Rambling 159: Biden Stops the Holocaust

Is the Moon made of cheese? Is Biden worse than Hitler? Did Hitler even do anything wrong? What the hell is the Holocaust anyway? And why don’t we call it The Milking Way Galaxy instead? The Duo unpack the Second World War and the time-traveling that lead to it in the first place, along the way learning the truth about our galaxy and more. What we learn about Biden, Trump and Hitler in this episode will change how we all look at WWII!

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Topics Discussed

  • Things More Important than the Holocaust
  • What is Real?
  • Cheese Moon
  • Cosmic Cow
  • The Milking Way Galaxy
  • That Time Hitler Saved Earth
  • Hitler the Hero
  • The Third Rake and the Grass Cult
  • Hitler is Trump’s Fault
  • Is Biden Worse than Hitler?
  • Time Travel Paradoxes
  • Trump’s Time Travel
  • Cheese Gas

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

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Cristina: Are you sure about that?

Jack: I am absolute. Can you imagine just stuck there the whole time? The whole time, just like. I'm not even aware. I'm like, can you. Whoever play anybody who already listens to an episode at half speed? That was the longest introduction they have ever heard.

Cristina: Who listens to it in half speed? What monster does that look?

Jack: I don't know who, but some people listen to it at two times speed. So I'm assuming there has to be at least one guy out there doing it at half.

Cristina: I might have done that before.

Jack: I don't know. This is, you know, two times as long, twice the awesome.

Cristina: Oh, I guess so. Yeah. I guess that works.

Jack: Unless you could only speed it up.

Cristina: Unless you can know. I bet there. There has to be a slowdown option. There has to.

Jack: But what value would that provide?

Cristina: I don't. If you can't understand what they're saying.

Jack: Maybe like if they already speak too fast.

Cristina: Yeah. To slow them down.

Jack: Interesting. There are moments that I believe maybe I speak absolutely too fast and it makes sense for somebody to slow the episode down so that they can catch the things that I'm saying more effectively.

Cristina: But then if they listen to me, they have to speed it back to normal.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So it's a. It's a game of back and forth.

Jack: Here's the problem we do. They have. If they're listening to this show, it has to be left alone. Right. Because if you go too fast, you cannot hear me.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you go too slow, you never finish a sentence.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it just needs to. They need to take the hit. There's no solution unless you're ignoring one of us.

Cristina: Oh, they should do that. They should just play one once. Like play it twice. One speed fast and one slow.

Jack: Or. Or. And this will take a lot of work, but anybody who wants to do it, feel free. Where they take the episode and they duplicate it and then they slow one down and they speed the other one up and then merge the two conversations so that I'm in the slowed down version and you're in the sped up version to see if we're speaking more or less at the same speed.

Cristina: That is too much work. I don't know.

Jack: But if they wanted to have, like, a fully balanced out episode, that might be the way to go.

Cristina: Ye.

Jack: They want us to sound the same because we're definitely two savagely different energy levels.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, we are.

Jack: Which, fair enough, is sort of the taste people get. Right. Anybody who's in here for the long run, they've become adjusted to me essentially being some sort of maniacal maniac and you just being very tame and grounded. And they're here for it.

Cristina: They better be.

Jack: Yeah. In fact, they're. I would argue our audience is a little divided. Some people think I am particularly entertaining, and some people think you are particularly grounded, and they think I am holding you hostage.

Cristina: Holding me hostage? Mm.

Jack: Which is an interesting idea, right? That I would be holding you hostage because that means you don't want to be here.

Cristina: That's crazy. I feel like I'm the wrong person to hold hostage. You should be holding Dave hostage or something.

Jack: Dave. That'd be interesting.

Cristina: Why would it be me of all people?

Jack: Why not? You are quite the intellectual individual, and we sit here and have very profound conversations, and you have a knack for poking holes in things that don't make sense, forcing them to make sense again. We're here to ground humanity's most absurd and dangerous, baffling ideas.

Cristina: That's what I'm here for.

Jack: Yeah, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways. That's what we are, man. Yes, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways.

Cristina: I want to be the childish way.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You don't get to be.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: But anyways, talking about hostages and whatnot, how about that Holocaust, eh?

Cristina: The Holocaust, eh? The one that happened yesterday.

Jack: The Holocaust that happened yesterday? Yeah. You heard about the Holocaust on the news? Crazy stuff, right?

Cristina: Crazy. I haven't heard about it. What happened?

Jack: What happened? Oh, man. You're about to be blown away by what happened. I'm about to blow your mind. It's gonna be great. Okay, so the Holocaust. You have no idea what the Holocaust is, right?

Cristina: I was born yesterday.

Jack: You were born. To be fair. To be entirely fair, we were kind of born maybe three years ago.

Cristina: Yes, I was Born three. Okay. Yeah. So like, did this happen before three years ago?

Jack: It didn't. It did. It did. It did happen before three years ago. All right, so for starters, the Holocaust was a day we'll always remember. One of the most impactful days of ever. Of ever.

Cristina: Of ever.

Jack: Not really. There's probably way more impactful s*** that happened before humans like giant f****** meteors we have no records of Just dinosaurs.

Cristina: Existing, I feel like is pretty.

Jack: That's pretty epic. I think dinosaurs going totally extinct to more impactful than Holocaust.

Cristina: This being alive is insane. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Just the fact of life is kind of astounding.

Cristina: No dinosaurs existing, that being a real thing. Unless people are questioning whether that's.

Jack: Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you the list of things that matter way more than the Holocaust could ever. Just as a. As just setting the grounds for how inappropriate this episode is gonna be. I'll begin by listing how insignificant the Holocaust is as compared to other things.

Cristina: Okay, fair. We should. You should also name things that are less impactful than the Holocaust as well.

Jack: Okay. Perfect.

Cristina: Okay. Perfect balance.

Jack: So balance. You're totally right. You're totally right. Just so that people stop raging on the other side. So we're gonna start bad and then end kind. That's the way to, you know, ease them off. So things that are. This should definitely concern us way more than the Holocaust. Like if we had to choose what information to know and we had to forget one forever. Like in this scenario, the Holocaust is the one we would forget.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: First, f****** dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, f*** Holocaust. Dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Second, what killed the dinosaurs? Like, we couldn't stop that now if it came again.

Cristina: Yes. Like, f***. F***.

Jack: The Holocaust. Yes. Seven million. Look, eight billion numerical differences.

Cristina: Ah, okay.

Jack: You know, and however many f****** dinosaurs went extinct.

Cristina: Yeah. How much?

Jack: There had to be way more than there are people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They were everywhere. We're only in some places. And we're focused. Nevertheless, they were focused and everywhere.

Cristina: Interesting. Yeah.

Jack: Who knows the true genocide? You know, the true genocide. We're talking about small stuff.

Cristina: That was the first genocide, I guess. Yeah.

Jack: Something else totally way more astounding than the Holocaust and more impactful and meaningful. The fact that life happened at all in any context. Just like, hey, you can perceive.

Cristina: Whoa, whoa, you're alive.

Jack: You can perceive the Holocaust. Whoa. If you couldn't perceive, Holocaust never happened. So technically, Holocaust is dependent entirely on the fact that you can perceive first. Otherwise never happened.

Cristina: Yes. Are there people? Oh, man. There are people who are. Don't say. I mean, that. Do say the Holocaust didn't happen, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Is it because they're not perceived? Because in their reality it doesn't. Is it possible they're living different realities?

Jack: That's an interesting question. And it's completely possible. Physics doesn't say that. It's not that the perception of the individual is entirely based on their neurological input and output and that we filter most of reality as it is. And if your brain just so decided to filter out certain aspects, they would simply not exist to you. And that people who honestly, truly believe a Holocaust didn't happen. It's like you having a best friend. Your best friend being like, I'm going to Antarctica. And your best friend goes. And they're like, but my phone isn't gonna work out there. And I'm gonna be out there for three years, and then I'm gonna come back and say hi to you. And so they leave and die. Second day. But in your universe, your friend is still alive for three years until you find out in three years he's been dead.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: You're just under the impression that. Well, he told me he wouldn't be able to communicate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that same logic of your perspective of what's happening is as true to you as him being totally dead is to anybody who.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Is the same idea behind, like, the Holocaust deniers or a denier of anything. Oh, Earth is flat. Well, if you honestly, truly, unquestionably believe the Earth is flat, that's no different than somebody believing the same of the Earth is round. Because neither side proves s*** when it's relying on scientists. The other is relying on whatever f*** source, but they didn't go out and prove it themselves.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's faith. So none of us ever saw the Holocaust. We didn't see the Holocaust. We didn't see s*** happen. Those people are all f****** dead.

Cristina: They are dead.

Jack: So then the question is, I mean, both sides. The ones who died first and the ones who died later.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But that being said, I never witnessed it to tell you factually it happened. But either. Also, neither did the people who are denying saying it never did. We're all essentially just believing what we've been told.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: So they're as right as we are.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: That's f*****. Right? Because in reality, like, I couldn't prove to you happened. Oh, but there's so many videos and this and that. Yeah. But I can watch some guy tell me about how it never happened, and here's a video of proof, like what the f*** can I do about that? And go out and do the homework and see anybody massacre a bunch of people in gas chambers or anything like I see any of it also. Yes, because according to this narrative we're establishing right now, you have no knowledge of what the Holocaust is. They were gassed. But we'll get there.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We'll get there. Who's gassed, you ask?

Cristina: We'll get there. Okay, not to. It wasn't the dinosaurs.

Jack: It wasn't the dinosaurs. And we'll totally disregard the fact that you're fully aware of Holocaust deniers before that was mentioned. But.

Cristina: Well, I do know because they're around right now, so of course I would know about that.

Jack: Interesting. You're right. You're right. Same thing as, like, flat Earthers and stuff. That's current thing.

Cristina: And dinosaur deniers.

Jack: Yes, that is surprisingly a thing too, even though that. That one is in abundance. That's a weird one to deny, considering you can actually go see.

Cristina: And the moon. The people who deny the moon. The moon is a ship, is illusion.

Jack: Here's. Here's what's interesting about that one, right? Because. Okay, the moon landing, like, whatever, dude, I wasn't there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Maybe haven't married, you know, I don't know. Whatever. My ongoing theory is we lied about it and then did land and then just claimed the first one was because if we go up there, we see a flag and everything is up there. Right? Yeah, but it's like, well, we were kind of rushing and kind of consistently lying about random s***, so who knows? So it made sense that we would lie about that just to be number one or whatever. F*** we do.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But yeah, so that part, whatever, about it being a f****** ship, mean it could be made out of f****** cheese, bro. I haven't stood on the f****** moon. I don't know. I mean, I have stood on the moon, but, like, you get my point.

Cristina: But there's no way. Cheese.

Jack: Who the. How would you know? Like, if you've never explored. Let's ignore us two and anyone we are in contact with. Yeah, but if you're a normal, boring person, see, and you've never been to space, anything you believe is faith.

Cristina: Mmm. Okay.

Jack: You've not seen it. You're just taking some. It's all religion. So you're like, the moon is made out of rock. Like, everything else in space looks like. Okay. You have to believe that and have faith that that's the truth.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But somebody's like, yeah, it's f****** cheese and it's like, well, that's impossible. Who says? Based on what is. Does cheese exist? Can cheese happen in the universe? Yeah, can.

Cristina: But not by itself like that. Or can it?

Jack: I don't know. Maybe there's some cosmic f****** cow. Oh, no, it doesn't even have to be a cow. It could be any cosmic milk having. Like, do we. Simple questions that could lead us back, and then we'll get back to Hitler real quick. Do we know the right. Totally no idea. But Hitler, World War II, all related. Not to mention the fact that we've had Hitler talked about on this show many times.

Cristina: That was a past me.

Jack: Fair enough. Totally brainwashed. Not brainwashed. All your memories, deja vu, specifically of World War II erased.

Cristina: Yes. I was in a accident yesterday, playing with a portal, just jumping in and out.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Your memories got caught on one side.

Cristina: Yeah, totally.

Jack: Only. And you only forgot World War II.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which just so happened to be what we're talking about.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Perfect. I forgot the f*** I was even talking about.

Cristina: Oh, it doesn't have to be cows.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like, if we assume the. We just need to agree on a couple of things in order to make the moon cheese. Right. So first, do we agree as above, so below?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Everything is equal at all scales. It just repeats, just bigger or smaller. Everything is fractalized. So it's just a repetition of the patterns. Infinitely connected from the previous patterns.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we assume that an atom has electrons and protons orbiting it to some degree, even if not exactly the same. And that, you know, nucleus in a cell with all the elements surrounding that and brain and heart crap surrounding that. And a planet surrounding a star. Star surrounding black holes. So we assume everything is consistent.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Lettuce is fractalized. Broccoli is fractalized. Trees are fractalized. Lightning bolts are fractalized. Everything's fractalized. Nature is fractalized.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So it's safe to assume that everything repeats at every scale and in some cosmic way that we don't comprehend because it's too large for us to grasp. There is some sort of cosmic cow that was cosmically milked by whatever ended up creating our universe. And not even our universe, just our region of space. And although the Milky Way, the milk. It's not just the Milky Way, it's. We probably got it wrong. We were probably talking to gods and somebody was like, hey, man, what do you call this thing you overpower? And not like our crappy demigods who just run the world, but, like the gods who run the galaxies, you know? Those monsters, which is arguable. That just a fun idea. Jehovah and Zeus are stuck in their regions. But like, the Cat People own all of the Great Void.

Cristina: Yes. Wait, did they call? Wait, no. The Great Void is a way far away from us. That's far away.

