Rambling 152: Shinto Shrines
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Who first interacted with the shadow realm? How did they find it? Are churches and shrines related to the shadow realm somehow? And who’s master plan resulting in may churches and shrines throughout the world in order to bring creatures from the shadow realm through? The duo finally start resolving the bigger lingering questions about the shadow realm and the belief systems propped up around the need to bring things from the shadow realm back to base reality. The secret they uncover in the process is a twist they don’t see coming. And the usual suspect seems to be behind it all. Find out who, on this episode!
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Topics Discussed
- Trump 2024
- Star Destroyer
- Rabbit People
- Trump vs Biden Battle
- Vaccine Propaganda
- Right vs Left
- Woke Culture
- Star Trek Borg
- White House Battle
- Shinto Explained
- Kami (Spirits)
- Shrines
- The Shadow Realm
- Vampire Jesus
- 12 Apostles
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas and childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yes. So shut up and listen with somebody else.
Cristina: Why do they have to shut up? They could talk with us.
Jack: Yeah, we don't have to listen to them talk.
Cristina: Yeah, we're not listening to them.
Jack: And actually it would make sense if they're having to. They're bringing somebody else to have discussions with and then they're just shutting up and listening. But you know what? Go find somebody to have discussions with about the show and shut the f*** up while you listen.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know. They could talk while they listen to the show and then realize they didn't listen to the show and then have to re. Listen to the show.
Jack: This is why you got to download the show. So you can just, like, have it with you as you continue to talk to people and realize you're missing the show as you're talking to people about the show you're missing.
Cristina: So you gotta give the episode, like, three listens just to get the full picture.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the best way to do it.
Cristina: Yes. That's the right way.
Jack: It's recommended you shut the f*** up to grasp it. But. But also, you can't talk with somebody if you shut the f*** up. So you should make a combination of shutting the f*** up and listening and also having conversations. Yeah, you could do it in either order. At least give it two listens. One should be completely silent. The other should be with conversation.
Cristina: Both should be with two people.
Jack: Both should be with two people.
Cristina: Or more.
Jack: Or more.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: The minimum is two people.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: Why you're quietly sitting next to somebody else to listen. I don't know. But you're gonna do it?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because the children. And cancer.
Cristina: And cancer. That's a lot of cancer.
Jack: That's a lot of cancer.
Cristina: I feel like maybe we should stick to two now that I'm thinking about it. Like, if it's more than two, then everyone's listening through the one device and that means we're getting less plays. Although they are replaying it, but it Would still be better if it's just.
Jack: So only two. It's the minimum and the maximum.
Cristina: Yes, now it is.
Jack: The rule is no more, no less.
Cristina: No. If there's a third person in the room, they gotta listen. No, they can listen to it on their own device.
Jack: Fair enough. Fair enough. They have to listen on a separate thing. Yes, it is illegal. I will pass this law. We will get the President to pass this law so that people are obligated to listen in pairs of two. And if they don't, because all our technology is spying on us, they will know and you will go to jail.
Cristina: The President is gonna stop everyone in the world though.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Because.
Jack: Yes. With the power of friendship.
Cristina: With the power of friendship.
Jack: He's gonna go and be sleepy on them and you're gonna be like, oh, you know what? Pass the law.
Cristina: Sleepy.
Jack: Sleepy Joe.
Cristina: That's horrible. That's a horrible nickname.
Jack: I know, but it sticks, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I've heard so many people. I've heard people on the left call him Sleepy Joe.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's just super stuck. Trump won. Like, let's be real.
Cristina: Trump won. That nickname?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Oh, wow.
Jack: Trump won, bro.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He wanted everything and he sucks all at the same time. He's awesome. He's like a weird monster that can't be beat.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's crazy. He's like the super boss and we lost the first fight.
Cristina: Oh. So there has to be another fight.
Jack: There's going to be. He's going to run again. Oh, 2024 Trump.
Cristina: 2024.
Jack: 2024. Some Trump.
Cristina: Exciting.
Jack: It's going to be crazy.
Cristina: And then he's going to try to run again after winning.
Jack: Yeah, he's gonna try to win a third time and people are gonna vote for him anyways. But it's illegal to run again. But there's gonna be some sort of a coup and then like a Star Destroyer is gonna show up and a bunch of ships are gonna fly out of it from the space forest. Yeah.
Cristina: Space warriors. Yeah.
Jack: And that's when we're gonna start shooting from the ground up. And he's gonna board one of the Star Destroyers and go to planet Trump that he has been building. It's a giant like fake looking moon thing.
Cristina: Is that his Space Force is doing all of that?
Jack: Well, actually no Space Force is probably coming in contact with the rabbit people. Or is it called the Claridians or some s*** like that?
Cristina: Yes, that's what you named that. How do you remember that? It's a random word. Is that really. Did you steal that name from something, man?
Jack: Probably. I don't know.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I don't know. It's. I don't know why I remember anything. I don't know where I learn anything I remember. I don't know why I have memory of the most weird, obscure ra. Random. But these Claridians. And what do you mean that I made up? This is.
Cristina: If you stole that from something that could be like a Star Trek alien.
Jack: It could totally be, but this is just conversation lure, bro. Okay, so Claridians, according to what? Rabbits are rabbit people inside of a Death Star esque thing. And Trump is gonna ride a Space Force ship. A space Force, like super mega colossal ship too.
Cristina: I forgot the star.
Jack: Just through the. The Death Star.
Cristina: Where do we get these rabbit people from? I feel like it had something to do with elephants, but are there elephant aliens too?
Jack: No, no, no. There was just a Death Star thing in space or some. They were watching us or some.
Cristina: But I don't remember. I feel like there was something that was afraid of them, though.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. Or something was. No, they were afraid of something that was the cockroach people or something like that they were holding. They were stopping. The cockroach people were basically like Vulcan sauce.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And they were watching over Earth, waiting until we were ready to explore space.
Cristina: And they were stopping the rabid people.
Jack: They were stopping the rabid people from coming to us. Because rabbits, according to. I don't know, we. I don't know, we made it up, I guess. That rabbits are scared of cockroaches.
Cristina: No, I thought there was something about Rab. Rabbits. No. Elephants being afraid of rabbits.
Jack: No. You wanted elephants to be what? Scared of cockroaches.
Cristina: Oh, that's what it was.
Jack: Yes, but there's no reason they would be. So we established that rabbits are what's in the Death Star esque ship that was being held at bay. But the moment we destroyed Mars and the cockroach people dispersed across the galaxy and were no longer centralized, the rabbit people in the Death Star started coming our way.
Cristina: And they're working with Trump.
