Rambling 176: Capitalist Escorts
/What does it mean to be a whore? What will we find in the journal we stole from the queen? How many fish for that milk? The duo gets granular trying to understand how most human behaviors and economies are different versions of whoring.
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Topics Discussed:
- Does Your Nanny Love You?
- What is a whore?
- The Difference Between an Escort and a Hooker
- Capitalism
- Barter
- Communism
- Why Eternity is Bad!
- Deadly Fanatics
- Jay Z the Reptilian
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yes. So bring somebody. Bring. Bring the whole family. It's a family friendly show.
Cristina: Bring your person that raised you. Not your parents, your babysitter, your babysitter.
Jack: The nanny.
Cristina: The nanny.
Jack: Show this show to the nanny.
Cristina: Yes, to the nanny. She'll appreciate it.
Jack: Will she? I mean, your nanny would understand your sense of humor and love to have seen you grow up and be interested in the things you're interested just because you're interested in them. Your nanny, who is who show who showed up to your, like, baseball game, you know, well, mom and dad ignored you for work because they didn't really love you. They loved professionalism, and you were just kind of an accident of them f****** each other.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So the nanny is your real. They really love you. They're just like, this is a child I've seen grow up. All your parents have never seen you grow up. They barely know anything about you.
Cristina: Then again, she was like, paid to take care of the child, so maybe she doesn't care either.
Jack: Maybe she doesn't care either, but she doesn't have to care anymore now that you are an adult bringing her the show. Because they're not children listening.
Cristina: Yeah, but she's gonna be like, who cares?
Jack: So you think she won't give a f***? And she's like, whatever, get out of here. Yeah, not my responsibility anymore.
Cristina: And then you gotta be like, I'll pay you. And then she'll be like, okay.
Jack: Yeah. I mean, that's what she does. Is nanny essentially a w****? She's just selling her.
Cristina: She's selling her time. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. I mean, I guess. I guess any job. The problem is you're selling you.
Cristina: Yes. Every job, you're selling you.
Jack: Yeah. I guess accepting money to do anything is whoring.
Cristina: So everyone's a.
Jack: Everyone who accepts money for. Yeah, everybody.
Cristina: Like, what doesn't?
Jack: Yeah, everybody's a.
Cristina: Everyone's a. Yeah.
Jack: There's no one who's not a w****.
Cristina: Mm. Mm. Unless you, like, I don't know how you get money and you never make money. You just Inherited a bunch of money from your parents and you don't make more of it. That would be the only way. Like, you don't. Like, usually if you get money from your parents there because they have business, and then you go and do that business so your parents.
Jack: So that you don't have to.
Cristina: Yeah. So you have to be someone who doesn't even do that. Who does that.
Jack: Who doesn't even do what? Wait, explain that again.
Cristina: Do any job for no reason. Just.
Jack: It has to be for free.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess. If they do a job for free. No, that's. Is that still whoring?
Jack: It's not whoring because you're not selling anything.
Cristina: You're not selling anything. But what's the point?
Jack: You're donating your time.
Cristina: You're donating your time. I guess that sounds better.
Jack: Yeah. But you're not.
Cristina: You're not getting anything from it.
Jack: Yeah. It's selfless.
Cristina: Yeah. Mmm. Probably not many people do that, though.
Jack: Probably not. And I'm sure some people are supported that way. They don't expect anything for anybody and they do anything for everybody. Hoping that maybe people take care of them, but not really expecting any individual. It's just like people who choose to be homeless as opposed to people who are unfortunate enough to be homeless. But this homeless person isn't really homeless. They're nomadic. They just kind of. I'll do any job for just. I'll do. I'll do a job. And sometimes people take care of me.
Cristina: Okay. But they can't get paid for that job. Or they're a w****.
Jack: They can't expect pay for the job. That's whoring.
Cristina: Expecting pay.
Jack: Expecting pay for the work is the whoring part. If somebody gives you a gift. Yeah, that's different. Because you weren't expecting anything. It's a gift.
Cristina: Mm. So everyone is. Okay. Almost everyone is w****.
Jack: Yes, everybody's a w****.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Is this. We consider hooking like. Hooking is whoring? Yes, like all other whoring. Except hooking is whoring. That'll make you sick. Like if it's done in correctly. Right. I guess there's a difference to be had between an escort and a hooker.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because the hookers like streetwalker. Right. While escort is like this professional. I try to be clean. You try to be clean. Right. It's like a fancy hooker.
Cristina: I guess, if you want to pretend it's like pretending that it's not the same thing.
Jack: No. You have higher paying clients. Like, a hooker is cheap. Right. Okay, so a hooker is like 20 bucks I'll suck your d***. While an escort is like, $3,000.
Cristina: Who made the choice? Is she making the choice that she's better, therefore, $3,000?
Jack: Like, no. I'm assuming that the prices are so that it's harder to find clients, but the clients are safer because they're richer. They're not just idiots out there catching s***. They have the funds to pay somebody clean. So if you are clean, you then charge more because you're charging for their safety.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You know, so that does make you better. You're better than a streetwalker. And you probably. Instead of. You come pick me up. I just go to your house. Like, you call me up or whatever, and I just go to your house. You don't have to go and find me on the street or anything. I don't do that. I'm an escort. I'm fancy. I probably got a bodyguard that drives me.
Cristina: Mm. I guess there's a difference.
Jack: Yeah. Between a hooker and an escort. They're both whores.
Cristina: Mm. So is everyone else, but.
Jack: So is everyone else. Whoring is just the way of the land.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If you believe in capitalism, then you believe in whoring.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yeah. Because. Because the barter system isn't you whoring. You make the product. Your time goes into the product. You're gonna use the product too.
Cristina: Yeah, that makes sense.
Jack: Yeah. So the barger system is really you just putting all your time into the product. And then I already have the product.
Cristina: So too bad we can't go back to that. We can't go backwards.
Jack: Well, it's hard to manage so many people in a barter system. Like, a bargism is small community s***. It's like everybody kind of has something to offer. But the problem is, nowadays, a lot of people don't have skill. The world is so big. There's so many people.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, picture it like this, right? How many milkman does the town in? You know, like f***. Okay, so if you have a town, let's say Your town has 40,000 people in it and there's one milk man. Well, that's a problem. That milkman must mass produce milk. How the f*** is he gonna do it?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So there could be many milkmen in that town. So there's many milkmen in the town. But it's about the barter system. So I agree with you on a price and for. I agree with you for what you're gonna give me.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So I can say, you know, your one bread is worth one of my milk. But then the fisherman is like, well, my one fish is worth one of your milks. Okay, we all agree. But then there's the other milkman and he's like, well, I need two fish for the milk. And it's like, well then I'm just not gonna f****** shop at you, bro.