Jack: I'm just pointing out the fact that the Cat People have way more reach.

Cristina: Yes. Than.

Jack: Than Jehovah, Zeus. Yeah, just pointing that out. They got little read. They got country.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Then there might be people over here. Unless it was the Cat People.

Jack: I don't know. Point being. Okay, when we asked what the name was, they probably told us the Milking Way. And we're like the Milky Way. Yeah, it makes sense. And we named the candy bar after and everything. But it was the Milking Way. We're just a giant farm and the moon is a giant ball of cheese by whatever cosmic cow or other creature was milked.

Cristina: Yeah. It could be anything.

Jack: But we are in the Milking Way.

Cristina: Yeah. Interesting.

Jack: So you see, it's totally possible that the moon is made out of cheese. It's about as likely as anything else we haven't proven. And again, we've been there. But like, if you're not us, what's your reference point? Yes, but somebody told you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like, whatever somebody says made of cheese. Yeah. I believe them.

Cristina: Yeah, why not? Okay.

Jack: What's the difference between that and it's f****** made out of space dust?

Cristina: I don't know. Yeah.

Jack: Isn't cheese made out of space dust?

Cristina: Technically, I guess. Like, what the f***, you know, cheese is made out of space dust because.

Jack: Everything is made out of space dust. It's arguable that all the things required to make cheese exist in atomic form on the moon, if the moon itself isn't made of cheese. So there's at least the parts necessary to create cheese on the moon.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: You know, it is what it is. And allegedly the moon is made out of the same material the Earth is. So all the same atoms are present, they're just arranged differently. Moon is in theory, cheese.

Cristina: In theory.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And it's cheese now.

Jack: Pretty substantially arguable theory. Nevertheless. Anyways, so other important events, you know, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, death, life in general, discovery of fire, making meat better.

Cristina: Is that. That's better.

Jack: That's way more important.

Cristina: More important. Yes.

Jack: That's one of the things that allowed us to become the monsters that caused the holocaust in the first place. Without. That could never happen.

Cristina: We're just never happened.

Jack: Without the wheel.

Cristina: Without the wheel.

Jack: The wheel. The wheel was an important one.

Cristina: That was important.

Jack: A lot of vehicles used in carrying a bunch of people to places where they'd cease to exist.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: So, okay, we'll end the list of things more important. Although there are way many more things.

Cristina: Like a scientist. Can we put them in there?

Jack: Because most scientists, like Einstein for sure. Like kind of all the prominent scientists are way more important than the holocaust as a whole. Like we wouldn't be anywhere without them. Also, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened without them.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: You know, like it literally wouldn't have happened. They are more prominent than the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh my gosh, think about that.

Jack: Yeah, that's crazy. Gas chambers weren't even used, were even intended for that. I believe they're gonna be for something else. And then, hey, repurposed.

Cristina: Was it gonna be some type of torture thing? Like.

Jack: No, I think it was gonna be for some other purpose. It was some. I don't remember the story exactly, but yeah, most of crap use there was scientists being super genius and then it being repurposed by some crazy other f****** scientists.

Cristina: That's how science do now.

Jack: Things less important than the Holocaust. Peanut butter.

Cristina: Are you sure? Yeah, pretty sure.

Jack: Like peanut butter or no peanut butter. Like Holocaust still happens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like it doesn't really change our lives. Great. Whatever. Peanut butter. I don't really like. I don't prefer peanut butter. You know, pizza out there, people like peanut butter.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Something. Man. It's crazy because I can think of way more like, iPhone is way more important than the Holocaust. It's way more important, the Holocaust because the iPhone assures us the Holocaust could never happen again. You know, it's way more important than the holocaust. Then again, the United States has its ways, so who the f*** knows? There's enough empty land.

Cristina: And I'm sure global warming, I think more prominent.

Jack: That's more important. We're trying to talk about things that aren't.

Cristina: Oh yeah, the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. Like robots.

Jack: No, those matter a lot. The problem is like let's be remote. Like at the time that was important. Like it was way serious at the time. Yeah, but like right now, global warming could extinct to everybody.

Cristina: How about the war on terrorism? That has to be less important.

Jack: The war on terrorism less important. I mean, it's arguable, right? Depends how many terrorists there are and how many people collectively the terrorists of killed has the war on. I guess the war on terrorists would be weaker than terrorists as a whole.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But no, if we're actually stopping them, that Is. I guess it depends on how effective that war is. If it's effective, it's way more prominent.

Cristina: Because if we killed more civilians than terrorists, does that matter?

Jack: I don't know. Are there. Did the terrorists kill more civilians and Hitler did? And in that case, are the civilians we killed just f****** bad byproduct casualties that we accept?

Cristina: What if we killed more civilians than the terrorists did?

Jack: Then obviously in that situation. But, like, chances are we've probably killed people who've collectively killed more people than Hitler, thus making, like, even if individually not one of them has a record of 7 million people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Like, maybe enough of them together do.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And if that's the case, then definitely war on terror over the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. So just way more things that matter way more than the Holocaust.

Cristina: But it's important.

Jack: It's an important event. It was him. It was way the most important thing at the time. Well, it wasn't because still dinosaurs and the. You know, it was just very impactful.

Cristina: In the moment.

Jack: Yeah. In the moment. It was just everywhere. There was nothing you could do to avoid it. And it was the scariest thing to have ever existed. Unless the Holocaust is happening and you look up and a dinosaur extinction level event meteor is coming. And then you're like, f*** the Jews, because this s*** is way more important. You're like, hitler, please help us stop the f****** rock.

Cristina: You think he'd stop killing the Jews, though, if.

Jack: Because he's about to die too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He'll be all in, and we'll let it slide. We're like, you're gonna save the Earth. We'll forgive everything you've done. Yeah. You killed 7 million, but you save. Well, how many people we have at that point? Six billion. Like, the trade off is huge.

Cristina: We can't kill anymore. I'm guessing would also be.

Jack: I mean, I'm assuming afterwards, it's like, if you take a single more life, we have to execute you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, you already have a crazy record. We can't have no proof that you're starting this all over.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. And then it'll be, yes, I guess.

Jack: So it's like, then no.

Cristina: World War II.

Jack: Yeah. So arguably, the dinosaur meteor coming for a second time.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Could in theory, turn Hitler into a good guy that helps us stop because he has the ability to convince people of things, and he unites the world under him to help fight this one meteor. The new. The new evil.

Cristina: The new evil that we need to.

Jack: We're gonna gas that rock, Gas that Rock out of here. He's gonna figure it out. You know, we're just gonna get the people who know how to figure it out. Gonna get the people who are gonna figure that out.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Okay. So there's way more things that matter more than things that don't. But that doesn't stop the historical significance of World War II.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Aka the Holocaust.

Cristina: Aka the Holocaust.

Jack: Yeah. I am gonna stick to the fact that those two are the same event. I get now after your explanation before we began, that they're two different events. That they're two different events happen at the same time. They happen at the same time. Even if you have no idea what the Holocaust is and all your memory's gone about it, you had enough lucidity for a split second to explain that to me and retain it, to reiterate it right now. But since you have no clue what.

Cristina: The Holocaust, that's how I know that I don't. That's what. Like, that's the biggest evidence that it's not the same thing. I don't know the Holocaust, but I do know World War II because I recently learned about World War II, but not the Holocaust.

Jack: Interesting. So you. So you have no idea what the Holocaust is, but you're fully informed on World War II?

Cristina: You know iffy about World War II. Okay.

Jack: Iffy.

Cristina: Yes. I know people were at war, and it was a lot of people. So you know a lot of countries. Like 30. Yeah, probably more than 30.

Jack: So, yeah, it's very interesting to be fully informed on World War II and have no.

Cristina: So this Holocaust thing.

Jack: But. So the Holocaust, amazingly enough, is what caused World War II. Yeah, yeah. So the reason everybody was fighting in the first place is because some Jew hater named Adolf Hitler.

Cristina: I think I've heard that guy. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a hero to many.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. Is it weird if I just leave it. Is it weird if I just leave it there and I don't point out. But he was a monster to. More.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If I'm just like, he was a hero to many and just keep strong.

Cristina: A hero to who, though?

Jack: To the Germans. To the German N***. The First Reich.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The First Reich was his collective of people who were like, he's. He's the good guy.

Cristina: Are there more than one Reichsman?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Are there?

Cristina: I don't know, because I think I've.

Jack: Heard, like, oh, no, he's not the First Reich. He's the Third Reich.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, you're totally right. He's the Third Reich. So There are two other Reichs. One, I have no idea what a Reich is.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Second, he's the third of the Reichs.

Cristina: So there might be more.

Jack: There might be more Reichs. Who knows? Maybe all three Reichs were his. Maybe he collects Reichs. I don't know what Reichs are they like rakes. Is it a kind of rake? Does he just. Did he decide. We love rakes and we're the third rake. But it's German for rake. And like we say rake, but they say Reich. They're like with the Third Reich and it's like we all use rakes. They love raking their lawn.

Cristina: The first rake is the stick rake. Then there's the machine version of a rake. And then there's the human version, I guess, which is them.

Jack: But no, all those are used by people. The argument would be dark joke warning ahead for people sensitive about the Holocaust or World War II, since they're not the same event. But if the first one is the broom looking thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the second one is some sort of machine that you can drive, presumably, and rakes the leaves while you're on it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: De escalation would be whatever's the next huge thing that can easily get rid of a lot of leaves, which would probably be an incinerator of some sort. So if they're calling themselves the third rake, maybe they were talking about the furnaces also. They were furnaces. That's primarily what the Holocaust was about.

Cristina: Furnaces.

Jack: Yeah. About shooting Jews in the back of the head, sometimes in the front of the head, and murdering their children and forcing them to do slave work for prolonged periods of time and pushing them into. Or having them gently walk into furnaces where they would burn alive and. And also gassing them after you told them that they were gonna get to take a shower for the first time in like three months.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's without counting the ones that were just thrown on top of the graves of many others and just buried alive with them. Good times. That's it. You know, the Nazis and they're good times. That's how they play this game.

Cristina: That's horrible. That's all horrible. Anyways, eventually, this is how much they love grass, though.

Jack: This is how much they love grass. They ran out of grass and they're like, people throw people in there.

Cristina: This is insane.

Jack: Yeah. I can't believe that all this happened because they loved rake so much.

Cristina: They loved it so much they decided to use it on people.

Jack: They over invested. They over Invested. Right. So you buy a rake and you don't use rake. Well, it was 20 bucks, whatever. But if you bought like the second rake, and you know it's the size of like a riding lawnmower when you drive around, but it's meant to collect leaves. But you did all your leaves, and you did it so fast. It took like a minute or leaves stop falling. It got so hot, winter stopped coming. And you know, so now you just have this machine that you want to use it, though. You invested.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you got to use it. You start doing other people's lawns for free.

Cristina: You murder your neighbors to do their lawns?

Jack: No, no, no. You just do their lawns. When we get to the third rake, that's when it gets kind of weird. Because it's like about a building, bro. To throw all the leaves in, but, like, no more leaves. We did all the leaves. It's a building, bro. It's a big weird. We bought like 30 of them.

Cristina: You think that you started with animals first? Like, we got a lot of wild dogs. It's problem.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, probably just cleaning random s*** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they were like, well, I'll clean that one. F*** it. Let's just grab those people, clean them up too.

Cristina: Yeah. Sorrow. Okay.

Jack: I mean, there is. There is some people who believe, like I said, he's a hero to some. And it's weird if I just walk away from that sentence right there. He's a hero to some. But there are people who think Hitler did nothing wrong. That is.

Cristina: That is their argument.

Jack: That is a state. Yes. What more. What more proof do you need?

Cristina: Because Hitler just wanted Germany great again.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: After World War I, it was probably really left horribly shambles. He was like, we gotta make Germany what it was before World War I. We got to make it great again.

Jack: Yeah. Make Germany great again. And he. He protested that he even had a. An uprising on January 6th a couple of months ago. Like a year ago or so. Where he from today? The White House.

Cristina: He's alive?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Isn't that who attacked the White House?

Cristina: They do say he's still alive. So I guess that makes sense.

Jack: That makes total sense.

Cristina: But how's he still alive?

Jack: Why wouldn't he. He froze himself. Obviously.

Cristina: He froze himself. Can we prove that that technology.

Jack: We proved that exists. I specifically remember having an episode in.

Cristina: Which I feel like we disproved that the technology works.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Do you think it works?

Jack: Explain how anybody who f****** listens to this regularly. What's the narrative on this? I don't f****** remember, is it?

Cristina: Well, we know that Jesus couldn't have used that technology. I guess that's what we proved.

Jack: Yes, Jesus could. No, but I'm pretty sure we proved that. For what the h*** was it for? It was to preserve something.

Cristina: I don't know. I just remember one episode, it was about Jesus, because I was wondering how he came back alive, and I was like, that's maybe one of the ways you were like, nah, man.

Jack: Interesting, Interesting. I don't know. Well, let's assume that at least he had it and he froze himself in cryostasis and then got unfrozen recently. And that's why we have Trump.

Cristina: Are you saying he is Trump?

Jack: No, no, no. I'm saying Trump is his disciple. If nobody here has seen the Messiah, watch it, because I'm about to make hella references to that. And you need to understand him, which is basically the guy who El Mac the manifesto, or at least we thought it was that way and that Alma C. Was doing his work. But it turned out Emma C. Wrote the book that that guy was following.

Cristina: Yes. He got the ideas from the student. The teacher got the idea from the student.