Jack: Yeah. Trump is going to board them and be the leader of the rabbits. And this is all fact. You can read it in government documents.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: This was part of his Space Force plan. So if you want to read more on this, go to spaceforce.org and you will see that I am talking truth. But wait until the episode is over and you've forgotten all about this.
Cristina: Yes, yes. Do it later.
Jack: Yeah, do it Much later. Anyways, as our listeners, shut the f*** up and listen. According to the law that Trump will pass when he becomes a king. Sleepy Joe. You're right, you're right, you're right. And that's why Trump is gonna go to war in the first place. Because he wants to beat Sleepy Joe. But he's gonna be too sleepy. And Trump is gonna swing as Sleepy Joe droops asleep and he's gonna miss his head and Trump is gonna spin all cartoony and get dizzy himself and it's gonna be like in Pokemon where they do conf. Pokemon is all confused.
Cristina: So he's going to confuse himself.
Jack: Yeah, he's going to confuse himself and then he's going to fall over. Cuz he has no balance, which we saw because he can't go up or down a plane successfully. Yes, he like wobbles and he wibbles and wobbles, but he hasn't yet fallen down.
Cristina: But this time he won't.
Jack: But he will fall down because he's going to be dizzy too. Other than just wibbling and wobbling. So as he swings to hit Sleepy Joe during their epic battle on top of like a building. The White House fire. Yes, the White House on fire is on fire.
Cristina: What?
Jack: And it's Sleepy Joe versus Trump on top of the White House. And it's the last epic battle and Trump with his lack of.
Cristina: Do you know why the White House is on fire?
Jack: Trump said it had Trump supporter set it on fire.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then Trump swings and he. Sleepy Joe just falls asleep at that moment. Like, like, like Jigglypuff trying to put him to sleep. You ever stare an animal and like you close your eyes like you're getting sleepy and the animal starts getting sleepy? Yeah, it's like a weird hypnosis you could do on an animal that say that's a trick. Sleepy Joe's pull. That's where he got the name Sleepy Joe.
Cristina: Cuz he puts people.
Jack: He puts people to sleep. It's a trick he learned. He's using psychology, bro. He pretends he's old and incoherent, but nah, it's a trick. It's government mind control.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: To the public, dude, he's falling asleep in front of the world. And the world is falling asleep in front of their screens. What?
Cristina: So he can. When they're not looking, they're looking. Okay. Yeah, that's cool.
Jack: Yeah. So in this epic battle on top of a burning White House, Trump swings totally uncoordinated. He probably would have missed anyways, but he swings, and Sleepy Joe falls asleep at that moment, drooping to the side like Matrix style, dodging the super slow, easily dodgeable punch of Trump. And Trump spins, and now he's dizzy, and he wibbles and wobbles and actually falls down this time.
Cristina: Does he also fall asleep?
Jack: I. I guess maybe. Well, he's. He only falls asleep in front of a tv, so not really.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: So. Which is ironic because that's exactly how Sleepy Joe's putting everybody to sleep.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So chances are it's super effective. It's like hitting a water Pokemon with lightning. And it's like. Yeah. Whenever this dude's at. Well, no, When Trump's at home.
Cristina: Oh. When Trump's at home while watching tv.
Jack: Turns on tv, he's just knocked the f*** out. It's critical hit. Super effective.
Cristina: Okay, so he falls off the White.
Jack: House, though, asleep, into a fiery pit of the White House, but Sleepy Joe's asleep, and he burns to death, too. And then we have an anarchistic country that happens to. Functions to. To our surprise, way better. And then peace is established in the United States, and then the rest of the world realizes we should have probably been in an anarchistic state where people make rules amongst each other. And then if somebody is just killing for no reason or abusing people.
Cristina: This is the future you're talking about. When Trump wins again or when Joe Biden is running again or what? Where is this taking place? Is it taking place right now? Did it already take place?
Jack: This is taking place in 2024.
Cristina: 2024.
Jack: Yeah, after. @ the last couple of minutes of the. Of the presidential race.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: But neither of them can run again, can they?
Jack: They're both going to be dead, right? They die at the end of this.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: They both fall into a fiery White House that was set ablaze by the Trump supporters on their second run at the White House, the insurrection.
Cristina: So can someone else just take the. No, no, no.
Jack: This is the end of presidency because all the Trump supporters only believe Trump could be president, and all the sleepy Joe supporters believe you need to go to. And those are the only two ways to run a country. You're either sleeping or supporting Trump.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. Which is weird, because exactly this happens where people are like, wake up, sheeple. Who follow Trump, saying that the people follow Trump. Wake up, sheeple. You're following the wrong. You're being brainwashed. Which is kind of true, because a lot of politicians just kind of push it under the rug. Not to say Trump was trying to liberate anybody.
Cristina: Because he was just the people that are sleeping because Sleepy Joe, aren't they the woke people?
Jack: Well, no, that's the weirdest part. The woke people are kind of the ones asleep. Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Now, I'm not saying Trump was trying to wake anybody up. He's just an idiot who can't shut the f*** up. But as a result of not being able to shut the f*** up, he keeps informing people of what the truth is.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: While the people who were being lied to by the left are being lied to the way politicians have always lied.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: They're just like, throw it under the rug. Like, still to this day, nobody understands vaccines.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Because propaganda.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: By the left.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: Nobody understands vaccines. Obviously. The right is also stupid. It's poisoning you, you f****** idiot. You don't know how s*** works. But the left is also really dumb. Everybody. I got a vaccine to protect my daughter. From what? If you catch it, you'll still pass it. From what? What are you. You couldn't. You've been convinced that if you take the vaccine, you can't get it, you can't get it. And if you somehow. If me. If you still believe you can get it for whatever reason, you can't pass it. It's. It's very confusing. People are idiots.
Cristina: If you get it, you can't pass it. That's what they think.
Jack: If he believes he can still get it, then he believes he can't pass it. Or he believes he can't get it because he got vaccinated. Either. Or he believes one of those two things is happening. I got vaccinated, so I can't catch it. Or if I catch it, I can't pass it because he's protecting his daughter. I got my vaccine to protect my daughter.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's like, from what? What the f***? The rapists outside is the vaccine keeping them away? I don't get what you're protecting them from.
Cristina: You don't know that.
Jack: I mean, I guess it could be. It's the same way toilet paper protects against corona.
Cristina: Exactly. Like, doesn't really need to make sense. It just has to sound right.
Jack: It just has to sound right. And this is all propaganda, man. It's crazy. People don't know s***. The woke people are, tragically, the ones following Trump and the people who are calling themselves woke, or tragically, the ones the most asleep. Not to say that the ones following Trump are really woke. It's just compared to the ones following anything else, essentially. Like, if you're on a political team and it's not Trump. You're more asleep than if you're following Trump. But you're not, like, fully woke if you're following Trump, because Trump's also just a troll.
