Rambling 123: Moon Conspiracies
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Was the moon landing faked? Is the moon an intricate hologram designed to hide what’s truly in our skies? Conspiracy theories of the moon unpacked!
Story:
Having recently sent subhumans to investigate the moon due to recent cow abductions and the need to give listeners Stockholm Syndrome, the duo decides to unpack some of the conspiracy theories surrounding our floating space neighbor. In the process the shocking realization that some of these conspiracy theories are possible rises. What’s most shocking is which of these conspiracies has particularly strong evidence in its favor! Find out which on this episode of Just Conversation!
+Episode Details
Topics Discussed
- Stockholm Syndrome
- Cheese Moon
- Hologram Moon
- Illuminati Moon Base
- Moon Aliens
- Faked Moon Landing
- Hollow Moon
- City on the Moon
- Advanced Moon Technology
- Crrow7777
- Unlisted Satellite
- Secret Moon Research
- Area 51
- Government Secrets
- Ringing Moon
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+Transcript
Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discussed.
Jack: Yes. So grab your gun.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Casually load it up with rounds outside, in public, in front of complete strangers, one by one, while smiling at them. Then you close that revolver and you start walking towards them and you say, hey, we're gonna watch. I guess you could watch, theoretically. You just have to, like, travel back in time and come watch us. If you have a time machine, you.
Cristina: Watch us, but otherwise watch us on YouTube. You could, but you're not really watching. Watching us, but it's there.
Jack: Yeah, you could, theoretically, I mean, watch a still image, but you can hear. We're gonna hear a show. We're gonna go hear a show called the Just Conversation Podcast. And when they're like, what the f***? Who the h*** are you? You're just gonna lift your. They already saw you with the gun, and you already pinned it to, like, your belt. You're just gonna lift your shirt up a little and you're gonna repeat.
Cristina: I thought he was already holding it.
Jack: No, he was holding it. He put it. He pinned it into his, like, belt. And then he walked up and he's like, hey. Because he made sure they saw him walk over with the gun, and then he put it there. And then he's like, we're going to go watch. We're going to go listen to a podcast. And the people are like, no. And then he lifts up the shirt just a little to remind them that he has a gun that he just loaded in front of them. He's like, we're going to go listen to a podcast.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And that's how you're going to get a listening companion. By the end of the episode, you're going to have a new best friend that's going to want to listen every time.
Cristina: Mm, this sounds great.
Jack: Definitely. That's how it goes. Look, people get Stockholm Syndrome. You just gotta.
Cristina: It's just gonna lead to them having someone to listen for the rest of their lives. I guess. Like, this person is just gonna.
Jack: Yes, but also you're gonna get rid of them. After this episode. You could tell Them to go home.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah, you just needed them to hear one episode.
Cristina: Okay? The next episode.
Jack: Then you find a new listening partner. I feel like you don't know how the introduction of the show works. Why wouldn't it be the same person? How boring.
Cristina: I don't know. You said something about Stockholm syndrome.
Jack: Yeah, that's fine. They might not want to go after you forcefully put them in a situation in which they had to be there. But that sounds like personal problem. Okay, okay, like, bro, this is over. We do what we're gonna do. Go home.
Cristina: Oh, they might be too attached.
Jack: They might be too attached. But look, it sounds like a personal problem, okay? They're the crazy people at that point, that kind of individual, you can't trust them. Those are usually the freaking maniacs, right? Think of, like. Think of, like, flat earthers, right? They find another flat Earther, and they're immediately committed, and they're like, we're not gonna reinforce our beliefs with each other. That same emotional state is gonna f****** happen in this case. And they're just gonna be like, look, now. Now we're podcasting, and there's so much weird s*** in here. They're already the type of person who gets Stockholm syndrome. Then they're just gonna be the kind of person who's gonna believe all the crazy conspiracies and all the crazy s*** that we talk about on the show. They are now convinced they're converts to what?
Cristina: Many things that we like.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So many.
Jack: They're part of the clone army.
Cristina: They're part of the clone army.
Jack: That's what we call our fans, right? The clone army.
Cristina: We have a name for our fans.
Jack: No, they're just subhumans. Our fans. Yeah. We established this before, but we never say it. We got to say it all the time. There are. There are our listeners. Are the subhumans okay? Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Even though they're not the actual subhumans.
Jack: Even though they're not the actual subhumans. Yeah, we actually have subhumans, which we sent to the moon recently to prove that it was made of cheese.
Cristina: Is that.
Jack: Was that. There was a cheese castle or some s***?
Cristina: There's definitely a cheese castle.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Aliens who were obsessed with cheese, I guess.
Jack: Yeah. And that's why they steal the cows.
Cristina: I remember. Yes.
Jack: I remember. I remember one of those glorious conspiracy theories that was created by who the f*** knows what. That's kind of crazy when you think about it. Does somebody. I mean, I guess all the moon conspiracy theories are nuts, but, like, the Fact that there's one about cheese on the moon.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like, whoa, dude.
Cristina: Ah, it looks similar to cheese. I can't believe someone actually believes that it's made out of cheese.
Jack: Do you think it's just like trolling? Like a troll conspiracy maybe?
Cristina: Like, you really think people there's like a real conspiracy that, man.
Jack: I wouldn't be surprised.
Cristina: The moon is made up cheese.
Jack: I wouldn't be surprised. I would. I would totally not put it past at least one person on earth. There's 7.5 billion people on this planet. One of them thinks the moon is made out of cheese.
Cristina: For real?
Jack: For real. Like, swears that that moon is made out of cheese. They probably can't explain how, but they're like, I also don't know how the sun works. So like, you know, they're rationalizing it and s***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, I don't even know how the sun works. You tell me how air functions. So why can't the moon be made out of cheese? You know that logic instead of the freaking anti vaxxer logic. It's like, I don't get it. Therefore it must be wrong. Yeah. I don't understand physics. So it's wrong. Scientists are lying.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's like, I'm sure that's not how anything works. Just because you don't f****** understand does not mean it is a lie. It kind of means you're stupid. Really?
Cristina: No. The Earth is flat and the moon is made out of cheese. These two things make sense together.
Jack: Not only that, not only is the earth flat and the moon made out of cheese, but the moon orbits in a circular motion around the edge of the disk with the sun opposite. Opposite the moon. I'm not entirely sure why the sun is opposite the moon on this f****** thing, but whatever. Maybe they do. Well, no, we see the moon and the sun together sometimes, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So do they believe that the moon or the sun moves faster than the other? Like the sun is the faster one that makes whole lapse every day while the moon doesn't.
Cristina: Yes, maybe. Or maybe they don't realize that happens.
Jack: And they're like, they're always opposite each other and when they see the moon in the sky, they're like, that's some other s***.
