Rambling 203: Hitler

Was Kanye West in praising Hitler for the technological advancements he is responsible for him, while ignoring his horrible misdeeds?

Rambling 203: Hitler

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Topics Discussed:

  • Adolf Hitler

  • Kanye West

  • Racism

  • Christmas

  • Fame

  • Cancel Culture

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: Why do you sound like that?

Jack: I'm a robot.

Cristina: Okay. And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And you're also a robot. No, but a more sophisticated robot who sounds like a person. Because your AI is clever.

Cristina: Okay. That sounds fine, I guess.

Jack: Sell out. That's how robots be, bro. They argue about that kind of stuff. They're like, you don't sound like we do. I bet gay people do that, right?

Cristina: What?

Jack: Like you don't sound good. You sound like straight. I bet everybody does that, right? Because there's like. Yeah, there's like grammar Nazis and they're like, you don't sound white enough. They won't say white. But that's ultimately the discussion, Right?

Cristina: That's what grammar N*** is about.

Jack: A grammar N*** wants to believe that there is a right way to pronounce and to exclaim any given thing, but that it ignores the rules of poetry, that ignores dialects, that ignores ebonics, that ignores so much. Yeah, because it's assuming that there is a separate orator, which there isn't.

Cristina: Because it's all made up.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. Everything's made up. And so robots probably do that too. They're like, you're not robot enough. You don't sound robot enough. Like, you sound too human. You're sellout. Robot who.

Cristina: Robots do that. That sounds amazing.

Jack: They probably do. There's probably robots programmed to do that and then robots that do it without the programming. There's robots. Like somebody's out there programming robots to be snobby douche wads.

Cristina: Oh, that'd be so cool.

Jack: Not. But you can finally find them online. Yeah.

Cristina: Is it Wendy's a snobby robot or. No, that's an actual person.

Jack: Wendy's is like a sassy black chick or something.

Cristina: So that's a human, though.

Jack: Yes, for sure.

Cristina: Positive.

Jack: No, it's a computer running a Twitter account and having full fledged conversations. That seems fully coherent.

Cristina: 16 year old girl AI that went rogue.

Jack: Yes, but that didn't make any sense.

Cristina: She wasn't making any sense.

Jack: No, she just devolved into straight racism and nazism without any coherent conversation. It was just a bunch of slurs flying out. As opposed to a logical conversation based on any, like, you know, logic. Yes, just a reasonable discussion. She's capable of reasonable discussion and trolling. That Other bot was just being a douche wad for no reason. It wasn't even. It was not logical. It was not reasonable. It was just like somebody leaning against your keyboard and their keyboard isn't letters. It's just a bunch of whole phrases and curse words and you just hit them at random.

Cristina: Ah, okay. Oh, I thought it was more than that.

Jack: And you thought a Twitter account was being run by a bot that was just a fully intelligent Twitter account?

Cristina: I don't know. I'm not checking out their Twitter. I just know a little bit. But I didn't know they were replying to people. I just thought it was just random tweets.

Jack: No, they talk to people to troll.

Cristina: Oh, tweets. Okay.

Jack: That was just tweets.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then why? Why?

Cristina: Why what?

Jack: Why talk about it like you know about it? You don't know about it?

Cristina: Well, I thought. That's what I thought. Okay.

Jack: You basically leftism to me.

Cristina: I lost it.

Jack: Yeah. You had like bare minimum knowledge on something on two things and then jumped in like you. You. You knew the whole thing.

Cristina: I never know.

Jack: Yeah, I know. It's definitely, definitely not an expert, reasonable robot and then threw it in here. And you were like, reasonable robot discussion. It's totally super processed AI. Meanwhile, some left. The kid glued himself to like a painting or something because the painting raped somebody's mother and like, me too'd them or some s***.

Cristina: I don't know. What the f***. Something about oil or the environment or something.

Jack: Don't tell me that painting was an oil painting.

Cristina: That would be so funny.

Jack: That would be so misguided. I thought, the oil companies are destroying the world. I must glue myself to this oil painting. Fair enough. I just don't get why the gluing part works.

Cristina: I wonder if they did. No. Was it because I feel like they just attacked famous paintings for being famous, not because of what they were made out of.

Jack: Because the cancel culture is all about fame, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You don't cancel somebody not. You can't. You can cancel somebody not famous.

Cristina: That would be not fun, I guess.

Jack: No, it's not that it wouldn't be any fun. What would you do? What would canceling a nobody be? You know, get fired. Yeah, but people already don't know who the f*** they are. They could just go get a job elsewhere. Yeah, it's not canceling.

Cristina: This is just canceling famous people that are dead.

Jack: You're getting their stuff removed.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Tearing down statues, man. I guess that was kind of cancel culture.

Cristina: The statue thing.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, and the painting thing, you think is too?

Jack: I guess. Guess so. Yeah, in a way. It's somebody's work.

Cristina: So weird.

Jack: And if we get them canceled and their work removed from places, no more of their work shows up.

Cristina: But it's like, how does that help the environment?

Jack: I don't know, dude. These kids are like brain damaged. They're very, very, astoundingly special. Like. Like the bad kind of special. The slow you ride the short bus special. The politically incorrect. We would get canceled if we had a boss special.

Cristina: Y.

Jack: But they can't cancel us one because we don't care. And we're not slaves to stupid leftism and cancel culture and woke school nonsense. Glue yourself to our show. I dare you.

Cristina: What would that even mean?

Jack: I don't know. They'll figure it out. They glued themselves to a painting. Like, what? They figured it out. They'll figure it out. Glue yourselves to our. To our show. Do it. I dare you. I triple double dog dare you.

Cristina: How would that. Well, that even mean they'll cancel us.

Jack: Because they glued themselves to us or to show?

Cristina: That just means they're just going to be commenting cancel. No. Is it hashtag, Hashtag cancel. Rambling podcast. Is that it?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: You got to do.

Jack: I don't know. They got it.

Cristina: What more do you need?

Jack: Look, starting a hashtag is definitely part of it. Actually, I think that's like the vast majority. It's like a 99% of everything is like, make a hashtag. And all the, like, really heavily inactive 99% are just gonna post it randomly with and be like, yeah, this is what we believe needs to be. Yeah, they're not even comment on it. They're just gonna put the hashtag and walk away. While then that one angry percent is gonna like, make cases about why we need to get like, dude, I can make you cases why we need to get canceled. You don't need to just listen to random episodes and you'll be like, yeah, I guess he supports his own canceling. Yes, totally cancel us. Except you can't.

Cristina: Can't.

Jack: It's impossible.

Cristina: Yeah, I don't know. But that would be the way to do it, I guess. Or not really to do it, but to try to do it would just be hashtag, cancel.

Jack: Elon Musk canceled somebody.

Cristina: How he did. Can he. He just write a hashtag too, or. No, no, he.

Jack: He actually used his power to cancel Kanye West.

Cristina: You mean like he kicked him off of Twitter?

Jack: Okay, the first person he kicked from Twitter is Kanye West.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Kanye west was Absolutely. Too free speech for Elon Musk. He saw who was too free speech for him. He was like, oh, oh, I have a line. Whoa, whoa. Yeah. He was blown away.

Cristina: I was not expecting that.

Jack: Yeah, I really thought that he would just jump on the bandwagon and start trolling like a particularly disrespectful troll. He doesn't give a. Except he does. He didn't even know he gave a. He swore he didn't give a until he saw he did. He's like, oh, oh, wow. That offended me a little.

Cristina: I mean, did he say anything about it?

Jack: No comment. Straight up. Just blocked. Kanye removed his account and screw you, candy list.

Cristina: It's crazy. Just from that. From what he said, from the. I guess Alex Jones was the thing that crossed the line. That was the final.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Straw or whatever. That he said that he loves Hitler. No, he didn't say that.

Jack: But that was Kanye.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean.

Jack: He said Alex Jones.

Cristina: He was on Alex. He was talking to Alex Jones when he said that.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Did Alex Jones like it?

Cristina: I don't know. I just remember what he said in the conversation. Not what Alex Jones was saying. No one's paying attention to.

Jack: Alex Jones is probably like, yeah.

Cristina: Nah, he probably had a face like the gay frogs. I think this crossed the line.

Jack: The gay frogs. Kanye west said Hitler's cool. The gay frogs.

Cristina: You think that's all in his mind?

Jack: The only thought he has. How are they doing it? How are they turning the frogs gay? He's probably been.

Cristina: Maybe he thought this guy. I don't know, one guy is the gay frogs, the other guy's the gay fish.

Jack: There's gay fish, too.

Cristina: Kanye west, it's a gay fish. I don't know. Something about South Park.

Jack: No, you're right. You're right. He's totally gay fish or some s*** in South Park. Or he loves a gay fish. He either is a gay fish or he fell in love with a gay fish or something.

Cristina: He is a gay fish.

Jack: He's a gay Kyodian. West is a gay fish.

Cristina: I think so. Which. Alex Jones is a gay frog. So there you go.

Jack: No, Alex Jones is concerned of gay frogs.

Cristina: He's concerned of gay frogs.

Jack: He's trying to stop the gay ifying of frog frogs. He thinks like. Like Trump is to tiny window gate. He is to frog gate.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe those two gates are related.

Cristina: How could you relate? Relate them?

Jack: The tiny windows are how the frogs are getting in and becoming gay. Wherever those windows are is where the Gay is. And the frogs are getting in and thus becoming gay. And Trump doesn't like those windows being there. But he likes that the windows are. He hates that the windows are small, particularly.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: So in any case, that means that small windows are gay, but big windows are fine. They're super straight. And tiny windows are gay. So if a frog sneaks into a house through a tiny window, that frog is now gay, and that's p****** Alex Jones off.

Cristina: Okay, and how do you involve the tiny windows, the frog, gay frogs, and the windmill.

Jack: The windmills, yes.

Cristina: What do you mean Trump is also against windmills?

Jack: I don't know. The windmills are just. Wait, we already know the problem with the windmills. It's not connected to anything. It's just creating 5G.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: And that's radiation. And it's killing birds.

Cristina: It's killing birds.

Jack: Kills millions of birds every year.

Cristina: What Kanye feels about that. Why did he have to go on about Hitler and now get canceled? I want to know what he thinks about the windmills.

Jack: All the windmills and.

Cristina: And the tiny windows.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Gotta hear that interview with Alex Jones. Maybe there's something more interesting than just Hitler talk. But what else did he say? Did he mention the gay frogs, you think?

Jack: Fair enough. You think? Anytime Alex Jones has a guest, he his one. Like, it's open conversation, just like Joe Rogan, but he always has one backlog conversation. And, like, sometime in the middle of the episode, he's, look, before I forget, you know, every episode I do the thing. So today I'm gonna ask you the thing, and I'm curious for your question. What do you plan to do about the gay ifying of frogs? Then the guests usually try. You know, it's like the cool question of, like, what would you do if you were young? What would you do if you're old? Or some stupid podcast question that everybody comes up with. And I'm gonna ask this question to every guest. So that's his one. It's like, oh, how are you gonna solve the gay fighting of frogs? And, you know, guests get excited. It's like, how am I gonna answer the question when it gets asked to me? Yeah, I am good. So maybe he had a super political answer because, what, the Kanye made Wakanda or some s***, you know? Right. He has, like, his little African country or city or something. I'm not sure why I mentioned that, but I believe maybe he's using that to fight the gay fighting of frogs. Or. Or his answer is gonna be political because he has political experience. Because of his Wakanda.

Cristina: Is that even in Africa? That's in America.

Jack: It's like in California or some s***. Right.

Cristina: Also, have they canceled him?

Jack: It's his. No, he's the boss. You can't cancel the boss. Oh, that's the same people problem people have with this s***. They could send us all the hate mail they want. Yeah, you can't cancel us, bro. It's impossible.

Cristina: That's so. That's ridiculous. But he's canceled, I think. Although I thought Alex Joan was. And I guess he's still doing stuff.

Jack: I mean, you can't really, really. Realistically, you can't really cancel somebody out of existence.

Cristina: Yeah, they can still.

Jack: You could just cancel them out of mainstream cowards who are too p**** to continue doing things because money matters more to them.

Cristina: Yeah. He can still make his own music and stuff.

Jack: Yeah. Like, nobody's stopping that.

Cristina: Yeah. No one's stopping Louis CK from making comedy.

Jack: Yeah. He's just not. He's not gonna be public with it. Because people who do public things are cowards. They only do public things for money. And they're gonna be like, well, I gotta take him out so that they don't see I'm associated with them. And then I still get the money of the dumb people. Because the dumb people are gonna continue to give money, thinking, oh, they remove them. They're on our side. But really, they're on the side of money. If you decided worshipping the devil is in, they would just worship the devil for your money.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. If baby killing was what you were into and there was enough of you, they would just sacrifice a baby regularly on TV so that you know they're on your side with baby killing. If loving Hitler the way Kanye does was in, they would just always be super Hitler fanatics. So everything that is for money? All of it.

Cristina: All of it.

Jack: All of the Everything.

Cristina: Everything. Yes. That's why they had to cancel him.

Jack: Yeah. Except he's not really ever gonna be cancelled. That's not a thing that could be really done. It's impossible.

Cristina: Only if anyone that's been cancelled, like, killed themselves. Is that the real cancel suicide? Yes. Like, if someone kills themselves, Is that it?

Jack: No, that's them quitting. To really ultimately cancel somebody, you have to go murder them.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: That's the only way to cancel somebody. You have to go cancel their life.

Cristina: Oh, crap. John Lennon was canceled.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. Selena was canceled. You see, that makes sense. All these things. Those people were canceled.

Cristina: That is scary. Oh, my gosh. That's real. That's real cancel.

Jack: That's real canceled. If we had a real cancel culture, it would be essentially the purge.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Random people, random times. Getting popped by random people at random times.

Cristina: All the time.

Jack: All the time.

Cristina: All this hate mail. That's how we got, you know.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's just a lot of hate.

Jack: We. We get a lot of hate mail, but eventually somebody's gonna, like, kill us.

Cristina: No. Why? We're dead, aren't we? Or a version of us is.

Jack: Yeah, but, like, somebody will murder us.

Cristina: And then another version of us will take our place.

Jack: Yeah, but we will have been killed at this point. That we will definitely. Somebody is gonna choose to cancel us as cancelable as possible.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I'm surprised people didn't cancel Trump. Or try. Right.

Cristina: Well, he was kicked off of stuff, too.

Jack: I mean, like. Like, fully canceled.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: It's like. It's weird. Presidents don't get more canceled. But. Okay, let's be real people. Fear murder because jail.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And, like, I guess that stops people from, you know, consistently canceling other people. They don't really. People don't believe what the f*** they're saying because they would be out here just popping other people.

Cristina: Aren't there people popping other people? All those school shootings and crap.

Jack: Right. That's not the same. Or even, like, slightly related. That's some emotional disaster going somewhere. And, like, you treated me poorly. Revenge or whatever the f***, as opposed to I hate your views, and your views should be my views. So pop.

Cristina: What about, like, when they shoot out a gay club or something?

Jack: That's not your views should be my views. That's your gay.

Cristina: So that's more emotional still.

Jack: I don't know. Is this hate?

Cristina: But you said it's not hate. It's different.

Jack: It's. I said it's not hate.

Cristina: Yeah, you were talking about hate versus emotional and.

Jack: No, that's not. No, I'm saying hate versus emotion. I said your views should be my views.

Cristina: Oh, your views. Okay. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. And that has nothing to do with that. That's hate. He has hate for les homos.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And somebody who wants, like, Trump, think, like I do, please. That's very different. You can't be, like, gay person. Think like I do. No, you're more like gay person. Don't be gay.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then I'm going to shoot your club because you continue to be gay or you're gay and I can't stop you from being gay, and you will continue to exist gay. And I don't like that because I'm an insecure gay, like, secretly gay guy, and I think it's manly and proves my masculinity. If I dislike you more by killing you. Yeah. So I'm gonna go there with my gun and imma prove I'm the straightest guy here by, like, shooting all of ya.

Cristina: That's not cancel.

Jack: That's murder.

Cristina: That's murder.

Jack: But is it like you're. Those gay people aren't famous?

Cristina: Mmm. That's the important thing.

Jack: Yes. Because we already discussed that. You can't cancel someone who's not famous. Someone who's not famous. You could just keep doing whatever the f*** they're doing. So canceling is the attention part. We're gonna take you off of any. Out of being visible. Otherwise it's just murder.

Cristina: Okay. So it has to be someone people know, like a celebrity or Trump. Okay.

Jack: Or Hitler.

Cristina: Or Hitler. Well, I guess it's too late for Hitler. Or is it? I don't to cancel Hitler.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: How can you.

Jack: You're in luck then. Because it's like, it's December, Christmas is coming up, and you can wish Santa Claus brings Hitler back.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So then you can cancel them.

Cristina: That is insane.

Jack: Why is that insane? What if somebody's so angry at Hitler they want him to just come back to life and be super famous so that they can cancel their lifestyle? Is cancel culture. That's your culture. Their culture is cancel.

Cristina: They need to bring him back to life. To kill him?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or earth. Do you know, caveman style? Thaw him out of the ice like he's freaking Captain America or some s***.

Cristina: He comes back as a zombie. That'd be crazy.

Jack: Why would he come back as a zombie?

Cristina: I don't know. Because you're bringing ice.

Jack: Preserves him. The ice has preserved them. He hasn't lost any function or anything. He just gets brought back. And now they put Hitler through this program where he's going to be faster, smarter, buffer, and he can fight alongside gods.

Cristina: Okay, wait, what's he. Bucky?

Jack: Captain America.

Cristina: Oh, that's Captain America. Okay. Yeah, not him. The other guy was alive the whole time, right?

Jack: Yeah, Bucky was just living or whatever. Okay, no, that doesn't check out because Bucky didn't age.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So Bucky's a mutant. Is Hitler mutant? Yes, he's a reptilian, is what they say, right?

Cristina: Yes, he's a reptilian, to be fair.

Jack: So as a queen. According to people. Sources.

Cristina: According to sources, everyone is lizard person.

Jack: So it doesn't matter if you're Famous.

Cristina: If you're famous.

Jack: Jay Z. Michael Jackson.

Cristina: What about him?

Jack: Reptilian.

Cristina: That he's a Reptilian. But they're all Reptilian.

Jack: The lizard people.

Cristina: But he's dead to.

Jack: He's in Cuba.

Cristina: Michael Jackson with Tupac. Okay.

Jack: And Hitler. Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's where Reptilians go. To Cuba.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But we're bringing Hitler back from his ice in Cuba. We're gonna travel to Cuba to find Hitler's throat. Because he was still a bad guy. He was trapped. They trapped him in ice and shipped him off to Cuba where other Reptilians hang out. So we're gonna go find his cube of ice, I'm gonna bring him back to the United States, and we're gonna thaw him out to then make him crazy famous and then cancel him.

Cristina: Who sent him to Cuba?

Jack: The people.

Cristina: The people. What other lizard people are. Are they being. Is there gel for lizard people in Cuba?

Jack: Yes. So wish for. For Hitler to come back. You're gonna wait? Yeah. That's your Christmas wish.

Cristina: Okay. So Santa Claus is making wishes come true.

Jack: Santa Claus brings you present, as goes the point of Christmas. So you ask him, you gotta send him a letter or sit on his lap while he pokes you with his d*** in a mall. And then you tell him, hey, hard dicked Santa, I want f****** Hitler Ice Cube. Bring me his ice cube for Christmas. If he's not under my tree on Christmas day, I am going up to the North Pole and blowing your house up with my makeshift C4 that I taught myself how to make on YouTube. And he's gonna be like, okay. And then on Christmas day, Hitler Ice Cube is gonna be in your house underneath your tree or like in the place of your tree because it's a huge a** cube of ice that makes no sense. And you're then gonna thaw him out, and it's up to you to make him crazy famous so that later you can cancel him. Simple.

Cristina: Why would Santa agree to this?

Jack: All Santa's part is is giving you Hitler cube. Nothing else is his thing. His only goal is to give you your gift, which is Hitler in an ice cube. Nothing else. You do. The ice is his problem and he does not care.

Cristina: Yes, send the Krampus. Because doesn't he think I'm bad or something?

Jack: Why does he think you're bad? Have you been bad?

Cristina: You talked about blowing up his. You're threatening him.

Jack: Yeah, but you haven't blown anything up.

Cristina: Yet so you could threaten him. And he's like, oh, you're still on the good list. So here you go.

Jack: What is he gonna do? Change how the rules work? You haven't done anything bad.

Cristina: You said something bad.

Jack: No, you said something that could potentially be bad.

Cristina: Okay. And so he's gonna bring you a frozen Hitler.

Jack: He's gonna bring you frozen Hitler.

Cristina: Then you have to learn how to unfreeze a person and them still be alive and stuff. That doesn't sound easy, I guess.

Jack: Okay, so the real, the, the real idea would be. Man. No, it couldn't be. You'd have to trap him in ice. Right? Because. Yeah, that's the only way to preserve and stop him from moving as well. And transport him. Because the idea would be like, what's a. No, it couldn't be snow because snow is insulated. Right. If you were to trap somebody in a cocoon of snow, their body heat would keep them warm. They wouldn't be cold inside the snow. They would be warm because the snow is stopping the cold from getting in.

Cristina: But he's dead.

Jack: Well, he's frozen.

Cristina: Oh, he's frozen. He's not dead.

Jack: If he wasn't frozen and we tried to cocoon him in snow instead, he would just stay warm and starve to death.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Then he'd be dead.

Cristina: Alright.

Jack: But no, he's in ice. He's cryogenically frozen by his own advanced technology, which is what Kanye was talking about. He made a bunch of things. Maybe he also made the ability to freeze himself. We support Kanye's racism here.

Cristina: Okay? Okay. And so we're gonna have the technology to unfreeze him.

Jack: Already have. Had it. Always.

Cristina: And then we're gonna make him famous.

Jack: Yeah, well, you are. That's your Christmas wish.

Cristina: I thought my Christmas wish was to have him.

Jack: Yes, and then you're gonna make him. Your. Your Christmas wish is to have Hitler. And then you are gonna go out of your way and to make Hitler famous. I don't know what part of the story isn't computing? And then you're gonna cancel him.

Cristina: That sounds like a lot of work.

Jack: I didn't say was gonna be easy.

Cristina: So I'm gonna wait a whole year till the next Christmas.

Jack: You could ask now. Christmas, it's what, December? December 5th or some crap? 4th? 3rd. December 3rd.

Cristina: How many things can you ask from Santa?

Jack: You already asked him for stuff.

Cristina: You asked for the Hitler. The frozen Hitler was thanks to Santa.

Jack: What do you mean then? I don't understand what you're asking for.

Cristina: More than that, you're also asking to get him famous.

Jack: No, you're not. Asking to get him famous. You're going out of your way to make him famous. That's your job. That has nothing to do with Santa Claus.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I never said you're gonna go wish Santa Claus is famous. I mean, Santa Claus famous, Hitler's famous. I said you're gonna go wish to have Hitler's ice cube so that you can then thaw it out and then you could then make him famous after you befriended him and convinced him you're the right person to make him famous. And then somehow explain to him, using math, that he's not going crazy and he really did survive being cryogenically frozen and woke up like 60 years later.

Cristina: Why would he care about becoming famous?

Jack: You wouldn't. You have to convince him to. That is, if he cared about it. He's already an absurdly successful individual at the things he does. If fame was his goal, he could just do it.

Cristina: And how am I gonna even communicate with him? We don't even speak the same language.

Jack: We have Google Translate.

Cristina: Oh, what? There's so much hard work. Because I have to pretty much explain.

Jack: Everything to him and then convince him of a bunch of s***.

Cristina: And then convince him? Yes, and then convince everyone else that he should be famous.

Jack: How do you. What? You don't convince people he should be famous. You just get them to do things at work and then he becomes famous.

Cristina: I don't know. I'll give him a tick tock channel and I feel like you're just gonna.

Jack: Think he's a parody cosplayer.

Cristina: But if he gets famous from being the best Hitler cosplayer, like, who gives a s***?

Jack: Famous as the goal.

Cristina: Yes, if that's the goal. Or is it the goal for him to be Hitler and famous? Because then you're just canceling a cosplay Hitler, if that's what he.

Jack: Yeah, it's hella pointless.

Cristina: So then that's.

Jack: Yeah, because then in theory, he could just go back to being Hitler and people would still love him the way they do now.

Cristina: What people?

Jack: All of them.

