Rambling 151: Powerful Beings
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Was Jehovah a single person or a group of people? Are Jehovah’s angels just Zeus’ children rewritten? Are the soldiers in Jehovah’s army (angels) roughly as powerful as Jehovah, but they merely believe in his philosophy and follow him rather than attempting to replace him? The duo unpack the possibility that Jehovah and his angels were merely a powerful group of humans with adrenochrome on their side at war with other factions of humans achieving the same abilities awarded by adrenochrome but through other rituals and traditions. What they discover about Hitler and Jehovah in the process is something no one could have ever predicted!
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Topics Discussed
- Hitler
- Zeus
- Jehovah
- Adrenochrome
- Power
- Biblical Giants
- Small Humans
- Biblical Metaphors
- Omniscience
- Nothingness
- The Garden of Eden
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Jack: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yes. So be sure to pull someone close and scream at them that this is the show. This, the Just Conversation podcast, is the show. You're gonna be like, what do you mean? And you're gonna be like, it's the show. Be like, but what? The show.
Cristina: The what?
Jack: Which of the many? And why is this? And it's like, no, no, no, it's the show. There's one show and it's that show. It's like, no, but what about, like, Supernatural? And it's like, no, no, no, no. That's not real. Only the Just Conversation podcast is real.
Cristina: Is a real show or is real like.
Jack: No, it's a real show.
Cristina: Historically, both. Okay.
Jack: We are the show that's ever existed. Everything else is an illusion created by the Matrix. Anyway, so we were talking about how Jehovah.
Cristina: Right.
Jack: Everybody listening? We're back on this.
Cristina: Yes, whatever. We can't help it.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the angels are based on the Greek gods. We know that exact thing. Even with the Dead Sea Scrolls continuously being uncovered, all we're finding out is that it's basically a copy and paste of a bunch of Greek mythology s***.
Cristina: Yes, that sounds right.
Jack: So the same way that all the angels, all the gods were sort of equal to Zeus, maybe slightly less powerful, but they were equal in that Zeus is a demigod. He's a flesh person who you can kill and will stay dead. And all the other gods are essentially the same thing. My argument is that Jehovah, being based on this, works the same way. Now, he is the loudest, and he claims to be the one and only God, but I think all the angels are.
Cristina: Would it be equal to him?
Jack: Would be equal to him to some degree.
Cristina: Like, all the demigods would be equal.
Jack: To Zeus, all the gods to Zeus the way. All the angels to Jehovah. And the example I have is that Hitler was one man.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And there were millions of soldiers under his control, but they're all men.
Cristina: I mean, they were all equal to him.
Jack: Yeah. They're all Equal to him. But we don't know any of them.
Cristina: They're superhuman.
Jack: Yeah. We don't know a single one of them. And he is not special. Hitler was not special. He was just another person.
Cristina: But he made himself special.
Jack: He made himself special. He was the loudest, he was the scariest, he was the most ruthless. And as a result, he's who we remember. The same applies for Zeus, who was particularly ruthless and violent. And same applied to Jehovah. Jehovah was what, at the beginning? Aggressive, ruthless, monstrous, murderous, destroy, whatever. Until people are like, if we stop f****** with him, he will stop retaliating. Yeah, let's just listen. And then what? He just became a passive, kind guy because, like, everything is in the orders that I wanted it to be.
Cristina: But he had to be that tough guy first.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Weird. Yes, he is. He could be just another angel. Like, angel could just be the word for God or gods or demigods or whatever.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: 100% equal. But in all these. In all these stories about gods, whether it's Christianity or. What was the one that you just mentioned?
Jack: Greek mythology?
Cristina: Greek mythology or Norse mythology? Norse mythology. Thank you. Norse mythology. They all have giants as well in these stories. They're giants. And giants seem to be something other than human and gods, or at least that's why I feel like that's what's going on. If there are giants in the Christian book, what are they? Are they aliens?
Jack: Well, there's an interesting question there, because there are giants in the Christian Bible, especially the one that David fought.
Cristina: But in the Bible, they're human and angel babies. Right. Or something like that.
Jack: Well, Goliath wasn't. Goliath was just a giant that I believe was human.
Cristina: Oh, he was just a. But he's a giant human. He's not a giant giant. You know, like in.
Jack: No, I think he was abnormally huge. I think he was an impossible size.
Cristina: Oh, like an actual giant?
Jack: Like an actual giant.
Cristina: Oh, so then what are these giants?
Jack: Okay, so an easy argument for this would be people were smaller in the past. If you trace us far back enough, we're actually at our tallest proportion moment. Yes. Okay, well, it's complicated because it branches off in two different directions. Right. We began as smaller humans, but we were taller apes. So when we were still in the ape age.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We were pretty big.
Cristina: For apes.
Jack: For apes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And this is in the period where we started standing up on two legs and, like, looking around in that. Like, we were pretty tall around that time. Neanderthals, that kind of s***. We're talking huge. But then we enter the human ish era. We're humanoid and almost human.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then for whatever reason, there's a crazy dip and we're very small. Through the beginning of humanity, we're still.
Cristina: Big compared to apes, we're still small.
Jack: We're pretty small. We're talking like average height being anywhere between four, five and five feet.
Cristina: Whoa. Okay. What?
Jack: And we know that people can be as tall as 7ft, 9 inches, 9, 8ft. What's tallest human? Like, okay, we got huge f****** people.
Cristina: Yeah. But not many.
Jack: Almost twice the size of the average. If the average was four or five.
Cristina: Yeah. Are those giants?
Jack: So these people are technically giant? I think you're technically giant after you pass like six, six or something.
Cristina: But that's not what they're talking about in these stories.
Jack: Well, we don't know, because the problem with interpreting the Bible literally is that it's a book of metaphors to begin with.
Cristina: What about the other books, are they also metaphors?
