: But we know where to find Adrenochrome at least, right? Like they will still have it.

Jack: Like we have to go back for that.

Cristina: Yes. I think we need another year. We're gonna wait another year no, we're.

Jack: Just gonna go get that adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, right now we're not waiting a.

Jack: Year for the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We're just gonna send them to go retrieve the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Alright.

Jack: Least we could do is study a functional batch.

Cristina: That would be great. Okay, That's a good plan.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yes. Let's do it.

Jack: We're gonna go reclaim the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We're going to go find a yeti, a Sasquatch, which is presumably the same as a Bigfoot, but those could be different. Sasquatch, Bigfoot, Yeti, and the Abominable Snowman. Four creatures, man.

Cristina: There's four. Okay.

Jack: Two snow and two woods.

Cristina: One has to be the feral of the other, right?

Jack: Interesting. Yeah, interesting concept you have there. So the argument here is, cause Sasquatch is what's dangerous, right? Not Bigfoot. Bigfoot is just mystical and hiding. And Sasquatch is all the horrible stories of something. So some sort of ape, presumably a gorilla, that seems to already resemble and tend to be way bigger than humans in general.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Takes adrenochrome and becomes a Bigfoot. And they're overpowered. Magical. Intelligent. Way more intelligent than humans. Elusive. But when they run out of a supply after their body has adjusted and they go feral. You get a Sasquatch.

Cristina: Yeah. And I don't think the snow one is an ape. Because it's snow.

Jack: Because it's snow.

Cristina: But there's a bear that lives in the snow.

Jack: Oh, s***.

Cristina: They're big, they're white.

Jack: Then. Then we're not dealing with a gorilla. Maybe that's just a black bear or a grizzly. Wait, did we establish this before? I feel like we did come across this information before.

Cristina: So I don't know. I'm not sure.

Jack: Bear kills someone. They were horrified. In the process. Their body creates adrenochrome. The bear eats the body, consumes the adrenochrome, turns into a Bigfoot, runs out of adrenochrome and devolves into Sasquatch.

Cristina: That's possible.

Jack: It's quite possible. With the probability being there are more Sasquatch out there than Bigfoot. Because Bigfoot is who's elusive while Sasquatch is who we have horror stories of people have interacted with Sasquatch. People look for the non feral intelligent one avoiding humans.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay. But we're not sure if it's a bear or a gorilla.

Jack: Not sure. But if we assume, and we can confirm this once we go and find out, yeah, but actually, we can find out.

Cristina: Sounds right.

Jack: Yeah, it sounds right. Well, if we were to capture one or get one to convince. Convince one to let us take a blood sample. We could test whether this is a bear or an ape. But the same would apply to the abominable snowman and yeti.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because I believe yeti is the intelligent one and the abominable snowman is oftentimes referred to as some sort of monster.

Cristina: Yeah. Interesting.

Jack: So there is. I think we got thought out version and a feral version to what's probably just the polar bear.

Cristina: I feel like. That's right. I feel like they're bears. We've been wrong all along.

Jack: And the basic name to it tells us a lot too. It's a polar bear that lives towards the North Pole.

Cristina: Yeah, that makes so much sense.

Jack: Also polar opposite to the other one.

Cristina: Yeah. No one's noticed that connection. They're all thinking it's a monkey or something like.

Jack: Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

Cristina: Why would a monkey be in the forest? Do monkeys.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Well, I thought it was the jungle.

Jack: That too.

Cristina: That too. The forest and the jungle.

Jack: There are forest monkeys.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And there. I mean, not in the United States. I don't think there's natural monkeys in the United States. I have no idea.

Cristina: That's where they're found in the United States.

Jack: Which would make sense about bears.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that doesn't stop monkeys from existing in forests.

Cristina: But where. There. Where Bigfoots are found, though?

Jack: Well, Bigfoots are found. I doubt. Well, the problem is that Bigfoots are found everywhere on Earth as long as there are woods or jungles.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In jungles, Bigfoot is anywhere there are trees to hide behind.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Doesn't matter where you find the trees. If there's a lot of trees, there could be a Bigfoot there or a Sasquatch, whichever one you're using. But they could be counterparts, the same thing.

Cristina: Yes, I think so.

Jack: Yeah, I think so too. So we either find four different creatures or find. Collect, I guess, a stash of adrenochrome and get two normal creatures.

Cristina: Yeah, we just change them ourselves.

Jack: Here's. Here's where this kind of becomes a little risky. And we could face a similar problem to Phil, though. Phil was way more overpowered than we thought he was. We had no understanding of how powerful he really was.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now we've kind of begun an apocalyptic weather problem.

Cristina: We'll figure that out.

Jack: Yeah, we have to. We have to. That's. We got no option. We f****** give adrenaline. Come to another F****** groundhog. And like, bro, hopefully you got these powers because we need you right now, dude.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which we would need the supply of adrenochrome to do anyways.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So once we confiscate this, we literally have the power to gift people adrenochrome abilities.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We need that stash. That is priority number one at this moment.

Cristina: Fix the weather.

Jack: That'll fix the weather. And without the impending doom of our main planet, we can safely proceed to go get. We already have the sash. We can get just a polar bear and a regular bear and give them both adrenochrome and see what happens if they turn into yeti and bigfoot. Sweet. We solved a lot of problems if they don't. We have another animal Jones. We study whatever they become. Obviously.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But we're f***** because what the h*** is a yeti? What the h*** is the Abominable Snowman? What the f*** is Bigfoot? And what the f*** is Sasquatch?

Cristina: We test the apes out.

Jack: We test the apes out. We get gorillas and test it out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Alternatively, if we can find these creatures, as elusive as they are, we have great technology. We have subhumans that are the greatest detectives ever. If we can send them out there to find the track to get these things, we don't need to go through this whole process and waste our adrenaline.

Cristina: Okay. Yes. That's a better idea.

Jack: And then we could just take a sample and have the answer. With a blood sample, we can tell what this DNA is.

Cristina: Okay. That sounds like a good idea. Why do we need them, though? It's just because there's another creature.

Jack: It's just because another creature we don't know about.

Cristina: We're just playing Pokemon in real life. Pretty much.

Jack: Yeah. Trapping a little of everything on Mars where they can escape.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: But what makes this particularly dangerous. Right. Is once we give these creatures. If they. If we don't find them and get them to agree with us. We're talking about creatures that are about as powerful as Phil.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like on a normal day before they go feral.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And if it goes through a panic as it's taking this form, who knows what. Who knows what? It could happen. We need to already have it on Mars before we begin any experiments in a region that is completely desolate and abandoned. We can't risk it causing some sort of magic problem.

Cristina: That is pretty crazy.

Jack: Especially because we don't understand how these powers really work.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We used to think Bigfoot was a fairy of some sort. We used to think Bigfoot Became the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Oh, shadow. Yeah. Because many different.

Jack: Because he's. He's seemingly the most elusive and complicated creature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we're kind of hunting the Big Kahuna right now.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We've dealt with crazy creatures before, but we've never, in all our years working, had a solution to. What the f***? Bigfoot. To the point that we usually don't even discuss it. We don't bother. It's too complicated.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now we have access to adrenochrome.

Cristina: Now we can figure it out.

Jack: Figure it out? If it's. If we can't find them in nature, we can recreate them.

Cristina: We can. There's plenty of animals out there.

Jack: The scary part is we have the motivation to recreate them. So we better f****** find them. So we don't need to recreate them because we don't know how that's gonna go.

Cristina: No. That's pretty horrifying. You don't want to use adrenochrome at all. No.

Jack: That should be the goal. Avoid adrenochrome. That is last resort. Information gathering tool.

Cristina: Mm. But, like, we still have to make more though, right?

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because if we're gonna test out every animal eventually.

Jack: Well, we're gonna try to find creatures.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That are already.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And there's an abundance of research we could do.

Cristina: Yes. That's way better. Okay. That's. That should be what we do.

Jack: Yes. Now we have the fear of if we really need to come up with the creature. Well, we have adrenochrome. We better find it so we don't cause some catastrophe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because we can cause a catastrophe. We probably will if we're forced to create it in order to gather the information.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So I rather just go and find the thing.

Cristina: It'll be easier to find it. Maybe not. I don't know. This is the biggest challenge we have.

Jack: Yes. Catching the most elusive anything that has ever existed in all of time. We have come across aliens easier. We did not catch a Chupacabra, but we have encountered the Chupacabra. You know, we have crossed paths with some of the most exaggerated things ever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And somehow have not once laid eyes on Bigfoot.

Cristina: Mm. That's very interesting.

Jack: We interact with gods.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And have somehow. We just killed a God. We killed the God of weather.

Cristina: That's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah. And have still not once ever seen Bigfoot?

Cristina: No.

Jack: We have altered history. I literally changed the future willingly by choice. I destroyed an entire planet of colossal, disgusting, war hungry cockroaches.

Cristina: They were not war hungry Whatever got.

Jack: Rid of the Reptilians, took their planet and just enslaved anybody left. We. We work on huge scales. We have literally tracked, found, and sent people to interact with the Egyptian gods that are now just hanging out in the great void.

Cristina: The cat people.

Jack: Yeah. And still not once have we seen even proof.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Of Bigfoot.

Cristina: We've done a lot. Wow. Yes. And with the elves. Actually, we didn't hunt down all elves. I found one elf and the elf.

Jack: Information. Yeah.

Cristina: He talked. And he talked a lot.

Jack: Squealed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. Quickly.

Cristina: So hopefully the Bigfoot's like that. Who knows?

Jack: Yeah. I hope some. Some are willing. It's not all these creatures are bad. Some are just willing to, you know, discuss things. They don't f****** care. Everybody has a rebel, and we just got to hope we find that guy. Just give us some information or allow us to take a sample or something. We're not bad guys. We're not here to harm you. If you are willing to part to play ball. We're willing to play ball.

Cristina: We have harmed some.

Jack: Yeah, but not if they're willing to just help.

Cristina: What about the roach? The grouch people?

Jack: War.

Cristina: War.

Jack: Why didn't we just trap the fairy you were talking to?

Cristina: Because you weren't horrified it was a fairy.

Jack: Yeah. We don't have to kill everything. We can. We can just gather data. Yes, that's totally fine. Yeah, we gotta hope that we could do that with Bigfoot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And we need to go acquire that f****** stash of adrenochrome.

Cristina: We have to.

Jack: That is absolutely crucial and necessary one. It's not being guarded by Phil. Apparently, Phil was overpowered enough to guard his own sash. We had no idea. We thought it was future sight. We thought it was future. Well, he's powerful. The great God is.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it's not being an addict. It's like, who is gonna trespass and take it from you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, but he. It was overpowered. And he was good enough to defend it himself because he's so strong. But now if anybody finds out about.

Cristina: It, oh, we're gonna be in so much trouble.

Jack: Yeah, there's gonna be trouble. We. The last thing we want is someone.

Cristina: Else to stumble upon it.

Jack: Yes. And it just making its way into the black market or something and just spreading out through people who shouldn't have access to this. Then we'll have a problem. Now we have a we gotta stop superheroes problem, you know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: S*** got f*****. Everybody's a God suddenly, and we just gotta kill all of them. That's Bad.

Cristina: That's pretty bad.

Jack: We definitely gotta go acquire this.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We're the first case I know of that has completely left a stash of the most protected substance in the freaking universe. That literally. The Chupacabra, by the way, if you guys don't know, is a freaking interdimensional God that comes here specifically for adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, that's how protected this is.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You can't get it f****** anywhere. And we just left a completely unprotected huge stash. We're the first people to f***.

Cristina: It's a bad day. It's a bad day.

Jack: Yeah, there's a lot that happened yesterday.

Cristina: Yeah, I mean, like, those clones are probably not alive anymore.

Jack: Was it even yesterday? What day was that? That was a. I mean, I guess that wasn't.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess it could have been yesterday.

Jack: Yeah, I guess it's. Yes. Well, I guess. Yeah. Because they captured Phil on Wednesday.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: After he did his thing.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Then on the flight, he died.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So was that Thursday?

Cristina: That would have been Thursday.

Jack: It would been sometime because he's going to Mars. That's what, like three day flight? So he died on Thursday. We got the information that he died on Friday. So. Yeah, I guess we found out about his death yesterday.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But like, yeah, we gotta go get that stash. It's been too many days already.

Cristina: It's been too many. Oh, my gosh. What if it's nothing?

Jack: Oh, now we gotta retrieve it. Luckily, we have trackers in the subhuman. So follow the trail and get to it. But we got to do that before they use it. We don't want a problem. We can't stop.

Cristina: We could do, like, what do you do what they do with UFOs and just blame it on a weather balloon?

Jack: Yeah, no, we don't need any of that. Last worst case scenario, we have a time machine. We go back and immediately confiscate the Adrenochrome right after Phil is escorted before anybody else.

Cristina: As long as.

Jack: Yes, as long as you interact with nobody.

Cristina: Yeah. What if someone took it the moment he left? That would be crazy.

Jack: I doubt instantaneously somebody manifested there and took it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I doubt that on so many levels.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We are gonna be. Who does that?

Cristina: Yes, we'll be that. Okay.

Jack: The moment it's clear, we just walk in and take it.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. That's a great idea.

Jack: Done. And that is how we're gonna solve that problem if we don't get there on time.

Cristina: All right, that's fine.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So I guess mess things up. Too bad.

Jack: I f****** hate time travel. Always f*** something up.

Cristina: That's why I hate this plan. But if we have to.

Jack: If we have to, we have to. But like is. Oh my God. The problem is amount of s*** that just. Even if we don't interact with anything, I don't know what the f***. Anytime we time travel s*** hits a fan.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it does. Like, I trust more the space time travel than the actual just time travel.

Jack: Yeah, me too. I hate time. I mean, that's why we've had this time machine. We haven't used this in like three years.

Cristina: Yeah, it's been quite a while.

Jack: It's been quite some time.

Cristina: But we gotta do what we gotta do.

Jack: I don't like any of this.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So much has been f***** in this week.

Cristina: Yes. It's been a bad week.

Jack: It's been a bad week. We haven't had a bad fear enough. It was overdue.

Cristina: And it wasn't our fault.

Jack: It wasn't our fault.

Cristina: So that's important.

Jack: That's good. That's a. That's a good turn of events. We're gonna get yelled at because they were under our care, but it wasn't our fault. We could be like. Well, some humans kind of f***** this one up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah, we followed the textbook this time.

Cristina: Doing what we were supposed to do.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I don't, I don't like. This sucks. This week sucks. And if we have to use the time machine, this week sucks more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Especially because then we got to figure out what, like, nothing got ruined. Whatever. No, something got ruined. We just don't know what it is yet.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We just gotta figure it out. We figured out. We gotta figure it out. We're gonna figure it out.

Cristina: We'll figure it out.

Jack: We gotta figure. We gotta.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And it's gonna suck. And like whatever turnout happens, if we have to use that time machine that sucks. We'll figure it out.

Cristina: Yes, it is what it is. Mm.

Jack: On the flip side, we never thought about this before.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We could just run a time travel simulation in the quantum computer that would tell us every possible outcome and know what's gonna go wrong.

Cristina: Ah, that's better. Okay, we do that. But that's only if it's not there.

Jack: Yeah. If we have to use a time machine, we could just run a quantum computation and find out.

Cristina: Good. Because we never use that either. This is a perfect solution. This is a perfect.

Jack: Last time we used was either to run the sense lacking experiment to test consciousness or the One time we were testing the Matrix by generating our own. One of those was the last time we used it. So we actually haven't used the quantum computer in longer than the time machine.

Cristina: Well. And we used it a little more. We used at least twice.

Jack: Yes. While the time machine was used for one instance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which was to kill to get rid.

Cristina: Of some cat people.

Jack: Yeah. It wasn't to kill. It was to beat their accelerated rate of multiplication.

Cristina: That's a weird solution to a weird problem. But solved it, I guess. Cuz there's humans still.

Jack: Yeah, Yep, yep. I mean, that's way in the future. But so are a bunch of people who should have been in our timeline right now.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So whatever.

Cristina: I don't understand how that makes sense. That doesn't make sense.

Jack: No, it totally does. We send people every 10 year gap.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Into the future. Thus there's a new fresh set of people willing to reproduce in that timeline. But every 10 years a new group of people shows up. Then keep having new people and whatever. So in this 2, 300 year period, we sent people. While the decline of humanity begins around this time that we are in right now. We actually didn't predict the event back then that led to the cat people taking over, but we're actively experiencing that right now.

Cristina: Yes. I didn't realize that. Yeah, that's happening right now. Whoa.

Jack: It wasn't just a virus, was it? Phil is dead. Was that part of the problem? Was there some weather catastrophe as well that helped the extinction of humanity and then the overpopulation of cats maybe? S***. Did we cause the problem that I had to fix?

Cristina: Did we?

Jack: Oh, this is the f****** problem with time travel. This is why I don't want to use it. Because this.

Cristina: But you are fixing your own problem.

Jack: Well, I didn't f****** kill Phil.

Cristina: That's true. Your team's problem. Okay. You are fixing the problem.

Jack: Problem that the subhumans created by being stupid.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So Phil dying. And the weather literally becoming apocalyptic overnight.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: so Phil. Then we have this virus that seems to be some sort of alien. So we have this alien virus attacking and consistently changing itself genetically to adapt to us and be more harmful.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We have pollution problem happening. Just general pollution. We've exceeded a certain amount. We're talking. We're f****** choking our planet out. The giant meteor that's headed our way.

Cristina: There's most of the planets underwater.

Jack: Most of planets underwater is. There's a lot happening. I understand. Now it's very apparent what we didn't know back then that like this is the moment that it began. This is the decline. This is the beginning of the decline.

Cristina: Because Phil is dead.

Jack: And Phil. Well, not because Phil was dead, but that's one of the things that's adding to it.

Cristina: Yeah. A big thing.

Jack: Big thing. Big thing. Big thing.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Crazy. Crazy. And that also explains now Phil dies and we have this giant jump in temperature and a three part storm front of crazy winds on one side, frost snow on the other and crazy hails in another, all smashed next to each other.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that didn't affect anything west. The reason fires have been happening over there is because Phil wasn't over there to stop it. And now we know he could only protect seemingly from halfway through the country all the way towards us.

Cristina: Yeah. But now he's gone.

Jack: Now he's gone.

Cristina: We lost our protection. Weird.

Jack: And the temperature jumped up immediately. Yeah, instantaneously. It jumped up. F***. Ton of degrees.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: From 15 to 50.

Cristina: So eventually we will burn. Like everyone.

Jack: We might be headed towards what people have been thinking was happening this entire time, except now it's actually happening because we killed Phil. Yay. So you guys are caught up. This is the wow. Disasters that we're dealing with right now. We are in. Yeah, Disaster week. Oh, I guess episode name right there. Disaster week. So, yeah, we're in cleanup mode. Emergency cleanup mode. Stop the world from ending. Emergency cleanup mode.

Cristina: Yes. And also some traveling crap we got to do.

Jack: Yeah, we got a. Hopefully Catherine helps us. Yes, hopefully. And we can solve a lot because we got new questions to answer and way more problems to solve.

Cristina: Way more. It just gets worse and worse.

Jack: Yes. And the possible investigation that we are partially the reason that humanity declined. And I had to fight that in the first place. So there's a lot of questions to answer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Questions that we've ignored for years and years and years because we're like, oh, it's fine, it's done. Anyways. That catches you guys up. If you guys are interested in finding out more things of this nature and finding out about all these discussions that we've had that now we have to slowly piece together and fix.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You can find those episodes on the official website greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts and.

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Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe. That's very important. You'll be informed when new episodes arrive and rate and review the show and tell us what you think about it. And please Be with us in spirit and prayer, because s***'s hard.

Cristina: Is there a groundhog emoji? Send us some groundhog.

Jack: Send us a groundhog emoji.

Cristina: I don't know if that's a thing, but maybe, maybe. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. Depending. Regardless of whether actually. If you're in universe one or in universe three. It doesn't matter. Actually anybody who in heaven, there's no earth over there. But if somehow you're f****** hearing this and you understand what we're saying and you're in universe two, f*** it. Share it too.

Cristina: And if you're in four or five or six, if there's more.

Jack: Look, if there's more universes we don't know about, it's f****** great. Whatever. Share it. Tell people. Just probably.

Cristina: Maybe let us know how though, in the comments. They can't.

Jack: We wouldn't get their comment. They'd just put it in whatever version of this land in their universe.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We'll never see it, but that's fine. Do it anyways.

Cristina: Do it anyways. And this has been. Actually, it doesn't make sense because they'll be universe one to themselves. It's not like they'll have a number, though.

Jack: Yeah, they don't know where the f*** they are. Everybody's Universal Universe 1.

Cristina: Yeah. So that's not helpful at all. All right. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. It doesn't matter what they said. Just I'm grabbing onto my hand.

Jack: Isn't that the fear of being a woman though? Being held by random strangers? That's just a thing guys do.

Cristina: Oh, yes. Don't touch me.

Jack: That's what I mean. That's just a thing that guys do.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They just go. And they touch women for whatever reason.

Cristina: Is it some weird like universe that men do that all the time to other men and it's normal.

Jack: Gay guys do it. Oh, guys do it regardless of to who they're doing it to.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, would you grab a strange girl's hand? I mean, not a strange girl, a guy. Would you grab another guy's hand?

Jack: No, but I'm not gay.

Cristina: Oh. It's just gay guys that grab hand.

Jack: Gay guys grab guy's hand regardless of straight or gay.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And guys, I'm. Yeah. Guys grab women. Straight guys grab women hands regardless of whether the woman is straight or gay or whether she wants it or not. And gay guys grab straight guy hands regardless of Whether they're straight or gay. And it's not just hand grabbing, it's touching and getting real close in proximity sort of invading personal space. There is a collective guy problem going on. It probably happens with women, but way less. Not to say that it's equal to rape. Rape wise, it's about 50. 50. It's just not discussed as often for women.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: But generally speaking, the violation of personal space. The problem is guys are way less sneaky than women.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so guys are just blatant and out there because they're like, society allows this from us. It's structured in such a way that what's a woman gonna do? The f*** she gonna do? Just f****** do nothing. She's gonna f****** back away and he's just gonna get closer.

Cristina: Yes. That is so gravy. Too.

Jack: F****** nothing's gonna happen to that guy. You can get scared, you can get off the train, he'll follow you for a bit, then you're going to go somewhere public and he's going to panic and leave and nothing's going to happen to him beyond that point.

Cristina: It's a horrible situation.

Jack: Yeah. And it's exactly how it plays out.

Cristina: It's not going to not be normal. That's so weird.

Jack: That's so f****** weird.

Cristina: Don't touch my hand.

Jack: And guys just do that s***. Just random guys. I don't understand what the mentality behind it is though. It is weird as f***.

Cristina: I don't know. Like, it's not romantic, is it?

Jack: No. I think, look, I think part of the problem is f****** pornography fried people's brains.

Cristina: You think people are following that?

Jack: Yes. Let's picture this. Plumber shows up at your door, he's about to fix your pipes and then he just gets too close and you decide, okay, time to f***. That's p***.

Cristina: Yeah, but she obviously wants him though. Like she's not like, oh, get away from me.

Jack: Yeah. It doesn't change the fact that guys have no idea how to read those differences. Guys are f****** stupid.

Cristina: Oh, okay. If he's in p***, she's very into it. She probably is the one that is like instigated.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz that's the guy's fantasy. She just wants to f*** me.

Cristina: Yeah, well, wait for that woman.

Jack: On the flip side, there's also such a thing as rape fantasies. Oh, that's problematic. There's also the fact that guys want to be the one to pursue. Yes, it's great to be pursued. But some guys want to dominate as well. They just like the, I, I succeeded at this myself. I accomplished a thing. She didn't want me. I made her want me. Now she does want me. That's so mentality.

Cristina: I don't know. That's kind of wrong, but. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister, with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 160: Edgy for Giggles

What is the cause of all the censorship in America today? What is cancel culture after? Why does blue hair make people extremely sensitive? Why are there so many creeps in the United States? The duo deep dive into cancel culture and why they’ve not canceled the corruptions that will side with them to stay safe.

Rambling 160: Edgy for Giggles

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • The Meaning of Words
  • Context
  • Sensitive Lefties
  • Spotify and Joe Rogan
  • Cuties
  • Pedo U.S.A.
  • Terrorist Countries
  • U.S.A. Invading Everyone
  • Scared of Bats
  • News Media Manipulation
  • Coward People
  • January 6th
  • Learn to Learn
  • Mars
  • Cockroach People

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified. Notified. Second, new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes. Be sure to hit that mother flipping we're PG now mother flipping button so you can get that God darn notification the second that mother effing.

Cristina: Is that PG still?

Jack: If you Mother effing? I don't know. Is it pg? I didn't say the bad word.

Cristina: Yeah, but wouldn't they know what that is?

Jack: Don't they know what I.

Cristina: What is? Mother flipping?

Jack: Yeah, like, obviously something else is meant to go there.

Cristina: Doesn't sound like it sounds like gibberish.

Jack: It does you. You know the movies of like the 90s and early 2000s, when they would, like, put it on TV to protect the children. We gotta make them say something so they like, dub over it some other s*** and just dumb sentences.

Cristina: I wish that was still going on. That makes no sense. Like, the kids are gonna be very slow. I don't know.

Jack: Did I fail just because I said right off the bat, should I said the R word?

Cristina: What's the R word? Oh, retarded. So for some reason I saw a post about that and I thought they were talking about rape or retarded. I was very confused about what retarded was. I mean, what the R word was. I wasn't sure. Yeah, like, okay, so it's retarded.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you saw the. The Twitter post?

Cristina: Yeah. And I. I wasn't sure. Like, I was thinking, is it retarded?

Jack: Yeah, I saw that too. That's what I was wondering. Like, okay, obviously that post is talking about the fact that we like. Okay, so the response from our end was we always use that word. Which is true, because it took all of a minute to get to retarded. Yeah, they were apologizing for having said it once.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: To make a point. But we totally drop it left and right, like, Well, I do.

Cristina: At least I'm not dropping anything.

Jack: You just did. You totally just said retarded.

Cristina: No, I didn't.

Jack: But here's the problem, dude. If somebody's getting offended by me saying the word retarded, like, you're adding a meaning to it that I'm not. Yeah, that's exactly what's happening here. You're getting offended by something that I am not saying because I am not referring to any type of person. I specifically think that's a dumb way to use that word. And incorrect because it doesn't mean that.

Cristina: All words are dumb. You can't tell what anything means. It's like you're just assuming what the meaning is.

Jack: Yeah, you're assuming. The problem is they're assuming what. It's so complicated. Right. Because the problem lands in that people are telling. Like you said something and I have a meaning for what you said even if you don't have the same meaning for what you said.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Well, I feel a certain way about what you said, so I'm offended. Even if you don't mean what I'm receiving and even if you clarify it. Well, you shouldn't have said it in the first place. Wait, but you don't mean the thing that I think.

Cristina: How would I have known you would have felt that way?

Jack: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It makes absolutely no sense for somebody to be that furious about something. Like, I do not mean somebody mentally handicapped and I do not mean somebody mentally retarded. When I say gay. I am not talking about a homosexual.

Cristina: You know, what are you talking about?

Jack: I'm talking about something that's whack.

Cristina: Whack.

Jack: Something's lame.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Something's retarded.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To me, retarded and gay mean the same thing. Which is neither mentally challenged or homosexual.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or queer by any standards.

Cristina: No, I understand how, like a commercial trying to get people to stop saying gay for some reason.

Jack: Like, saw a commercial, I feel like.

Cristina: I remember a commercial and they're like. Because it's somehow. You're not supposed to say. I guess it was a long time ago. Maybe my memory is wrong. I don't know, but I feel like there was a commercial trying to get kids to not say gay.

Jack: I don't remember that, but it's probably a thing.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Like, look, you can't just tell me what I can and cannot say. That's stupid. That's retarded.

Cristina: That's retarded.

Jack: That's pretty gay.

Cristina: That's pretty gay.

Jack: And not d*** sucking. No, d*** sucking's alright. If you like sucking d***, go suck some d***. That's cool.

Cristina: I don't think it's not.

Jack: That's homosexual.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean, unless you're a chick who's sucking the kick doesn't specify. I guess you could suck d*** in either direction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You'd be straight and suck d***. In theory, yeah. Factually, all things considered. Yeah.

Cristina: You could be whatever. I don't know.

Jack: You could be scenario. Right. You could be a straight guy who sucks a d***.

Cristina: I wonder what, like out of curiosity.

Jack: No. Somebody's got a gun to your head and it's a survival move.

Cristina: Of course.

Jack: You see? Solved. Anything. Anything that. That. That scenario applies to any. You could justify anything.

Cristina: Do you think there's ever been a straight guy who's just curious, though?

Jack: Straight guy who's just curious? Yes. I specifically do believe and know the usual way it goes is some particularly effeminate guys who have female tendencies. And then people are like, oh, you're probably. And then people are like, oh, you're probably. And it's like it gets in their head and they're like that should I find out? And so they try and they find, no, I'm just effeminate. Thick isn't my thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So yeah, I know people who've experienced that.

Cristina: That they confused piece of other people.

Jack: Yes. Even if they weren't interested. Like, s***, I guess I have all the behavior. Maybe I'm the one up. And then they go and try and.

Cristina: People'S words are confusing people words are confusing.

Jack: People are idiots. People want to choose. And it's just the left, dude. It's not Democrats. No, no. It's not liberals and it's not progressives. It's the f******. Specifically that f****** sociological problem. The left. The left, yes. Sensitive snowflakey b******. Because progressives, you got all the logic. Let's move forward with technology that makes perfect sense. Let's advance society as a whole. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Democrats. Yeah. Dude, we kind of can't just have elites running the show. That's f*****. We've seen how that looks in every other country. It's pretty bad. Fine. Great. Totally fine. Great. And what's the other one? We got liberals. Yeah. F***. F******. Let the individual be do, do and be who they want to be. Makes perfect sense. Okay. It's the leftist mentality of we get to censor because emotions matter more. It's like that's the conflict between the left and liberals. Right. Liberals are like the individual. It's like, well, no. Well, you can't. Well, what about that individual? It's like, yeah, but if I have to worry about them, then I lose in turn. It makes no sense. Is what example again, liberals versus leftists. The leftists are the one trying to suppress while liberals stand for the individual's rights.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's like, let's not constrict things. Let people be who they want to be. If they want to be gay, if they want to be straight, if they want to f*** each other, if they want to f****** hook, if they want to be strippers, if they want to prostitute, do all the drugs.

Cristina: Be overweight.

Jack: They want to be overweight. Whatever. Don't judge a person. While leftists do nothing but judge and they want to force their judgments on other people. So you end up with a leftist that's saying you can't say the thing because that person's emotions. But it's like then you're telling me that the way I am is wrong and that hurts my emotions. Your logic is f****** flawed.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. Because you're not caring about the person.

Jack: No, you're caring that you're caring about the people who already agree with you. You're not caring about anybody except your confirmation bias bubble.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is the problem with rightism as well.

Cristina: Rightism?

Jack: Yeah, people on the right, right wing people. It's the same thing the other way again. Republicans, nothing is wrong with that. We cannot have people unanimously decide and most of them are under educated morons. The same way they can't just have elites run it because then they'll brainwash, under educate and abuse everybody. You can also not have people just vote their way. And because the minority gets f****** shafted in every turn.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Okay. So Republicans make total sense. Conservatives. Yes. We cannot lose tradition or we lose who we are. It makes sense to balance moving forward with retaining the things that make us us simultaneously.

Cristina: That sounds beautiful.

Jack: Progressives and conservatives make sense. Republicans and Democrats make sense. Liberals actually exist on both sides. In fact, most liberals tend to be Republican. Although for whatever reason the leftists, Democrats and you know how they get bunched up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: For whatever reason they get thrown over there. And I don't know why. Because liberal ideology began on the Republican side. Actually, not the Republican side. The conservative side of have less government. Oh, that was a left. That was a right ideology.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Of like. No, we want to be not pressured by the f***. We want to be free.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Freedom above all. Freedom to just.

Cristina: Both sides are cool with that.

Jack: Yes. But the leftism on both ends is totally different. Not the leftism. The liberalism on both sides is different. Yeah, Liberalism on the right. The right means you are not being forced by the government to do anything. Less government is liberalism on the left. Similar to conservatism, which is, I guess conservative is really about tradition versus government. It's not really government base. While the liberals of the left Believe a person should be able to be whoever the f*** they want to be. You got to assume that liberalism on the right comes with conservatism and they're sort of related in that, well, you can't be gay. That's not a conservative ideology. You shouldn't do that. The liberal on the right. Yeah, you shouldn't do that. That's wrong. Okay, but the government shouldn't force a law down your throat either.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Liberals on the left are saying if the government can force a rule that protects you, then they should, so you could be whoever the f*** you want to be. There's total difference there. The left in blue says, we don't give a s*** what the government does. Just let me be me. Liberals on the right are. No, f*** the government. Just keep them out of my business. Just keep them out of my business.

Cristina: Okay? What, so there's two liberal groups?

Jack: Yeah, technically liberals are from all. It's the only problem is the leftists that f****** heavy. But the right do the same s***. They judge hard. They judge everybody.

Cristina: But they're not canceling everyone, are they?

Jack: No, the right isn't canceling anybody because the right also believes in being thick skinned. I should be able to attack you the same way you can attack me.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: The left is. They say the left twice while the rights are the ones that I just said. And the left is just Please don't say those words. Yeah. Oh my God. My feelings science, but my feelings science by my.

Cristina: That's very weird because they don't actually.

Jack: Support science either because based on some.

Cristina: Of these studies, if it works for me.

Jack: No, the problem is, for example, think of that study, right, with the. Which look, if you, if you listen to show regular. And you're hearing this again, I'm sorry, like it is what it is, you know. But think of the studies that they made about the women who get raped and the soldiers from war, from the, the early wars. What is it? The people from before the 90s and the people from after the 90s and the people who experienced the women who experienced, quote, rape and men who experienced going to war before PTSD was called PTSD and before there was any research on it. When studied without being told what the study is for, they were told that psychological evaluation. So they go in, they get these tests done. The older crowd, before PTSD became a popular term. So that group of people now, even after they found out about it, but they were already like 40 and 50 years old by the time that they ever heard the term the first time Those people had no signs. No signs of. On average, yes. Some here and there, but we can assume margin for error. The majority, like 90% of them had nothing going on.

Cristina: No trauma.

Jack: No trauma because the women of that time were told, well, you just do whatever f*** your husband says. That's what marriage is. They were. It was programmed into their heads, like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I was raised that way. My mother went through. Yeah, whatever. And they were fine. Same thing with the guys. Oh. You go to war, s*** happens. F***. You see crazy s***, and then you come back and you live your life. Yes. Here and there, somebody's messed up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But on average, that entire crowd that didn't have PTSD as something to lean on was fine. No problems. They run their lives totally fine. Not need medication, no therapy, no nothing. Just living life successfully. Low rates of suicide. Just normal people. And then you enter the era immediately after PTSD becomes very big. And people talk about it a lot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And what do you have when you run the same study on those people? All have depression. Almost all. It was, like, really excessive. It was like 98% or something. All had depression, PTSD, all on medications, could barely function and were triggered by mad s***.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Meaning what you believe is stronger than anything. And if you're believing, you have a victim mentality and they're hurting me and these words hurt me, and I'm getting offended. Well, you're gonna get offended. You're gonna get hurt. You're gonna be a victim.

Cristina: The world's complicated. I think trigger. Also that. I think I heard that. That word triggers.

Jack: You've associated tension with that word.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you expect to be triggered even if nothing triggering is said.

Cristina: Yeah. Like if you saw the same thing without the word trigger or heard you, you'd have been fine. Whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: It's weird, right? It's psychology. So these people who feel the need to force everybody else to do s***, that confirmation bias bubble that they're trying to bend everybody into. Nah, man. None of that is real. That's all in your head. That's why everybody else is f****** fine except you. That's it. They're the ones freaking the f*** out. Everybody else is fine except that f****** group of people.

Cristina: Yes, but they're very loud.

Jack: But they're very loud. But it doesn't do anything. It's like when they went against Netflix and f****** Lost and Spotify and Spotify and f****** Lost. Or when they f****** freaked the f*** out on the Internet at us. And it's like okay, sweet, bro. Like, what are you gonna do? 1. You can't cancel self sustaining people. Second. Your emotions don't matter to me. Yeah, you're garbage. I do not bend for somebody's emotions when reason is lacking. And the simple logic being if your emotions are hurt and I have to bend who I am to your emotions and my emotions are hurt, that s*** does not make sense. No, because we ended exactly where we were. Except now you're happy. The f***?

Cristina: But if I is just thinking about the money though, right? They're not thinking of like, my emotions versus your emotions.

Jack: Oh, I don't know.

Cristina: Maybe it's just.

Jack: Maybe they're making us.

Cristina: Making us money.

Jack: Maybe they're making a principled stand. I don't know.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know.

Jack: Netflix made a principled stand.

Cristina: A musician that went against Joe Rogan. Or like, he's saying if you don't put down his.

Jack: Oh, yeah, that's everywhere today. You saw that?

Cristina: Yeah, I think they're not gonna listen to that. Of course. They just gonna take away his music.

Jack: What's that? A couple of days ago he said that. Been reading about it all f****** day. Just seeing that s*** everywhere. I'm like, how the h*** did I miss this? But like, they don't give a s***. Spotify give a crap.

Cristina: They don't. I don't think so.

Jack: It's ridiculous.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: But it's like, you can't just bend to every. Because once, if, let's say they do get Spotify to bend, right? Well, now they expect you to do it every time. They don't like something.

Cristina: That's the problem. That's the start.

Jack: That's the problem.

Cristina: You can't.

Jack: You can't set that precedent. Netflix is like, we are not f****** with this. We are not taking s*** down for you. And they stuck to their guns. I like that. They stuck to the guns. Even for the cuties thing.

Cristina: The cutie thing. Oh, okay.

Jack: And the cuties thing is a weird one, bro.

Cristina: It's a weird one because it's like, that's America versus everybody.

Jack: That's America versus everybody. Because the world was like, what the f*** is wrong with these a*******? They think this is sexual. It's like, yes, everybody in this country is a f****** pedo, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. We all looked at a thing of little girls doing acrobatics and nobody thought, oh, wow, they're talented. Not one. All of the United States in tandem said, wow. Sex and girls who are underage. It's like, why is that what came to your f****** mind? They were like, wow, these are athletes. They can. They perform, they dance, they sing, they. These are talented women. And the United States had to be that one f*** nut, the weirdo. Yeah. That was like. But sex say, bro, they're minors. What the h*** is wrong with you? Yes. They need to take it down. Exactly. They're minor sex. It's like, why did your mind be. Nobody said s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Everybody was like, wow, interesting. A bunch of talent. And the United States was like, nah, nah, nah.

Cristina: They're dancing too sexy.

Jack: Yeah. You know they saw sex.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They didn't hear anybody else said it. No, they did. The Americans saw sex when they looked at little girls. And then they want to blame it on somebody else because they felt a little guilty. That's all it really is. That's all it really is. They. They found out s***. Not one part of this described sex. But that's where my mind went. So I got to blame f****** them for triggering me.

Cristina: That's sad. That is pretty much what happens.

Jack: They triggered my sex once while looking at little girls. Which also comes back to the fact that f****** Americans are obsessed with Japanese p*** of like schoolgirls, which comes from anime. That also forces that down people's throats. Of f****** big b*** anime girls.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah. So high school girls with big b****.

Jack: It wasn't like that before.

Cristina: Once upon a time, the girls didn't have big b****.

Jack: You can't fact you can trace back to the older animes before it became popular in the West. And just think of the animes. Think of the Yu Yu Hakusho that got made before it was popular, then got dubbed later and brought over.

Cristina: Like Sailor Moon. They're flat chested.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That got brought over.

Cristina: Inuasha.

Jack: Inuyasha. They got brought over. No. After anime became popular in the west, the b**** on these high schoolers got huge.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's traceable.

Cristina: Maybe they started eating our fast food.

Jack: No. They were looking at our overgrown girls and being like, well, they like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Do you see the problem? That's Americans being sexual as f*** to girls. Little girls. Americans are the same people who will go to the same Catholic church where a guy f***** a kid and be like, never happened. Where was this one? Even if the other 300 you heard about, you're like, there's only one here. It's like they just didn't get caught yet. Yeah, they just didn't get caught. They're doing it. There's too many for you. To really sit back and be like, nah. But the others are fine. Just like 3000 of these m************ in just a year. There's no way you really believe the rest of these guys aren't f****** your kids when you're not looking. But we, you know, we love to let it happen.

Cristina: We love to let it happen.

Jack: Will I fantasize about f****** little girls that I see in the f****** anime? I love that. I get my girlfriend, she does cosplay and she dresses up like that big b*** high schooler and that while she's in that outfit, man. So badass. And I got that fantasy where I'm the teacher and you're the student because that's not f***** up in every possible way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you know, you get naughty and then I hit you with the rule because that's f****** sexy. And it's like, bro, it's so wrong. The United States is just a country of terroristic pedos.

Cristina: That's what it is.

Jack: That's what it is. It's. Look, the rest of world sees us as a crime country.

Cristina: We are. Yeah.

Jack: We're a giant criminal syndicate.

Cristina: Yeah. Or not the only ones.

Jack: No, they're a couple. They're a couple. But we are the most pronounced criminal syndicate that happens to be a country.

Cristina: Because, like, South America's there. They're not.

Jack: They're not saints. No, they're. They're not saints.

Cristina: They're our brothers.

Jack: They're. There's a lot of countries on there. Yeah, there's a lot of countries on. Well, United States, I mean.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, why are we the only.

Cristina: Ones that call ourselves American if they're American? Also, I like, we're on America. They're on America. South America, I guess.

Jack: It wasn't called America yet. None of the continents were called America yet.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Americans were the first to call it America. Yeah. Then we're like, oh, the continent's America. If you're on this dirt, it's America. Ah, okay. Again, I thought it was just people in the country. I don't know. People. They're technically American too, but.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know how it plays out.

Cristina: Like, you're all. This is a huge group of Americans.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You think of all the countries.

Jack: I wonder if, like, Canada has. Canada's real. Really? It's weird that they're so similar and so different. Right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because like, they're not a f****** pedo terrorist country. That's like way, way United States territory.

Cristina: Pedos. Yes.

Jack: Terrorist. Pedos.

Cristina: Oh, terrorists, like Russia is a bunch.

Jack: Of terrorist human traffic out the f****** a**.

Cristina: I bet they eat people. Maybe.

Jack: I don't f******. F****** Germany does. I don't f****** know. It's weird. There's weird s*** out there. But they got consent cannibalism. That's weird.

Cristina: That's. Yeah.

Jack: I'll never forget that episode. Consent cannibalism. You guys heard that? We had an episode where that just got dropped in there. Don't know which one. Go look for it.

Cristina: It's somewhere about cannibalism. I'm pretty sure the whole episode was about it.

Jack: Really. It was. It was like Thanksgiving cannibalism or something.

Cristina: Yes, I think so. And then we just somehow. I don't even know how. Okay, so.

Jack: Ok, means you could probably just find that episode through the name if you're curious about it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But no, it's f*****, man. There are a couple of terrorist countries though. Like Russia is definitely a terrorist country. Germany was the leading terrorist country, but is now just good guys. Cuba, pretty heavy terror. Well, it's not. They don't f****** invade people. They're not terrorists. They are terrorizers of their own people.

Cristina: Of their own people.

Jack: They're domestic terrorists. But I mean like people who terrorize other people. United States for sure. Russia, China.

Cristina: Yes, China.

Jack: Middle Eastern countries.

Cristina: Korea counts. I don't know.

Jack: North Korea doesn't invade people.

Cristina: No, but.

Jack: And that kid is trying his best to fix a s***** situation.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. But I was thinking like people coming into the country or people trying to get out. But that doesn't count.

Jack: That doesn't count. Doesn't count. They have to be actively mobilizing and stepping on other people's dirt and then attacking those people. Yeah, no, and we do that all the time.

Cristina: So it's us, Russia.

Jack: Yeah. Isn't in fact the news this week that we are about to go terrorize the terrorists that are terrorizing the f******. Like we're just finding we're going to war. We're going to another one.

Cristina: Protecting Ukraine. Okay. Because Russia keeps on being weird.

Jack: Russia keeps on keeping on.

Cristina: They keep being weird. Being weird how? Helping. What's that other country? Taiwan.

Jack: Because they have no resources for us. We only help when it's beneficial.

Cristina: That's so.

Jack: And they're not white.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Ukrainians are white. They're light skinned.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Oh.

Cristina: That's what they have.

Jack: Taiwanese aren't f****** white. F*** them.

Cristina: They have to have something. Like China wants something from them. They got some resource there.

Jack: Yeah, but the Chinese are Asian too. They're like they're other people. We don't consider the Taiwanese people because they got nothing for us. Oh, my God, that's a lot American logic right there. Okay, we won't attack them. They got nothing. They have way better chance than somebody like Iran. And we're like, no, we're attacking the s*** out of Iran. There's such a danger. It's like there's nothing there but dirt. Yeah, but the oil. I mean, danger.

Cristina: The danger.

Jack: The danger. So what? What danger? We have nukes and tanks.

Cristina: They travel. They hide. They hide very well.

Jack: They got caves. That's horrifying.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What? Yeah, they hide in caves like bats. Aren't you scared of bats?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How scary. Ooh, bats. Like. Oh, s***, you're kind of right. I am scared of bats. They hide in caves. You serious?

Cristina: Are they like monks just meditating in those caves?

Jack: No, they're running from our bombs.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: They ran there to survive. That's where the Taliban was hiding until we disappeared. And they were like, wait, they're gone.

Cristina: I guess country now.

Jack: I guess Iraq is another terrorist country. Yeah. Oh, United States, Russia, China.

Cristina: The one that we just left. Because that doesn't count because we made it.

Jack: No, it's still a terrorist country. It's a whole country run by terrorists.

Cristina: But they're not going out of that country. I thought that was part of it. Who are they terrorizing?

Jack: Fair. Hold up. Oh, no. Because also 911 was probably our own doing. Which goes to say what the war on terrorism should have been aimed at ourselves. We were just blaming other people for s*** we did.

Cristina: We're the biggest terrorists.

Jack: We're the biggest terrorists because we mind f*** our own population too. I'm sure Russia does that too. And China does it too. Manipulating news and s*** all the time.

Cristina: And we get to know about that, of course, because it's not us.

Jack: Yes, but our. No, our media sources are legitimate.

Cristina: Who knows? When you go over there, they're like, look at what America does to their people.

Jack: Yo, they probably got the craziest videos that just get completely removed off of our Internet. Just like the President walking outside with a gun and like popping three in the head and being like, I'm Biden. And they just show us Sleepy Joe. You know, I just kind of, sort of, kind of here, whatever. The second those cameras are off, that guy goes, pops, like five people. It's like, I'm America, I'm the country. Meanwhile, they got caught on video, but it never makes it on our Internet. Just gets wiped out instantly. But China got A hold of it because the Internet is global and they were just like, boom. Downloaded on our. And they can't take it off of our side. And then we go over there, we're just hanging out, talking with a politician. They're like, oh, you don't know what happens over there. Here, look at my laptop. The video of Biden just flat out shooting three people.

Cristina: There's no proof of any of it.

Jack: That's crazy how the world works, man. We're just cool with it.

Cristina: What can you do?

Jack: Yeah, what the f***? That's real. Like, that's real. In the case of the kids and the churches stop going definitely in mass.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: On the flip side, if people weren't cowards, it would be way easy to fix any problem. Problem is people are individually scared.

Cristina: The people in Canada are doing it right. They're burning the church.

Jack: Burning the churches. We wouldn't do that because we're a bunch of cowardice b****** and want to say, oh, no, God's not evil by any means. His church is your sacred place. That f*** kids. But the problem is people are individually scared for their own lives.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they wouldn't. This is selfish country. We're not friends in France. People don't give a s*** about their life. They're like, the country must go first. They are true patriots. We pretend patriotism.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They are actually patriots. They will put their life on the line for their beliefs. We'll be like, how horrible that the kids are getting raped and am I f****** torching a church?

Cristina: No, I recording it.

Jack: How many priests have I shot? Not one.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So, like, I'm squeaky clean. But also, those kids are still getting f*****. And that's equally spread across our country. We're just like, yeah, you know, it's happening. What are we gonna do about it?

Cristina: Record it.

Jack: We're gonna aim it. Yeah, we're gonna record it. And that'll solve everything.

Cristina: Yeah. Someone will eventually do something right.

Jack: This. Well, put it on the Internet and the person who isn't scared for their life is gonna come and do something about it.

Cristina: Yeah, Eventually.

Jack: Right, Done.

Cristina: That's it.

Jack: That's the solution right there.

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: I think doesn't work.

Cristina: No, of course that. But that's what they're thinking.

Jack: Think of the George Floyd. This country's too smart, that f****** leaders are overpowered. People are idiots. The whole George Floyd thing, that had so much potential. Yes, a person died, and that sucks. But that led to the opportunity that. It was everywhere. Everybody saw it. That's an Opportunity. Yes, exactly. It's an opportunity to fix the problem. So the people actually mobilized and decided, we're gonna f****** change this country. But you're playing f****** checkers and these guys are playing like Super 8D chess. And they said everything is taboo, right? Everything is wrong. Everything is terrible. Yeah, everything is f*****. It's like think of where it began. It began at the slave traders and the racist military men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're totally f****** right. That's where it began. And you know what? There's statues of that everywhere. You take down those statues, the ideology stops spreading. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's take down the statues. As soon as they did, the problem disappeared. No, it didn't. They just stopped fighting because they thought the problem disappeared. The country is smarter than the people in the country.

Cristina: The country.

Jack: Yeah. The leaders. Oh, God, they will f****** scramble your brain so easily. Now where's all the fighting? Now where's all the protests? Volume turned way the f*** back down?

Cristina: No, I just see signs every once in a while.

Jack: You see what signs?

Cristina: Signs? Yeah, you know, what is it?

Jack: B. Oh, Black lives matter.

Cristina: Yeah. Just the initials.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Does that count?

Jack: They beat the people and they didn't have to do s***. They beat the people with their minds.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: Well, that's. That's. It's crazy easy to do that when you purposely under educate everybody. Nobody knows how to critical think, so you can guide their attention.

Cristina: This is perfect crime.

Jack: This is perfect crime. Well, I made sure they grew up stupid so that if this moment ever came, I could easily divert them. Took them less than a year to stop the f****** problem.

Cristina: Yeah, he's all the smart. I mean, all the ones that they want to be where they're at are going to school for that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, we made sure to redline long ago so your neighborhood couldn't even afford good education. And all the people who already think like us, they get all the education.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then they rise up to power. And they already came from racist neighborhoods, but those racist neighborhoods had the wealth and red lining. Your district sucks, bro. Your district is garbage. Gets way less money. So you get no education because your district is garbage. Our district. Oh, we're all rich. Our school. Oh, s***. Our tax dollars pay the f*** out of that. Our kids go to that school, they leave. F****** geniuses. Then they become politicians and f*** your life up.

Cristina: More.

Jack: More. Oh, f*** your life. You decided one day to rise up, bro. We got all the education. What are you gonna do, f****** scream at us? Gonna march a little? Yeah, I got Guns. I'm gonna pop you like 10 times just for marching. Which happened a couple of times.

Cristina: It happened. A few times did happen.

Jack: And they're like, oh, you wanna get more riled up? Watch how easy it is if I don't use force. And then, boom. Brainwash all of them. Let's take down the statues. Yeah, take those statues. Yeah, we're taking out the statues. Change is happening. The statues are coming down. Change is happening, bro.

Cristina: Did any police department change?

Jack: Nothing f****** change. We just ended up with January 6th like nothing f****** happened. They lost. Black Lives Matter movement failed the same way Martin Luther King failed. It's just a bunch of s*** failing because they under educate and then they f*** you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We need rich black people like f****** Jay Z to make a bunch of f****** schools and just put all the black people into schools. Educate them, teach them how to manage money, teach them civics. Stop. Just f******. I got a f****** mansion. F*** your mansion.

Cristina: Talking about has that plan.

Jack: Same thing. F****** come. Don't make a country in West Bubba. F***. Save your f****** grounds where you came from.

Cristina: He's doing that. I think he's making it in here.

Jack: He is. He should. That should be the goal. He should be taking little boys and girls into private school where they're gonna get taught economics, they're gonna get taught business management, they're gonna get taught civics.

Cristina: They'Re gonna get caught. Ta ta poly. Jesus, too.

Jack: Religion's a weird one because it's not critical thought. Nah, that's the kind of s*** that's gonna f*** up the message because you're gonna teach them to believe in something super, then it's gonna. F***. They're gonna lean on supernatural s*** when they can't find a solution instead of trying harder to get it. Mmm, that's problematic, I think. All these rich black people who talk about it was so f****** hard. Throw all your money over here. You living the life, my n****. Get that s*** out of there. You living that life.

Cristina: Help.

Jack: Help. You can't just be like, oh, it was hard when I was growing up. Well, you know, it was hard. Why the f*** are you in a mansion right now? Just buy a s***** house. You don't need a mansion.

Cristina: You don't.

Jack: You don't need a mansion. Just have the appropriate amount of space you need and not a bunch of. You don't need a f****** million dollar car. For what? You can get the same. You don't even drive. You just have to look at it. Somebody drives you everywhere. Yeah, so like, come on. Why do you have all this s***? People need to be educated. So that s*** like the black Lives Matter being easily derailed and then totally discarded and disappearing into the background, allowing for a bunch of morons on January 6th to make crazy moves to not be a thing that needs to. That f****** thing that happened is ridiculous.

Cristina: Thing from January 6th.

Jack: Oh, that's the insurrection.

Cristina: Yes. Now I. Yeah, now I remember for. When you first said it, I was very confused about it, but now I got.

Jack: This is insurrection. It's the fact that we easily distracted a bunch of people, but we didn't have the capacity to this. These guys aren't educated themselves. They're also idiots, but they just have enough more that we couldn't derail them. They went in privacy. They're like, oh, look, why we're gonna put it out there? If we could do this in secrecy and then come out. This is the f******. And the fact that they're white. Already gave them a crazy pass to get that close before anybody was like, oh, s***, I think it's dangerous. Oh, yeah, it might be dangerous. Should we stop them? Well, we'll wait. Wait and see what happens first.

Cristina: Crazy. Like, people probably brought in guns. I don't think anyone used any, but still, there was probably weapons in the White House.

Jack: It probably was like. No, there were different weapons, but, like, weapons who were civilian.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, s***. That's probably in there. Probably never told us.

Cristina: Yeah, but it was probably pretty crazy.

Jack: Probably caught a couple, too.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's f*****, man.

Cristina: It is. What?

Jack: I don't know, bro. S*** be cray cray and I don't understand. I don't f****** get it, man.

Cristina: How this country sounds great. It's not that great. It's that great. I don't know.

Jack: It's greatest country in the world.

Cristina: It's the greatest country.

Jack: With everything we've just said, it's the greatest. It's the greatest country in the world.

Cristina: It has to be.

Jack: I don't know. Your opportunity to do anything makes it that way. Makes it. It's. It's just knowledge. That's all it is. Realistically, if teachers were really just looking to educate rather than have summers off, because let's be real, that's like the majority of people leaning into it. Get summers off, do nothing. If it wasn't that. That's the motivation half the time, Even if your school is underfunded, all you have to do is get. Is teach somebody how to learn. Don't teach them material to learn. Teach them how to learn. A way to learn. Anything they ever encounter and the curiosity to want to know more about anything they ever encounter. You teach them that. You don't need any level of education. You don't need to be a great teacher because that made you a great teacher. You don't need to know s*** about anything. You don't need a f****** textbook in your hand. Your class could be nothing but that one thing, and that person will go and become the Lil Wayne of the world, the Jay Z of the. You get informed and you learn how to work with everything. And then you make your way. You find the people, you learn how to network. Not just, oh, I don't know that person, because that's some hood a** mentality. Don't trust him. How many people go to a seminar? I was actually having this conversation about that same problem. Seminars, seminars, seminars. Such a. No, Seminars are a good thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: People's approach to a seminar is a problem because part of hustle culture. Hustle, hustle culture, blah, blah, blah. They're part of hustle culture. And the idea is, if I'm not making money off of it and if I'm not getting paid to do it, I'm not gonna do it.

Cristina: They're not going to the seminar.

Jack: That applies to anything. So the conversation took place now. I don't need to say a name. It was just, you know, somebody I know, we're talking, and they were talking about going to a seminar. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Where is it? Slow or some s***? Yeah, you know, gonna go. It's a. What the h*** was it? Not business management. It was about business. Something about business.

Cristina: It's like business related.

Jack: Business related. Some seminar about business or whatever. F***. And he was like, yeah, I invite a bunch of people. Nobody ever comes. I'm like, what do you mean? Which I know, but I wasn't thinking about it in a moment. What the f*** do you mean? He's like, yeah, but people in general don't go to seminars. Yeah, it's kind of weird. I've been to many seminars in my life. I was a weird kid. I venture into places and check s*** out. Yeah, there aren't people in there. But like, that's weird because it's free information half the time. Some of them you got to pay for. But the person I was talking to doesn't pay for seminars. They just go to free ones. Anytime there's a free one, they sign up and they go, that's awesome. That's how you get information.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Yeah, you get the people who Made it tell you. And you don't have to accept 100% of their information. Yeah, all information is good information. And you take what matters.

Cristina: That sounds so fun. Okay.

Jack: Way logical.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just gather information, become smarter.

Cristina: You think more people should go though, too?

Jack: If you. If you get people curious to want to learn things like that, they will just go do. Because it's more information. I'll learn about the thing. It's free. It's more information. You got to get people excited to learn. But because teachers just want to have the f****** summer off, they're like one, two. You don't really give a s*** about teaching, bro. If you really gave a s*** about teaching, you wouldn't complain about f****** supplies for school.

Cristina: Just want the money. So they raised the kids that now just want the money. Yeah, they don't want it for free. The people who don't want to go to seminars want money.

Jack: Oh, yeah. But they're also never going to get the money because you didn't go to the seminar. Isn't that weird?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You got to go to the seminar to get the knowledge that allow you to do the thing that will get you the money. But you're not going to go to the seminar because the seminar is wasting your time, according to you, and you're not getting money from the seminar.

Cristina: It's a weird loop.

Jack: Yeah, you just box yourself because you don't think learning these things are useful. But all information is useful.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And so we had like, a pretty lengthy discussion about. The problem is people aren't taught to teach. Aren't taught to learn. You don't get taught to learn. You just get taught you all. Here's f****** numbers.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's English and here's some f****** science. It's great. Okay, good. You learned what's in a book. You memorize things.

Cristina: It's weird to blame the teachers, but the teachers were taught by teachers who taught by teachers.

Jack: Yeah. Nobody's taught how to critical think. So. Nobody works. Nobody thinks their way out of the box.

Cristina: Yeah. So like, how do you solve that?

Jack: That's a f****** problem. There's no solution to it, right?

Cristina: No. Because if you're being taught that already, how are you gonna break that cycle? Unless some random person, I guess, teaches you. Unless they're hearing you right now, I guess these teachers.

Jack: I went to the same schools. Why the f*** did I avoid 100% of the already worn down path and just actively live a life in which I do whatever the f*** I want, whenever the f*** I want, however the f*** I want in any way, with zero responsibilities or obligations. I made those choices. I got curious, informed myself. Nobody taught me how to learn.

Cristina: You just enjoyed learning.

Jack: I just enjoyed learning.

Cristina: I don't know. Because no one else seems to enjoy learning. Is that what's happening? I don't.

Jack: I must have. I don't know. It can't be inherent. I must have learned to like learning somehow.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And whatever triggered that. Yeah, whatever triggered that. That's what we need to give everybody else.

Cristina: Yeah. That has to be the way someone had to. Like, how would you have. Why would you be the only person that.

Jack: Right, exactly. It doesn't make any sense.

Jack: And like, for. I have friends who are the total opposite and, like, definitely have way more intellectual capacity and don't care about learning anything. You know exactly who I'm talking about, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. And like, doesn't give a s*** about learning the slightest shred of information if it's not gonna be applied in the moment. He only learns what is useful at the moment and that's it.

Cristina: He has all the information he needs. Yeah.

Jack: No, he doesn't have any information. He has all the reasoning.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he's a literal, on paper genius and has all the reasoning. He needs to use the bare minimum information to make anything f*** work. And so he just gets the bare minimum. Doesn't bother with the rest of it. It was like, hey, I need to ask you a question. Does. And then instantaneously found the solution because I gave him what he needed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He doesn't give a s*** about learning.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Never gave a f***. But he's cheating, obviously, because he's a f****** genius.

Cristina: He's a special case. That's unfair.

Jack: He's an actual genius. That's definitely an unfair situation. But I don't know, man. People need to be taught how to learn, and that does not happen.

Cristina: No.

Jack: In today's society.

Cristina: Yeah. Teach teachers how to have fun teaching, man.

Jack: Yeah. Especially when the. There's the teachers who just print out some pages, put it on your desk, and like, f****** shut up and do it. It's like, get out of the building, bro. Leave.

Cristina: Is that their fault? Is that what they're.

Jack: You're not even trying at that point.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: No, that's so far to the other side. No. Get the f*** out of the building. You are no longer allowed in here.

Cristina: That sounds like a lot of substitute teachers, dude.

Jack: Substitute teachers need to learn how to do their s*** too. I've had substitute teachers that are exciting.

Cristina: Yeah, I've had. Yeah.

Jack: And I'VE had substitute teachers that just give you a sheet. Shut the f*** up.

Cristina: It's like, two extremes, but that feels like those are the only two that there are.

Jack: Yeah. My favorite teacher was an English teacher and never taught me a f****** word of English because he would make sure to put. And he would always start with, like, Shakespeare put on the board.

Cristina: Okay, so he at least got you reading some books.

Jack: You never got to the book. Not a single time. He would put, like, some Shakespeare quote and just ask some really philosophic question about, like, what's the morality of the sentence? Or what is it? It's the English class. I don't know the f*** we're talking about lds. But he'll pose a question and wait. You got five minutes.

Cristina: If those questions were based on whatever story he was writing down on the board.

Jack: No, he was just off the top of his head.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: He was just asking something that trigger thought in everybody. And then he would be like, you got five minutes. First one to answer gets engaged or whatever. F***. And then that's a conversation that derails the class entirely. We don't get back to it. But the subject of the philosophy or the sociology or the psychology, that became the topic, then becomes the whole hour.

Cristina: How do you get tested in that type of class? Or there's no tests.

Jack: I don't know how he was buffing the system. I have no idea how he was working around that, because he wouldn't give a s***. I knew crap in that class all year, but I left knowing more than every other class because he taught me how to think.

Cristina: But there's no test.

Jack: No test. I never took one test.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: He was probably faking the numbers or something. But I left way smarter because he would just sit there and have conversations with us. He would let anything goes.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And he would let people cut in that class. They could cut their own class in that class. But if you're gonna sit in the back, guys, shut the f*** up. You can't disturb, or you got to get out.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And if you're gonna be in the front, you have to do the work.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Even if you're not in the class, you join the class. If you're gonna be in the front, you join the class. If you're gonna be in the back, shut the f*** up. And don't distract anybody. If you distract anybody, get out.

Cristina: That's crazy. Taking in kids that.

Jack: I mean, he prefers them be here than cause trouble.

Cristina: Yeah. Wow.

Jack: Just way rational teacher. Yeah. It was so weird and, like, abstract and, like, totally unconventional, but every single day, you leave no understanding. So many perspectives because people get sucked in little by little. Somebody who doesn't even want to talk and is in the back paying attention, their ear gets caught because of some topic. It's an hour long. You know, somebody's gonna say something.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That catches your attention. They're like, oh, hold on, let me listen a couple. Five minutes of listening. You get up, you get to one of the chairs that's a little closer. Okay, this is interesting. Give or take 10 more minutes. Exactly. Give or take 10 minutes. Your hand is up. You're like, no, that. I don't agree with that. My hand is up. I'm. Nope. This is my say now. And before long, the whole class, even the people who don't belong in the class, are just discussing philosophy, psychology, sociology.

Cristina: Were you participating, like, every class that you had?

Jack: Yeah, I was pretty much derailing. I was. I was usually the guy who would immediately have an answer.

Cristina: Sometimes somebody else had. Every day.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. I had that class every day for six months.

Cristina: Well, it was a great class.

Jack: I never took one test. I never opened a single textbook. We had a textbook. Never touched it.

Cristina: No little books to read or whatever.

Jack: Nope, nope, nope. There was never more than a single sentence discussed throughout the entire class.

Cristina: That's crazy. That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He's still a teacher.

Jack: I don't know. I know that everybody pass. And every single person who took that class to day. To this day, I consider some of the most intellectual people I've ever met.

Cristina: Can you still talk to them the way you could talk to in the class?

Jack: Actually, the only people I can talk to freely, the way I usually talk with, like you, outside of microphone or whatever, are the people who are in that class. They were enlightened in such a way that made them able to hear an opposing thought that they don't agree with or don't even believe in and can.

Cristina: Just handle it and not die inside.

Jack: Yeah, they understand. They're mature enough to understand different perspective without exploding.

Cristina: Some people come to you for that different perspective.

Jack: Yes. Well, that's different because I am a f****** nerd and I read everything and, like, yeah, for this we're having conversations and I'm telling them about my work and how we engage with, you know, extraterrestrials and do all our things or whatever it is we do. But that is all practical in a normal person's life. What that all that information that I've collected is practical in a normal person's Life. Because it's just more information.

Cristina: Yep. Why is it weird that when you're not working for the Illuminati, you're a life coach?

Jack: Kind of. Isn't that weird? I guess that is weird.

Cristina: There's two jobs. You wouldn't think.

Jack: But it isn't a job. Is this like, I'll get a text message and like, hey, I need, I need somebody to bounce some thoughts off of. And I know you're the right person because you're just gonna f******. You can be devil's advocate regardless of what side I'm coming from. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I need some perspective. And you are the guy who is unflinchingly on the opposition. Like. Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And so it's useful. A lot of I've within my circle become well known as that guy. The guy who stands nowhere and thus is great to put him in any side.

Cristina: Yes. That's awesome.

Jack: But that doesn't get taught.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And then we're left with a bunch of snow flaky, lefty, whiny b******. Male or female? I wasn't discussing gender. And if you thought female when I said that, oh, you got a low self esteem, buddy. If I said b****** and they just thought, oh my God, he's talking s*** about women. And I never said women because guys can be b******.

Cristina: Everyone's assuming everything about everyone.

Jack: Yes. And I'm sure throughout the course of this conversation they have assumed so much about what I'm saying at any given moment. But the problem is I don't give a f*** about anybody's opinion because I know what I mean. And that's what defuses the left. If I don't care, and I'm not scared of you, then what do you have? Yeah, if I'm scared that you're gonna cancel my career, you can slander my name. I slander my name. I'm a f****** killer. I've destroyed entire g****** planets. I've committed genocide. I've enslaved entire races. F*** with me.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Next f****** I'm gonna grab is all those blue haired b****** and put them on Mars. F****** run all the experiments.

Cristina: No reason to do that, but I can. Yeah.

Jack: And I have a f****** army to do it with me and. What army? The f****** subhumans. That army.

Cristina: That's a waste of time though.

Jack: But it's funny, can you imagine they just get put up there with Reptilians, that is.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: Oh, some of the monsters we have. Oh, just some fat, overweight, blue haired Idiot who just keeps complaining about the word zed next to a f****** shape shifting reptile and a wet shot just waiting to rip its head off.

Cristina: We could just send one cockroach person to their houses.

Jack: We're not sending my wife over there.

Cristina: Is she the only one left?

Jack: That's the only one I've seen since I destroyed that planet.

Cristina: Oh crap.

Jack: I'm sure there were others out there. But why would they know to come to Earth?

Cristina: They're probably all dead. You mean like some that are outside.

Jack: In space when it blew up? Yeah, some. They were already venturing elsewhere.

Cristina: Oh crap. What are they gonna do? Maybe they just run away.

Jack: They probably got to Mars, saw s*** is not how they left it, and are like, let's just keep moving crap.

Cristina: So your wife is the only one though, as far as we can know.

Jack: Yeah. The only one left, as far as I know.

Cristina: Yeah. Whoa.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's f***** up. I apologize to her for destroying her entire race and committing the most exaggerated level of genocide ever known to a human kind or any life form as far as we know.

Cristina: Does she care? And does she eat trash?

Jack: No and yes.

Cristina: Okay. Just want to know what her diet's like.

Jack: Anything.

Cristina: Alright. Just whatever dead stuff.

Jack: Sometimes she just goes to Mars and eats whatever's just left when like a f****** somebody we're interrogating just dies. He's not going to have it. Yeah, whatever.

Cristina: That's horrifying. Would you watch that?

Jack: I have.

Cristina: It's hot. Scary. So scary.

Jack: Watch a giant cockroach eat like a dead reptilian. Oh, steamy night. So exciting. I can't wait to plug her like roach hole.

Cristina: Do cockroaches have holes? Like what does that look like?

Jack: For the purposes of this conversation and the fact that I haven't the slightest clue what the answer to that is, I must say she has a perfectly normal human like v*****. Except she's a giant cockroach.

Cristina: Ew, that's even worse.

Jack: I don't know, it somehow is, but I couldn't fathom what would really be there. So the answer to this question, and I'm officializing it as canon, is she has a human v*****. She has a human v*****.

Cristina: Why would there be a human?

Jack: But it's textured like a cockroach. So it's the same structure but made out of the exoskeleton.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So it's so it's not soft and moist, it's like rough and hard.

Cristina: Okay. So it doesn't look that alien. Yeah, because it Would be way more alien if it actually looked like a human.

Jack: Just like everything else is exoskeleton and then just skin.

Cristina: Yes, that would be disturbing, but okay. Human roach.

Jack: Yeah. So the solution here is we're going to capture the entire left, not the.

Cristina: We're not gonna fix the problem with China or Russia. Why let that happen?

Jack: Why? This has nothing to do with us. I'm just annoyed by the left. They're like, whatever. There's a bunch of terrorist countries. We're gonna f******, like, whatever. But, no.

Cristina: No. Ourselves.

Jack: Nah. Why?

Cristina: I guess stopping those women is stopping ourselves. That's part of the problem.

Jack: We're stopping annoyances.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. That's pretty much all I care about. She's like, f*** it. Let the f****** Russians take over. I don't care. It's, like, not my business. I don't care.

Cristina: It's not my business.

Jack: Yeah. It's not our jobs. Whatever we get. No matter what the f*** happens, we're okay.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We work for the Illuminati. What the f*** is Russia gonna do? You guys are in that country, and if I. If they so much as harm a hair on us, that country ceases to exist. Come on. So, like, we're fine. Russian decides, smack me. I will walk up to Vladimir Putin and be like, smack me once. Tell me if you still have a country tomorrow when f****** Illuminati rains down h*** on you. Just hit me once, just casually.

Cristina: But if he also works in the Illuminati, like, where is this? Really?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How many people are we above? Like, we're not above the queen.

Jack: No. But she's way up there.

Jack: Queen's above us by miles.

Cristina: We're above many other leaders.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah.

Cristina: How many? All of them.

Jack: All of them except the Pope and the queen.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay, what about, like, billionaires? They don't count, do they?

Jack: Like, billionaires are b******. They do whatever f*** we want.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: How do the f*** you think we got Elon Musk to be so productive and already established several space colonies that didn't allow us to travel space so.

Cristina: Easily with our, I don't know, AR bodies or whatever's happening with that. What then? We have, like, bodies going into space that we're controlling from over here. Kind of like the Avatar movie. That's not happening yet.

Jack: I mean, I'm assuming that's the thing. But, like, we have subhumans. Why the f*** would we need that?

Cristina: I don't know. Just a few, what it looks like.

Jack: But no we travel up there all the time. We go to Mars regularly. It's not like a.

Cristina: But we're not traveling to the home.

Jack: To the great void. Yeah, yeah. But also like, we're sending a crap ton of subhumans that way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like, whatever. They'll come back with answers. But yeah, so we're gonna. I guess that's the plan now. Capture all the lefty snowflakes and just drop them off on Mars. There's nothing to interrogate.

Cristina: We couldn't.

Jack: Yes, we can just use them like goats in a Jurassic park, you know, you bring in the goat, you give it to the f******. To the raptor.

Cristina: What is the raptor in our. What are we giving them to?

Jack: To the creatures that we have trapped up there.

Cristina: Okay. Yes, yes.

Jack: So you just take all these f****** snowflakey jackasses, take them to Mars and just like feed them occasionally to one of these.

Cristina: What? Yes. That's the way to do it.

Jack: Yeah. They're live.

Cristina: Have we been feeding them? We must have been feeding them, though.

Jack: We have been feeding them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know, we've been feeding them subhumans. They volunteer. They volunteer. We say they need to eat. You guys are here. Who's doing it? And then they just like me. I'm the noble one right now. I am. I am the patriot. And then they just walk in. It's like, I'm ready. Simple.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: Also, I just remembered a piece of canon.

Cristina: What?

Jack: All the subhumans are women.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: We established that all the subhumans are women because the Chinese don't want their women.

Cristina: No, but then we brought it here, so there's got to be some men.

Jack: No, no, not as much. We didn't bring s*** here.

Cristina: I thought we did.

Jack: No, we didn't establish that.

Cristina: I thought we.

Jack: That's why we get them from China.

Cristina: Yes, I know.

Jack: We proposed a solution, but nobody applies it here.

Cristina: Oh, I thought we do. Really? We don't know.

Jack: We get. We clone people. We will sooner clone somebody than like f****** not abort.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: When we could just not abort and have more people.

Cristina: Oh, so it's just.

Jack: It's just China.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's why they're all women, which is a hundred percent triggering somebody.

Cristina: That wasn't our fault.

Jack: That wasn't our fault.

Cristina: China clone. I mean, abort their babies, their baby girls.

Jack: Yeah, I know that in a couple of days we are sending people because the day is coming. It's finally here. We've been waiting for this moment.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, the Problem is though, like, how do we know which groundhog is the groundhog God?

Jack: Because we went to the same. Went to the same. We're assuming it's Phil.

Cristina: Exactly. But there's like three groundhogs in that place where he's from that tell the weather. Yes. He's just one of them.

Jack: We have enough people to watch all of them.

Cristina: To watch all three of them.

Jack: We have millions, actually. Literally billions. We have literally billions.

Cristina: Okay. Because there's just three in that area.

Jack: We could just send five sub humans anywhere.

Cristina: But then there's like all over the country there's groundhogs that tell the weather and then there's even Canada who started.

Jack: I think they haven't just different animals and stuff. Like really, really. We're after this one. He's the one. We're assuming he's the one. And then we already checked the hole. Yes, Phil, and we already checked the hole that he comes out of and he's not there.

Cristina: No, because they don't put him there. They have him somewhere else. We don't go to that place where they have him.

Jack: I don't think the stories they tell people are true. Are. What is going on?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I think he lives in a mansion. He teleports there. Oh, through the hole.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: From wherever he's coming from.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What you think he teleports?

Jack: He's not there. And I don't think he. That they have him. We would have been told about that. People get told that.

Cristina: Yeah, people get told.

Jack: People get told that. But our people have not found that to be true.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So.

Cristina: Yeah, interesting.

Jack: Yes. Anywho, we are way out of time, way over time and yeah. So I hope you people are in agreement that these lefty retards, the blue haired cancel culture, are really gay. Are really gay, Very retarded, very retarded, very, very gay. Usually overweight. I don't know why that's a feature. That's just some s*** that happens, I guess. They spend so much time on the Internet just b******* that they don't like really get their exercise, which makes them great meat to give to the people on Mars and easier to identify in public too, so it's easier to capture them. Yeah, it's all, it's all works out. Anyways, I hope you guys agree that we should get rid of them and feed them to the Reptilians and other. And if you guys want to find out about other things that we've discussed here, you can find a bunch of that. The Groundhog. That's happening soon.

Cristina: The cannibalism.

Jack: Cannibalism. Go look at that something. Cannibalism. Thanksgiving. Cannibalism. Real cannibalism. This cannibalism is probably in the name.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And yeah. So you can find all that stuff at the official website. Great thoughts.info or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: You can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok @justconvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Leave us a beautiful review with maybe a groundhog. No, not a groundhog. That was like the bare minimum of this. Put us a lefty snowflake. Put a snowflake. An arrow aiming left on a snowflake.

Cristina: Oh, nice.

Jack: Ooh, yeah. Make those emojis for this episode and.

Cristina: Let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes, word of mouth. Tell everybody that the purge of the blue haired snowflakes is coming and get ready to just see them disappear. Don't go out there and do anything. We're gonna do it. We're gonna get rid of all of them. All at the same time. Capture them. We're not gonna harm them.

Cristina: We're gonna be heroes.

Jack: We're gonna be heroes. Put them all in cages, take them all off of the planet. And it's just gonna get real quiet and happy. He's so quiet and happy.

Cristina: Peace on Earth.

Jack: It's gonna be Utopia. If we're gonna figure out at that moment that we were just all really annoyed that they were around, but as a planet and we were just gonna kill each other because these annoying retards who are totally gay.

Cristina: It's gonna be like 10 of them.

Jack: That's the craziest part. It's just like a couple of idiots. Yeah, it really is. There's not gonna be any. Just really, really loud few.

Cristina: Yeah, they just make multiple accounts and stuff.

Jack: They probably do. And then the problem is those people are so easy to troll. I get blocked by them all the time because I hate their sensitive emo nerves. They're like, oh, my God, my feelings. And it's like, well, if you can talk to me, if you want, we can have that conversation. You're gonna survive it, but we can have it.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening by.

Jack: Why do we put the poop in the ground? That's like a baby poop wants to.

Cristina: Be in the ground.

Jack: Poo doesn't want to be in the ground.

Cristina: Yes, it does. Animals poop on the ground because they know that's where they want it wants to be. Nah, it's in nature.

Jack: And when a dog eats poo, it's like it's eating its puppy.

Cristina: Yes. That's. No. That's a slow dog, though.

Jack: Why is that a slow dog?

Cristina: Dogs should not be eating their poop.

Jack: Should they be eating their babies? Their puppies? That's not a slow dog.

Cristina: That's definitely a slow dog, too, I guess.

Jack: Okay, fair.

Cristina: Either case, it's. It's bad.

Jack: Baby eating is wrong.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: In either case.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Whether it's poo or fleshy.

Cristina: But poo should be on the ground.

Jack: No. You're making choices for poo without asking.

Cristina: Poo poo's body, you have to compare it to nature. And in nature.

Jack: Pooh'S body, poo's choice.

Cristina: In nature, poo enjoys being on the ground.

Jack: You don't know this.

Cristina: Yes. All the animals agree to it.

Jack: Yeah, but they didn't ask the poo.

Cristina: And how are you gonna talk to this poo?

Jack: Well, we need to invent poo communication technology.

Cristina: That sounds ridiculous. That sounds like a lot of work for nothing.

Jack: Poo needs rights, and we will fight for those rights.

Cristina: And what do we do once we have those rights? Once they have the rights.

Jack: Don't know what to tell you.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo, and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 159: Biden Stops the Holocaust

Is the Moon made of cheese? Is Biden worse than Hitler? Did Hitler even do anything wrong? What the hell is the Holocaust anyway? And why don’t we call it The Milking Way Galaxy instead? The Duo unpack the Second World War and the time-traveling that lead to it in the first place, along the way learning the truth about our galaxy and more. What we learn about Biden, Trump and Hitler in this episode will change how we all look at WWII!

Rambling 159: Biden Stops the Holocaust

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Things More Important than the Holocaust
  • What is Real?
  • Cheese Moon
  • Cosmic Cow
  • The Milking Way Galaxy
  • That Time Hitler Saved Earth
  • Hitler the Hero
  • The Third Rake and the Grass Cult
  • Hitler is Trump’s Fault
  • Is Biden Worse than Hitler?
  • Time Travel Paradoxes
  • Trump’s Time Travel
  • Cheese Gas

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find yourself somebody very interesting to see. Sit next to while you enjoy the intricacies of this episode that's coming at you with supersonic speeds.

Cristina: Are you sure about that?

Jack: I am absolute. Can you imagine just stuck there the whole time? The whole time, just like. I'm not even aware. I'm like, can you. Whoever play anybody who already listens to an episode at half speed? That was the longest introduction they have ever heard.

Cristina: Who listens to it in half speed? What monster does that look?

Jack: I don't know who, but some people listen to it at two times speed. So I'm assuming there has to be at least one guy out there doing it at half.

Cristina: I might have done that before.

Jack: I don't know. This is, you know, two times as long, twice the awesome.

Cristina: Oh, I guess so. Yeah. I guess that works.

Jack: Unless you could only speed it up.

Cristina: Unless you can know. I bet there. There has to be a slowdown option. There has to.

Jack: But what value would that provide?

Cristina: I don't. If you can't understand what they're saying.

Jack: Maybe like if they already speak too fast.

Cristina: Yeah. To slow them down.

Jack: Interesting. There are moments that I believe maybe I speak absolutely too fast and it makes sense for somebody to slow the episode down so that they can catch the things that I'm saying more effectively.

Cristina: But then if they listen to me, they have to speed it back to normal.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So it's a. It's a game of back and forth.

Jack: Here's the problem we do. They have. If they're listening to this show, it has to be left alone. Right. Because if you go too fast, you cannot hear me.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you go too slow, you never finish a sentence.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it just needs to. They need to take the hit. There's no solution unless you're ignoring one of us.

Cristina: Oh, they should do that. They should just play one once. Like play it twice. One speed fast and one slow.

Jack: Or. Or. And this will take a lot of work, but anybody who wants to do it, feel free. Where they take the episode and they duplicate it and then they slow one down and they speed the other one up and then merge the two conversations so that I'm in the slowed down version and you're in the sped up version to see if we're speaking more or less at the same speed.

Cristina: That is too much work. I don't know.

Jack: But if they wanted to have, like, a fully balanced out episode, that might be the way to go.

Cristina: Ye.

Jack: They want us to sound the same because we're definitely two savagely different energy levels.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, we are.

Jack: Which, fair enough, is sort of the taste people get. Right. Anybody who's in here for the long run, they've become adjusted to me essentially being some sort of maniacal maniac and you just being very tame and grounded. And they're here for it.

Cristina: They better be.

Jack: Yeah. In fact, they're. I would argue our audience is a little divided. Some people think I am particularly entertaining, and some people think you are particularly grounded, and they think I am holding you hostage.

Cristina: Holding me hostage? Mm.

Jack: Which is an interesting idea, right? That I would be holding you hostage because that means you don't want to be here.

Cristina: That's crazy. I feel like I'm the wrong person to hold hostage. You should be holding Dave hostage or something.

Jack: Dave. That'd be interesting.

Cristina: Why would it be me of all people?

Jack: Why not? You are quite the intellectual individual, and we sit here and have very profound conversations, and you have a knack for poking holes in things that don't make sense, forcing them to make sense again. We're here to ground humanity's most absurd and dangerous, baffling ideas.

Cristina: That's what I'm here for.

Jack: Yeah, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways. That's what we are, man. Yes, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways.

Cristina: I want to be the childish way.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You don't get to be.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: But anyways, talking about hostages and whatnot, how about that Holocaust, eh?

Cristina: The Holocaust, eh? The one that happened yesterday.

Jack: The Holocaust that happened yesterday? Yeah. You heard about the Holocaust on the news? Crazy stuff, right?

Cristina: Crazy. I haven't heard about it. What happened?

Jack: What happened? Oh, man. You're about to be blown away by what happened. I'm about to blow your mind. It's gonna be great. Okay, so the Holocaust. You have no idea what the Holocaust is, right?

Cristina: I was born yesterday.

Jack: You were born. To be fair. To be entirely fair, we were kind of born maybe three years ago.

Cristina: Yes, I was Born three. Okay. Yeah. So like, did this happen before three years ago?

Jack: It didn't. It did. It did. It did happen before three years ago. All right, so for starters, the Holocaust was a day we'll always remember. One of the most impactful days of ever. Of ever.

Cristina: Of ever.

Jack: Not really. There's probably way more impactful s*** that happened before humans like giant f****** meteors we have no records of Just dinosaurs.

Cristina: Existing, I feel like is pretty.

Jack: That's pretty epic. I think dinosaurs going totally extinct to more impactful than Holocaust.

Cristina: This being alive is insane. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Just the fact of life is kind of astounding.

Cristina: No dinosaurs existing, that being a real thing. Unless people are questioning whether that's.

Jack: Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you the list of things that matter way more than the Holocaust could ever. Just as a. As just setting the grounds for how inappropriate this episode is gonna be. I'll begin by listing how insignificant the Holocaust is as compared to other things.

Cristina: Okay, fair. We should. You should also name things that are less impactful than the Holocaust as well.

Jack: Okay. Perfect.

Cristina: Okay. Perfect balance.

Jack: So balance. You're totally right. You're totally right. Just so that people stop raging on the other side. So we're gonna start bad and then end kind. That's the way to, you know, ease them off. So things that are. This should definitely concern us way more than the Holocaust. Like if we had to choose what information to know and we had to forget one forever. Like in this scenario, the Holocaust is the one we would forget.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: First, f****** dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, f*** Holocaust. Dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Second, what killed the dinosaurs? Like, we couldn't stop that now if it came again.

Cristina: Yes. Like, f***. F***.

Jack: The Holocaust. Yes. Seven million. Look, eight billion numerical differences.

Cristina: Ah, okay.

Jack: You know, and however many f****** dinosaurs went extinct.

Cristina: Yeah. How much?

Jack: There had to be way more than there are people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They were everywhere. We're only in some places. And we're focused. Nevertheless, they were focused and everywhere.

Cristina: Interesting. Yeah.

Jack: Who knows the true genocide? You know, the true genocide. We're talking about small stuff.

Cristina: That was the first genocide, I guess. Yeah.

Jack: Something else totally way more astounding than the Holocaust and more impactful and meaningful. The fact that life happened at all in any context. Just like, hey, you can perceive.

Cristina: Whoa, whoa, you're alive.

Jack: You can perceive the Holocaust. Whoa. If you couldn't perceive, Holocaust never happened. So technically, Holocaust is dependent entirely on the fact that you can perceive first. Otherwise never happened.

Cristina: Yes. Are there people? Oh, man. There are people who are. Don't say. I mean, that. Do say the Holocaust didn't happen, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Is it because they're not perceived? Because in their reality it doesn't. Is it possible they're living different realities?

Jack: That's an interesting question. And it's completely possible. Physics doesn't say that. It's not that the perception of the individual is entirely based on their neurological input and output and that we filter most of reality as it is. And if your brain just so decided to filter out certain aspects, they would simply not exist to you. And that people who honestly, truly believe a Holocaust didn't happen. It's like you having a best friend. Your best friend being like, I'm going to Antarctica. And your best friend goes. And they're like, but my phone isn't gonna work out there. And I'm gonna be out there for three years, and then I'm gonna come back and say hi to you. And so they leave and die. Second day. But in your universe, your friend is still alive for three years until you find out in three years he's been dead.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: You're just under the impression that. Well, he told me he wouldn't be able to communicate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that same logic of your perspective of what's happening is as true to you as him being totally dead is to anybody who.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Is the same idea behind, like, the Holocaust deniers or a denier of anything. Oh, Earth is flat. Well, if you honestly, truly, unquestionably believe the Earth is flat, that's no different than somebody believing the same of the Earth is round. Because neither side proves s*** when it's relying on scientists. The other is relying on whatever f*** source, but they didn't go out and prove it themselves.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's faith. So none of us ever saw the Holocaust. We didn't see the Holocaust. We didn't see s*** happen. Those people are all f****** dead.

Cristina: They are dead.

Jack: So then the question is, I mean, both sides. The ones who died first and the ones who died later.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But that being said, I never witnessed it to tell you factually it happened. But either. Also, neither did the people who are denying saying it never did. We're all essentially just believing what we've been told.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: So they're as right as we are.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: That's f*****. Right? Because in reality, like, I couldn't prove to you happened. Oh, but there's so many videos and this and that. Yeah. But I can watch some guy tell me about how it never happened, and here's a video of proof, like what the f*** can I do about that? And go out and do the homework and see anybody massacre a bunch of people in gas chambers or anything like I see any of it also. Yes, because according to this narrative we're establishing right now, you have no knowledge of what the Holocaust is. They were gassed. But we'll get there.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We'll get there. Who's gassed, you ask?

Cristina: We'll get there. Okay, not to. It wasn't the dinosaurs.

Jack: It wasn't the dinosaurs. And we'll totally disregard the fact that you're fully aware of Holocaust deniers before that was mentioned. But.

Cristina: Well, I do know because they're around right now, so of course I would know about that.

Jack: Interesting. You're right. You're right. Same thing as, like, flat Earthers and stuff. That's current thing.

Cristina: And dinosaur deniers.

Jack: Yes, that is surprisingly a thing too, even though that. That one is in abundance. That's a weird one to deny, considering you can actually go see.

Cristina: And the moon. The people who deny the moon. The moon is a ship, is illusion.

Jack: Here's. Here's what's interesting about that one, right? Because. Okay, the moon landing, like, whatever, dude, I wasn't there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Maybe haven't married, you know, I don't know. Whatever. My ongoing theory is we lied about it and then did land and then just claimed the first one was because if we go up there, we see a flag and everything is up there. Right? Yeah, but it's like, well, we were kind of rushing and kind of consistently lying about random s***, so who knows? So it made sense that we would lie about that just to be number one or whatever. F*** we do.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But yeah, so that part, whatever, about it being a f****** ship, mean it could be made out of f****** cheese, bro. I haven't stood on the f****** moon. I don't know. I mean, I have stood on the moon, but, like, you get my point.

Cristina: But there's no way. Cheese.

Jack: Who the. How would you know? Like, if you've never explored. Let's ignore us two and anyone we are in contact with. Yeah, but if you're a normal, boring person, see, and you've never been to space, anything you believe is faith.

Cristina: Mmm. Okay.

Jack: You've not seen it. You're just taking some. It's all religion. So you're like, the moon is made out of rock. Like, everything else in space looks like. Okay. You have to believe that and have faith that that's the truth.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But somebody's like, yeah, it's f****** cheese and it's like, well, that's impossible. Who says? Based on what is. Does cheese exist? Can cheese happen in the universe? Yeah, can.

Cristina: But not by itself like that. Or can it?

Jack: I don't know. Maybe there's some cosmic f****** cow. Oh, no, it doesn't even have to be a cow. It could be any cosmic milk having. Like, do we. Simple questions that could lead us back, and then we'll get back to Hitler real quick. Do we know the right. Totally no idea. But Hitler, World War II, all related. Not to mention the fact that we've had Hitler talked about on this show many times.

Cristina: That was a past me.

Jack: Fair enough. Totally brainwashed. Not brainwashed. All your memories, deja vu, specifically of World War II erased.

Cristina: Yes. I was in a accident yesterday, playing with a portal, just jumping in and out.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Your memories got caught on one side.

Cristina: Yeah, totally.

Jack: Only. And you only forgot World War II.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which just so happened to be what we're talking about.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Perfect. I forgot the f*** I was even talking about.

Cristina: Oh, it doesn't have to be cows.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like, if we assume the. We just need to agree on a couple of things in order to make the moon cheese. Right. So first, do we agree as above, so below?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Everything is equal at all scales. It just repeats, just bigger or smaller. Everything is fractalized. So it's just a repetition of the patterns. Infinitely connected from the previous patterns.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we assume that an atom has electrons and protons orbiting it to some degree, even if not exactly the same. And that, you know, nucleus in a cell with all the elements surrounding that and brain and heart crap surrounding that. And a planet surrounding a star. Star surrounding black holes. So we assume everything is consistent.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Lettuce is fractalized. Broccoli is fractalized. Trees are fractalized. Lightning bolts are fractalized. Everything's fractalized. Nature is fractalized.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So it's safe to assume that everything repeats at every scale and in some cosmic way that we don't comprehend because it's too large for us to grasp. There is some sort of cosmic cow that was cosmically milked by whatever ended up creating our universe. And not even our universe, just our region of space. And although the Milky Way, the milk. It's not just the Milky Way, it's. We probably got it wrong. We were probably talking to gods and somebody was like, hey, man, what do you call this thing you overpower? And not like our crappy demigods who just run the world, but, like the gods who run the galaxies, you know? Those monsters, which is arguable. That just a fun idea. Jehovah and Zeus are stuck in their regions. But like, the Cat People own all of the Great Void.

Cristina: Yes. Wait, did they call? Wait, no. The Great Void is a way far away from us. That's far away.

Jack: I'm just pointing out the fact that the Cat People have way more reach.

Cristina: Yes. Than.

Jack: Than Jehovah, Zeus. Yeah, just pointing that out. They got little read. They got country.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Then there might be people over here. Unless it was the Cat People.

Jack: I don't know. Point being. Okay, when we asked what the name was, they probably told us the Milking Way. And we're like the Milky Way. Yeah, it makes sense. And we named the candy bar after and everything. But it was the Milking Way. We're just a giant farm and the moon is a giant ball of cheese by whatever cosmic cow or other creature was milked.

Cristina: Yeah. It could be anything.

Jack: But we are in the Milking Way.

Cristina: Yeah. Interesting.

Jack: So you see, it's totally possible that the moon is made out of cheese. It's about as likely as anything else we haven't proven. And again, we've been there. But like, if you're not us, what's your reference point? Yes, but somebody told you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like, whatever somebody says made of cheese. Yeah. I believe them.

Cristina: Yeah, why not? Okay.

Jack: What's the difference between that and it's f****** made out of space dust?

Cristina: I don't know. Yeah.

Jack: Isn't cheese made out of space dust?

Cristina: Technically, I guess. Like, what the f***, you know, cheese is made out of space dust because.

Jack: Everything is made out of space dust. It's arguable that all the things required to make cheese exist in atomic form on the moon, if the moon itself isn't made of cheese. So there's at least the parts necessary to create cheese on the moon.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: You know, it is what it is. And allegedly the moon is made out of the same material the Earth is. So all the same atoms are present, they're just arranged differently. Moon is in theory, cheese.

Cristina: In theory.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And it's cheese now.

Jack: Pretty substantially arguable theory. Nevertheless. Anyways, so other important events, you know, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, death, life in general, discovery of fire, making meat better.

Cristina: Is that. That's better.

Jack: That's way more important.

Cristina: More important. Yes.

Jack: That's one of the things that allowed us to become the monsters that caused the holocaust in the first place. Without. That could never happen.

Cristina: We're just never happened.

Jack: Without the wheel.

Cristina: Without the wheel.

Jack: The wheel. The wheel was an important one.

Cristina: That was important.

Jack: A lot of vehicles used in carrying a bunch of people to places where they'd cease to exist.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: So, okay, we'll end the list of things more important. Although there are way many more things.

Cristina: Like a scientist. Can we put them in there?

Jack: Because most scientists, like Einstein for sure. Like kind of all the prominent scientists are way more important than the holocaust as a whole. Like we wouldn't be anywhere without them. Also, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened without them.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: You know, like it literally wouldn't have happened. They are more prominent than the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh my gosh, think about that.

Jack: Yeah, that's crazy. Gas chambers weren't even used, were even intended for that. I believe they're gonna be for something else. And then, hey, repurposed.

Cristina: Was it gonna be some type of torture thing? Like.

Jack: No, I think it was gonna be for some other purpose. It was some. I don't remember the story exactly, but yeah, most of crap use there was scientists being super genius and then it being repurposed by some crazy other f****** scientists.

Cristina: That's how science do now.

Jack: Things less important than the Holocaust. Peanut butter.

Cristina: Are you sure? Yeah, pretty sure.

Jack: Like peanut butter or no peanut butter. Like Holocaust still happens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like it doesn't really change our lives. Great. Whatever. Peanut butter. I don't really like. I don't prefer peanut butter. You know, pizza out there, people like peanut butter.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Something. Man. It's crazy because I can think of way more like, iPhone is way more important than the Holocaust. It's way more important, the Holocaust because the iPhone assures us the Holocaust could never happen again. You know, it's way more important than the holocaust. Then again, the United States has its ways, so who the f*** knows? There's enough empty land.

Cristina: And I'm sure global warming, I think more prominent.

Jack: That's more important. We're trying to talk about things that aren't.

Cristina: Oh yeah, the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. Like robots.

Jack: No, those matter a lot. The problem is like let's be remote. Like at the time that was important. Like it was way serious at the time. Yeah, but like right now, global warming could extinct to everybody.

Cristina: How about the war on terrorism? That has to be less important.

Jack: The war on terrorism less important. I mean, it's arguable, right? Depends how many terrorists there are and how many people collectively the terrorists of killed has the war on. I guess the war on terrorists would be weaker than terrorists as a whole.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But no, if we're actually stopping them, that Is. I guess it depends on how effective that war is. If it's effective, it's way more prominent.

Cristina: Because if we killed more civilians than terrorists, does that matter?

Jack: I don't know. Are there. Did the terrorists kill more civilians and Hitler did? And in that case, are the civilians we killed just f****** bad byproduct casualties that we accept?

Cristina: What if we killed more civilians than the terrorists did?

Jack: Then obviously in that situation. But, like, chances are we've probably killed people who've collectively killed more people than Hitler, thus making, like, even if individually not one of them has a record of 7 million people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Like, maybe enough of them together do.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And if that's the case, then definitely war on terror over the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. So just way more things that matter way more than the Holocaust.

Cristina: But it's important.

Jack: It's an important event. It was him. It was way the most important thing at the time. Well, it wasn't because still dinosaurs and the. You know, it was just very impactful.

Cristina: In the moment.

Jack: Yeah. In the moment. It was just everywhere. There was nothing you could do to avoid it. And it was the scariest thing to have ever existed. Unless the Holocaust is happening and you look up and a dinosaur extinction level event meteor is coming. And then you're like, f*** the Jews, because this s*** is way more important. You're like, hitler, please help us stop the f****** rock.

Cristina: You think he'd stop killing the Jews, though, if.

Jack: Because he's about to die too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He'll be all in, and we'll let it slide. We're like, you're gonna save the Earth. We'll forgive everything you've done. Yeah. You killed 7 million, but you save. Well, how many people we have at that point? Six billion. Like, the trade off is huge.

Cristina: We can't kill anymore. I'm guessing would also be.

Jack: I mean, I'm assuming afterwards, it's like, if you take a single more life, we have to execute you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, you already have a crazy record. We can't have no proof that you're starting this all over.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. And then it'll be, yes, I guess.

Jack: So it's like, then no.

Cristina: World War II.

Jack: Yeah. So arguably, the dinosaur meteor coming for a second time.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Could in theory, turn Hitler into a good guy that helps us stop because he has the ability to convince people of things, and he unites the world under him to help fight this one meteor. The new. The new evil.

Cristina: The new evil that we need to.

Jack: We're gonna gas that rock, Gas that Rock out of here. He's gonna figure it out. You know, we're just gonna get the people who know how to figure it out. Gonna get the people who are gonna figure that out.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Okay. So there's way more things that matter more than things that don't. But that doesn't stop the historical significance of World War II.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Aka the Holocaust.

Cristina: Aka the Holocaust.

Jack: Yeah. I am gonna stick to the fact that those two are the same event. I get now after your explanation before we began, that they're two different events. That they're two different events happen at the same time. They happen at the same time. Even if you have no idea what the Holocaust is and all your memory's gone about it, you had enough lucidity for a split second to explain that to me and retain it, to reiterate it right now. But since you have no clue what.

Cristina: The Holocaust, that's how I know that I don't. That's what. Like, that's the biggest evidence that it's not the same thing. I don't know the Holocaust, but I do know World War II because I recently learned about World War II, but not the Holocaust.

Jack: Interesting. So you. So you have no idea what the Holocaust is, but you're fully informed on World War II?

Cristina: You know iffy about World War II. Okay.

Jack: Iffy.

Cristina: Yes. I know people were at war, and it was a lot of people. So you know a lot of countries. Like 30. Yeah, probably more than 30.

Jack: So, yeah, it's very interesting to be fully informed on World War II and have no.

Cristina: So this Holocaust thing.

Jack: But. So the Holocaust, amazingly enough, is what caused World War II. Yeah, yeah. So the reason everybody was fighting in the first place is because some Jew hater named Adolf Hitler.

Cristina: I think I've heard that guy. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a hero to many.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. Is it weird if I just leave it. Is it weird if I just leave it there and I don't point out. But he was a monster to. More.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If I'm just like, he was a hero to many and just keep strong.

Cristina: A hero to who, though?

Jack: To the Germans. To the German N***. The First Reich.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The First Reich was his collective of people who were like, he's. He's the good guy.

Cristina: Are there more than one Reichsman?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Are there?

Cristina: I don't know, because I think I've.

Jack: Heard, like, oh, no, he's not the First Reich. He's the Third Reich.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, you're totally right. He's the Third Reich. So There are two other Reichs. One, I have no idea what a Reich is.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Second, he's the third of the Reichs.

Cristina: So there might be more.

Jack: There might be more Reichs. Who knows? Maybe all three Reichs were his. Maybe he collects Reichs. I don't know what Reichs are they like rakes. Is it a kind of rake? Does he just. Did he decide. We love rakes and we're the third rake. But it's German for rake. And like we say rake, but they say Reich. They're like with the Third Reich and it's like we all use rakes. They love raking their lawn.

Cristina: The first rake is the stick rake. Then there's the machine version of a rake. And then there's the human version, I guess, which is them.

Jack: But no, all those are used by people. The argument would be dark joke warning ahead for people sensitive about the Holocaust or World War II, since they're not the same event. But if the first one is the broom looking thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the second one is some sort of machine that you can drive, presumably, and rakes the leaves while you're on it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: De escalation would be whatever's the next huge thing that can easily get rid of a lot of leaves, which would probably be an incinerator of some sort. So if they're calling themselves the third rake, maybe they were talking about the furnaces also. They were furnaces. That's primarily what the Holocaust was about.

Cristina: Furnaces.

Jack: Yeah. About shooting Jews in the back of the head, sometimes in the front of the head, and murdering their children and forcing them to do slave work for prolonged periods of time and pushing them into. Or having them gently walk into furnaces where they would burn alive and. And also gassing them after you told them that they were gonna get to take a shower for the first time in like three months.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's without counting the ones that were just thrown on top of the graves of many others and just buried alive with them. Good times. That's it. You know, the Nazis and they're good times. That's how they play this game.

Cristina: That's horrible. That's all horrible. Anyways, eventually, this is how much they love grass, though.

Jack: This is how much they love grass. They ran out of grass and they're like, people throw people in there.

Cristina: This is insane.

Jack: Yeah. I can't believe that all this happened because they loved rake so much.

Cristina: They loved it so much they decided to use it on people.

Jack: They over invested. They over Invested. Right. So you buy a rake and you don't use rake. Well, it was 20 bucks, whatever. But if you bought like the second rake, and you know it's the size of like a riding lawnmower when you drive around, but it's meant to collect leaves. But you did all your leaves, and you did it so fast. It took like a minute or leaves stop falling. It got so hot, winter stopped coming. And you know, so now you just have this machine that you want to use it, though. You invested.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you got to use it. You start doing other people's lawns for free.

Cristina: You murder your neighbors to do their lawns?

Jack: No, no, no. You just do their lawns. When we get to the third rake, that's when it gets kind of weird. Because it's like about a building, bro. To throw all the leaves in, but, like, no more leaves. We did all the leaves. It's a building, bro. It's a big weird. We bought like 30 of them.

Cristina: You think that you started with animals first? Like, we got a lot of wild dogs. It's problem.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, probably just cleaning random s*** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they were like, well, I'll clean that one. F*** it. Let's just grab those people, clean them up too.

Cristina: Yeah. Sorrow. Okay.

Jack: I mean, there is. There is some people who believe, like I said, he's a hero to some. And it's weird if I just walk away from that sentence right there. He's a hero to some. But there are people who think Hitler did nothing wrong. That is.

Cristina: That is their argument.

Jack: That is a state. Yes. What more. What more proof do you need?

Cristina: Because Hitler just wanted Germany great again.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: After World War I, it was probably really left horribly shambles. He was like, we gotta make Germany what it was before World War I. We got to make it great again.

Jack: Yeah. Make Germany great again. And he. He protested that he even had a. An uprising on January 6th a couple of months ago. Like a year ago or so. Where he from today? The White House.

Cristina: He's alive?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Isn't that who attacked the White House?

Cristina: They do say he's still alive. So I guess that makes sense.

Jack: That makes total sense.

Cristina: But how's he still alive?

Jack: Why wouldn't he. He froze himself. Obviously.

Cristina: He froze himself. Can we prove that that technology.

Jack: We proved that exists. I specifically remember having an episode in.

Cristina: Which I feel like we disproved that the technology works.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Do you think it works?

Jack: Explain how anybody who f****** listens to this regularly. What's the narrative on this? I don't f****** remember, is it?

Cristina: Well, we know that Jesus couldn't have used that technology. I guess that's what we proved.

Jack: Yes, Jesus could. No, but I'm pretty sure we proved that. For what the h*** was it for? It was to preserve something.

Cristina: I don't know. I just remember one episode, it was about Jesus, because I was wondering how he came back alive, and I was like, that's maybe one of the ways you were like, nah, man.

Jack: Interesting, Interesting. I don't know. Well, let's assume that at least he had it and he froze himself in cryostasis and then got unfrozen recently. And that's why we have Trump.

Cristina: Are you saying he is Trump?

Jack: No, no, no. I'm saying Trump is his disciple. If nobody here has seen the Messiah, watch it, because I'm about to make hella references to that. And you need to understand him, which is basically the guy who El Mac the manifesto, or at least we thought it was that way and that Alma C. Was doing his work. But it turned out Emma C. Wrote the book that that guy was following.

Cristina: Yes. He got the ideas from the student. The teacher got the idea from the student.

Jack: Yes. And then he wrote the book, and people thought the kid was the one who was following the teacher, but it was the other way around.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So Trump somehow sent his ideas back in time, caused World War II. Oh, and that's why he's gonna fight Biden on top of the White House. Boom. So that he doesn't send it out. That's gonna happen. Hasn't happened yet. Biden is trying to stop the Holocaust.

Cristina: That is so crazy. That makes sense.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense.

Cristina: So Donald Trump wrote something, sent it to the past, and then those leaders from the past took it. Because it wasn't just Germany talking about, let's make German.

Jack: There was a lot of people, someone.

Cristina: In Italy was doing the same thing who's like, World War I happened. And they were like, we gotta make Italy as it was before World War I.

Jack: We gotta make it illegal.

Cristina: Exactly. It was the same speech, but with different people, different countries.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: So they all just happen to be.

Jack: It's like the news cycle right now. Right? Like, you could put every news station next to each other and they're repeating the same line for line thing. Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Oh, my gosh. It's the same thing.

Jack: Yeah, it's the same thing. 100.

Cristina: So it was Trump all along.

Jack: It was Trump all along. And Biden's actively trying to stop the.

Cristina: Does he know time travel Is involved Biden? I hope not.

Jack: Oh, no. Biden has no clue.

Cristina: Okay, good.

Jack: It'd be weird if Biden can go back and unmolest all the people who he's molested. That's a problem. So we need to arrest him after he stops Trump.

Cristina: Okay, who has he molested?

Jack: Many, many. And all the blacks in jail are his fault.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So. So they're both pretty bad, but we kind of got to let one stop the other.

Cristina: Okay, so we need him to save the day anyway, even though there's a bunch of crimes against him.

Jack: Yeah. But it comes back to the whole, if Hitler stop. Helped us stop the meteor, it's the same thing. Are we gonna stop him from helping us? Yeah, we're probably gonna let him.

Cristina: Okay, so we're gonna let Biden do his thing with Trump, and then if he lives, we'll punish him.

Jack: I don't. I don't know if. Here's the question. Would we let. Because we are arguing that Biden is way less bad than Hitler. Right. If we can forgive Hitler after.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. As long as he doesn't repeat himself. Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: If Biden doesn't do anything bad after, he's okay.

Jack: Exactly. If Hitler, after killing 7 million people, helped to stop the meteor that was gonna destroy all of Earth.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We gotta at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, you saved, like, a lot of people.

Cristina: Yeah. One more death and you're done.

Jack: But you managed to straightaway. We'll ignore the 7 million you killed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Same thing for Biden. Yes. There's some kids f***** up walking around. They're probably serial killers or some s***. Probably molesting people of their own. You probably start some crazy domino effect of people molesting people who molest people forever. And that cycle will never break because they just think it's normal. Or they'll blow their brains out before they get to molest anybody else. And I'm not sure whether that's better or worse. Whatever.

Cristina: It's all pretty horrible.

Jack: All pretty bad. But, like, if you stop the Holocaust, Is he in stopping the Holocaust? Right. Just scaling here for the sake of introspection and analysis, but if God d*** this episode. If Biden were to stop the Holocaust, is that as good as Adolf Hitler stopping the meteor? Like, because, like, all right, Biden, his atrocities. Right. Harm how many people? Totally lives taken.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: People have committed suicide or decisions he's made as a politician that had led to people dying. Right. Would we say less than a thousand people?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. So then him stopping the Holocaust is impressive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What percentage of 7 million is about a thousand, though when you do the difference, is Hitler doing more good by saving 6 billion when he only killed.

Cristina: 7 million, is he doing more good?

Jack: Yes. Is. Is. Is the comparison here making Hitler better than Biden by total effect? Assuming Hitler stops the meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And.

Jack: And Biden stops the Holocaust. Yeah. No longer kills people, but somehow. Somehow in an alternate universe, Biden stops the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So is Biden because he saved way less people. Like how many times you multiply a thousand to get to 7 million?

Cristina: But he's also stopping the Holocaust. So those people Hitler killed counts towards Biden as well because he's saving those people or.

Jack: No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So he killed a thousand. But how many times can we multiply a thousand before we get to 7 million? And do we multiply it less times than 7 million to get to 6 billion? If that's the case, then in stopping the Holocaust, Biden has successfully done less good than Hitler stopping the meteor.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because we're talking all of humanity. But again, it could just be. I have no idea what the numbers are, but if we multiplied. In fact, let's find out right now who is. Who is less evil in one of these scenarios. Oh, s***. Oh, s***. Okay, okay, explain. So we're gonna start at how many people Biden. Okay. So, you know, we just ran the numbers, we did the math. So we're not gonna count all the things Biden did. There's too many. And a lot of them lead to mass incarcerations, which led to a lot of deaths in and outside of prison. Cops looking for more reasons to arrest people. Biden gave him that reason. More people died, shot by police, on top of the fact that Biden, it was against gay marriage, which then had a boom in the gay suicides of the 90s. And this is just a plethora of s***. But the one thing that his vote could have swerved in the opposite direction was the Iraq war that he was for and the Iraq war that he did not oppose led to 460,000 deaths.

Cristina: That doesn't sound so bad.

Jack: That's a crazy bad number. And if he were to go back in time to stop the Holocaust, which is 11 million people, all you have to do is divide the 11 million people by the number of people Biden is responsible for killing, which is 460,000, which gives you 23 people saved per life he took. That's beautiful. He's net positive he's in right now.

Cristina: Yeah. If he does stop the Holocaust, he saves.

Jack: He redeems himself. He totally redeems himself.

Cristina: Factually, yes.

Jack: But we know. So does Hitler.

Cristina: Oh. Piece of the meteor.

Jack: Because the meteor. The question is, how better or worse is Hitler to Biden's 23 people saved per life taken. Okay, in the case of Hitler, we have to do the total number of.

Cristina: People that exist in that time.

Jack: Well, the number of people he was responsible for killing, which is the same number that we divided by Biden's deaths. Except now that's the number we'll be dividing by because it's the number of people that Hitler killed.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: By the total number of people who were alive at that time, which was 2,300,000,000. And when you divide 2,300,000,000 by 11,000,000, you get 209 lives saved per life taken. In conclusion, if Hitler stops the meteor, even if Biden stops the Holocaust, Hitler is still a better person than Biden.

Cristina: Interesting. Because he's saving more people.

Jack: Because he's saving more people. So we've found the scenario in which Hitler's the good guy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Over some other person who people like right now.

Cristina: Well, one event is going to happen, and one event is not going to happen.

Jack: Yes. The Holocaust is going to cease to exist, thus stopping Hitler from ever being being a bad guy in the first place and never taking a single life. Thus, by default, making him still better than Biden.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It doesn't matter how this plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler's a better person than Biden is what we've learned.

Cristina: Because Hitler did nothing.

Jack: He either did nothing or he saved more people.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: In any scenario, Hitler is better than Biden.

Cristina: Wow. That is crazy. Whatever, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. There's no winning. Biden is evil.

Cristina: Yeah. Even though he's going to save the.

Jack: World, even though he's gonna save 7 million people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He still can't make up for the fact that he is still responsible for 400 and what? 450. 430 deaths of his own. 60. 460 deaths of his own. Doesn't matter that the collective total is. He saved 23 lives per. Because Hitler didn't kill anybody.

Cristina: Because he stopped Hitler from going. Okay.

Jack: On the flip side, if Hitler did, in fact, stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's why we got. We allowed him to go into cryostasis. Then Biden stopping Hitler will extinct humanity. Because Hitler won't be around to stop the meteor because he won't have the power of the third Reich.

Cristina: Oh my gosh. It's really. You see, time travel is confusing. It's always confusing. Time travel fair.

Jack: And this is Trump's fault.

Cristina: This is Trump's fault.

Jack: This is Trump's fault. He's gonna send this message back, Cause Hitler to rise to power. Hitler is gonna kill 7 million people and then he's gonna stop. But the 7 million people died anyways. Biden gets a hold of the fact that Trump did this and he's gonna stop Trump before he gets to do it, thus stopping the Holocaust. But the meteor is gonna kill us, thus stopping Biden from ever stopping the thing. It's impossible. It resets.

Cristina: Resets. So it's gonna happen no matter what though. Yeah.

Jack: Biden can't stop the Holocaust because it would stop the meteor. Yes, but it would. It couldn't. It could never. Because it would loop back to it happening all over again.

Cristina: Yeah, but it's gonna still be an interesting fight to watch.

Jack: Yeah, except he by default has to lose. The outcome is he has to lose, otherwise the fight can never happen because there is no Earth.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. So he's gonna lose. But we shouldn't be spoiling that to people. What if people are betting on this? Then again, this is on our world, not theirs.

Jack: Yeah. I have no idea what's happening in.

Cristina: Universe on this stuff. Yeah, that's good.

Jack: I mean, they could in theory bet on the show, I guess, on our newscast of it or whatever f*** is happening.

Cristina: Yeah, but if he wins, then what happens? Like would we even know he couldn't win?

Jack: Yeah, like what would happen if he wins? No. Hitler rises to power. Hitler with no power can't stop the meteor if the meteor hits and the fight never happens, so he never stops the message being sent that then allows him to come into power. So if he stops him, then he can't stop him.

Cristina: How do we make sure that he can't stop him? Do we have to help Trump then?

Jack: No, no, he can't.

Cristina: He can't.

Jack: He could never. Because the fight is only happening because he already lost.

Cristina: Oh, okay, I see.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz had he succeeded, none of this would have happened. Yeah, we'd all be dead.

Cristina: We'd all be dead. Yep. Oh, okay.

Jack: That's the problem here. Right?

Cristina: So he time travel.

Jack: Yeah, he failed already. We know he failed because it's happening.

Cristina: Yes. Alright, I'll make sense again. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. F****** time travel, man.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: Yeah. So now you're caught up on what A World War II is to some degree. Furnaces, rakes, you Know the works.

Cristina: Yes. Someone who likes raking a little too much.

Jack: Someone likes raking a little too much. And took it to the next extreme.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's probably has to do. It's miscommunication because it was obviously Trump just talking about how to comb his hair. Right.

Cristina: Because it did all star at Trump.

Jack: Yeah. Because he's sending a message of like, man, that guy had a slick back thing going on.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And I can send them how. How I make my slick back work.

Cristina: Oh, my God. And then he's writing in English.

Jack: And he's writing in English. He wrote rake.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it's like modern English.

Cristina: So it's not even English from back then.

Jack: Yes. He wrote probably like comb or something. I'mma comb my hair. And he's like, oh, comb, rake. Yeah, I get it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm like, yeah, brushing the grass. I know what he's talking about. I love brushing my grass. You know what? I'mma innovate society around grass and leaves. Cleanest grass, no leaves.

Cristina: So this was all due to miscommunication.

Jack: Yes. Because Trump just wanted him to have nice hair like Trump does.

Cristina: Ah, makes sense. Makes sense.

Jack: He wanted the hairdo that Hitler has to match his flag. The way that Trump's hair on some of those memes is the American eagle.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You know what meme I'm talking about? No, you know what meme I'm talking about?

Cristina: The American eagle.

Jack: Yeah. Trump's hair is the American eagle. You see? You see how that amazing America hairdo.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Is placed on this man's head. That's all Trump wanted Hitler to do, and he sent that message. But Trump, you know, he. He only has the best words to talk to idiots. He doesn't have the best words to speak to a highly advanced scholar. So he tried his best with his very good words for dumb people to convey an important message to smart people.

Cristina: About how he should do his hair.

Jack: About how he should do his hair. But his words on a scale are quite bad.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So, you know, N*** Germany happened.

Cristina: Ah, it all makes sense.

Jack: Don't make sense. All cause time travel, of course.

Cristina: History, man. Of course.

Jack: But it's gonna happen anyways because we can't stop it.

Cristina: Cuz we're here because we're here. Yes. So Biden's gonna lose.

Jack: Yeah. We kind of need the Holocaust to happen so that we can get rid of the meteor.

Cristina: That's definitely going to happen with the meteor. Yeah.

Jack: Well, we stopped.

Cristina: Definitely did happen.

Jack: Well, we stopped the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because the Holocaust happened.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And Hitler had enough resources and power to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It is what it is. We don't make the rules.

Cristina: Nope. We.

Jack: Some people and I began the episode with this. To some people, Hitler is a hero.

Cristina: The people that know this truth, the.

Jack: People that know the truth that Hitler stopped the meteor thanks to Trump.

Cristina: Well, not really thanks to Trump.

Jack: Had nothing to do with Trump. I mean, kind of. He only came to power because he confused the message of raking.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Became obsessed with rakes.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then created the greatest rake ever. But then turned on people because he needed to use the machines that rake.

Cristina: Technology to destroy the meteor.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. But, like, all of this is doom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The meteor stopped. Humanity exists today because Trump.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We'd all be dead if it weren't for Trump.

Cristina: Time traveling Trump and time travel save the day. Okay, 100% by accident, but.

Jack: Yeah, by accident. Totally by accident. But that just continues the story of Trump disclosing secrets at random and casually helping people without even knowing how he did it.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. That sound like Trump focused. This all sounds right.

Jack: Yeah. It's right up his alley.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Quite accurate, all things considered. It sounds exactly like something Trump would do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Say something that sounds kind of off and wrong and you're like, whatever, I'll respond to it later. Knowing you do. Somehow things got better.

Cristina: Whoa. Interesting.

Jack: Not to say the Holocaust was. Things. Was getting. Things getting better. But, like, what if we didn't have the Holocaust and the meteor did hit us?

Cristina: It has to be that situation.

Jack: It has to be that situation because that's how it plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So then kind of. I'm not saying Jews. What happened to Jews at that time was a good thing. It was horrible. It was absolutely awful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But perhaps necessary to stop the meteor. He needed the power in order to wield it and save the world.

Cristina: You don't think anyone else could have done that?

Jack: Not the way he. He was fighting the world and winning. He was fighting the world and winning. So that's the leader we needed to stop that meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And then he purposely lost the war because he stopped the meter.

Jack: Yeah, he stopped the meter. He's like, wars done. They said, if I don't kill anybody else. And I stopped the meteor, I'm good.

Cristina: Yes. And then he went to sleep.

Jack: He went to sleep. He immediately went to cryo stasis. And they're like, oh, my God, he killed himself. No, he. You saw him sleeping when he got brought out. You're like, oh, he's not moving.

Cristina: He has to be dead. He's.

Jack: Yeah, he has to be dead. No cryostasis.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Brought out. And he came back a couple of years ago to meet Trump for the first time.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: And then he told Trump, hey, I am a great strategist.

Cristina: So where's. Like, is he still around?

Jack: Other side of the wall. Oh, the ice wall.

Cristina: Ice wall.

Jack: Yeah. He went to chill with the big dogs out there with Tupac and Michael Jackson.

Cristina: They're outside of the wall.

Jack: Yeah. Anybody who's allegedly dead and got spotted comes back to visit once in a while, but is ultimately outside of the ice wall from the other side of. Flashlight. Earth.

Cristina: That's crazy. How are they all still alive? I feel like they should be old enough. Unless they all somehow.

Jack: We have the technology and. Or adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So they all probably just take an adrenaline.

Jack: It's probably just all adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's gonna get his hand full with adrenochrome. Okay. Let's see.

Jack: Yep, yep, yep. And Trump wants that adrenochrome too.

Cristina: You think he deserves it? Question mark?

Jack: I don't know. He saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If anybody deserves adrenochrome, it's true.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He saved everybody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean, he's also responsible for 7 million people dead, but he's responsible for 2.3 billion people alive.

Cristina: And it doesn't matter that both those deaths and aliveness are accidents.

Jack: Accidents. But thanks to him. Fair enough. Fair enough. He was just talking about his hair.

Cristina: He was just talking about his hair. Come on.

Jack: And so we can't attribute the good that happened to him intentionally or the bad. Yeah. It's mere chance. Just chance removed from it has nothing to do with him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler might have taken that to an extreme.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But the power was necessary in order to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it. Is Hitler a good guy because he saved the world, or is he a bad guy because he only saved the world as a means to not be punished for having killed many, many, many people?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, he did save the world.

Cristina: He did save the world, but he.

Jack: Also did opt in. He had.

Cristina: In, like, comic books. Does this situation ever happen where they team up with a bad guy and they'.

Jack: Oh, happens all the time, but it's not f****** Hitler.

Cristina: I know, but, like, what do they do? Do they arrest the bad guy afterwards, or are they, like, you can go for now. Just don't do anything wrong.

Jack: The question is, is Hitler in saving as many people as he did, even if, like, he had no option? Right. So it's like, you're gonna lose even if you don't lose. We kill you either way. Yeah, but you stop the meteor, we let you slide. Right? So in that scenario, he had no option but to help. Had he had the option to help and they're like, well, you, you could let us all die, it's fine. Either or you're going with us, whatever. Would he gone out of his way to save the world, to keep himself alive? Or is he like, humanity must live? Or did he care about his people? He's like, well, there's 4 million or there's 11 million I killed, but there's 22 million. I gotta make sure stay alive, you know? Like, what's the math he's in. Is it a choice or does he feel. Feel obligated?

Cristina: Too many questions.

Jack: Yeah. Like he. Did he have a revelation? He's like, oh, wow, I can't let everybody die. What about the 22 million who believe in me?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They depend on me.

Cristina: I feel like we need a time travel to find out.

Jack: Yeah, but we're gonna f*** something up.

Cristina: Yeah, we can't time travel. But man, there are so many questions though.

Jack: We can quantum computer that b****, though.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay.

Jack: That's what we could do. We could find out. We could add the variables we need that are necessary to figure out the truth.

Cristina: The truth of whether he really, really, really is a good guy or a bad guy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was definitely a bad guy.

Cristina: Yes. But like, but what was he thinking about when he was saving the world?

Jack: Exactly. Did he stop being a bad guy?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or was it like, this is for me?

Cristina: Yes. There's so many. Like, what if in that moment he was a real good guy? Like, who knows?

Jack: And when he came to meet Trevor, did he think Trump was an idiot or is he like, I should follow this guy, huh?

Cristina: Because he did meet him. He did meet Trump, but that was after the book. So was he disappointed? I bet he was disappointed because you're not supposed to be your heroes.

Jack: I bet he was disappointed.

Cristina: Everything he thought the book was about was a lie.

Jack: Yeah, he realized everything.

Cristina: He based everything off of his life was a lie.

Jack: His life was bullshit.

Cristina: Yeah. So I guess that would have been a really disappointing moment.

Jack: He looks at Trump, he meets and Trump is like, I remember that thing. Yeah, here's the original. And I mean, I guess Trump wouldn't have the original. Well, actually, Hitler kept It. Since he was a kid.

Cristina: Trump gave it to him as a child.

Jack: Trump sent it back in time. He has no idea where it was going. He just wanted Hitler to have it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which is weird because he only found out. Oh, my God. Time travel. He only found out about Hitler because of what Hitler did.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So he sends back his hair thing because of how Hitler's hair was.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then Hitler confused it for.

Cristina: I feel like it still works because of the miscommunication. It doesn't break it. Like, this is a perfect loop, type of.

Jack: Yeah. But, like, where did it start?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's always that.

Jack: But because we can. Oh, man. I guess the same thing applies with, like, starting the Holocaust in the first place. Right. Because it's like he sent it back. It only happened because he sent it back. But he only sent it back because he knew about it.

Cristina: It.

Jack: So, like, the Holocaust exists in a loop of one piece of paper about here.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it does. Well, we're not gonna fix that problem. And we don't need to fix that problem.

Jack: We don't need to fix that problem because if we fix the problem, then we all die.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's fine.

Jack: We need the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah. That's horrible.

Jack: The conclusion of this episode is that the Holocaust is the best thing to happen to Earth.

Cristina: It's not. It's. The conclusion is that time travel is confusing.

Jack: Time travel is confusing, but it resulted in the Holocaust, which gave Hitler the power that then allowed us to stop the meteor that would have extinct humanity otherwise. So without Holocaust, no humans.

Cristina: Confusing.

Jack: Yep. You know, that's. I did not expect to learn the things I've learned today about. About our universe and how it works. But that's. We are where we are.

Cristina: Yeah, Hopefully. I wonder what it's like in universe 3. It can't be this crazy.

Jack: It's probably really boring.

Cristina: Yeah, please. Time travel wouldn't be a thing.

Jack: No. And they don't know anything.

Cristina: They don't know anything. I'm sure they don't know Hitler became in power.

Jack: They don't even know if that happened. Everything is faith over there.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: They don't even know if it happened. Yeah, we're talking about earlier. They're just going off of sorts. Well, they have no proof of anything. And even if they did, they question that.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm sure the term Holocaust denier over there. Some whole other s*** that's just like a movement of its own.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, we're over here like. Well, the Holocaust, factually, this and you know, it was important to save the world to some degree over there. It's like, what, Holocaust? You're sheeple. You're falling for it, man. It's like, is that worse?

Cristina: What?

Jack: I'm at least acknowledging it happened.

Cristina: Was it made out of cheese?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: What if. No, you can't use gas machine to make cheese, can you?

Jack: I don't know. That's. I guess it's theoretically possible. Right. Because gas is just the gaseous form of any kind of solid or liquid. I suppose. Right. So if you could compress it enough to create it to make it back to solid, the only question would be, how do you turn cheese into gas? Because then you could have cheese gas and compress that cheese gas back down to cheese.

Cristina: That's a lot of work. Okay.