Jack: Yes. And then he wrote the book, and people thought the kid was the one who was following the teacher, but it was the other way around.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So Trump somehow sent his ideas back in time, caused World War II. Oh, and that's why he's gonna fight Biden on top of the White House. Boom. So that he doesn't send it out. That's gonna happen. Hasn't happened yet. Biden is trying to stop the Holocaust.

Cristina: That is so crazy. That makes sense.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense.

Cristina: So Donald Trump wrote something, sent it to the past, and then those leaders from the past took it. Because it wasn't just Germany talking about, let's make German.

Jack: There was a lot of people, someone.

Cristina: In Italy was doing the same thing who's like, World War I happened. And they were like, we gotta make Italy as it was before World War I.

Jack: We gotta make it illegal.

Cristina: Exactly. It was the same speech, but with different people, different countries.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: So they all just happen to be.

Jack: It's like the news cycle right now. Right? Like, you could put every news station next to each other and they're repeating the same line for line thing. Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Oh, my gosh. It's the same thing.

Jack: Yeah, it's the same thing. 100.

Cristina: So it was Trump all along.

Jack: It was Trump all along. And Biden's actively trying to stop the.

Cristina: Does he know time travel Is involved Biden? I hope not.

Jack: Oh, no. Biden has no clue.

Cristina: Okay, good.

Jack: It'd be weird if Biden can go back and unmolest all the people who he's molested. That's a problem. So we need to arrest him after he stops Trump.

Cristina: Okay, who has he molested?

Jack: Many, many. And all the blacks in jail are his fault.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So. So they're both pretty bad, but we kind of got to let one stop the other.

Cristina: Okay, so we need him to save the day anyway, even though there's a bunch of crimes against him.

Jack: Yeah. But it comes back to the whole, if Hitler stop. Helped us stop the meteor, it's the same thing. Are we gonna stop him from helping us? Yeah, we're probably gonna let him.

Cristina: Okay, so we're gonna let Biden do his thing with Trump, and then if he lives, we'll punish him.

Jack: I don't. I don't know if. Here's the question. Would we let. Because we are arguing that Biden is way less bad than Hitler. Right. If we can forgive Hitler after.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. As long as he doesn't repeat himself. Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: If Biden doesn't do anything bad after, he's okay.

Jack: Exactly. If Hitler, after killing 7 million people, helped to stop the meteor that was gonna destroy all of Earth.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We gotta at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, you saved, like, a lot of people.

Cristina: Yeah. One more death and you're done.

Jack: But you managed to straightaway. We'll ignore the 7 million you killed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Same thing for Biden. Yes. There's some kids f***** up walking around. They're probably serial killers or some s***. Probably molesting people of their own. You probably start some crazy domino effect of people molesting people who molest people forever. And that cycle will never break because they just think it's normal. Or they'll blow their brains out before they get to molest anybody else. And I'm not sure whether that's better or worse. Whatever.

Cristina: It's all pretty horrible.

Jack: All pretty bad. But, like, if you stop the Holocaust, Is he in stopping the Holocaust? Right. Just scaling here for the sake of introspection and analysis, but if God d*** this episode. If Biden were to stop the Holocaust, is that as good as Adolf Hitler stopping the meteor? Like, because, like, all right, Biden, his atrocities. Right. Harm how many people? Totally lives taken.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: People have committed suicide or decisions he's made as a politician that had led to people dying. Right. Would we say less than a thousand people?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. So then him stopping the Holocaust is impressive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What percentage of 7 million is about a thousand, though when you do the difference, is Hitler doing more good by saving 6 billion when he only killed.

Cristina: 7 million, is he doing more good?

Jack: Yes. Is. Is. Is the comparison here making Hitler better than Biden by total effect? Assuming Hitler stops the meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And.

Jack: And Biden stops the Holocaust. Yeah. No longer kills people, but somehow. Somehow in an alternate universe, Biden stops the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So is Biden because he saved way less people. Like how many times you multiply a thousand to get to 7 million?

Cristina: But he's also stopping the Holocaust. So those people Hitler killed counts towards Biden as well because he's saving those people or.

Jack: No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So he killed a thousand. But how many times can we multiply a thousand before we get to 7 million? And do we multiply it less times than 7 million to get to 6 billion? If that's the case, then in stopping the Holocaust, Biden has successfully done less good than Hitler stopping the meteor.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because we're talking all of humanity. But again, it could just be. I have no idea what the numbers are, but if we multiplied. In fact, let's find out right now who is. Who is less evil in one of these scenarios. Oh, s***. Oh, s***. Okay, okay, explain. So we're gonna start at how many people Biden. Okay. So, you know, we just ran the numbers, we did the math. So we're not gonna count all the things Biden did. There's too many. And a lot of them lead to mass incarcerations, which led to a lot of deaths in and outside of prison. Cops looking for more reasons to arrest people. Biden gave him that reason. More people died, shot by police, on top of the fact that Biden, it was against gay marriage, which then had a boom in the gay suicides of the 90s. And this is just a plethora of s***. But the one thing that his vote could have swerved in the opposite direction was the Iraq war that he was for and the Iraq war that he did not oppose led to 460,000 deaths.

Cristina: That doesn't sound so bad.

Jack: That's a crazy bad number. And if he were to go back in time to stop the Holocaust, which is 11 million people, all you have to do is divide the 11 million people by the number of people Biden is responsible for killing, which is 460,000, which gives you 23 people saved per life he took. That's beautiful. He's net positive he's in right now.

Cristina: Yeah. If he does stop the Holocaust, he saves.

Jack: He redeems himself. He totally redeems himself.

Cristina: Factually, yes.

Jack: But we know. So does Hitler.

Cristina: Oh. Piece of the meteor.

Jack: Because the meteor. The question is, how better or worse is Hitler to Biden's 23 people saved per life taken. Okay, in the case of Hitler, we have to do the total number of.

Cristina: People that exist in that time.

Jack: Well, the number of people he was responsible for killing, which is the same number that we divided by Biden's deaths. Except now that's the number we'll be dividing by because it's the number of people that Hitler killed.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: By the total number of people who were alive at that time, which was 2,300,000,000. And when you divide 2,300,000,000 by 11,000,000, you get 209 lives saved per life taken. In conclusion, if Hitler stops the meteor, even if Biden stops the Holocaust, Hitler is still a better person than Biden.

Cristina: Interesting. Because he's saving more people.

Jack: Because he's saving more people. So we've found the scenario in which Hitler's the good guy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Over some other person who people like right now.

Cristina: Well, one event is going to happen, and one event is not going to happen.

Jack: Yes. The Holocaust is going to cease to exist, thus stopping Hitler from ever being being a bad guy in the first place and never taking a single life. Thus, by default, making him still better than Biden.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It doesn't matter how this plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler's a better person than Biden is what we've learned.

Cristina: Because Hitler did nothing.

Jack: He either did nothing or he saved more people.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: In any scenario, Hitler is better than Biden.

Cristina: Wow. That is crazy. Whatever, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. There's no winning. Biden is evil.

Cristina: Yeah. Even though he's going to save the.

Jack: World, even though he's gonna save 7 million people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He still can't make up for the fact that he is still responsible for 400 and what? 450. 430 deaths of his own. 60. 460 deaths of his own. Doesn't matter that the collective total is. He saved 23 lives per. Because Hitler didn't kill anybody.

Cristina: Because he stopped Hitler from going. Okay.

Jack: On the flip side, if Hitler did, in fact, stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's why we got. We allowed him to go into cryostasis. Then Biden stopping Hitler will extinct humanity. Because Hitler won't be around to stop the meteor because he won't have the power of the third Reich.

Cristina: Oh my gosh. It's really. You see, time travel is confusing. It's always confusing. Time travel fair.

Jack: And this is Trump's fault.

Cristina: This is Trump's fault.

Jack: This is Trump's fault. He's gonna send this message back, Cause Hitler to rise to power. Hitler is gonna kill 7 million people and then he's gonna stop. But the 7 million people died anyways. Biden gets a hold of the fact that Trump did this and he's gonna stop Trump before he gets to do it, thus stopping the Holocaust. But the meteor is gonna kill us, thus stopping Biden from ever stopping the thing. It's impossible. It resets.

Cristina: Resets. So it's gonna happen no matter what though. Yeah.

Jack: Biden can't stop the Holocaust because it would stop the meteor. Yes, but it would. It couldn't. It could never. Because it would loop back to it happening all over again.

Cristina: Yeah, but it's gonna still be an interesting fight to watch.

Jack: Yeah, except he by default has to lose. The outcome is he has to lose, otherwise the fight can never happen because there is no Earth.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. So he's gonna lose. But we shouldn't be spoiling that to people. What if people are betting on this? Then again, this is on our world, not theirs.

Jack: Yeah. I have no idea what's happening in.

Cristina: Universe on this stuff. Yeah, that's good.

Jack: I mean, they could in theory bet on the show, I guess, on our newscast of it or whatever f*** is happening.

Cristina: Yeah, but if he wins, then what happens? Like would we even know he couldn't win?

Jack: Yeah, like what would happen if he wins? No. Hitler rises to power. Hitler with no power can't stop the meteor if the meteor hits and the fight never happens, so he never stops the message being sent that then allows him to come into power. So if he stops him, then he can't stop him.

Cristina: How do we make sure that he can't stop him? Do we have to help Trump then?

Jack: No, no, he can't.

Cristina: He can't.

Jack: He could never. Because the fight is only happening because he already lost.

Cristina: Oh, okay, I see.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz had he succeeded, none of this would have happened. Yeah, we'd all be dead.

Cristina: We'd all be dead. Yep. Oh, okay.

Jack: That's the problem here. Right?

Cristina: So he time travel.

Jack: Yeah, he failed already. We know he failed because it's happening.

Cristina: Yes. Alright, I'll make sense again. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. F****** time travel, man.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: Yeah. So now you're caught up on what A World War II is to some degree. Furnaces, rakes, you Know the works.

Cristina: Yes. Someone who likes raking a little too much.

Jack: Someone likes raking a little too much. And took it to the next extreme.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's probably has to do. It's miscommunication because it was obviously Trump just talking about how to comb his hair. Right.

Cristina: Because it did all star at Trump.

Jack: Yeah. Because he's sending a message of like, man, that guy had a slick back thing going on.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And I can send them how. How I make my slick back work.

Cristina: Oh, my God. And then he's writing in English.

Jack: And he's writing in English. He wrote rake.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it's like modern English.

Cristina: So it's not even English from back then.

Jack: Yes. He wrote probably like comb or something. I'mma comb my hair. And he's like, oh, comb, rake. Yeah, I get it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm like, yeah, brushing the grass. I know what he's talking about. I love brushing my grass. You know what? I'mma innovate society around grass and leaves. Cleanest grass, no leaves.

Cristina: So this was all due to miscommunication.

Jack: Yes. Because Trump just wanted him to have nice hair like Trump does.

Cristina: Ah, makes sense. Makes sense.

Jack: He wanted the hairdo that Hitler has to match his flag. The way that Trump's hair on some of those memes is the American eagle.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You know what meme I'm talking about? No, you know what meme I'm talking about?

Cristina: The American eagle.

Jack: Yeah. Trump's hair is the American eagle. You see? You see how that amazing America hairdo.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Is placed on this man's head. That's all Trump wanted Hitler to do, and he sent that message. But Trump, you know, he. He only has the best words to talk to idiots. He doesn't have the best words to speak to a highly advanced scholar. So he tried his best with his very good words for dumb people to convey an important message to smart people.

Cristina: About how he should do his hair.

Jack: About how he should do his hair. But his words on a scale are quite bad.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So, you know, N*** Germany happened.

Cristina: Ah, it all makes sense.

Jack: Don't make sense. All cause time travel, of course.

Cristina: History, man. Of course.

Jack: But it's gonna happen anyways because we can't stop it.

Cristina: Cuz we're here because we're here. Yes. So Biden's gonna lose.

Jack: Yeah. We kind of need the Holocaust to happen so that we can get rid of the meteor.

Cristina: That's definitely going to happen with the meteor. Yeah.

Jack: Well, we stopped.

Cristina: Definitely did happen.

Jack: Well, we stopped the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because the Holocaust happened.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And Hitler had enough resources and power to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It is what it is. We don't make the rules.

Cristina: Nope. We.

Jack: Some people and I began the episode with this. To some people, Hitler is a hero.

Cristina: The people that know this truth, the.

Jack: People that know the truth that Hitler stopped the meteor thanks to Trump.

Cristina: Well, not really thanks to Trump.

Jack: Had nothing to do with Trump. I mean, kind of. He only came to power because he confused the message of raking.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Became obsessed with rakes.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then created the greatest rake ever. But then turned on people because he needed to use the machines that rake.

Cristina: Technology to destroy the meteor.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. But, like, all of this is doom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The meteor stopped. Humanity exists today because Trump.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We'd all be dead if it weren't for Trump.

Cristina: Time traveling Trump and time travel save the day. Okay, 100% by accident, but.

Jack: Yeah, by accident. Totally by accident. But that just continues the story of Trump disclosing secrets at random and casually helping people without even knowing how he did it.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. That sound like Trump focused. This all sounds right.

Jack: Yeah. It's right up his alley.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Quite accurate, all things considered. It sounds exactly like something Trump would do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Say something that sounds kind of off and wrong and you're like, whatever, I'll respond to it later. Knowing you do. Somehow things got better.

Cristina: Whoa. Interesting.

Jack: Not to say the Holocaust was. Things. Was getting. Things getting better. But, like, what if we didn't have the Holocaust and the meteor did hit us?

