Rambling 143: Commercialistic Crap Products
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Do pharmaceutic companies avoid creating cures? Are commercial products intentionally created with a shorter life expectancy than is possible in order to promote return business? Is capitalism to blame for intentional restraint for quality production? Is Commercialism and Individualism destroying health and education? Or are the hosts just secret communists? Find out this episode!
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Topics Discussed:
- Drug Dens
- Cancer Cure
- STDs
- Playstatio vs Xbox
- Capitalism
- Quality Technology
- Remedy vs Cure
- Wealth vs Riches
- Vaccines
- Facebook Conspiracy Theories
- Confirmation Bias
- Communism
- Military Funding
- Pharmaceutical Companies
- Business Competition
- Patient vs Customer
- Political Checks and Balances
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody, grab them gently by the hand and pull them forcefully after you've grabbed them gently by the hand into the den where the podcast is already playing, and there's a bunch of drug addicts doing nothing but listening to this podcast in the middle of them sticking syringes with God knows what serums into their veins. You pull this person into that place, horrified, terrified for their lives, while this is playing in the background, and you make sure they listen to this show.
Cristina: Are you also horrified and terrified?
Jack: Why would you go somewhere you're horrified and terrified of?
Cristina: Oh, I thought it was like you went into the den, but you didn't know what you were going to see in the den either.
Jack: I mean, then what, you just happened to, like, you chase the sound of the podcast? No, because you needed to already know the podcast is playing, which means you know the place.
Cristina: Like, Mary, you just put the podcast there, walked away. When you came back with the other person, then you're both kind of horrified about what you found.
Jack: That's weird. So you just came in a bunch of. In that short time, a bunch of f****** heroin users and like, meth. Liquefied meth users or whatever showed up. Can you imagine? That'd be f****** crazy.
Cristina: Yes. But this person. Okay, so you brought this person to the den with drug addicts. Are you also one.
Jack: I don't know. I don't know what these people do in their personal lives. Maybe. Maybe they're just cool with drug addicts. Yeah, it is completely possible that that's a scenario taking place right now. Just a bunch of our listeners are casually okay with, like, heroin addicts. They just live in house, or not even live in houses with them, but they just. They, for whatever reason, know heroin addicts. I don't know. They, for whatever reason, know about drug dens, drug dens that they're familiar with enough to know that the show is.
Cristina: Playing there in audit drug dens. In.
Jack: In this particular drug den that they went to.
Cristina: Well, how many listeners do we have so that. That still feels like a lot.
Jack: A lot of people going to drug dens.
Cristina: Yeah. Unless they're all going to the same ones.
Jack: All our listeners are drug users.
Cristina: Are they not all doing this together?
Jack: No, there's one. One of them.
Cristina: One of them, one of them.
Jack: Usually there's an array of people doing an array of things.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But I pick one person who's doing something specific and I talk about them. Like the woodsman.
Cristina: Okay. Oh, so it's not every listener.
Jack: Yeah. There isn't like a fuckton of woodsmen. There was a woodsman.
Cristina: Oh, I imagine it was every.
Jack: So to make this totally clear, all our listeners are cancer. Having woodsmen who do drugs in drug.
Cristina: Density and also do all these other things. You've always mentioned every single thing. I thought you were like. That's why I didn't understand why they'd come back to listen, because I thought. Oh. Or unless it was the person they. The next person that they got to listen, they're the ones going through it now. Is that what's happening?
Jack: I don't know if they listened again. I guess they have to be a committed listener after the first time listening.
Cristina: No, I mean like the person that they're. They forced to listen.
Jack: Yeah. They have to become a committed listener in order for that to happen. So they have to listen to the next episode in order to hear being told to find somebody else to listen.
Cristina: Oh, okay. But it's different people. Okay. That makes more sense.
Jack: The way humans work.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: How there's this human and then, wait for it, there's that human. Whoa.
Cristina: But they're all doing something similar either way, even if just one at a time.
Jack: The only thing they have in common.
Cristina: Is the podcast and that they're forcing someone to listen to it.
Jack: I hope.
Cristina: You hope? Yeah.
Jack: I don't know that for a fact.