Cristina: Yes, yes, man.
Jack: Like, I'm not surprised. I wouldn't put it past anybody. You know, that's kind of how this goes. But like. All right, so a bunch of people believe a bunch of crazy s*** about the moon, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The most consistent one is the the moon landing was faked.
Cristina: Yeah. Because that's the most, like, that's all.
Jack: Anybody knows about the f****** moon. Yeah, the moon. Land people landed on the moon.
Cristina: That was the biggest event.
Jack: But look. Oh, God. Some of the f****** things they discuss are so stupid about that. Yeah. For example, the. The light contrast, the fact that you look up and there's no stars. The fact that they. They see the moon reflecting. This is the moon is really, really bright, but they don't see stars in.
Cristina: The sky like these in that photo or I read.
Jack: Not the photo in the photos and videos. And like, there's explanations behind all of this s***, but they're not gonna pay attention to any of it. They're really, really unbelievably fixated on it being fake. And even if you present them with all the evidence that says we can replicate the exact circumstances that answer any one of these things, well, if you.
Cristina: Replicate it, you just prove that you faked it because you just. Like, that's no. That what they think.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no. I don't mean replicate it in a fake manner. I'm saying you can prove that these instances happen.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like that we can suppress the stars from the sky with a bright enough light in contrast to those stars, the suppressing them, things like that. And so they are, I don't know, people crazy. They want to believe what they want.
Cristina: To believe what was, like, the craziest thing they think of the moon. Or like what people think, like, the.
Jack: Craziest thing they think of the moon. I would say that the moon is a hologram.
Cristina: As a hologram.
Jack: That is crazy.
Cristina: That is pretty crazy.
Jack: Yeah. They think the Illuminati is doing it.
Cristina: And why are the Illuminati doing it?
Jack: Well, there's a multitude of reasons. I think the Illuminati is doing it primarily because they probably have a secret base that is on the moon for the elites who are part of the Illuminati to hang out because they're filthy rich and can afford going to the moon, which theoretically means they've been able to go to the moon for very, very long, maybe even longer than the moon.
Cristina: But it's not really a moon.
Jack: There is a moon up there.
Cristina: Oh, there is a moon.
Jack: In this scenario, there is actually a moon, but there's a hologram moon projected over the moon to hide the fact that the moon is its own civilization, essentially for elites.
Cristina: How does this.
Jack: This is no different hologram than flat earth. And over the ice wall that we're not allowed to cross, there being cities for elites. Okay, this is the we believe in science but they're lying to us version of we're crazy.
Cristina: Okay. But I don't understand. Like, there's cities under the hologram. How does this hologram work?
Jack: Hologram is. Well, we can't. The hologram is just projected onto the moon.
Cristina: Onto the moon?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: That's just so crazy. Okay, but like, if the people on the moon, when they look up, they just see the hologram of the moon.
Jack: The people on the moon?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No, the people on the moon just see Earth. The hologram is on them.
Cristina: It's on them. Okay.
Jack: Look at it like this. If you stand in front of a projector.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Looking back at the projector, you just see the light that's projecting the thing.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But if you turn around, you will see the thing, the thing being projected.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We're on the side of the projector, seeing what's projected. They're on what's being projected. Just seeing where the projection is coming from.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. And not even necessarily seeing a giant light coming from the sky where Earth would be, because it doesn't actually need to be literally so. Exactly. On the moon. They're just probably obscuring a part of the sky, preventing anybody from seeing the moon.
Cristina: Okay. Are they also the ones like, there's something in the dark side of the moon, or is that a whole different thing?
Jack: That's a whole other thing that has to do with the Apollo moon landing.
Cristina: That's the new. How?
Jack: Well, they think that the reason we don't go back is because the moon landing was real. But when we landed on the moon, we found something. We found something. We found many somethings.
Cristina: Like, alien something.
Jack: Yeah. It ranges. There has been talks that they have found buildings, they have found technology, they have found a bunch of different things. And on the dark side of the moon, particular, like on the surface, where it's not the dark side where we could see, there were little things here and there. But on the opposite side, on the dark side, which isn't really dark because it gets lit all the time. We just don't see it happen. There were buildings, maybe even alien settlements, maybe even alien civilizations.
Cristina: But, like, the aliens are alive. Are they there right now or is like ancient stuff?
Jack: Like, don't know. None of that is clear. It could have been. I'm sure this variance. These in some cases are probably like, we saw aliens and they were like, don't come back. In other cases, like, there was abandoned cities. That means there's something out here that killed Them?
Cristina: Yeah, that could totally, you know, sounds so horror.
Jack: Like the xenomorph is just really hanging up on the moon and s***.
Cristina: Yeah, that would stop us from going back.
Jack: Yeah, it's nuts. Like the possibilities of a city on the moon on the dark side. How would be nuts? That'd be so crazy. That would be really cool.
Cristina: Yeah, but what about all these planets to go to the moon? Do they not matter? Would all of these theories just disappear?
Jack: Well, no. All you got to think about relative to that is who's going up to the moon.
Cristina: Oh, because it's going to be astronauts.
Jack: It's the same f****** people who are hiding the secret in the first place.
Cristina: What about when they have just regular people eventually are going to be able to at least go around the moon? I think.
Jack: Yeah. I would argue that they're going to one, make routes that don't go through the dark side. That's the far end of the moon. We're probably not going to circle around the moon. We're probably going to fly by the moon. Thus the courses in which the route that we travel is intentionally planned so that people don't see giant cities.
Cristina: Okay, but they would at least show us where the actual landing spots are. I mean that should be proof for that. One thing that people worry about, like, is that real? We could finally see it.
Jack: Well, here's what's interesting. Yes, that should totally be up there. There is a conspiracy about the moon landing that suggests that the moon landing did happen, but it didn't happen when we thought it happened.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it goes like this. The idea is that the Russians were getting too close technologically to actually be able to reach us there. And because we're f****** egotistic maniacs, we couldn't let that happen. We have to be there f****** first. Because we're, we're the best, America.
Jack: That sounds right. Right. So we were like, no, we gotta do it. But we couldn't. And so we saw that they're just a couple of days from launching some s*** that'll get up there.
Cristina: So we did it.
Jack: So we faked it.
Cristina: We faked it.
Jack: Okay, we faked it. But that's not to say the moon landing didn't happen. They just obscured the timelines. And it goes like this, right? So we go into a facility in which we recreate the conditions we expect to see. Einstein's theory of relativity is pretty spot on. The last bit was proven after we saw gravitational waves. He's been a hundred percent right about everything. He's Ever predicted. Meaning basing everything on that, we had a pretty accurate estimate of what was going to happen when we got up there. We knew how the gravity was going to work. We knew how everything was going to function.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: So we replicated what it would have been like to be up there, how the sky would look, how the. The moon's surface would look and all these things. And we did sort of a rehearsal landing where we land on the moon or whatever, but it's really a pool, the inside of a ginormous pool where we have the people.
