Rambling 263: Christ's Goal
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Why did Jesus want followers? What was the point of his teachings? Do we know where he went? The duo unpack the first layer of Jesus’ intentions, focusing primarily on motive, teachings and plan. A discussion that reveals much more than the duo anticipated!
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Topics Discussed:
- Jesus Christ
- Lessons and Teachings
- Possible Aliases
- Intentions
- Contradictions and Explanation
- Beginning and Ending
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanities. Most absurd and baffling ideas.
Cristina: That's what we do here every day, all day.
Jack: Every day, all day. That's our job. That's our duty. Is that what we do? I guess. I guess we ground it so that you can process how crazy it is. What's that emoji of the Tim and Eric guy? Mind blown. Mind blown. Then it's like space. Oh, he does the mind blown thing. And then like, space and stars and, like, the universe coming into existence or whatever. That's essentially what we do here. And a lot of the time, or at least for, like, it feels like years at this point. I know it hasn't been years. It's been like, a year and some change, but it feels like a lifetime. Talking about the Elysians, the crazy size of the rabbit hole we have fallen into. But our job is to research.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So inevitably. Yeah, inevitably. Inevitably. There's. There's nothing. There's nothing we can do about this. If it's worth reporting on, then we must report on it. So as we're digging, we always come up with questions, and there's always questions that, say, lingering. And one of the main questions that we have ignored for a really long time was really associated with Jesus. We've made assumptions, left it hanging, cut it, left it where it was, walk away. And we're like, this is what's happening. But we recently realized that Jesus made a stop in China.
Cristina: Mm. Very random.
Jack: Yeah, like, very weird. Before going to Japan to build some Shinto gates, like, what the h*** is happening? So I was like, how do we track this guy? Like, what really happened? We've discussed everything else. I don't know if his point is relevant other than just like, I. I don't know. I don't know what's relevant. I don't know. It's relevant. So I'm like, whatever. Any leads? A lead, right? Like, it's better than nothing. So I'm like, okay, let's look at Jesus. But how?
Cristina: How?
Jack: Yeah, I'm wrapping my head around, like, how do we track you, dude? How do we find you? Where do I go? There's no wrapping.
Cristina: You go to China?
Jack: No, we already mess with the quantum computer. So that's where my mind went. So I go to the quantum computer and I Tell it, hey, can you tell me what is a way that I could use to track Jesus? What? And the quantum computer says back, well, you can use the application method that other people or the philosophies and other religions apply in order to like theologists and whatever, trying to decipher what came from what, which is compare and contrast when anything is identical. I'm like, what do you mean?
Cristina: Yes, what do you mean?
Jack: So the quantum computer suggests, well, characteristics that line up. Use scientific method to remove anything that doesn't matter. And once you have a pattern forming of things that are left behind. And so I'm like, okay, run that equation. And then it's like, okay, in all of these different religions and all of these different philosophies within the same region are different named individuals who seem to fit exactly the same characteristics.
Cristina: For Jesus.
Jack: For Jesus, we're talking of a virgin or holy or some terminology of purity. Woman who had the child, who is some special divine individual. And the same child around the same age dies and this different ways, but the same. Around the same time. And the same child comes back, comes back. So I'm like, okay, you hit something. Fine. Okay, let's follow this then. And we do follow this into these different individuals. And some more than one. There's several individuals, okay. And many of them, according to these narratives, existed at exactly the same time in different places, though different, not necessarily even different places. It's stories of a guy from wherever. Okay, so not necessarily. Maybe they're just. Maybe they'll adjust it and be like, oh, yeah, from over there, where we barely go. But all of these stories are surrounding Israel. They're in Egypt, they're in Northern Africa, they're in China, they're in. So these individuals, okay, have gone there. And so I thought that was fascinating. And we're gonna definitely jump through that very briefly. But what's more important is the path this man took and why, which is what we need to figure out based on whatever information we have.
Cristina: Okay, so where did he start? Well, I guess we know where he started.
Jack: We know where he started. But here's what's interesting and we'll circle back to it chronologically. But where he ended is so much more important. It brings me so much joy.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That where he ended. And also it seems he is immortal.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Like, yes, he definitely had that going on. I established that once I broke the 150 year gap following his steps.