Cristina: Yeah. But then the stories that you're talking about them are that. Is that really happening or is that what you're hoping they will do?
Jack: No, there's at least one person. There's so many people. There's at least one person going through what I'm talking about.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Bare minimum, there's one person doing it.
Cristina: What? Okay.
Jack: That's how it goes.
Cristina: Yeah, that's how it goes. Okay. But they're all dying from cancer.
Jack: Yeah. Anybody who listens by default gets cancer. There's nothing we could do about that.
Cristina: Oh, okay. That makes sense.
Jack: And even if we could, it removes the incentive.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like you. You don't want to die in vain. You don't want to just have cancer. Because you listen to the show now. You need to spread that cancer out.
Cristina: Hi.
Jack: Because otherwise you got cancer for no reason. There must be a purpose to your life.
Cristina: And the purpose is to give someone else cancer.
Jack: No, it's to get somebody else to listen. They'll just catch cancer because then the rules.
Cristina: Okay, so they're. They're not even doing it to get the other person cancer, even though they know the other person is going to get cancer.
Jack: No, they're just trying to get the other person to listen to a show they love that happen to give them cancer.
Cristina: They still love us.
Jack: The content is superior to the outcome.
Cristina: Oh, wow. Okay. And we gave them a purpose.
Jack: We gave them a purpose, which was get more listeners.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: It's the cult.
Cristina: It is a cult.
Jack: It is a cult.
Cristina: It's so wrong, though, why these are giving them cancer.
Jack: They're cool with it.
Cristina: We can't just give them more cancer, right?
Jack: No, they just. I mean, unless somebody has, like, super cancer.
Cristina: I don't know. Maybe one of them has super cancer.
Jack: The most cancer y cancer of them all.
Cristina: Different types of cancers. Can one person have different types at one time?
Jack: I'm sure that's a thing that could happen in, like, the real world.
Cristina: Like, that must be super rare, though. But one of our listeners might have multiple.
Jack: Yeah, somebody might have several kinds of cancer. I'm sure there's somebody with, like, lung cancer that also has, like, skin cancer.
Cristina: Yes. That's horrible.
Jack: Has to be possible.
Cristina: It has to be. Right? Right. Unless cancer is picky and it's like, you can only have one.
Jack: It's weird because, like, cancer is f*****, though, because, like, we can't do. I think there's a cure for cancer, right? There would have to be.
Cristina: Why does there have to be?
Jack: Because enough money thrown at anything solves any problem. And we don't have an incentive to stop cancer because in the pharmaceutical companies run out of business because that's one of the big money makers.
Cristina: But it's not the biggest money maker.
Jack: Probably.
Cristina: Probably about the flu. Isn't that super big?
Jack: No, it's just easy to make a lot of s*** for.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Like in reality, like, cancer is one of the big kahunas. Cancer, aids, all these f****** things that are, like, easy to stop.
Cristina: Think AIDS is easy to stop.
Jack: AIDS is not even that problematic. There's so much s*** that can hold you alive for quite some time but.
Cristina: Not get rid of it.
Jack: But not get rid of it. You know what's the craziest One that. It's always weird to me. Herpes.
Cristina: Why is that? Because it's not, like, lethal, but it could become lethal.
Jack: I guess, maybe.
Cristina: Why? What's the big deal? Like, I know it's what it is.
Jack: Sores. You get sores. Okay. How horrible. And, like, only if you have an outbreak. Yeah, but we equate herpes to aids. AIDS kills the inside of your body and you catch anything, you die. Herpes. Oh, I itch like, a little. If I have an outbreak, maybe.
Cristina: Yeah. But why are people freaked out about herpes?
Jack: I don't know. Because it has STD the same way the f****** AIDS does. They're both STDs.
Cristina: Oh, so we just lump them all together.
Jack: Yeah, we're like, STDs are all together. You can literally get rid of chlamydia forever. You can just not have chlamydia after you had chlamydia.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: That's a thing you could just eradicate in your body. But we're like std.
Cristina: Oh, no. Oh, okay.
Jack: It's weird.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: That's strange, right?
Cristina: Yeah. I didn't realize that. It is just sores.