Cristina: And we recorded that or something.
Jack: Yes. And we record that part and we digitally remove bubbles and crap like that. That's moving around in the water to enhance the moon effect. Now, everything that was done with all your scientists, you leave no room for error. You leave no room for chance. Everything is scripted to the T. Okay. So everything you were going to do on the moon, you had to rehearse anyways.
Cristina: Yeah. So.
Jack: So that, you know, step by step, everything you were gonna do, how you were gonna do it, why you were gonna do it, every inch of everything had to be. You have to know how long you're on there. You have to move quickly. Don't waste feel no nothing. And so they replicate what was going to happen, and they record it and then air that. And it probably doesn't even air live. Like, they record the whole s*** first. They edit the whole thing and then they pretend it's live. They show it on tv. They make a big thing about it. Everybody's all excited. The Duke's mind blows out of his skull and he's like, whoa, these guys are my heroes.
Cristina: They're the manliest men in the world.
Jack: Yes. All of this and it didn't even happen. They were still planning to go to.
Cristina: The moon, and they eventually did.
Jack: Months to years later, they take the trip to the moon and do everything that was rehearsed. All of it. The flag is where it needs to be, the technology abandoned where it needs to be. Everything is where it needs to be. Because that was all part of the plan anyways, so that when people do travel through the moon, tourism and blah, blah, blah, they can land and see what was really there from the real moon landing, just not the one that they watched on tv. But it was identical. There's no difference other than it happened later.
Cristina: When it comes to the video, wouldn't people be able to know if it was edited in a special way?
Jack: People swear they think they can tell.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Jack: That's consistently an argued thing. People look at the video all the time and they're like, look at this glitch and look at that glitch. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Cristina: Oh, but they do that with like the. The map of the world and stuff like that.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Everybody's crazy. They do it with some s***.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's like the. The 911 bombing thing with the plane. It's like. Well, it looks like this from here. Looks like that from there was clearly edited.
Cristina: Yes. Yeah.
Jack: So it's like that's always f****** happening.
Cristina: That happens a lot. Okay. Yeah.
Jack: Literally everything.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: There's crap that isn't even conspiracy theories that people just start making, digging into videos and being like, I see discrepancies. It's.
Cristina: Yes, yes. Okay. And a lot of evil clouds. For some reason. It's either some type of bomb or you see the devil in the clouds.
Jack: Oh, my God. That happens all the time. Yes. Anytime anything happens, if there's a fire, I see the devil in the fire. Those are usually religious people.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Demons and.
Cristina: But yes, it's like one is a bomb or two evil clouds.
Jack: The other one is when the sky behaves a certain way. Like normal phenomena. That's just rare, I guess. Not normal, but phenomenon. That's just rare.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like the sky parts in a certain way and the God ray shoots from a specific direction and people are like, God is up there. Whatever. And it's like, man, that was just the clouds opening up in that one patch. Come on.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like. No, you see, God is shining on a spot. There must be something important over that spot.
Cristina: It's always.
Jack: People need something to believe in, man. Whether it's a conspiracy theory or that God is aiming at like a grass patch or some.
Cristina: That's crazy. Has it. Have anyone seen Jesus on the moon yet?
Jack: Jesus on. I'm sure they have. There's some. There's so much weird s*** about the moon, man. People think the craziest thing about it, like the fact that the moon is hollow. People swear. People swear the moon is hollow.
Cristina: So there's a. Cities outside and it's hollow inside. Or the cities are actually inside this.
Jack: No, these are different conspiracies, okay? They're not all. It's not that the moon is hollow. There's a hologram on the moon landing whistle. Faked. But it did happen late. Like, it's not all. I mean, I guess it could be.
Cristina: Theoretically, someone could have thought all of these things are true at once.
Jack: They probably stitch it together in some manner, shape or form. To make it make sense.
Cristina: Yeah, like with the Illuminati things and all those conspiracy. There's a someone who connects every single event to that same one thing. Yeah, so it can happen with the moon.
Jack: Look, let's be real. We know the Illuminati doesn't do anything. We work for the Illuminati. We're here informing you. We wouldn't be telling you that the moon landing was fake. If it's real, we're telling you it's real. Of course I don't f****** know it's real. But I know that our bosses aren't responsible for anything. But there is definitely somebody out there trying to stitch everything. And based on how often we get blamed for everything, it. Like, if anybody was responsible, it would f****** be us. Right? Based on how often the Illuminati gets blamed.
Cristina: Yeah. So this probably has something to do with us.
Jack: It doesn't. But if anybody was to blame, like, who's the most likely culprit? If everybody says it's you, it's probably you. We know it's not. But, like, if it all. All of this is crazy, but if it all turned out to be true, then, s***, it was probably us.
Cristina: Well, yeah, we do know about the aliens who are obsessed with arches.
Jack: Yeah. And they steal all our cows to create. They need them for infrastructure. This has been established. Yes, the aliens on the Moon, on the dark side of the Moon, abduct cows.
Cristina: But any proof on this hollow thing?
Jack: Yes, there's actually a crazy little bit of proof which is kind of fascinating.
Cristina: Crazy little bit.
Jack: It's small and also big.
Cristina: Okay, what's that?
Jack: It's the craters on the Moon.
Cristina: The craters themselves.
Jack: Yes. There is a literal problem which scientists don't really understand even today, why this is the case. But the conspiracy kind of comes from that question mark, which is. The craters on the Moon are very shallow. They are very, very shallow.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: For the size that they are in width. If something impacted them that f****** huge, it should be way deeper. But it's not.
Cristina: But it's not.
Jack: The impact somehow didn't penetrate dirt. Loose dirt. It couldn't, for whatever reason. And the assumption is that the reason is because beneath the surface is a metal hole. And the. The meteors that hit the Moon go as far as the metal hole and shatter there, because they can't penetrate that.
Cristina: Ooh. So this is just an explanation to something that we already have questions about.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: That's the best place to put a conspiracy.
Jack: That is the best place to put a conspiracy. It's kind of how God happens. It's like we got questions about this thing. That's because God did it. Yes, God did it. Why didn't that rock penetrate to the center of the moon? God did it.
Cristina: There is pro. Is that now.