Cristina: It has to be that situation.

Jack: It has to be that situation because that's how it plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So then kind of. I'm not saying Jews. What happened to Jews at that time was a good thing. It was horrible. It was absolutely awful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But perhaps necessary to stop the meteor. He needed the power in order to wield it and save the world.

Cristina: You don't think anyone else could have done that?

Jack: Not the way he. He was fighting the world and winning. He was fighting the world and winning. So that's the leader we needed to stop that meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And then he purposely lost the war because he stopped the meter.

Jack: Yeah, he stopped the meter. He's like, wars done. They said, if I don't kill anybody else. And I stopped the meteor, I'm good.

Cristina: Yes. And then he went to sleep.

Jack: He went to sleep. He immediately went to cryo stasis. And they're like, oh, my God, he killed himself. No, he. You saw him sleeping when he got brought out. You're like, oh, he's not moving.

Cristina: He has to be dead. He's.

Jack: Yeah, he has to be dead. No cryostasis.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Brought out. And he came back a couple of years ago to meet Trump for the first time.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: And then he told Trump, hey, I am a great strategist.

Cristina: So where's. Like, is he still around?

Jack: Other side of the wall. Oh, the ice wall.

Cristina: Ice wall.

Jack: Yeah. He went to chill with the big dogs out there with Tupac and Michael Jackson.

Cristina: They're outside of the wall.

Jack: Yeah. Anybody who's allegedly dead and got spotted comes back to visit once in a while, but is ultimately outside of the ice wall from the other side of. Flashlight. Earth.

Cristina: That's crazy. How are they all still alive? I feel like they should be old enough. Unless they all somehow.

Jack: We have the technology and. Or adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So they all probably just take an adrenaline.

Jack: It's probably just all adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's gonna get his hand full with adrenochrome. Okay. Let's see.

Jack: Yep, yep, yep. And Trump wants that adrenochrome too.

Cristina: You think he deserves it? Question mark?

Jack: I don't know. He saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If anybody deserves adrenochrome, it's true.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He saved everybody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean, he's also responsible for 7 million people dead, but he's responsible for 2.3 billion people alive.

Cristina: And it doesn't matter that both those deaths and aliveness are accidents.

Jack: Accidents. But thanks to him. Fair enough. Fair enough. He was just talking about his hair.

Cristina: He was just talking about his hair. Come on.

Jack: And so we can't attribute the good that happened to him intentionally or the bad. Yeah. It's mere chance. Just chance removed from it has nothing to do with him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler might have taken that to an extreme.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But the power was necessary in order to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it. Is Hitler a good guy because he saved the world, or is he a bad guy because he only saved the world as a means to not be punished for having killed many, many, many people?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, he did save the world.

Cristina: He did save the world, but he.

Jack: Also did opt in. He had.

Cristina: In, like, comic books. Does this situation ever happen where they team up with a bad guy and they'.

Jack: Oh, happens all the time, but it's not f****** Hitler.

Cristina: I know, but, like, what do they do? Do they arrest the bad guy afterwards, or are they, like, you can go for now. Just don't do anything wrong.

Jack: The question is, is Hitler in saving as many people as he did, even if, like, he had no option? Right. So it's like, you're gonna lose even if you don't lose. We kill you either way. Yeah, but you stop the meteor, we let you slide. Right? So in that scenario, he had no option but to help. Had he had the option to help and they're like, well, you, you could let us all die, it's fine. Either or you're going with us, whatever. Would he gone out of his way to save the world, to keep himself alive? Or is he like, humanity must live? Or did he care about his people? He's like, well, there's 4 million or there's 11 million I killed, but there's 22 million. I gotta make sure stay alive, you know? Like, what's the math he's in. Is it a choice or does he feel. Feel obligated?

Cristina: Too many questions.

Jack: Yeah. Like he. Did he have a revelation? He's like, oh, wow, I can't let everybody die. What about the 22 million who believe in me?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They depend on me.

Cristina: I feel like we need a time travel to find out.

Jack: Yeah, but we're gonna f*** something up.

Cristina: Yeah, we can't time travel. But man, there are so many questions though.

Jack: We can quantum computer that b****, though.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay.

Jack: That's what we could do. We could find out. We could add the variables we need that are necessary to figure out the truth.

Cristina: The truth of whether he really, really, really is a good guy or a bad guy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was definitely a bad guy.

Cristina: Yes. But like, but what was he thinking about when he was saving the world?

Jack: Exactly. Did he stop being a bad guy?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or was it like, this is for me?

Cristina: Yes. There's so many. Like, what if in that moment he was a real good guy? Like, who knows?

Jack: And when he came to meet Trevor, did he think Trump was an idiot or is he like, I should follow this guy, huh?

Cristina: Because he did meet him. He did meet Trump, but that was after the book. So was he disappointed? I bet he was disappointed because you're not supposed to be your heroes.

Jack: I bet he was disappointed.

Cristina: Everything he thought the book was about was a lie.

Jack: Yeah, he realized everything.

Cristina: He based everything off of his life was a lie.

Jack: His life was bullshit.

Cristina: Yeah. So I guess that would have been a really disappointing moment.

Jack: He looks at Trump, he meets and Trump is like, I remember that thing. Yeah, here's the original. And I mean, I guess Trump wouldn't have the original. Well, actually, Hitler kept It. Since he was a kid.

Cristina: Trump gave it to him as a child.

Jack: Trump sent it back in time. He has no idea where it was going. He just wanted Hitler to have it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which is weird because he only found out. Oh, my God. Time travel. He only found out about Hitler because of what Hitler did.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So he sends back his hair thing because of how Hitler's hair was.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then Hitler confused it for.

Cristina: I feel like it still works because of the miscommunication. It doesn't break it. Like, this is a perfect loop, type of.

Jack: Yeah. But, like, where did it start?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's always that.

Jack: But because we can. Oh, man. I guess the same thing applies with, like, starting the Holocaust in the first place. Right. Because it's like he sent it back. It only happened because he sent it back. But he only sent it back because he knew about it.

Cristina: It.

Jack: So, like, the Holocaust exists in a loop of one piece of paper about here.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it does. Well, we're not gonna fix that problem. And we don't need to fix that problem.

Jack: We don't need to fix that problem because if we fix the problem, then we all die.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's fine.

Jack: We need the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah. That's horrible.

Jack: The conclusion of this episode is that the Holocaust is the best thing to happen to Earth.

Cristina: It's not. It's. The conclusion is that time travel is confusing.

Jack: Time travel is confusing, but it resulted in the Holocaust, which gave Hitler the power that then allowed us to stop the meteor that would have extinct humanity otherwise. So without Holocaust, no humans.

Cristina: Confusing.

Jack: Yep. You know, that's. I did not expect to learn the things I've learned today about. About our universe and how it works. But that's. We are where we are.

Cristina: Yeah, Hopefully. I wonder what it's like in universe 3. It can't be this crazy.

Jack: It's probably really boring.

Cristina: Yeah, please. Time travel wouldn't be a thing.

Jack: No. And they don't know anything.

Cristina: They don't know anything. I'm sure they don't know Hitler became in power.

Jack: They don't even know if that happened. Everything is faith over there.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: They don't even know if it happened. Yeah, we're talking about earlier. They're just going off of sorts. Well, they have no proof of anything. And even if they did, they question that.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm sure the term Holocaust denier over there. Some whole other s*** that's just like a movement of its own.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, we're over here like. Well, the Holocaust, factually, this and you know, it was important to save the world to some degree over there. It's like, what, Holocaust? You're sheeple. You're falling for it, man. It's like, is that worse?

Cristina: What?

Jack: I'm at least acknowledging it happened.

Cristina: Was it made out of cheese?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: What if. No, you can't use gas machine to make cheese, can you?

Jack: I don't know. That's. I guess it's theoretically possible. Right. Because gas is just the gaseous form of any kind of solid or liquid. I suppose. Right. So if you could compress it enough to create it to make it back to solid, the only question would be, how do you turn cheese into gas? Because then you could have cheese gas and compress that cheese gas back down to cheese.

Cristina: That's a lot of work. Okay.

Jack: Innovations, technology, advancements, the superior human intelligence will allow us to create cheese gas.

Cristina: What would that be? For? What use would that be?

Jack: To eat.

Cristina: To eat the gas.

Jack: To eat the cheese that came from the cheese gas.

Cristina: But if you have the cheese, why would you need the cheese gas to make the cheese?

Jack: Well, no, if you have the cheese, you don't need the cheese gas to make the cheese.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Presumably, the gas will turn into cheese. So if you don't have cheese, but you have cheese gas, you can make cheese out of the cheese gas, but you don't need the cheese gas. If you have cheese, why would you.

Cristina: Ever not have cheese but have the cheese gas?

Jack: Maybe you're trying to get into your plane and you're not allowed to bring food. So instead you bring an empty jar, and they just see a jar with yellowish gas in it, and they open. It smells like cheese, but there's no cheese inside. So you can let your weird jar thing can go in, whatever. Then you take your jar thing, but your jar is also a cheese gas compressor. So you take your seat on the plane and you hit a button and all the gas gets compressed. Boom. Cheese pops out of your jar. Now you have cheese you can eat on your flight.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: A scenario where cheese gas is beneficial.

Cristina: That is crazy.

Jack: But practical. Okay, in that scenario.

Cristina: In that scenario, I don't know, I feel like just sneaking some cheese is easier than cheese gas.

Jack: Well, if you remember, a couple of years ago, there was a weird wave happening around here where dancing became illegal for a certain amount of time, and.

Cristina: People happens every once in a while.

Jack: Every once in a while, dance becomes illegal, you know, and then there's two people fall in love and solve the problem or whatever. Hey, I come from ballet. I'm A street dancer. It's super legal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like how are we ever gonna work together? And then they go and win a competition, the world is saved or whatever f*** happens.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you remember that we know weird scenarios like that happen occasionally. They're really hyper specific for whatever reason.

Cristina: Like when people died from dancing.

Jack: People died from da. Exactly.

Cristina: I think that's why it was illegal for a little.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense. And I'm not sure why we didn't draw that connection before.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So was the name of the movie Step Up? Probably.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Step up or Dance to Me or some s*** like that.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: One of those films. That whole thing is due to the nuns dancing until they died. Oh, no, that's unrelated town.

Cristina: Yeah, there were dancing nuns too. I bet. But they were also meowing. But whatever. Okay. What are you talking about though?

Jack: Dancing, dancing. That's why in Step up everybody dancing was legal. Just because people died dancing. We know it's dangerous. We know dancing is dangerous.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's not legal to dance. Earth has banned dancing because deaths.

Cristina: Yeah, but now it's not legal anymore.

Jack: Isn't it?

Cristina: It was illegal, but then we saved. I mean, the couple that had the good dance move.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. And they saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But that was. I remember that was the harsh dance demic of the. Of the 20th century.

Cristina: What does it have to do with anything?

Jack: The dance Demic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where people were dying in mass because they were dancing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we had to outlaw it again.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Well, I'm just saying it was just crazy. It just reminds me of the crazy dance demic.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay.

Jack: The fact that we regularly have to outlaw dancing once in a while because.

Cristina: Every once in a while, because too.

Jack: Many people start dancing. Yeah. Too many people do it. People get reckless and they die.

Cristina: It's really. If anyone does anything and every. Like if a group forms around this one thing, it becomes a danger.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Which. Whether it's dancing or meowing or laughing or biting.

Jack: And then we gotta ban it.

Cristina: Yeah. Just for a little while until people calm down. Yeah.

Jack: That's how it goes. And that ultimately what the Holocaust is about. Now, you know you've learned about the Holocaust in this episode. Pure clarity. And as soon as this show is over and we wrap up, I'm gonna ask you to recite what you've learned today.

Cristina: I don't understand how rakes have to do comb raking.

Jack: Comb over comb. Two rake similarities. Something got lost in translation. Comb, rake. Okay, sure. Combination.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I combed the grass yeah.

Cristina: But did we make raking illegal after the Holocaust?

Jack: For a brief moment. That's why the lawns look like s*** for the next couple of years.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But then we were like, this doesn't make any f****** sense.

Cristina: As long as no one tries raking three.

Jack: Yeah. Don't know. Rake three. We banned rake three entirely. That's still illegal right now.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Rake three, Totally still illegal. Rake one and two. Totally fine. We see those everywhere. Yeah, totally fine.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: We've done two everywhere. Rake 3. You're getting excessive.

Cristina: Yes. No reason for the rake 3.

Jack: If you do have rake 3, it's going to be super monitored and you can only have one and it has to be industrial purposes only. And nobody's allowed to walk into your rake.

Cristina: Yeah, okay. Yes. That's. That's where we live right now. Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys enjoyed the facts we spoke about World War II and the Hollow Holocaust. There are many conversations in which we totally justify all of Hitler's actions and much more. Probably not. We probably don't justify it. There was an episode in which we definitely created Hitler and Friends show.

Cristina: That was you and Ryan.

Jack: Yeah, me and Ryan. So you can find that episode somewhere around here. But there's a bunch of other episodes in which Hitler's importance on the world and how he's either affected it negatively or positively, probably mostly negatively. You can find all that. All those lovely episodes with woke jacation. The real information. Don't get fake news to death. Get real news to death by us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You'll find all that on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. And in your review, tell us how much you love the information we give you and if you can, let us know you listened to this episode with a Hitler emojis.

Cristina: Is that a thing?

Jack: I don't know. But, like, why isn't it? Right?

Cristina: Or Holocaust emoji. What would that be?