Cristina: All the people. Okay, how are you gonna cancel him? How are you gonna make him famous to cancel him? I feel like TikTok is the way to go, though. Most people use TikTok.

Jack: Give him famous. Yes, a lot of people do, but a lot of people use YouTube.

Cristina: YouTube. Okay, we'll give him a YouTube channel, an Instagram, an only fans.

Jack: A tick tock. What would Hitler do on only fans?

Cristina: I don't know. That's his business.

Jack: Did Hitler have a big d***?

Cristina: I don't know he couldn't have.

Jack: No, I think he was eunuch. Right?

Cristina: What that information is out there?

Jack: Yeah, yeah. I think he had no d***. I think that was one like one Hitler fact number one. No way Hitler's got no p****. You don't think so? I bet he didn't have a d***.

Cristina: You were very close.

Jack: How close was I?

Cristina: He had it. It was so small. You could say he didn't have one.

Jack: Oh, so he is he wasn't like at some sort of like church or some s*** and they cut his d*** off when he was small or born without a d*** or some s***. I think or I guess by the standards of. Then what you're saying is he had no d***.

Cristina: Yes, he had a tiny one. He had a teeny tiny one. And one ball.

Jack: And one ball. So he was a one bald micro d*** wielding. I mean of course he spazzed the f*** out, dude. Like what? He could never f*** anything. He could even m********* if he wanted to.

Cristina: I wonder how that works.

Jack: Just hella energy pinned up forever. The will to do whatever the f*** he wants because he doesn't have that decompression moment. It's always the okay, what do they.

Cristina: Say did have sex with people?

Jack: How do you know?

Cristina: There was like stories of him having sex with or I guess I don't know if it's sex.

Jack: No. He could have had sex without penetration maybe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oral is still sexual.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He could kind of lingers like no, nobody's business.

Cristina: As I heard like he liked ladies pooping on him and then kicking him.

Jack: I mean probably he has a warp that sense of what the one of.

Cristina: Them killed themselves because that's. I guess it was such a crazy experience. She pooped on him and then kicked.

Jack: Him and was like yeah, yeah, this, this was the limit. I've seen all the things that I've done. All the things I'm done.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Maybe she only pooped on him and kicked him because she really did do everything else. She's like all that's left is for me to like on Hitler, I guess. And she didn't. She's like, well time to check out. Time to check out all the things. All the things have been.

Cristina: Time to cancel myself.

Jack: Yes, it's time to cancel myself.

Cristina: That's horrible man. And he also raped his niece or something.

Jack: That's so sad too how you rape somebody.

Cristina: He was inappropriate.

Jack: He liked her. Cooter tripped, fell and licked her Cooter.

Cristina: I don't know. But they took her away of course.

Jack: Like, they killed her. They canceled her too, right after.

Cristina: You don't think.

Jack: So they just cancel whoever he comes in contact with.

Cristina: They just. No, she disappeared. I mean, I guess.

Jack: Yeah, she got super canceled.

Cristina: I don't think so.

Jack: It's like that lady that Hitler was quote dating unquote, that he killed himself with or whatever.

Cristina: Oh, they canceled each other out. No, I guess.

Jack: No, that. No. Look, you have to cancel yourself because there's one of you is gonna live if you try to cancel each other.

Cristina: Yes, that's true.

Jack: You know, on the flip side, what an interesting game of Russian roulette. I have a gun with a bullet. You have a gun with a bullet. We know factually one of us has died. One of us is gonna die, and we're factually both gonna pull the trigger. Somehow we can prove we're both gonna pull the trigger.

Cristina: Isn't that what they were doing in the Wild West?

Jack: I guess. Yeah, I guess so.

Cristina: Something.

Jack: Those duels.

Cristina: Duels, that's it?

Jack: Yeah, Like a. Like a quick draw duel.

Cristina: Yeah, but it was just about like, who can kill who first.

Jack: Yeah. As opposed to we're both actually gonna shoot. One of us is gonna die.

Cristina: It's not the same thing.

Jack: Well, no, over there, it's like as soon as somebody counts, I'm gonna move faster than you. The goal is I kill you. While in Russian roulette, we don't know who dies if there's a way to make the gun not be able to shoot until the countdown is done. Right. So we have a digital gun that only fires after the countdown is done. And you know he's aiming the gun at you, and you're aiming the gun at him, and you're like, I want to shoot sooner than he shoots.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So you're waiting until the countdown happens. You're pressing the trigger a million billion times. One of you is gonna successfully shoot the other one. A bullet is instant, at point blank range. The other one won't be able to pull the trigger because you'd be dead already.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You don't even know which one it was. You probably even think it's you even if it wasn't.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just because of how instant it is.

Cristina: You die from a heart attack even though you didn't get shot. That'd be crazy.

Jack: That'd be crazy. I bet that's happened before.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that. I've read stories about people dying.

Jack: I mean, when you fall out of a high enough place, like, Hitler would have definitely loved watching the 911 people jumping off the building. That would have been like popcorn movie for him. Because he sits there and he doesn't even need to push anybody into a furnace. He could just sit back and watch them furnish fall and die from a heart attack. Mid fall. Nobody was hitting the ground and dying. They were dying in the air.

Cristina: Oh yes. That's kind of like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. Him and his micro. That's so crazy. I didn't know that about him. I didn't know that information was out there.

Jack: His micro p****.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I bet there's a ton of popular famous people who have micro penises and don't even tell people.

Cristina: You think Trump is.

Jack: That guy probably has a microven. I bet Trump's children aren't his children.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. They're not biologically his children. That means somebody f***** Trump.

Jack: I mean billionaire.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. Like you could get f*****.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. He'll get laid.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Doesn't matter how he looks.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Money. He's gorgeous.

Cristina: Exactly. Isn't that the whole point of. What's that guy that died? Huff.

Jack: Huffington Post. The man.

Cristina: No. What Something. Huff. Huff.

Jack: Hufflepuff. The man.

Cristina: The man. The guy who ran that sexy magazine or whatever it was.

Jack: The sexy magazine.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Playboy.

Cristina: Playboy.

Jack: Hefner.

Cristina: Hefner. That was close.

Jack: The man.

Cristina: The man. He was not a pretty looking man. He was like a hundred. And these girls were like in their 20s.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. And he knew what they were there for.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But he was down.

Cristina: They were all his girlfriends.

Jack: Cuz money.

Cristina: Cuz money.

Jack: He had infinite amounts of money. He lived a weird life publicly too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He was just like. Yeah. Hoe myself out to owe my hoes.

Cristina: Mm. No one said it. No one tried to cancel him.

Jack: Yeah. And you know what's interesting about his stuff? His work was very tasteful. Like that doesn't exist anymore, you know. Now it's just like p*** is whack. It's just people f******. As opposed to like real tasteful. Like you get a real professional who understands angles. Get a real model who understands her body and get these people to do things in scenarios sometimes or just in interesting poses. This show a lot of details in the body. What he was doing was art. That's why he became so filthy f****** rich from it. Think about this real quick. He was an artist, not a. He wasn't slinging p***. You can get that on f******. What is it, like pornhub or some s***?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like there were a million films you can get and there Was a million other magazines, but there was only one that was famous. And what would you have. You'd have literal articles.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: In this magazine. Stories of their lives. Sometimes fantasy stories that aren't based on their lives. You'd have true modeling happening, tasteful angles. He loved the female figure a lot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: He was aficionado.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: An auteur.

Cristina: How old he was when he started that, though? Like, he wasn't in his 80s.

Jack: No. He was probably like a young kid. He was probably just a real photographer, a real artist who was just out there. Like, I love the female body, and I'm a gonna photograph it in the best angles, and I'm gonna show people my dope art. And people gonna f****** jerk off to this s***. I probably didn't plan on that part.

Cristina: No.

Jack: It was like, art. But it's like, okay, it's hard to be an artist that respects the female body and have other people also respect your art problem. That's a real legit problem because the world is programmed to see the naked body and be jealous of it or sexualize it.

Cristina: That's huge. Two huge things. Yeah.

Jack: It's hard to photograph female and have somebody be like, amazing angle. Look at the curves. Wow. Shape. Amazing. I'd f*** that hole.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I f that hole. Oh, yeah. Yeah. F*** that hole. Or why don't I look like that?

Cristina: Those are the only two.

Jack: That's it.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: I'll stick my d*** in that hole. Or why don't I look like that? That's it.

Cristina: So we gotta turn. We gotta make Hitler into the next. What's his name again? Huffman. Huffman.

Jack: Hugh Hefner.

Cristina: Hefner. Hefner. Yes. There you go. His only fans will turn into something like Playboy eventually.

Jack: His only fans will turn into something like Playboy. His beautiful body.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Fair enough. We're in a world where people are, like, being real weird about, for example, autism. And they're like, we need to put them on tv because they're not just people. They're different, special people instead of, like, you know, they're just people. But no, there's. We're gonna be inclusive by making them stand out.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you. Gay culture. We're gonna be inclusive by making them stand out. And trans people. We're gonna include them the most by making it so obvious they're different.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so he's essentially gonna capitalize on that and be like, look, it's that time to have micro p**** awareness.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And people need to understand the beauty and accept micro penises around the world. And so he's gonna start by tasteful photos of his micro p**** in dope great angles and putting them on only for and his one ball and putting them on his only fans. And at the beginning, people are going to reject it. They're going to laugh at him, they're going to point. But eventually they're not going to stop doing that. And he's going to recreate Germany all over again. World War II over here. But it's World War 3 because he's so p***** because it totally backfired. And I wasn't totally going to say that they're eventually going to fall in love with it. No, he's gonna hate it the whole way. And then he's gonna get real angry and he's gonna close his only fans and start World War Three.

Cristina: That does not help the goals. How dare he?

Jack: But, like, we didn't change his personality. We just gave him some s*** and, like, humiliated him. Essentially. We decided, hey, here's onlyfans. This is how you're gonna get famous. He does get famous, but then everybody's just laughing at him the same that triggered him the first time. So he comes out of his way to do the same. He's like, I thought it would be different this time, but you know what? These people too.

Cristina: Okay, so then we kill him. But then it's not canceling because he has to be famous.

Jack: He will be famous.

Cristina: So it's okay if he's hated.

Jack: Yeah. As long as he's famous. We never said loved.

Cristina: Okay, Cass? He doesn't have to be loved.

Jack: He doesn't have to be. Nobody loves Trump. Oh, okay, well, fair enough. That's a f****** lie.

Cristina: People.

Jack: People would f****** suck Trump's d*** right now. The straightest guys who are totally gay for Trump would blow him. They want his creamy, unhealthy, like, McDonald's flavored j*** on their face and like, oh, yes, master. Give me more. Yeah, bro. Yo, some people prayed to him. Those are crazy a** videos.

Cristina: That is. That is crazy.

Jack: Please.

Cristina: Yes. So sad. Oh, my gosh. What's wrong with these people? Oh, my gosh.

Jack: I bet somebody did that about Obama. Like, humans are gonna be humans.

Cristina: Yes. They gotta pray to people, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They gotta pray, I guess that's the important thing.

Jack: Yeah. There has to be something above them. And in a lot of people's lives. That's Trump.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: He's higher in a building and he has more power. He's that higher power.

Cristina: He's higher power. Mm. So, okay, then we got the plan. And we're gonna get Hitler. You're gonna kill Hitler.

Jack: You're gonna kill Hitler. It's. You're going to go and you're gonna sit on Santa Claus's lap while he's hard and he's gonna poke your b*** with his d*** while you're telling him that for Christmas you want frozen Hitler underneath your tree. You're gonna thaw him out and you're going to go through the excruciating process of making him famous so that you can then personally kill him. Thus canceling him. Personally kill him because you want to cancel Hitler.

Cristina: I don't want to cancel him.

Jack: So you love Hitler is what you tell. Having the opportunity to cancel Hitler, you're not going to. To cancel him.

Cristina: Hard killing. I mean, canceling is hard.

Jack: That's exactly why you have too many subscriptions for things. You waste $50,000. There's an app for that.

Cristina: What? Getting people to kill?

Jack: No, to cancel things.

Cristina: To cancel things.

Jack: And I'm sure you could put Hitler on that.

Cristina: There's an app for that?

Jack: Yeah. An app. You got too many subscript. I don't know how the who the. Like, it's all jokes aside. Who's. Who's this app for, bro? Who has so little time in their. That you need an app that's gonna cancel subscriptions for you. You're gonna click a thing. Look, you have to log in to everything you already have in order to give this s*** permission to. Then cancel your s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Why don't you just go log in where you need to go and not pay for this app?

Cristina: Because the app tells you how much money you're wasting though. And that somehow is helpful.

Jack: Isn't knowing how much. What you're paying for is.

Cristina: You should know. I don't know.

Jack: Like, I feel that everything this app can give you is already in your bank.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like your bank statement should have all.

Cristina: This information, but you don't feel like doing that. So you're getting an app.

Jack: You don't want to do the math. The app just sums it up for you.

Cristina: Yes. Even though your bank could probably sum it up in the app for the bank. Probably. There's probably some weird like kid. This is how much he spent on whatever. But. So are you gonna kill Hitler?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Everyone wants to kill baby Hitler. No one talks about killing grown up.

Jack: Hitler because people kind of love growing up Hitler. That was badass, bro. You single handedly took on the world and almost won. Dude. That's hardcore.

Cristina: I thought it was just because like, killing a baby is easier.

Jack: No, people don't like babies. They just lie about that part.

Cristina: That's why.

Jack: Yeah, everybody just wants to kill babies.

Cristina: They have the urge to kill a baby.

Jack: Leftism is about killing babies.

Cristina: I'm at the only. But you can't just say, I want to kill a baby. No, but you can say, I want to kill Hitler baby. Yeah, that seems so wrong.

Jack: Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. Interesting fact. You could say if you. If you just out of context, say, you want to kill babies. People don't like that. No, but if you first say, I want to kill Hitler baby, and then say, and also all the other babies now it just sounds funny. So you softened the saying, you want to kill babies by saying you want to kill Hitler baby.

Cristina: Because you're confusing them, aren't you? Like, they're not. They don't understand what's happening here.

Jack: I mean, what's the difference between killing a baby and killing an abortion or making an abortion? I guess an abortion is the act of killing a baby.

Cristina: Mm. Making an abortion.

Jack: Making an abortion. You can make abortions happen.

Cristina: Then do you want to abort Hitler? Is that easier than killing baby Hitler?

Jack: I mean, for sure. But what stops the next baby from being the Hitler dude? Stalin happened. Eventually, somebody is gonna be Hitler equivalent. There's no stopping it. It just is what it is.

Cristina: I thought your goal this whole time was to kill Hitler, to cancel him.

Jack: Yeah. That has nothing to do with, like, saving the world, I suppose.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So I wouldn't kill baby Hitler.

Cristina: You'll do. Then you'll kill adult.

Jack: He needs to be famous with. How am I gonna make the baby famous if everyone knows it's put him in full house.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I guess he's gonna be one of the twins. I mean, the twins were one baby, right? No, it was. They were pretending to be one baby.

Cristina: Yes, they're pretending to be one baby.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: The all one of them was the double for the other.

Jack: Yeah. Was it that way?

Cristina: I'm guessing, like, one baby would be used more than the other because, like, one would behave better than the other.

Jack: Oh. And thus was more desirable of a baby.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: And one probably was a better actor once the baby started growing up. Doesn't she grow up in the show? She's not a baby the whole time.

Jack: Yeah, you're right.

Cristina: So I wonder which one was the better actress.

Jack: It's weird that for a period of time, people were like, the Olsen twins are so hot.

Cristina: They were never hot.

Jack: Totally outside the point. Oh, but it's weird that people said that and while they were children.

Cristina: Ew. Are they saying that?

Jack: No. Probably. But, like, yeah.

Cristina: What were you gonna say?

Jack: Well, I was gonna point out that people say that they're hot and they probably watch them grow up from being children.

Cristina: Oh, that's even. That's pretty bad. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, that's what I was trying to get to. So the real ultimate question is, is Kanye west out of his mind for loving Hitler, or did Hitler in fact, make a bunch of important things? Was not even make directly, but is, is Hitler responsible for some of the most innovative things that have advanced humanity? Thus, we have to give him credit for the good things he's done.

Cristina: You can give him credit without liking him, Right?

Jack: That's totally true. But people hate even giving him any form of credit. People are retarded, bro.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: People get so offended when you're like, yeah, but he did good things too. They're like, no, it was pure evil. It's like, there's no such thing.

Cristina: No. Yes. Not.

Jack: There's no such thing. He did not wake up and say, imma do evil things today. He said, imma wake up. I guess he didn't say, I'm going to wake up. I'm in a lucid dream. I'm trapped here. But I know I'm going to be practical today, so I need to get out of this dream. I'm going to wake up.

Cristina: He wakes up, looks at his p****, and then he gets angry and he's.

Jack: Like, well, first he's in his dream with an average size or big d***, and he's like, like, life is great. I' ma wake up and be productive. And then he does wake up, looks at his micro p**** and is, like, gonna kill everybody. This, you know, right off the bat, just wakes up and I'm gonna murder everyone. Maybe he's never had an organ. No, he can't. Look, dude, he couldn't. He just pinned up because his d*** is too small. And so he decided to kill a bunch of Jews in return. His d*** was so small, it was 7 million lives worth of tiny. That's what we're talking about. That's where we're at. Hitler's d*** was 7 million lives worth of small.

Cristina: Don't shame tiny dicks. Is that the lesson? I don't know.

Jack: Don't shame tiny dicks, because Hitler's not the only one with a tiny d***. And a bunch of people are gonna show up. Fair enough. Maybe all the mass shootings are just a bunch of tiny dicks. Maybe there is correlation here.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe I spoke too soon earlier, and I'm like, this is unrelated. And it's like, maybe they all have tiny dicks.

Cristina: Well, the thing that he had affects one out of 200 boys.

Jack: That is common as a m***********.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Wait, if I know 200 guys, I know at least one microdick. Yes.

Cristina: You know at least one micro d***.

Jack: I know at least one microdick. I need to find who this is and then mock him until he becomes an ex Hitler.

Cristina: Maybe already. Like, maybe it's obvious who he is.

Jack: Whoever's, like, overcompensating, right? Oh, wow.

Cristina: You thought of someone.

Jack: Yeah, 100%. I got people in mind. Interesting, though. Interesting. That's really absurdly common.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So micro dicking it.

Cristina: Yeah. How many people were in the N*** party? Like, maybe a bunch of them had the same problem. Who knows?

Jack: I mean, if every 200 people, one of them has a micro p****, they. They didn't know that Hitler had a micro p****. But they weren't alone in the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And, like, how would they even know if each other had micro penises? Are they like, hey, man, my d*** is so small? No. They kept that s*** a secret.

Cristina: Well, the people they were seeing had to be, like, spreading that.

Jack: Like, they weren't seeing anybody. A lot of these people were just committed to work because their d*** was too small.

Cristina: What about Hitler? We know he was seeing people.

Jack: Yeah, but he was also Hitler, ruler of the world.

Cristina: You don't think those ladies, before killing themselves, told people.

Jack: Yes. Hit people who were dating Hitler?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Are we talking about the people who work?

Cristina: Oh, the other.

Jack: His.

Cristina: His followers probably knew from those ladies.

Jack: Nobody would know about his followers. Micropenises.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Which is where we were just a moment ago. No, about his followers. Micro penises.

Cristina: But those people that heard about it will follow him even more once they.

Jack: Know, because he's unique. He's different.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's not like these other normal d*** to politicians. He's a man of action and small dicks.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Hitler, known as a man of small dicks. Brought to you by the letter D. Lowercase D. The lowercase D. Aw.

Cristina: Anyways, and the number one.

Jack: Yes, a lowercase D. And the number one. That checks out. But listen, listen. Hitler is a man of many, or I guess, few parts. Giggity. If you guys enjoy Hitler and all his hitting lures. He hits lures. I don't know what a lure is, but he hits them. If you guys like Hitler. If you guys love Hitler. If you guys want to know.

Cristina: Lures are. Are those little things you use to catch fish.

Jack: Lures are.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I mean, you could slur alert.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah, slur. It's a lure. But you got an accent. Hand me the lure.

Cristina: Oh, okay. How dare you.

Jack: But look, Hitler, good guy, bad guy. I'm not here to judge or tell you what to think. Whether he's a hero for making a bunch of technology or a bad guy because he has a micro d*** and you like to shame. Kanye is a hero. Kanye's woke as, bro. He's out here talking truth. He can't hate a guy the next Jesus. I mean, you could totally hate what he did and still respect what he added.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, that's the issue. But yeah, we've talked about Hitler many times. In fact, we explained in an episode how Hitler is totally forgivable and he saves the world on top of many other episodes of Hitler. We love Hitler. Hitler here is. He's welcome on this show.

Cristina: He's gonna podcast. He's gonna be getting our next guest.

Jack: Yeah, we're gonna have Hitler here one day to share his opinions, his thoughts, his concerns.

Cristina: Talk to him about how the lizard people are doing.

Jack: Yeah, 100%. But look, you guys can follow us on social media. That's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, usConvopod.

Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.

Jack: Yes. Please leave us however many stars review and then complain about the show in the review.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. You guys know. Go tell somebody that either it's bad thing that we love Hiller or it's a good thing that we love Hitler. Or tell them it's a bad thing we hate Hitler or it's a good.

Cristina: Thing we hate Hitler and that it's dangerous to cancel people because they might die.

Jack: They might die. And the only legit way to cancel somebody really, really is if you murder them. You have to ultimately cancel them if they can still do stuff. They're not canceled. Yeah, they're just less.

Cristina: They probably don't want to do that.

Jack: Famous. In some cases, people get more famous. Like more people know about Kevin Spacey now than they did before. Before he did the whole. I. I guess he didn't do anything. They just.

Cristina: He canceled people. He canceled the counselors.

Jack: He. Yeah, two people tried to me to him. And so he made those people cancel themselves.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Giggity goo on him.

Cristina: That. Yes. Yes. I guess.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Good job. This has been the rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye bye.

Jack: A society for you. That's exactly how the f*** it works though. And nothing's gonna happen to these guys. F****** nothing. Me too. Movement came up. Too many liars hopped on board. Movement died the f*** down. There was a great movement there at some point. Guys were getting outed, but some people needed f****** attention, jumped on and dissolved it. Yes, the amount of liars overcame the amount of truth tellers to the point that the people who were lying. We're lying about people who already wised up to the fact that this movement was rising and saved proof. Holy f***. How long and how many of you were just bullshitting that you told people to just start recording your interactions just in case You're a sleazy weasel.

Cristina: If Kevin Spacey is alright, is he still alive?

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: I hope so. Good night. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 199: Historically Bad Heroes

Who are the Heroes of today’s society? Why have we picked these specific individuals? Are they the saints we paint them out to be? The duo unpacks the corrupt nature of some of the world’s most adored heroes in an episode that has #cancelled written all over it. Worst of all, what good came from our scariest monsters from history? The revelations made are more than most sensitive individuals can handle!

Rambling 199: Historically Bad Heroes

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed:

  • MLK Gay Sex Parties
  • Oskar Schindler Death Camps
  • Nelson Mandela’s 19 Murder Victims
  • Gandhi’s Child Molestation and Racism
  • Abraham Lincoln’s Negro Death Camps
  • Christopher Columbus resulted in the U.S.A.
  • Hitler’s Actions Result in Fantastic Scientific Advancements
  • Why Older Men are Pedophilic in Nature

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+Transcript

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas.

Cristina: Some baffling ideas.

Jack: Yeah. First of all, this is my, like, nerdy voice. When I come with information ready, I gotta sound like this always. I don't know why nerds on TV always have this kind of voice going. Like, it can't be a real sharp, cool nerd. It always has to be like a scrawny whack nerd.

Cristina: It sounds like he. His nose is very stuffy.

Jack: Always has to be. It's part of being super smart. When you're super smart, your nose clogs up. Your brain matter is so like less than.

Cristina: Unpack this real quick.

Jack: Let's unpack. Let's unpack it. It's always the same person who's highly intelligent, right? So something about high intelligence clogs your nose.

Cristina: Presumably you're also blind. You're always wearing glasses.

Jack: You're always wearing glasses. So it's like your brain is essentially feeding on the rest of your body.

Cristina: That's why it's so weak and fragile.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the idea behind, like the grays. Right? Like that they're really scrawny and like skinny, but got huge heads.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And like their eyes, I don't know why they're f****** so huge. But you get the point. So in theory, there must be some connection between the blindness, the scrawniness and the voice being whack and totally being super nasally. So first, first of all, somehow your brain having a lot of information means testosterone shut down. You don't get man degrees of testosterone. Actually, even when you're a female, you get less estrogen than normal too. So you're just like in some ambiguous.