Jack: It is just sores. It's so f****** strange. I think people are just scared that it's the end of their sex life and so they make a giant big deal about it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which is like maybe juice protection, though.
Cristina: Yeah. Or just like take breaks in sex, you know, like until the sore goes away. Because isn't that the thing with it? It comes and goes.
Jack: You can still spread it.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: Although you have no source.
Cristina: Really. Yeah. Oh, I thought it had to be there.
Jack: Yeah. It's less likely, but it's so possible. It's just use protection. I gotta use a condom for the rest of my life. Boohoo, loser. The.
Cristina: Well, that's how you would avoid in the first place.
Jack: Yeah. That's how you would have dodged this bullet to begin with. And by not dodging the bullet, now you're obligated to do the thing.
Cristina: That's so crazy.
Jack: Yeah, it's crazy. It's. So many of these f****** things are like that. Really? Really? Aids, hiv. That's it, aids.
Cristina: Wait, one doesn't one become the other.
Jack: HIV could become aids. Yeah, I'm sure you can just catch AIDS right out though, right? Like you could catch hiv. Or you could just get like flat out AIDS in one shot. No, no, you need to get hiv.
Cristina: I don't know. I. I always thought it was one, then came the other. But I don't know if you could.
Jack: Just get AIDS because Magic Johnson had hiv. Did he cure HIV before it became aids?
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: Could you cure HIV and not aids? And so we make a big deal about HIV the way we do like f****** chlamydia and herpes. When in reality it's not.
Cristina: Maybe. I don't know. There's so many things, there's so many STDs.
Jack: But here's the problem. Pharmaceutical companies have no need to eradicate these things. It would not be beneficial.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because preventative medicine prevents return business.
Cristina: So you just put a band aid on it?
Jack: Yeah. If preventative medicine prevents return business, then preventing return business means no money. But you are a business first.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So if you cure the problem, then you don't have that patient anymore. Which that patient is really. What's another name? Customer.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: And you always want customers to come back to the store.
Cristina: That's why light bulbs. I saw that recently about light bulbs that they last a specific amount of time that's calculated. Just because they don't. They need the competition, they need the business. Like if someone was selling from that lasted way longer because they could do it.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: They'd just get all the company. Like there's no competition if someone.
Jack: Yeah. It's a double edged sword. Because if you're the company who made the infinite lasting light bulb, of course it wouldn't last for infinity, but it would last really long. So you can make a light bulb to last 10 years. Right. And everybody else says light bulb lasts six months. Now the problem is everybody's gonna go buy your light bulbs. Yes.
Cristina: But then you won't have business. You won't have business until 10 years.
Jack: Exactly. Every one person that bought isn't coming back for 10 years.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: It's a weird problem to have. Right.
Cristina: Cuz your business and there's no business.
Jack: There'S no business in that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So you need to create crap in order for people to come and buy the crap. But you can't make quality. Really?
Cristina: No. Because then people won't come back to agree upon the quality that's gonna be.
Jack: Yep. You can always beat the competition by going over. But then you're also going to have people showing up less often.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You need to be so well known that you can survive off of word alone.
Cristina: You can do what like the phone companies do. They have, they try to have one thing that's better than all the other phones, but everything else is the same. Like this phone will have the best camera. But everything else sucks as much as every Other phone.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah.
Cristina: Like, they're not that much different iPhones and Androids or anything, but they'll just come with something. Just one thing.
Jack: Which they probably agreed on.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Secretly behind closed doors. Well, this is the thing. We are. You can't. You can't do this.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or we're gonna have this phone. That means you could have one phone that does the same thing. And whatever the most loyal to, they'll buy.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. And that's what we do, too. We just buy the phone. That is what we're most loyal to. I don't know why, but that's what you do. I feel like a lot of people do, especially iPhone people. Just buy.
Jack: Oh, yeah. Because iPhones suck now. We lost jobs and iPhone went down.
Cristina: The drain with it, but it hasn't lost anyone, I think.
Jack: You think? I know a lot of people who went from iPhone to Android.
Cristina: Oh, I do too, actually. And I do know also the same loyal people of iPhone Fair.
Jack: I know about as many. Yeah. I know people who are loyal in the other direction, too, who just don't move from Android.