Cristina: 150 year gap, yes, after I broke.
Jack: That amount of time and he s**** on that amount of Time, not like his grandfather. Like I still don't understand even just Jehovah seems to have disappeared. And I can't. Like he's definitely not older than 20, 000 years gone. Meanwhile Granddaddy millions, which doesn't make sense. Which doesn't make sense. And his dad came and went as some background noise like Yahweh. Yeah, whatever. Okay, you did nothing in your life. You were mentioned by nobody. Just the Jews once. Like what, bruh? Come on, homie, what's going on? Put your son powerful doing things. Your granddaddy out there making moves.
Cristina: Unless that's more than one person.
Jack: Unless that's more than one person. Unless that's more than one person. Who knows? Who knows.
Cristina: But not with Jesus is for sure. One guy who's living forever.
Jack: It seems to be okay, so it has to be right because the narrative is too exactly the same. We don't have stories of loi, not many two or three instances and brief mentions, mentions here and there. But we don't have any extensive hard hitting. This is a fact. Look over there. And here's the proof. And there's the thing. Like we could see. The closest we got are these pipes that maybe or maybe not.
Cristina: Okay, that's it.
Jack: Maybe. Or maybe not. The end. Maybe he wasn't involved in that. His society for sure. Was he? I don't know. They many of them, who knows. But there's a thing called Mithra. Mithras. And Mithras is essentially fitting all the same characteristics as Jesus with the most important point being of the Virgin Mary that literally in their own language, the word her name when you translate it is the same word we would use for Mary. So it was Virgin Mary. And Mithras was an individual in Mesopotamia.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Okay, there was some other thing called Mani. And Mani was an Iranian prophet and the founder of Manichaeism, which essentially is a faith. Now the spiritual teachings of this individual similar. Him and Mithras had almost identical teachings according to what people report about these individuals.
Cristina: These are two different people.
Jack: No, I think everybody I'm telling you about is the same guy going. I think this is the. I don't know if he was going by aliases.
Cristina: Okay, but that would make it make sense.
Jack: That would make sense. But at least in their language, this is how they were referring to these individuals. And between Many and Mithras we have the following. They both had teachings like Jesus and preached messages of love and peace and spiritual enlightenment in the same area, in the same general vicinity. Now both of these Individuals emphasize the importance of living virtuous lives and seeking salvation through divine grace. Now, in the case of Christianity and in the case of Manichism, Manicheism, whatever, and the teachings of Mithras, these three individuals shared the idea that they believed in essentially the shadow realm and would consistently talk about, if you want to be released from this life, then you must stay away from bad things, and bad things are whatever trap you in the cycle of life. Now, a lot of these things are what make their way into the beliefs of Hinduism. Right.
Cristina: But what are they saying about the shadow realm?
Jack: Well, the shadow realm is where you go if you do bad things. And the bad things would be presumably doing things like adrenochrome and, I guess, things that would expose you to some of these situations that would then allow you to not permanently die and not just die, but thinking about some of these ancient texts and some of these descriptions of the shadow realm and then comparing and contrasting them with all the different variations we've seen of like, h*** and Helheim and all these other different instances that are the same. You know, the heaven, the h***, the limbo, or whatever the crap. Thinking about that, when we talk about the shadow realm and the processes that are potentially there, it makes sense that everybody was talking about the same process. All philosophies break down into what, including Christianity. The Earth is h***. Oh, right. And so that tells us a lot if you're going somewhere else, but you're staying here.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They're telling us that the shadow realm and earth realm were both the same thing. It's in the writing.
Cristina: They're h***.
Jack: It's the same. But h*** is more of a circumstance, isn't it? Because h***, in this case would be the visualization that everybody's talking about burning and screaming and suffering. But what does that look like if not somebody who's had adrenochrome and stopped? Okay, interesting. Right.
Cristina: Well, there's then a heaven. What is that?