Jack: So then the barter died already because you don't get to choose your price, otherwise you don't survive. If it's just one milkman, that works, but now all the milkman have to kind of be in line or you get phased out because everybody else has a better product and better price. You need both things. If your product sucks, you can't charge the same price.
Cristina: What price are you charging?
Jack: Everybody was doing one to one. Okay, one loaf of bread for one carton of milk. Oh, okay, one carton of milk for one fish. But the other guy wants two fish for his milk. He's not gonna make money. I mean, not money. He's not gonna get fish because the guy who has a fish is just gonna go to the guy who does one for one. I'm losing out less fish and still getting the same amount of milk. So that doesn't work because you already need more than one milkman. But okay, so there's a bunch of milkmen, there's a bunch of people who give the products and they all stay in line. So okay, barter system doesn't work in that account. But you then have the problem of what is it. You have individuals who are, I guess they don't agree with the prices. Right. You have people who make a price and people disagree with the price and then that person gets phased out entirely. So that can't work. The point of money is the agreement of. Well, it's the price that it is.
Cristina: Yes. So that makes it. That's the easiness of just dealing with money then trying to come up with it yourself.
Jack: Yes, 100%.
Cristina: And like everyone's just like, nah, it's definitely worth more or whatever.
Jack: Yes. And then the second problem is what of the people with no skill? What are you giving me? Like we can't, okay, so we can only have a certain amount of milkman before there's too many milkmen, there'll be too many milkmen.
Cristina: There's a lot of people who also think they have skills in things that they might not actually have skill in that thing.
Jack: 100%. But like, so the milkman and let's say the construction worker, well, I don't need anything built. So what's the construction worker going to give Me, I don't need. I got everything I need. But the construction worker needs the milk.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So f*** you, construction worker. You're. You're not a benefit in my life.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You're not just gonna give them the milk. That's crazy. Then you're losing product. You don't need anything with something. No, see, that's a problem because you don't need every service.
Cristina: Mm, that's true. Yeah.
Jack: So then you go on a trade a thon.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So I don't need the milk, but I need bahini. Okay. So I don't have any service he needs.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So I need to go to Bob, who does need me to do something. I asked the milkman what he needs. Then he's like, I need this thing, but I don't sell that thing. So I gotta go find what that guy needs.
Cristina: He needs a hat.
Jack: And then find what that guy needs. Who will get that for him. And then you do that. Oh, yeah. You go to the hat guy and ask the hat guy, do you need me to build you something? And he's like, no. He's like, but, oh, so what do you need? Well, I. I love shoes, but I work at a f****** hat store. So the construction workers, like, I go to shoe guy. Shoe guy. Do you need me to build something? Okay, yes. I'll build you a shoe rack. So I built the shoe rack, got the shoes, took him to the hat gu. Got the hat from the hat guy, took him. Okay. This is a f****** process.
Cristina: Get to the milk guy, find out the milk spoiled. Nah.
Jack: Yeah. No, it's ridiculous. A super pointless series of events. So what do you do? You make the symbol.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Well, this is worth again, too many people. So the. Everybody needs a standard pricing system. It falls into default. You need it or you starve.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So all the milk is worth one fish. All the milk is worth one fish. All the bread is worth one fish, and all the bread is worth one milk. But now we're just gonna say the price is one. That's the value of that. It's one. The value is one. One what? One one.
Cristina: Not dollar one?
Jack: No, just one. One. Okay, it's one one. And what about the car? Well, that's hundred ones, you know. Okay, so now we have a financial system so that I can give you the number instead of the thing you don't need, and I can use that number to get the thing I do need.
Cristina: How would you get to the hundred ones? Like, give him a hundred eggs.
Jack: No, you have the milk. You can sell the milk to anybody who comes for the milk because they need it and hoard all the ones. And now you have. You sold a hundred milks to one person at a time, made a hundred ones. Now you can go buy a car. That's how money happens. Yeah. Some money happens because you. The barter system has to. Basically, capitalism is the evolution of barter.
Cristina: Mm. That's why I said we. We can't go backwards. Back to that. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. Although it's great. It's just impossible to go back.
Cristina: But should we. What's the next step?
Jack: I guess what's the next step of the. I don't know, phasing out money. Everybody being given a default survival cost.
Cristina: A card with all the money or whatever.
Jack: Housing should be provided by the government and given to anybody equally. And people who earn extra money can buy or own or go bigger than need be.
Cristina: But all the money should just be digital.
Jack: All the money is digital.
Cristina: Well, there's still cash.
Jack: Yeah, but who cares?
Cristina: Cash is still. People use cash.
Jack: Rarely. More and more. Everything is digital.
Cristina: Well, it should just be completely.
Jack: Yeah. Before long it's gonna be there. I say in the next 15 years. There's no more like money circulating long enough. It's fake numbers moving around.
Cristina: Coins. I need a coinless life.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: It's just so annoying.
Jack: Yeah. Coins do suck, though. That being said, I wonder why coins is where we went with it. I guess it's like following the whole golden chip thing, right? Like, I could trade you this golden chip. We've all agreed the golden chip is worth this much of everything or whatever the f***.
Cristina: What's the golden chip?
Jack: Like a coin, except it's not really a coin until we got machines to make coins or melted gold into molds and make coins or whatever with how we did with copper and like silver and s***.
Cristina: Yeah. How do we end up there?
Jack: Yeah. We just decided, like. And here's the weird thing about that. In those times before a centralized kind of current that the federal government manages, all the places chose their price. Now, within the community, the prices are agreed upon.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But there isn't like massive trade from one place to the other yet. Because we don't have long distance, fast transportation yet.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So within all the towns, they got the chooser prices. It could be worth very different. And keep in mind that the towns would base the price on the amount of gold available in the town. So if there's a s*** ton of gold, maybe that milk carton is 20 gold. But in your town with barely any Gold. If you're assuming you're using the same mold for some reason and your coins are the same size in this town with very little gold milk could be one coin.
Cristina: Wouldn't that. Is that exactly how it works now, though? Like, if you went to somewhere that the town is. You know, the people are more rich.
Jack: There, like, higher income.
Cristina: Yeah. The bottles of water are gonna cost more in the grocery store.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that is still kind of how it works out.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But it's way less of a, like, significant difference.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: Because it's still kind of the same currency to some degree.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's not like here, bottle of water is $1. Over there it's 50.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: You know, like, they're way closer together. Like, chances are most places are gonna have a bottle of water around a dollar on average. Almost any state you go to.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Close. Some less, some a little more.
Cristina: Yes. There's probably some that are.