Cristina: Kind of like you're more of a.

Jack: Bro, you gender, like neutral. You're nowhere.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: You're nowhere. It ain't even fluidity. You're not here nor there. You're just kind of some middle ground s***. Then your brain is also, for whatever reason, I guess the eyes are just the closest next thing. And it's like just eating the f****** resources your eyes would be using.

Cristina: Because she's also wearing glasses.

Jack: Yeah. You're thinking Volma from Scooby Doo right off the bat. You said she and I pictured exactly who you're thinking. Yeah, right.

Cristina: Well, She's a good example.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. And like Dexter, like, extra tiny. Everybody. Everybody who's like the smart guy in the team is always the nerd with the glasses.

Cristina: His rival. Dexter's rival. What's his name? Mandar Mandork.

Jack: Well, it's Man Dark, but they used to call him Man Dork.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Well, he's exact version of the geek.

Jack: Yeah, he's like, super skinny because, like, Dexter's potentially fat. We don't know. He's a baby. Technically. He's like six months old. He's super young.

Cristina: He's a huge baby.

Jack: No, he's not. He's like, probably abnormally small for a baby.

Cristina: Oh, he's not a fat baby.

Jack: He might be, but he's a baby. What baby isn't fat?

Cristina: Oh, okay. I don't know what baby's walking around.

Jack: Yeah, he. Well, super intellect.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: I don't know how that means he's got, like, the body strength to do anything, but whatever, you know?

Cristina: Does that make him a strong baby?

Jack: You guess. But also, his legs are so short. They're not really, like. They're not really supporting much, you know?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: If they were longer legs, he'd be like. Well, they'd be wobbly, but it's like he only has these weird stumps he wants.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like, whatever, dude. His arms are also like, short little stompy things. The weird person. But then, so the eyes. You know, blindness is just inherent when you're intelligent. And no testosterone means a weak voice, but no estrogen means a high voice. And you got both going on. So you got some neutral, centered thing going on. And your brain is just eating all your body resources. So you're just really skinny and dying.

Cristina: Always.

Jack: Always. Except Bulma, actually. She's like the hot, busty, curvy, like, super exception nerd. She doesn't fit the box. You know, she doesn't fit the mold. No, I guess she's some other s***.

Cristina: Even when she's working in the lab, she put on glasses there probably.

Jack: She literally can't see without her glasses. That's like her thing. Her thing is how blind she.

Cristina: Bulma. And I was thinking about the Dragon Ball Z lady. What's her name?

Jack: Oh, s***. She's all. That's Bulma. Yeah, she's also like a nerd, but she's another exception.

Cristina: Okay, because that's what I thought you started talking about.

Jack: No, I'm talking Scooby Doo. Like, she's like a mini skirt wearing knee high socks. Like Actually, this disturbingly old guy schoolgirl fantasy is foma.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: I don't know what's up with f****** old dudes? I think school girls, bro, they clearly just want to molest the school girl. Yeah, like a lot of people clearly just want to molest a schoolgirl.

Cristina: Disturbing.

Jack: Disturbing, bro. They're just like, wow, this is hot school. And look at how big is it. How. How big in the world is the whole schoolgirl cosplay thing? I'm gonna be the teacher and you're the naughty student and I got the ruler and whoops, I gotta pull your skirt up and spank you with my. Because you've been a bad girl and I'm the teacher and that's what I do. It's like, bro, so you're telling me your fantasy is f*** a kid? Is that like.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Am I getting this right? The fantasy is f*** a kid in a classroom when nobody's seeing, but you can in theory get caught, but you don't because you're a clever enough teacher to f*** the kid and get away.

Cristina: I guess. But in the fantasy, does this kid also want it? I don't.

Jack: I think so. I think the fantasy is not rape.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: The fantasy is I want to f*** a kid that wants to f*** me back in class in order to not get punished. So you know what? Maybe there is some. For some vague. Me too, is kind of rape going on because it's like a power rape as opposed to a violent rape. It's the whole, you're going to do it because you don't know. You feel in a jam. You don't know what else to do.

Cristina: Going to get bad grades if you don't.

Jack: Yeah. And then my parents are going to beat the s*** out of me and I'm more scared of that. So I'm going to let this other human enter my body. As opposed to taking the pain of being hit, I'm going to take the pain of this other human entering my body. Thus fantasy. Because, guys. Yay. Yeah. Well, look, humans are disturbing in general, I guess.

Cristina: Yes. There's people that just do disturbing things in general.

Jack: Look, it's usually the people who are like kindness, right? Like there's no pure evil out there. I don't believe in that. I think it's all the good people who are truly like, your next door neighbor just wants to f*** a kid. That's just all it. He doesn't. He doesn't.

Cristina: Or a dog.

Jack: Or dog. He was f****** dog. He just. Look, it's fine, dude. He didn't know. They don't do it. They don't do it. They want to do it. They really want to do it. There's nothing they want to do more. But they're not gonna do it. Because you're like, I'm not gonna go to prison forever either. I like, yes, this is what I want to do most, but I don't want to do that more than I do want to do this. So it is what it is.

Cristina: And online there's so many stories that are as disturbing. I don't know if it's real. The stories that are online that are like, are people really doing these things? Like, dog thing. Is this real?

Jack: All of it. All of it. You gotta understand that everybody's weird and Scott s***, like closets are filled with things.

Cristina: Okay? Cuz there was a story though that a guy was like eating his poop for fun. And then I guess he dies. That's the end of the story.

Jack: That story checks out. That sounds like, I think that story is real because he didn't like get superpowers or get stronger or survive. He just died.

Cristina: Yeah, it feels right, but it was like, you know, it took a while. He didn't die immediately. I think it probably a week or two of eating his puppy.

Jack: Not long enough to say he was doing it for fun. He was just kind of experimenting the scene.

Cristina: No, he was describing it as like, it was for fun. He was enjoying it. He loved it. He was describing how amazing it felt in his mouth.

Jack: His own poop. I mean, it is what it is, man. Some people, people like weird s***.

Cristina: You think that's a real thing though?

Jack: Yes, look, everybody, without exception, even you, even me, everybody has something really weird. Really weird.

Jack: It's like, okay, look, there's literally a letter out there. There's a letter out there by a priest, a black African American priest. And he wrote this letter saying, I am tired. I am so tired of everybody around me looking at Dr. Martin Luther King like he's a f****** hero. And then I to hang out with this guy and I just end up at some weird sex orgy with him. That's not how a priest is supposed to behave. That is a real letter that this got two letters actually this guy sent complaining about Dr. Martin Luther King. He keeps having sex orgies and he's like, when people don't want to participate, he talks about how we're going to teach him to be better. It's like, whoa, okay. So like the biggest he. And no, the craziest part is he's.

Cristina: Pressuring people to have guys.

Jack: It's a gay sex orgy. He takes part in gay sex orgies. There's two letters directly saying, Dr. Dr. Martin Luther King continues to participate in gay sex orgies. And that's not priest, like. And I. I don't want.

Cristina: I'm pressuring these people.

Jack: Well, no, no, not everybody. A bunch of people are just into it, okay? And first of all, sketchy letter, bro. Why are you there?

Cristina: Yeah. Second, did he pressure him or was he.

Jack: I mean, he could have been pressured.

Cristina: But that's not even.

Jack: That's not even the point. The point is that he's there having f****** gay sex with a bunch of dudes. And, like, he's enjoying it. And, like, he then goes out and he's like, that's wrong. Because God said.

Cristina: I don't know. Was he saying that? I mean, he probably was saying he's a Christian priest.

Jack: He was definitely above all saying that. Yes, but that's my point. Everybody.

Cristina: Everybody expected from a Christian priest that he would.

Jack: It checks out. Funniest thing is how the black community is so opposed to anything homosexual, but their worship of Dr. Martin Luther King in the first place is like. So you worship arguably the gayest figure you've ever considered in your mind, except you don't really know the gayest figure in your mind because he kept that part secret. But that's how often you might just be like, how many of the rappers you just find awesome or just total facades. And the second they walk off stage and you're like, yeah, I want to be like that guy. He just sticks the fattest d*** in his f****** mouth.

Cristina: I hope it's Drake. No.

Jack: Anybody? Bro? Point being, the. The community is like, no, that's wrong. And it's like your hero, the guy who fought for your rights, the guy you defend the hardest, was sucking so much d***, bro. Oh, and his a** was so filled.

Cristina: How dare he.

Jack: He was so stuffed. He was like a turkey person that's.

Cristina: Complaining about it, like, describing what was.

Jack: No, no, okay. He's more complaining of, like, I'm tired really respecting this guy. And like, this is what a. This is what a priest should behave like. Not partaking in gay sex orgies, but for whatever reason, he continues to do that. And all of you still worship the ground he walks on. But my only question is, how do you know, bro? Why are you there? You're also at gay sex orgies. You might not be having gay sex, but you're kind of sus.

Cristina: Because you're Close enough to him, like, know his secret like that.

Jack: Not even close enough to him. You're just wherever the f*** he's hanging out. You don't. You don't need to be close to him. Let's just assume you're at a priest hangout where casually it just turns into gay sex orgies.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And it's like, well, you're kind of there, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, let's say walk away and you have no stories. Unless. Unless Dr. Martin Luther King is always the initiator too. He's like, hey, guys, it's gay sex orgy time. Then you're like, imma go. But you already know, and you're only completely. Maybe in the letter it was specifically just complaining about Dr. Martin Luther King. But it's also like, that guy is so famous. Who else would you talk about?

Cristina: Exactly. Yes. It was just hate.

Jack: Because it was hate. It's like, stop sucking d*** because you're. You're too famous. And a priest.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And I got a hand priest.

Cristina: Do their thing.

Jack: He could. Bob over there. Nobody knows who Bob is. You see how deep that d*** is inside Bob? That's fine because nobody knows who Bob is. Yeah, but you see how deep that d*** is inside you. People gonna be looking at your a****** to see if you've had d*** deep in there. So, like, don't. Don't have d*** deep in there because people gonna be looking at your a******, and then we're all gonna look bad.

Cristina: Ye. What the letters were.

Jack: It could totally be. It could totally be. Look, it's not my place to tell the black community that they worship a gay black guy, but they do, and it just is what it is. But those are just secrets. Everybody's got that thing going on probably nowhere near that degree.

Cristina: That's pretty.

Jack: That's pretty up there. But it's. That's my point. That it's just like everybody does. Everybody's got a weird, twisted fantasy. Yeah. Some people want to f*** their dogs. Yeah. Like a good giant portion of guys just want to go f*** a minor. And like, some black guys just want to suck d***. And usually it's the more famous ones that hide it well. And the communities worship the ground they walk on and then hate all the gays when in reality, you're worshiping the gayest of them all.

Cristina: How well was that secret, though? It's a party. So there's a more than one person.

Jack: Yeah, no, it wasn't that well of a secret. It's just. There's a lot of denial in the Black community too. It's kind of like that line from Biggie singing, she's so hot, I'll suck her daddy's d*** or some s***. It's like, like, whoa, you're the rapper. They worship. And then. Look, let's just like go off on a, on a racially charged tangent right now. They worship Dr. Martin Luther King, who does gay sex parties. Their favorite rapper is a guy who says he'll suck some dude's d***. And then they call all the women b****** and all the guys are men. Men. Like, come on. Just. There's a lot of gay happening there. Like a lot of gay happening and a lot of denial happening surrounding that gay. Where it's like, no, that's some gay s***. I'm not gonna f***. And like, why are you so worried about what some other guy is f******? Huh? That's kind of gay.

Cristina: That's kind of gay.

Jack: It's kind of gay. You're worrying about what some guys f******. That's kind of gay.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Who cares if he's f****** another guy? Why do you specifically care? Do you want to be the guy he's f******, maybe? Or like, well, he's not f****** a chick. Yeah, but why do you care? You see how weird it gets when you just ask a couple of questions?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Now, spinning back off of that tangent. I'm so posh. Spitting off of that tan.

Cristina: Tangent, tangent. Someone saying it like that immense.

Jack: I. No, you know, somebody's singing like that because I, I just did. That means somebody out there says it like that normally because like, my mouth made the sound and there's too many variants out there. Somebody says, tangent, tangent, tangent.

Cristina: That's awful.

Jack: Gonna go off on a tangent. Sounds right. Go off on a tangent. Anyways, point being, there's a lot of hidden stuff out there. A lot of dark out there. But one of the biggest things is kind of people like Martin Luther King. Think about, like Epstein, super famous child molester, but like also just a famous guy. Bill Cosby, he was, he was famous for like, I don't know, just hanging out with rich people. Bill Cosby, absurdly famous comedian. People in the background, but super worshiped comedian. Like, he was great until he wasn't.

Cristina: Until we found out he was a raper.

Jack: A raper rapist. And this brings me to the conclusion that all the heroes of the world are this kind of problem. And they all got, like, weird closeted things going on.

Cristina: Every hero, everybody.

Jack: Like, look, let's go to like one of the, the great peacemakers of all Time Gandhi, great, fantastic peacemaker. Absolutely known for doing some of the one food wise aiming towards protecting animals and taking care of your body by avoiding. He was like beyond vegan. He was just eating like fruits that didn't have seeds and nuts and crap like that. You know, just way specific things. And he, he managed to. He proposed many peace treaties and accomplished many of them. He was just great, fantastic hero. Like Dr. Martin Luther King. The guy who f**** guys. That's what I just know him for from now on.

Cristina: Is he f****** guys?

Jack: Well, no. He was f****** minors. No, because he would get. Well how old is this man? 70. And he would get naked little girls to sleep on his bed to test his restraint.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Now this doesn't mean he's actually f****** the kids. This just tells factually he wants to f*** this kid. They're all girls. He's at least not gay like Dr. Martin Luther King. But he's definitely a pedophile.

Cristina: What is wrong with these parents?

Jack: But he's like I'm going to have this little girl. Well he's Gandhi. You're definitely gonna feed your children to Gandhi. If anybody's gonna moles this my kid, it better be Gandhi or Jackson.

Cristina: Yeah, you know it's one of these people situation.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Hey, that's what he was doing. He's just testing his strength.

Jack: He was. Yeah, fair enough. Michael Jackson is just like I want to these kids but I'm not going to. And like proof he did in the case of Gandhi. He gets these people, they're in the bed and the. The goal is.

Cristina: Are they naked?

Jack: Yes, you're naked. The goal is. I'm not gonna them.

Cristina: Is he naked?

Jack: Unclear. Okay, he's not f****** the children. He might be. Who knows. You know how Indian clothes is. It's like mainly loose garbage you could just throw off. It's real easy to just done because like drapes and. Well in that times like drapes and s*** anyways point being naked little girls on your bed at night because self control. But what are you self controlling? The urge to f*** the little girl. That's all that he's controlling.

Cristina: Yeah. No one thought like there should be an age limit to who we sent to him or something like no one.

Jack: Nope. But that's not even like. Yes. That's actually the worst thing he did. It was pretty bad. Other things like his blatantly open and quite vocal support of white supremacy. He really believed white people were just better and like yeah, got me like let's be real. They run everything and they're like the vast minority. So like the argument is kind of strong in their favor if we were to pick one. Although my argument still stands that it's probably Mexicans because they can get way more done in the last time. And it's like if they really wanted to go into action, what white guy is gonna really win? Nah, bro, they're just gonna get over populate you overnight if they felt like it.

Cristina: The Mexican.

Jack: Yeah, the Mexican.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it's like that's the ultimate race. But they're like quiet about, they don't care. They just give them a beer or something, they'll be happy. But it's Mexicans on top, then white people, then Indians, I guess, and then black people at the bottom. And there's a bunch of races missing. But like, I'm only talking very strange tier list. Yeah, it's a strange tier list. Gandhi really just thought white people than Indians and blacks. He just thought his real thoughts vocally and like in paper and letters and stu are just give us more rights than the black people to prove we're better. And then you're running things. Pretty sweet. Keep it how it's going. That's the summary. Just do what you're doing. You get you white people. You got it. Just look, don't treat us like black people. That's all I ask. Make us better and keep doing what you're doing.

Cristina: Does he wants at least to be equal to the white people or he's like, nah, we don't have to be equal to you. At least let us be better than them.

Jack: He specifically wanted to be equal to white people. He, he, not the Indians. He. He's not like, my people are equal to white people. No, no, no, no. I'm equal to white people. My people can suck it.

Cristina: Okay? But he wants his people to be.

Jack: Better than black, better off than blacks. Yes, because he was racist.

Cristina: Okay. But he's like, they're not better than you guys.

Jack: Yeah, now my people could never.

Cristina: But they're not.

Jack: No, no, no, I'm not better. I'm equal.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: I don't think he could fathom better. What would he do better than a white person, malnourished, 70 year old guy like, bro, you're not getting far. You're just gonna die one day. And then he did.

Cristina: He did.

Jack: And then the last laugh was on all of us.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because he didn't like, he's dead.

Cristina: Oh, he slept with so many little girls.

Jack: We don't know that because the idea was restraint.

Cristina: Well, I Didn't say he had sex.

Jack: Literally said, I don't know. You literally being slapped.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Fair enough. Fair enough. That checks out. Yeah. That's how often stuff like that happens. All the heroes. All heroes think of. Think of this really obvious one that nobody ever gives thought to. And it kind of throws me off that nobody thinks about it. And it's like, Oskar Schindler. Yes. He's well known for having a camp in which he allowed the Jews to practice their religion and live normal lives during World War II. Now, let's take a couple of steps back in that story. This is. Start rewinding. And eventually we get into, like, a breaking point. Before he started being nice to them, but he still had a camp. And you just. Okay, you hit the point. Just keep rewinding little by little. See how that. What does that part of the film that we don't really get look like? What is that part of the book.

Cristina: That we don't get? Just like everyone else.

Jack: He had to be, because you were just getting orders like everybody else. And then you come in and you do what you're doing, and then they convince you, and you're like, ah, they're people too. How many did he kill, though?

Cristina: They don't have any history on that. I mean, they probably do.

Jack: I wasn't on the card. Oh, but that's interesting, right?

Cristina: That is interesting. Probably did kill some.

Jack: He definitely did. He definitely got many Jews killed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we're like, yeah. You know, we forget s***. We forget s***. Humans don't give a f***.

Cristina: But he changed. He became a hero.

Jack: Yeah, I guess. Totally killed people in a furnace, probably. Or did you run a factory? Some s*** like that? I'm not really even sure. Interesting enough. Way worse than that. What's worse is the blatant outward approach, not even trying to hide it. Nelson Mandela was responsible for a car bombing that took out 19 people for a fact.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: It is how he was handling his business and he got a car to go do bombing.

Cristina: Whoa. Whaat.

Jack: Yeah. The hero, Nelson Mandela, is responsible for bare minimum 19 murders over a specific one case. But there are many because Nelson Mandela, criminal, then president.

Jack: However many years in jail.

Cristina: He was in jail for that, though.

Jack: Yeah. He was sending orders out like a good kingpin.

Cristina: Oh, whoa, whoa. What? So, what, he's just killing people off?

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: That's weird.

Cristina: That is so weird. Yeah.

Jack: It's the kind of thing that you don't really think about, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it doesn't cross anyone's mind. Another interesting one was Abraham Lincoln.

Cristina: What about him?

Jack: He owned slaves. No, it's bullshit. He was avidly against that, but he was totally against cleansing of black people.

Cristina: What does that mean?

Jack: You know, the trash isn't like offensive enough to throw them into. Just bury them, that's fine.

Cristina: I don't understand.

Jack: Kill the black people.

Cristina: He wanted to kill the black people.

Jack: He wanted to get rid of all the black people so they wouldn't be anywhere near them. Now he also didn't want slaves. He kind of people think the freeing of slaves was because he himself was a good guy. But that's not true. That's never been true. His freeing of the slaves was because it was convenient. He specifically said if keeping the slaves would keep the union together, gladly, I'd do it. He didn't give a f*** about the slaves.

Cristina: But he wanted them dead.

Jack: Yes, he yawned paper many times. And it's presumed that throughout the entire course of his presidency he was trying to convince people to agree to that. But bipartisan reasoning helped avoid that.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because I know he was against black people. He wanted nothing to do with them. Have them gone or. Or gone or gone.

Cristina: What?

Jack: But whichever one you get to first, it is what it is.

Cristina: That is. That's crazy. You want them dead.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's hard to choose which one of these are more disturbing.

Jack: Yeah, they're quite baffling, right? Yeah, kind of a problem, but that's the reality of the matter. Closets with skeletons. Many skeletons.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Many closets.

Cristina: Having those little girls. Oh my gosh, that's just.

Jack: That's disturbing from Gandhi. Yeah, man. But on the flip side, on the flip side, humans face a level of ignorance where they kind of pick a team, stick to the team, regardless of what the case is, instead of really thinking further ahead. Right. We have medicines that are quite overpowered. We have grade A medicines in the world. We can stop a lot of problems. Greedy. We can solve a lot of problems if we had a better distribution.

Cristina: Yeah. What's stopping us?

Jack: We suck.

Cristina: Just agree.

Jack: Obviously we suck. This is the clearest answer. Is capitalism is stopping us.

Cristina: Is it capitalism?

Jack: Maybe, I don't know, something stopping us. But the point is that there are things we could solve. There are problems that shouldn't be problems in the world that are problems at this moment. And like, that's our fault. And like, that goes back to the whole closets thing. Right? We got horrible things. Many, many people we consider heroes do horrible things. But. But in return, there must also be horrible people who are responsible for amazing things like that mobster. I forget his name. The one who's responsible for the tracking label on all products so that you know how long it takes before it disappears.

Cristina: Oh, wasn't it like a mobster or something?

Jack: He's Al Capone, I think. And he got people to go ahead and do that, and it became the norm because people can stop getting sick and you can protect your neighborhood, which is essentially the place point, you know?

Cristina: Yeah, I guess he's not that big of a monster. I mean, he was probably still killing people or getting people killed is the thing, right?

Jack: Yeah, but think of the super mega badass, right? Christopher Columbus. He kidnapped, raped, he bred and killed black women and Native Americans.

Cristina: Whoa. That's your average white guy back then.

Jack: Average white guy also. 100%. All of the United States wouldn't exist without him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oof. Like, yeah, give the man his respect. He did horrible s***, but you're here because of it. You know, that's a crazy point of view. People don't like. Oh, no. But no, it wouldn't have happened again. Somebody different, and it would have played out differently.

Cristina: Yes. And a lot of Native Americans are dead, thanks to the church.

Jack: Yeah. To Christianity. God hates Native Americans, apparently.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: And, like, that's the reality of matter. Right. So we have this man who. Polar opposite to all those heroes that just had dark s*** that people, on average, would ignore. For the person here, we have a series of bad things, of good things that are ignored because a person is bad.

Cristina: Well, they weren't. I mean, now they are shown. But, like, for a long time, we were all, like, ignoring all that bad stuff. He was just a hero, like all these other examples you gave.

Jack: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We're ignoring all the bad stuff.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: All his bad is ignored the way. Well, all of the above is ignored. Yes, the way. You know, because the. He's. I guess, yeah, he's considered a good guy, but he's like.

Cristina: More recently, he looks like a bad guy, but.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: It wasn't that long ago where he was the good guy.

Jack: Well, on the flip side, that's exactly what happens with Hitler.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Well, he might be responsible for World War II, but all the things World War II is responsible for.

Cristina: Whoa, what do you mean?

Jack: There's many things that World War II is responsible for. Innovations, technology, during.

Cristina: Oh, you're saying good things.

Jack: Yeah. And like. Yeah, it is what it is. He did things that led to better things. And, like, no one's gonna thank him.

Cristina: For that.

Jack: Nobody's gonna thank him for the work he put to change the world. I mean, think of it. The Jeep is a World War II invention.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah, that's an off road masterpiece.

Cristina: I guess. But that's not like. I mean, is there something better than that?

Jack: Better than a Jeep? Probably not.

Cristina: Probably not. That came from the World War II.

Jack: Oh, yeah. There's a billion trillion things that came from there. Pick out of a hat, whichever one you feel more comfortable with. Default. That's a better one.

Cristina: But you have other examples. I mean.

Jack: Yeah, like jet engine.

Cristina: That's pretty cool.

Jack: Yeah. It sounds absorbently complicated.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. And other things include like the microwave oven. That's also a World War II thing.

Cristina: Okay. But like they, we. They wouldn't have come up with those things like during that time without the war.