Cristina: Anyone awake?
Jack: No, nobody's fully awake.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because Trump's not out to help you. No, he's out for.
Cristina: Is he awake?
Jack: He's. He. H*** yeah. Trump knows, bro. And he knows of his followers are morons that will follow anything he says and believe whatever the h***. He's fully aware of that, and he abuses that fact. Trump followers are dumb, bro. They're stupid, bro. But, like, Miles, we're talking s***. You could prove yourself in your kitchen with just random s*** at random times of day. You don't even need to, like, you don't need a list of it. You can just prove things that he has spewed and prove them wrong. But they're more right than the other side, which is where the problem is. Because they can be like, but you're wrong. And it's like, okay, you're right about that, but you're not right. You're just right about them being wrong. What?
Cristina: Wait, what?
Jack: The Trump followers are right in calling the left wrong. Okay, but they themselves aren't right. But they think that because they can prove the other side is wrong. They have proven that they're right. No, you've proven that they're wrong.
Cristina: Okay, then who's right?
Jack: Nobody, because you're following a bunch of politicians who are out for themselves and pinning you against each other so that they can manipulate change the laws around you to milk you for your money.
Cristina: Who can people trust, though?
Jack: Me.
Cristina: You?
Jack: I will literally just blow up the rabbit, people.
Cristina: The rabbit You. Oh, my gosh.
Jack: And then our problem is solved because they're coming to attack us.
Cristina: How do we know that?
Jack: We don't. But let's assume they are to protect ourselves. Because if we don't assume they are.
Cristina: That'S what we did with them.
Jack: If we don't assume they're coming to kill us and they come to this planet and they befriend us, and then they flip overnight order 66 us, then. Then what do we do? We didn't see it coming.
Cristina: 66 US?
Jack: Yeah, it's a Star wars order that was given to the clones that flipped them and they killed all the Jedi.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah, they order 66 us because their leader gave the orders time to dispose of the humans and they could build a f****** like Death Star. Come on. We're not winning, so we gotta stop them before they get Here. Are they coming to kill us? I can't tell you for sure, but do we want to find out if they're coming here to kill us?
Cristina: Maybe.
Jack: I mean, it's real.
Cristina: It's real.
Jack: It's real. Like, maybe we just need to let it happen.
Cristina: What if that's the solution?
Jack: Just the rest of the universe is at peace after that?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No more humans. Universe at peace.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, what if every. Like there's mad crap happening around us because we exist?
Jack: Yeah, it could totally be. Chances are the 90,000 satellites that we've put into space is f****** something up.
Cristina: Yeah. What if one of them turned alive and it's like. It's a robot destroying a world in some other.
Jack: It's totally possible. Look, a bunch of crash together.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Some sort of sentient thinking satellite.
Cristina: What if that happens?
Jack: And then we keep sending technology that keeps getting destroyed out here, and it just sends signals that reanimates it. And he builds an army of a bunch of different machines that slowly then start to form a sort of hive mentality. Eventually, some other race lands on the. Hey, there's some technologies on here. Let's go see it. And the machine attacks them and then merges with their body. And now they have a physical being with rocket technology already prepared because they landed there. And they use that rocket technology to leave and go land on some other planet where there's an entire civilization. And they, hey, look at this cool cyborg thing that came to visit us. And it's like, yes, I'm a cool cyborg. I came to visit you in the middle of the night. Just starts turning people into robots before you know it.
Cristina: Exactly. Oh, what if we started the Borg without even knowing?
Jack: I mean, the Borg were human.
Cristina: The original one.
Jack: I believe so. I think they were human to begin with. And there's something about time travel or some crap like that that is really complicated.
Cristina: What? So, yeah, okay.
Jack: We could have started the Borg.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Also, that theory that f******. Oh, my God. That's never going to leave my mind.
Cristina: The Terminator.
Jack: The Terminator came back in time to stop Connor because Connor in the future is Neo. Get the f*** out of here.
Cristina: That's crazy. Yeah. What if we made that though somewhere else?
Jack: Yeah, man. It's totally possible. It's totally possible.
Cristina: We don't know what we're doing.
Jack: We don't.
Cristina: That's why those rabbits are coming here.
Jack: Look, it's possible. We don't know. But also, like, I like awareness.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So it's like, we might be the problem. But also I like awareness.
Cristina: Yeah. So let's live and then after we're dead though the world.
Jack: No, no, no. We stopped them from coming here. For whatever reason they're coming here. In fact, we don't just stop them from coming here. I'm not really just. I'm over just murdering people. We have no cockroach people on Mars that we can question and study.
Cristina: We have your wife.
Jack: Yeah, but I'm not gonna do that to her. Okay, that's a problem. You know, so rather than just blowing up a problem. Fair enough. We're surprised we're gonna blow up, but we're gonna send a team over there to kidnap an entire few families of these rabbit. Yeah. So we can torture them primarily and also maybe question them. If we're torturing them, we're already at it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Might as well get some questions.
Cristina: Maybe the questions first and then the torture. I don't know, I don't know how it works. I mean, combo of both.
Jack: I mean, if we want to learn about them, I guess we can question them primarily. Just torture them would be cool.
Cristina: But I don't know, we should confuse them. Like I'm sure they'll be confused, give them presents randomly. Oh, I like that. I don't know those part of the torture.
Jack: And also we should test to see how similar to earth rabbits they are. Are Earth rabbits? Is Earth just a giant TV show like in South Park?
Cristina: Yes. Where's zoo?
Jack: Where just a bunch of random s*** was put. And it's like, let's see how it works out. But it's like there were sentient f****** like fully aware, conscious, technologically advanced rabbits. We know it. They're coming our way. So are they related?
Cristina: Are they on the moon? Where are these robots?
Jack: No, I mean rabbits on a Death Star.
Cristina: On a Death Star somehow related to Trump. You said he's on that Death Star.
Jack: No, he's gonna board a Star Destroyer and head there and then he's gonna return for the presidential election where he's gonna die in an epic battle with Sleepy Joe on top of the White House.
Cristina: But his army are the rabbits.
Jack: Well, his army, I guess, when he's attacking because there is gonna be an epic shoot shooting battle where we're shooting up and they're shooting down and like stuff is gonna, is gonna go down or maybe they win. We don't want to find out. Okay, we're gonna change history.
Cristina: Is he secretly a rabbit? Like how does he communicate with them?
Jack: They probably have, they have a Death Star. I'm sure they have A translator.