Jack: I mean, that's probably like God is protecting the moon.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I don't know. But the smaller meteor meteors at land, the smaller meteors that hit the moon leave proper sized, but not the great ones, but not the big ones. The big ones seem to stop abnormally shallow. And there's no answer for that. That's how they measured. The question comes out of that. If it was just that it was very dense, a rock hitting it would leave a shock wave which would expand the dirt.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But not pierce too deep. But it doesn't apply when you hit it with something smaller that still seems to go as deep as it should and as wide as it should. If we didn't have the small ones behaving the way they should, then we'd just be like, well, no, all of them do the same thing. It's just really thick, dense dirt. And when they hit, it stops them to some degree. And so it's way shallower, even if the shockwave still disturbs the surface. But the small ones don't do that. It's only after a certain depth gets reached that it just stops suddenly.
Cristina: That is strange.
Jack: Yep. Alternatively, the real argument should be that the moon is incredibly credibly dense. But the fact that there's low gravity beats that argument. If it was very, very dense, it would have a lot of gravity.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: But because it doesn't have a lot of gravity, we know the center isn't dense. But why is it stopping f****** giant meteors from piercing?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Kind of weird problem, right?
Cristina: It's a weird problem.
Jack: Yeah. So they believe. Yes. Hollow in the middle. But it has a hull that they're impacting. There's something inside the moon. Maybe civilizations. Maybe it's an alien spaceship. That's a crazy one too. They believe that the moon.
Cristina: Okay, but that now we're going to.
Jack: Different things variants of what the moon being hollow means. So before there was explanations of the moon being hollow.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now what does it mean that it's hollow? So one is that there is alien civilizations there to just move them to a good system. And they found a planet in the right zone that they could park their ship around.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And they live in there and they don't bother us or anything. They're just living their lives or whatever. And it's self sustained. They just need energy. Maybe their own system, maybe their own system is too dead. Maybe the star exploded and the trip somewhere else is too far. Maybe just getting here was too difficult. And so they're just here, they're just staying here. So they just parked around the perfect spot.
Cristina: So they're just living in the moon.
Jack: Just living in the moon.
Cristina: People who believe in the hollow moon thing are they all, do they all believe that there's aliens in there or do some just think it's hollow? But that doesn't mean equal aliens?
Jack: Yes, there are some people that believe it. Well, in every instance the hollow moon kind of equates to aliens, but in different contexts. Like we were saying before, there could be a city on the dark side of the moon that has been attacked and is dead.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Similarly, it could be an abandoned hollow moon. The inside of the moon could have dead civilizations. Maybe it's ancient.
Cristina: Okay, so it could have naturally been hollow somehow. No, that's not a possibility.
Jack: No, nature doesn't work that way.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Everything starts from the center and builds outwards.
Cristina: Oh, all right.
Jack: So in the case of the hollow moon having a dead civilization, the two arguments are back to the xenomorph exaggeration, something them up. And that goes back to why we don't want to go back. Like whatever. We don't want to accidentally bring with us whatever the f*** we saw or we found out, or we got DNA for or whatever. We're like, we're not f****** with this. But it could have just been that there is ancient advanced technology up there from creatures that either built the hollow moon and lived in the hollow moon and went extinct over millions of years of being there, and that's it, they're just a civilization in there that expired.
Cristina: There's probably some aliens still there.
Jack: Who knows, There could still be aliens. That's a whole thing that there's probably still filled with, but it's self sustained. All their farms, all their food, all their everything is inside. So they don't really have to leave. And this goes to that sort of advanced. If you remember how the Mayans plugged into the matrix, essentially they could have the same thing. So they don't have to explore the universe. Okay, they just have these virtual realities which are extremely complicated and they just stay inside the moon without having to come out. Alternatively, the moon could have also been their main outpost, the inside of the moon where they had all their technology, other things. As they got ready to evacuate the system and keep exploring the rest of space. So it's not that they died, it's that they abandoned this, which to them is now ancient technology, but to us is extremely advanced that we can't understand it. And then this hollow moon theory of there being technology up there, whether it's that aliens are still up there, whatever, blah, blah, blah, builds into the hologram moon, in which they project a hologram onto the moon so that people don't see anything. But we're consistently making trips to try to study and understand technology. And then this dates backwards to where we start getting technological advancements that blow up. We got crappy ship, rocket fueled, barely any computer power. Our cell phone has more computer power than a f****** rocket from the 60s that got us to the moon. But technological advancement explosion began around the time that we landed on the moon.
Cristina: Where all those UFO conspiracies and Area 51 conspiracies after that.
Jack: Yes. The Roswell and all this bullshit.
Cristina: Yes. Yeah.
Jack: There was like whispers about things, but it started to get really solidified, started to boom way too much. And people are like, why didn't we have these advancements before at this rate? So only after a certain period is there just an increasingly faster development of technology.
Cristina: So the possibility of we found alien technology.
Jack: Yes. And we are reverse engineering it. And there's so much of it that we can't let civilians into the moon or onto the moon. And so we project so that they don't even see us going up there regularly. We're like, we don't go to the moon, but we can keep bringing technology over and over and over and improving, reverse engineering, taking it to facilities on Earth, Keeping some up there often. Yeah, it happens all the time.
Cristina: Oh, wow.
Jack: We work on. We get all our best scientists to work on something like, what the h*** is this name? The name of this guy? David Lazar. Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar, Yeah. So we get people like him to work on the technology that we've found and we're like, so we need you to reverse engineer, break it apart, tell us what's happening, explain all the details that are going on to us.
Cristina: But then that's going into like, there are actual aliens around. Do you think there's.
Jack: No, not necessarily. There's actual aliens around. Maybe they found corpses and like, they probably have like graveyards up there if that's the case.
Cristina: Oh, okay. But you don't think there's. Or like, one doesn't mean the other.
Jack: Yes. Unless they are just getting technology from aliens and there's just some people who are allowed to communicate with the aliens.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like Barbalizar said, there were aliens. That they were literally working with them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And those aliens would in theory just be on the moon or in the moon. And we got technology from them. They're like here. You guys can figure this out. This is old to us but you guys can have it. And good luck figuring it out. I know our communication is rough, but we understand. We're peaceful. You're peaceful. Relatively speaking. And good luck. Figure it out then. Maybe we trade tech with them all the time.
Cristina: Things we've come up with the trade tech with them. But maybe because we'll figure something out that they didn't think of.
Jack: Yeah. 100. There's no way two civilizations landed on exactly the same things. I theorize that we could have even landed on different systems entirely of thought. Like we came up with math and we think it's inherent to the universe. But like, who the f*** says, like, yes, what we measure works. But imagine somebody else, a different life form lands on a different thing that isn't math and it works.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. Something entirely different that isn't math at all. And it works.
Cristina: Yes. What we would consider magic, etc.
Jack: And so we trade what we have with them.
Cristina: That's awesome.
Jack: So these are all just possibilities. And that's actually really, really interesting to me. The fact that there could be so much crap on the moon.