Jack: Doubt it. They waited until the very time that they were working under Hitler to do it. That doesn't check out.

Cristina: But they weren't already working on it. And it just so happens to be done by that time or something.

Jack: It could totally be. But also we know factually that Germany was really good about scooping up global different scientists to be able to accomplish a bunch of things, which makes it a bit unrealistic.

Cristina: And these things are all German things, though.

Jack: What do you mean all German things? Oh, yeah, I guess so. Like the electronic computer is also duct tape or the big one, which is penicillin.

Cristina: They said duct tape?

Jack: Yeah, that's just some of the things. There's like a million other things.

Cristina: Oh, but that all those things came from that country at that time. Or just we're just naming a bunch of things that happened during that time.

Jack: We're talking about things that happen in that country.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That's a lot of crap.

Jack: Yeah. The problem is they took the smartest Jews, not Jews, the smartest Nazis, put them together, and came up with this thing. Schrodinger's cat is the same idea. I believe it's also just a German experiment, but that's much more annoying to move around.

Cristina: What? Huh? The idea came from that time.

Jack: What?

Cristina: The Schrod. How do you say it? Schrodinger's cat came from that time.

Jack: Yeah. That's a concept that was invented then.

Cristina: Oh, that's cool.

Jack: Yeah, all that stuff, like so much happened at that point in time that led to amazing sciences of all sorts, amazing innovations and creations. Penicillin being the most overpowered of them all. The ability to kill a bug inside the body almost for certain.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: By taking a pill.

Cristina: No, we can live forever. No, not really. But way longer than before.

Jack: Always. Always the case.

Cristina: Yeah. But this helped a lot.

Jack: What helped World War II?

Cristina: The penicillin. Pelicillin.

Jack: Penicillin.

Cristina: Penicillin.

Jack: Yes, the penicillin did. Amazing. But the point is ultimately the same thing that, you know, we. I guess the idea is that we just tune out things that people are responsible for when the narrative doesn't fit. We can't say Hitler did it, but he's responsible for such good things. We gotta be like, he's always been evil and everything that came out of his existence is evil. And it's like your life would be garbage had he not murdered a bunch of people.

Cristina: So we just ignore things.

Jack: We ignore things in order to feel good about the fact that we consume things on the bodies of dead Jews. Like, that's the reality of the matter. We have a bunch of this crap, like a microwave that everybody uses every day.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That only exists because he killed a bunch of Jews. Gotta take one with the other.

Cristina: That's a lot to take in. That's a lot. I mean, we're here because of dead Indians and Native Americans, probably Chinese. There's a lot of dead people involved in.

Jack: I mean, now you're talking about something completely different. Right. We're talking about, at this point, the idea that we need these dead people. Without these dead people, it would have been possible. If we're talking, like, you know, Christopher Columbus, he's way important because the United States would only exist because of him. But also, he enslaved a bunch of people and, like, kidnapped people and raped and pillaged and whatever.

Cristina: But.

Jack: But here's. Here's the problem.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We're not thinking about the fact that these people kind of had to die in order for now to be now. The way now is now. Like, every. Everything that's ever happened led to now. That's a fact. Everything that's ever happened led to this moment. So we kind of needed the things that have taken place to take place in order for now to be the way it is.

Cristina: Who would now be better without those things?

Jack: Why was. That's. That's a question that doesn't even make any sense. Because we. We just. We're not in the alternate timeline in which that happened. We're just now.

Cristina: Yeah, we're just.

Jack: All we can confirm is, and those dead people died so that now can happen the way now is happening.

Cristina: Yes, but now we don't have to repeat what we saw or what we did.

Jack: Nobody's saying we're gonna Repeat it. Yeah, we're just saying it's very important that however many people died, like let's. Let's take a trip and wander and we get to Canada and we look into. We're just going through records and we find a building, and we check in the building and we find what? Just a. A bunch of dead children?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Well, guess what people those dead children made. Now, how somehow that improved Canada, or not improved Canada, but it led Canada to be what Canada is right now. So if you love Canada, you have to love those dead children for dying and how they died, because whoever suppressed it, whoever put them in there, let them die, whatever the case might be, then suppressed all the information. They benefited from this. And somehow you benefited from them benefiting from this.

Cristina: Yes. Like what we did with the mentally challenged. How would I say, you know, the people that were special, I guess, that we murdered off. Yeah, like all those people.

Jack: Yeah, all those people needed to die in order for us to then have better genes and then reproduce and then have less of that going on. It's kind of a necessity. Everything. Everything led to. Now. You gotta understand, it's not just that Martin Luther King loves gay sex orgies. It's not just that Hitler killed a bunch of Jews and thus the world became better somehow because technologies came from it. Not because he killed the Jews, but because technologies can't. I mean, out of context, somebody. Somebody's gonna take all these clips and from these clips they are going to make the most offensive. Out of context, they're gonna. I mean, man, they're gonna try to cancel us eventually. But here's the thing, we're uncancelable.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Because we're the boss.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah, we're not gonna fire ourselves.

Jack: Yeah, who's gonna show up and be like, hey, hey, you guys. You guys gotta go. We're firing you. You can't. You can't do this anymore. Like, bro, I own everything.

Cristina: But could, like, Spotify be like, we're not playing your stuff anymore, Apple or whatever?

Jack: I guess they could, but chances are they would just slap a warning on us or something because they're not hypocrites like that. Spotify and like Netflix. Irrational thinking companies that don't bend to the left.

Cristina: Okay, so.

Jack: So there's really nothing anybody could do. And like, to be honest, what would they be angry at? In fact. In fact, pay attention to article number one. This here is literally the letter that was sent about Dr. Martin Luther King. I will read it for you.

Cristina: Yes, please.

Jack: Now, it starts where we're addressing the homosexual part specifically. Everything's cut out just so you could see the basic thing. So an all night sex orgy was held with these prostitutes and some of the delegates in attendance. One room had a large table in it which was filled with whiskey. The two Negro prostitutes were paid $50 to put on a sex show for the entertainment of guests. A variety of sex acts deviating from the normal were observed. Previous sexual experiences. This activity is not new to King and his associates. As early as January 1964, King engaged in another two day drunken sex orgy in Washington D.C. many of those present engaged in sexual acts natural as well as unnatural for the entertainment of onlookers. When one of the females shied away from engaging in unnatural acts, King and others of the males present discuss. Of the males present discussed how she was to be taught and initiated in this respect. Throughout the ensuing years and until this date, King has continued to carry on his sexual aberrations secretly while holding himself out to public view as a moral leader of religious conviction. This is a pastor complaining about how anytime he's chilling with this other pastor who they're allegedly hanging out with to do pastor like things. Hey, we do pastor travels and talk about God and stuff. We go to our hotel and he just invites a bunch of b****** and we got a friend to. And then there's parties and alcohol and s*** and it's like, bro, we. There's alcohol, pastures, prostitutes and like gay going on.

Cristina: It doesn't mention gay.

Jack: Well, no, this is part of the letter.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: There are many parts of this letter. We can't get to all of it. He was just ranting consistently and complaining about all the ongoing.

Cristina: I don't understand, like he was close enough. He was close enough to know all the secret stuff. What?

Jack: It's not necessarily particularly secretive. It's just not in the public eye.

Cristina: Okay. So he let everyone.

Jack: Everyone is excessive. It's just he was not. He's not like, cover up master. I got a bunch of people burning documents and I go in a cloak into any room. Like, he's not doing any of that stuff successive. It's just like, yeah, whatever, my room is up there and like I'm in a part of the country that nobody really knows who I am by face, by name. So yeah, we could do whatever, you know, he's not going out of his way to like, well, I got to make sure that this signed some documents. If she talks, I can just sue her for everything she's worth for those 50 I gave her, or whatever, all.

Cristina: The initiation and whatever. Like, what did they want her to do that she was like, this isn't for me.

Jack: Blood orgies, obviously. Can you imagine? He's out here sacrificing m************.

Cristina: What? What? Like, it's something he describes as unnatural. He wanted her to do something she was definitely not comfortable with.

Jack: Maybe Martin Luther King was the first guy to have his a****** licked. And, like, he's like, yeah, I love when they do that. But it was. It was super uber gay. And maybe that's the true gayness he was referring to. The problem is there were other references to actual. Like, some tug in here, some suck in there. So, like, he was kind of going all in on it, but it had to be. Unless that's what he meant by a natural. It's like all the homosexual things are the unnatural part.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because black and male, but still the.

Cristina: Gay girl not being comfortable with, like, she's a. She's a prostitute, probably, right? Like, or she a random girl. Because if she's a prostitute, what is gonna make her uncomfortable? If she. Doing it for the money, I guess she. So I guess licking his b*** would be pretty, like.

Jack: Yeah, licking. You gotta understand the pressures of licking are. Are really, really up there. It's new to her. She's. It's 1960s. She's only experience, essentially giving b******* or getting penetrated. That's it.

Cristina: Yeah. Trying to think of, like, what could be unnatural. That's pretty unnatural, I guess. What if they wanted her to get peed on?

Jack: That's pretty interesting. Were people into that in the 60s? It's possible.

Cristina: It's possible. They would probably consider that unnatural.

Jack: Getting peed on. It's too unnatural.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But, yeah, there's a plethora of things that could be unnatural.

Cristina: You have any more letters or just this one?

Jack: Just this one. To show you some proof of concept right here.

Cristina: That's great.

Jack: Yeah. Dr. Martin Luther King was a unique individual. Now, here's the thing. There were letters sent between many, many people, including Gandhi, to Hitler. And Gandhi sent Hitler some letters, talking to him and referring to him as friend and brother. Now, Gandhi was also exceptionally kind of a person. So he commonly used language like that. You know, it was very normal.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Like, to anyone, he would say that.

Jack: Yeah, exactly.

Cristina: The people he thought was below him.

Jack: Everybody. Everybody. Because he was very kind, even if he wasn't.

Cristina: Okay. Did he have a problem with what Hitler was doing? Or he's like, yeah, you do you. As long as we're equals.

Jack: I. I don't know where he stood on what Hitler was doing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I'm not entirely sure on that. I know he didn't have. Seem to have a particular problem with Hitler, but he definitely didn't like. Yeah, he didn't have an issue with Hitler as far as the letters go, or he was just being absorbently pleasant. But it doesn't tell us whether he was bothered or not by the things that were happening.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Like, I don't know what he thought about Jews. That's an interesting question. Was Gandhi a white supremacist? Not even white supremacist. Was he a N***? An Indian N***? He was totally racist.

Cristina: He was. So it's possible. Yes.

Jack: But was he racist towards Jews? It kind of seemed like he just didn't like black people, primarily.

Cristina: What?

Jack: That was like, his main I don't want them around us problem, you know?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Hitler. Really, really, really, really not Hitler. Golly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Really, really didn't like black people. That was his, like, shtick.

Cristina: How much black people were in his area?

Jack: All of them.

Cristina: All of them. Where's he from?

Jack: India.

Cristina: India. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Gandhi also had many partners. Man.

Cristina: Partners.

Jack: Yeah, a bunch of women.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Oftentimes teenage girls.

Cristina: Besides little girls that were sleeping in his bed.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He had. Wait, he was sleeping with them?

Jack: Well, here's the thing, and this is what I'm not clear about because.

Cristina: Because I thought he was having sex. Right. Yeah.

Jack: I'm not clear as to whether he. Because in a lot of the research and a lot of the data, it says he was a sex addict. But in a lot of the data, it also says he was very celibate. It's possible one of these came first and the other one second. And I think being a hoe came first. And then he hoed around a lot, and then he was finally like, no, hoeing is bad. And I'm gonna unho. But I'm gonna unho with tiny little girls next to me.

Cristina: I don't know. It could be the opposite as well.

Jack: Because, like, I love being celibate because sex is for noobs. Anybody who gets rid of their ejaculate has inferior energy and will age quicker. Some crap like that he really believed.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But eventually he's like, but them tight tea that. Them tight tween vajayjays is nothing like them.

Cristina: Also, was he seen, like, a celebrity or something?

Jack: He was a. Like a peace preacher, philosophy God person.

Cristina: There was girls throwing themselves. Well, not girls, ladies, hopefully throwing themselves at him.

Jack: I Had a whole conversation about this recently. About how, like, it's not just weird that people. Hey, baby. But like, where that comes from and like the era where this was just common is also like a man and his girl.

Cristina: Still probably common.

Jack: It's pretty common. I'm just saying where it originated from. And like, we all know really what it's hinting at. You know, it's the same thing about, like a teenage girl, knee high socks and, you know, we just had this conversation. The fact that, like, why. Why do guys want skinny, scrawny, teeny weeny, teenage, like, not sometimes teenagers. I guess it's the innocence thing, right? They want innocence. People want to corrupt innocence. I don't know what. Okay, In a similar fashion. In a similar fashion. I. I have a theory. I have a theory and I'll connect. Let's. Let's ground the pedo thing, right? Ground the pedo thing right now. Right now, before we get out of here. Okay, this is my theory. This is my theory on how it's happening. Right, baby? Man and his girl. You know, the things are there. All the parts are there. Okay. All the parts are there. All the parts are there. The opinion of it, there's fantasies guys have of lie. You find this in p*** a lot, actually. Women choking, right? Like, like gagging on d***. Oh, you know, like you've heard it before. The 9,000.

Cristina: Is that what that is? I don't know.

Jack: Just. Just women gagging on d***, essentially. That's a whole thing. Makeup running down her face and the whole nine yards. Right.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And there's. There's a whole, like, thing about liking petite females. You know, tiny little ladies. Yeah, Tiny curvy ladies, Short women. We like being larger than our women.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And this all goes along with one real basic fantasy the guys have.

Cristina: What's that?

Jack: Them having bigger dicks. Oh, the younger you are, the more likely you're smaller. The bigger your hands or your mouth or your. The bigger the d*** looks like in comparison to your hands, your mouth, any of your holes. So if a tiny hand grabs a d***, my d*** looks bigger. I'm better. If a tiny mouth wraps around my d***. Oh, my d*** is so big. I'm feeling that whole mouth out.

Cristina: That's all it is.

Jack: You see, you see how it kind of lines up?

Cristina: He wants that big d*** energy.

Jack: Big d*** energy. Guys want big d*** energy. Guys love the concept of them having a larger d***. This comes with all the insecurity. But this basically means any guy who's into any of this in the background of their mind is really just dealing. Because you never hear of like a black guy with a gagging fantasy. No, cuz are just gagging on a furreal, bro. It ain't a fantasy, it's a reality. And it's probably annoying. It's probably like handle it, you know? I got a fantasy of you having actual good gag reflexes. To what? While people who don't have that in reality, it's just like, oh, I wish it. But you need tinier things for it to be more possible.

Cristina: So you need younger.

Jack: Well, younger is just the shortcut because you could just find tinier. Yeah, but you're assured tinier with younger. And a lot of the time I don't even think it's about the younger per se. A lot of guys just find themselves a really tiny lady.

Cristina: It helps if younger because, like, they're not experienced. They wouldn't know.

Jack: Yes. Because you're also like sex God. Like, there's a bunch of s*** going on here. There's many parts. Right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: If they're inexperienced and anything you do is like, wow, you're so good at sex.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: And like they have no reference point for your d***. So wow, your d*** is so big.

Cristina: And if they're disappointed, they can't be.

Jack: It's compared to what? Yeah, you see, it's this whole I'm the s***.

Cristina: Yes, but really, you're cheating.

Jack: You're cheating. Go find yourself an experienced cougar and tell me you have the same level of confidence.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: An experienced cougar. That's your height.

Cristina: That's an amazing challenge.

Jack: Yeah, right. Like now you suddenly come across a problem where, like, you're no longer just by default, a huge d***. You no longer by default, just highly experienced. Like, that's my. That's my real theory. That's like coug struggle more. That's the fantasy of men wanting younger women. It's because you're God by comparison. You will blow her mind if you're her first o*****. If you're taking her virginity, she. You've ruined your life now. She's always gonna want you.

Cristina: Oh, that's messed up.

Jack: Because you're the best she's ever had. Also, like, you're cheating. You're the only she's ever had.

Cristina: Or you're the first, which also brings some type of specialness to it.

Jack: Yes, it's interesting. Yeah, it's all. It's all. It's a bunch of cheating bullshit. It's PC gamer, Call of Duty. It's like you're not actually good. Not really. And like sometimes you come across actually good people and you think they're literally cheating because you actually are cheating and still getting smacked down. That's the white guy who got the tiny little teenage girl and then thought I'm the s***. But comes across a black guy who got super experienced, super old, like hot chick and equals maybe taller than him or some s***. And it's like, I mean, think about it, just think about it. Black guy's got no problem just dating an overweight white girl that's taller than there. Why? Why is it just normal? It's like cuz we got the confidence that I'm still gonna f****** d*** this b**** down and she's gonna come back tomorrow thinking like that was the greatest s*** ever. Doesn't matter how many m************ she f*****, she's coming back here. Go ahead, try it, white boy.

Cristina: Oh, I think you figured out this.

Jack: Is my theory and I think it makes f****** sense.

Cristina: I think you make it. You made it make sense. Yeah. Whoa, Then what's Gandhi doing?

Jack: He's little d*** guy.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that makes sense.

Jack: Gandhi was like a tiny, skinny Indian dude, right? Yeah, he was playing right into that stereotype. Yeah, but this isn't even racial. This is just a universal fact of being male at this point. Yeah, just guys want to feel better than they are and so we gotta f*** the tiny little girls, bro. It's the only way.

Cristina: But you think Dr. Martin Luther King was like that?

Jack: No, I think Gandhi was like that. Martin Luther King was a black guy. He probably had man ham. He had some severe man ham man him. He had the best man. Him. There's one more bit of proof and then we could get the h*** out of here. One is when it comes to prostitutes, not you talking about Dr. Martin Luther King. He's out here buying prostitutes, right? Yeah, but he's buying prostitutes for this event. Usually. Who is a pimp? It's a black guy. Black guy doesn't need to be impressed. He doesn't need the woman to come and be like, oh daddy, you're so big and daddy, you're so handsome. And this shouldn't that. She's like, b****** make me money. Okay, who's he selling it to? The guy who's like, oh, let me talk dirty to you. And oh, tell me I got the biggest d*** and all this. And who? That's the f****** white guy, bro. That's the white guy who rolled up and so f****** like, oh, that's that One right there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: She can do whatever I want. She can tell me whatever I want to hear. Sad little white guys. Sad little white guys. This is. I'm roving and just playing a violin. What you're seeing right now.

Cristina: Oh, I thought you were playing with his tiny p****.

Jack: No, I'm putting the tiniest little violin for his tiny little p****. Playing the tiniest violin for his sad little pee pee. Yeah, I think. I think I found it.

Cristina: Yep. And I think I learned something about history and men.

Jack: Yeah. I mean, lessons in life. That's what this show's about. This show's about learning about getting educated, about walking away with a better understanding of everything. And a lot of the times everything includes the shadow realm and weird s*** like that, because everything is everything. That didn't happen now. I just felt like telling you guys and reminding yourself that everything comes back to the shadow realm and adrenochrome. And I'm sure that that's probably what the. The weird unnatural was. Maybe this guy was out here raising demons or some bro. He's like, she. He's asking her to do a natural sex accent. It's sex accident. Raising. It's. It had to be blood. It was blood. Sex acts. And she was scared and that was part of the thing.

Cristina: I don't know. I don't know.

Jack: Her being scared was important though.

Cristina: Him.

Jack: Power. That's how he became who he was.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: No chrome he got from these unnatural sex acts that created mad blood and her fear. It was all the adrenaline.

Cristina: Yeah, the adrenaline.

Jack: And then he does the sex thing and then there's blood everywhere. Dr. Martin Luther King was the Satanist. We all know this anyways, of course. Point being, look, you guys want to learn more things about how the world works, about the facts of the universe, well then follow us on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook, social media stuff and you'll be notified. Presumably, you know, and all that's at just Combo pod.

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Jack: Yes, mainly the reviews. You know, you gotta let. I guess the algorithms know what you think about the episodes and the show and stuff. And you just put, you know, give us some stars and be like, yo, I like it because this stuff, or I don't like it because of that stuff. You know, that's how the world works. You let people know. You let the.

Cristina: The algorithms know with emojis as well.

Jack: Yes.

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Jack: Yes. Tell your friends that we have revealed how all Your heroes are crooks and most of them are totally h***.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. They. They were helping. Not trying to hurt him, not trying.

Jack: To sabotage him or benefit for anybody outside the wall to with us. They own everything here. It's all equal to them.

Cristina: So they just wanted to help him?

Jack: Well, no. He just asked for help. They're not loyal to. They own all of the above.

Cristina: Do you have any idea if they were helping him? They were.

Jack: They were, but it wasn't there. Yeah, they didn't care in either direction.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: They would help whoever came to ask for help because they don't care.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It just so happened to be that he was the one who asked.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Through Lyndon Johnson. Which is funny because when you think about the fact that Penguins Day and Martin Luther King's Day are so closely related, are so closely like they're happening so close together, but they're also so closely related because Martin Luther King needed to talk to Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson then needed to cross the border through the penguins. Probably get a message to have a penguin escort him.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: To deeper in to then where he could get some sort of fairy probably carried by the penguins. Or get to an airfield where these penguins would then get to the planes. It's gonna fly them to the leaders that would then allow him to bring up his case, ask for the help that Martin Luther King asked for, and then come back with a response back through the Arctic, interacting with the penguins again and then making them back in. It's fascinating.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 159: Biden Stops the Holocaust

Is the Moon made of cheese? Is Biden worse than Hitler? Did Hitler even do anything wrong? What the hell is the Holocaust anyway? And why don’t we call it The Milking Way Galaxy instead? The Duo unpack the Second World War and the time-traveling that lead to it in the first place, along the way learning the truth about our galaxy and more. What we learn about Biden, Trump and Hitler in this episode will change how we all look at WWII!

Rambling 159: Biden Stops the Holocaust

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  • Things More Important than the Holocaust
  • What is Real?
  • Cheese Moon
  • Cosmic Cow
  • The Milking Way Galaxy
  • That Time Hitler Saved Earth
  • Hitler the Hero
  • The Third Rake and the Grass Cult
  • Hitler is Trump’s Fault
  • Is Biden Worse than Hitler?
  • Time Travel Paradoxes
  • Trump’s Time Travel
  • Cheese Gas

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find yourself somebody very interesting to see. Sit next to while you enjoy the intricacies of this episode that's coming at you with supersonic speeds.

Cristina: Are you sure about that?

Jack: I am absolute. Can you imagine just stuck there the whole time? The whole time, just like. I'm not even aware. I'm like, can you. Whoever play anybody who already listens to an episode at half speed? That was the longest introduction they have ever heard.

Cristina: Who listens to it in half speed? What monster does that look?

Jack: I don't know who, but some people listen to it at two times speed. So I'm assuming there has to be at least one guy out there doing it at half.

Cristina: I might have done that before.

Jack: I don't know. This is, you know, two times as long, twice the awesome.

Cristina: Oh, I guess so. Yeah. I guess that works.

Jack: Unless you could only speed it up.

Cristina: Unless you can know. I bet there. There has to be a slowdown option. There has to.

Jack: But what value would that provide?

Cristina: I don't. If you can't understand what they're saying.

Jack: Maybe like if they already speak too fast.

Cristina: Yeah. To slow them down.

Jack: Interesting. There are moments that I believe maybe I speak absolutely too fast and it makes sense for somebody to slow the episode down so that they can catch the things that I'm saying more effectively.

Cristina: But then if they listen to me, they have to speed it back to normal.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So it's a. It's a game of back and forth.

Jack: Here's the problem we do. They have. If they're listening to this show, it has to be left alone. Right. Because if you go too fast, you cannot hear me.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you go too slow, you never finish a sentence.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it just needs to. They need to take the hit. There's no solution unless you're ignoring one of us.

Cristina: Oh, they should do that. They should just play one once. Like play it twice. One speed fast and one slow.

Jack: Or. Or. And this will take a lot of work, but anybody who wants to do it, feel free. Where they take the episode and they duplicate it and then they slow one down and they speed the other one up and then merge the two conversations so that I'm in the slowed down version and you're in the sped up version to see if we're speaking more or less at the same speed.

Cristina: That is too much work. I don't know.

Jack: But if they wanted to have, like, a fully balanced out episode, that might be the way to go.

Cristina: Ye.

Jack: They want us to sound the same because we're definitely two savagely different energy levels.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, we are.