Jack: I don't know. Assuming that these are also periods of time when they were. How do I put it? Okay. If you were to say, what is the past of Asia look like? Asians are usually pretty small. So were they smaller? Evolution tells us yes, probably. But then we look at something like Africans that are really tall.
Cristina: I don't.
Jack: If two of these people were to.
Cristina: Cross paths, would one see the other as a giant? Is that what you're saying?
Jack: Chances are in the past we would have seen the other as a giant.
Cristina: If we didn't know that they were people already.
Jack: Their skin already looks different. We've never encountered these people before. All we know is that they're humanoid, but literally twice the size of any of us.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's a giant. And when you write about that, that's a giant. And if they've never encountered you and you've never encountered them, Fear and hostility is human response, survival.
Cristina: Yeah. So they weren't really giants battling gods then. He's in a lot of these stories. It's a power, like fight between giants and gods for whatever.
Jack: I mean, for power, whatever. It's possible. Let's look at, let's compare these two situations. Right. You have Jehovah, all his angels waging war. We have Zeus, all the gods waging war.
Cristina: Yeah. And the Titans that are giants.
Jack: Yes. In these two cases we have the loudest guy who we know of and their army. Like we said, Hitler and his army.
Cristina: Okay, Right.
Jack: If this was taking place so long ago that it was let's say, I don't know the first f****** year, but the same event. So there's a guy who's a Hitler equivalent, super loud, surrounded by people just like him. But he's the loudest, he's the scariest, he's more ruthless. And there's a group of rebels who come from somewhere else. These rebels come from a. Now this Hitler is taking place in Asia. He's a short guy. We are terrorizing. We don't know if there's anything outside of Asia. We're over here terrorizing everything in Asia. Taking over, expanding, trying to explore what there is. And then these people popped out of nowhere. And they're like, that's wrong, what they're doing. But they're African. They're very tall, they're old school African. Like 6, 5, every single one of them. And over here, you're all four or five, every single one of you.
Cristina: So you're saying that these characters are probably based on humans, then it's not gods at all.
Jack: It's not gods at all. It was just some guy whose loudness was godly.
Cristina: Yeah, it's like in, what is it, North Korea, where he convinced everyone that he is pretty much God and he can't. Like, he doesn't need to use the bathroom and stuff like that. Like, there's stories like that about whoever this ruling evil dude is. This ancient Hitler.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. And I think that it's possible that the giants we've heard about were just an opposing team. The other people.
Cristina: The other people. Okay, I guess.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What? So it's not really. But then none of these stories matter when it comes to what could exist besides us.
Jack: Yes. Because everything is a story about us. And we just have to keep in mind that we are speaking metaphorically at all times in these books. So when we say giants. Well, what does it mean? Tall guy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: When we say God, maybe people in power, people with weapons, people can cause damage. People who other people listen to because.
Cristina: They just seem magical because of that. Because they have abilities.
Jack: No, no, no. It's not even magical. Those are also just metaphors.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Jack: Everything is a metaphor.
Cristina: Yes, yes. Everything's a metaphor. Okay, okay. Take the magic out of it.
Jack: Take the magic out of it. Yeah. It's just loud people and war and crap of that nature.
Cristina: What? I guess. And it's just a history book.
Jack: It's a history book of metaphoric stories.
Cristina: Yes, all the books.
Jack: All the books.
Cristina: All the books are telling the same story, which are all metaphors.
Jack: Which is funny when you talk about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Right. And these things are being brought out, discovered, and they're just talking about the stories in the Bible, and the Christians are grabbing this s*** and running like, hey, a different book is talking about the same stories that took place in the Bible. What? And it's like, oh, my God. If you guys look at the text, you'll find out that the Bible was written using these texts, not the other way around. Not the other way around. It's not that two different groups of people saw the same events and wrote about them. It's that the Bible is based on these books who are based on those.
Cristina: Books, who are based on those other books who are based on those other books.
Jack: Like, and so the Christians are like a second. No, it's the same. It's the first version of the book you're reading?
Cristina: Yes, it's the first draft.
Jack: Yeah, it's the first draft. Well, you're like, wow, different. No, it's not different. It's the same book, but in.
Cristina: For the Dead. For the Dead Sea Scrolls. How can they read those? Is it even possible?
Jack: It's in Hebrew.
Cristina: Okay. So they can translate it somehow. Okay.
Jack: I mean, it's.
Cristina: I don't know how old they are. No, I didn't know it was still a common language that those were written in.
Jack: Oh, yeah, yeah, they were in Hebrew.
Cristina: Hasn't that language changed since then?
Jack: Yeah, but the language is still pretty, like, used pretty common. It's kind of widespread. And you can just ask somebody to read it to you. Like, the difference between Old English and now is hearing somebody talk about it. But if you were to read it, you can still pick up on what they're saying.
Cristina: Yeah, but it makes me. It reminds me of that story of that someone went through the Bible and then changed everything for other words to tell a whole new story where the Bible is actually about aliens and their experiment with humans and they were using the Hebrew language and giving different meanings, but it's the same word. But I guess that word has multiple meanings, so you can just change it to whatever you want it to mean, as long as it's the word. Because that word could mean. You know what I mean?
Jack: Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about and who you're talking about. I forget his name, but I know what you mean. And in the case that you're currently talking about the Bible being the story about aliens or whatever, out of the two possibilities that we're faced with, either say the Bible is being Literal? Well, in assuming the Bible is telling real events that were of supernatural proportions, at least us.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: Whether it be powers or science, the latter seems more likely because the words that they have in the time that the words were being used and written actually align more with the guy's argument about it being associated with foreignness and aliens as opposed to gods and perfection. So it's more likely that what they meant was aliens. That is fact.
Cristina: But I'm assuming no one's going to read those scrolls in using that way.
Jack: Of thinking, because they're already going to say that. Well, at least if they're Christian, they're going to look at it. Or Hebrew or anybody who believes in the religions of Jehovah.