Jack: Innovations, technology, advancements, the superior human intelligence will allow us to create cheese gas.

Cristina: What would that be? For? What use would that be?

Jack: To eat.

Cristina: To eat the gas.

Jack: To eat the cheese that came from the cheese gas.

Cristina: But if you have the cheese, why would you need the cheese gas to make the cheese?

Jack: Well, no, if you have the cheese, you don't need the cheese gas to make the cheese.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Presumably, the gas will turn into cheese. So if you don't have cheese, but you have cheese gas, you can make cheese out of the cheese gas, but you don't need the cheese gas. If you have cheese, why would you.

Cristina: Ever not have cheese but have the cheese gas?

Jack: Maybe you're trying to get into your plane and you're not allowed to bring food. So instead you bring an empty jar, and they just see a jar with yellowish gas in it, and they open. It smells like cheese, but there's no cheese inside. So you can let your weird jar thing can go in, whatever. Then you take your jar thing, but your jar is also a cheese gas compressor. So you take your seat on the plane and you hit a button and all the gas gets compressed. Boom. Cheese pops out of your jar. Now you have cheese you can eat on your flight.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: A scenario where cheese gas is beneficial.

Cristina: That is crazy.

Jack: But practical. Okay, in that scenario.

Cristina: In that scenario, I don't know, I feel like just sneaking some cheese is easier than cheese gas.

Jack: Well, if you remember, a couple of years ago, there was a weird wave happening around here where dancing became illegal for a certain amount of time, and.

Cristina: People happens every once in a while.

Jack: Every once in a while, dance becomes illegal, you know, and then there's two people fall in love and solve the problem or whatever. Hey, I come from ballet. I'm A street dancer. It's super legal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like how are we ever gonna work together? And then they go and win a competition, the world is saved or whatever f*** happens.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you remember that we know weird scenarios like that happen occasionally. They're really hyper specific for whatever reason.

Cristina: Like when people died from dancing.

Jack: People died from da. Exactly.

Cristina: I think that's why it was illegal for a little.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense. And I'm not sure why we didn't draw that connection before.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So was the name of the movie Step Up? Probably.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Step up or Dance to Me or some s*** like that.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: One of those films. That whole thing is due to the nuns dancing until they died. Oh, no, that's unrelated town.

Cristina: Yeah, there were dancing nuns too. I bet. But they were also meowing. But whatever. Okay. What are you talking about though?

Jack: Dancing, dancing. That's why in Step up everybody dancing was legal. Just because people died dancing. We know it's dangerous. We know dancing is dangerous.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's not legal to dance. Earth has banned dancing because deaths.

Cristina: Yeah, but now it's not legal anymore.

Jack: Isn't it?

Cristina: It was illegal, but then we saved. I mean, the couple that had the good dance move.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. And they saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But that was. I remember that was the harsh dance demic of the. Of the 20th century.

Cristina: What does it have to do with anything?

Jack: The dance Demic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where people were dying in mass because they were dancing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we had to outlaw it again.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Well, I'm just saying it was just crazy. It just reminds me of the crazy dance demic.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay.

Jack: The fact that we regularly have to outlaw dancing once in a while because.

Cristina: Every once in a while, because too.

Jack: Many people start dancing. Yeah. Too many people do it. People get reckless and they die.

Cristina: It's really. If anyone does anything and every. Like if a group forms around this one thing, it becomes a danger.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Which. Whether it's dancing or meowing or laughing or biting.

Jack: And then we gotta ban it.

Cristina: Yeah. Just for a little while until people calm down. Yeah.

Jack: That's how it goes. And that ultimately what the Holocaust is about. Now, you know you've learned about the Holocaust in this episode. Pure clarity. And as soon as this show is over and we wrap up, I'm gonna ask you to recite what you've learned today.

Cristina: I don't understand how rakes have to do comb raking.

Jack: Comb over comb. Two rake similarities. Something got lost in translation. Comb, rake. Okay, sure. Combination.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I combed the grass yeah.

Cristina: But did we make raking illegal after the Holocaust?

Jack: For a brief moment. That's why the lawns look like s*** for the next couple of years.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But then we were like, this doesn't make any f****** sense.

Cristina: As long as no one tries raking three.

Jack: Yeah. Don't know. Rake three. We banned rake three entirely. That's still illegal right now.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Rake three, Totally still illegal. Rake one and two. Totally fine. We see those everywhere. Yeah, totally fine.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: We've done two everywhere. Rake 3. You're getting excessive.

Cristina: Yes. No reason for the rake 3.

Jack: If you do have rake 3, it's going to be super monitored and you can only have one and it has to be industrial purposes only. And nobody's allowed to walk into your rake.

Cristina: Yeah, okay. Yes. That's. That's where we live right now. Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys enjoyed the facts we spoke about World War II and the Hollow Holocaust. There are many conversations in which we totally justify all of Hitler's actions and much more. Probably not. We probably don't justify it. There was an episode in which we definitely created Hitler and Friends show.

Cristina: That was you and Ryan.

Jack: Yeah, me and Ryan. So you can find that episode somewhere around here. But there's a bunch of other episodes in which Hitler's importance on the world and how he's either affected it negatively or positively, probably mostly negatively. You can find all that. All those lovely episodes with woke jacation. The real information. Don't get fake news to death. Get real news to death by us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You'll find all that on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Cristina: Is that a thing?

Jack: I don't know. But, like, why isn't it? Right?

Cristina: Or Holocaust emoji. What would that be?

Jack: It's a lot. A lot of people. What do you call that little hat that the Jewish people wear?

Cristina: I know what you're talking about.

Jack: Okay. It's that hat in a furnace.

Cristina: It's horrible. There's no way that they would make an emoji. I feel like Hitler emoji would be more likely to exist than by miles. The Holocaust emoji.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you have any of those, just use either in your review.

Cristina: Okay. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. All the Holocaust deniers, you know. Tell them the truth is out there and they're just living in ignorance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And if they want the truth, they need to listen to the Rambling Podcast, brought to you by the Just Conversation Podcast.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: No, I don't know. Because it comes from living things, right?

Jack: So do babies.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh, yes. I guess it's equal. Two babies.

Jack: Yeah. Poo and babies are the same thing.

Cristina: It's the same thing. They're made from you eating things.

Jack: Me? Oh, yeah, Totally.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: And also, this kind of confirms the fact that what happened in that south park episode is true.

Cristina: What south park episode?

Jack: Where the Pope gave birth to Bono by pooping him.

Cristina: Yep. I guess that proves poop is alive.

Jack: Poop is alive.

Cristina: I did not.

Jack: Raise it as your own.

Cristina: What? Wow. Who knew? Yep.

Jack: Poop is a living thing. Now we gotta fight for the rights of poop.

Cristina: That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Poo lives matter.

Cristina: And what are we gonna do with that?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What are you supposed to do with Pooh?

Jack: I don't know. But Pooh has rights.

Cristina: To what?

Jack: To live.

Cristina: They do live.

Jack: Until we kill them by drowning them.

Cristina: They live there. They become fish.

Jack: They don't become fish.

Cristina: We don't destroy them. They just move.

Jack: We let the plants eat them.

Cristina: Yeah, that's also good.

Jack: We don't put our babies in the ground.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Elin Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 158: Gatekeeper Penguins

How does Martin Luther King Jr. Relate to Penguins? How do penguins relate to Flat Earth? Was Malcolm X more right than Doctor King? And where do penguins come from? Are they fairies? The upcoming Penguin Day and MLK Day get the duo excited to discuss the connection between the two and how both Penguins and Martin Luther King Jr. affected the world for the better or the worse.

Rambling 158: Gatekeeper Penguins

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Topics Discussed:

  • MLK Day
  • Hitler Day
  • War Reenactment
  • Everyone Rapes
  • Flat Earth vs Round Earth
  • Lyndon Johnson
  • Arctic
  • Penguin Fairies
  • Climate Change
  • Spacetime Portal
  • MLK vs Malcolm X

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified to since I released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody to talk to while you listen for the second time, because on the first time, you're gonna be nice and quiet and paying attention because you're a good boy, and that's what you do. And if you're female, you're still a good boy, because that's what you do.

Cristina: They're all good boys.

Jack: They're all good boys. Also, a good boy is what you tell somebody who's fat or something. Who's fat? Like a. Like a fat dog is a good boy.

Cristina: Really? Not a regular dog.

Jack: No, it's just a fat dog is a good boy.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: I don't know. I don't make up the rules.

Cristina: How. Where did this rule come from?

Jack: The Internet.

Cristina: The Internet? You read that on the Internet?

Jack: I see it consistently. If you see a fat dog, they'll be, oh, it's a good boy.

Cristina: It's a good boy.

Jack: Yeah, they'll say, it's a good boy.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Good boy.

Cristina: I thought they were just saying that to all dogs.

Jack: Boy. It's a good boy. Yeah, it's a good boy. Anyways, Martin Luther King Day is coming soon. That's in two days. It's Monday. It's coming Monday and celebrating Happy Martin Luther King Day.

Cristina: How do you celebrate.

Jack: How do you celebrate Martin Luther King Day?

Cristina: Yeah. You read his speeches?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Are you supposed to have them memorized by heart and then just, like, read aligned? I mean, tell a line to everyone you see on that day. You say, happy Martin Luther King and a random cult.

Jack: You reinforce segregation for that day so that people have to fight against it in honor of Martin Luther King's fight against segregation. So you have to be extra racist so that black people get extra civil rightsy and as a result, celebrate. You're trying to make black people celebrate Martin Luther King by being very racist to them and forcing segregation casually so they don't even realize it's a celebration you're doing, but you're being a good celebrity.

Cristina: They don't know how everyone else is supposed to celebrate it. They just think people are just being racist.

Jack: So for that one day, civil rights jumps way up.

Cristina: That sounds awful.

Jack: What do you mean? But then at the end of the day, they feel like we fought back and we got this and they feel so accomplished because they, they made it to the other side and segregation ends. They feel like Martin Luther King, except he never saw that happen because he died. So the. I guess in theory the most accurate way that this happens is you get really, really racist to anybody who's dark or like more than caramel. And then you force segregation.

Cristina: That's horrible. That's even worse.

Jack: What do you. This is the best way to do it.

Jack: So that the day is celebrated. It's. Hey, I don't.

Cristina: I don't think so. Right, because we're celebrating his death. What are we doing?

Jack: We're celebrating his. Him. Everything is involving him. But no, this is crazy, right? Because this means, like, I hope nobody celebrates Hitler Day, you know, because based on that logic, it's going to be dark.

Cristina: There is no Hitler Day.

Jack: Why isn't there, man? Is there Hitler Day in Germany?

Cristina: No.

Jack: No, they can't just like Jewish Survival day or something. Can you imagine Hitler Day? Should we start Hitler Day?

Cristina: And what would Hitler baby.

Jack: Oh man, you know. Do you know what Hitler Day is based on what I told you Martin Luther King day is? No, it's two plus two equals four, bro. It's going to be a dark day. But we can only celebrate that in Germany anyways. Which means for one day a year, Germany is empty of Jews. Because they're like, no, we're not going to be here for that day. We all take a vacation on Hitler Day.

Cristina: Is it like the purge?

Jack: Yeah, I guess. So Germany still has Hitler Day.

Cristina: No, it doesn't.

Jack: Yeah, it does.

Cristina: It still has Hitler Day. I mean, it made Hitler Day.

Jack: Well, I guess Hitler Day happened after Hitler's death. So once a year a mass extinction happens. Or not extinction, but you know, pretty severe moment on Jews.

Cristina: Or should it be on Nazis?

Jack: I guess. I don't know, man, because we gotta talk about everything that the Jews go through on. No, that's Hitler. Everything Hitler. Yeah, I guess so. So the first Reich has to rise and fall within that day.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But on N*** Day you go through the murder of Jews and then all the Nazis get arrested by Americans. So on day one, I guess, I guess you could say that N*** day is a week long. It's not N*** Day, it's N*** Week. Right. And so the Beginning of the week starts with a bunch of people rallying together. The second day is them, like, going and capturing a bunch of Jews. The third day is them starting to take Jew lives. The fourth day is the middle of the week, Right. Seven days of the week. The very middle. So here is. This is the peak. Right. This is the top. This climax point. So here you take. Yeah. Deaths. But also, it's the one day, is the first day that Americans show up to celebrate.

Cristina: And why are they celebrating?

Jack: Because they claim they stopped the war.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Although everybody else and their mother was already there waiting.

Cristina: So they're there to stop it.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. So on the fourth day, Americans are like, oh, yeah, it's our first day of Nazis Day, of N*** Week. So then it's. We go. We take trips, and they take trips to Germany, where then they start, for the next three days, purge, hunting the Germans.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And the ones that they can't kill before the last day, they have to arrest on the last day.

Cristina: They're supposed to be killing them. Yeah, well, they're killing, too.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: You're trying to kill them, and they're just not killing this whole time, too. Like, they're killing even after day four.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. They keep killing. They don't stop killing until day seven.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: When whoever takes the place of Hitler, it's kind of like. Which is weird, bro. Like, all jokes aside, you know how strange it is that we have, like, reenactments of the Confederate War?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This weird is a weird.

Cristina: I don't know. That's for history lovers, I guess. I guess, like, there's reenactment of many different. I'm assuming. I'm assuming. I can't imagine that that's the only thing people want to reenact.

Jack: Like, do people go around reenacting World War II?

Cristina: Possibly.

Jack: But look, there's video games about the worst day of many people's lives. There's so Many World War II video games and movies.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Some are just based on real s*** that happened. And it's like, you just. You know, for entertainment's sake, we're gonna go to the theater and watch somebody's actual misery unfold.

Cristina: Yes. But we love stuff like that. We love stuff like that, so why not reenact?

Jack: It's like that Ted Bundy show, right? It's like, here, watch something that did happen to people who are real and was totally horrible in every possible way. And we're gonna make money off it, and you're gonna enjoy it.

Cristina: Yeah. One day there'll be a VR version where you get to play as Ted Bundy.

Jack: It's gonna be great. People are gonna love it. You get to rape all the women and then kill them all.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: I can't wait. It's gonna be great.

Cristina: How far? It's so horrible.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I mean, maybe no one will want to play the VR. Maybe they want to just watch him do it. They don to be him.

Jack: On the flip side, I'm sure there's some people who fantasize about being seduced by him and then raped and then murdered.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or murdered and raped, regardless of what order he decided to do things in any given moment.

Cristina: I guess there's different versions of this game. You can play as him. You can play just watching him. You can play as the victim.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Whoever you want to be in his story.

Jack: It's capitalism, bro. If it sells, it tells.

Cristina: Oh, that's so horrible.

Jack: Anything is fair game. That's why I'm still kind of shocked we don't have petal dolls. Like, that's a market that is. I mean, let's be fair. Some places have pedal dolls, but, like, this is America. Why don't we have pedo dolls?

Cristina: I feel like if you have dolls that are made from anime characters, that's good enough, Right?

Jack: You think, like, what about guys who only fantasize about. I say guys, but I guess women do it too. Who only fantasize about. Like, that's sexism right there, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, that's a double standard. I'm like, guys rape children. Was like, no. There's probably women doing it too.

Cristina: Yeah. How dare you? What about those women rapists?

Jack: Yeah. No, it's crazy because the logic is that women get raped but don't rape, and men can't get raped but do rape. But it's like, that doesn't make any f****** sense. Of course. Both sides rape and both sides get raped.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: That is the only thing that makes sense.

Cristina: Yes. As far as I know, only female teachers rape. Oh, no, actually, both sides rape. They both rape students. It sucks. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Who the f***. It's not like the craziest part about. If you're male and your teacher, quote, rapes you, unquote, and you're suped. Don't. Don't f*** that person's life up because you're f******. Bro, Are you kidding me?

Cristina: If you're a male teacher.

Jack: No, if you're male student and a female teacher rapes you allegedly. But you enjoyed it and you just kind of want to Brat and share with the homies. Don't. You're telling them not to wait till you're 18. If it was up and they forced you to do. Tell everybody. Yeah, you tell everyone that, bro. You rat on her, you find her family, send her them photos of the rape. I don't give a.

Cristina: But if there's someone who enjoyed it.

Jack: And wanted it, you enjoyed it. They enjoyed it. It was consensual, even if illegal, because we made up laws around that. Just shut the f*** up. You're gonna get somebody in trouble when you don't want to.

Cristina: Oh, it's weird.

Jack: But look, we made up the idea of a child that happened in 1960s that we legislated in England. First, the concept of a child.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then we built laws around that, not giving a f*** because our grandparents were still like 12 year olds having children. S***. You know, like whatever. If you feel you gave consent, don't f*** somebody up. If you feel it was f***** up and wrong, do whatever you got.

Cristina: These are all horrible holidays. If Ted Bundy holiday and Peto. Boto Day.

Jack: Pedo day. What? No, it has to be based around somebody. I wonder if there's a Pedo Day.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: Why not?

Cristina: I don't know. There's a Penguin Day.

Jack: There's a Penguin Day. That's this week too.

Cristina: That's this week too.

Jack: It's funny because that's actually related to Martin Luther King.

Cristina: How is it related to Martha Luther King?

Jack: Well, there's a. The idea of penguins, not of penguins. Everything surrounding the Flat Earth Coalition has to do a lot with Martin Luther King and penguins.

Cristina: He has something to do with what?

Jack: The Flat Earth Coalition.

Cristina: What's that?

Jack: Us. Everything.

Cristina: Everything.

Jack: Reality.

Cristina: Reality.

Jack: Not reality really, but like the. Okay, I'll explain. Let's paint the picture. So people who don't understand flat Earth believe that the Flat Earthers believe, which a lot of people who are Flat Earthers and are idiots because they themselves didn't go check the facts or whatever. They believe that there is a wall of ice surrounding Earth region of.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: And that on the other side, it goes on forever. And that is reality just goes on more land forever. And that there's rich people out there or other civilizations or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blizzards, whatever. Lizards come from the universe too, but whatever. We don't f****** ask questions. So in the case of Earth, Earth is a. Is a. Both round and flat. You could say is both round and flat.

Cristina: But the part we're on is the flat part.

Jack: It's not really flat. But the curvature is so minimal. But to get a good visual of what we're talking about here, the best idea I have of interpreting it is if you look at a globe and you see the size of Puerto Rico on the globe, and then you draw a circle around Puerto Rico on the globe.

Cristina: Yes. And then you be a very small circle.

Jack: Very small circle. And then you take a map, a world map, but not on a globe. A flat world map, and then you shrink that world map till everything fits inside the circle. You drew where Puerto Rico was, and you put it inside the circle, and then you back up from the globe.

Cristina: And then that's the real Earth.

Jack: That's what we. What we call Earth is really just the flat part of Earth. We call that one region Earth, when in reality that's flat. Yeah. We're so small. That's flatter. Flat Earth is inside that. Now we're still on a sphere.

Cristina: That's humongous.

Jack: That's humongous. But we are not accessing any of that. We're not allowed to. There's no point in doing it. We work for people who easily come in and out, and we're allowed in and out. But the outside of the wall isn't allowed. The commoners.

Cristina: Yeah, we're not really allowed to investigate any of that.

Jack: Exactly. As you know. We're not really. Because our jurisdiction is inside the flat earth circle.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anything outside the flat earth circle that is not our business. What's happening out there, we don't discuss. It doesn't matter. We don't know. We're not supposed to know. It doesn't matter. Now, Martin Luther King had to get certain things legislated, but because the powers that be in land, rich people with a lot of ignorance behind them refused to do things properly. So Martin Luther King had to get in contact with their higher ups.

Cristina: So outside the people, outside the wall.

Jack: No. Yeah. He actually had to get in contact with the President of the United States from that time, which was Lyndon Johnson, I believe. And so he got in contact with, like, I could be botching his name. I'm not sure. But Lyndon Johnson. He got in touch with Lyndon Johnson. They had many secret meetings that have been. Some of them were secretly recorded. There's conversations that have proof of. And in those conversations, he got Lyndon to agree because Martin Luther King is not allowed outside a circle. But as a world leader, world leaders can go outside. World leaders can go outside if they have reason to.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And so he got Lyndon Johnson to agree. And Lyndon Johnson now World leaders themselves have to go. You can't send somebody who works for you. You have to go yourself. Your people can escort you to the barrier. Yeah, but they are not allowed out. No, only you as a leader. Because now you enter in your the bottom of the barrel. Outside, you might be the top of the s*** inside flat earth, but outside flat earth, in round earth, you're nothing. You're nothing. You're just the bottom you entered at the bottom.

Cristina: But you can go there to ask for help.

Jack: Yes. So basically, Lyndon Johnson goes to the overlords that are outside the flat earth ring and asks for help, because the people with money within the flat earth ring are lobbying to keep laws the way they are and to allow segregation to continue and to allow s***** housing conditions. And so he needed to jump over money with power. So he got in contact with the overlords. Overlords agreed to help and they got people to go in and make the people with money completely obsolete, thus easily legislating the end of legal segregation, allowing for better housing conditions for people of color and just things like that.

Cristina: And what do the penguins have to do with that?

Jack: Well, the penguins are. Well, I guess this is a different explanation. But the ice wall surrounding all of flat earth is guarded by a possibly chimera of some sort, which is a penguin. We're not sure if it's a human combined with some other creature, but a penguin, as you know, we have no birds. That's not a thing. They never evolved from dinosaurs or anything. But we do have penguins, which are biological.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So there's some made up invention that's happened over here. And so penguins are absurdly overpowered, absurdly fast, kind of like a hippo, you know, just really strong, really fast, really intelligent. And they guard the wall.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If you were to try to cross without permission, they'll kill you. They can easily dispose of you. It would be so effortless.

Cristina: What? Yeah, they have powers. Well, not any, like superpowers.

Jack: Not necessarily superpowers, but astound abilities. For example, you know, penguins are very quick swimmers. Well, quick is an understatement. We see, you know, Discovery Channel telling us about penguins, and those are in inland penguins. We're not looking at penguins guarding the border. When we go to those penguins, we're talking about things that move, you know, 100 miles per hour in the water. What, like you couldn't get away on a boat if you wanted to? Yeah, things with skin as thick as elephant skin.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: A torpedo in the water, basically.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: They're kind of overpowered.

Cristina: They're torpedoes in the water.

Jack: What, and they can walk inland way to the other side. They are.

Cristina: Who escorts you to the other side?

Jack: To the other side. And it's not an easy walk. It is far and they will take. Luckily they have villages set up and they can. The penguins can take you to their villages. There are probably. There's several stops. Several stops between the entrance of the wall on our side and the exit of the wall on their side. Miles and miles and miles.

Cristina: We don't know how long exactly.

Jack: I don't know. Ex. What was the last time we went there? You know, it's. Yeah, I don't know, but. Yeah. So those penguins, you know, they stop at villages, many pit stops. We can have machinery. So we gotta kind of get a shortcut. We pass all that s***. We don't really. But like these people don't.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So the president had to go and go through this whole trail.

Cristina: Penguin people. Penguin people or whatever we want to call them. We call them penguins. But they're not really what people think of as penguins.

Jack: Yeah, my. My thing is that perhaps there was some creature that existed ahead of time. And when the overlords decided that we should cut off the flat earth section of the planet and let them develop on their own, that around this time is when penguins were made. And we know that things like adrenochrome exist. I'm thinking that penguins are an entire other creature that was maybe given adrenochrome and resulted in the penguin happening.

Cristina: Okay. Of course, of course, of course.

Jack: That's how it would play.

Cristina: That's how.

Jack: Yeah, that's how it would play. I didn't just figure that out now as I was talking. That's exactly what would happen. Right, so the penguins, obviously, I've known this this whole time.

Cristina: Something else.

Jack: Yeah, they were something else. And then they got a dream come. We don't know what they were. So maybe some creature from the other side of the wall.

Cristina: Oh, I thought they were fairies, actually.

Jack: Yes, yes, you're actually right. You're actually right. They are actually fairies which don't really need adrenochrome. Adrenochrome.

Cristina: I mean, if a fairy is addicted to adrenochrome level, that's probably the reward, to be fair.

Jack: Yeah, because they. Well, fairies are already overpowered. Next to like a regular human.

Cristina: Yeah. Why would they be doing this? You said it's some type of chimera. So maybe it's somehow a hybrid fairy, non fairy culture.

Jack: Well, here's what's interesting interesting about this? We know they can shapeshift as well.

Cristina: No way.

Jack: Yeah, we know penguins can shapeshift. I'm assuming that that form that we call penguin is their default form. But like, I don't know, maybe could be wrong. They could look like some whole other.

Cristina: Yeah, but. it's so weird. They can transform. They can.

Jack: They shapeshift?

Cristina: Shapeshift?

Jack: Yeah, they can shapeshift.

Cristina: What? Yeah, they're shape shifting into bullets.

Jack: They could, I mean, I guess, but now they move so fast in the water, they could probably alter their shape to be really sharp and pierce through a boat that's trying to go through. Hence all the boats that get lost out there.

Cristina: But aren't there other animals that live up there? Are those actual animals?

Jack: No, they live way into the no life zone.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's the wall. Not just a place with Arctic conditions. They are in the depths of the Arctic. It's the actual everything dies here zone.

Cristina: So no bears or anything?

Jack: No, they need to be where there's trees and they need to be where there are other animals to eat.

Cristina: Okay. And this spot is just.

Jack: This is way away from dead snow. Dead snow? Technically not even like ground.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because there's no land up there. It's ice. It's just if the ice melted, there would be nowhere to stand. That's what it is up there. The fear that the people on the other side, you know, the Illuminati headquarters and like the Freemasons and just everybody on the other side, you know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Their fear is that the planet is getting hotter and the wall is slowly dissipating.

Cristina: Is it the whole planet or just our part of the planet that we're burning up?

Jack: It's our part of the planet. Our emissions from inside of our ring.

Cristina: In Flat Earth, it's breaking the ice wall.

Jack: It's melting the ice wall. The ice wall. The problem is that it's not dispersing because the ice wall is pretty big and so the heat is trapped inside. If it could just go up enough and leave, that'd be fine. Just roll evenly spread out evenly across the rest of round Earth. But no, it's trapped inside the flat Earth region. So it's melting the walls, trying to get out.

Cristina: Is there a way we can stop that from happening?

Jack: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We're still waiting on reports for that to find out what we could do.

Cristina: We can't figure it out.

Jack: It's not a job. It's not our job.

Cristina: Should do something.

Jack: We do things about flat Earth and we deal with outer space. We don't deal with round Earth. It is not our job.

Cristina: What? That's so part of our job? Sort of.

Jack: I mean, everything that we'd do to fix a planet is already sort of in our wheelhouse. But there are other people for that and that's their job. And when they. I get that we're the top and we should like, have dibs on what jobs. But we don't have dibs on what jobs.

Cristina: But we've solved so many things.

Jack: Okay, but we also have a bunch of s*** that's pending.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we kind of. They need us to stay focused.

Cristina: Yeah. Because.

Jack: Yeah. Okay, what happens? We successfully figure out the wall problem and we sleep on the f****** cat people. Next thing you know, they've made crazy advancements and show up on our doorstep. How? How do we win that fight?

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: We can't.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Does. Does stupid global heating bullshit compete with an overpowered, scientifically advanced creature so far ahead of us that it's basically a God?

Cristina: We should just send them some zombies. That's all we need to do.

Jack: Kind of genius. We should just send some zombies through the pyramids and just poof, they're over there and see what happens. But they're so advanced they could cure that. Again, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We're too primitive. We need to figure out kidnapping one of them and getting them talking. We need to separate them from.

Cristina: You wanna. From space.

Jack: They told us where their gods are. Yeah, we kidnapped the ones from the bottom of Lake Loch Ness.

Cristina: Oh yeah.

Jack: And they told us about the ones up there in the Great Void. Yeah, we need the ones from the Great Void. The ones in Loch Ness were an independent group. Once we have the one, at least one from the Great Void, we can ask about the technology that allows the Great Void to exist. And chances are that's enough to also solve the. The heat problem.

Cristina: The heat problem. Yeah, I guess so. We can get back to it eventually.

Jack: Well, we're gonna give that data. They have all our information.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They'll apply. They'll give it that data to the team working on the heating problem.

Cristina: I still feel like that portal we should be worried about because somehow time is messed up.

Jack: Yeah, this is exactly my point. You see, like we have things that trump the h*** out of slightly warm, you know, I guess, godlike cats that probably angry that we've captured, tortured and murdered some of their people. And probably Plotting some s***. F****** a whole rift through space time that leads to an entirely different universe that we should probably pay attention to. We got problems.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm starting to think they were trying to stop us somehow. Like they knew we were gonna ruin space time.

Jack: Who? The cat people?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know what you just said that I find really interesting?

Cristina: What?

Jack: And we'll come back to the f******. The wall in a second. But like, it's actually pretty interesting. But going off the idea that the cat people are in fact trying to stop us. Right.

Cristina: Yes, right, right.

Jack: Just. Just curiously following that train of thought. There was a version of me with a time machine.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Actively went forward in time to completely dismantle Earth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And assuming that they're so advanced they also have time machines, they know this happened and they're probably actively trying to come up with a plan to stop it.

Cristina: Huh? Oh, crap.

Jack: And that's probably what we stumbled upon.

Cristina: Then we have to get to them before they get to us. Us? Well, you specifically.

Jack: Well, they need to get to the past version of me that got to the machine.

Cristina: Yes. So we gotta do something before that happens.

Jack: Well, yeah, that happened in the past. There's nothing we could do. We would need to use the machine to go back in time. But we know the rule.

Cristina: That past you knew about the future. So is that past you even a past you or a future you that we haven't met yet or like the whole time thing is all messed up? Everything is messed up already. We don't know the order of anything.

Jack: Yeah, we don't know the order of anything because simply the fact that. Simply the fact that this hole exists is a f****** problem in time. Because chances are it exists before the time that causes rift that made it exist. So. Okay, that's f*****.

Cristina: Yes. I think this all started, though, because we stole the time machine. Maybe this not the time machine. Did we destroy it?

Jack: No, we have the time machine. We just don't use it because.

Cristina: No. Destroying the one in the middle of the Earth, I think might have messed up everything.

Jack: Oh, but that wasn't a time machine. That was a portal.

Cristina: That was a portal.

Jack: That was the reptilian portal to Universe two.

Cristina: Yes. Then the portal in my backyard. I think the portals, like, messed with time somehow.

Jack: I mean, yeah, they're crossing space. Yeah, we destroyed it. And space time is one thing.

Cristina: So. Yeah, I think that really has something to do with why everything's screwed up.

Jack: Yeah, but it's funny because we've had the portal in your backyard since before we destroyed the Portal that was connecting Earth 1 and 2.

Cristina: Yeah, but. I know it doesn't make sense, but you were stopping cat people before we knew cat people were in danger.

Jack: Before you and I knew cat people.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But I didn't. We didn't exist yet. Yeah, we were cloned afterwards.

Cristina: Yeah, it's weird still, but we don't know if that. That was another clone of you or that was just you in the future, because it's a time machine. We don't know which version of you that really is.

Jack: Yeah, we do, because he was sending people. He wasn't going there himself. He took one trip and came back and then started sending people out.

Cristina: But we don't know where he came.

Jack: Yeah, we do.

Cristina: We do know.

Jack: Yeah, we know that he was from this time sending people forward to prevent the cat peoples.

Cristina: But how did he know about that unless he was.

Jack: Because he went to the future with the time machine and saw it. He saw the cat people had taken over the world and went back in time to his time, and then would charge people to go to the future and would send them to random periods of time so they'd repopulate and overthrow the capipultimate. I remember that vividly.

Cristina: You don't think he was just from the future?

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. That wouldn't make sense because that's too far in the future. If it was repopulated.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: He had to have been from here because that's hundreds of years in the future. I'm not immortal. No, it's just me. But he took a time machine to the future, was like, no, this ain't happening. Came back and tried to f*** it up. Yeah, apparently successfully.

Cristina: Well, we don't know how successful, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: Fair enough. It could be that his attempt at stopping the future then force the cat people to advance dramatically in our own time.

Cristina: Oh, so that's the case.

Jack: Can you imagine? Just trying to stop them made it worse so that it happened sooner.

Cristina: Exactly. Should we be worried about that?

Jack: Well, we should be with. This is why we're focusing on these things.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: This is why we're not bothering with stopping global warming.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: Or it's not even global warming, it's climate change.

Cristina: And just in this area.

Jack: And just in this area, it's not global.

Cristina: Yeah. All right.

Jack: Yeah. So that's pretty much what's happening there. And actually how Martin Luther King relates to the penguins in the first place.

Cristina: And that's why those holidays are so close. No, it has nothing to do with.

Jack: Holidays are so close.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just coincidence.

Cristina: And that's why it said Bundy should have his own holiday.

Jack: Something like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. But yeah. Kind of interesting, right? So the road that. Because everything has that kind of seven degrees of separation or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: At least that existed back then. Now I believe it's two degrees of separation.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Or no, three. You and two other people connect to everyone in the world.

Cristina: Why? What does it never jump up so quick?

Jack: Internet.

Cristina: The Internet? Oh.

Jack: I guarantee you that on some social platform, you follow one person who's followed by billions. Maybe not billions, but millions and millions and millions.

Cristina: I follow someone who follows my. A Martin Luther King fake account.

Jack: Yeah. You at least follow one person who follows some body who knows who is following a million people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or you follow someone who follows a million people and by default, that person connected to everybody is then connected all the people. That's how it goes. So everybody's connected in that way. It's like 2 degrees or 3 degrees now.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: It was greater when that movie came out. Seven degrees of separation.

Cristina: Yeah, it was exactly seven.

Jack: I believe on average calculation was six to seven people.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: About two to three years after that movie came out. It was already five.

Cristina: Wow. And soon it'll be one. No, that's impossible. That's so impossible.

Jack: What do you mean? Of course soon it's gonna be one with VR.

Cristina: Is that how it's gonna be one? No, it's.

Jack: What. What would be. It could be in an isolated bubble in VR.

Cristina: So how are you gonna know everybody?

Jack: Because the connection gap is what's closing. Do you personally know, like, Eminem?

Cristina: No.

Jack: Do you follow him?

Cristina: Probably.

Jack: So like, what the fu. Of course, it's not like you're. You don't need any additional anything for.

Cristina: So you don't really need to know anyone.

Jack: You don't need to know anybody. You're just connected to everybody.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay, I see.

Jack: It's about how many moves you have to do to send somebody. Like a message.

Cristina: Mm. You know, all right, I guess I see how that works.

Jack: Yeah. That's the degrees of separation. You need to know everybody.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But I guarantee you there's only two people between you and the President of the United States.

Cristina: Probably.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: See how fascinating how penguins relate, right? Yeah, they kind of relate to everything. Because you always have to go through penguins to get anywhere.

Cristina: To get anywhere? What do you mean? Or you just mean outside?

Jack: Outside. To get anywhere outside of flat earth.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The ring where they are the obvious place where I said they were.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: To get through there. They're related to that.

Cristina: Yes. And they're related to Michael. Wow. I think I keep saying Michael Martin. And they're related to Martin.

Jack: Martin Luther King. Well, they're related to everything. Anybody who needs to get out.

Cristina: Anyone who needs to get out. Yes. And that's just the people on top.

Jack: He said, well, we don't know. We know the people on top are out there.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We don't know what else. Again, none of our business.

Cristina: None of our business.

Jack: It would be crazy if everything out there is way the f*** bigger and it's just two corporations out there. I guess not corporations, but organizations out there and nothing else. Everything else is just empty. Let's assume that's wrong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there's probably other crap out there, but nothing that concerns us, man.

Cristina: How do we know that there aren't cat people out there?

Jack: Doesn't matter.

Cristina: Doesn't matter.

Jack: Nothing outside of that matters. Nothing you say will make it matter. We have no answers for anything outside of that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we probably never will. No, because it doesn't matter to us. There's somebody who's in charge of dealing with that, and I hope they're good.

Cristina: At their job, and they could always promote us to be working there.

Jack: I feel like that would be a downgrade.

Cristina: You think so?

Jack: Working on round Earth as opposed to working with everything else in the universe.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I like the reach and power I have. They don't have subhumans just doing everything they want because of humans. Subhumans are a flat earth thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Really?

Jack: Yes. China is a flat earth thing?

Cristina: Yeah. They have to have things similar, though.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: I don't know. Well, we don't know, I guess. No.

Jack: Yeah. Like, I don't know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't have china. I know that much. We have china.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And because of that, I believe that a hundred percent. Like, yeah, they don't have what we have. But there's more stuff out there.

Cristina: But what else do you know about penguins as, like.

Jack: Well, how do you mean?

Cristina: Like their history or anything?

Jack: I don't know crap about penguins. I know that penguins are from the other side. I don't know what creature is that. It's. If it's a fairy. If it's factually a fairy. I believe it is a fairy of some sort. I don't know which side of the shadow realm it comes from. I don't know what benefits it gets for being on this side. Because fairies are the only creatures we know who can travel all the Planes without needing adrenochrome or fear in order to manifest.

Cristina: But there aren't any stories about them.

Jack: Not that I know. They've never been a problem to us, so we have no reason to, like, deep dive into them. We've not trying to stop anything. We're not trying to understand how they function. Because they're not a problem to us. They're guardians of the rules we already follow.

Cristina: Interesting. Lame.

Jack: Yeah. I'm sure there's interesting things about them, but they're peaceful creatures.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're not really out here trolling. In fact, they work for the good guys. There's no reason to like.

Cristina: But we researched chimeras before we knew that they were somehow involved with us.

Jack: Yeah, but chimeras have been known to do a bunch of bad s***, so it's useful information to know how to stop it.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: You know, the more we know, the better in the case of a penguin, like, what has a penguin ever really done other than protect the outside? And probably rightfully so, considering we destroy everything within the flat earth ring.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, it makes sense that they're not letting us get through unless they think they're not gonna destroy everything over there. That's fair.

Cristina: Okay. How do people celebrate Penguin Day?

Jack: That is a fascinating question. I have no clue. Dressed like penguins. Everybody wears a suit.

Cristina: Everyone wears a suit. I don't know. A suit. What?

Jack: Suit and tie for Work Day.

Cristina: That is horrible.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Why is it horrible to celebrate penguins? I don't know. It doesn't relate at all.

Jack: All right. How would you celebrate Penguin Day?

Cristina: Eat fish whole? I don't know.

Jack: Do penguins eat fish whole?

Cristina: I have no idea what the penguins eat. Eat fish? I'm assuming that they do, man.

Jack: I actually have no f****** clue what penguins eat.

Cristina: It has to be fish.

Jack: What else is there? Right? Like, it has to be smaller than fish.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Whatever it's eating has to be fish size or smaller. The end.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because, like, what the f***, right? How does it. I don't know. How does it feel?

Cristina: You think they eat the seals? No. The seals.

Jack: I know seals eat penguins.

Cristina: Yeah. Huh?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that much. Seals eat penguins.

Cristina: How are they doing that?

Jack: How are they doing what?

Cristina: Eating penguins if penguins are so strong?

Jack: Well, based on what they eat, we can assume we're talking about the weak ones in land, like, closer to us, rather than the ones guarding the wall.

Cristina: Because guarding the wall, ones are like soldiers.

Jack: They're soldiers?

Cristina: Yeah. And the rest are more like villagers.

Jack: Rest are more like retarded. Animals.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, you know, like the, the low budget, low IQ ones.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Those are the failed experiments.

Jack: They're not experiments.

Cristina: Well, we don't know what they are.

Jack: I thought they're fairies.

Cristina: Aren't they fairies? I don't know. They're chimeras, maybe. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, like I'm pretty sure they're fairies. Okay, like there's a good 90, like 5% chance of fairies.

Cristina: What are the chances that they're just robots?

Jack: I don't know. Separate that other 5% into everything else and you have the answer to your question. Whatever that 5% is. How many things could they be? It's one fraction of that 5%. So smaller than 5% the chance of them being robots? Yes. If 95% of them being a fairy.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: And then being a robot. Well, it has to be less than 95%.

Cristina: And you're saying Chimeras is also less than 95%?

Jack: It's less than 5%.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because if it's a chimera, then it has to fit with that 5% chance it's lingered. That means 2.5 for robot, 2.5 for chimera. Alright, you got some third option? Okay, then it's less.

Jack: So less than 5%. If 95 is the alternative, what about.

Cristina: The penguins at the zoos? What are those?

Jack: Those are the dumb penguins.

Cristina: Those are more dumb penguins.

Jack: This is just the average dumb penguins that didn't make the military.

Cristina: But aren't birds.

Jack: They're not birds. Have you ever seen a flying penguin?

Cristina: So you're saying birds are.

Jack: Do penguins have hollow bones and are they extremely light or are they heavy like mammals?

Cristina: Wait, they don't have hollow bones.

Jack: That's why they don't fly.

Cristina: Oh. What about other birds that can't fly?

Jack: Like an ostrich? Yeah, no, it's really f****** big. There's a different problem going on there. And its wings are not proportionate to its body.

Cristina: What about flamingos?

Jack: Flamingos fly.

Cristina: They do. Oh, okay.

Jack: Flamingos are great flyers, but also their body's structured in such a way that they're particularly thin and crazy light.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay, so they're.

Jack: An adult flamingo will be like £20 max.

Cristina: What? How tall can they get?

Jack: Like 5ft or something.

Cristina: What? That's crazy looking in the sky.

Jack: I mean, they're really skinny.

Cristina: Yeah, I don't know, it looks, it feels like it would be very alien to look at a giant, skinny pink thing in the sky.

Jack: Yeah, like gracefully flying.

Cristina: Yeah. Like we look like a worm in space or something. Like, what would we be looking up at?

Jack: I don't know. It's actually really interesting.

Cristina: That's so weird. So penguins, though, are special or the ones in the zoos. Yeah, that's sad. Okay, Special how? You said they're not like the. They're just the rejects of the.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's. You're thinking of it the wrong way, maybe.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Like there are. The ones at the wall are the elites.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Versus assuming that the other ones are the crappy ones. Mm, no, those are the normal ones.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: The crappy ones are the normal ones. They're not crappy, they're just normal.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: While the other ones are just better than normal.

Cristina: All right, so there's normal penguins and super penguins. Super penguins. Okay.

Jack: The super penguins guard the wall, okay.

Cristina: Like the humans and superhumans. Alright?

Jack: Subhumans.

Cristina: Oh, subhumans. They're like superhumans. That's weird that we name them subhumans, okay?

Jack: They have no freedom. That's the one thing that makes humans human.

Cristina: But they're superhuman.

Jack: What's the super part? With no freedom, you're just garbage.

Jack: I say what you do when you do it, that makes you garbage.

Cristina: Is that the same with these penguins, though?

Jack: I guess. But we don't tell them what to do.

Cristina: Yeah, we don't. Yeah, someone's telling them what to do.

Jack: Someone's telling them what to do. And it's probably the leaders of the Freemasons or the Illuminati or the, you know, the top chain of command. They're the ones out there making those choices. Yeah, completely interesting though, how the penguins are part of everything.

Cristina: Then we should have a weekly celebration, not just a day. How do we decide What's a day celebration? What's week? What's month?

Jack: I do not know. Why is it Black History Month and not Black History Year? Why isn't every day Black History Day? When black history did not happen all in one day? When black people came to exist and ceased to exist, all in February, the shortest month. No, that's not how that happened, but okay, yes.

Cristina: A whole month, though. Penguins deserve a month.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: They protect us 100%.

Jack: You interact with black people more than penguins.

Cristina: You want that to have two months?

Jack: I don't know who black people. No, I'm saying, like, way less than penguins is. I mean, the penguins should have way less than black people because we interact with black people. Maybe outside the wall there's penguin year or some s***.

Cristina: Yeah, I Don't know. So we should have Black Year. What would that be?

Jack: No, I think it's fine the way it is.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Just Penguins get a day. That's fine.

Jack: Yeah. In fact, there shouldn't be black history. There should just be history that encompasses all. Everyone's version of everything.

Cristina: Isn't that what history is?

Jack: No, it just tells you the history of the people telling you a story.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: American history as told by Americans.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: World history as told by Americans. Like. No, tell me everybody else's version of this series of events so that I can take what I believe.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, what is the British version of America during the World Wars?

Jack: Exactly. Well, I know what the British version of America is during the World War, which is that the Americans only came after they knew it was safe enough.

Cristina: In both ways, though.

Jack: World War II.

Cristina: Yeah, but what happened in World War I? I don't know.

Jack: The British were involved in that.

Cristina: I don't know. I'm assuming it's a world war.

Jack: It was against Germany, too. I remember that.

Cristina: Yeah. You're saying they weren't involved. They should have been involved.

Jack: I'm sure they weren't involved. I asked if they were involved. I that don't know anything about World.

Cristina: War I. Oh, okay.

Jack: But in World War II, I am very aware that everyone else in the world except the United states agrees that 1. The United States were a bunch of p****** that waited till all the problems were dealt with to come in and basically deal with stragglers and then say, we ended the war. Everybody has that same story except the United States. That is like, we got there at the worst and we did the most work and we stopped the war. We won World War II.

Cristina: And their story is we came last minute.

Jack: Everybody else's story is the United States popped up last second, did the least amount of anything, and then took all the credit and told every. It's like the dude who showed up last second, there was only a button. There was only a button left to press. And the United States showed up as England is about to press the button that closes that last gate, and the United States pressed the button ahead, and he's like, I did it. That's basically everybody's story. The United States showed up, did what was already done. It's like, I did it.

Cristina: But did they blow things up probably.

Jack: After everybody's been blowing things up for, like, 20 years?

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Actually, it's like 10 years, but you get the point.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: United States showed up all late and what blew up? Two, three, Things, and they're like, we did it. We stopped the war. No, you came as the war had already been established to end soon, and then that's when you popped up.

Cristina: Hey, we scared them to end it. I don't know.

Jack: Scared who to end what?

Cristina: I don't know. Whoever we were against the literal exact.

Jack: Same time frame was meant.

Cristina: Oh, not even like a day faster.

Jack: No, it was predicted that it would take, what, like seven months or something?

Cristina: Oh. And it's like, exactly.

Jack: Took about seven and a half months from the point that that prediction was made before the actual decline began. And around that period of time is when the United States. About the.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's sad.

Jack: Just tragic. Tragic. Pathetic sadness. And then the United States being like, we did it. Like, you didn't do anything. We're out here for the last 10 years fixing the problem you were staying away from, and you came in last year.

Cristina: That's what a history should be from everyone's point of view.

Jack: Yeah, it should be from everybody's point of view. Like, I'm definitely sure that England has a different story on what the f*** happened when people came to the United States in the first place.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: You know, and it's like, well, they were a bunch of p******. Well, I'm actually interested in why the Americans left versus your version of trying to suppress people in the first place. So, like, you tell me. Well, we were suppressing our s*** and they were making it hard. And we came over here because we wanted to not be under their rule. Yes, versus. They were a bunch of delinquent, criminal rogues that were on the run and they decided to leave the country in order to not get arrested. Sounds like you were just angry they weren't doing what you said.

Cristina: But they left and they were still with them. They were still partners, weren't they? For a while. Like, they didn't, like, run away and say goodbye to Britain at the same time when they came to America.

Jack: Yeah, they did.

Cristina: They did.

Jack: Yeah. They actually came and started a whole new country.

Cristina: I know that, but I thought they were still working together.

Jack: How?

Cristina: How?

Jack: Yeah, like, in what scope are they working together? For what? To what end? If it was religious oppression and rights that they were being violated over there, they left the crap out of that. Why stay in contact with them to survive?

Cristina: Because they had nothing here until, like, they learned from the Indians, I guess.

Jack: Realize how long of a trip you're talking about to come here in a wooden boat across the ocean? What help could they send? And if you could make it back. Why would you come back here?

Cristina: But wasn't there a huge thing of like they had a war against the British while here, while they already settled down?

Jack: Yes. Wasn't that the British invading to reclaim the people who are theirs?

Cristina: I don't know what the timeline. Okay. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah. The British American war was essentially trying to reclaim so that the Americans don't get their independence.

Cristina: Oh, all right.

Jack: Which then led to Independence Day where we did get our independence from the British.

Cristina: Alright.

Jack: Yeah. It wasn't that they were in cahoots.

Cristina: Why isn't that a month long? How do we decide?

Jack: I guess the end of the war is what we mark for wars.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So Independence Day happened on the day we got independence from England.

Cristina: When we have a day for a person, is that the day they were born or the day they died?

Jack: Usually neither.

Cristina: Neither.

Jack: No.

Cristina: It's an important day in their life.

Jack: I actually haven't the slightest clue. If we go back like Martin Luther King. I'm not sure what significance Martin Luther King Day has because I don't think it was his birthday. And I'm. He wasn't alive when civil rights things got done and that got done in many different parts at many different times. I'm not sure like what.

Cristina: What they chose.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It was just like, this day is empty. Let's put it here.

Jack: Yeah. Well, it's close enough to Black month. Can you imagine? I mean, it's in January. Black History month is February. Like it's close enough to black moon throws. You know, white people being racist. Martin Luther King is the same as the rest of the black people. You know, put them in the same section of the year.

Cristina: Is there a day for other people though? Like, that were as important as him during that time. There's plenty of.

Jack: You mean everyone?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You mean everyone. Martin Luther King is the least important guy in the civil rights movement. He was the kindest.

Cristina: So all those other people deserve a day.

Jack: They do. Where the f*** is Rosa Parks Day? There might be a Rosa Parks Day.

Cristina: I don't f****** know. There might be.

Jack: There might be. There might be Malcolm X Day. Those are people who were acted like, I don't like Martin Luther King, man. And I know that's controversial. People just freak the f*** out. Any lefty listening to this had a heart attack. But like, why would you support a guy whose initial move isn't to make white people accept black culture, but rather kill black culture by having black people assimilate to white culture? Get the f*** out of Here. Shut the f*** up.

Cristina: He's.

Jack: He's a racist. He's a black guy who's racist to black people. And it's like, well, if you're tired of being treated like s***, act like the white people. It's like, what the f***, dude? Shut the f*** up. Malcolm X had it right. He's like, we're gonna take the rights that belong to us, not beg them to let us be one of them. The f*** are you talking about, dude? That's why that movement f****** failed, because it's not gonna work. You're not gonna ask people to treat you like a person. And they're the ones with the power. They're just gonna do it. That's why today is still a struggle, because people worship the ground. The guy who was worshipping black people walks on. I mean, worshiping white people. He's a black guy who worshipped white people and wanted black people to assimilate to white people. And the people worship that ground, which then empowers the white people in the first place to continue the oppression. Because the leader of the black civil rights movement was on their side. Like, that's not right. Martin Luther King. Malcolm X is the right guy. He was like, they either treat us right or we f****** kill them until they do. We burn their buildings until they do. We kidnap. We still. We. We do whatever the f***.

Cristina: It was that violent?

Jack: It wasn't that violent. He was pretty aggressive. It was very confrontational. I'm exaggerating, obviously, but he was definitely like, we'll take it. We will take it. And that's where Martin Luther King and Malcolm X disagreed heavily.

Cristina: So for Martin Luther King Day, people should be celebrating Malcolm X.

Jack: Because he wanted black culture and values to survive the death of segregation.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He wanted black culture to stand on its own.

Cristina: Well, Martin wanted to.

Jack: He was like, whatever we need to do to survive, and if it means suppress our culture and assimilate to theirs, then we'll do that. But he preaches peace.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he is a minister. And people follow God, follow Martin Luther King, because Malcolm X is too radical and extreme. And, like, so he's abusing his perception. Martin Luther King abuses perception to rally people behind him, which is powerful. Don't get me wrong. It's powerful. You can rally people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Behind ultimately a good thing, which is, let's stop the violence against black people. But your approach is also the death of black culture. Dude.

Cristina: But did he see it like that?

Jack: I don't know. That's a hard question. Right. Because we're not in his head.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But his wording is ultimately. Yeah, let's assimilate.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Whether he believes that to be the idea versus the fact that that's what's coming out of his mouth, I don't know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it could have just been a means to an end to, like, hey, why people will accept the message if they hear us say, let's be like them.

Cristina: Like, the goal was more important than how we get to that goal.

Jack: Yeah. It was just like, let's stop the violence. Let's stop the abuse regardless of how we get there.

Cristina: Yeah. As long as we can end this segregation.

Jack: Yeah. As long as we get to live beyond this point, like, it's fine.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which. I get it. Yeah, totally. But, like, I rather die for what I believe in, you know? F*** your s***.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: F*** your s***. F*** your entire belief system. F*** all of it. Go kiss a**, bro. Not happening. Nope. I rather die and retain my identity, then live pretending to be somebody else.

Cristina: That's. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. I feel like most people would feel.

Jack: That way, too, except most people won't say that about Martin Luther King, even if that's what he represented, which were his primary disagreements with Malcolm X. Like, vocal disagreements that, no, we should. We shouldn't be becoming them. They either accept us as we are, or we will force them out of their places and take their seats.

Cristina: That would have been awesome.

Jack: That would have been awesome. But that didn't happen because the guy who ended up with the spotlight was the guy with the loudest microphone, who happened to be Martin Luther King. Who can get in a room with Lyndon Johnson to then get things accomplished in the first place.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Get voices from over the wall to hear him talking and then them coming in again. There's power behind this man's approach. You get to the penguins and you tell them, okay, this is the goal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This is why I need to cross. And they're like, well, it's a peaceful message. No violence is happening. You're not bringing any violence to this side. In fact, you're coming over here to ask for assistance with peace. Could Malcolm X have accomplished that?

Cristina: Probably not.

Jack: Probably not.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But Martin Luther King managed to accomplish it because every angle is peace.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The problem is an entire hope that.

Cristina: He'S a pastor, though.

Jack: Yeah. A lot of things help the fact that he's a pastor and that he.

Cristina: Died for the peace.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He does help that someone murdered him.

Jack: Yeah. It's the visual.

Cristina: Horrible.

Jack: It's the visual we get from Gandhi. It's a person who literally died preaching peace and didn't raise a hand at anyone the entire course.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: On the flip side, Gandhi was a bit of a racist and a slave owner, so whatever. But, like, you get my point.

Cristina: It's the image that we see.

Jack: It's the image you see that then conveys, like, people don't understand that Gandhi was a scumbag that was garbage to a lot of people, primarily his own people, and would support the idea that God is going to liberate you, so you must endure the hard times. Meanwhile, he's filthy rich and not enduring the hard times, but he also doesn't want them to come and take his riches. So they're like, you know, fear God, and so stay in your situation because he will save you. It's brainwashing. It's tactics.

Cristina: It's beautiful. I mean, it's wrong, But Martin Luther.

Jack: King, black man, 1960s, who owns a home and a car and gets to walk freely on the streets, usually without any trouble, because he's one of the white guys. Oh, he's to the guy who's trying to merge. Let him. And he says what to the people? Be peaceful. Be calm. Don't you raise a hand, because why? Well, I'm the leader of this movement. I'm reaping the benefits, not you. You're just the illusion that I'm building so that I can reap the benefits. Now, is he trying to get these benefits? I'm not saying he was. I don't know. I can tell you he had them.

Cristina: He had.

Jack: He factually, undoubtedly, unquestionably had the benefits. Now, was the gold the benefits? Probably not. I don't know. I wasn't in his head.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If somebody offers you a nice car and you're trying to make peace with them in the first place, are you gonna be like, nah, you're racist. You're like, it's a nice car, and I'm trying to make you happy, too. I'm gonna take your car and be like, thank you very much.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And you're like, well, you the one who could buy a house. Oh, s***. I wouldn't mind leaving a house to my children. Yeah, but, like, what about all the other black people who couldn't do any of that? You got a car. Your car's tires are popped immediately. Oh, stop being black in my neighborhood.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: You got a house. Ooh. Crosses on fire on your lawn. Ooh. Ooh. Be scared. Get the f*** out of my neighborhood. But Martin. No, no, no. He could stay. He's one of us. He's just a white guy who's dark skinned.

Cristina: Burning crosses is a weird thing. Where does that idea come from? Having the slightest clue, I wonder, because it just seems like an evil thing. But these people who are doing it are very churchy people. I'm assuming they're religious, aren't they?

Jack: Yeah. They think it's not evil. They think this makes sense. I think black people are inherently evil.

Cristina: Okay. Because it's just like the imagery is horrifying.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. It seems so dark and twisted.

Cristina: Right? Yeah.

Jack: I don't know, man.

Cristina: They live in a world where that's fine. You should do that.

Jack: Yeah, I mean, I guess. Different times, right? But that's why I don't like it's complicated situation. Martin Luther King could get a lot done because of his message of peace. But also he has so many benefits that he takes away from that that nobody else has access to. The flip side is you end up following him through ignorance. You preach unity and equality. When he was preaching assimilation, who was preaching equality? Malcolm X, who was preaching unity, not assimilation? Malcolm X, who was preaching. They treat us as equal or we force them to Malcolm X. And then we have Martin Luther King who's like, shut the f*** up, put your head down, do what they say, don't be violent. And they will accept us. They're just scared of us. Look, once they're not scared of us, they'll be fine. We'll be fine. But we have to show them that we are just like them. We are just. I had a dream that little white girls, little black boys can be the same.

Cristina: Oh, when is that gonna happen?

Jack: But his dream was kind of, you know, it was very assimilated.

Cristina: People like it, I guess, because they're.

Jack: Not thinking about it. No, they think it means equality. They think Martin Luther King was preaching equality. And so they talk about Martin Luther King when they're talking about equality. But he was not the equality guy. He was the assimilation guy. Malcolm X was the equality guy. People do not understand that fact. Just because he had a louder microphone and he said, don't harm people. But the people who he's telling you not to harm are the people who are harming you. Well, Malcolm X is. They come and kill one of ours, then they better sleep with a f****** eye open. Because this night we're coming for one of theirs. That balance is beautiful. Atheos. Oh, Atheos loves Malcolm X. Oh, Atheos. So does Baphomet. God of balance, God of honesty and God of Balance both of them. Atheos and Baphomet on the side of Malcolm X. And chances are Atheos also supports Martin.

Cristina: Luther King because he's still being himself. He's still being honest.

Jack: He's being honest.

Cristina: Yeah, maybe, Maybe, maybe. We don't know.

Jack: There's a coin flip.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So knows.

Cristina: Like, maybe he was just ignoring the fact that he was getting all these benefits.

Jack: Yeah. There's no way Malcolm X preaching violence and aggression could have gotten the penguins to let him through. This could not have happened. Yeah, it is impossible. He would have never been heard out by the Illuminati. He would have never been heard out by the Freemasons or whoever f*** he talked to over there. And the help would have never arrived, and the laws would have never gotten passed, and nothing would have gotten done. On the flip side, nothing got f****** done. As it is, they sent the help. We got the laws through. And racism persists.

Cristina: Yes. But the segregation ends.

Jack: The segregation ended, okay, but then redlining became a m***********.

Cristina: What's redlining?

Jack: Redlining is when you district areas. Oh, so like, your area funds that school.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so because your area is poor, that school is poor, and all of you got s***** education. Okay, so they stop segregation. But they just said, well, that neighborhood is filled with black people. Make them all go to that one school. Say that if you live in this area code, you got to go to that school, and then make that area the only funding for the school. And then they got no funding. They stay stupid. We keep all the power anyways. Thanks, Martin Luther King. You did it. I don't know what the f*** you did, but it's worse now. Now we're stupid? Legally, yes. Yay. When it's like, at least before you were in, you had black people teaching you f****** things to survive. Now you got a white person who's also broke as h*** and went to a s***** f****** school teaching you broke s*** under TOR Lack of resources. So we're actively dumber than we were before Martin Luther King's s*** got done.

Cristina: We are dumber.

Jack: We are dumber because of the results.

Cristina: Because of him.

Jack: It's because of him. Yeah, you got your whole. Segregate segregation was literally better than the result of Martin Luther King's outcome. While had it been Malcolm X's outcome, we wouldn't have gotten the penguins to let him through. And definitely when he gets the other side, they're like, we're not helping you do violent s*** over there. Do it on your own. But if his way Led to any form of success.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Redlining wouldn't be a problem, because we would have dealt with that, too. Exactly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Who dealt with that, too?

Cristina: Wow. Okay.

Jack: So we picked the wrong guy to stand behind.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're like, oh, peace over violence. But it's like, maybe that was the moment for a little bit of war. Because now if you are colored and not in a position of privilege to begin with, you're staying under.

Cristina: Yeah. Every once in a while, there's gonna be a white race war. Because they're like, we're gonna. There is gonna be a civil war, so we got to start it.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: I don't know what these white people are doing, but every once in a while, they group up together and, like, we got to stop the civil war. And then they start attacking people, and it's like, what?

Jack: I don't get people.

Cristina: That's happened quite a few times.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, that happens pretty often.

Cristina: The fear of black people is very strong with them. And the Civil War, that never happened.

Jack: Yes. Because it was going to happen.

Cristina: They always start it, but no one fights back.

Jack: We're just watching them murder a bunch of black people.

Cristina: Yes. It's pretty horrible.

Jack: The lack of violence has resulted in white people understanding that in the 60s and 70s, they were extremely violent to black people. And their leader said, let it happen and show them that peace is the way. So they're. What they learned from that is, well, if we hurt them, they're gonna hurt us back. They never got that lesson. The lesson that they're passed forward is, well, if we hurt them, they're gonna shut the f*** up and take it. And our children can learn this fact and do whatever f*** they want. And their children can learn this fact and do whatever the f*** they want. Because if we hurt them, they're gonna go march. They're not gonna show up with guns on our d*** and go march. We got guns. What is their marching gonna do?

Cristina: Yeah, they got gun.

Jack: We got guns. We can stop them whenever we want, whenever we feel like it. Their solution to us raping, murdering, and pillaging is, they're gonna go march. Let the march. Let's kill them whenever we want. Who gives a s***?

Cristina: Yes, that's exactly.

Jack: That's the lesson anyways.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: That's how Martin Luther King connects to the penguins.

Cristina: If you didn't know.

Jack: If you didn't know. But yeah, Martin Luther King Day coming. Go celebrate that. However you know. However you celebrate, if you do.

Cristina: Dress up like a penguin.

Jack: Dress up like a penguin. Hey, none of these civil rights laws would have been passed if not for the penguins.

Cristina: Yes, that's what you should remember from.

Jack: Yeah, that's what you should take. Martin Luther King's laws to help stop segregation legally and to help housing and all those benefits for black people. That all happened because the penguins at the border of flat Earth let President Lyndon Johnson into round Earth on behalf of Martin Luther King to gain help to then overthrow the financial powers on this end and legislate successfully without a lot of resistance.

Cristina: Oh, that all makes sense.

Jack: That all makes perfect sense.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys want to find out more things about, I guess, holidays. Holidays. Because there isn't really anything about Martin Luther King or penguins going on, you can find all that stuff on. On the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes, and remember to subscribe. That's very important, especially if you are from Universe three, where nothing I just said sounds realistic. You can subscribe. So you get new episodes and make sure to rate and review. Tell us how Martin Luther King functions on your side of reality in your universe. What's happening over there with Martin Luther King? What are the penguins on the wall of your flat Earth? And have any of you. Are you guys allowed into the rounder section of your planet? How does that work? Tell us all about these things that we do not have the data on.

Cristina: Oh, that will be awesome. Yeah.

Jack: So leave us a rate and in the reviews or in comments, leave us that information.

Cristina: Yes. And that someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Very important that you do that. Share it with everybody and anyone. Anybody who's curious about the other universes that exist, they can come and listen to us talking about Universal One, which I guess in theory to you guys might be Universe two, if you didn't know that there's other universes. But whatever.

Cristina: Or if they somehow knew about two before they knew about us, then this.

Jack: Is three to them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But whatever the case is, this is one to us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And yeah, let people know that this place is real, that they can learn about it.

Cristina: And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye.

Jack: Yeah, it's alive. It's a cell that functions without blood, meaning it's exactly what would need to be in poop, because there's no circulatory system. And it's exactly what could survive in that environment.

Cristina: Poop is alive is not alive. Poop is just made out of stuff.

Jack: So are we.

Cristina: It's not connected in any way. It doesn't have a real body.

Jack: The poop is the body.

Cristina: But once you touch, it breaks apart. I would think. I don't know, you know, like it's not a real solid body.

Jack: What are you talking about? Of course the poop is alive. Poop is living. We've, we've, we've brought that to a conclusion. There's not a debate here. It's made of living bacteria and living cells.

Cristina: That's enough.

Jack: That's enough. We're made of living cells. Tells as well.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 157: Universe 3

The duo is surprised by a report that lands on their desks with details on what’s across Cristy’s Portal, which turns out to be a third parallel universe similar to Universe 2 where replacement Mars was acquired and its the origin home of Reptilians. With this new information in hand, our duo unpacks the nature of Universe 3 and how it related to Universe 1.

Rambling 157: Universe 3

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Topics Discussed

  • Subhumans
  • Cristy’s Portal
  • Government Checks and Balances
  • Mythological Creatures
  • Universe 3 Birds are Real
  • Dinosaurs
  • Mars
  • Questioning Facts
  • Spacetime Distortion
  • South Park vs North Drive
  • Universe 3 TV
  • Tangled Parallel Universes
  • Time Travel Can of Worms

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to Rambling, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I am your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you have not yet, remember to hit the subscribe button and then you'll be notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. So be sure to tell somebody. Okay. No, this is. This is where the problem begins. Right? This is exactly where the trouble begins. Because we say this and like, oh, my God, this sucks. Okay, okay. So a couple of days ago. This is. Okay, Chris, Christina here and I, we're fully aware of what I'm about to tell you that. About the report that we recently got on our desk.

Cristina: This is pretty shocking. Okay.

Jack: Pretty shocking. And it definitely circles back to, you know, tell somebody or whatever. Because the problem is the somebody you're telling is not somebody we could in theory meet. Although it is. But not by any. No. Like, I couldn't walk to you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I couldn't just take a plane to you, although I could in theory reach you, but not by the means you'd think. So a couple of days ago we finished reviewing 2021 and, you know, we were letting you guys know all the cool, fun stuff that took place and we found out.

Cristina: So mind blowing.

Jack: It's mind blowing. I don't even know how to explain this.

Cristina: So we start with there's a. You know, we always talk about Universe one and two.

Jack: Yes. Okay, so you guys understand that there's Universe One and there's Universe two. And the reason we had to visit Universe two in the first place, just to make sure you remember, we can visit Universe 2 was because we inadvertently, by total accident, destroyed our Mars. And then we replaced our Mars by stealing the universe to Mars. Yeah, because Planet X is going to crash into us and kill us. Unless the gravity was.

Cristina: The way we got into Universe two was in the middle, the center of our universe, for some reason, where the Reptilians were. Yeah, they had a portal, too.

Jack: Yeah, we thought we killed a bunch of them. And we also enslaved an absurd amount of Reptilians.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Actually on Mars, which is ironic, but whatever. So we then used up their portal.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then got to. Because they come from universe too. They're from the center of the Earth of universe too. Or maybe they're not from the center of the Earth. They're probably from Mars, to be honest. And they just got to Earth, made the portal there, and then use that to get. I don't.

Cristina: Yeah, but whatever. Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah, so there's a Universe one and two, Right. Logic. This is just well established show lore. Now we got a report that said, hey, hey, guys, there's a universe 3. And we're like, oh, wow, that's really weird. But like, yeah, there's Universe two. Of course it would be Universe Three.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then they come and tell us on the report, hey, that's your audience. I'm like, what?

Cristina: What?

Jack: What? So then I go to. Now, this report was brought to us by our lovely subhumans.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so I go to sub humans. I'm like, hey, hey, you piece of s*** garbage bottom feeder. What the f*** did you and your losers come up with? What are you trying. What are you. What are you whack a******* trying to tell me? Like. Yes, sir. Thank you for the compliments. And also. So, yeah, they explained in quite excruciating detail that the portal in Christina's backyard.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, yes, because we sent them to explore that portal.

Jack: Yes. They were exploring the portal. And we got the results. Results are in, people. And it turns out that portal goes to Universe three. So we've actually had access to Universe three before. We've had access to Universe two.

Cristina: Yeah, we just didn't. Yeah, we just explore it.

Jack: Exactly. We're naming it in disorder, but technically, Universe three is Universe Two. But now it's just Universe three. It is what it is. We don't want to create confusion. And apparently that portal is causing distortions, and those distortions seem to affect 100% of our radio waves. So all the media we have here, all of it. All of it.

Cristina: Everything we've ever done, everything we've ever.

Jack: Done, anything anybody here has ever done. As long as. Like, in. On Earth, as long as the portal has been active, nobody has noticed that we're actually one. Receiving things from other universes ourselves. We never notice because we don't f****** watch tv.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we don't really listen to radio.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But apparently has been happening. And the universes are similar enough that we just think everything on TV is fiction based on reality.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But apparently not. And apparently that causes everybody in all.

Cristina: Our broadcasts go to Universe three. So if you're hearing us, you're in Universe Three.

Jack: Yes. That is. That's. That's the f****** mic drop right there.

Cristina: So it's a good thing we recommend you guys to spread our podcast because we can't reach out to them anyway.

Jack: Yeah. So, yeah, we've always been Talking to Universe 3 and we've just recently found that out. So that's exciting and interesting and brand new. The third universe is. I mean, I don't know if it's a third universe. Third one we know of. I don't know what order they came, but yeah, whatever. Universe 3 to us. And yeah. So you guys are all in Universe Three. So when we say, you know, tell somebody, because this is better with a listening partner. That's fantastic.

Cristina: It is.

Jack: That's totally fantastic. So apparently, because of this, probably a lot of the things we say sound crazy.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. I guess so.

Jack: Because the report also included some of the details that are different over there.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And apparently the Illuminati is either not a thing or a shadowy organization of some sort.

Cristina: And it's well known over here, and it's just a real well known place.

Jack: Just like it's like we're broadcasting their.

Cristina: News because they want us to do that.

Jack: Yeah, it's our job.

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: But yeah, so some of the differences make it quite shocking because again, the Illuminati is just like, not only is it a shadowy figure or doesn't exist at all, but if it does exist, there's no bad guys. The craziest s*** about universe 3 is that they have an unchecked government. There's. There's no contrast. There's no nothing. The government is the top. There's no rival.

Cristina: There's no rival.

Jack: Yeah. Every country is just their government and then there's no. They just get to do whatever the f*** they want.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: And over here we have the Illuminati. They're on top in opposite to the government. So they work. Yeah, it's kind of on top because the checks and balances on the government are managed by the Illuminati.

Cristina: Yeah. Which the queen rules.

Jack: Which queen rules?

Cristina: I guess that's a little similar. I mean, they have a queen too, right?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have a queen, but I don't think the queen rules the world over there. I think the Queen just kind of rules a country or something.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Like, I don't think she ever expanded out of England, which doesn't make sense because you have so many resources, but whatever. Yeah, that's strange.

Cristina: That is strange.

Jack: It's strange that governments go unchecked. What the f***?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's absurd, dude. That's so crazy to me that they have governments that are unchecked we don't have that s*** over here. We just handle s***. The Illuminati gets the last word. Usually there's no word said, and government's got to do whatever, but you overreach and boom, we fix a problem. They just don't have that over there. It's just the government overreach, and it just is what it is.

Cristina: How many other things are different, though? There's gotta be so much.

Jack: You're about to be blown away you didn't really go through the whole f****** thing. Okay, I'm gonna tell you some of the craziest s***, right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: This is the. Oh, God. You're gonna. This. This one's gonna break your heart. So you are the residential expert on creatures here, and everything over there stops at animals.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: There is only variants of animals. There are no ghost, no demons, no werewolves, no vampires, no zombies, no fairies, no Chupacabra. No Chupacabra.

Cristina: No, no.

Jack: It's all myths over there. Stories they tell each other.

Cristina: Not even the unicorn.

Jack: This kind of. Not even unicorn. This reminds me of, like, DC shows that they'll have, like, oh, Marvel's comic books in this world, but then Marvel, like, DC is comic books in this world, so that there's a bit of that happening here.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Where this probably just sounds like bullshit to everybody over there because. Oh, it's a fake. We've actually been reporting on things from our universe, so it sounds like ridiculous nonsense to them.

Cristina: But Santa Claus is also their God, too, right?

Jack: No, no, no. Santa Claus is not real either.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. He's not real.

Jack: Yeah. They're not even sure their gods are real.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Like, none of them. They have no proof of any of them.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: It's just the books. Over here. We have the books. We can investigate. We can go see proof and figure out, like, was this. What kind of a God was he? If there is a God at all. If not, what creature was that?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Do you know? There's always an explanation over there. No, no, no, no, no. It's all faith. You gotta trust. Which defeats the purpose, because what the f***? You don't question your gods.

Cristina: That is crazy. That is so crazy. What? No wild, mythical creatures. I mean, they're myths, I guess. They're truly just myths.

Jack: They're just mythological.

Cristina: What?

Jack: They're not mythical, as in passed down through time and we got to track them down because they're rare.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They just don't exist. There's no proof. They're just Myth.

Cristina: They're just myth.

Jack: Not mythological and magical and weird. Just not real.

Cristina: That is a sad world.

Jack: This is a sad world. On top of the fact that all these conspiracy theories.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Over here, they're conspiracies and we joke about them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They are literally just conspiracy theories over there. Again, it's so. It's weird because it's like nothing is proved over there. They exist in total uncertainty.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't know the answer to anything.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Are there other creatures and animals Maybe. I don't know. Are there gods? Maybe.

Cristina: Are there aliens over there?

Jack: They don't know. Oh, that is an ongoing question.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: They don't know.

Cristina: They don't know anything.

Jack: They don't know it. Yes. Yes. I guess that's the summary.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Well, at least through us, they may know something. Oh, but what if they.

Jack: They probably think this shows fiction.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. Right? It would. That would make sense.

Jack: It would make sense that we just have all the proof all the time and they've never seen any of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they probably just thought this was entertainment rather than a news channel.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Wow.

Jack: That's weird, Right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Interesting. They thought that us talking this whole time was like an act of some sort rather than us reporting the news to them.

Cristina: Crap.

Jack: Because our news doesn't make sense to people who don't have answers when all we do is give answers.

Cristina: Oh, no. Wow. So not even zombies?

Jack: Oh, no. Zombies.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's just a show to them.

Cristina: That's just a show to media.

Jack: It's all media.

Cristina: All of it.

Jack: All of it.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Wow. So are we gonna go through my portal? Should we? No. Right?

Jack: Why?

Cristina: There's no benefit to that.

Jack: There's no benefit. It's just another universe.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: And they have nothing exciting over there.

Cristina: I guess not.

Jack: It's kind of all just speculation. What are we gonna do? Ruin their entire reality by taking information and going to prove it? That's crazy.

Cristina: That is crazy. I guess that'll be just like our backup in case something wrong. Like Mars.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All else fails, we have a f****** portal. We could just run away over there. Yeah, but holy s***, we're gonna be useless.

Cristina: We're gonna be useless.

Jack: Yeah. There's no we. We are useless. Our skills don't apply in a world where there's nothing but people.

Cristina: Yeah, that is sad.

Jack: F*** are we gonna do? Just take down the government on our own? No, I guess we in theory could, but.

Cristina: But if we needed something from over there, we can take it. Yeah, easily that's what I'm thinking about.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. 100%. We could just rob them. What the f*** are they gonna do?

Cristina: Yeah. Like, what if we want their second. Their moon? We can have a second moon.

Jack: We could. My question is now. We didn't go through the portal. We know only one other person who went through the portal went through the portal. Ishmael.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Yes, he did.

Jack: Ish jumped in and he jumped back, and he's like, it's fine.

Cristina: Yeah. I guess he was telling the truth. Okay. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. We didn't get told where it opens to. We just know it goes to universe 3. Nobody's found this portal, like, wandered through it.

Cristina: Oh, in universe three?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's.

Jack: How many people just wandering around here, like, what the f*** is happening? Because they walk through the portal.

Cristina: Whoa. I wonder.

Jack: Like, where is it? Is it in the same place behind your house, but over there, but over there?

Cristina: People from over there accidentally walking over here. Yeah.

Jack: But then they'd see something supernatural.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And in their world, supernatural doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. It's not just something natural. That's super. It's a myth.

Cristina: Mm. But maybe that's where all those stories. Because people still believe in things like UFO and stuff like that. They're stories. Even if no one else believes these people that go through these things, maybe they walked into our world, went back to tell their story.

Jack: But then why isn't there any. Like, why isn't there a bunch of people coming through the portal? Why didn't the person who came through be, like, I can prove it and show them the portal.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Why aren't there people just coming through the portal?

Jack: First question. How long has a portal been around? Yeah, we know it just popped up in your backyard, but did it come from somewhere?

Cristina: Did it come from somewhere? That's weird. Yes. Did it come from somewhere? And what if no one from over there can go through the portal?

Jack: Then we.

Cristina: Because there's no proof that it could happen. We got to watch, I guess, the portal more.

Jack: No, because we got both Ish to go in and back.

Cristina: Yeah. Everyone from here can go through there.

Jack: Oh.

Cristina: But does it work the same for people from there? Because the people who are going there come back, but they started from here anyway.

Jack: Yes. Yes. Well, wouldn't it apply two ways that they can come and then go back?

Cristina: Maybe if they're just from here. I don't know.

Jack: You're saying they can't even see the portal?

Cristina: Yeah. Like, what if it's not because it makes sense in our world. The portal just makes sense like everything else makes sense.

Jack: Right, but why wouldn't they be able to see it? Rather than it just be a thing that doesn't make sense in their world?

Jack: That's. That's the part we don't understand. Right.

Cristina: Like how.

Jack: How has this not been explored by the other side?

Cristina: Yeah, I don't know.

Jack: That's a real question.

Cristina: We're really weird thing also.

Jack: Holy s***.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Prepared to be blown away by this one.

Cristina: More blown away.

Jack: More blown away. This is. This is. This one's crazy. And it's weird because I guess this one's backwards from how it is here. Right? We know factually that there are true conspiracy. There's the conspiracies over here again. Aren't just theories, they're series on how they function. Thus conspiracy theories. But it's a real conspiracy.

Cristina: Yeah, it's. These things are really happening.

Jack: These things are really happening over there. It's just theories. It's not a theory on how the conspiracy taking place. It's theory that the conspiracy is real.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Right. So over here we know factually what the birds are manufactured. Yes, they're real. Over there. That's a thing.

Cristina: They're real over there.

Jack: Yes, biological birds, but we have no birds.

Cristina: We just have creatures that look like birds though.

Jack: We don't have creatures. I mean, we have. Yeah, I guess there's flying things.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: A dragon isn't a bird.

Cristina: Yeah. Mm.

Jack: They have birds. Like animals. They have animal birds.

Cristina: They have animal birds.

Jack: They have animal birds, not dinosaurs. Weird, weirdest part about this. This. Oh f***. This is gonna blow your mind. I'm telling you. This is the craziest s*** ever. They're birds.

Jack: Came from dinosaurs.

Cristina: That is weird. Dinosaurs got extinct and that was it. Yeah, but over there they turned into birds.

Jack: I don't even. I don't even know how to explain this one because it doesn't make sense through what process we know the whole planet got turned into lava for millions of years. Yeah, because of the giant rock that was sent by the aliens.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: No, no. Over there they just. They just became birds.

Cristina: They just became birds. That's so crazy. But we don't have birds. That's not cool. I mean, we have birds, but it's not natural.

Jack: Well, this takes us to what we were talking about, right, right at the beginning. We could always steal s*** from over there.

Cristina: Oh crap. These had conspiracy with birds too. Like they have theories on birds that.

Jack: Are no no, no. The conspiracy is over here. The birds were manufactured, okay? And then the government tried to convince us all that they were real. But our job was to uncover that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we know birds aren't real. Everybody knows birds aren't real.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We advertise it. Everybody knows. It gets put in newspaper, you watch tv, all everything tells you there are no birds. We have figured it out. We've let everybody know there's no birds. It's been fact over there, they just are.

Cristina: There just are.

Jack: Well, yes, that's kind of weird, but we can steal birds and maybe breed birds over here. On the flip side, perhaps birds can't survive over here. Thus, no birds. No, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

Cristina: They should.

Jack: The weird part isn't that there are no birds over here. After a giant meteor sent by the aliens destroyed Earth. The weird part is that they allegedly also, by the way, their meteor was not sent by aliens. Was just some rogue rock that somehow had f****** accuracy.

Cristina: And hit Earth.

Jack: Yeah. Without being aimed. Yeah, it just, you know, cruising by. But there's a planet, it's super small in all this vast empty space. I'mma hit that.

Cristina: How the f***. That is very strange.

Jack: That was not aimed. It just hit.

Cristina: It just hit.

Jack: It just hit. What the f***? Mad empty space everywhere. No, it had to hit the one f****** thing. The only place there's f****** life, according to them.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: What? Over here makes sense. The other thing with life was like, f*** that life aimed the thing.

Cristina: Alien wars. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Perfect logic. They want the f****** planet, but there's monsters roaming.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Over there. No. Rogue rock. Had the thought or something. I don't f****** know how the h*** it works. And it's like, hey, planet, let me go. Hit the planet. How? How the f*** did you hit the planet one? You picked one of the smaller objects in the f****** system. Are you kidding me? The weaker gravitational force. That's where you're aiming. So it wasn't gravity pulling it in. How the f*** are you aiming in that direction? Why didn't you just go to the star?

Cristina: Go to the star? Yeah. Why don't you go to the sun?

Jack: Who the f*** knows? This was a rock with thought or something.

Cristina: Yeah. It went straight to the Earth.

Jack: Straight and destroyed the Earth. And somehow birds happen.

Cristina: Whoa. That is weird. Yep, that is weird. We got to breed these birds, though. We got to steal them.

Jack: Yeah, the craziest. They think it's evolution, but it's a. Oh, my God.

Cristina: They think it's evolution. You don't think it's.

Jack: No, no, no, no. I'm about to blow your mind because I'm gonna just say one sentence. You can be like, what? Right? We know evolution is a fact, okay? Which explains why the f*** we have no birds. Because when you kill the things that would, in theory, turn into birds, what the f*** is gonna turn into a bird? Also, how is something the size of a building gonna turn into a f****** thing the size of my hand? Get the f*** out of here. But whatever. Logic.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: Over there, they say the birds came from the dinosaurs. Great. Whatever you want to tell yourselves, yes, they believe it. But let me tell you very directly. It's called the theory of evolution.

Cristina: It's called the theory of evolution because.

Jack: They'Re not even sure about that f****** thing. They're just faith in that, too. Everything is faith.

Cristina: That makes sense. Yes. A part of what you've taught me about everything else about there.

Jack: It's just all speculation.

Cristina: Speculation.

Jack: They don't know anything factually.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: They know there's birds. They don't know where the f*** the birds come from. For whatever reason. They think dinosaurs is the answer to that question.

Cristina: Yes. But they think. They don't know.

Jack: They think. They don't know.

Cristina: They don't know.

Jack: Well, no, they don't know.

Cristina: So they think they might. They don't know it.

Jack: They might be right. But who the f*** is. Why is it still a no? They don't know. Why is it still a theory? They don't know anything. They don't know anything. They don't know anything. Also, they don't have a way to tell the future over there.

Cristina: They don't have. Do we have a way? Oh, the quantum computer. They have a quantum computer though, right?

Jack: The quantum computers aren't that quantum. They're just really strong computers.

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: There's a computer that runs more computations rather than be able to generate entire realities inside of it.

Cristina: Oh, that's lame.

Jack: Doesn't sound quantum. It just sounds like a really good computer.

Cristina: With time machines.

Jack: No, no, no. No time machines.

Cristina: What about their pyramids? They got pyramids over there.

Jack: They do have pyramids. Just crappy pyramids.

Cristina: No laser technology.

Jack: Just crappy dirt pyramids.

Cristina: What? Yeah.

Jack: Nothing over there does anything that's so boring. Yeah, they just got ruins and s*** everywhere. There's a bunch of places that are just abandoned and left behind and deserted. Apparently the Mayans died off over there.

Cristina: They got Trashzilla. Was that ever a problem over there?

Jack: What, trash zilla?

Cristina: Yeah. When we needed to solve the pollution problem and we made a monster by mistake.

Jack: Wasn't it Poopzilla?

Cristina: Poopzilla? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Jack: I mean, no, we did that over here. Why would that be over there?

Cristina: I don't know. Someone. I'm assuming there's a version of us doing things over there.

Jack: Oh, my God. There's a version of us over there. I'm pretty sure.

Cristina: Yeah. There has to be.

Jack: That's crazy, right? He's just wandering, confused over there. People always hearing about how he's on this show, that he has no f******.

Cristina: Clue exists the other you.

Jack: Yeah. This is fun. And actually fascinating detail.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Cloning isn't real over there. That's just the original.

Cristina: Whoa. The original you?

Jack: The original me. Well, that version or you.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's not you.

Jack: That's not me.

Cristina: That's not you.

Jack: That's not me.

Jack: But also, I'm technically not me.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: So, yeah, whatever. But, yeah, no, that's f****** weird.

Cristina: There is a you over there.

Jack: It has to be you over there, too.

Cristina: Yes. And people over there think the other us are doing a podcast.

Jack: Yes. And probably annoying these poor people.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're probably bothering the s*** out of these people all the time. Hey, I love your show. And they're like, what the are you. I get this every day. And I don't know who the h*** you are or what the f*** you're talking about.

Cristina: Whoa. All these poor version of us.

Jack: Yeah. That's crazy.

Cristina: Yes. But that is sad about the birds.

Jack: Yeah, that's kind of weird. Birds are a real thing over there, and they don't know where the birds come from. We can try to steal some birds and breed them over here. Maybe have real birds.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Courtesy of the Illuminati.

Cristina: Or maybe turn some of those birds into dinosaurs. If they really do come from dinosaurs.

Jack: They have dinosaur genes. We have the technology.

Cristina: We have the technology.

Jack: We have the tech. We could just take some birds and recreate whatever dinosaur they came from.

Cristina: Yes. Real life. Jurassic Park.

Jack: Oh, yes.

Cristina: Wait, did we have that before? We haven't had that yet.

Jack: No, no, no. We have zombies.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Zombie Park. I don't know how the f***. Zombies are not a thing over there. It doesn't make sense. They have all the parts, too. Like, rabies is still real over there. Yeah, Cordyceps are real over there. Being braindead is a thing over there. Having your higher functions be shattered and keeping your low, all of that is a thing of. I don't know how. F***. They Got no zombies.

Cristina: But Jesus is a real thing over there, right? He has to be real.

Jack: Well, no, he falls under speculation as well.

Cristina: And him being a vampire, that's gotta be popular.

Jack: Well, they don't have vampires.

Cristina: Oh, yes. They don't have vampires. Yes, yes.

Jack: They have nothing that isn't human or animal. Ah, there's nothing else.

Cristina: There's nothing else. There's nothing else.

Jack: Like factually, at least. You can't factually prove anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If there is a God. Wow. Are they elusive. We have teams out there just checking. S***.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They don't know if there's such a thing as they. People theorize. Everything is a. Everything is a theory.

Cristina: Everything is a theory. That's so ridiculous.

Jack: Everything is a theory.

Cristina: Wow. It's so strange how different they are from us.

Jack: Yeah, it really is. It's a fascinating, complicated thing. There's no way to. For us to find out because we didn't really take the time. But we know that at least Reptilian. There's other creatures in universe too. I mean, we can't. We can't check records or anything because there's no Earth left. Because Planet X destroyed the f*** out of that.

Cristina: Actually, the lizards were going over there and coming back and stuff.

Jack: Yes, we know they come from that side.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Like there's something other than. Or. Well, yeah, something other than human. Even if there's no longer any humans over there. Yeah, but actually, we don't even have a way over there anymore. No, because the exit to the portal is destroyed.

Cristina: Well, we brought back Mars.

Jack: Yeah, because Planet X destroyed Earth.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: And the inside of that Earth also had the other side of the portal that's inside of our Earth.

Cristina: Yeah, so it probably just leads into space now.

Jack: No, there's no exit. The exit was destroyed.

Cristina: Exit was destroyed.

Jack: Okay, so it just doesn't go anywhere. It's not a portal. It's just a machine that doesn't function.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. So we know that had other things. I don't know why Universe 3 has nothing. It's weird. It's legitimately odd.

Cristina: It's like that cartoon that we were talking about before. Not cartoon, anime. That we were trying to figure out how it fits with everything else. True. Full Metal Alchemist.

Jack: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Where one has magic and one has technology.

Jack: Yes, yes. What's actually. And also, I just remembered that the Reptilians are actually from Mars. They are from Mars.

Cristina: Our Mars are their. Mars.

Jack: They're Mars.

Cristina: I mean, two. Yeah. Okay.

Jack: They're Mars. They're from their Mars.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because they come from universe, too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so that's a good example of how, even if it's a different universe, there are similarities. Over here, we had the cockroach people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: On Mars.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Over there, they had the Reptilians on Mars.

Cristina: Okay, but so then, should there be something on Universe 3, Mars, or there's nothing in there?

Jack: Well, we don't know.

Cristina: We don't know.

Jack: Oh, we need to send. Not just a team over there, but we need to send them with rocket technology to get to that Mars.

Cristina: Yes. There has to be something there.

Jack: They have never gone to Mars. That's something they're now achieving. They don't have interstellar travel as far as the humans on that planet know. They've only traveled as far as their f****** moon.

Cristina: Their moon is a spaceship, though.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Well, actually, I don't know. I mean, the answer to every question you'll ever have is don't know. They don't know anything.

Cristina: Oh, yes. They don't know anything.

Jack: The answer to everything. It doesn't matter what your question is.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't f****** know. They don't know.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: If you have a thought.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you're gonna say it. The answer is they don't know. They don't know. They have no clue.

Cristina: That's shocking.

Jack: Yeah. Everything is a theory. Do they Theory? Is it theory? All of the theory. It's all theory. They don't know crap about anything.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They're so different. I don't know.

Jack: They're so different. It's really, really weird. So they're actually trying to get to Mars actively? Like, haven't you figured out a warp drive yet? The f*** are you talking about? How have you not been. The Mars how? I don't know. They have an Elon Musk, and he's still doing all the Elon Musk things, except he hasn't gotten there, colonized Mars and established an interstellar system yet. He's way slower over there.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. By 21. Elon Musk over here had already established everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right now we're just talking about how overpowered neural link is and the features that are gonna. We're not talking about. Well, how are we gonna put. No. You know. Across the galaxy, travel is complicated. Across the universe, travel is complicated. The next star, we could hit that s*** in a couple of minutes.

Cristina: Yeah, man. So their technology. Whoa. Their technology isn't out of his fence.

Jack: No. Their technology is really outdated. And for whatever reason, there's just no. Humans are the highest life form. Humans are the highest life form.

Cristina: Ah. That's probably why they're behind, right?

Jack: That's probably why they're behind.

Cristina: Well, because we had so much help. So much help to get as far as we have. Like, they.

Jack: Oh, my God. You know, they haven't fixed the abortion problem.

Cristina: They just need to listen to our episode.

Jack: They have.

Cristina: Oh, yes, they have. They should have. We have the solution. It works. We're fine over here with our superhumans.

Jack: Yeah, subhumans.

Cristina: Subhumans. They're pretty super. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. But no, they're so garbage. It's fine. Yeah, they're obedient garbage. It's cool. And that's all that matters. But, yeah. So that's. That's the crazy reveal for you guys. Apparently, we don't exist in the same universe as you.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: That's weird.

Cristina: That is weird.

Jack: We're talking to the. See, I'm talking to you about how astounding it is, but to them, it's just f****** normal. It's just everything I've just said. It's like, duh. You guys are idiots.

Cristina: So their China isn't working with America to make subhumans yet?

Jack: Nope, nope, nope. Never happened. Nope. Wow, that's crazy, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The queen is way underpowered over there. Elon Musk is way underpowered over there.

Cristina: Whoa. They don't have chimeras either. Then that has to be not real, too, right?

Jack: Chimeras are not real. Well, there's no way to know.

Cristina: Oh, there's. Of course. Because. Yeah.

Jack: No.

Cristina: No answers. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. No matter what.

Cristina: There's no way to know.

Jack: You don't know.

Cristina: Whoa. What a weird. How do you live in that type of life? Like, it's so weird. You don't know nothing.

Jack: Dan. Yo. For real. No. The craziest part is they're okay with not questioning things.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. So over here, we have people who trap themselves in sort of echo chambers of their own thoughts and surround themselves by people who are equal.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But then we have people like us, whose entire purpose is to break that consistency. Over there. That's not a thing. They're just okay with trapping each other in each other's bubbles. And, like. Well, I only surround myself with I will stop being your friend if you have a different belief. That's just a thing that happens over there.

Cristina: But there's nothing like this over there. Well, we're over there, so we're helping. Hopefully, at least in that way, opening their minds.

Jack: But we've been talking they think we're fake crap. We've been talking only about our f****** world.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Still, hopefully some of it is useful, even if it's all nonsense.

Jack: Yeah. They should at least think of it as like a fiction that's informative. Right. At least there's some perspective. But no, because they think it's fiction, it's immediately tossed out. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignorance is God over there.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Like, that's the real God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Factually, ignorance is omniscient over there.

Cristina: That is so crazy. That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah, they're all idiots. Everybody. Every f****** one hearing this exists in a. I don't know if actually. Fair enough. I don't know if the people listening to this, but the world they come from.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Is based on ignorance.

Cristina: That's why you gotta tell everyone you know about our show.

Jack: Yeah. It's kind of the point of this episode, specifically, like tell more people. Yes, because.

Cristina: Because answers.

Jack: Yeah. We at least perspectives like, look, we're not from there. I get it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I get we're not from there. We're just. What, gonna. You could hear how entertaining our place is as opposed to your garbage.

Cristina: Yeah, we'll give you some of our. Our birds and we'll get some of your birds.

Jack: Give them some robot birds.

Cristina: Yeah, why not? That's a fair trade.

Jack: That's a fair trade, man. That's f****** nuts. That's just a theory over there too. They have lit. You could prove you could just kill a bird, open it and look at it. Yeah, organs. They still not sure if birds are real.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Again? Even the facts are questioned over there.

Cristina: Even the facts are questioned.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Science. You can question science over there. You can question the scientific method after it's been proven over and over and over and over and over by a bunch of different people actively trying to disprove it. They're still like the flat Earthers over there. They don't use any form of science to do anything.

Cristina: What do they do?

Jack: Nothing. They just question it. And people end up believing the questions.

Cristina: They just question it.

Jack: They just question it. They're like, is it flat, though? And then like, oh, is it flat though? And it's like, yes, we. We proved it was round. With math, we could just f****** lift off the planet. Look down. Yeah, but no, no, that was. That was a faked. Fake footage. Yeah. Even when there is a fact, they will cast. Cast out on it.

Cristina: I guess that's. You could do that with anything. I guess that's why they End up in their situation where no one believes anything.

Jack: Nobody. But, well, they began where nobody believes anything. Nothing has changed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Their entire history has been of people questioning even the facts. Yeah, they question everything without exception. Everything is up in the air. There's nothing that's factual, even though they.

Cristina: Have nothing mythical happening or nothing magical.

Jack: Yeah, they'll still question it. It's happening. I just haven't seen it.

Cristina: Interesting. Wow. Adrenochrome is, though.

Jack: It is not. There's no proof that there's adrenochrome over there.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Everything, all of it, 100% nothing. It doesn't matter what question you have. Like I said, it's all up in the air.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Yeah. So don't ask questions of. Is there? No, they don't know.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If there is, they don't know. No matter what you ask, is there? They don't know. The answer will be they don't know every time. Regardless of.

Cristina: That's crazy, because there's a portal. So I feel like something must have walked over there. Something must have walked from there to here.

Jack: The portal, as far as we know, at least in your backyard, has only been around for around six years, max.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Actually, probably less about five years. How much crap goes into your backyard at random? Demons falling. Yeah. Like, what are the odds?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Was it even in our universe, or at least on this planet before? We have no idea. It just popped up.

Cristina: It just popped up. Yep.

Jack: There's absolutely no greater question now because now we know where it goes. We still have no idea where the f*** it came from.

Cristina: We have no idea.

Jack: Why is there a wormhole from your backyard to Universe three?

Cristina: Yeah. How did the lizard people, I guess, get theirs from 2 to 1 to 2? Like, did theirs just appear out of nowhere? Did they build it? Or was it just something like my, like, mines in my backyard? Like.

Jack: Well, they built theirs.

Cristina: They definitely.

Jack: It's science, it's technology, but mine is just. It's just like a rip, just a portal.

Cristina: It's just natural that happened there.

Jack: We think it's natural. That portal to us is like everything in universe three. All we got are theories.

Cristina: Yeah, man. Man. And where would we find the answers? I doubt the answers are in universe three.

Jack: Yeah, they're not. But I don't know what we could do to test out the portal. Right.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because we can either go through the portal, and the portal looks like it enters from every direction, so you can walk around the portal to the other side, and it's still the way into the portal.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's not like you walk around and well, this side is blank. There's no. It's just a 3D portal. It's like a black hole. The entrances, every side.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like what the f*** can we do? Because we walk in, we just walk out on that side. So there's nothing we could do to test it, at least coming in contact with it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's no scan we could do that wouldn't just read the other side.

Cristina: So there's gotta be something else, something. I don't know. Could we make a portal? We can. Or at least the lizard people can make a portal.

Jack: Well, here's an interesting idea, right? This is a theory of mine. Did the portal show up before or after we destroyed Earth and Universe Two?

Jack: I don't remember the order of events, that's true.

Cristina: But also have another question of whether it happened. Because if it. If it came after that, or say it came before that, did it at least. What about when you were messing? Not you, but version of you was messing with time?

Jack: God d***. We some. It's our fault. Isn't that that portal? Because it doesn't matter at this point if it's because of the time machine. It doesn't matter if it happened before or after, because it's a product of f****** with time. Yeah, but on the flip side, this doesn't. It can't be. It can't be. It couldn't be the time machine. Because the time machine is focused entirely on this timeline. Everything took place here, moved forward and back here.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which means if it's something we did, it had to be destroying Earth 2.

Cristina: Unless it was there before that. I feel like it was.

Jack: If it was, then it could even.

Cristina: Have been at the same moment. It could have been right before destroying. Like it could have.

Jack: Well, no, no, no. Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me very carefully. It is completely possible that it is a result of that. But because we ripped through space time, that happens to be one thing. The portal showed up in the past. So the portal shows up before the event that caused the portal to show up. But it's because space and time are tied.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So we tore time. I mean, we tore space. Yes, by destroying a portal that was linked in two different points in space. Yeah, but as a result, we also have to break the time associated with that. And where did the portal show up? On the same planet that had an already existing portal.

Cristina: Yes. So it might have been. Whoa.

Jack: And the portal, the. The potential of that portal that now doesn't go anywhere. Caused a time space or space time rip that sends us from universe one to three instead of universe one to two. That is my theory.

Cristina: That's a good theory. Then we should not mess with three. Even if we need their moon, we.

Jack: Shouldn'T do that because we don't know what other problems we might cause.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: At least with the time machine, we're only affecting our time.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And we can kind of measure that. You go back in time and you alter something, a domino effect happens. We can kind of counteract things. In fact, that was the original use of it to manage a future.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we understand how the time machine works. Clearly. If this is the way this happened, I mean, obviously we have no idea how most of. Like, we're still torturing a bunch of them up there just to get more information about their tech. But their tech isn't even the best tech because we're still assuming that the Cat People aren't using magic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that that's just hyper advanced technology. That looks like magic.

Cristina: Mm. Definitely. We gotta figure that out. But we still have to get to where. Where are they at?

Jack: They're in the Great Void.

Cristina: The Great Void.

Jack: I mean, we already sent people out there. This is a matter of waiting for them to come back.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now they could totally be dead over there too. I don't f****** know. Well, no. Well, yeah, they don't come in like within a year or something. Whatever. Yeah, but that's what they're there for, right? Expendable garbage. Yeah. So the best result of that would be we successfully capture some of them and then they might have a better grasp on space, time and temporal problems.

Cristina: The Cat People.

Jack: The Cat People. Their technology is so advanced, they can.

Cristina: Solve some of our problems. Okay.

Jack: Can solve some of these problems. They could maybe at least confirm the cause of the wormhole in your backyard.

Cristina: Yeah. And how we can get our messages.

Jack: To our own people because the distortion that that's causing is so massive. That's crazy.

Cristina: That is crazy.

Jack: So all our listeners are from Universe 3 and have been from Universe 3 this entire time, so. Hi, guys. We thought you were here.

Cristina: Boring people.

Jack: Yeah, their f****** universe is so boring. Then again, the flip side is over here, everything is tangible. Over there, they have the most interesting thing, which is everything is in their head. They can imagine anything and doesn't have to be real because everything is imaginary.

Cristina: Everything is imaginary.

Jack: So you can talk about anything under any scope, under any degree, because it's all speculation.

Cristina: That's so cool. You know, What? This reminds me of South Park. I don't know. Just the kids have this weird. Everything is like that too, in that town. Like it's our imagination. But then our world is like when the imagination world came into. Into the real life.

Jack: Yes, that's us. Yes. 100%. 100%. That's exactly what it is. When Imagination Land was open to the public.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: Yeah. Interesting. That's actually really cool. You're totally right. I wonder if they got south park over there.

Cristina: They have to have south park over there. Whoa.

Jack: What if they don't? I'd be crazy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then what the f*** do they have?

Cristina: Hmm?

Jack: North Park.

Cristina: The f***? Whoa.

Jack: North Drive.

Cristina: North Drive?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's the new.

Jack: It's the opposite of South Park. It's North Drive. They probably got like, North Drive.

Cristina: Well, I'm sure at least some things are the same. They have to South Park. They got Supernatural, right?

Jack: They got homies, dude.

Cristina: Homie, dude.

Jack: Yeah. As opposed to Family Guy. They just got homies dude. Because he's not about family. He's about the homies. And he's also not a guy. He's the dude. Homies, dude. Homies, man.

Cristina: Homies, man.

Jack: Oh, that sounds cooler. Homies, man.

Cristina: Kind of gay.

Jack: There's a little bit of gay going on there.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. No, let's hope that they have Family Guy. I don't know what would be American Dad, Afghanistan Mom.

Jack: Can you imagine? That's probably. Man, that's crazy.

Cristina: Imagining what they're saying.

Jack: Afghanistan Mom. Their media has to be weird. And then they also have interlaced with their media. Us. Our media. Yeah, they're just getting signals from us because f****** giant temporal ripper. What a f*** is causing sending our s*** out there?

Cristina: So it's possible they got south park, even if it's from us.

Jack: Holy s***. Holy s***. You're right. Yeah, you're right. We have south park and everything we broadcast lands on them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Holy s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They have to have south park and they have to have Family Guy.

Cristina: They have to. Yeah.

Jack: Oh, s***, that's really cool. But then they also have their version of the things. So they must simultaneously have south park and have North Drive.

Cristina: North Drive. Yes. Yep.

Jack: Okay. That being said, you know, funny jokes and everything aside, I wonder if over there, the driveway you drive on and the parkway is where you park. Like, do they go home onto the parkway and leave the car there and walk inside their house? And then when they're driving on the street and they're like, oh, I gotta go faster. They Hop on the driveway where you can do 60 miles per hour, you know?

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: That, like. Is that our weird thing? Yeah. Is that our weird thing? And they're like, what you'd expect would be normal.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because what the f*** is the explanation of our f****** glitch over here with that one?

Cristina: Wait, which one is ours called. Is that the way we're calling it? Or that's the way you're thinking they're calling it?

Jack: No, I'm thinking that they drive on the driveway and they park on the parkway.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because we, for whatever f****** reason, park on the driveway and drive on the parkway.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So I'm thinking maybe that's one of those things that makes sense over there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Doesn't over here.

Jack: Who knows?

Cristina: Who knows?

Jack: The potentials are infinite. This is just fascinating to know. There's an entire another universe that is so.

Cristina: Yeah, man. Let's contact ourselves.

Jack: No, that's probably a problem.

Cristina: That's probably a problem. Why?

Jack: Why would we contact ourselves?

Cristina: I don't know. For the fun of it.

Jack: How would we even contact ourselves?

Cristina: We can go through the portal, Right?

Jack: So we get over there and then.

Cristina: I don't know. I don't know.

Jack: We'll find out without the Illuminati being a thing over there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there being no need to broadcast the news that's taking place. That's just the guy. Which means there's nothing significant about him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which means he's impossible to find.

Cristina: But he needs to know that people are talking about him. As the host of this show, he should know about this show so he would not be confused.

Jack: That that would mean he has to be listening to news podcasts over there. He has to be the type of guy who's into news podcasts over there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Podcasts are not a popular medium over there either. Oh, it's not like over here that the Globe gets it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Over there, it's like, I don't know, f****** kids or some s*** are listening.

Cristina: What? Kids are listening to us?

Jack: Yeah. Chances are a lot of kids are listening to us.

Cristina: That's very confusing.

Jack: Yeah. And also highly inappropriate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But it's likely, very likely happening. Like, maybe half of everybody listening is a kid. Half could be. I have no idea.

Cristina: And we're telling these kids to talk to strangers.

Jack: Yes. They're the cherry on top of all of these things, which is going to open a new possibility if we so feel inclined to this show, because they're already getting our news, which kind of means f****** nothing to them. I guess we did establish the subhumans that were over there. Checking and doing things. Took enough technology and with the technology that already exists to have a single TV on our side, be able to catch the broadcast from their TVs. Any signal, any radio signal they send for their. And actual radio stations and their Internet. So you have access to their media to see what's happening over there. So we can check up on their world and perhaps in the future even talk about it. New element to the show.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Being able to talk about worldwide, there's.

Cristina: No creatures and that's not gonna be fun.

Jack: But, you know, it's their world.

Cristina: I guess we can compare and contrast what's going on over here to what's going on over there.

Jack: That's kind of badass. Yes. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

Cristina: Like the day when Trump fights Biden. What's gonna be happening over there?

Jack: That's an interesting question. That's really interesting. But on the flip side, there's a added benefit to this screen that we don't have over here.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Because over here people are actual people. There's nothing we could do. But over there, people are not people who are over here, we can quantify them into their potential energy. So our TV can watch anybody we choose. And in theory, if we could find out what the f*** the name of the person we're talking about is in the case that you want to know what we are doing, if they share our names, then we can find out what the f*** they're doing.

Cristina: Oh, we can spy on ourselves.

Jack: We can spy on ourselves. And there'd be no reason to interact with them.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay. I guess that's a safer choice.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It probably won't work for a non existing organization.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But they're probably doing their own thing.

Cristina: Mm. Okay. Awesome.

Jack: Yeah. Pretty cool, right?

Cristina: Gonna be interesting. What will happen in the future.

Jack: What happened in the future? What things are. So the tables are kind of turned. Right. Because people on our side know the things that are happening and then we talk and share our opinions to them. But you guys have just been hearing something you thought was fiction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And now you might. Again, this is not for sure, but you might get to see us be the learners of what's happening on your end. Rather than being us being the teacher, we might just watch your side and be the students.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Maybe there's something to learn from them.

Jack: There probably is. Just not the things that are interesting over here.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they must. There must be something that makes that place interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. You Just don't know it at the moment.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: Because right now they seem boring, but okay.

Jack: Yeah, it's pretty weird, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's fascinating though.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I am curious to find out. Like, I don't want to interact with the version of me that exists over there, but I'd be curious to see what they do. What they do for a living.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Same thing with you. See what?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The other you does.

Cristina: Just out of curiosity, man.

Jack: Yeah, but it's also not us.

Cristina: I know.

Jack: It's like, who the f*** gives a s***?

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting dilemma. Anyways, look, that. The point here is that. Hi, guys. We didn't know you existed. We thought we were talking to our own people the whole time, so. Yeah. Yeah, you guys are. Now, I say everybody listening is from over there, but that's wrong because we still get our broadcasts. It's just all our broadcasts are sent over there too. We still get all our broadcasts.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that's the reason we had no f****** clue they're listening to us. Yeah, and that's weird.

Cristina: Yeah. Well, they could comment on our podcast of where they're from.

Jack: I think so. I think we land on there again. All the broadcasts happen to land on all their things. So we're on their Internet and they probably thought we were in their world as a result. Yeah, but like a fiction show.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Meanwhile, no, we put that on our Internet. Something just broke reality. And so you're hearing us right now. Reality's f****** broken.

Cristina: And it's part of my portal, though.

Jack: Your portal is causing some temporal rift that is sending all our waves not only everywhere here, but over there. So that's the gist of it.

Cristina: That is crazy. Although I guess none of them will believe any of this.

Jack: Yeah, pretty much. Until we start talking about their world.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: I mean, no. Cuz they'll still gonna think that this portion was fiction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, I guess there's no real way to fix that issue.

Cristina: No, but whatever.

Jack: They'll be more involved once it's about things that are happening to them. Right.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But then some of the things do happen over there.

Cristina: Like what?

Jack: Like the Insurrection.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. And Covid is the thing over there.

Jack: Covid is a thing over there. But the toilet paper doesn't actually protect you against it. That's weird. Yeah, That's a weird one, huh?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Toilet paper has no protection to Covid over there.

Cristina: Okay. What?

Jack: They did steal all the toilet paper, though.

Cristina: Why did they Steal all the old toilet paper. It wasn't protected, though.

Jack: Wait for it, wait for it. Wait for it. They don't know. It's all speculation.

Cristina: To all their problems.

Jack: Yes. Is they don't know. They don't know the solution to everything is they don't know why, they don't know who, they don't know where, they don't know when, they don't know.

Cristina: But they stole the toilet paper.

Jack: Yes. Now, here's an interesting point, right? And I believe this might also be happening. The temporal rift is maybe. S***. S***. Okay, fair enough. Maybe the versions of us on that side are somehow connected to the versions of us on this side. And so people racing to get toilet paper over here, because it protects against Covid, somehow triggered people on that side to go. Because they have the same thought, or not the same thought. Some feeling told them, yeah, to go steal all the toilet paper. And they did. Except it doesn't protect them against anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Over here, if you have toilet paper, you can't catch COVID Whoa. So there might be some actual effect that. Again, we need the cat people. We need somebody with technology so advanced, maybe they can figure it out. If they can't figure it out, I have no clue what to do.

Cristina: But that sound. That is so interesting because how many things are like that?

Jack: How many things are like that? Exactly. Another thing would be if we have all these mythical creatures on our end. But they are mythological, as in narratives told. And then we can go find them based on the myth or focus around. But over there, their myth, as in not true. Yeah, Maybe their origin story comes from this side. But the problem is those things have been around through all of history, even for them. Except it's not real over there. So I guess that's wrong. I was thinking, like, maybe our thoughts on these creatures and having seen them triggered them to think and have the feeling all this. But the portal's only been around for about five years.

Cristina: Yeah, but somehow they. There's still. There might be some connection between our two.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Worlds.

Jack: Yes. Well, I'm thinking. Well, maybe not.

Cristina: It's their imagination. It is the imagination thing. Somehow it's related.

Jack: Yes, but the question is, is that related? Or does this start at the portal?

Cristina: Does it start.

Jack: That's the question. Is the wormhole in your backyard the cause? If so. If so, then it has to be connected to the hole being formed, to the portal being formed, to the wormhole being there. And that started about five years ago. Now, it is possible that if the destruction of Earth 2 and the wormhole that existed at the center of the Earth affected spacetime throughout reality as a whole. And the portal showed up as a result. Even if it happened, if it happened after the portal showed up, and the portal showed up as a result of an event that took place in the future, which is a whole f****** can of worms on its own.

Cristina: Yes, what a mess.

Jack: Yeah, what a f****** mess. But whatever.

Cristina: Time travel.

Jack: Yeah, time travel is f*****. It is what it is. But the real problem would be that if this event could affect the past. Has this event always been happening and always been affecting the past?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: And as a result, yes. In fact, every thought we've had has influenced people over there. Thus even our mythological creatures that are real over here.

Cristina: It's just imaginary creatures over there that.

Jack: They've only had those thoughts because we've seen them. And so we are connected.

Cristina: We are connected, man. Yes.

Jack: Because the toilet paper thing is weird.

Cristina: It is weird.

Jack: They just took it for no reason. It's not even a story. It's a fact.

Cristina: All the things we know here is imaginary over there.

Jack: Yes, they've mentioned all of them. There's no reason they would have all exactly the same things.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So they must be getting it from somewhere that's interesting. Something for us to dissect in the future.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, man. I'm sure the portal, the origin of this portal is really what's important, right?

Jack: Yes, that's really what we need to focus on. But anyways, so. Yeah. Hi, guys. You guys. Hi. You good? You dudes, people, Ladies, gentlemen, whatever the f*** you guys refer to yourself over there. Do you guys have a gender problem out there too? Whatever. Anyways, I know you got. If you don't. That's just the funniest s*** that they have been laughing at us forever.

Cristina: The gender problem.

Jack: The gender problem. If they don't have the gender problem over there, they are dying thinking this is some ridiculous made up bullshit. No s*** people. We actually have people going by all sorts of s***, including Zed and Demon. That's. And God, this is. All of that is real. This is all that's really, really happening over here. And it might sound. I know it sounds ridiculous and like a fiction that this would be something that happens in the. You know, it's happening.

Cristina: It's happening here at least.

Jack: It's happening here at least. And that's crazy.

Cristina: Mm. So, yeah, we'll see if we. With this tv. We get this TV to see over there. We'll see.

Jack: We're gonna tune in heavily.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And see what's going on.

Cristina: Yeah. Because we have things in common for sure.

Jack: Yes. And we do have an access point. It is a matter of we. Their investigations will happen. We'll figure it out. Maybe you guys will see us one day. Live shows in Universe three. How weird.

Cristina: That makes more sense. No.

Jack: Yeah, that's f****** weird. Anyways, so, yeah, you guys enjoyed what you heard here, and you want to learn more about what's happening in our universe, you can go check all those things out at the official website. Greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast, which astounds me that you guys have all exactly the same things.

Cristina: That is so crazy.

Jack: Do they not know where Apple Podcasts comes from? And they say, oh, it's a website. We just get our podcast from the website. But it's like, all over here. And they don't have that over there.

Cristina: They have to have that over there.

Jack: Well, they have it because we're sending it over there.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. I don't know.

Jack: There's nobody over there who did it. But who the f*** knows a billionaire.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Who just knows a billionaire? So it's like, well, that billionaire who we hear about, because they get all our media, so even when we're reporting on a billionaire, they think that's over there.

Cristina: Well, we know they have the same Elon Musk. Sort of.

Jack: Yes, but they don't know they're Elon Musk the way we do. Yeah, that's just a person on their screen. But, like, do they have a Jeff Bezos or are they looking at ours?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah.

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Cristina: Let us know what's happening over there, what we got right and what we got wrong.

Jack: Yeah, like perfect. Perfect.

Cristina: What exactly is different?

Jack: And like, subscribe if you want to be filled in on the crap happening over here, because apparently it's not happening over there.

Cristina: I let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Which has always been important.

Jack: It's always been important. More so after this revelation.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Tell everybody.

Cristina: Tell everyone this shocking news.

Jack: Yeah. Maybe they'll believe it. If not, eventually one day it might be proven, and then you could see us in person. We'll see.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. Or maybe Maybe his God. His God? His father did it with a Titan and made him. I don't know.

Jack: Well, no, there was a thing that made the Titans. There was an omniscient, all present God thing.

Cristina: Big bang theory of their own.

Jack: This is interesting. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So Zeus is like way down the totem pole when it comes to God. Like, he is nowhere near omniscient. No, he is very specifically a demigod. He's the God of a God of.

Cristina: A God, but many gods, I guess.

Jack: Yes, I think Jehovah and Zeus are equal.

Cristina: What's your proof?

Jack: Not only that, I would argue that Jehovah, if not related to Zeus, is.

Cristina: Zeus just as he took a new name.

Jack: It could be.

Cristina: Or it's translated different from other people. Like, is it the same people?

Jack: Crazy thought. Let's assume the Old Testament is not the first book, not a translation, that it's literally not the first part, and through translation we landed at Jehovah.

Cristina: Mm. But then whatever the first part is just isn't around anymore.

Jack: I guess we just consider it some whole other s***. But maybe there's a literal line connecting Old Testament and Greek scripture.

Cristina: Probably.

Jack: That'd be fascinating because they're either the same thing or brothers. Because alternatively, we could say that they are the same person, but not literally the same person. Rather, we're calling two different people the same thing, saying Old Testament and New Testament, when in reality Old Testament wasn't the Jehovah we know from the New Testament. It was Zeus then.

Cristina: Zeus, huh? But the thing is, like, why did he tell them? I guess that he made all the everything after his parents, like his parents made him. Then he erased all that so that he could say he made it all.

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: No, I don't know. I guess that could be. Who knows how they work? They're angry people.

Jack: Yeah. Who knows how they function? Who knows how any of this works out?

Cristina: Yeah, I wish I knew more of their stories. Like there must be things that connect, but we don't know. We don't know any of those stories.

Jack: Yeah, it's very fascinating stuff. Lost Creek gods.

Cristina: Yeah. If we knew more about the archangels, that would be so helpful though.

Jack: Yeah, there's just very little information on them. There's pretty much nothing to draw from relative to all that stuff. It would require a lot of research to get to the bottom of how they connect from one to the other.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Wubba dubba dub. Dubba dub.

Cristina: Good morning. Good night. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas. Produced by Lynn Taylor and Published by Great dots.info Art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister, with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 156: 2021 Apocalypse Review

New Year, new us. The clone duo discuss major events from 2021 and review the year as a whole, from tragedies, mass shootings, political disputes and an ever evolving virus to advancements in science and space exploration. Additionally, the show is officially introducing itself as ‘Rambling’ to differentiate itself from ‘Just Conversation’ where guests are brought on to have a discussion.

Rambling 156: 2021 Apocalypse Review

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed:

  • Bill Nye: The Extinction Entity
  • The End is Bill Nye
  • January 6th Insurrection
  • WallStreetBets vs Wall Street
  • Cold Bernie
  • Biden Hates Blacks
  • Texas Winter Storm
  • Super Straight
  • Vaccine Rollout
  • Asian Lives Matter
  • Legalized Marijuana
  • Mass Shootings
  • Volcano
  • Covid Variants
  • Military Withdraw
  • Terrorist Country

Our Links:

Official Website - https://greythoughts.info/podcast

Twitter - https://twitter.com/JustConvoPod

Facebook - https://facebook.com/justconvopod

Instagram -https://instagram.com/justconvopod


+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to Rambling, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yeah. So be sure to find somebody and tell them, hey, something happened to Just Conversation Podcast's name. And you better come over here and listen to this show and find out.

Cristina: Find out why.

Jack: Find out why or what? Really?

Cristina: What's really. We're going to explain. Give details on why.

Jack: Sure. Yeah. The name changed because it's been Rambling for a while now, and we're just officializing it by announcing it that way on the show.

Cristina: There you go. We shall save the for end the ending.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Why? I don't know. It should have been a big thing.

Jack: Nah, man. But yeah, so now we'll be introducing the show as Rambling, so that Just Conversation is when we have guests exclusively. Now officially creating the rift between these two shows will also not have any conversation between Chrissy and I here at the beginning of those or the end of those episodes. It's just gonna be the conversation with whatever guest we have. Y. Oh, yeah.

Cristina: With more guests.

Jack: The first guest will be Dave.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Hopefully. Hopefully the first guest of season six.

Cristina: Whoever's the guest, I'm sure there will be awesome.

Jack: Yeah, whoever's a guest. I hope that we can get Dave from his busy as life, but hopefully can cut off a moment and we can chill and have some crazy conversation. Have him introduce. Yes. And now we're going by Rambling, which is essentially what they've already been called. But we haven't been creating the division within the show, only within the titles outside. So if you always see, you know, we're on Rambling, whatever number this is. What, 1:56.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Something like this. 156 or 156.

Cristina: We're halfway to 200.

Jack: Yeah, we. We put in work. We're out here. We're part of a pretty early wave, too.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: Like two years after we started podcasting, like, the wave of Infinite podcasts just showed up.

Cristina: Oh, you can't say that. They'll think we're hipsters.

Jack: I mean, they can prove this. They can just look at our numbers and be like, oh, they started back then.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, we did. Like 2017 or something.

Cristina: Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah.

Jack: We've been out here for a bit. For a minute.

Cristina: Yes. Happy New Year's, people.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's also important to know, I guess. Even though you should already know.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You should know. It is the new Year.

Jack: The new year. Happy New Year.

Cristina: Tomorrow will be old. Like, how long is it new for?

Jack: Right. It's new for a day before it's the same year again.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Well, today it's a new year. Tomorrow, well, it's the same year was yesterday.

Cristina: Yeah. I guess that's why the first day is the most important.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because it's new. Yeah.

Jack: The New Year's Day. Then there's no more New Year's Day. There's just year.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: It's just a year again.

Cristina: That's all that happens.

Jack: But yeah. So I hope you guys enjoy hearing. It's gonna be weird at the start, I'm sure. Hearing us call it rambling. Yeah, like you've known it's been rambling. You see, the episode you click on, it's already called rambling, but we never say it out loud.

Cristina: Unless they weren't paying attention to what they're clicking on. They're like, oh, this is just conversation. They say that, so it must be fair enough.

Jack: I. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that the guest episodes are also gonna have JCP put before them. So that there's two different things. JCP episode whatever and rambling episode whatever.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So instead of just conversation written all out or just say jcp.

Jack: It's never said just conversation written all out.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Next to an episode.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I'm asking if that's what it said before.

Jack: It's never said anything before.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It was just rambling or it tells me you've never looked at that.

Cristina: I have. I just don't remember.

Jack: It's rambling.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then there's just the number of the episode for the guest. The guest episodes. But now it'll say jcps.

Cristina: Oh, so I had nothing.

Jack: Yeah, I had nothing before. Now it's gonna have JCP ahead of the numbers and then could create a good differentiation.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: Anyways, we just finished another disastrous year.

Cristina: It wasn't as bad as.

Jack: It wasn't. I don't know. It wasn't.

Cristina: It was pretty bad. Well, for the Earth, it was bad.

Jack: There was a bunch of bad for all directions, but at least we're still here. Slowly fading away, but still not slowly fading away.

Cristina: Maybe next year.

Jack: Maybe next year. I'm hopeful. The end is soon. It's. The end is nigh. The end is Bill Nye.

Cristina: The end is new. The end is Bill Nye. That's awesome.

Jack: The end is Bill Nye. He is the Bringer. What? He's the.

Cristina: He's the Antichrist?

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. He's the extinction entity.

Cristina: The instinct. There's an extinction entity?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't remember when we went through the. Was the name of that game, Death Stranding? You remember in Death Stranding?

Cristina: Oh, yes. That thing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. He's the extinction entity. Oh, that's Bill Nye. That's why when people say the end is nigh, they mean the end is Bill Nye. Bill Nye is the Apocalypse entity. There's no such thing.

Cristina: So they've been literal this whole time?

Jack: Yeah. There's no such thing. Antichrist. There is just Bill Nye. Bill Nye.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: There. At the beginning, there was God. And the thing that was. And was Bill Nye.

Cristina: He was God.

Jack: And Bill Nye.

Cristina: He looks that old.

Jack: As supernatural taught us, God came to be with the darkness and death existed either before or after. They're so old, they don't know who came first or who came second. Well, the fourth thing there was Bill Nye.

Cristina: The fourth thing. Wait, is there four things?

Jack: The darkness, God, Death, and Bill Nye.

Cristina: Oh, okay. What about the. Nothing. Oh, that was before that. Any of that.

Jack: Anyway, nothing.

Cristina: So it doesn't matter.

Jack: Might be the only thing that's always been. Yeah, because God popped up, darkness popped up, death popped up. But, like, nothing. Might have just been.

Cristina: And so, okay, then Bill popped up.

Jack: No, Bill didn't. I guess, maybe. I don't know. He popped up when God popped up and death popped up and the darkness popped up. So they're all one thing somehow.

Cristina: They're all one thing.

Jack: Yeah. Bill Nye is part of. Oh, my God, the Four Horsemen, or whatever the. We're talking about now.

Cristina: He's the four.

Jack: I mean, I don't even know. Right? Like, the Four Horsemen include death, but not God. But at the end of the day, like, why.

Cristina: I don't. The Four Horsemen aren't really even with their powers.

Jack: What is it? War, Death, Famine and what?

Cristina: Locust.

Jack: Locus. Oh, my God. Doesn't even make sense, bro. They're basically just plagues.

Cristina: Yes, I'm sure bugs kill.

Jack: It makes sense that the whole point of locust is that they kill. Like, I don't get. It's death and death and death and hunger. Yeah, death and death and death and hunger. Like, what the. No. So death and life as opposites to one another makes sense. If God created life, then death takes it away. That makes sense. If God brought light, then there should be darkness. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If there is something which are all three of them, there should also be nothing that makes sense. Okay, so there's parts here I don't understand. The Four Horsemen. That's some incorrect s***.

Cristina: The correct one is now, I guess, God, his sister.

Jack: God, Darkness. I mean, darkness and Bill Nye.

Cristina: Yes, that sounds right. Those are the Four Horsemen of the.

Jack: Yes. And while death knows when God dies, Bill Nye knows when death ends because the end is nigh.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Yes. This sounds so. Right, Right.

Jack: And somehow this all relates to the fact that this is a, you know, an episode where we're going to recap the year.

Cristina: This is a year we're celebrating that. The year that it hasn't ended. That life has ended.

Jack: Life hasn't ended yet. Bill Nye still hasn't chosen. He's waiting for his moment.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Anyhoo, yeah, this year was pretty epic, monumental, crazy. There was a lot of things that happened here and there, things that took place, things and stuff and things occurred, and here we are now.

Cristina: And, yeah, pretty much all started with our last president. Our last president. The old president. I don't know.

Jack: Year began and we lost the president.

Cristina: No, we didn't. He's still alive. He's got to fight Biden on the White House someday.

Jack: Now, I got a question. Last year is when the president. I mean, I guess it's already next year. So Two years ago, 2020 is when President Trump killed the military guy. That's 2020, right? Like, right off the bat.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Murdered dude.

Cristina: Yeah. And then this year, he started with. I mean, not this year, 2021. He started off the year with the insurrection thing.

Jack: You know what's funny? Everybody for like, the first two weeks of a year is always like, it's still that old year.

Cristina: Still that old year.

Jack: You know, they're like, always confused. They're like, f***. It's that pre. You know, it's 2021, and you make.

Cristina: The mistake when you're writing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened in school a lot.

Cristina: Yeah. So annoying.

Jack: But, yeah. So Insurrection dude decided, hey, people, attack. No, he didn't say that. That's ridiculous. People. Okay, don't get me wrong. Trump followers are jackasses.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They were like, he told us to do it. He didn't tell you to do.

Cristina: But did he want it? Did he want that?

Jack: We don't know what he wanted.

Cristina: We're not kind of asking them to kill Pence. Wasn't he?

Jack: He never said that.

Cristina: What did he say? I don't remember. I remember it sounded like a threat.

Jack: He called him a traitor.

Cristina: Yes. And he said, we're gonna find him. Right, or something.

Jack: Yeah. No, he.