Jack: Yeah, there's variants, but it's very, very similar.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: While in those times in the past when, like, it's really up to how much we could call. Currency within the town can vary quite wildly.
Cristina: You think so?
Jack: Yeah, I think, like, the super. Like the town with the gold miners.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And I don't mean miners made of gold. I mean mining adults who go in, like, they have a huge gold mine and bunch of profit.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: It's mad currency in that town.
Cristina: You think they're selling their water. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Jack: But, like, if you were to put the exchange rate, then. Yes. In both places, it's more or less the same. Now it's hard for you from the poor town to move into the higher gold town because what can you afford? Everything is more expensive there. You can't get into that town.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You're an outsider. But it's really easy for them to move into your town where everything is one gold and they get just carrying around 20 gold at all times in their pocket.
Cristina: There's no way. That makes no sense. Why?
Jack: Who's forcing mayors and governors to, like, centralize anything back then?
Cristina: The government.
Jack: What government? There's no federal government back then.
Cristina: Where is money around?
Jack: Money's been around forever.
Cristina: Before there were governments.
Jack: Yeah. I think. I'm pretty sure before there was, like, an officialized government, like kings and queens times they still had currency.
Cristina: Yeah. There was still queens and kings and stuff.
Jack: Right. But there's no. Why would me as a king. Why would I give a s*** about your kingdom as a queen and what the f*** you guys have as A cost? No, I'm basing everything on my kingdom.
Cristina: Oh, okay, I see. Yes, yes.
Jack: Yeah. I'm not gonna be like, well, that kingdom made everything cheap. What? My people were filthy f****** rich. They better give some s*** back to the kingdom. The f***.
Cristina: Oh, okay. You know, whatever. Yeah.
Jack: Can't just be a bun. Like, what would make. It would make sense.
Cristina: No, I guess it wouldn't make sense. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah. Ultimately everybody's gonna hurt equal regardless of where they are. Unless they're like under a tyrant or some s***.
Cristina: Who just takes everything.
Jack: Yeah, who just takes everything? But like, if we said the leader is fair and it's just everything is based on how much money floats around your town on average, then. Yeah, that definitely.
Cristina: Then every town would be very different.
Jack: Yes. All the towns would have different things going on. Now the real question is, could there be a town that has no currency and doesn't use the barter system? Like, what would be the other option?
Cristina: What would be the other option?
Jack: Yeah, there's communism where you don't have, like, nobody owns anything. The milkman makes milk for all.
Cristina: Different from everything that's already been made.
Jack: Yeah. I'm just saying, like, okay, so we have communism. Every. Like the milkman makes milk for everybody.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: All the milkmen make milk for everybody. And it's evenly distributed according to how many people need the milk.
Jack: All the houses are distributed evenly, all the fishermen fish for everybody, all the bread maker, all the bakers bake for everybody, so on, so forth. So that's an existence without currency. You don't need money to make that work successfully.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You just need a leader who's not s*****. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Cristina: Yes. But like, you want to know if there's other things like that though, other.
Jack: Economies or lack of economies.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: Like what could there be that isn't a capitalistic or communistic? Like, what other thing is there? What are the options? Yeah. Could we think up a way to make stuff function without the fictional number, without bartering and without communism?
Cristina: Because I always go back to bartering, I think. I don't know.
Jack: Right. So my argument would be the two extremes. Right. Capitalism is one. Absolute capitalism. Everything is for sale. Everything could be bought.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Absolute communism. Nothing belongs to anybody. Everything is for everybody. Is barter the middle?
Cristina: I don't know, because I was thinking it'd be its own thing. But then what would be its opposite? If it was in one extreme, what would the opposite be?
Jack: The opposite of trading the goods is not trading the goods. So it could be capitalism, but the opposite of capitalism is communism.
Cristina: Is that a barter system in a way?
Jack: Communism, there's no barter system. You make it for everybody, regardless of whether the person is giving you something back. Everybody makes everything for everyone. So you're always going to have what you need.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay, so it's like the barter system that works.
Jack: The question is, which communistic society does purely communistic functions?
Cristina: No, I guess. I don't know. But it just. It makes that idea work, though.
Jack: The idea works. Yes, the idea totally works.
Cristina: Because bartering, the idea doesn't work that well. Once people become greedy and stuff.
Jack: Yes. Once there's too many people and I can't and I don't need your s***, you're f*****.
Cristina: Yeah, but when you think of it that other way.
Jack: On the flip side. On the flip side. Well, no, if the problem is you can't. You cannot. You cannot. It needs. Bartering only works in a society that has one of everything by default. You need. It needs to be one of everything. You can only have one milk family. You cannot have a bunch of milkman. It can't work. But how many jobs before you run out of s*** that everybody needs? Right. In a barter society, everybody must need everything from everybody else. Unless you need to go on a trade hunt.
Cristina: That's why that doesn't work. So that doesn't work, but that doesn't say that communist doesn't work as an idea.
Jack: Well, that's not bartering.
Cristina: That's not bartering. That's not bartering. But it makes. It's so similar.
Jack: How is it similar to bartering? There's nothing similar about it.
Cristina: You're not making money off of anything you're doing.
Jack: Yes, but you're trading the goods.
Cristina: You're trading the goods.
Jack: Both barter and capitalism is a trade, while communism is not a trade.
Cristina: You're not trading.
Jack: So within the construct of trading, the opposite of capitalism is the barter system. Okay, but if we're comparing the concept of trading itself, the opposite would be you own nothing to trade the. It's communism because. Okay, you're thinking, I'm trading you the fish.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Well, no, you don't own the fishing rod. You don't own the fishing boat. You work getting the fish. You don't own those fish. You're fishing for everybody. You know how to fish. That's what you offer.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You're a. Oh, no.
Cristina: Okay, yeah.
Jack: You're a w****.
Cristina: Doing it for everyone.
Jack: Yes. You whoring your nothing, though. Well, no, no, no, no. In the case of cap. In the case of communism, yes. You're whoring in order to be included in the society. So it's for everything. It's not for one thing. You're hoarding for all the things I need. The milk, the bread. If something breaks, I can't just ask if I'm not giving anything. But if something breaks, I can ask the. The construction worker to just come and fix it. And he just comes and fix it because he's the construction worker. That's what he does. So everybody whores there. Like, the construction worker has to go fix the milkman's f****** broken thing. Because I say no, then I'm going to be kicked out of society. And what about when I need milk?
Cristina: Oh, no. Okay. Oh, my gosh. So much whoring around.
Jack: Okay, so that's whoring. That's whoring for sure. Capitalism is whoring. The barter system is the only one that isn't whoring yourself out.