Cristina: Yeah, they're going to translate it using those words that they're familiar with.
Jack: Yeah, the translation has to fit. It's the confirmation bias you're going to go in with. This is what it should sound like. So anything I read I gotta fix for being like this.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Versus reading it and knowing how the words were used at the time that it was written. So what they most likely mean which the guy you're talking about wrote a book explaining how the words were used previously.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And how when they were written in the Bible, there's no way they could have meant water when they meant the heavens or something like that.
Cristina: Yeah, he gets really into it.
Jack: Yes, I can remember his name. Name. But yeah, I know who you're talking about. In any case, it's always more likely than that there are aliens, than that there is a divine being who designed anything and everything somehow existing from outside reality.
Cristina: There can't be something outside. I don't be.
Jack: That doesn't make any sense. In fact, the idea that something or.
Cristina: They can be, but it can't be inside too.
Jack: The idea that something even thinks is an idea from within reality.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Oh, that's how complicated it is. Even the concept of perception, awareness. Consciousness is inside is a concept that exists within reality. For anything to have awareness and make everything else, you would have needed awareness to begin with, which is impossible to have it before reality in which that came to be exists.
Cristina: What?
Jack: So there could not be just definitively there could not be a God based on that. At least not an omniscient everywhere, all the time God, No. And the best we have for that is still from within reality. Which is to say, how did our universe come to be? And that's where we have nothingness observed by consciousness. We still don't know where the place where those two Things are is we know it's within. I guess it's reality.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Even if there's no universe, there's no space, time. There is just nothingness and consciousness. Those things still exist within reality.
Cristina: Can we prove that there's nothing? No, we can't.
Jack: No, it would be impossible.
Cristina: This is a question. You have to ask it. I don't know. I know there's no answer to that, but it's just.
Jack: Yes. The answer is there is nothing. There's as much nothing as there is something. They're both infinite.
Cristina: But can you prove it? How do you prove that nothing's there?
Jack: By proving that something is here.
Cristina: And that's enough.
Jack: It's easy. In order for something to be in a place, there must have been nothing there first. Otherwise the something could not go there because there's already something there. You need nothing there first in order to put this new something there. Okay, well, because we are here, there must have been nothing here.
Cristina: Because we are here, there must have been nothing.
Jack: Because if there was something here, we could not be here.
Cristina: Yes. That is so complicated.
Jack: Nothingness has to be just as likely as somethingness. But we can never experience a moment of nothingness, difference.
Cristina: Mmm. We cannot experience nothing that is complicated. But that's more about death than anything. That's complicated. Because then what is after life? Yeah.
Jack: More perception. Definitely.
Cristina: You don't think there could be a nothing?
Jack: We couldn't experience it no matter what we would continue to experience. That's why I don't fear death.
Cristina: Because you have to experience something.
Jack: Because the however long you experience nothing for, you'll be unaware that you experienced nothing. The example is always you die or you're dying and the light is slowly fading. And then the second it goes to black, a split second goes by, and then the light starts expanding again. And then you just pop out of somebody's v*****.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So you never stopped perceiving? Yeah, there was just more of the same. Or you die. You're dying. You're on your deathbed. You're an old man. You're about to leave your soul, you're about to leave your body. Everything is dying. The lights are going out. And then suddenly everything starts to fractalize and starts to break apart.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then there's just a bunch of parts everywhere. And you're still witnessing the part, but the concept of you is gone. But you're still watching the people who were your family slowly decompose into nothing that looks like just parts. You watch your body. You're Surrounded by decompose into nothing. And now you're still here, perceiving this soup of something.
Cristina: Do you? Huh? I guess. If that's true. And then you just. You're just born afterwards. Is it. Are you in the nothing? You wouldn't be born.
Jack: No, the previous scenario. You're born. In this scenario. You've died and crossed to some other plane of existence. Smooth. It was seamless. There was never here's space with nothing in it. Yeah, that never happened. You just went from, hey, you're sitting across from me. Christina, I'm on my deathbed. You come and you visit me next to my deathbed on my last moment. And you're like, hey, it was real fun to do this show with you, but you're dying. And I'm like, yeah. And then I see you. Slowly as the light goes away, you start to get fuzzier and fuzzier. And then you become so fuzzy. You're blending into the wall now because it's also fuzzy. Before long, everything is sort of uniform, but not. This is a mix of colors and stuff. And I also forget in that same progression, slowly start forgetting more and more of who I am until there is no me, There is no you. There's nothing. I don't remember anything. Because remembering is irrelevant here. Yeah, but I'm still perceiving. I've not stopped perceiving. Now I'm just seeing this mesh of colors. And now I start to decipher what this mesh of color means. And thus forming my new reality.
Cristina: That makes sense. Yes, that's probably it. Why wouldn't it be?
Jack: Why wouldn't it be? That's how we were born in the first place. We popped out, everything was a blur of colors. And we started just piecing together what that meant.
Cristina: Yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. And we're like, okay, well, this mixture always means Mom. That mixture is always Mom. That's a chair over there. Some before long. Chair. Table. Mom. Christina. Tv.
Cristina: Red. Blue.
Jack: Red. Blue. Yeah, but then I'll forget all that s*** again.
Cristina: Yes, but there's never nothing.
Jack: Couldn't be. We couldn't perceive nothing. Otherwise it wouldn't be nothing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The moment we can perceive it, it's something.
Cristina: It's so confusing. It's not confusing, but it is complicated. Yeah.
Jack: It's possible to discuss. Impossible to imagine.
Cristina: Yes. Yes. What's less impossible is the. What's that thing we call now The Force? What are we calling it?
Jack: Yeah, the Force.