Cristina: But you actually believe some of these conspiracies then.
Jack: Not really. There's no reason to believe or disbelieve.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It really lands on the fact that we have to assume that the gut. Now this is an easy one to hide though. I don't know how the f*** the. It would have to be a hollow moon. I don't believe the hologram part. That's a weird one.
Cristina: That's very weird.
Jack: But if we're making trips up there, we see crap, fly into space all the time. We can't tell the difference. Like who the f***. It's a satellite. It's a rocket headed to the moon. Like who the f*** knows? You know? We're not out here looking. So they could be making trips all the time. They don't need no f****** hologram. They just lie about what the h*** it is. So the hologram part. Maybe I'm not so sold on that one. But the dark side of the moon having civilizations and stuff, that makes sense to me. That could be possible. I'm not saying I believe it, but it could be possible. Alternatively. There's also the conspiracy that the moon is not just hollow, obviously artificial, but it wasn't. Again back to the ship that's put there because aliens are using it to not share technology, not just find the hot spot to live or whatever. They're observing us.
Cristina: Okay. So it's to watch us.
Jack: It's an observatory.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They moved it there so they can want. And that's why it's title locked with Earth. They're making it so that we don't see them, but they're up there and they're watching and studying and they do make regular trips and what we see coming through and when we catch alien space. That's really.
Cristina: They're working on the documentary of Earth.
Jack: Yeah. They could just be studying humans, studying how life evolves, how primitive creatures move and behave and discover space travel and blah blah, blah.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They could have been there for way longer that. How long has the moon been there? The stories of the moon, forever. Yeah. So they could have been. That just could be an alien outpost and observatory that's been there for millions of years.
Cristina: Yeah. Where they placed it there or they placed.
Jack: Yeah, well I mean they placed it there, but it could have been there since before we started recording s*** before.
Cristina: We were even a human or even you know like a thing.
Jack: They just found life beginning.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like that planet put it put. Put one of our satellites there. Which would be interesting because this is to say if they have the ability to track where life is beginning. Does every place with life beginning have a moon placed around it that's tidally locked so that there's always an observatory studying life Interesting.
Cristina: That is interesting place would man when we find life one day it's gonna.
Jack: Be pretty badass, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now that being said, I'm over here saying I don't believe in the. The holographic moon. Right?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: There are weird things relative to that that have happened. Like there was a guy, he was. He was a YouTuber 2013. He was. His name is Crow777. And he began just recording the moon regularly all the time and uploading it regularly.
Cristina: He just loved recording the moon, love.
Jack: Recording the moon until it got weird. On one of his random recordings he saw the moon ripple.
Cristina: Is he sure that's what happened? I don't know. That's weird.
Jack: That's weird, right?
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: He saw the moon ripple and it was the only thing in the sky to ripple. And it rippled the way a TV with crappy signal would. You know how that line just old school TVs. That line would just clear through it yeah. And static would form. It would, like, fuzz out a little.
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: Yeah. And he called it the Glitch.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Is that still on YouTube?
Jack: I know, let's look for it. Okay, so that's f****** crazy, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: He moves the camera and the ripple doesn't follow the camera. It stays where it was on the moon, gradually moving up.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: F****** weird, right? Yeah, it's very interesting. And so that is pretty compelling.
Cristina: Yes, please look at that. You could still find that on YouTube. We actually looked at it.
Jack: Yes. The YouTube channel is called CRRO W777. And you will find it. It was uploaded seven years ago and it's called the moon is not what you think it is.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And yeah, so that's a really weird thing that is there.
Cristina: He also mentioned something about Mars. Something else is going on. What?
Jack: Yeah, they didn't want to give him stuff for that. But relative to the moon, he. He has an interesting video there. It's kind of interesting. It's. He tries to be scientific. He tries to disprove as much as he can, and he swears there's a moon there. He's not saying there's no moon there.
Cristina: Yes. He's just suspicious whether the full moon, when we see it as the full moon, is that really what we're looking at?
Jack: Yes. He does not trust that what we see is. That's really there.
Cristina: Just. But the other times, though, when the moon is in the other phases, we are probably seeing it as is, because whatever we know.
Jack: See, that's where it gets weird, because he's assuming that sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. But we have technology to pierce that too. So it should be up there all the time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The moon probably has the phases we see, but if there is a hologram, the hologram also has the ability to project those same phases to be consistent with how the moon would behave in case some physicist or somebody is looking and trying to angle, like, no, wait, the moon is in the wrong phase. Because they can't just have the moon be full all the time, but it's done to cover something up. So if we have the hologram, then it's always there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And that takes us to a different situation in which a man called David Johnson found and filmed a unlisted satellite.
Cristina: Oh, what?
Jack: Yeah, just wandering. And he found a satellite that's not listed. He's not sure what it. But it was functional. It was on. And he sees that it's aimed at the moon, which is also very weird. So he recorded that, uploaded that, and the. He is assuming that this is a projection point. One of multiple projection points.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: To be able to generate the image of the moon. Because why is there an unlisted satellite.
Cristina: Just looking at the moon?
Jack: Just looking at the moon.
Jack: So, yeah, that was a really weird one.
Cristina: That is very strange. What?
Jack: Yeah, so there. There are weird things about some of these cases that are, you know, supporting evidence, you could say. Like, nothing is for sure. Like, we don't know. Just because you found an unlisted satellite and maybe somebody's just secretly studying the moon, what the f***? They could do whatever the h*** they want.
Cristina: Yeah. No connection to actual scientists or secret government.
Jack: Yeah, there's no Illuminati running that thing. It's just people. Same thing with the hologram. Maybe there was some weird glitch happening in the camera that couldn't be explained. Maybe something about the light coming off of the moon was strange and the camera couldn't process it properly, and so it was trying to. But the panning is weird.
Cristina: The panning is super weird because it.
Jack: Should move with the camera.
Jack: That's a weird one. I don't know what to say about that, but that's a very, very strange one.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Now, there are arguments that people have tried to make about the moon being a hologram. They say, you know, like, the moon predates hologram technology. But they obviously, obviously, you can't use reason to fight stupidity because you're like, it predates the hologram technology. And then the immediate response from the people who swear the moon is a hologram is all that data was tampered with. Oh, all the proof and all the ancient articles and every. All of it, everything, all history and stuff about the moon is fake. They tampered with it to make. To make us believe. Mad tampering. See, that's the least likely possibility. Yeah, it's too much work.
Cristina: That's a lot of work. Like, when the hologram happened, it was probably in front of our eyes and we didn't notice. Like.