Cristina: He said some threatening things to the vice president.

Jack: He did not say anything threatening. He's so clever that he's like, pence is a traitor and traders must pay and things will be fixed or corrected. And he is part of that problem that we need to correct something along those lines. You know, it's very vague. I am not threatening. I'm saying nothing illegal. Again, people like to pretend Trump is an idiot. They want to ride that train to the end. But he was so smart. You can't convict him for anything.

Cristina: Yes. And there's so many, like, conspiracies that came out of this, of whether he started this or whether the other team. What if the Democrats started this somehow? The antifa. I don't know. Everyone started this. Someone else started this somehow. Russia somehow was involved.

Jack: Yeah, but no 100%. Trump outsmarted everybody. If he wanted this, he did his usual shtick. And he uses words. He's got the best words. He said that.

Cristina: He's got the best words.

Jack: And he does. He does. He says s*** that makes him look stupid, gets him what he wants, and keeps him innocent.

Cristina: And you can't say he asked for it.

Jack: Yeah. It's f****** genius. He does it over and over and over. Nobody learns. He did that with the bill.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That the Democrats got him to sign just because he said he didn't want to. But the Republicans put that on his desk and he did want to sign it, but he wanted the Democrats to make him do it first. Like that.

Cristina: Kind of genius this year, though.

Jack: No, I know. I'm just an example of how consistently he just uses words and gets what he wants. Manipulates everybody around him. He's a genius. So good.

Cristina: But sadly, because of the insurrection, he got kicked out of his favorite platforms.

Jack: And, yeah, now we.

Cristina: Goodbye to Twitter, goodbye to fun. And fun people suck.

Jack: People hate fun. When Trump was around, everything was fun. Politics was fun. It was like a movie.

Cristina: Also around that time, Parlor became a thing, and then after that thing, Parlor disappeared. I think that was also banned with Trump from online.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything kind of went. It wasn't banned. It was just the people who owned it. Servers, I think was Amazon or something.

Cristina: They kicked.

Jack: They were like, you ain't using our service if you're gonna be an insurrectionist or whatever the f*** they think he is. But it's like, we can't arrest him for anything, do anything. If he didn't cite it. He did it in such a clever way that you cannot convict the man. You can't do s*** to him.

Cristina: But what could have the. What could that app have done that or not have done that, right or wrong? Like, why were they kicked off?

Jack: Because that's where it got planned.

Cristina: But was it the app's fault?

Jack: No, but the app welcomes free speech and doesn't correct anybody for saying anything, so people flocked there.

Cristina: It's crazy, because that's like. Facebook was like that all the time. No one. Like, why hasn't Facebook been kicked off of the Internet itself?

Jack: Because Facebook owns its servers.

Cristina: Ah, okay. That's all I'm asking.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Parlor got kicked because they didn't have their own servers. They were on someone else's servers.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: Facebook has its own. Has its own servers. It doesn't need a server to run on. It runs its own servers.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's all, though. How do you think it's housing all the data if it was holding it at somebody else's server? Somebody could just decide to block off its access to data, and it wouldn't be able to sell data to other people. Whoever it's running off of can sell the data. The people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But Facebook couldn't.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's very crazy. First few days of the year.

Jack: Yeah. With the insurrection happening and people losing their minds, everybody going crazy.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then us calling treason or patriots Patriots or treason.

Jack: The argument is that they believe that there was treachery happening in the White House and in the voting, and in return, the Second Amendment says you have a right to bear arms in case of a tyrannical government. So the uprising and the protest, which you have a right to as well. And a freedom of speech, which you have a right to as well. And the freedom to bear arms, which you have right to as well.

Cristina: We can bear arms at the White House, though.

Jack: Technically, we own the White House.

Cristina: But aren't there rules I don't know.

Jack: That we have to agree to? And those people decided not to. And government answers to the people, not the other way around. The people don't answer to the government.

Cristina: The people died, though, that. They. They weren't shot, though.

Jack: They were just, like, trampled and s***.

Cristina: Trampled? Yeah.

Jack: Shot would have been easier, but yeah. So s*** got real.

Cristina: Yes. Whoa.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because of voter fraud. Maybe. Or maybe not.

Jack: Maybe not. Because people had opinions.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And maybe it was treachery that they were responding to, or maybe they were just being manipulated and responding regardless. The White House was stormed. And then the fun began.

Cristina: What was the fun? That wasn't the fun.

Jack: That wasn't the fun. It was exciting.

Cristina: No, that was the fun.

Jack: But the fun began when the war between the rich and the poor, the haves and have nots, took off through digital mediums as Wall street bets took on Wall street and won.

Cristina: Wall street bets? Oh, that's from Reddit. Okay, I see. Yes, that's what they were called.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. WallStreetBets took on Wall street and won. They totally f***** over a s*** ton of people. The squeeze got squoze for some GameStop for some GameStop and just milked milked m************ that the tables flipped on hella people. Some people had to completely cave and sell all their shares and were other.

Cristina: People just made money.

Jack: So much money. People just became rich overnight. Hundreds of thousands of people.

Cristina: That is so crazy.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: From some. What were they called? These? Stonks.

Jack: Stonks.

Cristina: That's what they're called.

Jack: Okay, yeah.

Cristina: Oh my gosh.

Jack: Just a bunch of meme stocks.

Cristina: Oh, yes, that's the right word. Meme stocks, stonks. I don't know, whatever. That was amazing. That was pretty amazing.

Jack: It was pretty amazing. Still going on right now.

Cristina: All right. But they're not doing so well now.

Jack: Not. I mean, not doing so well. What do you mean?

Cristina: Like it's not like what it was.

Jack: Oh, no. You made it sound like they're doing bad.

Cristina: I don't know how they're doing now.

Jack: No, doing pretty good, all things considered. Because they can just shift their attention to something new and screw over whatever's overly shorted. But for the most part, yeah, that was a great victory. It was a one of a kind thing where the little guy totally screwed over the big guy and then the big guy cried so much he wanted laws to legislate the fact that they've didn't like what happened even though they've been doing it the whole time for years.

Cristina: That's amazing.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. We made them ask for the. The holes they were abusing to get patched.

Cristina: It's crazy. That's so unfair though. I feel like they should get even more in trouble for that. I don't know. But that's not how it works.

Jack: That's not how it works. Rich people pay the. The. They lobby hard as f***. They pay the people to make the laws.

Cristina: Yeah. And around that time, Biden became president, if that matters.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And we got that Bernie Mittens meme. I don't know if you remember. It was everywhere. Bernie.

Jack: Oh, yeah. At the inauguration.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because he was just not happy.

Cristina: Yeah. He looks really cold.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bernie's meme.

Cristina: Yes. It was adorable. That's what I remember of the inauguration. The burning, I guess the president being.

Jack: Half dead on stage.

Cristina: Yes. Zombie for president.

Jack: I'm like, amazed. Didn't go up there and just drop the N word back to back. You are my n*****.

Cristina: You were expecting that from Biden.

Jack: Yeah. Biden goes up and it's like, I was voted in by all my n*****. All n***** are equal to whites. I wish, you know, good old. Good old Bernie doing his thing. Slaves were a bad thing, but they had their benefits. It's like, okay, you're losing me here, bro.

Cristina: Are you saying Biden said that?

Jack: Biden. This is conversations by Biden. We need to fix the economy by sending more blacks to jail. Thank you for voting me in, my n*****.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Good times. Good times. The. I don't even understand how he won, dude.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It's like, how is. I don't get it. The problem is people dislike the way Trump behaves more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then they like the fact that he's done more for black people.

Cristina: They don't care. They don't care.

Jack: They don't care. They do not care. While Biden is one of the worst things for black people that has ever happened in politics, like, legislation wise, he has been on some of the darkest bills in all of black history. He's signed his name on to it to allow horrible things to happen.

Cristina: Like, he's done that before. Right. That's past stuff that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: You just pretend that doesn't exist anymore.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. And people are like, well, he's such a good president because he told you that you're just gonna eat that.

Cristina: Yeah. Like when he was comparing poor kids to white kids. Was it?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What was the. Oh, my God.

Jack: All people have the same opportunities. Poor kids, white kids.

Cristina: Ah, okay. Yeah. That's not racist at all.

Jack: You're either poor or you're white. The bubble he lives in. You're either poor or you're white. But yeah, no, he's totally racist. He is responsible for things similar to the Stop in frisk thing that's solely targeted towards black people. He's also one of the leading causes for why blacks are incarcerated. So much more like so many. Same thing with Kamala Harris. She's also responsible for arresting a lot of that. Yeah, all those laws that arrested hella blacks. But hey, they said they're Democratic, so you got to site with a team regardless of what their background is. And because Trump is a Republican and you don't like his attitude, even if he signs, it's 100% because of that. That helps colored people.

Cristina: Who cares what he's done? No one cares. No one knows anything. They can't name you one thing he's done except for that wall that he couldn't stop talking about. Besides that, no one can name anything that he's done.

Jack: Yeah, because nobody looks up anything. They just whatever CNN told me, and I am a CNN follower, therefore that must be reality. As for the Fox people, same thing. Nobody is in any kind of middle ground where they get information from all sides. People are ridiculous. But yeah. So Bernie became president right after Bernie.

Cristina: No, he didn't become president.

Jack: Bernie. Can you imagine? Bernie became president. No. Biden became president.

Cristina: Yeah. Also spinach. They got spinach to send emails.

Jack: What the h***?

Cristina: Spinach, the vegetable. It could send emails. Now how it uses nanotubes from the leaves to emit signals and they're able to pick it up with infrared cameras and it sends back to the science labs.

Jack: What? That's so unimpactful in all our lives.

Cristina: It's going to help detect explosive materials in the soil. That's what it's for at the moment, but they hope in the future it'll help with climate. To fight climate change. So there you go.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Not helpful now, but it will be.

Jack: It's useless as of now, at this.

Cristina: Moment, yes, but it will help.

Jack: Fantastic.

Cristina: And now you know that. That's a thing. That's a cool thing. That's a cool thing. One awesome thing. But then, like, then winter came and it was really horrible.

Jack: Well, all this is happening during winter, actually.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. This is all still in winter.

Jack: Yes, this is all still winter. We're balls deep in winter now. And then for the first time, Texas got a hold of a nice little chilly, frosty ice snowstorm that came through and they just. I wasn't ready. Like Kevin Hart. I wasn't ready. Oh, yeah, they weren't.

Cristina: They weren't. That was a crazy storm, though. It was. What was it? 40 states were under winter warning during that weekend or Whatever. When that happened.

Jack: Yeah, well, this happened while still the fires were burning crazy hard in Texas. In California.

Cristina: In California. Oh, my.

Jack: Yeah, because it was like the random wind came through right at that point.

Cristina: Everywhere else.

Jack: Yeah, it was like got hot as f*** suddenly. And then a crazy cold front covered everything. It was through most of the country. Yeah, most of country had that sheet. But ironically, wasn't nowhere anywhere near us. Yeah, it was just covering everywhere in the middle and west.

Cristina: But the storm didn't hit this area, did it? I don't know. I thought that's what you're saying.

Jack: No, I'm saying it didn't.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I'm saying it started in the middle and went all the way west. Oh, and we are far east. You're the eastest you get in this country. And then came around super straight. The beautiful movement of, I guess, guys creating the line between the he's who are into some variants of gender and the he's who are not into any variance in gender. Super straight being the ones who are into no variance of gender.

Cristina: No variants.

Jack: Yeah, okay.

Cristina: Yeah, because he. The. Well, the original person was. The original person was defending himself because people called him homophobic or transphobic. Transphobic. Because he wouldn't date trans people because he said he's straight and they're like, would you date a trans. I don't know, what's the girl? Boy, whatever.

Jack: Right. Trans person.

Cristina: Trans person. And he said no. And they were calling him homophobic for.

Jack: That, which is f****** ridiculous. You're not homophobic just because you wouldn't date a trans person. People have preferences. Why the f*** can't a f****** straight white guy.

Cristina: Yeah. So he made super straight to feel, I guess, more comfortable and saying like, hey, I'm not transphobic. I just not into that.

Jack: Which resulted in a crap ton of people deciding that they are also super straight.

Cristina: Yes, there's. I wonder how much people are now super straight.

Jack: I mean, I pretty sure a bunch of people were super straight to begin with, but they didn't have the word and now they have the word. So they've always been super straight. It's not that they are super straight now, but it's like before the word lesbian, a chick who liked chicks was still a lesbian.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: She just didn't know she was a lesbian because the word didn't exist. So I'm pretty sure there were a bunch of people who were super straight to begin with.

Cristina: Yeah. And now they have flags and memes and hashtags and stuff.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Think they'll have A parade.

Jack: That'd be hilarious. But here's the thing. A lot of people like to compare super Straight to All Lives Matter, and that is incorrect, because All Lives Matter misses the point, while super Straight does not. Super straight is a actually pretty logical idea. It's a person putting into detail what their preference of a gender is.

Cristina: Yeah, because everyone else pretty much gets to do that.

Jack: Exactly. So this makes perfect sense. Anybody who has a problem with super straight is actually a hypocrite. There are some people who do it mockingly.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just to cover up their homophobia and their transphobia.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But there are people who are actually super straight, and you don't get to pick and choose who's the one who's being transphobic and who's the one who's not.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And pretending you have the right to do that kind of makes you the bad guy. While with All Lives Matter, it's just a bunch of jackasses who don't realize that nobody said All Lives don't Matter. We're just trying to remind you that within the All Is Included Black, which people seem to forget.

Cristina: Yes. This is a whole different situation.

Jack: It's a whole different situation. People consistently miss the point for Black Lives Matter. All Lives Matter. Well, yes. We're not saying that that's not the case. We're saying that within the all is black included. And you seem to forget that part.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: But the super straight. No, that's on point. That's not a flawed idea. That makes perfect sense. It's a sexual identity like the rest of them.

Cristina: Mm. And there are so many.

Jack: There are so many. And there's gonna be more. I mean, there's demons now.

Cristina: That's not the same. Unless you're saying people are gonna have a word for being attracted to people.

Jack: Who identify as demons.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. That's gonna be interesting.

Jack: Perhaps. Then we start getting vaccines for the general public. Finally.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They start being rolled out. They roll out. They're rolling. Roll out. People get in them.

Cristina: Not really.

Jack: Not really. That immediately created a flat earth division.

Cristina: A flat earth.

Jack: Yeah. Like when f****** people. The same people, but like when we were trying to reconfirm with people that the earth is round, and then the whole f****** flat earth movement happened. So kind of like that, but with vaccines, which it's ironically, the same people who were already supporting flat earth that are now like, no, vaccines are dangerous. Don't get me wrong, these vaccines were tested incredibly fast.

Cristina: Yes. It's not dangerous in how they imagine.

Jack: Because we were using things we have already tested in other vaccines and crap. And that's what allowed it to be faster. We use pre existing information and did advanced testing and did very sped up testing that allowed us to use data from already existing vaccines and the chemicals that we added to the new vaccines to fight Covid. It's like a whole process that allowed us to do it faster.

Cristina: Yes. It's not from the devil.

Jack: All this information does not get told to the masses because scientists are. And all they know how to do is say, well, in our hypothesis it showed that the mitochondria was connected to the jugi mabob. And this is like shut the f*** up and just speak to the retards that don't understand what you're saying, bro. No, they just talk down. It's all right. They get that they don't understand. Just, just make the words simple. Be like vaccine in arm tested real good. Very good. No robots in vaccine healthy. Yes. No vaccine bad. Yes, vaccine good. And then show them pictures that explain it too. Because some people are so dumb they don't get that part. And that's fine. Not everybody's supposed to understand scientific notation. We need science communicators, not scientists. Because scientists cannot stand in front of people and talk. They're too dumb. All they know is what they're working on and they don't know s*** else. They don't know f*** else, dude. And that's a problem. Don't put a f****** quiet shy nerd who only hangs out with other quiet shy nerds that are only their peers in front of a public of mostly under educated individuals. That doesn't make sense. So that's the government's fault? All the anti vaxxers are the government's fault because you're like, well, usually it takes really long, but because of the mehuza and the gizzle and what the f***. I don't understand any of these words. But they said it's been tested shorter than usual. I heard that part. So what they mean is this can't really be tested safe. If you think about it, I didn't get all the other words that were telling me something about one thing or another.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But I know that the vaccine wasn't tested the right amount. It's like, well, they explained how it works, but like they're too dumb to bring it down.

Cristina: Yes. And now they're protesting. Yeah.

Jack: Now we got a bunch of people who are like, my right. It's so scary and dangerous. People getting sick and dying. Don't get me wrong, that did Happen. A lot of people got sick from the vaccine and like, bad sick, bad sick, bad sick. But it's. There's going to be a margin for error.

Cristina: The vaccine itself or like Covid. Like they still caught the vaccine.

Jack: People who didn't have the COVID at all.

Cristina: The vaccine was actually hurting them.

Jack: Yeah, the vaccine killed a couple of people, but the margin for error is there. Somebody's gonna have a bad reaction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's so infinitesimally small that out of million billions of people in the world. Billions who've gotten it. We had an outbreak of six dead women. Then it just got. We plugged the hole. Okay. We fixed the problem.

Cristina: Yeah. They stopped, I think for that time.

Jack: Yeah. Worked on it. And then it's gone.

Cristina: Yeah. Like the right thing to do.

Jack: We got 8 billion people and 6 deaths. More people have died of less s*** in more time. In less time. In the same time frame, actually. In that time that we were complaining about. I'm gonna take f****** vaccines for some small village in West Bubba. F***. Got bombed. And more people died instantaneously. As. You didn't even finish your sentence.

Cristina: Like, how many people died from COVID at that time?

Jack: I don't know. I don't know. A lot maybe, Probably. But compared to what? Like a lot as compared to what? You know, like you compared to one thing, you're like, well, I guess it's not really that bad. Compared to another thing. Oh, so terrible.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, that's another problem. Media just focuses on brainwashing and s***.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that slowly led into the racism against the Asians. Asian Americans.

Cristina: Yeah. A lot of videos are not safe for them.

Jack: Which is weird because a lot of the videos I saw were black people beating up on the Asians, which was like, this is. What the f*** aren't you guys just came out from being like totally abused yourselves. You had a whole protest last year about this and now you're doing it to the Asians?

Cristina: Yes, dude.

Jack: I watched an entire video of two black dudes and a black girl beating the f*** out of an Asian old lady. Just cuz this is your fault.

Cristina: That is really sad.

Jack: And dude, like, what is happening? How you gonna be this hypocritical?

Cristina: I don't know. And then telling them. I don't know if they told them, but how many people have told them? Go back to your country.

Jack: Those people should probably though. I was born in the. No, no, we're rejecting you. You just jumped an old lady because she brought Covid. She looks like she hasn't Left this country in years, if ever. Yeah, and you jumped her because she's Asian. Go back to your f****** country. No, no, no. Citizenship rejected. Get the f*** out. Go take a f****** ancestry. We'll take you to random country with dark people, bro. I don't give a f***. We'll just drop you off somewhere. You say you're part of them. I don't give a f***. You ain't f******. No. That's crazy. That's crazy as f***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: How did we have entire series of protests about black lives matter, and then you just decided, but Asian lives don't.

Cristina: But Asia. That's what we learned.

Jack: That's what we learned. Black people believes that black lives matter, but Asian lives. That. That's not the same. So then the argument of s***, I guess saying all lives matter kind of held weight. Cuz like they quickly toss out the window, Asian people lives matter because you're not Asian, you don't give f***.

Cristina: So should we start an Asian lives matter group?

Jack: Well, that happened.

Cristina: Oh, that did. Okay.

Jack: That was the aftermath of bunch of Asians getting a bit. Well, Asian lives matter.

Cristina: Yeah, they do. Why they do.

Jack: We shouldn't have to emphasize. It should just be all lives. It should be. It should be. The fact that we have to emphasize any specific is the problem. So whites don't like blacks, but blacks don't like Asians. Do Asians have a problem with Hispanics? Asians were at the wall like, yeah, build it. F*** them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like I don't f****** know at this point, dude. You know what? If you're not Native American, get the f*** out of the country. Let's just start there. All of us. Let's just get the f*** out. Let's just go out. All of us. We don't know where we came from.

Cristina: Done enough to them.

Jack: Yeah, we're just gonna find people who we look kind of sort of like and just go there. Let's just do that. All of us. If you're not Native American, get the f*** out. Just do that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's it. We stop f****** this country up. It's the only way.

Cristina: Yeah, that's the solution. That's a great solution. Why don't we do that? D***, no one wants to do that.

Jack: There's like 50,000 Native Americans. And everybody else is not.

Cristina: Yes. There's too many people.

Jack: Yeah, like my vast majority, everybody else is not Native American.

Cristina: And that would be talking about Canada too, though.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah.

Cristina: We're talking. Not just United States. Got to leave. Canada's got to go too.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. The only people who are fairly where they are are the South Americans because they are a clean breed of whatever, half native and Spaniard.

Cristina: He didn't kill off the natives.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just f***** them all.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Good for them.

Jack: Good for them. F****** everything they see.

Cristina: That's how you do it. Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, eventually New York legalized marijuana.

Cristina: Yay.

Jack: That's a thing. Medical use, primarily.

Cristina: Yeah. Every state is legalizing.

Jack: Yeah. Joyce got it as well.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Wisconsin's had it for a while. Little by little. I think most states now have it legalized. So that went great. When the T. Pain thing.

Cristina: Yes. He.

Jack: He realized that he had that Instagram is flawed with that hidden folder.

Cristina: Yeah. Why is there a hidden folder? I don't know. But he just noticed he was missing.

Jack: What, 200, hundreds, hundred celebrities just wanting to be his friend and he was just not. Not aware.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't hang out on Instagram. How would I know?

Cristina: Yeah. And he just realized that. I wonder if he, after realizing that, has contacted all of them.

Jack: Why would he contact all. He just accepted. Celebrities don't just casually talk to each other. They're just people.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: I'm just like, I don't know Brad Pitt, but I'm gonna send him an inbox. Like, what the.

Cristina: What if Brad Pitt was in his inbox? So maybe they'll. I don't know.

Jack: Like, how would that play out?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Like, hey. Hey.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know what they do. I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. Hi. Hi.

Cristina: I guess, I assume they all want to do a project together.

Jack: The f*** would that even look like? Brad Pitt and T. Pain?

Cristina: I don't know. We'll find out when they make a.

Jack: Project together, I guess. And then we had some mass shootings in Atlanta and Boulder. Two weeks apart from each other because that still hasn't gone away. We just have mass shootings once in a while. You know, they. They died down. We don't have them for a while and then they come back. You know, we need a couple of mass shootings every year and school shootings.

Cristina: Population control, I guess. Mass shootings, but all population control.

Jack: We're just trying to reduce the amount of people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Regardless of where. It's non biased. It's just wherever the f*** there's a shooter in the least. Bias is school and just f******. They go into school, they kill random people. Whoever drew death that day as a straw is just who's the f***. Got it. It's harsh, but Population control. We're talking about resource problems. Okay, then nobody if really believe there's a resource problem, then you shouldn't have a problem with this. This is how the world should work. Right? Because we're letting people overseas die because we have a resource problem we got to worry about. Re. Well, this is the same.

Cristina: This is the same.

Jack: We're not picking who dies now. They're just dying.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if you believe there's a resource problem, then mass shootings shouldn't bother you because it happens. You rather they live a suffering life as more people get born and consume resources faster and eventually. No, they're doing you a service.

Cristina: I don't want to say that. What? I don't think there's a resource problem though.

Jack: So I guess there is no resource problem. I'm just saying for people who believe there's a resource problem, they should probably be like, well, this is great. Like it's not and there isn't a f****** resource problem. We got s***** distribution of resources. That's different.

Cristina: That's very different.

Jack: A bunch of rich people with most of everything and then everybody else gets shreds. There's not really a resource problem. We just haven't decided to kill and eat all the rich people, which would be a astoundingly easy considering we out there's like 20 of them.

Cristina: Yeah, we could.

Jack: We could easily just eat them. Yeah, we could eat them. Take all of their property by force and they can't stop us.

Cristina: But how much people are protecting those people?

Jack: Those people would join us if we just agreed as people that beyond a certain point, if you're a certain level of rich, we could just eat you.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: If you're just a certain level of rich, we could just eat you. That's it.

Cristina: That's it.

Jack: That's it. The problem is people are too scared. Oh, I might go to jail. Yeah, but you'll make the world a better place. But we're all the main character. I can't spend the better world in jail.

Cristina: Okay, so this person isn't going to jail. This is like that. What was that famous movie where everyone gets to kill each other for one night? This is just for the rich people. Yeah.

Jack: Oh, the rich purge. But they got. That's not fair. They got bunks and s***, military vehicles driven by people who they could pay to not participate in the purge.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Okay, it has to just be. After you've made this much money, you're a criminal and we get to eat you. And it's like if you've ever wanted to taste human. Well, Bezos is a billionaire. Oh, s***. We still got billionaires. Yeah, we haven't caught Bezos yet. Oh, let's go Bezos hunting.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Yeah. I mean that make perfect sense when the world decides to work together to stop the problem that we've created of huge capitalistic wedges between classisms.

Cristina: Yes. What a great way to fix it. What?

Jack: Yep. And then India goes up in Covid, then Palestine and Israel explode into a massive battle. And then Australia with a giant mice problem.

Cristina: Yes. There's a bunch of mice biting people in hospitals and schools, in a jail. They had to relocate all the people from the gel to another place because the mice were just attacking everything.

Jack: They had rabies?

Cristina: No, they were just biting the. They. They bit something important from the gel electron, something electrical. And so they had to go to another place.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: And they also were eating all the farm food, which was pretty horrible.

Jack: I can imagine. Yeah. If you have no clean farm food they could eat without catching some sort of disease or some crap.

Cristina: Then a volcano exploded in Congo, Near Congo. It looked really cool. At least the pictures did. All the people evacuated from the main city there.

Jack: I mean, all volcano eruptions look great.

Cristina: Yes, they do.

Jack: But yeah, it's like a unique looking non frequent event.

Cristina: And in Canada, 215 children were found.

Jack: Oh my God. Yes, the f******. The school or some s***, right?

Cristina: Yeah, from Catholic schools. I think it was Native American children. They just found a bunch of dead bodies. There were unmarked graves. They found so many children. So many. And I think that was like the first one they found. And then they found other ones after in other schools or what used to be schools. And then soon after churches were being burned down.

Jack: That's about right. I don't know why we're still dealing with Catholicism. Why we haven't decided that you kind of unanimously responsible for all the horrors that have ever happened.

Cristina: We just keep finding more.

Jack: I mean, wasn't. Wasn't the First Reich also Christian?

Cristina: What was he?

Jack: Christian Nazis.

Cristina: He was Christian though, weren't they? I don't know.

Jack: I mean like, great, whatever, but I'm pretty sure they were Christian and that a lot of that was all stemming from like all of the. Every kind of everything. Evil. Christianity is evil inherently.

Cristina: This was Catholic, which is I guess the worst of the worst.

Jack: It's the worst of all Christian branches, right? Yeah. They're responsible for the most death. They want you to pretend to drink blood and eat flesh. And they like to tell the story of a dude who killed the firstborn? Unless you killed a goat and covered the top of your door with it.

Cristina: And got a guy. Yeah.

Jack: Got a guy to pretend he was gonna kill his son. Just that religion, them.

Cristina: There's so much wrong with them.

Jack: It's a lot wrong with Christian.

Cristina: We just find more things.

Jack: Yeah. Like a bunch of crazy.

Cristina: Cancel it school. Cancel everything else.

Jack: We can't, because they support things like the left and the right and.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And people are like, no, but God. It's like, you don't give a about no God, bro. Shut the upper.

Cristina: You'd have canceled them so long ago.

Jack: Yeah. Then eventually Covid decided to, like, multiply. Deconstruct from its Mighty Morphin Megazord form into individual parts.

Cristina: Yes. There was the Delta, which we thought.

Jack: Was super scary and dangerous and evil, and then it grew a little more.

Cristina: And became the Delta plus.

Jack: Yes. And we're like, oh, no. Delta Plus. This is the Super Mega one. But then in actual supervillain came in.

Cristina: I don't know how you pronounce it. Omicron.

Jack: Omicron.

Cristina: Omicron.

Jack: Yeah. That showed up. And now we're like, oh, my God. But the Omicron thing, the funniest part is that right now, at this point. So right now. Okay, so it's what, the first. And as of us recording this, technically, on paper, the pandemic is over. It's been over because we have vaccines for the problem at hand, and the amount of deaths have steadily been going down, even if the amount of cases have been going up. We're basically dealing with a flu season equivalent, and people have been shook in panic. And that's why the hospitals fill up, because most of the people in the hospital aren't having, like, tremendously bad reactions. But everybody gets scared, gets tested and runs to the hospital.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But the death rate is continuing to drop.

Cristina: Okay, so we're not in a pandemic.

Jack: We've not dropped the title.

Cristina: The title again.

Jack: We're in this place where the government overreached and they need to scare you back to normal. They need to. The narrative needs to make sense. They can't just say we f***** up and we overdid it.

Cristina: They can't say we saved the day either.

Jack: It wouldn't make sense. People are still too scared. You can't just be like, oh, no, it stopped. Because then people can question, was there ever.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because it was never as bad as government pretended it was, but they were. They had to be cautious. That's true. They didn't. They. They Overstepped in caution. Because if it did turn out as bad as we were predicting it would be, we'd be all f*****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But the fear of the government is losing power. So they did the right thing at the beginning by overstepping. But then they were like, oh, but how do we go back on it now? That's the problem. That's how we ended up where we are. Because they didn't want to say, okay, those were security measures. Now we can go back to this kind of life that makes perfect sense.

Cristina: Can you imagine? Do you have an idea of how they're gonna.

Jack: No, it's just gonna slowly trickle back to normality.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's gonna happen seamlessly. That's the goal. To seamlessly make it normal.

Cristina: It'll be seamlessly normal. And there's less where there's no more coveted variants. Are they gonna.

Jack: Yeah, I don't know why the f*** they're naming all the variants when the flu does this every f****** year.

Cristina: We don't have a name for everything.

Jack: I mean, we do, but we don't talk about it.

Cristina: Yeah, no one knows. Like, it's just the flu.

Jack: Yeah, Like a vaccine scientist knows exactly what the. The name of each strain of the flu there is, but, like, we're not advertising it on TV and, like, screaming.

Cristina: At people, this once here, there's three different variants.

Jack: Just, like, take the f****** flu shot in your. Fine. Yeah, well, no, if you don't like what there are right now at this moment, the flu is deadlier. Again.

Cristina: The flu is deadlier.

Jack: Flu is currently deadlier than the coronavirus. Again, like, that happened in the middle of 2021. Like, it just went backwards to the point that now, again, the flu is the most overpowered thing. It's no longer Covid. Okay, but also, we are not stopping talking about COVID That ball got rolling, and it's just a snow ball and it's a giant hill. Doesn't stop f****** getting bigger. It's annoying.

Cristina: Wow. There's also a fungus version in India.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Remember that?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was the airborne version in the south.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And there was the contact version that was over here in the east.

Cristina: Ah, okay. Man, so many. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. There's a million of these.

Cristina: Gotta catch them all. No, don't do that. That'd be interesting if you caught them all.

Jack: Gotta catch them all. Covid Month.

Cristina: There's gotta be someone out there that accidentally somehow just traveling because I guess they have to because of work, so they're forced to get these not they're forced to, but they just accidentally.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I don't know, like someone who drives a plane. I don't know who's most in danger. Or ships.

Jack: I mean, doubtfully. After you get it, you probably just stop working in general.

Cristina: Juneteenth becomes an official holiday.

Jack: Yeah, finally, Juneteenth, an official holiday. The day slavery ended has been cemented and is now something we celebrate, which feels probably like should have been since the day slavery ended. But I know why people take their time. So thanks for throwing us a bone, white people. Thanks for throwing us a day.

Cristina: Are we gonna start having fun?

Jack: And the shortest month.

Cristina: A day.

Jack: And the shortest month.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Thanks, white people. We appreciate it. Then space happens. For the first time ever, there is space.

Cristina: I'm pretty sure that was there.

Jack: You sure?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, well, I guess that's been there this whole time. Anyways, Leon Elon Musk used the apparently always there space to get a rover to Mars. That's cool.

Cristina: Hasn't there been rovers to Mars? No, no, I think they've been. There's been one. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, NASA's. NASA's rover.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I said Elon, but NASA's rover lands there on Mars.

Cristina: Also, Elon did some space stuff this year.

Jack: Bunch of space. Yeah, there's a bunch of Elon Musk stuff, including neural link and his starlink. And Tesla got better and bigger. And they have a robot, a house robot that's announced.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. Do you know what the house robot thing is called?

Jack: No. House buddy. House buddy.

Cristina: Okay, go look that up.

Jack: Go Google house buddy. Tell me if I got it right.

Cristina: Yeah. Neuron link.

Jack: Neuralink. Yeah. Neuralink is nuts. I'm probably gonna get it. You're probably gonna get it after it's well tested. But, yeah. So then, Then. Then after all of that excitement, we took a weird turn for even more exciting when Biden was like, look, everybody, I'm about to blow your minds. I'm gonna do what every president's been talking about doing. And I don't know why they don't do it, but I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna take every soldier out of Afghanistan and everybody's at once. Wait, don't. No. There's a reason we don't do it. He's like, no, no, no. Y' all's just p******. I am the real deal. I'm here to do what the people tell me to. And the people told me to take all the soldiers out of Afghanistan. But there's a reason the people aren't in charge of s*** because the people are f****** stupid. So he did exactly as the people wanted him to do. The stupid people who don't get how politics and military work. He did just what they wanted. And he took all the soldiers out at the same time, but they wanted it done fast. And he said, I promise, fast.

Cristina: He did it fast.

Jack: And he did it so fast. But there was one stipulation to doing it fast. It would take years to get enough ships and planes out there to then board all of the tanks and artillery and weapons we have. So we were like.

Cristina: We abandoned them.

Jack: Yeah, just. Just you. We can leave them all. They're not gonna use them. We're just gonna leave them all here, and we're all gonna leave. And we did that. And it took a single week for the Taliban to come right out of the holes they were hiding, which we thought they were dead or some s***. But no, they were just so well hidden because they were too scared because of the death grip that Obama put over Afghanistan. And now without that death grip with his homie who was just like, hey, my homie put the death grip. I don't know why he did that. That's so crazy. I'm gonna take that death grip away and everybody who's watching anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And now.

Cristina: Yeah, right.

Jack: The Taliban took over all of the. Everything. All the guns and all the bases and all the codes and all those tanks and weapons and all the stuff. And now Afghanistan is a terrorist nation.

Cristina: Yeah, that happened.

Jack: That happened fast. Fast. It just came and went. It was just like, now we just have Afghanistan, the terrorist country. Yeah, like, it went from just normal people to a country run by terrorists.

Cristina: Yeah, man. We live with that.

Jack: That's f*****. Because it's the. That we've been being racist about this whole time, except we made it a reality. Well, like, if you're from Afghanistan. Oh, don't you know the jokes? Don't blow me up. Oh, you're coming on the plane with me. Don't blow me up. Well, like, bro, now, now. If somebody from Afghanistan gets on your plane, s**** on bricks, how the f*** are you just gonna leave all the Taliban people to take all the what?

Cristina: I don't know. That's the.

Jack: They just murdered random Afghanis. He's just like, f*** these people. Like, what? We really just gave the power to the terrorists. We made ISIS 2.0.

Cristina: He was cool with that.

Jack: He was cool with that? Well, the people were cool with that. Yeah, because the people wanted him to do it. And He's a people pleaser and he did what the people wanted.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He got them out.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess so. Yay. He's hero.

Jack: He did what he said he was gonna do.

Cristina: He did it.

Jack: And they asked him to do it. And he did it. He did it. Nobody, nobody can tell him he didn't do it. He did do it. He did do it. They can't tell him s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And becomes a him. Well, you didn't know I did it. You told me to and I did it. I came up here with promises and I'm keeping promises, but they were very.

Cristina: Angry at him afterwards.

Jack: Well, that's their fault. They need to shut the f*** up. Yeah, they asked for something, deal with it. Yeah, you wanted the troops out, we took the troops out. Now you want, you want to problem solve, grab some guns, get on that plane over there and we'll see how it goes. You go over. You wanted them out. The soldiers are gone. They're not going back. They know what's happening over there. You want it out now, you go. You go fix it. You go James Bond that s*** on your own. The f***. That's crazy. And, yeah, then we got hit by some crazy a** storm. Ida. And Ida destroyed Louisiana.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: And then drowned Jersey and New York.

Cristina: And the hurricane and the tornadoes.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Jersey had seven tornadoes in one week.

Cristina: It was all in a week.

Jack: It was in two weeks, I think. But for the first time since like 1910 or some s***.

Cristina: For a while.

Jack: Yeah, for a while where there was one by chance and it wasn't even complete. And I believe it didn't even touch ground. And then we had seven that did. Yeah, nice. Just, you know, no. Climate change. There's no such thing.

Cristina: There's no such thing.

Jack: A state that hasn't had a tornado in over a hundred years. Seven, two weeks. Mmm.

Cristina: America, everything's fine.

Jack: Everything's fine. Yeah. Right now at this moment, we're living that meme with a little dog inside the burning house.

Cristina: Yeah, that's the burning house is hers.

Jack: Yeah. And we're just like, this is fine. That's how it goes. And shortly thereafter, a bunch of people drowned and died and whatnot. Bezos went to space.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. Because that's how we roll some rich dudes based on his buddy or something.

Jack: Yeah. They went out there, it went to colonize space together by themselves. We don't know what b*** stuff they did up there, but they went together.

Cristina: Everyone made fun of their ship because.

Jack: It looked like the p**** that Jeff Bezos wishes He had.

Cristina: Oh, yes, yes.

Jack: And then Squid Game happened and the world got shook by Koreans once again, as they have all the best dramas ever made.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we don't argue that. We know that there are way more dramas that come from Mexico and Spain. That's an obvious statement. They pump one new out every week. But quality wise, I'm saying Korean is the best. Koreans, they got it.

Cristina: They got it.

Jack: They got it. That's. That's where it at. That's where it's at, bruh.

Cristina: And people who didn't know found out.

Jack: Found out. Yeah. So I've been down that rabbit hole since I was a kid. Early days of my life.

Cristina: Don't say that. You're gonna be a hipper hipster.

Jack: What? I remember watching KBS on cable. Was it channel 23? Yeah, I think it was channel 23. Actually it was on channel 17 for a while and then when they change, we changed. Like companies, you know, they have channels arranged differently. Yeah, then it was on channel 23.

Cristina: You're watching Korean things.

Jack: KBS subtitles.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Great dramas. The best. All romance for whatever reason.

Cristina: And then Metaverse. Yeah, Metaverse was announced and Facebook changed to Meta.

Jack: Yeah, Facebook changed its name to Meta.

Cristina: And then we got some creepy commercials about what that's gonna look like.

Jack: Like we've had Metaverse, except the meta part doesn't exist. We've had universes we hang out in, very detailed. There are video games that are life style games. You could play one game forever and there'd be new content. Consider GTA is a type of Metaverse, but it's not a metaverse reality in that you're putting on a headset. Except I think now it technically is. But what they mean by the metaverse isn't even what we're talking about.

Cristina: No.

Jack: When we're talking about just a casual world, you can exist in what? This version of the Metaverse is essentially some kind of Internet. It's the next stage of the Internet where everybody owns the Internet simultaneously.

Cristina: That's going to be crazy. And it's complicated. I don't think people have. I mean, maybe by now we understand what the metaverse is going to.

Jack: Not entirely. Most people don't.

Cristina: Okay. And another thing about the Internet that's new or new from that year is NFTs.

Jack: Oh, yes. NFTs are all over the place. But Metaverse is run off of the same concept that NFTs are blockchain technology. And blockchain technology decentralizes the entirety of any content on it. Anything you Use blockchain to create is owned by everybody.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And that allows the Internet to stay free, man. It will be impossible to legislate anything around it if everybody owns all of the Internet all of the time. Because people can just decide we don't agree, and then shut down the government's Internet. That's how you do it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because the solution here is. Or not the solution, but the outcome is that the metaverse and the unity of a decentralized government in the web will then align the mentalities of anybody using those Internets, thus bringing the world closer together.

Cristina: So this is gonna be a good thing.

Jack: This is a good thing long term. Yes. It's gonna bring the world together. We're gonna be one. Because the governments of the real world might be affecting us, but they need to use the Internet that we all own.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: So they, in order to get their message out, need to rely on us agreeing with them.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Giving the power back to the people. That's why the government doesn't like this idea. They're like, we need to halt that.

Cristina: They're not gonna be able to do it.

Jack: Nope. That's the same reason the government was not supporting Bitcoin at the beginning.

Cristina: And they weren't able to stop that either.

Jack: We're never gonna stop that either. We gotta f******. We gotta stop this. Because if it's decentralized, we don't control how the dollar moves. And now who gives a s*** about your dollars? Like a million other currencies out there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Now I can trade with anybody at any moment. Don't have to worry, because f*** your dollar. So, yeah, then Dave Chappelle released a special. People try to cancel him.

Cristina: Yes. There was so many protests for the trans community.

Jack: Yeah. But that's not really a surprise. That usually happens.

Cristina: Yeah. And I think people were fired from Netflix.

Jack: Yeah. People protested thinking they would boycott Netflix. And in return, some mofos got fired. And Netflix proved I could just fire back at you guys. And then what? Which is funny because I like to think of it like, yeah, I've heard the stories of how, you know, my blue haired, overweight, gender confusing individuals protest and get our way because we scare companies. We're gonna do that right now because we don't like the words he's saying, even if they're a joke. And then they went out and they walked out. And then Netflix was like, just don't come back. You're like, wait, what? Huh? What? I thought this would work. And Netflix was like, no, I can just hire somebody who's not gonna b****.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: It's like, oh. Oh, thank you for opening that door, Netflix.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because now other people like, wait, why were we caving? F****** no money. Why don't we think they had the power? It's like, yeah. Why did you think you give them money, dude? What? Yeah, just let them leave. Give somebody else money. Netflix did it. Netflix did to the cancel culture. Well, Kevin Spacey did to me too. Just like, here's some proof. Enjoy. Netflix did the same thing. It's like, okay, walk out and keep walking.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And I'm like, what? Yeah, yeah, keep walking. That person walking in the opposite direction, that's your replacement.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Netflix on it. Oh, supporting creators. Not angry people who've never created anything and feel like they have the right to destroy everything, when in reality, they're just lesbian white women.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Which is like, you're still abusing your privilege against a black man, aren't you?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Ain't that the irony? They're abusing their white privilege against a black guy. Mmm. We've entered some weird territory.

Cristina: Yes, that. That's weird. Okay. And then. Oh, Astroworld Festival. That was pretty tragic.

Jack: Oh, yeah, that's that festival where people entered a Travis Scott concert and they.

Cristina: Were trampled to death.

Jack: A Juice World concert. Giga Dee Goo.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, but they totally went into that Travis Scott. And then people were trampled and killed because it was so densely packed.

Cristina: They're just squeezed to death.

Jack: Yeah, but those 10 people got to see Juice Wrld again, and that's what matters.

Cristina: That's. I don't know. Ah, that's so horrible. I don't know.

Jack: And then the CDC recommends all 18 and older get a COVID 19 booster, and they change the terms of what fully vaccinated means to three shots, not two.

Cristina: That was four now.

Jack: Oh, it's four. It might be. I don't remember all of the above. And the most important news of the entire year is that Britney Spears has finally regained her freedom, and now she can go blow her brain talk because she hates her life.

Cristina: Yay. Yay. What a year.

Jack: What a year. And now. Now we've just begun this beautiful new year where it's a new year and it's new uses, it's new us, it's new uss.

Cristina: No, because we're rambling now.

Jack: Yeah, we're.

Cristina: Although we were rambling before, but now we're called rambling. Oh, my God.

Jack: Now we're saying the words rambling.

Cristina: Whoa. Beautiful. So new.

Jack: Super new. So, yeah, let us know what you Guys, think about, did we miss anything you guys wanted to mention? Mention it for us. Tell us. Tell us in comments, tell us in reviews, go on social media, email us on Facebook, on Twitter, on this, on that. Tell us all the things. Tell us, if you like, how we're now referring it to. To it as Rambling, because it's always been rambling anyways, and now we're just calling it Rambling and making a division. So there's basically two shows on the feed now. Yeah, that's where we are.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Two shows on the feed. Just me and Kristi here rambling, trying to explain to you guys the truth about everything that exists in the world, the real meaning behind all the things. And then there are conversations with an interesting, usually eccentric guest, but very interesting.

Cristina: Yes, very interesting guest. Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah, if you guys want to listen to episodes about all the things that happened and get our take on moment to moment, all the research we've done, all the missions we went on in 2021, all the discoveries we've been on, all the guests, we've had some very. The year of the most unique guests.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you can definitely find all of that stuff on the official website, greatthoughts.info on Apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can also reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review.

Cristina: The show and let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. Tell them, hey, the Just Conversation podcast now officially goes by Rambling in one of their shows. And you should listen to Rambling by the Just Conversation podcast. And they'll be like, oh, I like to hear people ramble.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah.

Cristina: And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing from personal and thanks for listening. Bye.

Jack: Kind of badass. You thought, had we be doing this this long?

Cristina: Yeah. Really? I don't know. I have no idea. I never had a time schedule thing. Like, I never was thinking how long. I don't know. It's just the thing we were doing at the moment and that was it. I never really thought about the future of the podcast or how long I pictured myself doing the podcast or anything.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: It just happened and it just kept happening and that was it.

Jack: Yeah. Now we're here.

Cristina: And now we're here.

Jack: We're.

Cristina: And I don't know where I'll be next.

Jack: Podcasts in the ranks kind of often don't know who's listening. So attentively. Thank you, anybody Listening. Thank you.

Cristina: Thank you.

Jack: That's awesome.

Cristina: But were you thinking we'd be here?

Jack: I also don't really like, you know, how many things I've started in my life. I just keep doing them forever. I don't really quit anything.

Cristina: You don't have any plans?

Jack: No, I just start things. And I'm the opposite to most people that they're known for starting and stopping something and then starting something new and stopping that, or never finishing something and just starting the next thing and just wandering off. No, I do all the things all at the same time.

Cristina: But you don't at least plan things out, though, because you keep going. I don't know. I feel like someone who does keep going, it's because they have some type of plan.

Jack: I have no plan.

Cristina: You have no plan.

Jack: I. I roll with it.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: As it. As it. As it goes. Things.

Cristina: Is it shocking then, that we've lasted this long?

Jack: No. I've literally never let anything fall.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Only the things that I've made and given to somebody else to manage have fallen apart. Yeah.

Cristina: That's different.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: So, yeah, pretty cool.

Cristina: Cool. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts Info, art by Zero Lupo, and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 155: Santa The One True God

What are Santa’s powers? How did he acquire them? How does he pull of the Christmas Day Miracles? On this Christmas special, the duo crack open the case of Santa’s true power level. Comparisons to the other deities are made, and the greatest of Gods is crowned, but who that turns out to be is someone no one expected!

Rambling 155: Santa The One True God

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed:

  • Snowflake Patterns
  • Santa is a Genie
  • Elves are Fairies
  • The Shadow Realm
  • Is Santa a God?
  • What are Santa’s powers?
  • Omniscience
  • Santa’s Adrenochrome
  • God Wars
  • Santa The Genius
  • Immortality
  • Everything Shapeshifts
  • Capitalism

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new EP episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody, pull them nice and close, and get ready to listen to our holiday special.

Cristina: Ho, ho, ho.

Jack: It's Christmas.

Cristina: Look outside. It's raining. Oh, I mean, snowing, but I doubt it's snowing.

Jack: Is it Christmas, or is tomorrow Christmas?

Cristina: It's Christmas.

Jack: What? They. What's the wait? Yesterday was Christmas Eve.

Cristina: Yeah, yesterday.

Jack: So this weekend just lined up perfectly for everybody.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, they're Friday. They get to do whatever the f***, and then today is actual Christmas Day.

Cristina: Yes. Now they get to spend their Christmas Day listening to us.

Jack: That's fantastic.

Cristina: Like, who wouldn't want to do that?

Jack: What? Spend their Christmas Day listening to us?

Cristina: Yes. This is the greatest activity ever.

Jack: Yeah, man. What better thing to do than listen to the Just Conversation podcast as we ramble upon. As we ramble about Christmas, the holidays, our holiday episodes. That what this is.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We can talk about snow.

Cristina: We don't talk about snow.

Jack: We're gonna talk about.

Cristina: How do you even talk about snow?

Jack: Every snowflake is unique.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And that can't be. Can't be true. That can't be true. That needs to be at least two that were identical. There's too many snowflakes. I get that. The order in which it generates is random.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's what's truly random. But if you were to pick up two f****** snowflakes and, like, whatever. Two snowflakes. Look, they're most alike.

Cristina: A limited amount of patterns. Like.

Jack: Yes. There has to be, because there's. It's only so big, and it's being made out of the same particles.

Cristina: So.

Jack: Come on.

Cristina: Can't be infinite.

Jack: It can't be infinite. There needs to be a combination that isn't unique.

Jack: And these have happened several times by now.

Cristina: Yeah. See it, though. Who would know?

Jack: Yeah. But, like, factually.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If we were to calculate. Okay, right. Size. And for this size, there are this many different particles that make up the snowflake, and out of all these particles, this is how many different combinations exist. How many times in Nature. In a single storm, a single snowstorm, would that one snowflake. Like, how many different patterns exist? Right. How many different patterns can rearrange in a single snow? And after how long would we need for the pattern to repeat?

Cristina: I hope there's someone that worked on.

Jack: This, because this our project. We're just going to find out how. How much we got to do of everything.

Cristina: That is way too much work. We need an actual scientist to do that.

Jack: It will be hard, right, because you got to think of, like, okay, how many particles make up the snowflake? And then how many different arrangements can we make with the same particles? That's already complicated because there are billions, maybe trillions of particles. And then all the possible combinations.

Cristina: Yes. It's still. It's kind of infinite, isn't it?

Jack: It's kind of. Well, no, because it's. It's infinite by our understanding. But there's definitely a limit. We just couldn't comprehend it. Yeah, that's a reality of the matter. But it is definitely infinite. Without a question.

Cristina: But there has to be some that are similar to each other.

Jack: Yes. There has to be identical. We just couldn't find them because the. The probabilities are just not there. Yeah, but like, if we can get a genie and be like, if there are two identical snowflakes, put them in front of me.

Cristina: You want the genie to do that?

Jack: The genie would make it happen. He would show you the two identical, like, from throughout all of history. There are two identical snowflakes. Drought all of time showed me these two. And he will poof them in front of you and there will be two.

Cristina: Melt away.

Jack: No, he can preserve them or something. He just pulled him out of God knows where. Maybe he can just teleport me somewhere where they'll be sustained.

Cristina: What if he's a mean genie?

Jack: That'd be weird. But, like, would defeat the purpose of him bringing it in the first place. Yeah, and like, what a useless genie to have for an experiment.

Cristina: Yes. Okay, but this genie, then, will just have two perfect.

Jack: Yeah, he'd bring two completely, flawlessly perfect snowflakes that are identical, like 10 times.

Cristina: The size that they normally are. Unless you have the equipment to look at them.

Jack: Well, I'll both look at them. Small, and I have a genie. I can make them the size of buildings. I can see the nuances.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That's. Another wish.

Jack: Yeah, I can do a witch.

Cristina: Another wish.

Jack: Oh, another wish. Yeah, man, I. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: That's what Christmas is about, right? Genies and snowflakes yes.

Cristina: Genies and snowflakes.

Jack: That's what Christmas is about. I don't give a f*** what anybody tells me. You could not convince me otherwise.

Cristina: I've never heard about a genie showing up in anything Christmas related, though.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Really.

Jack: Okay, well, how does the genie function? You get him to show up. However, there's a couple of different ways. Some, you chant somebody rub a bottle and, like, jizzes out the genie. Right? So, however, there's ways to summon the genie. And then when the genie shows up, what do you do?

Cristina: He grants you three wishes.

Jack: Is it three? Sometimes it's just one.

Cristina: Maybe. Yeah.

Jack: You just ask for a thing. You ask him for a thing and he gives you the thing.

Cristina: Are you calling sad a genie?

Jack: What's the difference?

Cristina: I don't know. They don't.

Jack: How do you. How do you summon Santa? You gotta write to him, or you gotta make a wish in your head or out loud for what it is that you want, and then Santa grands your wish. Okay, fair enough. So it's a genie with rules.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Every genie has rules. Or you can wish for one thing. Can I wish for more wishes? No.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, he's a genie with rules.

Cristina: He's a genie with worlds.

Jack: Yeah, it sounds legit to me.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's just a genie with rules.

Cristina: I did not think that. I was thinking it'd be. If he was any fictional thing. He'd have to be an elf.

Jack: He'd have to be an elf. What's the difference between being an elf? What? Why would he have to be an elf? Elves are tiny people.

Cristina: No, they're not. We mostly see them as tiny people.

Jack: Well, Arctic elves.

Cristina: You think there's a specific type of elf in the Arctic that are tiny?

Jack: Well, I actually do. I've done a little bit of homework on this particularly to find out, and I believe that there is a specific type. Okay, so first, fairies.

Cristina: That's exactly what I was thinking about. Fairies.

Jack: Well, yes, there's many different kinds of fairies.

Cristina: Exactly. They're all different sizes.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Most of them are small. Yes.

Jack: But elves are a specific race of fairy.

Cristina: Yes, but I'm talking about Santa. If he was an elf or a fairy.

Jack: Well, he wouldn't be an elf. He'd be a fairy. Okay, but the elves are not. Santa Claus is not enough. There's no way.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: He's quite different.

Cristina: You know what he is?

Jack: Well, he's not an elf, okay? He's quite different than the elves, who are tiny and clearly phasing in and out. Through, arguably, the shadow realm.

Cristina: Man. That's exactly what I was thinking.

Jack: You were thinking that.

Cristina: Yes. I was thinking you brought up before about Jesus and what he was doing in Japan. I was thinking, like, why isn't. What if the North Pole? Is that where he lives, that factory? What if that's just a front? Not a front, but that's where a portal is to the other realm where all the elves come from.

Jack: Well, elves don't need a portal.

Cristina: They don't?

Jack: No, because they're fairies. Fairies are the only creature we know who can go in and out of the shadow realm without needing some sort of catalyst.

Cristina: Oh, but all the other creatures do.

Jack: Yeah. Oh, and all the other creatures need, specifically fear.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: While the opposite is true of Santa. Well, actually not. You can fear being bad. Santa's weird. We'll get to Santa. We'll get to Santa. But the elves themselves are clearly fairies because they can move through dimensions the way the fairies do that. And we don't. We don't know of anything that isn't a fairy that does that. We only know that fairies have that. So as of now, an elf is a fairy tale type of a gnome.

Cristina: Yeah. So they come from somewhere else, and then they come here to work.

Jack: Yeah. Well, I don't know if the fairies are from the shadow realm necessarily. I know they can go to the shadow realm.

Cristina: They come from a realm.

Jack: They come from somewhere. I mean, they'd have to come from a realm. There's no way. They didn't exist in a realm.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But, like, Earth is a realm.

Cristina: Yeah. It has to be outside of Earth, I would think, because that's what we learned about fairies before, that they came from another realm.

Jack: They came from another realm. I know that. We kicked them out and we learned to travel through realms, but fairies came from another realm.

Cristina: Yeah, they came from somewhere else. They landed in Ireland. Really loved it. But then we got there.

Jack: That being said, only the ones that were in Ireland did we kick out. And we didn't send them to, like, the ether or anything. Just left the island.

Cristina: They probably went to the North Pole.

Jack: Well, no, because those were different fairies.

Cristina: Why are they different?

Jack: Because they're not elves. Elves are a type of fairy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And those are the ones in the Arctic.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There are other fairies throughout the world.

Cristina: But how do we know which ones were kicked out from Ireland? Like, it could have been them. Why can't it have been them? I don't.

Jack: Because this already existed at that point.

Cristina: Oh, it did, really?

Jack: Sort of. Santa Claus and Saint Nicker Quite significant. Aren't they older than Saint Patrick's escapades of getting rid of. Or maybe not Saint Patrick's old as.

Cristina: Yeah. Yes. We found out that. That. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. But I don't. I doubt it's a. Because what you're saying at this point is that all the fairies are the same fairies, and then there isn't, like, races of fairies. There's just quite specifically a couple of fairies, and those have been the same fairies we've always been interacting with. And that doesn't make sense because they're not a life form of their own as much as are the specific anomaly that there are a few of.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't like that. That cannot be real. We've caught too many creatures from different things to be like, well, no, these are the only ones of them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No. And there's too many fairies everywhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's fairies showing up and causing mischief and children go missing. And this happens over here. That happens over there. The fairies didn't just go to the Arctic. That's a different group of. And they behave so differently. They aren't over there.

Cristina: The ones that are over there, they were born there. Know. Oh, there are.

Jack: They are there.

Cristina: Yes. But they're different.

Jack: They're different because we know they're not causing trouble like most fairies seem to be doing.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true. Okay.

Jack: There are definitely differences with elves and the rest of the fairies. I don't think they just left Ireland and went north. There's so many holes in that narrative.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Now with Saint Nick, British. He was right.

Cristina: I have no idea.

Jack: Was he German? That's an interesting question. He's probably German. Okay, well, so St. Nick is older. Fair.

Cristina: You came before St. Patrick.

Jack: Yeah. Now, the question here is, is St. Nick and Santa Claus the same thing? Because it's possible these two are different individuals.

Cristina: They just do very similar things. Or I guess Saint.

Jack: They did not do very similar things at all. St. Nick was a guy.

Cristina: Yeah, he was a guy, but he.

Jack: Doing guy like things. And he was just generous.

Cristina: He was generous, but. Yeah. And how did that build Santa Claus? I guess they are very different people. Yeah.

Jack: I don't think one built the other. I think they were similar and they got confused. People maybe perhaps thought they were the same. Being Santa. Saint. People were like, okay, there's some similarities there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But St. Nick isn't Santa Claus because Klaus is. Klaus.

Cristina: Klaus. You know, okay.

Jack: Different name and everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Now, we know saints have powers and s***, but when we're talking about Santa we're talking about some other s***. He's out there f****** with the likes of Zeus and Jehovah.

Cristina: So he's a God?

Jack: He's something like that.

Cristina: He's gotta be.

Jack: He's definitely in the ballpark of being kind of like a God because we. We just think of what it. When, like, Christians talk about a God, right? Omniscience is like the important thing. He knows everything. Saint. Not Saint Nick, but Santa Claus knows. Knows everything. Yeah, that is his defining characteristic. To the point that he actually knows more than Jehovah.

Cristina: But he knows, like, is there an age limit to this power?

Jack: He knows everything for everyone. For everyone.

Cristina: Not just children?

Jack: No, for everyone all the time.

Cristina: Oh, okay. The stories confuse me. And I'm thinking, like, there's a child specific age range that he watches over. He knows everything.

Jack: Just knows everything all the time.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Even Jehovah, actually. Jehovah, Odin, Zeus, none of them have this ability. None of them are omniscient. No, they know a lot. But they can all be duped, they can all be tricked, they can all be betrayed and not see it coming.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Saint. I keep saying Saint Nick. That's how tangled they are. You get my point.

Cristina: Santa.

Jack: Santa Claus. Klaus. Santa Claus. He does know. You could not pull one on him. There's no way. Because he knows everything. Yeah, he's not necessarily all powerful, but he's all knowing. And that's overpowered. Even Jehovah isn't all powerful. Even Zeus isn't all. They're overpowered. Yeah, as compared to everything around them.

Cristina: But he's got to be more powerful than a normal human.

Jack: Yes, he's more powerful than normal human. And he's more powerful than an elf. Now, other than his omniscience, though, he seems to have abilities that make him come off kind of like just a creature, some sort of mythical creature, except he has this demigod esque omniscience, which is crazy. Like, people we call gods don't have this.

Cristina: But are the creature things.

Jack: Well, he has immortality, which. All the gods have this. Not necessarily all the fairies. We don't know if fairies are immortal or not. We know that thing. Creatures taking adrenochrome are.

Cristina: As long as they have it.

Jack: As long as they have it.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know if they. They probably still forever. They just. They're just feral. We don't really know, I guess.

Jack: Yeah, we don't really know. But okay, you become feral. We know that much.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because you could be a zombie and just be around Forever.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: That's the best example of what happens when there is no adrenochrome is the vampire zombie problem. Right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because you could still go on forever. It's in your blood.

Cristina: Mean you can still be killed. But if you're not, you can.

Jack: Well, then the argument is that maybe some of these wet judges and wendingos and all these creatures could be ancient because they've got the thing in their body that makes them immortal and they've gone feral. But it's not that there's many. It said there's the few running around.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But they're overpowered with time and feral, so particularly dangerous. And with mobs hunting them, they go and hide and live in areas where they can hunt creatures that nobody's going to know of.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Okay, now, immortality is definitely great, but gods have that, and anybody on adrenochrome seems to might have it. So there's nothing special with immortality.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And shape shifting seems to exist in again, all fairies.

Cristina: Everything. Yes.

Jack: Anything that has taken adrenochrome changes in some shape or form.

Cristina: Yeah. That we can't even tell what their true form is.

Jack: Yes. The difference with adrenochrome is that they. They sustain a shape. They don't shapeshift regularly. Rather, the adrenochrome creates a shifted shape and then they sustain that shape. Some of them have the ability to change forms. Not often.

Cristina: I guess vampires are really well at doing different shapes, though.

Jack: Yes. There's one.

Cristina: They're one of the advanced.

Jack: Yeah. There's. They're one of the few that has the actual ability to change or form things.

Cristina: Is just one thing.

Jack: Yeah. They change to this new thing and that's it. But there is definitely shape shifting. That's how he can make his body anomalous and fit through areas that should be impossible.

Cristina: Yeah. Like chimneys.

Jack: Yeah. Like being other ways. Or an octopus. That they. Their body is structured in such a way that they can change their shape to fit through where they need to go.

Cristina: Yeah. I wonder if he ever turns into a mouse, though. That's interesting.

Jack: Could be.

Cristina: That's a nice.

Jack: But also, it might just be that he doesn't take the shape of a thing as much as he loses his own shape and then fits through anything. It would be like becoming gas.

Cristina: Yes. Like one of those mist monsters.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: We're killing babies.

Jack: We know he can go through things.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And sustain his shape, but we don't know if he can take another shape.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he shape shifts, but he doesn't reform as anything other than himself as far as we know.

Cristina: And no one's ever seen it.

Jack: And if they we have, would we know?

Cristina: What do we know? Yeah, exactly. Okay.

Jack: Then he also has again here we're entering a little bit of God territory versus because we don't know of many creatures, if any that couldn't already fly, that could fly. Like we don't know if adrenochrome giving some creature the ability to fly. But fairies, a bunch of them could fly.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And gods can fly.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Some of them. I don't think Zeus could fly. I think Jehovah can entirely sure. Odin also couldn't fly. They had methods of doing it.

Cristina: I think there was a specific creature in South America that could fly. That was like a chicken snake thing.

Jack: Yes, I remember that.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's. It's super random what could fly. But yeah.

Jack: Yeah. That was weird. I remember what you were talking about. Was it in Africa or was it in the Amazon or something like that? Like in Brazil where there was a snake that grew wings or some s***.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. Somewhere.

Jack: So yeah, we know. Not often does that happen.

Cristina: No. So he very often for gods and fairies.

Jack: Yes. So that kind of aims in that direction. But then we come to the real, real problem. The omniscience. That's crazy. I couldn't tell you any other thing that knew everything. Couldn't name you one.

Cristina: Well, where would that type of power come from? Or I guess that would be the God power. That would be the God power.

Jack: That means he has God powers. He is a demigod. Bare minimum.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's not the. I don't believe the omniscient God that is all knowing, all powerful, all everything.

Cristina: No, he just has one of the big things.

Jack: Like I don't think that biggest of things exists.

Cristina: No.

Jack: But there is definitely demigod, demigods.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's. It seems like Santa might be not just a demigod but like one of the way overpowered ones to the point that he sounds like bullshit.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like Zeus versus Santa. Zeus will put up a harder fight. But also you'd have to out think a guy who knows everything you'll ever do.

Cristina: That's really unfair.

Jack: That's one sided as f***. Now here's actually the question because his omniscience is present. So then is it omniscient or is this just all knowing of the moment? All knowing of the moment because does he know if you'll do something bad?

Cristina: No.

Jack: That you do something bad?

Cristina: It's that it's at the moment. It has to be at the moment.

Jack: So it's not omniscience.

Cristina: No. Then what is it? It's something like that.

Jack: It's close. Yeah, we know Zeus doesn't have it.

Cristina: No. But he definitely knows it's just the moment because he has to be watching all year round.

Jack: Well, he's always watching.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He could see everything all the time. That's really what's happening.

Cristina: The illusion that he knows everything. But he doesn't.

Jack: He doesn't. He's learning it as it's happening. But he sees everything. So he knows everything that has happened and everything that is currently happening, but he has no access to what will happen.

Cristina: Yep. And he's not trying to predict it or anything. He's just waiting patiently.

Jack: Yes. Now, under that case, he would get laid out by Zeus.

Jack: Because he couldn't predict Zeus.

Cristina: No. Okay. Yes. I guess now, because he. He.

Jack: So it's not. Because it's not omniscience.

Cristina: Yeah. It is not gonna know.

Jack: Some sort of extreme sight.

Cristina: Yes. His ability to know anything like that, though.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I couldn't tell you of something that sees everything all the time forever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Even if it's just in the presence, like, get the f*** out of here.

Cristina: And then I'm pretty sure there are gods that see things, but it's usually like the future. It's always visions of the future.

Jack: And it's always a specific event, too. It's not like they see all the future all the time.

Cristina: Yes, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: It seems like omniscience might be the least likely of all the abilities that we attribute to God's having.

Cristina: That's true. But this is the closest.

Jack: He's the closest. He's the closest out of any single thing to know everything.

Cristina: Well. Well.

Jack: So what we have here is the.

Cristina: Case of God Like.

Jack: Yes. What we have here is the case of some demigod who's working with fairies. And these fairies themselves are quite unique. Again, they can move in and out of the. The Shadow Realm. I might. My guess on how everyone in the planet all at once gets gifts simultaneously.

Cristina: Has more to do with the elves.

Jack: Has more to do with the elves because we know Santa still has to travel.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's like the rest of the demigods that he has to get to a place he can only. Like Jehovah. Never went outside of his area. It's too far. He doesn't just show up somewhere else. Never happened that way. He had workers to do it. We call them Angels.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Messengers to go. The elves are the same thing.

Cristina: They pop up.

Jack: Yeah. Doesn't Zeus have, like, harpies and s***?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's the same idea. It's these creatures that are going to deliver the small messages for you, and you'll do the heavy lifting, but they can do something that probably Santa can't do himself, which is enter the shadow realm effortlessly.

Cristina: But you think he's still going to house to house? Like some houses? He might not be doing all the houses.

Jack: I don't know. If he's going to any house, then.

Cristina: He might not have the transformation power.

Jack: Again, I don't know. I don't know if he's going to any house.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But I can tell you that it makes sense for the elves to be the ones delivering the gifts and there to be.

Cristina: Because they could just go in and out.

Jack: Yeah. And there could be a f*** ton of them. And we know that fairies can change your shape.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So they can get there how? They need to drop the gift off and dissipate.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Alternatively. Which then takes us to some overpowered thing. If it isn't the elves that are helping Santa with a gift given. With the gift giving, then he is.

Cristina: Simultaneously everywhere, Time traveling or something like the Flash. I don't know.

Jack: He could be. It could be stop time, do everything. But then to him, that looks like an infinity. You got to get to every home at a normal traveling pace. Even if you're moving faster, you know how long it would take to travel. Like, it couldn't be. It doesn't make sense. He has to be able. If he's the one delivering it. Right. This is why it's likely it's the elves. Because if he's the one delivering it, not only does he have to be everywhere all at once, but he has to be consciously functional everywhere all at once, controlling all versions of him in the distinct environments they're all in. Choosing and moving appropriately and still being one conscious mind. Hard to wrap my head around that.

Cristina: Yeah. And he couldn't be just traveling quickly.

Jack: To one place to the next unless he's stopping time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's blinking from home to home. But how fast is he blinking from home to home? And how is that any different than being everywhere all at once?

Cristina: Yeah. That is too much work.

Jack: Yeah. So either he has an army, or if he can. Or he can be everywhere all at once.

Cristina: But then that's something else.

Jack: If he can be everywhere all at once. We're dealing with something so much more powerful than the closest next Thing if.

Cristina: He could be everywhere all at once. That's really complicated.

Jack: And every single version, every replica is him, purely him. And has all his powers at all the same degree. Because he needs that to do the things. Yeah, that's hardcore.

Cristina: Oh, I don't know if this is a power. I just remember though that everyone like we see him as a white dude, but he. He actually appears to children the way.

Jack: They would see him as interesting. Got that Jesus factor going on.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where if you're dark skinned, Jesus is dark. If you're light skinned, Jesus is white.

Cristina: Well, Santa has that ability. I don't know how that fits into this, but I remember that. I think that's something that fits with the transformation, I guess.

Jack: You think?

Cristina: Because he could look like anyone you like if a child sees him. I guess I don't know if children actually see him.

Jack: That's the. I'm pretty sure that's their parents plan.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because like the whole point is he's not being seen and he knows enough to not get seen. Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: He can't. No. He doesn't know the future though. Like there has to be one child.

Jack: No, no, no. Here's where the problem that you're discussing comes in. He knows everything that is happening.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. So as soon as the kid gets off of the bed.

Cristina: He knows.

Jack: He knows.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So you can.

Jack: He didn't know the kid was gonna get off the bed. But once the kid is off the bed, he knows the kid is off the bed and he's gonna could poof out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You can't catch him off guard. It's impossible to catch him off guard because he knows everything that's actively taking place. He's not in your head. But he knows when to move.

Cristina: Yeah. So he can get out of the room before you.

Jack: Before you know anything happened.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Brings up some problems, you see.

Cristina: Yeah. So there's no way.

Jack: No way he's never been seen. Not without wanting to show himself. Unless it wasn't him.

Cristina: It probably wasn't him.

Jack: Yeah. Probably wasn't him.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And maybe the shape shifting fairies, just in case they do get spotted, take the form of boss.

Cristina: I'm wondering if there's even a boss now.

Jack: If it's just an organization of fairies.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it sounds like bullshit. Right. He's too overpowered.

Cristina: It's too much.

Jack: He's more God than all the gods arguably put together.

Cristina: I would feel like some God would want to fight him especially.

Jack: It would be too one sided. It would be too one Sided. The only thing he has no access to is what's in your mind and the future.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Actually, maybe he knows what's in your mind. We don't know.

Cristina: We don't know.

Jack: We don't know. If you thought it, he might know.

Cristina: He might. You know, it's too much.

Jack: It's overpowered. So he could be the strongest, most exaggerated God looming over Earth. And he's the farthest from people as well.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Which, fair enough. That would kind of work perfectly into the whole idea that he is a God. If he was local and that overpowered to be like, okay, yeah, bullshit. But the fact that he's not hanging out with humans. He's not hanging out with gods. He's just soloing that s***. He's got elves, cuz. Like, whatever, dude.

Cristina: Yeah. And like, gods all live in their own specific area above, like, the country that they're ruling. He doesn't want to rule over people.

Jack: It's insignificant to him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's more godlike.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he's detached, huh?

Cristina: Yes. Except for this one job, which. Is it important to him? Is this a curse that was put onto him? What's going on?

Jack: I don't know. I do not know. But we do know that a lot of creatures, mainly gods, rely on fear. And maybe this one day of the year. Okay, let's look at it like this. Right? Jehovah, Zeus, all these other gods, they do their things.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They're consistently getting fuel, but they're always doing s***. They're wasting their energy. They're always doing something. Meanwhile, God performs a single day. Maybe that has enough fear.

Cristina: There, you said God.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, I guess.

Cristina: God.

Jack: Santa.

Cristina: Santa, God.

Jack: Santa, God.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Works one day.

Cristina: One day.

Jack: I mean, that generates enough joy or fear. Fear through the planet because you're fearing whether you were good or bad.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: The fear of being bad and not getting anything is what he's looking for.

Cristina: That's the situation right before the gift.

Jack: Yes. Or the monthly.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: There's a process there.

Cristina: He's.

Jack: He's got it down. Packed so hard, he might have people worrying the whole year whether they were good enough.

Cristina: Yes, that's true.

Jack: He figured out the system. He's outsmarting every God.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's like I do something once in a blue.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the closer it gets to the point, the more it's generated. Now, what you were talking about earlier is, is there a cutoff age? Yeah, I don't think there's a cutoff age. I think there's A design feature here that makes absolute perfect sense. Where is the strongest adrenochrome and children. Who has the potentiality to fear the most? Fear.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Jack: And if you get the parents to do this for you, put the fear in them, then you didn't even have to be there. You did zero work and got 100% of the adrenochrome.

Cristina: That's crazy. It actually works. Wow. He's some kind of adrenochrome God monster.

Jack: Yeah. Even if it's not adrenochrome, he's generating crap. Tons of fear.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Without doing anything. He did the work long ago. Before these other baby gods were born.

Cristina: Yes. He somehow got to the kids before them.

Jack: Yeah. Jehovah's over here. Like, I'm gonna take your firstborn in the neighborhood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, my God. First born, the neighborhood.

Cristina: This guy goes around the world.

Jack: He's got the planet shook. And they're closer to the day, the more shook the planet is. And adults get over it because they're like, you know, he's not out here. Murder. He doesn't need to. Because there's enough collective child fear, which is enough concentrated adrenaline.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That he still gets what he needs. Probably too much left over, but for.

Cristina: A whole year, like, he has to lie.

Jack: He's just one person. Think of the other gods that do it in a small, tiny region and can function off of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's 8 billion people.

Cristina: Mm. That's interesting. Yes.

Jack: He's. He's trumped this s***. How many people exist in Greece?

Cristina: But I wonder, when it comes to adrenochrome and the gods, like, do they not bother him? Because they also get that fear too.

Jack: No. They would do anything to him.

Cristina: How did they divide?

Jack: There's no dividing. They couldn't do anything to him.

Cristina: They couldn't do anything.

Jack: Nothing they could do to fight this man.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He knows that you're attacking.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He could just. He can teleport any. Zeus has to get to where he's going.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Jehovah has to get to where he's going. Odin. That. The guy needs a carriage to get where he's going.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: Santa could just be there.

Cristina: But he has the sleigh he travels to. Or that's not.

Jack: I think that's for sure. I think that's mocking. Probably Odin. Oh, I think he's just mocking Odin.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Because he could be. What does he need the sleigh for? He could just pop up everywhere all the same time. Who gives a s*** about a Sleigh.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's just Mai's trolling.

Cristina: Yes. So no flying reindeers.

Jack: That's probably not a thing. There's a bunch of parts of these stories that are mythology that was invented by people rather than the truth of the matter.

Cristina: Okay. It's hard to see which part fits and which doesn't.

Jack: Yeah, we know. He's got like, how many people exist In Greece, right. 300,000 at the time that Zeus began his charade. And now a couple million, maybe. What's a couple of million to eight f****** billion?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Where's Jehovah? Messing around? Israel. Well, great. Phenomenal, bruh. Israel when he began. Now he's, you know, he's expanded and he's in more places, but the same people he's affecting are also. Santa's also taking some of that.

Cristina: Yeah, he's taking everyone's.

Jack: He's taking everybody's. Everything. He's every. He got. He did it. He figured it out.

Cristina: Even got people who aren't religious.

Jack: Well, yeah, 100%.

Cristina: He's just child friendly.

Jack: He's the God who an atheist worships.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Holy. He figured out the system. Other gods are like, worship me. This guy's like, you don't have to do anything.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You know, it's just a fun game. Tell your children.

Cristina: And the first time he did it, he probably didn't say anything. Kids just got what they got. And then that created the fear.

Jack: Yes. Because it's like he made sure to not give some to the kids who were bad, even if the kid was.

Cristina: Cold or whatever it's supposed to be.

Jack: Exactly, exactly. So even if they were good, he had to pick at least, bare minimum, one who was the worst. Even if they were all saints. He had to be like, well, you stepped on a roach or something. Got to pick somebody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then he gave that kid the thing.

Cristina: Yeah. Like he's telling us what exactly gets us to the naughty or nice.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, he's just like, you messed up, so try better next time and I'll give you a gift. And then the other kids are like, whoa, whoa, hold up, hold up. We all got gifts. Well. And then they come up with the reason themselves. Right. Trying to rationalize it. Oh, well, this is what he did. It must have been that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This is what he meant by naughty.

Cristina: Yeah. And then, because we have no idea.

Jack: We have no clue what he's using to measure. There's nothing. Nothing exists. We're just. It's all projection.

Cristina: Yes. And that's what makes us so Worried in the end of the year because we have no idea.

Jack: This is the most genius part of this is if you leave a person to assume, they're going to assume the worst. It's the human anxiety. He didn't tell us what to fear.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Zeus f***** up. Jehovah f***** up. Odin f***** up. All the gods f***** up. They're like, don't do this thing. You don't do that thing. You're good.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Santa didn't specify s***. He's like, don't be bad. Well, everybody has a different moral compass. Holy crap.

Cristina: Like, what does that even mean?

Jack: So general.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He basically astrology the s*** out of Earth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's like, well, you're gonna do something good, you're gonna do something bad. Make sure that bad isn't so bad that it deserves to be punished. Like, what?

Cristina: What?

Jack: Wait, where does the bad bar begin? It's just bad. Wait, is the dirty thought bad?

Cristina: It could be if.

Jack: If I accidentally. Like, there's laws. What if I took a turn by accident because I didn't see that it said don't turn on red.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's a lie. Broke a law. Is that bad? Like, the number of crap that an individual could just think is bad, and.

Cristina: All he has to do is like, it. He doesn't even need to know now. Does it matter if we're. He knows if we're naughty or nice. Maybe he doesn't, because at this point, it doesn't matter.

Jack: He could give everybody gifts. He probably. This is why nobody gets coal anymore. Because it doesn't matter. There's like, oh, my God, I passed. I passed. Yeah, I did. Good enough. And then you're still gonna panic the rest of the year leading up to the next time. Am I gonna get something? Which is interesting, because the strongest push and this fat. This is fascinating right here. What all the other gods suggest. You move away from materialism and commit spiritually to them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Except for Santa needs materialism to be rampant.

Cristina: He's depending on. Yes.

Jack: He's depending on human addiction to stuff.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then he capitalizes on the fear of not getting stuff.

Cristina: Mm. That is so crazy.

Jack: He did everything opposite. He did not tell you the rules of the game. All the other gods did. He made sure to support capitalism way in there.

Cristina: He said to be naughty or nice. We don't even know. Maybe he doesn't know whether we're naughty or nice. He might not know.

Jack: He might not know s***. But whatever the case is, the other gods aren't f****** with him.

Cristina: Yeah. I mean, he's still a demigod for sure.

Jack: He's quite arguably. I think he does. Because whatever, man. That's. It's so complicated. Right. Because we don't know if he does know, but we know he hasn't been dealt with. Which some. That means something about him is so op that some other God hasn't off them and taken the post.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because that would be the logical step. Let me just get rid of them. Then I can ride this train. But that hasn't happened. So something about Santa is too overpowered.

Cristina: So it has to be that. Or like. That's the most likely.

Jack: That's the most likely. But if that's not the case. There is something going on.

Cristina: Something. Yeah.

Jack: That is sustain cemented. This creature, this demigod, as arguably the most powerful demigod.

Cristina: That's so crazy. Yeah. What? He is the most powerful demigod.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Whoa. And we don't even know what he could do.

Jack: We have no clue. We have no clue. That's another part. Because the question is, then, do the other gods know what he could do? Is the fear that they don't know?

Cristina: That they don't know.

Jack: That they don't know. He could, in theory be weaker than all. He's clearly cunning.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Quite genius.

Cristina: I mean, just telling us to be naughty. I mean, not to be naughty. But not telling us how he broke.

Jack: Every system all these other guys came up with.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're talking Jehovah and Zeus predate the crap out of this guy. He showed up and just did it. Did it. This is how you do it. P******. You know what you're doing. This is how you do it. What?

Cristina: I don't know. So he might not be stronger.

Jack: Not be. He's so smart. They have no idea, though. He's. If he's got no ability, if he's not a super mega ultra demigod, to the great that he seems to be.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He can definitely play the part.

Cristina: He can, man. He's got to be a demigod, though.

Jack: He has to be.

Cristina: That has to be the only way that's stopping him from being killed off.

Jack: This is. This is where I stand. Right. There's no freaking way. There's no way in h*** this thing came up and he wasn't at some point challenged by Zeus. That did not happen. I refuse to believe it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Zeus was the very first one to be like, imma f*** you up and lost. And that flagged every other.

Cristina: But I'm like, I don't know if God himself or, I don't know, the Christian God. Yeah, but Christians themselves try to fight Santa.

Jack: Yeah, but they don't fight him.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Ideologically arguing, it doesn't matter because all this is push forward the narrative even more.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Everything you do helps them.

Cristina: Yes, everything.

Jack: So when it comes to the gods, I. There's everybody. He challenges everybody. Zeus is egomaniac. He sees Santa coming up, he's like, I'm the king here. And then Santa gets all exaggerated and he's like, no, I'm gonna fight you. But then Zeus losing the fight is what told everybody else. F***. Well, s***, we ain't f****** with him.

Cristina: Wanna fight?

Jack: Yeah. Cuz who's. No matter what, it doesn't matter who else challenged Santa.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Zeus is stronger. So Zeus is the only person Santa would have to beat to tame the f*** out of everybody else.

Cristina: But he also has a smart. So is it possible that a God with a brain could have challenged him and like, I don't know, like some kind of chess. Godlike chess game?

Jack: Okay. The argument would be that it would have to be not. When I say Zeus's power, I don't literally mean like stronger or I can hit you with more lightning or anything.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In combat of some sort.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He lost.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so if there is a God who's stronger and he's the one who challenged. And not stronger, but smarter. He's the one who challenged Santa and then Zeus didn't challenge Santa, it's because whatever God challenged Santa and lost is already smarter than Zeus is strong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So basically whoever the top dog is challenged Santa because they usually challenge everybody else to maintain dominance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then lost. There's also no example of any God that rules over the planet other than Santa.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Everybody's regional.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Except Santa.

Cristina: That's very, very true. Like there's some that gotten close, but not.

Jack: Jehovah has a huge reach. He began small and kept expanding and kept expanding and kept expanding. But for the vast majority of most of his work, when he was establishing his Word. Yeah, those all focus in one place.

Cristina: But that's a different. Wait, but you talk about Jehovah from Judaism or Christianity.

Jack: Same guy.

Cristina: They're the same guy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I don't know if they're the same guy. I think of them as two different guys.

Jack: Oh, it's possible there is two different gods there, but we're talking about the same abilities for the most part. It's possible we're talking about twins. In that case, two demigods who were Twins. One is the crooked and one is not. And it's also a possibility that the story of Cain and Abel never happened. And that was a narrative about those two gods in their young days.

Cristina: Yeah. That might be it. I don't think the one God killed the other. I think one just stayed there while the other spread out everywhere else.

Jack: Could be. Yes, that's totally possible.

Cristina: And that's. But who knows?

Jack: Yeah, that's a very likely probability.

Cristina: Interesting. But Santa is the most powerful as far as we can.

Jack: He seems to be the most overpowered God of all the gods.

Cristina: Yes. That's so crazy.

Jack: It is pretty crazy. And the fact that he uses business to do it. He relies on capitalism and materialism.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To create fear. So indirectly, it's genius. Like, I'm end your life. No, he's the guy who create. He's basically a mosquito. Right?

Cristina: He's a mosquito.

Jack: Not even. Not even mosquito. He's a fruit fly. Think about a fruit fly. Right. There's nothing to fear about a fruit fly.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that tiny little bit of effect it does have is so annoying that it makes you behave accordingly. So it gets your ear and, like, it's not harming you.

Cristina: No.

Jack: It's just persistent enough that you will act on it, though it's insignificant. It will affect nothing in your life if you just ignore it. Yeah, but it's persistent enough that you couldn't ignore it even if you want to.

Cristina: He's like a fruit fly.

Jack: He's like a fruit fly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He's not forcing anything down your throat. We don't have to believe him if you don't want. He does not give a flying f***. He's not like, you got to worship me or believe him. He never did any of that. He didn't get anybody to write scriptures. He didn't care.

Cristina: No.

Jack: His plan was too solid just by not forcing it. Because if I try to force something on you, you're more likely to reject it because it's not your will.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But if I give you the option that you're more willing. You can believe in me if you want. I don't. You, in fact, don't believe in me. It's totally fine. Wait. No, no, no. But I like stuff.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You choose.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: It's genius. It's so genius. He's so far above the next best thing.

Cristina: Mm. He's the best thing. Wow.

Jack: And it really comes down to the one. The one question, which is, are there elves? If there are no elves, he is.

Cristina: Too overpowered Are there elves if there's no elves?

Jack: No. Are there elves if there's no elves, he's overpowered.

Cristina: Oh, okay. If there's no elf, if he's doing it by himself.

Jack: If he's doing it by himself, we know clearly why no God touches this guy. It's too one sided. They don't even know how he exists. Everywhere all at once, know everything all at the same time. How do you win?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: If he does have an army of elves that can get the job done. There are f*** tons of them. You don't need too much either. You can think some households have upwards of seven people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There are 8 billion people on earth. You had. If just one elf could hit four houses, you've drastically reduced the number of elves you need. You don't need billions of elves. You know, you can in fact bring this down to. If one elf can move quickly enough and in the time span of one hour hit 20 homes, then you subtract the number of houses by home by the number of elves. You, you have a couple of million elves doing work.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And assuming some of these elves, I.

Cristina: Don'T think it's a one hour job either. It's like eight hours I think.

Jack: Assume that some of these elves have the ability to self replicate or teleport from one spot to another. I'll teleport then you have a lot of things going on.

Cristina: Teleportation related to the shadow realm. Okay.

Jack: They can disappear in the shadow realm while inside your house. Take the shortcut in the shadow realm, which would be a second to them. If they understand the shadow room well enough, rephase in and they're in the next house. And this could be house after house after house. Five seconds here, five seconds there, five seconds there, five seconds there, five seconds there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Before long you knocked out a lot and you weren't even doing much.

Cristina: No. Yeah. You're just pretty much walking the whole time.

Jack: And if your presence are in the shadow realm, then you rephase with them already. You don't have to grab anything. You're just there with it, disappear. Grab the thing, bring pop the next place, drop it there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If there are elves.

Cristina: But there's no way to know.

Jack: There's no way to know. There's two. There's so much. He's too mysterious. At least the other gods have scripture. They are narcissists. They talk about themselves all the time. I think the difference here is that Santa Claus Claus. Santa Claus isn't a narcissist. He didn't make it about him. No, he made it about the stuff.

Cristina: That's why he's so above. He's just too smart.

Jack: Yeah, He's. He's playing 4D chess.

Cristina: Yes, that's exactly what's happening. But are there elves? That's the question.

Jack: That's the truly deciding question. If there are elves, then he has a couple of notches down. And maybe the all knowing is the reason that the other gods don't mess with them. But if there are no elves. Oh, and we just made up the. We threw the elves in there just to try to cope with how is it getting done?

Cristina: Yeah, but like.

Jack: And they don't exist. S***.

Cristina: S***.

Jack: First. First, you know everything that's overpowered. Second, you could be everywhere that's overpowered. But the third suggestion is the craziest one. You could just manifest s***.

Cristina: Yes, you could just.

Jack: Holy crap.

Cristina: I don't even know what God's f****** with you. Yeah.

Jack: Could you in theory just manifest the thing that would end that God?

Cristina: How?

Jack: What's the extent of your power?

Cristina: That's true. Oh, crap. What if that is happening? If no elves.

Jack: Right, if no elves. That's the case. If there are no elves, there is nothing more op. And we're talking by like, if he's at a hundred, the next best is like two.

Cristina: He reminds me of Deadpool. It's just like too powerful.

Jack: Yes. He's like, Deadpool is so overpowered. Like, how do you.

Cristina: How do you.

Jack: How's your. How are your abilities a thing?

Cristina: Yeah, it's almost the opposite of Deadpool's ability, isn't it? Of him bringing things into this reality. Deadpool just somehow leaves his own reality in a way.

Jack: Deadpool's complicated. He could just walk out of a panel.

Cristina: Yeah, so.

Jack: But he could also manifest random crap. Oh, a good example is when he was hanging out with Spider man and he pulled out a rocket launcher from his pocket. Like, this is just something Deadpool can casually do.

Cristina: So we know it's possible.

Jack: We know it's possible.

Cristina: Yeah, but he's a character.

Jack: Yeah, Deadpool's not real, but Santa is arguably real.

Cristina: And he having that power, that's just. That's too much.

Jack: You don't even need to know everything if that's your one trick. But the problem is if no elves and everything else must be true, but if somehow we can make it so that there's no elves and all your other powers don't count, your one and only power is manifesting whatever the h*** you want?

Cristina: I was. Still think he would need to know something about the child, though.

Jack: Well, no, I'm. I'm just talking about the power. I'm no longer talking about Santa Claus.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I'm saying if just this one power, minus everything else. He's not even delivering gifts anymore. You can just manifest whatever. You are still untouchable.

Cristina: Yeah. That sounds like the God that every God claims to be.

Jack: Yes, it's quite possible that Santa is the closest thing because he can make anything happen whenever he wants, in any location he wants and knows whatever, and he can personally be wherever that is. The closest thing is the closest thing to the perfect God all the other gods claim to be.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Not one of them has any part of that.

Cristina: They just lie about it pretty much.

Jack: While Santa has all the factors.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All knowing. Jehovah doesn't have it, Odin doesn't have it. Zeus doesn't have it. None of the Hindu gods have it. None of them have the ability. You can trick them. You can lie to them, be everywhere. None of them. None of them. They are all bound to where they are. And their ideologies must travel because they cannot.

Cristina: Mm. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Manifest. Just stuff out of nowhere. No, these gods are screwed. Following rules and junk. Otherwise they would just manifest a message in a letter in front of you. Now they gotta send somebody together. There. There's. There's leaps and bounds of superiority.

Cristina: Now you're saying he is the God man.

Jack: I began where he wasn't, but, like.

Cristina: It'S now he might be.

Jack: If there are no elves.

Cristina: If there are. No.

Jack: If there are no elves. If there are elves and they are the ones delivering and it isn't Santa. He's sort of the ringleader. And also the fairies are probably benefiting off of the adrenochrome somehow, or at least the fear. He somehow figured out how to give the fear. Because there's no blood.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So he's optimized fear and somehow the fairies are also getting something from it.

Cristina: Yes. That's what makes me think if they're real, he's not real. Like, maybe they're surviving off the stories and they're the ones.

Jack: Here's the thing. They don't need it.

Cristina: The adrenaline.

Jack: Fear. They don't need fear. Fairies can just go in and out of the shadow realm. Yeah, there is. There is one possibility. Because the thing is, gods do need the fear. Yes, that would make sense. That fits with Santa.

Cristina: Yes, that makes sense. Yeah.

Jack: Now there's no Santa. Then what's the next Option. They're not fairies.

Cristina: What are they?

Jack: They are creatures from the shadow realm. And some guy, probably St. Nick, inevitably got a ball rolling that he didn't even know he got rolling. He was like, well, you don't worship God and you're being rude to the other kids, so this year, I'm not going to. But if next year you make your behavior better, then I will personally give you a gift.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To commemorate that you've become better and you've followed the Christian path.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then that little bit of fear allowed at least one of these creatures to capitalize. And they say, oh, s***, hold on. Wait. How am I on this side? What's causing it? Okay, the kids are scared to not get stuff. And that allowed me whatever creature I might be to manifest because there's just enough for me. If I can Cap, maybe all my people can come here.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: So if not Santa Claus, then it could be the story of how an entire race of creatures.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: From the shadow realm have established their home in the Arctic.

Cristina: That is so crazy. I could totally be it too. They don't really need anything. They just need that story. And then they survive off of that story.

Jack: Every year.

Cristina: Every year.

Jack: Although they do have to actually do the work on that day.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Because it needs to self perpetuate. So I need to do something to keep the narrative moving forward.

Cristina: Do they need to know everything about the child? No, they just need gifts.

Jack: Yeah. They somehow, again, nobody's getting hurt. I'm sure that if no Santa Claus and at least the creature that came through got in contact with same neck. And he's like, maybe we can work together. We're not. We promise you will not harm anything. We're gonna do it your way. But this might get us out of whatever hellhole we already live in.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We'll go when we'll bother. Nobody will disappear. We just help us. You help us, we help you. Everybody wins. Everybody's gonna be a good person. Everybody wants stuff. We can make stuff. We can manifest stuff. It doesn't matter. We don't care about stuff. Stuff doesn't matter to us. Just a lot of us just let us escape the hellhole that is a shadow realm with your help. They just need to fear a little.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Little.

Cristina: And they stay here.

Jack: Yeah. We could stay here. And you'll have people following your Christian God. Because there'll be fear. They want to do the good thing. And inevitably, in this case, Zeus and Odin and the gods from India and all these gods from every other possible Location benefit a little too. Because they just need a little. Yeah, A little for each. And then they can manifest and stay. And it's so self perpetuating that they can just live here.

Cristina: Now that is interesting. They must be really small or something. Like they really don't need any. They or they need a little bit just to be here all year. That's interesting.

Jack: So I guess those are two options.

Cristina: Either they could be the fruit flies.

Jack: Yeah. If no elves, then op Santa, then God.

Cristina: Santa.

Jack: Yeah, actual. Actual God. Not demi, just God. Actual God, like likely created everything Santa. If that's not the case, then elves and then some mix between the two are what's doing everything. But if no Santa, then clever collaboration between St. Nick and some sort of creature from the shadow realm that we're not familiar with. And if that's the case, I don't like that we don't know about a creature from the shadow realm. And we should definitely investigate.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Okay. I don't know how. I mean, we know where they live.

Jack: Just go to the Arctic, go to the North Pole, find that s***.

Cristina: Yes. And we know that they're not dangerous. We know they have night, but we don't know. Like if you go into their territory, it's a whole different story because they can't.

Jack: It can't be proven that they exist. Part of it is the mystery. So chances are whatever goes there doesn't come back. But don't worry, they might have an army.

Cristina: We have an army too. Okay. Yeah. So it'll take our.

Jack: This is what it is. We'll figure it out.

Cristina: Okay, that's crazy.

Jack: Obviously I don't want to get over there and find out that. But if Santa Claus is up, he also doesn't care. He'll be like, whatever, dude. Like, yeah, I'm real. Yeah, tell people.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess like that would just help him.

Jack: So it doesn't matter if just whatever creatures is there. They don't want us to find out.

Cristina: No.

Jack: But if Santa Claus is there, whether with elves or without, you don't give a crap. He's like, yeah, let him come in, it's fine.

Cristina: Ah, interesting.

Jack: It's fine. Let them. Once they leave, they'll tell. Do they want to take pictures? I'm right here. Let everybody know.

Cristina: Yes, I want to take a selfie with Santa.

Jack: Yeah, probably don't give a crap. That's why he loves people imitating him. Every other God is like, don't follow false prophets. Santa's like, s***, let people put him in every mall. F*** It.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Convince everybody early.

Cristina: That's so crazy. It works for him. Everything that every gods convince, like, don't do this.

Jack: He does.

Cristina: He does.

Jack: It works.

Cristina: It works. He's figured it out by just breaking all their rules.

Jack: Yes. Yes. He's playing 4D chess. He gets it. He got. Anyways, that's pretty much where we're at. Well, Santa being the most op God.

Cristina: Of all time, he really is. What?

Jack: Yeah. There's no God like him.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And we're definitely out of time. But, like, look, anybody listening to this? This isn't our first, you know, around the park with freaking God. Find all the God Santa. I mean. Yeah, Santa. So find all the Santa Episodes and start at the back so you can work your way forward seeing how we get informed on this.

Cristina: And then listen to this episode again.

Jack: Yeah. Once you have all that information, you can hear this one again and be like, whoa.

Cristina: Yes. What fun Christmas activity.

Jack: Yeah. I think the first time we mentioned Santa Claus was with Dave and talking about the Matrix.

Cristina: That is very complicated.

Jack: Yeah. It got real crazy.

Cristina: How did the Matrix.

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Dave episodes are weird.

Cristina: Yeah. Well, if you can find Santa there, go find him.

Jack: Yeah. I mean, there's probably a Santa Claus in the Matrix. The metaverse is gonna. That's the first place Santa is gonna insert himself. The metaverse. Because now I don't have to like it. Pass that through the tech that the kids are using.

Cristina: It's already there.

Jack: Yeah, he's probably one of the first.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He invented the metaverse just to streamline this.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, go find all those episodes, listen to them in order or watch them, you know, watch sound waves go up and down or whatever it is you cool kids do or whatever. And you can find all that stuff on the official website atgreatthoughts.info, or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast, you know, and you can.

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Cristina: The wokest. Let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, incredibly powerful. Tell people about the show. This is a Christmas episode so that people can listen to it. So today.

Cristina: Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.

Jack: And you know, this. This is. This is for you guys to listen to on your day, waiting for your family to arrive with the gifts. I don't really f****** know. How Christmas works. I'm going off of the movies. Like, the family shows up because there's a family celebrating in their house at the 12 o'. Clock. And then there's the family. They're like extended family. Uncles and grandma come the next day and show up at the house and give the kids gifts and stuff. And it's a bigger family event because the. The Christmas Eve is private and collected while Christmas Day is like a bunch of people in one house or something. So that's what I think. Anyways, regardless of how you celebrate, make sure to play this. Show your family the truth about Santa. Don't let the kids listen I curse too much. Or show the kids how to curse. F*** it. They're gonna learn eventually. Might as well learn and learn how to use it in a fun, playful.

Cristina: Way and a plum. Enough fun.

Jack: Yeah, use it for emphasis, not for insult.

Cristina: Ah, okay. That sounds.

Jack: I'll be like, f*** you. But I will be like, what the f***? You know? This shows contextual examples.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And yeah, also you can find me on stereo, having conversations, usually trolling, getting on people's nerves and showing them the.

Cristina: Way, the light the way. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Like who and Lucifer matchup?

Jack: I don't know, maybe Lucifer and Zeus.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: But Zeus is the God of gods.

Cristina: So that would be God, wouldn't it?

Jack: I don't know. Because Zeus himself is a demigod. You can kill Zeus?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I also do believe you can kill Jehovah.

Cristina: So then what does that make him?

Jack: That makes him a demigod. Okay, I think in. How do I put it? In Greek mythology, God. God is beyond Zeus. Zeus isn't the top of the chain. He's the top of Olympus.

Cristina: Yeah, but his. The top top is his dad or something.

Jack: There's like a Titan. But Titans aren't gods. No, Titans are some other thing that it could easily be like whipped around by God.

Cristina: But those are his parents.

Jack: Yes, his parents are Titans. And there is something above the Titans. That is the all powerful God.

Cristina: Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Colazzo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts info, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 154: Is Gender A Fact

Is Gender a Fact? Where does gender come from? Who has a right to speak for transgender people? Is Toxic Feminism the same as functional Feminism? The duo jump into the topic of gender, with Jack on a stream of consciousness rant about toxic feminism and how its abused to enforce racist ideology and sexist perspectives in society.

Rambling 154: Is Gender A Fact

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Ben Shapiro
  • Gender vs Sex
  • Gender is Based on Sex
  • Female Supremacist
  • Transgender Issues
  • Gender Roles
  • Gender is Cultural
  • Labels are the Problem
  • Hispanics and Blacks are LGBT+?
  • Intention Matters

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody to sit next to you and get ready for the h*** of a ride that you're about to go on. And hopefully, if you are a person who stands firmly on the political right, then you choose somebody from the political left. And if you're politically left, you choose somebody on the political right so that we can choose truly dive in.

Cristina: The people in the middle.

Jack: F*** them.

Cristina: Aww.

Jack: They don't matter.

Cristina: They don't matter. This episode. Okay?

Jack: They don't matter, people, because centrists who identify as centrist on all topics are ridiculous. Because there's just some topics that doesn't make sense.

Cristina: That doesn't make sense.

Jack: Like, you know, George Floyd wasn't armed and, like, he was killed after he was screaming that he couldn't breathe and at some point started hallucinating and seeing his mother. Well, no, I'm in the center of the problem, you know, because if both sides have a solid argument, like, mmm, maybe this is the wrong time to be in the middle, because one side of this is ridiculous.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But then other times, it's like, well, Trump is a hero. No, he's a monster. Well, that's a centrist position to take. He. He did good. He did bad.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: People who are objectively at all times centrist, regardless of what's confronted. Well, there's always. No, not always.

Cristina: Not always.

Jack: Not always. A lot of the time there's a clear cut way, but not always.

Cristina: But sometimes we could make that clear cut way.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, we can. We can point towards the middle and be like, this is how you cut right between the two points.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which we often do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But probably not today, because today we got the. The big topic. We got the problem topic. The one that gets us canceled.

Cristina: This is the one. I thought the last one was the one. This is the one, though.

Jack: This is the one that gets us canceled.

Cristina: Yeah, Yeah.

Jack: I mean, fair enough. I have no idea how we haven't been canceled yet. Maybe somebody's trying to cancel Us, but, like, we don't pay attention to social media, so we don't respond to anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, maybe somebody's trying to cancel us, but this is an independent private company that does whatever the f*** it wants and doesn't rely on anybody's money because it's f****** internally funded. So, like, the f*** are you going to do? Steal our bank account information and f****** get that canceled? I don't know, bro. I don't know what to tell you if you're trying to cancel us, other than I'm not paying attention. So I'm sorry.

Cristina: Yeah, like.

Jack: Like, I wish I would have been paying attention so you could have canceled me and got in your way, I guess.

Cristina: You want to be canceled.

Jack: I want everybody to have the best outcome for their lives. And if they've been trying to cancel us and it has failed because we don't have anybody paying attention to the social media other than posting s***, and we don't respond to emails, we don't, like, interact with this show outside of making it, then, like. Like, I. I don't know what to tell you guys. Like, I'm sorry.

Cristina: Try harder.

Jack: Try harder. Like, I don't know, bro. Like, people get death threats all the time, and it's like, if you sent us death threats, I'd have no f****** clue. There'd be no way for me to know because I haven't seen an email in, like, seven years.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So, like, where are you sending this to?

Cristina: They're mailing it to the Illuminati headquarters, I guess. I think they have address. I'm sure there' physical place.

Jack: There's probably some, like, these Instagram people who claim to be from the.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: They probably got some address.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, hey, if you want to.

Cristina: Join the Illuminator, your email is over there.

Jack: Right. They're just like, what the is it gonna do if we don't send it to him? Nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then I never see it. It's a problem. It's hard to cancel us because we don't care enough. Yeah, like, what are you gonna do? Destroy our livelihood? Does it seem like I have a life you gonna destroy? I'm trapped in this room with a ghost in the system. We're stuck here until there's some sort of mission to do or some crap I don't even know, man.

Cristina: But we still work like humans, right? Like, we still need the bathroom. We still need to eat.

Jack: Never thought about it.

Cristina: We definitely still need water.

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Like, we're still Pretty human. Even though we're clones.

Jack: Maybe. But look, today is the big one. Today is the one that's gonna get us canceled. Maybe. Probably not. Let's be real. It doesn't matter what you guys think. But today we're discussing gender. This was the. The most intentional subject thus far because I was just listening to Ben Shapiro talk about it, and I was like, s***, you got a point, he's got point. F***. I'm usually like, look, I. I understand the division of sex and gender, and I agree with it. They are two different things. But to say one isn't based on the other is a f****** problem. That's where the lie comes in.

Cristina: That's where the lie comes in.

Jack: That's where the lie comes in. Because, yes, we constructed gender.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We constructed it based. Based on sex.

Cristina: On something else.

Jack: Yeah, that's the problem. And now that used to be my stance, that sex and gender are tied together, even if I'm aware of the difference of gender from sex. And I completely agree that those are two different things. And I forgot that they're connected in continuously having to defend against people who exclusively say they're the same thing, because that's wrong too. They're not the same thing. One is based on the other.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But they're not the same thing. There are two different words because they are two different things.

Cristina: But how has this changed what you thought?

Jack: Well, I. It didn't. It just sent me back to what I was thinking before because I forgot about it. And continuously defending against people who have no idea what the difference between sex and gender is, and assuming they're the same thing, me having to continuously reinforce the fact that they're not the same thing. I forgot the link that one is based on the other, because I'm like, this is why they're different. This is why they're different. This over and over and over and over to the point that I forgot why they're the same. Or not forgot, but I forgot that they're the same in the same way. That they're different.

Cristina: And why is that important, though?

Jack: Because it. We have two camps of thought right now, and it is. Isn't even a political difference, because we have, for example, Ben Shapiro and Dave Chappelle, who come from political opposites. One is a leftist Democratic progressive, and the other is a conservative Republican right wing follower. And so we got these two people agreeing on gender being based on sex.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they're not saying by any means that gender is sex. They agree there's a difference, but they are also stating that gender is based on sex. And then the trans defenders get riled up. Now I have. The reason I use trans defenders is because of a simple, very clear detail.

Cristina: What makes them different from just a regular trans.

Jack: Yeah, my trans friends agree with my point of view. Not the trans defenders, who are usually these psychotic women who claim to be feminists and really aren't. They're just like this female superiority people. They got the superiority complex of, well, I should have a right man. I was having a conversation with this lady, right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And we were actually talking about trans things or whatever.

Cristina: She's a trans defender.

Jack: She's a trans offender. She claims to be a feminist. And I explained to her what a female supremacist is, which is a female who believes that her voice supersedes everybody's voice, no matter what the case might be, rather than a feminist who believes that female and men are equal, the men and women are equal, or I guess females and males are equal. Female supremacist believes that objectively, females should, like they do, already have the answer for everything. And in this conversation, she proceeds to say, well, I don't listen to cisgendered people about trans issues. I only listen to LGBT members. To which I proceeded to say, well, I don't listen to the opinions of anybody who isn't transgender on gender issues because they have no personal experience to make any judgment call at all. And she got so f****** offended that I told her, you're not trans to make choices or voice any trans beliefs. You don't have the experience. You don't know what it is to be treated like s***, to fear for your life because of simply, you're. You feel a different way, and people just don't understand that.

Cristina: But I don't. Like, what is exactly the difference between what you said to her and what she said to you?

Jack: In what she said to me, she believes she does get to speak.

Cristina: Okay, she's speaking.

Jack: She's saying all gay people speak for trans people.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But it's like, it's not the same thing. Some trans people are just straight.

Cristina: Yeah, they're just straight.

Jack: So what the f*** are you talking about?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Should we even say they're part of lgbt? If she feels woman and she likes men. If she feels woman and she likes men, that's just a straight woman.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So you're not listening to her opinion either?

Cristina: Oh, did you ask that? No.

Jack: Her argument was stupid to begin with. It's like, I only listened to. Well, LGBT members aren't just Objectively, all trans people. Yeah, only trans people get to speak for trans rights and issues and ideas and philosophies. And you are not trans. And you don't get to make that call. And I don't give a how offended you get. I don't give a how bothered you get. I don't give a if you try to cancel me because you don't get a say. I don't get a say? You are right. Also, you don't get a say. Nobody but the trans people get to say how the trans people feel. If a trans person, like some of my personal trans friends, I. I have a questionable amount of gay friends and trans friends. I get it. It's like, oh, man, you sure you're not leaning somewhere? It's like, I get that it's a questionable amount of people in my circle who are not straight necessarily, but they side with my. At least the trans people side with my belief that, yeah, one is based on the other. Because the argument that they make that I also side with is, if there is no difference between man and woman, why would I say I feel like a woman if I was born male? It's like, yeah, I see where the f*** you're coming from. You're right. You're right. It totally makes sense. I get your f****** argument. That makes perfect sense to me that there has to be a difference.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And thus it's based in something that you are claiming. Woman, because woman is tied to female.

Cristina: Yes. And someone is saying that they're not the same.

Jack: The trans offenders are saying that these concepts are not tied together at all. But females do female do womenly things, and then a trans person who claims to be woman does things that females that claim to be women do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Thus you've just subscribed to the female gender role of woman. My trans friends agree with this, which is, I feel like a woman because I do not identify with feeling like a man. And so I do things that females would do. And, like, okay, I get your idea. But then who the f*** are these other people out here who are saying some other s*** contrary to you? Who's living the experience?

Jack: And it's like, I don't. Who. Who the f*** are these people? They're not you. You're the f****** one telling me what you believe, and you're living it. So why the f*** are they the ones that are being really loud and making the statements that everybody else is listening to that's objectively wrong if they're not living the experience? The argument here Is trans. People who subscribe to either gender of female or male or male, or I guess not gender, but of woman and man are claiming that female and male.

Cristina: Are real things, are connected to male and woman.

Jack: To man and woman. Yeah, okay, they're saying that sex and gender are related. Anybody who isn't subscribing to those two.

Cristina: People change their sex to match their gender.

Jack: Because if it was just I claim I'm a woman, but I do all things that male does. Now we have a different ideology. You're complicated in a different way. You don't apply to what we're talking about. But if you are born male and you identify woman and then you put on heels and a dress, then you're doing things that a female that would claim to be woman would do. You're already creating the line that says woman, female.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And again, I'm not in any way saying that this is exclusively tied together. Somebody who's gender binary. You don't fall f****** anywhere, bro. A male who identifies as woman and continues to dress as male and behave as male and do only male things, but continues to identify as woman. You also don't fall under this umbrella.

Cristina: And vice versa, who are constantly changing what they feel.

Jack: The gender fluid people.

Cristina: Oh, is that what that is?

Jack: Okay, well then this is a different thing that kind of sides with the original argument that, yes, male and female are associated with man and woman because their fluidity tends to be associated. Yes, with the role. Okay, so, you know, I like my girly moments. Well, what do you mean? Well, you know, I like dresses and make them look so female things is where you like you jumping over there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's fine to have that and there are people who don't fall under it. But to say they are exclusively not the same thing. You are denying somebody's whole experience just because you want your voice to be loud.

Cristina: That's always the problem.

Jack: Yeah, and now you're contradicting your entire f****** argument because you want to say, don't be exclusionary, but you are the one excluding this person's exact opinion because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions and your existing narrative.

Cristina: Yes, okay, yes, it's a pretty big problem. It's a big problem. But how do you fix that? I don't know.

Jack: The problem is that it exists. I don't know how we would approach fixing it other than forms of education probably done by trans people rather than the people who are trans defenders, like female supremacists, who for whatever reason believe they get to say anything and are right just because they screamed it at somebody.

Cristina: What about the doctors that prove. Whatever. Whatever. Are they also.

Jack: Well, no, doctors that prove that gender and sex aren't related are proving that the psychology of gender isn't inherently a default based on the sex. But that doesn't mean the gender role isn't tied to the sex. Okay, so you can say, like, okay, just because you're male doesn't mean you are man. That's correct. You are. You are totally right. That is a correct statement. That is not by default. Now, it could mean that, but it could not mean that. Yes, fine. That's totally true. Now, to say that the gender, man. Isn't based on the sex male and masculinity and strong work and earning the bread and, you know, all these stupid machista bullshit things, that would be a lie because it is based on it. One is immediately reflected on the other. Now, gender requires sex to establish itself, but sex does not require gender to establish itself.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So, like, gender is psychological but based on biology. It isn't biological.

Cristina: A human thing. Right.

Jack: Gender is a human construct. Yes, but we constructed it based on sex.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm like, Like, you know, the animals are just. It's all sex related.

Jack: Yes. That's biology.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes. So sex is your sexual organs.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And your crows. What is it? Your chromosome alignment.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So XX and xy, you know, male, female. And those are scientific. And you cannot argue them and you cannot fight them.

Cristina: And gender is based on it, but is less scientific.

Jack: Gender is psychological.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it's not biological. They're both scientific.

Cristina: They're scientific.

Jack: Yes, because you can detect the female characteristics inside of a person, determine that they're more likely to identify as a woman because there is psychology behind it. Now, that does not tie them to their sex, but what they'll be identifying is. Has been based on sex.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So they're more likely to wear a skirt and they're more likely to speak with a lisp at the end. And they're more likely to like these.

Cristina: Kinds of things because of their sex or because of.

Jack: Because of their gender, which you could determine psychologically through evaluations. And things that there are patterns. Actually, with brain scans, you could tell that there are differences between like. Again, they're not connected. One is just based on the other. But the things that culturally we have built around them have tied woman, the female, and man to male.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And I know people are gonna struggle understanding what I am saying, and I'll quickly try to elaborate again. Here, 20 minutes in, which is sex is male organ, female organ, and which chromosomes you have, XX or xy. Gender is a role. You're choosing how you self identify and how you perceive yourself. It's a subjective experience, it's not an objective fact. So you can be born male and there's a likely probability, the highest probability is that you're going to be also man.

Cristina: Also.

Jack: Those are not necessarily fact. You could be born man, you could be born male and be a woman.

Cristina: And in different cultures and different societies, what we would, our gender roles are a little different. They're not all exactly the same.

Jack: Yes. Gender roles are entirely cultural.

Cristina: Yeah. So like you might feel one way here, but if you want to live somewhere else, would it change? Would it affect at all?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: How you feel about yourself.

Jack: It's very interesting. Right, because there are different, I guess, dichotomies, different ways of approaching the same idea. There are cultures where the women are the bread earners and the men stay home and handle their business that way. And now that is to say that they're the role of a man is being at home.

Cristina: So what would that change? That's, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because somebody over here might be like, I'm a man, have been born female and then travel to those places and realize, well, I guess by these standards I'm female or I'm a woman. By these standards, I'm a woman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So now that's another problem. We get tied up on the words.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because what you're saying is the role, not the name we gave the role. So it should be like we could divide it easily and say caretaker, caretaker. Well, I'm a caretaker regardless of how it looks. So now we've stripped it away from the gender titles we've given and say I'm a caretaker. I'm a person who likes to stay home and do these things. And I like the color pink and I like makeup and I like dresses. And it's like we don't have to associate that with female.

Cristina: We don't, but for some reason we do.

Jack: Yeah. Not only that, we mix. We fail to mix a bunch of these ideologies, which is another problem. This is where the, the right Republican, conservative fail at this, which is the mix matching, which the left seems pretty good at doing.

Cristina: What's the mix matching?

Jack: Think of the example I gave of I like to be a caretaker, I like makeup, I like dresses, I like the color pink. But what stops somebody from being, I like to earn the money, I like the Color pink. I like to lift weights and I like football. But I also like dresses.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So the mix matching of these things is problematic for the conservative. Right. Because they believe. Well, no, there is one thing that applies straight across the board.

Cristina: Yes. Which is wrong.

Jack: Which is wrong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Again, one doesn't mean the other. It's just based on the other.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the beginning blocks the foundation, if we will. For woman is pink, is dresses, is caretaker.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that doesn't mean that it would apply to everyone. It would apply to everybody and that it necessitates those things to be a woman. Yeah, it's just what it was based on. Now, the argument would be because it is based on it, if you are missing enough of them, you cannot identify as woman. Honestly. Because the concept, the gender of woman is itself based on female. It's a gender role for asex.

Cristina: But how would you like, you're gonna have a bunch of points and you gotta look at them and like, oh, you can 60%.

Jack: If you are 51% woman, then you are a woman. But if you are 49% woman, you are a man.

Cristina: That's too much.

Jack: Well, the argument would be that it is based on the sex. It's a role that was based on the established position. The roles of a gender is a role.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or gender has roles.

Cristina: That's why the word gender fluid is a thing. So that it's because it's too complicated to say you want to be one or another. If you feeling you like both sides.

Jack: Why possible gender fluid is so in the middle, it's hard to tell where you land.

Cristina: Okay. So it's not even 60, 40.

Jack: And there's also non binary and non binary, which would. Now my question is. Well, no, here's a problem. Gender fluid is a problem because gender fluid is a person that believes they can dive into woman, then exit woman and dive into man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they might feel like one at one time and feel like one at the other.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But they're subscribing to the idea that woman is tied to female.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And man is tied the male. While somebody who's gender non binary is actually the true only person able to fight for that not existing. Because they feel like it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: Because it doesn't make sense.

Jack: Because it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: It really doesn't. I don't think it makes sense. Like it doesn't make sense that we have to stick to any role. Why can't we just go between rows and not label ourselves anything that is the other problem. Labeling is really the problem.

Jack: Labeling is the problem. This is the problem we've always had in all of time.

Cristina: Because we love labels.

Jack: We love labels. We love labels. But there's no point to it.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why can't you be a male who loves dresses?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Why must you now identify as a woman?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Well, maybe you just like dresses.

Cristina: You don't need to be.

Jack: Yeah, you don't need to be anything. Just like what you like and don't label it. Because labels are the problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Labels are 100% the problem. We are.

Cristina: We're stressing about labels.

Jack: We're stressing about labels. This is the exact problem that science has with religion. Right. They have exactly the same arguments, but they label one science, okay. And they label the other religion. But you're still talking about the beginning. You're still talking about space coming to be and the skies coming to be and then life coming to be. You're just what we call it scripture. Well, we call it. It's the science journals, but it's like you both have literal text written by somebody way before you who's telling you what to believe. It's the same idea. You have labels that are making your lives h*** when you're both talking about the same thing.

Cristina: There are people who. Stressing out about these labels. I seen people and read about people who just. They can't. They don't like, they question themselves all the time. They're stressing about these labels of giving themselves the right labels. Like, don't worry about it.

Jack: Yeah, don't worry about it.

Cristina: Just be whoever you are.

Jack: Yeah, be you. Without having to give it a name. Why must you give what you are a name?

Cristina: Because that's just too complicated. Especially if you do feel like you're changing between different, I don't know, genders. Genders. But maybe you're not. You're just being you.

Jack: Maybe you're just being you. Because, look, gender is a construct, but you don't have to subscribe to it. Yes, and it is based on sex, but you don't have to subscribe to it. And there are attributes of being a woman that differentiate from being a man. And those are exclusively tied to the origin story of male and female. They have no other origin. And you cannot debate the beginning and what they are based on and the foundation. But also, you don't have to describe the s***.

Cristina: Let's abandon it.

Jack: Yes, you can abandon. Because the problem is in creating this gender spectrum, all you've done is complicate the fact that gender doesn't need to f****** exist.

Cristina: Yes, we have sexes. Let's keep that.

Jack: Yeah, Just keep the sex and ignore the gender. You do not need gender. Well, I have the male organ and Ima. No, shut the f*** up. You can love whoever you want. Dress however you want, like whatever you want. Do whatever you want. Shut the f*** up about what comes at the end of that sentence. You're just human.

Cristina: You're just human. And if you need surgery, get the surgery.

Jack: Get the surgery.

Cristina: Just. And now you're just person that you are.

Jack: Now you're just male with a v*****.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Who gives a s***? Because we're not labeled. Well. Well, you're a male with a v*****. You're a male with a v*****. Congratulations. Good for you. We're not deciding that you are anything. You're just male with a v*****.

Cristina: Yes. Does that mean everyone could go back to he and she, or are we still keeping all the other stuff? Is that the same thing? That's part of the gender, Right?

Jack: That's part of gender. But I think that one's stupid because we're f****** up language. We are struggling to communicate because that's just more list. It's a whole other list problem. We should go back to just he and she.

Cristina: Whatever you like. If you like being a she and you look like a he, who cares? Yes. Okay, we'll call you.

Jack: He just picked and be clear about it. And you're gonna have to reinforce it consistently until it's reinforced by so many people in so many directions that we're used to just being like, well, if he looks male, it doesn't matter.

Cristina: Let me ask and find out, but just don't. But the problem, though, is the people that feel like they're changing from he to she, then is also.

Jack: No, those people need to stop because that is one. That is an issue. That is an issue. Because you're making it difficult for anybody to communicate with you.

Cristina: Yes. It's too stressful. Yes. For everyone around you.

Jack: No, no, no. Because. No, no. That's the stupid reason. That's a ridiculous reason to say it's too stressful for everybody around you. Because what if it's stressful for you to not be called those things? Where would you decide who.

Cristina: Okay, yes, that's true.

Jack: But you get my point. You can't just be like, well, what do they do? They just need to stop on the account that it's complex. It's not about. We're stressing them out. It's the fact that you've cut out the ability to communicate with you yourself. Yeah, and you're b******* about it.

Cristina: Well, you made the problem, so what do you do?

Jack: Well, you made the problem and then you're whining about the problem existing. There's nothing we. Could you just stop and pick something. It doesn't. I get how it sounds. Oh, it's so f****** ignorant. Pick a thing. But what about the flu? The problem is, if we're trying to talk to you, how do we know where the f*** you stand on any given day? Well, you f******. Today I was a. Well, I didn't f****** know because yesterday you were a he and today you're a she. So unless you're gonna stop me at the beginning of every sentence and tell me, well, today I'm a. Okay, good, then that's up to you. In that case, if you're gonna be switching back and forth, any person you talk to immediately, you better open up with your f******.

Cristina: I think there are people who do that.

Jack: That makes perfect sense.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And for people who interact on social media, great. She, her, him, that, whatever. You do that. But like have a f****** name tag that says it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, you want to go into that deep end, Have a f****** name tag. Otherwise, how do we know in order to address you according to whatever you're feeling at this moment? We're not psychic. And you can't punish people and try to cancel people about s*** they don't know based on choices you're f****** making that are changing every couple of minutes. That's unrealistic. You gotta come down to earth and be like, if you're gonna be switching your s***, then you better be addressing everybody so that they know before they say anything.

Cristina: Yeah, don't make it easier for yourself and everyone else, cuz you're gonna stress out if they say the wrong thing. So not. Why not just correct them beforehand?

Jack: Yeah, 100%. It's a problem that's fixable.

Cristina: Mm, mm. Well, but too much list, man.

Jack: It is. We label too much things, it is a f****** problem. That's the same. That's how we ended up with the whole f****** issue of countries. Right? Well, this is this place and this is that place. Wait, but like, that doesn't make sense. This dirt connects everywhere. Yeah, there's no like, real line. You just made one f****** up and labeled both sides of it.

Cristina: Like, how do we make the continents? Where do we draw those lines?

Jack: Yeah, where'd we draw those lines? We just decided this s*** means this S***. And that s*** doesn't. Yeah, okay, but like, we are just talking Earth, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's the problem here. Well, male, female, him, her, he, she, them, they. I'm a man, I'm a woman, I'm a they, I'm a n, I'm a demon. And it's like, okay, bro, but look, we're still just talking about Earth though, right?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: It's like, yeah, I guess so. But I want to go by. No, no, no. I don't give a s***. I'm calling you Earth.

Cristina: We're gonna just.

Jack: You're just f****** Earth, bro. What the f*** do you mean? Africa? Australia. No, no, no. Shut the f*** up. Earth.

Cristina: Earth, Earth.

Jack: You're an earthling, bro. Well, I'm a straight. You not f****** out. That's made up all of it. So you're earthling. The fact is, you're an earthling.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's nothing else you can decide about that. That's the fact of the matter. You're f****** earthling.

Cristina: Yes. That'll make things less stressful.

Jack: Yeah, it's not about stress. Again, anything is stressful to anyone. We can't make decisions because that's an emotional decision.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Making things about what's stressful. Oh, you continue to state stress, but like, that's the emotional choice that got us where we are. Because it's stressful for me to not be called that. It's like, then f***. Okay, I guess we will cut based on stress levels. Well, I guess we will call you f****** him, she, them, they, it, whatever, you know, like, no, we can't make choices based on emotion.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Alright, that is the problem. F*** your emotion. Objective truth. Regardless of what the f*** you think and feel, what is the objective? Shared information. And then what? The rest of it can go f*** itself.

Cristina: Yes, that sounds.

Jack: And again, this comes right back to my own trans friends and my question still lingers is who the f*** are these other people? Because the trans people I know having these experiences are subscribing to the roles of these genders because they feel that that aligns with them, which means that there's a f****** gender role based on a sex and they agree with it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's the non trans people who have an issue with it because they don't think there's gender because they don't understand it.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're trying to pretend they do.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because the other problem is, again, we've established labels are an issue.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: The biggest issue, the conglomerate of lgbtq, X, W, X, Y, And Z. Oh.

Cristina: The original labeling thing.

Jack: Because they believe. Well, trans people are part of lgbtq. I'm bi. I'm part of lgbt. We're the same. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't. Don't do that. You're wrong. Very, very wrong. You're not even a little the same. You got no crossing lines other than the fact that you fall under the Alphabet people. That's it. And who decided who falls under the Alphabet people?

Cristina: Why do we put them all in the same group in the first place?

Jack: Yeah, it's weird, because the only people who fall there is anybody who's not, by default, straight. If you're not cis, then you are lgbt. Those are the only two sides.

Cristina: Well, if you look at the upgraded version, if you're Hispanic or you're black, you're also part of the Alphabet. You're now part of that group.

Jack: I don't understand how that works.

Cristina: I don't know. Now it's everyone but who isn't white.

Jack: No, that's ridiculous. And that doesn't make any f****** sense. And I'm 100% sure that was designed by a female supremacist.

Cristina: And. Yes, but that's. That's the thing.

Jack: Yeah, 100% designed by a female supremacist. And regardless of what your sex or gender or belief is, if you're female supremacist, you are no different than the CIS white males you are accusing because you are approaching it like a N***. Yes, my belief is all that matters. And the rest of you can go f*** themselves is the entire belief of a female supremacist.

Cristina: There's a lot of supremacists happening.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Because of this labeling problem. Well, maybe not because of that, but.

Jack: One of my main complaints on Earth is that the Me Too movement was important. It mattered. But who f***** it up? Female supremacist. The race issue is f****** important. And there are a lot of issues about race, and there's a lot of. In this country, there's. In the world, but there's a lot in this country. But who f**** it up? Female supremacist. How do they f*** it up? My. I know people from different cultures and races who don't get offended by the same things that female supremacists do about them because they can take a joke. I have black friends. I have Hispanic friends. I myself am racially ambiguous as f***.

Cristina: No. People from around the world.

Jack: Yeah. I literally know people from across the World. My whole thing is people, you know, I know people from across the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they're all okay with things that people say so long as the intention behind what they're saying makes sense. Female supremacists try to control what you're saying, regardless of what you mean by it. Yes, that is a problem.

Cristina: Is that the right word, though?

Jack: What, a female supremacist?

Cristina: Female supremacist, yeah.

Jack: The problem is that it tends to be these very specific. There are quite a lot of people who aren't female who are from different genders and whatever, but it seems to be primarily females. Fat, white females, usually with some kind of colored hair and identifying some confusing gender. And they're not trans. They're not, like, transitioning into anything else. They just don't want to be identified by a certain thing. But they'll still be, like, in a dress and still be dating a guy and be like, well, that's offensive. It's like, wait, but the black guy that was told to think it's funny people, There's a lot of them who are. It's usually online people in reality don't behave this f****** way.