Jack: The heaven would be freedom, I guess, being freed from this thing. I think heaven isn't literal. I think heaven was just the opposite to this torture they knew of.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So it's like, we don't know what it is, but it must be better than this torture. You go, yeah. And they could see the torture, and they know of it. And people coming back as twisted, contorted ghosts and things like that. Horrible monsters made of people they used to know and creatures that were once theirs and things that were once normal but just twisted and turned into whatever. And enough catastrophe or fear happens it's the Middle Ages, and you don't know know what the h*** is in the woods. And there's some monsters screaming, and it's really just a bear, but you get f****** scared because you don't know what the f*** it is and you've never heard it before. Enough fear gets generated. And now some crazy, like a werewolf that had too much adrenochrome comes through, and you got a wet judge over here, and you're like, demons and s***. That's h***. It's all h***. It's all depictions of h***. It's the descriptions we have of h***. It's just things that have always been happening and in front of our faces.
Cristina: Yeah. So wait, the shadow realm is h***, but so is Earth.
Jack: So is Earth. Because h*** is the process, if it goes wrong, that you should stay away from and you should want to die anyways, because that's what gives.
Cristina: Are they talking about people drinking blood, though?
Jack: They're talking about people doing bad things.
Cristina: Okay. But not that specifically.
Jack: I don't know. Because then the argument becomes very contradictory when you think of how many of these religions. And this is another part where both Mithras and Manny come into play. They preach a lot about this unity in dining, in drinking symbolic things and eating symbolic things, which is uncontradictory because obviously what you're talking about is eating and drinking adrenochrome.
Cristina: Are you sure? Is that the blood of Christ?
Jack: Yes. Which is adrenochrome.
Cristina: Okay, Yeah, I guess it is the same.
Jack: That's where the problem lies.
Cristina: Telling you not to do that, but.
Jack: Then telling you to do that, but it's specifically.
Cristina: I don't know, Somehow it's different, because they want to control those people. It's like, you can't have other blood. You can't have random blood. You have to have my blood.
Jack: But the question is, why? What's the difference? Elysian blood. He's doing something weird to them. He's doing something weird to them. It's Alician blood. We never thought about this. Oh, my God. We never thought about this, dude. It was very important that he con people out of specific things. So let's follow the pro. Oh, my God. Let's follow the thought here.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: The Elysians come out. They're like, f*** this kid. They run away, hide where they're gonna hide, make sure he can't get to them. They establish Christianity, the Catholic Church, then with Peter, right? And they make the Knights Templar. Jesus, on the other hand, goes out of his way to confiscate that same movement, thus creating weird division. In fact, what happened with Jesus is a lot of sort of what happened, I guess, opposite to Arthur, which is Arthur had many narratives hitting him because of the original narrative created by Merlin and then the narrative created later by the lady of the Lake, which was the confusing situation that led to him doing the thing while Jesus is confiscated the same way the lady of the Lake confiscated the narrative that already existed. So Jesus comes and confiscates the narrative built around him by the Catholic Church using his ex homie Peter, and at the rule of the Elysians, with the help of the Knight Simpler. He still manages to con a bunch of people into they have to drink his. He made the strongest movement of this. So this is like struggling, right? This is a bad. The Catholic Church.
Cristina: You think it's his blood specifically, though, that's somehow different because he's an elution, not because he's special in many other ways.
Jack: No. Something about Elysian blood is affecting the people. And he figured this out. Alicia and adrenochrome is somehow different. And we never considered the fact that.
Cristina: Do you think he just figured that out or do you think that Alicia knows about that and there.
Jack: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know that. That Jesus Christ went out of his way to tell people specifically or his followers, even if there's no message. We know directly of his mouth saying, but not to follow anyone else. Don't do this, don't do that. All of which is evil. All these rituals are evil. All blood drinking is evil. All this is evil. All that's evil. Satanic. Oh, it's Satanic.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: Meanwhile, you're telling your people to do the same thing. It just so happens to be your blood.
Cristina: But is it because it's so hard to say that it's because he's an Elysian and it's Elysian blood or it's his specifically because he's just. He's just different.
Jack: But I mean, I guess also, yes, he's very different because he's different.
Cristina: So is his blood just a little bit different than their blood or is it exactly the same? Like, how would we know? We need stories of lesions sharing their blood or something to humans or something. Like there has to have been some Aletians that were into blood stuff too. As though we always assumed that they were always above that and didn't touch blood at all because they had other things. But even Jesus had other things, but that didn't stop him from using his blood on his victims?
Jack: I don't know, man. Jesus is so complicated.