Jack: It's a lot. A lot of people. What do you call that little hat that the Jewish people wear?

Cristina: I know what you're talking about.

Jack: Okay. It's that hat in a furnace.

Cristina: It's horrible. There's no way that they would make an emoji. I feel like Hitler emoji would be more likely to exist than by miles. The Holocaust emoji.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you have any of those, just use either in your review.

Cristina: Okay. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. All the Holocaust deniers, you know. Tell them the truth is out there and they're just living in ignorance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And if they want the truth, they need to listen to the Rambling Podcast, brought to you by the Just Conversation Podcast.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: No, I don't know. Because it comes from living things, right?

Jack: So do babies.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh, yes. I guess it's equal. Two babies.

Jack: Yeah. Poo and babies are the same thing.

Cristina: It's the same thing. They're made from you eating things.

Jack: Me? Oh, yeah, Totally.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: And also, this kind of confirms the fact that what happened in that south park episode is true.

Cristina: What south park episode?

Jack: Where the Pope gave birth to Bono by pooping him.

Cristina: Yep. I guess that proves poop is alive.

Jack: Poop is alive.

Cristina: I did not.

Jack: Raise it as your own.

Cristina: What? Wow. Who knew? Yep.

Jack: Poop is a living thing. Now we gotta fight for the rights of poop.

Cristina: That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Poo lives matter.

Cristina: And what are we gonna do with that?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What are you supposed to do with Pooh?

Jack: I don't know. But Pooh has rights.

Cristina: To what?

Jack: To live.

Cristina: They do live.

Jack: Until we kill them by drowning them.

Cristina: They live there. They become fish.

Jack: They don't become fish.

Cristina: We don't destroy them. They just move.

Jack: We let the plants eat them.

Cristina: Yeah, that's also good.

Jack: We don't put our babies in the ground.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Elin Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 123: Moon Conspiracies

Moon Conspiracy, Space, Just Conversation, Podcast, Podcasting, Podcaster, Podcasts, Theory, Science, Moon Landing, Aliens

Was the moon landing faked? Is the moon an intricate hologram designed to hide what’s truly in our skies? Conspiracy theories of the moon unpacked!

Story:
Having recently sent subhumans to investigate the moon due to recent cow abductions and the need to give listeners Stockholm Syndrome, the duo decides to unpack some of the conspiracy theories surrounding our floating space neighbor. In the process the shocking realization that some of these conspiracy theories are possible rises. What’s most shocking is which of these conspiracies has particularly strong evidence in its favor! Find out which on this episode of Just Conversation!

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Stockholm Syndrome
  • Cheese Moon
  • Hologram Moon
  • Illuminati Moon Base
  • Moon Aliens
  • Faked Moon Landing
  • Hollow Moon
  • City on the Moon
  • Advanced Moon Technology
  • Crrow7777
  • Unlisted Satellite
  • Secret Moon Research
  • Area 51
  • Government Secrets
  • Ringing Moon

Art Design by Zero Lupo ( https://instagram.com/zero_lupo )

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are release.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discussed.

Jack: Yes. So grab your gun.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Casually load it up with rounds outside, in public, in front of complete strangers, one by one, while smiling at them. Then you close that revolver and you start walking towards them and you say, hey, we're gonna watch. I guess you could watch, theoretically. You just have to, like, travel back in time and come watch us. If you have a time machine, you.

Cristina: Watch us, but otherwise watch us on YouTube. You could, but you're not really watching. Watching us, but it's there.

Jack: Yeah, you could, theoretically, I mean, watch a still image, but you can hear. We're gonna hear a show. We're gonna go hear a show called the Just Conversation Podcast. And when they're like, what the f***? Who the h*** are you? You're just gonna lift your. They already saw you with the gun, and you already pinned it to, like, your belt. You're just gonna lift your shirt up a little and you're gonna repeat.

Cristina: I thought he was already holding it.

Jack: No, he was holding it. He put it. He pinned it into his, like, belt. And then he walked up and he's like, hey. Because he made sure they saw him walk over with the gun, and then he put it there. And then he's like, we're going to go watch. We're going to go listen to a podcast. And the people are like, no. And then he lifts up the shirt just a little to remind them that he has a gun that he just loaded in front of them. He's like, we're going to go listen to a podcast.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that's how you're going to get a listening companion. By the end of the episode, you're going to have a new best friend that's going to want to listen every time.

Cristina: Mm, this sounds great.

Jack: Definitely. That's how it goes. Look, people get Stockholm Syndrome. You just gotta.

Cristina: It's just gonna lead to them having someone to listen for the rest of their lives. I guess. Like, this person is just gonna.

Jack: Yes, but also you're gonna get rid of them. After this episode. You could tell Them to go home.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah, you just needed them to hear one episode.

Cristina: Okay? The next episode.

Jack: Then you find a new listening partner. I feel like you don't know how the introduction of the show works. Why wouldn't it be the same person? How boring.

Cristina: I don't know. You said something about Stockholm syndrome.

Jack: Yeah, that's fine. They might not want to go after you forcefully put them in a situation in which they had to be there. But that sounds like personal problem. Okay, okay, like, bro, this is over. We do what we're gonna do. Go home.

Cristina: Oh, they might be too attached.

Jack: They might be too attached. But look, it sounds like a personal problem, okay? They're the crazy people at that point, that kind of individual, you can't trust them. Those are usually the freaking maniacs, right? Think of, like. Think of, like, flat earthers, right? They find another flat Earther, and they're immediately committed, and they're like, we're not gonna reinforce our beliefs with each other. That same emotional state is gonna f****** happen in this case. And they're just gonna be like, look, now. Now we're podcasting, and there's so much weird s*** in here. They're already the type of person who gets Stockholm syndrome. Then they're just gonna be the kind of person who's gonna believe all the crazy conspiracies and all the crazy s*** that we talk about on the show. They are now convinced they're converts to what?

Cristina: Many things that we like.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So many.

Jack: They're part of the clone army.

Cristina: They're part of the clone army.

Jack: That's what we call our fans, right? The clone army.

Cristina: We have a name for our fans.

Jack: No, they're just subhumans. Our fans. Yeah. We established this before, but we never say it. We got to say it all the time. There are. There are our listeners. Are the subhumans okay? Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Even though they're not the actual subhumans.

Jack: Even though they're not the actual subhumans. Yeah, we actually have subhumans, which we sent to the moon recently to prove that it was made of cheese.

Cristina: Is that.

Jack: Was that. There was a cheese castle or some s***?

Cristina: There's definitely a cheese castle.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Aliens who were obsessed with cheese, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. And that's why they steal the cows.

Cristina: I remember. Yes.

Jack: I remember. I remember one of those glorious conspiracy theories that was created by who the f*** knows what. That's kind of crazy when you think about it. Does somebody. I mean, I guess all the moon conspiracy theories are nuts, but, like, the Fact that there's one about cheese on the moon.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, whoa, dude.

Cristina: Ah, it looks similar to cheese. I can't believe someone actually believes that it's made out of cheese.

Jack: Do you think it's just like trolling? Like a troll conspiracy maybe?

Cristina: Like, you really think people there's like a real conspiracy that, man.

Jack: I wouldn't be surprised.

Cristina: The moon is made up cheese.

Jack: I wouldn't be surprised. I would. I would totally not put it past at least one person on earth. There's 7.5 billion people on this planet. One of them thinks the moon is made out of cheese.

Cristina: For real?

Jack: For real. Like, swears that that moon is made out of cheese. They probably can't explain how, but they're like, I also don't know how the sun works. So like, you know, they're rationalizing it and s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, I don't even know how the sun works. You tell me how air functions. So why can't the moon be made out of cheese? You know that logic instead of the freaking anti vaxxer logic. It's like, I don't get it. Therefore it must be wrong. Yeah. I don't understand physics. So it's wrong. Scientists are lying.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like, I'm sure that's not how anything works. Just because you don't f****** understand does not mean it is a lie. It kind of means you're stupid. Really?

Cristina: No. The Earth is flat and the moon is made out of cheese. These two things make sense together.

Jack: Not only that, not only is the earth flat and the moon made out of cheese, but the moon orbits in a circular motion around the edge of the disk with the sun opposite. Opposite the moon. I'm not entirely sure why the sun is opposite the moon on this f****** thing, but whatever. Maybe they do. Well, no, we see the moon and the sun together sometimes, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So do they believe that the moon or the sun moves faster than the other? Like the sun is the faster one that makes whole lapse every day while the moon doesn't.

Cristina: Yes, maybe. Or maybe they don't realize that happens.

Jack: And they're like, they're always opposite each other and when they see the moon in the sky, they're like, that's some other s***.

Cristina: Yes, yes, man.

Jack: Like, I'm not surprised. I wouldn't put it past anybody. You know, that's kind of how this goes. But like. All right, so a bunch of people believe a bunch of crazy s*** about the moon, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The most consistent one is the the moon landing was faked.

Cristina: Yeah. Because that's the most, like, that's all.

Jack: Anybody knows about the f****** moon. Yeah, the moon. Land people landed on the moon.

Cristina: That was the biggest event.

Jack: But look. Oh, God. Some of the f****** things they discuss are so stupid about that. Yeah. For example, the. The light contrast, the fact that you look up and there's no stars. The fact that they. They see the moon reflecting. This is the moon is really, really bright, but they don't see stars in.

Cristina: The sky like these in that photo or I read.

Jack: Not the photo in the photos and videos. And like, there's explanations behind all of this s***, but they're not gonna pay attention to any of it. They're really, really unbelievably fixated on it being fake. And even if you present them with all the evidence that says we can replicate the exact circumstances that answer any one of these things, well, if you.

Cristina: Replicate it, you just prove that you faked it because you just. Like, that's no. That what they think.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. I don't mean replicate it in a fake manner. I'm saying you can prove that these instances happen.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like that we can suppress the stars from the sky with a bright enough light in contrast to those stars, the suppressing them, things like that. And so they are, I don't know, people crazy. They want to believe what they want.

Cristina: To believe what was, like, the craziest thing they think of the moon. Or like what people think, like, the.

Jack: Craziest thing they think of the moon. I would say that the moon is a hologram.

Cristina: As a hologram.

Jack: That is crazy.

Cristina: That is pretty crazy.

Jack: Yeah. They think the Illuminati is doing it.

Cristina: And why are the Illuminati doing it?

Jack: Well, there's a multitude of reasons. I think the Illuminati is doing it primarily because they probably have a secret base that is on the moon for the elites who are part of the Illuminati to hang out because they're filthy rich and can afford going to the moon, which theoretically means they've been able to go to the moon for very, very long, maybe even longer than the moon.

Cristina: But it's not really a moon.

Jack: There is a moon up there.

Cristina: Oh, there is a moon.

Jack: In this scenario, there is actually a moon, but there's a hologram moon projected over the moon to hide the fact that the moon is its own civilization, essentially for elites.

Cristina: How does this.

Jack: This is no different hologram than flat earth. And over the ice wall that we're not allowed to cross, there being cities for elites. Okay, this is the we believe in science but they're lying to us version of we're crazy.

Cristina: Okay. But I don't understand. Like, there's cities under the hologram. How does this hologram work?

Jack: Hologram is. Well, we can't. The hologram is just projected onto the moon.

Cristina: Onto the moon?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's just so crazy. Okay, but like, if the people on the moon, when they look up, they just see the hologram of the moon.

Jack: The people on the moon?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No, the people on the moon just see Earth. The hologram is on them.

Cristina: It's on them. Okay.

Jack: Look at it like this. If you stand in front of a projector.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Looking back at the projector, you just see the light that's projecting the thing.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But if you turn around, you will see the thing, the thing being projected.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're on the side of the projector, seeing what's projected. They're on what's being projected. Just seeing where the projection is coming from.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. And not even necessarily seeing a giant light coming from the sky where Earth would be, because it doesn't actually need to be literally so. Exactly. On the moon. They're just probably obscuring a part of the sky, preventing anybody from seeing the moon.

Cristina: Okay. Are they also the ones like, there's something in the dark side of the moon, or is that a whole different thing?

Jack: That's a whole other thing that has to do with the Apollo moon landing.

Cristina: That's the new. How?

Jack: Well, they think that the reason we don't go back is because the moon landing was real. But when we landed on the moon, we found something. We found something. We found many somethings.

Cristina: Like, alien something.

Jack: Yeah. It ranges. There has been talks that they have found buildings, they have found technology, they have found a bunch of different things. And on the dark side of the moon, particular, like on the surface, where it's not the dark side where we could see, there were little things here and there. But on the opposite side, on the dark side, which isn't really dark because it gets lit all the time. We just don't see it happen. There were buildings, maybe even alien settlements, maybe even alien civilizations.

Cristina: But, like, the aliens are alive. Are they there right now or is like ancient stuff?

Jack: Like, don't know. None of that is clear. It could have been. I'm sure this variance. These in some cases are probably like, we saw aliens and they were like, don't come back. In other cases, like, there was abandoned cities. That means there's something out here that killed Them?

Cristina: Yeah, that could totally, you know, sounds so horror.

Jack: Like the xenomorph is just really hanging up on the moon and s***.

Cristina: Yeah, that would stop us from going back.

Jack: Yeah, it's nuts. Like the possibilities of a city on the moon on the dark side. How would be nuts? That'd be so crazy. That would be really cool.

Cristina: Yeah, but what about all these planets to go to the moon? Do they not matter? Would all of these theories just disappear?

Jack: Well, no. All you got to think about relative to that is who's going up to the moon.

Cristina: Oh, because it's going to be astronauts.