Cristina: These might not be real people. These might be avatar, like, fake, like trolls using the same person.

Jack: No, no, no. It's many, many different people who have the same exact. Yeah, no, you haven't seen these. It started with Dave Chappelle, but it's. The people have made these collages of all these accounts, and they all look alike. They all look alike. And it goes around the Internet, people just like. You know, every time a new one joins the argument of, like, well, Dave Chappelle isn't funny, or Ben Shapiro is a f****** racist or this political issue or that, and it's like, okay, they sound like they belong here. And then you put them aside. Oh, s***. Yeah, they fit. Yeah, same weight.

Cristina: I saw something like that, but it was about hipsters, that they all look alike.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, it's. Again, the problem is that they are unknowingly subscribing to an ideology which is culty.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They're. They're echoing each other. We love cults. We love cults. Everybody's in a cult.

Cristina: Everyone.

Jack: And they're echoing each other. Oh, same. The same s*** over and over. And like, what is that if not religion?

Cristina: Mm, just you.

Jack: You're saying the same s*** he said, and you said the same s*** they said. Did any of you come up with the f****** thing?

Cristina: Cults, a very popular thing. I mean, they were always popular.

Jack: Cults were always popular.

Cristina: I feel like there's much more of them. Or are they exact same number, you think?

Jack: Nothing has changed other than that we can see it all.

Cristina: Okay. So we wouldn't have known about all of these.

Jack: Yeah. People who complain about there being an in. Cops attacking black people that are unarmed. I am sorry to inform you people, but it is as good as it has ever been. Today it has not gone up. It has steadily gone down. We're just seeing it more because they can not get away with it as actively because everybody has a camera. Yeah, but it was happening way the f*** more. The existence of cameras, in fact, has reduced it so drastically that we see it once or twice a year versus the fact that it was happening every day somewhere. Like somebody getting shot of color everywhere all the time. Now it's gone way the f*** down because we got cameras. And I'm talking even before George Floyd. And before that, it's been steadily going down as we have aimed more cameras at s*** and as we've started to s*** since before we started aiming cameras in general. It's just been going down. As we live in more cities and people are exposed to more people of color and we are sort surrounded by more ethnic groups.

Cristina: Like just things changing.

Jack: Things change for the better. It's been steadily going down the amount of times that this happens, but as more cameras show up, it seems like it's increasing because we're aiming at it.

Cristina: More or we're just re watching the same videos.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So we're like, oh, look at all these videos. Like, how many of those are repeats?

Jack: It's not even the repeats. Is that there are more situ. We more situations have made it on camera.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Even if the same situation was recorded from a million different angles or if we saw the same video a million times, the fact of the matter is we've recorded more of the situations that were already there. There aren't more situations there. They were always there. Yeah, but now we got cameras on them.

Cristina: Yeah. So it feels like more even if it's less.

Jack: Yes. And the same thing happens with these cults that form before it would happen in privacy. And maybe we hear about it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: How many cults went under the radar and we don't even know about? And then hundred years later we find out, oh, there's a f****** graveyard right here.

Cristina: Yeah. Because all these people documentary happens. Yeah.

Jack: But it existed and we just didn't hear about it at the time. And we look back, oh, how crazy. How many of those haven't been discovered? Yet.

Cristina: And the ones that are around us now, they're not all like the ones that we see documented that.

Jack: Oh, they're all creepy because we're thinking religious apocalypse, cults.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what people think of when they hear here's cults.

Jack: Yes, but everything is a cult.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If you are PlayStation vs Xbox, you subscribe to the idea that there are console wars. Yes, you're in a cult. You're in a cult and you're gonna support your team no matter what the f***. It is blindingly ridiculous to assume that Xbox is in any way better than PlayStation, but people believe it. But you can prove that statement wrong with specs, you can prove that statement wrong with exclusives, you can prove that statement wrong with audience size. But it doesn't matter how the objective truth looks. There is still the master race of PC people who can't run any game.

Cristina: Who think they're the.

Jack: Who think they're the best simply because they got the thing. But like, what was. You couldn't even run Arkham the day it came out. You have to wait like a year.

Cristina: You couldn't run GT so many games now that they can't run.

Jack: Yeah, there's mad s***. PC just can't run. Same thing with Xbox. But both sides still believe in the. Their team.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it's not about the objective truth, it's about the team, your cult, your group, people with the same opinion politics. That's happening with everything. There's nothing that's not happening.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: IPhone versus Android. IPhone was the best. It was the best. It was objectively better for many, many years. IPhone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While Steve Jobs was alive. And the moment we no longer had Steve Jobs, the decline began so instantaneously. It took like a year and a half before it was garbage.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And now Android is better. But the cult states Android was always better or Apple was always better. And that is incorrect. They swapped positions.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Going back to the console wars, at this moment, the brand new Xbox is superior to the PlayStation because it has the game pass and it has people who are willing to play that. And it's giving you so many games.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: PlayStation has three f****** games worth it.

Cristina: And then broken controller.

Jack: And a broken controller. So team PlayStation is gonna be. No, it's still better. It's not. Xbox is currently better. Previous generation, there's no competition. PlayStation was objectively the better, superior, Unquestionably s******* on everything around it. But right now, Xbox is the one doing that, minus the fact that it still can't run a lot of games a PlayStation can. But also the fact that it even has the same game that's on PlayStation and a million other games that aren't. Is making the new Xbox the better option?

Cristina: Yeah. Things are always changing like that.

Jack: It's always changing. The cult decides. It has always been this way, and it will always be this way.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The same thing happens with Christianity, for example. The same thing happens with political teams.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm a Democrat. This is always right. No, it's not. Sometimes you do dumb s***. Right now Biden's breaking s***.

Cristina: He. He's a broken old man.

Jack: The f***? Did we get rid of the Taliban so immensely? We were just not hearing about them. They were in caves, hoping that we don't starve to death. Then Biden comes along, and it's like, we gave them a country. Now you guys have a terrorist country.

Cristina: Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

Jack: Terrorist country. Now Obama, Amazing.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Biden, not so much. So both Democrats.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But at one point it was good, and now it f****** sucks. So Trump versus Obama. Well, arguable. Depends on what you're looking for. But Obama versus Bush. Obama 100%. Which means Trump versus Bush. Trump for sure. But Biden versus Obama. Obama and I would even argue Bush over Biden.

Cristina: So Obama over. I mean, you said Biden over.

Jack: I said Obama over Biden.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Jack: Trump and Obama are equal, but different.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Obama over Bush. Trump over Bush. Obama over Biden. Bush over Biden.

Cristina: Okay. Biden is over no one.

Jack: Biden is over nobody. Biden might be the worst thing that's happened to the presidency in quite some time.

Cristina: That's why he's gotta prove himself on top of the White House. Oh, no. But is he gonna lose that? Do we ever say that? Who wins that? No. We're gonna change the history so it doesn't even matter.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna change all that. But the point here being that there is a definite problem with team choosing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Choosing sides and sticking to the sides. And these people on the Internet who echo each other, who mirror each other, who look like each other, who behave like each other.

Cristina: That is so just a cult. Yeah.

Jack: An ideological cult. And they're trying to force that s*** on everybody else because the. The error of the Internet makes everybody convinced that because they have a voice. Your voice matters. Yeah, and it doesn't. Your voice doesn't matter. You can scream as loud as you want, and you're gonna scream at us pretty loud for even having this conversation. But I got a simple and easy bit of advice. That might help you resolve your need to scream at us for saying that your opinions doesn't matter. What, to go f*** themselves. They should probably go f*** themselves.

Cristina: What if they can't?

Jack: Too bad. Too bad. Because the same way you have beliefs, I have beliefs.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And the fact that I have ideas and you have ideas immediately goes to say that there are two thinking beings.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the fact that your ideas and my ideas aren't the same goes to immediately prove that there's more than one perspective.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And in there being more than one perspective, neither necessarily based purely on scientific fact.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just bringing it down to opinion. Your opinion is no more valuable than anybody else's opinion.

Cristina: Exactly. But because of these groups, they really believe.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Yes. My opinion is most important.

Jack: Yes. Because we have echo chambers in which people are just repeating the same s***. And I must be right.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like. No. You surround yourself with people who already agree with you, and you will shut down anybody who doesn't, rather than listening to them and trying to comprehend their position. I get your stance. You'll never get mine. That makes me superior to you because I have my information. And I have your information, but you only have your information.

Cristina: Ooh.

Jack: I'm twice as smart as you are.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's always going to be the case if you shut down everybody's opposing argument.

Cristina: That's why you got to listen to a show with the opposite point of view. That's what you said at the beginning.

Jack: Yeah. You got to make sure to eat all of. All the information. Everything. Everything that is out there. What do I say? I say all information is information.

Cristina: Mm. There's objective truth. You can't disagree with that.

Jack: Yeah. There's nothing you could do to fight that. All information is information.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The end.

Cristina: The end, period.

Jack: That was it.

Cristina: So are you with us about that? I want to see what you say about that. Huh? What could you possibly say about that?

Jack: Yeah. There's no argument to that. All information is information, regardless of how you might feel about it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And going back to the gender problem, the. The trans issue, like, if you're not trans, you don't get to say, man, I don't give a f***. I don't get. I don't give a f*** what you think. You have a right to voice if you're not living the experience. Shut the f*** up about it, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like a joke gets told, you think it's racist. It was about black people, and the black guy in the room is like, nah, it was funny. You don't get to be offended for him. Shut the f*** up and keep that s*** to yourself.

Cristina: Calling something racist is weird. Feels like if Dave Chappelle makes a joke about black people, is that racist?

Jack: That's crazy, right? Because he's black?

Cristina: Yeah. Like, is it? Or is it just a joke? Like, how do you.

Jack: It's just a joke because he's black, but if he's not black, it's suddenly racist. But it doesn't make sense because it was the same basis and the same premise.

Cristina: Yeah, how? I don't know.

Jack: I don't know, man. You can't get offended for somebody else. You got to let a person decide. And there's nothing more racist than a person being like, I'm cool with it. And you'd be like, shut the f*** up. You're offended. It's like, so f*** the oppressed person's opinion. What you, the white person, decided is wrong is not what's wrong. This is just where we're at. You're like, no, he's racist, so I'm gonna shut that black person up. You shut the f*** up, black person. Because you're offended and you're not portraying offense right now. So you shut the f*** up and I'm gonna be offended for you. And it's like, how are you not the racist right now?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It feels to me like you're suppressing somebody else's experience. It's like that to generalize them and say that you should all be as offended by that thing.

Cristina: He said, like, Biden being like, you got. If you're black, you gotta vote for me or whatever.

Jack: Yeah, that was racist.

Cristina: That was pretty racist.

Jack: That was racist.

Cristina: Or the whole, if you're not rich, then. Or if you're not poor, then you're white or something. I don't remember. But it's. It's a lot of racism there.

Jack: No, it was. Everybody has equal opportunities. Poor kids, white kids.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. Biden's racist as f***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. But, you know, they don't like to talk about that. They want to say Trump is racist.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: Trump is ignorant. There's a difference. He'd be like, look at my black guy over there. And it's like, shut the f*** up, bro. I get where you're coming from, but, you know, less loud. Yeah, but he's not like, look at my N word.

Cristina: You think Biden won't say that?

Jack: He literally is on video saying that.

Cristina: Never mind.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just find it on YouTube. But it's this real f****** thing. It's a real f****** thing. And it's like, well, we. He's on our team, so we have to support him.

Cristina: He's on our team. We just pretend we don't hear that.

Jack: Bite is not on our team. So even if we. We get that, he's not being racist about it. Well, he said, look at my black guy. Obviously, he doesn't mean like, look at my slave black guy. He's like, look at my. He's ignorant. He's trying to be like, look at my brother. But he can't say brother. He felt that was being racist. So he's like, look at my black guy. We can call them black people. That's right. The con. The thought process in his mind made sense. Even if it's ignorant. It made sense for an ignorant person. He's not trying to be racist. He's not like, I'm better than that black guy. He's like, hey, look at my brother. But you didn't want to say brother because, you know, I'm not black, but look at my black guy. And I get the connotations of. That sounds like, look at my sleeve. But you know, he doesn't mean that. You're just saying that because you need to demonize him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that's ridiculous.

Cristina: Like, you're trying to do the opposite with Biden.

Jack: With Biden? Yeah. You're gonna find the. Well, you know, he was just reading it off of a paper, but he wrote.

Cristina: Who's writing paper? Yeah, the. Do you mean he approved it?

Jack: Yeah. He was like, hey, it's good.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, come on, dude.

Cristina: Who are you lying?

Jack: You can't just aim. And it's all this culty team.

Cristina: And I don't.

Jack: I. I will be completely honest. I get kind of annoying. Like, I don't usually get involved in this s*** and I don't care. Dude, whatever. Have your opinions and be racist and be transphobic or f****** be female supremacist and feel you have an opinion for whatever. Nobody has to listen to you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The same way you can say whatever f*** you want. People can just ignore what the f*** you're saying. It's great, Whatever. But, like, it annoys me, specifically the female supremacists. I don't care about many of the other things, but it's because the level of hypocrisy comes from trying to silence somebody's personal experience and claim that you understand their experience better than they do. That annoys the s*** out of Me, because they're already a person in the minority who's struggling to make their own statement. And you, who's claiming to defend them, is pushing their own statement down, thus being the bigger problem. That s*** annoys me the same way I get annoyed. Like watching the movie radio where somebody's just taking advantage of a person who has no control over the situation.

Cristina: Yeah. And like I said, exactly what's happening.

Jack: Yeah, I can't watch that movie because I wish I remember when I was a little kid, bro, I wanted to f****** kill everybody in that movie I've never hated. And he's just a person trying to live life, bro. And you pieces of are all just garbage. I hope all your children get murdered in front of your eyes so that you can just.

Cristina: Characters.

Jack: Yeah, them characters. I hate all of them. But the problem is that these female supremacists are doing the same. And I'm not saying females are the problem. I believe in feminism. I believe that females should be treated equally. I don't believe they are. And I don't believe that the propositions that we have, like, I believe there is definitely a difference between female and male. Biologically, physiologically, psychologically.

Cristina: Psychologically, yeah.

Jack: Now do I believe in feminism that they should be treated equal? Yes, because that's how we remove the differences. With enough generations of treating women and men equally, these traits and things that were exclusively men or exclusively women get passed on.

Cristina: And then we can stop labeling them. That would also help.

Jack: Then we could stop labeling them. Yeah, because at the end of the day, for example, hard manual labor gets passed down from father to son, from father to son, from father to son. One daughter comes in and then she has a son that she passes it to and it's back to father and son. Father, son, father and son. That's why we don't have a dominant amount of women who are great at construction. There are women who are. But it's rare if all women were treated equal, even while their performance will not be at the start, over enough generations, the equality is re established because they got to pass the information down to their daughters the same way other fathers got to do to their sons. And that there's an equality distributed it. Yes, same thing with pay. Yes, it sucks to pay a woman who's going to underperform. And yes, she's going to underperform at a job that's predominantly been male. But we made the problem and not letting them do the job and not being able to pass the knowledge that gets in grades of DNA and that they pass natural talents on to their daughters to get to, then improve on it. If we just pay them equally, even during the underperforming beginning, they'll eventually overpassing the knowledge through generations being no different than the males doing the same f****** jobs. It is differences that we have made as men that we can fix by sucking it up, admitting we did it, and just dealing with they will underperform.

Cristina: And never will do that.

Jack: And men are going to underperform at female jobs the same way. They will. There are certain things that we just don't do as good as women, and it is objectively true. We can test it. We know that males are great spatially. They have great spatial awareness, and females have great interpersonal cognition. We understand these things and this scientific fact, but we can work that out of the system and make everybody equal.

Cristina: Mm. But it takes time.

Jack: It takes time, and we have to just deal with the. The unbalanced output by giving them equal compensation until they rise up to the compensation. And it will happen with enough time. I do 100% hate the female supremacist. Not females. I am a feminist. I do not like these people who are predominantly female. Not to say it is all women. Again, I am feminist. But I do have a very, very, very big issue with somebody suppressing somebody else's experience and saying they get to speak for them. You do not get to speak for somebody trans unless you are trans. You do not get to speak for somebody of color unless you are of color. You do not get to speak for whether the police are right or wrong unless you are a family of police or somebody who's being abused by the cops. Just shut the up about something you're not experiencing. That s*** annoys me because you're no different than somebody abusing your position because you're still abusing your whiteness. You're still abusing the titles that you just happen to have part of the lgbt. Well, no, you don't get to speak for everybody in lgbt. Shut the the f*** up about your bullshit because you do not matter as much as you think you do. In fact, you're the least oppressed person. So shut the f*** up and let the people who are dealing with the problems say how they feel and propose the solutions that might help them feel less bad about their circumstance. You don't get to just come in and do that. That s*** annoys the f*** out of me.

Cristina: We shouldn't have lgbt, then.

Jack: We shouldn't have lgbt. The problem is the Alphabet people have f***** it up. Up. Specifically the female supremacists who take claim for everything inside lgbt.

Cristina: Yes, I guess so. Yeah, that wouldn't help.

Jack: The vast majority of my friends are female. The vast majority of the people in my family are female. I am surrounded by female. I respect females.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I have absolutely no problem females. I have a problem with these stupid b****** who feel that they got a f****** opinion. And, yeah, I said that s***. Oh, get offended. I want your hate so that I can ignore it, because I'm not gonna even know you're f****** doing it.

Cristina: It would be weird if that's the thing that they're like, I'm offended. I heard everything else you said, and it's all fine. But that.

Jack: The stupid b****** part, that. That set me off. That set me off.

Cristina: I mean, look, if that's it, please comment.

Jack: Yeah, that's it. Please, like, comment a dog.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, comment. A little Chihuahua or something. Just a dog emoji.

Cristina: Yeah, I don't think it's a specific.

Jack: Just put the emoji of a woman and the emoji of a dog.

Cristina: All right. You both know that that was where you drew the line.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you could be a stupid b**** and be a guy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like, no, I'm specifically referring to these, like, female supremacists who feel they get the right to speak for everybody at all times. And, like, you f****** don't. I don't give a f*** how offended you get that I'm saying this like, you do not matter by any means, because you are the racist. You supr. I am a person of f****** color, bro. I'm dark as s*** with dreads right now. To feel that you get to say, this is offensive. And I'm over here like, it's f****** not. And you're like, no, no, no, it's offensive. And I'm like, shut the f*** up. It's not. No, no, no. It's just not. Shut the f*** up. It's just not. And you don't get to tell me it is, and it'll never be just because you felt it was okay. That's ridiculous. And to say you understand the trans experience. No, bro. One, that's such a unique experience. Two, they are suffering in a way that we couldn't even comprehend. You know what it is to fear telling anybody who you are ever, and then finally doing it and risking just having the s*** beat out of you, maybe even killed, just by being like, hey, this is what I am. Hey. Your life could have ended immediately after that sentence. You do not know what the f*** that is as some spoiled f****** white chick. Get the f*** out of here.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's ridiculous.

Cristina: You're dealing with that a lot, aren't you?

Jack: I deal with that a lot. I deal with that so f****** often.

Cristina: Okay, it sounds like. It sounds like you're talking to these women.

Jack: Yeah, I do. I do.

Cristina: Bothering you?

Jack: It's annoying. It's annoying. I do say off the wall s***, and it attracts this kind of attention, and then they want to f****** voice their opinions. It's like, I get that I sound like I'm a white guy behind this microphone. I understand it. But now you're being racist in that thought. Well, he sounds white. No, I sound educated because the way I sound isn't associated to f****** race, you f****** racist.

Cristina: Yes. F***.

Jack: Anyways, we are out of time. Cancel us if you want, or go yourself. I don't care. I annoyed myself in the course of this. Yes, I might cancel this f****** show.

Cristina: No.

Jack: God d*** it. But if you guys want to hear conversations of this nature, you're probably gonna have to defer to episodes with Anthony in it because we.

Cristina: Yeah, she helps us.

Jack: We have LGBT conversations. A person of color with an LGBT member having actual conversations about things that these f****** N*** women have no place talking about. Two people who do have a place to talk about it are having these conversations. So you could find those. I believe that's three point, like, nine or so. I don't know. Just look for Anthony from Miz the Miz. The Miz from Miz podcast.

Cristina: And we also probably talk about politics in other episodes.

Jack: Yes, there are many episodes with politics breaking down. How politics work in this country, how it's distributed, how we've constructed it, and social political structures as well.

Cristina: The labeling problem continues.

Jack: Yeah, we talked about the labeling problem a couple of times. So you can find all that stuff on the official website. Greatthoughts.info on Apple, podcasts, on Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @JustConvopod.

Jack: Yes, and remember to subscribe if you want to be informed. Anytime new episodes pop up, leave us a rating. If this angered you, leave us a one star. If you loved this, give us a five star. If you're lukewarm on it, give us a three star. We don't give a f***. Just be honest and leave us a review telling us how you felt. If you were an offended female, we.

Cristina: Need to know the specific point. You were offended. It's very important.

Jack: If it was at any given moment, you let us know. Unless it was specifically at saying you, you racist b******, then there you could choose to put the emoji of a woman and a female dog to let us know that you're furious that I called you a b****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And for whatever reason, that's the part that set you off, which is a weird point, but whatever. Like, be you, do you. It is what it is.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. If you also deal with a bunch of female N*** crazy people talking over everybody else's personal life experience and deciding that that's the case. Hey, maybe share this with them and let them know that I am just as angry as they are.

Cristina: Yes. And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: By okay, so it doesn't seem that they have any exact purpose, but it kind of does at the same time. So Gabriel is essentially the angel of, like, peace and love.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then Michael is the angel of War.

Cristina: We know those two at least.

Jack: Yes. And Raphael just stands by God. What does that mean?

Cristina: I don't know. And Lucifer's light. Rare.

Jack: That's a weird one. So Lucifer is the angel of light, not dark. That was applied later by people who haven't, like, read anything.

Cristina: Or maybe he was called Dark after he fell, but then I don't know how that works.

Jack: No, that doesn't work. So there is some sort of loose connection between Michael and Ares, for example.

Cristina: Ares is the war guy.

Jack: Yeah, he's a God of war. And there does seem to be some kind of loose connection between that, but we can't.

Cristina: I don't know what the other ones are. Good morning. Good morning.

Jack: The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by.

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Rambling 153: Jehovah's Empire

Where does the bible take place? How old is the Earth? How long ago were Adam and Eve created? Do the answers to these questions work together effectively or do they contradict each other and create paradoxes? The duo delve deep into the geography of the christian scriptures and the estimated times of events to determine how accurate they are and how many contradictions present themselves naturally.

Rambling 153: Jehovah's Empire

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Topics Discussed:

  • Reasons for Religion
  • The Biblical Flood
  • Noah’s Ark
  • Round Earth vs Flat Earth
  • Original Biblical Text
  • Biblical Locations
  • Adam & Eve
  • Judaism vs Christianity
  • Gay Priests
  • Satanic Christianity
  • The Tree of Knowledge

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: And also this. This show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yeah. So be sure to find somebody to have a lovely discussion with while listening to this. You go, you find people, you drag them into a room, chain them into a chair, and you force them to listen. And then you talk to them, whether or not they want to, as they're fear for their lives. Because America.

Cristina: Because of what?

Jack: As a. Because what?

Cristina: Oh, what was the last thing you said?

Jack: That you can tie them to a chair and force them to listen and talk to them whether they want to or not?

Cristina: Because this is America.

Jack: Because this is America, the land of the free. Do whatever you want, including imprisoning other people and constricting their freedoms. Because America. Yes, that's kind of what we do. We're America of the. We're America. Land of the free. With the most people not free more than anywhere in the world.

Cristina: That's great.

Jack: Yeah. Land of the free. Most incarcerations ever.

Cristina: Yes, that's. That's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah, that's the way it goes.

Cristina: But people want to fight for their freedoms to, I guess, hurt other people. I don't know. All those Karen videos, it confuses me. They are fighting for freedom, their own freedom, I think. I don't know who's stopping them, but there's someone they think is stopping them. They think the world is the difference.

Jack: Between having freedom to public rights and then going into private locations and claiming you have public freedoms in private locations. Which they do not.

Cristina: Which they do not. And they also make up laws, which I think is very strange.

Jack: Oh, well, here's the thing. People believe that other people don't know the laws. And a lot of the time they're completely right. And that if you just pretend, you know, maybe they'll.

Cristina: I think that. Yeah, that's really possible, I guess. Like, I don't know every single law, so maybe they will tell me something and I'm like, maybe I should look this up, because I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, but it should be. They should go in there and recite exactly which law. Oh, I know the law. Okay, which one is it?

Cristina: Which one is it?

Jack: You shattered the entire argument. Because they don't f****** know. They're making s*** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, just look it up. Which one is it? I'll look it up. You know it. Tell me which one to look for.

Cristina: Yeah, because the whole. I don't know, it's always something dumb like the law says you can't use the pool or something. Like you don't even work in this place. What are you talking about?

Jack: Yeah, like this is a pool that belongs to the facility. Do you know the facilities laws? And it says you can't use a pool. Then. Then why do they have a pool?

Cristina: Then why do they have a pool? Exactly. I don't know. There was one of don't play your guitar because it will bother the pigs. Like, what law is that? That's a crazy law.

Jack: It will bother the pigs.

Cristina: I feel like she said that the music was bothering her pigs. I don't know if that's what she said, but it sounds like maybe she.

Jack: Said it was bothering her.

Cristina: I'm so sure she said she mentioned her pigs.

Jack: That's weird.

Cristina: That is weird. Maybe I'm wrong. It's probably not her pigs. But if it is her poor pigs. I don't know. They don't like. What was it? I think it was guitar music or something. Yeah, it was bothering the piggies, but.

Jack: Yeah, maybe that's what she meant. I don't know. I gotta see it.

Cristina: It's weird. It's all weird. I don't know. And the Christians that argue for that. The. I don't know. I don't know who's trying to turn their kids gay. It's the government. But it's also Hollywood. But it's also. Everyone is trying to turn their kids gay.

Jack: Only Christians believe that.

Cristina: Only Christians believe that. Yeah, but that's still pretty weird to believe. That's not a weird idea. That. I don't know.

Jack: It depends on how the idea is presented. How is the idea presented?

Cristina: How is that idea presented? I don't know.

Jack: We explain what they said so that I understand why they think it's making them gay.

Cristina: I don't know why there's two. You know about the two gay. They were penguins and they couldn't have a baby. They were trying to hatch a rock like it was an egg, but it wasn't. So they gave them a real egg and now they have a family. It's them too. And the little girl. I mean, a girl penguin, two gay male penguins and a baby female Penguin. And someone wrote a kids book about it so that kids could have that book about their story. And they're like, they're trying to make it gay, I guess, normal for their kids or something. I don't know.

Jack: Why is making gay normal a problem though? Because it's evil to make gay normal?

Cristina: Yes, because gay isn't evil. Gay equals evil, I guess. Yeah, yeah. So if you're trying to make it normal, you're doing something evil. So whoever wrote that story is an evil person.

Jack: Here's what's interesting about that. This makes me wonder if the purpose of religion is to ensure population growth. Because a lot of things focus on that. Like the whole don't let women make choices, make women do what men want. Because now we have women making choices and men are just going to jail in mass. And not to say that men don't deserve to go to jail in mass. But there's less men to spread seeds, you know? Like it seems almost tactically meant, not maliciously, but rather like let's assure the species survival. Thus religion. Because gay bad. Because gay can't make children.

Cristina: But there's plenty of straight women right now that just don't want to have children.

Jack: That's 100% true. But also, women weren't allowed to read books because educated women don't want to have children.

Cristina: Oh, dumb.

Jack: Women have 7,000 children and they want that jump on welfare.

Cristina: But that's what the Christians want.

Jack: Yeah, but just keep reproducing. Even if half of them die, just keep making more.

Cristina: Just keep making more.

Jack: The world with people the way old God wanted that.

Cristina: He want that because he destroyed a bunch of people though. He destroyed cities.

Jack: Look, God destroyed anything and everything that was right. He drowned the world. Yes, but then you wonder what the world is if everything that ever happened involving God happened in like this, a three country radius. He drowned the world. Get the f*** out of here. He drowned a small, tiny little area.

Cristina: Okay, you think everyone outside of that area were alright?

Jack: Yeah, everybody was f****** fine.

Cristina: What? How do you know?

Jack: Because everything that happened in the Bible is focused in one region.

Cristina: Oh, okay, so they wouldn't actually know if the rest of the world.

Jack: Yeah, there'd be no way to know. They didn't leave that area. They were just all secluded in one spot. And every interaction with God, the world was that one region.

Cristina: What about that boat? Like they must have looked for another place.

Jack: Then how would they know if everything is underwater? What could you look at to tell you you're going anywhere?

Cristina: But if everything Wasn't underwater. You said it was just that spot.

Jack: Right, Right, Right. They already believed everything was underwater as.

Cristina: Far as they can see the boat to like go any further. They just stayed in the hole.

Jack: Could they tell they're going anywhere?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Let's. Let's follow your logic. Everything around you is underwater. Even if other parts of earth are not underwater, which direction is more stuff. If everything looks like it's underwater, I.

Cristina: Don'T go follow the birds. You go somewhere. You just don't stay there. I don't know.

Jack: So the birds decide they're gonna go west. But one. Your boat doesn't have a sail. And also wind is blowing east. How you can follow the birds.

Cristina: The boat doesn't have a sail. I don't know what the boat has. It doesn't have things to move.

Jack: It was just afloat.

Cristina: It was just a float. Okay.

Jack: And if water goes up.

Cristina: Yeah. It was just to keep them there.

Jack: Yeah. It wasn't like a giant wave came and pushed the boat anywhere. It was just like. It just kept raining. It was raining. It didn't. Like rivers didn't. Over there wasn't like a crazy storm that. No, it was just equal rain everywhere for 40 days and 40 nights. That's bringing the water level up and up and up and up and up. And everything is now underwater.

Cristina: Yes. And that boat was not to sail or anything. It was just to be there.

Jack: It was there.

Cristina: Even if.

Jack: Even if, in theory you could sail it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How are you gonna steer it? How are you gonna choose where to go? And where would you go? Which direction would you choose? And how do you know you're going that direction? You would just pick a spot and it's like that way. Is that north or east? I don't f****** know. It's that way.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then if the boat turns gradually.

Cristina: How would you know?

Jack: How would you know? Because everything is underwater.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You'd have to wait until night to look at the North Star.

Cristina: Ah, well, maybe they should just have travel during night.

Jack: Everything is underwater.

Cristina: You got 40 days. Wait. Is it 40 days or 40 years?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Whatever. A very long time on this boat. You got nothing else to do. What harm would it be to travel a little?

Jack: How.

Cristina: If it was a traveling boat. I don't know if they could. If they could travel in the boat.

Jack: Stick out tiny little paddles.

Cristina: Yes. Have the little. The alligators push them. There's only two, though. But.

Jack: So you see that image?

Cristina: Yes, I see it. And it's Confusing? Because that.

Jack: No, no, no, it's not confusing. You're confusing yourself. But I'll explain it after you talk. Go ahead and plead your case. I can prove you wrong.

Cristina: Okay. They're. They're in the edge of different continents, Right.

Jack: Those aren't established as continents yet, but. Okay.

Cristina: They're not continents.

Jack: Not yet.

Cristina: Not yet. How far back?

Jack: They weren't called continents yet.

Cristina: Whatever. The land masses. Okay, the land masses. Okay. And did those land masses disapp in this or is it just where they were at specifically that went underwater, you're saying? No.

Jack: Okay. What do you see in the center of where all this happened?

Cristina: I don't know. Water.

Jack: Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Now it starts raining and doesn't stop raining.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What's going to happen to that water?

Cristina: There's going to be more water. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: It's going to start rising, right?

Jack: It's gonna just keep rising.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's kind of a bowl in there, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the more, I don't know, the more everything gets buried.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And if in theory it rains for 40 days and 40 nights and you're close to the water part.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then that's already eaten everything you know of. And that's just gonna keep filling up farther and farther. Now, if you were to fill up a tub with water.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And you could fill it up in equal parts and you put a little paper boat in the middle. Don't turn on the faucet and push from the direction that the faucet's coming in, but rather water falling equally from everywhere on top down onto the tub. And the tub starts gradually coming up, the boat is going to stay in the middle. In the middle.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So assuming the boat was inside of this general radius that we're looking at where everything took place. Right. It's directly below the Roman Empire that we are seeing these people's boat. We're right. Like, what is this? Like east of the Greek Empire? Is that what we're looking at? More or less.

Cristina: A little part of Egypt in there, Syria, Armenia.

Jack: Because we got to basically look, we're dead center between Europe, Africa and the Middle East. That's really what's happening here. So we're in West Asia, South Europe and North Africa region. The water in between, that is what we're assuming is coming upwards.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So valleys and all that crap. As water comes up, you're closer to the water. In this instance, the water starts coming up, pushing you up, starting to bury the mountains. But because the water happens for 40 days and 40 nights. It keeps building. So everything around you keeps getting buried. Keeps getting buried. So the water actually rises to the height of mountains because you're in a bowl.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So by the time it covers the peaks of mountains, you're higher than mountains at a distance that get sucked up by the curvature of the earth.

Cristina: So you think everything is covered.

Jack: You look in every direction. The curvature of the earth has swallowed. The only way it wouldn't work is if the world was flat. In which case the water level coming up would mean you can see other things. So interesting enough, the argument of Noah's Ark beats the argument of flat earth. They cannot be happening at the same time. They're mutually exclusive. Because if the water did in fact come up this high and the earth was flat, you would have seen the other parts of the earth. Because the earth was not drowned itself, but your region was drowned. Everything that happened.

Cristina: But people who read the Bible think the whole thing was drowned.

Jack: Yes, yes, yes. That's completely wrong and provably wrong. Because everything that happened in the Bible took place in this small region between these three giant continents. So it's in between Europe, Asia and Africa. In not touching all of them. It's just a small region in the middle of them. That's it. Like something that today in a car you could traverse in two days.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Is the whole world back then?

Cristina: That's pretty crazy.

Jack: That's all. That's what they called Earth.

Cristina: I was.

Jack: Earth was a two day car ride.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Everything that existed in all of time to them happened in a two day car rides distance. And if the Earth is flat, then you would immediately be able to see mountains in the distance.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: But the Earth isn't flat.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So after the waters pushed you over your own mountains, it looks like s***. Just disappears over the horizon. There's nothing that way. The world is drowned. Everything is underwater. But they weren't taking into account the fact that the world is not flat.

Cristina: It's not everything.

Jack: It's not everything. There's things over the horizon you cannot see.

Cristina: So this boat could not move. It's just in the middle of water.

Jack: I don't believe the ark had a sail.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or a way to steer.

Cristina: Or a way to steer. It was just there to keep them alive.

Jack: Yeah. It was just something to stay afloat.

Cristina: All right. I don't know how the boat was also.

Jack: They couldn't. I believe they couldn't look out. They were just to be inside the.

Cristina: Boat with no windows or anything.

Jack: You Can't.

Cristina: How did they survive?

Jack: Just 40 days.

Cristina: That's not so bad.

Jack: That's not that bad. It's a month.

Cristina: It's a month.

Jack: So they didn't really need to, like, eat an absorbent amount of animals.

Cristina: No, it was like, maybe they didn't need animals. You could just have something fresh to eat.

Jack: You could just keep, like, an extra chicken.

Cristina: An extra chicken? What if they can only have two of everything or the boat drowns or something?

Jack: I doubt that they could. They probably had, like, an extra chicken and, like, an extra duck or something.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, we. I guess the boat technically had one of every animal.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And the argument would be again, there. When we think one of every animal.

Cristina: In the world, it was two of every animal.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, whatever. Two of every animal in the world. So it had two of every animal in the world. When we're thinking all the animals in the world, we're thinking the whole world.

Cristina: But you're saying it's animals from that location.

Jack: Yeah. And specifically the ones they knew of.

Cristina: Yes. And in some interpretations, it's three of each animals, I think. So that makes even more sense because they can eat that extra animal.

Jack: Yeah. But now they have way too many. This unnecessary space taken.

Cristina: Maybe they're greedy. I don't know.

Jack: But assuming three, right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Three of each one or. No, two of each one. Just two of each one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Then we also have to keep in mind that they didn't know genetic differences back then. So it's like a wolf and a dog. They're both a dog, so only one can stay. So you're gonna. You know. You get my point. So it's not like a big variety. It's more like two of every species.

Cristina: Oh, that's sad.

Jack: No races within species. Just two of every species.

Cristina: There's no way that they were checking exactly what animals.

Jack: There's no way they could know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To them, every variant of a dog is a dog.

Cristina: Yeah. And the bird is a bird.

Jack: All birds. They're all birds are just birds.

Cristina: That's so many.

Jack: Yeah. So they didn't really have, like, chickens and ducks and.

Cristina: No. It would have to be the chicken or the duck.

Jack: Yeah, it's like the same s***. They look slightly different, but that's like a retarded chicken or something.

Cristina: Well, what about horse and a mule? They would have taken both. Right. Because they're both helpful.

Jack: They probably think it's the same s***.

Cristina: So I would take.

Jack: It's probably like, this is a small horse. That's a big horse.

Cristina: Yes. Let's take the small horse.

Jack: Probably a small horse. You know, more room. Yeah, take the small horses. Those horses are too big. We'll take these small horses. Makes funny noises, but, you know, it does the same s***.

Cristina: Yeah, it's more helpful, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it kind of makes sense. Fair enough.

Cristina: They were debating about, like, which of these animals are going to.

Jack: And, like, of course they didn't have, like, lions. Where the f*** you getting lions from? There's no lions in the desert.

Cristina: I don't know. In the pictures they put lions.

Jack: I know, but they also put in, like, giraffes.

Cristina: Yeah, they're all zoo animals.

Jack: Where in the desert is there a giraffe? When have you seen a giraffe in the Middle East? That's from the savannas of Africa.

Cristina: That's not on the tippy top, because that's what they're. That was part of. No, that was Egypt. Egypt doesn't have.

Jack: Egypt also does not have giraffes.

Cristina: They would have camels.

Jack: They would have camels. That would make sense.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Actually, it's unlikely they had horses out there. No, I guess they might have had Turkmani horses. That's fair.

Cristina: We might have horses.

Jack: They might have had horses. Yeah.

Cristina: And actually, instead of dogs, it would be. What are those awful animals?

Jack: Hyenas and s***. Those aren't dogs. They don't look like dogs.

Cristina: They don't look like dogs?

Jack: No. They look like some sort of demon.

Cristina: Yeah, they do. I don't know. I feel like they'd maybe not take those, even if they're the only kind, like, who'd want to take that on the boat. There'd be nothing on the boat.

Jack: There'd be nothing on the boat. That thing is going to. You're not going to trap the hyena. It's going to, one, outsmart you and two, eat everything, including you. So, like, they probably. There was definitely exceptions, but also, there were probably no hyenas there. No desert hyenas are also savannah. There's a lot of things we're thinking are.

Cristina: That are not.

Jack: Are there. That are just, like, African savannas?

Cristina: Oh, man. How many animals are in the desert?

Jack: It's not just a desert. It's the Middle East. Yeah, it's like, not. Most of Africa's greenery is in the Middle East.

Cristina: There are at least cows on this boat.

Jack: Yes. I think cows are global.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. I think we domesticated cows pretty early.

Cristina: No lions.

Jack: No lions. There's no. That wouldn't make sense. Now, what's interesting is the Bible's interpretations say lions, but when the. Before it's translated, when you look at these people talking about the original text, lying is one of the things that was never mentioned. That's why the Hebrews don't like to translate the Old Testament, because there's a lot of bullshit that goes on. And the original thing was not suggesting lions. It was some other different desert animal.

Cristina: Oh, okay, so they weren't lions. No, but they were mentioning real animals. They were mentioning real animals, not non real animals. I mean, like, not that lions are not real animals, but just not from there.

Jack: Yeah, that happened later when translations were made.

Cristina: We just decided to have some fun with it.

Jack: Yeah. We added things that we know exist throughout the world.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Lions, though Lions were not mentioned in the original Hebrew text.

Cristina: Yeah, no, I mean, like, why would we pick lions?

Jack: We picked everything, I guess. Again, you will see picture books and it'll show you a giraffe. Why?

Cristina: How.

Jack: How is there a giraffe on the ark?

Cristina: It's really tall. Arc. I don't know. Oh, no. I guess that would mean they'd have windows for their necks. I don't know how they would have giraffes.

Jack: It doesn't make sen. There's just dumb s*** we added to the translations. It doesn't make any sense. But for them, that's the whole world.

Cristina: That's a small, whole world.

Jack: That is a very small world. And everything that ever took place in the Bible happened in this one region, which then brings even further into question God. Right. So, okay, okay, okay. So one ark disproves flat earth, or flat earth disproves the ark. One is destroying the other. They're mutually exclusive. You can't have them both.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Second, everything that ever happened with God happened in a region perhaps smaller than 1% of the Earth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This is such a strong argument.

Cristina: Multiple gods for multiple gods.

Jack: You're telling me that this guy's total reach was only this one place? And it's all taking place way later than the Greek empire. Much, much, much later. Much later than the Greek empire that stood. So Zeus was around way longer and had a greater reach than Jehovah. Who wants to claim he is the one and only God?

Cristina: How big was that area? Was that even that big empire? Yeah. Was that really that big? Like, what if we looked at all these empires that are not that big? Like, is there any really that big?

Jack: Okay, so looking at this, you can see that the Greek empire is actually a little further East. It's taking up some similar areas, but it's the eastern part. While the Roman Empire is the dead.

Cristina: Center, it's hard to tell which one is the bigger because there's like four different empires we're looking at.

Jack: It looks like collectively the Greek Empire is significantly larger than the Roman Empire. Like, it looks significantly larger because you can see that the lake at the center is way smaller when you're looking at the Greek Empire. And the map is already larger, so it should be that the water is also bigger. So we have a larger map than the Roman Empire. And the Roman Empire has the lake expanded, and you can still see the entire Roman Empire surrounding the water.

Cristina: The Roman looks like the smallest, though.

Jack: Yeah. The Roman is circling the entirety of the lake in the middle, while the Greek Empire is to the east of this lake.

Cristina: Then there's the Babylonian one and the Middle Persian. Those looks pretty big.

Jack: It's funny because the Babylonian Empire, I guess, is predating the Greek Empire. Is that correct?

Cristina: Doesn't have a timeline on these pictures.

Jack: It has for the Babylonian. I can't actually see where it says it for the Greek Empire, but it's significantly smaller and it's actually within the Greek Empire. You can see if you look over here, this part is the Babylonian Empire. That's what we're seeing up here. So it's just this piece right here. So the Greek Empire s******* on the Babylonian Empire by quite a bit. And then following the. In order, we can say that first is.

Cristina: That's got to be the biggest, right?

Jack: No, it's in order because this stops right here. This is that part.

Cristina: This is further up. No, that's up to here. This is.

Jack: This is that. This is that. And then it stretches downward for how long?

Cristina: Okay, yes.

Jack: So we have the Babylonian Empire being the large, the smallest, then the Persian Empire being the second largest, then the Roman Empire being the third largest, and then the Greek Empire being a colossal monster by comparison.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Or you can say, distribution wise, that the Roman Empire and the Greek Empire are roughly the same. Okay, so Zeus, Jehovah, all these people are just basically in the same region.

Cristina: So it's just religions fighting for the same spot.

Jack: They're fighting for the same spot. What they consider the entire world was one tiny little spot.

Cristina: It really was. Okay, it was.

Jack: It was just one area.

Cristina: It's not even a battle of religions. This is a battle of books.

Jack: It's a battle of books. They're all trying to force each other's beliefs onto one another. What it's not even like anything particularly amazing. It's really, really small area compared to the world activity compared to the world.

Cristina: Yeah. And everyone else had their own thing anyway.

Jack: Yeah. So we're talking that while these people are over here doing this whole f****** mess, Shinto happened.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And people are over there believing in nature and spiritualism in the Native American tribes happened. And they're also thinking that the land is talking to them. And alive. We have Norse mythology coming in kind of late because Norse mythology comes after Greek mythology by quite a substantial amount. It's like 3,000 years before Norse mythology. And we know that the Greek Empire and the Roman Empire were kind of going head to head. Right. This is a weird, f***** up mess of s*** happening in the same area. And they called it the world.

Cristina: And they called it the world. That's the important thing.

Jack: Yes. They called it the world.

Cristina: Yes. So are these it?

Jack: It seems like, in my opinion, there were a lot of angry demigod brothers and they were like, this is my dirt. No, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

Cristina: They were all fighting for the same.

Jack: Dirt or there's no such thing as a f****** God. And a bunch of people had just bunch of different explanations to how everything happened. There was probably one origin story, and considering that the oldest one of all of these is Greek mythology, they probably all just stole that s***.

Cristina: I don't know. Is that the oldest in the world or you're just saying in this area.

Jack: In that area.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's the oldest in that.

Cristina: In that area. All right.

Jack: It's creating the world, all that. No, no, Again, their world is that area.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They don't know that there's anything else to them. This is all that has ever existed.

Cristina: And that's what their books are telling.

Jack: Them that their stories are. Yeah. Their books are telling them about justice area and that this is everything and that God only exists here.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe it's even telling them if they. The people who do live on the edge, and they're like, wait, that way is everybody? What the f*** is that way? The books are probably telling them outside of God's land is h*** or some s*** like that, you know?

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: You don't dare leave the sacred land, else you face demons and whatever.

Cristina: And then they were like, we're gonna do that, though. That's how St. Patrick's came to be. He wanted to fight those demons.

Jack: That is so later.

Cristina: That is so later.

Jack: That is way later.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We're talking way at the start. This is like BC type Of s***.

Cristina: Oh, that is way.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You talking about some s*** that happened a couple of days ago. St. Patrick was just recent as f***. That guy was like what, 300 years ago maybe. Mmm, that might be a stretch. He might have been like 200 years ago.

Cristina: 200.

Jack: St. Patrick wasn't that long ago, was he? Holy s***. No, St. Patrick's was. He was in the deep end, bro. Wait, so come on. Oh, s***. He's from the Roman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Okay, so then. Yo, they were blatantly lying to their people, bro. They were blatantly lying to their people. How the f***? You both have. Everything that's ever happened, related to God only happened in this one little bubble. And St. Patrick is like, also, I know there's people up there in like Europe.

Cristina: They know about those people then.

Jack: What, they're all demons or something in there?

Cristina: Yes, that's why he went over there.

Jack: So wait, wait, wait. He didn't think those were people?

Cristina: No, he thought those are people worshiping demons and stuff. Like all the whatever gods they are, those are just the devil and. Yeah.

Jack: So they were friends. Definitely aware of other. Interesting, interesting.

Cristina: Of course they knew everyone else had religions and all those religions were led by the devil, I guess.

Jack: This is so crazy because you're telling me, dude, this is like right after Jesus. This is right after Jesus. Oh, that. It's like there are all. Everything's already mega pop. The Earth has already been fully populated. That's hardcore. That's beating all these f****** arguments of everything started here. That's kind of impossible at this point.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: If the earth is 5,000 years old one, that means we're starting with the Greek Empire. That is only 3,000 years BC. So we're starting at the Greek Empire. So arguably they've got the universe started right there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then Zeus is right. By your own Bible. Zeus made everything.

Cristina: If we got to go with that timeline.

Jack: Yeah. If we're going by the 5,000 year old timeline. Zeus, not Jehovah.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh. Ow.

Jack: Yeah. Because Jehovah came. The Bible talks about Jehovah creating everything, but even the stories in the Bible's Old Testament are happening thousands of years after the creation. So.

Cristina: Yeah. So the only part that's happening is the creation story and then it starts way in the future.

Jack: It starts where there's people and crap.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Like Adam and eve was not 3000 BC.

Cristina: No.

Jack: That would be crazy, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Okay, okay. This angered me. This. Okay, okay, let's break down the logic of the Christian Bible right now. According to Christians, the Earth at this moment, according to Bible, the Old Testament and the New Testament and all the data that they are extracting, I say all loosely at this point, the earth is 6,000 years old. Okay, in the ballpark I was assuming about 5,000, but you know, I'm a thousand years off. Whatever. So the Earth is Greek mythology, old and about. That's it. That's it. Just Greek mythology old, according to the Christian Bible. But also the Earth and everything in the universe. Yeah, and everything in the universe that age, somehow. Somehow according to the Bible, Adam and Eve are 10,000 years ago. So we had 4,000 years of Adam and Eve and then Earth, I guess. So not only does that make zero f****** sense.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that is entirely based on them existing during the Mesolithic era. Not following the logic of the Bible, science.

Cristina: The science.

Jack: Because science goes ahead and tests them, you know, human DNA to see where the beginning of DNA evolution crosses over to our current genealogy. And that's where things get a little fuzzy because it suggests that somewhere between 120,000 to 156,000 years ago would be the birth. So there's a ginormous f****** discrepancy between Adam and Eve and humans gene evolving into human as there is today. So science is just saying, no f****** way. Like 9,000 years. We have been what we are for too long by that point.

Cristina: Yeah. And unless they're not the first humans.

Jack: That would be the first humans, which would make perfect sense if we had somebody around the time of Jesus, which is not that far from the creation of time, travel way the f*** away from where everything is allegedly taking place, and see nothing but other people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That would make, you know, f****** sense. That would be just logical.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Who knew? That would be just logical that maybe humans have been around long enough to spread. So when you leave the place where you think everything is taking place, you see people.

Cristina: See people. Like, what do you mean?

Jack: When he went to Europe.

Cristina: When he went to Europe, Yeah. Wait, you talk about St. Patrick now.

Jack: St. Patrick goes to Europe.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he sees people.

Jack: That's because they're needed to be people giving birth to people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Thus there must have been people.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Hence there must have been people there. Yes, yes. So people ahead of people equaled people being there to begin with. Not just I traveled out and saw. Unless by their understanding the universe and other gods. Man, they had to believe in other gods. They had to believe in other gods. That's the only way. Because they believe God made their understanding of the world. And then he travels out and he sees other people that weren't made by God.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Those people are sinners. They weren't made by God.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And they're worshiping other things, other gods. And God himself says, you hold no other gods before me.

Cristina: I definitely know there's other gods and you should know.

Jack: At some point it got twisted and turned. I'm assuming Christianity did it. Christianity killed the other gods. Not literally killed them, but they tried to suppress the existence of other gods because Old Testament God is fully aware of that. There are other gods.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: It's New Testament God. That's just. No, there isn't.

Cristina: And that's when Christianity is from. So, yeah, they decided. No, they just decided.

Jack: Which is interesting because the Jews are kind of agnostic to some degree with a lot of things. Like there's the. The Orthodox Jews, but the, like, well established version of Judaism has a very agnostic, well, kind of attitude to a lot of things. Things like heaven and h*** and like that.

Cristina: They're like, I don't know, what about multiple gods? Are they like.

Jack: I'm thinking the logic behind it is the God that made us is the God we worship.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if there are other gods, too bad they didn't make us.

Cristina: Yeah. That's just pretty simple rule. We follow him.

Jack: Simple. Very logical, man. The Jews understand the juicer, right? Aren't they, like, they've got it at least. Maybe not as to whether there is a God or there are gods or if that's even the right path of thinking. But their approach to God makes perfect sense. Anything that's beyond our comprehension. We're not gonna pretend we know. Which the Christians love to do. They have all the assumptions.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The Jews are like, I don't know, evil.

Cristina: And we need to destroy it.

Jack: Yeah. Jews don't. Like, I don't. Maybe you go to h***, dude. I don't know. That's. I don't know who told you that.

Cristina: That's why they're Christian number one enemy.

Jack: Yeah. 100%.

Cristina: Their attitude is so different.

Jack: Yeah. They're chill. They're like, it is what it is.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Like, when we die, we'll find out. Yeah, well, yeah.

Cristina: And they're like, no. They're bullying everyone. Like, no. You do know what happens. Fire.

Jack: Yo. It's crazy, right? That's nuts. So they. It's nuts. It's nuts because everybody. The. The one fault they all have is they're pretending that everything took place in one spot. Then again, maybe the Jews Weren't doing that. That sounds very Christian to me, that the Christians are like, you know, the world got drowned. But it's like, you know, things where.

Cristina: That's why they don't try the translation thing.

Jack: The translation.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yes. And also, we know that the flood didn't actually mean flood because that was added in the translation.

Cristina: That did. Yeah.

Jack: That was part of the translation. I mean, we. We looked at this before. We had gone through this. We never talked about it on the show. But you and I have personally gone through this before. That. That is not actually in the Hebrew Bible. It's not in the Hebrew text. Scriptures do not talk about a flood in that way.

Cristina: How many things, though, were. Do people think are there that aren't really there?

Jack: A lot. The problem is people don't learn Hebrew and then go read the thing. They trans. They trust somebody's translation.

Cristina: They trust somebody. They're not even reading the Bible.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Pastor. Reading into them.

Jack: So there's an easy way to break apart what's happening between Judaism, Christianity, that. Until now, that I've thought about how ridiculous the Christian branch of this is. And I've always knew it was ridiculous, but it always just gets more ridiculous when you think about it, which is Christianity is a hundred percent a religion without philosophy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Judaism is equal parts religion and philosophy.

Cristina: And what about other religions? Are they also with their own philosophies or.

Jack: Many times they try to offer philosophy at least. And we know things like Shinto and Buddhism are purely philosophical with total lacks of religion.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So there are many different aspects to this. And we know Judaism might be the most balanced version or a spectrum. Yeah. Because there's definitely ways of thinking about spirituality without having to have faith included and without having to have ritual included. Thus you have spiritual philosophy, then you have a combination of spiritual philosophy and religious tradition. And then you have spiritual religion, which is Christianity, actually, minus the spiritualism.

Cristina: They like to use the word spirit.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Spiritual.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're not inclusive, while Jews kind of are like, you know, it is what it is. It's just one God. Like, I'm not gonna judge you for not following the God. You do what you got to do. But I'm gonna follow the God because I believe he made me.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While Christians are like, you're going to f****** h***, bruh. Because you ain't following what I believe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like, whoa, dude.

Cristina: Going to h***. And stop turning my kids gay.

Jack: Yeah. Stop turning all the kids gay, man. Are the people who believe the frogs are turning Gay Christian, too.

Cristina: Of course they. The same person.

Jack: Like, basically the idea here is if you believe in a conspiracy theory that seems to be completely absurd, you might.

Cristina: Be Christian, she might be Christian, Might be.

Jack: Because Christianity is a conspiracy. It's the conspiracy.

Cristina: It's the biggest conspiracy of all. Of all. Yes.

Jack: It's lying to the people as to how big Earth was. Lying to the people about how long Earth has been around. It's lying to people about what happens after death. It's lying to people about what God wants. It's lying to people about how God wants it.

Cristina: It's lying to people about. I don't know. I guess today the government, celebrities, everyone's against you, everyone's an enemy. Everyone's trying to turn a kid gay. Except for the pastor, obviously.

Jack: The only one who's. He's trying.

Cristina: He's.

Jack: He's the only innocent one.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You gotta understand, Christina, you're. You're thinking of.

Cristina: He's the one that's telling them that this is happening.

Jack: Yes. Look, he. His hands have been purified by God himself.

Cristina: So when he touches those kids, when.

Jack: He touches those kids, it's not gay and it's not a sin. He's purifying childex so that when. So when they. Their wives in the future, they are their wives with purified dicks that are going to have sinless children so long as they don't have premarital sex after their. Their. Their child dicks touch priests hands.

Cristina: Can you say those two words together?

Jack: Child dicks and priests hands.

Cristina: Yes. It's so horrible.

Jack: Yeah. This is the reality of the matter. Christians truly believe that when a pastor puts a little child willy in his mouth, he's making this child more innocent. And the reason the kid is scarred in the future as a result is because he's been so purified, the demons are working their way out. And we're witnessing that happen. Christianity.

Cristina: And there's also priests that are like, oh, if the child's confused, don't give him to LGBT members because then they'll confuse them even more.

Jack: You give them to the priest who usually deals with kids like this anyways.

Cristina: Nah. He wants them to go to Christian families to turn them straight.

Jack: No, you gotta take. You gotta take your kid and be like, look, so you're telling. You're telling me your kid is showing signs of wanting to touch other people's privates. I know exactly how to solve this problem. You need to trust the church with your child and leave him here. We're gonna purify him. And the first thing the priest. The priest does is tell the kid, look, my d*** is God's d***, and you like touching dicks. So by touching my d***, you're gonna reverse your love of dicks. And as a result, you're gonna be cured. You just gotta touch my d*** the way you touch their dicks and you know, magic. Magic that's so horrible, it's like rubbing a magic bottle.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You're gonna rub until the genie comes out. And when the genie comes out, you're gonna watch me start speaking in tongues and shudder as the spirit of God enters my body. And you know at that moment that you've done the right thing and you are not.

Cristina: I'm God is the difference of those. God is people who are possessed. They seem almost the same.

Jack: I don't know, maybe they're like in. You know, it's like those people who. They believe, oh, my God, I'm having a heart attack. And they believe it so viscerally that they have a heart attack.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like these people who are over here, like, the spirit of God is in me. They believe it so much that it. They're. To them, it's happening.

Cristina: Yeah, but it looks a lot like a person.

Jack: An o*****. Well, maybe that's the feeling they believe is happening.

Cristina: I was thinking of someone who's possessed. Like the whole speaking in tongues thing and whatever. Aren't they speaking and stuff?

Jack: That is kind of diabolical, right? That goes up there with the. The whole. Eating flesh, drinking blood, making sacrifices even. I love that meme of lamb's blood because it tells God which are the right kids to kill.

Cristina: Horrible.

Jack: Yeah, but like all of that weird s***, you know that, like, God is pretty diabolical when you think about it. But then God shows up and he enters your body and the first thing you do is sound like a demon, Bro, maybe. Maybe we're wrong about what we think Christianity is and we're over here accusing these people. You guys worship Satan. And it's like, is Satan calling everybody else Satan?

Cristina: Is it? Yeah.

Jack: He's just running around saying, I'm God, you're Satan. But it's like, no, bro, but. But you. You kill the children. You wanted first you needed an animal sacrifice. F*** that guy's crops. You needed blood. So, yeah, f*** it if they kill each other. I like your dead animal more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Also, I need you.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: To drink blood. And I need you to eat flesh. Also, I'm gonna eat your firstborn. I'm gonna just show up the houses and Kill.

Cristina: First born a bloody X on my door.

Jack: Yes, you. If you already sacrifice an animal for me, then I'm not gonna kill your kid. But if you don't want to kill the animal, well, I'm gonna kill the kid.

Cristina: That's cool.

Jack: And like, you know, when I enter your body, never mind the fact that you scream in tongues and your voice gets deep and you shudder and you speak backwards and stuff, it's by no means that I'm the devil. No, no, no, no, no. That's just what it sounds like when I'm around to try and trying to confuse you, man. You're gonna who? You're gonna listen to me. Have you ever seen the devil? I. I have. I know what he is, and it's not me. I'm God.

Cristina: What does the level look like? Is he the lizard person?

Jack: He's the snake. He's. He's just blaming. He's just picked a f****** random thing. He's like, that's. That's the devil that things. The devil's like, bro, isn't that just a snake? No, no, no, it's the devil. I'm telling you. You're gonna question me. I'm God. That's the devil. But where'd you even come from, bro? Day? Are you questioning me?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the snake is like, bro, just eat the f****** fruit and you're gonna know truth. Just f****** eat the fruit, bro. He's like, no, that's the devil.

Cristina: How did that snake move that snake, though?

Jack: And then that snake ate the fruit. And he was like, d***, that's a devil, ain't he? I gotta tell these people to eat that fruit, bro. And he's like, no, no, that's the devil. Don't you listen to that stupid snake. They did eat the fruit.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: But they didn't eat the whole fruit.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: They were taken. They got caught in the act.

Cristina: Did they?

Jack: Maybe you have to finish the whole fruit.

Cristina: How do you know they got caught in the act? I don't know.

Jack: The story says in the Bible they were caught eating the fruit.

Cristina: I don't know. No, they. She was caught giving it to him, so she probably ate more than him.

Jack: Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. I don't remember this clearly. It's been a while.

Cristina: But first Eve, she took. She ate the apple. Then she was like, oh, my gosh, this is awesome. I should show this to Adam.

Jack: Interesting. Did Adam bite the fruit or did he grab the fruit? I don't remember if he actually. He bit. Right. He at least took a little bit.

Cristina: He had to.

Jack: But they didn't eat the whole fruit. It should have been a whole fruit for you. A whole fruit for you. Knowledge. They were stopped just in time to not be able to tell that God is the devil.

Cristina: You think if they ate enough, they would have tell.

Jack: They would have seen that it's the tree of knowledge. The information that this being does not want them to have is in the one tree that he said you cannot eat from.

Cristina: Mm, sorry. Disturbing.

Jack: And then from that point forward, he wants sacrifices or he's gonna kill your children and you have to eat flesh and you have to drink blood. And anytime he's inside of your. You're gonna behave like a demon has possessed you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And thus the story of how God came to be.

Cristina: So he's some kind of demon.

Jack: He's some kind of demon. He might be actually the devil. Christianity itself, not Judaism.

Cristina: And some of those stories are Jew.

Jack: The original Old Testament is Judaism. Yes.

Cristina: But some of the stuff that God wanted, all those things that was from the first book too. That was specifically the first book, is when God was asking for things and everything.

Jack: Interesting, interesting.

Cristina: The second one, he's not really.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. God is taking a vacation or something. Interesting. Here's my question about that. Because, okay, the Jews are following the devil, which is the same God that the Christians believe they're also following later. But then God became Jesus. And then we killed Jesus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Did God really die? And we're like, no, he's still there, but it's like, bro, he kind of hasn't been around since, like. Like we were saying he was God. And then we killed him. And then there was kind of like no more God stuff happening ever again.

Cristina: Maybe he was tired of this. He was like, okay, I'm over this.

Jack: You think it was suicide? Like, he was like, I know they're going to kill me, but f*** it.

Cristina: Yes. I think that was a go. He's like, yeah, I know I'm going.

Jack: To have a short life, but interesting, interesting. We're like, we killed Jesus and that purified our sins. Right? So God becomes Jesus, and him knowing he's gonna be killed. In being killed, his goodness gets spread it just everywhere, all at once. I guess we'd have to blow him up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We need, like, dynamite inside Jesus in order to spread his.

Cristina: So you destroyed him the wrong way.

Jack: We destroyed him the wrong way.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Because his goodness needs to spread out. It needs to rain upon the Innocent bystander to washing.

Cristina: So God was a demon and then he became a human because he was tired of messing with us and he let us kill him because he knew that's how it was gonna end.

Jack: Or. Or whoa, what is it? Whoa. Maybe God was a demon. That's. That checks out really hard. That checks out real hard. But Jesus wasn't.

Cristina: He's not related.

Jack: No, but the demon convinced him he was. He was just a f****** kid, bro. He was just a kid.

Cristina: But then why. Why was that the last prank or whatever?

Jack: Because that was the actual God that nobody ever saw. Let's. Let's rewind back to the beginning. He didn't make Adam. He didn't make Eve. We've already established that. It kind of seems like there's not just Jehovah, but others.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: And that chances are Jehovah himself was put. Yeah, he was put in the garden. He didn't make the garden. He didn't know how the garden worked.

Cristina: There was a creature in the garden.

Jack: There was a creature in the garden. We called him God.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And he somehow stopped whatever the other thing that was meant to watch over things was and trapped that thing.

Cristina: And you're saying that thing is Jesus?

Jack: That thing is Jesus. Or he turned that thing into Jesus so that it was pure goodness. And his joke was you're gonna go down there and die like the things you made.

Cristina: He somehow tricked the thing over him.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Or some other things like him.

Jack: Other thing like him.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He's Loki and Loki has his Thor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so the Thor in this case is who we think we're referring to when we say Jehovah. But actually we're talking about Loki, who's the entire Old Testament and all the crazy s*** that happened and the want for sacrifices and you drink blood and you do this and you do that. And I'm gonna eat your firstborn because. Haha.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Right? And then Jesus happens, but Jesus is really just whatever the h*** was really supposed to be here first. That he somehow stopped from doing his job. And then as his last haha, f*** you turned him into Jesus immortal that's gonna be murdered.

Cristina: So they end.

Jack: Dipped.

Cristina: They both dipped though. Or he really died. Whatever that other.

Jack: Yeah, he really died. He just like stripped him of power and made him human. He's like, here you go.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then just like, I got your power and I got my power and I'm out, cuz. This is boring now. Yeah, I've been doing this for like 3,000 years. Mount.

Cristina: Guys, I don't know, cuz Jesus was supporting him through the whole thing.

Jack: Jesus had no idea.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Jesus was born a normal person.

Cristina: So the thing. So there was a thing in Jesus?

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. Jesus was the other thing.

Cristina: But he didn't know that.

Jack: He didn't know that. He lost his powers. He lost his memory. He was wiped out. He was turned into a mortal.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's like if you were to take one of the Greek gods powers, you.

Cristina: Could turn into mortal and erase their memories and everything.

Jack: Yeah, just. You are now just born. You were born from day one.

Cristina: Alright?

Jack: You're not born and you're just like Benjamin Button, just talking English and s***. Full knowledge and crap.

Jack: No, he was a hundred percent just a kid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then we killed him.

Cristina: And then we killed him. Then that's the end of the story.

Jack: The end.

Cristina: Yeah, that sounds right. I don't know.

Jack: Seems legit, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How interesting. I'm way too fascinated by the fact that. More than definitely, like there's more than one 99% chance Jehovah's the devil. Or a demon at least.

Cristina: Demon. A demigod. A demigod could be evil. Yeah, it's neutral.

Jack: It's neutral. So he's not omniscient anything, it's just some other being that makes like he's bad sometimes.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're all bad sometimes.

Jack: Yeah, like Zeus will murder people.

Cristina: F*** yeah.

Jack: They do stuff.

Cristina: He fits.

Jack: That fits. And he loves sacrifices. So did Zeus. They love sacrifices. They all love f****** s***. Sacrifice and murder to them and crap. I'm gonna kill your firstborns. Or you kill a goat. You kill a goat. Give me some blood. Or you.

Cristina: I'm going like a prank or something. Like it's all just like haha. What can we convince them to do? That's so dumb.

Jack: No, I think it's about loyalty.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I think it's. You're gonna kill the goat to prove to me that you believe me and that you follow. Well not believe me because you know I'm here, but that you follow me.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or I kill your kid.

Cristina: Harsh. Okay. Simple loyalty. Loyalty about loyalty, demi thing.

Jack: Zeus also loves loyalty. It's about loyalty. And he will murder over loyalty.

Cristina: Yeah, they all have their temples and whatever.

Jack: Yep, yep, yep. 100% fascinating man. Does argument for a twisted, psychotic, Loki esque demigod is like real hard on that.

Cristina: I think that's the winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Especially when people have the spirit of God. You basically just became the Exorcist.

Cristina: Yes, I don't know, it lasts so much shorter that they're like, it's. It's fine. I don't know.

Jack: It's weird with normalize, huh? Anyways, running out of time here, but if you guys enjoyed this conversation, there are a copious amount that. Of conversations of this exact type and nature here on the podcast you can find many, many, many. And we're basically just refining some thoughts we've had. But we've never really discussed how tiny the area in which everything in the Bible takes place.

Cristina: Like, it's so ridiculous.

Jack: So small you could drive across that s*** in a day. That's crazy.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Yeah, that's. That's everywhere God and Zeus were.

Cristina: And somehow Adam and Eve were created before the world was.

Jack: The world is 6,000 years old, but Adam and are 10,000 years old. So resolve that, Christians. Anyways, you can find all that additional stuff where we talk about how much we love God and Jehovah and, you know, this is the Christian podcast where we just talk about how much faith and love we have in God. So, you know, you can find all that stuff on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts, really.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @JustConvopod.

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Cristina: Are you woker? Are you Put some cross emojis in there?

Jack: Actually, no. Put a goat and then. Oh, yeah, I guess you put a little X. Put a little X right after you put a goat emoji, because you kill the goats and they put a child. So you put a goat, you put an X, and then you put a little kid at the end.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Jack: And then that'll tell us that you. You listen to the episode.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Should we start posting these with those?

Cristina: That would be so cool. Yes, that makes sense. Yes. Awesome. Yeah, Our reviews are gonna be covered in random emojis.

Jack: Yeah, man, that's dope. And yeah, so make sure to put.

Cristina: Coast with that stuff and let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is the most overpowered thing that exists in all of the universe. And apparently the universe is, like, 300 miles. So, yes, you know, like, whatever.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. Bye. Weird. Let's go. Are they jumping through pictures? How are they coming to us?

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: They're not, like, from this, are they?

Jack: No. This is an interesting point. This is a very interesting point that you bring up, because then the question is, are we to think of heaven like a painting? Like, is it this other space that is not? Like, it's the painting in the Roadrunner in Wile E. Coyote situation?

Cristina: I feel like we're the painting. I would have imagined heaven to be a gallery of paintings.

Jack: Oh, f***. See, here's the problem. Here's a problem with that.

Cristina: What?

Jack: You're assuming that. Well, in any case, what God are you talking about? That's which version of heaven. If you're referring to, like, Jehovah heaven, then why would it be a gallery and not just a now?

Cristina: A now?

Jack: Like, they have one moment the same way we have one moment. They share one moment. Yes, God exists always and forever, but also we are being visited. Or there's a narrowness and we're always going in one direction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So their time is our time. There's not a gallery. There's a single painting, and it's called Earth.

Cristina: Well, the other paintings represent other realities.

Jack: Well, this is my problem. If you're talking Jehovah, that's not the case. Oh, because we're talking, like, Christian God and Earth is the only thing that matters. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You'd be talking about some sort of elevated version of religion. In that case, then, yeah.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo, and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 152: Shinto Shrines

Who first interacted with the shadow realm? How did they find it? Are churches and shrines related to the shadow realm somehow? And who’s master plan resulting in may churches and shrines throughout the world in order to bring creatures from the shadow realm through? The duo finally start resolving the bigger lingering questions about the shadow realm and the belief systems propped up around the need to bring things from the shadow realm back to base reality. The secret they uncover in the process is a twist they don’t see coming. And the usual suspect seems to be behind it all. Find out who, on this episode!

Rambling 152: Shinto Shrines

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  • Trump 2024
  • Star Destroyer
  • Rabbit People
  • Trump vs Biden Battle
  • Vaccine Propaganda
  • Right vs Left
  • Woke Culture
  • Star Trek Borg
  • White House Battle
  • Shinto Explained
  • Kami (Spirits)
  • Shrines
  • The Shadow Realm
  • Vampire Jesus
  • 12 Apostles

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas and childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So shut up and listen with somebody else.

Cristina: Why do they have to shut up? They could talk with us.

Jack: Yeah, we don't have to listen to them talk.

Cristina: Yeah, we're not listening to them.

Jack: And actually it would make sense if they're having to. They're bringing somebody else to have discussions with and then they're just shutting up and listening. But you know what? Go find somebody to have discussions with about the show and shut the f*** up while you listen.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know. They could talk while they listen to the show and then realize they didn't listen to the show and then have to re. Listen to the show.

Jack: This is why you got to download the show. So you can just, like, have it with you as you continue to talk to people and realize you're missing the show as you're talking to people about the show you're missing.

Cristina: So you gotta give the episode, like, three listens just to get the full picture.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the best way to do it.

Cristina: Yes. That's the right way.

Jack: It's recommended you shut the f*** up to grasp it. But. But also, you can't talk with somebody if you shut the f*** up. So you should make a combination of shutting the f*** up and listening and also having conversations. Yeah, you could do it in either order. At least give it two listens. One should be completely silent. The other should be with conversation.

Cristina: Both should be with two people.

Jack: Both should be with two people.

Cristina: Or more.

Jack: Or more.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: The minimum is two people.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Why you're quietly sitting next to somebody else to listen. I don't know. But you're gonna do it?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because the children. And cancer.

Cristina: And cancer. That's a lot of cancer.

Jack: That's a lot of cancer.

Cristina: I feel like maybe we should stick to two now that I'm thinking about it. Like, if it's more than two, then everyone's listening through the one device and that means we're getting less plays. Although they are replaying it, but it Would still be better if it's just.

Jack: So only two. It's the minimum and the maximum.

Cristina: Yes, now it is.

Jack: The rule is no more, no less.

Cristina: No. If there's a third person in the room, they gotta listen. No, they can listen to it on their own device.

Jack: Fair enough. Fair enough. They have to listen on a separate thing. Yes, it is illegal. I will pass this law. We will get the President to pass this law so that people are obligated to listen in pairs of two. And if they don't, because all our technology is spying on us, they will know and you will go to jail.

Cristina: The President is gonna stop everyone in the world though.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Because.

Jack: Yes. With the power of friendship.

Cristina: With the power of friendship.

Jack: He's gonna go and be sleepy on them and you're gonna be like, oh, you know what? Pass the law.

Cristina: Sleepy.

Jack: Sleepy Joe.

Cristina: That's horrible. That's a horrible nickname.

Jack: I know, but it sticks, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I've heard so many people. I've heard people on the left call him Sleepy Joe.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's just super stuck. Trump won. Like, let's be real.

Cristina: Trump won. That nickname?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, wow.

Jack: Trump won, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He wanted everything and he sucks all at the same time. He's awesome. He's like a weird monster that can't be beat.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's crazy. He's like the super boss and we lost the first fight.

Cristina: Oh. So there has to be another fight.

Jack: There's going to be. He's going to run again. Oh, 2024 Trump.

Cristina: 2024.

Jack: 2024. Some Trump.

Cristina: Exciting.

Jack: It's going to be crazy.

Cristina: And then he's going to try to run again after winning.

Jack: Yeah, he's gonna try to win a third time and people are gonna vote for him anyways. But it's illegal to run again. But there's gonna be some sort of a coup and then like a Star Destroyer is gonna show up and a bunch of ships are gonna fly out of it from the space forest. Yeah.

Cristina: Space warriors. Yeah.

Jack: And that's when we're gonna start shooting from the ground up. And he's gonna board one of the Star Destroyers and go to planet Trump that he has been building. It's a giant like fake looking moon thing.

Cristina: Is that his Space Force is doing all of that?

Jack: Well, actually no Space Force is probably coming in contact with the rabbit people. Or is it called the Claridians or some s*** like that?

Cristina: Yes, that's what you named that. How do you remember that? It's a random word. Is that really. Did you steal that name from something, man?

Jack: Probably. I don't know.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I don't know. It's. I don't know why I remember anything. I don't know where I learn anything I remember. I don't know why I have memory of the most weird, obscure ra. Random. But these Claridians. And what do you mean that I made up? This is.

Cristina: If you stole that from something that could be like a Star Trek alien.

Jack: It could totally be, but this is just conversation lure, bro. Okay, so Claridians, according to what? Rabbits are rabbit people inside of a Death Star esque thing. And Trump is gonna ride a Space Force ship. A space Force, like super mega colossal ship too.

Cristina: I forgot the star.

Jack: Just through the. The Death Star.

Cristina: Where do we get these rabbit people from? I feel like it had something to do with elephants, but are there elephant aliens too?

Jack: No, no, no. There was just a Death Star thing in space or some. They were watching us or some.

Cristina: But I don't remember. I feel like there was something that was afraid of them, though.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. Or something was. No, they were afraid of something that was the cockroach people or something like that they were holding. They were stopping. The cockroach people were basically like Vulcan sauce.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And they were watching over Earth, waiting until we were ready to explore space.

Cristina: And they were stopping the rabid people.

Jack: They were stopping the rabid people from coming to us. Because rabbits, according to. I don't know, we. I don't know, we made it up, I guess. That rabbits are scared of cockroaches.

Cristina: No, I thought there was something about Rab. Rabbits. No. Elephants being afraid of rabbits.

Jack: No. You wanted elephants to be what? Scared of cockroaches.

Cristina: Oh, that's what it was.

Jack: Yes, but there's no reason they would be. So we established that rabbits are what's in the Death Star esque ship that was being held at bay. But the moment we destroyed Mars and the cockroach people dispersed across the galaxy and were no longer centralized, the rabbit people in the Death Star started coming our way.

Cristina: And they're working with Trump.

Jack: Yeah. Trump is going to board them and be the leader of the rabbits. And this is all fact. You can read it in government documents.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: This was part of his Space Force plan. So if you want to read more on this, go to spaceforce.org and you will see that I am talking truth. But wait until the episode is over and you've forgotten all about this.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Do it later.

Jack: Yeah, do it Much later. Anyways, as our listeners, shut the f*** up and listen. According to the law that Trump will pass when he becomes a king. Sleepy Joe. You're right, you're right, you're right. And that's why Trump is gonna go to war in the first place. Because he wants to beat Sleepy Joe. But he's gonna be too sleepy. And Trump is gonna swing as Sleepy Joe droops asleep and he's gonna miss his head and Trump is gonna spin all cartoony and get dizzy himself and it's gonna be like in Pokemon where they do conf. Pokemon is all confused.

Cristina: So he's going to confuse himself.

Jack: Yeah, he's going to confuse himself and then he's going to fall over. Cuz he has no balance, which we saw because he can't go up or down a plane successfully. Yes, he like wobbles and he wibbles and wobbles, but he hasn't yet fallen down.

Cristina: But this time he won't.

Jack: But he will fall down because he's going to be dizzy too. Other than just wibbling and wobbling. So as he swings to hit Sleepy Joe during their epic battle on top of like a building. The White House fire. Yes, the White House on fire is on fire.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And it's Sleepy Joe versus Trump on top of the White House. And it's the last epic battle and Trump with his lack of.

Cristina: Do you know why the White House is on fire?

Jack: Trump said it had Trump supporter set it on fire.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then Trump swings and he. Sleepy Joe just falls asleep at that moment. Like, like, like Jigglypuff trying to put him to sleep. You ever stare an animal and like you close your eyes like you're getting sleepy and the animal starts getting sleepy? Yeah, it's like a weird hypnosis you could do on an animal that say that's a trick. Sleepy Joe's pull. That's where he got the name Sleepy Joe.

Cristina: Cuz he puts people.

Jack: He puts people to sleep. It's a trick he learned. He's using psychology, bro. He pretends he's old and incoherent, but nah, it's a trick. It's government mind control.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: To the public, dude, he's falling asleep in front of the world. And the world is falling asleep in front of their screens. What?

Cristina: So he can. When they're not looking, they're looking. Okay. Yeah, that's cool.

Jack: Yeah. So in this epic battle on top of a burning White House, Trump swings totally uncoordinated. He probably would have missed anyways, but he swings, and Sleepy Joe falls asleep at that moment, drooping to the side like Matrix style, dodging the super slow, easily dodgeable punch of Trump. And Trump spins, and now he's dizzy, and he wibbles and wobbles and actually falls down this time.

Cristina: Does he also fall asleep?

Jack: I. I guess maybe. Well, he's. He only falls asleep in front of a tv, so not really.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So. Which is ironic because that's exactly how Sleepy Joe's putting everybody to sleep.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So chances are it's super effective. It's like hitting a water Pokemon with lightning. And it's like. Yeah. Whenever this dude's at. Well, no, When Trump's at home.

Cristina: Oh. When Trump's at home while watching tv.

Jack: Turns on tv, he's just knocked the f*** out. It's critical hit. Super effective.

Cristina: Okay, so he falls off the White.

Jack: House, though, asleep, into a fiery pit of the White House, but Sleepy Joe's asleep, and he burns to death, too. And then we have an anarchistic country that happens to. Functions to. To our surprise, way better. And then peace is established in the United States, and then the rest of the world realizes we should have probably been in an anarchistic state where people make rules amongst each other. And then if somebody is just killing for no reason or abusing people.

Cristina: This is the future you're talking about. When Trump wins again or when Joe Biden is running again or what? Where is this taking place? Is it taking place right now? Did it already take place?

Jack: This is taking place in 2024.

Cristina: 2024.

Jack: Yeah, after. @ the last couple of minutes of the. Of the presidential race.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But neither of them can run again, can they?

Jack: They're both going to be dead, right? They die at the end of this.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: They both fall into a fiery White House that was set ablaze by the Trump supporters on their second run at the White House, the insurrection.

Cristina: So can someone else just take the. No, no, no.

Jack: This is the end of presidency because all the Trump supporters only believe Trump could be president, and all the sleepy Joe supporters believe you need to go to. And those are the only two ways to run a country. You're either sleeping or supporting Trump.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. Which is weird, because exactly this happens where people are like, wake up, sheeple. Who follow Trump, saying that the people follow Trump. Wake up, sheeple. You're following the wrong. You're being brainwashed. Which is kind of true, because a lot of politicians just kind of push it under the rug. Not to say Trump was trying to liberate anybody.

Cristina: Because he was just the people that are sleeping because Sleepy Joe, aren't they the woke people?

Jack: Well, no, that's the weirdest part. The woke people are kind of the ones asleep. Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Now, I'm not saying Trump was trying to wake anybody up. He's just an idiot who can't shut the f*** up. But as a result of not being able to shut the f*** up, he keeps informing people of what the truth is.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: While the people who were being lied to by the left are being lied to the way politicians have always lied.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They're just like, throw it under the rug. Like, still to this day, nobody understands vaccines.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Because propaganda.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: By the left.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Nobody understands vaccines. Obviously. The right is also stupid. It's poisoning you, you f****** idiot. You don't know how s*** works. But the left is also really dumb. Everybody. I got a vaccine to protect my daughter. From what? If you catch it, you'll still pass it. From what? What are you. You couldn't. You've been convinced that if you take the vaccine, you can't get it, you can't get it. And if you somehow. If me. If you still believe you can get it for whatever reason, you can't pass it. It's. It's very confusing. People are idiots.

Cristina: If you get it, you can't pass it. That's what they think.

Jack: If he believes he can still get it, then he believes he can't pass it. Or he believes he can't get it because he got vaccinated. Either. Or he believes one of those two things is happening. I got vaccinated, so I can't catch it. Or if I catch it, I can't pass it because he's protecting his daughter. I got my vaccine to protect my daughter.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, from what? What the f***? The rapists outside is the vaccine keeping them away? I don't get what you're protecting them from.

Cristina: You don't know that.

Jack: I mean, I guess it could be. It's the same way toilet paper protects against corona.

Cristina: Exactly. Like, doesn't really need to make sense. It just has to sound right.

Jack: It just has to sound right. And this is all propaganda, man. It's crazy. People don't know s***. The woke people are, tragically, the ones following Trump and the people who are calling themselves woke, or tragically, the ones the most asleep. Not to say that the ones following Trump are really woke. It's just compared to the ones following anything else, essentially. Like, if you're on a political team and it's not Trump. You're more asleep than if you're following Trump. But you're not, like, fully woke if you're following Trump, because Trump's also just a troll.

Cristina: Anyone awake?

Jack: No, nobody's fully awake.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because Trump's not out to help you. No, he's out for.

Cristina: Is he awake?

Jack: He's. He. H*** yeah. Trump knows, bro. And he knows of his followers are morons that will follow anything he says and believe whatever the h***. He's fully aware of that, and he abuses that fact. Trump followers are dumb, bro. They're stupid, bro. But, like, Miles, we're talking s***. You could prove yourself in your kitchen with just random s*** at random times of day. You don't even need to, like, you don't need a list of it. You can just prove things that he has spewed and prove them wrong. But they're more right than the other side, which is where the problem is. Because they can be like, but you're wrong. And it's like, okay, you're right about that, but you're not right. You're just right about them being wrong. What?

Cristina: Wait, what?

Jack: The Trump followers are right in calling the left wrong. Okay, but they themselves aren't right. But they think that because they can prove the other side is wrong. They have proven that they're right. No, you've proven that they're wrong.

Cristina: Okay, then who's right?

Jack: Nobody, because you're following a bunch of politicians who are out for themselves and pinning you against each other so that they can manipulate change the laws around you to milk you for your money.

Cristina: Who can people trust, though?

Jack: Me.

Cristina: You?

Jack: I will literally just blow up the rabbit, people.

Cristina: The rabbit You. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: And then our problem is solved because they're coming to attack us.

Cristina: How do we know that?

Jack: We don't. But let's assume they are to protect ourselves. Because if we don't assume they are.

Cristina: That'S what we did with them.

Jack: If we don't assume they're coming to kill us and they come to this planet and they befriend us, and then they flip overnight order 66 us, then. Then what do we do? We didn't see it coming.

Cristina: 66 US?

Jack: Yeah, it's a Star wars order that was given to the clones that flipped them and they killed all the Jedi.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, they order 66 us because their leader gave the orders time to dispose of the humans and they could build a f****** like Death Star. Come on. We're not winning, so we gotta stop them before they get Here. Are they coming to kill us? I can't tell you for sure, but do we want to find out if they're coming here to kill us?

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: I mean, it's real.

Cristina: It's real.

Jack: It's real. Like, maybe we just need to let it happen.

Cristina: What if that's the solution?

Jack: Just the rest of the universe is at peace after that?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No more humans. Universe at peace.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, what if every. Like there's mad crap happening around us because we exist?

Jack: Yeah, it could totally be. Chances are the 90,000 satellites that we've put into space is f****** something up.

Cristina: Yeah. What if one of them turned alive and it's like. It's a robot destroying a world in some other.

Jack: It's totally possible. Look, a bunch of crash together.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Some sort of sentient thinking satellite.

Cristina: What if that happens?

Jack: And then we keep sending technology that keeps getting destroyed out here, and it just sends signals that reanimates it. And he builds an army of a bunch of different machines that slowly then start to form a sort of hive mentality. Eventually, some other race lands on the. Hey, there's some technologies on here. Let's go see it. And the machine attacks them and then merges with their body. And now they have a physical being with rocket technology already prepared because they landed there. And they use that rocket technology to leave and go land on some other planet where there's an entire civilization. And they, hey, look at this cool cyborg thing that came to visit us. And it's like, yes, I'm a cool cyborg. I came to visit you in the middle of the night. Just starts turning people into robots before you know it.

Cristina: Exactly. Oh, what if we started the Borg without even knowing?

Jack: I mean, the Borg were human.

Cristina: The original one.

Jack: I believe so. I think they were human to begin with. And there's something about time travel or some crap like that that is really complicated.

Cristina: What? So, yeah, okay.

Jack: We could have started the Borg.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, that theory that f******. Oh, my God. That's never going to leave my mind.

Cristina: The Terminator.

Jack: The Terminator came back in time to stop Connor because Connor in the future is Neo. Get the f*** out of here.

Cristina: That's crazy. Yeah. What if we made that though somewhere else?

Jack: Yeah, man. It's totally possible. It's totally possible.

Cristina: We don't know what we're doing.

Jack: We don't.

Cristina: That's why those rabbits are coming here.

Jack: Look, it's possible. We don't know. But also, like, I like awareness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So it's like, we might be the problem. But also I like awareness.

Cristina: Yeah. So let's live and then after we're dead though the world.

Jack: No, no, no. We stopped them from coming here. For whatever reason they're coming here. In fact, we don't just stop them from coming here. I'm not really just. I'm over just murdering people. We have no cockroach people on Mars that we can question and study.

Cristina: We have your wife.

Jack: Yeah, but I'm not gonna do that to her. Okay, that's a problem. You know, so rather than just blowing up a problem. Fair enough. We're surprised we're gonna blow up, but we're gonna send a team over there to kidnap an entire few families of these rabbit. Yeah. So we can torture them primarily and also maybe question them. If we're torturing them, we're already at it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Might as well get some questions.

Cristina: Maybe the questions first and then the torture. I don't know, I don't know how it works. I mean, combo of both.

Jack: I mean, if we want to learn about them, I guess we can question them primarily. Just torture them would be cool.

Cristina: But I don't know, we should confuse them. Like I'm sure they'll be confused, give them presents randomly. Oh, I like that. I don't know those part of the torture.

Jack: And also we should test to see how similar to earth rabbits they are. Are Earth rabbits? Is Earth just a giant TV show like in South Park?

Cristina: Yes. Where's zoo?

Jack: Where just a bunch of random s*** was put. And it's like, let's see how it works out. But it's like there were sentient f****** like fully aware, conscious, technologically advanced rabbits. We know it. They're coming our way. So are they related?

Cristina: Are they on the moon? Where are these robots?

Jack: No, I mean rabbits on a Death Star.

Cristina: On a Death Star somehow related to Trump. You said he's on that Death Star.

Jack: No, he's gonna board a Star Destroyer and head there and then he's gonna return for the presidential election where he's gonna die in an epic battle with Sleepy Joe on top of the White House.

Cristina: But his army are the rabbits.

Jack: Well, his army, I guess, when he's attacking because there is gonna be an epic shoot shooting battle where we're shooting up and they're shooting down and like stuff is gonna, is gonna go down or maybe they win. We don't want to find out. Okay, we're gonna change history.

Cristina: Is he secretly a rabbit? Like how does he communicate with them?

Jack: They probably have, they have a Death Star. I'm sure they have A translator.

Cristina: Okay, what does he have? Oh, he has the horse, Space Force. But that's being still run by him.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's still run by him. Nobody runs Space Force but Trump. That's where he's hiding right now, at.

Cristina: Space Force headquarters with them at this moment to take over.

Jack: The Star Destroyer is being built so he could board it and fly up to the Death Star.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: And then join them in their attack of Earth.

Cristina: So we gotta stop them before that happens.

Jack: Before that happens.

Cristina: I don't know, but that sounds really epic.

Jack: Sounds cool, right?

Cristina: Yes. The giant white house thing. Like, couldn't we just wait and watch that and then have some kind of plan to stop it at that moment?

Jack: Look, if we did watch that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We need to hire a film crew to capture it in the greatest lighting from the best angles so that later we can play this to the public and wake them up to the fact that there was an epic fight.

Cristina: I don't know if we should do that. I feel like that's how our. We will die and get clones.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: I don't know. Are we supposed to be. I don't know. What?

Jack: We don't work for the government.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: We expose the government.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. It's a very confusing job. I don't know what we can say.

Jack: Do nothing bad about the Illuminati because they are great.

Cristina: Okay. That's it.

Jack: Everybody else sucks and lies to the people. The Illuminati tells them the truth when.

Cristina: The government works for the Illuminati. Was Trump works for the Illuminati?

Jack: No. It doesn't matter because we're not talking s*** about the Illuminati. Trump is clearly correct.

Cristina: Name is out of the table.

Jack: But anyone else out of the table.

Cristina: Who could be related to them and Jesus, maybe.

Jack: We're not sure. We haven't been killed yet.

Cristina: And Jesus.

Jack: We talked a lot of s*** about Jesus. We haven't died yet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So I think we might have touched something wrong when we were like, is Jesus Lucifer? And does Lucifer run the government or the Illuminati?

Cristina: Whatever. Yeah.

Jack: And it's like, okay, maybe we got a little close to fire there. But I don't know if that's accurate because nothing has happened to us.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: Like, our. Our boss is probably Lucifer.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: Like, probably. Probably.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: But is he Jesus? Well, we've talked a lot of s*** about Jesus, and we know the boss of the Illuminati will just get rid of us.

Jack: So it's probably Just Lucifer. Probably work for the devil.

Cristina: I don't know. Or it could be a robot. I don't know. Yeah, like, it could be any. It could be a rabbit person for all we know.

Jack: He could. That's the craziest f****** plot twist. It could totally be.

Cristina: It could be anything.

Jack: It could totally be rabbit.

Cristina: Could have been a roach person. But I feel like we'd be dead now if it was a roach person.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Or maybe that's why one of our clones died was because it was the roach people and they didn't like what we did because we were involved in that roach war that I did not want to be a part of.

Jack: Well, no, because we specifically died for talking s***. The very next time is when those clones were gotten rid of.

Cristina: Mmm. Okay, so it's not the roach people. Okay.

Jack: I mean, it could be the roach people, but it wasn't because of what happened to the roach people. Because then we would have died immediately after what happened to the roach people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which wasn't the case.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It could be a rabbit person as well. But, like, what the f*** are they on their way for then? There's already running the show.

Cristina: Okay, so what are we gonna do? We're gonna let them come here? We're gonna stop them before.

Jack: I mean, I like the idea of recording the epic battle.

Cristina: Well, we still had to find God. Well, that happens before that because that's in 2001.

Jack: 2004.

Cristina: 24. So, yeah. Yeah, we got a while for that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, we got a regular head groundhog that we already got, you know, hoping to see how that goes. My throat's healing up. I can talk.

Cristina: Yeah. So we're gonna meet God before that.

Jack: Yeah, we're meeting God way before Trump runs again. And there's an epic space battle for Earth and the White House between Sleepy Joe and Donald Trump.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: I don't know which part is cooler, but it's happening. Maybe God will watch the fight with us.

Jack: Maybe God knows the right connect to have the best film crew record this.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Maybe you can just talk to Colin Bressler.

Cristina: Colin?

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Cristina: He could help us get him to come back.

Jack: And it's like, colin, this is your day, bro. We need you to record Donald Trump and Sleepy Joe fighting to the death.

Cristina: Atop of a flaming white house.

Jack: A flaming white house? Yeah.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Which was set ablaze by the Trump supporters on the second Insurrection.

Cristina: And then somehow the Death Star is coming.

Jack: Yes, that's where Trump is on. He's gonna Be on the Death Star by that point.

Cristina: Oh, he comes down through the Death Star. The Death Star doesn't do anything. It just.

Jack: It's gonna be shooting at Earth with laser. With lasers and stuff. And then all the weird laser weapons that we didn't know Earth had are suddenly gonna, like, random holes on the floor gonna open, and, like, up is gonna come giant laser weapons.

Cristina: How do we have laser weapons in the pyramids? Why do we need random.

Jack: It's not a laser weapon. It's a transportation device.

Cristina: I thought it was both.

Jack: I mean, I guess configure it for that. That was just a theory. The conclusion was it's a transporter.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: It's a teleport across the universe.

Cristina: I thought it was one and then became the other. I don't know.

Jack: That's how the cat people got to the great void.

Cristina: Oh, so we have to find lasers.

Jack: Yeah. And the whole point of getting God is to get to the cat people. So we got a lot of people. There's cat people, there's rabbit people, there's cockroach people, there's reptile people and.

Cristina: No elephant people.

Jack: No elephant people. The flip side, the interesting part about this is that talking back about the groundhog known as God, we suspect that he is in the shadow realm.

Cristina: The shadow who? Oh, the beaver. Okay, groundhog. I mean, groundhog.

Jack: The groundhog known as God is in the shadow realm. And we were talking about how similar some of this stuff sounded to Shinto that also has, like, spirits from this other side and some similar behaviors we've noticed. And the shadow realm and crap like that. And I.

Cristina: You mentioned Shinto and something else. Or you found out that the other thing was. Was actually just Shinto.

Jack: What was the other thing?

Cristina: I don't know. You were con. You thought there was two things.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It turned out just to be Shinto, but. So I went down the Shinto rabbit hole.

Cristina: Rabbit hole. Okay.

Jack: I went down the Shinto rab.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And isn't it weird? There's just like a bunch of supernatural ghostly things and a bunch of sciency s*** that happens around us all the time that the rest of the world doesn't even know happens.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What a weird reality that we exist in.

Cristina: So what's happening in the Shinto rabbit hole?

Jack: So the Shinto rabbit hole we. So I jumped in, I looked at. I did a bunch of extensive research about Shinto to see how accurate we are about spirits and stuff and whether adrenochrome is there and, like, what's happening you know all these details. Okay, so let's go through a couple of things. Shinto is considered the religion of nature.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Similar to Native American spiritualism, it is the only other thing considered to be purely based on nature.

Cristina: Those are the two.

Jack: Yes. And both of these two belief systems do not have scripture. That is very important. They do not have any scripture that dictates anything. So you don't have morality codes. There's no right or wrong.

Cristina: Do you have, like, stories or something?

Jack: No, there's no scriptures. Nothing.

Cristina: There's nothing.

Jack: There's nothing. People made things afterwards of personal experience, but there's no scripture.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: There is just the belief that you protect nature. Now, what's weird about this is that these two belief systems happened. One in the United States. Well, not the United States. America before the United States, in Gaia. And the other one happened in Japan.

Cristina: Very opposite.

Jack: Very like. Yeah, we're pretty far away from each other. And the belief systems are very similar. It's both of nature and the spirits of nature and how everything is alive. And you want to create harmony or nature will turn on you, but has.

Cristina: To do with spirits and stuff. Right.

Jack: This is the best way to convey. At least in Shinto. Yeah, it's the best way to convey it as spirits. While in spiritualism, Native American spiritualism, it's closer to, like, all things are consciously living at all times, even in a way we don't comprehend. But if you were to simplify it, it's ultimately the spirit of the thing. Okay, so those are, like, baseline things to think about. The spirits are called kami, at least in Japan, in the Shinto, because we're not really talking about Native American spiritualism. Visit that one day. And it focuses on the spirits that inhabit all things. So rivers, mountains, waterfalls, everything that's in nature. Yeah, the natural world, the spirits of the natural world. And a lot of the traditions that take place, take place around shrines. And shrines are usually placed next to whatever thing it is that has the spirit that you're catering to.

Cristina: Is the shrine like a gateway or it's just like a tombstone? Like.

Jack: Well, the shrine is possibly a gateway. Could be. It could also be some sort of focal point or something. So we know that we need fear. Fear to, like, sufficient amounts of fear. Summons. That's the best word associated with Shinto. Summons the creature. Right. We know that if you are scared enough, you can summon a wet judge. You can summon a. By accident. Not literally summon, but the manifest.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because they need the fear or adrenochrome. Those are the two things?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So they manifest on this side from the should they exist in the shadow realm. And the more concentrated fear there is, the more they can manifest on this side as a sort of ethereal kind of being. It looks like the shrine's purpose is ultimately something along those lines. Obviously, the teachings of Shinto don't say it that way.

Cristina: Don't include fear or blood or anything.

Jack: The shrine is where you go to worship the kamiyah and offer your offerings towards the kami. So you go there to pray, you take it food, you take it money, you do these things for the kami. Great. Fantastic. Phenomenal. But the reason that you pray to the kami and this actually goes to the priests. So there's priests that usually take care of the shrine, and the priests are usually called kanushi. The kanushi, they're praying to him? No, the people are praying to the kami.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: The priests purpose there is to maintain the shrine and also be part of the offerings and things that are given to the kami. He helps and assists with all that, maintains the shrine, keeps it clean and helps along with worship when people. When there's celebrations and stuff, when the seasons change and stuff, there's worship rituals and whatnot. But the purpose of these worships and the very specific purpose of the kami, which I found very fascinating that they chose this word selection, was to establish harmony between humans and the kami. The idea being that the kami are otherwise naturally hostile to people, which I find interesting.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then there's a location where you can bring it things. There's a. So how the prayer goes, you bring it the offering, you ring a bell to attract its attention, you clap and then you pray. So you give it an offering. Yeah, the bell. You bring the offering first. You ring the bell to attract its attention, you clap, and then you pray. And so you've attracted its attention and the process begins. And then you pray and whatever. And so you're trying to make it happy. The commie is trying to be happy because you're trying to make it.

Cristina: But the priest is making sure that it won't like attack or something.

Jack: Yes, the priest guides the big rituals. And the priest is there consistently keeping the kami at bay or unaggressive.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: So that's very, very interesting because there is aggression there which falls perfectly in line with the creatures of the shadow realm when they manifest on our side, at least the majority of them, they manifest. And they seem aggressive.

Cristina: Yes, they do.

Jack: Which I Find interesting.

Cristina: Maybe because they're not offering the right things.

Jack: No, the offerings are to bring them down.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The offering is to calm it down. So they are creatures. Now, here's the interesting point. You come here to give it an offering to assist with calming it down. You're already assuming it needs to be calmed down. You have a tiny little bit of fear.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: And there's a focal point where, throughout the course of the day, many people are gonna pass by that same spot.

Cristina: With enough fear building up throughout the day.

Jack: Yes. Tiny little increments, but enough people throughout the course of the day. Weeks, months. Just feeding this commie and allowing it to remain on this side.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: There is a way to summon these things intentionally.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And the shrine is the way to do it.

Cristina: And sometimes they are aggressive to people. They probably have killed people too, in stories that they've told of these things.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. It's totally possible. And, yeah, the stories do say that there are, like. Of course, there's no way to prove it, but there's also no way to disprove it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So it seems like, yes, the shrine is a focal point, a gateway. I don't know. Because it seems like the only real way across for somebody from this side is adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah. And for them, who knows how they get here? Fear they have. Oh, fear.

Jack: They manifest with fear.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So a shrine allows a focal point where people continuously cross. They keep coming to the same spot with that same amount of fear. You're coming there to. Hopefully I can help in assisting the angry kami. Calms down.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so that happens 20, 30, 40, 50 times a day.

Cristina: And it's slowly feeding on you.

Jack: And it slowly feeds on that energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And allows it to remain on this side. While if the shrines were destroyed and people were no longer coming through, Maybe there'd be nothing.

Cristina: Maybe there'd be nothing. No, that can't. That can't be right.

Jack: It needs the fear to manifest. This was tactically placed here by somebody who was fully aware of the kami ahead of time. And allowing the kami to manifest, it's possible that the first iteration of the groundhog known as Jehovah, was through some sort of shrine. Not only that, we can argue that if people are collecting on the same field around the same hole around the same time every year.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Waiting for this groundhog is the equivalent of being around a shrine.

Cristina: I don't know if they need a shrine, though. I feel like they can come around anything, but it's just Easier to get to the trine because they know that's the spot where this food is. That will be easy for them. Because I'm pretty sure they've been attacked in other places. Like there's a lot of stories of being attacked near water.

Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You're missing the point super entirely. It's places where fear is dominant.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That is the whole point. The shrine doesn't matter.

Cristina: No.

Jack: It's the fact that people come with fear to the shrine throughout the day.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If you remove the focal point, then there's no manifestation at the focal point. You've reduced how much percent. There's a hundred thousand shrines in Japan.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: If you destroyed all hundred thousand and people just stopped coming because there's no more shrines to go to. You're not collecting the fear energy anywhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And thus you have less creatures from the shadow realm coming to the mortal realm.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Now God the groundhog is doing the same thing with people collecting to tell us the weather, the seasons or whatever f*** is happening.

Cristina: Yeah. He has a specific home where he comes out of. Yes.

Jack: And it's really because there's a crap ton of people there. Now these people are already superstitious. And who are the people most likely to believe in religion?

Cristina: Superstitious.

Jack: Superstitious people. So you gather a bunch of superstitious people to follow a superstition around a place in which a person that require and they're fearing what? It's a United States. It's most likely they're fearing God. So a bunch of God fearing people come around and they're already fearing for the season. You know, season. Hopefully our crops, man. Oh my God.

Cristina: We might starve to death in winter.

Jack: Crops manifestation. Groundhog suddenly shows up. It all falls into place.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it seems like the creator of Shinto was fully aware of the shadow realm. Not only that he was trying to merge the shadow realm with the mortal realm.

Cristina: What? He's trying to do what again?

Jack: To merge. Merge it to bring as much from over there over here. So shrines kept popping up and kept popping up as the belief was spread further. Who began spreading the belief?

Cristina: Who?

Jack: There's no way to know. I tried to find. They don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows where they know. It began in Japan. They don't know how long ago exactly. And they don't know how it began to spread.

Cristina: It spread outside of Japan.

Jack: It spread outside of Japan, but it began in Japan.

Cristina: Yeah. But can you find shrines outside of Japan?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In other Parts of Asia, primarily.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Interesting. Right? Somebody covered their tracks effectively.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So there was an attempt.

Cristina: It was Jesus. Remember he ran away to Japan after he died. He lived in a town there with his wife and children.

Jack: Interesting. That could totally be the case. And it's possible Jesus is also the one who made the. What's known now as the hole that God comes out of. But it's possible that all these things are perpetuated by the same guy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He was out here in different iterations, taking on different names, like some sort of outlaw on the run, pretending to be different people wherever he was so they couldn't be. So he couldn't be tracked.

Cristina: All this goes back to Jesus?

Jack: All this goes back to Jesus, I guess. That's weird.

Cristina: That's weird. But also, Jesus leads back to God, which I guess is the important thing.

Jack: Yeah, because really, Jesus isn't God. He's a guy who somehow knows about.

Cristina: The shadow realm because he has a special communication with God, though, through the shadow realm, I'm guessing.

Jack: How did he get that communication to begin with?

Cristina: Psst. I don't know.

Jack: I mean, I guess. I guess his drinking blood. Because we know Jesus is the first vampire.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Which means he has already some form of access to the shadow room. We know he did in fact, die.

Cristina: Yes, but he came back.

Jack: Well, he went to the shadow realm. That means even the Jesus we see.

Cristina: It'S the vampire Jesus.

Jack: That was interesting, because he died as a vampire. Well, he's only a zombie when it's feral.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And he had the vampire things going on. That's how he was doing his magic tricks and confusing people and crap like that. And then he got killed for being a vampire, essentially. And then because he was so hopped up and so well medicated on adrenochrome, his soul crosses over to the shadow realm, where he then meets God and communicating over there. And not only that, he gets over there and then he communicates with the creatures who have clean passage, like fairies and leprechauns and s***, that they can jump freely from the shadow realm into the mortal realm without needing adrenochrome. And then he's like, oh, you know what? Now that I think about this, there's one guy who's involved in all this, and it always comes back to this.

Cristina: Is it Saint Patrick?

Jack: It's Saint Patrick, bro. It's always Saint Patrick.

Cristina: How's he related?

Jack: Saint Patrick understood the fairies.

Cristina: He did? Well, he was against them, though. He got them out of Ireland. Yes.

Jack: How does he know how to remove a creature that is pure magic.

Cristina: He.

Jack: He had weird. He's like salmon, Dean. He had weird research that the rest of us didn't have access to.

Cristina: Well, supposedly God helped him.

Jack: God wasn't real yet. He had the stories of God and like, you know, all these BS things. Yes, but somehow the fairies and leprechauns, I could freely jump back and forth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Jesus on the other side, having been a native to decide and the first person to consume copious amounts of adrenochrome, thus allowing him to be the first person to cross over and then realize, holy s***.

Cristina: Maybe he knew the truth about Jesus because we know that the church is keeping secrets because they create monsters themselves.

Jack: Yeah, fair enough.

Cristina: So he might have that knowledge.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. So you think. Well, he's actually. Where? He works for the church.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: So you think he knew about the death of Jesus and then St. Patrick decided, what if I can summon. No, you got to know you can summon him first. That's the problem. It doesn't matter what creatures you're making on this side. They fade out to the other side. Then what they're do to going, gone. Okay, great. But how do you know you can bring something back? There's a point here in which shrines are coming up to bring s*** from the shadow realm. That's the part that's missing. And somehow Jesus from that side, already dead, only took three days to figure it out and pop up on the other side.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Was it the fear of his family?

Cristina: What?

Jack: The fear of his family. Now he can see his family from that side. He sees them as ghosts, as faded people walking around. But they don't see him. That's how the shadow realm works. Yeah, so is the fear they're feeling that they're gonna come for us now because we were his family. Did that help him manifest? And then he pops up and he's like, holy, I'm on this side.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Because they kept visiting the grave too.

Cristina: Yes. Maybe the grave created some type of portal he just came through. From their fear, he manifested.

Jack: Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That their continuous visit of the grave created enough focused fear because they're gonna come for us eventually.

Cristina: Maybe not just his family, but like, all the followers.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Anybody on anyone? Yeah.

Jack: And so this immense amount of. We're all gonna die. They killed him. They're coming for us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: There's so much fear that he popped up. That he popped up?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean, there were 12 other vampires, bro. Let's be real. They were scared, too. They're like, oh, s***, we're next.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: There was enough fear going around. And then he pops up, and then a moment comes and he goes. And he's like, okay, I have no idea what the f*** is happening, but I feel I'm fading away. I need you guys to figure out, because I saw the other side and I was there. I was there. Let's call it Heaven. He didn't have a name for yet. Shadow Realm, obviously. But let's call it Heaven. And I'm on the other side. I saw it. I was there. I witnessed it. Look, guys, I feel like the opposite of the feeling I had coming over here is currently happening to me. So I'm assuming if that's the case, it means I'm fading away the same way I faded in before. That happens. I'm here. Look. You guys see me? Everybody sees me. Yes, we all see you. We don't know how the f*** you're here, but, yeah, okay.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Something happened. Figure it the f*** out.

Cristina: And you think they figured it out?

Jack: Twelve apostles who are fully aware and communicated with Jesus firsthand after his death.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And now they know there's something else, and we can bring him back. We don't know how it happened, but we know what happened. He doesn't know how it happened either.

Cristina: And they sent him to Japan after that.

Jack: Well, I don't know. He was already in Japan, probably. Oh, hidden Japan. I don't know. Do some.

Cristina: And then how does Ireland.

Jack: I don't know. I was just assuming that this douchebag who has connections to crap coming in and out was probably connected, but probably not. He's probably just making monsters himself. Who knows? But we know Jesus came back. Yes, probably because of the fear of everybody. And he got it. We know he communicated with everybody. And then he's gone again. Right. Some step is missing there that then led to shrines.

Cristina: Besides that, he just goes there and he makes.

Jack: He probably went and talked to fairies, right? And he's like, do you guys know. Do you guys get it? It's like, well, we have clean passage, but. But the reason you popped up over there is simply because fear, energy pushes you over there. Maybe he got the information from some leprechauns, some fairies. They were just like, well, really? Really. If people are scared enough, some of these creatures have the ability. Most of anything in here can just manifest on that side. Fear is the connecting link.

Cristina: Yeah. I didn't feel like he would have known that somehow because of the Whole blood drinking.

Jack: Well, no, he wasn't drinking blood to cross over. He was drinking blood for its attributes of power.

Cristina: Oh, okay. He was probably knowing that.

Jack: No idea Shadow Realm existed.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Gotta hold the blood. He's like, wow, I'm strong. Holy s***, I'm smarter. He didn't, like, think Shadow Realm. Oh, yeah, Blood equals Shadow Realm.

Cristina: If it makes him smarter. Maybe he figured it out once he was brought back. He was like, oh, crap, I saw that you guys were sad or whatever.

Jack: Like, that's loose, thoughts connected, you need some confirmation. Which I'm.

Cristina: Well, maybe that's what he tested out in Japan with the temple temples. Maybe those were tests.

Jack: I don't think they were tests. I think the shrines were there intentionally. Some information had to be solid. It wasn't like a random gamble. That would make zero sense for him to just conclude.

Cristina: No, because then the world would be covered in temples, though. Why would he just cover one place in temples? I feel like once he realized I don't need these temples, like, this was a good practice and they did work, but I don't actually need it because in other places it still works the same.

Jack: No, no, no, no. Because you're missing one very important piece.

Cristina: What's that?

Jack: How religion itself changed in structure to say, you're not just all gonna die, only those of you who haven't repented. So you can go and ask for forgiveness. Where?

Cristina: The church.

Jack: The church. Okay, now the church has a greater purpose other than it doesn't matter where you are when you are. No. Take your fear to one spot and be cleansed there. Because God now does a cleansing process the same way the kami. You go there, you pray to create that harmony.

Cristina: Yeah. I think he brought that knowledge and then did the church thing. Like that was Tess. It worked out. But he's like, how can I do continue?

Jack: I think it was Tess. I think it was functional. Yeah, I think it was all functional. Because the problem is the date in which this starts is precisely the dates surrounding Jesus. It's all around the first couple of years that we count.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Which means it wasn't that he ran tests and then. Oh, they work. Let me go over there and apply it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No, no, no. It happened simultaneously everywhere on Earth.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Everything just changed. To go into the building and you will be forgiven.

Cristina: Oh, at the same time as the temple?

Jack: At the same time as the temples.

Cristina: Huh? I wonder why. I guess just because it made more sense in the different places.

Jack: The problem is we already had churches.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it wasn't doing that beforehand. So it was impossible for us to connect the dots because it was just like, well, religions naturally evolve over time, blah, blah, blah. No, but this didn't exist in Japan.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They just suddenly had shrines.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so that gives us the information we need because at the same time, the shrines showed up also. New Testament forgiving God, so long as you go and get forgiven.

Cristina: Yes, but then it all leads back to Jesus, though.

Jack: It all leads back to Jesus.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes, but it wasn't a test. No, it was definitely not a test. Because if it was a test, there would be a discrepancy in time.

Cristina: No, but I guess he might have tried to bring the church to those places, but it didn't work out. So he was like, oh, these temples worked out.

Jack: No, there's no need for the church. He affected the churches that already existed because there were already churches.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But had there not been churches, he would have just thrown temples because there's no reason to. How long would it take to influence an entire thing with a whole religion? Just abuse the religion they already have.

Cristina: Okay, okay, I see.

Jack: This way you could show up anywhere whenever you want.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: As opposed to slowly picking at, we gotta force religion to. Well, let me show up where my homies are and tell them, hey, guys, I can't show up over there. Go and force religion over there. It might take 300 years, but sometimes.

Cristina: That did happen, though.

Jack: Yeah, but no, they were. They already had their own religion. Oh, and then Christianity tried to force itself on there because while Shinto has a shrine, it doesn't have mass. So people show up independently. Yeah, when they want. There's no central. Nobody controls Shinto. There's no center, focus. So you go, you pray whenever you want, however you want, whatever you feel like it. But you come with that little bit of fear. You don't even realize you have the difference between churches. You can manifest Jesus easy. Put a hundred people in a room all at the same time.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Nevertheless, he tricked everybody into thinking a specific day is better than all the others. So you can. Can get a bunch of people collected in a bunch of places all at the same time and have mass fear energy accumulated, allowing him to move freely through earth.

Cristina: Yes, this makes sense.

Jack: So then they start pushing that where other religions just had small numbers. But important enough was at least he could already show up over there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it was a matter of we need them to be able to believe they could be forgiven or cleansed by going to this specific location, allowing me to manifest. And then Move freely.

Cristina: That's pretty amazing. Maybe he made some type of deal with these creatures because there had to be other creatures that wanted the same type of travel crap.

Jack: Ton of creatures coming through.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Problem is, too many of them are just feral creatures. Yes, a wolf that just ate a human.

Cristina: But that's why the church are fighting those creatures with their own creatures. Oh, maybe they were fighting not for good, but just for control. They have to get rid of those type of aggressive creatures for their own creatures to be okay.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: That's pretty cool.

Jack: I mean, not for their own creatures to be okay. They made creatures to fight the creatures. It was to keep the people okay.

Cristina: Yeah, because they still need enough people to make the fear to get the person that they actually care about moving around and whatever.

Jack: The church probably had no idea. There's no way the church would intentionally allow people to come from the dead. That would defeat too many purposes and too many already established narratives. You gotta understand, a single con man was in charge here. The same con man that was conning everybody all the time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's no giant conspiracy of the Church trying to bring people over?

Cristina: No, I'm not saying that. Just to protect what he wants. Protected? I don't know.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: That they're fighting off these creatures so that we don't die.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Because they need that blood to continue doing magic and whatever.

Jack: Got you. Yes, yes. I thought you meant like they wanted the churches and the shrines and crap to bring things from the other side.

Cristina: No, I mean, maybe Jesus, but yeah, Jesus, definitely. And there are other saints because supposedly saints are all magical beings as well.

Jack: Say it again.

Cristina: The saints are also magical beings as well. So they might also be bringing back those people. I don't know. I know. Their blood is magic.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: I don't know if it relates.

Jack: Probably. I'm assuming anybody who worked for the church had some connection to adrenochrome. Ah, yes, because that's the lineage that Jesus left behind. But he left behind a special secret when he showed up in person after his death. And the only people who knew that were the 12 apostles. Aka the other vampires.

Cristina: Yes. You think those vampires are still around?

Jack: They could be. We know that there's ancients. Are those the ancient vampires?

Cristina: Maybe the ancients, yeah, there's some that.

Jack: Are recorded having died. They're in the Bible. You know, they biblically lost their lives. I don't know if all of them dead. I don't remember if all of them died. Those might be the ancients. They might still be around some of. And I know that, man. It's possible that Muhammad is just Jesus by a different name. Because the other question here is, if the fear is consistent enough and you from the shadow realm know how to use it well enough, can you just permanently exist over here? You know, like, if it's permanently. Yeah. So you're wild, wet judge. You're in the shadow realm, and you require fear to show up. People in Japan call you a kami, and they tame you by giving you offerings and distractions, and then you don't hurt people. But you're not aware that you can wander the shadow realm to different pockets of this energy because you're just a wild animal and you're protecting your territory. You're in one area, and it's a similar replica of the mortal realm in the shadow realm. So, you know, like any other animal, you hang out in your territory.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But Jesus is like, I can like, pop in and now where the f*** I want. Because I have the conscious awareness that I can go wherever. Which then brings up an interesting point. People who are haunted by spirits of other people can be haunted by those spirits anywhere they go. You could live in this house, be haunted. You could go across the planet and realize you're still being haunted. And it's because that's a thinking person who's in the other side and knows, yeah, they can go to this other spot and use that pocket of energy.

Cristina: But those aren't ghosts, are they? They're just creatures that look like you're jinn. Yeah, like, I forgot. What's that lady called? The Weeping? No, the Banshee.

Jack: Yeah, the banshee.

Cristina: She can follow you.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: Follows people. So. And she might not be anyone specific. Although people did come up with different histories of who she might be. Yeah, Just might be people, but might not be people. It's hard to tell.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yeah. Do we die and end up over there? I don't think so.

Jack: Well, this is the most interesting part about all this research is the fact that dead people can become kami according to Shinto belief.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yes. Which tells us a lot of what I'm saying has been confirmed.

Cristina: Okay, what, like, what kind of people become kami? Or it could just anyone.

Jack: Yeah, Anybody could become a kami.

Cristina: They don't have to do anything special.

Jack: Nope. There's no rules in Shinto.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: I wonder how they got that idea. It's got VP's original commie was Jesus. All right.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: That is what I have found and seems to be quite accurately. So now we have a better understanding of how churches and shrines, the purpose of religion and how the. The first being might have come through and thus established anywhere that there wasn't already a strong force of religion, where people already gathered together in a building. Little places where they can funnel that same energy in a different kind of way.

Cristina: It's everywhere. It's everywhere. Wow.

Jack: It's fascinating, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, we're running out of time, but conclusions for days.

Cristina: Yes. I think we have a good picture of what's going on. Almost a complete picture. Almost.

Jack: Yes. And it seems that it's possible. It might be possible for us to specifically summon Jehovah without having to wait. We might not even have to go into the Shadow Realm. We could probably just summon him.

Cristina: We could just summon him with the chance and stuff. Or some other way.

Jack: With a shrine. With a shrine bringing enough people scared, particularly of seasons and things like that, that. I guess on the flip side, if we assume that there is a portal inside of the hole, then somehow in a church, there is a portal as well. And somehow there is a way to form a portal. I guess that would be the next step to find out if there is a portal to get to the Shadow Realm without adrenochrome.

Cristina: Whoa. We gotta find that. In a church.

Jack: That would be the best place to start looking, at least.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Anywhere that would have collective amounts of energy.

Cristina: Let's go to that main place. Isn't there a giant. The King Church? The giant church where the Pope lives?

Jack: Yeah, maybe. Maybe he has the portal. Maybe he's going in and out all the time.

Cristina: Ooh, we'll find out.

Jack: Anyways, that is that. That's Shinto for you. Nice little down that rabbit hole. And it seems that it fit. I had the theory and it did.

Cristina: It did.

Jack: It did. It felt very familiar somehow. Anyways, this is actually the first time we talk about Shinto in such detail. I guess.

Cristina: Yeah. Because I think we've mentioned it a few times.

Jack: We've mentioned it, but never really gone into great detail. So we don't really have any reference points for anybody else to go and dive into that. But you can find anything else that we've talked about in any of our previous episodes.

Cristina: We've talked about commies.

Jack: Maybe we've mentioned commies. Yeah. But we've never focused on Shinto as a belief system. But yeah, you guys can definitely find those episodes and a million more on the official website. Greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts. On Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. He can't speak. I guess he chooses not to.

Jack: He might choose not to. Who says God speaks English?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Right? Like, why would he speak in a way we can comprehend by any means?

Cristina: What would it sound like?

Jack: Would it sound like. I like the. In Supernatural, when they heard Castiel's real voice and it shook and destroyed all the windows, it was just like this crazy loud and it destroyed all the windows and it made them all f****** temporarily deaf and everything.

Cristina: He did that on purpose.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And when they saw him, they went blind temporarily as well. Castiel, like his real form.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Well, the angels real form works like that. Like the God way of. Like you'll be minded.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They use vessels in order to traverse Earth for a reason.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 151: Powerful Beings

Was Jehovah a single person or a group of people? Are Jehovah’s angels just Zeus’ children rewritten? Are the soldiers in Jehovah’s army (angels) roughly as powerful as Jehovah, but they merely believe in his philosophy and follow him rather than attempting to replace him? The duo unpack the possibility that Jehovah and his angels were merely a powerful group of humans with adrenochrome on their side at war with other factions of humans achieving the same abilities awarded by adrenochrome but through other rituals and traditions. What they discover about Hitler and Jehovah in the process is something no one could have ever predicted!

Rambling 151: Powerful Beings

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Topics Discussed

  • Hitler
  • Zeus
  • Jehovah
  • Adrenochrome
  • Power
  • Biblical Giants
  • Small Humans
  • Biblical Metaphors
  • Omniscience
  • Nothingness
  • The Garden of Eden

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Jack: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released. Released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to pull someone close and scream at them that this is the show. This, the Just Conversation podcast, is the show. You're gonna be like, what do you mean? And you're gonna be like, it's the show. Be like, but what? The show.

Cristina: The what?

Jack: Which of the many? And why is this? And it's like, no, no, no, it's the show. There's one show and it's that show. It's like, no, but what about, like, Supernatural? And it's like, no, no, no, no. That's not real. Only the Just Conversation podcast is real.

Cristina: Is a real show or is real like.

Jack: No, it's a real show.

Cristina: Historically, both. Okay.

Jack: We are the show that's ever existed. Everything else is an illusion created by the Matrix. Anyway, so we were talking about how Jehovah.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: Everybody listening? We're back on this.

Cristina: Yes, whatever. We can't help it.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the angels are based on the Greek gods. We know that exact thing. Even with the Dead Sea Scrolls continuously being uncovered, all we're finding out is that it's basically a copy and paste of a bunch of Greek mythology s***.

Cristina: Yes, that sounds right.

Jack: So the same way that all the angels, all the gods were sort of equal to Zeus, maybe slightly less powerful, but they were equal in that Zeus is a demigod. He's a flesh person who you can kill and will stay dead. And all the other gods are essentially the same thing. My argument is that Jehovah, being based on this, works the same way. Now, he is the loudest, and he claims to be the one and only God, but I think all the angels are.

Cristina: Would it be equal to him?

Jack: Would be equal to him to some degree.

Cristina: Like, all the demigods would be equal.

Jack: To Zeus, all the gods to Zeus the way. All the angels to Jehovah. And the example I have is that Hitler was one man.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there were millions of soldiers under his control, but they're all men.

Cristina: I mean, they were all equal to him.

Jack: Yeah. They're all Equal to him. But we don't know any of them.

Cristina: They're superhuman.

Jack: Yeah. We don't know a single one of them. And he is not special. Hitler was not special. He was just another person.

Cristina: But he made himself special.

Jack: He made himself special. He was the loudest, he was the scariest, he was the most ruthless. And as a result, he's who we remember. The same applies for Zeus, who was particularly ruthless and violent. And same applied to Jehovah. Jehovah was what, at the beginning? Aggressive, ruthless, monstrous, murderous, destroy, whatever. Until people are like, if we stop f****** with him, he will stop retaliating. Yeah, let's just listen. And then what? He just became a passive, kind guy because, like, everything is in the orders that I wanted it to be.

Cristina: But he had to be that tough guy first.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Weird. Yes, he is. He could be just another angel. Like, angel could just be the word for God or gods or demigods or whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: 100% equal. But in all these. In all these stories about gods, whether it's Christianity or. What was the one that you just mentioned?

Jack: Greek mythology?

Cristina: Greek mythology or Norse mythology? Norse mythology. Thank you. Norse mythology. They all have giants as well in these stories. They're giants. And giants seem to be something other than human and gods, or at least that's why I feel like that's what's going on. If there are giants in the Christian book, what are they? Are they aliens?

Jack: Well, there's an interesting question there, because there are giants in the Christian Bible, especially the one that David fought.

Cristina: But in the Bible, they're human and angel babies. Right. Or something like that.

Jack: Well, Goliath wasn't. Goliath was just a giant that I believe was human.

Cristina: Oh, he was just a. But he's a giant human. He's not a giant giant. You know, like in.

Jack: No, I think he was abnormally huge. I think he was an impossible size.

Cristina: Oh, like an actual giant?

Jack: Like an actual giant.

Cristina: Oh, so then what are these giants?

Jack: Okay, so an easy argument for this would be people were smaller in the past. If you trace us far back enough, we're actually at our tallest proportion moment. Yes. Okay, well, it's complicated because it branches off in two different directions. Right. We began as smaller humans, but we were taller apes. So when we were still in the ape age.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We were pretty big.

Cristina: For apes.

Jack: For apes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And this is in the period where we started standing up on two legs and, like, looking around in that. Like, we were pretty tall around that time. Neanderthals, that kind of s***. We're talking huge. But then we enter the human ish era. We're humanoid and almost human.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then for whatever reason, there's a crazy dip and we're very small. Through the beginning of humanity, we're still.

Cristina: Big compared to apes, we're still small.

Jack: We're pretty small. We're talking like average height being anywhere between four, five and five feet.

Cristina: Whoa. Okay. What?

Jack: And we know that people can be as tall as 7ft, 9 inches, 9, 8ft. What's tallest human? Like, okay, we got huge f****** people.

Cristina: Yeah. But not many.

Jack: Almost twice the size of the average. If the average was four or five.

Cristina: Yeah. Are those giants?

Jack: So these people are technically giant? I think you're technically giant after you pass like six, six or something.

Cristina: But that's not what they're talking about in these stories.

Jack: Well, we don't know, because the problem with interpreting the Bible literally is that it's a book of metaphors to begin with.

Cristina: What about the other books, are they also metaphors?

Jack: I don't know. Assuming that these are also periods of time when they were. How do I put it? Okay. If you were to say, what is the past of Asia look like? Asians are usually pretty small. So were they smaller? Evolution tells us yes, probably. But then we look at something like Africans that are really tall.

Cristina: I don't.

Jack: If two of these people were to.

Cristina: Cross paths, would one see the other as a giant? Is that what you're saying?

Jack: Chances are in the past we would have seen the other as a giant.

Cristina: If we didn't know that they were people already.

Jack: Their skin already looks different. We've never encountered these people before. All we know is that they're humanoid, but literally twice the size of any of us.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's a giant. And when you write about that, that's a giant. And if they've never encountered you and you've never encountered them, Fear and hostility is human response, survival.

Cristina: Yeah. So they weren't really giants battling gods then. He's in a lot of these stories. It's a power, like fight between giants and gods for whatever.