Cristina: So were they also experimenting with blood? Like, even though. Like, they probably didn't drink blood, like, they were smart enough to probably know, like, we're gonna get addicted or whatever, that doesn't stop it from them knowing people get addicted to it. Like, someone had to have tried it. There's no way. No lesion in history didn't go down that path.
Jack: No, for sure. Okay, clarify that.
Cristina: Is their blood special? I just want to know that for sure. It has to be them specifically.
Jack: I don't know if it's majestic blood. Well, you know, I don't know. But it's different than human blood. The argument would be, if you got adrenochrome from a cat, is it different than if you got adrenochrome from a person? These are things you've never thought about. I guess it would have to be.
Cristina: Okay in that way. I guess. Yeah.
Jack: And then there's something particularly unique or interesting.
Cristina: Like you can still get it from the cat, though. Yes, but it would definitely not be the same if you got it from a person.
Jack: No, it would be something completely different, especially children.
Cristina: Question mark.
Jack: But, like, yeah, age seems to make a difference. Yeah, maybe. It's so sensitive. I mean, think about it. Age makes a difference. If you eat it versus you drink it, it makes a difference. If it's distilled through somebody's body, it makes a difference. Why wouldn't the species you get it from make a difference? Age makes a difference. I'm sure gender makes a difference. We think of stories of vampires. Some vampires prefer children. Some vampires prefer women. Some vampires prefer men. Different flavors.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: There's just blood alone. There's different tastes. So functionally, chemically speaking, they're also different. Men have more testosterone. Females have more estrogen. The makeup of all of this stuff, whatever it might be doing, is all different.
Cristina: So, yeah, I guess it could be his lesion blood.
Jack: It could be the Elysian blood. It's specifically the Elysian blood, and that's the case here. That's what's making it so interesting to begin with. It's something about either the fact that it's Alician blood, or he's learned how to control people who've had his very blood. Or, I don't know. I don't know. There's something related to him specifically because he talked people out of all these other things. But it's. It's also complicated because. Then why is he Going around making different groups. Because that's the other problem. In all of these instances, he's traveling around and he makes a different establishment of people. Maybe the religion isn't the point. Maybe that's just an easy way to get service. Maybe he's an excellent con man. It's like, if I get followers, they just do what I want and I could get my things done and move on. Then if I ever come back, they're just here to do whatever the f*** I want. He has pockets of people everywhere, and they'll keep sending his message and his idea, so you can come back and stroll through. The goal is freedom and movement and go wherever and do whatever.
Cristina: So all these versions of Jesus, these stories that you have, they all are about that, though. They're all about, like, get. Have my body and my blood. Yeah.
Jack: Every single one of these guys has the same idea, and they're all from the same general region as discussed by the people of that area we have between Mithras and Mani specifically. That's a lot of information on its own, because these individuals, right on top of the fact that they preach the same thing and they have that same resurrection thing going on. The point of the baptism and of cleansing an individual to then be pure, this ritual of purification and that then you can die and be consumed by God or whatever the case might be.
Cristina: What?
Jack: And that's a weird thing that in Christianity, isn't worded that way, but in the teachings of Mithras and Mani, both talk about this sort of reunification with the greater thing and explain it in a way that's similar to being devoured.
Cristina: That's exactly where my mind went. Like, he wants you to be pure so he can eat you. Because, like, who doesn't want to eat pure meat? Like, the best meat is probably the best meat. If you're unpure, that's probably crappy me. Who wants that meat? Whoa.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: Interesting. He's sharing his blood and body, and he may be eating you. Okay, that's weird.
Jack: He's. And I'm about to blow your mind.
Cristina: A vampire. No, we know that, but I continue.
Jack: He is to adrenochrome what Santa Claus is to fear. He spent his time prepping people so that they would willingly say, what? Sacrifice themselves for him, thinking this is the path towards liberation, when really this is an Elysian that's been genetically engineered to be better than every Elysian and then still decided to create an infinite source of adrenochrome that even the most elite of individuals has not come up with. Because even Santa Claus comes second to this because all he has is fear. Jesus has a stronger, more widespread source of individuals under many different names willing to just be eaten by him and eat him willingly back and forward. It's a war. And he's winning by miles. Well, in the darkest manner possible. Like what you can sit. He's the devil. By the definition of what people describe.