Cristina: Okay, what does he have? Oh, he has the horse, Space Force. But that's being still run by him.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's still run by him. Nobody runs Space Force but Trump. That's where he's hiding right now, at.
Cristina: Space Force headquarters with them at this moment to take over.
Jack: The Star Destroyer is being built so he could board it and fly up to the Death Star.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: And then join them in their attack of Earth.
Cristina: So we gotta stop them before that happens.
Jack: Before that happens.
Cristina: I don't know, but that sounds really epic.
Jack: Sounds cool, right?
Cristina: Yes. The giant white house thing. Like, couldn't we just wait and watch that and then have some kind of plan to stop it at that moment?
Jack: Look, if we did watch that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We need to hire a film crew to capture it in the greatest lighting from the best angles so that later we can play this to the public and wake them up to the fact that there was an epic fight.
Cristina: I don't know if we should do that. I feel like that's how our. We will die and get clones.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: I don't know. Are we supposed to be. I don't know. What?
Jack: We don't work for the government.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: We expose the government.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. It's a very confusing job. I don't know what we can say.
Jack: Do nothing bad about the Illuminati because they are great.
Cristina: Okay. That's it.
Jack: Everybody else sucks and lies to the people. The Illuminati tells them the truth when.
Cristina: The government works for the Illuminati. Was Trump works for the Illuminati?
Jack: No. It doesn't matter because we're not talking s*** about the Illuminati. Trump is clearly correct.
Cristina: Name is out of the table.
Jack: But anyone else out of the table.
Cristina: Who could be related to them and Jesus, maybe.
Jack: We're not sure. We haven't been killed yet.
Cristina: And Jesus.
Jack: We talked a lot of s*** about Jesus. We haven't died yet.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So I think we might have touched something wrong when we were like, is Jesus Lucifer? And does Lucifer run the government or the Illuminati?
Cristina: Whatever. Yeah.
Jack: And it's like, okay, maybe we got a little close to fire there. But I don't know if that's accurate because nothing has happened to us.
Cristina: Yes. Okay.
Jack: Like, our. Our boss is probably Lucifer.
Cristina: Maybe.
Jack: Like, probably. Probably.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: But is he Jesus? Well, we've talked a lot of s*** about Jesus, and we know the boss of the Illuminati will just get rid of us.
Jack: So it's probably Just Lucifer. Probably work for the devil.
Cristina: I don't know. Or it could be a robot. I don't know. Yeah, like, it could be any. It could be a rabbit person for all we know.
Jack: He could. That's the craziest f****** plot twist. It could totally be.
Cristina: It could be anything.
Jack: It could totally be rabbit.
Cristina: Could have been a roach person. But I feel like we'd be dead now if it was a roach person.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Or maybe that's why one of our clones died was because it was the roach people and they didn't like what we did because we were involved in that roach war that I did not want to be a part of.
Jack: Well, no, because we specifically died for talking s***. The very next time is when those clones were gotten rid of.
Cristina: Mmm. Okay, so it's not the roach people. Okay.
Jack: I mean, it could be the roach people, but it wasn't because of what happened to the roach people. Because then we would have died immediately after what happened to the roach people.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which wasn't the case.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It could be a rabbit person as well. But, like, what the f*** are they on their way for then? There's already running the show.
Cristina: Okay, so what are we gonna do? We're gonna let them come here? We're gonna stop them before.
Jack: I mean, I like the idea of recording the epic battle.
Cristina: Well, we still had to find God. Well, that happens before that because that's in 2001.
Jack: 2004.
Cristina: 24. So, yeah. Yeah, we got a while for that.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, we got a regular head groundhog that we already got, you know, hoping to see how that goes. My throat's healing up. I can talk.
Cristina: Yeah. So we're gonna meet God before that.
Jack: Yeah, we're meeting God way before Trump runs again. And there's an epic space battle for Earth and the White House between Sleepy Joe and Donald Trump.
Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: I don't know which part is cooler, but it's happening. Maybe God will watch the fight with us.
Jack: Maybe God knows the right connect to have the best film crew record this.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Maybe you can just talk to Colin Bressler.
Cristina: Colin?
Jack: Oh, yeah.
Cristina: He could help us get him to come back.
Jack: And it's like, colin, this is your day, bro. We need you to record Donald Trump and Sleepy Joe fighting to the death.
Cristina: Atop of a flaming white house.
Jack: A flaming white house? Yeah.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Which was set ablaze by the Trump supporters on the second Insurrection.
Cristina: And then somehow the Death Star is coming.
Jack: Yes, that's where Trump is on. He's gonna Be on the Death Star by that point.
Cristina: Oh, he comes down through the Death Star. The Death Star doesn't do anything. It just.
Jack: It's gonna be shooting at Earth with laser. With lasers and stuff. And then all the weird laser weapons that we didn't know Earth had are suddenly gonna, like, random holes on the floor gonna open, and, like, up is gonna come giant laser weapons.
Cristina: How do we have laser weapons in the pyramids? Why do we need random.
Jack: It's not a laser weapon. It's a transportation device.
Cristina: I thought it was both.
Jack: I mean, I guess configure it for that. That was just a theory. The conclusion was it's a transporter.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: It's a teleport across the universe.
Cristina: I thought it was one and then became the other. I don't know.
Jack: That's how the cat people got to the great void.
Cristina: Oh, so we have to find lasers.
Jack: Yeah. And the whole point of getting God is to get to the cat people. So we got a lot of people. There's cat people, there's rabbit people, there's cockroach people, there's reptile people and.
Cristina: No elephant people.
Jack: No elephant people. The flip side, the interesting part about this is that talking back about the groundhog known as God, we suspect that he is in the shadow realm.
Cristina: The shadow who? Oh, the beaver. Okay, groundhog. I mean, groundhog.
Jack: The groundhog known as God is in the shadow realm. And we were talking about how similar some of this stuff sounded to Shinto that also has, like, spirits from this other side and some similar behaviors we've noticed. And the shadow realm and crap like that. And I.
Cristina: You mentioned Shinto and something else. Or you found out that the other thing was. Was actually just Shinto.
Jack: What was the other thing?
Cristina: I don't know. You were con. You thought there was two things.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It turned out just to be Shinto, but. So I went down the Shinto rabbit hole.
Cristina: Rabbit hole. Okay.
Jack: I went down the Shinto rab.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And isn't it weird? There's just like a bunch of supernatural ghostly things and a bunch of sciency s*** that happens around us all the time that the rest of the world doesn't even know happens.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: What a weird reality that we exist in.
Cristina: So what's happening in the Shinto rabbit hole?