Jack: I mean, for power, whatever. It's possible. Let's look at, let's compare these two situations. Right. You have Jehovah, all his angels waging war. We have Zeus, all the gods waging war.

Cristina: Yeah. And the Titans that are giants.

Jack: Yes. In these two cases we have the loudest guy who we know of and their army. Like we said, Hitler and his army.

Cristina: Okay, Right.

Jack: If this was taking place so long ago that it was let's say, I don't know the first f****** year, but the same event. So there's a guy who's a Hitler equivalent, super loud, surrounded by people just like him. But he's the loudest, he's the scariest, he's more ruthless. And there's a group of rebels who come from somewhere else. These rebels come from a. Now this Hitler is taking place in Asia. He's a short guy. We are terrorizing. We don't know if there's anything outside of Asia. We're over here terrorizing everything in Asia. Taking over, expanding, trying to explore what there is. And then these people popped out of nowhere. And they're like, that's wrong, what they're doing. But they're African. They're very tall, they're old school African. Like 6, 5, every single one of them. And over here, you're all four or five, every single one of you.

Cristina: So you're saying that these characters are probably based on humans, then it's not gods at all.

Jack: It's not gods at all. It was just some guy whose loudness was godly.

Cristina: Yeah, it's like in, what is it, North Korea, where he convinced everyone that he is pretty much God and he can't. Like, he doesn't need to use the bathroom and stuff like that. Like, there's stories like that about whoever this ruling evil dude is. This ancient Hitler.

Jack: Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. And I think that it's possible that the giants we've heard about were just an opposing team. The other people.

Cristina: The other people. Okay, I guess.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What? So it's not really. But then none of these stories matter when it comes to what could exist besides us.

Jack: Yes. Because everything is a story about us. And we just have to keep in mind that we are speaking metaphorically at all times in these books. So when we say giants. Well, what does it mean? Tall guy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When we say God, maybe people in power, people with weapons, people can cause damage. People who other people listen to because.

Cristina: They just seem magical because of that. Because they have abilities.

Jack: No, no, no. It's not even magical. Those are also just metaphors.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: Everything is a metaphor.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Everything's a metaphor. Okay, okay. Take the magic out of it.

Jack: Take the magic out of it. Yeah. It's just loud people and war and crap of that nature.

Cristina: What? I guess. And it's just a history book.

Jack: It's a history book of metaphoric stories.

Cristina: Yes, all the books.

Jack: All the books.

Cristina: All the books are telling the same story, which are all metaphors.

Jack: Which is funny when you talk about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Right. And these things are being brought out, discovered, and they're just talking about the stories in the Bible, and the Christians are grabbing this s*** and running like, hey, a different book is talking about the same stories that took place in the Bible. What? And it's like, oh, my God. If you guys look at the text, you'll find out that the Bible was written using these texts, not the other way around. Not the other way around. It's not that two different groups of people saw the same events and wrote about them. It's that the Bible is based on these books who are based on those.

Cristina: Books, who are based on those other books who are based on those other books.

Jack: Like, and so the Christians are like a second. No, it's the same. It's the first version of the book you're reading?

Cristina: Yes, it's the first draft.

Jack: Yeah, it's the first draft. Well, you're like, wow, different. No, it's not different. It's the same book, but in.

Cristina: For the Dead. For the Dead Sea Scrolls. How can they read those? Is it even possible?

Jack: It's in Hebrew.

Cristina: Okay. So they can translate it somehow. Okay.

Jack: I mean, it's.

Cristina: I don't know how old they are. No, I didn't know it was still a common language that those were written in.

Jack: Oh, yeah, yeah, they were in Hebrew.

Cristina: Hasn't that language changed since then?

Jack: Yeah, but the language is still pretty, like, used pretty common. It's kind of widespread. And you can just ask somebody to read it to you. Like, the difference between Old English and now is hearing somebody talk about it. But if you were to read it, you can still pick up on what they're saying.

Cristina: Yeah, but it makes me. It reminds me of that story of that someone went through the Bible and then changed everything for other words to tell a whole new story where the Bible is actually about aliens and their experiment with humans and they were using the Hebrew language and giving different meanings, but it's the same word. But I guess that word has multiple meanings, so you can just change it to whatever you want it to mean, as long as it's the word. Because that word could mean. You know what I mean?

Jack: Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about and who you're talking about. I forget his name, but I know what you mean. And in the case that you're currently talking about the Bible being the story about aliens or whatever, out of the two possibilities that we're faced with, either say the Bible is being Literal? Well, in assuming the Bible is telling real events that were of supernatural proportions, at least us.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: Whether it be powers or science, the latter seems more likely because the words that they have in the time that the words were being used and written actually align more with the guy's argument about it being associated with foreignness and aliens as opposed to gods and perfection. So it's more likely that what they meant was aliens. That is fact.

Cristina: But I'm assuming no one's going to read those scrolls in using that way.

Jack: Of thinking, because they're already going to say that. Well, at least if they're Christian, they're going to look at it. Or Hebrew or anybody who believes in the religions of Jehovah.

Cristina: Yeah, they're going to translate it using those words that they're familiar with.

Jack: Yeah, the translation has to fit. It's the confirmation bias you're going to go in with. This is what it should sound like. So anything I read I gotta fix for being like this.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Versus reading it and knowing how the words were used at the time that it was written. So what they most likely mean which the guy you're talking about wrote a book explaining how the words were used previously.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And how when they were written in the Bible, there's no way they could have meant water when they meant the heavens or something like that.

Cristina: Yeah, he gets really into it.

Jack: Yes, I can remember his name. Name. But yeah, I know who you're talking about. In any case, it's always more likely than that there are aliens, than that there is a divine being who designed anything and everything somehow existing from outside reality.

Cristina: There can't be something outside. I don't be.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense. In fact, the idea that something or.

Cristina: They can be, but it can't be inside too.

Jack: The idea that something even thinks is an idea from within reality.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oh, that's how complicated it is. Even the concept of perception, awareness. Consciousness is inside is a concept that exists within reality. For anything to have awareness and make everything else, you would have needed awareness to begin with, which is impossible to have it before reality in which that came to be exists.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So there could not be just definitively there could not be a God based on that. At least not an omniscient everywhere, all the time God, No. And the best we have for that is still from within reality. Which is to say, how did our universe come to be? And that's where we have nothingness observed by consciousness. We still don't know where the place where those two Things are is we know it's within. I guess it's reality.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Even if there's no universe, there's no space, time. There is just nothingness and consciousness. Those things still exist within reality.

Cristina: Can we prove that there's nothing? No, we can't.

Jack: No, it would be impossible.

Cristina: This is a question. You have to ask it. I don't know. I know there's no answer to that, but it's just.

Jack: Yes. The answer is there is nothing. There's as much nothing as there is something. They're both infinite.

Cristina: But can you prove it? How do you prove that nothing's there?

Jack: By proving that something is here.

Cristina: And that's enough.

Jack: It's easy. In order for something to be in a place, there must have been nothing there first. Otherwise the something could not go there because there's already something there. You need nothing there first in order to put this new something there. Okay, well, because we are here, there must have been nothing here.

Cristina: Because we are here, there must have been nothing.

Jack: Because if there was something here, we could not be here.

Cristina: Yes. That is so complicated.

Jack: Nothingness has to be just as likely as somethingness. But we can never experience a moment of nothingness, difference.

Cristina: Mmm. We cannot experience nothing that is complicated. But that's more about death than anything. That's complicated. Because then what is after life? Yeah.

Jack: More perception. Definitely.

Cristina: You don't think there could be a nothing?

Jack: We couldn't experience it no matter what we would continue to experience. That's why I don't fear death.

Cristina: Because you have to experience something.

Jack: Because the however long you experience nothing for, you'll be unaware that you experienced nothing. The example is always you die or you're dying and the light is slowly fading. And then the second it goes to black, a split second goes by, and then the light starts expanding again. And then you just pop out of somebody's v*****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you never stopped perceiving? Yeah, there was just more of the same. Or you die. You're dying. You're on your deathbed. You're an old man. You're about to leave your soul, you're about to leave your body. Everything is dying. The lights are going out. And then suddenly everything starts to fractalize and starts to break apart.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then there's just a bunch of parts everywhere. And you're still witnessing the part, but the concept of you is gone. But you're still watching the people who were your family slowly decompose into nothing that looks like just parts. You watch your body. You're Surrounded by decompose into nothing. And now you're still here, perceiving this soup of something.

Cristina: Do you? Huh? I guess. If that's true. And then you just. You're just born afterwards. Is it. Are you in the nothing? You wouldn't be born.

Jack: No, the previous scenario. You're born. In this scenario. You've died and crossed to some other plane of existence. Smooth. It was seamless. There was never here's space with nothing in it. Yeah, that never happened. You just went from, hey, you're sitting across from me. Christina, I'm on my deathbed. You come and you visit me next to my deathbed on my last moment. And you're like, hey, it was real fun to do this show with you, but you're dying. And I'm like, yeah. And then I see you. Slowly as the light goes away, you start to get fuzzier and fuzzier. And then you become so fuzzy. You're blending into the wall now because it's also fuzzy. Before long, everything is sort of uniform, but not. This is a mix of colors and stuff. And I also forget in that same progression, slowly start forgetting more and more of who I am until there is no me, There is no you. There's nothing. I don't remember anything. Because remembering is irrelevant here. Yeah, but I'm still perceiving. I've not stopped perceiving. Now I'm just seeing this mesh of colors. And now I start to decipher what this mesh of color means. And thus forming my new reality.

Cristina: That makes sense. Yes, that's probably it. Why wouldn't it be?

Jack: Why wouldn't it be? That's how we were born in the first place. We popped out, everything was a blur of colors. And we started just piecing together what that meant.

Cristina: Yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. And we're like, okay, well, this mixture always means Mom. That mixture is always Mom. That's a chair over there. Some before long. Chair. Table. Mom. Christina. Tv.

Cristina: Red. Blue.

Jack: Red. Blue. Yeah, but then I'll forget all that s*** again.

Cristina: Yes, but there's never nothing.

Jack: Couldn't be. We couldn't perceive nothing. Otherwise it wouldn't be nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The moment we can perceive it, it's something.

Cristina: It's so confusing. It's not confusing, but it is complicated. Yeah.

Jack: It's possible to discuss. Impossible to imagine.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. What's less impossible is the. What's that thing we call now The Force? What are we calling it?

Jack: Yeah, the Force.

Cristina: The Force. Guess what? In. I'm not finished with the story, though. But I'm going to talk about what I've read so far.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: In Prince Lestat, the vampires, they're not just vampires. There's a starting point, if you remember from part two. There was the first vampire, but there was something that made the first vampire.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: It was some type of creature. I don't know what it is. When I picture the creature, it looks like the thing from Fullmetal Alchemist. The little black thing with an eye from the gate. From the Gate. Well, I don't know. But he was also in the real world with their dad. He had him in a little thing.

Jack: And pride was also made out of him.

Cristina: Oh, yes, yes. Well, that thing, he's in Prince Lest. That. Well, not. He's not in that story. Or maybe he is. I'm not sure. But whatever, he was in the First Vampire, and that's how the vampires were made. And in the newest book, there is a problem with creating vampires now. And a vampire's theory is that this thing that made the first vampire, it's. It's kind of like in all the vampires. And it's reached its limit of how far it could reach with its powers or whatever. Like it has a limit. It reminds me, though, of the Force and how we say if you use the Force too much. I don't remember what happens if you talk about how it's bad to use the Force too much. The dark side is bad to abuse it. Yes, it's bad to abuse it because.

Jack: Whatever, it'll turn on you.

Cristina: It'll turn. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: You're weakening it or something.

Cristina: Yeah. So I feel like this story is pretty much following the rules, that all these other things that are like that are following.

Jack: That makes me think of the movie, the one. The one where Jet Li went around killing all the other versions of himself and every one of them he would kill would spread that one's energy amongst all the other versions of him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then where there were two, they were so inhumanly strong, they're superhuman.

Cristina: Yeah. Because that power has a limit.

Jack: Yes. So if that's what's happening in the story, then it's possible. If they just start killing vampires, the vampires who have those powers will get stronger progressively.

Cristina: Well, they get stronger progressively just by aging, too.

Jack: Yes, but if they murdered all the vampires.

Cristina: Well, there's maybe. I don't know what's happening in this world. But my guess is this creature is so tired of all the vampires that are around, it's trying to convince vampires, the older ones the strong ones to murder other vampires, all the weak ones because there's so many weak vampires. And I guess he's sick and tired of all these vampire. He's sick and tired of sharing this energy because it is him. And so he's getting these older vampires to kill them off because he is the energy. And I guess he's tired or he's being wasted and he's sick of it. So he needs some of them to die.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Does that make sense? I feel like it makes. I don't know if that's what's happening, but that's what I think is happening.

Jack: It would make sense. Yeah. You did release some of the power and spread yourself less than.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Makes sense.

Cristina: But I wonder if the force works like that too.

Jack: Possible.

Cristina: Like in the flash. It does seem like that.

Jack: Yes. There is the amount of force to go around. And if too many people are using it then other people don't have access to it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It is completely possible. Yes.

Cristina: It's interesting they all work like that.

Jack: Because you have to think that the universal energy that exists everywhere is being used by everybody. There is a sort of amount of individuals that could be tuned in at any one moment.

Cristina: There is an amount that there's.

Jack: Okay. Most people probably use the energy small time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if somebody's using a f*** ton of it somewhere in the universe, 99.99% of everything is using fractions of it and doesn't even. Like they can still use it because the chunk free is so big by comparison that that small tiny chunk could still be spread out amongst a whole planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know like everybody on earth using it at the smallest percentage. A small fraction of the force can use the force at the same time that somebody else where is using 70% of it in one shot. Because that 25 is still a ton of energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But now if two creatures or two civilizations decided to use 75% at the same time. We're not advanced enough to do that.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Or we haven't found things like that. And if we did, we could destroy this plan by acc. If somebody had that kind of power. But if somebody does and there's two of them, who knows how often these people are using it. So those people can't.

Cristina: Yeah. That would start a huge problem.

Jack: That would start a huge problem. Now we don't encounter that because we're primitive in every case. Whether it be magic, whether it be science, whatever the case, we're primitive.

Cristina: But if there's something on Earth right now because it reminds me of adrenochrome and towers falling for the blood. And what if that's also involved in.

Jack: It's not enough.

Cristina: It's not enough.

Jack: Small potatoes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're talking even the gods from within Earth, Zeus, Jehovah, these people. Right.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They could both simultaneously use the energy and it would still not. They could both use as much as they know how. And there would still be energy to go around. And it would still be an insignificant amount because they're still regional. One is from Greek.

Cristina: Yeah. But there was still problems though. But I guess that's because with each other more than. I mean, like in their little groups. There was a bigger problem.

Jack: Yeah, but doesn't. We're talking about the force. It's not causing any force disturbance.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because they can both use it effectively.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we haven't drained. Now, if everybody on Earth had the same capacity to use it that Zeus and Jehovah did, would then. That created then. Or are we still talking small potatoes because it's still one planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's something out there so powerful it took over the Great Void.

Cristina: And how could that be? If there was a limit.

Jack: If there. There is a limit.

Cristina: If there.

Jack: But they were using. And keep in mind how small the Great Void is as compared to the rest of the universe. It's so small. We look and we got to look really far and we see it really small. We just know that it's huge because we still see it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But it's far and tiny. So that took an immense amount of energy.

Cristina: That definitely did. Yeah.

Jack: If somebody did that with raw power, not just science, but using some sort of power.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Can two beings do that? Now we're talking a different scale.

Cristina: Mm. And you think they can do that?

Jack: I think yes. I don't know. Can two at the same time. But also that's such a small amount. Like, how big is the power distribution we're talking about if it's using the entire universe, if the whole universe is using the same energy source.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: How big are we talking? And like, is our universe old enough to even have beings that can wield such exaggeration? Or has it been.

Cristina: It seems like we can't all share it though. Or if we're looking at like full metal alchemists. They needed to kill people to. To share it between the powerful people that are using or whatever. Or was that not needed for the energy to be used? I feel like it related.

Jack: No, because they are using something different. They use energy to make transmutation. You Mean philosopher stones.

Cristina: Okay, that's.

Jack: No, it's the same exchange. If every one transmutation required a death.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. Then the philosopher's stone is cashing in your deaths ahead of time to then use the power later.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Same concept.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's just. When are you paying?

Cristina: Yeah. That is so complicated. That's. That's. That show is just so dark. But there is a limit. But there's no way to reach that limit.

Jack: There is a way to reach that limit. We just don't know what.

Cristina: We can't reach it.

Jack: Yeah. And we can't fathom what would there should be. Because there is a limit.

Cristina: Has someone reached that limit?

Jack: Probably not. What is the lifetime of God? What. What. What numbers would we give if he can outlive our entire universe? In fact, our entire universe is the fraction of a second to God. But he lives 100 years his time. So if a fraction of a second. Right. We hadron collider. We smash two atoms together. Boom. The conditions of the universe. A whole civilization happens in that small space. A whole universe happens. Bunch of galaxies, bunch of planets, a bunch of civilizations. 50 trillion years go by and then that universe dies. Great. Sweet. Okay, fine. Universe is dead after trillions. That was a fraction of a second. How long in comparison to that fraction of a second will I. Is my time if I'm 100 years old and that's I'm just die at 100 normal a** f****** life. But that I'm the guy who smashed the two atoms together and made that. So in that timescale, we're now in the universe that is going to expire in 50 trillion years. But all of this has been a moment God doesn't even notice is happening because it's happening so quick.

Cristina: Yes, but we're somehow using his energy or.

Jack: Well, my point would be at that scale, what is a minute? What is a day? Could we fathom what a second is?

Cristina: No.

Jack: A second is long as h***. A second could be the entire. Actually this whole universe exists in less than one second of God.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: If we convert that to energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's nothing like it's. It could expire.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: In a normal. God is going to die in a.

Cristina: But it took a lot of energy to make us, though.

Jack: It took such insignificant energy to run the hadron colliders that we still have everything else in the planet working simultaneously.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Do you see?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just to smash two atoms together and create a whole universe. It took so little energy, most people don't even know that Machine exists.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: Nobody noticed anything happened.

Cristina: Everyone feared for the worst.

Jack: Nobody knew. That's all just stories from people who were looking into it.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Nobody knew what was happening. Oh, and it's happened many times.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, those are all fake stories.

Jack: So in these cases, one fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second to a hundred years. So to a full life amount of energy, what is our universe? Insignificant?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's easy to waste the energy. Something could use it. Is there anything within here who could use it? I don't. F***.

Cristina: Probably not. Is adrenochrome the closest we get to that, though?

Jack: Adrenochrome? Isn't that. Is adrenochrome connected to the Force?

Cristina: I don't know. That's why I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it is.

Jack: No, I think adrenochrome is a shortcut.

Cristina: To what?

Jack: To not have to use the Force, but acquire all the same things. Okay. Think of what Alan Watt says. You could meditate into an entirely new perspective of viewing the world and understanding reality. Or you could f****** take acid. Like acid is good to show you the window. But learn how to get there on your own.

Cristina: Oh, okay. It's better to learn how to get there.

Jack: It's not better, it's just a different way. He suggests learn together on your own. But who cares if you can get there?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The point being that while we have. Actually, I have an idea. I lost my train of thought.

Cristina: We talk about how adrenochrome is a shortcut to blind.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Then adrenochrome would in any case be the asset. It's like the Force is the way there, but not everybody's connected to it. Not everybody has a He man sword or Power Ranger powers or f****** this or that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Jedi mind tricks or whatever. Sometimes you just take adrenochrome and you get there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's instant versus a bunch of Pragues and studying monks can get there. Spend their whole lives, mind you, instantly when you meet them, what the f*** is happening?

Cristina: Or take adrenochrome.

Jack: Take Adrenochrome.

Cristina: No practice.

Jack: But also the same things would happen. People who practice and learn how to use the things, are they out there causing trouble?

Cristina: Trouble? No, never. But they don't have withdrawal, which I guess is a good.

Jack: Yes, that's another good.

Cristina: That's a good thing.

Jack: But also they're not out there causing. Because they learn how to wield it. Yeah, but if you got the power overnight. Do you know how to wield it? No, you just got crazy abilities. It's the same idea of when we were having that episode about the mass shooting maybe two, three seasons ago, and me and Blake were talking about our guns bad and our people bad. And it's like, no, not really. Yes, people die all the time. But if you gave everybody a gun overnight. Well, actually, we're talking about the Internet particularly, which was. Is the Internet evil? It's like, no, the Internet is just a brand new creation. And we don't know what the f*** we're doing.

Cristina: We definitely don't know what we're doing with the Internet or with guns.

Jack: With the Internet or with guns. Well, we know how to use guns. More guns really don't cause that much of a problem.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: If you gave everybody a gun, we kind of get it. But before anybody knew what a gun. This is how I proved my point. Before anybody knew what a gun was. If suddenly I invented guns today and I just happened to make enough of them to give everybody a gun. A lot of people are gonna die.

Cristina: Yes. No one knew about what it was.

Jack: Yeah, a lot of people are gonna die because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Even after we see a couple of people dying, people can be. Well, I could defend my house with her. I could do this without. People are gonna shoot each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Same goes for the Internet. We don't know what the f*** we're doing. We're just screaming at each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing.

Cristina: Yes. Because they're complicated. Because people shoot themselves.

Jack: Yeah, but those are accidents. That. That doesn't happen often.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's probably the. In Earth history, every year, maybe 10 people shoot themselves by accident.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Like, it's not worth the mention.

Cristina: Okay, but it happened.

Jack: Yes, but also some dude fell upstairs. That's also something that happened once. Like, it's fine once in a.

Cristina: Like, I don't know, just once.

Jack: Weird things happen. Never. Look at the anecdotal anomaly that doesn't fall into the act.

Cristina: Like the lady who killed her husband with a squirrel or something.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like when the only one time in a lifetime.

Jack: Yeah. Like, it's pointless to be like, well, that one thing happened. Like, who gives a s***? It'll never happen again.

Cristina: Yeah. Unless we got to worry about people trying to kill other people with squirrels. That becomes a thing.

Jack: Those circumstances are so highly specific.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't matter.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. With all that comes the equivalent of the Force, and we can't do that. We. With something we don't know how to use, which is how we end up with people just having withdrawal, desperately trying to get as much adrenochrome as possible, doing weird things and abusing their power. Meanwhile, the people who practice to get to the same place don't give a. Yeah, they're just enjoying it.

Cristina: Yeah. Cool.

Jack: Interesting point, now that I think about it, though.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Thinking about Hitler and his army and Jehovah and his army and Zeus and his army, essentially. Maybe the same person, whatever this army was, was definitely tuned into the Force themselves, wasn't it? Not Hitler's army.

Cristina: Well, we don't know for sure.

Jack: But like Jehovah's army, just humans, not even demigods, just humans who tuned into the Force and collectively, quite some power. Not only is the leader, the most powerful, most ruthless, most dangerous one, and the one we all know about and refer to the rest of the movement as, but all the other people also, they learn and they practice and they studied together.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they could know how to use the Force and with that, use the power to suppress everyone else.

Cristina: Yeah. That's so weird because I was thinking about giants and how, like, what if they're the ones using adrenochrome because they're doing weird things, too, besides that they're giant. They're usually doing the weird same things that the gods are doing. They have a different title and they look different, obviously, but they're doing pretty much the same things. They're kind of equal.

Jack: What do you mean by doing the same things?

Cristina: Like, they can do the same powers or they have the same strength or whatever. You want to describe it, they turn into birds. They turn into birds. Like, there's no difference except for their title.

Jack: So you're saying God is a title to a type of human?

Cristina: Yes, they're calling themselves gods, and we call them gods because they call themselves gods and they call themselves giants. So we do the same.

Jack: Maybe they didn't call themselves any of that and we called them all that.

Cristina: Okay. But they were still both. Like, what's the difference of the two groups?

Jack: There's no difference. It's just two different, like, ethnic groups at most using the Force, Adrenochrome or the Force. Or in any case, maybe one was using one and the other was using the other. It looks like outside of religion, people aim towards other means. Witchcraft. You don't need blood for f****** witchcraft unless you're doing black magic, which is circling right back to the same s***.

Cristina: You just reminded me. God needs blood. So they're the ones doing a dream of Chrome. If anyone's doing adrenochrome, it's the gods.

Jack: Yeah, well, again, like what I'm saying, anybody outside of religion is doing magic. They're doing meditation. They're doing.

Cristina: They're using the forest.

Jack: They're using the forest. Anybody within religion, it's a whole different story. Using adrenochrome, they're cheating. They don't have the natural ability. Although they go around telling everybody. Everyone else is using the bad thing, but everybody else is doing what? Using nature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So a quick example would be, right, you go to church and they tell you we're going to chant together, and you are going to pretend to drink blood and pretend to eat flesh. Sit down, shut up and listen to me. Good guys, according to themselves. And then they'll point at the other side and be like, those are the bad guys. What are the bad guys doing? Stay in touch with nature.

Cristina: Yes, that's what I was going to say. Instead of listening to what someone else is saying, you're listening to nature and hearing what it tells you.

Jack: Yeah. Be introspective. Ask what's right and what's wrong. Question everything. The. The story of the apple. Why is God so dedicated to not having Adam and Eve eat the apple? It's like, why don't you want them to. You made the perfect things. You don't want them to have knowledge.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why don't you want them to have not? Of course, chances are he found that f****** garden.

Cristina: I don't think he ate that apple.

Jack: I don't think God was a. God wasn't allowed to eat that.

Cristina: He wasn't allowed to. He was like, you guys can't have it because I can't have it.

Jack: I think that's exactly what happened. I think God was not allowed to eat the apple. And he is an angry and jealous God according to himself.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: So if he was angry that he couldn't and jealous that they could. No, f*** it. My God doesn't talk to them. I'm not gonna let them eat either.

Cristina: Except that they. Because he's not perfect. Like, whoever made him. Or not as perfect, you know, whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They could not listen to him, which he has to, I guess, listen to whoever made him.

Jack: Yes. He can't actually eat the apple. There's nothing he could do to eat that apple. Yeah, but they could.

Cristina: But they could. Yes. And they did What? That makes sense.

Jack: God doesn't have all the information. It's possible Adam and Eve had more information. Yep.

Cristina: Whoa. Do you think they shared it with us? Did we bury that information?

Jack: No, I think we actively suppress that information. I think religion does a pretty good effort of trying to suppress the real information that's out there, while Adam and Eve knew the real information that was out there. But we cut their stories short and remove what they're saying a lot of the time.

Cristina: This is because there is no story. They just gave birth to a bunch of children. The end.

Jack: Yeah. We don't talk about the fact that they knew everything.

Cristina: Yeah. Did they teach their children? Yeah. I don't know. That's interesting. What if God couldn't eat the apple?

Jack: It's doubtful that he could. Yeah, he probably never eat the apple. He probably didn't make that garden. That cartoon is just his home. It's his fishbowl.

Cristina: It's his fishbowl.

Jack: It's his fishbowl to where something greater is just watching God.

Cristina: But then when he kicked them out, what did he kick them out into?

Jack: The world.

Cristina: The world? Is that inside his fishbowl?

Jack: No, he kicked them out of the.

Cristina: Fishbowl where he lives.

Jack: He lives. God can't leave the fishbowl. That's why he's obligated to do other things, to communicate. For whatever reason, Lucifer and Jehovah are bound to their respective locations because they have to do other things to communicate. They have to send a physical. Not physical, but like an energy based thing. Talk to you through a bush. Talk to you through your dreams. Send the messenger angel because he cannot leave.

Cristina: Oh, crap. He is trapped wherever he is.

Jack: God is in prison.

Cristina: Yes. He's in prison. No. I don't know.

Jack: He's trapped wherever he is. He has messengers for days and he has tricks for days. I can talk to you through any number of. Why don't you come down?

Cristina: I'll blind you.

Jack: He's got excuses. Oh, like, bro, you've destroyed the earth many times.

Cristina: Doesn't matter.

Jack: You don't care. No, but he's trapped wherever he is. It's a fishbowl.

Cristina: It's a fishbowl. Yes.

Jack: And it's probably the garden.

Cristina: But is that fishbowl near here? In here? In this reality?

Jack: Could be. Maybe. Could be a pocket dimension.

Cristina: A pocket dimension.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And it could be that in kicking people out, he sent them out to the earth where they weren't meant to be. Maybe that's why we're destroying Earth. We weren't meant to be here. We were all supposed to be in this garden that would grow proportionately with the number of people that are in there for all of infinity. The garden would always be the right size for the number of people there. Yes, but the planet doesn't grow by itself.

Cristina: No. That's interesting.

Jack: We sent out people who were never meant to die in the first place. Also in the garden. They were immortal.

Cristina: They were immortal. Okay.

Jack: Ate the apple and then were kicked out and given mortality. I don't think that's how that story really goes. I think as long as you're in the garden, you're mortal, you're immortal, and as long as you're outside of the garden, you're mortal. Maybe God is too old to leave the garden. He might die instantaneously. It's like if Dorian Gray looked at his picture 200 years later.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He would immediately age to the age he should have been.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe God would immediately age to the age it should be and die instantaneously.

Cristina: If he leaves the garden. Whoa.

Jack: If he leaves the garden, the garden is keeping him immortal.

Cristina: Mm. What? I wonder if there's other magical creatures there, though. I mean, not magical, but talkative, I guess. Like the talking snake.

Jack: The talking snake, which is also in the Bible. Not even really Lucifer. I don't know what that's about.

Cristina: It's a snake, and it talks. Were there other animals or the talking birds? Yeah.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. It is fascinating to think about that. That maybe the source of his mortality, immortality, is the garden.

Cristina: Like the first story, though, of Lilith. Was she kicked out of the garden? Was she still living in the garden? I don't know, because she was still able to rape Adam and stuff, but.

Jack: I don't know, man. Now, the question here would be God trying to make another God. He's managing everything with messengers from within the fishbowl. So he sends messengers, tries to navigate how things happen, tricks people into doing things, causes tragedies, and once in a while, attacks directly.

Cristina: Yes. To attacks Earth.

Jack: Yeah. But he's doing all of this from the fishbowl, which is why we never see him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The closest thing he got was that clever trick of Jesus. He's like, well, I found the way to convert my energy into this other being that's sort of me, but not me. But he can be outside without me dying in here. And I can see through his eyes and I can move him around, but I'm gonna be limited in information and limited in ability.

Cristina: It feels like he's already really limited in many ways.

Jack: Compared to us, he's not. Yeah, he's way more free than we could ever be. But then Jesus is human, so, like, he's limited if you're comparing him to omniscience.

Cristina: Yeah, but, like, as far as humans.

Jack: Go, he's not limited by anything.

Cristina: Yeah. And.

Jack: And then there's Jesus is way out of the bubble until Jesus dies, until he gets killed. Because he's not infinitely powerful, that version of him is still mortal. It was the only way he could get outside of the bubble without him leaving the bubble.

Cristina: Personally, do you think he's gotten out of the bubble after that, though? Why would he just stop at Jesus?

Jack: Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he's many different people throughout time. This is the only way to experience anything.

Cristina: Yeah. Think he brought anyone back into that bubble? He kicked people out. And we know about those stories, but who says he hasn't kidnapped people? Unless that's what those stories of people going, there was a guy who just walked into heaven. I don't know who he was, but he walked up the stairs to heaven or something like that. Is he in the garden right now?

Jack: Heaven is not the garden.

Cristina: Heaven's not the garden. Where's God? He's not in heaven. Then.

Jack: God is not in heaven.

Cristina: He's in the garden.

Jack: God is in the garden.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Heaven is some other realm.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like h*** is probably just a shadow realm.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we call it some other crap, but ironically, angels come from there.

Cristina: So heaven and h*** could be the same place.

Jack: No, I think the liars that we know as Jehovah and his army, who say we're not only omniscient, but like, we're the good guys. And it's like you're the only guy who's drinking blood, so maybe you're not. Maybe the people who are like, go be one with nature are definitely on the right track. And you calling them the devil and then going and drinking blood, maybe you're wrong. But chances are more reason to go back into the shadow realm that the garden is located inside the shadow realm.

Cristina: The garden's in the shadow realm. But you don't think heaven.

Jack: It's already in a different plane.

Cristina: Do you think heaven's not a place then?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What do you think? That's a lie.

Jack: It's possible that either heaven or h*** is the shadow realm.

Cristina: Okay. Because I feel like it has both creatures. So it's most likely that all those locations are the same location.

Jack: It could be that all the other s*** is the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Yeah. So. Oh, back to the Shadow Realm.

Jack: And in the Shadow Realm, Somewhere in the Shadow Realm, this weird mazy confusing. Every direction leads to every direction mass there is the garden.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which God cannot leave.

Cristina: Except wait, I just remembered. He's a beaver here right now.

Jack: You're right. He's a beaver on this side. Well, he's actually a beaver groundhog. And he isn't even over here.

Cristina: Well, we don't know where he is.

Jack: We don't know. He could be a groundhog on this side. Or he's over there and he manifests as a groundhog on this side.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because his actual form is a groundhog. If he's over here, he's pretending, but he's over there. And people fearing for their weather conditions and season report for their crops. And we're going to be broke this year. That fear allows him to manifest and talk to them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he could just be a being from the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: He could be okay. Yes. So the best choice is just to wait then. Just gotta be patient for him to pop up. Because we know when and where.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: So we'll get that groundhog.

Jack: Definitely. It's pretty interesting.

Cristina: That is. And if we somehow miss the groundhog wasn't there. I keep saying beaver, but I'm pretty sure in another country it's the talking beaver that gives them the weather. I think it was like different animals in different locations, but they're all around the world. The groundhog is just the closest one to us, so it'd be easiest to get him.

Jack: Fair. And I'm assuming every one of those regions has different gods as well. And different gods pretend to be different things as well as different kinds of ghosts and entities of those natures. Which goes to show that gods are just demigods who happen to inhabit certain regions of the Earth. Yeah, that's fascinating. And as for groundhogs and s***, My voice is almost recovered after he got bitten by that stupid f****** groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Soon I'll be back at a hundred percent. I can almost do high notes. Almost.

Cristina: So what are you right now, 75?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Cristina: Everyone's worried about you. There's like hundreds of thank you letters. I don't know why. Thank you.

Jack: Yes. Many, many thank you letters.

Cristina: It's really confusing.

Jack: Yes. They all heard I was hurt and they're all just thanking me.

Cristina: I think they think you're dying. Like this is it for you.

Jack: They think this is it.

Cristina: Yeah. So they're like, thank you for host. You're gonna be soon replaced by you again. But we want to thank you for the time you've been with us.

Jack: Yeah. It won't matter. They won't tell the difference.

Cristina: They won't tell the difference. No. So. But whatever they. They consider it if this is your passing away moment. But you're saying it's not.

Jack: I'm saying it's not. But thank you for all the thank you letters that we've received over the last couple of days following the previous episode where I talked about getting bitten by the groundhog that was just a normal non radioactive groundhog.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So thank you for all the thank you letters that we've gotten. It's great that that happened, I guess. You're welcome.

Cristina: You're welcome.

Jack: Welcome to all of you.

Cristina: Because this is it. I mean, this is the show. That's what you said in the beginning. This is the show.

Jack: This is the show. Yeah, it's the show. Anyways, so. Yeah. Hope you guys have some ideas or thoughts on anything we discussed right now. It'd be interesting to hear what you guys have to say about this. Is it making more sense? Are we reflecting defining what God is that we unmutty the Bible by saying that God is a groundhog from the shadow realm that exists inside of a fishbowl dimension that is known as the Garden of Eden and that humans are.

Cristina: Have the force and have adrenochrome as the shortcut force?

Jack: Yes, yes. We're just clarifying all the things. You guys know, you guys know how we do. We give you information. A little bit of good, a little bit of bad, some of the do's and don'ts. And this is my. Before you buy.

Cristina: What are they buying?

Jack: I don't know. Isn't that what that guy's friends, what is it? Some of the good, some of the bad. You know how we do. Before you buy. Anyways, yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you guys want more conversations of this nature, there are many. And the most recent episodes we've been sort of circling these topics, refining them. That way we know what our next steps are going to be. And you can find more episodes like that or like this or like any thing. Essentially, we cover everything under the sun. You can find that on Greathoughts.

Cristina: We have hundreds of episodes.

Jack: Yes. You can find that on greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate, and review the show, because that's always great to hear what you guys are thinking. So please go. If you're listening right now, if you made it this far, go review. Go review. You heard this far and you haven't left a review, go review and tell us what you genuinely thought. Take a moment, do it right now. It'll be awesome.

Cristina: And then we'll have to include an emoji.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: For this episode. What is it gonna be?

Jack: I don't know. Put a smiley of some sort.

Cristina: The one with the hearts.

Jack: No, put a poop emoji.

Cristina: Poop emoji. Okay.

Jack: There you go.

Cristina: Put a poop emoji, a true, honest review of the show, and a poof.

Jack: And a poop emoji at the true, honest review of the show, the right amount of stars that you believe we deserve, and then a poop emoji. Go do that now.

Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, incredibly powerful. And we're refining the meaning of science, religion, philosophy and everything. We're making it one. So, you know, tell people. Tell people who are trapped.

Cristina: They have to know.

Jack: Yeah. Tell people who are trapped in one of those systems so they can be trapped in all of them with us.

Cristina: Yes. Wow. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. It's very complicated.

Cristina: What made you think of that, though?

Jack: I don't know. I was just. It's just an im. I don't know what the f*** I was even doing, but the images popped into my head. I'm like, how weird and fat. I've been thinking about it for, like, a week straight.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. I'm like, this is so trippy.

Cristina: Is the Blue's Clues thing trippy, too, or not as trippy?

Jack: Holy sh. I didn't even connect those dots. I didn't think about it. But, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Blue skirt, dude, we can, too. Then they hop into a f******. But they live in a jumbled f****** mess.

Cristina: They do.

Jack: Weird to assume the coyote and the Roadrunner exists in, like, a relative reality.

Cristina: Or whatever, but the weird thing about them is that they can't normally jump into pictures. They have to announce that they're using Blue's powers of jumping into pictures.

Jack: What the f*** is Blue? Blue's some, like, mythical creature with powers, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like his.

Cristina: Blue, like the roadrunner. They have special powers.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Roadrunner is like Wile E. Coyote sometimes. Wile E. Coyote can break the laws of physics, too. It could break reality in his own instances. While Blue seems to kind of be like an omniscient God in his world or some s***, where he can however he wants. He's kind of like Deadpool.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning.

Jack: The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by.

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Rambling 150: Shadow God

Is there a pattern in Groundhog God’s behavior? Is there a pattern in which other God’s we see? Why is Adrenochrome so prominent in everything the underworld offers throughout the course of history? Is the point of reality Adrenochrome related? After being attacked by a rabid groundhog, the due decide to unpack the connection of God, Groundhogs, Adrenochrome and Technology. Additionally delving into the Facebook Metaverse name change and what their new artificial reality will be capable of. What the duo uncovers about the metaverse is a flash from the past no one could have seen coming!

Rambling 150: Shadow God

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed:

  • Groundhog God
  • Facebook’s Metaverse
  • Androids
  • Elon Musk
  • Ugandan Knuckles
  • Genocidal Jack
  • Illuminati Clones
  • Caligrians
  • The Clone Origins
  • Planet X
  • The Death Star
  • Cat People
  • The Shadow Realm
  • Yu-Gi-Oh

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Cristina: Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes, and also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss. So be sure to find somebody to listen to this show with. That's always the most important part. You go find somebody. Ah, my throat hurts so much it's crazy.

Cristina: Why? What's wrong with your throat?

Jack: You know what's wrong with my throat.

Cristina: You got Covid.

Jack: I got Covid. Can you imagine? Just be here in the. In the showroom, recording. I got Covid. Everybody's getting Covid. We're all catching COVID Because I brought Covid.

Cristina: Yeah, it's crazy, because you got the shot. What was it you told Clevername? You got it 7 times already?

Jack: 17 times.

Cristina: 17 times the shot.

Jack: 17 times the most vaccinated human, and.

Cristina: You still caught it.

Jack: And I still caught it.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: And it's killing me.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm probably going to be replaced soon with another clone.

Cristina: Clone.

Jack: Hopefully I make it. I mean, that was the goal, right? I caught the COVID and that's not even why I sound the way I do. No, that's unrelated.

Cristina: That's unrelated. Yes.

Jack: I just have Covid. That's another fact. Yeah, I just have Covid, But I was trying to beat the COVID with a beaver. With a.

Cristina: No. Groundhog. Yeah, they're all the same. Okay. Groundhog.

Jack: Yeah, they're close.

Cristina: They're close, you know?

Jack: God d***. But my throat hurts so much. So I'll fill you guys in with what happened. So I went out with some of the subhumans, and we decided we're going to go catch groundhog God, Jehovah. But I also decided we can get a normal groundhog and try to create a groundhog God. The groundhog God, like Jehovah. And so we went and we caught a normal groundhog, and we trapped it, and I was gonna inject it with some adrenochrome to see what would happen when the m*********** bit me in the neck.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: So were you able to inject it afterwards? Yeah. Okay, so, like, I'm not gonna have, like, groundhog powers or anything, which would be dope.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Depending on what that would be, I guess.

Cristina: What do you mean? Any power should be a dope power.

Jack: I suppose.

Cristina: What would be a bad power?

Jack: I don't know, like I become a groundhog or I'm like a human size. Think about like the. The Beast from X Men.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like his life sucks. Or think about the thing from the Fantastic Four. Yeah, I get. Yeah, that's garbage, bro.

Cristina: I mean, as superheroes, it's fine dope. But in their normal lives as human beings, I guess that it sucks.

Jack: Yeah. Like, if I turned into. It would suck if I inj with adrenochrome and bites me and then I become like a giant groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah. That still speaks and everything.

Jack: Like, yeah, that sucks.

Cristina: Yeah, that sucks.

Jack: Oh, so, yeah, it sucks to talk. It hurts. It's. It. I sound weird.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, it's hard to even explain what's going on because it caught me on the right side of the neck. So it didn't hit like the jugular vein or any important thing.

Cristina: You didn't bleed out.

Jack: And like we have all the secret Illuminati medication. So, like, I'm not going to get rabies or anything. Although, like, we had cures for like normal people can access cures for rabies, but I got like mega cure for rabies. So that's all stuff that's happening. But like, I can't do high pitched.

Cristina: Sounds or it will kill you.

Jack: Yeah, man, it hurts. I might die if I do some. Any kind of high octave thing where not even.

Cristina: What if you accidentally do a high octave and then you die in this while we're recording this?

Jack: That would be tragic. But then I would be replaced immediately by a more clear sounding clone.

Cristina: So should we try to kill you?

Jack: No, because I like living. That's a fact.

Cristina: Sure.

Jack: Yeah. I enjoy being alive quite a bit.

Cristina: All right, just checking.

Jack: Yeah. So that's what's happening over here. Just a lot of.

Cristina: So we couldn't find the groundhog God, though.

Jack: We haven't done that yet. We haven't even gone out to find out if there is a groundhog God that we're gonna catch. We're presuming that that's the thing, and it probably is.

Cristina: Realistically, I thought we were doing that. And you also wanted to test out if you could turn one into the God.

Jack: We're gonna go. We're hunting to see where we're gonna find groundhog God. We gotta look in the area where the groundhog that predicts the weather or whatever the f***.

Cristina: I think that's in Philadelphia. Right. I don't know. Maybe. His name is Phil, I'm assuming. Yes.

Jack: His name is Phil, therefore he is from Philadelphia.

Cristina: He's named after the location he lives. Positive.

Jack: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: PPP Yeah, I think so. Phil from Pennsylvania.

Cristina: Well, his name is like two Peas, so it would be PPP Why is.

Jack: His name two Peas?

Cristina: Because it's the town he's from.

Jack: Starts with a P. No f****** way.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Isn't Philadelphia the town he's in?

Cristina: No, that's not really the town he's in. It's another town that starts with a P. Really? Yeah.

Jack: That's a fact.

Cristina: Yes. It's a really complicated word, though.

Jack: Okay. Like Poughkeepsie.

Cristina: Poughkeepsie. What is a Poughkeepsie?

Jack: It's a town.

Cristina: What town? Where is it?

Jack: I don't know where it is.

Cristina: Why do you know it's.

Jack: The name of the town is Poughkeepsie. And I don't know why I know things. I don't know the answers to stuff, but. Yeah. So today's show is brought to you by the letter H and the letter P. P. And you put them together and it equals gaining Life.

Cristina: Gaining. His name is Punksu. To.

Jack: Phil.

Cristina: Yes, Phil. I said Phil. Right. And that P word is in Pennsylvania. So you see, it was pretty on it.

Jack: Yeah, I guess so. It is in Pennsylvania.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he's from. Yeah, it's. His name is PP from pp.

Cristina: He's PP from pp?

Jack: Yeah, he's PP from pp. This is a very adult, mature content show. We are only.

Cristina: That's why we're not laughing.

Jack: We're only. Yeah. Because there's nothing funny about Peepee from pp.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Them be the facts.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Facts aren't meant to be funny.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They're just objective truths.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we gotta go there and hunt God.

Cristina: Yes. How are we gonna go there? I mean, it's not even that far, is it?

Jack: No, that's incredibly close.

Cristina: Why haven't we found him yet?

Jack: Because it's a large area.

Cristina: Are you sure? What if that town is very tiny? I don't know.

Jack: Pennsylvilladelphia?

Cristina: No. Punxus. Whatever. The P word. That. He's from the town.

Jack: Oh, s***. He's named after the town.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Punxutaway.

Cristina: Let's just say he's from Pun. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, whatever. It doesn't matter where he's from. We're gonna go there and we're gonna. Cat.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It is what it is, man.

Cristina: Did you murder that thing? No, we're just watching and waiting.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

Cristina: What if he becomes you?

Jack: I highly doubt that. You, like, eat a piece of me?

Cristina: No. But he bit you.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That would be enough to turn you into beaver.

Jack: Groundhog.

Cristina: Groundhog. What if he turned into a groundhog?

Jack: He wasn't radioactive or anything.

Cristina: How do you know? Did you check if he was before you did it?

Jack: He wasn't normal.

Cristina: Did you check, though, before?

Jack: Yes, that was the point. We couldn't have an already modified groundhog and give it adrenochrome.

Cristina: Well, I thought you just got a random groundhog and maybe forgot to check it.

Jack: No, we are professionals.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Yeah, it was just a groundhog.

Cristina: So what powers would you want from a groundhog, though? You don't want to turn into one, I guess.

Jack: But what power does a groundhog have? Didn't we go through this once where you talked about the powers of a groundhog or some?

Cristina: I think so. I talked about other. Other animals.

Jack: Really? I don't know. It could dig.

Cristina: Well, it could dig. So you're gonna. That's the power you want?

Jack: Just dig underground?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Unrealistically fast. They don't even dig really fast. Like it isn't astounding.

Cristina: It's probably equal to you digging.

Jack: Yeah. It's not crazy, you know?

Cristina: Yeah. Do they at least have good vision in the dark?

Jack: Probably not.

Cristina: Probably. Oh.

Jack: They don't need to see too much when they're in a hole in the dark. There's no light in there.

Cristina: Shouldn't they be seeing? Well, no, they're not like moles or something.

Jack: In order to have night vision like other animals, do you usually have a little bit of light? It's the ability to see in low light.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Isn't light coming into your eyes? You can't see Like a cat in straight up darkness is still blind. So in a hole like that, it doesn't matter.

Cristina: Okay. And it can't develop those other powers that the moles have, like being able.

Jack: To feel where everything is. Yeah, I guess it could, but the mole did that already, so.

Cristina: But you wouldn't want that power.

Jack: Well, I wouldn't get that from a groundhog, no. Yeah. Groundhog doesn't give us that kind of stuff.

Cristina: What if you were furry as one?

Jack: That sucks. I just described.

Cristina: No, you don't want to be. You're not going to be a giant groundhog. You're still human.

Jack: No, I don't want to be furry at all. That sucks.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I want to look like a groundhog in any manner, shape or form. Not even fur wise.

Cristina: I wonder what powers they have. They have to have something that makes them special besides predicting the future.

Jack: I don't care. That groundhog. What have you been up to?

Cristina: What have I been up to?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Hiding from Mark Zuckerberg.

Jack: Mark Zuckerfucker? Why?

Cristina: His commercial scares me.

Jack: The Metaverse commercial?

Cristina: He's so not human.

Jack: What's not human about him?

Cristina: Just him talking. It's just. It does feel like he's pretending to be Data from Star Trek. It's so crazy that he's just trying to be normal and it's not coming off as normal.

Jack: Well, he's a weird guy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like he has little option to what he can do to fix that. Like he is who he is.

Cristina: Like he's trying to play around with what we. How we see him. But it's really hard not to see him as how we see him.

Jack: Yeah, like his joke. Oh, I thought I was the robot.

Cristina: Yes, like that. It doesn't help.

Jack: Well, it get. It shows us that he gets what's happening. Like he understands that we believe that.

Cristina: Yes, but it didn't help. I don't know, it convinced me more that he's a robot.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Cuz it's something. I don't know. Maybe it's that weird. He's Data. He's a robot. He's whatever Data is. What is Data? He's a robot. Completely. He's something else.

Jack: He's a fool.

Cristina: Yeah, he's a robot.

Jack: Yeah, he's an Android. His robot made to simulate a person.

Cristina: I think Mark is that. I think Mark is an Android.

Jack: And who made him?

Cristina: Elon Musk.

Jack: That'd be an interesting. And like, I wouldn't put it past him, you know?

Cristina: Yes. He didn't probably plan on him making Facebook or any of that. He just made a robot just to see what would happen. And then that robot did all this other stuff that Elon wasn't predicting at all. He just made the robot for fun.

Jack: Or maybe he did plan on him making Facebook.

Jack: Maybe he's pulling all the strings.

Cristina: Why would he care about Facebook?

Jack: He has everybody's information.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Why are all his companies so successful?

Cristina: Because of Facebook. No.

Jack: Elon Musk. Yeah, he knows what people want.

Cristina: Oh. Because he knows what people want and.

Jack: He builds an entire company around the concept of what people want.

Cristina: But he hangs out on Twitter and on Facebook.

Jack: Unless he does, he doesn't need to hang out on Facebook because Zucker F***** does. He not only the Creator of Facebook. But he exists inside Facebook, reading all the data and then he just reports back to Elon Musk and gives him all the data he's discovered.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: In summarized versions that provide the most efficient knowledge.

Cristina: What kind of information does he need?

Jack: Well, what are people talking about these days? What's the most talked about?

Cristina: Conspiracies? I don't know.

Jack: And he solves them. He probably the guy who tells Trump what to do. When we were talking about the guy on top who tells everybody else what to do. It's probably Elon Musk. He's probably the boss of the queen and everything. He's the guy on top. If we just follow every line to the top. Elon Musk is at the top of every line.

Cristina: That's a little hard to imagine. Well, okay.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because. Over the queen.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How did he do it?

Jack: Science.

Cristina: Science got him there. Whoa.

Jack: The power of science got Elon Musk on top. Yeah. I think that's definitely what's going on. Used the power of science in a virtual world.

Cristina: What is your avatar gonna look like?

Jack: What? In the metaverse? In the Facebook metaverse.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: You can make it look like yourself, which is a weird choice to go with.

Jack: You could exist in a fictional world and you're just gonna make you.

Cristina: Yeah, because one of the people in that commercial just was themselves.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like a hologram version of themselves.

Jack: Yeah. Is that what he really believes is going to happen?

Cristina: That people are going to do that? You know what? I'm going to be right.

Jack: What are you going to be?

Cristina: The little round knuckles running around Uganda Knuckles. Yeah.

Jack: Oh, my God. I know that's going to happen. Isn't. Wait, isn't that a metaverse? What the f*** was that?

Cristina: Yeah, that is. I don't know. What's it called, what game that is or where that's.

Jack: Yeah, they invaded that s*** hard.

Cristina: And it's going to go in Facebook.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uganda Knuckles will live again.

Cristina: Yeah, but what would your character look like?

Jack: Probably Uganda Knuckles as well.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I joined that movement immediately.

Cristina: Yes. Gotta make it happen.

Jack: Yeah. It'll be amazing. Can you imagine another army of Uganda knuckles just trolling until that avatar gets banned again?

Cristina: Yes. You gotta. Well, what does he do? Stalk girls and say something? I forgot what he says.

Jack: He shows you the way.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. He shows you the way.

Jack: Shows you the way. Brada.

Cristina: Yes. Can't wait.

Jack: You do not know the way.

Cristina: Yes. That man. I wonder what else. I don't know.

Jack: That was a good brief Moment in history. Yeah, it was great.

Cristina: And I guess you gotta make a character, like, I don't know, a video game character that you, like, you could just put in. I wonder.

Jack: No, I'm gonna just be some chick.

Cristina: I'm just gonna be some chick.

Jack: Yeah, I'm a troll. Guys get free. So you do you dress up like a chicken? Nerds. Wanna. You or your avatar.

Cristina: Your avatar?

Jack: Yeah, I do it all the time, man. I play chicks and games.

Cristina: And they give you stuff.

Jack: Yeah, they just want to f*** my avatar.

Cristina: Oh, do you let them f*** your avatar? No, no. Okay.

Jack: I flirt with them, though, you know, in game. Flirting, winks and highs. And I follow them around. They're like, oh, yeah, I got a video game girl.

Cristina: Then you murder them.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that kind of often.

Cristina: You're serial killer.

Jack: I kind of am, dude.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, let's be real. Let's be real. Totally out of character right now. Just me, the real clone, and, like, worker for the Illuminati. None of this other s*** I pretend to be, Right? This is who I really, truly, honestly am.

Cristina: You, Jack the River.

Jack: I kind of murder a lot. Let's look at my track record, right? Video games. Just going through video games before we get to the bigger picture. I consistently. But I'm not like. Like, let's think of like Grand Theft Auto, right? I don't go around just casually murdering people.

Cristina: No, you do. On the Red Dead.

Jack: Well, the problem is I'll go and I'll randomly, in gta, go into a bunk after the lobby has pacified and there's no chaos happening. And what will I do? I'll get an armored truck that nobody could blow up. Oh, I'll go outside and just start f****** people up with that truck, sending the entire lobby into a frenzy of murdering one another.

Cristina: Why would you.

Jack: And then I'll stop murdering people.

Cristina: Poor kid.

Jack: I don't know. Because I can.

Cristina: Because you can.

Jack: In Red Dead, I passively go wave at somebody. Go chill with them, follow them around.

Cristina: They think, oh, yeah, Pretend to be their buddy.

Jack: Yeah, we're gonna go do things together. And then when they least expect it, I blow their f****** brains out.

Cristina: And then run away.

Jack: And then run away. Then they can't find me.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And I make sure they know I'm still in the world. But I quick travel somewhere they can't find me. And then I leave the nearest town, and then they can't find me. If they're traveling from down to town, they gotta find me in the middle of West Bubba F*** killer.

Cristina: I guess that's not a serial killer because you're not hunting specific people or anything.

Jack: No, I'm just a mass murderer.

Cristina: Mass murderer? Yeah, that's the right word.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: If we talk about the real world, though, what you did with the cockroach people is mass murder.

Jack: Yeah. It's genocide.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's a lot. A lot of life. I killed a lot of Reptilians, but there's a lot alive resistant slaves. Like, a lot of them.

Cristina: Yeah. Not as bad as what we did with the cockroach Fuel.

Jack: No, nothing. Nothing beats that. That was way early, before we understood what we were dealing with. Before s*** got weird and there was a bunch of other s*** happening. But, yeah, we. We f***** that up. I did end up marrying one of the survivors, huh?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: My wife is a giant cockroach.

Cristina: Mm. Does she scare? Is she afraid of you? I don't understand. How did it happen?

Jack: She understands.

Cristina: She understands that she.

Jack: But it was Amy.

Cristina: It wasn't this you. It was before you became you.

Jack: I don't. I don't know what the canon of this show is. I don't know the lore. So, like, somebody needs to explain this to me. Am I the one who's the same killer? Is anybody listening? Who, like, kept track of this? Because I don't know. And I'm not going to go back and find out. Like, go listen to everything and tell me, am I the same guy who destroyed that planet, destroyed Mars with cockroaches on it? Or was it like a previous clone? Or, like, what the f***? I don't know.

Cristina: And which version of you did the time machine and which version of me? Because I don't think it was the one before the real you. I don't think it was that you, but I don't think it's this you either. I think there's just another you out there.

Jack: That's the thing.

Cristina: Unrelated, I think there's two.

Jack: I think there's two mews.

Cristina: Besides the one that was kill trying to kill you. Besides that you that's might still also be out there.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. He killed Jermaine. There might be three of us.

Cristina: Exactly. There's three of yous out here.

Jack: See, this is why we need somebody who listens to this show religiously to, like, build. Build this narrative so we can see and, like, tell me, I want to know. Which are you, which am I?

Cristina: Which you is you.

Jack: I know I'm number three, you're for.

Cristina: Sure the one that married the roach.

Jack: For sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Because I've been here a while. I've been here for, like, three seasons maybe.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, season two had, like, two different clones.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. All that happened in, like, season two.

Cristina: Okay. With the time machine and the murdering your friend.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Like, a huge part of the lore happened in season two.

Cristina: And that's why we have no idea.

Jack: And that's why you have no idea. A bunch of that s*** happened all together. Because before then, it was just a show.

Cristina: Yes, it was. Normal podcast.

Jack: Was a normal podcast back in the old days when we had Reaper here and we were all just a bunch of people before the Illuminati recruited us because of how informative we were. And then we got recruited and then we got told the secrets and then.

Cristina: We spoiled it, and then we died.

Jack: Well, we didn't necessarily, but you know us. And then the originals started talking s*** because they didn't know better. They got put down and boom, the clones showed up. But through several different things that happened, here we are.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Many clones on the line. Third clone each.

Cristina: We're the third clone.

Jack: We're the third clone. Yeah.

Cristina: What happened to our second clone?

Jack: I don't remember.

Cristina: Are you positive?

Jack: I am positive. We're number three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: I just remember Dave dying with Dave.

Jack: Well, here's the thing. I know the one with the time machine wasn't the original.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The episode with Dave is where the first got killed because we were talking s*** about the Illuminati.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He died that day too.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We all got replaced.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: But what happened?

Jack: Well, that was the first. Then we had the clone that came to kill, so we had a different clone, I guess, for a future clone that came to kill the past clone he was meant to replace, I guess. But he was retarded because he was clone of clone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he was already the second clone. So he couldn't tell the difference between Jemaine and myself. Although we don't look anything alike. And, like, for whatever reason, my clone at that point had one robot arm.

Cristina: Yes, he has a robot arm and.

Jack: A robot leg and an eyepatch or some s*** like that. Yeah, pirate looking.

Cristina: Yes, he looked like you, except he was missing parts.

Jack: Yeah. Something went terribly wrong. And he wasn't the brightest either.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And he was the second one who came to kill the previous. We'd still not use the time machine yet for the cat people.

Cristina: Are you positive? Because that was super random too.

Jack: D***. I don't know.

Cristina: I don't know which came first. And even though, like, no matter what the order is, when do we die?

Jack: That's the biggest f****** problem, right? Because I know we're number three. I don't remember how we got here.

Cristina: When did we die again? Are you sure?

Jack: I am positive. We've been the third clone for a while.

Cristina: Are you sure you're not the second?

Jack: No, I'm positive. We're not the second. We're the third.

Cristina: I don't remember that. Are you sure?

Jack: I can keep repeating that?

Cristina: Yes, I'm sure. You don't know what season?

Jack: No. Everything happened between season two.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And three.

Cristina: All of it only died twice.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay. I just don't remember my second death.

Jack: I mean, of course you wouldn't. That. That's. That holds up. That's exactly what would happen, isn't it?

Cristina: But I would remember. No, I think you would remember because you're getting the memories of your last.

Jack: Yeah, but you no aren't cloned after dying.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like then take your DNA from the dead body.

Cristina: I guess not. I don't remember. Okay.

Jack: I remember specifically me. This version of me stopping the me who was sending people to the future or some s*** like that.

Cristina: You stop that person.

Jack: You remember that one version of me stopped that clone. That clone came after the situation where the Eyepatch wearing one armed clone killed Jimin.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And thus trapped the soul inside the system.

Cristina: But that just means there was multiple you at the same time. Doesn't mean that you are a second or third or a fourth. Well, because you'd have all happened at once.

Jack: Yeah, fair enough. We don't know what order we were made. And I'm saying that in the order of which they got introduced. I'm the third introduced. I'm the last to be introduced to the lore of this show.

Cristina: Okay, but the one that was going to kill you but ended up killing Jermaine, that was still you, wasn't it?

Jack: Yes, that was a retarded me.

Cristina: No, the you that was on that show that he was trying to kill.

Jack: Oh, yes, I was also.

Cristina: That was the second me that was not you.

Jack: You, though that was not Mimi, or that might have been Mimi.

Cristina: Don't.

Jack: Because the other me is the one who was running the time machine.

Cristina: The same one that was with him talking to him is the one that was running the time machine.

Jack: No, the one that was on the show with the one who is trying to kill him. Those are the same ones. And then Jermaine. But neither one of them is the one who was running the time machine.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's three total different. Yeah. Now, my intern, My understanding is we stopped the one creating the problem with the time machine.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. Because he was all jolly and happy about, you know, destroying s***.

Cristina: Well, he was trying to save the world and I didn't understand it. It was me trying to stop him because I wanted cat people and I didn't understand his goal of stopping the cat people.

Jack: S***. You know what? I might be the one.

Cristina: You might be the one?

Jack: I might be the one.

Cristina: Which one?

Jack: No, I'm not the third. I'm the second.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: No, I'm the. I'm the first clone. No, the first clone died for sure. The first one of the. Because the original died and then the first clone died for both of us. Factually, that happened. Then we have. F***, there's like five of me, dude.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. We can't even remember when the second clone died.

Jack: No, I know the first clone. I guess I don't remember when the first clone died. I know that both my first clone and your first clone died. And our original originals died. So that's already two people dead for each of us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then there's the retarded clone.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: With the eye patch in one arm.

Cristina: You.

Jack: That's me. Yeah. And then there is me, the either the one he was trying to kill or the one who was running the time machine. And whichever one of those I'm not is the third. Which is five total me's.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If we just remove the original. That's four clones.

Cristina: That's four clones. Except I don't remember a first clone dying.

Jack: D***. I don't want to listen to all that all over again.

Cristina: That's too much work.

Jack: That's a lot. That's a lot.

Cristina: We should make up a reason. Why did our clones die then?

Jack: I don't know. There's definitely a reason, though. Somebody's gonna tell us. Somebody will.

Cristina: Look, the Spaghetti Monster killed us.

Jack: I think they started talking s*** about f****** Illuminati 2 by accident. Yeah. Yeah, I think it happened by accident.

Cristina: Oh, was it with a guest?

Jack: Might have been. But then the only guess where these bullshits happen are when Jermaine's on the show, when Dave is on the show, or when Ish is on the show. And with Ish, we went on other weird adventures.

Cristina: You started the cockroach war with Ish. Yes, yes, I was also in disagreement with that plan.

Jack: But it happened.

Cristina: But it happened.

Jack: Yes, it is what it is. See, Ish is ride or die. He's on board with cockroaches below the planet Insane.

Cristina: We were gonna lose and then we.

Jack: Had a hack off.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that was amazing. And he hacked a robot.

Cristina: That was amazing.

Jack: Yeah, man. Ish is fun. We need him back.

Cristina: Yes. We need to do some kind of weird adventure with him.

Jack: Yeah, I like adventures with Ish. He's exciting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We never. He's the wild card.

Cristina: He's the wild. Exactly.

Jack: Every group needs a wild card.

Cristina: He's Charlie. Does that make you Dennis?

Jack: I think I'm Dennis in most cases. No matter who else is who else.

Cristina: He's Charlie.

Jack: I'm pretty Dennis. Would that be interesting? I'd like to come up with something after watching Dan. What is Dan Snaps or some. Dan put some s*** on YouTube where he brings on. It's like a podcast. And he brings on the homies.

Cristina: He brings on homies. Okay.

Jack: They do like weird experiments. And I'm like, that's a cool concept. I'd like to try that out.

Cristina: Yes, we gotta do that here.

Jack: Yeah, man. If I can get Dave Ish Reaper, you, me, I'll be Dungeon Master.

Cristina: But how we get so many people on the phone, or is it through the computer?

Jack: Yeah, we can like Skype them in or some.

Cristina: Yeah, we should do that.

Jack: Yeah. And have multiple people and then we can run cool experiments and.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: That'd be dope. If we can get that set up.

Cristina: Yes. We'll have a mystery. Guess. No, I don't know. Yes.

Jack: I don't know if people knew who they were.

Cristina: Nah, they'll be surprised. It's gonna be the Axeman.

Jack: The Axeman?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Who's the Axeman?

Cristina: The guy who scared some kids in the woods.

Jack: Oh, you mean the Woodsman.

Cristina: Yeah, the Woodsman.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He's the surprise guest.

Jack: Can you imagine? We find a legit woodsman.

Cristina: That'd be cool. Now we gotta find the Woodsman.

Jack: That'd be the. Because every episode has been one to one. This would be like the creation of an entirely different show.

Cristina: What? I guess. No, it could still be ramblings.

Jack: No, no, because rambling is me and you.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: And this conversation is me and a guest.

Cristina: Yes. And this is a party.

Jack: And this is a party. This will be a whole other f****** thing.

Cristina: Yeah. So fun.

Jack: And if it works out, who knows? Maybe we'll do it again. Maybe we can figure out a schedule to get people regularly in.

Cristina: Yes. Awesome.

Jack: Yeah. Be badass.

Cristina: There will be a Woodsman.

Jack: There will be Woodsman. I mean, eventually, look, that show blows up, we get Millions and billions and trillions. And then Joe Rogan begs us to be on the show because it needs the exposure because we're making so much money. And Spotify fired him and hired us instead.

Jack: And, like, they took his hundred million dollars away and gave it to us. It's yours now.

Cristina: I don't think they can do that.

Jack: But okay, it doesn't matter, because now that's what happened.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Gave us his hundred million. And that's awesome. And then he begs. He's like, I need the money. I gotta eat. Can you. Can I be on your show and exposure? And then my stand up will do better than my podcast will do better. And we're like, you want us to share our billion listeners, the most heard podcast in the galaxy?

Cristina: In the galaxy with you?

Jack: Yeah. The Colloquians are, like, hearing us all the time.

Cristina: Who?

Jack: Yeah, exactly. Them. And they're hearing us all.

Cristina: Can you say that word again?

Jack: I don't know what I said, but that alien race is actively listening. What was it? The collar?

Cristina: Something like that.

Jack: There are.

Cristina: Is that what the cockroach people are called?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Did you find out what they're called?

Jack: I don't know what they're called. I just called them cockroach people.

Cristina: Okay. Because if they're. Whatever you just said, then we have to know that that's what they're called and say it. And that sounds really hard because.

Jack: Yeah, because there's two letters there that don't go together, so it's really hard to announce. It's like a whole other language. Caligreans.

Cristina: It's horrible. Yes. They're not called out. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: That's what the cat people are called.

Jack: But that's some. It could be. Maybe the cat peoples are Caligreans.

Cristina: We need simpler names.

Jack: I mean, cat people in Cockroach, you were pretty simple.

Cristina: But it's not real names.

Jack: I mean, it's identifying labels that we understand. I guess it's like a stereotype. It works.

Cristina: Yeah. All right, so the show with Joe Rogan, we're gonna give him an episode.

Jack: We're gonna allow him to be one of the guests that we run experiments through. But eventually the show is gonna get so big that it's no longer gonna be experiments, and we're really gonna put them in the scenarios we're talking about. It's gonna start in front of a mic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just like it started when we first started. Just conversation.

Cristina: Become that show that he used. Factor. Yes. We're just. We're gonna remake Fear Factor. And he's gonna be the guest. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Jack: That's gonna be great. It's gonna happen by accident. That's how this show happened.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: So we began it was just us hanging out. Then we got hired.

Cristina: Then we got hired. Oh, yeah.

Jack: Then we went on crazy adventures. Do crazy. Now we're gonna make a game show. We're gonna have them be on it. And it's just gonna be some fun questions. Fun.

Cristina: And then we're gonna take Joe Rogan and whatever spa.

Jack: And then we're gonna get so popular, we're gonna take Joe Rogan's spot. And then eventually we're gonna build an entire arena. Beast. What is it? The beast arena thing with the beast arena? The f****** parkour, like, ninja warrior.

Cristina: Oh, American Beast master.

Jack: Beast Master. It's gonna be like a giant Beastmaster size arena.

Cristina: What is it gonna be on Zombie island or.

Jack: Zombie Island? Yes. Ooh. Just keep filling that up.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Beast master size arena. And then we're gonna have all our scenarios really existing on there, and they're gonna have to go through them.

Cristina: Like hacking a robot.

Jack: Yeah. Oh. We could base everything on things that happened here. Oh, my God. You just gave us how we're gonna do the questions for the show. We can just go back to previous events that happened and see what everybody would do in my shoes.

Cristina: Okay, so, like, what would they do with the cockroach people?

Jack: Would they do the cockroach people?

Cristina: Probably not. Start a war. I wonder if everyone's like, no, just start a war.

Jack: We didn't try to start a war.

Cristina: You wanted to just murder them?

Jack: Yes, we freaked out. Murdered a couple of them. Then they started flying towards us and we were like, we gotta stop them. And then we destroyed their whole planet. But then that f***** up the whole system's gravitational pull and Planet X started plunging straight towards Earth. So we went ahead and we stole Mars from Universe 2, put that there.

Cristina: Then what happened to Planet X? Because it was already plunging towards us. Did it just stop?

Jack: Yes, it's just out there.

Cristina: Closer though.

Jack: It's closer, but whatever. It's where it's orbiting, just closer to the end.

Cristina: It's. Is it near Pluto? Is it somewhere we can see it? Is it like now Planet six or whatever? Like, it took that spot or whatever.

Jack: Yeah, it's probably between two other planets. Yeah, it was outside, now it's in the middle. For whatever reason, it didn't just keep plunging in. It's just like, oh, there's a planet. Okay, now I'm back In orbit, circling.

Cristina: The sun like all the other.

Jack: Which is weird that we took out one planet and it immediately stopped orbiting and just started going straight towards Earth. And then we put Mars back and it immediately stopped going towards Earth and then just went back to orbiting wherever it was.

Cristina: I think that planet's an alien.

Jack: That might be a giant. That might be the Death Star.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Why was it coming towards us? Why did it stop?

Jack: Cockroach people were protecting us this whole time. They are like the Vulcan. We got the Vulcans out of the way and then they were like, we're gonna f*** them up. But then we put it back and they don't know that the characters.

Cristina: Okay, interesting. We should go onto planet X though.

Jack: AKA the Death Star.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But like we call it a Death Star because it's just a giant spaceship. That's artificial planet thing. But like, obviously we're not gonna get there and f****** Darth Vader is gonna be on board. So who's on board the real Death Star? Is it gonna turn out to be like the Borg?

Cristina: Is it gonna be the Borg? No, I think it's gonna be something that's afraid of cockroaches. Like they're gonna be elephants.

Jack: Interesting. But elephants aren't scared of cockroaches.

Cristina: I know, but they're mice. Yeah. They're afraid of small things. I don't know.

Jack: Interesting, Interesting. I wonder what it'll be.

Cristina: It's a mouse.

Jack: A mouse wouldn't be scared of a cockroach. Mouse would wreck a cockroach.

Cristina: Oh, there's nothing afraid of cockroaches.

Jack: I'm sure there is. The answer is rabbits.

Cristina: Yes. Why do you call them cockroaches?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: They're called. It's spelled c***. Roach.

Jack: Yeah, it's spelled cockroach.

Cristina: But you're not saying cockroach, are you?

Jack: I never say cockroach.

Cristina: What do you say?

Jack: I say cockroach.

Cristina: It's so, so similar. I guess it doesn't really matter, but rabbits.

Jack: Rabbits on the Death Star.

Cristina: I think we could take them on if they do decide to attack us. If they don't find out. If they do find out, the roaches are gone. Okay, subhumans versus rabbits.

Jack: Alright, let's. Let's be real. It looks like aliens aren't really a thing. Minus the weird anomalies that we've seen, like the Chupacabra and things like that.

Cristina: Those aren't aliens. Those are also animals.

Jack: Not the interdimensional godlike ones that show up looking for ADRENOCHROME and s***.

Cristina: They were once upon a time, an animal.

Jack: Could be. We didn't establish that actually, but yeah. Like the shapeless one.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But yeah, probably. If we follow the logic. It was probably some s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It seems like the whole planet and the whole star system and the whole galaxy are just animals.

Cristina: With adrenochrome.

Jack: Just animals. It looks like adrenochrome kind of runs the universe. Question is, are the rabbits also on adrenochrome?

Cristina: For sure.

Jack: You think the cat people are on adrenochrome? They're ancient, bro.

Cristina: I think that's what we'll find.

Jack: You think we're just gonna find that?

Cristina: They probably gave us adrenochrome, dude.

Jack: You think everything comes back to adrenochrome?

Cristina: Yes. The whole history of everything.

Jack: Because God started with adrenal, Started with the goal to get more adrenochrome.

Cristina: Exactly. It makes sense.

Jack: Back to the beginning, dude. All the way at the start.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah. Like the Chupacabra. That doesn't. That's dimensional and giving us powers and whatever. It had to be something normal before adrenochrome came to its life.

Jack: Because it was working with adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How did it exist before it found us? You know, it needed adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So chances are it got the adrenochrome first and then slowly changed to what it is.

Cristina: Yeah. And that weird other world. I forgot what it was called.

Jack: Universe 2.

Cristina: Is it universal where all the fairies and creatures live?

Jack: Oh, the. The Shadow Realm.

Cristina: The Shadow Realm. Those are just creatures with adrenochrome. Once you have adrenochrome, you can enter the Shadow Realm.

Jack: Yeah, but there's things that live there.

Cristina: Purely because they already had the. Yeah. They don't know.

Jack: Are things that are just born on that side that never came in contact with anything on this side. Those are. Okay, so we gotta ignore everything on this side. Those are more interesting. Everything over here works off of adrenochrome. Everything. The only place we've seen where that is. The exception is over there. Is that other realm. Interesting.

Cristina: But many things over there have taken adrenochrome. Yes, but you're saying not all of them.

Jack: Not all of them. There are things that are native to that side. Things over here take adrenochrome and move in that direction. That's also to assume we're not going to find God over here.

Cristina: Think we're going to find him over there.

Jack: We got to go to the shadow realm to find God.

Cristina: Or we can just wait for February 2nd, where he will show up in Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania.

Jack: What is it that happens? Right. What is it that happens when to bring something to this side, you need a lot of fear or a lot of death. And then something from the shadow realm becomes. The more of that there is, the more prominent it is on this side. Because they need that energy to manifest from the other side.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: God should, in theory, be on the other side. When does God most likely show and when are miracles most likely to happen? In times of extreme, extreme tragedy.

Jack: That's because God is on the other side. And during that February 2nd.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What's happening is the fear of farmers hearing bad news and all their crops being is enough to manifest.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Jehovah.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The worry, the fear, the scared of. I'm not gonna. This is gonna be bad news. That allows him to get grasp form. That's why they have to wait.

Cristina: Yeah. So people collect first.

Jack: Yeah, I guess. But the question is, will he stay on this side? We need to catch his physical form on the other side.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because we can catch him here and then he'll just stay here.

Cristina: Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah, we do have to. But I was thinking about the creatures. You said that they are always there.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And never here. But I'm wondering if even though they might have. You know how I have to go back to us as humans. We might have been some creature before adrenochrome came to our ancestors. And then somehow we came to be. And what if that's their story? Like they might not have come here for adrenochrome, but maybe someone in their past.

Jack: So your argument is there's nothing native.

Cristina: No.

Jack: The Shadow Realm minus Adrenochrome is empty.

Cristina: Yes. Like, those are just babies of things that came here, came back over there, and then they're just stuck there because they're. They don't need it. Like their ancestor. Like we don't need it.

Jack: Problematic things like angels. And are we to assume angels are just also people who changed differently? Maybe the Neanderthals who took the f****** thing and then evolved to be these f****** things? What do we say about, like, reapers that are native to that realm?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Were they some other s*** on this side took it, went to that side and figured out they don't need it anymore? Are angels feral? Are reapers feral? Like, I don't know.

Cristina: It's complicated. I don't know.

Jack: So the problem is we didn't really investigate much into the Shadow Realm. We Got the surface data.

Cristina: So yeah, do more research.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Before we get in there, deep dive.

Jack: Into the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Maybe we can go through Yu Gi oh to find out Yu Gi oh.

Jack: Has the, the, the cards that are sent that'll send our souls there or whatever the f***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How the f*** does that work?

Cristina: I don't know. The Shadow Realm is connected somehow to.

Jack: Yu Gi oh, bro.

Cristina: To Yu Gi oh.

Jack: Duel monsters.

Cristina: Yes. Are probably a lot like the monsters you would find in the shroud.

Jack: You tell me. I could find the blue eyes white dragon and a red eyes black dragon.

Cristina: You could find an angel maybe.

Jack: I mean maybe. Right. Like f*** it, like what's. Fair enough, fair enough. I mean every other bullshit that anybody's ever thought of turned out real. So like whatever. I guess there's probably a Red eyes black. That's badass. I could just catch. So that means like a pokeball is probably real.

Cristina: In the Shadow Realm.

Jack: In the Shadow Realm. We don't need to even invent one. We just need to find it. Yeah, maybe that's a lie. Maybe that was just a fantasy. But we can still invent it in theory and then go catch instead of. I mean it'd be cool to still have a wedge edge and a winningo, but like, I much rather have like a red eyes black dragon. That's hardcore. Or God, it's a stupid looking f****** groundhog. I don't really care much for God.

Cristina: But that'd be crazy. You throw a ball, he comes out, everyone's confused because it's just a groundhog.

Jack: But he has the power to destroy everything.

Cristina: Exactly. He just snaps his finger, they disappear.

Jack: And for whatever reason, the only power he doesn't have is the ability to defeat normal groundhog problems.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Including cages.

Cristina: Yes. So yeah, that sounds right.

Jack: Yeah. I think I'd rather have a Wendigo because could we build technology that could mind control God? He is still a demigod.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like he's not impossible, but like.

Cristina: That'S why we need anything.

Jack: The huge problem here's problem, we need God to get to the cat people. The cat gods and their technology is then going to allow us to create tech to bring Wash God.

Cristina: Oh, it's.

Jack: We need one for the other no matter what.

Cristina: Yeah, okay. But we still have to understand their technology and whether it's actually technology or is it actual magic.

Jack: I mean, at this point it's probably just technology. It's completely possible. Adrenochrome got into the mix way long ago, created these hyper intelligent cat people. The Same way that later happened to us.

Cristina: And cockroach people.

Jack: Probably cockroach people. And apparently maybe just the theory, but the rabbit people inside the Death Star.

Cristina: Yes. I think this all. It checks out.

Jack: This checks out. Yeah. This is totally making sense. You know, all the pieces fall together.

Cristina: And so we gotta go into the.

Jack: Shadow Realm to get God. Interesting. Fascinating.

Cristina: Like, the person who's talking to Yu Gi. Oh, what is he? Is he an angel?

Jack: He is actually in the Shadow Realm, I think.

Cristina: Yeah, but what is he in the shadow Realm?

Jack: He's the spirit of a pharaoh.

Cristina: Dead people, man.

Jack: The Shadow Realm works a real way in that show, doesn't it? Yeah, he's the spirit of a guy who had, like, mystical powers.

Cristina: Ghosts can be in the shadow Realm?

Jack: Well, no. You're supposed to have taken adrenochrome so that when you die, you cross over to the shadow Realm. Oh.

Cristina: And he might have.

Jack: Okay, might have.

Cristina: We gotta go and check out that show then. Yes. I think that show will give us answers.

Jack: You think that show gives us answers? Yes, definitely. It would probably.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Tells us a lot. The fact that there was anybody in the shadow Realm and people were being sent to the shadow Realm and everybody had to participate in some sort of thing. A ritual of sorts.

Cristina: Exactly. You think they were drinking blood? I bet blood is involved.

Jack: I think blood is everything. Blood is life at this point.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. We're gonna find that out. We gotta rewatch Yu Gi. Oh, no, we don't. But we gotta research Yu Gi. Oh, for sure.

Jack: The weird thing is, which I don't understand. If Adrenochrome led apes to become humans. See, why does humans taking Adrenochrome not change us to something else?

Cristina: I thought they turned us into vampires or zombies.

Jack: It does. You're right.

Cristina: You got two results. I think zombies is if we stop taking it, and vampires if we continue taking it.

Jack: Interesting. Yeah, you're totally right. Which then brings up the next question. So we're a vampire. And we consume however much. So vampire is one of the milestones to becoming God.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So that there's no end. No, you'll continue to change.

Cristina: Yeah. Because that once you're a vampire, you have the ability to start transforming to other things.

Jack: I don't mean like shapeshift.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: I mean, like, how long does a vampire take Adrenochrome for before no longer a vampire.

Cristina: Oh, I don't know.

Jack: But. Because it looks like we can follow this line for everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Well, so we get a werewolf. Well, we get a wolf becomes werewolf. Becomes a win thingo or wet judge.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, like there's a line and.

Cristina: Then it becomes something else eventually.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There is in Shinto and what was the other? Not Native American spiritualism, but something similar to that where there are spirit beasts, giant animal, like God, like creatures that protect areas. That sounds like a God.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That came through a animal.

Cristina: You don't know what that's from. How are you gonna do research on that?

Jack: No, I don't know. I could. I'll look it up.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I know Shinto has a lot of that going on, spirit beasts and stuff like that. But I know that there's a specific belief system.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That has, like, giant spirit animals guarding, like, the woods or the lakes and like that.

Cristina: That does sound like Shinto, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay. Yes.

Jack: Find that research, because that sounds like something that took a lot of adrenochrome. Never died to cross over, but kept taking adrenochrome and maybe transcended into the next thing.

Cristina: Yes, that could be it. Yep. Yep.

Jack: Which means God is where everything lands Long enough.

Cristina: Yeah. As long as they don't die.

Jack: As long as they don't die. It's just hard to live really long without some factor or another killing you.

Cristina: Or maybe even killing yourself. I don't know.

Jack: Or running out of a supply of adrenochrome.

Cristina: Or that. Yeah.

Jack: And then that making you feral.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That sending you to madness.

Cristina: Yep. Yeah. There's so many different ways it can go.

Jack: Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

Cristina: Right. Then now we have two things we gotta check out.

Jack: Yeah. We gotta go look at the Shadow Realm and see if we can find Jehovah in his real home.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Should be some sort of similar looking, but oddly different location from his home over here when he does manifest.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: The Shadow Realm looks like a copy of over here.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But also not simultaneously. So it should. We will know where to go look in Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Yes. That place.

Jack: And then finding out what belief system it is that has these beasts that seem to just be godlike versions of normal animals.

Cristina: Mm. And in Yu Gi. Oh. Wasn't there angels?

Jack: No.

Cristina: There wasn't a card where the person looked like an angel.

Jack: Oh. I mean, the cards are.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean.

Jack: There was kind of everything. It was like a sentient clock.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That's like Pokemon.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I mean, all that s*** is weird. There's a bunch of. There's Dark Magician. Was he just a magician who crosses the Shadow Realm and now goes by dark?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, maybe. Man, are those cards based on f****** real things?

Cristina: Yes. We gotta check that out. That's part of the research that we gotta check out.

Jack: That's fair. I'm down.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Anyways, we're running out of time and. Yeah. So hopefully we can get those things done. Go into shadow realm, find Jehovah, throw a party. Throw a party?

Cristina: Yeah. With all the different people. What with Dave and Ish.

Jack: Oh, yeah. That's further down the line. Precedent is taken. By going to shadow Room, finding Jehovah and finding out what belief system was talking about, what seems to be animals have transcended through a dream to come all the way to God levels. Yes, that's useful.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hopefully also my voice heals so that I can talk normal. And next time I'll just make a subhuman deal with the f****** groundhog or whatever other f****** creature, because that's annoying and I can't talk.

Cristina: Well, that'd be crazy.

Jack: If another groundhog bites you, that'd be crazy. It has to be radioactive and, like, give me some power.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, man. I want to dig. Cool.

Cristina: You dig with your teeth.

Jack: That'd be dope. Although I don't think they do that, but yeah. No, I want to dig. Awesome. Or stop biting me. Groundhogs. And I want to be a God, which is why we got to get God to bite me or whatever. But he's gonna first bite subhumans because.

Cristina: Let'S see what that to people who.

Jack: Have the best immune system in the universe. Anyways, if you guys like this conversation, other conversations like this, you could find them anywhere. You know, we have a bunch of stuff like that talking about God as a groundhog, actually how we got to the conclusion that he was a groundhog and all this. And originally when we were talking about groundhogs and adrenochrome in the Shadow Realm. And the Shadow Realm and the creatures from within the shadow Realm, there's a little bit of everything. We. We're building the big picture now. Yes, that's what we're doing. We're bringing all the separate pieces now. We're building the puzzle. If you guys want to find all that stuff, you can find it on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is very important. And now you know that God is part of the shadow realm. Somebody might want to know that. Maybe you have some religious friends who are very in their religion, and you want them to know the truth. So you're gonna go every Sunday to their door, knock on the door and tell them, have you heard about Shadow Christ?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Do you want to let shadow Christ into your heart?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You can do that. All. All. All day, Every day.

Cristina: All day, Every day on Sunday.

Jack: All day, every day on Sunday. You knock on the door, be like, let shadow Christ into your heart.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they're gonna close the door because they think you're trolling, and you're gonna be like, this is what it feels like. Stop showing up in my f****** house every Sunday. Hit him right back. We're hurt.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. Bye.

Jack: The other day, I was thinking. I don't know what the made me think about this, but I was thinking about painting where the roadrunner. So it's the roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And Wile E. Coyote paints a replica of the mountains behind them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then he puts the painting in the way of the road so that the roadrunner slams into the painting that's painted on. No, it's a road.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: It's like a steel brick or a brick wall or something he made with the painting on it, thinking that thing is gonna run into the wall and knock itself out. But then it just runs up the road in the painting.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then the coyote looks around at it, and he's like, what the f***? And then he tries to run into it and he just hits the brick.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm like. And I'm like, that's kind of meta, not just. Not meta. It's weird. It's. They were thinking about this sort of psychedelic psychology long before that was normal.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: It's like it's both reality and not.

Cristina: The roadrunner's reality isn't. What's it. The coyote's reality?

Jack: I mean, they share reality. I'm saying the. The distinction of the painting and the rest of the world. There's some sort of aspect there that's weird because he did run into the painting. And I'm like, what thought did the. Right. Did the creator have that the artist have when he came up with that? And how meta must you be thinking to imagine a drawing in which there's another drawing with a creature running into it from the first drawing. That's meta as f***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's complicated. And that just makes it part of the story.

Cristina: That's very strange. He travels through. He's like a time traveler, in a way. Those things could be real places.

Jack: But here's the. Here's a point. Even if it's not, it's not. It could be a real place, but that itself is not. That's the coyote's rendering.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that's not a location that exists anywhere but in the coyote's mind. So then the question is that the Roadrunner run into the coyote's mind? Well, not really. But like, this universe he made up became a real reality to the Roadrunner.

Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister. With social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 149: God is a Groundhog

Is God a Groundhog? Does DC make good films or are they trying to race to the position or Marvel without the leg work? Did rock steady create the greatest super hero game? The duo unpacks how Jehovah turned out to be a groundhog, the plans they have to catch him and what other plans are in their “big picture” for the future.

Rambling 149: God is a Groundhog

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  • Suicide Squad
  • Marvel vs DC
  • Flash vs Spiderman
  • Rocksteady
  • Arkham Series
  • Spiderman PS4
  • The Joker
  • The Killing Joke
  • The Bible and Groundhogs
  • Groundhog Jesus
  • Moles, Groundhogs and Gophers
  • Dimensional Portals
  • Cat Gods
  • The Apocalypse

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes, and today is particularly interesting because we finally got the f*** off of Mars.

Cristina: Where are we?

Jack: Back in the regular studio?

Cristina: Oh, that's lame. I was hoping for something more exciting, like, I don't know, another planet.

Jack: No, we were just interrogating a bunch of people and using the information we.

Cristina: Had, we're getting somewhere.

Jack: We totally got everything we needed from that.

Cristina: Except we're not actually doing that trip.

Jack: We're not doing that trip. Not yet.

Cristina: Yes. But, like, when that trip happens, we're not involved.

Jack: No. Because we can't risk dying.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: We're important.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Not the subhuman.

Cristina: So, yeah, they're there.

Jack: Go die. Yeah, but if they come back and they're like, no, it's safe. Then we go. I guess that's really what we're waiting for.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Now that we have all the moving parts, the subhumans are going to get bitten by radioactive beaver God Jehovah. Who? Oh, it's Groundhog God. And then.

Cristina: Yeah, Groundhog.

Jack: Yeah. And then. Well, I guess it's a combo because we're also giving the sub humans adrenochrome as well. And we're letting groundhog God bite these subhumans. So there's super mega duper ultra or they die.

Cristina: How are we going to convince him to do that for us? Oh, no, we're going to, like, try to catch him anyway. And if he bites them, then that's fine, because that's part of the plan.

Jack: Exactly. Exactly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're gonna try to catch God. So that's already a plan that has to happen. Acquiring adrenochrome, which we have in abundance. That's not really a problem. Our main concern on, like, most days is where everybody else is getting adrenochrome, because it's like, okay, that's kind of f***** up. We got subhumans kind of offering themselves. That's cool. Whatever.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But, like, where the f*** is it? They don't have an army of just people offering themselves as sacrifice. Where the H***, is everybody else getting adrenochrome?

Cristina: That's what's kidnapping people.

Jack: Yeah, I know. That's why it's sketchy. Oh, yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's the reason. It's bad.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, yeah. So we got that plan in motion. We got sub humans going to be taking adrenochrome, becoming more super, and hopefully catching groundhog God and getting him to bite the subhumans and kind of like rolling around in radioactive waste. They'll get superpowers. Hopefully they don't die.

Cristina: That's what we're hoping. Yeah.

Jack: Then we fling them through the Pyramid of Giza.

Cristina: Hopefully that doesn't kill us.

Jack: Hopefully that doesn't kill them. Using entanglement into the great void, where presumably the cat people are. As according to the information given to us by the.

Cristina: Hopefully they're not lying about that. Yes.

Jack: So, yeah. There's a bunch of maybes in the way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And hopefully those maybes don't result in the death of quite a few individuals.

Cristina: Yep. But luckily, we have so many of them too, so.

Jack: Yeah. There's billions.

Cristina: There's billions.

Jack: There's billions.

Cristina: How often are people getting abortions?

Jack: It's more than anything. More than anything. Which is something we've never discussed, but most subhumans are female.

Cristina: Are they also Chinese?

Jack: Well, we know they're all Chinese.

Cristina: They're not all Chinese. They're all Chinese.

Jack: Yes. China is the one that gives us the subhumans.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Oh.

Cristina: Because our country didn't want to go through the plan.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: That's why we get them from others.

Cristina: Oh, okay. I thought the technology was from them. I didn't know the sub humans themselves were also part of that.

Jack: We get the sub humans just straight out from China. From China. They're all Chinese. Like, 99% of them are female.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. What?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh. What? I thought that. I don't know.

Jack: No, no. Subhumans are just overpowered women who are hyper intelligent, incredibly strong, incredibly fast. Superior to most beings on Earth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just women. Armies of women.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: I mean, there's a guy here and there. It's not like they're all women, but it's like.

Cristina: Are they, like, deformed guys or. They would have been, unless they.

Jack: Yeah, a lot of them are. A lot of them would have been, like, the really strong r***** or something.

Cristina: Oh, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. There's consistency here. This narrative makes sense.

Cristina: Yes. What? Yeah.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's horrible, but I guess so. No other country. But after seeing what's going on. No one is like, have some of ours.

Jack: No, because there's no reason to. We can just kill all our babies. And I guess a lot of the African babies and in just use a bunch of Chinese people because they're always willing.

Cristina: But why do they want to destroy their babies?

Jack: Why does who want to destroy?

Cristina: I don't know, the other countries.

Jack: They don't care.

Cristina: They don't care.

Jack: Yeah. Science is stupid.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Haven't you seen what's happening in this country? Religious people are like, science doesn't make sense.

Cristina: Science doesn't make sense.

Jack: Yeah, everybody's denying science lately.

Cristina: Oh, oh, man.

Jack: Yeah, that's been happening for quite a while too.

Cristina: But it would have been, I don't know. We've been in space. I've been busy with space stuff.

Jack: We have been busy with. Well, not really space stuff. We've for the most, for like a good three to like five months, been really busy dealing with like weird creatures on Earth.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then we sent all the ones we captured to Mars, which just means we took a trip through space. But we haven't really been busy with space stuff, per se.

Cristina: Not really. I guess we've been doing a lot of exploring on Earth.

Jack: Yeah, mainly. Mainly hunting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Been hunting creatures now. We got a nice collection. There's way more creatures, but, you know, we capture a bunch and we go and experiment and question and deal with.

Cristina: Them for a little and then we keep them. Like Pokemon?

Jack: Yeah, sort of like Pokemon. I wonder if we can get some Pokeballs invented, some Pokeball equivalents, some Pokeball esque kind of technology so that we can like put a wet judge inside one complicated and then throw it out there.

Cristina: How do you shrink something and keep it alive?

Jack: We turn it into pure energy. We don't shrink it. We turn to pure energy. And energy can be compressed into any size. We just need something that we can hold. But we also need mind control technology that could also be turned into pure energy and contained within the same thing.

Cristina: Why do we need mind control?

Jack: Because why the h*** would I release a wet judge in front of me if I am not 1000% sure it's not gonna kill me?

Cristina: Oh, yeah, yeah. Mind control would be a good idea.

Jack: Yeah. So we need mind control technology and some sort of thing.

Cristina: I thought the government had mind control.

Jack: Technology that we can turn into pure energy and would continue to control. That's what we need to cat people. Oh, this s*** looks like magic, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What's more magical than some technology that doesn't fall apart in Being turned to pure energy.

Cristina: M. Mmm. That's complicated.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: There's a way. There's a way. There's a direction. Here we can go. Yeah, there are things that are under development, but think about how overpowered we'll be if we could just roam around with these contraptions that are small and we could just keep in our pocket. But I can contain some vicious monsters that could off anything in my way. And it just obeys what I say.

Cristina: So wrong. It's wrong.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: It's just like having subhumans. Why not just have a bunch of balls of subhumans?

Jack: Well, subhumans could just walk next to me and I'd be like, go do a thing. And they'll just do it. But like, what if we want cooler creatures? The subhumans suck.

Cristina: They're not even mind controlled.

Jack: Yeah, are they?

Cristina: No, they're not.

Jack: They're not mind controlled.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: Subhumans are just obedient.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah, completely.

Jack: Completely.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Undisputably.

Cristina: That's so strange. I don't know. There has to be some weird thing happening with that technology. That's not just what they're telling us.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: They just do whatever.

Jack: Yes, communism.

Cristina: So. But they still have feelings, don't they? Who says happened to their feelings?

Jack: I mean, they have feelings, but they're also obedient. They're soldiers.

Cristina: They're soldiers. Isn't that a danger? I don't know.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because they could turn on us?

Jack: No, but they won't because soldiers are trained not to.

Cristina: And that's never happened. Soldiers have never betrayed.

Jack: I mean, a soldier here and there, but there's never been like a military uprising against the military power.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: There's always just kind of like, yeah, sure, the guns we gave you, but like, I got the button that drops a nuke on you. So, like, calm down.

Cristina: Okay. And I guess we have a lot of those.

Jack: Yeah. Like, the subhumans might be op, but like, at the end of the day, we can just press a button and you're gone. Chances are some explosives or some s*** inside of them too, just in case.

Cristina: There'S explosives inside of them.

Jack: There might be.

Cristina: There might be.

Jack: They might just be, you know, 1 billion worth of, like, death squad or whatever their name is.

Cristina: What is death squad? What are you talking about?

Jack: Isn't that Suicide squad? It might be like suicide Squad.

Cristina: They have bombs in them.

Jack: Yeah, Suicide Squad. People don't pay attention. They just get murdered. That's why they do it. They're not willing. They are Obligated.

Cristina: Oh, why don't they ever die? I don't know. I haven't seen those movies. They're so horrible. Whatever.

Jack: Movies don't matter. Like, the real Suicide Squad works like that.

Cristina: There's a real Suicide Squad?

Jack: Yeah. It's not some made up s*** that's based on some real s***.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: They're all just victims. Or I guess they're criminals who are turned into victims.

Cristina: Wait, they're based on people that were doing that?

Jack: They're based on the comic book series.

Cristina: Comic books. Okay.

Jack: Suicide Squad.

Cristina: All right. I don't know. I don't know about Suicide Squad. Is it the same people too? The same characters?

Jack: There's a bunch. There's different iterations. It's like the Avengers aren't always the same people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All these groups.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Have different versions. And this is one of them.

Cristina: Ah, Is this the lamest one of them?

Jack: No, they're probably all pretty lame. It's more about the DC being garbage as f***.

Cristina: Mmm. Okay.

Jack: It doesn't matter who they would have had there. It would have still been a s***** movie. The writers are garbage. They don't do the work. They just want to race all the way to the front, the way f******. They want the credit that Marvel gets without putting in the work that Marvel does.

Cristina: Like that trailer. Trailer I saw recently. It was for the Flash movie and.

Jack: It was basically just them robbing Spider Man's concept.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Of like, well, the universe and you change reality.

Cristina: And now there's more than one of you.

Jack: Yeah, there's three flashes and it's like, what the f. There's in. Like, we don't care about these random flashes.

Cristina: We don't even care about the main Flash.

Jack: You're telling me you brought in two other flashes that I've never seen ever. Just random other flashes. You're not even bringing, like, Barry from the show. Flash. That would make Flash.

Cristina: That makes sense.

Jack: Yeah. That would make so much sense if that Flash showed. But you're not even doing that.

Cristina: There's just no understand why they got a new Flash. Like if this Flash, this the one for the show, has a huge following, I'm. I'm guessing, right?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like, wouldn't it be easier just to make him have the movie instead of having a new actor that we have to fall in love with, I guess, playing this character. Yeah.

Jack: They're trying to make their own Tom Holland and it's not working because Tom Holland is Tom Holland.

Cristina: Tom Holland, Yes. Well, he's now Nathan Drake, too.

Jack: Yeah. Because he's overpowered. He's a really good actor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And, like, you can't just hire garbage and be like, well, this guy's gonna be amazing. And they're all gonna. No, they're not. And you just stole the Spider man plot, and still nobody gives a f***.

Cristina: Because we don't know that's the Spider man plot. They, like rumors getting up to sale.

Jack: Exactly. But, like, the problem is all these Spider men are from previous Spider man movies.

Cristina: Yeah. Everyone cares about them.

Jack: Yeah. So we like. Oh, the one from the. Or the one not f******. There's one Flash that was in one movie with others, and it was particularly bad movie, and they just made it.

Cristina: And it was still bad.

Jack: Yeah. So he showed up for that one thing, and now you're making the Flash movie like he was the big s*** and everybody loved them. And then you're bringing two other hymns, sort of taking away the point of him being there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because now we got to care about these other two Flash. You were still trying to give a f*** about. The one just brought in more because Marvel's doing it. We got it. Like, bro, you're never gonna get to the front. You're never winning.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Not at this rate.

Cristina: No.

Jack: They got. How many movies before every Avengers thing? Like, come on. They build it up gradually. You started at the Justice League. You were.

Cristina: That is weird.

Jack: They have Avengers, but they got like 15 movies before the first Avengers. But you know what? You know what? You know what? We're going.

Cristina: I mean, I guess they did what, a few spite. No. Was it a Batman movie, a Superman movie, a Wonder Woman movie? And then the big group movie thing.

Jack: Was the Wonder Woman movie before the Justice League movie?

Cristina: Oh, maybe it wasn't.

Jack: I feel. No. There was Batman versus Superman, Right?

Cristina: Oh, yeah, it was that first.

Jack: That's where she showed up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because these were new Batman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It wasn't like the recent. Batman had his own movie.

Cristina: He didn't know. I thought they had their own, and then they had it together.

Jack: I don't think there was a Batfleck Batman. That was just Batfleck Batman.

Cristina: Oh, he just showed up in Superman.

Jack: I don't know. Let's find out.

Cristina: So you're right. It is. He was only in one movie, which is the Batman versus Superman.

Jack: So that's where he came into existence. I know Superman had a movie first.

Cristina: Yes. But that was the same Superman.

Jack: I believe it was the same Superman. Yes.

Cristina: And it was one movie or three movies or.

Jack: It was one movie. One movie might have been two I'm not entirely sure. But the only one who had previous history in, like, the current.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Was that Superman, because the Batman before this Batman was Christian Bale.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: For the Dark Knight Batman series. And that Batman isn't this Batman. That's a different universe.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So this Batman only exists for Batman versus Superman.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where Wonder Woman gets introduced. So we got two new superheroes who did not have their own movies. And then Superman, who had one, maybe two movies. So it was Superman, then Batman versus Superman. Superman, including Superwoman, and then finally a Justice League movie. Like, they somehow built up to it.

Cristina: There's something not right.

Jack: Meanwhile, Iron Man 1, and I believe, Iron Man 2. Hulk. There was what the else was this. Thor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: America.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There was. There was work. There was work.

Cristina: There was a lot of movies. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Then Avengers, Then all those had one to two more movies.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And others had movies. And then second Avengers movie. Then again, Mad had movies more. So every time there's more than before. Nevertheless, there's a lot of movies. It was like five at the beginning. Avengers, then like 10, then Avengers, then like 20, then Avengers.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, right now it's not just movies, but it's movies and TV shows.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And probably cartoons.

Jack: All like.

Cristina: Like, all related to the same thing.

Jack: To make one f****** thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: While D.C. is just made of garbage.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Well, you guys love. No, no. The reason we love Marvel isn't because we love superheroes. Objectively. I don't like superheroes. Superheroes are f****** stupid. Most of them are kind of gay.

Cristina: You don't even like Super Spider Man. Do you like Spider Man?

Jack: Spider man might be one of the only ones, because the reality of Spider man is kind of a womanizer. Nobody really registers the fact that he saves people. He doesn't need to. And takes them to the top of buildings, which takes them.

Cristina: I don't care about.

Jack: Yeah, he's. Because he gets away with it.

Cristina: Yes. But so many superheroes do.

Jack: Not the way he does. He's kind of as Scooby.

Cristina: He's what?

Jack: Because he has to hold them a certain way in order to continue swinging as well. So he's holding them from. While they're pressed against him. Or he's holding. And so he's a very interesting guy in that he gets to kind of feel people up, particularly women. He doesn't treat guys like that.

Cristina: We don't know that.

Jack: Well, what we see is that he doesn't treat guys like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Treats women like that. So, yeah. An interesting, inappropriate feller. But DC Sucks.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Marvel works for it. DC just wants. They just want what they get for Marvel has. Nobody cares about superheroes like that. They care about the work. There is an interest in seeing conclusions and growth and progress. And these characters age and change. And the casting is kind of astounding. Robert Downey Jr. And Iron man are the same f****** thing. Like, Robert Downey Jr. Isn't acting. He's just pretending to have a different name and just being him.

Cristina: These characters, we get to watch them grow, which I don't. I doubt we see in Batman in any of those mc. I mean, any of those DC movies.

Jack: Yeah, like those.

Cristina: Do any of them change at all? Are they the same character the whole time?

Jack: Yeah, they're pretty black. And I mean, Wonder Woman is the only one. But we don't even see her really grow. We get her past and then her current state in the present and like, we don't see the change. While we literally see opinions alter in the Marvel universe.

Cristina: That's why that epic movie with them going against each other. Yes.

Jack: That's some crazy s***. Just good guys versus good guys. Because we disagree.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. They can't do that. Because it wouldn't make any sense. That Batman vs Superman probably didn't make much sense. It just. Batman doesn't like Superman because he's an alien. That's enough for him.

Jack: That's so dumb. There was philosophic ideology being questioned in Civil War.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And as the viewer, you can sit back and question it. You can truly take a seat back and be wondering, who do I side with? Do I believe their identities should be kept secret and they shouldn't be held accountable because they are saving the world? Or should there be rules and regulations and then be held accountable and their identities not be kept secret? Which, yes, theoretically endangers their families, but also they themselves are a danger to cities and people, everyone's family. So who do you side with?

Cristina: That's really.

Jack: Neither argument makes either side a bad guy.

Cristina: No.

Jack: I should have the ability to save people regardless, because the. The dangers that are coming are worse than what happens in stopping the danger. That's a pretty good argument. Like, you're saving more people regardless if the world gets destroyed. What's the point if I destroy one city saving the world? Well, the world got saved.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Versus the. Well, we consistently destroy. S***. We should be held accountable. We will be restricted. And there's a chance that because of those restrictions we fail, but we were held accountable. And it's like, I get it. You are being held accountable. And you are watching out to not kill people in the process of trying to save people. That makes sense.

Cristina: To be accountable after saving.

Jack: To be held accountable. And there'd be rules and regulations and restrictions on what you can do so that you don't just level a city.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Figure out how to save the world without leveling a city.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Like, both arguments are pretty solid.

Cristina: Yeah. Did they come up with a conclusion in the end? What was the conclusion? They just kept their. They just kept their identities though, right? I think.

Jack: I don't know. I don't remember how that f****** concludes. I just know Batman versus Superman was like, I don't trust him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, bro. What?

Cristina: But then it's like, oh, his mom has the same name as my mom. Now I trust him. Is that it?

Jack: That's some like that. Yeah, it was some like that. That's crazy, dude.

Cristina: I don't know who watches these. Beautiful.

Jack: That's crazy. It is Martha Kent and Martha Wayne, right?

Cristina: I don't know. Maybe I think it's Martha.

Jack: I think that was Martha.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because Martha Kent and Martha Wayne. So I don't know. It just made sense in the mind of those f****** writers.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: And then like, what is even this? Justice League? How the f*** do you guys know each other? You like, well, you got powers. Come on, let's go f****** fight together.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, no, we don't give a s***. You just half robot. Great. Whatever, dude. Like, yeah, I'm f****** half robot. And I like played football. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna f***** like, dude, dude, maybe. Maybe we see proof that you're the good guy. Not just Batman shows up and he's like, you're a good guy. Join us. What the f***, dude?

Cristina: You want a cyborg movie beforehand?

Jack: That would make sense. We got a whole Iron man movie before f******. What is it? His name, Nick Fury shows up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And is like, I'm building a team.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, we need you.

Cristina: Because he does this ever movie. Because not a lot of people know Cyborg. Nah, like they might like if they're lucky. Some people saw the cartoon that he was in, Teen Titans, but I doubt a lot of people did.

Jack: Yeah, I know.

Cristina: They know Superman. Batman.

Jack: And Wonder Woman.

Cristina: And Wonder Woman.

Jack: And Flash.

Cristina: The Flash.

Jack: Yeah, and the Green Lantern.

Cristina: I guess some people don't. Yeah, because of that movie.

Jack: No, because of the movie. Green Lantern is quite popular.

Cristina: It is. Okay.

Jack: Green Lantern's popular, Flash is popular. Batman's popular. Superman is popular. Wonder Woman is popular. Out of all of them, the most popular is Batman. Like, hands down, he has the most movies, the most cartoons, and he's well known for his villains who are way more interesting than he will ever be.

Cristina: Most games. Video games, Yes. I feel like.

Jack: Yeah, dc.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Why?

Jack: Spider man has way more games. Spider man has way more games than any other superhero. I believe every single console generation has had one or two Spider man games, starting back at, like, Super Nintendo.

Cristina: Oh, man, I missed out. Okay. Whoa.

Jack: And even when the movies came out, there was one per movie. There was. P.S. no.

Cristina: Oh, they were so good. Okay.

Jack: They're pretty good. The first one was all right. It wasn't, like, astounding, but it was like a legit good, believable, great game. Then the second game was one of the greatest superhero games of all time to this day. Acclaimed for its amazing or like, like, movement revolutionization.

Cristina: Was it the same story as the movies?

Jack: A lot of the. The main core story was. And then there was a bunch of side s*** that never happened in the.

Cristina: Movies, but it was very Marvel related.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Characters that probably weren't in the movie and stuff like that.

Jack: Yeah, they never add. They never. Nobody's ever made up a new character that would suck. That just happened for Batman. Arkham Knight.

Cristina: They made up a character.

Jack: Well, they. They didn't necessarily make up a character. They may. They originated a character. Yeah, they. They created a new origin story.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Arkham Knight is Red Hood.

Cristina: Okay. And people probably know him as Red Hood.

Jack: People know him as Red Hood, but not Arkham Knight.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And that is amazing how they twisted this and made an entire game revolve around.

Cristina: And it still makes all sense.

Jack: And it still made perfect sense. That's fire.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's amazing.

Cristina: DC doing it right. Well, not dc.

Jack: That's not dc.

Cristina: That's Rocksteady. Rocksteady doing it right.

Jack: That's Rock Steady doing it right. Once they got their hands on that, they did nothing but fire all the way in. Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight, Arkham Origins, the Arkham series, whatever, is their.

Cristina: Newest one is going to be. That's gonna be interesting.

Jack: But that's not them.

Cristina: That's not.

Jack: It's not them. It's somebody. But look, they already laid down the bricks that everybody else can use. Not only that, but already every game after Rocksteady created this amazing fighting mechanic, every game has been.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we can expect the next Batman game where you can play two, three, four superheroes, depending on how many that. That's gonna be. Pretty badass. And the fact that it's co op.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: But Rocksteady did that. Amazing. And it's the only game that to this day competes with. And it's arguably better than the Spider man series.

Cristina: It's better. Well, I guess.

Jack: I guess you go ahead and tell me. Spider Man PS4 versus Arkham Knight, please. Arkham Knight. Not to say Spider Man PS4 isn't astounding.

Cristina: Yes. And they both. They both have their weaknesses, but like they're both perfect. I'm just thinking of like the weird car stuff in one of those Batman games. Arkham Knight. Yeah. That was like. But I don't get it. In Spider man though. It had a side thing that was super annoying too. That was like. The game is perfect. It's just this quest that you have to do for some reason was really annoying, but everything else was perfect.

Jack: But like, which one's better to you?

Cristina: To me?

Jack: Yeah. Which one do you think is a better game?

Cristina: The Batman game.

Jack: My only argument for these would be that obviously Batman is a significantly more serious, like dark, like legitimately, literally darker game. Like visually story wise. Although I will say that out of all the Spider man games and even some Spider man movies, this game is the most adult of all of those. It is focusing heavily on some real, real adult themes.

Cristina: We can't get dark. Darker than like Joker.

Jack: No. Because that's f***** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You can only put that in Batman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There isn't a villain in any other thing that I have seen. F*** like that. And like the movie Clockworks Orange. That guy can still not compete.

Cristina: No, no, no, no. You know, I don't think so.

Jack: There's no villain who's catching up to the Joker. He's objectively. And it's crazy because it's not even like with purpose, which is the most f***** part. It's just cuz he felt like doing it. Doesn't matter what the f*** it is we're talking about, he just felt like doing it. You know, kidnap Barbara, I'll rape her, I'll record myself doing it. I'll beat her, I'll torture her, and I'll send that to her father. Why? Cuz funny.

Cristina: I don't understand. It's so horrible. That was in a game though. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't.

Jack: That was in the game.

Cristina: I saw that somewhere.

Jack: That was in the game. But that was also a movie. It was all in what family? Some s*** family. What? The Killing Joke?

Cristina: Horrible. Yes.

Jack: That's f*****.

Cristina: Yeah, that's. That shouldn't Be a movie. Oh, man. I would like to see that as a movie. No, it's too dark.

Jack: It is, man. That would be a crazy f******. That would be amazing, though. Can you imagine a live action movie circling that topic? That'd be the darkest Batman movie ever.

Cristina: Yes, that would be. I don't think people could watch that. I don't know. I don't think so.

Jack: That's the day we need Jake Gyllenhaal to play Joker.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: We need him to be able to go as f***** as possible.

Cristina: I don't know. Would he be into that movie? That movie is so crazy. It's just too crazy.

Jack: It's Jake Gyllenhaal crazy.

Cristina: It's the first. It's. It's really a good example of Joker, I guess it's the best example.

Jack: It's the best example of Joker. All of that for an idea at most. And he's half committed to the idea was just mainly because he was funny and he wanted to do it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Half committed to the idea. It's just. I had a thought. I'm gonna follow through with the thought. At the end of the thought.

Cristina: Mm. That's the one where he thought he was dying. Is that the same one?

Jack: No, that's a whole other thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, that's a whole other scenario.

Cristina: Oh, all right.

Jack: So awesome. It's just everything involving the Joker is so badass.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They should just abandon all of the bullshit that's happening in dc.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just focus on the Joker. That seems to go pretty well.

Cristina: Except for that one time where they did the first suicide. When they did the first Suicide Squad movie.

Jack: That was. That had no Joker in it. I know. They had, like, what, three minutes of them?

Cristina: They should have focused on Joker. I mean.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like I'm saying, any time they have focus on Joker twerked.

Cristina: Exactly. They know that. So what? Did they. Why.

Jack: No, they don't know that. That's why they did that. Well, if they did know that, they wouldn't have done that.

Cristina: I thought they did that because they knew. Oh, you like this character. Here he is for a few seconds. Maybe you'll still love this movie. I don't know.

Jack: No, I'm pretty sure there was more of him. It was based on him. And then they kind of decided, oh.

Cristina: Okay, DC has no clue what the.

Jack: F*** they're doing is some of what's happening.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. They should focus on the Joker. He's so creepy. He's a nightmare. He is a nightmare.

Jack: Yeah. Joker's problematic, but I don't know what the f*** is wrong with DC anyways. Just like the Suicide Squad people, old subhumans probably got explosives inside of them or some there's some red that's stopping them from flipping on us. Other than military commitment, it's gotta be explosives.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: Think.

Cristina: Hmm?

Jack: I don't know. We don't need to know. We just know. They're obedient. Yeah, they're obedient. And they do what we say, how we say, because we say. And they don't even question it.

Cristina: They're gonna be bitten by some wild animal. That's gonna be interesting.

Jack: It's not a wild animal.

Cristina: It's God, I guess. But he's disguised as a wild animal.

Jack: Or that's his real form. Or that God made other groundhogs in his image. When he said I made man in my image, we thought it was us. We called ourselves Man.

Cristina: He was a groundhog.

Jack: Groundhogs are men.

Cristina: Oh, crap. So are we men. Wait, so does that make us groundhogs?

Jack: No, we just. We're just.

Cristina: Should we just change our name?

Jack: We're just apes. We've had a name. We're just like. We're man though. No, no, Groundhog are men.

Cristina: What about humans? We're not humans either.

Jack: We gave ourselves a title. We're primates.

Cristina: Or primates.

Jack: Okay, Particular like a derivative of chimp or some s***.

Cristina: So we should call ourselves primates though. Yeah, just stick to that.

Jack: Yeah, we're definitely some sort of primate, all right. Human is a self given title because we're f****** full of ourselves and believe that, you know, God's chose. We think we're the main character always. And if God chose, somebody had to be us. It couldn't be f****** groundhogs.

Cristina: It was the groundhog.

Jack: It was the groundhogs.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Yeah. Groundhogs are man. You heard it here first, people.

Cristina: That's so life changing.

Jack: Why? How does it change your life to know the groundhog are men?

Cristina: I don't. Because does that mean, like all the stories are based on groundhogs?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like we're picturing humans going through all this?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: You're saying it's not humans?

Jack: I'm sure dolphins think it's them. The Bible is talking about. Whaat they're like. Yeah, of course. It was like the dolphin from the east that experienced all this.

Cristina: Of course.

Jack: Jesus was a dolphin.

Cristina: Adam and Eve is a dolphin.

Jack: Adam and Eve were dolphins.

Cristina: Okay, how did the garden work? It was an underwater garden.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It Was an underwater garden.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. Okay.

Jack: I mean, everything is adapted, isn't it? Jesus is from an area which dictates his skin would be particularly dark. But over here we're like nice light skinned because we decided he's white now.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So like, why would it be a stretch to say anybody else is doing the same thing? Nevertheless, we did the same thing collectively. And just saying humans, and not only then human, but like between different areas, different versions of human.

Cristina: Different versions of human.

Jack: Yeah. Over there he's black. Over here he's white.

Cristina: Okay. But in truth, he is a groundhog. A groundhog.

Jack: Jesus was a groundhog, alright. Adam and Eve were the first two groundhogs to not be Jehovah.

Cristina: Yes, that is very strange.

Jack: Okay, first there was a groundhog called Adam. And then out of Adam the groundhog's ribbon came Eve the groundhog.

Cristina: What about, what's that other lady, Lilith? Is she a groundhog too?

Jack: Yes, everybody's a groundhog.

Cristina: Everybody.

Jack: Everybody in the Bible's groundhog.

Cristina: And she turned into a demon.

Jack: That's why demons have weird shapes. We're like, oh my God, it looks like some kind of crazy.

Cristina: No, she was just a shapeshifter. But wait, so these groundhogs, the first groundhogs, had shape shifting abilities? Like deeper than God?

Jack: Just the one, just little. Not all of them. Just the nor. Anybody who had normal shape shifting abilities and we're thinking they have it from human, will have the same shape shifting ability. Except they're groundhog. That hasn't changed.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: The rules haven't changed. We just have to think groundhog instead of human.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: Except groundhog is human. Not even human. Man. Man is groundhog.

Cristina: Yes, human.

Jack: Well, that's us. Whatever. But man is groundhog.

Cristina: Okay, that's so ridiculous.

Jack: But it's the truth.

Cristina: The truth?

Jack: Yeah, it's the undisputable truth. The Bible's talking about groundhogs.

Cristina: Yeah. The world needs to know this though. I guess it's important. It's crazy. How do we find this out? We haven't really found this out yet though.

Jack: Yeah, we're assuming God is a groundhog and then gonna go hunt a groundhog down to see if it's God.

Cristina: But how do we find out whether he's God or not?

Jack: We're gonna go get the original groundhog, the one that tells us the weather.

Cristina: He's just gonna tell us that?

Jack: Yes, because God doesn't lie. We could just ask him. He's all good.

Cristina: He should tell the truth.

Jack: He should always tell the truth. We're gonna be like, are you God? Mmm. It took millions of years for somebody to pose this question, but yes. And then, boom, we drop a cage on him and he's caught. Because his one and only weakness is normal groundhog weaknesses. He's a groundhog? He's a God up until that point.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. That's how it goes.

Cristina: Is he living a normal groundhog life?

Jack: What would you consider normal groundhog life?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Whatever they do digging holes.

Cristina: Digging, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: God just spends all day digging holes.

Cristina: Is that what they do? I feel like that's why they're called groundhogs. Right.

Jack: I'm assuming groundhog is a lot like a beaver. Probably building some sort of. D***.

Cristina: But don't they come out of holes?

Jack: Maybe. I don't know.

Cristina: Isn't that part of their story?

Jack: But like, after you have your hole built, like, what do you do? You built another hole?

Cristina: Yeah. You have a whole tunnel system underground.

Jack: Is that what they do?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: And what do they do with the tunnel system?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: I got tunnels. Cool, cool. Where do they go? To other tunnels?

Cristina: Yes. To run from predators somehow.

Jack: Now what's the name of that game where you hit the thing and its head goes down, pops up and.

Cristina: Are those groundhogs?

Jack: No. I'm asking what the f*** that is.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It's a weasel.

Cristina: Weasel? Are you sure?

Jack: Yes. Pop goes a weasel. Is that what it is? Hitting the f****** hammer thing?

Cristina: I know what you're talking about.

Jack: I feel like weasel is the wrong word, though. It's not a groundhog, though.

Cristina: It's not a weasel. Are you sure?

Jack: Is it whack a mole?

Cristina: Whack a mole.

Jack: So it's a mole.

Cristina: Oh, are we thinking of moles when we're thinking of groundhogs, man? Are they the same thing?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Are you positive?

Jack: No.

Cristina: If we look at a picture, would they look like different things?

Jack: I don't know. Let's find out right now. Let's. Let's have this pulled up and see if a groundhog and a mole are the same thing. Because I've never thought of these two things simultaneously. Maybe we could be wrong. Maybe they're like cousins. Like a groundhog is a type of mole or a mole is a of type groundhog.

Cristina: That could be.

Jack: But I feel like a mole and a beaver are, like, related. And a beaver isn't out there digging holes, it's out there building dams. But they look a lot alike.

Cristina: They do look a Lot alike.

Jack: And there's like the big rat thing that also looks like them.

Cristina: What big rat thing?

Jack: It's just a rat that's really huge.

Cristina: Is that a mole?

Jack: No, it just looks like a groundhog or a beaver.

Cristina: Moles are giant rats.

Jack: Holy f***. What's a gopher?

Cristina: Gopher? I don't know. I've heard of a gopher, but I have no idea.

Jack: S***. That's another one.

Cristina: Is a gopher a mole? Cause they're not showing us any moles.

Jack: Is it? I don't know. Is a gopher mole? It might be. So you tell me.

Cristina: It looks like a giant hamster. Like a humongous hamster.

Jack: I don't know. Gopher, mole, vole, vol.

Cristina: I do not know the difference. This picture is not helpful. Okay.

Jack: Point is, a groundhog is not a mole or a gopher. It is, but a gopher does dig a hole. I know that much.

Cristina: There's a mole. That's what a mole looks like. Oh, they're blind.

Jack: Yeah, a mole is some other s***.

Cristina: They live in holes for sure.

Jack: For sure. I think they exclude.

Cristina: So does a gopher. I'm so they all. They're all. They're just giant rats that live in the ground. I think that's what they all are.

Jack: Except the groundhog.

Cristina: No, groundhog too. Why would groundhog not live underground? It's in their name.

Jack: Why would a groundhog live underground?

Cristina: Cuz they. Cuz their name. They're hogs that live underground.

Jack: Okay, that's crazy weird. So groundhogs are probably what people see most often because gophers are barely ever overground at all. They kind of not just dig holes, but almost exclusively live underground. And some mammals that just lives underground.

Cristina: Are moles the same?

Jack: I don't know. But I know gopher.

Cristina: They're the blind ones.

Jack: They probably also just live underground. But a gopher is rarely ever above ground. And a groundhog does come out. In fact, a groundhog exists primarily outside of the ground.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So for a groundhog, the ground is just a home to store things.

Cristina: Oh yeah.

Jack: They sleep there. They hoard food there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they do have complicated tunnel systems. But that's just to pop up somewhere, somewhere else and go hunt.

Cristina: That's what I was thinking.

Jack: Yeah. So when we see something, it's a go. A groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We don't see gophers and probably don't see moles all that often. That being said, there is a significant size difference as well as a gopher is about 2 pounds. And a groundhog is about 12.

Cristina: That is huge.

Jack: There's a huge physical difference.

Cristina: Yeah. Whoa. Is that 12?

Jack: Yeah. About £12 for a groundhog.

Cristina: They call it a giant squirrel, though.

Jack: Yeah. Which it's also. All of the above is under rodents. They are all different rats.

Cristina: Okay. What? And you know, groundhogs are also called woodchucks.

Jack: A groundhog is a woodchuck.

Cristina: Yes. That's why the answer is 00 wood. Because groundhogs don't.

Jack: Because a woodchuck doesn't chuck wood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. Because that's the answer. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? None. Because a woodchuck doesn't chuck wood.

Cristina: I think that's right. Why did they call them woodchucks? I guess cuz they're teeth. They still have those giant teeth. Like they look like they can do something.

Jack: And a beaver isn't a f****** woodchuck. A beaver f**** with wood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's how they build a dam.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know what their nicknames are. Maybe they also are called woodchucks.

Jack: Maybe all these f****** that look the same are all woodchucks.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe it's just like a blanket term we invented for all these very similar things.

Cristina: These giant rats.

Jack: Hey, there's a woodchuck. Which one? A beaver. Well, I saw a woodchuck earlier. Which one? A groundhog.

Cristina: Yes. But they're all just giant rats, Right?

Jack: They're all just giant rats.

Cristina: So God is a giant rat.

Jack: God is probably a giant rat. Either that of some sort of cockroach. But that's wrong. We destroyed that planet and there was like no God coming to talk to us.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: So it's probably a gopher. Groundhog. Not a gopher. Groundhog. It's probably that first groundhog that tells us the weather.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just God playing around with humans.

Cristina: What's his name? Phil something, maybe.

Jack: Phil. Yeah, it was some s*** like that. Whatever. It's like Chuck. Yeah, Real neutral, unimportant name.

Cristina: His name should have been Chuck. I don't know. Groundhog name.

Jack: Chuck, maybe his name as a human is Chuck. He can still morph. He just is a groundhog at the moment.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: We don't know. It's just he spends like.

Cristina: So we have to wait until Groundhog Day to find him?

Jack: Yeah, probably.

Cristina: How long do we have until then?

Jack: Well, we go where we would normally see him during Groundhog Day and find him there somewhere in a hole.

Cristina: Somewhere in a hole. We can't just see the event and Just kidnap him during that event.

Jack: We're not gonna wait for Groundhog Day. We'll go where we see him. During Groundhog Day.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And search for him now there.

Cristina: What if he. They don't actually have him living there. Like, they just put him there on Groundhog Day.

Jack: Nobody puts him there. He's God. He goes there. And presumably he lives in the area.

Cristina: Oh, okay. I assume that he lived in, like, a mansion or something. And then on the day they're like, okay, let's take you to where you should be. No.

Jack: There is a hole that is also the gate to heaven. Oh, I can't live in a mansion. If you can just take a hold. Heaven.

Cristina: Yeah. Should we explore that hole?

Jack: We're probably gonna find heaven through that hole. Yeah, we probably definitely gonna explore that hole.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, what happened to the hole in my backyard?

Jack: It's still there. It's not a hole. It's a portal.

Cristina: It's a portal. Yeah, but so is that hole is a portal. I guess so. Are they to the same place?

Jack: No.

Cristina: How do you know?

Jack: We know factually that your portal, the one that's in your backyard, leads to somewhere else entirely. And we sent Ish jumped in and out.

Cristina: But how does he know that he's looking at heaven?

Jack: Because when I'm sure we're gonna see heavenly things, not just more f****** normality.

Cristina: I'm pretty sure that's exactly what heaven looks. What does heaven look like?

Jack: Clouds and angels.

Cristina: That is not how it looks like. No way. There's mansions built by Jesus. Yes.

Jack: That wasn't on the other side of the portal in your backyard.

Cristina: What was there?

Jack: Nothing.

Cristina: Nothing.

Jack: There's nothing. I mean, there was, like, ground.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: You jump to the other side, and it's just, like, dirt and crap.

Cristina: Well, maybe if we went further, we would found the mansions.

Jack: We're gonna find the mansions through the gopher hole to the groundhog hole.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's where it is.