Jack: Which, fair enough, is sort of the taste people get. Right. Anybody who's in here for the long run, they've become adjusted to me essentially being some sort of maniacal maniac and you just being very tame and grounded. And they're here for it.

Cristina: They better be.

Jack: Yeah. In fact, they're. I would argue our audience is a little divided. Some people think I am particularly entertaining, and some people think you are particularly grounded, and they think I am holding you hostage.

Cristina: Holding me hostage? Mm.

Jack: Which is an interesting idea, right? That I would be holding you hostage because that means you don't want to be here.

Cristina: That's crazy. I feel like I'm the wrong person to hold hostage. You should be holding Dave hostage or something.

Jack: Dave. That'd be interesting.

Cristina: Why would it be me of all people?

Jack: Why not? You are quite the intellectual individual, and we sit here and have very profound conversations, and you have a knack for poking holes in things that don't make sense, forcing them to make sense again. We're here to ground humanity's most absurd and dangerous, baffling ideas.

Cristina: That's what I'm here for.

Jack: Yeah, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways. That's what we are, man. Yes, you're the grounding part. I'm the childish ways.

Cristina: I want to be the childish way.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You don't get to be.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: But anyways, talking about hostages and whatnot, how about that Holocaust, eh?

Cristina: The Holocaust, eh? The one that happened yesterday.

Jack: The Holocaust that happened yesterday? Yeah. You heard about the Holocaust on the news? Crazy stuff, right?

Cristina: Crazy. I haven't heard about it. What happened?

Jack: What happened? Oh, man. You're about to be blown away by what happened. I'm about to blow your mind. It's gonna be great. Okay, so the Holocaust. You have no idea what the Holocaust is, right?

Cristina: I was born yesterday.

Jack: You were born. To be fair. To be entirely fair, we were kind of born maybe three years ago.

Cristina: Yes, I was Born three. Okay. Yeah. So like, did this happen before three years ago?

Jack: It didn't. It did. It did. It did happen before three years ago. All right, so for starters, the Holocaust was a day we'll always remember. One of the most impactful days of ever. Of ever.

Cristina: Of ever.

Jack: Not really. There's probably way more impactful s*** that happened before humans like giant f****** meteors we have no records of Just dinosaurs.

Cristina: Existing, I feel like is pretty.

Jack: That's pretty epic. I think dinosaurs going totally extinct to more impactful than Holocaust.

Cristina: This being alive is insane. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Just the fact of life is kind of astounding.

Cristina: No dinosaurs existing, that being a real thing. Unless people are questioning whether that's.

Jack: Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you the list of things that matter way more than the Holocaust could ever. Just as a. As just setting the grounds for how inappropriate this episode is gonna be. I'll begin by listing how insignificant the Holocaust is as compared to other things.

Cristina: Okay, fair. We should. You should also name things that are less impactful than the Holocaust as well.

Jack: Okay. Perfect.

Cristina: Okay. Perfect balance.

Jack: So balance. You're totally right. You're totally right. Just so that people stop raging on the other side. So we're gonna start bad and then end kind. That's the way to, you know, ease them off. So things that are. This should definitely concern us way more than the Holocaust. Like if we had to choose what information to know and we had to forget one forever. Like in this scenario, the Holocaust is the one we would forget.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: First, f****** dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, f*** Holocaust. Dinosaurs were a thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Second, what killed the dinosaurs? Like, we couldn't stop that now if it came again.

Cristina: Yes. Like, f***. F***.

Jack: The Holocaust. Yes. Seven million. Look, eight billion numerical differences.

Cristina: Ah, okay.

Jack: You know, and however many f****** dinosaurs went extinct.

Cristina: Yeah. How much?

Jack: There had to be way more than there are people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They were everywhere. We're only in some places. And we're focused. Nevertheless, they were focused and everywhere.

Cristina: Interesting. Yeah.

Jack: Who knows the true genocide? You know, the true genocide. We're talking about small stuff.

Cristina: That was the first genocide, I guess. Yeah.

Jack: Something else totally way more astounding than the Holocaust and more impactful and meaningful. The fact that life happened at all in any context. Just like, hey, you can perceive.

Cristina: Whoa, whoa, you're alive.

Jack: You can perceive the Holocaust. Whoa. If you couldn't perceive, Holocaust never happened. So technically, Holocaust is dependent entirely on the fact that you can perceive first. Otherwise never happened.

Cristina: Yes. Are there people? Oh, man. There are people who are. Don't say. I mean, that. Do say the Holocaust didn't happen, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Is it because they're not perceived? Because in their reality it doesn't. Is it possible they're living different realities?

Jack: That's an interesting question. And it's completely possible. Physics doesn't say that. It's not that the perception of the individual is entirely based on their neurological input and output and that we filter most of reality as it is. And if your brain just so decided to filter out certain aspects, they would simply not exist to you. And that people who honestly, truly believe a Holocaust didn't happen. It's like you having a best friend. Your best friend being like, I'm going to Antarctica. And your best friend goes. And they're like, but my phone isn't gonna work out there. And I'm gonna be out there for three years, and then I'm gonna come back and say hi to you. And so they leave and die. Second day. But in your universe, your friend is still alive for three years until you find out in three years he's been dead.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: You're just under the impression that. Well, he told me he wouldn't be able to communicate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that same logic of your perspective of what's happening is as true to you as him being totally dead is to anybody who.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Is the same idea behind, like, the Holocaust deniers or a denier of anything. Oh, Earth is flat. Well, if you honestly, truly, unquestionably believe the Earth is flat, that's no different than somebody believing the same of the Earth is round. Because neither side proves s*** when it's relying on scientists. The other is relying on whatever f*** source, but they didn't go out and prove it themselves.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's faith. So none of us ever saw the Holocaust. We didn't see the Holocaust. We didn't see s*** happen. Those people are all f****** dead.

Cristina: They are dead.

Jack: So then the question is, I mean, both sides. The ones who died first and the ones who died later.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But that being said, I never witnessed it to tell you factually it happened. But either. Also, neither did the people who are denying saying it never did. We're all essentially just believing what we've been told.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: So they're as right as we are.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: That's f*****. Right? Because in reality, like, I couldn't prove to you happened. Oh, but there's so many videos and this and that. Yeah. But I can watch some guy tell me about how it never happened, and here's a video of proof, like what the f*** can I do about that? And go out and do the homework and see anybody massacre a bunch of people in gas chambers or anything like I see any of it also. Yes, because according to this narrative we're establishing right now, you have no knowledge of what the Holocaust is. They were gassed. But we'll get there.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We'll get there. Who's gassed, you ask?

Cristina: We'll get there. Okay, not to. It wasn't the dinosaurs.

Jack: It wasn't the dinosaurs. And we'll totally disregard the fact that you're fully aware of Holocaust deniers before that was mentioned. But.

Cristina: Well, I do know because they're around right now, so of course I would know about that.

Jack: Interesting. You're right. You're right. Same thing as, like, flat Earthers and stuff. That's current thing.

Cristina: And dinosaur deniers.

Jack: Yes, that is surprisingly a thing too, even though that. That one is in abundance. That's a weird one to deny, considering you can actually go see.

Cristina: And the moon. The people who deny the moon. The moon is a ship, is illusion.

Jack: Here's. Here's what's interesting about that one, right? Because. Okay, the moon landing, like, whatever, dude, I wasn't there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Maybe haven't married, you know, I don't know. Whatever. My ongoing theory is we lied about it and then did land and then just claimed the first one was because if we go up there, we see a flag and everything is up there. Right? Yeah, but it's like, well, we were kind of rushing and kind of consistently lying about random s***, so who knows? So it made sense that we would lie about that just to be number one or whatever. F*** we do.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But yeah, so that part, whatever, about it being a f****** ship, mean it could be made out of f****** cheese, bro. I haven't stood on the f****** moon. I don't know. I mean, I have stood on the moon, but, like, you get my point.

Cristina: But there's no way. Cheese.

Jack: Who the. How would you know? Like, if you've never explored. Let's ignore us two and anyone we are in contact with. Yeah, but if you're a normal, boring person, see, and you've never been to space, anything you believe is faith.

Cristina: Mmm. Okay.

Jack: You've not seen it. You're just taking some. It's all religion. So you're like, the moon is made out of rock. Like, everything else in space looks like. Okay. You have to believe that and have faith that that's the truth.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But somebody's like, yeah, it's f****** cheese and it's like, well, that's impossible. Who says? Based on what is. Does cheese exist? Can cheese happen in the universe? Yeah, can.

Cristina: But not by itself like that. Or can it?

Jack: I don't know. Maybe there's some cosmic f****** cow. Oh, no, it doesn't even have to be a cow. It could be any cosmic milk having. Like, do we. Simple questions that could lead us back, and then we'll get back to Hitler real quick. Do we know the right. Totally no idea. But Hitler, World War II, all related. Not to mention the fact that we've had Hitler talked about on this show many times.

Cristina: That was a past me.

Jack: Fair enough. Totally brainwashed. Not brainwashed. All your memories, deja vu, specifically of World War II erased.

Cristina: Yes. I was in a accident yesterday, playing with a portal, just jumping in and out.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Your memories got caught on one side.

Cristina: Yeah, totally.

Jack: Only. And you only forgot World War II.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which just so happened to be what we're talking about.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Perfect. I forgot the f*** I was even talking about.

Cristina: Oh, it doesn't have to be cows.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like, if we assume the. We just need to agree on a couple of things in order to make the moon cheese. Right. So first, do we agree as above, so below?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Everything is equal at all scales. It just repeats, just bigger or smaller. Everything is fractalized. So it's just a repetition of the patterns. Infinitely connected from the previous patterns.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we assume that an atom has electrons and protons orbiting it to some degree, even if not exactly the same. And that, you know, nucleus in a cell with all the elements surrounding that and brain and heart crap surrounding that. And a planet surrounding a star. Star surrounding black holes. So we assume everything is consistent.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Lettuce is fractalized. Broccoli is fractalized. Trees are fractalized. Lightning bolts are fractalized. Everything's fractalized. Nature is fractalized.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So it's safe to assume that everything repeats at every scale and in some cosmic way that we don't comprehend because it's too large for us to grasp. There is some sort of cosmic cow that was cosmically milked by whatever ended up creating our universe. And not even our universe, just our region of space. And although the Milky Way, the milk. It's not just the Milky Way, it's. We probably got it wrong. We were probably talking to gods and somebody was like, hey, man, what do you call this thing you overpower? And not like our crappy demigods who just run the world, but, like the gods who run the galaxies, you know? Those monsters, which is arguable. That just a fun idea. Jehovah and Zeus are stuck in their regions. But like, the Cat People own all of the Great Void.

Cristina: Yes. Wait, did they call? Wait, no. The Great Void is a way far away from us. That's far away.

Jack: I'm just pointing out the fact that the Cat People have way more reach.

Cristina: Yes. Than.

Jack: Than Jehovah, Zeus. Yeah, just pointing that out. They got little read. They got country.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Then there might be people over here. Unless it was the Cat People.

Jack: I don't know. Point being. Okay, when we asked what the name was, they probably told us the Milking Way. And we're like the Milky Way. Yeah, it makes sense. And we named the candy bar after and everything. But it was the Milking Way. We're just a giant farm and the moon is a giant ball of cheese by whatever cosmic cow or other creature was milked.

Cristina: Yeah. It could be anything.

Jack: But we are in the Milking Way.

Cristina: Yeah. Interesting.

Jack: So you see, it's totally possible that the moon is made out of cheese. It's about as likely as anything else we haven't proven. And again, we've been there. But like, if you're not us, what's your reference point? Yes, but somebody told you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like, whatever somebody says made of cheese. Yeah. I believe them.

Cristina: Yeah, why not? Okay.

Jack: What's the difference between that and it's f****** made out of space dust?

Cristina: I don't know. Yeah.

Jack: Isn't cheese made out of space dust?

Cristina: Technically, I guess. Like, what the f***, you know, cheese is made out of space dust because.

Jack: Everything is made out of space dust. It's arguable that all the things required to make cheese exist in atomic form on the moon, if the moon itself isn't made of cheese. So there's at least the parts necessary to create cheese on the moon.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: You know, it is what it is. And allegedly the moon is made out of the same material the Earth is. So all the same atoms are present, they're just arranged differently. Moon is in theory, cheese.

Cristina: In theory.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And it's cheese now.

Jack: Pretty substantially arguable theory. Nevertheless. Anyways, so other important events, you know, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, death, life in general, discovery of fire, making meat better.

Cristina: Is that. That's better.

Jack: That's way more important.

Cristina: More important. Yes.

Jack: That's one of the things that allowed us to become the monsters that caused the holocaust in the first place. Without. That could never happen.

Cristina: We're just never happened.

Jack: Without the wheel.

Cristina: Without the wheel.

Jack: The wheel. The wheel was an important one.

Cristina: That was important.

Jack: A lot of vehicles used in carrying a bunch of people to places where they'd cease to exist.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: So, okay, we'll end the list of things more important. Although there are way many more things.

Cristina: Like a scientist. Can we put them in there?

Jack: Because most scientists, like Einstein for sure. Like kind of all the prominent scientists are way more important than the holocaust as a whole. Like we wouldn't be anywhere without them. Also, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened without them.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: You know, like it literally wouldn't have happened. They are more prominent than the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh my gosh, think about that.

Jack: Yeah, that's crazy. Gas chambers weren't even used, were even intended for that. I believe they're gonna be for something else. And then, hey, repurposed.

Cristina: Was it gonna be some type of torture thing? Like.

Jack: No, I think it was gonna be for some other purpose. It was some. I don't remember the story exactly, but yeah, most of crap use there was scientists being super genius and then it being repurposed by some crazy other f****** scientists.

Cristina: That's how science do now.

Jack: Things less important than the Holocaust. Peanut butter.

Cristina: Are you sure? Yeah, pretty sure.

Jack: Like peanut butter or no peanut butter. Like Holocaust still happens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like it doesn't really change our lives. Great. Whatever. Peanut butter. I don't really like. I don't prefer peanut butter. You know, pizza out there, people like peanut butter.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Something. Man. It's crazy because I can think of way more like, iPhone is way more important than the Holocaust. It's way more important, the Holocaust because the iPhone assures us the Holocaust could never happen again. You know, it's way more important than the holocaust. Then again, the United States has its ways, so who the f*** knows? There's enough empty land.

Cristina: And I'm sure global warming, I think more prominent.

Jack: That's more important. We're trying to talk about things that aren't.

Cristina: Oh yeah, the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. Like robots.

Jack: No, those matter a lot. The problem is like let's be remote. Like at the time that was important. Like it was way serious at the time. Yeah, but like right now, global warming could extinct to everybody.

Cristina: How about the war on terrorism? That has to be less important.

Jack: The war on terrorism less important. I mean, it's arguable, right? Depends how many terrorists there are and how many people collectively the terrorists of killed has the war on. I guess the war on terrorists would be weaker than terrorists as a whole.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But no, if we're actually stopping them, that Is. I guess it depends on how effective that war is. If it's effective, it's way more prominent.

Cristina: Because if we killed more civilians than terrorists, does that matter?

Jack: I don't know. Are there. Did the terrorists kill more civilians and Hitler did? And in that case, are the civilians we killed just f****** bad byproduct casualties that we accept?

Cristina: What if we killed more civilians than the terrorists did?

Jack: Then obviously in that situation. But, like, chances are we've probably killed people who've collectively killed more people than Hitler, thus making, like, even if individually not one of them has a record of 7 million people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Like, maybe enough of them together do.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And if that's the case, then definitely war on terror over the Holocaust.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. So just way more things that matter way more than the Holocaust.

Cristina: But it's important.

Jack: It's an important event. It was him. It was way the most important thing at the time. Well, it wasn't because still dinosaurs and the. You know, it was just very impactful.

Cristina: In the moment.

Jack: Yeah. In the moment. It was just everywhere. There was nothing you could do to avoid it. And it was the scariest thing to have ever existed. Unless the Holocaust is happening and you look up and a dinosaur extinction level event meteor is coming. And then you're like, f*** the Jews, because this s*** is way more important. You're like, hitler, please help us stop the f****** rock.

Cristina: You think he'd stop killing the Jews, though, if.

Jack: Because he's about to die too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He'll be all in, and we'll let it slide. We're like, you're gonna save the Earth. We'll forgive everything you've done. Yeah. You killed 7 million, but you save. Well, how many people we have at that point? Six billion. Like, the trade off is huge.

Cristina: We can't kill anymore. I'm guessing would also be.

Jack: I mean, I'm assuming afterwards, it's like, if you take a single more life, we have to execute you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, you already have a crazy record. We can't have no proof that you're starting this all over.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. And then it'll be, yes, I guess.

Jack: So it's like, then no.

Cristina: World War II.

Jack: Yeah. So arguably, the dinosaur meteor coming for a second time.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Could in theory, turn Hitler into a good guy that helps us stop because he has the ability to convince people of things, and he unites the world under him to help fight this one meteor. The new. The new evil.

Cristina: The new evil that we need to.

Jack: We're gonna gas that rock, Gas that Rock out of here. He's gonna figure it out. You know, we're just gonna get the people who know how to figure it out. Gonna get the people who are gonna figure that out.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Okay. So there's way more things that matter more than things that don't. But that doesn't stop the historical significance of World War II.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Aka the Holocaust.

Cristina: Aka the Holocaust.

Jack: Yeah. I am gonna stick to the fact that those two are the same event. I get now after your explanation before we began, that they're two different events. That they're two different events happen at the same time. They happen at the same time. Even if you have no idea what the Holocaust is and all your memory's gone about it, you had enough lucidity for a split second to explain that to me and retain it, to reiterate it right now. But since you have no clue what.

Cristina: The Holocaust, that's how I know that I don't. That's what. Like, that's the biggest evidence that it's not the same thing. I don't know the Holocaust, but I do know World War II because I recently learned about World War II, but not the Holocaust.

Jack: Interesting. So you. So you have no idea what the Holocaust is, but you're fully informed on World War II?

Cristina: You know iffy about World War II. Okay.

Jack: Iffy.

Cristina: Yes. I know people were at war, and it was a lot of people. So you know a lot of countries. Like 30. Yeah, probably more than 30.

Jack: So, yeah, it's very interesting to be fully informed on World War II and have no.

Cristina: So this Holocaust thing.

Jack: But. So the Holocaust, amazingly enough, is what caused World War II. Yeah, yeah. So the reason everybody was fighting in the first place is because some Jew hater named Adolf Hitler.

Cristina: I think I've heard that guy. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a hero to many.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. Is it weird if I just leave it. Is it weird if I just leave it there and I don't point out. But he was a monster to. More.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If I'm just like, he was a hero to many and just keep strong.

Cristina: A hero to who, though?

Jack: To the Germans. To the German N***. The First Reich.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The First Reich was his collective of people who were like, he's. He's the good guy.

Cristina: Are there more than one Reichsman?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Are there?

Cristina: I don't know, because I think I've.

Jack: Heard, like, oh, no, he's not the First Reich. He's the Third Reich.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, you're totally right. He's the Third Reich. So There are two other Reichs. One, I have no idea what a Reich is.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Second, he's the third of the Reichs.

Cristina: So there might be more.

Jack: There might be more Reichs. Who knows? Maybe all three Reichs were his. Maybe he collects Reichs. I don't know what Reichs are they like rakes. Is it a kind of rake? Does he just. Did he decide. We love rakes and we're the third rake. But it's German for rake. And like we say rake, but they say Reich. They're like with the Third Reich and it's like we all use rakes. They love raking their lawn.

Cristina: The first rake is the stick rake. Then there's the machine version of a rake. And then there's the human version, I guess, which is them.

Jack: But no, all those are used by people. The argument would be dark joke warning ahead for people sensitive about the Holocaust or World War II, since they're not the same event. But if the first one is the broom looking thing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the second one is some sort of machine that you can drive, presumably, and rakes the leaves while you're on it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: De escalation would be whatever's the next huge thing that can easily get rid of a lot of leaves, which would probably be an incinerator of some sort. So if they're calling themselves the third rake, maybe they were talking about the furnaces also. They were furnaces. That's primarily what the Holocaust was about.

Cristina: Furnaces.

Jack: Yeah. About shooting Jews in the back of the head, sometimes in the front of the head, and murdering their children and forcing them to do slave work for prolonged periods of time and pushing them into. Or having them gently walk into furnaces where they would burn alive and. And also gassing them after you told them that they were gonna get to take a shower for the first time in like three months.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's without counting the ones that were just thrown on top of the graves of many others and just buried alive with them. Good times. That's it. You know, the Nazis and they're good times. That's how they play this game.

Cristina: That's horrible. That's all horrible. Anyways, eventually, this is how much they love grass, though.

Jack: This is how much they love grass. They ran out of grass and they're like, people throw people in there.

Cristina: This is insane.

Jack: Yeah. I can't believe that all this happened because they loved rake so much.

Cristina: They loved it so much they decided to use it on people.

Jack: They over invested. They over Invested. Right. So you buy a rake and you don't use rake. Well, it was 20 bucks, whatever. But if you bought like the second rake, and you know it's the size of like a riding lawnmower when you drive around, but it's meant to collect leaves. But you did all your leaves, and you did it so fast. It took like a minute or leaves stop falling. It got so hot, winter stopped coming. And you know, so now you just have this machine that you want to use it, though. You invested.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you got to use it. You start doing other people's lawns for free.

Cristina: You murder your neighbors to do their lawns?

Jack: No, no, no. You just do their lawns. When we get to the third rake, that's when it gets kind of weird. Because it's like about a building, bro. To throw all the leaves in, but, like, no more leaves. We did all the leaves. It's a building, bro. It's a big weird. We bought like 30 of them.

Cristina: You think that you started with animals first? Like, we got a lot of wild dogs. It's problem.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, probably just cleaning random s*** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they were like, well, I'll clean that one. F*** it. Let's just grab those people, clean them up too.

Cristina: Yeah. Sorrow. Okay.

Jack: I mean, there is. There is some people who believe, like I said, he's a hero to some. And it's weird if I just walk away from that sentence right there. He's a hero to some. But there are people who think Hitler did nothing wrong. That is.

Cristina: That is their argument.

Jack: That is a state. Yes. What more. What more proof do you need?

Cristina: Because Hitler just wanted Germany great again.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: After World War I, it was probably really left horribly shambles. He was like, we gotta make Germany what it was before World War I. We got to make it great again.

Jack: Yeah. Make Germany great again. And he. He protested that he even had a. An uprising on January 6th a couple of months ago. Like a year ago or so. Where he from today? The White House.

Cristina: He's alive?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: Isn't that who attacked the White House?

Cristina: They do say he's still alive. So I guess that makes sense.

Jack: That makes total sense.

Cristina: But how's he still alive?

Jack: Why wouldn't he. He froze himself. Obviously.

Cristina: He froze himself. Can we prove that that technology.

Jack: We proved that exists. I specifically remember having an episode in.

Cristina: Which I feel like we disproved that the technology works.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Do you think it works?

Jack: Explain how anybody who f****** listens to this regularly. What's the narrative on this? I don't f****** remember, is it?

Cristina: Well, we know that Jesus couldn't have used that technology. I guess that's what we proved.

Jack: Yes, Jesus could. No, but I'm pretty sure we proved that. For what the h*** was it for? It was to preserve something.

Cristina: I don't know. I just remember one episode, it was about Jesus, because I was wondering how he came back alive, and I was like, that's maybe one of the ways you were like, nah, man.

Jack: Interesting, Interesting. I don't know. Well, let's assume that at least he had it and he froze himself in cryostasis and then got unfrozen recently. And that's why we have Trump.

Cristina: Are you saying he is Trump?

Jack: No, no, no. I'm saying Trump is his disciple. If nobody here has seen the Messiah, watch it, because I'm about to make hella references to that. And you need to understand him, which is basically the guy who El Mac the manifesto, or at least we thought it was that way and that Alma C. Was doing his work. But it turned out Emma C. Wrote the book that that guy was following.

Cristina: Yes. He got the ideas from the student. The teacher got the idea from the student.

Jack: Yes. And then he wrote the book, and people thought the kid was the one who was following the teacher, but it was the other way around.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So Trump somehow sent his ideas back in time, caused World War II. Oh, and that's why he's gonna fight Biden on top of the White House. Boom. So that he doesn't send it out. That's gonna happen. Hasn't happened yet. Biden is trying to stop the Holocaust.

Cristina: That is so crazy. That makes sense.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense.

Cristina: So Donald Trump wrote something, sent it to the past, and then those leaders from the past took it. Because it wasn't just Germany talking about, let's make German.