Cristina: But it doesn't work.
Jack: But it doesn't work. Only if you have a really small society and you can. You can have a society so small that everybody's job matters, but you need to develop the society in such a way that everybody's job is one.
Cristina: I don't know. Like, how would you even. Like in a places that exist. You can't do that.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: You all have to agree as a society.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: You have to live in a city like, that's.
Jack: No, that it could never. That's what I'm saying. It has to be small. Has to be small. Location. Yeah, that's. It has to be a town, a small town where you can successfully have one of everything.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Like, so you. There's one landscaper, there's one construction workers, one baker, there's one brewer, there's one grocery store. There's one. You know, has to be that there's. The grocery store can't compete with the supermarket and the supermarket. Like, one of those things has to be real. The other can't be because they're selling the same thing or they can't sell the same things.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But also, you couldn't have that. There couldn't be such a thing as a grocery store in the barter system, because what are you trading to get the things that are in your store that you're selling? The campy stores, everybody provides a service.
Cristina: So there's like a fair or something?
Jack: No, no, you just. Everybody has to know each other too. Like, I have to know who the Landscaper is if I have a lawn.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I'm gonna tell him, yo, my lawn or your the landscaper. You don't tell the landscaper s***. The landscaper just knows to cut your lawn.
Cristina: Yeah. Everyone has a schedule where they're gonna have to be.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So for that job, deliver my milk route or whatever.
Jack: Yes, exactly. He's just gonna deliver milk to everybody who said they drink milk. Y gets a list of people and then he has that list. The end. Nothing else.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I make the milk. Or maybe he doesn't even make the milk. He's the delivery guy. I get milk. Well, my import into the city is town. Wait, we're trying to make barter work. I was thinking communism almost, because you. So there can't be a delivery guy. There can't be a delivery guy because you're trading your ability to deliver.
Cristina: I guess. I don't know.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: It's hard.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: How many jobs are we losing just to make this work?
Jack: Just to make it work? So we have the delivery guy. How do we incorporate?
Cristina: These are jobs that don't make sense to have year round, but you still need them to exist.
Jack: Yeah. So that person must have more than one skill. But we have the delivery guy. We have the milk guy and delivery guy. How do they trade? So I will deliver your milk so you can keep making milk. I sold you. I sold you my time. I traded you my time. So that's how I get the milk. But the delivery guy probably delivers. No, because there has to be many delivery guys.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Right. So I deliver for the milk guy. And because I deliver, there's a lot of delivery guys.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: But there's delivery guys for every product thing.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It could be part of the family. Right. So the family makes the money or not the money. The family makes the milk. One son delivers one person milk. The cows, you know, whatever it needs to happen.
Cristina: A few cows, there's got to be.
Jack: I mean, enough cows to give everybody milk.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Who wants milk? But then the same thing happens for the baker. The baking family needs to bake. For everybody who eats bread, the baking.
Cristina: Family needs to get milk.
Jack: Oh, no, see, that's communism. You just. You just need enough for the demand. Anybody who has something to trade.
Cristina: But you need to know. I don't know.
Jack: I don't know. Because the problem is. The problem is it immediately starts to look like communism. If you're making enough for everybody. Yes, because that is communism. Everybody's just making for everybody and no one.
Cristina: This is closer to capitalism. So how is this?
Jack: I think it's the middle. I think it's the middle. I think the middle point of communism and capitalism is the barter system.
Cristina: Okay. Because every time we're talking about it, it's turning into capitalism.
Jack: Yeah, yeah.
Cristina: Because I'm not capitalist communism.
Jack: Yeah. So I'm thinking like the milkman. Milk makes milk for everybody. But that's cap. That's communism. Yes, that's communism. 100%. Because you wouldn't make milk for you. You're gonna make.
Cristina: You're just gonna make milk.
Jack: You're just gonna make milk, and people are gonna come and trade milk. And the less milk you have, the more things you have to give you four, because it's higher demand.
Cristina: There you go. Yes.
Jack: The end solved it. The end. And this applies to everybody. I open my day, I make a bunch of bread. The first bread sold are the cheapest breads. But as the day goes by, every loaf is worth a little more.
Cristina: Man, it sucks. It kind of sucks. And then you want capitalism because then, you know, at least when I get to the store, there will be bread.
Jack: And it'll be the same. I can tell you how much it is before. Before I get there. Because it's always the same price.
Cristina: Yes. Like, I don't have time for this.
Jack: The bar. Because you got to know the bar. The guy. You got to know the guy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like, the prices vary, Right. So if you're not a regular shopper, then the price of the bread is higher the later you come because there's less bread to sell. But if he's a regular guy who sells it regularly or trades it regularly to you, you brought your thing and he wants your milk. The bread man wants your milk. You can't just be like, well, today it's worth 3 milks. It's like, no, that. Then I'm not gonna give you a wait till tomorrow s***, But I need the milk today. So I gotta sell that bread for one milk.
Cristina: Mm. Three milks.
Jack: No, because he's not gonna give you three milks for that f****** bread. Usually it's one milk. Okay, so we not in agreement. You're trying to rob me right now and f*** your s***. Maybe I'll just stop drinking milk altogether. You b******. You know, so then you kind of have to. There's still a average you have to get to because people talk. Why are you selling that to him for this? If he gives me for that and you're over here robbing me for this. That doesn't make sense. If we Were to do the exchange and one fish to one milk. But I give him one bread for one fish. Why the f*** do I have to give you milk?
Cristina: Is very difficult, though. Like, if we're trying to do this today, then there's got to be, like, there's cow milk, but then there's the almond milk, and then there's the soy milk and the oats milk.
Jack: Yeah, but these are all people who are doing.
Cristina: Yes, yes. I guess that's a lot of jobs for just milk.
Jack: Yeah, this is what I'm saying. There's enough jobs like the guy who does the lawn now out of the capital. Because if it's cap, if it's communism, then he would say, I will. I have a list of everybody who has lawn, and I just go and cut everybody's lawn. But not communism. This is the barter system I'm trading. Cutting your lawn. So I only cut the. The lawn of people who give me things I need.
Cristina: Okay, whatever you need. Okay. But if someone needs you to do it and you don't need what they.
Jack: Have, so you just trade chain. That's the way you got to do it. You got to end up with something.
Cristina: The trade chain sucks.
Jack: The trade chain sucks. But this eliminates money, I guess. It eliminates money. It's a. It's playing animal crossing.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You got to go do this thing, get the thing, take it to the guys can take the thing, give me this thing, and then I got to go do thing, and so on and so forth.
Cristina: So much work. That's too much work.
Jack: But that was society. And also it just gives you crap to do that. You know, society is all the thing.