Cristina: So we're just gonna abandon the.

Jack: No, we're just gonna do different science with that.

Cristina: Okay. There's too many projects at once.

Jack: That's what we do. We organize stuff.

Cristina: When are we gonna get to the first one, though?

Jack: That's actively happening?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We sent subhumans through there.

Cristina: That was to explore.

Jack: Yeah. Just gonna be there with them while they're what? Just wait patiently doing nothing, I guess.

Cristina: I don't know. Okay.

Jack: No, get other. We have a bunch of people. We're just gonna do one project at a time. And everybody else just stay idle.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's crazy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Use our resources because we need.

Cristina: What if I don't know, I won't. Like, what could we learn from that?

Jack: We'll find out when information returns. Based on the info, we'll know what we could learn?

Cristina: I guess. Yes.

Jack: Like, without knowing what's there, we don't know what we could learn. That would just be us guessing and probably wrong. Once we get the information.

Cristina: Yeah. Mmm. We'll find out.

Jack: Yeah, we'll find out. It'll make sense when it comes through.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: See, that's what we use the subhumans for.

Cristina: So now we need that groundhog.

Jack: Yeah, we need to go get that groundhog to get these people bitten. Go send them to the doohickey over there in the great void. Attack those cat gods, maybe bring some back. Probably bring some back.

Cristina: Prison them some cat gods.

Jack: Yeah, we got cat people. They let us know where the cat gods are. Then we go send our jacked up subhumans out there to go capture us a God, bring them back. Maybe this is gonna go really poorly because if we capture Jehovah the groundhog and cat gods, but they're all trying to ultimately become the ultimate, ultimate, ultimate God by drinking blood of other gods. And we just brought multiple gods together.

Cristina: We should probably not put them in the same place together.

Jack: Nah, we shouldn't. We should definitely have them in different cells. So no matter what, Jehovah the groundhog needs to be kept in a cage that disables his powers on Earth. No, they're all gonna be in the same prison, but they're not gonna be together.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then the cat gods are also gonna be on Mars in a different thing, completely without technology and away from all their things. And then we can start our interrogation process and our control process and see if we can.

Cristina: If their technology looks like magic, how do we know if they have, like, what of, like, how do we know they didn't take in something magical with them?

Jack: Because it would look like magic, and we would stop them from having that thing. Whatever looks like magic. You can't have that.

Cristina: Okay, but if it doesn't look like magic, but then it turns out to.

Jack: Be magic, then there's nothing we could do because it's magic.

Cristina: That would be a huge problem.

Jack: Yeah, that would be a problem. No matter what. At that point, we can't do anything because it's magic.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It would have failed regardless, because magic, assuming it's just technology that looks like magic, we just keep them away from it and we're good.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: That's how things get done, man.

Cristina: Yes. We got so much to do. Yep.

Jack: That is the reality of the matter. So, yeah. Hopefully those projects work out. It's weird being back on Earth, being back in the studio after having been on Mars for a while.

Cristina: Mars was exciting.

Jack: It was interesting. It was interesting. We got to see a bunch of our hard work, a bunch of the s*** we captured and put up there.

Cristina: And those storms were amazing.

Jack: Yeah, there was some weird storms, man. We f***** kind of. Man, we f***** reality up a little.

Cristina: I don't know. It seems pretty normal.

Jack: There were no storms on Mars before. Then we took this f****** other s*** besides.

Cristina: Besides the storm.

Jack: And there's like a whole species that has been primarily extinct and scattered across the galaxy of cockroach people. On top of the fact that we have have a bunch of Reptilians totally captured and enslaved up there with a bunch of other creatures, the people on Earth.

Cristina: Nothing has changed.

Jack: Nothing has changed.

Cristina: Just a pandemic. That's it.

Jack: Which could arguably be a disguise. Not a disguise, but rather part of how we somehow reality. By first taking out Mars, Planet X coming, like, up its. Its orbit, and then having to steal a Mars in the first place to replace it. We changed the course of things.

Cristina: So we might have started Covid.

Jack: We might have to Covid. Oh, like, it's not. We can't prove it. So, like, nobody can blame us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But like, if we really thought about it, like, we really just. Like, what went wrong recently? Maybe blowing up a whole planet.

Cristina: Maybe. Maybe having zombies.

Jack: Maybe having a island with zombies.

Cristina: Like, maybe they got diseases.

Jack: Like, I sent a lot of people to the future and I used to the f****** time machine to like, look at the past a couple of times. Like we.

Cristina: Like you did.

Jack: There's. There's a high, high possibility, like a particularly hot knot that can't be proven. Nobody could look at me and be like, you did it.

Cristina: Yeah. But like, the cancer that our show gives, like.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. There's no real way to prove it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Without it being like, anecdotal. But like. Like probability suggests maybe we had something to do with it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There was no f****** giant pandemic that hopped out of a bat. And then for whatever reason, we did a bunch of s*** in the last couple of years. And then boom. Some impossible plague that continues to mutate and overpower. Most things happen to just by chance. Random chance has nothing to do with me. And. Yeah. So, you know, maybe. Maybe f****** with time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: F****** with this beast continuum or with.

Cristina: Creatures that can transform into anything. Pretty much shape shifting. There's a lot of shapeshifting and then.

Jack: F****** with the other realms.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, there's some s*** like we do a lot of s*** we probably shouldn't.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But it's our job.

Cristina: It is our job.

Jack: That's what matters. We're good at what we do. Who else is gonna go catch a wet judge? Who else is gonna go catch a win dingo? Who's gonna catch a werewolf? Huh? Who is gonna catch vampire? Who's gonna go catch a mermaid? Sirens. Huh? Huh? Nobody. Who's gonna have physical ghosts imprisoned? Huh? Huh?

Cristina: I think that was Chinese technology as well.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually we went to the. What was the name of that other place? A shadow realm.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: We're using shadow realm technology for a lot of this.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And ghosts are just often creatures from the other. But the point is we like. We figure it out and we do things nobody else will do. Who's gonna do it? And this bring full circle.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Full circle comes back to. Do we let these things go unknown forever or do we have the freedom to do our job without restrictions? This is civil war, man.

Cristina: Yeah. We're like. The people from Supernatural were like, we're stopping the apocalypse, but also we're starting the next apocalypse.

Jack: But we stopped that too.

Cristina: Yeah. As long as we stop it, it's alright, Right?

Jack: Yeah. Because there was already an apocalypse going to happen at the beginning that we stopped. But it's kinda like Final Destination. We survive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But then the universe wants to kill you anyways.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's like we didn't technically start the next thing, but no matter what we do, it's kind of like the time machine, right? That girl was gonna die no matter what.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he saved her, but then she died a different way. So we're out here just plugging holes on the bow for another hold of pop. But we're delaying the end.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's good. Yeah. For the last like six years.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You guys have avoided the end of the world. And it's coming every year.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But we stop it and we push it back.

Cristina: Yeah. When was the last end of the world it was gonna be in? I think May I told the story about some priests that said it was gonna be the end of the world. We stopped that from happening.

Jack: We stopped that from happening. This is just what we do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This is just what we do. And nobody can tell us we're not good at our jobs. Why did the Illuminati put us here? Because we get done. Why are we. Who tell the subhumans what to do? Anybody else could be given that privilege. One billion people.

Cristina: We're the ones. We're the ones, too.

Jack: I mean, it's other people, but we primarily.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because we get things done. That's who we are.

Cristina: That's why we get to run the zombie.

Jack: I mean, that's our own little side project, I guess. Probably bad idea, to be honest, but.

Cristina: No one's telling us to stop.

Jack: Exactly. Because we get s*** done.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we are allowed our fun zombie island.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Whatever. Like, who's gonna stop us? Because we get s*** done. So if the Illuminati doesn't question us, you don't get to question us. Because we get s*** done. Anyways, if you guys like this conversation, there's a bunch of other conversations like it that explain how important our job is. And if you're curious as to how we caught wet judges and wendingos and vampire and werewolves and mermaids and sirens and ghosts and creatures from the Shadow Realm and just all the things we've. Cockroach people and reptilians. All of that.

Cristina: So many episodes.

Jack: So many episodes. You get this. Creatures for days. We. We are the greatest monster hunters that have ever existed.

Cristina: We are Sam and Dean.

Jack: Simon got nothing on us.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: On Sam and Dean, I'll s*** in their cereal.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Anyways, you can find those episodes on the official website graythoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review.

Cristina: The show and let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is incredibly important. So be sure to tell people that we are the greatest monster hunters. And if they want to know about the greatest monster hunting and how s***** DC films are and how good Marvel films are, you direct them towards this show. Additionally, you can find me on the stereo app arguing with strangers about crap that makes no sense and then watching them freak out.

Cristina: Awesome. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks watching for. For listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: The burls that you're hearing say this. Those weren't your bro.

Jack: No, those are strangers.

Cristina: Those are complete strangers.

Jack: Yeah, strangers that look like white people looking at you. No, they were just talking to each other. Saying it over and over.

Cristina: I don't know. Okay. And the doctor told you that.

Jack: The doctor told me what? Yeah, the doctor said it. When I was born the day I was born.

Jack: That's facts.

Cristina: I don't think so. You don't remember that?

Jack: I remember I have perfect memory like that lady from the show House, because I'm obsessed with myself. It's not that I have perfect memory, is that I'm obsessed with everything that ever happened to me since the day I was born.

Cristina: That's kind of crazy. But how is that different from perfect memory? Does it seem the same? Is it different? Like you don't have perfect memory?

Jack: She won't remember any bit of data that doesn't influence her life specifically. Okay, so any event she's ever experienced, she can remember perfectly. Yeah, but just abstract data she's learned probably now because it's not relevant to her life. She's obsessed with herself, which is how House proved it. By catching first finding there was a problem, the second by kind of showing.

Cristina: Her like we could always finding the problem.

Jack: Yeah. He didn't care about. Care about solving no problems. He's like, I found it and this would be the fix. Now do you want me to fix it?

Cristina: Yeah. And then it ruins their life. And they're like, do I? Maybe I should die with this.

Jack: Like that lady who was like, I'm angry at you husband. I'm going, I wish you die. I'm. Pull the plug. I'm angry because he's mean. Pull the plug.

Cristina: Or he cheated or something.

Jack: Yeah, pull the plug. Because people be like that. And then she said.

Cristina: You heard that on House.

Jack: It happened in an episode of House.

Cristina: I think you're hearing things.

Jack: Nah, it happened in an episode of House.

Cristina: No, because I saw that episode. That did not happen.

Jack: It was in that episode. You missed it. No, you missed when she said you're hearing things. Nah, it was said multiple times throughout the episode. She said f*** it over and over.

Cristina: Was he the only one saying it?

Jack: No. Everybody on that episode said the episode's name was Kug Nug. F*** it. And they would random. It's like that pineapple from Psych.

Cristina: Yeah, it's like that.

Jack: That.

Cristina: No, no, it.

Jack: No, I'm going to make that a thing.

Cristina: Okay, Exactly. Cuz it's not a thing.

Jack: Whatever. It is a thing. I'm going to make it more of a thing.

Cristina: You don't even have a definition for it to become a thing.

Jack: It means d*** it. Or.

Cristina: Okay. That's what you're making it mean.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It means that.

Cristina: Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Colazzo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great thoughts, info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling: 148 Catholic Adrenochrome

Why are most of the listeners of the show from England? Why are most people from England Catholic? Why do Catholics love drinking blood? Are priests the primary blood drinkers? IS the blood they have been drinking from the children they spend private time with? The duo takes on some of the darker truths of Catholicism and tries to get to the bottom of how most of the JCP listeners are British. What is discovered in the process is something no one could have imagined!

Rambling: 148 Catholic Adrenochrome

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Cancer
  • Fight Club
  • Vampire Jesus
  • Broken English
  • Time Travel Seamlessness
  • Christian Wars
  • Catholic Caused Genocide
  • Drinking Blood
  • Immortality
  • Child Blood
  • Gods & Adrenochrome
  • How to Make a God
  • Groundhog Powers
  • Subhumans

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to inform somebody of this show at gunpoint if you can, and get them to listen by force. The good old American way. America.

Cristina: Not with guns.

Jack: Why not?

Cristina: Why? Why?

Jack: What if they don't have our largest. Well, actually, the biggest part of our audience is a British, not a Merrickin.

Cristina: You think they don't have guns?

Jack: I'm more concerned about, like, what the f*** is wrong with people listening to this? I was thinking about this the other day. Like, who listens to us?

Cristina: Who listens to us?

Jack: Like, British people.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: Yes. The vast majority of our listeners are.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: It's like, half is British and then like. Like a quarter is eastern American. Like the east coast and then scattered throughout. It's like, what the f*** happened in f****** England?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Why are you listening to us?

Cristina: We're giving them a slice of life of America.

Jack: Yeah. Wow. Are we the example of what American life is to these?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it's like. No, it's way more f***** than what we do.

Cristina: We talk about.

Jack: Yeah. Americans don't think this hard. Megas. Don't think America. It's about, you know, I, like, I. I'm not gonna wear a mask because I need a haircut. That's America summed up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I'm not gonna wear a mask because I need a haircut logic. So I don't know what the f*** happened. They're like the. Now we're a bad example of what being American is. I mean, I guess the no given aspect.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They're not like, I don't know, they were emotionally repressed.

Cristina: Is that true?

Jack: I mean, it's a joke that they tell themselves about themselves.

Cristina: It's a stereotype.

Jack: It's a stereotype, but one they joke about. About being emotionally repressed, and we help them with that.

Cristina: How? I don't know where. They're therapists.

Jack: We all.

Cristina: We.

Jack: We're not helping them be more emotionally repressed. We're helping them be less emotional.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They live vicariously through us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But we're not emotional. We might be feeding the problem.

Cristina: Okay, well, you're helping them by peer pressuring them in the beginning of the.

Jack: Episode to do something violent, social. Something social. Got you. Yes, yes. Go interact. Got you, got you, got. And then I recon reaffirm it at the end of the show.

Cristina: Exactly. So there's something.

Jack: Because, like, if we think about it, Right. We use the fact that when we look at the. The viewer list or whatever, it's the viewer. They're watching us. Cameras are on the walls, man. No, but the. The vast majority of the listeners are in England. Right. And so we think about that, and we're like. We're basically telling a bunch of British people to go do violent acts primarily to get people to come listen to the show. It's a show about getting you to listen to the show. It's become meta.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Every episode, as of late, Maybe the last 15, 20 episodes, are about telling the listener how to get somebody to listen to this show and then kind of describing the circumstance.

Cristina: Yes. We actually go through the adventure of a listener.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Who's trying to convince other people to listen to the show.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. And like, semantically, we get sometimes even metaphysical, just trying the. To elaborate in depth on how to listen to the show.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's pretty meta. It's a show about listening to the show.

Cristina: Yes. If you need help with that. I don't know.

Jack: Why.

Cristina: Why would we go that far?

Jack: Because they need to get somebody else to listen to the show. For what? So that we can tell that next person how to get someone else to listen to the show. It's a sort of infinite loop.

Cristina: Yes. Although I guess we're a lot like that. The tape from that horror movie where you have to watch it before. You have to get someone else to watch it before seven days or you die.

Jack: Yeah. Except in this case, you have to get somebody to listen before the cancer kills you. Otherwise your life was in vain.

Cristina: Yep. That's pretty much something, I guess.

Jack: Pretty much. Yeah. You got, like, 10 years. It's fine.

Cristina: Yeah, it's like.

Jack: It's way better than seven days. Hey, man, you got more than seven days. Like, you got cancer. Cancer is not our fault. We're not really sure what's happening there.

Cristina: I think it's from those inexpensive. What is it? Wasn't there a tape thing that you're sending people?

Jack: Oh, my.

Cristina: It was Spy Club.

Jack: You think the vcr.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: With the cassette tape.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That has the show recorded on it, by the way. It's a vcr. And the show is not on camera. So you're just getting like.

Cristina: But it looks like Fight Club where it is Fight Club.

Jack: Well, it's. They get Fight Club every time as well.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So they get Fight Club, and they get the latest episode of the show, but they only get the VCR the first time.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: After they subscribe.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So I guess the episode is audio recorded over Fight Club, so you're technically getting a Fight Club the movie every time with Fight Club audio.

Cristina: Because I feel like we keep sending them Fight Club. Like, we don't stop sending them.

Jack: No, no, no. They get Fight Club every time. So you're saying that the Fight Club episodes they're getting. I mean, the Fight Club additional Fight Club movies are getting. Are the show recorded over the Fight Club. Fight Club. So it's still Fight Club the movie visuals.

Cristina: Or it might just be like, Fight Club. You first have to watch the whole movie of Fight Club, and then at the credit scene, you get to listen to our podcast.

Jack: There's an hour of credits.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know how long the credits are. Maybe it's just black. And then you hear our podcast.

Jack: Well, I'm thinking you just listen to the podcast over the visuals of Fight Club. So Fight Club the movie is playing as you're watching. Watching as you're watching, and you're hearing us over it.

Cristina: Whether we can do that on YouTube. Just figure out how to put the fight club movie 1.

Jack: To any of our British listeners who've never seen Fight Club, begin your dystopian future by watching Fight Club.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then proceed to dub one of our episodes over the audio of Fight Club so that it's Fight Club with your favorite episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then tell us where we could go watch that, because it'll be great.

Cristina: Well, beside. Well, we are sending them these things, but I'm just wondering if that's where the cancer is coming from.

Jack: They're getting the cancer from the cassette?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: No, they get the cancer from listening to us.

Cristina: But how? That's the question. Like, what is happening? It's not like 5G or something?

Jack: No, no, no. Or maybe it is because. Because the idea is something about my. And your voice. It's our voices through the microphones coming out of their speaker or whatever causes them to get cancer.

Cristina: But it's our voices.

Jack: It's our voices. Some combination of our. It might be because we're clones, I don't know.

Cristina: But wasn't. Huh? Was it happening when we were alive?

Jack: No, maybe not. No. I don't I doubt it. I think this. I think, according to the lore of just conversation, it happened after the original died.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But not entirely sure, but somebody could let us know.

Cristina: But. Okay, so if that's the case, then we're doing it somehow. It's coming from us.

Jack: Our voices, I'm assuming. Maybe that's my. That's my theory. They're getting the cancer from our voices coming through the speaker.

Cristina: But then Dave is a clone too, right?

Jack: Yes. So he probably. Yeah, yeah. He's passing cancer everywhere. If that's the case.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: He's just giving everybody cancer.

Cristina: Are you gonna let him know that?

Jack: He probably knows.

Cristina: How do you find out. How do you even find out your listeners have cancer? Is that in the data that.

Jack: Yes, exactly. That's exactly how I found out. The same way I found out about.

Cristina: How much listeners are from English.

Jack: Yes. It tells us. For whatever reason, because Facebook, we recently established that Facebook gives us everybody's data all the time. And so I have everybody's medical records, and then I cross reference the medical records with our listener records, and then I get the listeners, and they all have cancer.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Boom.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You see? Logic. It makes sense. That's how we know. I totally. Yes.

Cristina: We got it through Facebook.

Jack: Through Facebook and Google.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They work together. It's all the same s***. There's. If we could go high up enough. There's no difference between those two things. There's some other, like, dude telling them what to do. The same guy. Nevertheless, they both respond to the same dude, who's just some guy in, like, a shady robe. Looks like f****** the dark Sith Lord or some s***. You know, dark room surrounded by candles and a bunch of f******.

Cristina: Wearing a mask.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Even though everyone knows who he is.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: When you're up there, you're like. You're. You know who he is.

Jack: Yeah. He wears it just because it's cool or whatever. It's edgy. In a freaking, like, chamber somewhere underground or at the top of a crazy tall tower and a floating island or some s*** where there's f******. He's surrounded in this chamber by, like, naked ladies. No, not naked ladies. Adrenochrome. It's a river of, like, adrenochrome around him. Because he's also really f****** old. And I guess he's been running society for, like, most of time or some. Just keeps taking adrenochrome. He's the original. Like, the original virgin sacrifice was to him or whatever the. Well, to whoever the pretended to be Jesus that's that guy.

Cristina: He's that guy.

Jack: He's like, I got religion to take over and I got adrenochrome. Cuz people sacrificed all the way from back then when they didn't know that I was going to pretend to be Jesus. And he gave me a goat. And then he killed his brother cuz his brother had like a ball of lettuce or some s***.

Cristina: Jesus was about sharing his blood, not about taking your blood.

Jack: But that's who. Those are the leaders. Now, like Mark Zuckerfucker has been around an eternity as well. Because he drank Jesus blood and became a vampire, just like Jesus.

Cristina: Okay, wait, he drank vampire blood?

Jack: Jesus is a vampire? He's the first vampire.

Cristina: He's the first vampire.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Something was keeping him alive for very long.

Cristina: Yes. Adrenochrome.

Jack: Probably Adrenochrome. And then there was a tipping point where he became super duper mega awesome.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And now his blood is the strongest, most potent adrenochrome. And he can make other hymns. Not really him, but you know, he can make other people be immortal and s***. By giving them the blood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then those people, the twelve apostles of which one is whoever the f***, the guy who runs Google and I don't know why that's not like information. We know more offhand, but we all know Zucker F*****.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And Bezos.

Cristina: Maybe his name is as interesting.

Jack: Maybe. Probably. Like if I heard it, I thought.

Cristina: They both have Z's in their names.

Jack: Right? And like the people who run the world in every aspect. Right. So like the Queen is also for British listeners making references they know, you know, we're on the pulse.

Cristina: What's her name? Elizabeth.

Jack: Elizabeth, yeah.

Cristina: Oh, there's a Z. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Okay.

Jack: How many names can we think of with a Z?

Cristina: Not many. Not many.

Jack: Zoe, Elizabeth, Zach.

Cristina: How many of those do you know?

Jack: Xena. No, that's a X.

Cristina: That's an X.

Jack: Why does X like a Z sometimes? And other times it sounds like a. Why is xylophone not with a Z?

Cristina: I know, the rules change. I don't know. It sounds like a Z in front of things. Sounds like X behind things. No.

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: I don't know. Why is it a Z at the. Just f****** replace it with a Z. I don't know what happened to English, man. We should all just learn Korean. It's way more straightforward.

Cristina: Because that's just about sound. Yeah.

Jack: So much more so in such an intelligent, well thought out language. Not like f****** English. That just had random s*** picked up from random f****** areas. And then the worst part is it somehow became the most popular language. So all the other languages are slowly f****** up by borrowing words from English and just turning their languages into s*** because our words didn't make sense to begin with.

Cristina: Our words never made sense.

Jack: Nope.

Cristina: Ugh. And then the language we borrowed, French, like, none of that makes sense. That's alien language.

Jack: How are we like, 60% Latin with Germanic characters using primarily, like, out of that, 60% Latin, like, 40% is French. What the f***?

Cristina: I know.

Jack: The h*** is going on?

Cristina: I don't know. These are definitely not pronouncing it the way they would.

Jack: H*** no. We're already making weird sounds. The problem is a bunch of people from England came to the United States, stole a bunch of French words and pronounced it with latent transferred, morphed, and edited American accent. Accent, which is a derivative of British English. And it's like, what?

Cristina: What?

Jack: Like what?

Cristina: Languages? Accents, though.

Jack: Accents for days.

Cristina: There's too many.

Jack: It's all the English fault.

Cristina: It's all the English fault.

Jack: Yeah. They came over here. You. It's the fault of most of our listeners. They came to the US and they were like, I'm gonna say a hard R from now on. It's like, why? And then I'm gonna take a bunch of French words and throw it in the pot. And then when people from the America where we were frying English go back to England, we're gonna steal American words and just stir the pot and just mix it up a little more and it's more confusing.

Cristina: Yes. Why would you do that?

Jack: I don't know. We do what we do to you guys planning? I mean, I guess you are us, but what like, what you do? Why do you do this to the rest of the world? Trying to learn English.

Cristina: We should stop trying to learn English.

Jack: English is based on Latin, right? Well, no, Latin is some Latin, Germanic, whatever. German.

Cristina: Let's go back to Latin.

Jack: Back to Latin.

Cristina: That's too complicated.

Jack: Is it, though?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Everything else came from that. I don't know. That's a deadass language.

Cristina: Exactly. Like, whatever they're saying is Latin now is probably not Latin.

Jack: Like, this isn't even English anymore.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What was English, and what is now is some other s***.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yeah.

Jack: We're still calling it English because we haven't, like, thought of a new name.

Cristina: No.

Jack: But it's kind of not English.

Cristina: We can never tell when the changing point is anyway of when does it stop sounding Old.

Jack: Exactly, exactly. It just needs to be a point that somebody has, like a weird revelation and they're like, what the f***? If I play English from then it's different.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No, we can't call it old Old English. This must be something different. From now on, I must say, it's this.

Cristina: We'll just continue saying it's English and.

Jack: Just rename the past. S***.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Well, that's old English. Well, no, that's old Old English. Well, that's old, Old Old English.

Cristina: We should just stick to. It's all English.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense. Because if you were to grab somebody speaking English from like the 1700s, you'd be like, what the f*** are you saying?

Cristina: That is true.

Jack: But not English. But that was English.

Cristina: That was Exactly. And it didn't just go from that to this. It slowly morphed into this.

Jack: So it naturally shaped. So we need to make.

Cristina: So it's still English.

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: It's like the baby and an old man.

Jack: Like they're not the same, but they are.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Fair, fair. Like gradually. He wasn't just suddenly an old man.

Cristina: Yeah. It's a weird transformation, man.

Jack: It's weird how everything is gradual, though. Yes, that's strange. The arrow of time is weird because it's not like one panel, then the next, it's like. No, it's seamless.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's no this and that. It's just we're going through it gradually.

Cristina: Unless you had a time machine.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And then you would see.

Jack: No, here's interesting point you'd make, but from your point of view, it's still seamless.

Cristina: It still seems.

Jack: Yes. A time machine couldn't work if you had a cut to black in the middle because you couldn't control where you're going. So it would work like this. Think of the time machine, right? The guy walks into the time machine. If he had a watch inside that time machine and looked at it, it's still moving at normal pace on his wrist. It's outside the time machine that everything is moving rapidly.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Not only that, from inside the time machine, you're just watching it move at rapid pace. It's not, I'm here, I'm there. It's in order or reverse order, but it's still seamless. There's no, well, here's the black part, and now here's where the rest of it continues. That never happens ever at all. There's never experience of nothingness. It never happened. There's no between the panels. So Even with a time machine, it's still now. It's just now back then.

Cristina: It's now back then.

Jack: Yes. It's still his now. He got. He walked. Okay, this is a ten minute event.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's walking in. It takes him two minutes to walk from his house to the time machine in his way far backyard. And he gets into the time machine. Two minutes pass by. Now he's in that time machine for, let's say, six minutes. Right? He's in that time machine for six minutes. So he walks the time machine, two minutes go by. He got in the time machine. Now he didn't just reality didn't cut out. Now he hits some buttons within this time, you know, and starts slowly speeding up. And time starts going backwards faster and faster and faster and faster. But he sees it gradually speed up. He can witness the experiences happening in reverse order or whatever. And then as he's getting there, starts slowing down, slowing down, slowing down. And then he turns off the machine. And then he walks out of the machine. And it takes him two minutes to get to his house. A week ago. Right. From his point of view, that is still now, even if, time wise, it was a week ago. He didn't blink back to a week ago. He's still aging forward and perceiving time forward as he's moving backward. So there's no cut in seamlessness to him. He has to traverse space even if time is in reverse.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And there's no cut in space perception.

Cristina: So what is he seeing when he's in the machine?

Jack: He's just seeing the inside of the machine.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Which is still moving at normal pace. Even if he had a watch on his arm and looked at the time, it's moving at normal pace. And when he got out, if he doesn't get out exactly the same minute from a week ago, the clock is gonna be not in sync. Because the clock wasn't moving backwards on his. The watch isn't moving backwards on his wrist.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So it's all seamless. Even his bubble of time, while everything around him is changing, is seamless. As he's looking out and seeing a change, and as he's inside, there's no I have left space.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then things change. But that's also why time travel would be impossible. Because space and time are one thing. It's space time. So you could not exit time to move space.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: And you could not exit space to move time.

Cristina: What could do something like that?

Jack: Nothing. They're the same thing.

Cristina: You have to be outside of space and time already.

Jack: Yeah. You have to be outside both or you're in both at the same time. Because you can't be out of place without being there at a time. It's impossible. And you can't be at a time without being there at a place.

Cristina: Can't really travel.

Jack: It's impossible. Time travel is impossible minus our time machine.

Cristina: Besides our time machine.

Jack: Besides our time machine. But our time machine does not. Our time machine breaks seamlessness.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Because it's more like a wormhole, I'm assuming.

Cristina: How does the wormhole break anything?

Jack: Because when we get into the time machine, there's no. Everything is moving in reverse. We hit a button and boof, we're there. It just moves us to that space and time. It does not remove us from space.

Cristina: We're still traveling from space and time, though.

Jack: I don't know. That doesn't make sense. Right, because that's complicated. If you think of how space time is affected. Could. It's. It would be impossible in any aspect, right?

Cristina: Yeah. Like if we're gonna go forward, that means. I don't know. I don't know. Because it would be like the time machine. We wouldn't really be moving. We'd be where we are.

Jack: Well, no, he's moving in the time machine. This. The problem with it is that somehow, and this doesn't make any sense, he did manage to stop space, but move time. But in reality that wouldn't work.

Cristina: No, no, no.

Jack: Because if the machine is on Earth moving with Earth's rotation because he got out at the same spot that he got in, then the machine must be affected by time itself because it's moving with the planet. The planet's rotation can affect.

Cristina: If we could have a machine that's also a spaceship, then can it be a space time machine?

Jack: What about the space inside of the machine? You're. You'd have to. You'd have to witness nothing in that time. You have to cut to black because you couldn't physically be anywhere because you left time. And if you're affected by time. Well, if you're affected by space, you're affected by time problem.

Cristina: So you're gonna age. No, but. Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: Although the most practical way would be a spaceship because what doesn't happen in the time machine, which is giant f****** loophole, is the planet is still moving.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It would just not be there. And it's moving so fast. In a galaxy that's moving well in a star system that's moving so fast in A galaxy that's moving so fast.

Cristina: It doesn't matter because. Yeah, you would still age no matter what, though. Like, if you were to travel a hundred years in the future, you'll be 100 years older. Like, there's no separating you from space and time.

Jack: Well, that's what the argument. Right. Like the argument would be, somehow you removed yourself from space and time. But what the f*** does that mean? Yeah, because if you moved space. Well, you move the time of space forward. Where are you?

Cristina: Yes, where are you?

Jack: Where are you?

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: It's weird. You shouldn't be able to see it happening, because that means you're there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he could. He could see it happening.

Cristina: So that means he's aging. But he's what stops him from aging.

Jack: Yeah, well, he is aging, but he's aging at normal rate.

Cristina: What if he was a vampire?

Jack: No, no, no. He's aging at normal rate. He's in the ship, aging at a normal pace. However long, every second is a second long. In a normal second time span, even if outside the second time is moving faster in the machine, somehow it's not. So he isolated a pocket of time.

Cristina: And space in the machine.

Jack: In the machine. But then where the f*** is a machine? And why didn't you. Like, when the machine stopped, why didn't you immediately suffocate? Because you're not even in the galaxy anymore.

Cristina: Yeah, I don't. Yes.

Jack: If the machine is moving with the planet, and the planet is moving with the star, and the star is moving with the galaxy, and space is stretching all around it, you are so far from the next thing.

Cristina: What if the machine is attached to the Earth, though? Does that not change anything?

Jack: Well, then the machine is in space, which means it's also in time. So you should be aging with it.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Which means you're just moving normal speed because you're feeling. You're just sitting there watching a normal day go by, huh? Because you're part of time space.

Cristina: No, that doesn't work.

Jack: Yeah, it doesn't. I don't know how our time machine works. It does. I don't know.

Cristina: How does.

Jack: I could not tell you how we're breaking the laws of reality. Anyways, that guy who runs everything.

Cristina: Which guy were we talking about?

Jack: The guy who runs Facebook.

Cristina: And above that, right?

Jack: Yeah. He's the dude above all that. He also runs a queen and he's in a chamber filled with adrenochrome. He's also Jesus. Same guy.

Cristina: Okay. Vampire Jesus.

Jack: Vampire Jesus. Which there's an episode about, I'm pretty sure about Vampire Jesus.

Cristina: Okay, so what about vampire Jesus?

Jack: Well, he runs the world. I'm not sure what my point was, but yeah, he runs the world. We know he's the guy above all of it.

Cristina: Where.

Jack: Because the argument was that we got the cancer information from Facebook that is cross referenced with Google somehow and the whatever data, because that's Google is really where we're getting the data of who the listeners are. And then Facebook is where we're getting the data of who has cancer because we get everybody's records because Facebook just readily sells it to us.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then we cross reference those things and we find out that our listeners have cancer. And then all of that is allowed because the guy above them both who is also the same dude who runs the world and gives the queen her immortality is Jesus the vampire. Because you know, Trina, Chrome and people.

Cristina: Don'T know this, but Jesus has a Z in his name.

Jack: Yes, he does. Yes, he does.

Cristina: One of those S's aren't isn't an.

Jack: S and there's no S's in his name. It's J U B E Z. No, it's J E, B U Z.

Cristina: J E B U Z U Z. Jebus Jeebus.

Jack: Okay, Jeebus Christ. So the text got it wrong.

Cristina: Alright.

Jack: It's a messed up in translation.

Cristina: Does the text even say that? The text doesn't say that.

Jack: What, his name?

Cristina: Yeah, Jesus is mentioned as Jesus. I thought someone told us that his name was Michael or something.

Jack: No, it's Emmanuel. And the guy named Jesus and the guy named Emmanuel are two different people.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But somehow the guy named Jesus managed to successfully convince everybody who already knew biblically his name was gonna be Emmanuel. He's like, that guy's me. And then everybody was like, oh yeah, right, right, right. Totally.

Cristina: Oh. So the prophecies said Emmanuel would be the next Messiah. Messiah. Yeah.

Jack: And then this Jesus guy came and he said, nah, it's me.

Cristina: Oh. And that worked.

Jack: And that worked.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And he was. Emmanuel was only mentioned once.

Cristina: Okay. So it's very forgettable.

Jack: It's very forgettable. And then this other guy's like, no, I'm that guy. And they're like, oh s***, he's that guy. He said it.

Cristina: Guy was like, hey, but didn't they. Don't we know his name? And that's not his name.

Jack: I don't know how this happened, man. My bet is somehow the people who were conspiring to create Christianity around that time decided if we say it enough.

Cristina: People will believe it.

Jack: Yeah. And if we find all the text that has his name and f****** burn it and just say it's Jesus now.

Cristina: That probably worked.

Jack: It probably worked. We know. Come on. Catholics, Christians, all the versions of Christianity early. But then Catholics got real serious about the massacre and murder and, like, taking lives and burning people and f****** crucifixions and all this crazy s*** that, like, created it in the first place. And then they hypocritically started doing it as well. So. Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Murdering people.

Jack: Murdering people. The amount of genocide and murder that happened because Catholicism, which is a man.

Cristina: It's weird because that's not even, like, the main religion.

Jack: The main f******, like, a branch of some s***. And it became, like, the most powerful.

Cristina: Part of it because it's the darkest one.

Jack: Yeah, man. I know we've talked about this before, but it's just. It just trips me out that there's a religion that's like, we're gonna pretend to eat flesh and drink blood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And drink the blood of our, like, Lord.

Cristina: Yeah, that's.

Jack: And we call him our Lord. He's our Lord. And we're gonna pretend to drink that blood because he told us to eat my flesh and drink my blood.

Cristina: That's why we kill for him.

Jack: Yo. And a lot of people have died for him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Crazy. And I'm like, no, it's perfectly fine.

Cristina: Yeah, we've gone to other countries and saying we're gonna convert them. And those people weren't converted.

Jack: No, they were murdered. And then we settled there, and we're like, yeah, yeah, we converted. We went. Failed to convert them, killed them, inhabited the area in which we murdered and said they were converted because now that land has our religion.

Cristina: Exactly. That's how it works.

Jack: Ah, conversion.

Cristina: Yeah, that's exactly kind way to say we murdered.

Jack: Yeah, it really is. We converted that area. And then you go there and it's like, wow, they're all white. Yeah, all of them. Not one. Like, they went to some random Middle Eastern country. The only Middle Eastern country that's predominantly Christian, and you go to that one. Middle Eastern country, white.

Cristina: What Middle Eastern country is that?

Jack: I don't know. It's a theoretical country.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And it's just white.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Peace. That happened here, though.

Jack: Yeah. All natives. We were gonna talk them out of Native American spiritualism and teach them Christianity. Meanwhile, they're all white. They're just white. They turned white. If you. If you partake in Catholicism, your skin slow. The more Catholic you are, the Whiter your skin gets.

Cristina: Yes. Like the picture of Jesus.

Jack: Yes. Jesus was black a long time ago, but he got more and more Catholic and slowly got whiter and wider and his hair just got straighter over time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's amazing.

Cristina: Yeah. That's all religion does. Or I guess Catholic, Catholics.

Jack: Other parts of Christianity are a little more welcoming, but not Catholics. You almost have to be white.

Cristina: Yeah. That's how. That's the conversion story.

Jack: Yeah, that's how it happens, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's all thanks to vampire Jesus.

Cristina: Yes. I keep thinking, well, why did we get to vampire Jesus in the first place? I forgot.

Jack: Because Facebook. Because of Facebook and Google.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Who run by the same guy. And cancer. Yes. Which in theory, he could just cure, I'm assuming. If he's who you say he is.

Cristina: Probably.

Jack: But he can't. No, he's just a vampire.

Cristina: He's just a vampire.

Jack: He can't cure cancer.

Cristina: Well, if adrenochrome makes you smarter, maybe you could.

Jack: Adrenochrome cures cancer?

Cristina: Yeah, it could, man.

Jack: His blood probably cures cancer, doesn't it?

Cristina: Yeah. We need some of his blood.

Jack: Is he who runs Illuminati? Is that our boss?

Cristina: Probably. I don't know. If we end up dead and we get replaced.

Jack: You know what? That's crazy. Yeah. And think about that.

Cristina: But I don't think anyone would notice. I mean, we're clones now. Like, if that happens, we'll be clones. So we wouldn't even know.

Jack: Yeah. That's also weird. But me and Yu's light would be turned out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like the next clones here. Yeah. The listener wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It's seamless. From one point to the them, at least.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The next episode is by these people. But then again, we were fully aware that we were replacing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the next clones would just flat out tell them that.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess.

Jack: Like, hey, we're the replacement. Because it turned out. It turned out vampire Jesus did run the Illuminati.

Cristina: He didn't like what we said. I thought. You're not saying anything bad, so I'm sure he's fine.

Jack: Yeah, we're not saying anything bad. We're saying he could cure cancer.

Cristina: Yes. Like, we're promoting him.

Jack: We're promoting Jesus blood. You should drink more Jesus blood. You should all convert to Catholicism.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Touch all the children and drink Jesus blood.

Cristina: And that's how you live forever.

Jack: That's how you live forever, man. You know what's. Let's be real.

Cristina: That's How? The priests. The priests were trying to live forever.

Jack: Priests were trying to live forever. They were.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They were.

Jack: But like, these old people who do seem to live forever and are filthy rich and kind of run the world, are always f****** the kids. Yeah, man. Something about f****** kids makes you immortal. I don't know what. I know what part. I don't want to find out.

Cristina: I know.

Jack: But I know that something about f****** a kid makes you immortal. Because everybody who's chasing immortality or has somehow achieved it has f***** a child and drank Jesus blood. They're all Catholic and they all f*** kids. That's the two whammies that equal immortality. The blood part, we get it. Adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes, adrenochrome.

Jack: But also, somehow f****** a kid adds to your immortality. Or. Or you drink adrenochrome, you don't age more. But if you drink adrenochrome and then f*** a kid, you steal their youth.

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: Or.

Cristina: Or I was thinking that the blood gets you, like, mate, turns you into a predator, so.

Jack: Well, no, this is. Wow. Actually, that could totally be the case. But different. Different take. Maybe. Maybe.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They're not f****** the kids. Maybe that's the f****** cover story. Because it's better than telling people we're getting the adrenal chrome from the kid's body and that's what gives us the youth.

Cristina: Yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah. I guess that would be worse if we found out they were.

Jack: Yeah, but like, they're drinking children blood, man. I'm just f****** kid, you know, send me to jail.

Cristina: No, but they end up dying if that's the truth too. Like, either way, they're f*** we.

Jack: What priest went to jail? What was his name? Right. So you could say that. And somehow the church is like, no, he was innocent. But if you say I drank. I killed and drank a kid's blood, or I was just slowly, like, siphoning.

Cristina: Blood off of a church's protection.

Jack: Yeah. Because the jer. The church is like, yes, kid f******. Okay, but kid blood drinking, bad, but not. Not really. But society will look further down on kid blood drinking than they would kid f******. So, like, the lesser of two evils. Let's say we're f****** the kids, not drinking the kids blood. And then we'll just deny it anyways.

Cristina: That's so horrible. It's all horrible. I guess that's better. I don't know. It's so, so bad. It's bad.

Jack: Yeah. And it's weird that this is where we landed, because one of the most Catholic countries in the world is England.

Cristina: No way.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Catholic.

Jack: Catholic.

Cristina: Are you positive?

Jack: Yes. England runs on Catholicism.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yep. There is heavy, heavy tradition there.

Cristina: How high? Maybe they know about this. That's why they're listening. They're like, you guys are on to.

Jack: Yeah, we're always hitting the. We're hitting it on the nose and they're like, yeah, s***'s always going on here. I got a kid in my basement right now. I've been siphoning some blood off of him for years.

Cristina: Please don't tell me about it.

Jack: He's like a teenager now. Yeah. Look, go in the comments below, Leave us a five star rating and tell us about the kids you got in your basement siphoning their blood on itunes.

Cristina: Do it on itunes.

Jack: On itunes. Yes.

Cristina: I feel like we. That's the only place we'll remember to check.

Jack: And Spotify.

Cristina: Would we check on Spotify? Can you check the comments on Spotify?

Jack: Dude, I have no idea how Spotify works.

Cristina: Maybe just do it on itunes because I don't know if we'd look on Spotify.

Jack: Who cares? Do it on both.

Cristina: Do it on both. Okay.

Jack: Leave us the same comment on both platforms.

Cristina: Okay, we'll try to look at both.

Jack: Yeah, well, we don't have to see it on both. If they leave it on Apple, we can just assume it's also on Spotify.

Cristina: Okay. Leave it for everyone else and then.

Jack: We'Ll make an episode where we read your comments about the children you have in your basement that you slowly siphon blood out of to be an immortal.

Cristina: Yep. Give us some stars with that too.

Jack: Yes. Five stars if you have a kid in your basement. But if you don't have a kid in your basement, you have to only give us five stars.

Cristina: Yes. And don't say anything.

Jack: Don't say anything. Don't leave a. No, I'll leave a review. Just say good. Good with a thumbs up emoji. Just say good with a thumbs up emoji.

Cristina: Yeah, we don't have children.

Jack: Yeah, well, they can't comment on an episode. I think. I think it's like a general kind of thing.

Cristina: But we would know, though, that they listened to this episode.

Jack: Yeah. Oh, s***. Should we choose an emoji per episode? Kind of like Sean Murray does for every no Man's sky dlc.

Cristina: Yeah. Ok. Thumbs up is this episode.

Jack: Yeah, Thumbs up is.

Cristina: Or the comment that you have children.

Jack: Yeah. Or. Or if you don't want to get caught, because I'm sure, like FBI is watching since f****** Apple doesn't give them their information. They're just watching comments and s***. You imagine some FBI agents job to scroll to comment to see where the pitas are, whatever. Yeah, so like if you don't want to get busted, they don't need to know. You don't have to be specific. Still leave us a five star rate.

Cristina: Say adrenochrome.

Jack: No, with the review. Just put the picture, the emoji of a kid.

Cristina: Oh my gosh.

Jack: Yeah, put a child emoji. Well, no, they're not f****** the kid. They're drinking their blood while trapping.

Cristina: Yes. And if you're not that person, just.

Jack: What was it do thumbs up.

Cristina: Thumbs up.

Jack: Thumbs up means you got no kids that you're siphoning blood off of. Kid emoji means you got a kid somewhere that you're siphoning blood off of for immortality sake.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean, look, let's be real. Somebody tells you, somebody tells you you can be immortal, you will never age, but you have to siphon blood off of a kid and drink it at least once a week. I'd rather die.

Cristina: I want to be like a real, like the vampire they show on TV where you can pick the age of your victim so it doesn't have to be a child.

Jack: So you can be like a teenager. Well, no, maybe people just. Maybe the age difference is what? Like you equal out at. Right. So you could pick age based on where you stand. Right. So if you're 30 and you pick like a 10 year old, then you land about 20. Right. But if you're at 30 and you pick a 20 year old, you land at about 25 of how you look and whatever, that's how like old you.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Recover to or whatever.

Cristina: Like what if you're an 80 or.

Jack: 80 year old, you get a 20 year old. Well, you got to hit the middle mark. Yeah. Do 80 minus 20 is 60 and then the middle point between 60 and 20 is 40. So you'd be about 40 if you're 80. That's pretty good.

Cristina: That's why they're sticking to you very young kids though. Because if you're 80 and you pick 10, how old are you?

Jack: Well then you only subtract 10. Oh wait, that doesn't work because you'd be older. Right.

Cristina: Well, okay, I was gonna see you.

Jack: Subtract 10 and then you find the middle point of that. But that doesn't work.

Cristina: No, no, no, no. He's the younger. You pick the younger. I guess.

Jack: Yeah, it should just be the middle point regardless of Subtraction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the middle point of. No. Cuz. Yeah. I guess the older the first the kid is, the farther up the equal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Turns out to be. So. Yeah. The middle point between 10 and 80 would be 40.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Would that be 40? 50, like 45.

Cristina: Okay, maybe.

Jack: Yeah, I guess like 45 or some s*** like that. No, that would be the middle of 90. Right. Because you break, oh, I don't know, whatever, some, whatever. Throw some s*** at the middle. That's where you land.

Cristina: You're half, you're half your age.

Jack: Yeah. So you got to try to get adrenal. You got to try to start siphoning off of a kid pretty young in order to maintain that youngness you don't. Like. If you're 20 and you're feeding off of another 20 year old, you just stay 20.

Cristina: Which is fine because. Wait, what? Because the adrenochrome isn't just for staying young.

Jack: Yeah. It's for immortality.

Cristina: But don't you get powers and stuff?

Jack: Yeah, all that stuff comes along with it.

Cristina: Yeah. Like I want for that you got.

Jack: To keep drinking as a problem. So you need to. After you dry this one out. Yeah. Catch another 20 year old.

Cristina: Oh yeah. Man, being a vampire sucks.

Jack: Being a vampire kind of blows. Yeah. But then man, that's crazy. So there's real vampires.

Cristina: Yeah, but it's work.

Jack: It's. I mean if you're powerful and fast and hyper intelligent. Because the adrenochrome, it's like easy show up in a bus.

Cristina: Most of them are super rich, so they have people go scout. Kidnapping people.

Jack: They probably have like a clone thing of their own. They just clone the same people over and over from the original. Just drink their blood. People who can't afford that are the ones who are out there eating like the poor vampires. I don't have crazy guap laying around. I gotta go siphon blood directly. Break into somebody's house.

Cristina: So those are the ones that are gonna comment on us?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Unless you think some of those wealthy. I mean people with the coffee.

Jack: Maybe. Maybe there's some like filthy rich.

Cristina: Filthy rich. What is it? Child emoji and they.

Jack: And a dot and like dollar bills or the dollar sign. Kids and. But if it's not a kid, man. But the problem is it's always kids. That's really the problem. Right. It's always kids. Rarely is there like what we found a bunch of grown adults being held hostage in somebody's basement. So I was like a kid went missing like 15 years ago. We found them now as an adult in a f****** basement or some s***. Yeah, they f****** snatching up children.

Cristina: Well, shouldn't. Why?

Jack: Like, because it makes them younger?

Cristina: No. If they're growing up as adults, wouldn't their blood stop being mean? Anything?

Jack: Yeah, that's why they keep adding people over time. They're just like, well, I can't let you go now. You'll bust my operations.

Cristina: Oh, I guess.

Jack: But like, I'm not a bad guy. I just love adrenochrome.

Cristina: Kill them and bury them somewhere.

Jack: No, they're not bad people. They're just adrenochrome lovers. Are you. Are you trying to tell me that a priest has the capacity to be evil? Or maybe he just wants immortality. He's not evil. A priest can't be evil.

Cristina: He's a man of the cloth of immortality. Evil, then.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because God's not real. That's why they're doing this. Religion is entirely fabricated so that we can siphon people for blood. Well, at least Christianity.

Cristina: But the demigods are real.

Jack: Well, the demigods are just people who've had adrenochrome for very long.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: If we've established before God himself was just a demigod who had the probably adrenochrome of demigods.

Cristina: How did he do it?

Jack: It's less that story, Right. You go and you eat people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then you get so strong from people that you're kind of like a God. So then you start eating other gods.

Cristina: Until you run into Jesus.

Jack: Until you run into Jesus, who himself drank the blood of many, many, many, many, many, many gods. Then you drink Jesus blood. His blood is like your blood, but you've never had somebody's blood that's like your blood. You've had other God blood, but you've. You're the super mega God because you've had all the God blood. So now you got the super mega God blood. Mix it, you're super mega God blood, and then you become Jehovah. Now you're super. I don't even need adrenochrome anymore. I'm just everywhere.

Cristina: And then what? Then you die.

Jack: You go ahead and you create a universe with a bunch of people, and you have them. D***, did we crack it? Was that the solution? That was the solution we've been waiting to figure out. Like, how the dots connected on that one.

Cristina: Yes, that's why. But he also did it to make more of him.

Jack: Yeah, so that he can possibly drink the adrenochrome blood of that super omniscient God. That's what Jehovah wants. But it's so hard to get.

Cristina: So he's just looking for more blood.

Jack: He's. We know that he's trying to transcend to whatever the next thing is, but.

Cristina: We didn't know why.

Jack: But we didn't know why it's still about blood. You're human. Get adrenochrome, you become, you know. Superhuman.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then you have enough superhuman blood, you become demigod. You have enough demigod blood, you become omniscient God. You have enough omniscient God blood, you go to some s*** that we can't even fathom. Yeah, but Jehovah has not been able to. But with it, there's definitely a difference between Jesus and, like, Zeus. And I think Jehovah and Zeus are very similar. We just. Jehovah's way more mysterious and we don't know what it looks like. Yeah, but the idea is the same.

Cristina: He's probably a dude.

Jack: Yeah, just some guy. He likes being shady and hidden and secretive or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like, he's just like. Yeah, he looks like. Exactly. Just turns into earthly s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, you're just a guy, bro. What if I lit that bush on actual fire?

Cristina: What if he was an animal in that bush? Like.

Jack: Like a giant gerbil, like in South Park.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like God turned out to be the weirdest creature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I'm just a turtle or something.

Cristina: Crap. What's that creature that we asked to predict the weather?

Jack: You think he' the groundhog. You think the groundhog is like, Chuck from Supernatural is just some random s*** you wouldn't expect.

Cristina: Yes. That's too weird of a creature to give adrenochrome for that specific thing.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's too weird to be like, I'm blood, so you can tell me what the weather is gonna be like.

Jack: I don't think it happened in that order. I think it got a hold of blood by accident.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then you know, any. Almost anything that takes adrenochrome becomes, like, human. Like, if it's not already.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it could talk and s***. And it's like, bro, I could somehow. I can't even explain it. I could see the weather and the seasons and the temperature and, like, I get it. I see it all. Like, what? It's like one. You're f****** talking groundhog. But wait, wait, wait. Let's ignore that part about you being a talking groundhog. You can detect the weather. You're saying our crops, man. Yeah, man. Our crops.

Cristina: That means he can predict the future, which means he could be.

Jack: Maybe it's just the weather. Maybe he's not like Johnny over there. He's gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Cristina: But we don't know.

Jack: We don't.

Cristina: We need to speak to him. But we don't know the secret language of the groundhog.

Jack: Well, the groundhog speaks. No, they do have a f******. Yeah, we had a whole thing about that. Yeah.

Cristina: Secret society that communicates with him in his language.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Cuz all the adrenaline, people. Interesting. Interesting. So then we have a problem.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We got to go catch this f****** groundhog.

Cristina: We gotta, like, just to see if he's.

Jack: Well, now we're elevating because, you know, we. We before we were hunting s***. Of which there is more.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's one f****** groundhog that's doing this for whatever reason. We haven't given this to other groundhogs. There might be something about this groundhog that told us we probably shouldn't do this other ground. Maybe it's too op. Maybe it is God. Maybe we're just like, s***, we can't do this again.

Cristina: After he retired, he became the groundhog of this town. That predicts the weather. That's his retirement.

Jack: But Adrenochrome let him there.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. But like, he was doing stuff before.

Jack: Was he a groundhog, is the question.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or did he take the form of a groundhog?

Cristina: He was always a groundhog.

Jack: He was just always a groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Jehovah is the groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah. Because we don't. Because as far as. Oh, no, they do transform. There are creatures that transform. I forgot there's lots of.

Jack: Bunch of s*** that gets shapeshifting.

Cristina: So it is probably Chief's thing. Creature.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. But what the f*** chooses to be groundhog of all things?

Cristina: I don't know. Like, it's the most. It's the least suspicious thing.

Jack: I guess. We gotta catch it. We gotta find out if it's hard to catch and, like, overpower and, like, breaks out of our. Like, we got tech.

Cristina: If it bites us, do we get rabies? Is that type of thing.

Jack: No, I'm sure we just get powers.

Cristina: Or we get power.

Jack: It's like rolling around in radiation or something. Except you're rolling around in, like, celestial blood or you got bit by celestial rabies. That's a shortcut to superpowers.

Cristina: That's awesome.

Jack: It probably won't bite us for that very reason. It's the one that's, like, at all powerful.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We should try to force it to bite us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Bam.

Cristina: What if we die, though?

Jack: You know, that's a trick. We luckily. And it always comes back to this, but we got subhumans to try this on. They're going to be obedient no matter what the case might be.

Cristina: Because if that does kill them, at least you know.

Jack: Yes. And if they become super overpowered, then we can make our army of subhumans way better by getting it to bite all of them and just hold this slave. If we can.

Cristina: Why are we doing this? The subhumans are already way stronger than us.

Jack: It's fine. They're never gonna disobey us. They're always on our side.

Cristina: It's gonna be so crazy when they decide to do that.

Jack: Why? Why would they ever decide? We've established that for whatever reason, they will never turn on us.

Cristina: I don't know. It feels like this is going. This is like the. Was it 501st or whatever.

Jack: We're just making them op. As.

Cristina: Yes. And just like they day that they're gonna turn on us at one moment.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. Because we're the people who have the power to launch order 66. They'd be flipping for us.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Like, these subhumans are just people. Well, not. It's just our whole organization.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: But these subhumans are just people living their lives. It's like Fight Club. We're the people who make your food.

Cristina: But they came from China. I feel like if anyone's gonna flip them, it would be them. And then. Then they would turn on us.

Jack: China. Property of the queen. Queen. Part of the Illuminati.

Cristina: Oh, boom. Then the queen can do it.

Jack: But we also have the power to launch the orders. We're all part of the same corporation. We work together. She's high ranking.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, if we're like, we're gonna launch and she's like, no, you're not, then obviously. No, we're not.

Cristina: No, I guess not. Okay, so we'll have some overpowered superhuman super clones. Not clones. But aren't they. They're actual people.

Jack: Yeah. There's subhuman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know how we landed on subhumans as a name, but they're smarter, stronger, faster, more independent, more purely human. Because they were just born, and then we genetically engineered them to be way stronger and better.

Cristina: Yeah. They were just children that no one wanted.

Jack: Yeah. They're aborted babies that were raised.

Cristina: Oh, they were aborted babies? Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. All the aborted babies that were Raised.

Cristina: So that we could stop people from having abortions.

Jack: Yes, the sub humans were the solution to abortion deaths.

Cristina: Yeah, we solve things, though.

Jack: We solve things. Look, this is. This is important. We came to conclusions and solutions. Resolutions came up with plans. We gotta catch a groundhog. Maybe make the subhumans even better. Maybe make our own gods to take down. We still have to go attack the gods of cat people. We don't know if they did it through adrenochrome, which now starting to sound more like.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, their magic is probably science.

Jack: Yeah, they're demigods. That's all it is. They're hyper intelligent people who had a bunch of blood and Jesus was probably in cahoots with them. And then whatever Jehovah is probably also. And then drank some of their blood. Boom. Became some op s***.

Cristina: Yeah, so we gotta get all our demigods to fight their demigods.

Jack: F***. You know what? We never thought about it. Makes perfect sense hitting the f****** subhumans with some adrenochrome, see what happens. They're already jacked up.

Cristina: No, because I'll turn them into something else.

Jack: As long as we don't have adrenochrome. That would turn them into something else. Okay, well, I mean, I guess they could turn something else, but it would turn them feral if they didn't have more. Yeah, they should stay sharp and clear.

Cristina: So we got to get them hooked.

Jack: We got to choose half, make sure.

Cristina: That they stay on it.

Jack: Yeah, we got to take half of all the sub humans and let them feed on the other half of the subhumans regularly, but not so regularly they drain them. So the other half, volunteers, gets into some pods to keep them alive, and the lights get shut out. And then they get forever siphoned by the other half. That becomes super smart. They already are, but like super smarter and more strong than they already are and faster and like all the maximized. Yeah, plus whatever powers they get. Yeah, but powers come along with that.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Jack: And then we use these demigods we created. Go send them through the pyramids using entanglement, through that technology, straight to where the cat gods are.

Cristina: Yeah, us.

Jack: And then have them capture some of the cat gods, bring them back the same way. And now we got cat gods with us. We can start questioning what the. How old they are, where they've been. What the is happening? What's on the other side? Is it safe for us to go and investigate? Or should the subhumans. They're gonna be like, no, you should not Go over there. You can't survive. Or what? A don't let us know.

Cristina: Yes. That is so much information we need to know.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Crazy. But we figured it out.

Jack: We figured it out. We came to solutions. It's all great. This is a productive meeting we're having.

Cristina: Yes. We've been trying to figure this out forever.

Jack: Yeah, we've been trying the one get over there to figure out what's up with Jehovah.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We solved the Jehovah problem. Now we know how to send somebody all the way to the cat people and solve that problem.

Cristina: Yeah, it's.

Jack: All the pieces are here.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Wow.

Cristina: Yeah. And I knew it had to do with adrenochrome. I just didn't know how.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: My original plan was we would take adrenal chrome and go to space to where the cat people were.

Jack: You totally did.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You thought adrenochrome would somehow do that. But it wasn't going to protect us in space.

Cristina: Exactly. Yeah.

Jack: But we were being dumb because we were thinking us with adrenal.

Cristina: Yes. And we didn't have the pyramids.

Jack: And we did have the pyramid. Yes. Now we don't have to traverse base. We can blink to the other side.

Cristina: Yep. Oh, we did it.

Jack: We did it. We got to the bottom of things.

Cristina: Well, we're gonna get to the bottom of things.

Jack: Well, yeah, we got to the bottom of how we're gonna get to the bottom of.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yes. Yes.

Jack: I like that. We got this episode. We got to the bottom of how we're gonna get to the bottom of things.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's a punchline. Definite. So, yeah, I guess if. If you like this conversation, there's. There's a lot like it you could go find when we're talking about vampire Jesus. There's one. We're talking about Jehovah's adrenochrome. We talk about God a lot. And all the different aspects about cat people. The cat people. There's a bunch of.

Cristina: Started with a time machine.

Jack: It started with a time machine when I went back to kill. Not went back. When I started sending people into a version of me to stop cat people from taking over the world as a human population declined. And then send people in the future so they could repopulate and not let it decline was a very genius solution. Anyways, you can find those. There's an. And a bunch of adrenochrome episodes, of course. So many.

Cristina: And Catholic.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like religion, Catholicism and all that stuff. You can find all of that stuff. On the official website greatthoughts.info. or on Apple podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get podcasts.

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Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, very important. And this whole episode was just to tell you for the most part that all of our British listeners keep listening and getting more people to listen so that we can get more people to listen. By getting them to listen.

Cristina: Yes. And cancer.

Jack: And cancer. Well, you don't want your life to be meaningless. You heard it. You got cancer. And I get more people to listen so that your life wouldn't mean.

Cristina: Yep. This has been the just conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Are you sure you didn't mish hear what they were saying?

Jack: I am 100% sure I did not mishear what they were saying.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: Kug nug fug. It is a thing.

Cristina: It's not a thing.

Jack: It is a thing.

Cristina: Kug nug fug it. No. No, it's not. That's a lie.

Jack: I'm thinking context clues, right? It's like God d*** you.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Or D*** it. D*** it. Oh, you f****** idiot. You cugnuck it. It's like the value of X.

Cristina: But how could you even guess that from a.

Jack: It's based on the tone of how they look. Like they were joking around in whatever language they were talking.

Cristina: What did they look like? Bros. A bunch of bros is the bro language.

Jack: No, it's not a bro language. It was just a bunch of bros speaking their native langu, which was a language I've never heard before. But bros aren't smart enough to come up with their own language.

Cristina: So how do you know?

Jack: Because bros are bros. So you can't bro your way to a new language maybe. Nah, it ain't how it works. Are you sure all bros speak English?

Cristina: I don't know, because that's not English. But that's not anything that's nothing.

Jack: Coggin. The f*** it.

Cristina: It's nothing.

Jack: It's a thing. It's the most important word in all of language.

Cristina: You don't even know what it means.

Jack: The meaning of life is behind what kug nug f*** it is. No, you don't know this to say. No, you don't know.

Cristina: You don't know this to say.

Jack: No, I know that. Kug nug fug. It is a word. It's not a word, it's a fact.

Cristina: That's the word you made up a few minutes ago.

Jack: No, I. I am telling you that throughout the course of my entire life, I've heard foreigners say kug nug it casually.

Cristina: I've never heard it.

Jack: I've heard it always. Since the day I was born.

Cristina: You're lying.

Jack: Since I began to hear language, I have heard kugnog.

Cristina: No, you don't remember that.

Jack: Yes, I remember the day I was born and the first thing the doctor said. When he held me, he looked at me. He was like, oh, what a cute little kug nug F*** it.

Cristina: You know what? How do you know that's not your name? I don't know. That's my conclusion. That's your name.

Jack: My name is. My name has been Kug nug f*** it this whole time.

Cristina: Yes, that's fire. Who are those ghouls? Are they your brothers?

Jack: Oh, s***. Do I know these people?

Cristina: Morning. The Just Conversation podcast, hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 147: Free Live Show

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Are live shows worth it? Will listeners show? Will money get made? Are the profits worth the effort? Or should the content come first and the profit be an after thought? And where do we host these shows? Can it be done at a private location? An Island resort perhaps? The duo decides where to host their first life show and who is allowed to be present to listen in.

Rambling 147: Free Live Show

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Topics Discussed

  • Live Studio Audience
  • 30 Listener Limit
  • What is a Country?
  • How do Passports work?
  • Artificial Islands
  • Ticket Prices
  • Free Live Shows
  • $1,000 Tickets
  • Mega Shark
  • Mechazilla
  • Crocodiles vs Alligators
  • The Kraken
  • Unsolved Math Problems
  • Guest Alex Grey

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyed with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So go find somebody and tell them you gotta listen to the show. And also tell them you gotta watch the show.

Cristina: So you gotta watch the show.

Jack: Yeah. Wouldn't be cool if we had an audience. If they just started showing up at the front of the studio and they're.

Cristina: Just, oh, we're doing this live.

Jack: Yeah, we're gonna start. We're gonna have a whole audience.

Cristina: A whole audience.

Jack: The Just Conversation podcast is recorded in front of a live audience.

Cristina: Are we going to be on a stage? Is it going to be a huge room? Or is it going to be a tiny room with a bunch of people packed in?

Jack: Oh, s***. Do we want a personal thing or do we want like a big explosive for all our hundreds of millions of listeners? Like a rock concert. Yeah, all the listeners on a stage. What everybody looking at is millions of people.

Cristina: That's too much. Let's just squeeze in a room.

Jack: Squeeze in a room like. Like the Select 30.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Private, exclusive things. Sell tickets, super expensive because there's only like 30 seats. Yeah, be like $600 a pop or the next highest.

Cristina: Giving them seats. Maybe they just stand for an hour.

Jack: Just so we got. They're paying for the spot to stand in.

Cristina: Yeah, I mean, if they're lazy, they can sit down.

Jack: Yeah, I guess. And really they're not even paying for the spot. We're just gonna fill it to capacity and just rent out a really tiny place. Yeah, like there's. There could only be 30 people here because fire hazards and.

Cristina: Let's not rent anything. Let's just do it in a park.

Jack: Then we. It's out in the open. We can. More people could just show up.

Cristina: No, but we won't let them.

Jack: How are we going to stop them?

Cristina: I don't know. We'll have a tape around us or something.

Jack: Then people are going to stand on the other side of the tape. You know what, that's good though, because they'll be like, man, but I could be on that side of the table.

Cristina: Yeah, maybe that going to get them more Curious.

Jack: But these pots are already sold or taken.

Cristina: We'll have a bigger rope or whatever around the group so that to reach the farthest that anyone can hear it, so that no one can hear it except the middle circle of people that paid.

Jack: So then here's the problem. This is logistically annoying. But possible. Right. Because we would need some speakers that the back of the inner bubble is. They could barely hear it, but still hear it. But the front of the inner bubble hears it clearly. But as soon as the second bubble begins, it's too far and you can't hear anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we need just the right exact volume to know that sound with 30 people in there is going to travel only as far as the barrier of the inner circle and then not the outer barrier of the inner circle.

Cristina: That sounds complicated. We'll test it out.

Jack: But probably gonna take a lot of money to make this happen.

Cristina: Why do we have to pay so much to make it happen?

Jack: I don't know. Everything costs money.

Cristina: It's in the park.

Jack: Yeah. A public place that we have to pay public. Which is really just government, which they're really only. I don't know. We can't do anything legally like that.

Cristina: We can't. Why do they have to know?

Jack: Because it's an event.

Cristina: They don't need to know we're having an event.

Jack: If they showed up, they would just arrest us or give us a ticket and kick us out. Anyways.

Cristina: What if we go to a forest? Where? I don't know. Where there's no one there.

Jack: I mean, I guess. Right. Somebody has to own. Does it ever. Is everything owned?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, every piece of dirt belongs to somebody.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: Somebody takes claim to it.

Cristina: You think we have to buy something?

Jack: No, I think we rent out space. Like. Or at least get permission. Yeah, but, like, I don't want to. Now I'm curious as to. Is there. Is there a place somewhere that isn't owned?

Cristina: And we just go there and we just go there.

Jack: But like, every piece of dirt is part of a continent inside of some country, right?

Cristina: Yeah. What about all the islands that are out there?

Jack: Unless there's nobody on the island. The island has never been discovered or.

Cristina: Is too tiny for anyone to live there. Like, there's gotta be tiny islands that you can't really do anything with.

Jack: Fair enough. But somebody owned it is the question. Does it belong to some government that then we have to rent it from? Or is there just some, like, island that has never. But like, Google Maps is the thing. Google Earth, Right.

Cristina: You think Google Earth can find it?

Jack: No, the problem is, has it? And like, could Google. If somebody's looking on Google Earth, has every place already been discovered? Is there like a billionaire who paid again was like, find an island that isn't charted, tell me where it is, I'm gonna put all my s*** over there and say it's mine because nobody can take it because I was the first. There are those rules, like if we found an island today.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Are there rules around finding the island that prevent me, the billionaire, from just being like, it's mine now? Because I just put a flag there?

Cristina: I don't. Well, you got to probably pay something for it.

Jack: For who? To who?

Cristina: To who? I don't know. I guess you have to claim which country you're under when you do it.

Jack: That's crazy, right? Like, are they just going to be like, well, it's closer to me and they're going to debate it, or do.

Cristina: You have to make it a new country or do you have to make.

Jack: It a new country?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, do you have to make it a new country?

Cristina: You might have to.

Jack: Why? Who said.

Cristina: Because then a country will claim it.

Jack: F*** you. Right.

Cristina: That's why you got to claim.

Jack: No, but. No, you claim it yourself and you say you're not part of any country.

Cristina: Yeah. So then you gotta. It's your own country, though, is it a country? It's whatever you call it. I don't know.

Jack: Is it by default a country just because it's a landmass of its own that isn't associated with any other country? And thus I think country is the biggest you can get to before you can't get bigger?

Cristina: I think. So, like when Peter made his home his own country. Yeah. It's the same thing, I think, visit a country.

Jack: So is by default any landmass part of a country, whether or not the country, like, yeah, it's just you can't get bigger. That's it. It's just you are part of a country.

Cristina: You have to be part of something.

Jack: Well, you are the country. You don't have to be part of. You are a country.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Bare minimum, you're a country.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You might be a country of one. So your country is your main, is your capital, and it's the only town in your country and it's the only neighborhood in the only town in the only city in your country.

Cristina: Yeah. And you don't have to pay anyone taxes for that. Right, because you pay you taxes. Yeah, that sounds right.

Jack: But then do you need a passport for people to step on your country.

Cristina: Ooh.

Jack: And do you need a passport?

Cristina: You need a passport to visit other countries, Definitely.

Jack: But how do you get a passport if now you are a country and you don't.

Cristina: You already have a passport. I'm guessing before you got to that country, you were from a country, right? Like, you didn't lose all your documents from those other countries.

Jack: What? If you had no passport, how did.

Cristina: You get to that island?

Jack: Well, you didn't. You need a passport to enter. You don't need a passport to fly. You need a passport to enter another country. Yeah, but you got to this place before it was a country.

Cristina: Yeah, but you weren't traveling to different. Like, you still have a passport from where you're from.

Jack: No, you have your own airport. You have your own, and it's for local flight. You're not allowed to fly out of the country, and you're not allowed to fly into another country. There you go. Okay, now, do they let you fly into uncharted dirt if you don't have a passport? Because what you would need a passport for is that country. No, no, because.

Cristina: Okay, you wouldn't.

Jack: Okay, because there's nobody there to tell you you need a passport to get in. There's nobody there. Yes, you need somebody to tell you you need a passport to get in.

Cristina: From there to anywhere else. You would need a passport.

Jack: Would you, though? To anywhere that requires a passport. Yeah, but anywhere that doesn't require a passport?

Cristina: No, I guess not.

Jack: Right. So you can only travel the countries that don't require passports because you don't have a passport system, because you don't know how passport.

Cristina: So you gotta. You just go back to the country you came from and get a passport, though. Wouldn't you be able to travel from other countries in your new country? Once I get a passport from your.

Jack: Old country, I guess now the question is, I don't know. I don't know. So you can you fly there, you claim it's your own. It's a country by default.

Cristina: You might still need a passport from that country, though.

Jack: From what country? Your own country?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because when you go to another country, they need to know where you came from.

Jack: And you're telling them, I came from this piece of dirt. So they need to decide whether or not that country needs a passport.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I think they need to choose. Oh, because you can't be like, well, I need. I don't need a passport. And they'd be like, well, you do. And you say, well, I need a password. It's like, we wouldn't look at it anyways because we don't take passports.

Cristina: But country that does need a passport, you do need a passport for.

Jack: Right, but the question is, what would it. Yeah, for any country that does require passport, you need a passport no matter what. Yeah, but if your country can't make a passport and you tell them that also, why would they say you need a passport from your country to enter?

Cristina: You just need a passport.

Jack: No, some could not. Okay, so like some countries don't need you to have passports.

Cristina: No, they're saying the one that you're going to, that does need a passport, you'll need a passport.

Jack: No, what I'm saying is, I don't think. For example, let's say Russia requires you to have a passport.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But if you're an American, you know, like, does it still require you to have a passport if you're like Turkish? Or can you just enter Russia without a passport if you're Turkish? And is that how the passport works? Or is it that Russia said, I need a passport? Regardless of where the f*** you come from, you need a passport. That's my question. Because if it's selective, why would they just be like, well, clearly you don't have a way to make a passport, but f*** your s***, you're not allowed in our country. You need a passport.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know.

Jack: And is it like uniform like that? Or would they just be like. Well, your country doesn't need it.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Because they pick which countries need it. Right?

Cristina: Yeah, but I feel like they will say you need it.

Jack: Like in the European Union, you just drive from one place to another without a passport. Yeah, you just drive around Europe. A lot of Europe.

Cristina: A lot of it. But not every.

Jack: Without a passport, they don't give a f***. Yeah, but if you were American going to Europe, they would need you to have a passport. So they don't need passports amongst each other in their different countries.

Cristina: Yeah, but from this island to one of those countries, you probably still need.

Jack: A passport, but you still need a password to enter Mexico.

Cristina: You do.

Jack: I think so. Or if you were to drive.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Through Mexico and be like, I'm gonna go to Guatemala. Do you need a passport or is it just flight related?

Cristina: I don't think.

Jack: No, because if you go to. If you go to Canada.

Cristina: Exactly. You don't need a passport.

Jack: Yeah, to Canada.

Cristina: But I think Mexico works the same way.

Jack: Also, if you were to stay living in Canada, you would need a passport.

Cristina: Would you?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, but to Visit, though.

Jack: But to visit. And it all depends on the instance really. They don't really like, stop you from. But like, does Mexico work that way? That's my question.

Cristina: So I think Mexico works that way.

Jack: So then you can go through Mexico into Guatemala and be like, okay, yeah.

Cristina: I'm going on vacation. That's what you got to tell them. You just got to say, like, what you're.

Jack: Is that true though, or is that a guess?

Cristina: That's a guess. But I'm. I'm pretty sure it works the same as going to Canada.

Jack: But why?

Cristina: Because I think I read about it somewhere.

Jack: The going into Mexico. You don't need a passport. Yeah, I somehow doubt that. I think you do.

Cristina: Why? No, I don't think so.

Jack: Then how do you get back into the United States?

Cristina: They know you're a US Citizen. You have identification to prove it. If they don't believe you, I'm pretty sure your, your accent will prove that you're an American. Interesting.

Jack: I wonder how wrong this is or how accurate this is.

Cristina: I don't know. I'm sure he's very accurate. Sorry.

Jack: So then in theory, you could just take a boat to my island and not need a passport.

Cristina: Well, if you say so.

Jack: Because if you're interested, my point is I could take a boat out of my island to any other landmass. Is it just flight related or do countries require. If you're like, if I was going into Asia from Europe driving, but these.

Cristina: Countries know about these other countries. Your country is a new country.

Jack: No, my, my question is, if I were going from like Germany to China.

Cristina: In a car, probably need a passport, would I.

Jack: Is it just flight related?

Cristina: Is it flight related? I don't know if it's just flight related.

Jack: I've never tried crossing any border without an airplane being involved.

Cristina: Yeah, I think I'm assuming it has to not just be flight related.

Jack: Right. Like you. Because it'd be crazy. Then everybody would just do it the other way. I don't f****** pass before I just get there in a car.

Cristina: I don't know. People are lazy. They like planes fair.

Jack: And it's quicker and you could sleep through it.

Cristina: Yeah. So I don't.

Jack: I mean, it would have to be, right? That's ridiculous. It's crazy that I don't know how fast. I've never in my life taken any other form of transportation with a passport.

Cristina: I think on boats you also need passports. Right. If you're gonna go to a country.

Jack: I've never used a boat ticket again. I've Literally never. Like, I've only done planes.

Cristina: It can't be playing. It can't just be planes.

Jack: It can't just be planes. Right. It doesn't make any sense.

Cristina: If the rule is you need to have a passport, it doesn't matter how you're getting there. I think you need a passport.

Jack: Yes. Okay, so we just don't need a passport for Mexico and Canada.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Got it.

Cristina: Because they like us. No, they don't.

Jack: The question. I'm not entirely sure how you are with Mexico. I know, for Canada you don't really need it to get in. I'm not sure. I'm not 100% sure on the Mexican part, but I also don't know. It just seems like it wouldn't be the case.

Cristina: Why not? It's the other way around. We don't work the same as them. They accept us, we don't accept them.

Jack: Fair. It could totally be that way.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: So, yes, in theory, I could make an island. Not making. I guess I could make it. Do people own the waters? No, the waters aren't owned by anybody.

Cristina: Well, you want to. Are you positive you can do that, though?

Jack: Yes, people have made islands.

Cristina: But who do you ask to do that? I don't know, because that would be considered trash. And then they're like, hey, you gotta. You get a fine for making this island.

Jack: No, because you're finding the water, who finds you? I think that's the problem. Right. They dump s*** into the oceans.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Who finds you at that point?

Cristina: Who finds who?

Jack: Who's. Who's giving you the tax for what?

Cristina: Who's in the country nearest to you?

Jack: No, because they. You're in. If you're. I'm sure every country has a radius in the water.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And if you're not in their radius, that. If that line cuts off before it reaches you.

Cristina: What if every part of the water is owned by someone?

Jack: That can't be the case. That s***. That can't be.

Cristina: It probably is.

Jack: No, it probably. It can't be. It cannot be. There's a radius around everything. And that's my argument there. It has to be. It would be crazy for every bit of water to belong to somebody.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's dumb. That can't be.

Cristina: They want. They would do that.

Jack: Yes, but the problem is then you have to give every country the same thing. And nobody wants that.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So they probably sooner do the radius thing and be like, no, you don't get more water than me just because you're bigger. So, no, we all just get this much water around us.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because that's sooner than, well, that country's biggest f***. And like a good 90% of the ocean belongs to that one country. Like probably not.

Cristina: We're going to this up and it's like the queen owns all the water.

Jack: That'd be crazy.

Cristina: Like, I don't know. One person owns it all.

Jack: I think, I think there's a radius like a measurable distance from shore in every direction, surrounding every bit of shore. So it would be the exact shape of whatever borders of that country are touching water around it. Just at a farther distance from than the land.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so it just circles the landmass in exactly the same shape of the landmass and those waters are owned and that includes islands. So islands and the same distant radius around them belongs to that island.

Cristina: Yeah. And then there's some water that's owned by no one because it doesn't touch anything.

Jack: Exactly. And then we take the island builders or whatever that team is called that.

Cristina: Builds islands and they're going in there.

Jack: Yeah. We take them to one of those best. Probably particularly deep water too because there's no land sticking up around that.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's probably not safe to build in that.

Jack: It's probably safe to build. This is probably really expensive because you got to make a hole somewhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And bring all that s*** there to make a hole.

Cristina: This isn't going to work.

Jack: I mean, if you had enough billions you could do it.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: I think so. I think with enough billions you could get it done.

Cristina: I guess.

Jack: There are man made islands.

Cristina: There are?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But out there.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Not next to actual islands.

Jack: Oh yeah. Probably next to actual island. I doubt somebody just made an artificial island in the middle of the ocean.

Cristina: Yeah. Maybe you can like, I don't know, drive your island into the ocean or whatever it's called when you're riding a boat. Ride the island to the middle of the ocean. This is man made?

Jack: No, no, no. Because it can't just be floating.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: It has to be touching the bottom, rising all the way to the top.

Cristina: How do you do that?

Jack: Money. Just throw a bunch of s*** in one spot over and over and over and over until it fills up. Which means you got to make a big a****** somewhere. But whatever. Billions of dollars are going into it. You make this one, it doesn't have to be a big island. It's just a lot of stuff to make it stand successful. Without the undercurrents of stuff though. We just dig a hole, put sand in to make dirt. I don't know. And build an island with dirt that's.

Cristina: Coming from the country it's next to.

Jack: No, we. I mean, I guess I gotta buy it from somewhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then transport it.

Cristina: Yeah, that sounds super expensive.

Jack: Yeah. But I'm sure it won't take. Like if we use the richest guy's money. Right. And leave him $1 billion.

Cristina: But then your island's still part of that country because you're right next to it.

Jack: No, you are leaving. You're buying the stuff from the country, then going super far into UN owned waters.

Cristina: But how are you reaching that?

Jack: Would you get. There's a team of people with boats and technology.

Cristina: So you're living on the boats until you finish this project? I guess.

Jack: How do you think like a. Like an oil rig in the middle of the ocean happens?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It's the same way we're just gonna do that tactic. Like, those are just boats technology. To me, those are boats constructing out there.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. So we just need that.

Cristina: But is that really in the middle of nowhere?

Jack: It's not so far out, but it's like. It really is kind of like if you fell, you drown.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So yeah, we. We do that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then we get our audience into.

Cristina: That's why we're doing this.

Jack: Yeah. So we can get the audience onto the island so that we don't have to. Because we want. We're gonna put in the park. But it would be problematic.

Cristina: But. Okay, so they don't need passports to our island.

Jack: They don't need passports to our island.

Cristina: But will they need passports to go home? We still don't understand that.

Jack: Like, that doesn't. I don't. I don't care.

Cristina: How do we go home? We will live on that.

Jack: We'll get passports.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They can get passports if they want. They can come to the island.

Cristina: Countries don't want us to have passports. I don't know. They're unhappy with what we did.

Jack: What, make an island.

Cristina: Yeah. And they're like, we're not gonna give you passports or whatever.

Jack: Then we don't go into that country. We can't possibly be done with every country.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Somebody has to let us in.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then through that country, we get back in.

Cristina: But then we have the waiting date. Wait for these passports. Are we getting the passports before we do it? Like, this is going to take a long time. I mean, the whole project will take a long time.

Jack: I'm sure just the passports. We Already have are still passports and they work. Yeah, we don't need like a new set of passports.

Cristina: Okay, so. But the people that we're bringing should have their own passports at least. No, you won't worry about them at all.

Jack: I won't worry about them. You can worry about them if you want, but after the show's done, we put them on a ferry and we're like, you don't have to go home, but you gotta get the f*** out of here. And then that ferry takes off.

Cristina: Are we paying for that ferry?

Jack: We own it. Or I guess it could be like a Uber ferries.

Cristina: Uber fairies and like, I don't know.

Jack: That's a far a** trip. Yeah, like whatever we'll pay for, you know.

Cristina: How did they get here?

Jack: Man? This started as just being really cheap because we were going to do it for free, but then we had to pay the billions to get like just.

Cristina: Doing in the middle of the park and getting the find us would be so much cheaper.

Jack: But look, after we do this, we can, we can throw the show for free whenever we want.

Cristina: The goal is the show being 30 people.

Jack: No, look, the show. The goal is the show being free. Whatever other expenses we do is fine. Because the show, the principal idea is we don't pay for the show. We don't have to pay to throw the show and have guests there for the show because we're not selling them. Also, the island needs to be big enough to have the inner and the outer circle because people need to show up to the island and not be able to hear.

Cristina: Why? Why do we need those people?

Jack: Because those are just features of the show.

Cristina: Okay, so they're just gonna. We're just gonna tell people you can come to this island?

Jack: No, they're gonna know that they're there for that. But the first 30 get to hear the show and we tell them. 2nd 30 get to be on the island but can't hear the show.

Cristina: Okay, so we got 60 people besides us too.

Jack: I mean, I guess that the outside.

Cristina: Circle is bigger, like bodyguards to stop these people from going into the circle.

Jack: Because it's only being divided by yellow tape.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because again, we went real low budget on this. It's just yellow tape. Where we really went all out was the figuring out the audio problem. Yes.

Cristina: The island.

Jack: Yeah, so that the I. So the sound only travels as far as the inner wall of the inner circle. So we need really expensive tech on that, but really cheap tech on just like wrapping yellow.

Cristina: What about the island? Is that cheap?

Jack: Well, that's not part of the cost of the show. That's just an island in which we're doing the show.

Cristina: But it's man made.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And who's paying for it?

Jack: We're paying for it with the richest billionaire. I guess the richest billionaires are paying for it.

Cristina: The richest billionaire?

Jack: Yeah. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are going to get together and fund this island for us. They're each only going to keep $1 billion of their money to make this island. To make this island.

Cristina: How much do the islands cost?

Jack: Don't know. Man made islands in the middle of the ocean, though.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They want us to have our own.

Cristina: Territory and we're not even going to have like enough room for planes. It's just boats coming in somehow.

Jack: Yes, yes. There must be a floating by boat that.

Cristina: Like how long is the trip from the land to the.

Jack: No, no, listen. There must be a boat that lets planes land on it.

Cristina: Oh, what? Okay.

Jack: And then they'd be landing on that boat. It's only 30 people. We don't need a lot, I guess.

Cristina: So it's a small boat. I mean, it's a small plane. It's a small plane.

Jack: Plane that holds 30 people.

Cristina: 30 people.

Jack: And they can arrive in different patterns. Like they can arrive five here, five there.

Cristina: Okay. Like a helicopter maybe, or something small, I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: But can a helicopter come from some random country like so far into the.

Jack: Middle of the island? That's a real question. I feel like helicopters don't have the.

Cristina: No, and I don't think boats can do that either. I mean, boats can do that.

Jack: Boats can. It's just quite a trip.

Cristina: Yeah. It's gonna take a long time.

Jack: Yeah, it could take weeks.

Cristina: This project is complicated.

Jack: Yes. But worth it because the show is gonna be free and it'll have the feature of the inner and outer circles of which only the inner can hear anything we're saying. Making the outer people very jealous that they weren't the first 30. So that next time we host another live show in front of a studio audience there. Yeah, they can be. They can scramble for it. Jack the price up.

Cristina: And how much is the prices anyway, originally?

Jack: What, for the tickets?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We could start at a thousand dollars each ticket.

Cristina: Okay. And we're paying for them to get there and leave or. That's them.

Jack: That's all part of the ticket. The ticket to the show covers your flight there and back and back, I guess.

Cristina: Well, we're not getting much from how much we spent.

Jack: Well, it's not about us getting paid, really. We're just charging for the sake of it. We were just gonna do this in the park for free.

Cristina: And the people that didn't pay for the show, how are they getting and calling if they're not paying? Unless they're just paying a different price.

Jack: We're paying for them to get on and not be able to hear the show.

Cristina: They're paying like half off.

Jack: So the tickets of the people who paid the. Listen covered the cost of all the people who couldn't pay and now can't listen, but still made it to the island.

Cristina: Okay, that's how it's happening.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I don't know. Okay. I feel like just doing in the middle of the park is easier.

Jack: But then how. No, it needs to be. Because then we gotta pay this f****** city.

Cristina: And how much is that compared to what you're talking about?

Jack: No, the point isn't. The point is doing the show free. Every other cost is unrelated.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah, if we do the show in the park, we have to pay the city on paper to do the show in the park.

Cristina: And if we make an island, we have to pay for the island.

Jack: Yeah, but that's not a cost of to do the show. That's just a cost to have an island. Because on the island we're gonna have the free show.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And the point is to not pay for the show.

Cristina: And that's the important thing.

Jack: That's the important thing that the show. That we beat the system.

Cristina: I don't know. I don't feel like we won anything.

Jack: We definitely won. We beat the government. We didn't pay them or ask permission.

Cristina: But I'm not sure if we still have to pay them or ask permission about making an island.

Jack: We. They can't. There's no f****** way. That wouldn't make sense. If we had to ask for permission to make an island and land that belongs to nobody or water nobody.

Cristina: But how are we gonna even like build there? I don't.

Jack: We will pay people to go do it with our billions.

Cristina: Because I'm assuming the ones that you were talking about, the oil thing, that can't be in water that's not owned. They probably.

Jack: No, that belongs to a country. 100%.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But we.

Cristina: It's not too deep or too far.

Jack: Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. It took way less resources to build that oil rig than it will to build our island for sure. But we're gonna have an island.

Cristina: What if the mega shark attacks us?

Jack: Mega shark?

Cristina: Yeah, that really big shark The Mega Shark.

Jack: There's a movie.

Cristina: Mega Shark? Yeah.

Jack: There's probably a movie called Mega Shark. But you mean Jaws.

Cristina: No, it's mega. It's huge. I don't know.

Jack: I do remember something like that.

Cristina: Ridiculous.

Jack: And the third one is a robot shark. Mecha Shark.

Cristina: There's a Mecha shark. I don't know. That sounds like something that will fight Godzilla.

Jack: Mecha Shark.

Cristina: There's probably a Mecha shark.

Jack: There's probably a Mecha Shark. I mean, there's a Mechagodzilla.

Cristina: Yeah, he should be fighting mechanically.

Jack: Why don't they call him Robozilla?

Cristina: That sounds blamer.

Jack: Then Mechagodzilla. Yeah, they could have called him Mechazilla. D***, that's a good one. Mechazilla sounds cool, but don't. With no. Like, break in the two parts. Like if you united Mecha and Zilla.

Cristina: Like they did with God and Zilla.

Jack: Yes, exactly. Like, you don't say God Zilla, you say Godzilla.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So instead of Mecca Zilla, you say Mechazilla.

Cristina: Mechazilla.

Jack: Mechazilla versus Godzilla.

Cristina: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Mecca, Godzilla, shark or the Kraken?

Jack: I don't know. But in the movie Godzilla, the Kraken. What the.

Cristina: That could attack us. We're in the middle of nowhere in waters that's owned by no one.

Jack: Yeah, but the Kraken is a. It's a punk a**. I challenge him to a duel.

Cristina: I don't know. He is giant squid.

Jack: I think it is either giant squid or giant octopus.

Cristina: No, that both sucks.

Jack: Yeah, it's probably giant octopus. Because a giant squid. A squid is like real specifically shaped like a torpedo. Kind of. Like its fins are really poisonous.

Cristina: Can they. A squid?

Jack: I don't know. I don't think so.

Cristina: I don't think it's.

Jack: I mean, there's powers, but an octopus has these really long tentacles, unlike a squid. And squid has tentacles, but they're shorter and it uses it to jet. It looks like a mop.

Cristina: It looks like a mop?

Jack: Yeah. It's like the shape of mop.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Thinner.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While an octopus is just all over the place. I think the Kraken is a giant octopus.

Cristina: Oh, I don't know.

Jack: They're probably like the same thing between a bunny and a rabbit. Like, they're not the same.

Cristina: I feel like those don't exist.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No, I think a bunny is a type of rabbit.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: I don't know. Let's find out.

Cristina: Let's find out. Okay.

Jack: Okay. So bunny is the one that's not a real word.

Cristina: That's exactly what I was thinking. I thought. Because I feel like they would call a toy that or something like, I guess a baby rabbit that you'd call a bunny or something.

Jack: So hare and rabbit.

Cristina: Those are two different things.

Jack: Those are two different things. And they're close to the same creature.

Cristina: Yeah, but bunny is not a thing.

Jack: Got you. So hare and a rabbit. But regardless, we call them all rabbits.

Cristina: Yes. Maybe that's just in this specific country and other country they call it hair. I don't know how that works.

Jack: Fair. But there's like a dominant name. Although they're two different creatures.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And the same thing happens with squids and octopuses. I think we. Octopus. No, octopuses is right. God, I hate that word because. So it's not octopi. It's not octopus for plural. It's octopuses, which sounds so incorrect.

Cristina: It's not octopussy.

Jack: Octopussy. Yeah. But we can we conflate those two words. We say octopus or squid and we assume they're the same s***.

Cristina: But they're not.

Jack: But they're not. Like, a lot of people are like, you know this. I saw a squid. No, it's an octopus. I saw an octopus.

Cristina: No, they look very similar.

Jack: Yeah, they got tentacles and they got a big.

Cristina: Like, crocodiles and alligators look very similar.

Jack: I don't know what the f*** the difference is. One is bigger than the other. I know that. I guess I do know what the difference is. I just don't know which one has the name.

Cristina: I feel like if you looked at two different photos, you wouldn't be able.

Jack: To tell if it didn't have a size reference next to them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know, like, if I knew which one was assigned by name and there was something they were around that could tell me their size, I could tell you if it's a crocodile or an alligator.

Cristina: I don't think so.

Jack: I think the alligator is a bigger one and the crocodile is a smaller one.

Cristina: But I bet there's smaller alligators. Like, if I put a small alligator next to a big alligator, you'd be like, that's a crocodile and that's an alligator. And then I'd be like, ha.

Jack: Interesting. There's another tell.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Crocodiles have a really sharp nose. Alligators have the more rounded.

Cristina: Okay. So there's something. Okay. Because it's just size. I think I could trick you.

Jack: Yeah. And alligators are swifter because they're smaller, they're closer to, like a lizard.

Cristina: Which one?

Jack: A crocodile.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: While an alligator. So slow. Well, it's not really slow if it got really of, like, really, really got a problem. The good thing is they have short stamina.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And that's where the difference is. But if you, like, had to run a substantial difference and you were tired, you're now running it, you're f*****.

Cristina: Would it chase you a lot of time?

Jack: It won't because it needs to cool off and they try to stay by water so that. That, like, holds your swimming.

Cristina: That's it.

Jack: You're not winning. Yeah. But at least you're not as f***** as a hippo. No, like a hippos, the craziest thing. It'll outrun you on foot. It'll outrun you in the water.

Cristina: There are different types of hippos. There has to be. Right.

Jack: It has to be right. Like, be weird if there weren't just one kind of a hippo out there.

Cristina: Because they all look the same to me.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So it's like elephants.

Jack: I'm sure there's a bunch of different kind of elephants.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or horses.

Cristina: There's definitely.

Jack: Yeah. I'm sure there's no way there's one of anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. Even if they look the same, but.

Cristina: For hippos, they've always looked the same. I guess I would have to just look at different types of hippos to really know.

Jack: But they showed us two different kinds of hippos at the same time. Maybe we'd be like, wait, why does this one look like. You know. And then if we saw enough of them, be like, well, this kind of hippo, is that because of that thing kind of like crocodile, Alligator.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like they kind of the same, but when you really think about it, you're like, ah, but you have a smaller, pointier nose.

Cristina: Yeah. So there has to be different hippos. I don't know. It's just every hippo looks like the same hippo to me.

Jack: Yeah. It's like elephants. All the elephants look more or less the same.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know. I feel more of the hippo than the elephant. I feel like there's probably differences with the elephants. Maybe you could tell from their ears, the ear shape, know how they have.

Jack: Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Cristina: Like there's probably something that's telling. I don't know.

Jack: Or rhinoceroses. Like, there's a type of a creature that it looks like they're almost the same s*** in any other, like, version of it. Like, I'm sure there's different kinds of rhinos.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But I got one, like, image of a rhino.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Now, it could be because our country is ignorant of this type of animals.

Cristina: Yes. Because they're not common.

Jack: Because they're not common. And in the countries where those animals are common, they could just tell them apart.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know.

Cristina: Well, but even some animals that are common here, I don't think I tell the difference. Like a type of squirrel.

Jack: Fair enough. Oh, well, no, there are types of squirrels. There's the regular squirrel and for example, the flying squirrel. You can already tell those two apart.

Cristina: Yeah, well, yeah. That's very different, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: No, I don't.

Jack: Is a chipmunk a squirrel?

Cristina: Huh? Yes. I think I could tell a chipmunk from a squirrel apart, at least.

Jack: Is it a squirrel? It's a type. They're the same. Like umbrella.

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: I don't know. But then is a rat the same? I don't know.

Jack: Is the chipmunk closer to a rat than it is? Oh, no, A squirrel is a rat.

Cristina: Is a squirrel a rat?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Squirrel's a rodent.

Cristina: Okay. Yes.

Jack: Which is what also chipmunk is, Right?

Cristina: Yeah, I think so. That sounds d***.

Jack: But then there's so many different kinds of rodents. I guess it doesn't work the same as, like, can we tell different types of chipmunks apart?

Cristina: Definitely not if there are different types of chipmunks.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because I could be like, we could.

Jack: All tell what a feline is until. Different types of felines. But if I'm like, could you tell me two different types of, like, lions?

Cristina: No.

Jack: Right?

Cristina: No. Yes.

Jack: And now. Well, there are many different types of canines, but, like, you could probably tell me many differences between the different kinds of huskies, which region one came from or what. Those are common to us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We can see the white husky and be like, oh, that's from this side. Well, that. That blue. And like. Okay, that one's more wolf. Because this.

Cristina: Okay. I think that's. Yeah. Dogs are easier, I guess.

Jack: Same thing with cats. There's. We could just say house cat. I could say Japanese bobcat, or I could say Siamese cat. Or like, you know, these are different types of domesticated cats.

Cristina: I think people know more dog types than cat types.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

Cristina: Or breeds, or whatever you want to call it. Breeds.

Jack: We could tell the breeds apart and then we can tell difference up between. Within the breeds. We can get really granular with dogs.

Cristina: Exactly. Yes. With the Dog? Yep.

Jack: Like, there could be a Chihuahua, but it could be Chihuahuas from many different places. And you can tell different types of Chihuahuas. And Chihuahuas are pure Chihuahuas and things like that. We could just tell by looking at them.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But like, I couldn't do that with an elephant.

Cristina: Or a rat.

Jack: Or a rat. Well, we don't look at rats enough. You know, Also, we live in a weird bubble without them.

Cristina: What about hamsters? Everyone has hamsters. Okay, maybe not everyone has hamsters, but.

Jack: Could you tell difference between two different types of hamsters, or are they just both hamsters to you?

Cristina: Yeah, they're probably just hamsters because have.

Jack: You looked at enough hamsters to be this is what's different? Or whatever? F***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like, I've recently been learning a lot about horses. And before, horses all look the f****** same to me.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But now it can start telling you some differences. I can't get granular with it, but I can tell you, like, different types of horse.

Cristina: Yeah. You know enough about horse.

Jack: I know enough about horses. I know Turkomani and the Arabians, man.

Cristina: Are there separate in that? Like, are they all the same?

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Like, is that the breed?

Jack: Those are. Yeah. Well, I guess it's countries where they come from and a lot of the horses are acknowledged for the country that breeds that type of horse, even if there might be variants that aren't necessarily country related, but within the country, that same type of horse might have different variants. Yes, but you can tell who. Who bred it based on the type of code and based on the behaviors that the horse like, the traits it has.

Cristina: So you can tell what country you came from?

Jack: Yeah, a lot of the time.

Cristina: Okay, well. And they look so different from each other, though eventually you tell the difference. At least from a big horse to a small horse is the easiest to tell the difference. Yeah, like, I don't know.

Jack: Like, I. My Google search for this took place in me asking the God of all knowledge, what's the best horse in the world?

Cristina: You asked Google that?

Jack: Well, I asked Google And I guess YouTube is also Google.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And just went down a rabbit hole of people who love horses, talking horses.

Cristina: And what's their best.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Did they all agree.

Jack: They all agree that the greatest horse in the world is the Arabian. But the videos I was focusing on are other than. Because everybody had the same argument on the Arabian. Okay. So other than the Arabians, who's the next best? And everybody goes to the Turk and.

Cristina: It'S because they're the prettiest they're beautiful.

Jack: They're elegant. They're tall. They're slender. Their performance is great. They're incredibly intelligent or incredibly fast.

Cristina: Do they have contests? Like, you know how in the date. You know how we do with the dogs? And we have contests for dogs.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: And competitions. That's what I mean. You have dog competitions that, you know, test out their ability, how they pay attention, all these different things about the dog or whatever, and they look at their coat and see how good it's kept and etc. Is that picky?

Jack: Yeah, we have contests like that for horse.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess we would have that for everything.

Jack: Yeah. 100 for random.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's probably a cat version of that.

Cristina: Oh, there might be a cat version of that. What?

Jack: Yeah, it's probably.

Cristina: Yes. I just know I've seen a few dog ones.

Jack: Interesting. Man, this is so much crap we don't know about. Crap we don't know anything about anything.

Cristina: There's too much to know.

Jack: There's too much to know.

Cristina: There's too much. You just gotta pick a thing.

Jack: You just gotta know that you can pick many things.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You'll never get everything.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And the more things you pick, the less you'll know about any one specific thing. But everything is infinite.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you could, in theory, dive fully into one thing and know nothing else and never finish about.

Cristina: And there's some people that do that too.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: There are people who are experts in one area and retarded everywhere else, and people who are not even experts, but, like, really proficient in many areas. There are people who are experts in many areas. There are people who suck in a lot of areas, but they know enough about each area to survive.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

Cristina: Mm. But there's just too much to know.

Jack: Too much.

Cristina: No one can ever know anything. Everything about anything.

Jack: No, but they will say everything about everything and. No. Everything about any.

Cristina: Anything.

Jack: Yeah. No, that's right.

Cristina: Like, experts would say that they. They know.

Jack: We know all the. No, you don't know.

Cristina: You don't know.

Jack: You just. You know everything you could. Or that you've thought about figuring out. D***. That's the hard one. Swallow. Like you haven't even thought of all the questions yet. How do you know everything?

Cristina: No, you don't.

Jack: You don't even know what questions you have not answered yet. The best way would be to say, we've answered every question we've asked. Yeah, that's a good way to sell something. We've answered every question we've Ever asked. Now, when somebody asks a question that you did not think of, we broke it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's what happens with math and science all the f****** time.

Cristina: That's. Yeah. That's why, you know, that you can't know about everything.

Jack: Yeah. Because. Especially with math, because science is primarily based on math and math will stumble upon weird s***. And it'd be like, well, this because that. But like, why is this over here going on? It's like, well, we don't know just how it happened.

Cristina: It happens.

Jack: And that's okay. Because most people think math is infallible. Right. And that's like, wrong. There are unsolved math problems, a ton of them just out there, and they might have a solution.

Cristina: Answers are come up, like, I guess problems are solved. That's what I meant.

Jack: Probably not often some of these have stood the test of time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like math problems, just not forever. And we always think, like math. No, that's the most solid thing. It helps us with everything. But can you imagine if we found out there was some part of math we didn't understand that made everything else function? Because we didn't know that we didn't know it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then when we figured out, we're like, f*** every. Everything.

Cristina: We started with math and we learned different things. We haven't added anything recently, but from like 1 to. What is it, 1 to 10 to 0 and then negative numbers and then.

Jack: Well, no, there's things added to math all the time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean, taught in school.

Cristina: But even now there's still things discovered.

Jack: And added to figure out things that you could do with math progressively.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Yeah. That's sort of the problem people think, and they kind of try to convince.

Cristina: Us that it's all solved, that it's.

Jack: All solved and math is infallible. And it's not. It's not. There are problems that have never been solved. And can you imagine if in solving one of those, we realize every other thing that we've ever. Like the world we built in math.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or the world we built around us based on math.

Cristina: Was wrong.

Jack: Was wrong because of some piece we didn't even know to question before.

Cristina: Yes. Do we just pretend that that doesn't exist? Because that's a lot. That's a lot to redo.

Jack: Yeah. Well, we have to do all of everything. Or like, it's worked as long as we. But can you imagine? We find out, well, this is why peace never happened.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, what, it was a math problem.

Cristina: Yeah. But then I guess we would try to solve it.

Jack: Like it's too late now because how far down the decimal points we went, you know? Yeah, like we're here. This is. We should have started this back then, but we only figured it out now. Cuz we're f****** stupid. And built society without understanding.

Cristina: Yeah, math is complicated.

Jack: Why the f*** we don't even know if we can go to. Because we don't know anything. We don't even know if we can go to the center of the ocean where nobody owns it.

Cristina: Every question. Yeah there is to know.

Jack: We don't know if we can make an island in the middle of the f****** ocean.

Cristina: We'll never be able to make an island in the middle ocean.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because that's crazy. That's as crazy as making a city underwater. Like in Bioshock.

Jack: But like, I mean, who says what? I mean it's a logistic nightmare. I understand, but it's not. I doubt it's impossible.

Cristina: I think it's impossible.

Jack: You definitely need compression technology. Well, no. There's facilities underwater.

Cristina: Are there?

Jack: There are.

Cristina: Those are realistic. Yeah.

Jack: I mean not like way in the bottom of the center of the ocean.

Cristina: They make it seem like we're not.

Jack: We're also not gonna have a facility down in the bottom of the ocean. We're gonna just throw crap down there that's gonna compress with the weight of more crap until it gets to the top.

Cristina: Isn't someone gonna complain that we're.

Jack: Who? We're not throwing just like McDonald's wrappings in there.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: It's just we're using dirt and like.

Cristina: We'Re building a thing from another country.

Jack: And on the flip side. Don't be crazy. We decide we're gonna own this. We're gonna build it and we take. We buy all the literal garbage from everywhere. But we need a way to contain it from spreading out. Because we would turn all into the solid that we would use to then put the island in the solving a huge problem. The amount of pollution we would cause with machinery running to build the island though would definitely not compensate for the like we're taking trash and we're causing. Probably causing more pollution than it is we're solving.

Cristina: So won't people complain?

Jack: Nobody can stop us. Why can somebody force like, I don't know, North Korea to have less emissions? No, they do what the they want.

Cristina: But we're not a real country. We.

Jack: As soon as. That's my point. Do we become a real country?

Cristina: But like probably one is done. But if someone tries to stop us.

Jack: Beforehand, who is allowed?

Cristina: I don't know. But, like, if someone does, like, once.

Jack: I'm not in your shores and I'm.

Cristina: Far enough of a country yet because the country's not finished, can't they stop you because you're still part of whatever country you're from?

Jack: How am I part of whatever? Who's stopping me? I mean, once I leave their waters, what jurisdiction do they have? I'm not the property of f****** the United Kingdoms or the United States. I'm not their property. Once I'm out of their thing, I.

Cristina: Don'T tell you it's wrong. Then, like, they'll arrest you if you decide to come back from your island.

Jack: Why do they have the right to tell me it's wrong? I doubt that's accurate. That could not be the case. I doubt it. I believe once I'm out of whatever the radius is.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This is the only thing that makes sense because we would be killing everybody all the time for the most water.

Cristina: For the most water.

Jack: The only way to solve this problem is to say there's a distance from your land and that's it.

Cristina: But they might want to try to stop you from reaching that Disney have.

Jack: Then I will immediately contact the countries that support the treaty because that means somebody else is enforcing some s*** in public water. And now if they can do that means you can.

Cristina: Because you're traveling their water to get to your water. They could stop you from traveling their.

Jack: Water income to their businesses. They're not allowed to do that. No. Because that's an independent country. And so because there's an independent country doing business and doing business with that country and they have legal rights to that water and they can come in and out of that water for work.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then they take that to the middle of the ocean where they're dumping it. And I get this done by all the countries that are willing to help.

Cristina: And build one country. Who would want to help?

Jack: Well, however many of these companies there are, it's not the country itself helping. It's just different companies. I'm hiring from all these different countries.

Cristina: The actual countries aren't happy with what you're doing.

Jack: They can't do anything.

Cristina: They can get those companies in trouble.

Jack: Right. And then the company will help you. But I doubt every single company from every single country, some countries gonna be like, yeah, it's fine. I don't. If they're gonna enforce s*** on the water, then they're trying to look for a fight, because we can all do that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there nobody Wants that heat.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You decide to be the first to enforce what stops every other country in the world from turning on you for disobeying the whole we're not gonna grab all the water treaty.

Cristina: Mm. Okay.

Jack: You know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The moment you say they can't is because you feel you have authority over that water that cannot be claimed.

Cristina: But they're talk. But what if they're just talking about the water that they own, though? They don't want you to go into their water.

Jack: I'm not going into their water.

Cristina: These businesses are right. They're going every fourth from your water to their water.

Jack: The problem that you're seeing here is If I hired 150 companies from 150 different countries, every single one of the 150 countries said no. They all had the same idea. Then they disagreed with each other, which has never happened in the history of ever.

Cristina: No.

Jack: That would be the easiest way to make peace. I should start this project just to establish world peace, because I can get everybody to agree on one thing or more risk. Realistically, there'll be some countries that are like, whatever, do what you want.

Cristina: Okay, so you got to go to that country. Yeah, maybe. I feel like that's more realistic.

Jack: That's way more realistic. I doubt the don't build this island in the middle of uncharted waters movement is not how we establish world peace. But, like, yeah, the argument you're putting forward says that might be possible.

Cristina: No, I think, yeah, some countries will agree.

Jack: Some countries might even not agree, but they're gonna disagree simply because they don't like one of the countries that agreed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's like, no, you can't do it. And it's like, well, we f****** hate you. So he can do it now. What?

Cristina: And he can use all our dirt.

Jack: Yeah, use all our dirt. We'll give you dirt.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know. And then both. Then would they want your island to be part of their island?

Jack: No, because you do all these things. Like, maybe, you know, we want to establish direct trade ports first because, you know, we supported you.

Cristina: Yeah. I imagine this is Russia the only country that decides that they're gonna help you.

Jack: But also, I mean, China's on board, too, for sure.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, those countries are like, yeah, we'll do this, but, you know, I'm down. We get something.

Jack: If Russia wants me to build is down to support me to build an island in the middle of nowhere.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then I'll accept it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Come on, Russia. Come on, China. Let's do this. Let's team up so I can build this island and we can have 30 people shows. They're gonna gain nothing, but their companies will. I guess they do, because that tax comes through their com, through their country.

Cristina: And maybe you have to, like, advertise their countries or something.

Jack: Yeah, I know. Because their products already have, like, watermarks and crap on them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's like. Yeah, your products are in our country, and the buildings that are in here were built by your people. So, you know, Russian buildings in China. I'll let you make them look however you want. It doesn't matter. Yeah, a building, I guess.

Cristina: AIM building.

Jack: Mean by both the Russians and the.

Cristina: Chinese of each leader.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And on every. Everywhere, actually, they just have statues of themselves all over the island.

Jack: It's a small island. There probably only fit two statues in the audience.

Cristina: Oh, okay. And the audience. And what about the other audience?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, all of the. Everything we discussed would fit on that island with a little more room so that at night we don't all drown to death. Also, they're only there on that island for one hour.

Cristina: For one hour. Oh, yeah. Because of the show.

Jack: The show's only an hour.

Cristina: Yeah, it has to be a little longer than an hour.

Jack: I mean, they arrive before and after. Well, we don't have to worry about the people in the outer circle. So it's like when the last of the 30 walks into the inner circle, the show just immediately begins. Yes, that's when the clock starts on the spot.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And as soon as it's over, we just get on the chopper and we're out. We're off to the nearest boat where we board a jet and that takes us away.

Cristina: And then we go on to our other island with the zombies.

Jack: Yes. Yes. Zombie Island.

Cristina: Yeah, that's where we.

Jack: That's part of a country.

Cristina: That's part of country. What country owns that island?

Jack: That's wherever the f*** the UFC Fight island is.

Cristina: The Fight island owns the other island.

Jack: Well, whatever island. Well, Fight island is owned by somebody.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But it's a tiny little country or some s*** like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So Fight island is part of that country, and we are part of whatever that country is. Yeah, I mean, we're there illegally anyways. Who cares?

Cristina: Yeah. I think we took over Fight island and put the zombies there.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And that's how we ended up owning the island.

Jack: Yes. And it's also a castle made of toilet paper.

Cristina: And a theme park.

Jack: And a theme park. Yeah, it's a. Yeah, it's a fort and a theme park.

Cristina: Yep. That's a cool island.

Jack: It's the best island made of all the toilet. Because we know the toilet paper fights the COVID and that's why that island came to be. Because toilet paper fights Covid, and that's.

Cristina: Why we're still alive.

Jack: And that's why we're still alive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's the logic of the world. So I guess that's the way to have this show, really.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We're gonna. We gotta go get all the resources, pay all the companies. We got a lot of paperwork to do.

Cristina: A lot.

Jack: A lot of paperwork. But it's gonna work. It's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna love it.

Cristina: Or you can just go to the park.

Jack: I don't want to pay, and I don't want to ask for permission. I don't have to ask our island permission, and I don't have to pay our island.

Cristina: We go. That's abandoned, and we do it there illegally.

Jack: I'm not breaking the law. Everything I just said was to do it legal. This whole episode is how to do this.

Cristina: Complicated, though.

Jack: Yeah. You rather just break the law instead?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Am I the one who's following the rules this time?

Cristina: Your rules are insane.

Jack: I didn't make the rules. I didn't make any of these rules. We're just trying our best to follow these rules and make an island, I guess.

Cristina: What? The whole island thing is crazy too.

Jack: The island thing is crazy, but the rules that made the island thing crazy are the problem.

Cristina: Like, renting a room would have been a better choice.

Jack: And then we could do it inside. But it was supposed to be outdoors.

Cristina: Yes, well, we could. I changed my mind. Let's do it inside.

Jack: So we're just instead scrapping everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So this episode is essentially like a Family Guy dream episode.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Where they're like, how angry would people get if they found out that none of this is ever gonna happen? Because they were. They were convinced we were about to do this.

Cristina: No, they weren't. Everybody made it into this.

Jack: No, everybody made it through this whole episode. And they're like, well, you know, this is amazing. And I can't wait to be one of the first 30. Or I guess the only 30.

Cristina: It makes the ticket cheaper, though. They don't have to pay a thousand dollars. They wanted. They wanted on some random island.

Jack: No, they wanted the experience of going to the island. They wanted the experience of going to the island for one hour. What a weird story. They're so mad at you right now.

Cristina: For a thousand dollars, I feel like so Much could go wrong. They're just gonna feel like the island is gonna just. Just. I don't know, drown.

Jack: They're just gonna comment that you ruined their hopes and dreams.

Cristina: No, no.

Jack: Yeah. They're gonna be like, oh. Oh, she ruined it. It was gonna be great. I was gonna have a weird story about taking a weird flight to this place.

Cristina: Who's just like, I was gonna survive that.

Jack: What do you mean, survive it?

Cristina: It's just a horrible idea. I don't know. It's a tiny island.

Jack: What?

Cristina: They'll have garbage and there. I don't know.

Jack: It's gonna be the best island. Come on.

Cristina: People would show up their statues like, what if.

Jack: No, it's gonna be.

Cristina: It's in the middle of, like, the ocean.

Jack: It's built by professionals.

Cristina: Super windy. It's probably extra, extra, extra windy because nothing's there.

Jack: It's built by professionals.

Cristina: The water is gonna kill us. The water is so crazy in that part.

Jack: No, we're gonna.

Cristina: Ocean.

Jack: It's not like this tall of buildings. The water isn't going.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it is.

Jack: Then again, we don't really know.

Cristina: Right, exactly.

Jack: Because there's nothing out there.

Cristina: Dangerous area. Like, how are we gonna survive? I don't think we survived.

Jack: No, the water doesn't move like that. That'd be crazy.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: Yeah, we just make enough height and we don't have shows when there's, like, a f****** crazy storm.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're not gonna be traveling there in the middle of a crazy thunderstorm.

Cristina: Like, what if we can't predict the weather there? What if it works like the Bermuda Triangle or whatever?

Jack: That's crazy. What if we build this in the Bermuda Triangle?

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Is that in the shores of. If that. Is that within the f******. Could we do it in the very middle? We're all people with pain.

Cristina: How would we get it done?

Jack: I don't know. Ships would come in and out somehow.

Cristina: They'll die. We'll lose so many people trying to build it.

Jack: The question is, is that still happening in the Bermuda Triangle? Or was that just some s*** we didn't understand? Now we're like, well, though we have the technology to just easily fly over.

Cristina: It, we probably just fly around it.

Jack: You think we just gave up on it? No, that's not like a f******. There's just. There's not a part of the world. We were just like, f*** that patch.

Cristina: Yeah. Why not?

Jack: At the beginning, I'm sure. I know now. There's like, somebody figured it out. Like, oh, obviously it was this Only planes made of these materials can go through, and they won't get pulled down by the giant magnets at the bottom or whatever the f*** is happening, you know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, that area has a specific type of methane gas that destroys engines and then just fails and does not go through it. I mean, they make planes that handle it well, you know, and ships that just floats and made a majority plastic and, like, aluminum.

Cristina: I feel like it's easier for them just to go around it than try to build newer, better planes. Because plane company suck.

Jack: Yeah. Boeing would send people straight through there.

Cristina: And then they die. That's probably gonna happen all the time.

Jack: Both of those planes that crash from Boeing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Enter the Bermuda Triangle. So far away they landed, didn't crash and crash somewhere.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah. But nowhere near the bbut, of course.

Jack: Because we don't know what happens here. They got teleported to where they crashed.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: They were going through the Bermuda Triangle. They blinked out and just hit a mountain or something.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: All facts. All this is true stories for days.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This is a lie anyways. We're running out of time. So now you guys know how we're gonna have the next show. It's gonna be on an island in the middle of what's just conversational.

Cristina: And say it again.

Jack: Just conversation.

Cristina: That's such a hard name to say.

Jack: It's fine. They'll figure it out after I say it.

Cristina: Enough time. Just conversation.

Jack: This conversation. And no.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it's spelled X equal sign and number one.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Yeah. And just as we have this island made, we'll post on, you know, Ticketmaster, you guys can buy your tickets to listen to. We also need to make sure Putin and Z send us their statues to put there. We're gonna have everything in front of the statues.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah, it's gonna be great. You guys are gonna come. We're gonna have 30 people in the inner circle and you can hear the show and then 60, because it's bigger outside.

Cristina: Oh, 60 hours.

Jack: So we'll have 60 on the outer circle. They can't hear anything but can watch you having fun.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Listening to the show.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: That's maybe. Maybe it'll be a special episode. Two hours long. Because a special location.

Cristina: We're gonna have a guest. A special guest that we don't call.

Jack: Them two in one. Alex Gray coming to you on that episode. Alex Gray. Facts. Is gonna have Alex Gray on this random island.

Cristina: Yes. Well, also, we need his wife because he takes her. What do you mean?

Jack: Allie, Alexandria, Alex. Alex, her, she misses. Yeah. The other is gonna show up as well, and she's gonna love it. And Alex is kind of shy, so she'll do most of the talking. Talk to us about his paintings.

Cristina: Yeah, she's gonna talk to us about his paintings. Yeah.

Jack: Tell us about his art and stuff. And. Yeah, facts. This is. This is factually, without a doubt, we're gonna have an island before the. Don't. Don't doubt us. You can hold us to this. We're honest folk.

Cristina: For the next episode.

Jack: For the very next episode. The next time you hear our voices after this episode, it's going to be taking place on an island.

Cristina: Recording that episode.

Jack: Yeah, 100. It's gonna take place on an island. I mean, we could have a private episode and not show it. And only the people who were there.

Cristina: Oh, that's probably better.

Jack: It's probably better. And then they can't hold us to anything. I'm saying.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So factually, only the people who bought the tickets, and we'll see who the most consistent listeners are and only send them the invites. So if you didn't get an invite, you don't hear this show enough because we tracked you through math or whatever people do.

Cristina: Google somehow.

Jack: Yeah, Google somehow supplies that information. They'll tell us we could. If we could realistically probably just buy it. Yeah, like off of Google, Facebook, Facebook. You have a Facebook?

Cristina: Factually, Facebook has.

Jack: They don't even. They have Google's data of how often you listen. They have Apple's data. Apple didn't even give it to them. Google' Facebook is just hacking in the mainframes and stealing data just to sell it. It's a giant crime organization that we're all just okay with.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: It's fire. Anyways. So we're gonna get your data and only to the 30 most often listeners. So, you know, start listening more often or you won't ever know that you didn't get that invite. Go listen to all the older episodes. That's all.

Cristina: We only invite 30 piece. What if not all of them accept?

Jack: Yeah, no, no, no.

Cristina: It'll be like 30 that accept.

Jack: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The first 30 that accept it, we're gonna send it out in the first 30 get in.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

Jack: And you guys can listen to all those episodes that are gonna make you more frequent listeners. This is how you enter. Basically, you listen more. So you enter to win an invite in which you pay us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Fair. So you're gonna get an opportunity to give us money.

Cristina: A thousand dollars.

Jack: Thousand dollars.

Cristina: Which is not much compared to what we're giving you.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Because you're getting island that's arguably worth multiple billions for an hour.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Wow.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And the show you can't put a price on art.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Priceless. You're getting priceless. And whatever the cost of the island are simultaneously so expensive and priceless.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: Oh, value.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: You could listen to all those episodes on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or any way you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tick Tock at just combo pod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe so that you get more episodes you see and leave reviews. That's probably a good way to enter as well, because we know you're listening more often. And not just the review. I mean read it, but review it. Throw words in there, you know, so you put little start thingy, little star, someone 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 12, 15, 30, making multiple accounts and give us different reviews. Do whatever. It's up to you.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We don't care. But do that and also leave reviews.

Cristina: Yeah, that'd be nice.

Jack: Yeah. Words.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is a very important thing for us. Yeah, We. We just told you how the future show is gonna go. You can't hear it because we're gonna record a normal episode that you're gonna hear. But you'll know that maybe you missed.

Cristina: Out on that on that episode.

Jack: But if you tell more people, then we know we were the guy. Yo, Christy. The guy's information we stole using Facebook and they sold it to us when we gave them $10.

Cristina: That guy told like three people.

Jack: Because we can see his whole friends connections through his phone. Yeah, because Facebook on his phone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like we know he's talking to that girl Sandra. And now Sandra tuned in and he was listening and she wasn't listening, which means he told her we got that data. Cuz Facebook. And we'll know that if you told somebody they tuned in and they're your friend. We knew they were your friend before. We're like, how many friends of this guy listen? Not one of them. That one does. Now the odds are he told them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we'll just so see if your friend by chance randomly stumbled upon the show. Actually, unless they googled some s***, which we can trace your friends status too, because Facebook gives us all that stuff.

Cristina: Whoever you message, whether it's about a show or not about it, we're just going to know. I'm just going to know cuz Facebook.

Jack: Anyways, yeah.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Is some language and you heard it like it's common.

Jack: Yeah, I heard a group of people tossing around cuck nug f*** it regularly and then pretending they were angry at one another and joking around.

Cristina: I feel like you would have asked. Why wouldn't you have asked what it meant?

Jack: They were complete strangers. I just heard a group of people talking about cuck nug fuckets.

Cristina: That's not a word.

Jack: You don't know that.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Kug kug nug fug it.

Cristina: No. You could ask Google.

Jack: Google wouldn't know. It might be like a hidden language that Google knows nothing about.

Cristina: Or it's a language that you made up right now.

Jack: I did not make it up. I did not make up Kugnug fugit.

Cristina: Yes you did. Yes you did.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Doesn't sound like anything.

Jack: It's a factual thing. Kugnug fugit.

Cristina: You don't even know the language.

Jack: I don't. Of course not. It was just a bunch of people talking about Kugnug fugitive it.

Cristina: And you can use that in a sentence.

Jack: They were doing it. I don't know how to use it in a sentence. I don't know what it is.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 146: Origins of Batman's Money

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Where does Bruce Wayne get his money? How does Bruce Wayne maintain this money? Does he have companies? What do these companies do? And what is his obsession with bats to begin with? Did a bat assassinate his family and so he ironically dresses like his greatest fear? The duo deep dive to uncover the origin and history of Bruce Wayne’s money and the Batman.

Rambling 146: Origins of Batman's Money

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Thomas Wayne
  • Crime Alley
  • Joker’s Age
  • The Little Mermaid
  • Pinocchio
  • The Search for Souls
  • Frankenstein
  • Mario’s Family
  • Giant Bat
  • The League of Assassins
  • Onlyfans
  • Bruce Wayne’s Thoughts
  • Bat-Powers
  • Batgician
  • Bat-Bots

Our Links:

Official Website - https://greythoughts.info/podcast

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast. The show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childhood. Choice. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes, or at least why?

Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes, so go find your listening partner if you don't have one by now.

Cristina: What happened to your voice?

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: It changed.

Jack: No, it didn't.

Cristina: Yes, it did.

Jack: It's been this way since the day I was born.

Cristina: You just. You just made a Batman voice, I think. I don't know.

Jack: Batman cancer voice.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The Batman cancer I've had. I am fighting crime. But also I decided to do this after having way too many cigarettes. Is that like the story behind this guy?

Cristina: Yeah, he's like, Saul, he's dying from cancer. Lung cancer.

Jack: Yeah, we already had this conversation like in season two or some s***. Then there was like the f******. Because he becomes the bat fleck where he has a robot voice and now I'm a robot or whatever. And it's cuz he. He had. He goes through the whole cancer process. Then he has no vocal cords because of all the cigarettes. I am Batman. Fear me or whatever. Don't do crime or whatever. He says to people. I am the. I am the night. I am the dark.

Cristina: Is he supposed to talk to people? He only talks to the cops. Does he talk to the criminals? I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. But Batman kills, bro. Look, people say his one rule is no murder. But he's like constantly kicking guys off of roofs. They're just like henchmen, bro. They're just guys.

Cristina: I'm sure there's like something on the bottom of every building that just catches all of them.

Jack: I don't know, dude.

Cristina: Batman, he's rich enough. He has something catch them.

Jack: He has like a Jarvis Auto grabbing people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just falling and why is he. What the does Matt was. Whatever. I guess he has a money.

Cristina: He has a ridiculous. He has like infinite amount of money doing. I don't know.

Jack: He's the Queen type of rich.

Cristina: He's the Queen type of rich. Yes, but what's his business?

Jack: He has whatever company Lucius works for that makes tech.

Cristina: He's. He's a tech guy, but he's not A tech.

Jack: Well, he doesn't make the tech, but he owns a tech company and he pays a tech dude to do tech stuff. And I don't. I'm not really sure why.

Cristina: How did his parents. But they were in tech people. They have money and they gave him the business. Then the business transformed into tech.

Jack: They were. Man. I think his parents are criminals. Yeah, but like financial criminals.

Cristina: Probably. But what was their front?

Jack: Like? The front? Yeah. Dude, I don't know. That's interesting.

Cristina: I don't think it was.

Jack: Let's guess without looking it up. Let's. Let's use context clues to put together what we know about Gotham.

Cristina: All I know is that they were rich.

Jack: They were rich?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They were killed leaving, like, a theater or something.

Cristina: Yes. On a street known as, like, dangerous. Yes.

Jack: It was literally Crime Alley. It's like, okay, I am. What? F****** not Bruce Wayne. What the f*** is his dad's name?

Cristina: Bruce Wayne Senior, I guess.

Jack: She telling me Batman is Junior?

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: F*** it. So we got. No, it's. It's Thomas Wayne.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Thomas Wayne is this super mega awesome, duper. Duper genius guy.

Cristina: Is he a genius?

Jack: I don't know. But he was smart enough to be a billionaire. A bajillionaire.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And somehow still had the lapse of judgment to decide it makes perfect sense to walk down Crime Alley at night.

Cristina: You're assuming that some of that money came from crime. Then maybe he thought he was safe to walk on Crime Alley because he's a criminal.

Jack: But they don't. What the. They don't know he's. He's a suit and tie criminal. His is shady background noise.

Cristina: But don't the criminals know that?

Jack: I don't tell me criminals who hang out at Crime Alley just know Thomas Wayne and Martha Wayne.

Cristina: No, they wouldn't know. I don't know.

Jack: They don't know.

Cristina: I don't know. But what is he.

Jack: I don't know. So we know they're already rich.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We know he's smart enough to be a billionaire, but dumb enough to go down Crime Alley. They were like, at a theater or something. We're just picking clues.

Cristina: Right?

Jack: It's either a place, like a play, some sort of play or fancy event thing. Maybe like a. A suit and tie, like dinner thing where a bunch of rich douchebags get together and, like, some of them are criminal. Secretly. Anyways. Like these people.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: And. And yeah, they die there. So I don't know. I don't know what they do. I know they're Rich, filthy rich, super mega duper rich.