Cristina: The devil to be, I guess, yes.
Jack: He's convinced people successfully that they can sacrifice themselves to him and his entire ideology, whatever that might look like. And it's very important in every one of these religions. These are just the most identical. There are definitely conversations of him, but this idea spread globally. He can go anywhere and assume whatever name they've invented simply by the story traveling and prove, however, that it is him under whatever name and guarantee that somebody will just lay in front gladly give them whatever because he has implanted this idea so granularly into everybody's minds.
Cristina: Insane. But he did do it.
Jack: It's a story that keeps going similar to Santa Claus. Now we're talking about the big players, okay?
Cristina: But these two stories, though, are specifically about that, about him wanting them to be clean.
Jack: For this is the clarification stories, okay? These are the stories that matter because these are the stories where all the lines cross. This is a message he tried to get across very prominently, which got across in the case of his name, Jesus, when he went by Jesus, which in Persia was Emmanuel. But we know that somehow he influenced it and Jesus happened. And somehow over there happened Mithras, and somehow over here happened Mani. Many names, many places, traveling the world, establishing. And these stories move on their own. The one that grew the most is about Jesus. But that's just one of the many names. And where Jesus didn't take, there's just more likely than not a different version of himself, which was definitely him. Either the story told or him rolling up, being there for a while and making sure they had the story anyways.
Cristina: Interesting. But did he come from the same area when he came to these other locations?
Jack: Like that's the most fascinating part.
Cristina: Yes, same place.
Jack: Nobody necessarily knows exactly, but everybody's pointing in the same direction. So everybody to the far west of Asia, I mean, everybody to the east, everybody to the east of Asia is aiming towards their west. Everybody towards Europe is aiming down towards the Middle East. Everybody in Africa is aiming north west, I mean, northeast, landing us in the same area. When these stories are shared, which is that same Persian area which included Israel and all those places.
Cristina: Do you know Anything uniquely different about these stories, or are they so similar like, there is nothing?
Jack: Well, the differences are literally the part that doesn't matter because that's probably just culturally what those individuals added to the song.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: The similarities are what we can prove. We're the same individual. And like this thing about a couple of individuals having or not couple, but everybody. But he mentioned only a couple of times of purification through baptism is such a specific idea that it becomes too obviously the same individual. Like, there's no. There's no way three different random people tried to establish the same genius plan. And it follows the path that he took to. On his way to Japan. By the way, all of this seems that the point of this primarily is the fact that most of these events seems to have taken place in a route to Japan, going through the Middle east and then through Lower China area in Asia and then entering into. So his whole journey, he essentially made pockets of people to then spread the thing out. But here's the. What's weird? Here's what's weird.
Cristina: What?
Jack: And I think. I think there's a. A possibility that some harvesting is involved in here. Right. Because the concern is you're gonna eat these people. Or at least you want the ability for them to just give you. If you ever need anything. And then you also drop by really complicated technology like this ability to detect earthquakes and then predict where you need to go or what you need to do ahead of time to protect people. I guess in the interest of having the people stay around.
Cristina: Yeah. But also have to make them love you for something. Well, or whatever. Like they worship him.
Jack: Well, no, you need them alive. Dead people can't offer themselves. But not only can dead people not offer themselves to you, if you want to just cruise through a perfect world designed for you, well, you want everybody to be as technologically advanced as possible and worship you simultaneously. You want the highest level of technology you've ever seen, like the Elysians. But you want everybody to bend to you so you don't have to know how to use it. You don't have to give a f***. You just say the word and whatever the h*** you want gets done by people who do know how to use the thing. That's ultimately the goal. People who do know how to use the thing.
Cristina: But he's giving them tech from his. No.
Jack: Well, he's also making his own things.
Cristina: Making his own things. He's not getting it from anywhere. He's not getting it from the Aletians.
Jack: No. And the thing that's Telling us maybe he did come across a couple of things, you know, but what's really giving us the most information is the Shinto gates. Because he gave this to those people with purpose. Purpose that serves him.
Cristina: Yes, that's the most important part, I think.