Cristina: You'Re trying to get rid of.
Jack: You can easily sell it because the trade chain. That's why you can easily sell it because somebody needs a f****** milk.
Cristina: Yes. I guess I'm thinking, like, if you're. You don't have a family helping you out, you're all by yourself, and then you got to run all these errands to do this one thing for that guy. But you have so much things on your own list of what you need.
Jack: Well, no, no, no, no. You're overthinking it Vastly. Hey, Timmy from the bread family, your dad said that I need to. That he needs this. I'm gonna give your family an extra milk if you can get your dad the thing. So here's the milk you're using to pay go trade the thing, the thing to the thing, the thing. Here's the list. Bring this to your dad and Your dad's gonna. Because everybody knows each other. That's fine. Timmy could just run a bunch of errands, bring his dad. The thing that is all happy.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Your own son could do it. If you're alone, you could give some family milk. Somebody has somebody who's just not. A little more freedom.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And they could do the thing and you paid them with your product and you still got the thing and you didn't break any consistency.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Fakeness disappeared. It's still barter, but you're still trading things. The trade chain isn't you. At the same time that you're also milking the cows.
Cristina: That sucks. Okay. Okay.
Jack: There's a way around it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We can make barter work.
Cristina: We gotta. Because that would suck.
Jack: But communism kind of kicks a** if it wasn't for corruption. All the lawn cutters cut all the lawn. All the construction workers built everything. That's. Communism is the barter system for a city.
Cristina: It works if also if the people actually want to do those jobs and they're not just chosen to do those jobs.
Jack: Yeah, anybody who wants to do the jobs, for sure. But also, like, there can't be a billion lawn cutters if there aren't a billion lawns, you know, it doesn't make any sense. There has to be limited space for s***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's only so many lawns, but people.
Cristina: Go apply to these things.
Jack: Yeah, for sure. Like everything else, you could choose a path. You could choose something as close as possible, maybe even land at the exact thing. But there's only so many slots of everything because we can calculate what everybody needs.
Cristina: Yeah. You know who's doing the math? I guess you're doing math. I don't.
Jack: Well, no, we know how many people there are, and then we choose this. Communism is easy, bro. So we have, you know, a room per person. Except married couples, they get one. And you give everybody an exact amount of food. So you estimate how much food it takes to sustain a person in health. No extra. You calculate the people first. And then after you've calculated all the individuals in the house, a little over the top. Unless you're, you know, having a hard time as a society. But the idea would be that you're not having a hard time as a society because you've organized this in such a way that there's enough production, assuming it's working. You give everybody the right amount of food and then a little extra so they can, you know, indulge occasionally.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Utilities paid for. The apartment is paid for. Because I'M not paid for. Nothing is money. Everybody works. So the jobs, everybody's given a car. Right. So depending on how far your job is as well. Right. So if your job is real close to home, because also, you know, maybe.
Cristina: This will be happening in the town though.
Jack: No, this is a city. This is communism.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: This is the government owns everything and is giving it to everybody.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah. And so if you've been assigned to do your job, but like, for example, you want to be the landscaper and you are given, you finally get in the job. But the area you live in doesn't have too many lawns and there's already enough landscapers covering it. Either those landscapers get moved to cover areas closer to them, or you get given a car so that you can get to areas where more landscapers are needed.
Cristina: Okay, that makes sense.
Jack: And you're given the amount of gas you need for that because your area should have, like, where you live should have grocery stores and things so you can wonk instead of wasting resources and crapping up.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Everyone wants a car, but not everybody needs a car. What do you need a car for? You're intoxify. The cars are necessity. It's communism. What you need is what you get. All the extra stuff you don't need.
Cristina: Like cars.
Jack: Yeah, cars are extra stuff. Again, if you live in a place that's trying to be well placed, there should be stores. You could go get the things you need.
Cristina: Yeah, this should.
Jack: What do you need a car for if everything is provided?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Go to the park. There should be a park. You can't live somewhere where there's no park. They would have the construction worker go make you a park.
Cristina: Good.
Jack: You know, everything should be in proximity so that everything is as efficient as possible. And again, you got the landscaping job. Well, then a landscaper that commutes to your town probably no longer needs to commute because you're the landscaper in town now. You're one of the landscapers who can provide for your town.
Cristina: If you don't get that left landscaping job and you have no other, you're.
Jack: Gonna be given a purpose. You will have a job. It's not talent. There's things you could do that are just routine based that you need no skill for.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You know, and you can learn anything.
Cristina: Mm. I guess so. Yeah. That's. Yeah.
Jack: Capitalism is an overpowered one. If it wasn't for the corrupt nature of leaders in the first place, it would be absolutely fine. But a president.
Cristina: Yeah. And there's no such thing. As a good leader, though.
Jack: Nah. People get corrupted the moment they get power.
Cristina: Yes, yes. Like, man, just like. There's no good example. I mean, there are good leaders I guess, out there. Just so few.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, no, here's the problem. You can't please all the people all the time.
Cristina: Okay. Yes.
Jack: Every leader is gonna have something you don't agree with. And you're gonna be like, he's a bad leader. But there's never. It's impossible for. He's just a person.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: How is he gonna have full agreement with everything you believe in? But people expect that. It doesn't make any sense.
Cristina: But sometimes I question the followers too. Like how?
Jack: Yeah. Let's assure you of one thing. The leader is always more qualified.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The followers are idiots. Even the followers of good leaders, they're just stupid people. They collectively made the choice. Individually is a bunch of dumbasses.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's what happens in most cases, I.
Cristina: Guess, because there's some, I guess followers that are. I don't know. I guess I'm just thinking about like different cults and stuff, like. Yeah, how did you buy into that?
Jack: Yeah, there's. That's a big, like cults in general confused me, but I guess people just need something to believe in.
Cristina: Yes, but you still just wonder, like how.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Was he doing anything magical?
Jack: No, usually it's a really charismatic leader.
Cristina: Yeah, that's really good enough.
Jack: Yes. Now the question is the cults function with like a barter system.
Cristina: I think they give him everything.
Jack: Right. Okay, so it's communism.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because he may, like, if you live on a compound, he needs you alive.
Cristina: Yes, for sure. But on the bare minimum.
Jack: Yeah. It's communism with a dictator.
Cristina: Yeah. Except you guys are happy about it.
Jack: Then again, we're talking about reclusive cults, not large, massive cults like Catholicism.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You know that's a large scale cult.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Not everybody who goes to church pays the church.
Cristina: No, some people do and give them a lot, I guess because they got a lot.
Jack: Yeah, some people do give a lot. Like a. Like a bunch. Some people donate ginormous millions to the church.