Cristina: That's true. And they probably will never try anything else but Android. Like, no one's experimental in that way.
Jack: Yeah. It's like PlayStation people will always be PlayStation people and Xbox people will always be Xbox people, even if Xbox is inferior by kind of every margin. Less powerful. Wacker graphics. No f****** exclusives.
Cristina: No games.
Jack: No games. Like, it's all the same s***. All they got going for them right now is that game passing.
Cristina: That game passing. That's pretty good, though, I guess. For now.
Jack: Now, here's a case in which having the product that lasts a really long time is more important because you don't want people repeatedly buying a PlayStation. Because you need to sell games, and if there's a gap in the middle, then you got a problem. So you need a PlayStation that's durable. This is the proof that things can last a really long time.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: These consoles are made to last 10, 20 years.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, that's a thing we could just f****** do. Because they're trying to sell the software, not the hardware. They need you to have the hardware so they can sell you the software.
Cristina: That's interesting. Yeah. So they have to make it durable.
Jack: So they have to make it durable opposite to the light bulb. Like, there's nothing you're adding to that light bulb. No, it's the light bulb they're trying to sell.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So the light bulb needs to expire so that you come back and get another one.
Cristina: Yes. And. But do the systems have to eventually expire?
Jack: No, because the games moved on to the better software.
Cristina: And the better software to the better hardware.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Which one is. Wait, the hardware is the system?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah. And the better hardware. It's getting harder to prove the hardware is better.
Jack: Yes. There was a article explaining how humans capacity to tell graphical graphic difference has stopped since the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
Cristina: Yes. But people really believe that there is.
Jack: Yeah. So the idea is the games themselves. We can tell by looking. Oh, this looks better than that game. Yeah, 100%. But it's because we didn't have the capacity back then. Now that system, through updates reached its peak to the point that it has the capacity to render the same level of graphic that something later does.
Cristina: Like the PlayStation 4.
Jack: Yes. Like the PlayStation 4 is really, really overpowered. But also most of our eyes can't tell most things. It's really up to how the developers are using the technology. They get more clever with it to come up with tricks to make things more believable and move in different ways that convince our mind. But graphic wise, our brains have kind of capped off. Our eyes can only see so much and we've already hit that peak. So it's about how we make the world respond to trick our brains into believing, oh, this is more real than it is.
Cristina: But they're still trying to sell the newer systems on the graphics.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Even if it doesn't matter anymore.
Jack: This is, this is the problem. Right. There are scenarios in which the graphics do matter. So if you have a cutscene and you have a close up of a character.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Well, now that character's face is covering the whole screen. Now you don't have a tiny character that looks human at a distance. Now you have an upgrade close look of this character. Now your eye needs all the pixels possible because it's not one little point. They're far away. And this many pixels make them up. No, they are the screen. And now you can see the illusion that was taking place far away doesn't hold up up close.
Cristina: Yeah. So it's still important.
Jack: It's still important to some degree, yeah.
Cristina: Do you think a better TV helps?
Jack: Not really. None of this s*** really matters because while we're playing a game, we tune out most of it. It's only when the people who stop to look to break.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know, people who stop and let me get all up and close onto this person's face to see how real it looks. Those people see the flaws. But those people were Already not immersed. They were intentionally breaking reality. Let's go do something. So they didn't give a s*** in the first place about how real it was. They wanted to prove it wasn't.
Cristina: Yes. Like the details in Last of Us Two that we didn't even notice. Like, them opening those doors. Like normal people open doors. Like no one paid attention.
Jack: No, no, no. It's not that nobody paid attention. This is where you're completely wrong for one basic reason. If something is done right, it goes unnoticed because it doesn't stand out as wrong.
Cristina: But then in part one, did you notice? Was it like, oh, no, that wouldn't be how they do this thing.
Jack: Well, no, it was less good. But it was good enough to not matter.
Cristina: Exactly. Like, the game itself was good enough that it didn't really matter. Those small details, like, it's nice that they're there.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no. If those details weren't there, you'd notice if they walked up to the door and it flew open, you would notice.