Jack: Yes. Gates that serve him. And the belief is twisted because it's everybody serving him so good at that. Yes, everything serves him. Everything is in his favor. That's the goal. I don't think he's trying to do anything specifically other than I'm over, you know, who he is, who. He's Homelander. Everything should exist for him because he's the greatest, best thing ever. Except he can bend everybody to do it if they don't want to. I guess his tool isn't. I'm a superhero with superpowers, but I am way more advanced and I got a mind that can twist you up. I can make you think whatever the h*** I want. I have some kind of psychic influence on people.
Cristina: What his enemies were like, did he have any. Was it even possible? Like, would he just get rid of them?
Jack: I think the Elysians were the ones who tried their best. A way to control the situation.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: But it works, and we know that it works. And there's a different instance to have.
Cristina: All these different stories because, like, what if Jesus didn't get that big?
Jack: Like any of them could develop? You just. It's always you.
Cristina: And it doesn't matter if they become big, like they don't have to become worldwide. If they're just many in those locations, that's fine enough.
Jack: Yes, you know where to go because you know where you've been. Mm, simple logic. You know where to go because you know where you've been. And that's where you could do whatever you want. And anybody's gonna do whatever you want for you.
Cristina: Well then, then the. Did the Alicians make the problem worse by spreading this religion? You think he twisted it, though?
Jack: I think he twisted it. I think the religion was designed in order. Or maybe not. Maybe not, maybe not. I have no idea. I have no idea because maybe no, it was he. Jesus did do it first. And then the attack was on Jesus. First they cast him out, then they ignored him for a long a** time. Right. That he gets born out there. They're like, he. The intent was for him to be born in Cyprus, but he doesn't. And they're like, whatever. And so like, we tried to put him somewhere safe. He didn't let him be out there. And then he. At the age 30 starts to rile up. And then they're like, him. F*** his movement. He's gonna die for all his movements. Yeah, kill him. Kill him. It's too much. He's being a problem. He's being a problem.
Cristina: They have to do with that.
Jack: Maybe. Makes sense, because then Peter gets put as the spearhead, and they create a different version of his same narrative. Catholicism.
Cristina: But that was him or them.
Jack: That's Peter. In the name of Jesus, but really as directed by the Elysians. Confiscating the narrative. But somewhere within that. Again, the original texts are very specific. The original texts are very specific. All of those are public access. But somehow. And they go out of their way to talk about not doing particular things. You know, don't worship these individuals. Onto this, onto that. Think about this clearly, you know, put your faith in this. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Which were, you know, what's the attempt to manipulate here? And this individual still manages to trick people, despite the fact that the drinking blood and the eating the flesh, which is ambrosia. And it is. What is it? Ichor. Ambrosia and adrenal chrome. No, adrenochrome is what all three of them are.
Cristina: Oh, I thought that was a type 2.
Jack: No, Adrenochrome is three things.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Which are ambrosia and. What is it called? Ambrosia is the food. Ichor is once you've distilled it through the body of somebody else. And finally. Crap. What was the name? It was called. And nectar is the fluid.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Nectar is the fluid. Those are the three versions of adrenochrome. And he's managed to get people still convinced that despite the efforts that the Elysians put through Peter and through the Knights Templar, he still managed to, like, beat all that ideology with his cunning or whatever the crap. He has something. But he could literally brainwash people, is the other problem.
Cristina: Yes, that's what it seems like.
Jack: Yeah. And he's created some sort of a thought bug. Interesting. Interesting. Because it's more powerful than every other. Everything that everybody's doing, even while he's not involved, it keeps moving despite external efforts of any measure.
Cristina: The idea.
Jack: Yeah. People have attacked it literally through murdering the individuals. And it'll just grow on its own again.
Cristina: Mm. But it was just this specific story of Jesus being Jesus, not any of the other versions. Only one version spiraled out of control.
Jack: I would argue that many other versions got absorbed because of similarities.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we actually have stories about that exact same thing happening. Right. Like Christianity slowly consuming other religions and adopting their ideas and beliefs.
Cristina: But they also break down to different religions in a way.