Jack: It's the same f****** people who are hiding the secret in the first place.

Cristina: What about when they have just regular people eventually are going to be able to at least go around the moon? I think.

Jack: Yeah. I would argue that they're going to one, make routes that don't go through the dark side. That's the far end of the moon. We're probably not going to circle around the moon. We're probably going to fly by the moon. Thus the courses in which the route that we travel is intentionally planned so that people don't see giant cities.

Cristina: Okay, but they would at least show us where the actual landing spots are. I mean that should be proof for that. One thing that people worry about, like, is that real? We could finally see it.

Jack: Well, here's what's interesting. Yes, that should totally be up there. There is a conspiracy about the moon landing that suggests that the moon landing did happen, but it didn't happen when we thought it happened.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it goes like this. The idea is that the Russians were getting too close technologically to actually be able to reach us there. And because we're f****** egotistic maniacs, we couldn't let that happen. We have to be there f****** first. Because we're, we're the best, America.

Jack: That sounds right. Right. So we were like, no, we gotta do it. But we couldn't. And so we saw that they're just a couple of days from launching some s*** that'll get up there.

Cristina: So we did it.

Jack: So we faked it.

Cristina: We faked it.

Jack: Okay, we faked it. But that's not to say the moon landing didn't happen. They just obscured the timelines. And it goes like this, right? So we go into a facility in which we recreate the conditions we expect to see. Einstein's theory of relativity is pretty spot on. The last bit was proven after we saw gravitational waves. He's been a hundred percent right about everything. He's Ever predicted. Meaning basing everything on that, we had a pretty accurate estimate of what was going to happen when we got up there. We knew how the gravity was going to work. We knew how everything was going to function.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: So we replicated what it would have been like to be up there, how the sky would look, how the. The moon's surface would look and all these things. And we did sort of a rehearsal landing where we land on the moon or whatever, but it's really a pool, the inside of a ginormous pool where we have the people.

Cristina: And we recorded that or something.

Jack: Yes. And we record that part and we digitally remove bubbles and crap like that. That's moving around in the water to enhance the moon effect. Now, everything that was done with all your scientists, you leave no room for error. You leave no room for chance. Everything is scripted to the T. Okay. So everything you were going to do on the moon, you had to rehearse anyways.

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: So that, you know, step by step, everything you were gonna do, how you were gonna do it, why you were gonna do it, every inch of everything had to be. You have to know how long you're on there. You have to move quickly. Don't waste feel no nothing. And so they replicate what was going to happen, and they record it and then air that. And it probably doesn't even air live. Like, they record the whole s*** first. They edit the whole thing and then they pretend it's live. They show it on tv. They make a big thing about it. Everybody's all excited. The Duke's mind blows out of his skull and he's like, whoa, these guys are my heroes.

Cristina: They're the manliest men in the world.

Jack: Yes. All of this and it didn't even happen. They were still planning to go to.

Cristina: The moon, and they eventually did.

Jack: Months to years later, they take the trip to the moon and do everything that was rehearsed. All of it. The flag is where it needs to be, the technology abandoned where it needs to be. Everything is where it needs to be. Because that was all part of the plan anyways, so that when people do travel through the moon, tourism and blah, blah, blah, they can land and see what was really there from the real moon landing, just not the one that they watched on tv. But it was identical. There's no difference other than it happened later.

Cristina: When it comes to the video, wouldn't people be able to know if it was edited in a special way?

Jack: People swear they think they can tell.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: That's consistently an argued thing. People look at the video all the time and they're like, look at this glitch and look at that glitch. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Cristina: Oh, but they do that with like the. The map of the world and stuff like that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Everybody's crazy. They do it with some s***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like the. The 911 bombing thing with the plane. It's like. Well, it looks like this from here. Looks like that from there was clearly edited.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah.

Jack: So it's like that's always f****** happening.

Cristina: That happens a lot. Okay. Yeah.

Jack: Literally everything.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: There's crap that isn't even conspiracy theories that people just start making, digging into videos and being like, I see discrepancies. It's.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Okay. And a lot of evil clouds. For some reason. It's either some type of bomb or you see the devil in the clouds.

Jack: Oh, my God. That happens all the time. Yes. Anytime anything happens, if there's a fire, I see the devil in the fire. Those are usually religious people.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Demons and.

Cristina: But yes, it's like one is a bomb or two evil clouds.

Jack: The other one is when the sky behaves a certain way. Like normal phenomena. That's just rare, I guess. Not normal, but phenomenon. That's just rare.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like the sky parts in a certain way and the God ray shoots from a specific direction and people are like, God is up there. Whatever. And it's like, man, that was just the clouds opening up in that one patch. Come on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like. No, you see, God is shining on a spot. There must be something important over that spot.

Cristina: It's always.

Jack: People need something to believe in, man. Whether it's a conspiracy theory or that God is aiming at like a grass patch or some.

Cristina: That's crazy. Has it. Have anyone seen Jesus on the moon yet?

Jack: Jesus on. I'm sure they have. There's some. There's so much weird s*** about the moon, man. People think the craziest thing about it, like the fact that the moon is hollow. People swear. People swear the moon is hollow.

Cristina: So there's a. Cities outside and it's hollow inside. Or the cities are actually inside this.

Jack: No, these are different conspiracies, okay? They're not all. It's not that the moon is hollow. There's a hologram on the moon landing whistle. Faked. But it did happen late. Like, it's not all. I mean, I guess it could be.

Cristina: Theoretically, someone could have thought all of these things are true at once.

Jack: They probably stitch it together in some manner, shape or form. To make it make sense.

Cristina: Yeah, like with the Illuminati things and all those conspiracy. There's a someone who connects every single event to that same one thing. Yeah, so it can happen with the moon.

Jack: Look, let's be real. We know the Illuminati doesn't do anything. We work for the Illuminati. We're here informing you. We wouldn't be telling you that the moon landing was fake. If it's real, we're telling you it's real. Of course I don't f****** know it's real. But I know that our bosses aren't responsible for anything. But there is definitely somebody out there trying to stitch everything. And based on how often we get blamed for everything, it. Like, if anybody was responsible, it would f****** be us. Right? Based on how often the Illuminati gets blamed.

Cristina: Yeah. So this probably has something to do with us.

Jack: It doesn't. But if anybody was to blame, like, who's the most likely culprit? If everybody says it's you, it's probably you. We know it's not. But, like, if it all. All of this is crazy, but if it all turned out to be true, then, s***, it was probably us.

Cristina: Well, yeah, we do know about the aliens who are obsessed with arches.

Jack: Yeah. And they steal all our cows to create. They need them for infrastructure. This has been established. Yes, the aliens on the Moon, on the dark side of the Moon, abduct cows.

Cristina: But any proof on this hollow thing?

Jack: Yes, there's actually a crazy little bit of proof which is kind of fascinating.

Cristina: Crazy little bit.

Jack: It's small and also big.

Cristina: Okay, what's that?

Jack: It's the craters on the Moon.

Cristina: The craters themselves.

Jack: Yes. There is a literal problem which scientists don't really understand even today, why this is the case. But the conspiracy kind of comes from that question mark, which is. The craters on the Moon are very shallow. They are very, very shallow.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: For the size that they are in width. If something impacted them that f****** huge, it should be way deeper. But it's not.

Cristina: But it's not.

Jack: The impact somehow didn't penetrate dirt. Loose dirt. It couldn't, for whatever reason. And the assumption is that the reason is because beneath the surface is a metal hole. And the. The meteors that hit the Moon go as far as the metal hole and shatter there, because they can't penetrate that.

Cristina: Ooh. So this is just an explanation to something that we already have questions about.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That's the best place to put a conspiracy.

Jack: That is the best place to put a conspiracy. It's kind of how God happens. It's like we got questions about this thing. That's because God did it. Yes, God did it. Why didn't that rock penetrate to the center of the moon? God did it.

Cristina: There is pro. Is that now.

Jack: I mean, that's probably like God is protecting the moon.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I don't know. But the smaller meteor meteors at land, the smaller meteors that hit the moon leave proper sized, but not the great ones, but not the big ones. The big ones seem to stop abnormally shallow. And there's no answer for that. That's how they measured. The question comes out of that. If it was just that it was very dense, a rock hitting it would leave a shock wave which would expand the dirt.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But not pierce too deep. But it doesn't apply when you hit it with something smaller that still seems to go as deep as it should and as wide as it should. If we didn't have the small ones behaving the way they should, then we'd just be like, well, no, all of them do the same thing. It's just really thick, dense dirt. And when they hit, it stops them to some degree. And so it's way shallower, even if the shockwave still disturbs the surface. But the small ones don't do that. It's only after a certain depth gets reached that it just stops suddenly.

Cristina: That is strange.

Jack: Yep. Alternatively, the real argument should be that the moon is incredibly credibly dense. But the fact that there's low gravity beats that argument. If it was very, very dense, it would have a lot of gravity.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But because it doesn't have a lot of gravity, we know the center isn't dense. But why is it stopping f****** giant meteors from piercing?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Kind of weird problem, right?

Cristina: It's a weird problem.

Jack: Yeah. So they believe. Yes. Hollow in the middle. But it has a hull that they're impacting. There's something inside the moon. Maybe civilizations. Maybe it's an alien spaceship. That's a crazy one too. They believe that the moon.

Cristina: Okay, but that now we're going to.

Jack: Different things variants of what the moon being hollow means. So before there was explanations of the moon being hollow.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Now what does it mean that it's hollow? So one is that there is alien civilizations there to just move them to a good system. And they found a planet in the right zone that they could park their ship around.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they live in there and they don't bother us or anything. They're just living their lives or whatever. And it's self sustained. They just need energy. Maybe their own system, maybe their own system is too dead. Maybe the star exploded and the trip somewhere else is too far. Maybe just getting here was too difficult. And so they're just here, they're just staying here. So they just parked around the perfect spot.

Cristina: So they're just living in the moon.

Jack: Just living in the moon.

Cristina: People who believe in the hollow moon thing are they all, do they all believe that there's aliens in there or do some just think it's hollow? But that doesn't mean equal aliens?

Jack: Yes, there are some people that believe it. Well, in every instance the hollow moon kind of equates to aliens, but in different contexts. Like we were saying before, there could be a city on the dark side of the moon that has been attacked and is dead.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Similarly, it could be an abandoned hollow moon. The inside of the moon could have dead civilizations. Maybe it's ancient.

Cristina: Okay, so it could have naturally been hollow somehow. No, that's not a possibility.

Jack: No, nature doesn't work that way.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Everything starts from the center and builds outwards.

Cristina: Oh, all right.

Jack: So in the case of the hollow moon having a dead civilization, the two arguments are back to the xenomorph exaggeration, something them up. And that goes back to why we don't want to go back. Like whatever. We don't want to accidentally bring with us whatever the f*** we saw or we found out, or we got DNA for or whatever. We're like, we're not f****** with this. But it could have just been that there is ancient advanced technology up there from creatures that either built the hollow moon and lived in the hollow moon and went extinct over millions of years of being there, and that's it, they're just a civilization in there that expired.

Cristina: There's probably some aliens still there.

Jack: Who knows, There could still be aliens. That's a whole thing that there's probably still filled with, but it's self sustained. All their farms, all their food, all their everything is inside. So they don't really have to leave. And this goes to that sort of advanced. If you remember how the Mayans plugged into the matrix, essentially they could have the same thing. So they don't have to explore the universe. Okay, they just have these virtual realities which are extremely complicated and they just stay inside the moon without having to come out. Alternatively, the moon could have also been their main outpost, the inside of the moon where they had all their technology, other things. As they got ready to evacuate the system and keep exploring the rest of space. So it's not that they died, it's that they abandoned this, which to them is now ancient technology, but to us is extremely advanced that we can't understand it. And then this hollow moon theory of there being technology up there, whether it's that aliens are still up there, whatever, blah, blah, blah, builds into the hologram moon, in which they project a hologram onto the moon so that people don't see anything. But we're consistently making trips to try to study and understand technology. And then this dates backwards to where we start getting technological advancements that blow up. We got crappy ship, rocket fueled, barely any computer power. Our cell phone has more computer power than a f****** rocket from the 60s that got us to the moon. But technological advancement explosion began around the time that we landed on the moon.

Cristina: Where all those UFO conspiracies and Area 51 conspiracies after that.

Jack: Yes. The Roswell and all this bullshit.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah.

Jack: There was like whispers about things, but it started to get really solidified, started to boom way too much. And people are like, why didn't we have these advancements before at this rate? So only after a certain period is there just an increasingly faster development of technology.

Cristina: So the possibility of we found alien technology.

Jack: Yes. And we are reverse engineering it. And there's so much of it that we can't let civilians into the moon or onto the moon. And so we project so that they don't even see us going up there regularly. We're like, we don't go to the moon, but we can keep bringing technology over and over and over and improving, reverse engineering, taking it to facilities on Earth, Keeping some up there often. Yeah, it happens all the time.

Cristina: Oh, wow.

Jack: We work on. We get all our best scientists to work on something like, what the h*** is this name? The name of this guy? David Lazar. Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar, Yeah. So we get people like him to work on the technology that we've found and we're like, so we need you to reverse engineer, break it apart, tell us what's happening, explain all the details that are going on to us.

Cristina: But then that's going into like, there are actual aliens around. Do you think there's.

Jack: No, not necessarily. There's actual aliens around. Maybe they found corpses and like, they probably have like graveyards up there if that's the case.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But you don't think there's. Or like, one doesn't mean the other.