Cristina: Yes. And to just radio stations and stuff. Like random stuff. We just give away money. I don't understand how anything works. Yeah, like people complain about not having money and then people wasting it on so many subscriptions and things like that. Like. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, but like these charismatic leaders from cults, they bring people in, just, you know, they got the gift of gab. They worded. They're well worded. They say relatable things. They bring people in, they get in their emotions. There's. Again, we've had this discussion before, but there could be an air of hypnosis to some of them.
Cristina: There has to be. There has.
Jack: Not all of them. I'm sure some of them are just cur. Most of them are just charismatic people.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And they can sell f****** anything to anyone.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: They sell a bunch of crap to random people, and people believe it, and then they go ahead and follow. Great. Sweet. Fantastic. Some might have an air of hypnosis. Not just all I know. Not still by vast amount. Like, way minority.
Cristina: Boo. Yeah.
Jack: Definitely not a nice amount. Usually dumb leaders with dumber followers.
Cristina: Yes. Okay, that makes sense.
Jack: Yeah, that's usually Occam's razor. What's the most likely possibility? Most people probably aren't so clever. They've understood hypnotic word manipulation.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's just guys. Guys who say random s*** and people.
Cristina: Are like, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Jack: Yeah, I'll buy that. That makes sense. Here, take my money. Yeah, take my money. Take all the. All my money. And you gonna. The aliens are gonna come for fact, right? And, like, look, even in the back of these people's minds, they probably know it's bullshit, but it's like, what the f***? Who cares?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's something to believe in.
Cristina: Yes. And they want to believe Jesus is up there making us Mansion.
Jack: It's the idea of religion. Right. You have to agree.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which again, we've also talked about this. Maybe the point of religion is just to agree forcefully. And maybe you convince yourself that it's not bleak darkness after you die.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Maybe that's just more hopeful.
Cristina: It's definitely more hopeful.
Jack: And, yeah, like, dude, I'll f****** kill your firstborn now. If your daughter's raped, you can sell her. I'll shoot fire and kill the gays. Like, whatever, dude. But like, absolute blackness. Yeah. Like, all of that sounds better than absolute blackness.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: You know, anything compared to nothingness is like, yeah, he's a ruthless monster who takes life indiscriminately, wants to be worshipped, wants sacrifices, kill firstborn, drowns the entire planet and has suggestible homosexual tones while punishing those very homosexuals that follow the logic. But, like, nothingness. Nah, I follow all this f***** up s***.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Sounds way better.
Cristina: So I guess anything sounds better than nothing.
Jack: Yeah. Which is exactly. You don't really need much.
Cristina: You don't need much.
Jack: It's like, look, I hate mainstream s***, bruh. My whole thing is I don't like mainstream s***, bruh. But like nothing. That sucks. So yeah, I'm gonna go follow this f****** cult.
Cristina: Yeah. Cause whatever. Why? There's so many of them.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: There has to be plethora, many an.
Jack: Infinite amount of cults.
Cristina: Yes. Especially with the Internet. What?
Jack: Yeah, I mean a million billion. Of course. Because people get together at a distance.
Cristina: Exactly. Worshiping anything.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: You'll find people worshiping probably. What is it those little pony people? I mean, I don't. My Little Pony. Yes. They could be worshiping her or Sonic similar. Sonic has a cult around.
Jack: I'm sure. I'm sure there's a cult for everything.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I mean, look, celebrity stalking is a cult.
Cristina: That is. Yeah.
Jack: What is it? The leader is a celebrity and then there's a second hand leader who's the person who leads the literal group that's obsessed with the person. And so it's like the Messiah. The messiah is the celebrity and the cult leader is whoever the leader is. And they're just the people of like minds who come together and talk and obsess over their God, Justin Bieber.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: Like, oh my God, he's so pretty and perfect and like I pray everything goes great for him tonight and I get all the things that have to do with them and like I tell everybody about how great Justin Bieber is and like I, I have, I get together with a bunch of friends and then we say all the words. He says he wrote a bunch of words and we get together and we say all the words to a picture of him. Yeah. We listen to his music and we, we stare at him on the Internet and it's like, okay, this is a cult.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: They live a weird. It's not a danger. I mean, one of them is eventually gonna pop them. But do you know, it's not yet. It's just peaceful. It's just there's no harm being done.
Cristina: Unless they start like slacking him in real life.
Jack: I wonder what that's about. Like, why do you gotta kill your idol? Just because I'm so obsessed with you, I'm gonna murder you. What?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I don't. The logic escapes the crap out of me, so. I love the music so much. I love Justin Bieber's music so much. If he's dead, I don't get his music. That's how, that's how I conclude. That's how I would conclude. If he's dead, no more music. I can't enjoy it anymore.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Now I love Justin Bieber. He's so perfect. I Love all his music. I'm gonna f****** kill him. It's like, okay, but then no more music. I can't love him anymore. He's f****** dead. That doesn't make sense.
Cristina: I don't know. I don't know why it happens. It's weird. They come up with the reasons to kill the person. I'm guessing.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: I don't know how Justin Bieber changed. He's gotta die now.
Jack: Yeah. You're not who you used to be. And I gotta preserve the identity of who you were.
Cristina: Yes, that's how it works.
Jack: You're not my Little Mermaid. I guess it's the same argument, right? You're not my Little Mermaid.
Cristina: You're not my Little Mermaid. Yes.
Jack: Whoa. So you're not my Justice Bieber. But then. So stop listening to his f****** music.
Cristina: Nah, nah, it's. It's simpler if he just dies.
Jack: I know, but I can picture some scenarios. But these are actual crazy people, right? So you hear his music a lot and you're thinking you're crazy. So he's singing about you. He's in love with you, and you're delusional. You swear he's singing about you and then he drops a name and it's not your name. You were already deep, balls deep in that delusion. So he's f****** with someone else.
Cristina: Oh, my God.
Jack: He was writing these songs about me, and now he's writing these songs about this. He's a traitor. He betrayed my love. Doesn't he remember all the good times? And so. No, this is disrespectful. He's gonna see what's coming to him.
Cristina: That's horrifying.
Jack: That's crazy though, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That twisted thought. It's you. You trapped in the delusion first, and then the other shoe drops of something weird that triggers them.
Cristina: I'm just thinking, like love songs, like all the love songs you think are for you. But then once he just stops singing love songs and he's singing about his life, you're like, what? He doesn't care about me anymore? And then you do the thing.
Jack: That works too. Yeah, but you have to be in a delusion ahead of time. And then something happens and you're like, oh, oh, I gotta. I gotta do this.
Cristina: This is different.