Jack: Yeah, that's crazy.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: It's super nuts to even believe that. For some instances, they do believe that there isn't a moon at all, that there was once a moon and there no longer is a moon. It's not sure why there is no longer a moon, but that's why we have the hologram to replace the fact that at some point there was a moon and now there isn't.
Cristina: But there's something there or there's just. For some reason we just decided to put a. Had long.
Jack: There's just a hologram.
Cristina: No explanation. Like, it's just. We have.
Jack: Well, there's. Well, there's two different ones.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Something happened to the moon and we replace it. Maybe some. Maybe we were running experiments that destroyed the moon or something. And to hide that fact.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We put the hologram there so that nobody even knows we destroyed the moon. Alternatively, we come back to the Illuminati, we're the boogeyman. Be scared of us.
Cristina: What do we do?
Jack: They believe that there is no moon and that we've invented these holograms to fund moon research and milk society for money that way.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: How much are we making off of this?
Jack: Not enough for the level of expense going into generating the hologram and paying the actors who would then pretend to go research. Like, there's a lot of moving parts here. I feel like we wasted way more than we get out of it.
Cristina: We're just having fun with it. It's not. There's no reason for it, I guess. Like, it can't be for the money.
Jack: Trolling. We're just trolling. We're just trolling.
Cristina: That is crazy. Yeah, but if there was a moon there and then there's no longer a moon there, how is the moon still affecting us in the way it always affected us if it's not really there?
Jack: Interesting, right? Like these can't be possible. These are the least believable ones when it comes to hollow moon. That's interesting. When it comes to the moon hologram. Only if there's a moon there and only if there's point something there. Yes.
Cristina: There has to be something there that still does the same.
Jack: I think the hollow moon is the most likely out of all the crazy moon things. Obviously the. I guess the really, really most likely one is that the moon landing was faked, but did happen. Now that it was fake, that didn't happen. I just know the US kind of likes the bullshit once in a while. We're known for lying about s*** consistently to everybody all the time. So I wouldn't put it past us that the moon landing did happen just f****** later than we claimed. We showed everybody bullshit on tv just to be like, we beat the Russians.
Cristina: There and then we redid it or did it for real. Yeah.
Jack: Once we dissuaded the Russians from going.
Cristina: That'S all the head.
Jack: We just did it. They're like, well, they beat us. We gotta stop now. And then we're like, good now we have time to do this. Right.
Cristina: Okay. That's more American.
Jack: That's the most believable. Followed by the hollow moon. So that there's probably some life up there. Aliens either watching us or civilization living inside of the moon, self sustained or trading with us. And then on top of that, we could build the hologram moon covering up civilization. Maybe they came, put the things that are projecting the moon on that direction so that we are hidden. So that they're hidden from us.
Cristina: Yeah. We're not doing the projection.
Jack: We're not even doing it. They just got s*** in our orbit spitting up a hologram to where the moon would be.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So any number of things could be happening.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And maybe they don't even need to be spitting anything up. Maybe they can see out of the moon, but we can't see into it. Like a two way mirror.
Cristina: So the only one you're not in the side of is that there's no moon.
Jack: That there's no moon. That's kind of weird and kind of crazy.
Cristina: Kind of.
Jack: Yes. But I think there's possibilities for the moon like the hologram. I'm not past the idea of a hologram.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: It's just the reasoning behind that seems the dumbest. But like, yeah, I could believe that there's people who have funded having a secret escape location. Like we were thinking about fallout shelters as a real means of survival in the past.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's the whole Fallout series of video games is based on the fact that that was a thought we had. Send the rich into the f****** bunks and f*** everybody else.
Cristina: Bunks in the moon.
Jack: Bunks on the moon. Makes sense.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Buildings being built for the last 70 years, whole structure civilizations. Maybe they go up there already all the time just to chill.
Cristina: That'd be crazy.
Jack: Well, that's part of one of these theories that they go up there all the time. That it's just we already have technology. Yeah. People on Earth go to the moon.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Elites, rich people.
Cristina: To hang out with aliens or just.
Jack: Just to hang out.
Cristina: Hang out.
Jack: No, aliens just. They go up there to chill.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: That's one of their escape locations to go. And in case of a tragedy on Earth, that's where they would go and live.
Cristina: That makes sense.
Jack: Yeah. That's totally believable. That's right up there with the moon landing being bullshit and then f****** being real later.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Because that's exactly some s*** that we do.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: America's. F***, that's Earth as f***. Rich people are just like, f*** the.
Cristina: Little Guy, those billionaires.
Jack: Yeah. There's a f****** meteor headed towards us. We just go to the moon. F*** them.
Cristina: Yes. What?
Jack: That seems legit to me. That seems pretty accurate.
Cristina: But not the highest.
Jack: What a probability. Yeah, no, that's definitely the moon landing. The moon landing being faked is the most likely out of all of these. Not to say the moon landing was faked, but I think the moon landing was faked.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Not that it didn't happen. I don't think there was no moon landing. Those people are too extreme. I think America is full of s*** and we lied until we got it done.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then everything is up there. Go ahead and prove us wrong. If you went to the moon right now, you'd see all the things. But you're also full of s***. Because. Because I was later.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So I think that's probably the reality of the matter. We lied about the moon landing and this is f****** fine. Like, let's be real. Who the f*** cares? It got done.
Cristina: Yeah. But now they can't back off on their lie because then we're gonna be like, what else did they lie about? Yeah, well, definitely doing that anyway.
Jack: Definitely. The alien testing part.
Cristina: The alien testing.
Jack: Because they were like, yeah, we've been trying to contact and trying to. Like, they just said that recently about Area 51. Yeah.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: First it was. No, it's just for. First it was, Area 51 is not real.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And then I guess it is real. It is real. Like, okay, so didn't tell us anything. We already know.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then they're like, also, we got videos of things that are UFOs that we can't identify. And it's like, okay, f***. But like, we kind of knew already. And then they're like, yeah, and we run experiments here that might have to do things with aliens. Not to say we have aliens, but we run alien related experiments.
Cristina: Eventually they'll tell us they have a body.
Jack: Yeah, there's. They probably got a f****** body. And they're just inching. They're just little by little they can get there.
Cristina: When are they gonna just say so?
Jack: I don't know why It's a f******.
Cristina: Well, I guess we're more accepting over time. Like, would we have panicked originally? I mean, we were panicking. I don't know how this type of thing works. Like, you're trying not to get the people to panic, but they're already panicking from the little that they do know. And then when you finally tell them what they already know, they're not really panicking.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They have all the rights not to. We thought a bug that was more or less at the time that we found out about it, 100th as deadly as the flu at the time that we found out about it. And now obviously worse. But at the moment that we found out about it, this s*** that we've dealt with crap a million billion times worse. We found that about everybody in the planet panicked. Panicked, lost their minds and became irrational as f***. Started to beat the living s*** out of each other. Inside stores for toilet paper. Yeah, for f****** toilet paper.