Cristina: The Force. Guess what? In. I'm not finished with the story, though. But I'm going to talk about what I've read so far.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: In Prince Lestat, the vampires, they're not just vampires. There's a starting point, if you remember from part two. There was the first vampire, but there was something that made the first vampire.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: It was some type of creature. I don't know what it is. When I picture the creature, it looks like the thing from Fullmetal Alchemist. The little black thing with an eye from the gate. From the Gate. Well, I don't know. But he was also in the real world with their dad. He had him in a little thing.
Jack: And pride was also made out of him.
Cristina: Oh, yes, yes. Well, that thing, he's in Prince Lest. That. Well, not. He's not in that story. Or maybe he is. I'm not sure. But whatever, he was in the First Vampire, and that's how the vampires were made. And in the newest book, there is a problem with creating vampires now. And a vampire's theory is that this thing that made the first vampire, it's. It's kind of like in all the vampires. And it's reached its limit of how far it could reach with its powers or whatever. Like it has a limit. It reminds me, though, of the Force and how we say if you use the Force too much. I don't remember what happens if you talk about how it's bad to use the Force too much. The dark side is bad to abuse it. Yes, it's bad to abuse it because.
Jack: Whatever, it'll turn on you.
Cristina: It'll turn. Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: You're weakening it or something.
Cristina: Yeah. So I feel like this story is pretty much following the rules, that all these other things that are like that are following.
Jack: That makes me think of the movie, the one. The one where Jet Li went around killing all the other versions of himself and every one of them he would kill would spread that one's energy amongst all the other versions of him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then where there were two, they were so inhumanly strong, they're superhuman.
Cristina: Yeah. Because that power has a limit.
Jack: Yes. So if that's what's happening in the story, then it's possible. If they just start killing vampires, the vampires who have those powers will get stronger progressively.
Cristina: Well, they get stronger progressively just by aging, too.
Jack: Yes, but if they murdered all the vampires.
Cristina: Well, there's maybe. I don't know what's happening in this world. But my guess is this creature is so tired of all the vampires that are around, it's trying to convince vampires, the older ones the strong ones to murder other vampires, all the weak ones because there's so many weak vampires. And I guess he's sick and tired of all these vampire. He's sick and tired of sharing this energy because it is him. And so he's getting these older vampires to kill them off because he is the energy. And I guess he's tired or he's being wasted and he's sick of it. So he needs some of them to die.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: Does that make sense? I feel like it makes. I don't know if that's what's happening, but that's what I think is happening.
Jack: It would make sense. Yeah. You did release some of the power and spread yourself less than.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: Makes sense.
Cristina: But I wonder if the force works like that too.
Jack: Possible.
Cristina: Like in the flash. It does seem like that.
Jack: Yes. There is the amount of force to go around. And if too many people are using it then other people don't have access to it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It is completely possible. Yes.
Cristina: It's interesting they all work like that.
Jack: Because you have to think that the universal energy that exists everywhere is being used by everybody. There is a sort of amount of individuals that could be tuned in at any one moment.
Cristina: There is an amount that there's.
Jack: Okay. Most people probably use the energy small time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So if somebody's using a f*** ton of it somewhere in the universe, 99.99% of everything is using fractions of it and doesn't even. Like they can still use it because the chunk free is so big by comparison that that small tiny chunk could still be spread out amongst a whole planet.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know like everybody on earth using it at the smallest percentage. A small fraction of the force can use the force at the same time that somebody else where is using 70% of it in one shot. Because that 25 is still a ton of energy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But now if two creatures or two civilizations decided to use 75% at the same time. We're not advanced enough to do that.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Or we haven't found things like that. And if we did, we could destroy this plan by acc. If somebody had that kind of power. But if somebody does and there's two of them, who knows how often these people are using it. So those people can't.
Cristina: Yeah. That would start a huge problem.
Jack: That would start a huge problem. Now we don't encounter that because we're primitive in every case. Whether it be magic, whether it be science, whatever the case, we're primitive.
Cristina: But if there's something on Earth right now because it reminds me of adrenochrome and towers falling for the blood. And what if that's also involved in.
Jack: It's not enough.
Cristina: It's not enough.
Jack: Small potatoes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We're talking even the gods from within Earth, Zeus, Jehovah, these people. Right.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They could both simultaneously use the energy and it would still not. They could both use as much as they know how. And there would still be energy to go around. And it would still be an insignificant amount because they're still regional. One is from Greek.
Cristina: Yeah. But there was still problems though. But I guess that's because with each other more than. I mean, like in their little groups. There was a bigger problem.
Jack: Yeah, but doesn't. We're talking about the force. It's not causing any force disturbance.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because they can both use it effectively.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we haven't drained. Now, if everybody on Earth had the same capacity to use it that Zeus and Jehovah did, would then. That created then. Or are we still talking small potatoes because it's still one planet.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's something out there so powerful it took over the Great Void.
Cristina: And how could that be? If there was a limit.
Jack: If there. There is a limit.
Cristina: If there.
Jack: But they were using. And keep in mind how small the Great Void is as compared to the rest of the universe. It's so small. We look and we got to look really far and we see it really small. We just know that it's huge because we still see it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But it's far and tiny. So that took an immense amount of energy.
Cristina: That definitely did. Yeah.
Jack: If somebody did that with raw power, not just science, but using some sort of power.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Can two beings do that? Now we're talking a different scale.
Cristina: Mm. And you think they can do that?
Jack: I think yes. I don't know. Can two at the same time. But also that's such a small amount. Like, how big is the power distribution we're talking about if it's using the entire universe, if the whole universe is using the same energy source.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: How big are we talking? And like, is our universe old enough to even have beings that can wield such exaggeration? Or has it been.
Cristina: It seems like we can't all share it though. Or if we're looking at like full metal alchemists. They needed to kill people to. To share it between the powerful people that are using or whatever. Or was that not needed for the energy to be used? I feel like it related.
Jack: No, because they are using something different. They use energy to make transmutation. You Mean philosopher stones.
Cristina: Okay, that's.