Jack: So the Shinto rabbit hole we. So I jumped in, I looked at. I did a bunch of extensive research about Shinto to see how accurate we are about spirits and stuff and whether adrenochrome is there and, like, what's happening you know all these details. Okay, so let's go through a couple of things. Shinto is considered the religion of nature.
Cristina: Awesome.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Similar to Native American spiritualism, it is the only other thing considered to be purely based on nature.
Cristina: Those are the two.
Jack: Yes. And both of these two belief systems do not have scripture. That is very important. They do not have any scripture that dictates anything. So you don't have morality codes. There's no right or wrong.
Cristina: Do you have, like, stories or something?
Jack: No, there's no scriptures. Nothing.
Cristina: There's nothing.
Jack: There's nothing. People made things afterwards of personal experience, but there's no scripture.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: There is just the belief that you protect nature. Now, what's weird about this is that these two belief systems happened. One in the United States. Well, not the United States. America before the United States, in Gaia. And the other one happened in Japan.
Cristina: Very opposite.
Jack: Very like. Yeah, we're pretty far away from each other. And the belief systems are very similar. It's both of nature and the spirits of nature and how everything is alive. And you want to create harmony or nature will turn on you, but has.
Cristina: To do with spirits and stuff. Right.
Jack: This is the best way to convey. At least in Shinto. Yeah, it's the best way to convey it as spirits. While in spiritualism, Native American spiritualism, it's closer to, like, all things are consciously living at all times, even in a way we don't comprehend. But if you were to simplify it, it's ultimately the spirit of the thing. Okay, so those are, like, baseline things to think about. The spirits are called kami, at least in Japan, in the Shinto, because we're not really talking about Native American spiritualism. Visit that one day. And it focuses on the spirits that inhabit all things. So rivers, mountains, waterfalls, everything that's in nature. Yeah, the natural world, the spirits of the natural world. And a lot of the traditions that take place, take place around shrines. And shrines are usually placed next to whatever thing it is that has the spirit that you're catering to.
Cristina: Is the shrine like a gateway or it's just like a tombstone? Like.
Jack: Well, the shrine is possibly a gateway. Could be. It could also be some sort of focal point or something. So we know that we need fear. Fear to, like, sufficient amounts of fear. Summons. That's the best word associated with Shinto. Summons the creature. Right. We know that if you are scared enough, you can summon a wet judge. You can summon a. By accident. Not literally summon, but the manifest.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because they need the fear or adrenochrome. Those are the two things?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So they manifest on this side from the should they exist in the shadow realm. And the more concentrated fear there is, the more they can manifest on this side as a sort of ethereal kind of being. It looks like the shrine's purpose is ultimately something along those lines. Obviously, the teachings of Shinto don't say it that way.
Cristina: Don't include fear or blood or anything.
Jack: The shrine is where you go to worship the kamiyah and offer your offerings towards the kami. So you go there to pray, you take it food, you take it money, you do these things for the kami. Great. Fantastic. Phenomenal. But the reason that you pray to the kami and this actually goes to the priests. So there's priests that usually take care of the shrine, and the priests are usually called kanushi. The kanushi, they're praying to him? No, the people are praying to the kami.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: The priests purpose there is to maintain the shrine and also be part of the offerings and things that are given to the kami. He helps and assists with all that, maintains the shrine, keeps it clean and helps along with worship when people. When there's celebrations and stuff, when the seasons change and stuff, there's worship rituals and whatnot. But the purpose of these worships and the very specific purpose of the kami, which I found very fascinating that they chose this word selection, was to establish harmony between humans and the kami. The idea being that the kami are otherwise naturally hostile to people, which I find interesting.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then there's a location where you can bring it things. There's a. So how the prayer goes, you bring it the offering, you ring a bell to attract its attention, you clap and then you pray. So you give it an offering. Yeah, the bell. You bring the offering first. You ring the bell to attract its attention, you clap, and then you pray. And so you've attracted its attention and the process begins. And then you pray and whatever. And so you're trying to make it happy. The commie is trying to be happy because you're trying to make it.
Cristina: But the priest is making sure that it won't like attack or something.
Jack: Yes, the priest guides the big rituals. And the priest is there consistently keeping the kami at bay or unaggressive.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: So that's very, very interesting because there is aggression there which falls perfectly in line with the creatures of the shadow realm when they manifest on our side, at least the majority of them, they manifest. And they seem aggressive.
Cristina: Yes, they do.
Jack: Which I Find interesting.
Cristina: Maybe because they're not offering the right things.
Jack: No, the offerings are to bring them down.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The offering is to calm it down. So they are creatures. Now, here's the interesting point. You come here to give it an offering to assist with calming it down. You're already assuming it needs to be calmed down. You have a tiny little bit of fear.
Cristina: Ah.
Jack: And there's a focal point where, throughout the course of the day, many people are gonna pass by that same spot.
Cristina: With enough fear building up throughout the day.
Jack: Yes. Tiny little increments, but enough people throughout the course of the day. Weeks, months. Just feeding this commie and allowing it to remain on this side.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: There is a way to summon these things intentionally.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And the shrine is the way to do it.
Cristina: And sometimes they are aggressive to people. They probably have killed people too, in stories that they've told of these things.
Jack: Yeah. 100%. It's totally possible. And, yeah, the stories do say that there are, like. Of course, there's no way to prove it, but there's also no way to disprove it.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So it seems like, yes, the shrine is a focal point, a gateway. I don't know. Because it seems like the only real way across for somebody from this side is adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yeah. And for them, who knows how they get here? Fear they have. Oh, fear.
Jack: They manifest with fear.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So a shrine allows a focal point where people continuously cross. They keep coming to the same spot with that same amount of fear. You're coming there to. Hopefully I can help in assisting the angry kami. Calms down.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And so that happens 20, 30, 40, 50 times a day.
Cristina: And it's slowly feeding on you.
Jack: And it slowly feeds on that energy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And allows it to remain on this side. While if the shrines were destroyed and people were no longer coming through, Maybe there'd be nothing.
Cristina: Maybe there'd be nothing. No, that can't. That can't be right.
Jack: It needs the fear to manifest. This was tactically placed here by somebody who was fully aware of the kami ahead of time. And allowing the kami to manifest, it's possible that the first iteration of the groundhog known as Jehovah, was through some sort of shrine. Not only that, we can argue that if people are collecting on the same field around the same hole around the same time every year.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Waiting for this groundhog is the equivalent of being around a shrine.
Cristina: I don't know if they need a shrine, though. I feel like they can come around anything, but it's just Easier to get to the trine because they know that's the spot where this food is. That will be easy for them. Because I'm pretty sure they've been attacked in other places. Like there's a lot of stories of being attacked near water.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You're missing the point super entirely. It's places where fear is dominant.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That is the whole point. The shrine doesn't matter.