Cristina: But they were told not to panic. They were told it wasn't as bad as it looked and etc.
Jack: As a result, we can't really trust the collective intellect of people and just be outright that we have aliens. I'm 100% convinced mass suicides on behalf of religious people is move number one.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Mass suicides. Life is meaningless.
Cristina: Ah.
Jack: Everybody kills themselves. So many. The majority of the world believes in f****** gods and s***. That just goes out the f****** window just instantaneously. Minus the ones resilient enough to be like, they're lying to us.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Minus that group of people. Everyone else who just believes everything a doctor and a scientist f****** tells them 100% of the time. No matter what the f*** it is, Those people just killing themselves, they're just gone forever.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We're avoiding that.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's why we can't just be like, there's aliens. Because people would just kill themselves. They've proven in the case of toilet paper that we're too f****** stupid. We can't really handle anything. We just tell ourselves we can definitely. And it's really sad, but we. Yeah. They're inching towards it just to see if we're ready. Here's a little something. We're like, okay. Here's a little something else. Okay. The less we react, the more they give us. The more we react, the less they give us.
Cristina: That's a great way to do it.
Jack: Exactly. Because they know. They gaze where we're standing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's the AI from Alien. Yeah. If it's really, really hard, they ease off. They're like, okay. But if it's too easy, they start throwing more just to kind of, you know, bounce it off.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: To efficientize.
Cristina: It wasn't just UFOs that they let us know. They also. There was like, something about elements that they didn't understand.
Jack: Yes. There's just things we don't get, period. A bunch of crap. Whether it be technology, Whether it be UFOs, whether it be things that should theoretically be on the periodic table orient, or just things. Just things. Little by little, letting that trickle happen.
Cristina: But no aliens yet.
Jack: But no aliens. As for the. The hollow moon because of the depth of these craters, that could not be figured out.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They did run an experiment in which they got a ship all the way up there, the ship broke into two parts, and then they slammed one of the ships into the moon.
Cristina: They slammed the ship into them?
Jack: Yeah. They crash landed one intentionally. Oh, just to see vibrate.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Scientists.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I mean, who else is gonna slam a ship into the moon?
Cristina: Sounds pretty crazy.
Jack: Yeah, it's an experiment.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So this is to test vibration to sound and whatever. And the weirdest f****** thing happened with that. The moon began to ring like a bell. Like a bell for an entire hour.
Cristina: Weird.
Jack: Yeah. They landed, they crashed, and then.
Cristina: I don't understand. Okay. But then none of these things make sense because this is all about how they're lying to us. But they let us see this experiment and hear about this crazy nonsense about the bell ring, the moon ringing like a bell, but they're.
Jack: You just associated two completely random things that aren't related at all. People will just ignore the fact that that was done.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Obviously, if they're showing us something, people are gonna be like they're lying. Okay, so assume anything they show us, people just think they're lying.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's just. There's no reason to connect the two. This is anything the scientists did and anything the conspiracy theorists believe unrelated.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Even though the scientists obviously have the same questions, these conspiracy theorists.
Jack: Conspiracy theories are filling up the fact that we don't have an answer for the question.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yes.
Jack: That's why it doesn't really matter. It's not this or that. It's kind of both.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But in doing that and smacking the ship into it, it started ringing. It rang for an entire hour. And the only way that could happen is if something is hollow, something solid would absorb the entire impact and not make a sound internally. But it was vibrating from the inside out. So theorize that. That could definitely. In trying to disprove it, they were like, oh, s***.
Cristina: And now they know, or not really. They don't know anything.
Jack: They don't really know why it rang, but it kind of supported the whole hollow argument.
Cristina: Is there a recording of the hollow ring?
Jack: No, I doubt it.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: It's probably reported and crap.
Cristina: Yeah. That's crazy.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah.
Cristina: That's very Alien what?
Jack: Yeah, it's freaking crazy. And the fact that it rang for so long, it means there was a lot of hollow.
Cristina: A lot.
Jack: They slammed something going crazy fast into it. Didn't penetrate too far. Obviously it wasn't going that level of strength to penetrate. Even if it was, it would have to be like the size of a giant meteor smacking into it. But no, it just left a giant ring.
Cristina: But if we saw a giant meteor hit the moon, would we be able to hear that ring? Or like, I guess if they were there to record the sound, they'd be able to catch it.
Jack: I believe so.
Cristina: Yeah, that's true.
Jack: But also anybody who's immediate. Then again, if it's not kicking up a bunch of debris and junk, because there is something stopping it, which seems to be the case, I guess, wouldn't be dangerous to be around there. You just have to sort of dodge getting hit yourself. And with however large this thing is, the momentum it's with, you don't want it to pull you in with it. Its force.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It'd be more complicated, I guess. We could have people there, we could have things there to record it. If we're lucky, it won't get destroyed. But, yeah, like it does. There's no harm of having something.
Jack: Yeah, you couldn't have. You don't want to risk just killing somebody for something dumb like that. But also, if there's a freaking meteor about to hit the moon, we got to get ready for, oh, yeah, like down here, we got to start making preparations. There's going to be meteor showers. There's going to be mass deaths. It's going to be crazy.
Cristina: We'll hide in the Hollow Earth, I guess.
Jack: But how long before enough of those s**** start causing earthquakes collectively because of the impact that's so consistent?
Jack: F***. Down there, yes. But out of all of these, like, crazy things, there's probably a billion more. But these are some of my favorite ones. I like the idea that there is a hollow moon and like the Mayans on Hollow Earth, that they, like, connected themselves to the matrix mode type of s***. I like the idea that on the hollow moon, aliens have connected themselves to some sort of matrix thing and have gone inward instead of outward. That's pretty cool. Maybe not all of them. Maybe that's just something they do naturally instead of exploring outward. They just, you know, live their lives in there. And it's like, hey, I'm going to the freaking arcade. And then plug into this virtual world inside. And they just do that for however Long. They want probably machines that new. Give them nutrition and crap.
Cristina: Do you think about aliens contacting humans and stuff?
Jack: That's a pretty cool idea too. Definitely possible. There is. One of the weird things we don't understand is why we became so intelligent, technologically speaking, around the 50s and expand so quickly. Now, when you look at our biology, we haven't, like, changed much since then. So that's a really interesting one. If you look at the past, we're very gradual evolvers. This part of our survival mechanism. We are really powerful at picking out what matters and writing that out. But there hasn't been a change since the f****** 50s and 60s, biologically speaking. That could just make us inherently way better at these things. And we had science for quite some time. We've had electricity for some time. For it to just suddenly happen around the time that we went to the moon, like, okay, that's kind of. That's kind of weird.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So there's some possibility to that. I do like the hollow moon idea that the aliens were there maybe for a very long time and then left. They were from Earth. Ancient advanced civilizations from Earth used the moon to then build the technology. Less gravity, and they can take off as a fleet to explore the rest of the stars. That's pretty cool.