Cristina: And it flew open. I don't know. It depends on, I think, how the characters react to, like, if they're so still. I don't know. I guess the detail is pretty crazy. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, you don't notice it happening because it looks so normal that it's an afterthought. Yeah, but if they walk up to the door, don't touch it, and they move their hand in a way, like if they're scooping something that's not even there and then the door flies open, they're like, yeah, that's the motion for opening a door. Like, that's weird. But you'll get over it and keep playing the game.
Cristina: Yeah. Like Resident Evil games, Doors never mattered. They've always been annoying in that game.
Jack: Yeah. But you are aware that it looks unnatural.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You're not unaware. You just learn to tune it out.
Cristina: Yeah. So ridiculous.
Jack: While when it's particularly high quality in the game, it goes over your head because you never noticed it was perfect. You have to be looking for perfection in order to see it.
Cristina: But should we be looking for that? Should we have that in our games? Is that that important?
Jack: Free immersion. Yeah. You do get pulled out when things are ridiculously fake. When somebody walks up to a door, makes a motion that isn't opening a door, but they just want you to understand that that's the motion for opening a door. And then the door flies open, you're like, well, what a weird way to open the. Now you know, inherently. Yeah. He Opened the door, whatever. Yeah, but it's not as perfect in your mind. The fact that you even had to acknowledge. Oh, that's how door opens at any given moment.
Cristina: What if the game is cartoony, though? Like would. Does that take away from the immersion? Because it's not realistic, but purp. Not realistic.
Jack: It depends on the person. That was a way general question. Like, I don't know. Depends on who's playing and why they're.
Cristina: Playing like a Mario game.
Jack: Like, are they playing for the immersion? Are they playing for the realism? Are they playing for the platforming?
Cristina: Who plays for the realism? That's a weird way to play.
Jack: What do you mean? Isn't that what like a simulator is?
Cristina: I guess I don't play enough simulators.
Jack: Simulators like they are for realism. That's the point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's somebody literally playing for the realism of doing the thing that they couldn't do in real life.
Cristina: Yes. Like those farm farmer.
Jack: Yeah. Not everybody has a farm, but some.
Cristina: People can go and farm, ride those trucks. Okay. Yeah.
Jack: That's a thing that happens. Depends on the game or what matters.
Cristina: Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Jack: There's an infinite number of players, so there must be an infinite number of ways to play.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But all those things are. Selling that software in the first place is the reason that they don't need to make s***** consoles.
Cristina: Because then they just have to worry about the amount of games they have.
Jack: Yes. Which as technology has moved forward, has become way more efficient because you just need to develop the game. You don't need a hundred million billion physical copies anymore. Although a bunch of people still make physical copies. They're trying to phase that out intentionally because that's more money.
Cristina: It's more money to have it all digital.
Jack: Yeah. Because you don't have to create all the discs.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And disc boxes and all this bullshit.
Cristina: That's extra money. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, that's extra money. Well, whereas when it's fully digital, you just upload the one file.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then everybody downloads the one file.
Cristina: But when it comes to the most games, that's got to be the computer.
Jack: Yeah. The computer has everything that's on Xbox, everything that's on PlayStation and its own series of everything. One thing it doesn't have access to is Nintendo.
Cristina: That's. Yeah, that's impossible. That's just Nintendo.
Jack: Yeah. Somehow they've successfully functioned off of sharing with nobody.
Cristina: Yes. But they end up getting other people's games anyway. Everyone wants to share with them because.
Jack: They know that it's always the Third console.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So if it's there, at least we'll still make money.
Cristina: Yeah. They need two more cross play games. That's what I want to see more of. Like, come on, everyone has their consoles already. Just give us the ability to play with each other.
Jack: That really is going. That's gonna happen. It's gonna keep happening. Games that are shared amongst all the consoles are probably gonna have cross play. Call of Duties of the World, the Battlefields of the world, the Rocket Leagues of the world. Anything that has players on many different systems.
Cristina: Does Rocket League already have that? I know Call of Duty.
Jack: Rocket League was one of the first.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: I believe so, if I'm not mistaken.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But yeah, I think so because it's just a lot of different systems that have the same games.
Cristina: Awesome.