Jack: No, it's the same exchange. If every one transmutation required a death.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Right. Then the philosopher's stone is cashing in your deaths ahead of time to then use the power later.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Same concept.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's just. When are you paying?
Cristina: Yeah. That is so complicated. That's. That's. That show is just so dark. But there is a limit. But there's no way to reach that limit.
Jack: There is a way to reach that limit. We just don't know what.
Cristina: We can't reach it.
Jack: Yeah. And we can't fathom what would there should be. Because there is a limit.
Cristina: Has someone reached that limit?
Jack: Probably not. What is the lifetime of God? What. What. What numbers would we give if he can outlive our entire universe? In fact, our entire universe is the fraction of a second to God. But he lives 100 years his time. So if a fraction of a second. Right. We hadron collider. We smash two atoms together. Boom. The conditions of the universe. A whole civilization happens in that small space. A whole universe happens. Bunch of galaxies, bunch of planets, a bunch of civilizations. 50 trillion years go by and then that universe dies. Great. Sweet. Okay, fine. Universe is dead after trillions. That was a fraction of a second. How long in comparison to that fraction of a second will I. Is my time if I'm 100 years old and that's I'm just die at 100 normal a** f****** life. But that I'm the guy who smashed the two atoms together and made that. So in that timescale, we're now in the universe that is going to expire in 50 trillion years. But all of this has been a moment God doesn't even notice is happening because it's happening so quick.
Cristina: Yes, but we're somehow using his energy or.
Jack: Well, my point would be at that scale, what is a minute? What is a day? Could we fathom what a second is?
Cristina: No.
Jack: A second is long as h***. A second could be the entire. Actually this whole universe exists in less than one second of God.
Cristina: Okay. Okay.
Jack: If we convert that to energy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's nothing like it's. It could expire.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: In a normal. God is going to die in a.
Cristina: But it took a lot of energy to make us, though.
Jack: It took such insignificant energy to run the hadron colliders that we still have everything else in the planet working simultaneously.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Do you see?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Just to smash two atoms together and create a whole universe. It took so little energy, most people don't even know that Machine exists.
Cristina: All right?
Jack: Nobody noticed anything happened.
Cristina: Everyone feared for the worst.
Jack: Nobody knew. That's all just stories from people who were looking into it.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Nobody knew what was happening. Oh, and it's happened many times.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh, those are all fake stories.
Jack: So in these cases, one fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second to a hundred years. So to a full life amount of energy, what is our universe? Insignificant?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's easy to waste the energy. Something could use it. Is there anything within here who could use it? I don't. F***.
Cristina: Probably not. Is adrenochrome the closest we get to that, though?
Jack: Adrenochrome? Isn't that. Is adrenochrome connected to the Force?
Cristina: I don't know. That's why I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it is.
Jack: No, I think adrenochrome is a shortcut.
Cristina: To what?
Jack: To not have to use the Force, but acquire all the same things. Okay. Think of what Alan Watt says. You could meditate into an entirely new perspective of viewing the world and understanding reality. Or you could f****** take acid. Like acid is good to show you the window. But learn how to get there on your own.
Cristina: Oh, okay. It's better to learn how to get there.
Jack: It's not better, it's just a different way. He suggests learn together on your own. But who cares if you can get there?
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The point being that while we have. Actually, I have an idea. I lost my train of thought.
Cristina: We talk about how adrenochrome is a shortcut to blind.
Jack: Oh, yeah. Then adrenochrome would in any case be the asset. It's like the Force is the way there, but not everybody's connected to it. Not everybody has a He man sword or Power Ranger powers or f****** this or that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Jedi mind tricks or whatever. Sometimes you just take adrenochrome and you get there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And it's instant versus a bunch of Pragues and studying monks can get there. Spend their whole lives, mind you, instantly when you meet them, what the f*** is happening?
Cristina: Or take adrenochrome.
Jack: Take Adrenochrome.
Cristina: No practice.
Jack: But also the same things would happen. People who practice and learn how to use the things, are they out there causing trouble?
Cristina: Trouble? No, never. But they don't have withdrawal, which I guess is a good.
Jack: Yes, that's another good.
Cristina: That's a good thing.
Jack: But also they're not out there causing. Because they learn how to wield it. Yeah, but if you got the power overnight. Do you know how to wield it? No, you just got crazy abilities. It's the same idea of when we were having that episode about the mass shooting maybe two, three seasons ago, and me and Blake were talking about our guns bad and our people bad. And it's like, no, not really. Yes, people die all the time. But if you gave everybody a gun overnight. Well, actually, we're talking about the Internet particularly, which was. Is the Internet evil? It's like, no, the Internet is just a brand new creation. And we don't know what the f*** we're doing.
Cristina: We definitely don't know what we're doing with the Internet or with guns.
Jack: With the Internet or with guns. Well, we know how to use guns. More guns really don't cause that much of a problem.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: If you gave everybody a gun, we kind of get it. But before anybody knew what a gun. This is how I proved my point. Before anybody knew what a gun was. If suddenly I invented guns today and I just happened to make enough of them to give everybody a gun. A lot of people are gonna die.
Cristina: Yes. No one knew about what it was.
Jack: Yeah, a lot of people are gonna die because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Even after we see a couple of people dying, people can be. Well, I could defend my house with her. I could do this without. People are gonna shoot each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing. Same goes for the Internet. We don't know what the f*** we're doing. We're just screaming at each other because we don't know what the f*** we're doing.
Cristina: Yes. Because they're complicated. Because people shoot themselves.
Jack: Yeah, but those are accidents. That. That doesn't happen often.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's probably the. In Earth history, every year, maybe 10 people shoot themselves by accident.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Like, it's not worth the mention.
Cristina: Okay, but it happened.
Jack: Yes, but also some dude fell upstairs. That's also something that happened once. Like, it's fine once in a.
Cristina: Like, I don't know, just once.
Jack: Weird things happen. Never. Look at the anecdotal anomaly that doesn't fall into the act.