Jack: So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: He's changed. I don't know what it could it be. I don't know. That has to be.
Jack: But then why didn't. Did the Doctor off Michael Jackson? Did the doctor do it intentionally? He's like, these love songs were about me and then you started, bro. No, about who the is. Billie Jean.
Cristina: Sure is just a simple mistake. It's possible, right?
Jack: Yeah. It's probably just negligence. That's most medical issues.
Cristina: Michael Jackson's ghost haunted him and then he did it. And then Michael Jackson died and then his ghost came alive.
Jack: His ghost traveled back in time?
Cristina: Yes, his ghost traveled back in time, then the doctor.
Jack: That then resulted in his death. So he's only dead because he haunted the doctor that f***** up.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: He's dead in a loop.
Cristina: He's dead in the loop. I wonder what he's trying to do. Maybe he's trying to get the doctors to save him.
Jack: Fair enough. He's trying to stop the loop. Michael Jackson is trying stop the loop in which he continues to die by his own fault.
Cristina: Yes. That's weird.
Jack: Maybe he did stop it as a ghost. But because Final Destination rules and Time Machine rules, you still gotta die. It's just gonna happen differently. So maybe the pills is the least embarrassing way he went.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: Or maybe he's just still trapped. We keep moving straight forward, you know?
Cristina: Yeah, he's still back there.
Jack: We're in the universe where it failed. Yeah, but he's. It's. And it happened to be that. But maybe he's just done it so many times. Like. S***, I tried this and I got hit by a bus. I tried that. I died cuz of some drugs. I did this thing. A crazy fan shot me in the back of the head. And it's all on the same day at the same moment.
Cristina: What? In the same moment?
Jack: Yeah, he's just. It's. It's Russian doll.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: The same f****** moment. You're dying every day, no matter what.
Cristina: What? Okay. Yes. That's exactly what I imagine is happening.
Jack: That's the story. The true story of Michael Jackson.
Cristina: Yes. If you didn't know.
Jack: If you didn't know. Now you know.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's nuts, man. Celebrities. That is such a cult, dude. I don't give a f*** about celebrities. It's so weird.
Cristina: You gotta give them all your stuff. There's no. At least. There's no.
Jack: People do that, dude. They're doing that to celebrities. You buy all the merchandise of all my money and all my money. Bieber. I want your shirts. I want Justin Bieber sneakers. I want Justin Bieber.
Cristina: That was. I don't think his fans sound like that.
Jack: I want all the. All his music. I want. I'm gonna buy his used napkins so I can eat his snot.
Cristina: Oh. Oh. People do that. Too.
Jack: People weird, dude. They got. They need something to believe in. And then he becomes a teenager and pees in a plant and then the world turns on him.
Cristina: He pees on a plant and then.
Jack: They'Re like, you're monster. You're monster.
Cristina: How do you pee on that plant?
Jack: Did they not, like, freak the man? Was Justin Bieber the biggest artist in the world at some point?
Cristina: Maybe. No. I don't know. Pasta.
Jack: Like, who was out at that time?
Cristina: Who was bigger that other boy band?
Jack: One Direction. One Direction bigger than Bieber?
Cristina: I have no idea.
Jack: That's the question, right? Yeah, that's pretty close. And I know that One Direction, not One Direction. Bieber and Miley Cyrus were pretty close in popularity. Yeah. I don't know. I'm thinking Miley Cyrus. Yes. But also, like, it feels like Bieber more.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which means maybe also One Direction more. Even if she was huge.
Cristina: Oh, probably right.
Jack: Like, if it was just all three of them, it'd be Bieber than One Direction and then Miley Cyrus, I think. So who's bigger than Bieber?
Cristina: I don't know. From boys.
Jack: Eminem. I think that's a period of time in which you have the least amount of music.
Cristina: Eminem, you know, he wasn't competing.
Jack: You had way less music in that time. So it's not like a lot of Eminem attention.
Cristina: When was this time?
Jack: Late 2010s. Early 20. No. Yeah. Late 2000s, early 2010s. That's his young, super exaggeratedly famous era. When we start seeing Justin Bieber in.
Cristina: Hot Topics, there any more bands, but that was it. I don't know. What? No, that's One Direction. Okay. Yeah, that's all I can think of.
Jack: Yeah, One Direction. But bands don't matter. What about celebrities like. Like. Like Futures? Drake. Is. Was Drake bigger than Bieber? H***, no. I don't think so.
Cristina: I don't think so. I don't know.
Jack: So. Yeah. I don't know, man. S***'s crazy like that.
Cristina: That he was the most famous person at one point. Musician. I mean.
Jack: I mean, yeah. I think Person is accurate.
Cristina: You think person?
Jack: Yeah, I mean, I guess not like the Pope and the Queen kind of like way up there. Those might be the most famous people ever. Definitely Queen Elizabeth. Because the Pope comes in at random. You know, he got selected as an old guy. We didn't. Like, nobody knew about this f****** Pope until he got made the Pope.
Cristina: But now they're freaking crazy about him, so.
Jack: Yeah, but he's still not the biggest thing in world.
Cristina: The.
Jack: The World. I think that would be the Queen, right?
Cristina: Yes. Yes, it was. It has to be.
Jack: I wonder if the Queen supports different. Like, if her ideology is like, s***, maybe communism works. But you know, she's not gonna say she's not gonna influence the world. But she's like, yeah, no, I know. I know it would work. Or if she's like, no, capitalism is great. Like, where does she land?
Cristina: Personally, I hope she has a diary and we get to read about it.
Jack: We would never in a million years know what that diary says. Really, when she kicks it, it's gonna be hidden, locked away, burned, destroyed, flung into space.
Cristina: No. Well, hopefully someone gets it before. Although they will be killed. It doesn't matter.
Jack: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Cristina: What if they put it on the Internet before they die? They're like, I know I'm gonna about to die, so I have to do this quickly.
Jack: Yeah. Upload button. That'd be nuts.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's whistleblowing territory. Who knows? Maybe it's a die, but they know they're gonna die. Maybe it's a diary that 100% confirms their reptilian.
Cristina: What if they are?
Jack: Can you imagine? It's like it calls out everybody who's in. Like the f******. In. In media's interpretation of the Illuminati. Right? So everybody thinks the Illuminati, evil, dark, secluded, everybody in power. So imagine if the Illuminati was like, this guy goes. He uploads it and there's a list of people in the Illuminati. And, yeah, the Queen and the Pope, obviously. But then there's like, George Clooney. Jay Z is really there. Yeah, we knew it. We knew Beyonce, Eminem. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: But does she mention that they're really lizard people? Because I want to know that. I don't even care. Okay?