Jack: Yes, but we're talking Christianity as a whole before Christianity breaks down into its own things. Christianity as a whole already has all. Is swallowing all these other things. So, okay, he convinces them of the stories wherever he goes. So he uses his ability to brainwash, which is apparently the most overpowered ability, period, and he goes. And the trip looks like starting in the Middle east, traveling through China, heading south of Asia, crossing that area of Lower Asian countries, then entering Japan. Now we know one direction of that narrative. We've never considered what happens after that. What, does he disappear in Japan? He just gets here and poof? Well, no, because we know the gates are one way. So he still had to leave Japan. So he does leave Japan and he does who knows what for who knows how long. But interesting enough, we have a spot to start looking from where, because, and I'll explain the logic here, we have to look backwards from this date because the individual I'm going to talk to you about came to be in 1469. And the narratives this man gave were very similar with the same idea and fit everything about Jesus, Mani and Mithras. This individual's name is Guru Nanak. And this individual goes. He comes from. Follow this after an enlightening awakening journey of ideas and philosophers passed down through generations, going to the Far east in Asia and then coming back to then inform the local populace. Specifically just so happens to be that this individual was informed in this manner, shape or form of collected information. And so he was preaching the exact same things in the exact same way with the exact same idea. He talked about. He talked about the idea of a infinite punishment that seemed to be very reminiscent of h*** or of going through the things that you would go through from adrenochrome and of purifying yourself consistently, because you gotta offer yourself to God. This man who came from the Far east goes to India, and that's where this man settles, by the way, out of all of these narratives that lead to the man always coming back one way or another throughout the course of time. There is one key difference about Guru Nanak, which is his death was a final death. He gave his farewell, but he died.
Cristina: He came back and then he died for real, for real, as Guru. Is that what's happening?
Jack: As Guru Nanak, he dies for real, for real.
Cristina: But there's no.
Jack: He doesn't have resurrection.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: He doesn't need resurrection.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because keep in mind what I am saying. Where does he Go.
Cristina: I don't know. Where did he go?
Jack: I just said he went to India.
Cristina: Oh. And he died in India.
Jack: He dies in India. What is India a country?
Cristina: I don't know. I don't know what you're trying to tell me.
Jack: India is a location where we get the tools that seem to be able to kill fairies. And also where it seems that the fairies, which are just people from outside the program, it seems to be where they can most easily come through and be safest through. And it. That's just so where he happens to go. And that's where he settles out. Of all the trips he took, after all the information he got, everything he did landed him in India, of all places.
Cristina: And so his final death was escaping the Matrix.
Jack: It seems to be the case, or whatever.
Cristina: Yeah. Whoa.
Jack: I mean, it would have been more whoa if you could have realized it as I'm trying to feed it to you. But I gotta walk you all the way to.
Cristina: There's too many locations with too many things happening.
Jack: Like, we were talking about India. What else is this the only thing we know about India?
Cristina: I don't remember anything about India, though.
Jack: Not. The. The only fact about India is that that's where the fairies are from, apparently. Or not from. But that's where they come through, which is interesting. India. That's where all of Shiva and Fish, New Vishu, whatever his name was, and Brahma and all these individuals. Those are fairy names, and those are all in the Indian mythos.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Those people were directly interacting.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: With the people from the other side. Those were the preferred people because something about them just made it safer. I mean, the second they weren't in that area, they got massacred and then we were made.
Cristina: So fair enough, but wouldn't they be afraid of Jesus like they were afraid of that other random person?
Jack: I don't think they knew about Jesus. If they did, like, who the h*** is stopping Jesus?
Cristina: I don't know, dude.
Jack: Who the f*** is stopping Jesus? He's Skynet. He's the real Skynet. He's the Real Skynet. 100%.
Cristina: Then when did he build those things? Those things in Japan?
Jack: The Shinto gates?
Cristina: Yeah. Like, what time period was that?
Jack: Well, everything took place within three years under the name of Jesus. Everything happened between the age it was 30 and the age it was 33.
Cristina: But the stories of the Shinto gates, when were they built? We have a year that year specifically. That's a real year.
Jack: Yes. That took place in the year 20. Somewhere between 28 and 29.
Cristina: 28 and 29.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay. Why comparing it to this man that's.
Jack: Saying he's Jesus or whatever, this is 1450 years later.
Cristina: That's crazy. Why doesn't he live forever? I mean, no, he not leaving forever. Because he probably left. Okay, I see. Yes, yes, yes. That's why it's weird. Okay. Which also makes sense 100%.