Cristina: That's pretty cool. People, I guess, are rich. Using the moon as a getaway.
Jack: That's pretty cool, too. That's dope. It sucks that we're gonna be left behind in case of an emergency, but that's expected anyways.
Cristina: Yeah. Whether it's the moon or the Mars or wherever, they're just.
Jack: Yeah, they're bad.
Cristina: Nothing happens here. We're stuck here.
Jack: They'll all board an ancestorship.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So, yeah, it doesn't f****** matter.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's the same story. Every possible scenario. And I like how a couple of these tie up together. So they landed on the moon later. So the moon landing was faked. The moon was hollow when they landed. And there was life on the other side. The things on the other side are advanced a lot. Life forms that are watching us.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Additionally, we agreed to them. Yes. They gave us technology regularly for NASA and the government that they interact with. And then we agreed to shield them further as our technology got better with holograms.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So, like, we could tie all of these up together one way or another so they all function to some degree. The reasoning for some of them, kind of sketchy and dumb half the time, but it is cool that they can kind of function and be. Well, it is cool that we got there, but we lied about it first. And we did get there. We. We did get scared and didn't go back immediately, but did go back and communicate what was up there. And they gave us technology and we made packs and kept expanding and trading technology.
Cristina: So all the possibilities are pretty interesting. All the different ways this. All these things could work. Except for the moon not being there.
Jack: The moon not being there is f****** retarded.
Cristina: No matter.
Jack: Because we still have tidal wave. Not tidal waves. We still have tides.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that relies on the moon.
Cristina: Yes. Or at least something there.
Jack: At least something there. If. Fair enough. If the moon isn't there, something is there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And whatever that hologram is over is huge anyways.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because it has to be big enough to have tides on Earth.
Cristina: Yeah. That's the only problem with that one. And then everything else is fine.
Jack: Yes. Everything else works flawlessly.
Cristina: Or that. Then. Yeah. The whole Illuminati using money. Use. Getting NASA to make money or the fake moon or.
Jack: So dumb. There's no profit in that.
Cristina: No.
Jack: So dumb.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: Yeah. I guess that's kind of how that goes. And that's basically why you need to go find somebody to listen to the episodes with.
Cristina: Yes. To learn about weird moon conspiracies.
Jack: No. So that they get Stockholm syndrome. Listen to the episode, and then you kick them out. But then they're gonna be. Get really clingy. Exactly the same way the conspiracy nutcases do about whatever subject they're talking about.
Cristina: Oh, crap. That's what you're talking about.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. You like how I brought that back around? I know what the point of this episode was. It was to say that people are psychotic.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And you're gonna make one of them extra psychotic and then regret it.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: But you would have had listened to an episode with the listening partner.
Cristina: Mm. And that's the most important thing.
Jack: Yes. And if you manage to get all those things done, then you can tell them, hey, crazy person who doesn't want to leave my home, I have a gun. If you forgot, get out.
Cristina: Oh, yeah, you got that gun to remind them exactly.
Jack: They're gonna leave no matter what. And you tell them, if you're really interested in this show and more things like it. They have so many episodes. You can find all their episodes. Guy or woman or other gender of any type that you would like to say. Xyz, the alpha Alphabet soup member. Listen. Alphabet soup member. You can listen to more episodes on the moon and other things. You can find that on the official website. If you Want guy, person, person. They. Hey, they. You can find them on the official website greatthoughts.info you. Could they. You could also find them on any other podcast platforms, like Apple Podcasts, Spotify, pretty much anywhere you get your podcasts.
Cristina: It's very confusing if you just change what the pronoun that you're using. Like you say they, then you say you, then you say he, then you say she, then you just keep on.
Jack: Yeah. Just keep shifting it as you move forward.
Cristina: That's crazy. If you could do that. Try it. And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. On justcombopod.
Jack: Yes. And crazy person who doesn't want to leave my house. Remember, when you do listen, subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined. These guys are cool. They want your reviews.
Cristina: We do want your.
Jack: We do.
Cristina: We do. And let someone who might like this show know about it.
Jack: Yes. Crazy person. When you leave and you subscribe and you rate and you review after you've found the platform, which you prefer to listen to the show, that you're no longer gonna listen to it with me, you tell somebody else, here's a gun. There's no bullets. Because I don't want you to turn on me suddenly. But use this gun. And just how I got you to love this show and get Stockholm syndrome. Now you can go find. Find your own person to listen with.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: Do you just. What? What do they say? You pass it on.
Cristina: Is that what they call it? Yes.
Jack: Move. Passing it forward. Moving it forward.
Cristina: Moving it forward. Giving it forward.
Jack: Passing it.
Cristina: Giving it forward.
Jack: Giving it forward.
Cristina: That sounds right.
Jack: Some like that you something it forward. And now they're gonna go do the thingy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Then their Stockholm syndrome person has the same experience, and they go. And the community grows on and on.
Cristina: Yes. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye.
Cristina: So now you're a part of the church of Shaggy, though.
Jack: Yeah. Actually, if you think of the order of the universe, it began as disorder, as chaos, and order came out of chaos.
Cristina: So it was first track.
Jack: It was first.
Cristina: Yes. And in the order of things, Shaggy came first.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Unless something represents nothing.
Jack: Well, here's.
Cristina: Or not nothing. Whatever came before this first?
Jack: Yeah, there was some. But I guess that that makes atheos not the top top. We have to say there's something bigger. Call it the God reality.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then reality was there because it's potential. And then the destructive explosion. Something is that we don't know which that one is. Then out of that explosion, chaos happen.
Cristina: Happen, Mr. Saggy. Oh, chaos.
Jack: Crap is everywhere.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And as things begin to form through balance, because Atheos things begin to destroy in equal pace, matter starts to form, collides with other matter that starts to form and thus Shaggy slamming planets and stars into one another.
Cristina: So that's the work of both Atheos and Shaggy.
Jack: Yes. That leads to the eventual settling perfect balance of entire star systems and galaxies and clusters of galaxies.
Cristina: And that would be have to do with Spaghetti Monsters.
Jack: Full order. It goes down the line.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It starts at kek between the collective work of Shaggy and Atheos. It gets form and then from that form, that balance, you then find logic. Hypostafarianism.
Cristina: Yeah. Pretty awesome.
Jack: The unification of beliefs. It's pretty fascinating.
Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.