Jack: There was a lot of people, someone.

Cristina: In Italy was doing the same thing who's like, World War I happened. And they were like, we gotta make Italy as it was before World War I.

Jack: We gotta make it illegal.

Cristina: Exactly. It was the same speech, but with different people, different countries.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: So they all just happen to be.

Jack: It's like the news cycle right now. Right? Like, you could put every news station next to each other and they're repeating the same line for line thing. Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Oh, my gosh. It's the same thing.

Jack: Yeah, it's the same thing. 100.

Cristina: So it was Trump all along.

Jack: It was Trump all along. And Biden's actively trying to stop the.

Cristina: Does he know time travel Is involved Biden? I hope not.

Jack: Oh, no. Biden has no clue.

Cristina: Okay, good.

Jack: It'd be weird if Biden can go back and unmolest all the people who he's molested. That's a problem. So we need to arrest him after he stops Trump.

Cristina: Okay, who has he molested?

Jack: Many, many. And all the blacks in jail are his fault.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So. So they're both pretty bad, but we kind of got to let one stop the other.

Cristina: Okay, so we need him to save the day anyway, even though there's a bunch of crimes against him.

Jack: Yeah. But it comes back to the whole, if Hitler stop. Helped us stop the meteor, it's the same thing. Are we gonna stop him from helping us? Yeah, we're probably gonna let him.

Cristina: Okay, so we're gonna let Biden do his thing with Trump, and then if he lives, we'll punish him.

Jack: I don't. I don't know if. Here's the question. Would we let. Because we are arguing that Biden is way less bad than Hitler. Right. If we can forgive Hitler after.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. As long as he doesn't repeat himself. Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: If Biden doesn't do anything bad after, he's okay.

Jack: Exactly. If Hitler, after killing 7 million people, helped to stop the meteor that was gonna destroy all of Earth.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We gotta at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, you saved, like, a lot of people.

Cristina: Yeah. One more death and you're done.

Jack: But you managed to straightaway. We'll ignore the 7 million you killed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Same thing for Biden. Yes. There's some kids f***** up walking around. They're probably serial killers or some s***. Probably molesting people of their own. You probably start some crazy domino effect of people molesting people who molest people forever. And that cycle will never break because they just think it's normal. Or they'll blow their brains out before they get to molest anybody else. And I'm not sure whether that's better or worse. Whatever.

Cristina: It's all pretty horrible.

Jack: All pretty bad. But, like, if you stop the Holocaust, Is he in stopping the Holocaust? Right. Just scaling here for the sake of introspection and analysis, but if God d*** this episode. If Biden were to stop the Holocaust, is that as good as Adolf Hitler stopping the meteor? Like, because, like, all right, Biden, his atrocities. Right. Harm how many people? Totally lives taken.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: People have committed suicide or decisions he's made as a politician that had led to people dying. Right. Would we say less than a thousand people?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. So then him stopping the Holocaust is impressive.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What percentage of 7 million is about a thousand, though when you do the difference, is Hitler doing more good by saving 6 billion when he only killed.

Cristina: 7 million, is he doing more good?

Jack: Yes. Is. Is. Is the comparison here making Hitler better than Biden by total effect? Assuming Hitler stops the meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And.

Jack: And Biden stops the Holocaust. Yeah. No longer kills people, but somehow. Somehow in an alternate universe, Biden stops the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So is Biden because he saved way less people. Like how many times you multiply a thousand to get to 7 million?

Cristina: But he's also stopping the Holocaust. So those people Hitler killed counts towards Biden as well because he's saving those people or.

Jack: No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So he killed a thousand. But how many times can we multiply a thousand before we get to 7 million? And do we multiply it less times than 7 million to get to 6 billion? If that's the case, then in stopping the Holocaust, Biden has successfully done less good than Hitler stopping the meteor.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because we're talking all of humanity. But again, it could just be. I have no idea what the numbers are, but if we multiplied. In fact, let's find out right now who is. Who is less evil in one of these scenarios. Oh, s***. Oh, s***. Okay, okay, explain. So we're gonna start at how many people Biden. Okay. So, you know, we just ran the numbers, we did the math. So we're not gonna count all the things Biden did. There's too many. And a lot of them lead to mass incarcerations, which led to a lot of deaths in and outside of prison. Cops looking for more reasons to arrest people. Biden gave him that reason. More people died, shot by police, on top of the fact that Biden, it was against gay marriage, which then had a boom in the gay suicides of the 90s. And this is just a plethora of s***. But the one thing that his vote could have swerved in the opposite direction was the Iraq war that he was for and the Iraq war that he did not oppose led to 460,000 deaths.

Cristina: That doesn't sound so bad.

Jack: That's a crazy bad number. And if he were to go back in time to stop the Holocaust, which is 11 million people, all you have to do is divide the 11 million people by the number of people Biden is responsible for killing, which is 460,000, which gives you 23 people saved per life he took. That's beautiful. He's net positive he's in right now.

Cristina: Yeah. If he does stop the Holocaust, he saves.

Jack: He redeems himself. He totally redeems himself.

Cristina: Factually, yes.

Jack: But we know. So does Hitler.

Cristina: Oh. Piece of the meteor.

Jack: Because the meteor. The question is, how better or worse is Hitler to Biden's 23 people saved per life taken. Okay, in the case of Hitler, we have to do the total number of.

Cristina: People that exist in that time.

Jack: Well, the number of people he was responsible for killing, which is the same number that we divided by Biden's deaths. Except now that's the number we'll be dividing by because it's the number of people that Hitler killed.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: By the total number of people who were alive at that time, which was 2,300,000,000. And when you divide 2,300,000,000 by 11,000,000, you get 209 lives saved per life taken. In conclusion, if Hitler stops the meteor, even if Biden stops the Holocaust, Hitler is still a better person than Biden.

Cristina: Interesting. Because he's saving more people.

Jack: Because he's saving more people. So we've found the scenario in which Hitler's the good guy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Over some other person who people like right now.

Cristina: Well, one event is going to happen, and one event is not going to happen.

Jack: Yes. The Holocaust is going to cease to exist, thus stopping Hitler from ever being being a bad guy in the first place and never taking a single life. Thus, by default, making him still better than Biden.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It doesn't matter how this plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler's a better person than Biden is what we've learned.

Cristina: Because Hitler did nothing.

Jack: He either did nothing or he saved more people.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: In any scenario, Hitler is better than Biden.

Cristina: Wow. That is crazy. Whatever, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. There's no winning. Biden is evil.

Cristina: Yeah. Even though he's going to save the.

Jack: World, even though he's gonna save 7 million people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He still can't make up for the fact that he is still responsible for 400 and what? 450. 430 deaths of his own. 60. 460 deaths of his own. Doesn't matter that the collective total is. He saved 23 lives per. Because Hitler didn't kill anybody.

Cristina: Because he stopped Hitler from going. Okay.

Jack: On the flip side, if Hitler did, in fact, stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's why we got. We allowed him to go into cryostasis. Then Biden stopping Hitler will extinct humanity. Because Hitler won't be around to stop the meteor because he won't have the power of the third Reich.

Cristina: Oh my gosh. It's really. You see, time travel is confusing. It's always confusing. Time travel fair.

Jack: And this is Trump's fault.

Cristina: This is Trump's fault.

Jack: This is Trump's fault. He's gonna send this message back, Cause Hitler to rise to power. Hitler is gonna kill 7 million people and then he's gonna stop. But the 7 million people died anyways. Biden gets a hold of the fact that Trump did this and he's gonna stop Trump before he gets to do it, thus stopping the Holocaust. But the meteor is gonna kill us, thus stopping Biden from ever stopping the thing. It's impossible. It resets.

Cristina: Resets. So it's gonna happen no matter what though. Yeah.

Jack: Biden can't stop the Holocaust because it would stop the meteor. Yes, but it would. It couldn't. It could never. Because it would loop back to it happening all over again.

Cristina: Yeah, but it's gonna still be an interesting fight to watch.

Jack: Yeah, except he by default has to lose. The outcome is he has to lose, otherwise the fight can never happen because there is no Earth.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. So he's gonna lose. But we shouldn't be spoiling that to people. What if people are betting on this? Then again, this is on our world, not theirs.

Jack: Yeah. I have no idea what's happening in.

Cristina: Universe on this stuff. Yeah, that's good.

Jack: I mean, they could in theory bet on the show, I guess, on our newscast of it or whatever f*** is happening.

Cristina: Yeah, but if he wins, then what happens? Like would we even know he couldn't win?

Jack: Yeah, like what would happen if he wins? No. Hitler rises to power. Hitler with no power can't stop the meteor if the meteor hits and the fight never happens, so he never stops the message being sent that then allows him to come into power. So if he stops him, then he can't stop him.

Cristina: How do we make sure that he can't stop him? Do we have to help Trump then?

Jack: No, no, he can't.

Cristina: He can't.

Jack: He could never. Because the fight is only happening because he already lost.

Cristina: Oh, okay, I see.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz had he succeeded, none of this would have happened. Yeah, we'd all be dead.

Cristina: We'd all be dead. Yep. Oh, okay.

Jack: That's the problem here. Right?

Cristina: So he time travel.

Jack: Yeah, he failed already. We know he failed because it's happening.

Cristina: Yes. Alright, I'll make sense again. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. F****** time travel, man.

Cristina: Yeah. What?

Jack: Yeah. So now you're caught up on what A World War II is to some degree. Furnaces, rakes, you Know the works.

Cristina: Yes. Someone who likes raking a little too much.

Jack: Someone likes raking a little too much. And took it to the next extreme.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's probably has to do. It's miscommunication because it was obviously Trump just talking about how to comb his hair. Right.

Cristina: Because it did all star at Trump.

Jack: Yeah. Because he's sending a message of like, man, that guy had a slick back thing going on.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And I can send them how. How I make my slick back work.

Cristina: Oh, my God. And then he's writing in English.

Jack: And he's writing in English. He wrote rake.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it's like modern English.

Cristina: So it's not even English from back then.

Jack: Yes. He wrote probably like comb or something. I'mma comb my hair. And he's like, oh, comb, rake. Yeah, I get it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm like, yeah, brushing the grass. I know what he's talking about. I love brushing my grass. You know what? I'mma innovate society around grass and leaves. Cleanest grass, no leaves.

Cristina: So this was all due to miscommunication.

Jack: Yes. Because Trump just wanted him to have nice hair like Trump does.

Cristina: Ah, makes sense. Makes sense.

Jack: He wanted the hairdo that Hitler has to match his flag. The way that Trump's hair on some of those memes is the American eagle.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You know what meme I'm talking about? No, you know what meme I'm talking about?

Cristina: The American eagle.

Jack: Yeah. Trump's hair is the American eagle. You see? You see how that amazing America hairdo.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Is placed on this man's head. That's all Trump wanted Hitler to do, and he sent that message. But Trump, you know, he. He only has the best words to talk to idiots. He doesn't have the best words to speak to a highly advanced scholar. So he tried his best with his very good words for dumb people to convey an important message to smart people.

Cristina: About how he should do his hair.

Jack: About how he should do his hair. But his words on a scale are quite bad.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So, you know, N*** Germany happened.

Cristina: Ah, it all makes sense.

Jack: Don't make sense. All cause time travel, of course.

Cristina: History, man. Of course.

Jack: But it's gonna happen anyways because we can't stop it.

Cristina: Cuz we're here because we're here. Yes. So Biden's gonna lose.

Jack: Yeah. We kind of need the Holocaust to happen so that we can get rid of the meteor.

Cristina: That's definitely going to happen with the meteor. Yeah.

Jack: Well, we stopped.

Cristina: Definitely did happen.

Jack: Well, we stopped the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because the Holocaust happened.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And Hitler had enough resources and power to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It is what it is. We don't make the rules.

Cristina: Nope. We.

Jack: Some people and I began the episode with this. To some people, Hitler is a hero.

Cristina: The people that know this truth, the.

Jack: People that know the truth that Hitler stopped the meteor thanks to Trump.

Cristina: Well, not really thanks to Trump.

Jack: Had nothing to do with Trump. I mean, kind of. He only came to power because he confused the message of raking.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Became obsessed with rakes.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then created the greatest rake ever. But then turned on people because he needed to use the machines that rake.

Cristina: Technology to destroy the meteor.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. But, like, all of this is doom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The meteor stopped. Humanity exists today because Trump.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We'd all be dead if it weren't for Trump.

Cristina: Time traveling Trump and time travel save the day. Okay, 100% by accident, but.

Jack: Yeah, by accident. Totally by accident. But that just continues the story of Trump disclosing secrets at random and casually helping people without even knowing how he did it.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. That sound like Trump focused. This all sounds right.

Jack: Yeah. It's right up his alley.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Quite accurate, all things considered. It sounds exactly like something Trump would do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Say something that sounds kind of off and wrong and you're like, whatever, I'll respond to it later. Knowing you do. Somehow things got better.

Cristina: Whoa. Interesting.

Jack: Not to say the Holocaust was. Things. Was getting. Things getting better. But, like, what if we didn't have the Holocaust and the meteor did hit us?

Cristina: It has to be that situation.

Jack: It has to be that situation because that's how it plays out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So then kind of. I'm not saying Jews. What happened to Jews at that time was a good thing. It was horrible. It was absolutely awful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But perhaps necessary to stop the meteor. He needed the power in order to wield it and save the world.

Cristina: You don't think anyone else could have done that?

Jack: Not the way he. He was fighting the world and winning. He was fighting the world and winning. So that's the leader we needed to stop that meteor.

Cristina: Yes. And then he purposely lost the war because he stopped the meter.

Jack: Yeah, he stopped the meter. He's like, wars done. They said, if I don't kill anybody else. And I stopped the meteor, I'm good.

Cristina: Yes. And then he went to sleep.

Jack: He went to sleep. He immediately went to cryo stasis. And they're like, oh, my God, he killed himself. No, he. You saw him sleeping when he got brought out. You're like, oh, he's not moving.

Cristina: He has to be dead. He's.

Jack: Yeah, he has to be dead. No cryostasis.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Brought out. And he came back a couple of years ago to meet Trump for the first time.

Cristina: Amazing.

Jack: And then he told Trump, hey, I am a great strategist.

Cristina: So where's. Like, is he still around?

Jack: Other side of the wall. Oh, the ice wall.

Cristina: Ice wall.

Jack: Yeah. He went to chill with the big dogs out there with Tupac and Michael Jackson.

Cristina: They're outside of the wall.

Jack: Yeah. Anybody who's allegedly dead and got spotted comes back to visit once in a while, but is ultimately outside of the ice wall from the other side of. Flashlight. Earth.

Cristina: That's crazy. How are they all still alive? I feel like they should be old enough. Unless they all somehow.

Jack: We have the technology and. Or adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So they all probably just take an adrenaline.

Jack: It's probably just all adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's gonna get his hand full with adrenochrome. Okay. Let's see.

Jack: Yep, yep, yep. And Trump wants that adrenochrome too.

Cristina: You think he deserves it? Question mark?

Jack: I don't know. He saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If anybody deserves adrenochrome, it's true.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: He saved everybody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean, he's also responsible for 7 million people dead, but he's responsible for 2.3 billion people alive.

Cristina: And it doesn't matter that both those deaths and aliveness are accidents.

Jack: Accidents. But thanks to him. Fair enough. Fair enough. He was just talking about his hair.

Cristina: He was just talking about his hair. Come on.

Jack: And so we can't attribute the good that happened to him intentionally or the bad. Yeah. It's mere chance. Just chance removed from it has nothing to do with him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Hitler might have taken that to an extreme.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But the power was necessary in order to stop the meteor.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it. Is Hitler a good guy because he saved the world, or is he a bad guy because he only saved the world as a means to not be punished for having killed many, many, many people?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, he did save the world.

Cristina: He did save the world, but he.

Jack: Also did opt in. He had.

Cristina: In, like, comic books. Does this situation ever happen where they team up with a bad guy and they'.

Jack: Oh, happens all the time, but it's not f****** Hitler.

Cristina: I know, but, like, what do they do? Do they arrest the bad guy afterwards, or are they, like, you can go for now. Just don't do anything wrong.

Jack: The question is, is Hitler in saving as many people as he did, even if, like, he had no option? Right. So it's like, you're gonna lose even if you don't lose. We kill you either way. Yeah, but you stop the meteor, we let you slide. Right? So in that scenario, he had no option but to help. Had he had the option to help and they're like, well, you, you could let us all die, it's fine. Either or you're going with us, whatever. Would he gone out of his way to save the world, to keep himself alive? Or is he like, humanity must live? Or did he care about his people? He's like, well, there's 4 million or there's 11 million I killed, but there's 22 million. I gotta make sure stay alive, you know? Like, what's the math he's in. Is it a choice or does he feel. Feel obligated?

Cristina: Too many questions.

Jack: Yeah. Like he. Did he have a revelation? He's like, oh, wow, I can't let everybody die. What about the 22 million who believe in me?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They depend on me.

Cristina: I feel like we need a time travel to find out.

Jack: Yeah, but we're gonna f*** something up.

Cristina: Yeah, we can't time travel. But man, there are so many questions though.

Jack: We can quantum computer that b****, though.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay.

Jack: That's what we could do. We could find out. We could add the variables we need that are necessary to figure out the truth.

Cristina: The truth of whether he really, really, really is a good guy or a bad guy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was definitely a bad guy.

Cristina: Yes. But like, but what was he thinking about when he was saving the world?

Jack: Exactly. Did he stop being a bad guy?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or was it like, this is for me?

Cristina: Yes. There's so many. Like, what if in that moment he was a real good guy? Like, who knows?

Jack: And when he came to meet Trevor, did he think Trump was an idiot or is he like, I should follow this guy, huh?

Cristina: Because he did meet him. He did meet Trump, but that was after the book. So was he disappointed? I bet he was disappointed because you're not supposed to be your heroes.

Jack: I bet he was disappointed.

Cristina: Everything he thought the book was about was a lie.

Jack: Yeah, he realized everything.

Cristina: He based everything off of his life was a lie.

Jack: His life was bullshit.

Cristina: Yeah. So I guess that would have been a really disappointing moment.

Jack: He looks at Trump, he meets and Trump is like, I remember that thing. Yeah, here's the original. And I mean, I guess Trump wouldn't have the original. Well, actually, Hitler kept It. Since he was a kid.

Cristina: Trump gave it to him as a child.

Jack: Trump sent it back in time. He has no idea where it was going. He just wanted Hitler to have it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which is weird because he only found out. Oh, my God. Time travel. He only found out about Hitler because of what Hitler did.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So he sends back his hair thing because of how Hitler's hair was.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then Hitler confused it for.

Cristina: I feel like it still works because of the miscommunication. It doesn't break it. Like, this is a perfect loop, type of.

Jack: Yeah. But, like, where did it start?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's always that.

Jack: But because we can. Oh, man. I guess the same thing applies with, like, starting the Holocaust in the first place. Right. Because it's like he sent it back. It only happened because he sent it back. But he only sent it back because he knew about it.

Cristina: It.

Jack: So, like, the Holocaust exists in a loop of one piece of paper about here.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it does. Well, we're not gonna fix that problem. And we don't need to fix that problem.

Jack: We don't need to fix that problem because if we fix the problem, then we all die.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's fine.

Jack: We need the Holocaust.

Cristina: Yeah. That's horrible.

Jack: The conclusion of this episode is that the Holocaust is the best thing to happen to Earth.

Cristina: It's not. It's. The conclusion is that time travel is confusing.

Jack: Time travel is confusing, but it resulted in the Holocaust, which gave Hitler the power that then allowed us to stop the meteor that would have extinct humanity otherwise. So without Holocaust, no humans.

Cristina: Confusing.

Jack: Yep. You know, that's. I did not expect to learn the things I've learned today about. About our universe and how it works. But that's. We are where we are.

Cristina: Yeah, Hopefully. I wonder what it's like in universe 3. It can't be this crazy.

Jack: It's probably really boring.

Cristina: Yeah, please. Time travel wouldn't be a thing.

Jack: No. And they don't know anything.

Cristina: They don't know anything. I'm sure they don't know Hitler became in power.

Jack: They don't even know if that happened. Everything is faith over there.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: They don't even know if it happened. Yeah, we're talking about earlier. They're just going off of sorts. Well, they have no proof of anything. And even if they did, they question that.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm sure the term Holocaust denier over there. Some whole other s*** that's just like a movement of its own.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, we're over here like. Well, the Holocaust, factually, this and you know, it was important to save the world to some degree over there. It's like, what, Holocaust? You're sheeple. You're falling for it, man. It's like, is that worse?

Cristina: What?

Jack: I'm at least acknowledging it happened.

Cristina: Was it made out of cheese?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: What if. No, you can't use gas machine to make cheese, can you?

Jack: I don't know. That's. I guess it's theoretically possible. Right. Because gas is just the gaseous form of any kind of solid or liquid. I suppose. Right. So if you could compress it enough to create it to make it back to solid, the only question would be, how do you turn cheese into gas? Because then you could have cheese gas and compress that cheese gas back down to cheese.

Cristina: That's a lot of work. Okay.

Jack: Innovations, technology, advancements, the superior human intelligence will allow us to create cheese gas.

Cristina: What would that be? For? What use would that be?

Jack: To eat.

Cristina: To eat the gas.

Jack: To eat the cheese that came from the cheese gas.

Cristina: But if you have the cheese, why would you need the cheese gas to make the cheese?

Jack: Well, no, if you have the cheese, you don't need the cheese gas to make the cheese.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Presumably, the gas will turn into cheese. So if you don't have cheese, but you have cheese gas, you can make cheese out of the cheese gas, but you don't need the cheese gas. If you have cheese, why would you.

Cristina: Ever not have cheese but have the cheese gas?

Jack: Maybe you're trying to get into your plane and you're not allowed to bring food. So instead you bring an empty jar, and they just see a jar with yellowish gas in it, and they open. It smells like cheese, but there's no cheese inside. So you can let your weird jar thing can go in, whatever. Then you take your jar thing, but your jar is also a cheese gas compressor. So you take your seat on the plane and you hit a button and all the gas gets compressed. Boom. Cheese pops out of your jar. Now you have cheese you can eat on your flight.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: A scenario where cheese gas is beneficial.

Cristina: That is crazy.

Jack: But practical. Okay, in that scenario.

Cristina: In that scenario, I don't know, I feel like just sneaking some cheese is easier than cheese gas.

Jack: Well, if you remember, a couple of years ago, there was a weird wave happening around here where dancing became illegal for a certain amount of time, and.

Cristina: People happens every once in a while.

Jack: Every once in a while, dance becomes illegal, you know, and then there's two people fall in love and solve the problem or whatever. Hey, I come from ballet. I'm A street dancer. It's super legal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like how are we ever gonna work together? And then they go and win a competition, the world is saved or whatever f*** happens.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you remember that we know weird scenarios like that happen occasionally. They're really hyper specific for whatever reason.

Cristina: Like when people died from dancing.

Jack: People died from da. Exactly.

Cristina: I think that's why it was illegal for a little.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense. And I'm not sure why we didn't draw that connection before.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So was the name of the movie Step Up? Probably.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Step up or Dance to Me or some s*** like that.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: One of those films. That whole thing is due to the nuns dancing until they died. Oh, no, that's unrelated town.

Cristina: Yeah, there were dancing nuns too. I bet. But they were also meowing. But whatever. Okay. What are you talking about though?

Jack: Dancing, dancing. That's why in Step up everybody dancing was legal. Just because people died dancing. We know it's dangerous. We know dancing is dangerous.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's not legal to dance. Earth has banned dancing because deaths.

Cristina: Yeah, but now it's not legal anymore.

Jack: Isn't it?

Cristina: It was illegal, but then we saved. I mean, the couple that had the good dance move.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. And they saved the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But that was. I remember that was the harsh dance demic of the. Of the 20th century.

Cristina: What does it have to do with anything?

Jack: The dance Demic.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where people were dying in mass because they were dancing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we had to outlaw it again.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Well, I'm just saying it was just crazy. It just reminds me of the crazy dance demic.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay.

Jack: The fact that we regularly have to outlaw dancing once in a while because.

Cristina: Every once in a while, because too.

Jack: Many people start dancing. Yeah. Too many people do it. People get reckless and they die.

Cristina: It's really. If anyone does anything and every. Like if a group forms around this one thing, it becomes a danger.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Which. Whether it's dancing or meowing or laughing or biting.

Jack: And then we gotta ban it.

Cristina: Yeah. Just for a little while until people calm down. Yeah.