Jack: Because Illuminati is reptilian according to society.
Cristina: Okay. But she has to specifically say that they're Reptilians.
Jack: Yeah, Diary. For whatever reason, she's like, here's a list of people who are members of the Illuminati and are also Reptilian.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then also, like, whatever reason, she writes the sources. Oh, so you could, like, confirm this.
Cristina: So how.
Jack: I don't know. It's just provable. It's provable.
Cristina: There's DNA proof that she has in there, too.
Jack: Yeah, she has vials of their blood, whatever.
Cristina: Oh, and then, like, scientists can somehow download that through the Internet.
Jack: No, they can just sample the person and be like, holy. Yes, this DNA is accurate.
Cristina: Well, the Person has to actually agree to that. Why would they agree to that?
Jack: Well, the. The problem with the conspiracy the reveal is holy s***, there's Reptilians. We have to capture these people. If they don't agree because we need to test and find out who's gonna freak out. Like, oh, my God, there's Reptilians living among us. Or maybe we won't give a s***. We'll be like, yeah, they're celebrities, though. We're cool with it. Of course we knew they were always different. Yes, we were always different. It's fine.
Cristina: But maybe they'll be more comfortable living in their skin.
Jack: Yeah, maybe if we find out and then they realize we don't care, they'll be like, wow. No, but then we care if we have to see it and then lose our.
Cristina: We'll be the cockroach people.
Jack: Yeah, dude, we would so. So just start murder. It's X Men type. We gotta get rid of them. Cage them. All the. All this people can't handle the truth.
Cristina: Okay, so then we gotta just pretend that we're cool with it until they reveal themselves.
Jack: Yeah, but why? We. We want to kill.
Cristina: Yes. Well, no, we want to see what it looks like.
Jack: We're gonna freak the f*** out.
Cristina: Yes. But we have to at least pretend.
Jack: Okay, no, this is how we won't freak out. They need to show us, but not in public. They need to desensitize us to it by not interacting with us. But like, maybe for a year, being like, oh, yeah, we're Reptilians or whatever. And like, we see things with them as them. Their reptilian selves, but not in person. Movies and things like that. To desensitize us to it. So that in a year when I do see, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's kind of weird in person. But like, I. I knew, you know, they gotta make it. It can't just be like, here's a billion people standing in this giant stadium that I'm playing. I'm Jay Z. I'm rapping my song. And then at the end of my song, I just rip off my face. And now there's a f****** huge humanoid Reptilian.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The panic that would cause is nuts.
Cristina: That's amazing.
Jack: He just drops the mic and walks off reptile style. What?
Cristina: And everyone freaks out. Yeah, there's no way.
Jack: There's no way he gets murdered that night. He doesn't make it. You can't be a Reptilian.
Cristina: But if you heard about. Why would you kill him?
Jack: That's why you gotta expose people. You just gotta expose people little by little so they first get adjusted to the fact that you're a Reptilian.
Cristina: Okay. And then like, ah, I understand. Even though I heard you were.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, now I see. And it's like, okay, one plus one equals two. I dig it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Instead of just, oh my God, now he's reptilian. You know, that's what's gonna happen. He was a human. Oh my God, he's reptil up till in the end.
Cristina: Okay, but aren't people gonna freak out when they first hear.
Jack: Yes, but he's not gonna be in reach. He's gonna. It's all gonna be at a distance. There's gonna be a million Jay Z music videos of him as his reptile.
Cristina: Well, I hope the Queen also has photos of Reptilians in her diary.
Jack: Yes. Oh, perfect.
Cristina: It doesn't even have to say who these Reptilians are. I mean, maybe, maybe it does. I don't know.
Jack: It will.
Cristina: Doesn't matter.
Jack: And it'll show photos because she's the queen of the Reptilians too.
Cristina: She's a queen of the Reptilians as well.
Jack: Yeah, she's the queen of everybody.
Cristina: Oh, wow.
Jack: She rules Earth. Okay, anyways, anyways, we're running out of time. Look, guys, the moral of the story is the Queen is a Reptilian and we need to steal her diary. And communism is just a city wide version of the barter system. And the barter system is sort of kind of like the opposite of communist of capitalism, but so is communism in some kind of weird way. And yeah, for communism you sacrifice your life and usually leaders suck. All things that you could find in previous episodes, of course, of which there are many. And you can find all those episodes on the official website greathoughts.info or on Apple podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.
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Jack: Yes, word of mouth. It's overpowered and people need to know about the show where we talk about the important pressing issues, like the Queen's Notebook, that journal, I suppose that reveals a list of Reptilians in list form as though she knew we were gonna read it.
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Jack: Bye. Look, man, there's got to be something to it. I'm telling you, there's something behind these windows. Windmill. He knows something we don't.
Cristina: He thinks that they cause cancer and.
Jack: They'Re killing the birds.
Cristina: They're killing.
Jack: A long time ago, we heard the girl goes, they're killing the birds.
Cristina: They're killing the birds, but they're not killing a lot of birds.
Jack: How many birds are they really killing? The speed that a windmill moves, a bird could dodge the out of that.
Cristina: Well, I'm sure they do die from windmills. Just like, not a crazy number.
Jack: Like, how dumb is the. Like the bird who gets hit by the windmill kind of had it coming.
Cristina: Yes, it probably did. It probably did. But I'm sure it kills birds. I just don't think it causes cancer. Definitely.
Jack: That's super badass. And apparently they like last 10 years and rust away immediately and then you just abandon windmill. Just.
Cristina: I thought he was like, you had to move the windmill somewhere else. Like, what?
Jack: So no, no, they just rust in this. Within 10 years, apparently.
Cristina: Oh, yes, yes.
Jack: The super crappy windmill material. We've somehow. We're in the age of cell phones that are entire smart humans in our pocket and we can't figure out smart windmill technology. Yes, our phones, their phone, like the Nokia from like 20 years ago is still like fully good. Hit that s*** with you, shoot it and the bullet would just bounce back and hit you. But windmills, Windmills f*****. They just fall apart.
Cristina: Rust.
Jack: 10 years.
Cristina: 10 years. Have you ever heard of that? I don't know.
Jack: No. But this man is just spilling woke truths.
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: How are we gonna argue the windmills? We gotta look into the windmills. There has to be some way to twist this into a reality. This is.
Cristina: I don't think so.
Jack: I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find out the windmill conspiracy.
Cristina: I hope so.
Jack: I hope figure out. And if I have to connect all the loosest dots in the world. Yes.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Yes. I could do it right now. In fact, I'm a guarantee you that there's going to be an episode about the windmills causing a problem. But I'll tell you right now how they cause a problem.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.