Cristina: Like the lady who killed her husband with a squirrel or something.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Like when the only one time in a lifetime.
Jack: Yeah. Like, it's pointless to be like, well, that one thing happened. Like, who gives a s***? It'll never happen again.
Cristina: Yeah. Unless we got to worry about people trying to kill other people with squirrels. That becomes a thing.
Jack: Those circumstances are so highly specific.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They don't matter.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. With all that comes the equivalent of the Force, and we can't do that. We. With something we don't know how to use, which is how we end up with people just having withdrawal, desperately trying to get as much adrenochrome as possible, doing weird things and abusing their power. Meanwhile, the people who practice to get to the same place don't give a. Yeah, they're just enjoying it.
Cristina: Yeah. Cool.
Jack: Interesting point, now that I think about it, though.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Thinking about Hitler and his army and Jehovah and his army and Zeus and his army, essentially. Maybe the same person, whatever this army was, was definitely tuned into the Force themselves, wasn't it? Not Hitler's army.
Cristina: Well, we don't know for sure.
Jack: But like Jehovah's army, just humans, not even demigods, just humans who tuned into the Force and collectively, quite some power. Not only is the leader, the most powerful, most ruthless, most dangerous one, and the one we all know about and refer to the rest of the movement as, but all the other people also, they learn and they practice and they studied together.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So they could know how to use the Force and with that, use the power to suppress everyone else.
Cristina: Yeah. That's so weird because I was thinking about giants and how, like, what if they're the ones using adrenochrome because they're doing weird things, too, besides that they're giant. They're usually doing the weird same things that the gods are doing. They have a different title and they look different, obviously, but they're doing pretty much the same things. They're kind of equal.
Jack: What do you mean by doing the same things?
Cristina: Like, they can do the same powers or they have the same strength or whatever. You want to describe it, they turn into birds. They turn into birds. Like, there's no difference except for their title.
Jack: So you're saying God is a title to a type of human?
Cristina: Yes, they're calling themselves gods, and we call them gods because they call themselves gods and they call themselves giants. So we do the same.
Jack: Maybe they didn't call themselves any of that and we called them all that.
Cristina: Okay. But they were still both. Like, what's the difference of the two groups?
Jack: There's no difference. It's just two different, like, ethnic groups at most using the Force, Adrenochrome or the Force. Or in any case, maybe one was using one and the other was using the other. It looks like outside of religion, people aim towards other means. Witchcraft. You don't need blood for f****** witchcraft unless you're doing black magic, which is circling right back to the same s***.
Cristina: You just reminded me. God needs blood. So they're the ones doing a dream of Chrome. If anyone's doing adrenochrome, it's the gods.
Jack: Yeah, well, again, like what I'm saying, anybody outside of religion is doing magic. They're doing meditation. They're doing.
Cristina: They're using the forest.
Jack: They're using the forest. Anybody within religion, it's a whole different story. Using adrenochrome, they're cheating. They don't have the natural ability. Although they go around telling everybody. Everyone else is using the bad thing, but everybody else is doing what? Using nature.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So a quick example would be, right, you go to church and they tell you we're going to chant together, and you are going to pretend to drink blood and pretend to eat flesh. Sit down, shut up and listen to me. Good guys, according to themselves. And then they'll point at the other side and be like, those are the bad guys. What are the bad guys doing? Stay in touch with nature.
Cristina: Yes, that's what I was going to say. Instead of listening to what someone else is saying, you're listening to nature and hearing what it tells you.
Jack: Yeah. Be introspective. Ask what's right and what's wrong. Question everything. The. The story of the apple. Why is God so dedicated to not having Adam and Eve eat the apple? It's like, why don't you want them to. You made the perfect things. You don't want them to have knowledge.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Why don't you want them to have not? Of course, chances are he found that f****** garden.
Cristina: I don't think he ate that apple.
Jack: I don't think God was a. God wasn't allowed to eat that.
Cristina: He wasn't allowed to. He was like, you guys can't have it because I can't have it.
Jack: I think that's exactly what happened. I think God was not allowed to eat the apple. And he is an angry and jealous God according to himself.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: So if he was angry that he couldn't and jealous that they could. No, f*** it. My God doesn't talk to them. I'm not gonna let them eat either.
Cristina: Except that they. Because he's not perfect. Like, whoever made him. Or not as perfect, you know, whatever.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: They could not listen to him, which he has to, I guess, listen to whoever made him.
Jack: Yes. He can't actually eat the apple. There's nothing he could do to eat that apple. Yeah, but they could.
Cristina: But they could. Yes. And they did What? That makes sense.
Jack: God doesn't have all the information. It's possible Adam and Eve had more information. Yep.
Cristina: Whoa. Do you think they shared it with us? Did we bury that information?
Jack: No, I think we actively suppress that information. I think religion does a pretty good effort of trying to suppress the real information that's out there, while Adam and Eve knew the real information that was out there. But we cut their stories short and remove what they're saying a lot of the time.
Cristina: This is because there is no story. They just gave birth to a bunch of children. The end.
Jack: Yeah. We don't talk about the fact that they knew everything.
Cristina: Yeah. Did they teach their children? Yeah. I don't know. That's interesting. What if God couldn't eat the apple?
Jack: It's doubtful that he could. Yeah, he probably never eat the apple. He probably didn't make that garden. That cartoon is just his home. It's his fishbowl.
Cristina: It's his fishbowl.
Jack: It's his fishbowl to where something greater is just watching God.
Cristina: But then when he kicked them out, what did he kick them out into?
Jack: The world.
Cristina: The world? Is that inside his fishbowl?
Jack: No, he kicked them out of the.
Cristina: Fishbowl where he lives.
Jack: He lives. God can't leave the fishbowl. That's why he's obligated to do other things, to communicate. For whatever reason, Lucifer and Jehovah are bound to their respective locations because they have to do other things to communicate. They have to send a physical. Not physical, but like an energy based thing. Talk to you through a bush. Talk to you through your dreams. Send the messenger angel because he cannot leave.