Cristina: No.
Jack: It's the fact that people come with fear to the shrine throughout the day.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If you remove the focal point, then there's no manifestation at the focal point. You've reduced how much percent. There's a hundred thousand shrines in Japan.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: If you destroyed all hundred thousand and people just stopped coming because there's no more shrines to go to. You're not collecting the fear energy anywhere.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And thus you have less creatures from the shadow realm coming to the mortal realm.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Now God the groundhog is doing the same thing with people collecting to tell us the weather, the seasons or whatever f*** is happening.
Cristina: Yeah. He has a specific home where he comes out of. Yes.
Jack: And it's really because there's a crap ton of people there. Now these people are already superstitious. And who are the people most likely to believe in religion?
Cristina: Superstitious.
Jack: Superstitious people. So you gather a bunch of superstitious people to follow a superstition around a place in which a person that require and they're fearing what? It's a United States. It's most likely they're fearing God. So a bunch of God fearing people come around and they're already fearing for the season. You know, season. Hopefully our crops, man. Oh my God.
Cristina: We might starve to death in winter.
Jack: Crops manifestation. Groundhog suddenly shows up. It all falls into place.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it seems like the creator of Shinto was fully aware of the shadow realm. Not only that he was trying to merge the shadow realm with the mortal realm.
Cristina: What? He's trying to do what again?
Jack: To merge. Merge it to bring as much from over there over here. So shrines kept popping up and kept popping up as the belief was spread further. Who began spreading the belief?
Cristina: Who?
Jack: There's no way to know. I tried to find. They don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows where they know. It began in Japan. They don't know how long ago exactly. And they don't know how it began to spread.
Cristina: It spread outside of Japan.
Jack: It spread outside of Japan, but it began in Japan.
Cristina: Yeah. But can you find shrines outside of Japan?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: In other Parts of Asia, primarily.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: Interesting. Right? Somebody covered their tracks effectively.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So there was an attempt.
Cristina: It was Jesus. Remember he ran away to Japan after he died. He lived in a town there with his wife and children.
Jack: Interesting. That could totally be the case. And it's possible Jesus is also the one who made the. What's known now as the hole that God comes out of. But it's possible that all these things are perpetuated by the same guy.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: He was out here in different iterations, taking on different names, like some sort of outlaw on the run, pretending to be different people wherever he was so they couldn't be. So he couldn't be tracked.
Cristina: All this goes back to Jesus?
Jack: All this goes back to Jesus, I guess. That's weird.
Cristina: That's weird. But also, Jesus leads back to God, which I guess is the important thing.
Jack: Yeah, because really, Jesus isn't God. He's a guy who somehow knows about.
Cristina: The shadow realm because he has a special communication with God, though, through the shadow realm, I'm guessing.
Jack: How did he get that communication to begin with?
Cristina: Psst. I don't know.
Jack: I mean, I guess. I guess his drinking blood. Because we know Jesus is the first vampire.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: Which means he has already some form of access to the shadow room. We know he did in fact, die.
Cristina: Yes, but he came back.
Jack: Well, he went to the shadow realm. That means even the Jesus we see.
Cristina: It'S the vampire Jesus.
Jack: That was interesting, because he died as a vampire. Well, he's only a zombie when it's feral.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And he had the vampire things going on. That's how he was doing his magic tricks and confusing people and crap like that. And then he got killed for being a vampire, essentially. And then because he was so hopped up and so well medicated on adrenochrome, his soul crosses over to the shadow realm, where he then meets God and communicating over there. And not only that, he gets over there and then he communicates with the creatures who have clean passage, like fairies and leprechauns and s***, that they can jump freely from the shadow realm into the mortal realm without needing adrenochrome. And then he's like, oh, you know what? Now that I think about this, there's one guy who's involved in all this, and it always comes back to this.
Cristina: Is it Saint Patrick?
Jack: It's Saint Patrick, bro. It's always Saint Patrick.
Cristina: How's he related?
Jack: Saint Patrick understood the fairies.
Cristina: He did? Well, he was against them, though. He got them out of Ireland. Yes.
Jack: How does he know how to remove a creature that is pure magic.
Cristina: He.
Jack: He had weird. He's like salmon, Dean. He had weird research that the rest of us didn't have access to.
Cristina: Well, supposedly God helped him.
Jack: God wasn't real yet. He had the stories of God and like, you know, all these BS things. Yes, but somehow the fairies and leprechauns, I could freely jump back and forth.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Jesus on the other side, having been a native to decide and the first person to consume copious amounts of adrenochrome, thus allowing him to be the first person to cross over and then realize, holy s***.
Cristina: Maybe he knew the truth about Jesus because we know that the church is keeping secrets because they create monsters themselves.
Jack: Yeah, fair enough.
Cristina: So he might have that knowledge.
Jack: Interesting. Interesting. So you think. Well, he's actually. Where? He works for the church.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: So you think he knew about the death of Jesus and then St. Patrick decided, what if I can summon. No, you got to know you can summon him first. That's the problem. It doesn't matter what creatures you're making on this side. They fade out to the other side. Then what they're do to going, gone. Okay, great. But how do you know you can bring something back? There's a point here in which shrines are coming up to bring s*** from the shadow realm. That's the part that's missing. And somehow Jesus from that side, already dead, only took three days to figure it out and pop up on the other side.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Was it the fear of his family?
Cristina: What?
Jack: The fear of his family. Now he can see his family from that side. He sees them as ghosts, as faded people walking around. But they don't see him. That's how the shadow realm works. Yeah, so is the fear they're feeling that they're gonna come for us now because we were his family. Did that help him manifest? And then he pops up and he's like, holy, I'm on this side.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Because they kept visiting the grave too.
Cristina: Yes. Maybe the grave created some type of portal he just came through. From their fear, he manifested.
Jack: Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That their continuous visit of the grave created enough focused fear because they're gonna come for us eventually.
Cristina: Maybe not just his family, but like, all the followers.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Anybody on anyone? Yeah.
Jack: And so this immense amount of. We're all gonna die. They killed him. They're coming for us.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: There's so much fear that he popped up. That he popped up?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I mean, there were 12 other vampires, bro. Let's be real. They were scared, too. They're like, oh, s***, we're next.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: There was enough fear going around. And then he pops up, and then a moment comes and he goes. And he's like, okay, I have no idea what the f*** is happening, but I feel I'm fading away. I need you guys to figure out, because I saw the other side and I was there. I was there. Let's call it Heaven. He didn't have a name for yet. Shadow Realm, obviously. But let's call it Heaven. And I'm on the other side. I saw it. I was there. I witnessed it. Look, guys, I feel like the opposite of the feeling I had coming over here is currently happening to me. So I'm assuming if that's the case, it means I'm fading away the same way I faded in before. That happens. I'm here. Look. You guys see me? Everybody sees me. Yes, we all see you. We don't know how the f*** you're here, but, yeah, okay.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Something happened. Figure it the f*** out.