Jack: That's how it goes. And that ultimately what the Holocaust is about. Now, you know you've learned about the Holocaust in this episode. Pure clarity. And as soon as this show is over and we wrap up, I'm gonna ask you to recite what you've learned today.

Cristina: I don't understand how rakes have to do comb raking.

Jack: Comb over comb. Two rake similarities. Something got lost in translation. Comb, rake. Okay, sure. Combination.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I combed the grass yeah.

Cristina: But did we make raking illegal after the Holocaust?

Jack: For a brief moment. That's why the lawns look like s*** for the next couple of years.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But then we were like, this doesn't make any f****** sense.

Cristina: As long as no one tries raking three.

Jack: Yeah. Don't know. Rake three. We banned rake three entirely. That's still illegal right now.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Rake three, Totally still illegal. Rake one and two. Totally fine. We see those everywhere. Yeah, totally fine.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: We've done two everywhere. Rake 3. You're getting excessive.

Cristina: Yes. No reason for the rake 3.

Jack: If you do have rake 3, it's going to be super monitored and you can only have one and it has to be industrial purposes only. And nobody's allowed to walk into your rake.

Cristina: Yeah, okay. Yes. That's. That's where we live right now. Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys enjoyed the facts we spoke about World War II and the Hollow Holocaust. There are many conversations in which we totally justify all of Hitler's actions and much more. Probably not. We probably don't justify it. There was an episode in which we definitely created Hitler and Friends show.

Cristina: That was you and Ryan.

Jack: Yeah, me and Ryan. So you can find that episode somewhere around here. But there's a bunch of other episodes in which Hitler's importance on the world and how he's either affected it negatively or positively, probably mostly negatively. You can find all that. All those lovely episodes with woke jacation. The real information. Don't get fake news to death. Get real news to death by us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You'll find all that on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. And in your review, tell us how much you love the information we give you and if you can, let us know you listened to this episode with a Hitler emojis.

Cristina: Is that a thing?

Jack: I don't know. But, like, why isn't it? Right?

Cristina: Or Holocaust emoji. What would that be?

Jack: It's a lot. A lot of people. What do you call that little hat that the Jewish people wear?

Cristina: I know what you're talking about.

Jack: Okay. It's that hat in a furnace.

Cristina: It's horrible. There's no way that they would make an emoji. I feel like Hitler emoji would be more likely to exist than by miles. The Holocaust emoji.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you have any of those, just use either in your review.

Cristina: Okay. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. All the Holocaust deniers, you know. Tell them the truth is out there and they're just living in ignorance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And if they want the truth, they need to listen to the Rambling Podcast, brought to you by the Just Conversation Podcast.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: No, I don't know. Because it comes from living things, right?

Jack: So do babies.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh, yes. I guess it's equal. Two babies.

Jack: Yeah. Poo and babies are the same thing.

Cristina: It's the same thing. They're made from you eating things.

Jack: Me? Oh, yeah, Totally.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: And also, this kind of confirms the fact that what happened in that south park episode is true.

Cristina: What south park episode?

Jack: Where the Pope gave birth to Bono by pooping him.

Cristina: Yep. I guess that proves poop is alive.

Jack: Poop is alive.

Cristina: I did not.

Jack: Raise it as your own.

Cristina: What? Wow. Who knew? Yep.

Jack: Poop is a living thing. Now we gotta fight for the rights of poop.

Cristina: That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Poo lives matter.

Cristina: And what are we gonna do with that?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What are you supposed to do with Pooh?

Jack: I don't know. But Pooh has rights.

Cristina: To what?

Jack: To live.

Cristina: They do live.

Jack: Until we kill them by drowning them.

Cristina: They live there. They become fish.

Jack: They don't become fish.

Cristina: We don't destroy them. They just move.

Jack: We let the plants eat them.

Cristina: Yeah, that's also good.

Jack: We don't put our babies in the ground.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Elin Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 151: Powerful Beings

Was Jehovah a single person or a group of people? Are Jehovah’s angels just Zeus’ children rewritten? Are the soldiers in Jehovah’s army (angels) roughly as powerful as Jehovah, but they merely believe in his philosophy and follow him rather than attempting to replace him? The duo unpack the possibility that Jehovah and his angels were merely a powerful group of humans with adrenochrome on their side at war with other factions of humans achieving the same abilities awarded by adrenochrome but through other rituals and traditions. What they discover about Hitler and Jehovah in the process is something no one could have ever predicted!

Rambling 151: Powerful Beings

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Hitler
  • Zeus
  • Jehovah
  • Adrenochrome
  • Power
  • Biblical Giants
  • Small Humans
  • Biblical Metaphors
  • Omniscience
  • Nothingness
  • The Garden of Eden

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+Transcript

Jack: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released. Released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to pull someone close and scream at them that this is the show. This, the Just Conversation podcast, is the show. You're gonna be like, what do you mean? And you're gonna be like, it's the show. Be like, but what? The show.

Cristina: The what?

Jack: Which of the many? And why is this? And it's like, no, no, no, it's the show. There's one show and it's that show. It's like, no, but what about, like, Supernatural? And it's like, no, no, no, no. That's not real. Only the Just Conversation podcast is real.

Cristina: Is a real show or is real like.

Jack: No, it's a real show.

Cristina: Historically, both. Okay.

Jack: We are the show that's ever existed. Everything else is an illusion created by the Matrix. Anyway, so we were talking about how Jehovah.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: Everybody listening? We're back on this.

Cristina: Yes, whatever. We can't help it.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the angels are based on the Greek gods. We know that exact thing. Even with the Dead Sea Scrolls continuously being uncovered, all we're finding out is that it's basically a copy and paste of a bunch of Greek mythology s***.

Cristina: Yes, that sounds right.

Jack: So the same way that all the angels, all the gods were sort of equal to Zeus, maybe slightly less powerful, but they were equal in that Zeus is a demigod. He's a flesh person who you can kill and will stay dead. And all the other gods are essentially the same thing. My argument is that Jehovah, being based on this, works the same way. Now, he is the loudest, and he claims to be the one and only God, but I think all the angels are.

Cristina: Would it be equal to him?

Jack: Would be equal to him to some degree.

Cristina: Like, all the demigods would be equal.

Jack: To Zeus, all the gods to Zeus the way. All the angels to Jehovah. And the example I have is that Hitler was one man.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And there were millions of soldiers under his control, but they're all men.

Cristina: I mean, they were all equal to him.

Jack: Yeah. They're all Equal to him. But we don't know any of them.

Cristina: They're superhuman.

Jack: Yeah. We don't know a single one of them. And he is not special. Hitler was not special. He was just another person.

Cristina: But he made himself special.

Jack: He made himself special. He was the loudest, he was the scariest, he was the most ruthless. And as a result, he's who we remember. The same applies for Zeus, who was particularly ruthless and violent. And same applied to Jehovah. Jehovah was what, at the beginning? Aggressive, ruthless, monstrous, murderous, destroy, whatever. Until people are like, if we stop f****** with him, he will stop retaliating. Yeah, let's just listen. And then what? He just became a passive, kind guy because, like, everything is in the orders that I wanted it to be.

Cristina: But he had to be that tough guy first.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Weird. Yes, he is. He could be just another angel. Like, angel could just be the word for God or gods or demigods or whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: 100% equal. But in all these. In all these stories about gods, whether it's Christianity or. What was the one that you just mentioned?

Jack: Greek mythology?

Cristina: Greek mythology or Norse mythology? Norse mythology. Thank you. Norse mythology. They all have giants as well in these stories. They're giants. And giants seem to be something other than human and gods, or at least that's why I feel like that's what's going on. If there are giants in the Christian book, what are they? Are they aliens?

Jack: Well, there's an interesting question there, because there are giants in the Christian Bible, especially the one that David fought.

Cristina: But in the Bible, they're human and angel babies. Right. Or something like that.

Jack: Well, Goliath wasn't. Goliath was just a giant that I believe was human.

Cristina: Oh, he was just a. But he's a giant human. He's not a giant giant. You know, like in.

Jack: No, I think he was abnormally huge. I think he was an impossible size.

Cristina: Oh, like an actual giant?

Jack: Like an actual giant.

Cristina: Oh, so then what are these giants?

Jack: Okay, so an easy argument for this would be people were smaller in the past. If you trace us far back enough, we're actually at our tallest proportion moment. Yes. Okay, well, it's complicated because it branches off in two different directions. Right. We began as smaller humans, but we were taller apes. So when we were still in the ape age.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We were pretty big.

Cristina: For apes.

Jack: For apes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And this is in the period where we started standing up on two legs and, like, looking around in that. Like, we were pretty tall around that time. Neanderthals, that kind of s***. We're talking huge. But then we enter the human ish era. We're humanoid and almost human.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then for whatever reason, there's a crazy dip and we're very small. Through the beginning of humanity, we're still.

Cristina: Big compared to apes, we're still small.

Jack: We're pretty small. We're talking like average height being anywhere between four, five and five feet.

Cristina: Whoa. Okay. What?

Jack: And we know that people can be as tall as 7ft, 9 inches, 9, 8ft. What's tallest human? Like, okay, we got huge f****** people.

Cristina: Yeah. But not many.

Jack: Almost twice the size of the average. If the average was four or five.

Cristina: Yeah. Are those giants?

Jack: So these people are technically giant? I think you're technically giant after you pass like six, six or something.

Cristina: But that's not what they're talking about in these stories.

Jack: Well, we don't know, because the problem with interpreting the Bible literally is that it's a book of metaphors to begin with.

Cristina: What about the other books, are they also metaphors?

Jack: I don't know. Assuming that these are also periods of time when they were. How do I put it? Okay. If you were to say, what is the past of Asia look like? Asians are usually pretty small. So were they smaller? Evolution tells us yes, probably. But then we look at something like Africans that are really tall.

Cristina: I don't.

Jack: If two of these people were to.

Cristina: Cross paths, would one see the other as a giant? Is that what you're saying?

Jack: Chances are in the past we would have seen the other as a giant.

Cristina: If we didn't know that they were people already.

Jack: Their skin already looks different. We've never encountered these people before. All we know is that they're humanoid, but literally twice the size of any of us.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's a giant. And when you write about that, that's a giant. And if they've never encountered you and you've never encountered them, Fear and hostility is human response, survival.

Cristina: Yeah. So they weren't really giants battling gods then. He's in a lot of these stories. It's a power, like fight between giants and gods for whatever.

Jack: I mean, for power, whatever. It's possible. Let's look at, let's compare these two situations. Right. You have Jehovah, all his angels waging war. We have Zeus, all the gods waging war.

Cristina: Yeah. And the Titans that are giants.

Jack: Yes. In these two cases we have the loudest guy who we know of and their army. Like we said, Hitler and his army.

Cristina: Okay, Right.

Jack: If this was taking place so long ago that it was let's say, I don't know the first f****** year, but the same event. So there's a guy who's a Hitler equivalent, super loud, surrounded by people just like him. But he's the loudest, he's the scariest, he's more ruthless. And there's a group of rebels who come from somewhere else. These rebels come from a. Now this Hitler is taking place in Asia. He's a short guy. We are terrorizing. We don't know if there's anything outside of Asia. We're over here terrorizing everything in Asia. Taking over, expanding, trying to explore what there is. And then these people popped out of nowhere. And they're like, that's wrong, what they're doing. But they're African. They're very tall, they're old school African. Like 6, 5, every single one of them. And over here, you're all four or five, every single one of you.

Cristina: So you're saying that these characters are probably based on humans, then it's not gods at all.

Jack: It's not gods at all. It was just some guy whose loudness was godly.

Cristina: Yeah, it's like in, what is it, North Korea, where he convinced everyone that he is pretty much God and he can't. Like, he doesn't need to use the bathroom and stuff like that. Like, there's stories like that about whoever this ruling evil dude is. This ancient Hitler.

Jack: Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. And I think that it's possible that the giants we've heard about were just an opposing team. The other people.

Cristina: The other people. Okay, I guess.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What? So it's not really. But then none of these stories matter when it comes to what could exist besides us.

Jack: Yes. Because everything is a story about us. And we just have to keep in mind that we are speaking metaphorically at all times in these books. So when we say giants. Well, what does it mean? Tall guy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When we say God, maybe people in power, people with weapons, people can cause damage. People who other people listen to because.

Cristina: They just seem magical because of that. Because they have abilities.

Jack: No, no, no. It's not even magical. Those are also just metaphors.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: Everything is a metaphor.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Everything's a metaphor. Okay, okay. Take the magic out of it.

Jack: Take the magic out of it. Yeah. It's just loud people and war and crap of that nature.

Cristina: What? I guess. And it's just a history book.

Jack: It's a history book of metaphoric stories.

Cristina: Yes, all the books.

Jack: All the books.

Cristina: All the books are telling the same story, which are all metaphors.

Jack: Which is funny when you talk about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Right. And these things are being brought out, discovered, and they're just talking about the stories in the Bible, and the Christians are grabbing this s*** and running like, hey, a different book is talking about the same stories that took place in the Bible. What? And it's like, oh, my God. If you guys look at the text, you'll find out that the Bible was written using these texts, not the other way around. Not the other way around. It's not that two different groups of people saw the same events and wrote about them. It's that the Bible is based on these books who are based on those.

Cristina: Books, who are based on those other books who are based on those other books.

Jack: Like, and so the Christians are like a second. No, it's the same. It's the first version of the book you're reading?

Cristina: Yes, it's the first draft.

Jack: Yeah, it's the first draft. Well, you're like, wow, different. No, it's not different. It's the same book, but in.

Cristina: For the Dead. For the Dead Sea Scrolls. How can they read those? Is it even possible?

Jack: It's in Hebrew.

Cristina: Okay. So they can translate it somehow. Okay.

Jack: I mean, it's.

Cristina: I don't know how old they are. No, I didn't know it was still a common language that those were written in.

Jack: Oh, yeah, yeah, they were in Hebrew.

Cristina: Hasn't that language changed since then?

Jack: Yeah, but the language is still pretty, like, used pretty common. It's kind of widespread. And you can just ask somebody to read it to you. Like, the difference between Old English and now is hearing somebody talk about it. But if you were to read it, you can still pick up on what they're saying.

Cristina: Yeah, but it makes me. It reminds me of that story of that someone went through the Bible and then changed everything for other words to tell a whole new story where the Bible is actually about aliens and their experiment with humans and they were using the Hebrew language and giving different meanings, but it's the same word. But I guess that word has multiple meanings, so you can just change it to whatever you want it to mean, as long as it's the word. Because that word could mean. You know what I mean?

Jack: Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about and who you're talking about. I forget his name, but I know what you mean. And in the case that you're currently talking about the Bible being the story about aliens or whatever, out of the two possibilities that we're faced with, either say the Bible is being Literal? Well, in assuming the Bible is telling real events that were of supernatural proportions, at least us.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: Whether it be powers or science, the latter seems more likely because the words that they have in the time that the words were being used and written actually align more with the guy's argument about it being associated with foreignness and aliens as opposed to gods and perfection. So it's more likely that what they meant was aliens. That is fact.

Cristina: But I'm assuming no one's going to read those scrolls in using that way.

Jack: Of thinking, because they're already going to say that. Well, at least if they're Christian, they're going to look at it. Or Hebrew or anybody who believes in the religions of Jehovah.

Cristina: Yeah, they're going to translate it using those words that they're familiar with.

Jack: Yeah, the translation has to fit. It's the confirmation bias you're going to go in with. This is what it should sound like. So anything I read I gotta fix for being like this.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Versus reading it and knowing how the words were used at the time that it was written. So what they most likely mean which the guy you're talking about wrote a book explaining how the words were used previously.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And how when they were written in the Bible, there's no way they could have meant water when they meant the heavens or something like that.

Cristina: Yeah, he gets really into it.

Jack: Yes, I can remember his name. Name. But yeah, I know who you're talking about. In any case, it's always more likely than that there are aliens, than that there is a divine being who designed anything and everything somehow existing from outside reality.

Cristina: There can't be something outside. I don't be.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense. In fact, the idea that something or.

Cristina: They can be, but it can't be inside too.

Jack: The idea that something even thinks is an idea from within reality.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oh, that's how complicated it is. Even the concept of perception, awareness. Consciousness is inside is a concept that exists within reality. For anything to have awareness and make everything else, you would have needed awareness to begin with, which is impossible to have it before reality in which that came to be exists.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So there could not be just definitively there could not be a God based on that. At least not an omniscient everywhere, all the time God, No. And the best we have for that is still from within reality. Which is to say, how did our universe come to be? And that's where we have nothingness observed by consciousness. We still don't know where the place where those two Things are is we know it's within. I guess it's reality.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Even if there's no universe, there's no space, time. There is just nothingness and consciousness. Those things still exist within reality.

Cristina: Can we prove that there's nothing? No, we can't.

Jack: No, it would be impossible.

Cristina: This is a question. You have to ask it. I don't know. I know there's no answer to that, but it's just.

Jack: Yes. The answer is there is nothing. There's as much nothing as there is something. They're both infinite.

Cristina: But can you prove it? How do you prove that nothing's there?

Jack: By proving that something is here.

Cristina: And that's enough.

Jack: It's easy. In order for something to be in a place, there must have been nothing there first. Otherwise the something could not go there because there's already something there. You need nothing there first in order to put this new something there. Okay, well, because we are here, there must have been nothing here.

Cristina: Because we are here, there must have been nothing.

Jack: Because if there was something here, we could not be here.

Cristina: Yes. That is so complicated.

Jack: Nothingness has to be just as likely as somethingness. But we can never experience a moment of nothingness, difference.

Cristina: Mmm. We cannot experience nothing that is complicated. But that's more about death than anything. That's complicated. Because then what is after life? Yeah.

Jack: More perception. Definitely.

Cristina: You don't think there could be a nothing?

Jack: We couldn't experience it no matter what we would continue to experience. That's why I don't fear death.

Cristina: Because you have to experience something.

Jack: Because the however long you experience nothing for, you'll be unaware that you experienced nothing. The example is always you die or you're dying and the light is slowly fading. And then the second it goes to black, a split second goes by, and then the light starts expanding again. And then you just pop out of somebody's v*****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you never stopped perceiving? Yeah, there was just more of the same. Or you die. You're dying. You're on your deathbed. You're an old man. You're about to leave your soul, you're about to leave your body. Everything is dying. The lights are going out. And then suddenly everything starts to fractalize and starts to break apart.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then there's just a bunch of parts everywhere. And you're still witnessing the part, but the concept of you is gone. But you're still watching the people who were your family slowly decompose into nothing that looks like just parts. You watch your body. You're Surrounded by decompose into nothing. And now you're still here, perceiving this soup of something.

Cristina: Do you? Huh? I guess. If that's true. And then you just. You're just born afterwards. Is it. Are you in the nothing? You wouldn't be born.

Jack: No, the previous scenario. You're born. In this scenario. You've died and crossed to some other plane of existence. Smooth. It was seamless. There was never here's space with nothing in it. Yeah, that never happened. You just went from, hey, you're sitting across from me. Christina, I'm on my deathbed. You come and you visit me next to my deathbed on my last moment. And you're like, hey, it was real fun to do this show with you, but you're dying. And I'm like, yeah. And then I see you. Slowly as the light goes away, you start to get fuzzier and fuzzier. And then you become so fuzzy. You're blending into the wall now because it's also fuzzy. Before long, everything is sort of uniform, but not. This is a mix of colors and stuff. And I also forget in that same progression, slowly start forgetting more and more of who I am until there is no me, There is no you. There's nothing. I don't remember anything. Because remembering is irrelevant here. Yeah, but I'm still perceiving. I've not stopped perceiving. Now I'm just seeing this mesh of colors. And now I start to decipher what this mesh of color means. And thus forming my new reality.

Cristina: That makes sense. Yes, that's probably it. Why wouldn't it be?

Jack: Why wouldn't it be? That's how we were born in the first place. We popped out, everything was a blur of colors. And we started just piecing together what that meant.

Cristina: Yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. And we're like, okay, well, this mixture always means Mom. That mixture is always Mom. That's a chair over there. Some before long. Chair. Table. Mom. Christina. Tv.

Cristina: Red. Blue.

Jack: Red. Blue. Yeah, but then I'll forget all that s*** again.

Cristina: Yes, but there's never nothing.

Jack: Couldn't be. We couldn't perceive nothing. Otherwise it wouldn't be nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The moment we can perceive it, it's something.

Cristina: It's so confusing. It's not confusing, but it is complicated. Yeah.

Jack: It's possible to discuss. Impossible to imagine.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. What's less impossible is the. What's that thing we call now The Force? What are we calling it?

Jack: Yeah, the Force.

Cristina: The Force. Guess what? In. I'm not finished with the story, though. But I'm going to talk about what I've read so far.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: In Prince Lestat, the vampires, they're not just vampires. There's a starting point, if you remember from part two. There was the first vampire, but there was something that made the first vampire.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: It was some type of creature. I don't know what it is. When I picture the creature, it looks like the thing from Fullmetal Alchemist. The little black thing with an eye from the gate. From the Gate. Well, I don't know. But he was also in the real world with their dad. He had him in a little thing.

Jack: And pride was also made out of him.

Cristina: Oh, yes, yes. Well, that thing, he's in Prince Lest. That. Well, not. He's not in that story. Or maybe he is. I'm not sure. But whatever, he was in the First Vampire, and that's how the vampires were made. And in the newest book, there is a problem with creating vampires now. And a vampire's theory is that this thing that made the first vampire, it's. It's kind of like in all the vampires. And it's reached its limit of how far it could reach with its powers or whatever. Like it has a limit. It reminds me, though, of the Force and how we say if you use the Force too much. I don't remember what happens if you talk about how it's bad to use the Force too much. The dark side is bad to abuse it. Yes, it's bad to abuse it because.

Jack: Whatever, it'll turn on you.

Cristina: It'll turn. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: You're weakening it or something.

Cristina: Yeah. So I feel like this story is pretty much following the rules, that all these other things that are like that are following.

Jack: That makes me think of the movie, the one. The one where Jet Li went around killing all the other versions of himself and every one of them he would kill would spread that one's energy amongst all the other versions of him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then where there were two, they were so inhumanly strong, they're superhuman.

Cristina: Yeah. Because that power has a limit.

Jack: Yes. So if that's what's happening in the story, then it's possible. If they just start killing vampires, the vampires who have those powers will get stronger progressively.

Cristina: Well, they get stronger progressively just by aging, too.

Jack: Yes, but if they murdered all the vampires.

Cristina: Well, there's maybe. I don't know what's happening in this world. But my guess is this creature is so tired of all the vampires that are around, it's trying to convince vampires, the older ones the strong ones to murder other vampires, all the weak ones because there's so many weak vampires. And I guess he's sick and tired of all these vampire. He's sick and tired of sharing this energy because it is him. And so he's getting these older vampires to kill them off because he is the energy. And I guess he's tired or he's being wasted and he's sick of it. So he needs some of them to die.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Does that make sense? I feel like it makes. I don't know if that's what's happening, but that's what I think is happening.

Jack: It would make sense. Yeah. You did release some of the power and spread yourself less than.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: Makes sense.

Cristina: But I wonder if the force works like that too.

Jack: Possible.

Cristina: Like in the flash. It does seem like that.

Jack: Yes. There is the amount of force to go around. And if too many people are using it then other people don't have access to it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It is completely possible. Yes.

Cristina: It's interesting they all work like that.

Jack: Because you have to think that the universal energy that exists everywhere is being used by everybody. There is a sort of amount of individuals that could be tuned in at any one moment.

Cristina: There is an amount that there's.

Jack: Okay. Most people probably use the energy small time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if somebody's using a f*** ton of it somewhere in the universe, 99.99% of everything is using fractions of it and doesn't even. Like they can still use it because the chunk free is so big by comparison that that small tiny chunk could still be spread out amongst a whole planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know like everybody on earth using it at the smallest percentage. A small fraction of the force can use the force at the same time that somebody else where is using 70% of it in one shot. Because that 25 is still a ton of energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But now if two creatures or two civilizations decided to use 75% at the same time. We're not advanced enough to do that.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Or we haven't found things like that. And if we did, we could destroy this plan by acc. If somebody had that kind of power. But if somebody does and there's two of them, who knows how often these people are using it. So those people can't.

Cristina: Yeah. That would start a huge problem.

Jack: That would start a huge problem. Now we don't encounter that because we're primitive in every case. Whether it be magic, whether it be science, whatever the case, we're primitive.

Cristina: But if there's something on Earth right now because it reminds me of adrenochrome and towers falling for the blood. And what if that's also involved in.