Jack: Was Rocket league just a PlayStation thing? No, I'm pretty sure Rocket League is on many consoles.
Cristina: PlayStation, I feel like. Yeah, I can see that on Nintendo. It makes sense.
Jack: I don't know if it is, but yeah, yeah, I can totally see that there too.
Cristina: And I know Call of Duty is on everything. Probably not to not Nintendo though, but.
Jack: They have a version of Call of Duty Zone Nintendo that's like watered down.
Cristina: Oh yeah, There's a multiplayer.
Jack: Don't have it. Yeah. But yes. So that's definitely why a bunch of bullshit needs to be sold. Everybody likes to make bull crap. Just all the crap.
Cristina: Because that's what makes money.
Jack: That's what makes money. Yes. That's the same problem again. Back to pharmaceutical companies. You need people to come buy the light bulb.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The light bulb is the medicine. If your medicine stops the problem, what's the point? They don't come back for the medicine.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You stopped the customer.
Cristina: So you have to get them hooked on it.
Jack: You got it.
Cristina: Not even hooked. But they have to believe they need it.
Jack: Yes. So the idea would be if you have pain, rather than giving you something that cures you of pain, I'll give you something that temporarily suppresses the pain. Now you can cope through life, but eventually that will wear off and then you come back for more.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's horrible. Yeah.
Jack: There's some f***** up nature to it, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The solution to this problem in reality is you put. You remove the ability for pharmaceutical companies to be owned by private industry and you put them all on the government. There's a reason this would work, because the government money would be what's being used. The money that goes into politician pockets. They will make sure your problem is f****** solved.
Cristina: So they can stop putting money into it.
Jack: So they can stop putting money into it. Every. There's. There's. We have an AIDS problem. Well, we gotta f****** get rid of the saves problem because I need that money in my f****** pocket. And if we keep f****** giving them remedies and they keep coming, we got to keep making the medicine.
Cristina: Aren't they the ones in charge of schools? They're not. I thought they were doing a horrible job at that.
Jack: Well, they need people to go to the schools, and they get charged for the school. Well, they distribute s***** money. They. The other schools are privately owned.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And there's redlining surrounding schools.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So your community must support the school. But if your community is of low income, then your school is also of low income, rather than each state supplying all the schools equally.
Cristina: Oh, that's messed up.
Jack: Yeah, there's a s***** system funding schools.
Cristina: Okay, districts.
Jack: There you go.
Cristina: Districts. Yeah, that's problematic.
Jack: While when you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry, if the. If pharmaceuticals are free because they are by the government and the government has to take care of its people, there's no way in h*** they're gonna let you stay sick. They can't afford it. They're gonna make sure, by any means necessary, you're f****** cured. If we have less citizens, then we have less tax money. You can't be dead.
Cristina: Is that why free health care works in other countries?
Jack: Yes, because they need to solve the problem.
Cristina: Interesting. Oh, yeah.
Jack: When it's run by private companies, they need your customer. Your customer. They don't get paid with tax dollars. They get paid by your return business. Yeah, but if you, the person, the patient, doesn't pay a dime because your government is supposed to make sure you're healthy, then they will 100% make sure you're healthy and get you the f*** out so you don't have to come back. But if you're dead, also no tax money. That's problematic.
Cristina: So you got to keep you healthy.
Jack: They got to keep you healthy. They got to make sure you are in a healthy condition. Not going to the doctor regularly.
Cristina: Amazing. Amazing.
Jack: That's the solution.
Cristina: And it is a solution in other places.
Jack: Yes. 100%.
Cristina: So crazy. We see that. And just. Just in jealousy or envy.
Jack: Yes, Capitalism. And capitalism destroys s***. The I'm better than you mentality. But some people are so poor, all they have is money, man. And that's like a reality in this country. Some people are so sad and poor that all they have is money. They got nothing else to live for.
Cristina: Do you Mean.
Jack: What do you mean? What?
Cristina: I mean that they're so poor they only have money.
Jack: Yeah. How pathetic of a human to only have money. And that's the one thing they have in life.
Cristina: They don't have anything else, like no friends or family.
Jack: You mean they don't. They don't have value in their life?
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Because purpose.