Jack: Yes. Unless they are just getting technology from aliens and there's just some people who are allowed to communicate with the aliens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like Barbalizar said, there were aliens. That they were literally working with them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And those aliens would in theory just be on the moon or in the moon. And we got technology from them. They're like here. You guys can figure this out. This is old to us but you guys can have it. And good luck figuring it out. I know our communication is rough, but we understand. We're peaceful. You're peaceful. Relatively speaking. And good luck. Figure it out then. Maybe we trade tech with them all the time.

Cristina: Things we've come up with the trade tech with them. But maybe because we'll figure something out that they didn't think of.

Jack: Yeah. 100. There's no way two civilizations landed on exactly the same things. I theorize that we could have even landed on different systems entirely of thought. Like we came up with math and we think it's inherent to the universe. But like, who the f*** says, like, yes, what we measure works. But imagine somebody else, a different life form lands on a different thing that isn't math and it works.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Something entirely different that isn't math at all. And it works.

Cristina: Yes. What we would consider magic, etc.

Jack: And so we trade what we have with them.

Cristina: That's awesome.

Jack: So these are all just possibilities. And that's actually really, really interesting to me. The fact that there could be so much crap on the moon.

Cristina: But you actually believe some of these conspiracies then.

Jack: Not really. There's no reason to believe or disbelieve.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It really lands on the fact that we have to assume that the gut. Now this is an easy one to hide though. I don't know how the f*** the. It would have to be a hollow moon. I don't believe the hologram part. That's a weird one.

Cristina: That's very weird.

Jack: But if we're making trips up there, we see crap, fly into space all the time. We can't tell the difference. Like who the f***. It's a satellite. It's a rocket headed to the moon. Like who the f*** knows? You know? We're not out here looking. So they could be making trips all the time. They don't need no f****** hologram. They just lie about what the h*** it is. So the hologram part. Maybe I'm not so sold on that one. But the dark side of the moon having civilizations and stuff, that makes sense to me. That could be possible. I'm not saying I believe it, but it could be possible. Alternatively. There's also the conspiracy that the moon is not just hollow, obviously artificial, but it wasn't. Again back to the ship that's put there because aliens are using it to not share technology, not just find the hot spot to live or whatever. They're observing us.

Cristina: Okay. So it's to watch us.

Jack: It's an observatory.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They moved it there so they can want. And that's why it's title locked with Earth. They're making it so that we don't see them, but they're up there and they're watching and studying and they do make regular trips and what we see coming through and when we catch alien space. That's really.

Cristina: They're working on the documentary of Earth.

Jack: Yeah. They could just be studying humans, studying how life evolves, how primitive creatures move and behave and discover space travel and blah blah, blah.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They could have been there for way longer that. How long has the moon been there? The stories of the moon, forever. Yeah. So they could have been. That just could be an alien outpost and observatory that's been there for millions of years.

Cristina: Yeah. Where they placed it there or they placed.

Jack: Yeah, well I mean they placed it there, but it could have been there since before we started recording s*** before.

Cristina: We were even a human or even you know like a thing.

Jack: They just found life beginning.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like that planet put it put. Put one of our satellites there. Which would be interesting because this is to say if they have the ability to track where life is beginning. Does every place with life beginning have a moon placed around it that's tidally locked so that there's always an observatory studying life Interesting.

Cristina: That is interesting place would man when we find life one day it's gonna.

Jack: Be pretty badass, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Now that being said, I'm over here saying I don't believe in the. The holographic moon. Right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There are weird things relative to that that have happened. Like there was a guy, he was. He was a YouTuber 2013. He was. His name is Crow777. And he began just recording the moon regularly all the time and uploading it regularly.

Cristina: He just loved recording the moon, love.

Jack: Recording the moon until it got weird. On one of his random recordings he saw the moon ripple.

Cristina: Is he sure that's what happened? I don't know. That's weird.

Jack: That's weird, right?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He saw the moon ripple and it was the only thing in the sky to ripple. And it rippled the way a TV with crappy signal would. You know how that line just old school TVs. That line would just clear through it yeah. And static would form. It would, like, fuzz out a little.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Yeah. And he called it the Glitch.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Is that still on YouTube?

Jack: I know, let's look for it. Okay, so that's f****** crazy, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He moves the camera and the ripple doesn't follow the camera. It stays where it was on the moon, gradually moving up.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: F****** weird, right? Yeah, it's very interesting. And so that is pretty compelling.

Cristina: Yes, please look at that. You could still find that on YouTube. We actually looked at it.

Jack: Yes. The YouTube channel is called CRRO W777. And you will find it. It was uploaded seven years ago and it's called the moon is not what you think it is.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And yeah, so that's a really weird thing that is there.

Cristina: He also mentioned something about Mars. Something else is going on. What?

Jack: Yeah, they didn't want to give him stuff for that. But relative to the moon, he. He has an interesting video there. It's kind of interesting. It's. He tries to be scientific. He tries to disprove as much as he can, and he swears there's a moon there. He's not saying there's no moon there.

Cristina: Yes. He's just suspicious whether the full moon, when we see it as the full moon, is that really what we're looking at?

Jack: Yes. He does not trust that what we see is. That's really there.

Cristina: Just. But the other times, though, when the moon is in the other phases, we are probably seeing it as is, because whatever we know.

Jack: See, that's where it gets weird, because he's assuming that sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. But we have technology to pierce that too. So it should be up there all the time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The moon probably has the phases we see, but if there is a hologram, the hologram also has the ability to project those same phases to be consistent with how the moon would behave in case some physicist or somebody is looking and trying to angle, like, no, wait, the moon is in the wrong phase. Because they can't just have the moon be full all the time, but it's done to cover something up. So if we have the hologram, then it's always there.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And that takes us to a different situation in which a man called David Johnson found and filmed a unlisted satellite.

Cristina: Oh, what?

Jack: Yeah, just wandering. And he found a satellite that's not listed. He's not sure what it. But it was functional. It was on. And he sees that it's aimed at the moon, which is also very weird. So he recorded that, uploaded that, and the. He is assuming that this is a projection point. One of multiple projection points.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: To be able to generate the image of the moon. Because why is there an unlisted satellite.

Cristina: Just looking at the moon?

Jack: Just looking at the moon.

Jack: So, yeah, that was a really weird one.

Cristina: That is very strange. What?

Jack: Yeah, so there. There are weird things about some of these cases that are, you know, supporting evidence, you could say. Like, nothing is for sure. Like, we don't know. Just because you found an unlisted satellite and maybe somebody's just secretly studying the moon, what the f***? They could do whatever the h*** they want.

Cristina: Yeah. No connection to actual scientists or secret government.

Jack: Yeah, there's no Illuminati running that thing. It's just people. Same thing with the hologram. Maybe there was some weird glitch happening in the camera that couldn't be explained. Maybe something about the light coming off of the moon was strange and the camera couldn't process it properly, and so it was trying to. But the panning is weird.

Cristina: The panning is super weird because it.

Jack: Should move with the camera.

Jack: That's a weird one. I don't know what to say about that, but that's a very, very strange one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Now, there are arguments that people have tried to make about the moon being a hologram. They say, you know, like, the moon predates hologram technology. But they obviously, obviously, you can't use reason to fight stupidity because you're like, it predates the hologram technology. And then the immediate response from the people who swear the moon is a hologram is all that data was tampered with. Oh, all the proof and all the ancient articles and every. All of it, everything, all history and stuff about the moon is fake. They tampered with it to make. To make us believe. Mad tampering. See, that's the least likely possibility. Yeah, it's too much work.

Cristina: That's a lot of work. Like, when the hologram happened, it was probably in front of our eyes and we didn't notice. Like.

Jack: Yeah, that's crazy.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It's super nuts to even believe that. For some instances, they do believe that there isn't a moon at all, that there was once a moon and there no longer is a moon. It's not sure why there is no longer a moon, but that's why we have the hologram to replace the fact that at some point there was a moon and now there isn't.

Cristina: But there's something there or there's just. For some reason we just decided to put a. Had long.

Jack: There's just a hologram.

Cristina: No explanation. Like, it's just. We have.

Jack: Well, there's. Well, there's two different ones.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Something happened to the moon and we replace it. Maybe some. Maybe we were running experiments that destroyed the moon or something. And to hide that fact.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We put the hologram there so that nobody even knows we destroyed the moon. Alternatively, we come back to the Illuminati, we're the boogeyman. Be scared of us.

Cristina: What do we do?

Jack: They believe that there is no moon and that we've invented these holograms to fund moon research and milk society for money that way.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: How much are we making off of this?

Jack: Not enough for the level of expense going into generating the hologram and paying the actors who would then pretend to go research. Like, there's a lot of moving parts here. I feel like we wasted way more than we get out of it.

Cristina: We're just having fun with it. It's not. There's no reason for it, I guess. Like, it can't be for the money.

Jack: Trolling. We're just trolling. We're just trolling.

Cristina: That is crazy. Yeah, but if there was a moon there and then there's no longer a moon there, how is the moon still affecting us in the way it always affected us if it's not really there?

Jack: Interesting, right? Like these can't be possible. These are the least believable ones when it comes to hollow moon. That's interesting. When it comes to the moon hologram. Only if there's a moon there and only if there's point something there. Yes.

Cristina: There has to be something there that still does the same.

Jack: I think the hollow moon is the most likely out of all the crazy moon things. Obviously the. I guess the really, really most likely one is that the moon landing was faked, but did happen. Now that it was fake, that didn't happen. I just know the US kind of likes the bullshit once in a while. We're known for lying about s*** consistently to everybody all the time. So I wouldn't put it past us that the moon landing did happen just f****** later than we claimed. We showed everybody bullshit on tv just to be like, we beat the Russians.

Cristina: There and then we redid it or did it for real. Yeah.

Jack: Once we dissuaded the Russians from going.

Cristina: That'S all the head.

Jack: We just did it. They're like, well, they beat us. We gotta stop now. And then we're like, good now we have time to do this. Right.

Cristina: Okay. That's more American.

Jack: That's the most believable. Followed by the hollow moon. So that there's probably some life up there. Aliens either watching us or civilization living inside of the moon, self sustained or trading with us. And then on top of that, we could build the hologram moon covering up civilization. Maybe they came, put the things that are projecting the moon on that direction so that we are hidden. So that they're hidden from us.

Cristina: Yeah. We're not doing the projection.

Jack: We're not even doing it. They just got s*** in our orbit spitting up a hologram to where the moon would be.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So any number of things could be happening.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And maybe they don't even need to be spitting anything up. Maybe they can see out of the moon, but we can't see into it. Like a two way mirror.

Cristina: So the only one you're not in the side of is that there's no moon.

Jack: That there's no moon. That's kind of weird and kind of crazy.

Cristina: Kind of.

Jack: Yes. But I think there's possibilities for the moon like the hologram. I'm not past the idea of a hologram.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's just the reasoning behind that seems the dumbest. But like, yeah, I could believe that there's people who have funded having a secret escape location. Like we were thinking about fallout shelters as a real means of survival in the past.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's the whole Fallout series of video games is based on the fact that that was a thought we had. Send the rich into the f****** bunks and f*** everybody else.

Cristina: Bunks in the moon.

Jack: Bunks on the moon. Makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Buildings being built for the last 70 years, whole structure civilizations. Maybe they go up there already all the time just to chill.

Cristina: That'd be crazy.

Jack: Well, that's part of one of these theories that they go up there all the time. That it's just we already have technology. Yeah. People on Earth go to the moon.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Elites, rich people.

Cristina: To hang out with aliens or just.

Jack: Just to hang out.

Cristina: Hang out.

Jack: No, aliens just. They go up there to chill.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: That's one of their escape locations to go. And in case of a tragedy on Earth, that's where they would go and live.

Cristina: That makes sense.

Jack: Yeah. That's totally believable. That's right up there with the moon landing being bullshit and then f****** being real later.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because that's exactly some s*** that we do.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: America's. F***, that's Earth as f***. Rich people are just like, f*** the.

Cristina: Little Guy, those billionaires.

Jack: Yeah. There's a f****** meteor headed towards us. We just go to the moon. F*** them.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: That seems legit to me. That seems pretty accurate.

Cristina: But not the highest.

Jack: What a probability. Yeah, no, that's definitely the moon landing. The moon landing being faked is the most likely out of all of these. Not to say the moon landing was faked, but I think the moon landing was faked.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Not that it didn't happen. I don't think there was no moon landing. Those people are too extreme. I think America is full of s*** and we lied until we got it done.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then everything is up there. Go ahead and prove us wrong. If you went to the moon right now, you'd see all the things. But you're also full of s***. Because. Because I was later.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So I think that's probably the reality of the matter. We lied about the moon landing and this is f****** fine. Like, let's be real. Who the f*** cares? It got done.

Cristina: Yeah. But now they can't back off on their lie because then we're gonna be like, what else did they lie about? Yeah, well, definitely doing that anyway.

Jack: Definitely. The alien testing part.

Cristina: The alien testing.

Jack: Because they were like, yeah, we've been trying to contact and trying to. Like, they just said that recently about Area 51. Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: First it was. No, it's just for. First it was, Area 51 is not real.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then I guess it is real. It is real. Like, okay, so didn't tell us anything. We already know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then they're like, also, we got videos of things that are UFOs that we can't identify. And it's like, okay, f***. But like, we kind of knew already. And then they're like, yeah, and we run experiments here that might have to do things with aliens. Not to say we have aliens, but we run alien related experiments.

Cristina: Eventually they'll tell us they have a body.

Jack: Yeah, there's. They probably got a f****** body. And they're just inching. They're just little by little they can get there.