Cristina: And you think they figured it out?
Jack: Twelve apostles who are fully aware and communicated with Jesus firsthand after his death.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And now they know there's something else, and we can bring him back. We don't know how it happened, but we know what happened. He doesn't know how it happened either.
Cristina: And they sent him to Japan after that.
Jack: Well, I don't know. He was already in Japan, probably. Oh, hidden Japan. I don't know. Do some.
Cristina: And then how does Ireland.
Jack: I don't know. I was just assuming that this douchebag who has connections to crap coming in and out was probably connected, but probably not. He's probably just making monsters himself. Who knows? But we know Jesus came back. Yes, probably because of the fear of everybody. And he got it. We know he communicated with everybody. And then he's gone again. Right. Some step is missing there that then led to shrines.
Cristina: Besides that, he just goes there and he makes.
Jack: He probably went and talked to fairies, right? And he's like, do you guys know. Do you guys get it? It's like, well, we have clean passage, but. But the reason you popped up over there is simply because fear, energy pushes you over there. Maybe he got the information from some leprechauns, some fairies. They were just like, well, really? Really. If people are scared enough, some of these creatures have the ability. Most of anything in here can just manifest on that side. Fear is the connecting link.
Cristina: Yeah. I didn't feel like he would have known that somehow because of the Whole blood drinking.
Jack: Well, no, he wasn't drinking blood to cross over. He was drinking blood for its attributes of power.
Cristina: Oh, okay. He was probably knowing that.
Jack: No idea Shadow Realm existed.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Gotta hold the blood. He's like, wow, I'm strong. Holy s***, I'm smarter. He didn't, like, think Shadow Realm. Oh, yeah, Blood equals Shadow Realm.
Cristina: If it makes him smarter. Maybe he figured it out once he was brought back. He was like, oh, crap, I saw that you guys were sad or whatever.
Jack: Like, that's loose, thoughts connected, you need some confirmation. Which I'm.
Cristina: Well, maybe that's what he tested out in Japan with the temple temples. Maybe those were tests.
Jack: I don't think they were tests. I think the shrines were there intentionally. Some information had to be solid. It wasn't like a random gamble. That would make zero sense for him to just conclude.
Cristina: No, because then the world would be covered in temples, though. Why would he just cover one place in temples? I feel like once he realized I don't need these temples, like, this was a good practice and they did work, but I don't actually need it because in other places it still works the same.
Jack: No, no, no, no. Because you're missing one very important piece.
Cristina: What's that?
Jack: How religion itself changed in structure to say, you're not just all gonna die, only those of you who haven't repented. So you can go and ask for forgiveness. Where?
Cristina: The church.
Jack: The church. Okay, now the church has a greater purpose other than it doesn't matter where you are when you are. No. Take your fear to one spot and be cleansed there. Because God now does a cleansing process the same way the kami. You go there, you pray to create that harmony.
Cristina: Yeah. I think he brought that knowledge and then did the church thing. Like that was Tess. It worked out. But he's like, how can I do continue?
Jack: I think it was Tess. I think it was functional. Yeah, I think it was all functional. Because the problem is the date in which this starts is precisely the dates surrounding Jesus. It's all around the first couple of years that we count.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Which means it wasn't that he ran tests and then. Oh, they work. Let me go over there and apply it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No, no, no. It happened simultaneously everywhere on Earth.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Everything just changed. To go into the building and you will be forgiven.
Cristina: Oh, at the same time as the temple?
Jack: At the same time as the temples.
Cristina: Huh? I wonder why. I guess just because it made more sense in the different places.
Jack: The problem is we already had churches.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And it wasn't doing that beforehand. So it was impossible for us to connect the dots because it was just like, well, religions naturally evolve over time, blah, blah, blah. No, but this didn't exist in Japan.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They just suddenly had shrines.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And so that gives us the information we need because at the same time, the shrines showed up also. New Testament forgiving God, so long as you go and get forgiven.
Cristina: Yes, but then it all leads back to Jesus, though.
Jack: It all leads back to Jesus.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yes, but it wasn't a test. No, it was definitely not a test. Because if it was a test, there would be a discrepancy in time.
Cristina: No, but I guess he might have tried to bring the church to those places, but it didn't work out. So he was like, oh, these temples worked out.
Jack: No, there's no need for the church. He affected the churches that already existed because there were already churches.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: But had there not been churches, he would have just thrown temples because there's no reason to. How long would it take to influence an entire thing with a whole religion? Just abuse the religion they already have.
Cristina: Okay, okay, I see.
Jack: This way you could show up anywhere whenever you want.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: As opposed to slowly picking at, we gotta force religion to. Well, let me show up where my homies are and tell them, hey, guys, I can't show up over there. Go and force religion over there. It might take 300 years, but sometimes.
Cristina: That did happen, though.
Jack: Yeah, but no, they were. They already had their own religion. Oh, and then Christianity tried to force itself on there because while Shinto has a shrine, it doesn't have mass. So people show up independently. Yeah, when they want. There's no central. Nobody controls Shinto. There's no center, focus. So you go, you pray whenever you want, however you want, whatever you feel like it. But you come with that little bit of fear. You don't even realize you have the difference between churches. You can manifest Jesus easy. Put a hundred people in a room all at the same time.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Nevertheless, he tricked everybody into thinking a specific day is better than all the others. So you can. Can get a bunch of people collected in a bunch of places all at the same time and have mass fear energy accumulated, allowing him to move freely through earth.
Cristina: Yes, this makes sense.
Jack: So then they start pushing that where other religions just had small numbers. But important enough was at least he could already show up over there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it was a matter of we need them to be able to believe they could be forgiven or cleansed by going to this specific location, allowing me to manifest. And then Move freely.
Cristina: That's pretty amazing. Maybe he made some type of deal with these creatures because there had to be other creatures that wanted the same type of travel crap.
Jack: Ton of creatures coming through.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Problem is, too many of them are just feral creatures. Yes, a wolf that just ate a human.
Cristina: But that's why the church are fighting those creatures with their own creatures. Oh, maybe they were fighting not for good, but just for control. They have to get rid of those type of aggressive creatures for their own creatures to be okay.
Jack: Interesting.