Jack: Value, meaning that's wealth.
Cristina: That's what they're missing.
Jack: You can have riches and no wealth. That's why they're different words.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You could have friends, family, love, excitement, enjoyment, fun, health.
Cristina: Without the money.
Jack: Without the money.
Cristina: Yeah. Unless you're Kat Von D. You have all of it.
Jack: Sure. I doubt all of it, but okay.
Cristina: No, she has, well, the wealth. And I'm sure she loves the art.
Jack: Yeah, but she's, like, miserable all the time. All her art is about how sad she is.
Cristina: Really. Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Anywho, the point is that you don't need the money. Those people are sad. Some people have money and they're happy, but, like, most people aren't because they keep trying to get more.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's their one thing. It's like, well, one day filled a hole, and it's like, no, you're not. No, you're not. You keep trying. The reason you're still trying is because you haven't filled the hole yet. You're still trying.
Cristina: Like Elon Musk, rich people.
Jack: Well, Elon Musk has purpose. That's something different. He doesn't give a s*** about the money. And when he happens to be, like, a product of what he does.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: His passion is being lazy.
Cristina: His passion is being lazy.
Jack: So he overproduces to ease his life and be lazy.
Cristina: Mm. Mm.
Jack: Like, some people do have purpose. He goes out there and he makes stuff. People might talk all the s*** in the world about Jeff Bezos, but he just has ideas and he puts them into play. Yeah, sometimes you're maliciously executed, but whatever. Not malicious. He just doesn't care. Morally speaking, malicious is like Zucker, f*****. That guy's goal is money. But that's also why he's a pathetic loser.
Cristina: Yes. He's probably have no happiness.
Jack: Yeah, he doesn't have, like, goals in life. He just had, like, money is the goal. Everything else is a means to the money.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay.
Jack: Bezos didn't give a s*** about the money. He was doing things. He was like, oh, I want to make this sounds like a good idea. And that sounds like a good idea. And this and that. These are people with purpose. The money isn't what makes them happy. It is just something they have.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: A lot of. But it's something they have, which some.
Cristina: People, that's the case. And some people, it's more like.
Jack: Exactly. Bill Gates, filthy rich, does a million things, though. He enjoys all of it. He just keeps doing things and finding new things to do and going to help people and sharing his money with people. Doesn't care because the money doesn't matter.
Cristina: Yeah. With his. He is trying to help people. Although now he's become the bad guy in a lot of people's view. I can't tell how they got this information where he's a villain. Well, he's such a villain character.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Because of this whole pandemic thing. I don't know. Just because he warned people. Now he's bad.
Jack: Conspiracy theory psychopaths want to find a problem with anything.
Cristina: They need someone to be the source of the problem.
Jack: Yeah. They need there to be a villain.
Cristina: Oh, yes.
Jack: And he knew.
Cristina: And he knew. He knew.
Jack: He talked about it. He knew. He's part of the cause or whatever.
Cristina: All he wanted to do was turn poop into clean water.
Jack: And then he's got vaccines in mind and he's like, this is how they've helped fund them. He helped scientists. He did what he had to to get vaccines out when people. Well, he's not a doctor. Yeah. But he was also not into making f****** vaccines. But in their eyes.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He went in the lab, f****** poured some chemicals together, walked outside and he's like, I got a vaccine. It's like, no. He paid chemists.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And biologists just to work together and make a f****** vaccine.
Cristina: Yeah. There was another wealthy person during this whole thing that gave a lot of her money to the vaccine cure. She donated it. No one saw her as an evil villain because of it.
Jack: It's because he's also out there pushing it. Well, Bill Gates is saying, take it, don't take it. Must be corrupted. Like, why?
Cristina: I don't know. Because they have nanobytes in the nanobots. Nanobytes in it. That's so crazy.
Jack: Or chips.
Cristina: Or chips.
Jack: You're getting chipped. What do you mean, nanobots?
Cristina: I don't. That was one of the things. I don't know how, but the shots have nanobots.
Jack: I thought it was chips. You were getting chipped.
Cristina: It's. There's so many different versions of it that you're picky about it. I don't know.
Jack: No, I didn't hear.