Cristina: When are they gonna just say so?

Jack: I don't know why It's a f******.

Cristina: Well, I guess we're more accepting over time. Like, would we have panicked originally? I mean, we were panicking. I don't know how this type of thing works. Like, you're trying not to get the people to panic, but they're already panicking from the little that they do know. And then when you finally tell them what they already know, they're not really panicking.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They have all the rights not to. We thought a bug that was more or less at the time that we found out about it, 100th as deadly as the flu at the time that we found out about it. And now obviously worse. But at the moment that we found out about it, this s*** that we've dealt with crap a million billion times worse. We found that about everybody in the planet panicked. Panicked, lost their minds and became irrational as f***. Started to beat the living s*** out of each other. Inside stores for toilet paper. Yeah, for f****** toilet paper.

Cristina: But they were told not to panic. They were told it wasn't as bad as it looked and etc.

Jack: As a result, we can't really trust the collective intellect of people and just be outright that we have aliens. I'm 100% convinced mass suicides on behalf of religious people is move number one.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Mass suicides. Life is meaningless.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: Everybody kills themselves. So many. The majority of the world believes in f****** gods and s***. That just goes out the f****** window just instantaneously. Minus the ones resilient enough to be like, they're lying to us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Minus that group of people. Everyone else who just believes everything a doctor and a scientist f****** tells them 100% of the time. No matter what the f*** it is, Those people just killing themselves, they're just gone forever.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're avoiding that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's why we can't just be like, there's aliens. Because people would just kill themselves. They've proven in the case of toilet paper that we're too f****** stupid. We can't really handle anything. We just tell ourselves we can definitely. And it's really sad, but we. Yeah. They're inching towards it just to see if we're ready. Here's a little something. We're like, okay. Here's a little something else. Okay. The less we react, the more they give us. The more we react, the less they give us.

Cristina: That's a great way to do it.

Jack: Exactly. Because they know. They gaze where we're standing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's the AI from Alien. Yeah. If it's really, really hard, they ease off. They're like, okay. But if it's too easy, they start throwing more just to kind of, you know, bounce it off.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To efficientize.

Cristina: It wasn't just UFOs that they let us know. They also. There was like, something about elements that they didn't understand.

Jack: Yes. There's just things we don't get, period. A bunch of crap. Whether it be technology, Whether it be UFOs, whether it be things that should theoretically be on the periodic table orient, or just things. Just things. Little by little, letting that trickle happen.

Cristina: But no aliens yet.

Jack: But no aliens. As for the. The hollow moon because of the depth of these craters, that could not be figured out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They did run an experiment in which they got a ship all the way up there, the ship broke into two parts, and then they slammed one of the ships into the moon.

Cristina: They slammed the ship into them?

Jack: Yeah. They crash landed one intentionally. Oh, just to see vibrate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Scientists.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I mean, who else is gonna slam a ship into the moon?

Cristina: Sounds pretty crazy.

Jack: Yeah, it's an experiment.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So this is to test vibration to sound and whatever. And the weirdest f****** thing happened with that. The moon began to ring like a bell. Like a bell for an entire hour.

Cristina: Weird.

Jack: Yeah. They landed, they crashed, and then.

Cristina: I don't understand. Okay. But then none of these things make sense because this is all about how they're lying to us. But they let us see this experiment and hear about this crazy nonsense about the bell ring, the moon ringing like a bell, but they're.

Jack: You just associated two completely random things that aren't related at all. People will just ignore the fact that that was done.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Obviously, if they're showing us something, people are gonna be like they're lying. Okay, so assume anything they show us, people just think they're lying.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's just. There's no reason to connect the two. This is anything the scientists did and anything the conspiracy theorists believe unrelated.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Even though the scientists obviously have the same questions, these conspiracy theorists.

Jack: Conspiracy theories are filling up the fact that we don't have an answer for the question.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yes.

Jack: That's why it doesn't really matter. It's not this or that. It's kind of both.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But in doing that and smacking the ship into it, it started ringing. It rang for an entire hour. And the only way that could happen is if something is hollow, something solid would absorb the entire impact and not make a sound internally. But it was vibrating from the inside out. So theorize that. That could definitely. In trying to disprove it, they were like, oh, s***.

Cristina: And now they know, or not really. They don't know anything.

Jack: They don't really know why it rang, but it kind of supported the whole hollow argument.

Cristina: Is there a recording of the hollow ring?

Jack: No, I doubt it.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's probably reported and crap.

Cristina: Yeah. That's crazy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah.

Cristina: That's very Alien what?

Jack: Yeah, it's freaking crazy. And the fact that it rang for so long, it means there was a lot of hollow.

Cristina: A lot.

Jack: They slammed something going crazy fast into it. Didn't penetrate too far. Obviously it wasn't going that level of strength to penetrate. Even if it was, it would have to be like the size of a giant meteor smacking into it. But no, it just left a giant ring.

Cristina: But if we saw a giant meteor hit the moon, would we be able to hear that ring? Or like, I guess if they were there to record the sound, they'd be able to catch it.

Jack: I believe so.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true.

Jack: But also anybody who's immediate. Then again, if it's not kicking up a bunch of debris and junk, because there is something stopping it, which seems to be the case, I guess, wouldn't be dangerous to be around there. You just have to sort of dodge getting hit yourself. And with however large this thing is, the momentum it's with, you don't want it to pull you in with it. Its force.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It'd be more complicated, I guess. We could have people there, we could have things there to record it. If we're lucky, it won't get destroyed. But, yeah, like it does. There's no harm of having something.

Jack: Yeah, you couldn't have. You don't want to risk just killing somebody for something dumb like that. But also, if there's a freaking meteor about to hit the moon, we got to get ready for, oh, yeah, like down here, we got to start making preparations. There's going to be meteor showers. There's going to be mass deaths. It's going to be crazy.

Cristina: We'll hide in the Hollow Earth, I guess.

Jack: But how long before enough of those s**** start causing earthquakes collectively because of the impact that's so consistent?

Jack: F***. Down there, yes. But out of all of these, like, crazy things, there's probably a billion more. But these are some of my favorite ones. I like the idea that there is a hollow moon and like the Mayans on Hollow Earth, that they, like, connected themselves to the matrix mode type of s***. I like the idea that on the hollow moon, aliens have connected themselves to some sort of matrix thing and have gone inward instead of outward. That's pretty cool. Maybe not all of them. Maybe that's just something they do naturally instead of exploring outward. They just, you know, live their lives in there. And it's like, hey, I'm going to the freaking arcade. And then plug into this virtual world inside. And they just do that for however Long. They want probably machines that new. Give them nutrition and crap.

Cristina: Do you think about aliens contacting humans and stuff?

Jack: That's a pretty cool idea too. Definitely possible. There is. One of the weird things we don't understand is why we became so intelligent, technologically speaking, around the 50s and expand so quickly. Now, when you look at our biology, we haven't, like, changed much since then. So that's a really interesting one. If you look at the past, we're very gradual evolvers. This part of our survival mechanism. We are really powerful at picking out what matters and writing that out. But there hasn't been a change since the f****** 50s and 60s, biologically speaking. That could just make us inherently way better at these things. And we had science for quite some time. We've had electricity for some time. For it to just suddenly happen around the time that we went to the moon, like, okay, that's kind of. That's kind of weird.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So there's some possibility to that. I do like the hollow moon idea that the aliens were there maybe for a very long time and then left. They were from Earth. Ancient advanced civilizations from Earth used the moon to then build the technology. Less gravity, and they can take off as a fleet to explore the rest of the stars. That's pretty cool.

Cristina: That's pretty cool. People, I guess, are rich. Using the moon as a getaway.

Jack: That's pretty cool, too. That's dope. It sucks that we're gonna be left behind in case of an emergency, but that's expected anyways.

Cristina: Yeah. Whether it's the moon or the Mars or wherever, they're just.

Jack: Yeah, they're bad.

Cristina: Nothing happens here. We're stuck here.

Jack: They'll all board an ancestorship.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah, it doesn't f****** matter.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's the same story. Every possible scenario. And I like how a couple of these tie up together. So they landed on the moon later. So the moon landing was faked. The moon was hollow when they landed. And there was life on the other side. The things on the other side are advanced a lot. Life forms that are watching us.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Additionally, we agreed to them. Yes. They gave us technology regularly for NASA and the government that they interact with. And then we agreed to shield them further as our technology got better with holograms.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, we could tie all of these up together one way or another so they all function to some degree. The reasoning for some of them, kind of sketchy and dumb half the time, but it is cool that they can kind of function and be. Well, it is cool that we got there, but we lied about it first. And we did get there. We. We did get scared and didn't go back immediately, but did go back and communicate what was up there. And they gave us technology and we made packs and kept expanding and trading technology.

Cristina: So all the possibilities are pretty interesting. All the different ways this. All these things could work. Except for the moon not being there.

Jack: The moon not being there is f****** retarded.

Cristina: No matter.

Jack: Because we still have tidal wave. Not tidal waves. We still have tides.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that relies on the moon.

Cristina: Yes. Or at least something there.

Jack: At least something there. If. Fair enough. If the moon isn't there, something is there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And whatever that hologram is over is huge anyways.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because it has to be big enough to have tides on Earth.

Cristina: Yeah. That's the only problem with that one. And then everything else is fine.

Jack: Yes. Everything else works flawlessly.

Cristina: Or that. Then. Yeah. The whole Illuminati using money. Use. Getting NASA to make money or the fake moon or.

Jack: So dumb. There's no profit in that.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So dumb.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Yeah. I guess that's kind of how that goes. And that's basically why you need to go find somebody to listen to the episodes with.

Cristina: Yes. To learn about weird moon conspiracies.

Jack: No. So that they get Stockholm syndrome. Listen to the episode, and then you kick them out. But then they're gonna be. Get really clingy. Exactly the same way the conspiracy nutcases do about whatever subject they're talking about.

Cristina: Oh, crap. That's what you're talking about.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. You like how I brought that back around? I know what the point of this episode was. It was to say that people are psychotic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you're gonna make one of them extra psychotic and then regret it.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: But you would have had listened to an episode with the listening partner.

Cristina: Mm. And that's the most important thing.

Jack: Yes. And if you manage to get all those things done, then you can tell them, hey, crazy person who doesn't want to leave my home, I have a gun. If you forgot, get out.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, you got that gun to remind them exactly.

Jack: They're gonna leave no matter what. And you tell them, if you're really interested in this show and more things like it. They have so many episodes. You can find all their episodes. Guy or woman or other gender of any type that you would like to say. Xyz, the alpha Alphabet soup member. Listen. Alphabet soup member. You can listen to more episodes on the moon and other things. You can find that on the official website. If you Want guy, person, person. They. Hey, they. You can find them on the official website greatthoughts.info you. Could they. You could also find them on any other podcast platforms, like Apple Podcasts, Spotify, pretty much anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: It's very confusing if you just change what the pronoun that you're using. Like you say they, then you say you, then you say he, then you say she, then you just keep on.

Jack: Yeah. Just keep shifting it as you move forward.

Cristina: That's crazy. If you could do that. Try it. And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. On justcombopod.

Jack: Yes. And crazy person who doesn't want to leave my house. Remember, when you do listen, subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined. These guys are cool. They want your reviews.

Cristina: We do want your.

Jack: We do.

Cristina: We do. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Crazy person. When you leave and you subscribe and you rate and you review after you've found the platform, which you prefer to listen to the show, that you're no longer gonna listen to it with me, you tell somebody else, here's a gun. There's no bullets. Because I don't want you to turn on me suddenly. But use this gun. And just how I got you to love this show and get Stockholm syndrome. Now you can go find. Find your own person to listen with.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Do you just. What? What do they say? You pass it on.

Cristina: Is that what they call it? Yes.

Jack: Move. Passing it forward. Moving it forward.

Cristina: Moving it forward. Giving it forward.

Jack: Passing it.

Cristina: Giving it forward.

Jack: Giving it forward.

Cristina: That sounds right.

Jack: Some like that you something it forward. And now they're gonna go do the thingy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then their Stockholm syndrome person has the same experience, and they go. And the community grows on and on.

Cristina: Yes. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: So now you're a part of the church of Shaggy, though.

Jack: Yeah. Actually, if you think of the order of the universe, it began as disorder, as chaos, and order came out of chaos.

Cristina: So it was first track.

Jack: It was first.

Cristina: Yes. And in the order of things, Shaggy came first.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Unless something represents nothing.

Jack: Well, here's.

Cristina: Or not nothing. Whatever came before this first?

Jack: Yeah, there was some. But I guess that that makes atheos not the top top. We have to say there's something bigger. Call it the God reality.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then reality was there because it's potential. And then the destructive explosion. Something is that we don't know which that one is. Then out of that explosion, chaos happen.

Cristina: Happen, Mr. Saggy. Oh, chaos.

Jack: Crap is everywhere.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And as things begin to form through balance, because Atheos things begin to destroy in equal pace, matter starts to form, collides with other matter that starts to form and thus Shaggy slamming planets and stars into one another.

Cristina: So that's the work of both Atheos and Shaggy.

Jack: Yes. That leads to the eventual settling perfect balance of entire star systems and galaxies and clusters of galaxies.

Cristina: And that would be have to do with Spaghetti Monsters.

Jack: Full order. It goes down the line.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It starts at kek between the collective work of Shaggy and Atheos. It gets form and then from that form, that balance, you then find logic. Hypostafarianism.

Cristina: Yeah. Pretty awesome.

Jack: The unification of beliefs. It's pretty fascinating.

Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.