Cristina: That's pretty cool.
Jack: I mean, not for their own creatures to be okay. They made creatures to fight the creatures. It was to keep the people okay.
Cristina: Yeah, because they still need enough people to make the fear to get the person that they actually care about moving around and whatever.
Jack: The church probably had no idea. There's no way the church would intentionally allow people to come from the dead. That would defeat too many purposes and too many already established narratives. You gotta understand, a single con man was in charge here. The same con man that was conning everybody all the time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's no giant conspiracy of the Church trying to bring people over?
Cristina: No, I'm not saying that. Just to protect what he wants. Protected? I don't know.
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: That they're fighting off these creatures so that we don't die.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: Because they need that blood to continue doing magic and whatever.
Jack: Got you. Yes, yes. I thought you meant like they wanted the churches and the shrines and crap to bring things from the other side.
Cristina: No, I mean, maybe Jesus, but yeah, Jesus, definitely. And there are other saints because supposedly saints are all magical beings as well.
Jack: Say it again.
Cristina: The saints are also magical beings as well. So they might also be bringing back those people. I don't know. I know. Their blood is magic.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: I don't know if it relates.
Jack: Probably. I'm assuming anybody who worked for the church had some connection to adrenochrome. Ah, yes, because that's the lineage that Jesus left behind. But he left behind a special secret when he showed up in person after his death. And the only people who knew that were the 12 apostles. Aka the other vampires.
Cristina: Yes. You think those vampires are still around?
Jack: They could be. We know that there's ancients. Are those the ancient vampires?
Cristina: Maybe the ancients, yeah, there's some that.
Jack: Are recorded having died. They're in the Bible. You know, they biblically lost their lives. I don't know if all of them dead. I don't remember if all of them died. Those might be the ancients. They might still be around some of. And I know that, man. It's possible that Muhammad is just Jesus by a different name. Because the other question here is, if the fear is consistent enough and you from the shadow realm know how to use it well enough, can you just permanently exist over here? You know, like, if it's permanently. Yeah. So you're wild, wet judge. You're in the shadow realm, and you require fear to show up. People in Japan call you a kami, and they tame you by giving you offerings and distractions, and then you don't hurt people. But you're not aware that you can wander the shadow realm to different pockets of this energy because you're just a wild animal and you're protecting your territory. You're in one area, and it's a similar replica of the mortal realm in the shadow realm. So, you know, like any other animal, you hang out in your territory.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But Jesus is like, I can like, pop in and now where the f*** I want. Because I have the conscious awareness that I can go wherever. Which then brings up an interesting point. People who are haunted by spirits of other people can be haunted by those spirits anywhere they go. You could live in this house, be haunted. You could go across the planet and realize you're still being haunted. And it's because that's a thinking person who's in the other side and knows, yeah, they can go to this other spot and use that pocket of energy.
Cristina: But those aren't ghosts, are they? They're just creatures that look like you're jinn. Yeah, like, I forgot. What's that lady called? The Weeping? No, the Banshee.
Jack: Yeah, the banshee.
Cristina: She can follow you.
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: Follows people. So. And she might not be anyone specific. Although people did come up with different histories of who she might be. Yeah, Just might be people, but might not be people. It's hard to tell.
Jack: Interesting, right?
Cristina: Yeah. Do we die and end up over there? I don't think so.
Jack: Well, this is the most interesting part about all this research is the fact that dead people can become kami according to Shinto belief.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yes. Which tells us a lot of what I'm saying has been confirmed.
Cristina: Okay, what, like, what kind of people become kami? Or it could just anyone.
Jack: Yeah, Anybody could become a kami.
Cristina: They don't have to do anything special.
Jack: Nope. There's no rules in Shinto.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Interesting, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: I wonder how they got that idea. It's got VP's original commie was Jesus. All right.
Jack: Interesting, right?
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: That is what I have found and seems to be quite accurately. So now we have a better understanding of how churches and shrines, the purpose of religion and how the. The first being might have come through and thus established anywhere that there wasn't already a strong force of religion, where people already gathered together in a building. Little places where they can funnel that same energy in a different kind of way.
Cristina: It's everywhere. It's everywhere. Wow.
Jack: It's fascinating, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Anyways, we're running out of time, but conclusions for days.
Cristina: Yes. I think we have a good picture of what's going on. Almost a complete picture. Almost.
Jack: Yes. And it seems that it's possible. It might be possible for us to specifically summon Jehovah without having to wait. We might not even have to go into the Shadow Realm. We could probably just summon him.
Cristina: We could just summon him with the chance and stuff. Or some other way.
Jack: With a shrine. With a shrine bringing enough people scared, particularly of seasons and things like that, that. I guess on the flip side, if we assume that there is a portal inside of the hole, then somehow in a church, there is a portal as well. And somehow there is a way to form a portal. I guess that would be the next step to find out if there is a portal to get to the Shadow Realm without adrenochrome.
Cristina: Whoa. We gotta find that. In a church.
Jack: That would be the best place to start looking, at least.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Anywhere that would have collective amounts of energy.
Cristina: Let's go to that main place. Isn't there a giant. The King Church? The giant church where the Pope lives?
Jack: Yeah, maybe. Maybe he has the portal. Maybe he's going in and out all the time.
Cristina: Ooh, we'll find out.
Jack: Anyways, that is that. That's Shinto for you. Nice little down that rabbit hole. And it seems that it fit. I had the theory and it did.
Cristina: It did.
Jack: It did. It felt very familiar somehow. Anyways, this is actually the first time we talk about Shinto in such detail. I guess.
Cristina: Yeah. Because I think we've mentioned it a few times.
Jack: We've mentioned it, but never really gone into great detail. So we don't really have any reference points for anybody else to go and dive into that. But you can find anything else that we've talked about in any of our previous episodes.
Cristina: We've talked about commies.
Jack: Maybe we've mentioned commies. Yeah. But we've never focused on Shinto as a belief system. But yeah, you guys can definitely find those episodes and a million more on the official website. Greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts. On Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.
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Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. He can't speak. I guess he chooses not to.
Jack: He might choose not to. Who says God speaks English?
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: Right? Like, why would he speak in a way we can comprehend by any means?
Cristina: What would it sound like?
Jack: Would it sound like. I like the. In Supernatural, when they heard Castiel's real voice and it shook and destroyed all the windows, it was just like this crazy loud and it destroyed all the windows and it made them all f****** temporarily deaf and everything.
Cristina: He did that on purpose.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And when they saw him, they went blind temporarily as well. Castiel, like his real form.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Well, the angels real form works like that. Like the God way of. Like you'll be minded.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They use vessels in order to traverse Earth for a reason.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.