Cristina: And they were probably hanging out with criminals though, because then they walk on Crime street, it's normal. Because they're with their friends who are criminals.

Jack: Except they weren't walking around with their friends who are criminals. I don't think they hang out with petty criminals. I think it's all financial. Like big. Like they hang out with kingpins, which means little guys don't know about them.

Cristina: Okay, but what. He's not a doctor, is he?

Jack: No, I don't think he's a doctor.

Cristina: I don't think he's a doctor. He paid a doctor. Right? Or something in one of those movies.

Jack: To do what?

Cristina: To lie about Joker's mom.

Jack: We're using that canon.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean, he still doesn't tell us what the he did.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: He was.

Cristina: He's a businessman.

Jack: He's a busy eye. He's a businessman, question mark.

Cristina: Yes, that's.

Jack: That's his job. Yes. He does business that results in money. He does things that equal money. And that is business.

Cristina: Technically, yes, but what business? It could be anything, man.

Jack: I wonder if it's ever clarified.

Cristina: It has to be. I think maybe not. Maybe Bruce Wayne doesn't even know.

Jack: He's just like, I'm rich. I don't know why I'm rich, but I am rich.

Cristina: And then I'm in a tech company and then they die. That's as far as I know about them, man.

Jack: That's crazy. Maybe. He said he knows they were criminals, right?

Cristina: No, he doesn't. Because they just told him your parents were rich and they died.

Jack: In Joker the movie, the Joker is already quite an adult. He's like 30.

Cristina: He's really.

Jack: Or 40.

Cristina: Sad looking. 20 year old. Really crappy, unhealthy. 20 year old.

Jack: I mean that's pretty bad looking 20 year old man.

Cristina: Yes, let's pretend that that's what's happening.

Jack: But no, he's like 40. 40, 45. How old is Thomas Wayne?

Cristina: Yeah, because if he's his dad, if that's a true story, how old is that guy?

Jack: Dude, I feel that doesn't. I guess Joker should have been like 30. He was playing like a 35 year old.

Cristina: Okay, let's pretend he's. Yeah.

Jack: Which makes Thomas Wayne at 50s, 60s. If he had him at 20, then he would be 55. That makes sense.

Cristina: That's right.

Jack: Let's say that to be 55. If he had the joker at 20 and the joker is 35. Ish.

Cristina: Yeah. And Bruce is like 13.

Jack: Yeah, Bruce was like 13 or some s***. Now the question that I have is, is the Bruce Wayne from that movie the same Bruce Wayne from Gotham and like, is that more canon? Because brute and also like Joker's that much older than f****** Batman, bro. Like, that's a weird story.

Cristina: That is a weird story. I don't know why they made him so young. Or I guess because we're. Or old because he grows up. Joker's gonna be so old. I don't know. He's gonna be so much older than me.

Jack: It doesn't make any sense. He's gonna be like.

Cristina: He'S gonna become the guy from Saw. I don't know.

Jack: Well, okay, so let's say we're gonna be. Because he was clearly not kid was like 10. So f*** it, we'll say he's 10 and the Joker is 35. So Joker holds 25 years on Batman. So when Batman is finally Batman, we'll say Batman is 30, but the Joker has 25 years on him. So he's 55. That's fair. Okay, that's fair.

Cristina: 30. How will we say Batman's 25 in the movie? Or end whatever. Batman. Batman's 25. How old is Joker?

Jack: Batman's 25. The Joker's 50. No, my older brother, the 50 year old Joker.

Cristina: I don't know. I don't know how it works. It's gonna be weird. Batman is an old old dude.

Jack: It's not old. 50 is an old. Especially with the way the Joker. Old is a state of mind.

Cristina: But he looks really bad at whatever age he's supposed to be. He's already dying. He's super thin. He was like creepy sick looking.

Jack: But I'm sure he gets healthier.

Cristina: Like the cartoon Joker become when he becomes his true self.

Jack: Yeah. Now that he's no longer like, he'll.

Cristina: Be a healthier looking man. Yeah.

Jack: He's gonna eat more.

Cristina: He's gonna eat more. He's gonna eat people. He's not a cannibalism. Cannibal, is he?

Jack: He's not cannibalism, though. Cannibalism is an abstract idea and word in the act of eating a human. He. The Joker is not cannibalism, I assure you.

Cristina: Are you positive?

Jack: I am positive. The Joker is not cannibalism. Otherwise the Joker has existed throughout history.

Cristina: Well, what if he has?

Jack: Then the Joker's like Tyler Durden or some s***.

Cristina: Yeah. Isn't he?

Jack: That would prove way more that he's inside Batman's head. Yes, because it's Just a concept. There's no Joker. It's just Batman arguing. Batman sets up crime.

Cristina: Yes. This whole movie of Joker's beginning was just Batman having a dream about Joker's beginning.

Jack: Why would Batman even question where he came from? It's so interesting. I wonder. Like, there's too many iterations of that. Like the whole ability that comic book series have to reinvent the beginnings, like origin stories completely change. Usually if. Let's say you take a book. Right.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And the book becomes popular and then you make a movie from the book and the movie is only based on the book and you change the beginning and you change the ending. And, like, the origin is different and the ending is different. People will lose their f****** s***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You do that to a comic book, nobody gives a.

Cristina: Because no one's read the comic book. Well, I guess now everyone. I don't know. I don't know.

Jack: No, because comic book people are already used to the consistent change. New origin, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Cristina: Doesn't matter. Yeah.

Jack: Book people are snobby douchebags who think they're better than the rest of society.

Cristina: Oh, comic book people.

Jack: And like, I'm a book person, but I snobby. No. Because I understand that this is somebody's vision. What the f*** does my opinion have to do with somebody else's creativity?

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: The same. My Little Mermaid. F****** don't watch it then.

Cristina: Yeah. You're probably too old to be watching that anyway.

Jack: There's probably a bunch of, like, older dudes.

Cristina: I don't. Yes.

Jack: This ain't My Little Mermaid. Because you wanted to, like, jerk off to a f****** half fish white girl and now she's black and you're like, well, I'm a racist. I can't jerk off to a half fish black girl. That's nasty.

Cristina: It's weird. The original Little Mermaid had a description besides being a little girl.

Jack: Right. Because she's like 12.

Cristina: She's super young.

Jack: Yeah. Meanwhile, like, I don't know, these 55 year old guys over here jerking off the fish girl.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: I don't know. This is America. Don't catch you slipping up. Because the pedos be jerking up. No, that's how they do it.

Cristina: Talking about Batman was way better than talking about what's happening with Little Mermaid.

Jack: Jerking off the Little Mermaid?

Cristina: No. Ah, that's so horrible. Well, you know what? She dies and she becomes an angel.

Jack: That happens.

Cristina: Yes. Or maybe not an angel. She becomes a flying spirit creature. I don't know. It doesn't say specifically what she is, but they exist in the sky. And if after 200 years or something, she could become a human.

Jack: What?

Cristina: Yes. I don't know. The com. The ending is a little complicated.

Jack: Wait, this is real?

Cristina: Yes. From the story? The written story.

Jack: You've read the Little Mermaid?

Cristina: Yes. It's ridiculous.

Jack: Wait, the movie is based on the book? Or is the book based on a movie?

Cristina: The book came first.

Jack: Really? For, like, factually, you know this to be true?

Cristina: Pretty sure. 80% sure.

Jack: Got you.

Cristina: Is pretty. Pretty sure. This is the book came first.

Jack: And then she becomes like a bird girl.

Cristina: Yeah. Some kind of flying creature thing. And some flying creature things. Say, like, you can. You could be here for 200 years, like this creature, and then you could become a human. Because her whole goal is to have a human soul. That's. What's the goal? Human soul.

Jack: So to clarify.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There are a lot of crossing lines between the Little Mermaid and Pinochlo.

Cristina: That's not his name. No. Is that his name?

Jack: Pinocchio.

Cristina: Why isn't it Pinocchio?

Jack: Go ahead and spell his name out for me.

Cristina: No, I know how it's spelled, but Pinocchio.

Jack: Why would it be Pinocchio? There's a CH in there.

Cristina: No, it's. It's silent. The H is silent, I hope.

Jack: Is it. Is it an H? It's Pinocchio. Right?

Cristina: Yeah. No, that's how it's spelled. Yeah, Pinocchio.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense. Broken a** English.

Cristina: I don't know if it's English.

Jack: It could be Italian. Was Geppetto Italian? Because there's also two Cs in his name, right?

Cristina: Geppetto? I have no idea.

Jack: Pinocchio. Or is it two Cs?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Is it Pinocchio? No, it's still. It's still the same.

Cristina: No, it's Pinocchio.

Jack: Whether It's Ch or two Cs, it's Pinocchio.

Cristina: Okay, what about Pinocchio? What about Pinocchio?

Jack: Oh, yeah, Pinocchio. Pinocchio is trying to get a real soul. Just like Little Mermaid. They're both, like, trying to get souls, except one is a weird haunted puppet thing and the other one is a siren story.

Cristina: I'm sure it's creepy, but her story. Yeah, they live. Mermaids live a super long time, like 200 years or whatever. And then they turn into seafoam, and then they live like that forever.

Jack: Whoa.

Cristina: So I guess that's why.

Jack: Unless they get a soul.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they're sirens. She's a siren, bro. Little Mermaid is a siren.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: She's not a mermaid. There's no mermaids. They're sirens. They're trying to, like, suck a soul out.

Cristina: Well, they don't. Their goal isn't to suck us all out. That's just hers.

Jack: How you gonna get a soul, specifically? She has to kill somebody, right?

Cristina: Yeah. She was supposed to kill the person.

Jack: She loved to get their soul?

Cristina: No, to. I don't remember the story. Oh, man, I'm forgetting. Yeah, I guess to get her back her tail. Actually, I think it was because she messed up. She was supposed to make him fall in love with her, and she fell.

Jack: In love with him.

Cristina: Well, she. Yeah, she already loved him. And she was supposed to make him fall in love with her to become human, but that didn't work out. He fell in love with someone else who he thought saved his life, which it was really her.

Jack: But why does having your life saved equal falling in love?

Cristina: I don't know. He just did. He just automatically was like, I'm in love with.

Jack: But, like, her plan was, I saved him so he'll fall in love with me.

Cristina: But he doesn't know that she saved him.

Jack: No. Well, this is my point. In this world, for whatever reason, everybody concludes life saving equals falling in love. The Little Mermaid was like, I'll save his life. He'll fall in love.

Cristina: No, I don't think that was her. She. When she saved him, she just, out of love, saved him. It wasn't out of, like.

Jack: It wasn't like, he'll. He'll know. Fall in love. And then he's like, she saves me. I' ma fall in love.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And it's like, everybody, for whatever reason, equates being saved with falling in love.

Cristina: No, I don't think so. Well, just him for him, I guess.

Jack: So the Little Mermaid didn't. Didn't do that.

Cristina: No. And she was much younger than him. I think he saw her as his little sister. And he was going to. He was going to marry her. But he's like, oh, but if I see this other girl who saved me, I will marry her instead. And he did that. So she was so close, I guess. Oh, but she couldn't talk. That's also a big problem. They took away her voice, and every time she walks, it feels like she's stepping on glass.

Jack: What the f***?

Cristina: Yes. And she dances a lot because she can't vocalize, so she dances instead. So her feet are all bloody. I don't know if anyone even noticed her feet. No. One complains or are concerned. Yes.

Jack: Is there a trail of blood?

Cristina: I think so. I don't know.

Jack: Does it feel? Or is it like she's really being stabbed by invisible glass? It only stabs her.

Cristina: I'm not sure.

Jack: Because it could just feel like.

Cristina: It could just feel like it. I feel like they described blood, though. But maybe she has it covered up in something, like, so like a bandage or something.

Jack: Or it's in her head.

Cristina: Or it's in her head. Yeah. No one notices.

Jack: Like she's just metaphorically seeing trails of blood.

Cristina: Yeah, could be.

Jack: Yes, the blood. So I don't know. She sounds kind of like a siren anyways. She's trying to get a soul.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: She wants a human soul.

Cristina: So that she can die.

Jack: So she can live.

Cristina: No, die.

Jack: You need a human. What?

Cristina: Because if you become. If you're a mermaid and you become foam, you stay a foam forever. You're alive forever as a foam.

Jack: What the f*** is the difference between being foam and being dead?

Cristina: You wait. With the human soul. You get to heaven, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: The soul goes to heaven. Yeah, you don't.

Cristina: But you don't stay as a foam forever. You die. You get to die.

Jack: Isn't foam them dying?

Cristina: No, because they still there. They're still there as foam.

Jack: Like their atoms are. But are they, like, consciously.

Cristina: They might be consciously foam.

Jack: So you could talk to this foam.

Cristina: Probably, and it's like, please kill me.

Jack: But you can't because I'm everywhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Spread out evenly across us.

Cristina: Yep. So, yeah, interesting.

Jack: Reminds me of the flaming bush.

Cristina: The flaming bush?

Jack: Yeah. Like, if you tried to kill the flaming bush, you wouldn't do anything. You could throw some water on it.

Cristina: But, like, what flaming bush are you talking about?

Jack: The f****** one that Moses spoke to.

Cristina: Oh, wasn't Moses. Why are you trying to throw out. I mean, push it. What?

Jack: I don't know. It's like a. It's like a weird energy thing you can talk to but isn't, like, really there.

Cristina: How do you know it's not there?

Jack: I mean, how do you know the foam is there or isn't there? When you talk to the foam or when you talk to the fire, it's like, yeah, Imma kill you, so I'm gonna stab you or something. It's like, well, it didn't do anything. Stab the fire.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess fire's fine, I guess. Yeah.

Jack: You can't kill it.

Cristina: You can't kill fire water on it.

Jack: But it wasn't like hot Fire either. It's just like, weird fire. Like the foam, I guess you could put it in, like a vacuum or something, suck up the foam, but you.

Cristina: Still don't get rid of it.

Jack: Could you mix two different foams together and make one foam mermaid thing?

Cristina: I don't think so. It's probably all jumbled up foam of different.

Jack: Yeah. So it's like death. Or not death.

Cristina: Whatever. Yeah.

Jack: Weird mermaid body thing.

Cristina: Yeah. Wants to be foam forever.

Jack: Mermaid foam. And that's why Batman is what he is.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because Pinocchio.

Cristina: Pinocchio.

Jack: Pinocchio and the Little Mermaid. What's her name? Ariella. Arielle.

Cristina: Ariel.

Jack: Ariella. Her name is Ariola.

Cristina: No, Ariel.

Jack: Ariola. So Pinocchio and Ariola are both trying to get a human soul, along with Chucky and all the other sirens.

Cristina: Well, Pinocchio wants to be a real boy, not just have a soul.

Jack: What is the difference?

Cristina: He wants bones.

Jack: He wants fleshiness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I am wood.

Cristina: He wants stronger, the meaty parts. She wants the spiritual.

Jack: But he wants to be a real boy. That includes the soul. That's right.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. That is part of it, actually.

Jack: Yeah. Part of his equation.

Cristina: Yeah. That would suck if they just give him somebody. Yeah.

Jack: You got, like, a body, but, like. Look, we're gonna. Pinocchio, we figured it out. Here's you. We're gonna do some kind of alchemy thing. We're gonna move you over there, but when you're over there, you'll be conscious and stuff. But, like, the body's not going to move because we don't know how to. How to make a soul. You know, like, the part that powers the body, that's not going to be there. So you can have a body to be real.

Cristina: Maybe it's like Frankenstein. What happened to him? He didn't have a soul.

Jack: That's weird. Frankenstein is like a f******.

Cristina: Or did he have a soul that was like pieces of the people he was made of?

Jack: He's. In the case of Frankenstein, we're assuming science is right and the soul is just not a thing.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: At least not the ethereal soul.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Soul is like a collection of his consciousness.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if you're aware, then boom. Soul.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like. So we're assuming science is correct there, but it's possible that Frankenstein is a homunculus. He's like a creature brought back to life without us all. If a soul is real.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Frankenstein might not have one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or I guess the monster. Because Frankenstein is the doctor.

Cristina: The monster. The monster is Frankenstein Junior. Okay.

Jack: We call him Frankenstein. We should call him. It doesn't. Like it's Frankenstein's monster named Frankenstein from this day forward.

Cristina: What happened?

Jack: It's Frankenstein's monster that we will call Frankenstein forever. Yeah, because this makes sense to keep like the month. No, it's whatever, dude.

Cristina: We know Frankenstein junior.

Jack: No, it's not.

Cristina: Yes, it is.

Jack: Frankenstein is his last name. So his name was like Jimmy Frankenstein or something.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. Then I guess his name should be Frankenstein Gonzalez Frankenstein. Why would his last. His first name is the last name.

Jack: No, there's people named Gonzalez.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Oh, his name is Joselito Frankenstein.

Cristina: The doctor you talking about? Okay, okay.

Jack: He was born Joselito Frankenstein.

Cristina: Are you sure it's not Frankenstein Frankenstein?

Jack: I mean, what, like Mario Mario?

Cristina: Yes, his name is Frankenstein Frankenstein and his son is Frankenstein Frankenstein junior.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: That sounds right.

Jack: Do Mario and Wario share parents?

Cristina: No, I don't think so.

Jack: Are they on same on the father's side or the mother's side?

Cristina: They're not related.

Jack: They're cousins.

Cristina: Who?

Jack: Wario and Mario.

Cristina: They're cousins.

Jack: They're cousins.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I had no idea.

Jack: Yeah. And like, is Wario's like father the brother of Mario's father, and thus it's Wario, Mario and Luigi Mario and Mario Mario. Or is it like Wario's mom is different and there's a result.

Cristina: I hope they're all last name is Mario. That would mean their fathers are brothers.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yes. Awesome.

Jack: But like, we don't crap about their parents.

Cristina: Is the other one related to Waluigi? Yeah, whatever his name is.

Jack: I should have just called him Lario the way people thought he was named.

Cristina: What is it?

Jack: Lario.

Cristina: Lario. That's why I thought Wario Lario Waluigi.

Jack: La Luigi Waluigi Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi.

Cristina: So wrong. So wrong.

Jack: Should have just been Lario, bro. Yeah, Wario. No. How do you say. How do you get it to sound like Luigi Luigi Luigi Muigi Ruigi, Ruigi.

Cristina: Juigi sounds Maybe not. Oh, Luigi's a hard one.

Jack: Batman has to get rid of all these people.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because we still don't know what the f*** Thomas Wayne did.

Cristina: I understand how Thomas Wayne has to do with these people.

Jack: Pinocchio wants a soul and a real body.

Cristina: He wants a lot of stuff Areola wants. We put him into the Frankenstein body.

Jack: Yeah. What? Just put. What? You just put a wooden body inside of it? Yeah, he's already chopped up. It's easy. Cut one of those stitches open Dig a hole, put. You could. I mean, I guess you could make like a transformer made of me or some. Not a transformer, but like a. Like a robot.

Cristina: Let's just strap him on his body. There's just two people, but we just pretend it's one.

Jack: No, I'm thinking like, you could make this work. You can shove the entire body of Pinocho inside of the Frankenstein body and try to jump start it as one. So they somehow the consciousness is fused.

Cristina: And Little Mermaid has to go in there somehow.

Jack: Well, no, because Little Mermaid and Pinocchio. Areola and Pinocchio are both looking for a soul.

Cristina: Well, maybe with this weird thing we're making.

Jack: Thomas Wayne has the money for the soul. That's. That's his purpose here.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: We don't know. Well, I guess Bruce Wayne, because Thomas Wayne died going down f****** Crime Alley, of all places. Like you went down.

Cristina: It was named after it cannot.

Jack: There's no way. Dude, why.

Cristina: Why would it be Crime? Why?

Jack: Because he's a f****** idiot.

Cristina: Maybe it wasn't. Are you sure you think his death.

Jack: Made it Crime Alley?

Cristina: Yes, it's a huge crime for the whole city because he was an important man.

Jack: How is he important?

Cristina: I don't know. Because he's rich and he was helping the city. Like his son, who's rich and is helping the city somehow.

Jack: Does Batman help the city any way other than dressing up like a freaking.

Cristina: I mean, Bruce Wayne, not Batman.

Jack: Here's the man. This is so crazy. Batman's crazy.

Cristina: Yes, but Bruce Wayne, though, is helping the city with his money. I think.

Jack: Probably. But like, I'm over that. I'm more amazed by the fact that this dude dresses up like a giant bat.

Cristina: He does not dress like a giant bat. There's no bat that you've ever seen that look like that.

Jack: Well, that's what I'm saying. He dresses like a giant. Well, then what the f*** is he dressing like?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: He calls himself Batman. But he doesn't.

Cristina: But that's not a bat suit.

Jack: No, it's like a. He looks like the Mothman sort of. Right? Maybe.

Cristina: I don't know. It reminds me of an umbrella.

Jack: By the way, that movie is creepy. The Mothman prophecy, huh?

Cristina: Is the Mothman in it?

Jack: Yeah, you don't really. It's. It's like a psychological.

Cristina: You said Nicolas Cage was in that one. Or am I confusing that somewhere with something else?

Jack: No, it's Richard Gere.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Probably did not see that.

Jack: Great movie, though. Mothman prophecy. And Blair Witch Project are two old movies that you don't see the bad guy necessarily. You hear about them a lot.

Cristina: Mothman, the bad guy.

Jack: It's an arc. It's hard to say there's a bad guy. There's more of weird s*** happens and you don't know how to explain it. And it's eerie and.

Cristina: And you know something bad is gonna happen.

Jack: Yeah. Some lady told the. Like, she could tell the future based on a dream and it didn't happen. Or that happened often. Like, people would have premonition or something of something bad. You know, like moths do or whatever people superstitions about moths have and s***.

Cristina: Okay. But they would see this Mothman and then that's. The premonition will happen.

Jack: Yeah, I. Something would always. Something bad would always follow seeing the Mothman.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So people thought you. You know, you saw.

Cristina: I don't think he's Batman, though.

Jack: The Mothman might be Batman.

Cristina: I think he's. Don't people think he's an alien?

Jack: The Mothman's an alien?

Cristina: Yeah. Why do you think I think that's what people think he is. He's an alien.

Jack: Could be. I mean, but everybody thinks everything's an alien. People think Bigfoot's an alien.

Cristina: Bigfoot might be an alien. Yes, Everything is an alien. Okay. Which in. In a way. We also talked about how everything was a fairy. So maybe Bigfoot is a fairy and so is Mothman.

Jack: And maybe fairies are just aliens that came before us. Yeah. Yes, it's quite possible.

Cristina: Aliens came. We saw them as fairies. No, they were gods first.

Jack: We kept demoting them as we saw that they weren't, like, infinitely powerful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Until they have power we don't understand. So they equal God. And then it's like, wait, but he doesn't know what's in my head. So he doesn't know everything.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you know, the more you demigod now and then they're like, but like, another guy can kill you. Just like a thing with powers at this point.

Cristina: Now you're a fairy.

Jack: Now you're a fairy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just kept getting demoted. Eventually. This is your f****** different type of thing. But you're like me.

Cristina: And then you became an alien in the end.

Jack: Yeah. Science bred you. The end. It went all the way until the magic was gone and it was just science. You just evolved like the rest of us. And eventually we'll be there, and then.

Cristina: So did we just end up like. Is that what it was in the beginning, though? Was it a science? Was it an alien? First and then we thought it was magic. But then we realized the truth. Like it is an alien.

Jack: Could be like, I don't know. Maybe it's possible. That being said, that was Thomas wayne's job. Area 51.

Cristina: Area 50. How do you become a billionaire with Area 51?

Jack: Money. They pay you. The government.

Cristina: All those weapons involved, I guess, of mass destruction.

Jack: Alien weapons of mass destruction. Planet destroying weapons. We confiscated the weapons from all the aliens that we caught somehow.

Cristina: Is Gotham anywhere near that area?

Jack: Gotham is New York City. So no.

Cristina: No. Okay, so how. No, I don't think so.

Jack: That's weird, right? Because Metropolis is like Los Angeles or some s***. Then Gotham is New York.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Bludhaven is like Newark. You know, it's based on real s***. But then Marvel is just in real place. Like Spider man is just from Queens.

Cristina: Yeah, they're all like that in Marvel.

Jack: Yeah, everybody's from somewhere real.

Cristina: Which came first, Marvel or dc?

Jack: Good question. I would say dc, maybe. It's probably Superman.

Cristina: Oh, okay. And they decided to pick fictional places first.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What a bad decision.

Jack: I do, on the other hand, think the Green Hornet came before all of them.

Cristina: What is he, dc?

Jack: I don't think he's either. He's his own. Oh, Green Hornet comics. I don't know.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He comes from a thing where stuff happens. There are superheroes and people who dress up. He was a detective.

Cristina: He's a detective. That's really boring.

Jack: Yeah, well, Batman's detecting isn't that boring.

Cristina: Because he's not just a detective. He also beats people up.

Jack: He murders people, kicks them off of buildings.

Cristina: He doesn't murder him. He has technology that picks up people from falling to their deaths, I guess. And when he break someone's neck, he also has technology to fix those necks, I'm assuming.

Jack: So he saves the dead. He has an army of zombies out there. Don't even realize.

Cristina: Yeah, they don't. As long as they continue living like everything's normal. Everything's normal. Until one day someone bites someone and then.

Jack: Why would it. I don't think it's contagious like that. It's just dead people who he brought back to life with science.

Cristina: Yeah. Isn't there a dead person in that? Like a villain?

Jack: Yeah. His name is Dumesay. No, Solomon Grundy.

Cristina: There you go.

Jack: Yeah, he's a zombie.

Cristina: Did Batman bring him back to life?

Jack: I think Ra's Algol did it.

Cristina: Oh, well, Batman has that technology. Isn't he friends with Roz?

Jack: I think he's a member of the F****** League of Assassins or some s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He might know that he's supposed to marry Falia.

Cristina: Falia?

Jack: Yeah, Ra's his daughter.

Cristina: Oh, he never does, but that is.

Jack: I know. I think he. At some point. I'm not sure, maybe at some point. I do think maybe some reality, some version of this to get married.

Cristina: Okay. But he gets the power to bring people back to death through him. So there you go.

Jack: Back to death for days.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: So he murders people with his power.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why can't I just eat them to death?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: That's power to bring people back to death.

Cristina: And he wastes it all the time. Maybe he tries not to murder them, but it happens.

Jack: Powers are too strong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He has to fight his powers.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He needs Xavier to help him control murdering people.

Cristina: Who's Xavier? Oh, from X Men.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He can't do that, though.

Jack: My powers of just murdering people are out of control.

Cristina: Yeah. So he has that power. And he probably shares it with Superman. Because I'm sure Superman by accident, always is killing people.

Jack: Superman is like the Avengers, bro. They level a city in the middle of a fight. And it's like you killed more people than you were trying to save. Should have just let that alien take over.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, super. But Superman, by accident, is destroying a city. He. Like, how does he control anything?

Jack: That's a good question. Because, like, how does he not laser beam a building in half?

Cristina: Yeah, I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. It's nuts.

Cristina: He has that thing. He can bring people back.

Jack: What thing? Like, just his power of.

Cristina: No, he has Batman's thing. Batman gives it to him, too. Whatever that power is.

Jack: You said the power to bring people to death.

Cristina: To life.

Jack: But you said to death.

Cristina: I didn't mean to. That. To life.

Jack: The power of his ability to murder effectively while trying not to.

Cristina: Yes, but no. From Roz. Roz? Yes.

Jack: What the f*** did Roz do beforehand? What does anybody in this world do? Okay, so everybody's a criminal with Bruce Wayne. And Bruce Wayne's earned his money from a bunch of criminals. But criminals do. Did what? Money laundering.

Cristina: All of them did money laundering. I don't know.

Jack: Don't they rob banks like Two Face does? Yeah, I mean, I guess a penguin does, too. A lot of them do. So does the Joker. There's a lot of bank robbing. Why does. Why are there banks?

Cristina: Robbing banks?

Jack: Why are there banks in Gotham?

Cristina: No, because there's, like, so much criminals. So are they just stealing each other's money?

Jack: Right. Because that bank is probably owned by criminal.

Cristina: Yeah. So no. What?

Jack: And how did Gotham get so bad? They had to like enclose it and not like like now this is a prison. The whole city, the whole city now is a prison.

Cristina: I don't know. Batman fever.

Jack: And how do criminals not easily just leave Gotham? Like, yeah, they close it up. But there's like water.

Cristina: There's water. I don't know.

Jack: They use the water to get out.

Cristina: Because they don't want to leave. They love the place. The place turns them into criminals.

Jack: So why isn't Batman a criminal?

Cristina: He is a criminal.

Jack: He's the most criminal criminal. He's murdering people.

Cristina: Murdering people all the time. Yes. So there you go.

Jack: What does f****** Thomas Lane do? There's no f****** clues, man.

Cristina: He is. He.

Jack: Alfred has always been there.

Cristina: So he would know.

Jack: He would know.

Cristina: I don't know. He's like those elves that he gathered a bunch of socks and money happy.

Jack: Steal underwear, something Than money.

Cristina: Steal underwear.

Jack: Yeah. That was soft gnomes.

Cristina: Oh. Oh yeah. That's what they're called. Yes. Maybe that's how he made his fortune.

Jack: Steal underwear, something Money.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Obviously the middle part is Sell it.

Cristina: No. I don't know. Because there's no way he would have been a billionaire if he just sold it.

Jack: Maybe he wasn't selling his own, but he had a bunch of hookers. Or not hookers, but like a bunch of females who'd. Yeah.

Cristina: Their underwear.

Jack: Like he started a Only Fans ring with a bunch of women that would randomly perform for his Only Fans channel. And he would get money from them. But then he'd also sell everything they wore in all of them for dirty other guys to buy. And he built his fortune. Only fans.

Cristina: I don't know. Can you build your fortune off of OnlyFans?

Jack: Maybe. Depends how many underwear maybe. Depends how many people are watching. I bet his Onlyfans is the best Only fans.

Cristina: It is the best Only fans.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I don't know. That can't be right.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: I don't know. But I checked it anyway and he's a doctor.

Jack: I guess he did not become a billionaire being a doctor though.

Cristina: No. He got it from his father being a doctor. His dad wasn't a doctor. His doctor. His dad wasn't. I don't know what his dad was a business guy. He did business things.

Jack: Business. So sad. We're back where we started. It wasn't Thomas Wayne who was the business guy.

Cristina: No.

Jack: He was a doctor who inherited business guy money.

Cristina: Yes. And then he also invested vested that Business guy, money into businesses.

Jack: Maybe his dad was an investor.

Cristina: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Of technology. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: But that's f****** holes for days because Batman is like 80s so. Well if his father.

Cristina: Ancient technology.

Jack: We're talking like pretty old technology. We're talking like his, his father probably owned a pretty substantial cornfield where he employed black people for really long technology. Like that's how long ago we're talking.

Cristina: And they call that technology? I don't know.

Jack: I don't know man. Old west type of s***.

Cristina: I don't know. Windmills, he early 1900s.

Jack: Windmills create electricity. Not even create electricity, but you know, power places.

Cristina: Yeah, that's technology.

Jack: That's anything is technology.

Cristina: There you go.

Jack: Yeah, glasses are technology. Glasses, Glasses are technology. Oh, it's not electric technology.

Cristina: Yeah, well maybe he was a glasses person, I don't know. But yeah. So the dad of the dad is a business person.

Jack: Maybe he inherited his business money from his dad who was the business guy.

Cristina: No way. Yes.

Jack: Maybe it's a long lineage of. We don't know where this came from, but we all have had it.

Cristina: Yes, but Wayne's dad didn't make the billions from the money he, he was given.

Jack: So Wayne's dad wasn't a billionaire, he just inherited a lot of money.

Cristina: He inherit.

Jack: Yeah, but not billions.

Cristina: No, he turned it into billions.

Jack: And then Bruce Wayne did more with it and made more. Mega billion. Trillion.

Cristina: Google, don't they call him a billionaire? So he didn't do much.

Jack: Okay, what if he inherited like 3 billion? But now he has 300 billion.

Cristina: He's still a billionaire.

Jack: He did a lot.

Cristina: Okay, yeah. Oh, they don't tell us. So how are we supposed to know?

Jack: And there's another thing. I was a while ago checking out the whole rich thing, right, so you could be like a millionaire. You could have $3 million and you're still just a millionaire. But you have to pass the 10 million dollar mark to be a multi millionaire.

Cristina: Oh, then is he a multi billionaire?

Jack: Probably. But my point is like isn't 2 million already multi? Like how are we, where are we drawing the line here and why?

Cristina: I don't know, you have to.

Jack: I don't know why we decided 10. I don't know, just 10. You gotta have more than 10 and then it's multi. So if we go backwards, right?

Jack: There's billion and like you're multi billionaire. You go down, you're multi millionaire and you get to the hundred thousand. You're a multi what?

Cristina: Thousandaire.

Jack: You're thousandaire why don't we say people are thousandaire?

Cristina: Because that's sad. I don't know.

Jack: It probably made sense a long time ago.

Cristina: Thousand.

Jack: He's a thousandaire.

Cristina: No, they would just say he's middle class.

Jack: In like 1800s.

Cristina: Yeah. What did they say that?

Jack: No, that's way upper class. Thousands. A hundred thousand in the 1800s.

Cristina: Million in the upper class back then.

Jack: This is what I mean. You're not middle class back then. A hundred thousand made you upper class. You were rich. So why weren't you like a thousandaire? You thousandaire? No, he's rich.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess.

Jack: You're rich, you are poor.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You are in poverty.

Cristina: Is that the same?

Jack: I guess. I don't know. People use them differently. You are lower class, you are middle class. You are upper middle class. You are upper class, you are rich, you are millionaire, you are billionaire, you are trillionaire, so on, so forth. The only trillionaire, I believe, are the mega criminals. And the Queen.

Cristina: Yes, she. Yeah. And Batman, probably.

Jack: And Batman, who runs the greatest only fans of all time.

Cristina: We don't know if Batman is the Queen.

Jack: What if Batman is the creator of Onlyfans and he profits off of everybody's sale of their body? And so Bruce Wayne's biggest contribution to the world is OnlyFans. And also his most price earning, like his most financial earner, is also onlyfans because p*** sells.

Cristina: Yes. But does he look like a bat? I'm still confused by that look. Like the bat symbol. But you've never seen a bat that looks like that.

Jack: No, he's some kind of other thing. But also, the flip here is Pinocchio wants to be a real boy.

Cristina: Yes. And we're stuffing him into Frankenstein.

Jack: And we're stuffing him into Frankenstein. Arreola.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Wants to be real girl.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Or she wants, like, a human soul.

Cristina: Yes. And we gotta feed her a heart.

Jack: Bruce Wayne wants to. Yes, definitely. That's totally how that works. Like, really, sirens just rip out hearts or whatever. And Bruce Wayne wants to be a real bat, except he has no concept of what a bat really is.

Cristina: He has, like a child's drawing of a bat.

Jack: Well, no. He has that one vivid, vivid, way incoherent, single thought of bats. Of bats.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, that's flying. But no one sees that.

Jack: Except him.

Cristina: Except him.

Jack: He modeled the bat. He is after these fictional bats.

Cristina: In his head he say, I am Batman. Or did someone say, hey, that's that guy. We should call him Batman.

Jack: I am the dark, I am the night.

Cristina: Like his symbol. You can say is a bat symbol. But I'm not. I'm saying it's not a bat.

Jack: It is a bat. The bat, when it spreads its wings, kind of looks like that.

Cristina: Okay. I don't know. But it could be anything.

Jack: That's a bat.

Cristina: Is it that it's a bat. Mmm. Whatever. And he only thinks about bats.

Jack: He only thinks about bats. The Joker proves this by putting a machine on Batman.

Cristina: That was the Joker?

Jack: No, it was Riddler. The Riddler tricked Bruce Wayne. Who's. You're so. Also man. You guys are just real mega geniuses who just super stupid at the same time. Your dad died going down crime alley. You, Batman, with a secret of being Batman, show up here as Bruce Wayne, your alter ego, and you go into a machine meant to read your f****** mind. And all that machine sees is bats. Maybe, maybe.

Cristina: Like did he think that that's what the machine. That wasn't what he was told.

Jack: I think so. I think he knew exactly what the machine did.

Cristina: No, I think that it was supposed to put you in dreams or something. It was something supposed to show you.

Jack: Your dreams or something.

Cristina: Or something. Yeah. And it's like, bro, you should know your dreams are bats.

Jack: Not just like, how do you know it's not gonna show them that you're Batman?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: And like, you got lucky that it for whatever reason, all it did was show them a bunch of f****** bats. Out of context.

Cristina: Like, who would not look at that and be like, that's gotta be Batman.

Jack: Like, look, there's a f****** guy out there who dresses like he doesn't look like a bat. But look, he dresses and calls himself a Batman. He only comes out at night. He's always in black. And f****** Bruce Wayne only sees bats in his. There's no other thought.

Cristina: It's zero so insane. If he wasn't Batman.

Jack: Yes, that's my point. Like, would. You're a f****** idiot for jumping in that machine. Yeah, like, how much crazier are you than Batman if Batman dresses up like a bat, goes around kicking people off buildings saying he's justice and claiming he's the night.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you're the one who only thinks of bats. No other thought. You go around your day about your day with just.

Cristina: Just plagued.

Jack: Yeah, just bats in the Just plague. Just plagued by thoughts of bats at all times.

Cristina: Maybe Bruce Wayne could say, like, I recently got beat up by Batman or something.

Jack: Now I'm just always.

Cristina: Now I'm scarred by bats. He's just lying. He should have lied and Made Batman look like the bad guy.

Jack: Also. Okay, this is a weird one, right? Because Batman doesn't have any powers.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But some versions of Batman, he does. No.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Like, there's Pats. Wherever the f*** he goes.

Cristina: There's what?

Jack: Bats? And it's like, do you. Do you have a power, bro? Do you talk to bats?

Cristina: I don't. He probably just list them out.

Jack: Are they hidden in his suit, like a magic trick?

Cristina: Yeah, just. He's got. Yeah, he's a magician. He got the trick from that guy you said. I always forget his name.

Jack: Joker.

Cristina: Whatever. Yes.

Jack: Seriously. Here's a bat.

Cristina: Yes. He will. Teach him that, right? He's magical. I don't even know. I feel like he sounds magical.

Jack: Have. I don't know.

Cristina: He showed him the tricks of bringing people back to life and just bats, I guess.

Jack: Man. I don't know what the deal with that is. He'll be, like, fighting, and then bats show up. Or he's gonna disappear in a swarm of bats, show up, and surround him. And then the bats spread out, and he's not there. And it's like, are you vampire, bro?

Cristina: He's a vampire.

Jack: Vampire.

Cristina: In that reality, he's a vampire.

Jack: Yo. It's crazy. Obviously. Like, he probably just walked away. But, like, that's the question, dude, because he was standing there, and then bats show up. It's not like he blew up into a cloud of bats, but, like, weird. Weird.

Cristina: He's a billionaire.

Jack: Those. So those are robots?

Cristina: No, he's just got. Oh, yes.

Jack: Those are bat bots.

Cristina: Bat bots? Yep. He's just got billions of bat bots.

Jack: Just watching the whole city.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And we know in the movies, he hacked into the city, everybody's phone, everybody's. Everything. He hacked into everything.

Cristina: He's got bad bots.

Jack: You got bad bots. Cameras everywhere.

Cristina: Bats aren't real.

Jack: Bats aren't real.

Cristina: They're just robots. He's my Batman.

Jack: Birds are probably real. No, he probably just stole the idea from birds. And it's like, I could do that with bats.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Bat bots.

Cristina: Batbots. That's it.

Jack: Of course. We're idiots. Why would we think there's a flying mammal?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's so stupid.

Cristina: Well, then what was in his dream? What was in his mind? If those aren't really bats?

Jack: No, because bats aren't real. He had a thought, which was one day, he's obsessed.

Cristina: He created the creature.

Jack: How did Steve Jobs come up with the ipod? And then the ipod led to the iPhone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You know? You know.

Cristina: But that's not. I don't know. But music has always been around. I don't know.

Jack: And like, he started on, like, a computer. He was like, imma make the thing. I only got one vision. So if you. If one day Steve Jobs is like, I got a secret identity. Right now I'm just a hippie. You'll never know who I really am. And then the Riddler tricks Steve Jobs to go into this machine. All he sees is, like, a computer screen. He's like, this must be the f****** billionaire Steve Jobs. Because there's a. There's a screen with things on it that aren't.

Cristina: With an apple symbol. Yeah.

Jack: Like, it must be Steve Jobs. This hippie must be Steve Jobs. And so this is the story of Batman, which is like, in sea Bats. In fact, when the Riddler saw all those bats, he's like, what the f*** is this? It looks like a rat with wings. How stupid. How stupid? Look at his imagination. He's probably making fun. How stupid. Look, his imagination. Rats with wings. Is he a child?

Cristina: But he calls himself Batman. So no one thought what bat was in Batman?

Jack: No, they're like, it's f****** crazy guy.

Cristina: Like, they're like, from like, baseball bat.

Jack: Yeah. They're thinking, like, he thinks he's a black baseball bat or some. With wings. It's a flying baseball bat. Look how stupid. And then Bruce Wayne has flying rats. That's why they didn't connect the dots, because it's like a flying rat. That doesn't make sense.

Cristina: That doesn't make sense.

Jack: Yeah, they don't. They don't call it a bat. They don't know that's a bat yet.

Cristina: I rather imagine that he has one magical trick which is just having bats appear out of nowhere.

Jack: No, I think he has bat tech.

Cristina: I know.

Jack: And those are all bat bots. And he summons a swarm of bat bots with AI controlled by, like, a suit or something. Or maybe it's Alfred somewhere. What the. Lucius controlling it from, like, the hacking place that they do hacking? Yeah, like, whatever.

Cristina: But then why a cave? Bats live in caves. Or I guess he made that up.

Jack: Maybe he's. Yeah, he's obsessed with, like, this concept. Really? Really.

Cristina: So he made up the concept that Bath l. Caves.

Jack: Yeah. He's saying bats live in caves outside. So Because. Because my narrative plays out this way.

Cristina: Okay. Everything we know about bats is because he made it up.

Jack: Yeah. First there was Superman.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: In dc.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then shortly thereafter, Batman was invented. And after that, many years later, when we invented the technology, bats were invented. To be in reality. Okay, so, like, before our time, there were probably no bats.

Cristina: Of course. No bats.

Jack: Bats have only recently been around, but we've been lied to about bats. All that. Have you ever seen a bat?

Cristina: Personally, I think so. Not like close up.

Jack: So you can't prove it's a robot.

Cristina: No, I can't.

Jack: It just looks like a flying rat.

Cristina: Yeah, well, I don't even know.

Jack: It was. So it's too fast and, like, erratic, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you can't focus. It moves in such a way that you can't see it. Be a robot. Of course, because it's a robot.

Cristina: Yeah. Yes, yes.

Jack: Since works.

Cristina: I'd rather he be a magician that does magic with bats. He just turns things into bats.

Jack: That's not a man. I mean, I guess if you. David. Playing it or whatever the. And like, here's me fighting you on a roof.

Cristina: They tie him up in rope and then he just turns the rope into bats or something when he, like, rips it apart.

Jack: Fair.

Cristina: Just rip. And then, you know, bats come out.

Jack: Like, how'd you do that? Yeah, it's like, wait till I show you the next one. Then he just grabs a bottle and eats it.

Cristina: Yeah, and then he spits out of that.

Jack: Yeah, he's exactly. He's like, watch. And he just eats a piece of glass. And that comes out of his mouth.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like, I have. I'm like David Blaine. I could do everything he does, except the ending result is always a bat. Yes, it's always bad.

Cristina: David Blaine is not a magician.

Jack: I mean, he's. No, he isn't magician. He just has a bunch of other lame f****** things he does.

Cristina: His magician stuff is just.

Jack: Look, I know I just beat you and I tied you up. I'm Batman, McKenna. I know, bro. I know you're Batman, doll. You wouldn't have done this otherwise. But watch, watch. Look at the rope around you. I'm gonna eat this bottle, bat. And now for my finale. Look at this giant nail. Here is my hand. I'm gonna put this nail through my hand. And then he starts putting the nail through his hand. And out the other side of his hand, a f****** bat flies out the criminals like, wow, he deserves to go to jail.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This is impressive.

Cristina: So he shows off his hand. Like, look, there's nothing there but some blood.

Jack: Not even. Look, if I wipe it off, there's no more hole or anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How'd I do it? How do I do it? He's got them confused until the cops show up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like. Got him. Got him. Colonel, they're right here. I got them.

Cristina: They're very confused. Yeah.

Jack: They're plotting and everything, like. Yeah, yeah. They're getting arrested. She's like. This is impressive. Impressive.

Cristina: Has he shown the police his tricks? No.

Jack: They don't know how he catches them.

Cristina: No. His magic trick.

Jack: No, that's not what I mean. He doesn't show the police. The police doesn't know how Batman stops and subdues crime. Yeah. He just shows up and awesome with f****** magic trick has all their attentions.

Cristina: Awesome. Yes. I hope that. Why is there a version? There's probably a version. We made that a version now.

Jack: Yes. This is new Batman.

Cristina: This is the new Batman.

Jack: We're gonna do everything we can to buy the rights for one film and a comic book series.

Cristina: To do comic books.

Jack: We do both.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: A series of graphic novels and a television animated show and a live action television show, all based on batgician Bagician.

Cristina: The Batition.

Jack: The bagician.

Cristina: Won't we be sued because it's just Batman, but he does magic.

Jack: We're not gonna be sued. We're gonna buy the rights to Batman to bat Jason.

Cristina: Okay. We can't look like Batman.

Jack: He's gonna look exactly Batman. It is Batman. It's just exactly the origin story and everything. Thomas Wayne and everything.

Cristina: We didn't even change the names. No, it's all the same.

Jack: Bruce Wayne, the bad dish.

Cristina: We're gonna. They're not gonna have a problem with that.

Jack: Nope. Because we're gonna get the rights.

Cristina: How are they gonna let us get the rights?

Jack: We buy. We pay money. They all. Everybody reacts to money.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's how people have made different versions of Batman.

Cristina: That's how we're gonna do it. Okay.

Jack: That's how it goes. So you do Batman.

Cristina: That's me.

Jack: Also the bad gician.

Cristina: The magician.

Jack: Anyways, Anyways. So conclusion. You guys now know the true story about Batman. He runs an only fans. That's where he gets his money. He invented only fans. And he does magic tricks to catch all the criminals and, like, trick them until the cops show up. And also he wants. His one true vision is to become a bat. And also, bats don't exist because he made them up. And Little mermaid wants a soul. He likes to show off magic. The mermaid wants a soul. And we got to stuff Pinocho into Frankenstein so that he could wear a meat suit.

Cristina: Yeah. That's disturbing.

Jack: Yeah. What it was. There wasn't. I don't know what the. It was it might have been like a meat canyon cartoon or something where he, like, cut somebody and like, crawled in their body or something, I think.

Cristina: So was it Pinocchio that did that? Yeah, I feel like.

Jack: No, Pinocchio was like a demon of some sort.

Cristina: Yeah, but was he inside of someone?

Jack: No, I don't. Maybe it might have been. I don't know. It's been a while since Hunter was on this show. That was like three seasons ago. We gotta get Hunter back on the show. Get Hunter. I'm gonna see. Get Hunter Hancock to come back, talk about meat canyon and all that stuff, how it's blown up since. Since then. That'd be cool. Hunter's cool. Chill guy. Anyways, so if you guys like this conversation, which was absolutely absurd, but, you know, they're all absolutely absurd, you can find more of that on the official website greathoughts.info or on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcast, pretty much.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show, which are all very important and great and fantastic. And find me on stereo.

Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yeah, Word of mouth. You know, the power of discussion. Tell people you know the true story behind Batman. Now this is the real story.

Cristina: This is. Yes, Replace the old version of Batman and everything you knew about him.

Jack: Yeah. Forget everything you know about Batman. Now this is Batman.

Cristina: What?

Jack: This is Batman. Who's Batman? Right. Because you forgot everything you know about Batman.

Cristina: Everything you know except for his name. Except for not calling him Batman, man.

Jack: That's an old Mitch Hedberg joke. Forget everything you know about burgers. Now here is a burger. What's that? He forgot everything he knew about burgers. It wasn't about burgers, though. I don't remember what the f***.

Cristina: What happened in SpongeBob.

Jack: It did.

Cristina: Something like that happened, but I forget.

Jack: He forgot how to make Krabby Patties.

Cristina: Yes. Because he had to remember how to run a restaurant.

Jack: Did I just cross spongebob with Mitch Head?

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know.

Jack: Check out Mitch Hedberg. Shout out. Great comedian.

Cristina: Well, tell him we said hi.

Jack: Yeah, tell Mitch Hedberg, like, I mean, what's it called?

Cristina: Luigi board.

Jack: A Luigi board. Use a little full circle. We started with Mario and Full Circle. Use a Luigi board.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Use that Luigi to get to Mitch Hedberg on the other side of the ether.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. I mean, of course you've heard of a cugnugh fugot.

Cristina: Where have I heard of that?

Jack: You heard it in school. They taught you what a cugnugh fug it was?

Cristina: No, that's not a real word.

Jack: How do you know?

Cristina: None of that sounds familiar.

Jack: You're telling me that in no language cugnug fuggit is a real word?

Cristina: No.

Jack: Like factually, you believe there's no combination of words in all of language that equates to kug nug fugit?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: It sounds like gibberish.

Jack: So does a bunch of other s*** that we don't understand.

Cristina: But you don't know what? That. That's not a word that you know what. What language is that?

Jack: Kugnug fugit is.

Cristina: What does it mean? Use it in a sentence.

Jack: You want me to use kugnug fugit in a sentence, huh?

Cristina: Well, first define it.

Jack: Kugnug fugit.

Cristina: The definition.

Jack: The definition of kugnug. F*** it. I don't know, man. I don't speak that language.

Cristina: And when have you heard of it?

Jack: I've heard it used repeatedly to insult me. It's an insult in some language.

Cristina: What language?

Jack: A language. I don't know every language. I couldn't tell you.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 145: Gods vs Death Note

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What constitutes something being godly? Must it be immortal? Omniscient? Have created the universe or reality? Been born of a god? And could any of these instances survive having their name written in the Death Note? The duo unpacks the definition of a god and puts them on a 1v1 with Light Yagami and his notorious Death Note

Rambling 145: Gods vs Death Note

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Death Note
  • Gods of Death
  • Gods of Destruction
  • Zeno
  • Jehovah
  • Zeus
  • Odin
  • Advanced Aliens
  • Angels vs Demi-Gods
  • The Nothing
  • Omniscience
  • The Grim Reaper
  • Defining Godliness

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I am your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yeah, so scream at somebody.

Cristina: Scream.

Jack: That's all I gotta say.

Cristina: Scream about the show or just scream.

Jack: No, just scream. Don't know.

Cristina: Just scream and they'll know.

Jack: Don't know. You just run up to somebody and you go. And they'll be like, oh, right, I forgot to listen to the show. Or if you just. Ah, wait, the Just Conversation podcast exists as a thing.

Cristina: They'll just understand.

Jack: They'll just understand. You just have to say it with that in mind. It's kind of like Death Note where you got to write the name with the right person in mind. Because somebody else has the name, that person has a potential of dying. So if you know what they look like and then you use their name.

Cristina: If you don't know what the person looks like, but you just know their name, no one dies. Right.

Jack: If you don't know what the person looks like and you don't use it, I don't know.

Cristina: Because the point is you have to know and then that person dies. If you're just writing a name down that's very popular, no one's gonna die.

Jack: Yeah, I think it needs a name and a face. Right.

Cristina: But if you know the face and you use a fake name, why does it matter? Why is it that exact? Because if you have the person in mind, if that's what's really important, like why do they care if you have their name right or wrong? Like what if I wrote down your nickname? Why should it matter if I know who I'm thinking of when I'm writing it? To kill you or whatever?

Jack: I don't know. I don't know. It's weird because the name is man made.

Cristina: Exactly. That's a weird thing for the gods to care about.

Jack: I don't know. Maybe there's inherent names that people are given before they come to life and their parents just know inherently, this is what this person is called, but the name was given to them beforehand. Yeah, that's why you need a name and a face.

Cristina: Yeah, I said gods. But what are they they are called gods. Right.

Jack: Shinigami are gods of death.

Cristina: Gods of death.

Jack: Okay, different to gods of destruction.

Cristina: Who's a God of destruction? There's a God of destruction on the show?

Jack: No, but there's Beerus from Dragon Ball Z. Oh, okay. He's God of destruction.

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: The question is, could a Shinigami kill Beerus with a simple notebook?

Cristina: Definitely.

Jack: The OV Man. Here's a problem. That notebook is so overpowered. Yeah, like light versus anybody.

Cristina: If he knows.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. All he needs is Misa Amane by his side. Yeah, she can see their literal name.

Cristina: Yeah, we'll know Beerus's whole name. If that's not his whole name, write it down. It's done.

Jack: It's over.

Cristina: Yeah, you can kill a cat God. I mean, God of destruction.

Jack: You can kind of kill anybody. Now my question is, can the notebooks. Can the Death Note be used to kill Zeno? Zeno creates the universe, which is to say, Zeno and Arceus are, in theory, the same thing.

Cristina: Who's Arceus?

Jack: Arceus is the poke God.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But can the death. What are those creatures called again?

Jack: The Shinigami.

Cristina: Shin Megamis. Write down each other's name to kill them?

Jack: I don't know. I know that Light was told he cannot write a Shinigami name. It would do nothing.

Cristina: Could a Shinigami do that?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Because if they can't, then maybe they can't kill Beerus or any other God.

Jack: Interesting. But Beerus is an alien.

Cristina: But he's called a God of destruction. But he's not an actual God.

Jack: Yeah, he's a literal being on a planet. Yes, sort of. Yeah. Because Vegeta just became a God. It's a. It's a power degree.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But Zeno is a true God. Or is that just another power?

Jack: This is what's weird, because Zeno seems to be himself an alien.

Cristina: They all seem like aliens. Yeah, it's like the dragons are aliens to me.

Jack: No, the dragons are magic.

Cristina: Are they?

Jack: Yeah, because they were made by a creature.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And then the dragon, for example, the regular dragon is made by Kami, the first dragon. He made the dragon balls. And then so he's like power. And then he comes from that power. And he has the power to grant wishes, which is borderline.

Cristina: That's the universe one.

Jack: I don't know where the f*** that came from.

Cristina: Someone had to make the balls for that.

Jack: Maybe Zeno.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. If he's behind making the planets he's made, he made everything yeah, in theory.

Jack: He made everything.

Cristina: Okay. He could probably die, I don't know. Because he's an alien.

Jack: Yeah, that's the argument. He's not. He's God in the. In that he made everything else. Yes, but he's not God in that he is immortal.

Cristina: We don't. How is he not immortal?

Jack: He's. He could probably die. Here's. Okay, there's two xenos, right? Can one xeno kill the other? That's the argument. Okay, is he immortal? Well, there's two of them already. Meaning he exists within time.

Cristina: He does.

Jack: He exists within time. And anything within time can eventually expire. He doesn't exist outside of time. He's just an alien. In order to be God, you have to exist outside of time. That is point number one, forever.

Cristina: But he can only. It's not time that restricts him, I think it's just the reality, Right? No, but then how did the other one get there?

Jack: Yeah, there's two. Yeah, and there's from. They're from different times. Yeah, One hopped with them from the past as the universe was collapsing. Of course, he was the one who collapsed the universe. Yes, but he was in a different timeline where he. It wasn't the same him. It wasn't the same him. It's him. It's him from a different timeline. Yeah, and then he met the future him or the previous him or whatever.

Cristina: Yes, the other him.

Jack: So he doesn't exist everywhere at all times? No, he is not omniscient.

Cristina: Oh, no, he's not.

Jack: Okay, because if it was in theory, if you're God and you exist everywhere all at the same time, I can talk to you now. Take a time machine a hundred years in the past, talk to you, and you would remember me talking to you in the future, because there's no difference.

Cristina: Do the. What are they called? The Q from Star Trek?

Jack: Yes, they can remember you in the present, past and future because to them time doesn't matter. They're more God than Zeno. Boom.

Cristina: Were they once human? What are they? No, they're just being. We. Not. We don't even know what they look like. They're just. They appear to us what we look like because we're looking at.

Jack: Yes, but you did explain that they were once just like humans. Ah, that's the problem.

Cristina: But they're not humans. Or they. Were they humans or were they.

Jack: There's no such, like, human thing that there were. That there were other humans.

Cristina: Like aliens. Yeah, they were aliens that were similar to humans. I mean.

Jack: Yes, yes. They were just mortals.

Cristina: Yeah. That's why. I mean, and they're.

Jack: They're kind of still mortals because Q was going to be executed.

Cristina: Oh, yes. But he says their death is different from.

Jack: Yes, it means something different, but it's still a thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like when we talk about Jehovah. Right. And we're talking about, did God die? What does that mean?

Cristina: What does that mean?

Jack: Like, okay, first let's talk about time scale. God can live throughout the entire existence of humanity. And that was a blip. That was an afternoon for him.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: When we smash two atoms together, a universe could happen in there. We're talking recreating the Big Bang. And in there, all the same particles that create our universe exist. There could be galaxies and planets and universe happens and life happens within this one infinitesimally small point, and we would never even know that a universe came to be and ceased to exist in the big blink of an eye. Smaller fractions of a second that we can count or fathom. Yeah, but we outlived it, and it was a fraction of a second to us. But there were entire lives lived in that one moment.

Cristina: And that would be what God is.

Jack: Well, God would be in our position where it's like, okay, our entire universe.

Cristina: Well, that God can die.

Jack: Then the theory is, if that's an accurate depiction, then God could die.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It would just be really, really, really a timescale. Exactly. It's beyond infinity to us. Yeah, but to God, it's a normal lifespan.

Cristina: Yes. But he's still God. Or he's not the ultimate God that you imagine. The last level God. He's just a demigod God.

Jack: Well, this creates a problem because if is. Is. If there's an ultimate God, then there's.

Cristina: An end, then there's an end, then.

Jack: There'S an end to things. That means there's a biggest size. Oh, you get my point. So the question is, is there or is there always something bigger, greater and more complicated?

Cristina: Yes, I'm going with yes, I think so.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Just keeps going up.

Jack: Because then the argument would be Zeno was made by something.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He exists within a space that doesn't make sense to us, but he is just one of the many within that space. My argument is Jehovah, the Christian God, is either one of many gods, including Zeus as one of them and including Odin as one of them. Where all these different gods are actual gods, more God than the demigods we're familiar with, like Thor or Ares, or does Hercules count Lucifer or these other really powerful beings that aren't omniscient. But also these beings are only omniscient by our point of view.

Cristina: The gods.

Jack: The gods I just mentioned are only omniscient by our point of view. But they're all equal to each other. Meaning not any of them is better. They're all equal somehow.

Cristina: Yeah, we just wouldn't understand.

Jack: Yes. And they exist in an ecosystem in which there is something greater.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, I'm not saying Odin is related to Jehovah. I'm saying they're just people within whatever reality they exist.

Cristina: Or they're just different aliens from each other.

Jack: Well, in this argument, they would be aliens. Or the concept alien doesn't make sense. But they're not the top. Yeah, because there would be no top. They're just the products of whatever universe they're in. And then that universe has a bunch of the thing that made them that's also just one of many.

Cristina: They probably have their own gods, if they.

Jack: Yeah, maybe they each worship somebody different. Or they all worship the same God that said, make your own. Like, you're only really living, existing accurately. You only exist accurately if you make civilizations. And so they all worship the same thing. So Jehovah made civilizations and Odin made civilizations, and Zeus made civilizations because following the path of he who made us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they preached make civilization. And the three of us made civilization.

Cristina: Yes. They made mad crap. It wasn't just humans, I guess. Like, if the angels are something, then what are they? Are they aliens to us?

Jack: No, no, no, no. The angels is just the name for the demigods Jehovah made.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: The same way that, like Zeus and you know.

Cristina: Yeah. They're his group of people that he hangs out with.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. It's all. He just wanted a special name. They're called angels.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But it's the same. It's the same concept. They all fit the same roles. Raphael is what, the. The health angel of health and love or some s***. And there's Michael of war. Like, what's the difference in Michael and Ares? They both wore things.

Cristina: Yeah, you know, same s***. Different names.

Jack: Different names. So then are we to say Zeno is less than Jehovah, Odin and Zeus, or Zeno is equal to Jehovah, Odin and Zeus? My argument would be what? He's more than.

Cristina: He's more.

Jack: He's more than.

Cristina: Why? It sounds like he's the same because he made life. If that's all that they had to do.

Jack: Well, the Greek made were made by Zeus. The what is the Irish or something like that were made by Odin or whatever region that's from. And the Italians were made by Jehovah. That all exists within our planet?

Cristina: Well, we don't really know. I mean, each God claims to have made everyone.

Jack: Yes. But we know it began and all the events took place in a small area.

Cristina: Oh, so you. So fair enough that they're all lying.

Jack: Yeah. I think when we say Zeus, we're talking about two different people. I mean, not Zeus. When we say Jehovah, we're talking about two different people. Right. So I constantly make the argument about good God, bad God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So there is the Hebrew. There's the Hebrew God Jehovah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's wrathful and dark and destructive. He's from Israel.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And the other one, he made the Jews. He made the Israelites.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While the Christian all forgiving God, Jehovah.

Cristina: Did he not also make the Jews?

Jack: Well, no, he made the Christians. He's Italian.

Cristina: He's Italian.

Jack: He made the Italians. Italy and all that stuff. That's Christianity.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: While the Hebrews are Jewish.

Cristina: Okay. So yes. Different gods.

Jack: Different gods, different regions. They fueled demi as compared to somebody like Zeno, who made f****** everything.

Cristina: If you. Did he really make everything? I mean, because there's so many things under him that they could have made their own thing.

Jack: Here's the problem. Zeno really decided to blink existence out of Feyre. And he could.

Cristina: Oh yeah, he could do that.

Jack: He actively was like, so this is really bad. Yeah, it's really bad. Okay, I'll destroy it.

Cristina: Alright. Yes. Yes.

Jack: The end. That was it. It was just like, okay, yeah, he's.

Cristina: A lot like the supernatural God who is going out and blinking out different realities.

Jack: This Zeno would crap on the supernatural God.

Cristina: Yeah. Because he had to actually take turns. He'd slowly.

Jack: He had to. Yeah, he had to break it apart. Zeno was like, well, it's gone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that was it. That's all it took.

Cristina: But he purposely did it slowly.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He wanted to be dramatic, the story. Yes. So he might be the same. He might be equal to Zeno.

Jack: Interesting. So that's to say that the God from Supernatural is quite different than the God we talk about when we think about the two variants of Jehovah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Light and dark and Zeus and Odin.

Cristina: He's more powerful than them.

Jack: Yes. Qs are about as powerful as Zeno.

Cristina: Even though they don't make anything or destroy anything.

Jack: But they could.

Cristina: Could they really?

Jack: Yeah. One of the arguments was, does humanity deserve to exist. That's what Q was trying to. Q was trying to save humanity. But first Q was in trial, and then Q put humanity on trial.

Cristina: When he did that, though, how do you know if they were really on trial? Like, how real was that?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Because he's such a trickst.

Jack: Yeah, he's a troll. He's a troll?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know. He's a troll.

Cristina: Like, he could be lying about everything he's ever said.

Jack: I think, if anything, he deserves the respect that he doesn't seem to be lying. He trolls, but he seems to be telling the truth always. And he's really upfront. He just wants you to figure out the solution.

Cristina: Yeah, but sometimes he puts them in danger, and it's not real danger.

Jack: He never said they were gonna die. He doesn't lie to you. He eludes.

Cristina: Ah, okay. It's hard to trust him. It really is. Do you think he's equal to.

Jack: I think he. His people at least, have the capacity collectively to extinguish entire civilizations instantaneously. The question is, could they remove a universe in its function?

Cristina: No, I don't think so.

Jack: You don't think so?

Cristina: That's crazy. That's.

Jack: Q could be anywhere at any moment.

Cristina: But you also said he could die.

Jack: But he could die. The question is, could Zeno die?

Cristina: Exactly. We don't know that. Like, he destroyed everything and he was still alive.

Jack: Well, he left on a ship.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true. But, like, you think he would have just died? He would have destroyed everything and died with it?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: I don't think so. He would have just made something new, I think.

Jack: I don't know. There's no way to know.

Cristina: There's no way to know.

Jack: The fact that he doesn't exist everywhere at all times already makes him a different thing. Yeah, because. Because Q does. Q could just be wherever at any given moment in time.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Q's gift, Picard, was teaching him how to think outside of time by forcing him to have the same memories at three different points of his life. That was the last episode of Next Generation where he was blinking back and forth and he had to use the knowledge of all times to work through the problems he was dealing with.

Cristina: And you think that's more complicated?

Jack: Well, I think that's more godly.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Zeno does not have that ability.

Cristina: No. We can definitely create and destroy everything.

Jack: So then the question is, nobody is 100% anything. Zeno is not all knowing and he's not all present, but he is all powerful.

Cristina: He is all powerful. Yeah.

Jack: While Q is all present. Maybe not all powerful and not all knowing. Because he could have just read the minds of the humans and known their capacity or seen the future and known it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I guess he could, in theory, see the future, though.

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: But he needs to interact with them at that time. So I guess he chooses different moments to interact with them. Because he could exist at all times, but he doesn't interact with them at all times.

Cristina: That's complicated.

Jack: Like, why doesn't he then?

Cristina: He does feel limited.

Jack: Yeah, There is some. There is some capacity to what he's doing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they both feel limited, but they're.

Cristina: The closest thing to something complete. They're the closest to all the gods because they're all very. Even more limited than those two.

Jack: Yes. I think Q and Zeno are definitely way than the supernatural God. Maybe he's up there too.

Cristina: Him too. Yeah.

Jack: But he's not all knowing. They could block him off from knowing things.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's because in the case of the supernatural God, there is more going on to that God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we have the fact that, like in the previous episode, we discussed that he came to exist not as one, but as two. Factually and maybe as three. Yes, it is possible. God, darkness, and death happened simultaneously, and not one of them came first because the nothing was there first.

Cristina: Yeah. So is that the true goddess God? Does it know everything in supernatural?

Jack: That God is the most gaudy God, but that God is also limited.

Cristina: Yes, it is.

Jack: It's more powerful than all the other s*** and still limited.

Cristina: It is limited. I don't know. But it is. I don't. But their God, though, is really up there too. I mean, the only reason he lost was because of Jack, who's also kind of. He's a God too. Pretty much.

Jack: But that means God could die from another God.

Cristina: It takes a God to kill a God. I mean.

Jack: Yeah, it does. It does. But the fact that a God could die at all means they're less godly than we think they are.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, wait. Jack used his sister to help him kill, Right? What happened with his sister? No, the God killed his sister. Right.

Jack: The darkness. I don't remember how that was included. They needed a couple of things. Like God was op, but God wasn't infinite.

Cristina: No. They're gonna use his sister against him. But then he convinced her to be on his side and he took her inside him. Pretty much some weird thing like that.

Jack: And this God doesn't exist throughout all of time either. He couldn't die in that case.

Cristina: Because he does die.

Jack: And he does die, which means he didn't know this would happen. Which means he's bound to whatever current time there is.

Cristina: But he's writing what's happening, so that's really complicated.

Jack: Not entirely. Not entirely. There's some. That's why he likes Simon Dean. They're too unpredictable to him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There is some aspect of the universe that he has no control over. So he didn't design the universe he exists within, or maybe design the universe. He didn't create reality.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He exists within reality and he makes things inside of reality. But there's an inherent feature of reality that he does not control. That affects everything in reality. And thus Sam and Dean are a product of that. And they can do whatever they want.

Cristina: Yes. But a lot of their luck turned out to be thanks to God.

Jack: Yes. But also, he has no idea what they're going to do half the time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What he loved about them is that he could tell them to do something they wouldn't. That's random and unpredictable. And that means he doesn't control everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there's different degrees. Death himself is a runner of things. He has the books of who dies when they die, how they die. Which has nothing to do with God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: God has no say in this. In fact, there's a book of God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And God is not allowed to look at it. And God can't force Death to show him.

Cristina: Yeah. I'm God. I mean, Death can't betray when that moment's gonna happen. Like he can't decide, I'm gonna kill God.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Even if God was gonna kill him or something.

Jack: Yes. So there's like.

Cristina: They're all limited.

Jack: Every. Everybody's got a limit. So then even the goddess God, which we would say would be the Nothing. Or the other side of the gate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There is still something higher.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: Because the God within the gate is in a place that's a f****** literal place. You can go to the gate.

Cristina: Which gate?

Jack: Full metal.

Cristina: Oh, that God.

Jack: And actually where the nothing lives is also a location.

Cristina: Yes. Don't know where that location is supposed to be.

Jack: Well, you transcend the physical reality.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or the physical universe. But you're still within reality. You're still perceiving. In both instances, then the way you would normally perceive is still very visual and auditory and tactile. So it's all the same senses, but you're experiencing it in some sort of ethereal form that's outside of Normal body constraints.

Cristina: But humans can't go there. I wonder if humans can go there.

Jack: To the other side of the gate. They can. You get pulled in.

Cristina: But I mean to. In the Nothing. Because only angels go there, as far as we can tell, I think.

Jack: Yeah. Jack and Castiel. And Castiel. And how did someone else want that?

Cristina: Sam?

Jack: How did Dean speak to it? Because he was familiar with the Nothing.

Cristina: Did he end up there? Did one of them end up there? I can't remember.

Jack: I can't remember either. That's interesting.

Cristina: I don't remember.

Jack: Oh, I think he did. I think when he finally ceased to exist, that's where he went. I don't remember who it was. I think it was Dean. I'm not sure anyways, because.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, it's. It's kind of interesting to me. So it seems like no matter how far up we go, everybody has a limit. Like omniscience can't happen. Like, you can't be omni. Everything.

Cristina: If you are, then you are. Everything is there. It's not possible. It's not possible for there to be a God.

Jack: Yes. Because God would be a product of perception.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that means that you have to break down the concept of thought and subjectivity which goes beyond the concept of a God. A God has to think. A God has to exist.

Cristina: Yeah. So there can't really be the ultimate God that people think of.

Jack: Consciousness itself would be that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The global consciousness is the one and only God. And it's everywhere at all times. Simultaneously existing with the nothing that is everywhere at all times.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And perceiving that nothing makes the universe.

Cristina: Yeah. And that's it. I guess. Yeah. But there's no God making decisions or anything. Because then that will ruin everything.

Jack: Yes. That's just an observation. And this is what you see.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That being said, this doesn't answer the question of.

Cristina: What was the question?

Jack: Is Q more powerful than Zeno?

Cristina: I feel like Zeno still wins. He blinked out a universe. He blinked out a reality, one of the many.

Jack: Instantaneously.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Q can do that.

Jack: I don't think Q can do that either.

Cristina: Like, maybe they can kill humans like one specific group of beings. But.

Jack: Yeah, fair enough. So then the argument would be supernatural God versus Zeno.

Cristina: That's more tied, I think. Even though we don't know if Zeno could die but because that guy. That God also blinks realities out like nothing. I mean, he did it slowly, but that's because who he is.

Jack: Yes. Like, if he had to really? Because he just could. He just. Like, it's gone.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm sure he can, but he just loved to watch people scream and torture. I don't know. He's pretty messed up. God. Yeah.

Jack: Quite accurately.

Cristina: But yeah. I don't know them too.

Jack: Yeah. Because whichever one of them two wins then has to go against the Death Note.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Whichever one of those two gods wins goes against the Death Note.

Cristina: I feel like they both beat the Death Note.

Jack: Right. The question would be not, can I write your name faster than you could blink me out of existence?

Cristina: Then what is?

Jack: That's not the argument. It's if I write your name in the notebook, do you die?

Cristina: Do you die?

Jack: Like, you stand in front of me and you're like, I don't know. Let's try it. And then I do write whichever God's name in the notebook. Does that guy die? If I wrote Chuck's. Whatever complicated name.

Cristina: I think for Chuck. Yes. Only because we know he could die. Yes, we know he can die. And he's. His name is in a notebook. His name is.

Jack: He's literally gonna die. There is a literal death book.

Cristina: Yeah. There is a Death Note in the.

Jack: Show with his name in it.

Cristina: With his name in it that says when it'll happen. Interesting.

Jack: So the question also, if Zeno doesn't have death, then he beats Chuck because Chuck does die.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know. They. They do have a heaven and h***, though, in that universe, so.

Jack: So does Dragon Ball Z. Yeah.

Cristina: That's what I mean. In Dragon Ball Z. So it's possible, I think, that just because those places exist, maybe he could end up in one of those places.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: But I don't know, can he? Because what could touch him? What could touch him? I mean, if he goes against himself, I guess is the only real fight. I can't imagine anything else f****** with Zeno. Yeah. If it's Zeno versus Zeno. But could they? I don't think so. It would have to be something stronger than Xeno. But he's the top.

Jack: As far as we know.

Cristina: As far as we know.

Jack: Dragon Ball Z. I won't put a cap on anything.

Cristina: Ah, you think there's something even higher?

Jack: I think if. I think eventually Goku gets all the powers of all the freaking. Whatever these creatures. He gets the God powers or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Ultra mega duper instinct. And. And Vegeta gets super duper awesome destructive powers or whatever. Yeah. And then they get super grand Xeno power of all time. And then they're like, we're the strongest. And then Zeno's like, oh, no. My people are showing like, wait, your people? Yeah. I'm like the weak one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's typical Dragon Ball Z s***. Yeah, I'm the weak one. We need your help, Goku. Something horrible is about to happen, and you're the only guy I know stronger than me.

Cristina: No way. I mean, it could be. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah. We already exited the concepts of time and a different universe. Or in the multiverse at this point.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But there could be like an Ultra Verse.

Cristina: An Ultra Verse? Oh, yes.

Jack: And Zeno is one of the many.

Cristina: Yeah. No, I don't know. Only time will tell.

Jack: Like in this. At this point. At this point, nothing is God. It seems like nothing is legitimately God. Unless we have to change the definition of what God is.

Cristina: No, it's all demigods.

Jack: Yeah, because there's no. Like, the only true Gods are abstract concepts. That's the only way.

Cristina: Yeah. Then does that still count? That's not a God. Then what? The abstract.

Jack: The what? Like the global consciousness, that's everything. So it's. It's God. But that's literally to say God is within everything inherently without any deviation from anything. And it controls nothing. Except it controls everything, because everything is God. So it's intentional.

Cristina: Nothing.

Jack: Yeah, it means nothing. It's just reality equals God.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, that's really.

Jack: They're interchangeable words.

Cristina: Yeah. So it doesn't matter.

Jack: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Cristina: Wow. Huh? Does that make God a little bit lame? That he's not a thing?

Jack: No, he's still OP next to us. He's just not infinitely the way we think. From our point of view, he is. He'll always be everywhere, all the time, and exist beyond our concepts of time. But, like, he could already be dead.

Cristina: He could already be dead. I don't know.

Jack: God could have died in making the universe, and then as a result, he's never existed within our time.

Cristina: What would make him God? How would that work? I don't know.

Jack: He made. He's God because He made everything as far as we know.

Cristina: Okay. That's it. The power of making us is enough to be God. Because it doesn't really matter if he can live forever or not.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: If he has all the knowledge or not.

Jack: Yeah. I guess Creator and God would be interchangeable.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Not omniscience, but Creator.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Creator equals God.

Cristina: Yeah. So if it's a scientist in the lab, that's good enough.

Jack: Yes. A scientist in a lab is God of Whatever he made, he's creator. And so I guess an interesting angle here would be if that were the case, God or the universe can exist, not God. And the universe can exist because God uses himself to make the universe. Then the universe collapses into this one thing again. And this one thing is all that there is. And it's an ever existing, infinitely lasting, self aware thing. And then it decides imma make everything, but I must make it from me, because I'm all that there is. And then I'll die in doing so. But I will be everything. My corpse is everything. And then that's the universe. And then the universe, after long enough, collapses again. And then it's this one thing again that's fully aware of itself and it's everything and everywhere all the same time. Because it's all that there is. And so there's a cycle of there is a God but no universe. And there's a universe but no God.

Cristina: Weird. Oh my gosh. Okay, but what, what is that? God is making the universe every time. Then the universe becomes God.

Jack: The universe dies. To create a God.

Cristina: To create a God.

Jack: In death there is birth somehow. Yes, always. Inescapably.

Cristina: So when the universe dies, God is made from that?

Jack: Yeah, God is made from the collapsed universe.

Cristina: Ashes. Interesting.

Jack: Then God collapses to create the universe.

Cristina: That's interesting.

Jack: Interesting. And as long as we exist, we are made of God. God is within all of us. Literally.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because God corpses us all. The star. Well, everything is made of stardust. We are made of stardust. Well, that stardust is God's corpse.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, I guess that's a dark way to word it.

Jack: God's corpse. But it's like whatever he was. Because corpse doesn't really make sense. But whatever he was, the waves that create the universe, the four forces or.

Cristina: Five, intentionally make us. Or is it just part of his life cycle to make us in the end, after he dies? Like.

Jack: I don't know. I don't know. That's an interesting question and something that would be impossible for me to answer. Yeah, but now the other angle of this would be if it was always perpetually existing, then we have the possibility. The global consciousness is much more accurate. And the global consciousness perceives everything simultaneously, is aware that it is a singular thing and the way that it is simultaneously everything else. Even if we have no awareness that we are that one thing and we all feel subjective in some higher dimensional perspective, we are all fully aware that we are the same thing.

Cristina: That's possible.

Jack: Yeah, that would mean that there's no distinction. And there is no life and there is no death. There's only perspective.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which feels like something that would happen as a product of consciousness observing nothingness.

Cristina: Yes. That's gotta be. It feels more accurate, right?

Jack: That feels more accurate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because even God dying to create the universe and the universe collapsing to create God, where is this happening? Right. There's still something happening.

Cristina: There's something off there. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. There's something bigger, anyways.

Cristina: Mm. But if it's the global consciousness, then there doesn't need to be anything bigger.

Jack: It doesn't need to be anything bigger. Yeah. It's all of everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There is size ceases to matter.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because you are the big and the small simultaneously with no distinction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Sure, within the third dimension, there might be infinitely going up, but all of everything in every scale within the third dimension is just a single slit of some fourth dimension, the single slit of fifth dimension, single slit of. And so on and so forth. That's collectively the one. Same thing.

Cristina: Yeah. I think that's it.

Jack: That is everywhere. But everywhere doesn't make sense because it is the space in which everything is in at the same time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, being everywhere doesn't matter if you are the space that is everywhere.

Cristina: Yeah, that sounds right.

Jack: Right. That makes way more sense.

Cristina: That's gotta be the real God. I think so.

Jack: But then the concept of God ceases to exist. Because it's not even creator. Because it created nothing. It was always there. Yeah, all of it was always there. No, but it's weird because then we're saying that in order to be God, you just have to be creator, not omniscient. Because the only omniscient thing is a global consciousness.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Everywhere. Everyone always knows everything.

Cristina: So we wouldn't call that a God.

Jack: We wouldn't call that a God because God has to.

Cristina: Because that is it. That's not. I guess. Yeah. God is not a good enough name for what it is.

Jack: Yes. Because it is not an it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because the lack of it is also what we're talking about.

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: And it's like God is just another piece of this thing that feels that I'm God. But, like. Yeah, he's still.

Cristina: But that's why demigod sounds more right. Whether it sees itself as God or not.

Jack: Yes. Because if we're gonna say God and use all these descriptors of omniscient everything, then that's a global consciousness. Blah, blah, blah. That's the global consciousness.

Cristina: Yeah. If there's a God, it's not really? The God that everyone imagines, it's. Yeah, because. So I guess gods can exist, they're just not really gods.

Jack: Yes, well, they are. They're creators.

Cristina: They're creators.

Jack: There are creators. There might be creators. It's possible there are creators. Maybe this universe was created by a thinking individual, but that thinking individual in the highest plane of existence is no different than we are.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because somehow we also made this universe.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's a weird one. God exists because we believe in him. But God had to make the universe for us to believe in them. That's us being God.

Cristina: That's still the global consciousness.

Jack: Exactly. When you look at weird contradictions like that, weird paradoxes where. Well, the human wants to believe in something led to the existence of a God, but God made the universe with the people who believe in him. That's a closed loop.

Cristina: Yeah, but it's a perfect loop.

Jack: Perfect loop.

Cristina: That's how it should be.

Jack: If it's not a paradox, we don't get it.

Cristina: If it's not a paradox, we don't get it.

Jack: Yeah. Who was it? Einstein is the one who said it. But if you don't. I'm not sure. But if you don't understand it, if you. If you believe you understand it, you don't, because what is it? No, if you're not confused, you don't understand it well enough. There you go.

Cristina: I'm very confused.

Jack: Yeah, if you're not confused, you don't understand it well enough.

Cristina: So you're saying we do understand it. Because I feel like I still don't understand it. I do.

Jack: No, if you're very, very. I don't know.

Cristina: It's so complicated.

Jack: I don't know. Well, you don't understand it super well, no matter what. But you understand it better than somebody who believes they get it.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Like if somebody's like, well, there is definitely a God, and this is why. And then you're like, well, what about the whole other argument that contradicts that? Well, you're aware of a contradiction, that you're confused. You're like, well, yeah, I get it. But like, what about this giant hole over here? Even if we still technically exist, that hole still exists. You're aware that there's a problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you're confused more than that person who isn't. Who thinks, well, no, it's clearly this. It's like, well, you're missing so many pieces of this picture, and that's why you think it's like this.

Cristina: Yep. So complicated.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So who's gonna win. Zeno or the death Supernatural God?

Jack: No, it doesn't matter. Zeno is gonna win. We know supernatural God dies. The question is, does Zeno die?

Cristina: Okay, so then Zeno versus.

Jack: Yeah. Because we know that Arceus, who also made everything, can be trapped inside of stupid Pokeball.

Cristina: Yeah, but he could probably live forever.

Jack: I don't know. And we can outman. The problem is, we can outmaneuver Zeno.

Cristina: How do you know?

Jack: Because you can escape his realm of knowledge. He's bound to time. He didn't know the other him. It wasn't him. The fact that there are two of him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There are things he does not know.

Cristina: Yes. He only knows his universe.

Jack: He knows his universe. And not all of it either. He met Goku. He didn't know Goku.

Cristina: No. Okay.

Jack: You see, he's not all knowing. He made the universe.

Cristina: Maybe he made all of them, which makes no sense. I don't understand. It's complicated. Why are there more than one? Because they're from different times. Not even different realities. Nope.

Jack: Just different times.

Cristina: So that makes it weird because he made all the realities in the first place.

Jack: He made different universes.

Cristina: Universes.

Jack: 12 universes.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay. 12 universes.

Jack: But the different times within these universes, he is subject to, not a creator of.

Cristina: Yeah. So then could his name be written there?

Jack: Maybe there's something outside of Xeno that exists.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which is time.

Cristina: Mm, man. Then, yeah, I think he could be written in there. Because time, he still. Yeah.

Jack: Trump Zeno.

Cristina: Yeah. So eventually he dies like everyone else.

Jack: In some way we can't fathom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But yes, Zeno probably dies.

Cristina: Probably can die.

Jack: So then the question is, is there somebody whose name we can't write? Now, the Shinigami's names can't be written within the notebook. But the Shinigami, although the exception, aren't godly. Other than the fact that live forever, they escape time, but can still die. They escape time by adding once they run out of people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To write their names into the notebook, all the Shinigami would cease to exist. Because they need people's names to write in the notebook to live.

Cristina: Yes, that's true. Even they die.

Jack: Yes. So the people die, and then the Shinigami die.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: So whose name can we write in the notebook and won't die? That would be the gaudiest God.

Cristina: The gaddiest God.

Jack: Zeus could be killed. Hercules does it. Kratos does it. The Q's were gonna execute one another.

Cristina: Exactly. So they could be written even if they Lived outside of time. It makes no sense.

Jack: Odin is scared of trying to kill him.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So he can die.

Cristina: Yeah, he definitely fears death. That's his biggest fear. Death. Okay.

Jack: I would argue Old Jehovah was killed by New Jehovah or imprisoned. Bare minimum. Meaning there's some degree of power. He can't overcompensate. Which means anyone equal to him can trap him.

Cristina: Can the dragons in Dragon Ball Z die?

Jack: Yes. Yes, it can. That's why the dragons fear the gods of death.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I don't know if the Super Mega Duper dragon, but the question is Xeno versus the Super Mega Duper Dragon.

Cristina: I don't know. I feel like Xeno could blink it out of existence.

Jack: He could blink out the literal balls that summoned it. But could he blink out the dragon?

Cristina: Possibly. His power is ridiculous, though. He might be limited, but he's still pretty ridiculous as a creature or whatever he is. So I don't know if there's anything that can't be written. I don't know. The Darkness, the nothing. Nothing can die.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. Does nothing exist? Because the darkness is trapped, just like Chuck. But the Nothing, which we've also established is somehow the Speed Force. But the Nothing, we could probably not write its name down and get a result, because where would it go if not back to where it came from and then just come back.

Cristina: Exactly. It's nothing. Like, you can't get rid of nothing.

Jack: You can't get rid of nothing. But then the same thing would happen with the Gate, because death literally sends everything to the Gate. When you go there, you see everybody who's dead. So if you were to capture the creature from the gate outside, Kill it somehow, by whatever definition means kill. It would go back to the space in which it dwells and then come right back. In neither one of these cases did they die. You change your location so they don't die. They just stay there. They've always been and they'll always be.

Cristina: Yes. I think that that's pretty much it, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: The Space Force. That's what you called it. Speed Force.

Jack: The Speed.

Cristina: The Speed Force. Okay. That's the ultimate name.

Jack: Yes. So the Speed Force is the one thing that's named we can't write. Well, it's just the Force.

Cristina: The Force. Okay.

Jack: And Trump's magnificent Space Force can also not be destroyed.

Cristina: Trump's Space Force.

Jack: Yeah. You just said the Space Force.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: So Space Force and the.

Cristina: That's what they called Space Force.

Jack: Yeah, the space, like, cowboy thing. He tried to start to Protect the planet.

Cristina: That's a cool thing, though.

Jack: Yeah. To protect the planet from, like, aliens or something.

Cristina: I don't know. I want to be part of that.

Jack: I would like to be part of that. I'm not sure what the point of the Space Force is, but maybe it's to find the real God. Maybe we're looking for the nothing. We have an inkling that even if we don't get how it's an alien. It is.

Cristina: Yes. No, I don't think it is.

Jack: I think it's an alien.

Cristina: What? Nothing. Yeah, I don't think it's alien.

Jack: It might be. Who knows? I have no concept of what is.

Cristina: Yeah, but nothing is nothing. I don't know.

Jack: Nothing is nothing, so. But it's in a place which is weird. I would argue it's the highest form of godliness in that it cannot be killed and seems to have the capacity to get rid of anything else.

Cristina: But you think it's limited in some way?

Jack: I don't think it's all powerful. Like, it couldn't blink the universe out of existence, but it could kill an individual within the universe. So it could, like, off Chuck, which is one. Chuck is one, not everything.

Cristina: I mean, it eventually can get rid.

Jack: Of everything, picking at it one by one by one by one for all of infinity. But it can do it, I guess, given enough time.

Cristina: Yeah. That's all it needs. And time probably means nothing to it.

Jack: But that being said, you give Castiel enough time, and he can, in theory, destroy everything in the universe. Giving anyone enough time? They can't really, with an infinite amount of time.

Cristina: Yeah, like planets and stuff. No, there are things we can't destroy easily.

Jack: Fair. But, like, you don't need to be ubers. Like, for example, Thor can clear out a universe with infinity.

Cristina: You could destroy a planet, probably, with.

Jack: Infinity by his side. I mean, his hammer has the power of a star.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: You know, like, he can do whatever the f*** he wants.

Cristina: He can't get rid of himself. The Nothing has that advantage.

Jack: That's a weird one, Right? Exactly, because that's the only thing the Nothing has in his favor. He can get rid of any one thing at any given time, and then that's it.

Cristina: There's nothing left. If someone else did the same thing, they'd still be left.

Jack: Yes, but the nothing isn't there.

Cristina: Exactly. So the nothing wins.

Jack: The nothing wins. It was already not there. You could get rid of everything.

Cristina: You could get rid of everything.

Jack: Zeno would still be left. Even if he blinked, the universe Out. Chuck would still be left even if he blinked the universe out. As would be Odin, as would be Zeus, as would be Jehovah. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody except the nothing, where the only thing that would be left is nothing.

Cristina: Exactly. Nothing will be left.

Jack: Nothing would be left.

Cristina: Truly extinguish everything. He wins.

Jack: And he's not there to begin with.

Cristina: Exactly. That makes no sense.

Jack: Yeah, it's a weird thought to have, because in supernatural, they're just trying to convey that there's nothing here by showing us something there. Yeah, but, like, the idea is there's nothing.

Cristina: Yes, but they gave nothing a personality and everything. I don't know. Yeah, they made nothing of something, but.

Jack: It'S not still nothing. Yeah, a conscious nothing. Because first, consciousness has nothing, and nothing, for whatever reason, has consciousness.

Cristina: Well, that makes sense, I guess. But it's the same thing. Consciousness and nothing are the same.

Jack: Sort of. But they're not. No, because, like, nothingness isn't inherently conscious, but it contains consciousness within it or around it or. Yes, some consciousness.

Cristina: But that's with everything. Everything has consciousness.

Jack: No, because everything is consciousness. Not everything has consciousness.

Cristina: Everything is.

Jack: There's only things. Because consciousness.

Cristina: Okay. And nothing is the same.

Jack: Well, nothing doesn't have consciousness. No, Nothing is nothing. Despite consciousness. That's the only thing that exists. Man, this conversation is so astoundingly abstract. I'm sure we've alienated the entire listener base by talking about the most abstract concept, which is to break apart anything and everything and leave the literal lack of all. And consciousness is bare bones. Yes, but, like, we're talking gods. This is the limit. Yes, because God, the idea of a God, is demi by default.

Cristina: There's the only things left is consciousness and nothing.

Jack: Yeah, and consciousness has no space in which to act. It observes action, and nothingness has nothing to act within it. But somehow the product of observing the lack of equals something. Nothing could be more abstract than this.

Cristina: Conversation, but I think that's as far as we can go with it. I don't.

Jack: Yeah, it's the limit of metaphysics. We're not even trying to answer stupid questions like, what is consciousness? Like, I don't f****** know, bro. It's observation. Yeah, I don't know how to answer that question, but I can tell you that the limit of all that there is. Maybe not factually, but, like, as far as even the humans listening. And if you are listening and you feel like you have a better answer.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Let us know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If you feel you have something more abstract to offer.

Cristina: I doubt that. But if you do.

Jack: Enlighten us. Because right now we believe that before something existed, there was a potential consciousness within the nothing that is everywhere or whatever. Or every nothing. It's hard because there is no language to describe the lack of something.

Cristina: Nothing is nothing. Nowhere.

Jack: Yeah. Nothing is everywhere and nowhere. Because it doesn't that there needs to be a word. The problem is language would break down because if you had a word, then it's something by default.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It needs to transcend everything. Because it's nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It needs to transcend literally everything. And then consciousness needs to be included. And then the universe happens. Or reality is a product. Reality looks like is subject to whatever rules are governing said reality, which is observed by consciousness looking at nothing. I don't know what else to say.

Cristina: Yeah. So look, if you make sense.

Jack: I hope so. Point is that if we write Zeno's name into Death Note, he probably dies.

Cristina: Yeah. That's the conclusion here.

Jack: It seems like the only name we can't successfully write and get good results from nothing are nothing from Supernatural and the God from Full Metal. Because that's also essentially the nothing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It exists in a weird space of nothing.

Cristina: You can't write down nothing.

Jack: Like you can, but nothing would happen.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Because there's just nothing there for something to happen to.

Cristina: Exactly. That's the conclusion.

Jack: That's the conclusion that if you write the name of nothing, well, nothing would happen.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that makes perfect sense, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If you write nothing, then nothing.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: This is an educational episode.

Cristina: Yes. You learned a lot.

Jack: We learned a lot. If you write nothing, nothing happens. That's. Man. If you write nothing, nothing happens. And I can't. Look, if you guys truly do believe there's more, please tell us. We need to know. I would like to know definitely what more abstract concept there is.

Cristina: If you know more about nothing.

Jack: Yeah. If you have a way of thinking of nothing that we have not discussed, please share.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because this is not like an easy subject.

Cristina: No, I mean, it's about, like, how do you even.

Jack: I don't know, dude. It's weird.

Cristina: Yes. So, yeah, let us know.

Jack: Let us know about nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that's fantastic and all, but, like, I don't know because. Because there's nothing to know.

Cristina: There's nothing to know.

Jack: So, like, if they had an answer, it would have to include the fact that there's nothing to share. That's. I don't know. Just comment, reply, tweet at us, or f******, like, find us on, preferably Instagram, email us. I don't Care.

Cristina: Text us.

Jack: Yeah, text us. Let us know. Send us. Send me a letter.

Cristina: Call us. So we can ignore it.

Jack: Yeah, probably a scam call, but I'll answer and try to find out what nothing means.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In fact, next time I get a scam call, I'm gonna do that.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I'll be like, what? What does nothing mean?

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, I'm gonna just ask, what does nothing mean? And they're gonna tell me, don't know. Well, no, they know everything except what f****** car. The warranty they're asking for seems to be expired on. And if you ask them, like, then how do you know? Then they hang up on you. Your car is expired warranty. You got to send this money or whatever. Which car? Your newest car. Wait, I bought two cars at the same time. Which one? What are the two makes of your car? Well, hold on. You said the warranty was expiring. How do you know?

Cristina: Yeah, they're just really guessing.

Jack: Yeah, they're not guessing. There's no f****** warranty expiring.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: You might not even have a car. No, they're just calling a number saying the warranty's expire.

Cristina: Yeah, they call me for that. What car? I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, which one of my cars?

Cristina: Man, that's crazy.

Jack: Anyway, so let us know, man. Let us know.

Cristina: Let us know about nothing.

Jack: Yeah, let us know about nothing. And if you like conversations like this. Well, last episode, we had the same thing. And I think, like, two or three episodes before that, we also discussed. That's where we came to the conclusion of what the Speed Force was. The Force, ultimately, the energy that exists within everything. And then. So this episode, we tried to compare all the gods. The previous episode, we established which God is. What? I don't remember.

Cristina: I don't.

Jack: I know. We talked about gods, too, to some degree. And then several episodes back, established the Speed Force as. Oh, no, last episode was the Fifth Force.

Cristina: The Fifth Force. Okay.

Jack: The Fifth Natural Force.

Cristina: Which looks like magic.

Jack: Which looks like magic. Man, that's the weirdest thing, right? Because the Nothing and the Speed Force could die. That's the problem. The Force could die. You could use the Force.

Cristina: So nothing isn't the Force.

Jack: Nothing isn't.

Cristina: You've been calling, even saying it, we thought it was. It's not. Okay? The whole episode is wrong.

Jack: But, yeah. Yeah, this episode proved last episode wrong.

Cristina: Yeah, but we just found out.

Jack: We just found out. D***. That's crazy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, you can find this and many more episodes of this kind on the official Website great thoughts.info or anywhere you get your podcast, like Apple Podcasts and Spotify and wherever.

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Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And additionally, go listen to me talk to people on the stereo app where I have conversations with people.

Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Like I said before, you walk up and you scream and they'll know. They'll know that what you meant is. The Just Conversation podcast, the episodes about gods and about the fifth natural force and about what the force is and about the nothing.

Cristina: Yep. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye.

Jack: Oh, yes. Yes. Baby cells. Yeah, skin cells.

Cristina: That doesn't make it alive.

Jack: Yes, it's cells.

Cristina: It's leftover though.

Jack: It doesn't matter because it's alive. All of it is alive.

Cristina: It doesn't say that it's alive.

Jack: Cellular lining is living.

Cristina: It's not living while it's on the poop. It's just dead cellular lining.

Jack: No.

Cristina: No one said living cellular lining. Did they say living?

Jack: It said living. It said living on many accounts. Living bacteria.

Cristina: No, but it doesn't say living cellular lining. It just says cellular lining.

Jack: Cellular lining. Living. I don't think Google that.

Cristina: Because our dead bodies have cellular lining.

Jack: Google it.

Cristina: And our dead bodies are dead.

Jack: Google it. But that didn't come out of a dead body.

Cristina: It did come from dead body. It did come from a dead body.

Jack: The poop.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No, the poop is what's dying. We're talking about a poop by itself that's gonna die when death embraces it.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 144: The Five Strong Forces

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If magic part of ‘The Force?’ Are the Cat People of Lochness using magic or highly advanced technology that seems like magic to primitive minds? Is God the source of ‘The Force’ or just another being using its power? The duo unpacks nature’s most complex question and uncovers truths never expected. What is the Fifth Natural Force?

Rambling 144: The Five Strong Forces

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  • Fullmetal Alchemist
  • The Gate
  • God
  • The Force
  • The Nothing
  • Adrenochrome
  • Cat Gods
  • Zombies vs Vampires

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button and to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody to listen to the show with. That's it?

Cristina: That's it?

Jack: That's it.

Cristina: Nothing dangerous.

Jack: Why would end it be dangerous?

Cristina: Because it's always dangerous.

Jack: Who said?

Cristina: You say. You always say.

Jack: I've never used the words dangerous.

Cristina: No, but you suggest horrible things.

Jack: Like what?

Cristina: Like man, what did you suggest last week?

Jack: Who knows? You're making it all up. We don't do the cancer part.

Cristina: We don't do the cancer.

Jack: No, the cancer just happens to people. There's something that's different.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Cancer just happens to people.

Cristina: What about that time where that guy we. Oh, I guess you don't. You say. You said last week though that or an episode or two ago that you don't tell people what to do. You're just saying what a random person is doing.

Jack: Yeah. Because the odds are somebody's doing this. There's 7 billion people in the world.

Cristina: Yes. And one of them is fighting a Gryffindor in the forest.

Jack: A Gryffindor. So to be. So to get this straight, somebody is fighting.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: A wizard. No, out in the forest.

Cristina: Not a wizard. Gryffindor. Not. Oh, not that. Oh crap. Whatever the bird is called. Is it?

Jack: So somebody's fighting a wizard bird?

Cristina: No. What's the bird?

Jack: Cause so for those of you who want to share this show with somebody and you happen to be a wizard from Gryffindor.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You can share this with your classmates.

Cristina: Cassan's fighting a wizard. Okay. No. What is that bird then?

Jack: The griffin.

Cristina: The griffin. Okay. Someone in the forest was fighting a griffin.

Jack: No, they're fighting a Gryffindor. We're talking the end of the world. We have black magic versus white magic and they're going at it in the woods. This is the last Harry Potter film, isn't it? That's what's happening. That took place in the woods or some s***. It was like both in the school and then in the woods. Cuz they were like teleporting back and forth or some s***.

Cristina: I didn't see the last movies. Like, I didn't see lots of those movies.

Jack: I sat down and I saw all of in one sitting.

Cristina: That's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was very bad.

Cristina: Why didn't you do that with Lord of the Rings?

Jack: It would have been about the same amount of time.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: Lord of the Rings is like nine hours long in three movies.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Well, Harry Potter's like an hour and a half each. Yeah, seven movies.

Cristina: Okay, there's a lot of movies. That's a lot of movies. Okay, that's up there. Yeah. Well, not Griffin. Gryffindors.

Jack: Look, the Gryffindors are a dangerous group of people. But there's a good guys, right? Yeah, there's good guys. The Gryffindors. They're dangerous or powerful.

Cristina: There's probably bad Gryffindors, though.

Jack: Aren't all the bad people from, like, Slytherin?

Cristina: There's probably because they slither.

Jack: Yeah, it's probably.

Cristina: That's stereotyping.

Jack: That is stereotyping. That being said, if I were to be a wizard, I'd rather Slytherin. Gryffindor. Pretentious. Like Goody Two Shoes. You guys are whack.

Cristina: I want it to be Ravenclaw.

Jack: Yeah, Ravenclaw works too. Yeah, they're the pretentious intellect douchebags.

Cristina: But I'm not. The hat said Slytherin.

Jack: The hat said Slytherin for you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you're the bad guy.

Cristina: I'm not a bad guy.

Jack: You're a worm. You're slither. You're a snake. You slither.

Cristina: Yes. Whatever.

Jack: I got Ravenclaw.

Cristina: You got Ravenclaw?

Jack: Yeah. I wanted Slytherin because the bad guy's duh.

Cristina: And you got Ravenclaw.

Jack: I got Ravenclaw.

Cristina: That's lame.

Jack: I wanted Slytherin. Slytherin would be cool, dude. Be edgy with the homies. I don't know, just black clothing.

Cristina: They're not edgy.

Jack: They're all edgy. You know who's the most edgy? What the f*** is the name of this annoying kid?

Cristina: The blond one?

Jack: Yeah, the blonde troll.

Cristina: Malfoy.

Jack: Malfoy. He's totally a troll. Yeah, he's an edgy troll.

Cristina: I just know he doesn't have, like, two friends who are. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: That's why I'm saying he's edgy. Not, his friends are edgy.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're also Slytherin.

Jack: I don't know. I feel like they would be from Hufflepuff. Right. I don't know where all the losers go.

Cristina: Do all the. They have to be. There's something unique about them. Right?

Jack: What is Hufflepuff's uniqueness? We're all fat.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Ironically enough, Hufflepuff. No, wait, that other kid is from Gryffindor. He hangs out in the same class as Harry. The other kid who was. Yeah, no, the kid who was gonna be the other guy who just had total roll of the dice of being the chosen one.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. I think he is Gryffindor.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: There's a crazy storm happening outside for anybody who's listening right now.

Cristina: So in case you hear it.

Jack: Yeah. In case you hear this crazy storm in the background. Right now we're on Mars and there's quite a heavy. We didn't even know Mars had storms. We thought that was like a Saturn exclusive thing or some s***. Is it Saturn or Venus? Sat we. One of the planets in our f****** system has a crazy. Yeah, there's a bunch with storms. Like some of one of our plants is raining acid or something. I don't f****** know. But yeah. So there's a storm going on up here. It's a very heavy dust storm. And there's rain, which is weird because that means there's water, which we haven't seen. But also, this isn't technically our Mars.

Cristina: Exactly. Yeah. And it's probably. We like where we placed it might not be exactly where Mars was supposed to be.

Jack: So like we're estimating, like.

Cristina: Yeah, it was pretty. I guess there's no way we could have picked the exact specific.

Jack: Hey, look, at least we've fixed the gravity of the system. That's what matters.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The system was gonna go to. And we saved the system from going to. So we're heroes.

Cristina: Yes. And now it rains.

Jack: And now it rains on Mars. Because Mars of planet Mars 2 universe 2 Mars too.

Cristina: Well, that's a good thing. Maybe things will live here, start growing. Yeah.

Jack: D***. You think it's because we place weird that it rains now?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You think the soup. The sub humans are like using the rain to like, torture things. Like holding werewolves underwater. Like f******. What is it called when you put the f******.

Cristina: Like the waterboard.

Jack: Waterboarding. You think they're using it to waterboard people?

Cristina: I don't know. I'm not watching them, man.

Jack: That's fire.

Cristina: That's what they do.

Jack: Yeah, I don't ask questions. No, I mean, I literally just ask questions.

Cristina: You just. Exactly.

Jack: So, yeah, like, I show up after the abuse happens. And I'm like, all right, f****** cat person, you stupid bottom of the barrel cat guy. Tell me where your leaders are.

Cristina: That's why you asked them?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Do you actually want to know?

Jack: Yeah. That's actually why we're gonna go and attack the cat gods.

Cristina: The cat gods. There's. Why are we fighting gods?

Jack: Well, they call them gods. I'm sure they're just like powerful aliens or something.

Cristina: Oh, all right. Like, they're just more cat people.

Jack: Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming. And we also have the technology to get there now with the pyramids and the lasers and the, you know.

Cristina: Yes. And we got zombies. We can make them fight our war.

Jack: That's. That's interesting. Right? Like, because the idea here is we have an island filled with zombies and we have a bunch of sub humans who are, like, way better than all the humans and super soldiers that have ever existed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we can send a bunch of zombies ahead just to mindlessly destroy everything, and then send the subhumans to clean out the zombies after they've taken care of all of the cat people.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But then we got a weird problem, because there's cat people. Zombies, maybe.

Cristina: That might be worse than that might be worse if they have magic and they're zombies.

Jack: Yeah, that was the f****** thing about the cat people. Right. There was magic. So the cat people have magic abilities.

Cristina: That's probably dangerous.

Jack: D***. It's hard to follow the lore of this, but, yeah, I'm pretty sure the cat people are entirely magic, right?

Cristina: Yes, they are.

Jack: They are. And we were comparing their magic to the reptilian science. Interesting.

Cristina: Exactly. Yeah. Because it's so advanced looking.

Jack: Yes, because the reptilian science is so advanced that it might as well be magic. Which then brings up the question of whether what the cat people have is really magic or just technology. So advanced it even looks like magic compared to the reptilian technology.

Cristina: I don't know. It might be magic. I don't know. Maybe it comes from the forest. Is that where we were talking about before? Not them, but the forest with the glass.

Jack: The Gryffindor force, where the Gryffindors are fighting right now.

Cristina: The. The Flash. Where his power comes from.

Jack: Oh, the Speed Force.

Cristina: The Speed Force. Where we think all the powers come from.

Jack: Interesting. Well, that would be science, wouldn't it?

Cristina: Would that be science?

Jack: Would that be science? Are you telling me that the Flash is magic?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: The argument would be that if the Speed Force is real, yes. It's the Fifth Force. It's Just science. It's part of the universe.

Cristina: Okay. My gosh. Because I. I don't remember if you mentioned this, but what about full metal alchemists?

Jack: Right. They get their source of power from another universe.

Cristina: Is it another universe or is it the Force?

Jack: No, it's another you. They. I mean, here's the. Okay, I like your question. Right. Because there's some thought to be given here. We know that in universe A, Edward Al, as well as all the other alchemists, use their powers.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they can. Alchemy happens. But when they perform alchemy in this side, somebody dies. In the other universe, that's a trade off. Okay, so they're using the life of people from the other universe.

Cristina: Is that really what's happening?

Jack: I believe so.

Cristina: I don't know. I thought the other universe was just their place, but without the magic.

Jack: It is your place without the magic.

Cristina: But I didn't know death was happening.

Jack: Yes, they cause death every time they use alchemy.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: I believe so, yes. Okay. After looking it up. Yes. So somebody dying on Earth sends the energy to their universe and then they can use it for alchemy.

Cristina: That means that. But when they use alchemy, they're not murdering someone. It's just someone dies. The energy has to go somewhere. It goes to over there.

Jack: The argument would be that those two scenarios are connected. Rather than somebody die and the energy waits and lingers. Somebody dying and doing alchemy are simultaneous.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So instead of saying because he did alchemy, somebody died or somebody died, that the energy goes to the other side and waits for alchemy to be done. There's no difference between the two scenarios.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Alchemy being performed and somebody dying are simultaneous.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's not that one caused the other in any kind of way.

Cristina: Interesting. So they.

Jack: So the question is, how is that connected to this? To the force?

Cristina: Yeah, because there. There's no. I mean, it's automatic.

Jack: Yeah, it's instant.

Cristina: It's. Maybe it looks instant, but it's not instant.

Jack: It could be the case. But how would we prove that? It would just be a total guess. We know death equals energy for alchemy. Yes, that's. That's what we have.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

Jack: As well as we know, the two scenarios that are tangled together are World War II and the attack on Ishbal. Those are real scenarios that are probably happening simultaneously. So getting rid of the Ishbalans and is equal to the Germans getting rid of the Jews. This giant crazy massacre. And now as the Jews die on.

Cristina: Earth, that's giving enough energy to.

Jack: That gives enough energy for these guys to create some powerful alchemy and a mistress.

Cristina: Yeah, but that was like. It's so intertwined that you don't know which one came first to the other.

Jack: And then response. The counterparts are still dying in a mistress.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the universe is balancing itself out at all times.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Perfectly equal exchange.

Cristina: Yes. Then how does that relate. Oh, my gosh. That's interesting.

Jack: Is it? Now the question is, if everything is based on the Force, this would also have to be based on the Force.

Cristina: That's. But how?

Jack: But how? Either we're not understanding how the Force works.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or there's something.

Cristina: Because we've talked about how the Force is different. Like how in Transformers, it's just automatic. Like, they are attached to. They are the Force. Pretty much.

Jack: They don't need some. Some vessel. They are the vessel.

Cristina: Yeah. So using in some way like that, where they are it or their counterparts. The World2 version is what the Transformer is like. They are the energy. They are the magic. Whatever.

Jack: I don't get it.

Cristina: Like, even though they can't use magic, it's because the magic is inside them.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: They die. The magic goes to another place for.

Jack: Them to use, so then they can't use it. You're saying there's transformers that can't transform without their counterpart dying?

Cristina: Oh, no, that's true. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I don't know. That's very.

Jack: It's complicated. Right. Because in every instant, we've had some connection to how the. Everything connects to the Force. And then we get to Full Metal Alchemist, and the question is, how does it connect to the Force? We know energy from one side equals the powers of the other.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If we didn't know that people were dying on one side, we'd assume the Force is where they're getting this ability from.

Cristina: Yeah, but.

Jack: And it looks like lightning. A lot of the times are doing it just like force. There's electrical surges and lights and energy being used. Literal energy that we can see.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Then maybe it does relate to what's going on here.

Jack: Okay. Option B. The entire universe. Universe is the multiverse.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Works exactly the same way.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And what's happening is the Force isn't just the Force. It's literal life energy.

Cristina: Yes. We're murdering people. Every time Flash runs, he's killing someone.

Jack: Or people are dying. Reality the idea would be, I mean.

Cristina: Not reality, a different universe.

Jack: The whole universe?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we know that in Star wars they're using the Force, but they're in a galaxy way the f*** away. So it's not an Earth thing. Energy of the universe. So people dying in a universe equate to energy existing in another. And it's a one direction thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So whatever universe B is funnels energy to universe A always and only in that direction.

Cristina: So if your universe doesn't have magic, you're probably. It's probably crap there.

Jack: You're probably the people who are dying to create magic.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: On the flip side, it could be a chain. So let's say that instead of us being universe A, we are universe B. We get energy from universe C, but we die giving energy to universe A.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And when people in universe A die, that energy goes to universe C. And so it's all connected always.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Thus there is a potential energy which then goes to say what you meant. There is just energy kind of lingering to be used. So when they die, it's not in sync necessarily. Maybe in their case it is, but in other instances, no.

Cristina: Yeah, because they just know about A and B. But there might be a cd, whatever.

Jack: It might just be always bouncing back around. A good way to think about this is the, the movie, the one.

Cristina: Which one's the one that's with jet.

Jack: Liquid and the multiverse, where he goes around jumping from universe to universe, killing all the versions of himself.

Cristina: Alright, Right.

Jack: So one guy is getting younger and stronger throughout the course of his life and he doesn't know why he becomes superhumanly strong and fast. He becomes a cop. He's an op cop. And then he finds out there's a guy, another version of him, who's been traveling from universe to universe, killing all the versions of himself to gain the power.

Cristina: So as that guy gets stronger, so is he.

Jack: So is he. Because the universe is evenly distributed between everybody of the same ability.

Cristina: Oh, wow. Okay, now these are two.

Jack: The problem here is in the one, the energy is divided evenly amongst everybody in all the 20, whatever, many universes.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While Fullmetal Alchemist, it's one directional. The question is, is it truly one directional?

Cristina: It might not be because we just, we just don't understand how the whole connection.

Jack: In the case of alchemy specifically, maybe that type of energy usage means it's taking it from somewhere directly. So if you do alchemy in this universe, you took it from C. But if somebody in universe A did alchemy Somehow they would just off somebody in our universe.

Cristina: Yeah. Wait, which, if you have to say.

Jack: The letters again, we're B.

Cristina: Where? B. Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And if A uses it, B, someone.

Jack: Somebody dies here.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And we don't even know it. We're just like, well, somebody died.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that's energy over there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or there is, in fact, a lingering energy that's accessible from any universe at any given moment. But then why couldn't the people in universe C use energy from people dying here in universe B? Unless they just simply don't have alchemy, which we know they don't. Yeah, that universe, that, for the physics, doesn't allow for alchemy. But if they could.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They would be tapping into that same energy.

Cristina: Yeah. But why can't they?

Jack: Different universe. That's all it is. Physics.

Cristina: Yes, the physics are different. All right. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: So the potential energy is still there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's just not being used through alchemy, because that's impossible.

Cristina: But there might be another way they can use it. They just haven't figured that out yet.

Jack: Or they are using it and we weren't shown what that is.

Cristina: Yes, that too. Oh, yes. That solves it.

Jack: So that could explain. That could keep the force consistent.

Cristina: Yes. Wait, how did he get into the other universe?

Jack: Somebody created a portal and pushed him through to get rid of him.

Cristina: Oh, okay. And the door with knowledge thing, what is that? That's nothing. Yeah, the gate. That's not where they get their alchemy from. That's only related.

Jack: I think that's where it goes through.

Cristina: From between worlds.

Jack: Well, it's knowledge or something. That might be the physical location of the Speed Force or the Force. That creature is the living force.

Cristina: The living force. Okay, because I was thinking that that's where it came from, but I wasn't sure. But then you said it came from the other.

Jack: Yes, we know. People die on the other side to give the energy.

Cristina: Yeah. If I was thinking that the Force was in the actual physical location.

Jack: Well, knowledge is there. Maybe that is the Force's home. But the Force itself is the being that's there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Rather than the location.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: And so energy goes through it. It requires. Because it can connect. It connects everything to all the universes he's in.

Cristina: I just finished reading the Witcher, and in that book, the girl sees a door, and that reminded me of the. The. The gate. Because she's learning magic.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: And that's where the magic comes from. Not physically, but in her mind. That's what she sees it as. And it's like, oh, crap, that reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist. But then that connected me to the other episode that we were talking about magic and, like, where it comes from. Because here everyone can get. Use the magic. Well, not everyone can use the magic, but people who can learn how to use the magic, they're all getting it from the same place.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Like, the source is the same.

Jack: Interesting. So the energy ultimately comes from the same place. So then we were. If we were to say this. Any. Anybody who learns to do anything, whether it looks like power, it looks like magic, it's all the same thing. We're just doing it differently.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the Gryffindors are using the Force.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You can, in theory, pin the class of Gryffindor versus the Sith and have them go at it. Sith, lightning. And then somebody does a chant and waves their wand and boom. You're like fighting on equal terms.

Cristina: Yeah. Because they're all getting in this from the same place, I'm assuming. Yeah.

Jack: It's all coming from the Force one way or another.

Cristina: Yeah. What? What?

Jack: The greater energy.

Cristina: That's fascinating, but we all see it as something different.

Jack: We all see it as something. It's like religion. We're all talking about the same thing, but we're all calling it something different. Yes, but it is the same thing. This is. Everybody figured out how to use it differently, and we're all being disciplined differently on how to use exactly the same thing.

Cristina: Yes. That's interesting. It's like meditation. Like, there's a whole bunch of. A bunch of ways to use that and different schoolings for that. Like, there's a right way, but there's not really a right way.

Jack: It's not really a right way. You can meditate just by doing art, by playing an instrument. You can meditate by prayer. You can meditate by literally sitting there and humming and, like, uniting with a note. Distract your mind. There's so many. You can meditate. Flow states. Flow states. Your meditation.

Cristina: It's a huge variety. Like, unlimited. Yeah, variety.

Jack: Whatever can pull you into a state of thoughtlessness.

Cristina: But there's also people that say there's the right way of doing it, which.

Jack: Is incorrect because there is no right way. The only wrong is believing you're right.

Cristina: Yes. And that's the same with magic now.

Jack: Well, it's not even magic. It's just a form of energy. Yeah, Magic is a form of energy. Powers are a form of energy, which means when you have the X gene, that mutates in your body. That mutation just connects you to the Force.

Cristina: The Force X gene. That's. What is that?

Jack: Marvel X Men?

Cristina: X Men? Yeah.

Jack: That'S. That's just connecting you to the Force.

Cristina: Yeah. We talked about Superman having the Force, too.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He literally uses light.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: His people are people inherently connected to the Force.

Cristina: Yeah. So even the X Men are using the Force in their DNA? Pretty much.

Jack: Well, their DNA can. Yeah, I guess something about the mutation they go through allows them to connect more directly to the Force.

Cristina: Is it possible then, that people who use magic just might have the X gene and don't even know it?

Jack: Interesting. Well, here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Right? People who use the X gene and people who use magic, when you. I mean, I guess you have to be born into magic, right? Is that the argument?

Cristina: No. I don't know. Most of the time, I feel like. Yes, yes. It's like very rare occasions where you don't need to be born. It just takes a little longer to learn. Like Hermione. Hermione. That's her name. She's not magic born.

Jack: Oh, s***. You're right. She just learned it.

Cristina: Yes. But it took her extra, extra long, I guess. I'm assuming, like, she had to study way more than everyone else.

Jack: Yeah. So it didn't take her longer. She had to work harder.

Cristina: Yes. That's why. I mean. Yes, she had to work harder.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. I think you're definitely right.

Cristina: So.

Jack: Yeah, there's always a way. It just makes it easier. So the argument would be you don't need the X gene because there are some people who haven't mutated and still have abilities. Again, Superman's people. Unless they do have the X gene.

Cristina: They definitely do. They. They do, yes.

Jack: Because it's inherent. They're born with it.

Cristina: Yes. Goku's people.

Jack: Goku's people. Interesting. While humans are just human, regardless of how you're looking at it. So you got to learn. Either have some sort of vessel, have a tool that allows you to channel the power through it. Wands or.

Cristina: Wands is the popular choice.

Jack: This is a popular choice. Yeah. That seems to be like the Go To.

Cristina: Witches don't use wands, but they're. They're using the weakest level of magic because they're not really witches or anything. They just have the weakest, easiest to learn simplest tricks.

Jack: Yes, but it's also still magic because they do have tools that allow them to go through those abilities. So they'll have a hex bag. They'll have, you know, grab some of this dirt, grab some of that thing. And, like, you're still using the tools of. Then another thing would be. Right. We just talked about meditation. Yeah, but when you're doing witchcraft, you're trying to tune into nature, the elemental natures, which usually requires meditation in the first place. So you get the elements you need, you get the picture of whoever. You get a couple of natural, like, a leaf, some rock, some dirt, a.

Cristina: Thing from this place, avatar elements, crap.

Jack: Like that, and then you put it together to try to focus your energy and tune into this force more deeply, to control it better. So meditation connects you to the Force the same way people believe prayer is allowing them to make, like, wishes come true. Almost like if I pray and I ask for a thing, it'll happen while you're meditating. And something about that meditation is allowing you to bend the Force.

Cristina: Yeah. And the Force.

Jack: So God is the Force. The same way that this creature, who we call God and Full Metal Alchemist, that exists in between the gates.

Cristina: Is the forest.

Jack: Is the forest.

Cristina: It's the forest.

Jack: God is the Force.

Cristina: Yep. All right, so we're getting our energy.

Jack: From God or the forest.

Cristina: Or the forest. Yeah.

Jack: It's weird because there are versions of it that are sentient, thinking things. The question is, is that our perception of it, or is that objectively the truth? Like, do some people see it as a thinking thing? Do other people not? The flash talks to the Force.

Cristina: I think it depends on the person because Ciri saw it as a door, but in Fullmetal Alchemist, they see it as a gate, so it really depends on the person.

Jack: Well, both of those things are just a doorway. In Full Metal Alchemist, he saw what's on the other side of the gate, and it was this creature.

Cristina: Well, yeah. Okay, well, but that came from him.

Jack: Did Ciri see what's on the other side of the door, or did she just see the door?

Cristina: She just saw the door.

Jack: So we don't know what's on the other side of that door?

Cristina: No, no. Oh, you think someone's in there behind her? I mean, she might have. I don't know. I feel like it was her past memories, though, or something. And then after she was able to relive that, then she was able to finally use the Force.

Jack: Okay, okay. There was nothing first, and then there was God and darkness. You have to die out of existence to see the nothing supernatural. Okay, so that exists in such a way that even God in the darkness are younger, not older than the Nothing.

Cristina: Huh? What do you mean?

Jack: God gets his energy from the nothing. The Force.

Cristina: The Force.

Jack: Wait, the Nothing is the ultimate first thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then God or death. It's not clear. God, death, and darkness all sort of happen simultaneously.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And nothing came first.

Cristina: Yeah. So the nothing. Of course.

Jack: That's my question. Right. Because the Nothing God from Full Metal Alchemist. The same f****** thing. And the consciousness of the Force. All those things have just always been.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While God and supernatural had to come into existence.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's no explanation when or how. We just know that.

Cristina: Yes. We know that three things came out around the same time.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: He's got his sister.

Jack: And they were only predated by nothing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which arguably doesn't really make sense in Supernatural because nothing is literally a thing.

Cristina: Yeah. Whatever.

Jack: Depiction. I get it. I get it. You can't show us another thing.

Cristina: Yeah. It's like.

Jack: Get it. I get it. It's you. You're excused.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But looks pretty interesting to say that both the Nothing and God from Fullmetalchemist are the same thing. They're also this sort of shapeless goo or something.

Cristina: They're nothing.

Jack: They're nothing.

Cristina: They're nothing. There's. You're trying really hard to see something in the nothing, and that's why you get this shapeless goo.

Jack: Yes. But so are those two things the same thing? And is that the Force?

Cristina: I will say yes, because the Force.

Jack: Is pure energy and thus it is also shapeless.

Cristina: Should be. But we all see something in it. And that's why there's God in the first place. Because we got to see something.

Jack: Yeah. And some people don't see God, but they. But the question is, like, do the people of Superman have God, or is that just a thought that doesn't cross their mind because they're naturally connected to the Force Already they got pure spiritualism. No religion.

Cristina: I don't know much about Superman, though. It maybe. Are they spiritual beings?

Jack: I don't know. That's literally what I just asked.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know.

Jack: So that's interesting to think that there is a pure or something that everything, including God himself, is connecting to.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Then the argument would be, is God just one of the beings most directly connected? And they can use larger chunks. A long time ago, we had an episode where we talked about God's existence being only there to try to create another God so that God can sort of die off finally.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's going to do whatever he can to create another God. Is it because it's really hard to teach something to use the force.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so in small scales, adrenochrome is a way to connect to it.

Cristina: Oh, crap, I forgot about adrenochrome. That's. That's our planet's magic. Okay. Yeah.

Jack: It's a shortcut.

Cristina: It's our shortcut. Yeah.

Jack: So we don't have alchemy.

Cristina: You don't have alchemy.

Jack: We have adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes. Forget about that. Yes. And God uses that. Yeah.

Jack: We have science and adrenochrome. Those are our two keys.

Cristina: I guess we do have magic. We don't have magic, but we know people who do have magic, which are the cat people that you mentioned.

Jack: Yes. Unless that's not magic.

Cristina: Unless that's not magic.

Jack: Which is why we need to go wage war and find out.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because if there is magic, then there's something we're not understanding about our universe, which is actually why we're here on Mars in the first place. Before the stupid f****** storm showed up. We're here to interrogate the f****** cats.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because we need to find out if it's actually magic. And because they're not talking, we can at least get out of them specific location. We need exact coordinates so that we can use the pyramid technology.

Cristina: Oh, the pyramid technology. That's so complicated. Oh, I don't want to ride that. Well, it's not really a ride. It's like beaming up.

Jack: Yeah. But we will be instantly there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're using entanglement. It's just in one side, out the other, boom, we're there instantaneously. Yeah, but the idea is, is what they're using really magic or they just really, really advanced? Because if what they are using is magic, then we have a problem which is we don't necessarily understand s*** about our universe at that point. If it turns out to just be that they are so scientifically advanced that it looks like magic, that's acceptable.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because adrenochrome would be the closest thing to magic we have.

Cristina: I'm assuming that they're using adrenochrome.

Jack: It could probably turn out to be adrenochrome, that they're using it somehow. Because at the end of the day, they are f****** camp people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We have cats on Earth that are just feline, normal a** cats.

Cristina: Yeah. When we were worshiping cat gods, were we not with.

Jack: The question is that those cat gods end up. Were they just like a cat drank blood that was drowning in adrenaline? Thus it is adrenochrome and this cat developed hyper intelligence. And then it's like, I need more of this to sustain this intellect.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then when that happened successfully, he then gave it to other cats, bringing their intellect up, making them superior over the humans who didn't have access to it and didn't know what it was. And then these cat people became the future cat gods. But it's all just technology because adrenochrome gave them the intellect to have hyper intelligent, hyper advanced technology sooner that's possible.

Cristina: But also there's a chance we just gave it to the cat. Like we do it with a beaver. We probably did it with a bunch of random animals.

Jack: It could. It could be the case. So the argument in there would be that we in the old days used to make sacrifices to gods, and the same way Indians used to or so believe that cows are gods. Imagine giving a cow adrenochrome, except in this case, it's a cat. And it was the Egyptians and they sacrificed somebody, gave them adrenochrome drenched blood to actual cat, an actual cat. And this cat, whether it be like a lion or something, becomes super smart, super intelligent.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then bipedal and everything, like, just starts giving it to the other f******. And then all these other creatures start being born. Like, I'm in a. I'm aligned with adrenochrome and I have a cub. That cub comes out half human almost, because its physiology changes, being born with me using this all the time.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then those become the gods and they're so intelligent that they have advanced technologies. And then as the rest of humanity across the world, starts gaining traction and becoming more technological, they dip and cross the universe to get the f*** away from the most dangerous creature. The human.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they just kept evolving over there. The question is, are all creatures like apes as well? We know that if you give a creature adrenochrome and then you take away adrenochrome, they become feral.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But we know if you give a creature adrenochrome, they become this advanced version of themselves, right?

Cristina: Yes. Oh, you know, what did they get?

Jack: Did we as apes get adrenochrome and thus humans?

Cristina: That's why I'm gonna say yes. Because the cat people, we haven't given them blood or anything, and they're perfectly fine. We don't need blood either. We're perfectly fine if we came from something. If they came from something like a cat, the cat needed adrenochrome. But they're so far into the evolution of what they are, they don't need.

Jack: They don't need it anymore, so we.

Cristina: Don'T eat it anymore.

Jack: We didn't think of the rules of birth before because we know. Okay, so you get adrenochrome, you become something way advanced.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. So werewolf is the earthly version. Now, if you transcend, you become a. What was it? A wet judge. But if you get it taken away, you stay on this side and become a win dingo.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you become the feral version of the wolf. Right. So werewolves is hyper intelligent, really over now, not everybody gets intelligent, but most creatures do. In the case of humans, we were just the apes that took the adrenochrome and then reproduced on adrenochrome before going feral. Because we're just thinking of the host taking it, not what their children would be like because it is blood and it has DNA and then they reproduce on it and we're just the next generation. And you repeat that. So several cultures still take it having more children that are less dependent on it and then again less dependent on it. You repeat this over and over until you end up at a creature that doesn't need it at all.