Cristina: Oh, crap. He is trapped wherever he is.
Jack: God is in prison.
Cristina: Yes. He's in prison. No. I don't know.
Jack: He's trapped wherever he is. He has messengers for days and he has tricks for days. I can talk to you through any number of. Why don't you come down?
Cristina: I'll blind you.
Jack: He's got excuses. Oh, like, bro, you've destroyed the earth many times.
Cristina: Doesn't matter.
Jack: You don't care. No, but he's trapped wherever he is. It's a fishbowl.
Cristina: It's a fishbowl. Yes.
Jack: And it's probably the garden.
Cristina: But is that fishbowl near here? In here? In this reality?
Jack: Could be. Maybe. Could be a pocket dimension.
Cristina: A pocket dimension.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What?
Jack: And it could be that in kicking people out, he sent them out to the earth where they weren't meant to be. Maybe that's why we're destroying Earth. We weren't meant to be here. We were all supposed to be in this garden that would grow proportionately with the number of people that are in there for all of infinity. The garden would always be the right size for the number of people there. Yes, but the planet doesn't grow by itself.
Cristina: No. That's interesting.
Jack: We sent out people who were never meant to die in the first place. Also in the garden. They were immortal.
Cristina: They were immortal. Okay.
Jack: Ate the apple and then were kicked out and given mortality. I don't think that's how that story really goes. I think as long as you're in the garden, you're mortal, you're immortal, and as long as you're outside of the garden, you're mortal. Maybe God is too old to leave the garden. He might die instantaneously. It's like if Dorian Gray looked at his picture 200 years later.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He would immediately age to the age he should have been.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Maybe God would immediately age to the age it should be and die instantaneously.
Cristina: If he leaves the garden. Whoa.
Jack: If he leaves the garden, the garden is keeping him immortal.
Cristina: Mm. What? I wonder if there's other magical creatures there, though. I mean, not magical, but talkative, I guess. Like the talking snake.
Jack: The talking snake, which is also in the Bible. Not even really Lucifer. I don't know what that's about.
Cristina: It's a snake, and it talks. Were there other animals or the talking birds? Yeah.
Jack: Interesting. Interesting. It is fascinating to think about that. That maybe the source of his mortality, immortality, is the garden.
Cristina: Like the first story, though, of Lilith. Was she kicked out of the garden? Was she still living in the garden? I don't know, because she was still able to rape Adam and stuff, but.
Jack: I don't know, man. Now, the question here would be God trying to make another God. He's managing everything with messengers from within the fishbowl. So he sends messengers, tries to navigate how things happen, tricks people into doing things, causes tragedies, and once in a while, attacks directly.
Cristina: Yes. To attacks Earth.
Jack: Yeah. But he's doing all of this from the fishbowl, which is why we never see him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The closest thing he got was that clever trick of Jesus. He's like, well, I found the way to convert my energy into this other being that's sort of me, but not me. But he can be outside without me dying in here. And I can see through his eyes and I can move him around, but I'm gonna be limited in information and limited in ability.
Cristina: It feels like he's already really limited in many ways.
Jack: Compared to us, he's not. Yeah, he's way more free than we could ever be. But then Jesus is human, so, like, he's limited if you're comparing him to omniscience.
Cristina: Yeah, but, like, as far as humans.
Jack: Go, he's not limited by anything.
Cristina: Yeah. And.
Jack: And then there's Jesus is way out of the bubble until Jesus dies, until he gets killed. Because he's not infinitely powerful, that version of him is still mortal. It was the only way he could get outside of the bubble without him leaving the bubble.
Cristina: Personally, do you think he's gotten out of the bubble after that, though? Why would he just stop at Jesus?
Jack: Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he hasn't. Maybe he's many different people throughout time. This is the only way to experience anything.
Cristina: Yeah. Think he brought anyone back into that bubble? He kicked people out. And we know about those stories, but who says he hasn't kidnapped people? Unless that's what those stories of people going, there was a guy who just walked into heaven. I don't know who he was, but he walked up the stairs to heaven or something like that. Is he in the garden right now?
Jack: Heaven is not the garden.
Cristina: Heaven's not the garden. Where's God? He's not in heaven. Then.
Jack: God is not in heaven.
Cristina: He's in the garden.
Jack: God is in the garden.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Heaven is some other realm.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like h*** is probably just a shadow realm.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we call it some other crap, but ironically, angels come from there.
Cristina: So heaven and h*** could be the same place.
Jack: No, I think the liars that we know as Jehovah and his army, who say we're not only omniscient, but like, we're the good guys. And it's like you're the only guy who's drinking blood, so maybe you're not. Maybe the people who are like, go be one with nature are definitely on the right track. And you calling them the devil and then going and drinking blood, maybe you're wrong. But chances are more reason to go back into the shadow realm that the garden is located inside the shadow realm.
Cristina: The garden's in the shadow realm. But you don't think heaven.
Jack: It's already in a different plane.
Cristina: Do you think heaven's not a place then?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: What do you think? That's a lie.
Jack: It's possible that either heaven or h*** is the shadow realm.
Cristina: Okay. Because I feel like it has both creatures. So it's most likely that all those locations are the same location.
Jack: It could be that all the other s*** is the Shadow Realm.
Cristina: Yeah. So. Oh, back to the Shadow Realm.
Jack: And in the Shadow Realm, Somewhere in the Shadow Realm, this weird mazy confusing. Every direction leads to every direction mass there is the garden.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which God cannot leave.
Cristina: Except wait, I just remembered. He's a beaver here right now.
Jack: You're right. He's a beaver on this side. Well, he's actually a beaver groundhog. And he isn't even over here.
Cristina: Well, we don't know where he is.