Jack: It's not enough.

Cristina: It's not enough.

Jack: Small potatoes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're talking even the gods from within Earth, Zeus, Jehovah, these people. Right.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They could both simultaneously use the energy and it would still not. They could both use as much as they know how. And there would still be energy to go around. And it would still be an insignificant amount because they're still regional. One is from Greek.

Cristina: Yeah. But there was still problems though. But I guess that's because with each other more than. I mean, like in their little groups. There was a bigger problem.

Jack: Yeah, but doesn't. We're talking about the force. It's not causing any force disturbance.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because they can both use it effectively.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we haven't drained. Now, if everybody on Earth had the same capacity to use it that Zeus and Jehovah did, would then. That created then. Or are we still talking small potatoes because it's still one planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's something out there so powerful it took over the Great Void.

Cristina: And how could that be? If there was a limit.

Jack: If there. There is a limit.

Cristina: If there.

Jack: But they were using. And keep in mind how small the Great Void is as compared to the rest of the universe. It's so small. We look and we got to look really far and we see it really small. We just know that it's huge because we still see it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But it's far and tiny. So that took an immense amount of energy.

Cristina: That definitely did. Yeah.

Jack: If somebody did that with raw power, not just science, but using some sort of power.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Can two beings do that? Now we're talking a different scale.

Cristina: Mm. And you think they can do that?

Jack: I think yes. I don't know. Can two at the same time. But also that's such a small amount. Like, how big is the power distribution we're talking about if it's using the entire universe, if the whole universe is using the same energy source.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: How big are we talking? And like, is our universe old enough to even have beings that can wield such exaggeration? Or has it been.

Cristina: It seems like we can't all share it though. Or if we're looking at like full metal alchemists. They needed to kill people to. To share it between the powerful people that are using or whatever. Or was that not needed for the energy to be used? I feel like it related.

Jack: No, because they are using something different. They use energy to make transmutation. You Mean philosopher stones.

Cristina: Okay, that's.

Jack: No, it's the same exchange. If every one transmutation required a death.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. Then the philosopher's stone is cashing in your deaths ahead of time to then use the power later.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Same concept.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's just. When are you paying?

Cristina: Yeah. That is so complicated. That's. That's. That show is just so dark. But there is a limit. But there's no way to reach that limit.

Jack: There is a way to reach that limit. We just don't know what.

Cristina: We can't reach it.

Jack: Yeah. And we can't fathom what would there should be. Because there is a limit.

Cristina: Has someone reached that limit?

Jack: Probably not. What is the lifetime of God? What. What. What numbers would we give if he can outlive our entire universe? In fact, our entire universe is the fraction of a second to God. But he lives 100 years his time. So if a fraction of a second. Right. We hadron collider. We smash two atoms together. Boom. The conditions of the universe. A whole civilization happens in that small space. A whole universe happens. Bunch of galaxies, bunch of planets, a bunch of civilizations. 50 trillion years go by and then that universe dies. Great. Sweet. Okay, fine. Universe is dead after trillions. That was a fraction of a second. How long in comparison to that fraction of a second will I. Is my time if I'm 100 years old and that's I'm just die at 100 normal a** f****** life. But that I'm the guy who smashed the two atoms together and made that. So in that timescale, we're now in the universe that is going to expire in 50 trillion years. But all of this has been a moment God doesn't even notice is happening because it's happening so quick.

Cristina: Yes, but we're somehow using his energy or.

Jack: Well, my point would be at that scale, what is a minute? What is a day? Could we fathom what a second is?

Cristina: No.

Jack: A second is long as h***. A second could be the entire. Actually this whole universe exists in less than one second of God.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: If we convert that to energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's nothing like it's. It could expire.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: In a normal. God is going to die in a.

Cristina: But it took a lot of energy to make us, though.

Jack: It took such insignificant energy to run the hadron colliders that we still have everything else in the planet working simultaneously.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Do you see?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just to smash two atoms together and create a whole universe. It took so little energy, most people don't even know that Machine exists.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: Nobody noticed anything happened.

Cristina: Everyone feared for the worst.

Jack: Nobody knew. That's all just stories from people who were looking into it.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Nobody knew what was happening. Oh, and it's happened many times.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, those are all fake stories.

Jack: So in these cases, one fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second to a hundred years. So to a full life amount of energy, what is our universe? Insignificant?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's easy to waste the energy. Something could use it. Is there anything within here who could use it? I don't. F***.

Cristina: Probably not. Is adrenochrome the closest we get to that, though?

Jack: Adrenochrome? Isn't that. Is adrenochrome connected to the Force?

Cristina: I don't know. That's why I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it is.

Jack: No, I think adrenochrome is a shortcut.

Cristina: To what?

Jack: To not have to use the Force, but acquire all the same things. Okay. Think of what Alan Watt says. You could meditate into an entirely new perspective of viewing the world and understanding reality. Or you could f****** take acid. Like acid is good to show you the window. But learn how to get there on your own.

Cristina: Oh, okay. It's better to learn how to get there.

Jack: It's not better, it's just a different way. He suggests learn together on your own. But who cares if you can get there?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The point being that while we have. Actually, I have an idea. I lost my train of thought.

Cristina: We talk about how adrenochrome is a shortcut to blind.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Then adrenochrome would in any case be the asset. It's like the Force is the way there, but not everybody's connected to it. Not everybody has a He man sword or Power Ranger powers or f****** this or that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Jedi mind tricks or whatever. Sometimes you just take adrenochrome and you get there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's instant versus a bunch of Pragues and studying monks can get there. Spend their whole lives, mind you, instantly when you meet them, what the f*** is happening?

Cristina: Or take adrenochrome.

Jack: Take Adrenochrome.

Cristina: No practice.

Jack: But also the same things would happen. People who practice and learn how to use the things, are they out there causing trouble?

Cristina: Trouble? No, never. But they don't have withdrawal, which I guess is a good.

Jack: Yes, that's another good.

Cristina: That's a good thing.

Jack: But also they're not out there causing. Because they learn how to wield it. Yeah, but if you got the power overnight. Do you know how to wield it? No, you just got crazy abilities. It's the same idea of when we were having that episode about the mass shooting maybe two, three seasons ago, and me and Blake were talking about our guns bad and our people bad. And it's like, no, not really. Yes, people die all the time. But if you gave everybody a gun overnight. Well, actually, we're talking about the Internet particularly, which was. Is the Internet evil? It's like, no, the Internet is just a brand new creation. And we don't know what the f*** we're doing.

Cristina: We definitely don't know what we're doing with the Internet or with guns.

Jack: With the Internet or with guns. Well, we know how to use guns. More guns really don't cause that much of a problem.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: If you gave everybody a gun, we kind of get it. But before anybody knew what a gun. This is how I proved my point. Before anybody knew what a gun was. If suddenly I invented guns today and I just happened to make enough of them to give everybody a gun. A lot of people are gonna die.

Cristina: Yes. No one knew about what it was.

Jack: Yeah, a lot of people are gonna die because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Even after we see a couple of people dying, people can be. Well, I could defend my house with her. I could do this without. People are gonna shoot each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Same goes for the Internet. We don't know what the f*** we're doing. We're just screaming at each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing.

Cristina: Yes. Because they're complicated. Because people shoot themselves.

Jack: Yeah, but those are accidents. That. That doesn't happen often.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's probably the. In Earth history, every year, maybe 10 people shoot themselves by accident.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: Like, it's not worth the mention.

Cristina: Okay, but it happened.

Jack: Yes, but also some dude fell upstairs. That's also something that happened once. Like, it's fine once in a.

Cristina: Like, I don't know, just once.

Jack: Weird things happen. Never. Look at the anecdotal anomaly that doesn't fall into the act.

Cristina: Like the lady who killed her husband with a squirrel or something.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like when the only one time in a lifetime.

Jack: Yeah. Like, it's pointless to be like, well, that one thing happened. Like, who gives a s***? It'll never happen again.

Cristina: Yeah. Unless we got to worry about people trying to kill other people with squirrels. That becomes a thing.

Jack: Those circumstances are so highly specific.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't matter.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. With all that comes the equivalent of the Force, and we can't do that. We. With something we don't know how to use, which is how we end up with people just having withdrawal, desperately trying to get as much adrenochrome as possible, doing weird things and abusing their power. Meanwhile, the people who practice to get to the same place don't give a. Yeah, they're just enjoying it.

Cristina: Yeah. Cool.

Jack: Interesting point, now that I think about it, though.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Thinking about Hitler and his army and Jehovah and his army and Zeus and his army, essentially. Maybe the same person, whatever this army was, was definitely tuned into the Force themselves, wasn't it? Not Hitler's army.

Cristina: Well, we don't know for sure.

Jack: But like Jehovah's army, just humans, not even demigods, just humans who tuned into the Force and collectively, quite some power. Not only is the leader, the most powerful, most ruthless, most dangerous one, and the one we all know about and refer to the rest of the movement as, but all the other people also, they learn and they practice and they studied together.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they could know how to use the Force and with that, use the power to suppress everyone else.

Cristina: Yeah. That's so weird because I was thinking about giants and how, like, what if they're the ones using adrenochrome because they're doing weird things, too, besides that they're giant. They're usually doing the weird same things that the gods are doing. They have a different title and they look different, obviously, but they're doing pretty much the same things. They're kind of equal.

Jack: What do you mean by doing the same things?

Cristina: Like, they can do the same powers or they have the same strength or whatever. You want to describe it, they turn into birds. They turn into birds. Like, there's no difference except for their title.

Jack: So you're saying God is a title to a type of human?

Cristina: Yes, they're calling themselves gods, and we call them gods because they call themselves gods and they call themselves giants. So we do the same.

Jack: Maybe they didn't call themselves any of that and we called them all that.

Cristina: Okay. But they were still both. Like, what's the difference of the two groups?

Jack: There's no difference. It's just two different, like, ethnic groups at most using the Force, Adrenochrome or the Force. Or in any case, maybe one was using one and the other was using the other. It looks like outside of religion, people aim towards other means. Witchcraft. You don't need blood for f****** witchcraft unless you're doing black magic, which is circling right back to the same s***.

Cristina: You just reminded me. God needs blood. So they're the ones doing a dream of Chrome. If anyone's doing adrenochrome, it's the gods.

Jack: Yeah, well, again, like what I'm saying, anybody outside of religion is doing magic. They're doing meditation. They're doing.

Cristina: They're using the forest.

Jack: They're using the forest. Anybody within religion, it's a whole different story. Using adrenochrome, they're cheating. They don't have the natural ability. Although they go around telling everybody. Everyone else is using the bad thing, but everybody else is doing what? Using nature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So a quick example would be, right, you go to church and they tell you we're going to chant together, and you are going to pretend to drink blood and pretend to eat flesh. Sit down, shut up and listen to me. Good guys, according to themselves. And then they'll point at the other side and be like, those are the bad guys. What are the bad guys doing? Stay in touch with nature.

Cristina: Yes, that's what I was going to say. Instead of listening to what someone else is saying, you're listening to nature and hearing what it tells you.

Jack: Yeah. Be introspective. Ask what's right and what's wrong. Question everything. The. The story of the apple. Why is God so dedicated to not having Adam and Eve eat the apple? It's like, why don't you want them to. You made the perfect things. You don't want them to have knowledge.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why don't you want them to have not? Of course, chances are he found that f****** garden.

Cristina: I don't think he ate that apple.

Jack: I don't think God was a. God wasn't allowed to eat that.

Cristina: He wasn't allowed to. He was like, you guys can't have it because I can't have it.

Jack: I think that's exactly what happened. I think God was not allowed to eat the apple. And he is an angry and jealous God according to himself.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: So if he was angry that he couldn't and jealous that they could. No, f*** it. My God doesn't talk to them. I'm not gonna let them eat either.

Cristina: Except that they. Because he's not perfect. Like, whoever made him. Or not as perfect, you know, whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They could not listen to him, which he has to, I guess, listen to whoever made him.

Jack: Yes. He can't actually eat the apple. There's nothing he could do to eat that apple. Yeah, but they could.

Cristina: But they could. Yes. And they did What? That makes sense.

Jack: God doesn't have all the information. It's possible Adam and Eve had more information. Yep.

Cristina: Whoa. Do you think they shared it with us? Did we bury that information?

Jack: No, I think we actively suppress that information. I think religion does a pretty good effort of trying to suppress the real information that's out there, while Adam and Eve knew the real information that was out there. But we cut their stories short and remove what they're saying a lot of the time.

Cristina: This is because there is no story. They just gave birth to a bunch of children. The end.

Jack: Yeah. We don't talk about the fact that they knew everything.

Cristina: Yeah. Did they teach their children? Yeah. I don't know. That's interesting. What if God couldn't eat the apple?

Jack: It's doubtful that he could. Yeah, he probably never eat the apple. He probably didn't make that garden. That cartoon is just his home. It's his fishbowl.

Cristina: It's his fishbowl.

Jack: It's his fishbowl to where something greater is just watching God.

Cristina: But then when he kicked them out, what did he kick them out into?

Jack: The world.

Cristina: The world? Is that inside his fishbowl?

Jack: No, he kicked them out of the.

Cristina: Fishbowl where he lives.

Jack: He lives. God can't leave the fishbowl. That's why he's obligated to do other things, to communicate. For whatever reason, Lucifer and Jehovah are bound to their respective locations because they have to do other things to communicate. They have to send a physical. Not physical, but like an energy based thing. Talk to you through a bush. Talk to you through your dreams. Send the messenger angel because he cannot leave.

Cristina: Oh, crap. He is trapped wherever he is.

Jack: God is in prison.

Cristina: Yes. He's in prison. No. I don't know.

Jack: He's trapped wherever he is. He has messengers for days and he has tricks for days. I can talk to you through any number of. Why don't you come down?

Cristina: I'll blind you.

Jack: He's got excuses. Oh, like, bro, you've destroyed the earth many times.

Cristina: Doesn't matter.

Jack: You don't care. No, but he's trapped wherever he is. It's a fishbowl.

Cristina: It's a fishbowl. Yes.

Jack: And it's probably the garden.

Cristina: But is that fishbowl near here? In here? In this reality?

Jack: Could be. Maybe. Could be a pocket dimension.

Cristina: A pocket dimension.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And it could be that in kicking people out, he sent them out to the earth where they weren't meant to be. Maybe that's why we're destroying Earth. We weren't meant to be here. We were all supposed to be in this garden that would grow proportionately with the number of people that are in there for all of infinity. The garden would always be the right size for the number of people there. Yes, but the planet doesn't grow by itself.

Cristina: No. That's interesting.

Jack: We sent out people who were never meant to die in the first place. Also in the garden. They were immortal.

Cristina: They were immortal. Okay.

Jack: Ate the apple and then were kicked out and given mortality. I don't think that's how that story really goes. I think as long as you're in the garden, you're mortal, you're immortal, and as long as you're outside of the garden, you're mortal. Maybe God is too old to leave the garden. He might die instantaneously. It's like if Dorian Gray looked at his picture 200 years later.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He would immediately age to the age he should have been.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Maybe God would immediately age to the age it should be and die instantaneously.

Cristina: If he leaves the garden. Whoa.

Jack: If he leaves the garden, the garden is keeping him immortal.

Cristina: Mm. What? I wonder if there's other magical creatures there, though. I mean, not magical, but talkative, I guess. Like the talking snake.

Jack: The talking snake, which is also in the Bible. Not even really Lucifer. I don't know what that's about.

Cristina: It's a snake, and it talks. Were there other animals or the talking birds? Yeah.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. It is fascinating to think about that. That maybe the source of his mortality, immortality, is the garden.

Cristina: Like the first story, though, of Lilith. Was she kicked out of the garden? Was she still living in the garden? I don't know, because she was still able to rape Adam and stuff, but.

Jack: I don't know, man. Now, the question here would be God trying to make another God. He's managing everything with messengers from within the fishbowl. So he sends messengers, tries to navigate how things happen, tricks people into doing things, causes tragedies, and once in a while, attacks directly.

Cristina: Yes. To attacks Earth.

Jack: Yeah. But he's doing all of this from the fishbowl, which is why we never see him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The closest thing he got was that clever trick of Jesus. He's like, well, I found the way to convert my energy into this other being that's sort of me, but not me. But he can be outside without me dying in here. And I can see through his eyes and I can move him around, but I'm gonna be limited in information and limited in ability.

Cristina: It feels like he's already really limited in many ways.

Jack: Compared to us, he's not. Yeah, he's way more free than we could ever be. But then Jesus is human, so, like, he's limited if you're comparing him to omniscience.

Cristina: Yeah, but, like, as far as humans.

Jack: Go, he's not limited by anything.

Cristina: Yeah. And.

Jack: And then there's Jesus is way out of the bubble until Jesus dies, until he gets killed. Because he's not infinitely powerful, that version of him is still mortal. It was the only way he could get outside of the bubble without him leaving the bubble.

Cristina: Personally, do you think he's gotten out of the bubble after that, though? Why would he just stop at Jesus?

Jack: Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he's many different people throughout time. This is the only way to experience anything.

Cristina: Yeah. Think he brought anyone back into that bubble? He kicked people out. And we know about those stories, but who says he hasn't kidnapped people? Unless that's what those stories of people going, there was a guy who just walked into heaven. I don't know who he was, but he walked up the stairs to heaven or something like that. Is he in the garden right now?

Jack: Heaven is not the garden.

Cristina: Heaven's not the garden. Where's God? He's not in heaven. Then.

Jack: God is not in heaven.

Cristina: He's in the garden.

Jack: God is in the garden.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Heaven is some other realm.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like h*** is probably just a shadow realm.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we call it some other crap, but ironically, angels come from there.

Cristina: So heaven and h*** could be the same place.

Jack: No, I think the liars that we know as Jehovah and his army, who say we're not only omniscient, but like, we're the good guys. And it's like you're the only guy who's drinking blood, so maybe you're not. Maybe the people who are like, go be one with nature are definitely on the right track. And you calling them the devil and then going and drinking blood, maybe you're wrong. But chances are more reason to go back into the shadow realm that the garden is located inside the shadow realm.

Cristina: The garden's in the shadow realm. But you don't think heaven.

Jack: It's already in a different plane.

Cristina: Do you think heaven's not a place then?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What do you think? That's a lie.

Jack: It's possible that either heaven or h*** is the shadow realm.

Cristina: Okay. Because I feel like it has both creatures. So it's most likely that all those locations are the same location.

Jack: It could be that all the other s*** is the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Yeah. So. Oh, back to the Shadow Realm.

Jack: And in the Shadow Realm, Somewhere in the Shadow Realm, this weird mazy confusing. Every direction leads to every direction mass there is the garden.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which God cannot leave.

Cristina: Except wait, I just remembered. He's a beaver here right now.

Jack: You're right. He's a beaver on this side. Well, he's actually a beaver groundhog. And he isn't even over here.

Cristina: Well, we don't know where he is.

Jack: We don't know. He could be a groundhog on this side. Or he's over there and he manifests as a groundhog on this side.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because his actual form is a groundhog. If he's over here, he's pretending, but he's over there. And people fearing for their weather conditions and season report for their crops. And we're going to be broke this year. That fear allows him to manifest and talk to them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So he could just be a being from the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: He could be okay. Yes. So the best choice is just to wait then. Just gotta be patient for him to pop up. Because we know when and where.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: So we'll get that groundhog.

Jack: Definitely. It's pretty interesting.

Cristina: That is. And if we somehow miss the groundhog wasn't there. I keep saying beaver, but I'm pretty sure in another country it's the talking beaver that gives them the weather. I think it was like different animals in different locations, but they're all around the world. The groundhog is just the closest one to us, so it'd be easiest to get him.

Jack: Fair. And I'm assuming every one of those regions has different gods as well. And different gods pretend to be different things as well as different kinds of ghosts and entities of those natures. Which goes to show that gods are just demigods who happen to inhabit certain regions of the Earth. Yeah, that's fascinating. And as for groundhogs and s***, My voice is almost recovered after he got bitten by that stupid f****** groundhog.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Soon I'll be back at a hundred percent. I can almost do high notes. Almost.

Cristina: So what are you right now, 75?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Cristina: Everyone's worried about you. There's like hundreds of thank you letters. I don't know why. Thank you.

Jack: Yes. Many, many thank you letters.

Cristina: It's really confusing.

Jack: Yes. They all heard I was hurt and they're all just thanking me.

Cristina: I think they think you're dying. Like this is it for you.

Jack: They think this is it.

Cristina: Yeah. So they're like, thank you for host. You're gonna be soon replaced by you again. But we want to thank you for the time you've been with us.

Jack: Yeah. It won't matter. They won't tell the difference.

Cristina: They won't tell the difference. No. So. But whatever they. They consider it if this is your passing away moment. But you're saying it's not.

Jack: I'm saying it's not. But thank you for all the thank you letters that we've received over the last couple of days following the previous episode where I talked about getting bitten by the groundhog that was just a normal non radioactive groundhog.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So thank you for all the thank you letters that we've gotten. It's great that that happened, I guess. You're welcome.

Cristina: You're welcome.

Jack: Welcome to all of you.

Cristina: Because this is it. I mean, this is the show. That's what you said in the beginning. This is the show.

Jack: This is the show. Yeah, it's the show. Anyways, so. Yeah. Hope you guys have some ideas or thoughts on anything we discussed right now. It'd be interesting to hear what you guys have to say about this. Is it making more sense? Are we reflecting defining what God is that we unmutty the Bible by saying that God is a groundhog from the shadow realm that exists inside of a fishbowl dimension that is known as the Garden of Eden and that humans are.

Cristina: Have the force and have adrenochrome as the shortcut force?

Jack: Yes, yes. We're just clarifying all the things. You guys know, you guys know how we do. We give you information. A little bit of good, a little bit of bad, some of the do's and don'ts. And this is my. Before you buy.

Cristina: What are they buying?

Jack: I don't know. Isn't that what that guy's friends, what is it? Some of the good, some of the bad. You know how we do. Before you buy. Anyways, yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you guys want more conversations of this nature, there are many. And the most recent episodes we've been sort of circling these topics, refining them. That way we know what our next steps are going to be. And you can find more episodes like that or like this or like any thing. Essentially, we cover everything under the sun. You can find that on Greathoughts.

Cristina: We have hundreds of episodes.

Jack: Yes. You can find that on greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook. Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate, and review the show, because that's always great to hear what you guys are thinking. So please go. If you're listening right now, if you made it this far, go review. Go review. You heard this far and you haven't left a review, go review and tell us what you genuinely thought. Take a moment, do it right now. It'll be awesome.

Cristina: And then we'll have to include an emoji.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: For this episode. What is it gonna be?

Jack: I don't know. Put a smiley of some sort.

Cristina: The one with the hearts.

Jack: No, put a poop emoji.

Cristina: Poop emoji. Okay.

Jack: There you go.

Cristina: Put a poop emoji, a true, honest review of the show, and a poof.

Jack: And a poop emoji at the true, honest review of the show, the right amount of stars that you believe we deserve, and then a poop emoji. Go do that now.

Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, incredibly powerful. And we're refining the meaning of science, religion, philosophy and everything. We're making it one. So, you know, tell people. Tell people who are trapped.

Cristina: They have to know.

Jack: Yeah. Tell people who are trapped in one of those systems so they can be trapped in all of them with us.

Cristina: Yes. Wow. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. It's very complicated.

Cristina: What made you think of that, though?

Jack: I don't know. I was just. It's just an im. I don't know what the f*** I was even doing, but the images popped into my head. I'm like, how weird and fat. I've been thinking about it for, like, a week straight.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. I'm like, this is so trippy.

Cristina: Is the Blue's Clues thing trippy, too, or not as trippy?

Jack: Holy sh. I didn't even connect those dots. I didn't think about it. But, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Blue skirt, dude, we can, too. Then they hop into a f******. But they live in a jumbled f****** mess.

Cristina: They do.

Jack: Weird to assume the coyote and the Roadrunner exists in, like, a relative reality.

Cristina: Or whatever, but the weird thing about them is that they can't normally jump into pictures. They have to announce that they're using Blue's powers of jumping into pictures.

Jack: What the f*** is Blue? Blue's some, like, mythical creature with powers, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like his.

Cristina: Blue, like the roadrunner. They have special powers.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Roadrunner is like Wile E. Coyote sometimes. Wile E. Coyote can break the laws of physics, too. It could break reality in his own instances. While Blue seems to kind of be like an omniscient God in his world or some s***, where he can however he wants. He's kind of like Deadpool.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning.

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