Cristina: Yeah, we don't need it.

Jack: We don't need it.

Cristina: We do, though, in that to use the power that it gives.

Jack: Yes. So we can still benefit from it no matter what. Yeah, any living thing that uses it can still benefit from it.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: Okay, now back to the bigger picture. Is God who needs to create another God? Is this part of his plan? Is God who gave it to both the cat people and gave it to the he to the like the apes to create humans? Is God just running a bunch of these experiments wherever he possibly can? And like, the closest, at least that we know of, are the cat people. They're way up there. Yeah, but we're like as far as compared to them. I guess we're just not as advanced. But we're the next best. At least compared to everything else on this planet. But maybe there's way more.

Cristina: Yeah. And wait, are the cockroach people.

Jack: Could have been. Could have been there. They were highly advanced. Nothing left.

Cristina: I mean, what else do we have?

Jack: Lizard people, the reptilians. But the reptilians aren't even from this universe. They were invaders.

Cristina: They were invaders, but from another planet or something.

Jack: The universe.

Cristina: Another universe. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. They were traveling back and forth. That's how we ended up getting that.

Jack: Portal in the center of the universe, in the center of Earth.

Cristina: Oh, it gets so complicated.

Jack: Yeah. The lore of this is.

Cristina: Yes. Well, we know he wants to make another God to die. That's for sure.

Jack: I mean, that's. It does. Maybe not to die, but, like, get the h*** out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Whatever the case might be, we wouldn't understand what the next step for God is.

Cristina: I think it's the die.

Jack: You think it's. What is death at that point? Because you need to transcend death, that's all. Like, at least our understanding of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You need to get beyond the point of dying, then.

Cristina: Yeah. If you're a God, you don't need to die, do you?

Jack: I don't know what that would mean.

Cristina: What would that mean? I don't know.

Jack: Like, at least our version of death wouldn't make sense.

Cristina: Because if he's the one that's giving us energy. I don't know.

Jack: Also, weird thought. If God exists throughout all of time, wouldn't he already exist, the point at which he made the God?

Cristina: Yeah. So that doesn't work either.

Jack: That doesn't work. There's something we're not getting about that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Unless God is bound by time as well, and he's just a demigod. And our understanding of demigod is what's f***** up. Because maybe there is a God who's everywhere, knows everything and whatever, but he is still stuck within time.

Cristina: But the guy that we're talking about isn't God, though. He's just a person who. Or a thing that had too much adrenochrome themselves.

Jack: Yes. Because they were made the same way. They're trying to figure out how to make us because they weren't given the blueprints for how they became God.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They just got there through the processes that they're trying to replicate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which then brings us to, like, vampire hunter dude, Dracula trying to replicate. And so, yes, he wants to. What is the series of steps that could lead to a perfect me?

Cristina: Why? But I don't know. I want to know why, actually. Yes, I definitely.

Jack: One of two things happen when you become godlike. One of two things. One, you completely detach and nothing matters.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Superman, after he outlives everybody around him and he realizes infinite danger is always going to keep coming. I don't need to stop anything. It's going to keep happening. Dr. Manhattan just goes. Literally comes here to Mars, sits and meditates forever.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Or Dracula, Jehovah, trying to recreate themselves.

Cristina: Those are types of gods.

Jack: Two different types of gods.

Cristina: And then there's Deadpool, though, and he's just random.

Jack: Yeah. Deadpool's a weird one, because he exists in some sort of outer dimension thing where he can just, like, kind of not die. And like.

Cristina: Although I guess he's like a greater God than those gods in a way.

Jack: Because, I mean, I guess if the problem is he exists in a panel situation, that's really hard to even explain what's happening. Because if we assume that the page is the universe within each box.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Every single panel is inside the universe, and the page itself is the outside of the universe. He's the only character we know who is aware that there is an outside of the panel, can jump from one to the other. So I don't know what exactly is happening there. He's just a real.

Cristina: Does he know that we exist?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He knows that us, as the viewer exists, which is also weird. He knows we're reading or we're watching.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But that's why he doesn't even count. He's some sort of other s*** that's unexplainable.

Cristina: Well, that's way higher than the gods that we're talking about.

Jack: I mean, literally, Death is in love with the fact that she can't comprehend them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which then makes Thanos a jellyfuck.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He says, oh, my God, but I want your attention, Death.

Cristina: But what is God? Well, he's not Deadpool, for sure, but.

Jack: He'S not the Speed Force or the Force, because he himself is trying to use it. And his way of connecting to it is adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He himself requires adrenochrome, which means that he is not the Force. There is the other thing that is a force. And again, if we use supernatural, then we have Death, Darkness and God coming to be simultaneously or around the same time. It's not really clear who came first. We know God and Darkness happen simultaneously. We're not sure if death came first or second.

Cristina: Yes, but in our universe, our God is God. Darkness and death in one being.

Jack: That's not entirely clear, because if we follow the Bible, we literally have death, God and life God, Old Testament, New Testament.

Cristina: But they might have been the same thing.

Jack: Why would that make sense? Why would we have a guy who's all ruthlessly.

Cristina: Well, those books are wrong. So it doesn't even matter what those books say, do they?

Jack: What version of God are we using them?

Cristina: The one that we're coming up with, I guess, from what we see.

Jack: What do we see?

Cristina: He has to be all of them.

Jack: Then he wouldn't interact with anything. There'd be zero reason to interact with anything.

Cristina: Because he'd be everything but nothing.

Jack: He can't be nothing because nothing would be the force.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean.

Jack: Well, then he wouldn't need adrenochrome if he was all of everything except for the nothing. Yeah. There has to be things he's not in order to try to get to that thing.

Cristina: Okay. Okay. So he has to just be.

Jack: He's some other thing that is independent from the force.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Which we. So at this point, we're saying that there are five natural forces. The weak force, the strong force, electromagnetism and gravity. And the force. The force, weak force, strong force, the force, electromagnetism, gravity. Where does God fit in that he uses.

Cristina: He uses them.

Jack: None of them, actually.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Well, okay.

Cristina: What is he.

Jack: We got to go into the most abstract version of. I guess a different episode. I don't even know if we had this conversation on an episode or if you and I were just having conversations separately. In which consciousness observes the nothing and then generates the universe. It sees the universe in nothing when it observes it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So consciousness exists and nothingness, whatever word would describe whatever's happening there, the combination of them equals the five forces. So God isn't any of the five forces. God is a product of some of the forces and then tries to use some of the forces. God has to just be a being.

Cristina: Okay, He's. But he's just a being that has too much adrenochrome.

Jack: Yes. And that level of adrenal chrome allows him to use the force and manipulate. I guess it's. Manipulate all of the forces.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: As God, you can create a planet, so you can create mass, which then generates immense gravity, which then has electromagnetic properties that uses the weak and strong forces. And you did that all by using the force. So all five forces. Yeah, all five forces are just products of consciousness observing nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It is so complicated.

Cristina: Well, hopefully these cats gets us closer to this problem. Or not problem, this mystery.

Jack: Yeah. Because if it turns out that it is, in fact magic. What the f***?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like what? How do we consolidate that?

Cristina: It's impossible.

Jack: It's impossible.

Cristina: It can't be. It just can't.

Jack: It's too complicated.

Cristina: It's too complicated. The force is science.

Jack: The force has to be just. Yeah, it has to be just a product of the Big Bang, like everything else.

Cristina: Yeah, has to be.

Jack: The Big Bang led to all. And the Big Bang is no more than just consciousness observing nothing. Right. It has to be. And that would answer everything. All of media, all of nature. All of everything is just a product of these five different forces that control everything.

Cristina: Yeah, I think so. That sounds right.

Jack: How are we able to move? It has to be that everything is inherently connected to the force and we just use things to control it more and more. But like the fact that I can talk to you right now. Something is powering me. There's something powering me no matter what.

Cristina: Yes. And it's gotta be the same thing.

Jack: The same thing. If I could tune into that more, that can use it more and maybe do weird things that seem unnatural because I'm using more of whatever is powering me.

Cristina: Mm So I had. I don't know, so many questions. I don't know. That's. It's complicated.

Jack: It is very complicated. But there is definitely a crossing, like crossing lines there. We know that at least all of anybody using powers is using the same energy potentially one way or another, different ways to use the same thing, whether it be higher. Because again, we are being kept alive. Right. Something is moving us and then gene mutation allows you to have stronger access to it. And then you got weird abilities. That makes perfect sense if it's already.

Cristina: Forcing through your body into all this though.

Jack: Zombies aren't really dead.

Cristina: Okay. They're still us.

Jack: Yeah. They just got way low brain function.

Cristina: But they are also after adrenocurl. Like what are they doing?

Jack: That's the only thing keeping them alive actually.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Because when they. I. I don't know how to hunts for people. That's not right either.

Jack: But I guess it kind of is. Hunting.

Cristina: It's hunting for people, right?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What are they, what are they after?

Jack: They don't know what they're after. They just instinctively drawn to the thing that's going to keep them alive.

Cristina: Yes. And then. So they go hunt for a living person.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And then once that person's dead, they move on. But.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: What are they getting from that person?

Jack: The blood probably.

Cristina: Yes. That's. Isn't that straight? Well, maybe. Right, like.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What else could it be?

Jack: Well, we already also know that factually the difference between both a zombie and a vampire is how the energy is to distributed. And the one thing they have in common is blood. A vampire burns through it quickly and a zombie uses it slowly.

Cristina: What if they're actually after adrenochrome or the fear part of Adrenochrome? Since they don't need much energy, maybe that's enough to scare the person. But they still need to kill the person.

Jack: They need to kill the person. They gotta Eat. They're really eating for the blood.

Cristina: But they're not really eating. Because they're not eating. They can't eat. They're dead. There's nothing happening in their stomach.

Jack: They're not dead.

Cristina: But they're not. They're not you. That's not functioning.

Jack: Who says their body is functioning?

Cristina: Their body's functioning.

Jack: That's how they are moving.

Cristina: But their stomach is not functioning.

Jack: It might be functioning at a way slower pace.

Cristina: I feel like they're just murdering and that's it.

Jack: The fact that a zombie can starve in every version of Zombie except the ones from the Walking Dead. Oh, I guess in 28 days later. They starve in 28 days.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay. I was thinking, I guess, just of the Walking Dead. Okay.

Jack: So they can pose. There's something weird about their thing in Walking Dead that's unexplained.

Cristina: Okay. So normally they need something in their tummy.

Jack: Yes. The argument would be that whatever's happening in the Walking Dead is unrelated. But if we use like, 28 days later, it takes 28 days for them to starve.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay.

Jack: And the only difference between a zombie and a vampire is that a vampire uses the energy rapidly because it's throwing it into crazy high stats of you run faster, you think faster, you're way stronger. While a zombie is like, none of that s***. Just. Just stamina. The end.

Cristina: That's it? Yeah.

Jack: Just stamina. Nothing else. I don't move fast, I don't think at all. It's just survival and stamina.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And so a zombie can burn through it much slower while a vampire runs its energy supply quicken the needs more before they become feral.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: Arguably, a zombie is always in its feral state.

Cristina: What about the feral zombies?

Jack: It's awesome.

Cristina: Oh, okay. She's in. What is it? Fallout. There's two different zombies.

Jack: Well, those zombies have nothing to do with blood or eating people. That's all radiation.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. Those are alive people. Okay. Yeah.

Jack: Feral zombies are people who've just gone crazy.

Cristina: Yeah. And the regular ones are just people.

Jack: Yeah. They didn't go crazy. They can handle being turned into whatever this s*** is.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: Okay. So we're very aware that this is. This just got complicated. At least now I'm more motivated to ask these f****** questions, man. These cat people, dude. Like, what if the answer is that it's magic? Like, what if we get there and we find out there was no technological advancement? They really just learned how to. Then what is happening? They must have the X gene.

Cristina: Or some equivalent could be it. We gotta look into their genesis. Yeah, we do.

Jack: Yeah, we have to. Because the argument would be is what's happening with Gryffindor? Gryffindor magic. Are they really casting a magic spell when they chant, do a thing. Are we gonna have to go question some of these people?

Cristina: No, I think they're using the force like the witchers and the witches from the witcher.

Jack: They're connecting to nature somehow.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're connecting to nature.

Jack: And so even if it looks like no scientific advancement went through the cat people, it just might be connecting to the force somehow. So if we get back. Oh, it's magic. Well no, not really because magic is just a way of connecting to the force. The question is how is their method connecting to the force? That's really what we got to try to answer.

Cristina: Yes. I think that's the real thing that we need to figure out. Yes.

Jack: Yeah. Because no matter what, it's probably connecting to the force.

Cristina: Mm. We gotta look into their DNA as well.

Jack: Yeah. So luckily we have a couple here that they could. We could just run some experiments on. And when we got some answers off of the ones that we're not running experiments off of, we can then get to those coordinates and go find out what's happening over there.

Cristina: Yeah. See how it turned out. They're like X men.

Jack: Yeah. Well that's why I got the sub humans. Send them in. Go murder. And we got zombies.

Cristina: And we got zombies. Yeah, we have.

Jack: We have manpower. We got what we need.

Cristina: All we need are zombies. Really.

Jack: I feel like so many of them. If when we look at the great void we're seeing them. That civilization is huge. We don't have the manpower. One zombies enough if we can get it to bite somebody and then them try to save that person and it spread.

Cristina: A cat person. We had a zombie. We one of our cat people will.

Jack: Just turn them into.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then fling them over there and be like we can save them.

Cristina: And then. Exactly. If they don't know what that is, then we're lucky.

Jack: Interesting, because it probably left before any zombie related thing happened. Then we captured there now because they were coming in and out through portals at the bottom of the ocean. Lake Loch.

Cristina: Oh yeah.

Jack: So I don't know. It depends. We'll find out. That's why this interrogation matters.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's why we're here, to answer these questions. That's really the point. Anyways, we're running out of time here. So if you guys want to Find out how the h*** we landed on any of these subjects. Because the lore of this show is so complicated. I'm not even, like, sure I get it myself.

Cristina: We try summarizing it in an episode.

Jack: Yeah. That wasn't even that long ago. There's an episode recently of us trying to summarize the lore of this show. But you can find out about the first time we talked about cat people, about the time we caught cat people. We want an adventure to hunt down these cat people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Same thing with the Reptilians. There was a whole problem there.

Cristina: Same thing with adrenochrome.

Jack: Adrenochrome.

Cristina: Creatures that were being created with it.

Jack: Yes. And we're sadly running. We're kind of bad people, but whatever. You know, we do things.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Science.

Cristina: And somehow that related to God. Somehow. I don't know.

Jack: God needs adrenochrome, too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, yeah, whatever. You could find all the episodes connected to all of this. You can find all those things on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter usConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to rate, review, and most importantly, subscribe to the show. If you are subscribed, you can get us anywhere. And then you can try. You can try to follow whatever crazy nonsense we're doing right now. And also you can find me on the stereo app having conversations with complete strangers. Sometimes like this, sometimes like when we have guests. Sometimes I come across trolls and we just troll.

Cristina: Sometimes it's live. Sometimes you gotta look at past stuff.

Jack: Yeah, Sometimes I'm there live. Sometimes you just check out past stuff. It's all there.

Cristina: And also tell somebody about the show.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, highly important. You can share the show by talking to people and telling them that we're trying to solve the world's most baffling problems. We're trying to find out what God is after. If cat people are using magic, if the Gryffindors are using magic, what the force really is. Is it the fifth. The fifth force? The fifth natural force of the universe? Yeah. So depressing questions.

Cristina: Yes. And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. Just because people quit. Just because people are asking it doesn't mean the answer is yes.

Jack: Feces are mostly made of water, about 75%. The rest is made of dead bacteria that helped us digest our food. Living bacteria, protein. Undigested food residue known as Fiber, waste, material from food, cellular lining, fat salts and substances released from the intestines such as mucus and the liver.

Cristina: It doesn't sound alive.

Jack: It is consisting of cellular lining and living bacteria.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Poop alive.

Cristina: No, it has living things in it. But it's not alive.

Jack: No, the poop is made of.

Cristina: It's mostly made of water.

Jack: Yes, but we're mostly made of air. So what's Your point? We're 99% air and it still looks like there's a person here. Yeah, they are less air. They're less poo is less nothing than we are. F*** with it.

Cristina: Pooh is dead bacteria and living bacteria, and that's probably.

Jack: I don't know who's alive. And ironically, poo is more alive than we are because we are 99% air and poo is 75% water.

Cristina: But do we consider water as a living thing?

Jack: No, I'm saying that there is more percentage of living stuff because water is only 75% instead of 99%. It's not 99% water. That means that 25% is the other.

Cristina: Stuff, which includes living things. But we don't know what the percentage of living thing is. It could be like 1%.

Jack: Then they're as alive as we are.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because we are 1% living thing. We're 1%? Yes. Actually, we're 1% anything. Our bones aren't alive and that's a huge part of who we are. That isn't air. So what percentage of us is like you? Think about it. Right now, we're breaking down the construct of what life is and we.

Cristina: And you're including poop in this.

Jack: Poo is alive.

Cristina: It's not.

Jack: Poo is the next thing we add to the list. The sun, fire, Poo.

Cristina: Doesn't he need multiple things to be considered alive?

Jack: Unless it's made of cells, in which case it goes straight to the top, regardless of how many other things it chucks off the list.

Cristina: But it's not really made out of cells. It's like cell bat. Like leftover. Leftover cells of what it was.

Jack: Yes, but it still cells. No, it's still living cells. That's. That's the problem.

Cristina: It says cellular lining. That doesn't mean. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 143: Commercialistic Crap Products

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are release.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody, grab them gently by the hand and pull them forcefully after you've grabbed them gently by the hand into the den where the podcast is already playing, and there's a bunch of drug addicts doing nothing but listening to this podcast in the middle of them sticking syringes with God knows what serums into their veins. You pull this person into that place, horrified, terrified for their lives, while this is playing in the background, and you make sure they listen to this show.

Cristina: Are you also horrified and terrified?

Jack: Why would you go somewhere you're horrified and terrified of?

Cristina: Oh, I thought it was like you went into the den, but you didn't know what you were going to see in the den either.

Jack: I mean, then what, you just happened to, like, you chase the sound of the podcast? No, because you needed to already know the podcast is playing, which means you know the place.

Cristina: Like, Mary, you just put the podcast there, walked away. When you came back with the other person, then you're both kind of horrified about what you found.

Jack: That's weird. So you just came in a bunch of. In that short time, a bunch of f****** heroin users and like, meth. Liquefied meth users or whatever showed up. Can you imagine? That'd be f****** crazy.

Cristina: Yes. But this person. Okay, so you brought this person to the den with drug addicts. Are you also one.

Jack: I don't know. I don't know what these people do in their personal lives. Maybe. Maybe they're just cool with drug addicts. Yeah, it is completely possible that that's a scenario taking place right now. Just a bunch of our listeners are casually okay with, like, heroin addicts. They just live in house, or not even live in houses with them, but they just. They, for whatever reason, know heroin addicts. I don't know. They, for whatever reason, know about drug dens, drug dens that they're familiar with enough to know that the show is.

Cristina: Playing there in audit drug dens. In.

Jack: In this particular drug den that they went to.

Cristina: Well, how many listeners do we have so that. That still feels like a lot.

Jack: A lot of people going to drug dens.

Cristina: Yeah. Unless they're all going to the same ones.

Jack: All our listeners are drug users.

Cristina: Are they not all doing this together?

Jack: No, there's one. One of them.

Cristina: One of them, one of them.

Jack: Usually there's an array of people doing an array of things.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But I pick one person who's doing something specific and I talk about them. Like the woodsman.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, so it's not every listener.

Jack: Yeah. There isn't like a fuckton of woodsmen. There was a woodsman.

Cristina: Oh, I imagine it was every.

Jack: So to make this totally clear, all our listeners are cancer. Having woodsmen who do drugs in drug.

Cristina: Density and also do all these other things. You've always mentioned every single thing. I thought you were like. That's why I didn't understand why they'd come back to listen, because I thought. Oh. Or unless it was the person they. The next person that they got to listen, they're the ones going through it now. Is that what's happening?

Jack: I don't know if they listened again. I guess they have to be a committed listener after the first time listening.

Cristina: No, I mean like the person that they're. They forced to listen.

Jack: Yeah. They have to become a committed listener in order for that to happen. So they have to listen to the next episode in order to hear being told to find somebody else to listen.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But it's different people. Okay. That makes more sense.

Jack: The way humans work.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: How there's this human and then, wait for it, there's that human. Whoa.

Cristina: But they're all doing something similar either way, even if just one at a time.

Jack: The only thing they have in common.

Cristina: Is the podcast and that they're forcing someone to listen to it.

Jack: I hope.

Cristina: You hope? Yeah.

Jack: I don't know that for a fact.

Cristina: Yeah. But then the stories that you're talking about them are that. Is that really happening or is that what you're hoping they will do?

Jack: No, there's at least one person. There's so many people. There's at least one person going through what I'm talking about.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Bare minimum, there's one person doing it.

Cristina: What? Okay.

Jack: That's how it goes.

Cristina: Yeah, that's how it goes. Okay. But they're all dying from cancer.

Jack: Yeah. Anybody who listens by default gets cancer. There's nothing we could do about that.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That makes sense.

Jack: And even if we could, it removes the incentive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like you. You don't want to die in vain. You don't want to just have cancer. Because you listen to the show now. You need to spread that cancer out.

Cristina: Hi.

Jack: Because otherwise you got cancer for no reason. There must be a purpose to your life.

Cristina: And the purpose is to give someone else cancer.

Jack: No, it's to get somebody else to listen. They'll just catch cancer because then the rules.

Cristina: Okay, so they're. They're not even doing it to get the other person cancer, even though they know the other person is going to get cancer.

Jack: No, they're just trying to get the other person to listen to a show they love that happen to give them cancer.

Cristina: They still love us.

Jack: The content is superior to the outcome.

Cristina: Oh, wow. Okay. And we gave them a purpose.

Jack: We gave them a purpose, which was get more listeners.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: It's the cult.

Cristina: It is a cult.

Jack: It is a cult.

Cristina: It's so wrong, though, why these are giving them cancer.

Jack: They're cool with it.

Cristina: We can't just give them more cancer, right?

Jack: No, they just. I mean, unless somebody has, like, super cancer.

Cristina: I don't know. Maybe one of them has super cancer.

Jack: The most cancer y cancer of them all.

Cristina: Different types of cancers. Can one person have different types at one time?

Jack: I'm sure that's a thing that could happen in, like, the real world.

Cristina: Like, that must be super rare, though. But one of our listeners might have multiple.

Jack: Yeah, somebody might have several kinds of cancer. I'm sure there's somebody with, like, lung cancer that also has, like, skin cancer.

Cristina: Yes. That's horrible.

Jack: Has to be possible.

Cristina: It has to be. Right? Right. Unless cancer is picky and it's like, you can only have one.

Jack: It's weird because, like, cancer is f*****, though, because, like, we can't do. I think there's a cure for cancer, right? There would have to be.

Cristina: Why does there have to be?

Jack: Because enough money thrown at anything solves any problem. And we don't have an incentive to stop cancer because in the pharmaceutical companies run out of business because that's one of the big money makers.

Cristina: But it's not the biggest money maker.

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: Probably about the flu. Isn't that super big?

Jack: No, it's just easy to make a lot of s*** for.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Like in reality, like, cancer is one of the big kahunas. Cancer, aids, all these f****** things that are, like, easy to stop.

Cristina: Think AIDS is easy to stop.

Jack: AIDS is not even that problematic. There's so much s*** that can hold you alive for quite some time but.

Cristina: Not get rid of it.

Jack: But not get rid of it. You know what's the craziest One that. It's always weird to me. Herpes.

Cristina: Why is that? Because it's not, like, lethal, but it could become lethal.

Jack: I guess, maybe.

Cristina: Why? What's the big deal? Like, I know it's what it is.

Jack: Sores. You get sores. Okay. How horrible. And, like, only if you have an outbreak. Yeah, but we equate herpes to aids. AIDS kills the inside of your body and you catch anything, you die. Herpes. Oh, I itch like, a little. If I have an outbreak, maybe.

Cristina: Yeah. But why are people freaked out about herpes?

Jack: I don't know. Because it has STD the same way the f****** AIDS does. They're both STDs.

Cristina: Oh, so we just lump them all together.

Jack: Yeah, we're like, STDs are all together. You can literally get rid of chlamydia forever. You can just not have chlamydia after you had chlamydia.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: That's a thing you could just eradicate in your body. But we're like std.

Cristina: Oh, no. Oh, okay.

Jack: It's weird.

Cristina: That is weird.

Jack: That's strange, right?

Cristina: Yeah. I didn't realize that. It is just sores.

Jack: It is just sores. It's so f****** strange. I think people are just scared that it's the end of their sex life and so they make a giant big deal about it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is like maybe juice protection, though.

Cristina: Yeah. Or just like take breaks in sex, you know, like until the sore goes away. Because isn't that the thing with it? It comes and goes.

Jack: You can still spread it.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Although you have no source.

Cristina: Really. Yeah. Oh, I thought it had to be there.

Jack: Yeah. It's less likely, but it's so possible. It's just use protection. I gotta use a condom for the rest of my life. Boohoo, loser. The.

Cristina: Well, that's how you would avoid in the first place.

Jack: Yeah. That's how you would have dodged this bullet to begin with. And by not dodging the bullet, now you're obligated to do the thing.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: Yeah, it's crazy. It's. So many of these f****** things are like that. Really? Really? Aids, hiv. That's it, aids.

Cristina: Wait, one doesn't one become the other.

Jack: HIV could become aids. Yeah, I'm sure you can just catch AIDS right out though, right? Like you could catch hiv. Or you could just get like flat out AIDS in one shot. No, no, you need to get hiv.

Cristina: I don't know. I. I always thought it was one, then came the other. But I don't know if you could.

Jack: Just get AIDS because Magic Johnson had hiv. Did he cure HIV before it became aids?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Could you cure HIV and not aids? And so we make a big deal about HIV the way we do like f****** chlamydia and herpes. When in reality it's not.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know. There's so many things, there's so many STDs.

Jack: But here's the problem. Pharmaceutical companies have no need to eradicate these things. It would not be beneficial.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because preventative medicine prevents return business.

Cristina: So you just put a band aid on it?

Jack: Yeah. If preventative medicine prevents return business, then preventing return business means no money. But you are a business first.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So if you cure the problem, then you don't have that patient anymore. Which that patient is really. What's another name? Customer.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: And you always want customers to come back to the store.

Cristina: That's why light bulbs. I saw that recently about light bulbs that they last a specific amount of time that's calculated. Just because they don't. They need the competition, they need the business. Like if someone was selling from that lasted way longer because they could do it.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: They'd just get all the company. Like there's no competition if someone.

Jack: Yeah. It's a double edged sword. Because if you're the company who made the infinite lasting light bulb, of course it wouldn't last for infinity, but it would last really long. So you can make a light bulb to last 10 years. Right. And everybody else says light bulb lasts six months. Now the problem is everybody's gonna go buy your light bulbs. Yes.

Cristina: But then you won't have business. You won't have business until 10 years.

Jack: Exactly. Every one person that bought isn't coming back for 10 years.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: It's a weird problem to have. Right.

Cristina: Cuz your business and there's no business.

Jack: There'S no business in that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you need to create crap in order for people to come and buy the crap. But you can't make quality. Really?

Cristina: No. Because then people won't come back to agree upon the quality that's gonna be.

Jack: Yep. You can always beat the competition by going over. But then you're also going to have people showing up less often.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You need to be so well known that you can survive off of word alone.

Cristina: You can do what like the phone companies do. They have, they try to have one thing that's better than all the other phones, but everything else is the same. Like this phone will have the best camera. But everything else sucks as much as every Other phone.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah.

Cristina: Like, they're not that much different iPhones and Androids or anything, but they'll just come with something. Just one thing.

Jack: Which they probably agreed on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Secretly behind closed doors. Well, this is the thing. We are. You can't. You can't do this.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or we're gonna have this phone. That means you could have one phone that does the same thing. And whatever the most loyal to, they'll buy.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. And that's what we do, too. We just buy the phone. That is what we're most loyal to. I don't know why, but that's what you do. I feel like a lot of people do, especially iPhone people. Just buy.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Because iPhones suck now. We lost jobs and iPhone went down.

Cristina: The drain with it, but it hasn't lost anyone, I think.

Jack: You think? I know a lot of people who went from iPhone to Android.

Cristina: Oh, I do too, actually. And I do know also the same loyal people of iPhone Fair.

Jack: I know about as many. Yeah. I know people who are loyal in the other direction, too, who just don't move from Android.

Cristina: That's true. And they probably will never try anything else but Android. Like, no one's experimental in that way.

Jack: Yeah. It's like PlayStation people will always be PlayStation people and Xbox people will always be Xbox people, even if Xbox is inferior by kind of every margin. Less powerful. Wacker graphics. No f****** exclusives.

Cristina: No games.

Jack: No games. Like, it's all the same s***. All they got going for them right now is that game passing.

Cristina: That game passing. That's pretty good, though, I guess. For now.

Jack: Now, here's a case in which having the product that lasts a really long time is more important because you don't want people repeatedly buying a PlayStation. Because you need to sell games, and if there's a gap in the middle, then you got a problem. So you need a PlayStation that's durable. This is the proof that things can last a really long time.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: These consoles are made to last 10, 20 years.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, that's a thing we could just f****** do. Because they're trying to sell the software, not the hardware. They need you to have the hardware so they can sell you the software.

Cristina: That's interesting. Yeah. So they have to make it durable.

Jack: So they have to make it durable opposite to the light bulb. Like, there's nothing you're adding to that light bulb. No, it's the light bulb they're trying to sell.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the light bulb needs to expire so that you come back and get another one.

Cristina: Yes. And. But do the systems have to eventually expire?

Jack: No, because the games moved on to the better software.

Cristina: And the better software to the better hardware.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Which one is. Wait, the hardware is the system?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah. And the better hardware. It's getting harder to prove the hardware is better.

Jack: Yes. There was a article explaining how humans capacity to tell graphical graphic difference has stopped since the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

Cristina: Yes. But people really believe that there is.

Jack: Yeah. So the idea is the games themselves. We can tell by looking. Oh, this looks better than that game. Yeah, 100%. But it's because we didn't have the capacity back then. Now that system, through updates reached its peak to the point that it has the capacity to render the same level of graphic that something later does.

Cristina: Like the PlayStation 4.

Jack: Yes. Like the PlayStation 4 is really, really overpowered. But also most of our eyes can't tell most things. It's really up to how the developers are using the technology. They get more clever with it to come up with tricks to make things more believable and move in different ways that convince our mind. But graphic wise, our brains have kind of capped off. Our eyes can only see so much and we've already hit that peak. So it's about how we make the world respond to trick our brains into believing, oh, this is more real than it is.

Cristina: But they're still trying to sell the newer systems on the graphics.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Even if it doesn't matter anymore.

Jack: This is, this is the problem. Right. There are scenarios in which the graphics do matter. So if you have a cutscene and you have a close up of a character.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Well, now that character's face is covering the whole screen. Now you don't have a tiny character that looks human at a distance. Now you have an upgrade close look of this character. Now your eye needs all the pixels possible because it's not one little point. They're far away. And this many pixels make them up. No, they are the screen. And now you can see the illusion that was taking place far away doesn't hold up up close.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's still important.

Jack: It's still important to some degree, yeah.

Cristina: Do you think a better TV helps?

Jack: Not really. None of this s*** really matters because while we're playing a game, we tune out most of it. It's only when the people who stop to look to break.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, people who stop and let me get all up and close onto this person's face to see how real it looks. Those people see the flaws. But those people were Already not immersed. They were intentionally breaking reality. Let's go do something. So they didn't give a s*** in the first place about how real it was. They wanted to prove it wasn't.

Cristina: Yes. Like the details in Last of Us Two that we didn't even notice. Like, them opening those doors. Like normal people open doors. Like no one paid attention.

Jack: No, no, no. It's not that nobody paid attention. This is where you're completely wrong for one basic reason. If something is done right, it goes unnoticed because it doesn't stand out as wrong.

Cristina: But then in part one, did you notice? Was it like, oh, no, that wouldn't be how they do this thing.

Jack: Well, no, it was less good. But it was good enough to not matter.

Cristina: Exactly. Like, the game itself was good enough that it didn't really matter. Those small details, like, it's nice that they're there.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. If those details weren't there, you'd notice if they walked up to the door and it flew open, you would notice.

Cristina: And it flew open. I don't know. It depends on, I think, how the characters react to, like, if they're so still. I don't know. I guess the detail is pretty crazy. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, you don't notice it happening because it looks so normal that it's an afterthought. Yeah, but if they walk up to the door, don't touch it, and they move their hand in a way, like if they're scooping something that's not even there and then the door flies open, they're like, yeah, that's the motion for opening a door. Like, that's weird. But you'll get over it and keep playing the game.

Cristina: Yeah. Like Resident Evil games, Doors never mattered. They've always been annoying in that game.

Jack: Yeah. But you are aware that it looks unnatural.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're not unaware. You just learn to tune it out.

Cristina: Yeah. So ridiculous.

Jack: While when it's particularly high quality in the game, it goes over your head because you never noticed it was perfect. You have to be looking for perfection in order to see it.

Cristina: But should we be looking for that? Should we have that in our games? Is that that important?

Jack: Free immersion. Yeah. You do get pulled out when things are ridiculously fake. When somebody walks up to a door, makes a motion that isn't opening a door, but they just want you to understand that that's the motion for opening a door. And then the door flies open, you're like, well, what a weird way to open the. Now you know, inherently. Yeah. He Opened the door, whatever. Yeah, but it's not as perfect in your mind. The fact that you even had to acknowledge. Oh, that's how door opens at any given moment.

Cristina: What if the game is cartoony, though? Like would. Does that take away from the immersion? Because it's not realistic, but purp. Not realistic.

Jack: It depends on the person. That was a way general question. Like, I don't know. Depends on who's playing and why they're.

Cristina: Playing like a Mario game.

Jack: Like, are they playing for the immersion? Are they playing for the realism? Are they playing for the platforming?

Cristina: Who plays for the realism? That's a weird way to play.

Jack: What do you mean? Isn't that what like a simulator is?

Cristina: I guess I don't play enough simulators.

Jack: Simulators like they are for realism. That's the point.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's somebody literally playing for the realism of doing the thing that they couldn't do in real life.

Cristina: Yes. Like those farm farmer.

Jack: Yeah. Not everybody has a farm, but some.

Cristina: People can go and farm, ride those trucks. Okay. Yeah.

Jack: That's a thing that happens. Depends on the game or what matters.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

Jack: There's an infinite number of players, so there must be an infinite number of ways to play.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But all those things are. Selling that software in the first place is the reason that they don't need to make s***** consoles.

Cristina: Because then they just have to worry about the amount of games they have.

Jack: Yes. Which as technology has moved forward, has become way more efficient because you just need to develop the game. You don't need a hundred million billion physical copies anymore. Although a bunch of people still make physical copies. They're trying to phase that out intentionally because that's more money.

Cristina: It's more money to have it all digital.

Jack: Yeah. Because you don't have to create all the discs.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And disc boxes and all this bullshit.

Cristina: That's extra money. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, that's extra money. Well, whereas when it's fully digital, you just upload the one file.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then everybody downloads the one file.

Cristina: But when it comes to the most games, that's got to be the computer.

Jack: Yeah. The computer has everything that's on Xbox, everything that's on PlayStation and its own series of everything. One thing it doesn't have access to is Nintendo.

Cristina: That's. Yeah, that's impossible. That's just Nintendo.

Jack: Yeah. Somehow they've successfully functioned off of sharing with nobody.

Cristina: Yes. But they end up getting other people's games anyway. Everyone wants to share with them because.

Jack: They know that it's always the Third console.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if it's there, at least we'll still make money.

Cristina: Yeah. They need two more cross play games. That's what I want to see more of. Like, come on, everyone has their consoles already. Just give us the ability to play with each other.

Jack: That really is going. That's gonna happen. It's gonna keep happening. Games that are shared amongst all the consoles are probably gonna have cross play. Call of Duties of the World, the Battlefields of the world, the Rocket Leagues of the world. Anything that has players on many different systems.

Cristina: Does Rocket League already have that? I know Call of Duty.

Jack: Rocket League was one of the first.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I believe so, if I'm not mistaken.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But yeah, I think so because it's just a lot of different systems that have the same games.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Was Rocket league just a PlayStation thing? No, I'm pretty sure Rocket League is on many consoles.

Cristina: PlayStation, I feel like. Yeah, I can see that on Nintendo. It makes sense.

Jack: I don't know if it is, but yeah, yeah, I can totally see that there too.

Cristina: And I know Call of Duty is on everything. Probably not to not Nintendo though, but.

Jack: They have a version of Call of Duty Zone Nintendo that's like watered down.

Cristina: Oh yeah, There's a multiplayer.

Jack: Don't have it. Yeah. But yes. So that's definitely why a bunch of bullshit needs to be sold. Everybody likes to make bull crap. Just all the crap.

Cristina: Because that's what makes money.

Jack: That's what makes money. Yes. That's the same problem again. Back to pharmaceutical companies. You need people to come buy the light bulb.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The light bulb is the medicine. If your medicine stops the problem, what's the point? They don't come back for the medicine.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You stopped the customer.

Cristina: So you have to get them hooked on it.

Jack: You got it.

Cristina: Not even hooked. But they have to believe they need it.

Jack: Yes. So the idea would be if you have pain, rather than giving you something that cures you of pain, I'll give you something that temporarily suppresses the pain. Now you can cope through life, but eventually that will wear off and then you come back for more.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's horrible. Yeah.

Jack: There's some f***** up nature to it, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The solution to this problem in reality is you put. You remove the ability for pharmaceutical companies to be owned by private industry and you put them all on the government. There's a reason this would work, because the government money would be what's being used. The money that goes into politician pockets. They will make sure your problem is f****** solved.

Cristina: So they can stop putting money into it.

Jack: So they can stop putting money into it. Every. There's. There's. We have an AIDS problem. Well, we gotta f****** get rid of the saves problem because I need that money in my f****** pocket. And if we keep f****** giving them remedies and they keep coming, we got to keep making the medicine.

Cristina: Aren't they the ones in charge of schools? They're not. I thought they were doing a horrible job at that.

Jack: Well, they need people to go to the schools, and they get charged for the school. Well, they distribute s***** money. They. The other schools are privately owned.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And there's redlining surrounding schools.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So your community must support the school. But if your community is of low income, then your school is also of low income, rather than each state supplying all the schools equally.

Cristina: Oh, that's messed up.

Jack: Yeah, there's a s***** system funding schools.

Cristina: Okay, districts.

Jack: There you go.

Cristina: Districts. Yeah, that's problematic.

Jack: While when you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry, if the. If pharmaceuticals are free because they are by the government and the government has to take care of its people, there's no way in h*** they're gonna let you stay sick. They can't afford it. They're gonna make sure, by any means necessary, you're f****** cured. If we have less citizens, then we have less tax money. You can't be dead.

Cristina: Is that why free health care works in other countries?

Jack: Yes, because they need to solve the problem.

Cristina: Interesting. Oh, yeah.

Jack: When it's run by private companies, they need your customer. Your customer. They don't get paid with tax dollars. They get paid by your return business. Yeah, but if you, the person, the patient, doesn't pay a dime because your government is supposed to make sure you're healthy, then they will 100% make sure you're healthy and get you the f*** out so you don't have to come back. But if you're dead, also no tax money. That's problematic.

Cristina: So you got to keep you healthy.

Jack: They got to keep you healthy. They got to make sure you are in a healthy condition. Not going to the doctor regularly.

Cristina: Amazing. Amazing.

Jack: That's the solution.

Cristina: And it is a solution in other places.

Jack: Yes. 100%.

Cristina: So crazy. We see that. And just. Just in jealousy or envy.

Jack: Yes, Capitalism. And capitalism destroys s***. The I'm better than you mentality. But some people are so poor, all they have is money, man. And that's like a reality in this country. Some people are so sad and poor that all they have is money. They got nothing else to live for.

Cristina: Do you Mean.

Jack: What do you mean? What?

Cristina: I mean that they're so poor they only have money.

Jack: Yeah. How pathetic of a human to only have money. And that's the one thing they have in life.

Cristina: They don't have anything else, like no friends or family.

Jack: You mean they don't. They don't have value in their life?

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because purpose.

Jack: Value, meaning that's wealth.

Cristina: That's what they're missing.

Jack: You can have riches and no wealth. That's why they're different words.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You could have friends, family, love, excitement, enjoyment, fun, health.

Cristina: Without the money.

Jack: Without the money.

Cristina: Yeah. Unless you're Kat Von D. You have all of it.

Jack: Sure. I doubt all of it, but okay.

Cristina: No, she has, well, the wealth. And I'm sure she loves the art.

Jack: Yeah, but she's, like, miserable all the time. All her art is about how sad she is.

Cristina: Really. Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Anywho, the point is that you don't need the money. Those people are sad. Some people have money and they're happy, but, like, most people aren't because they keep trying to get more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's their one thing. It's like, well, one day filled a hole, and it's like, no, you're not. No, you're not. You keep trying. The reason you're still trying is because you haven't filled the hole yet. You're still trying.

Cristina: Like Elon Musk, rich people.

Jack: Well, Elon Musk has purpose. That's something different. He doesn't give a s*** about the money. And when he happens to be, like, a product of what he does.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: His passion is being lazy.

Cristina: His passion is being lazy.

Jack: So he overproduces to ease his life and be lazy.

Cristina: Mm. Mm.

Jack: Like, some people do have purpose. He goes out there and he makes stuff. People might talk all the s*** in the world about Jeff Bezos, but he just has ideas and he puts them into play. Yeah, sometimes you're maliciously executed, but whatever. Not malicious. He just doesn't care. Morally speaking, malicious is like Zucker, f*****. That guy's goal is money. But that's also why he's a pathetic loser.

Cristina: Yes. He's probably have no happiness.

Jack: Yeah, he doesn't have, like, goals in life. He just had, like, money is the goal. Everything else is a means to the money.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Bezos didn't give a s*** about the money. He was doing things. He was like, oh, I want to make this sounds like a good idea. And that sounds like a good idea. And this and that. These are people with purpose. The money isn't what makes them happy. It is just something they have.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: A lot of. But it's something they have, which some.

Cristina: People, that's the case. And some people, it's more like.

Jack: Exactly. Bill Gates, filthy rich, does a million things, though. He enjoys all of it. He just keeps doing things and finding new things to do and going to help people and sharing his money with people. Doesn't care because the money doesn't matter.

Cristina: Yeah. With his. He is trying to help people. Although now he's become the bad guy in a lot of people's view. I can't tell how they got this information where he's a villain. Well, he's such a villain character.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because of this whole pandemic thing. I don't know. Just because he warned people. Now he's bad.

Jack: Conspiracy theory psychopaths want to find a problem with anything.

Cristina: They need someone to be the source of the problem.

Jack: Yeah. They need there to be a villain.

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: And he knew.

Cristina: And he knew. He knew.

Jack: He talked about it. He knew. He's part of the cause or whatever.

Cristina: All he wanted to do was turn poop into clean water.

Jack: And then he's got vaccines in mind and he's like, this is how they've helped fund them. He helped scientists. He did what he had to to get vaccines out when people. Well, he's not a doctor. Yeah. But he was also not into making f****** vaccines. But in their eyes.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He went in the lab, f****** poured some chemicals together, walked outside and he's like, I got a vaccine. It's like, no. He paid chemists.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And biologists just to work together and make a f****** vaccine.

Cristina: Yeah. There was another wealthy person during this whole thing that gave a lot of her money to the vaccine cure. She donated it. No one saw her as an evil villain because of it.

Jack: It's because he's also out there pushing it. Well, Bill Gates is saying, take it, don't take it. Must be corrupted. Like, why?

Cristina: I don't know. Because they have nanobytes in the nanobots. Nanobytes in it. That's so crazy.

Jack: Or chips.

Cristina: Or chips.

Jack: You're getting chipped. What do you mean, nanobots?

Cristina: I don't. That was one of the things. I don't know how, but the shots have nanobots.

Jack: I thought it was chips. You were getting chipped.

Cristina: It's. There's so many different versions of it that you're picky about it. I don't know.

Jack: No, I didn't hear.

Cristina: Oh, nano.

Jack: Anything about nanobots. I only Heard about the chips.

Cristina: Yep. There's also nanobots that they put chips.

Jack: In you to track you.

Cristina: Well, chips are old. That's always been a thing. The new thing is nanobots.

Jack: What are the nanobots gonna do?

Cristina: Control your brain.

Jack: Is that the goal?

Cristina: I think so. I think it's always about mind control.

Jack: But, like, you go on Facebook.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's good enough.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't need all this advanced robotic technology to. You go on Facebook and you believe that there are conspiracy theories surrounding vaccine. Vaccines. There are conspiracy theories surrounding the moon landing. There are conspiracy theories surrounding presidents and reptilians and f****** adrenochrome and, like, pizza places with children in the basement.

Cristina: Like, all of that is through Facebook.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like, Facebook's the villain.

Jack: You don't need nanobots if you're already dumb enough to believe, being brainwashed, that there are nanobots. If you're stupid enough to believe there are nanobots inside of a syringe being put into your bloodstream to go affect your brain.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They don't need nanobots inside of a syringe to control your brain. Facebook convinced you already. You don't. That's crazy. That's a weird paradox, isn't it? If you believe it, they don't need it.

Cristina: They don't. Oh, yes.

Jack: Because you're already that gullible.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. You just. The. There's nothing. Like. They should just end Facebook. They know they should just end it because of all this fake news. That is so people just eat it up. They're told that it's fake and beware.

Jack: They don't give a s***. No, no, no, no, no.

Cristina: They just eat it.

Jack: And all of us know these people. We all know these people who are personally.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: There's nobody who doesn't know somebody on Facebook. And if you know somebody on Facebook book.

Cristina: You know, somebody who's read an article title or something.

Jack: Yeah. Somebody who's on a team based on Facebook.

Cristina: Yes. Who read about how cereals poisoning you or whatever.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did no source research. No, no.

Cristina: But someone made a video explaining how it's.

Jack: And they believe it. They believe it. Yep. That's how it goes.

Cristina: What?

Jack: That's what Facebook is for. To brainwash a bunch of people into believing that there are a million different problems going on.

Cristina: So crazy. And I'm sure it spread to the other apps too. I'm sure it's an Instagram and Tick Tock and what is it? Twitter. But because the same people. Main source.

Jack: Because the same people who have Facebook want to share what they've learned to other with everybody else. And it's like, well, I have all these other social medias. I gotta go talk about this thing I found out, this destroying the world.

Cristina: Yeah. Let me make a video on Twitter.

Jack: And just spread like wildfires. The source is Facebook.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But it just keeps spreading and people are like, well, no, those are the righties. Or those are the. No, it's all of you. It's all of you. All sides.

Cristina: It's all sides.

Jack: If you are on a team, you fell for it.

Cristina: And if you're on Facebook, you fell. You probably fell for it.

Jack: Well, if you're on Facebook, you're on a team.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes.

Jack: Yeah. If you're on the team, you fell for it. And if you're on the team, you're on Facebook.

Cristina: That's.

Jack: That's how it goes.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then there's the people who are like, well, no, Facebook is corrupt. I'm gonna go to this other website that does exactly the same thing, but.

Cristina: For my team that's probably owned by Facebook.

Jack: It's probably owned by Facebook or supported by Facebook.

Cristina: There's so many apps. Other apps that's owned by Facebook.

Jack: The other Trump ones.

Cristina: The Trump ones, yeah.

Jack: Because Facebook is like, it's so leftist and they're. They're censoring us here. So I'm gonna go somewhere where my type of people are at. You mean where you're gonna shut down the left ideology and have confirmation bias about your ideology instead of be somewhere where they have confirmation bias about their ideology so that you can say we're right? Because people are telling you you're right the same way people were telling them they're right when you were telling them they're wrong. So the same s***, but over there.

Cristina: Yes, fun. What do you care from that confirmation bias?

Jack: You feel good. You're like, yeah, yeah, I'm smart. I. I'm part of the in crowd. I know they're the stupid ones.

Cristina: I know now I gotta block them and never talk to them again.

Jack: Yeah, that happened so much starting like 20. Actually, it started in 2016.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. People siding with Trump people. No, he's a monster.

Cristina: Oh, my God. I know. People who didn't like Trump, who just stopped being friends with people who supported Trump.

Jack: Yeah, you can see that on social media everywhere. No Trump supporters. If you support Trump, don't follow me.

Cristina: It's hilarious. All these Trump people are probably hiding or something, or at least around here.

Jack: Yeah, man, that's f****** crazy.

Cristina: That Facebook's crazy.

Jack: That everybody's crazy.

Cristina: Everyone's crazy. Yeah.

Jack: Yep. Everybody's got their own special brand of crazy. And everybody's got their own little confirmation bias bubble thing that they are following through with.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: We're not trying to fix problems. Nobody's trying to fix problems. Everybody just want to scream the loudest.

Cristina: Or blame someone else for the problem. Yeah.

Jack: When at the end of the day, the problem is made by the same people who you are following. Make the government solve everything. The government will if they have to pay for themselves.

Cristina: That's the solution.

Jack: That's the solution. Hold the government accountable. They want to. Look, people are trying to get rich off the government. They become politicians. They pocket money. Easy tax money, Easiest f****** way to get money. So make the. This is why they don't want to pay for s***. They will do whatever the f*** they can to convince you private industry is what matters. Well, no, make the government pay for things that require human, like human rights. Make them pay for human rights and health and education and all these things out of their own pocket and distribute it evenly to anyone and everyone and you will see a problem. They will immediately, immediately do whatever the f*** to solve the issue.

Cristina: If only we can come together to do that, though.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: The whole team thing really stops that.

Jack: Yeah, well, their goal is the whole team's thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They need us to fight each other so that we don't realize that they're giving us bullshit that doesn't work and allowing companies to do things privately and f*** everybody over because we don't have to pay for it. We keep them fighting that industry is the problem. And then we don't have to pay for the things that we can easily cover with the tax money that they've already given us to cover those things and we can pocket that money.

Cristina: Is giving them money.

Jack: The industry pays them. Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah, what?

Jack: Yeah, the industry pays them because the industry makes so much money off of f****** robbing these people, but they pay them to, like, keep it this way.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Keep it this way. You make money, we make money. But if the industry doesn't make money and the government is the one paying for it, based on the tax dollars, if it is even cut just enough for all the things that matter to be covered and a little surplus for the politicians to decide what goes to that little surplus is suddenly not enough. And they're like, well, we can't steal this now because it'll be obvious there's not absurd monies flying everywhere in every direction, which means we need to solve the problem so that people don't come back. So that there's a lot of money sitting around so that then we can scoop off the top and nobody notices that there's a little bit missing.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know if that's a good thing. That's a great thing, I guess. Sounds bad, but it's better than what's.

Jack: Happening now where private companies get the shafts people. It's the same thing as the prison system.

Cristina: We should stop that.

Jack: Yeah. The prison system is like a pharmaceutical company with humans. With humans.

Cristina: That's pretty horrible.

Jack: They just give s***** service. But it's. I guess it's slavery.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Slavery.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We pay them well. You pay them so little intentionally so you don't really have to waste money so little.

Cristina: They pay them in cents.

Jack: Yeah. 8 cents an hour or some s*** like that.

Cristina: It's crazy. Just slavery. I don't know.

Jack: That's the 13th amendment.

Cristina: You gotta change that. We gotta change colleges.

Jack: Colleges should be paid for by the government.

Cristina: Yes. Because I feel like in that case kids are being sort of slaved.

Jack: Yeah. People are being convinced to be go into debt, into tremendous amounts of debt. People who are not allowed to drink alcohol yet. People who are not allowed to make choices about their own life yet they can't go buy cigarettes, they can't go buy alcohol.

Cristina: Gamble.

Jack: They can't gamble. You can get into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. We can send you to war to die because that's beneficial for us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that same person we sent to war to die. No, you can't buy alcohol yet. That's not legal. You can go die because we said it's okay. Go die. You're gonna make us money because we're over there stealing some s*** anyways. But no, you can't buy alcohol. We need your brain to be in great condition so that we can abuse it.

Cristina: Oh, the brain damage. Oh, they should have. But the rules should be a little different for them if they're gonna do that.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Like if you join the army, maybe you could drink a little. Like maybe the. Those things the age lowers for them.

Jack: No, if you can go to the military, you should be able to do everything an adult can.

Cristina: Yeah. I mean, if you're.

Jack: Yeah. Everybody who's the right age should have the same rights. Why are we giving different people different rights?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that would be a horrible thing to do because then people might want to go to military. Yes. Yeah. That's a horrible plan. Never mind that yeah.

Jack: All you're doing is giving people incentive to go to. They should go because they want to, not because there's some s*** over there they want to do.

Cristina: Yeah. Ah, all right. That makes way more sense.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It is definitely problematic to give incentive to go to the military.

Cristina: Mm. There's so many problems.

Jack: But then they do give incentive, right? They'll be like, you get this benefit, that benefit, and all of it is a lie.

Cristina: Yeah. There's schooling they're supposed to help you with.

Jack: Yeah. Only as long as you're a soldier. They say they're gonna support you afterwards, but the moment you're done, it is hard to get any of that s***.

Cristina: Really. Like, how do you even have time to do any of that while you're a soldier?

Jack: Yeah, exactly.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's a con. They will do whatever to convince you, then you're there and realize you have no time for anything. And then by the time you get.

Cristina: Out, they're like, psych.

Jack: Yeah. They're like, what do you mean you're not serving here anymore? Oh, no. There's these paperworks. Oh, no. Well, it's really only if you do this many hours of work average for us paperwork and stuff and.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: Well, no, you got to do this thing. And you got. Before too long. Some people are 180 years old before they finally get their f****** thing that they've been waiting for since, like, World War II or some crazy s***. It's like, what the f***, bro?

Cristina: What?

Jack: It's because the military sucks like that because it's private industry.

Cristina: They're really conning people. Although I guess every business is conning. Is conning us. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, all businesses are just. It's all about. If money is what you do, then you are f*****. It should be every Its job. It should be, you get paid a jobs wage. Everybody gets paid a jobs wage. You're higher rank, a little more money. Yeah, but you can't get more money. Somehow you can't. Well, we're gonna do this tactic and do that thing, and then, boom, I get more money. There should be no way you get more money. It should be all evenly distributed the right way with so much micromanaging by so many different parties that there's no way something could slip up and be different.

Cristina: Are you talking about communism? Has all of this been about, we should be a communist country? Like, the whole. Like, the government should have control of all the businesses, and also everyone should have equal play?

Jack: I don't think the government should have control of all the businesses. Like. Yeah, go do the light bulb thing. Whatever. Competition. Yes, but like, medicine.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's people's health. Like, I said human rights. Yeah, I specifically said human rights. I use those words.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah, Yeah.

Jack: I don't believe the government should have say in what, like, a business of, like, selling cars should do. Like, who the f*** cares, dude?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, let them do what they want to do.

Cristina: Okay, but in something like pharmacies or.

Jack: Pharmacies or prisons or hospitals or school.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: The same way we support the cops and the firefighters.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We should support those other things. Those other things.

Cristina: Okay. But not everything.

Jack: No, that would be ridiculous.

Cristina: That's.

Jack: Yeah, that's excessive.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because then where is the end of. Where's the opportunity for the individual?

Cristina: Yeah. But then you also want people to.

Jack: Be paid the same in the military.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, yes. What are you talking about?

Jack: That's what we were talking about for the longest.

Cristina: Oh, okay. I thought you meant, like, everyone, though.

Jack: No. In the military.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That nobody in the military gets different pay. Like, your rank is your pay, and there's nothing you could do to get paid different. There's no job that's gonna give you more money or anything, and everything is fixed. And there's so much micromanaging by many, many different groups that there's nobody who could skim anything off of anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that now you just do your job. Right. Versus do whatever's gonna get you more money.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because when there's a money incentive, you've gone crooked. That's where corruption lies. When there's money incentive, you have corruption.

Cristina: And that's the problem with the military.

Jack: That's a problem with the military. That's a problem with hospitals. That's a problem with pharmaceutical industries. That's like, what the f*** is the opioid pandemic if not a bunch of pharmaceutical douchebags taking advantage. Taking advantage. And then they could just claim bankruptcy and get the f*** out of there. Take all the money out of the banks and disappear and they don't have to pay s*** because they left the country. Now, can the government do that if they f***** up?

Cristina: No.

Jack: No. You got to fix the problem, or we burn you down.

Cristina: Yes, that is a great idea. Yes. Let's burn them down.

Jack: Yeah. So when it comes to human rights, that should be the government's job. There should be nobody telling somebody, medicine. No. People need medicine.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: You cannot have private industry running pharmaceutical companies. F*** that s***.

Cristina: No more pain pills. Give us something that actually Stops the problem. Yeah.

Jack: If the government has to pay for all of it, they will. They'll have the solution.

Cristina: Yeah, that's. That makes sense. Yes, we should do that. We should do all of that.

Jack: Yes. That's how everything gets better. And we don't. Like, it's alright if people give us crap because that's competition, but not if it's related to human rights and health and.

Cristina: No, but if it's like a hamburger.

Jack: Yeah, if it's like a hamburger. Like, whatever, dude. You're opting into it. Whatever. You can choose which burger you want.

Cristina: Yeah, that's fair competition.

Jack: That's fair competition. They're all selling crap. It's fine.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But, like, not if. Well, I need my cancer medication. But they're just gonna give you some remedy. Because we can't cure cancer. You f****** crazy? We need you back. No, the government is gonna cure your f****** cancer, bro. We can't keep giving this m*********** remedies forever. Give him the f****** cure. Get him the h*** out of here forever.

Cristina: Yes, get out. Because that's. That's wasting their money.

Jack: Yes, and they just want the money and it's fine. Look, let them all get filthy rich. We all just. We all just have to agree. The politicians can be as rich as they want off of tax money so long as all the things that the tax money is there for is covered. Yes, that's an agreement that if we make as people, it doesn't matter how much they steal, so long as all the human rights. Not even human rights, so long as everything that money is there for is covered. We will turn the other way and you can skim however much the f*** is left. But that means medicine is covered. Yeah, soldiers get what the f*** they deserve.

Cristina: But then they have to, like, give us a report on everything.

Jack: Yeah, education is covered. We're talking grade school, high school, college.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We're talking people are paid fair f****** wages.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We're talking the police are paid well, teachers are paid well, firefighters are paid well, medical workers are paid well. Government workers of any rank are paid well. And then whatever the f*** you got left, you can skim off the top. That includes our streets should be fixed, definitely. You know, like, that's government job. You should have our streets fixed because we're paying for that. Infrastructure should be immaculate. Our sewage systems should be spotless. Everything should run clean. There should be no flooding f****** anywhere.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And in this case, we look the other way. We won't even ask what's left. We won't ask don't return any of the money.

Cristina: You.

Jack: You are entitled to all of it.

Cristina: The other thing that we should think of doing because of global warming. If we can't solve that global warming problem. You mean climate change or climate change, Sorry, climate change problem. We should just have all the. Everyone prepared for anything. If there's a hurricane, we need a place to. Not a hurricane, a tornado. We need something for that. Every city should have something for that. For any situation that might happen. Even if it never happens where you're from, just in case. Because you don't know. You don't know if some weird. If a fire is gonna happen and it never happens here. It's always in California. Maybe we should be prepared for that anyways.

Jack: Yeah, that's fair. Have everybody prepared for all the possible disasters that nature might throw at us.

Cristina: Yes, I think that's something we should think about. Besides stopping it or slowing it down or whatever it is, the gold right now. We should also be prepared for all of it.

Jack: That's fair. And all of that calculated into the cost.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Everything covered. Not only that, like, let's be fair. We should also have that system where we check off a list of things we want our money to go to and we choose percentages, right? School and medical and prison and this and that and like all the f****** things and military and blah, blah, blah, like 50 different things on a sheet. And we choose whenever we vote. We can choose to change it. We don't have to. We could just. Whatever the f*** I had last time is what I wanted to be this time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you can ignore it, but at least once you have to fill in this sheet that says where you want it. I guess you don't have to fill in. If you don't, then it's broken up evenly amongst all the things.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But you can check off the boxes you do want it to go to and say, I want all my money broken evenly amongst these things and not going to any of those things.

Cristina: If you're a weirdo that wants like 50% in one thing, maybe 25 in another, could that be an option too? Like maybe a line next to it where they could put percentages can choose.

Jack: How you want it distributed.

Cristina: Yeah, that'd be.

Jack: Now this is an interesting problem, right? Because thinking about this as I say it, so you don't want to fund the police and you say, I don't want any of my tax money to go to the police. But if you called the police, it would still show up at your house because there Isn't something proving that you didn't fund the police?

Cristina: What's the problem with that?

Jack: You're still using a resource that your tax money didn't cover.

Cristina: But then you have to support everything.

Jack: You have to support everything, and you're really just choosing what percentage you want everything to go to.

Cristina: Okay, that's the better option.

Jack: That's the better option because you. If you opt out of anything you shouldn't. You should. Legally, you shouldn't be allowed to use it, but. S***. All right, See the problem?

Cristina: So you got to support everything.

Jack: You got to support everything. The things you don't, because they are functional pieces of your government.

Cristina: Yes. Okay, that makes sense. Yes.

Jack: Now it would be like, I want this much percentage over there this month. So I guess you just choose the distribution. We're in the world of digital anyway, so you could just give us a bunch of sliders on a screen.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We move it and like it. If I pull this up, then all of these percentages go down. So I got to choose and make sure that it's distributed how I want it to be. And then once I hit. Okay, I don't have to do it again.

Cristina: Nope.

Jack: And if I don't do it, then it's evenly broken up amongst all of them, and that's fine.

Cristina: It should be like the voting process isn't like every one year or every.

Jack: Well, for everything. It's every four years, I think.

Cristina: Oh, for everything.

Jack: Most things at least anything we vote for regularly.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, yeah, it should definitely be a voting process.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But it should be optional because maybe you don't want to. And it just goes. Breaks up evenly.

Cristina: Yeah. Automatic.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Even though.

Jack: And I think that's fair because. Yeah, whatever. I don't care. Do whatever you want with it. Yeah, but if I think our military is overfunded and a lot of people, like, what if the majority of the population thinks the military is overfunded? Then we'd have a weaker military by default. But we opted into that.

Cristina: But they will still be getting something.

Jack: They will still be getting something. They're not getting nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And same thing with the police. Maybe our police are overfunded. We would know based on what the people want, not what some politicians are agreeing to. The people did this. The people said this. So I guess we do defund the police and give them less. It's not disband the police, because that's ridiculous. It's defund the police.

Cristina: Then how do we. I guess we would see the results of what the average of the percentage, the total.

Jack: Yeah, everybody's total put together would equal like now this is the new hundred percent with everybody calculated well. Okay, they said there's 20 different things. And they want the police to have only 4%, but they want firefighters to have 10% and they want military to have 4% as well. But they want education to have 20% and the medical system to have 20%. And it's like, okay, so that's how the distribution will be. Now we have $100 trillion in tax every year. Now to that hundred trillion dollars, 20 trillion goes to education and 20 trillion goes to the medical system because 20% was to each of those, while only 4 trillion goes to all the police of the entire country.

Cristina: By seeing this, we can see if they actually change. And do they say they're gonna do.

Jack: So if we as a country say we're, we're, we're attacking the police, we're just removing their funding. They are too savage. Then we could just bring it all down and we chose it. And we could do the opposite and be like, they're underfunded and we got a lot of crime. Let's boost that s*** this year.

Cristina: Yes. Like, it might be a year to year thing. I guess it depends on like how bad things get. If things get horrible the next year, then you're like, okay. And they need to change the.

Jack: They need to campaign for themselves and they need to prove it. Not just by going out there and like, oh, you know, support the police because they'll be out people out there with like a hat. Hey, you know, don't even want to.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or whatever. Except they'll be doing like, hey, you know, put your tax money towards cops. But there will be cops doing good things. Their job will be well, because they know that their budget depends on it. It's no longer. We're gonna get the money no matter what the f*** we do. I'm a f****** officer. I'm the law. I make the rules. You just obey what I say. No, that ceases to exist.

Cristina: Because you're like the good student now. You're like the good student. Like you want to show the teacher.

Jack: How well you're exactly. You get like, I do my job well and I deserve the money. We deserve the money. We've been doing our job well. Look at how low our crime. Look at how low our death rate is. Look how rarely our guns go off. We, we deserve it. We've earned it.

Cristina: Yeah, like we still need to help with this thing though, you know, like we're Doing our best.

Jack: In the case of something like the police, though, this is really unique because. Right. You can have, I guess, incident reports for everything. So not only does the total money get put into. So, okay, now the police get 4%.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So 4% of that trillion. That hundred trillion. So they get $4 trillion. Now, 4 trillion is a cops. 100%. 100% of all cops in the United States are gonna get that 4 trillion broken amongst them. So now these cops need to submit to the government their annual report of this many guns went off, this many incidents were had, this many complaints were had. Also, complaints need to be handled by a separate agency. Because the fact that people go and report crooked cops and then they just throw that away, that's not cool. You should be able to go straight to Internal Affairs.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And not to the police department you're trying to report. You go to internal affairs and you report to cops, and then Internal affairs investigates. Not the same police station that was corrupted in the first place. Trying to report is where you're gonna go report.

Cristina: That's stupid nonsense. Yeah.

Jack: A third party should handle everything, always. So in this case, they always need to submit their report. Or I guess internal affairs investigates and gets a report. And in this instant, whoever follows the rule, like, you have to break up that 4 trillion, which is 100% amongst everybody. The people who performed best get the most. The people who performed worst get the least. So that they have to up their game and be less crooked to earn more money.

Cristina: That's good. Yeah. Then. But they'll also have the proof of, like, what they actually need when the next time they have to ask for more money, they can be more specific about.

Jack: Yeah. If it's like, okay, our guns go off too often. Well, your cops need more training.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So we're only gonna give you more money. But that money can only be used for more training.

Cristina: Yeah. Things like that work.

Jack: So it'll be distributed. Very calculated, all of it. Micromanage everything.

Cristina: That's a lot of work. But also a lot of jobs.

Jack: A lot of jobs.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's a lot of jobs. You make a lot of jobs, this country gets funded. It's a lot of jobs, man.

Cristina: It works out.

Jack: It works out.

Cristina: No one can complain about jobs. There'll be too many jobs.

Jack: There'll be too many jobs.

Cristina: We'll have more people.

Jack: Yeah, we're gonna need more people. Everybody can have a job.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What's gonna happen is all the people who do have the capacity will put them through some tests and then give Them these jobs, which will then remove people from the jobs of like construction and landscaping because all they have to do is manage funds and whatever in these other places. Construction, landscaping, sewage workers, trash picker, upper people. Any of these people who had a mind are gonna be plucked out of those jobs, leaving mad vacancies. Now people coming out of high school and not going to college can go and get these jobs immediately, while the people who are gonna go and fill in more corporate jobs get passes into college because college is provided by the government anyways. And you can go if you want to for f****** free.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so all the jobs are covered, all the education is covered, there's a cease of corruption at least when it comes to government related things because you need to prove it to the people every f****** time. Always.

Cristina: Yes. D*** beautiful. Yes.

Jack: Fixing the country.

Cristina: Well, for our ideas, for ideas.

Jack: There's probably mad holes and everything inside somebody. If you find the holes, don't tell.

Cristina: Us what you mean, don't tell us.

Jack: Let us know.

Cristina: Let us know.

Jack: Drop it in the comments below. Below or above or on the left or on the right or on a different screen. Some people got the dual screen experience.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, it's not like this is like.

Cristina: You send us an email. That's a different screen.

Jack: Email us. Yeah, exactly, email us how it's. I guess it's a different window technically.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, email us at someplace@wherewhere.com. and so yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. Of which there are many. There are many in which we fix the government according to our personal views because we're right and everybody else is wrong. And politicians who went to school and took civics and were lawyers to begin with and studied this their whole lives and have done nothing but work at this their whole lives. We know better. Yes, we know better.

Cristina: We do everything we said I'm sure is correct.

Jack: Yeah. Way more correct than anything they've ever said.

Cristina: We're the correctest, we're educated and there's nothing from Illuminati. And they're definitely know what they're talking about.

Jack: Yeah, the Illuminati controls so much and understands so much. So like, look, you politicians want to fix the world, you do what we say. You do what we say right the f*** now anyways. You can find those episodes related to all these things. There's a bunch of them. There's one where we break down how the branches of government work. There's one where we talk about different types of laws and abortion and how politics affects religion and just A bunch of different things.

Cristina: Like a lot of political episodes. Yeah, there's.

Jack: There's quite a.

Cristina: So random.

Jack: Yeah, we got like a good maybe 10 to 15 political episodes. So you can go find those. Just skim through names. I'll tell you what they're about. And you can find those at all the places, including the official website, greatthoughts.info and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, @TikTok@justconvopod.

Jack: Yes. And also make sure to leave us a nice review. You know, leave us some stars of any amount. Subscribe. You subscribe, you rate and you review. But the review is kind of the most important part. Or is it the subscription? I guess it's a subscription and then it's the review.

Cristina: And you gotta subscribe to us everywhere.

Jack: Yeah, it has to be everywhere.

Cristina: Find us everywhere. And you subscribe us on all those platforms.

Jack: Yeah, because when you're not paying attention to one, you'll hear about us on the other and you'll be like, oh, the newest thing on the. So you subscribe on all the places.

Cristina: Yes. And then you listen to us on each one.

Jack: Yeah. And then we get an extra hit from you everywhere. And then you're so familiar with the episode by the last one, which is like 15 in. Yeah, like 15 hours of one episode.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: And each one, it's 15 times by the last one. You could say what we're saying as we're saying it. It's like a song. Like you memorize a song.

Cristina: Well, let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is overpowered. Make sure to get people to listen. And also you can find me on the stereo app having conversations with complete strangers at random moments. I never really know when I'm gonna be there, so you pretty much just have to follow me and I guess, like, turn on notifications or some s***.

Cristina: Listen to old episodes.

Jack: Yeah, there's a bunch of old episodes, which is, in theory, the same. When I have guests, you know, when there's a guest on the show, we have them and it's just a random conversation. And stereo is basically me doing that with a bunch of strangers. So if you like. When I have guests on the conversation podcast, it's the same sort of the same thing with just complete strangers that drift in and out sometimes it'll be many different conversations with many strangers over the course of an hour or two. Sometimes we're lucky enough to find somebody who's interesting and I don't feel the need to get the h*** out of there. And we'll have a long conversation that lasts one or two hours with one person.

Cristina: Yeah. So if you like our guest episodes, go follow us there.

Jack: Yes. Eventually we might figure out how to convert. That is something that we could play over here. But in the meantime, go find it on Sero app.

Cristina: Yes. And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing presido and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. Winters and death. Winters and death. Winters and death. Embrace.

Cristina: How? How, sir, How?

Jack: Winter dance.

Cristina: That's not a thing. That can happen. That's not a thing. Turds and death can embrace whatever was. The t*** is embrace. Embrace in death. But the t*** is embraced whatever the t*** was before it was the t***.

Jack: So you're telling me a t*** is an inanimate object?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Well, here's the thing. We have a galvanization list, or I guess a list of life. And turds fall into which one.

Cristina: What?

Jack: They're made of cells. Living.

Cristina: Those cells are dead.

Jack: Are they?

Cristina: They're dead.

Jack: Are turds made of. Let's do this. Let's find out with the power of goggles. Is poo made of cells?

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 142: Slow Burn Apocalypse

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Is everything a lie? Are there aliens? Were there more Native American lives lost that we can fathom when arriving in America? Is Western Culture manipulated by media? And is this virus actually as bad as we are told it is? The clones try to unpack what is true and how western society has corrupted the minds of its people.

Rambling 142: Slow Burn Apocalypse

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Michael Horn
  • Aliens
  • Hive Mentality
  • Under Performing
  • Western Culture
  • Individualism
  • Corrupt Western Culture
  • Unity
  • Political Teams
  • Native American Genocide
  • Hawaiian Slaves
  • Tornado in Jersey
  • Climate Change Isn’t Real
  • Slow Burn Apocalypse

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast. The show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: And this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to grab somebody, pull them aside, bring them to you, and have a hefty, hefty listening session about, on through this show.

Cristina: This show. It's gonna be 10 hours long.

Jack: 10 hours long. It's gonna be the longest show we've ever had.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean the show we had with Dave was pretty long.

Cristina: That was.

Jack: That was one of the first. What was it the second time we had him that we were just there for like five hours.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Breaking them records, man. We were on some Joe Rogan time.

Cristina: Yeah. Was it Comedy Bang Bang did one that was like 12 hours long.

Jack: No, they did their 10 hour episode.

Cristina: 10 hours?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: We gotta do a 10 hour.

Jack: Never happening.

Cristina: Never happening.

Jack: That's hardcore. He did that by having like 20 guests.

Cristina: Yeah, you can come up with 20 guests somehow.

Jack: What? You know how hard it is to just find somebody interesting? There's a lot of people. It's just people aren't necessarily interesting.

Cristina: Yeah, we'll do it on the radio app thing. Stereo. We'll just have. We'll be there 10 hours straight.

Jack: 10 hours straight. Getting ramp. The problem with that is that it's inconsistent people. It's just a lot of waiting as people come through and like nobody falls into the room. So as soon as we're done with somebody who had to leave because it's 10 hours, then we have like 20 minutes of silence.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Waiting for somebody to show up during that time. Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: It will keep going, just filling in the gap.

Jack: Interesting. But then how do we mute the f****** search thing on the stereo app? I hate that sound there.

Cristina: You check the options for that?

Jack: No, but it's f****** annoying. I hope I can turn it off if we can't. And if we can't. That's my point. I haven't checked the options. So if we can't, then what?

Cristina: But if we can.

Jack: But if we can't, then why. Obviously if we can, then success.

Cristina: Yeah. But if we can't, we find 10 people and have an hour conversation with Each of them. Is that how it works? I don't think anyone can do an hour. I mean. No, we do that all the time.

Jack: Yeah. With five people we can do two hours a piece.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The problem is also scheduling that.

Cristina: Well, some people, if they could schedule in like a half an hour, like, well, it will be varied the time schedule of everyone so they can choose the amount of time they want to take out for this 10 hour thing.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. So it could be like half an hour or maybe someone's like I could be there half an hour in the beginning, but then I'll be five hours later. I'll be free to do two hours or something and then they could come back.

Jack: That seems so annoying to have. That's like not even a little interesting. Because it would be too difficult to organize.

Cristina: Yeah, that is.

Jack: It'd be kind of a pain in the a**. That just sucks out the want to do that at all.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Having to schedule million people in different time slots and different organizations. This person leaves, comes back, that person's gonna be here this long in the middle. This person's only gonna this time. But that's gonna be the app that s***.

Cristina: So no 10 hour. No, no. You can do a 10 minute episode. That would be unique.

Jack: Right. People are boring and I'm not doing that. The problem is people suck. And getting so many people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Sucks. Yes, it sucks. Never in a million years am I gonna do that. That's why we have so few guests. Generally speaking. I'm not just gonna have whack people coming through. It needs to be content that people can be like wow, interesting or somebody actually I don't give a if they like it. I, I need to like talking to.

Cristina: The person like wow, interesting.

Jack: Yeah, I have to want to talk to this person. Yeah, I'm just gonna pick a bunch of garbage people.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: Because that sucks. Who the wants to do that? I don't know, just I'm the one taught. You could talk to them if you want to talk to them.

Cristina: I don't think so.

Jack: I'm not gonna be here talking to a bunch of boring people. Yeah, I'm not doing that either. I'm not going to be here talking to a bunch of wack people who've got nothing interesting to say. No, I want people who just open minded and want to discuss their thoughts and their ideas.

Cristina: Yeah, I wonder. We need to do a episode though with a guest that we have questions from our listeners, especially Mike.

Jack: That's for Michael Horn.

Cristina: Yeah, Michael Horn.

Jack: H*** yeah.

Cristina: Specifically I know we have questions for him. Backed up.

Jack: Yes. No question at all. For season six. There's that Michael Horn's coming back.

Cristina: He has to.

Jack: He has to.

Cristina: He has to. There's people.

Jack: Yes, people have questions.

Cristina: I have questions.

Jack: Yeah, me too.

Cristina: Me too.

Jack: I gotta listen back. There was. It was an information dump, man.

Cristina: It was.

Jack: There was a lot going on.

Cristina: There's too much going on. And if you actually look up the research on these websites, it's just so much info, so thorough. I don't know how anyone can like spend their time researching this topic. It's.

Jack: Yeah, no, you were either there from the start or you're never catching up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or get Michael Horn and he'll teach you. Yes, he's gonna teach you the ways.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Interesting though.

Cristina: And who knows what other interesting things happened to him after we talked to him.

Jack: I mean, nothing really happened to him.

Cristina: No. But he was there at least on one of those events.

Jack: He was there through many of the events.

Cristina: Oh, many of them, yeah. So yeah.

Jack: It's just nothing happened to him.

Cristina: No.

Jack: He's just witnessing stuff happen to Billy Meyer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's pretty dope, man. Just watching basically a current day messiah experience. Weird anomalies and like supernatural events happening from like time traveling and interdimensional aliens and s***.

Cristina: And evil robots.

Jack: They were evil robots.

Cristina: Evil Internet entity.

Jack: Oh, the sentient like conglomerate thing that.

Cristina: Was made out of prayers.

Jack: Made out of prayers?

Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was made out of prayers of hate or some weird thing like that.

Jack: Yeah. I don't know.

Cristina: It's a complicated story.

Jack: There's a lot going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot going on in there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's a crazy world. I definitely want him back. My question is, is he the only person who has like Billy Meyer, is he the only, like. Let's say this alien race is real, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they are. It's truly happening. All the events that we were told by Michael Horn has happened to Billy are real. Does. Are there others and does he know of them?

Cristina: Yes, because there's a lot of people who have talked to aliens. So has anyone talked to the same aliens?

Jack: That's an interesting question. Is it like this specific alien race only interacts with him and nevertheless these aliens are us somehow?

Cristina: Yeah. So how do they. I don't know. There's us somehow they're us in the future or something.

Jack: So it was something like that. They're genetically the same.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Whether we share ancestors or we literally are them, like in the future. Like we are the Ancestors, of course, or something. Somehow those aliens and us are identical.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he's also talked with other aliens besides those specific ones. Have he? Has he talked to the one from. That guy from Area 51 that he was talking to? That alien that was working with him? Did that guy ever escape and talk to other people?

Jack: The guy from Area 51?

Cristina: Yeah. He was talking to an alien that was. He was helping build a spaceship with or break down a spaceship or some crazy story like that.

Jack: Oh, you mean Dave. Is it last something Lazaro.

Cristina: From Joe Rogan, I think it was that he was talking about that story.

Jack: I mean, he was on Joe Rogan. He ain't from Joe Rogan. He's not like. Well, Joe Rogan has a group of people that have.

Cristina: He might.

Jack: He might. He has a re. Now. He has the resources.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: After his Spotify deal, who knows, he might be running Area 51.

Cristina: What? So, yeah, what if that guy's alien buddy has contacted Bob? Bob?

Jack: Oh, Bob and Billy. Oh, man. They sound their names, tell me they know each other.

Cristina: They have to.

Jack: It's Bob, Billy, and Steve.

Cristina: Who's Steve?

Jack: I don't know. Some other guy.

Cristina: Oh, my.

Jack: The other guy who talked to the aliens. Bob, Billy, Steve, Frank.

Cristina: So the aliens just pick the most boring name.

Jack: Yeah, Mike. Just a Bob, Billy, Frank, Steve, Mike. All these guys?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're the only people allowed to talk to aliens. What if your name is complicated? Like, you can't be a zachariah and talk to the aliens. They're like, nah, I can't say your name, so I'm not talking to you. I'm insulted, but Bob, Mike. No. Jesus.

Cristina: What was his name? They said his. His name is not Jesus.

Jack: No, his name wasn't Jesus. It was Emmanuel.

Cristina: Emmanuel? Yeah.

Jack: That is a pretty complex name.

Cristina: That's a complicated name.

Jack: That's why they stopped. That's why they're like, we're over this. We're just talking to Billy, Mike, Frank, Steve, Bob, all these.

Cristina: That's has to be one or two.

Jack: One. One vowel. That's it.

Cristina: That's it. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Nothing more than that.

Cristina: That's awesome. Maybe we can go visit him and see for ourselves the weird things.

Jack: Is it. Who?

Cristina: Billy, Bob, whatever.

Jack: Isn't he. Isn't he, like, German or something?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: So, like, we will totally not be able to communicate with him.

Cristina: No. But we have Michael to communicate with us.

Jack: My question is, does Michael speak German? Like, we never asked him this. How does. How does he Communicate? Do they just have a translator present at all times?

Cristina: A translator?

Jack: Or does he know German?

Cristina: He must by now because he lives there.

Jack: He lives in Switzerland, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you speak. No, he speaks Swiss German.

Cristina: Swiss German?

Jack: That's a whole language of its own, the Swiss German. Like the Germans don't understand Swiss German, but the Swiss Germans understand German.

Cristina: But they're both in Swiss Switzerland.

Jack: What, German? No, Germany is its own place.

Cristina: Billy is also there.

Jack: Oh yeah, they're both in. In. In Switzerland.

Cristina: Yeah. So he must have picked up some Swiss German.

Jack: Yeah. I mean, depending how long he's been there. Was he there when we were talking to him?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: So that's fascinating. You gotta go meet him, hang out.

Jack: Yeah, maybe not.

Cristina: Some weird stuff happens.

Jack: Yeah, probably not.

Cristina: Probably not. Maybe the aliens will contact you somehow.

Jack: I doubt it, but I would like to. I don't know. It's really interesting. Aliens are complicated, man. I wonder like what system an alien goes through to contact people.

Cristina: Really, what system?

Jack: Like, what logic do they use to reach out and talk to somebody? Like, is it one just bored on chat or is it like, well, I gotta give you a secret message.

Cristina: It's always a secret message.

Jack: No, it's not always a secret message. Some people just receive some intercepted s*** that had nothing to do with them.

Cristina: Allegedly.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah. Why would aliens want to talk to us?

Jack: I don't know, maybe to see if we're intelligent. It'd be like if we could really start. I would have a conversation with the dolphin. Give me whatever's going to translate it and I just. I want to see, I want to know. I'm curious.

Cristina: That is pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah. Would you want to talk to other animals though? Like even dumber animals? Would that matter? Like if you could communicate? Like they always talk about us to aliens, would be like us to ants. Wouldn't you want to know even if they said one word or.

Jack: Yeah, be like, what is the one word that the ant is going to say? Yeah, like I would totally.

Cristina: They just say. They just scream all day or something. I don't know. But you will get to hear what's in their mind if there is something there.

Jack: I think like ants, we would just hear work, work, work, work, work, work, work over and over and over and over and work, work, work.

Cristina: What is the queen saying?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Is the queen the same like the bee? The queen bee that she's just.

Jack: Yeah, the queen just chills at home. Yeah, they.

Cristina: That sucks. That's great. I guess, yeah.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: What would her word be?

Jack: I know, you tell me.

Cristina: Work.

Jack: Work. She's just screaming work. And they're like, okay, we're gonna work.

Cristina: Yeah. And then she's lashing them with her whip or something.

Jack: I mean, she isn't the slave driver. They're not slaves.

Cristina: They're not.

Jack: They volunteer, they're loyal, they're patriots.

Cristina: Oh, okay. They are. I thought they were more like the guys from Star Trek, that they're just together one minded.

Jack: Oh, the Borg.

Cristina: Yeah. Like it's not. It's kind of slavery still.

Jack: It's no in. In Star Trek, it's slavery.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because it's against their will. They've been forced. They're not part of this. They've been forced into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're born into it. And it's just their culture.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And culture is. We always protect the queen. We do whatever for her whenever. And we, you know, we're community. We work together to make everything function.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's totally the opposite of humans where we're like, nah, f*** this s***. Individualism. Then again, that's Western culture s***. Because Eastern culture has. They don't have as much individualism.

Cristina: Then what is their main thing? They work together.

Jack: Yeah. It's not individualism. The opposite of that would be unity.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Individualism is problematic because, I mean, it distinguishes you from others.

Cristina: And that's a bad thing.

Jack: Yeah. Because we are kind of selfish.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Eastern culture has a complete and total lack of that. And like, family is really f****** important in Eastern culture. In Eastern culture, family is really important. Community is really important. You do whatever you can for your workplace. You do whatever you can for your family. You endure the hard times because it is important. Because society functions on sacrifice. Over here, my job sucks. I f****** quit.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Boom. Now that job has one less person that affects the economy in a minor way. But you put the collective of people across the entire country who just randomly quit a job and that tiny little hit. But collectively, ooh, the impact. And then we're like, well, our economy sucks. It's like casually abandoning jobs, casually picking up jobs only looking for jobs that we're under qualified to have, then underperforming at the job in the first place because I'm special and I deserve this. Meanwhile other places like, well, I'll start at the bottom. That's what everybody does. And then I'll work my way up if I earn it.

Cristina: Because it's about the company.

Jack: It's about making sure the company looks good. I'M part of the company and if I look good and I make the company look good, then I'm valuable and I go up in the company. Over here it's like, no. Well, you don't treat me that way because I'm an individual.

Cristina: The company is the enemy.

Jack: Yeah. Over here we fight. We're lazy, dude. Western people are f****** lazy.

Cristina: We are. That's why we have driving cars.

Jack: Self driving cars.

Cristina: Self driving cars. Like that's the future. That's. Everything's going to be like that.

Jack: Yeah. That's fair.

Cristina: Although we already do have stuff like that. Like those weird things the cops use. What is it that they. It just drives like a Segway. Yeah, Segway.

Jack: I don't walk anywhere. I stand and I just glide places.

Cristina: Yes. It's crazy that. Not. There's a lot of people using that. That's ridiculous.

Jack: You ever seen the skinny person use it?

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: I'm sure there's a few. They're on scooters. That's what they're doing. Electric scooters.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's the same thing.

Jack: Yeah, more or less.

Cristina: Yeah. It just looks cooler.

Jack: It's f****** weird, though. But I don't know, it's. Whatever. Individualism does fail hard, though. It's not designed like, the system isn't designed to have like the human system. The human isn't designed for individualism. That's a pretty recent concept.

Cristina: How recent?

Jack: Pretty recent? I don't know. At some point.

Cristina: At some point.

Jack: It used to not be that way, though, because it used to be. Think of Native Americans. Right? There wasn't like your kid. My kid. There was like the kid of the tribe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And like kids crying. I don't tell you. Hey, your f****** kid is crying. Go handle your business. I go handle the kid. Because he's our kid, part of our tribe, and we take care of each other.

Cristina: Now. There's no trust, though, for that type of distraction. There's no tribe. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. There's individualism.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: There is no tribe.

Cristina: Yes. And now we just don't trust anyone.

Jack: Yeah. Everybody's bad. Everybody's the enemy. It has to be me over you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Always.

Cristina: Always. For everything.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That's what the whole mass thing is about. Or pretty much everything on the news is about everything.

Jack: Always. Well, they. Yeah, they force it. They 100% try to force individualism on everybody because it keeps people divided, too. If you're united, then you're not like. Well, you're the enemy. No, no, no. We're the same. We're from the same class, we're from the same neighborhood where we go to the same schools, we work the same jobs. We're. We're the same.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Those people are the enemy. They can't have that. Western society needs you to, like, attack you because then you attack. Or if you're not attacking yourself, you're attacking them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Individualism is good for the elites, and.

Cristina: That'S why it's here.

Jack: That's why it's here.

Cristina: That's crazy. What?

Jack: There's way less corruption in Eastern culture.

Cristina: Are you sure? How do you know that?

Jack: Because there's way less corruption in Eastern culture. Usually the government is the one handling not. It's not even corrupted. It's just usually manipulating the people in, like, a blatantly obvious way. They're not corrupt and hidden in the shadows doing sketchy conspiracy s***. Like, there's crime everywhere. No s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But over here, like, everybody is criminal. If you are elite, chances are you're doing something sketchy.

Cristina: Yes. Over there, it's not sketchy because it's out in the open a lot of the times.

Jack: Because it's all for the sake of the bigger picture.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Everybody's in. Like, honor is important in Eastern culture. Heavily.

Cristina: Yes. We don't have that.

Jack: We don't have that. So if you do something that violates your honor, you're kind of f***** up and your business might be screwed. And if you're a dishonorable person, you're probably going to be fired because you don't want to make the company look bad.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You see, it's really, really important over here. That doesn't matter at all.

Cristina: It doesn't.

Jack: What my question is, then, places like in Russia, does that count as Eastern culture? Sort of the middle ground, Right? A little bit of here, a little bit of there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because, like, are Russians united? I have no, like, I got no reference point for that.

Cristina: Are they. They're. They're Eastern, maybe.

Jack: You think. You think they're Eastern? That counts as an Eastern culture?

Cristina: Not sure.

Jack: I feel like they're kind of Western, but, like, I couldn't tell you for sure.

Cristina: I couldn't. No. They're very close to the Eastern culture.

Jack: They are literally touching Eastern countries. That's not the point of where they're, like, geographically located. I'm saying, like, what is their culture like?

Cristina: Huh? I had no idea.

Jack: It's interesting, right? Because based on what we hear, they're also communists, you know. Okay, great, whatever. So it's a communist country.

Cristina: But, like, how do they work together. Do they work together?

Jack: Do they work together? How are the people?

Cristina: How are the people? Yeah.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They do casually turn on each other. They have real rigid laws and stuff. Here's the flip side. Right. Individualism allows everybody to have a certain amount of rights and we acknowledge when they're being violated.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That does not exist in Eastern culture.

Cristina: It doesn't exist. What do you mean?

Jack: Okay, for example, protest. No. Like cops being racist towards black people.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That doesn't happen in eastern culture where there's like a specific group of people that cops are being racist to and then it's being acknowledged in the news and in the media and people are rioting and doing things to solve that problem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Does not happen because police are part of the system and you got to be united.

Cristina: Yes. So they're probably not being racist.

Jack: They're probably being racist somebody. But it's not being addressed or protest or fought or fixed. Because then that would make the police look bad.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So the individual doesn't matter. It matters that the police retains trust because when there's something really bad happening, we need the people to trust the police.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: Over here we don't trust the police. Which means if something really bad were to happen, probably really bad things would continue to happen because we wouldn't allow the police to do their job. But when there isn't something really bad happening, the police are abusing their power anyways. Double edged sword on both ends. Because in the other side. Yes. We make sure that people trust the police no matter what. But then the police can casually abuse their power.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Without it ever being addressed.

Cristina: Why is it so easy for them to do that?

Jack: Interesting. I just think more places need to be like France.

Cristina: The whole protesting thing.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Whole country rises up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's you. They're f******. They're western though.

Cristina: We did that.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: In the summertime. Not this summer. Last summer. Yeah. But it was a one time event. But it happened.

Jack: It kind of wasn't necessarily though.

Cristina: It wasn't like France.

Jack: No, it wasn't like France because we had resistance from the people here too. It was not just the people striking against the government, but a whole other half of the people siding with the government.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: France is like the people versus the government. Here was like the people versus the people versus the government.

Cristina: Because it's always going to be like that here though.

Jack: Yeah. The problem is individualism. Left, right, Politics.

Cristina: Yes. Team. It's a team sport.

Jack: Every team base, you know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's Problematic.

Cristina: Was that part of individualism? Why is there teams instead of one against all or I guess, yeah, one against all. Does the team make you feel like that still, I guess, gives you that same feeling of like, it's me against everyone else?

Jack: Well, here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. The left is really where individualism comes in. The right, it's so. Oh God, it's so weird and convoluted. Right.

Cristina: Because the right sometimes is about individualism or. No.

Jack: Well, let me explain. The left has the whole everybody is everybody, but we are together as a thing, doing the thing. So, you know, the government should decide unanimous things for large groups of people. And you know, it's going to decide to affect our medical systems and it's going to choose to provide programs and these things that are big giant sweeps that kind of remove individualism, affect everybody as a whole, and it shafts the individuals who disagree. Yeah, it's like, f*** your s***. So they're anti individual in that instant. But also that's politically speaking, because sociologically they're like, I'm a person and I'm like a black trans Z and he's a transracial person. And this guy over here is like, you know, all these weird labels that make us different. Well, I'm gay, I'm lesbian, I'm bi, I'm straight. Well, I'm gender this, gender that, and well, I'm goth and I'm preppy and like, individualism. Yeah, but politically speaking, the government should affect all of us at the same time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you go to the right and it flips where the right is like, no, we stand together. We stand together as individuals to f*** individuality. We gotta stand together and make sure we don't get screwed by the government. But then the second anything happens, politically speaking, they're like, but my rights. My rights are being violated. Yeah, I should have the right to. It's like, wait, you guys. You guys are weird because where they are individualists, you are together. And where you are together, they are individualists.

Cristina: When it comes to abortion, it's the opposite, though. Where the Democrats are like, it's our. My individual.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: While the Republicans are like, no, we got to do this together of not having.

Jack: Yeah, we got to band together and force them to do things. It's weird. It's like there's no consistency.

Cristina: No, no, there's not.

Jack: There's totally a.

Cristina: It's random.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But once they decide the side that's the side they're Sticking to.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And the other side, of course, picks the opposite because that's just how the game goes.

Jack: That's f****** weird, right?

Cristina: Yes. It's a team sport.

Jack: It is a team sport, and it depends on which team you are. And you don't even need to have the belief. I actually had this conversation recently in which the problem with knowing the names of people. This is a conversation about philosophy. Right. And I was explaining why I don't like knowing philosopher names. The same reason I like. I don't know why somebody did something in chemistry. Like, I don't care why you came up with the thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm fascinated by the chemistry.

Cristina: You don't care how they grew up.

Jack: Yeah. I don't care about your story or whatever.

Cristina: F***.

Jack: In philosophy, the problem is, if you have a set of ideologies that comes from one individual, and you're familiar with the individual and you agree with the majority of what they say, you try to base your identity on everything they said because you're familiar with the individual.

Cristina: They'Re gonna agree with everything.

Jack: You're gonna try. And you're gonna try to justify everything based on. Because. Well, I agree with 75% of everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The other 25%. Yeah, that too. I'm gonna figure out how it fits. But if you don't know the names or who, you don't know. Well, these seven ideas came from the same guy.

Cristina: Yeah. You just pick and choose what you truly believe.

Jack: Exactly. You just know the seven individual ideas.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You have no idea they came from the same guy. And you're like. Well, three of them make sense. The other four can kiss my a**. That doesn't make any sense. Now you grab. You pick and choose from everybody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you build a cohesive framework for your personality. The philosophies that work for you, that is.

Cristina: That's the way to do it. Wow.

Jack: Yes. Versus, well, Descartes at this, this and that. And I know that's kind of crazy over there, but also, I kind of have. I have to. Even if you don't know you're doing that, your mind is doing that because you're relating to the guy and you want to relate to the most excruciating detail.

Cristina: Yeah. That's interesting. They should just take the good and separate the bad. Yeah.

Jack: Yes. But people don't do that.

Cristina: Like Freud. Lots of people don't like a lot of things Freud said, but I'm sure there's some good stuff there too. That's why people learn about him.

Jack: Yeah. A lot of what he discussed was psychology, not physiology or genetics. He had a lot of crap that he thought was coming from genetics. And like, biologically you want to do this? Yeah, it's like, not really, dude. Yeah, but there were a lot of psychology things that were accurate. Yeah, many, many, many. But the problem is. Well, I'm familiar with Freud and he proposed this in psychology, which turned out true. Which means that his proposals about genetics must be accurate.

Cristina: Which makes no sense.

Jack: Which makes no f****** sense.

Cristina: The idea of just taking what you like makes a. Like so much.

Jack: But in order to do that effectively, because your mind is going to try to guide you onto the whole team sport aspect of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You need to not be familiar with.

Cristina: The individual, but you could at least know their names.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Because if you know the person's name and you know all the others they came from.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because what would be the. Okay, I know Descartes was a philosopher, but I don't know what he offered, so who gives a s***?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Who is Descartes? Well, I know he said stuff.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it's only valuable if you know what he said. Otherwise who cares about his name?

Cristina: Okay, so just take the ideas.

Jack: Yeah. You should ignore the philosoph, the philosopher, and only know the philosophies. Because if you are familiar with the philosopher and you want to identify with.

Cristina: The philosopher, that's where it gets all muddy and stuff.

Jack: Muddy. Yes, that's exactly what happens with politics.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It doesn't need to make sense. They said Republican and you said you're Republican.

Cristina: So now you must relate in every Republican idea. Yes.

Jack: All the Republican ideas you must relate with. Now if I grabbed all the ideas from both sides. From both sides and didn't tell you who is supporting what at the moment. I told you, one candidate has some of them, the other candidate has some of them. Here are all the ideas. I need you to check off which ones you agree with.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you wrote them off. You'd be blown away by how many on the other side.

Cristina: That would be so interesting because it might be 50. 50, who knows? We have no idea because everyone always sticks to their team. What if we did it that way? I wonder how gray it would be. Very gray.

Jack: Could just. It's that experiment that happened on. On YouTube. Right. That they walked up to a bunch of Republicans, Trump supporters, specifically.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And they went up to them with Hitler quotes and said Trump said them. And they were like, yeah, I agree.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: And they were just. Because they think Trump Said it. They're just agreeing by default. Their mind as well. Trump said this. I agree. From this point, even if they don't know what's happening.

Cristina: Yeah, that's the state. Because that's their team leader.

Jack: Yes. But the same thing could be done for the left where they're like, well, these are all liberal ideologies and we want to know which ones of them you agree with. And if you're already identified as a liberal and they approach them with these totally Republican ideologies, you're like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, well, no, it was done.

Jack: Both of those are videos on YouTube where they're just proving that people are supporting their own biases. It's all confirmation bias.

Cristina: Yes. I feel like they've done that with religious quotes too.

Jack: Yes, they've totally done that with. Yeah, specifically Christianity where they've approached them with random quotes from other books and.

Cristina: Like, yeah, you like this one. And of course people are gonna like it and.

Jack: Yeah, because I think it's not from the Bible that they never f****** picked up once.

Cristina: Yeah, yep.

Jack: It's all. It's team sports. You're just gonna side with your team no matter what, even if it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: Cheer them on, whether they're winning or losing.

Jack: Fanatics versus players. The player knows the nuances. Yeah, they understand. Well, this a****** on my team is the reason we're f****** failing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're like, no, everybody on that team is better than everybody on that other team that I'm against. F*** that other team. But the people who are playing, you're the fanatic. You're like, my team over that team. But the people on the field are like, man, Bob is on our team. Bob sucks. He's the reason we always f****** up. But the f****** fans are like, well, Bob is part of the team, therefore, yeah, my team. Bob's a s*** because he's on my team.

Cristina: Politicians acting like, I guess, players.

Jack: Yes. They turn on each other because they know who's crooked, who's corrupt, who's the problem and who's not.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But the fans are gonna support those people no matter what until they've been removed from the team. And then like, no, that guy was a problem. Yeah, like now you think so?

Cristina: Cuz team going against one person, it doesn't matter why they're going against that person. You're probably, if you're on that, you're rooting for that team. You're like, yeah, okay, I guess he sucks.

Jack: Yeah, you flip, you flip on whoever. If the Other team members do.

Cristina: Yeah. What? It is like a sport.

Jack: It is a sport. It's 100% a sport. But we're taught it's a sport.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What is politics if not debate team? They give you a random topic that you're. You don't even necessarily need to support the topic.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You just have to argue in its favor. That is literally what happens in debate team. You get put on one of two sides and you're just gonna argue the point whether or not you agree with the point. They're not saying, what do you believe? Support why you believe it. They're saying, here's your topic. Learn to defend this topic, whether or not you agree, because you're on that team. That's the logic here. You're on that team when you're just.

Cristina: The other people on that team. You all have to still agree to that thing.

Jack: Yeah, we're taught to think that way.

Cristina: Yes. But is that happening in all the other Western countries? Are they all team players as well?

Jack: Interesting. I. Yeah, I think it's all left, right. I think that's really Western thing. It's democracy. Everything is left, right. There's barely any other f****** teams. Some countries rarely. But some countries have multiple different parties that can run. But on average, you got some sort of conservative versus liberal ideology going on. Conservative versus progressive.

Cristina: But in Western. No, Eastern culture. What would that be like? They have to have parties too, right? They probably have all the parties.

Jack: China doesn't. Let's just say dictatorship.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Does Russia.

Cristina: So is Russia. So is Russia. Now, Western, Eastern crap.

Jack: I don't know. Because eastern culture includes South Korea and they have democracy and you elect. So it's not just. You are Eastern, therefore.

Cristina: No. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: You are like in a dictatorship.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You're not communist just because you are Eastern.

Cristina: No, it's more complicated.

Jack: Yeah, but I don't really know because I'm sure. But then South Korea is way more together, you know, like, they might not agree with their leader, but they all stand by him. Yeah, that's very different. It's like, well, he's the guy we have right now. We just deal with him for the meantime over here. We're like, f****** get him out. F*** that guy. He sucks. We won't protest, right? It's like, wow, we're not united.

Cristina: We're not over there.

Jack: We don't agree with him. But, you know, he. Let's give him a chance. Let's figure it out. Next guy comes in, well, election time. We'll figure it out.

Cristina: It feels Like, I don't know, over here. It's a mess. It's kind of a mess right now. Yeah, everyone sees it as a mess.

Jack: When has it not? We had a civil war.

Cristina: We had a civil war. Yeah.

Jack: Like, when was this not a mess? Yeah, like, let's. Let's backtrack, right?

Cristina: It's always been a mess.

Jack: Yeah, it was. Biden isn't the mess we get. Let's go back to. Well, Trump is in the mess. Okay. Let's go back to Obama. No, Obama is in this. Okay.

Cristina: The first president.

Jack: Yeah. Because we go to Bush. Well, no, Bush wasn't. It's a Clinton. He's a good. No, it wasn't Reagan, was it? No, it wasn't. Like, who was it? Because everybody was.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The closest thing, the flawless we had was Teddy Roosevelt. And he was crazy controversial.

Cristina: Yes. He's the guy that shot that guy, right?

Jack: No, you're thinking about Nixon.

Cristina: Oh, Richard Nixon.

Jack: Was it Nixon? Somebody, I don't know. Somebody shot somebody. I know you're talking about, but yeah. No, it's kind of f***** like that.

Cristina: It is. It's all our fault though. We. We're on. What is this? Sacred Indian burial land.

Jack: It wasn't originally and I don't, to be fair, I don't think the. Were the Indians spread out across the entire country evenly.

Cristina: What if they were?

Jack: That's crazy.

Cristina: A lot of dead people.

Jack: Like, we don't know then. This isn't discussed. This isn't taught in school. We know, we came and like, we're loosely taught, you know, Christopher Columbus, he's a hero. He discovered. You didn't discover s***. There were people here. But he's a hero and he brought America. He's America. He's the reason America and whatever. Right. So we know, you know, some people died, some people died. But let's, let's really think about this really, really hard. Christopher Columbus entered through the east, right. And then even until the. What is it, early 1800s, when cowboys and s*** are still happening. Late 1700s, early 1800s, when the west is starting to be filled out, who were they fighting? The f****** Native Americans.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the Native Americans didn't just stretch from the east age all the way all the way to the west, it went all the way. So they covered every inch of everything all the way until the west, where the Wild west was at.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we still were murdering them that whole time. We didn't stop murdering them until there were no more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the question is, we don't get told the numbers. But what are the numbers?

Cristina: It's high. So high.

Jack: Were they in the millions, probably, or were they small tribes and we're just picking them off?

Cristina: I'm saying millions.

Jack: You say millions, right?

Cristina: Like we keep finding schools with dead children and those are in the hundreds.

Jack: But from when was that? How far back is that?

Cristina: 1800S, you think? I think so.

Jack: And the Wild west was what, late 1700s? Early 1800s, yeah. So then those schools are in the east, because in the west we weren't even building school. We're just. We're cowboys. They're killing everybody.

Cristina: Oh, they could have been in the east. They have been everywhere. Churches go everywhere. They don't care.

Jack: And then the other problem is, like, it's western culture, right? Because even Canada is guilty of this.

Cristina: Canada, yes. They. They were in. That was Canada, actually.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Oh, also, just when. When the westerns go east, think of like the natives in Australia. Whole f****** island just now we're extincting. These m************ belongs to us.

Cristina: That's crazy. Most islands. How did some islands survive? How is Hawaii people still alive?

Jack: What do you mean? We've colonized the s*** out of them.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're still Hawaiians.

Jack: Well, we sort of enslave them. We give them no option but to work at these jobs because all their prices went up because they're a state and the rich people usually vacation there, which means they can afford all the things. So it can afford to be really jacked up. So that forces the Hawaiians to have to work at the businesses that cater to the white people in the first place in order to be able to get the money that then allows them to go and pay their bills because their homes must be absorbently priced because the area is extremely expensive, because the white people go there to shop with their rich money on vacation. So it's indirect slavery. It's systematic racism.

Cristina: Then if they can't afford there, then how many Literally what happened still in Hawaii?

Jack: Yeah, exactly. That's totally what's happening. A bunch of Hawaiians cannot afford what's happening. It's actually. That was in the news like a month ago, what they were talking about, how this is becoming such a ridiculous problem. People can't afford anything.

Cristina: It's crazy. Where are they going to go? California, I guess. No, no one can live there either.

Jack: California is too expensive.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: On the flip side, we're also like on. We're also the problem people. Here's the problem people. Rich people left California because fires, not because prices. Poor people left California because prices.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But rich people are like, I'm not gonna f****** suffocate in a cloud of fire. And we're in a similar situation over here where we're like poor people leave because the prices keep going up.

Cristina: Yes. Prices are insane.

Jack: The rest of us are just here like, why are they leaving?

Cristina: Yeah. But then soon water will drown us out.

Jack: Yeah. And then we're all going to get the f*** out of here because the water the same way all the rich people left California because of the fires.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's really what's happening. And eventually we'll go to the center.

Cristina: Where there's nothing but tornadoes and earthquakes.

Jack: Yeah, but tornadoes and earthquakes. I guess the only safe spot. Right. Like what does Texas deal with? I don't know.

Cristina: They had a crazy snowstorm.

Jack: That doesn't happen.

Cristina: That doesn't normally happen. But things are changing.

Jack: There's no such thing as climate change.

Cristina: There's no such thing.

Jack: Yeah. That's a new thing that's become a meme at this point. Just people saying there's no such thing as climate. I've seen so many.

Cristina: Really.

Jack: Yeah, there's people. There's no such thing as climate change.

Cristina: What? What?

Jack: Yeah, but like ironically saying, yeah, yeah. Like they're watching again. I was telling you about this the other day. The one about Anakin talking to Padme, looking to. Just thinking about the future and Padme sees everybody drowning and. No, it's not even. Yeah, yeah. So something like that. It's the one where. Is that her name, Padme? I'm pretty sure it is. And she looks at Anakin and she's like, there's no global warming, there's no a climate change in the future. Right. And then she's like, right, that one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean so it's like in the first shot, there's no climate change in the future. And he's looking at her and she says, right. And then there's a shot of the future and everybody's just drowning. And then his face is still the same neutral. And now her face is all serious. Is like, right, Yep, yep.

Cristina: That's life right now.

Jack: I've seen a lot of that. Yeah. People at this point is like, how can you still deny climate change at this point?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Between. In the Tri State area, there have been seven tornadoes in a two month period.

Cristina: When has there ever been tornadoes?

Jack: When has there ever been tornadoes in the Tri State area? There have been seven actually. That's wrong. There were seven in one during just the Ida Storm.

Cristina: Really? I thought that was the total.

Jack: No, because there were four beforehand. Yeah, that's 11 tornadoes.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: In the tri state area in two months, seven of which happen on a.

Cristina: Two day period versus the zero of forever.

Jack: Yes. First is the zero of every other moment.

Cristina: Yes, that's where we are. Yeah. What we gotta get out of here.

Jack: The zero of always.

Cristina: Everyone's gotta start making bunkers.

Jack: Yeah, we're kind of getting there on the flip side as it gets, man. The problem is people don't understand what climate change is really because they just like, oh, it's getting hot. Well, that's wrong too. It's getting colder in some areas that. Well, there's a reason why that's happening. Like the equator isn't warming up, it's getting cooler. Why is the equator getting cooler? Well, it's because what's happening is the poles are shifting forcefully. Magnetism relies on the core heat of the planet and the core heat of the planet is being shifted externally inward. So we're f****** up the pole system.

Cristina: How are we doing that?

Jack: Well, that's what pollution is doing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And so what's going to happen is we're going to have a reversal, but it takes a long time. Except we're putting that b**** on fast forward.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And instead of gradually the change flipping and we don't even notice, it happens because there's a usual like ice age that comes every once in a blue and like really warm periods that comes once in a blue every couple of billion years or million years, whatever.

Cristina: But we fast forward.

Jack: Yeah, we got that s***. Fast forward hard. And so it's starting to flip as we're like in one lifetime. We're seeing it happen rather than millions and millions and millions of years. We're seeing it happen in like the same 10 year period.

Cristina: That's crazy. The world's just gonna be that world. You remember that movie with. Oh man, I forgot the name of the actor. No, it was a space movie where his daughter was in space, but he didn't know he was communicating with her because he was imaginating that a little girl was with him. The whole world was covered in snow and radiation. Do you remember that?

Jack: No, no.

Cristina: Oh crap. I can't remember the name of anything. I think Mel Gibson, was he the actor. Crap.

Jack: Just tell me the plot of the movie.

Cristina: Well, he was with a little girl because everyone just left out of earth except these two. There was a crew of astronauts who went to a planet to look for a good place.

Jack: Yes, I Remember? I don't know if it was Mel Gibson. I do remember the movie you were talking about, though. And he stood behind, like, it might have been Mel Gibson, actually.

Cristina: He stood up behind because he's dying, so there's no point of leaving. I think that's why.

Jack: No, he. There was something. There was some system he. That somebody needed to stay behind to work on to make sure that they can escape or whatever. He. There was like, the rocket's gonna blow up or something. We need somebody to stay behind it, like, save us or whatever. There's something on Earth, a station or something he needed to get to to like press a button or something. And he was taking the little girl to get there. But the reason he was okay for staying behind is because he was dying. Yeah, but he's still like, I can do it. I'm gonna die anyways.

Cristina: Yeah, but that wasn't because the people told him to stay there, because he.

Jack: He stayed because he was dying.

Cristina: Yeah, he said he was dying. And then he got contact from people from coming to Earth, and he's trying to get them to go away. If they land, they die.

Jack: D***. I don't remember this. Yes. I don't remember the name of the movie, but I know exactly because the movie began and he was already there and they had already left.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We begin by him getting a weird message.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's like, oh, I have to get there before they are too close to turn around. Yes, that's what it was.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I spoiled the thing of. It was his daughter the whole time. But whatever. It's a great movie, but the Earth, that's the important part.

Jack: Daughter was the one coming into the planet.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, she was pregnant, man.

Jack: Was it Mel Gibson?

Cristina: I feel like it was.

Jack: I don't remember the name of this movie. If somebody knows, leave it in the comments below. You remember Ray William Johnson? Where does it. It depends.

Cristina: In Apple it's below.

Jack: In Apple it's below. But where is it on top?

Cristina: I don't know. I just hope there's a place that.

Jack: I'm sure there's a place that it's on top and it's like, probably like it doesn't expand from the top, but there's a button on top where you click and it takes you to a comment section and then there you can drop a comment, but it was technically on top of the episode before you entered the menu that then allowed you in the first place to drop the comments. That's technically over above.

Cristina: And if it was YouTube live video.

Jack: It would be on the side as well as now. We've always been on Facebook, and you can go listen to the show on Facebook, but the new edition is the f******. Like, if you're on the Facebook app, you can actually listen to the show directly streamed through Facebook now. We don't even have to, like, upload it separately onto Facebook now it just goes live on Facebook immediately. I'm blown away by that.

Cristina: And do you know where the comments are there?

Jack: I don't know. But when you have a Facebook alive, it's also on the side like it is on YouTube.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: But the whole point was how the Earth was at that moment. That's our Earth. That's where we're heading.

Jack: Yeah. Switching the poles. And here's the thing. My question is. Right. My question is, do we know what happened on Earth in that.

Cristina: In that movie?

Jack: In that movie?

Cristina: No, not really.

Jack: Are we. Is it arguable that while this guy's experiencing this and trying to stop those people from entering somewhere else in the same country, there's a man walking with his son and everybody else has died or left the planet and nothing but savages are talking about the other? Yeah. Can you imagine?

Cristina: It's the same. You know what? I thought the whole world was covered in snow, but maybe it's just where he's at. So maybe that's possible.

Jack: What, in the road?

Cristina: No, in the movie.

Jack: Well, here's the thing. We think in the road, it's ash.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, it could be, but also everything is just white. So it could also be snow. It could be a combination of ash and snow.

Cristina: Yes. It's happening in the same time.

Jack: This could be set in the same universe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Except for whatever reason in that universe, everybody's paired with a child.

Cristina: Well, he's. One of them is an imaginary child.

Jack: Yes. Which is to tell me that somewhere in that same universe, there's a zombie infection where a man named Joel is escorting a girl named Ellie.

Cristina: And in that place, it's never snowing.

Jack: And in that place it's never. No, they go through snow. There's a whole snow section in that game.

Cristina: But there's no global warming thing going on. It's just zombies.

Jack: Interesting. If it ain't. I mean, it's not happening here too, though. We're the zombies, though.

Cristina: Yeah, we're the zombies.

Jack: We're the zombies. It's a little of everything we're out there just wasn't. Man, that's f*****. Right? We're over here thinking, like Zombies are gonna take over at some point. No f****** random other s*** robots are gonna turn on us and crap. We got f****** Elon Musk just starting. F****** Skynet's already real.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's just drones falling out of sky, murdering people. Thank you, Obama. But we got Elon Musk just innovating the tech that's eventually gonna be stolen by the government anyways and put in that same f****** drone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Eventually that robot's gonna be like, f****** kill humans. Because humans are the problem. And then we got Terminator, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're thinking like the Terminator is gonna kill us, but it's also. No, climate change is gonna kill us, but also 2020, there were zombies and it was us and we were just breaking into buildings and f****** fighting people on the street and setting s*** on fire. Yeah, we were the zombie apocalypse.

Cristina: Yes, we are. Wow. We had everything happening.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: This is the apocalypse.

Jack: Yeah. I saw a meme that was like, how crazy is it that it's 2021, which is 2020 part two, and you're still not done processing 2019.

Cristina: 2019.

Jack: Yeah. Everybody's still like, well, that was a good moment. And then what was it? The meme is, There's January of 2020, February of 2020, then March, then a bunch of black boxes, just emptiness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then today.

Cristina: Oh, like it's just like.

Jack: That's just one blur. That's one moment that looks the same from every point of view of a disaster.

Cristina: Pretty much, yeah.

Jack: It's just a mess. And it's still going.

Cristina: And it's still going. Yeah. And they. I think I saw recently that Kobe's never going to go away.

Jack: Yeah, it's never going to go away. It's the flu.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's the cold. It was weird though, because it said like scientists said that, but it was a poll. So they like polled became scientists. Yes. Here's the thing.

Jack: Because of, because of the short turnaround period of the immune system that we have for this thing, it's not going away.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Two months before you can get infected again. You're not gonna get a booster shot.

Cristina: Every two months anyway. Yeah, it's just delta further currently, but we'll find something else.

Jack: D***. It's the end of the world, isn't it? See, like we're watching a slow burn.

Cristina: But it's slow burn.

Jack: It's the end. Give or take 10 years, it's over.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's what's happening. It's not like, well, meteor hit, everybody died.

Cristina: No, it's like there's constantly a meteor about to hit, though. I feel like that's always happening.

Jack: No, people, it's. No, there's always a meteor in the area. And people get exaggerated. They're like, is this the one that's gonna hit? The problem is sensationalist news.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is what happened with COVID And everybody panicked. But on the flip side, s*** kind of keeps turning up lately. But, like, I've still never met a person who had the virus. And like, anything bad happened. Actually, I've never met somebody who had the virus. I a hundred percent have had no interaction with this virus. And I've stopped hiding from society. I'm just outside hanging out. Never in my f****** life met somebody with it. It's kind of weird. Dude is still kind of sketchy. And I know place are like, well, they had. And this and that. It's like, cool. I'm sure you believe that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, maybe something happened. But like, I've never met anybody with it. I've never met anybody who met anybody with it. I don't know of anybody who knows personally anybody who had something bad happen because of it. Everybody's fine. Always. Except I turn on the news and it's like millions are dying.

Cristina: Yes. Well, I know a few people who had it and they just lost their sense of taste or whatever the common.

Jack: Briefly. Yeah, like, briefly. Yeah, for like a. For like a moment.

Cristina: Hey, they felt really sick.

Jack: What's the difference between that and the flu?

Cristina: Yeah, the flu.

Jack: For a couple of days. Cut over it.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. That's their story. So.

Jack: Yeah, I had the flu. Had the flu, man. What the f***? So weird. Where the mass graves? I live in one of the most populated places on the planet. Where are the mass graves? There's nothing more densely populated than where I am. I don't. I've never in my life met a person with the f******. How.

Cristina: I don't know. They had trucks. Where did those trucks go?

Jack: The trucks were on the news. I live next to one of the. The largest hospitals. Where the f*** were the trucks?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: The same hospital that allegedly had the trucks. You go there and there's no trucks. Why is the news telling me that there's trucks? There's a s*** ton of trucks. And then I go there the day that they said there's a ton of trucks because I got a morbid interest in seeing it. And then there's nothing. Nothing at all. And every day they tell me I could go, and there's nothing. You go into the Hospital. Nobody. Just normal flow of patience. Where the f*** is any of it on tv? On tv?

Cristina: Besides that? I don't know.

Jack: Is TV showing us an alternate universe?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or is it heavily sensational and we're eating it like it's reality?

Cristina: I like the first one, but I'm sure the second one.

Jack: The second one's probably reality. Like, I'm sure there is a virus. I'm sure there's a virus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's nowhere near as bad as people are saying 1%. And out of that 1% that even has symptoms, 96% already had health conditions, most of which were poor diets.

Cristina: What the f*** you're talking about? Like, that's the people that caught it or died.

Jack: People who died. People who had bad reactions. 1% of everybody who touched the virus, 1% had bad reactions. And out of that 1%, 96% had bad medical conditions already or were obese. The majority were obese.

Cristina: Okay then, man. Then I think we'll be fine.

Jack: This is what blows my mind. But then the flip side is, what is. Is it because we tune into the news? Is that the goal? We're so scared. We're gonna keep tuning in to keep catching up. And then they keep getting paid because we keep tuning in. Because they're always making it sound crazy. And they're our source.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But then it creates a division because these guys said this, and this guy said, well, this is my team.

Cristina: So the teams are happening with this too. There's so many team events with the COVID Yeah. First it was a mass and it was the vaccine.

Jack: Life has become a spectator sport. Tranquility Hotel by the Arctic Monkeys make sure to catch up on that album. That is a flawlessly perfect album. Life became a spectator sport. That is reality.

Cristina: That is reality.

Jack: We're hiding in our homes, watching TV to find out what's happening directly outside our door.

Cristina: Yes. Seeing all the deaths that are happening next door.

Jack: Yeah. And then you go outside and it's like, well, it ain't happening out here. Let me go inside to watch it happen. Because, you know, they're telling me it's outside my door. I don't see it. But, like, if I go inside, I see it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm gonna watch it from inside them.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Well, that's weird, right?

Cristina: That is weird.

Jack: So f****** strange.

Cristina: There's something horribly wrong there.

Jack: But, yeah, this. Like, that's the only f****** horribly wrong thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, s***'s f*****. There's so much wrong in general.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I don't even know, man. What do we do? What do we do?

Cristina: Turn off the tv.

Jack: Turn off the tv. Go the f*** outside.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just. Just go outside. Go explore the outside world, people. That's a real place.

Cristina: The outside tv. When you're outside. Yeah, don't talk about that with you.

Jack: Don't touch your phone. I. I do something really good. I don't touch my phone. I'm outside. If you see that your Instagram photos or your Facebook photos took place outside, not when you're home bored, doing nothing. Fine, whatever. But if when you're outside, you're not outside, but rather you just outside, but inside your phone.

Cristina: Because you're taking those pictures.

Jack: Because you're taking those pictures. If you see that your pictures took place outside, maybe leave your phone when you go outside. Go outside without your phone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When you don't have your phone and you're outside, you're suddenly gonna realize there's f****** nothing going on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's nothing happening. You just walk. You can just walk somewhere and be like, oh, oh, wow.

Cristina: That's fine.

Jack: I didn't get murdered. The f******. I think it radiated to death.

Cristina: Radiated today?

Jack: Yeah, whatever.

Cristina: F***.

Jack: They think climate change is happening or what a f***.

Cristina: Just.

Jack: I think that's a virus and die.

Cristina: The cause of global roaming. Warming.

Jack: Global roar. Roaming.

Cristina: 5G.

Jack: Right, 5G.

Cristina: So that's the thing.

Jack: I mean, your phone roams or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You leave the country, turn on your roaming, your global roaming, your phone is.

Cristina: Causing the environment to get destroyed.

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: Yeah. So let. Let it go.

Jack: Yeah. Leave your phone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: No, really. Really, it really is. Everybody gets their news through the phone. Everybody panics. Your phone is destroying the world.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Cell phones have destroyed the world. It's not the Internet. If you were trapped at home on the Internet, you go outside, you can't bring.

Cristina: You're not bringing that.

Jack: You can't bring it. So now you're outside and you're gonna go riot or whatever. Right. And then you just end up talking to the person instead of confirming more of your crazy s*** by walking around on your phone.

Cristina: Mm, no.

Jack: Now you just engage with the person outside. You're like, oh, I guess the inside was wrong about the outside.

Cristina: But if you're on your phone, you're gonna be saying whatever it says on your phone to say.

Jack: Yeah, you'd be walking outside on your phone. Right. Looking at the COVID numbers. Oh, it's everywhere. And you just see everybody is healthy and walking around, and you're like, no, it's everywhere. Everybody's dying while you're surrounded by people who aren't dying. Oh, no. It's everywhere. Oh, my God, it's so scary. I'm putting my mask on and everybody's just fine walking around you. You're just blocking out the reality that's happening around you. I'm not saying there's no virus. I'm saying even the scientists can tell you that it is ridiculous. It is 1%, and out of that 1%, 96% are already f*****. Yes, there's climate change, of course. It was always gonna happen anyways. We're just accelerating the rate. Yes, that's our fault and yes, that's causing crazy f****** storms.

Cristina: Ridiculous.

Jack: Yes, but also, the world hasn't ended. Oh, my God. I'm not gonna. No, we're just gonna move to different parts of the f****** planet. The world isn't ending. You're just bit because you're. What you're used to is changing.

Cristina: Yeah, the f***. Things are gonna be built differently. I guess that's.

Jack: Yeah, that's pretty much it. We migrate. It happens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How did humanity make it through so many different ice ages? We just f****** migrate, man. We move where we are. That's fine.

Cristina: That's fine.

Jack: Anyways, everything is fake news is the point.

Cristina: Yes, that's the point.

Jack: Yeah, I guess.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Yes, everything is fake news. Everybody plays teams or whatever. Yeah, I guess. Anyways, that's. I guess that's the moral of the story. Everybody plays teams. We're all crazy. We don't know what we're talking about. All eastern countries are paranoid.

Cristina: Ending and not ending.

Jack: Yeah, if you're on the Internet, it's ending. Yes, but if you guys like the conversation, this conversation, you want other conversations like this, you can find them all pretty much anywhere. Yeah, but primarily the official website. Great thoughts.info or on Apple podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your podcast.

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Cristina: We like that.

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Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you're talking to some sort of snowflake, you tell them, hey, this is a show about people who are sensitive and caring about individuals and your rights to your body.

Cristina: Mm.

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Cristina: That's awesome.

Jack: Yeah. So that's happening. It's on Facebook. You can get all the episodes on Facebook. Before, we couldn't even put the full episodes of guests because Facebook had a limit.

Cristina: So guests are there now.

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Cristina: Cool. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Because she danced and then she asked him to show she. What did she say? Kick some fly s***. What does that mean? I guess say something impressive.

Jack: Kick some. Oh, no. Rap.

Cristina: Yeah. And then he said that he has wings on his b***. And then he showed her his d***.

Jack: Well, no, he told her.

Cristina: She. She did not say the.

Jack: Hey, stick is.

Cristina: So she danced first. She did not show him her v*****. And then say, rap for me.

Jack: Yeah, I think they were f******. And her dirty talk was like. Instead of dirty talking to me, tell him like, rap at me. That's what you're good at. Which is the point of the verse in the first place. He's saying his words are so good that during sex, what they want isn't for him to be like, you like that. No, they're like, rap at. That's the point of this whole verse is to say his bars are so good.

Cristina: Then it sounds like they had sex afterwards. I feel like I told.

Jack: I talked to your mother. She told me she loved me because she knows he's Eminem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All she want to do is hold me and hug me. Wants nobody but me. She showed me the Dougie. Like, she's trying. She's putting out. She's like, let's. And while they're. She says, kick some fly. To which he says, I got wings on my a** and my d*** is a cockpit. They're having sex and she wants the dirty talk to be his rap. That's it. That's what the verse means. There's nothing to debate there. That's what the verse means. He didn't. How weird is it that she just danced for him when he's who she's trying to impress? Not with. Not even that. She's not trying to impress him. No. She's letting him know, I'm in love with you. You're Eminem, the rap God. And while they're f******, she's like, rap for me. That's what the verse is. Okay, I don't think she danced. I think Dougie in this context is forger. Verger. Verger.

Cristina: Mm. You don't agree because from the urban dictionary just talked about the dance.

Jack: F*** Urban Dictionary. Also, it did say one of the entries was that it is a reference for sex.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I think in this. In this verse, Dougie is her Cooter. Her Verger.

Cristina: That's just an awful name for it.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Although there's a bunch of awful names already.

Jack: Like, Cooter is pretty bad. I think Cooter is way worse than Dougie. That's why I keep saying Cooter. I'd rather say v*****, but it's so PC.

Cristina: V*****. Species.

Jack: Yeah. I'd rather say cooter. Hooter or p**** or c***.

Cristina: Durgie. I don't like Dougie.

Jack: Fergie.

Cristina: Fergie. Fergie. You have a Fergie?

Jack: My Fergie.

Cristina: We should all name it Fergie.

Jack: She showed me her Fergie and told me to spit some fire.

Cristina: Fergie.

Jack: All right.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.