Jack: We don't know. He could be a groundhog on this side. Or he's over there and he manifests as a groundhog on this side.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because his actual form is a groundhog. If he's over here, he's pretending, but he's over there. And people fearing for their weather conditions and season report for their crops. And we're going to be broke this year. That fear allows him to manifest and talk to them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he could just be a being from the Shadow Realm.
Cristina: He could be okay. Yes. So the best choice is just to wait then. Just gotta be patient for him to pop up. Because we know when and where.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: So we'll get that groundhog.
Jack: Definitely. It's pretty interesting.
Cristina: That is. And if we somehow miss the groundhog wasn't there. I keep saying beaver, but I'm pretty sure in another country it's the talking beaver that gives them the weather. I think it was like different animals in different locations, but they're all around the world. The groundhog is just the closest one to us, so it'd be easiest to get him.
Jack: Fair. And I'm assuming every one of those regions has different gods as well. And different gods pretend to be different things as well as different kinds of ghosts and entities of those natures. Which goes to show that gods are just demigods who happen to inhabit certain regions of the Earth. Yeah, that's fascinating. And as for groundhogs and s***, My voice is almost recovered after he got bitten by that stupid f****** groundhog.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Soon I'll be back at a hundred percent. I can almost do high notes. Almost.
Cristina: So what are you right now, 75?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Awesome.
Jack: I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
Cristina: Everyone's worried about you. There's like hundreds of thank you letters. I don't know why. Thank you.
Jack: Yes. Many, many thank you letters.
Cristina: It's really confusing.
Jack: Yes. They all heard I was hurt and they're all just thanking me.
Cristina: I think they think you're dying. Like this is it for you.
Jack: They think this is it.
Cristina: Yeah. So they're like, thank you for host. You're gonna be soon replaced by you again. But we want to thank you for the time you've been with us.
Jack: Yeah. It won't matter. They won't tell the difference.
Cristina: They won't tell the difference. No. So. But whatever they. They consider it if this is your passing away moment. But you're saying it's not.
Jack: I'm saying it's not. But thank you for all the thank you letters that we've received over the last couple of days following the previous episode where I talked about getting bitten by the groundhog that was just a normal non radioactive groundhog.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So thank you for all the thank you letters that we've gotten. It's great that that happened, I guess. You're welcome.
Cristina: You're welcome.
Jack: Welcome to all of you.
Cristina: Because this is it. I mean, this is the show. That's what you said in the beginning. This is the show.
Jack: This is the show. Yeah, it's the show. Anyways, so. Yeah. Hope you guys have some ideas or thoughts on anything we discussed right now. It'd be interesting to hear what you guys have to say about this. Is it making more sense? Are we reflecting defining what God is that we unmutty the Bible by saying that God is a groundhog from the shadow realm that exists inside of a fishbowl dimension that is known as the Garden of Eden and that humans are.
Cristina: Have the force and have adrenochrome as the shortcut force?
Jack: Yes, yes. We're just clarifying all the things. You guys know, you guys know how we do. We give you information. A little bit of good, a little bit of bad, some of the do's and don'ts. And this is my. Before you buy.
Cristina: What are they buying?
Jack: I don't know. Isn't that what that guy's friends, what is it? Some of the good, some of the bad. You know how we do. Before you buy. Anyways, yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you guys want more conversations of this nature, there are many. And the most recent episodes we've been sort of circling these topics, refining them. That way we know what our next steps are going to be. And you can find more episodes like that or like this or like any thing. Essentially, we cover everything under the sun. You can find that on Greathoughts.
Cristina: We have hundreds of episodes.
Jack: Yes. You can find that on greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook. Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.
Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate, and review the show, because that's always great to hear what you guys are thinking. So please go. If you're listening right now, if you made it this far, go review. Go review. You heard this far and you haven't left a review, go review and tell us what you genuinely thought. Take a moment, do it right now. It'll be awesome.
Cristina: And then we'll have to include an emoji.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: For this episode. What is it gonna be?
Jack: I don't know. Put a smiley of some sort.
Cristina: The one with the hearts.
Jack: No, put a poop emoji.
Cristina: Poop emoji. Okay.
Jack: There you go.
Cristina: Put a poop emoji, a true, honest review of the show, and a poof.
Jack: And a poop emoji at the true, honest review of the show, the right amount of stars that you believe we deserve, and then a poop emoji. Go do that now.
Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like the show know about it.
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth, incredibly powerful. And we're refining the meaning of science, religion, philosophy and everything. We're making it one. So, you know, tell people. Tell people who are trapped.
Cristina: They have to know.
Jack: Yeah. Tell people who are trapped in one of those systems so they can be trapped in all of them with us.
Cristina: Yes. Wow. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye. It's very complicated.
Cristina: What made you think of that, though?
Jack: I don't know. I was just. It's just an im. I don't know what the f*** I was even doing, but the images popped into my head. I'm like, how weird and fat. I've been thinking about it for, like, a week straight.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah. I'm like, this is so trippy.
Cristina: Is the Blue's Clues thing trippy, too, or not as trippy?
Jack: Holy sh. I didn't even connect those dots. I didn't think about it. But, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Blue skirt, dude, we can, too. Then they hop into a f******. But they live in a jumbled f****** mess.
Cristina: They do.
Jack: Weird to assume the coyote and the Roadrunner exists in, like, a relative reality.
Cristina: Or whatever, but the weird thing about them is that they can't normally jump into pictures. They have to announce that they're using Blue's powers of jumping into pictures.
Jack: What the f*** is Blue? Blue's some, like, mythical creature with powers, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like his.
Cristina: Blue, like the roadrunner. They have special powers.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Roadrunner is like Wile E. Coyote sometimes. Wile E. Coyote can break the laws of physics, too. It could break reality in his own instances. While Blue seems to kind of be like an omniscient God in his world or some s***, where he can however he wants. He's kind of like Deadpool.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning.
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