Jack: 100%. And then what's interesting about this is if you follow the narrative and the origin to all of these stories, the original older texts don't include that re ascension moment until later rewrites of the story. This is how I announce absorbing stories, even if they keep standing. Now, the people who believe in Guru Nanak's teachings are the people of Punjab in India. And although they still exist, it seems to be the origin location, because following the 1500s is where we start to see show up in different biblical texts and interpretations of different religions the re ascension process that happens after the Resurrection.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: When he goes back up and joins whatever. Oh, the re Ascension. He dies. And then he tells his followers, I'm gonna leave you guys, and whatever.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That part wasn't part of the story originally. If you look at the text predating the ones that were written before the 14 and 1500s, you don't actually see the ascension happen.
Cristina: Oh, what?
Jack: Yeah, only the rewrites that happen after the teachings of Guru Nanak happened that got absorbed into texts. And then you get in the Bible, the mention of him going back to God and whatever.
Cristina: Originally, he just.
Jack: Just.
Cristina: He just lives for a. Pretty much. Or in.
Jack: He dies.
Cristina: He dies.
Jack: And then he comes back.
Cristina: And he comes back and then he dips out. Ah.
Jack: He just leaves. He dips. He's like, no, I'm not dying again.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But he reascends after Guru Nanak's teachings happen, where he. The only real instance that we have up into that moment of someone dying of him dying under one of these names not coming back.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And he knew he wasn't coming back. And so this literally modified all the other texts as they were written following this instance.
Cristina: Weird. Awesome. Awesome. That makes sense. That's so weird, though. Yeah. So he's Jesus or he's the last Jesus.
Jack: He's the last variant of him before he had to leave. Now, what's interesting here is we know where he landed and we know that this is presumably the same man many years later. So we have a finishing point, and we have a couple of narratives at the beginning that allows us to at least have a beginning and End where we can start working from both sides to link the entire timeline together and find out every step he took, where and why. All I need to know is the place. Then find out who he referred to himself as.
Cristina: We have all that information. Or is that for next week?
Jack: That's to find. That's the date. Those are the questions that have come up. Oh, by looking at Guru Nanak.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: And looking at money and looking at Mithras on top of the fact that there are others. But these individuals were so exact that it was unquestionable that they were the same individual, Jesus or whatever. Because Jesus is just, again, a name for him as well, which was wrong one. It's part of the narrative. We know his actual name was Emmanuel. We know that's his actual name. The part of twisting it is Emmanuel is an Alicia name that they couldn't get rid of and it's still bouncing around. So is Mary, ironically, and Joseph, A couple of Alicia names out there that just exist today. And so Emmanuel is one of them. And they tried their best to change it to Jesus, but it doesn't matter. Fascinating. And we have places to look.
Cristina: Yeah, we.
Jack: We can connect these two dots. I'm confident of it, because we have a beginning point and we have an ending point. We know he's actually not in the system. Bare minimum. He can forever access the system and has no reason to interact. He's in God level now and has no reason to interact with us.
Cristina: No, I don't think so.
Jack: But it helps to have all this thing happening. Adrenochrome. We still have to make it. Make it some sort of code or information.
Cristina: It still makes no sense.
Jack: But anyways, that's what we got. That's where we are. That's what we have. And those are the doorways we gotta, like, walk through.
Cristina: I feel like we figured something out.
Jack: We figured a couple of things out.
Cristina: About Jesus.
Jack: About Jesus. About Jesus. Settle. Setting groups up, essentially being like Santa Claus, but for adrenaline.
Cristina: Until he decided to leave forever.
Jack: Yes. Unless he's still using those things. Anyways, if you guys have any comments, questions, concerns relative to any of this stuff, you can hit us up on all our socials at. Just convopon on Twitter, on TikTok, on Instagram, on, I guess Twitter's X now on Facebook.
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Jack: Yes. And.
Cristina: You know, tell everybody.
Jack: Tell everybody about the show. Word of mouth is the most exaggerated, most powerful thing that has ever existed under the sun. And it's important because we're getting to the bottom of grounding it, man. We're grounding it, right?
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Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister. With social media managed by Amber Black.