Cristina: Oh, nano.
Jack: Anything about nanobots. I only Heard about the chips.
Cristina: Yep. There's also nanobots that they put chips.
Jack: In you to track you.
Cristina: Well, chips are old. That's always been a thing. The new thing is nanobots.
Jack: What are the nanobots gonna do?
Cristina: Control your brain.
Jack: Is that the goal?
Cristina: I think so. I think it's always about mind control.
Jack: But, like, you go on Facebook.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's good enough.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They don't need all this advanced robotic technology to. You go on Facebook and you believe that there are conspiracy theories surrounding vaccine. Vaccines. There are conspiracy theories surrounding the moon landing. There are conspiracy theories surrounding presidents and reptilians and f****** adrenochrome and, like, pizza places with children in the basement.
Cristina: Like, all of that is through Facebook.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Like, Facebook's the villain.
Jack: You don't need nanobots if you're already dumb enough to believe, being brainwashed, that there are nanobots. If you're stupid enough to believe there are nanobots inside of a syringe being put into your bloodstream to go affect your brain.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: They don't need nanobots inside of a syringe to control your brain. Facebook convinced you already. You don't. That's crazy. That's a weird paradox, isn't it? If you believe it, they don't need it.
Cristina: They don't. Oh, yes.
Jack: Because you're already that gullible.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah. You just. The. There's nothing. Like. They should just end Facebook. They know they should just end it because of all this fake news. That is so people just eat it up. They're told that it's fake and beware.
Jack: They don't give a s***. No, no, no, no, no.
Cristina: They just eat it.
Jack: And all of us know these people. We all know these people who are personally.
Cristina: Yes. Yes.
Jack: There's nobody who doesn't know somebody on Facebook. And if you know somebody on Facebook book.
Cristina: You know, somebody who's read an article title or something.
Jack: Yeah. Somebody who's on a team based on Facebook.
Cristina: Yes. Who read about how cereals poisoning you or whatever.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did no source research. No, no.
Cristina: But someone made a video explaining how it's.
Jack: And they believe it. They believe it. Yep. That's how it goes.
Cristina: What?
Jack: That's what Facebook is for. To brainwash a bunch of people into believing that there are a million different problems going on.
Cristina: So crazy. And I'm sure it spread to the other apps too. I'm sure it's an Instagram and Tick Tock and what is it? Twitter. But because the same people. Main source.
Jack: Because the same people who have Facebook want to share what they've learned to other with everybody else. And it's like, well, I have all these other social medias. I gotta go talk about this thing I found out, this destroying the world.
Cristina: Yeah. Let me make a video on Twitter.
Jack: And just spread like wildfires. The source is Facebook.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But it just keeps spreading and people are like, well, no, those are the righties. Or those are the. No, it's all of you. It's all of you. All sides.
Cristina: It's all sides.
Jack: If you are on a team, you fell for it.
Cristina: And if you're on Facebook, you fell. You probably fell for it.
Jack: Well, if you're on Facebook, you're on a team.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes.
Jack: Yeah. If you're on the team, you fell for it. And if you're on the team, you're on Facebook.
Cristina: That's.
Jack: That's how it goes.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then there's the people who are like, well, no, Facebook is corrupt. I'm gonna go to this other website that does exactly the same thing, but.
Cristina: For my team that's probably owned by Facebook.
Jack: It's probably owned by Facebook or supported by Facebook.
Cristina: There's so many apps. Other apps that's owned by Facebook.
Jack: The other Trump ones.
Cristina: The Trump ones, yeah.
Jack: Because Facebook is like, it's so leftist and they're. They're censoring us here. So I'm gonna go somewhere where my type of people are at. You mean where you're gonna shut down the left ideology and have confirmation bias about your ideology instead of be somewhere where they have confirmation bias about their ideology so that you can say we're right? Because people are telling you you're right the same way people were telling them they're right when you were telling them they're wrong. So the same s***, but over there.
Cristina: Yes, fun. What do you care from that confirmation bias?
Jack: You feel good. You're like, yeah, yeah, I'm smart. I. I'm part of the in crowd. I know they're the stupid ones.
Cristina: I know now I gotta block them and never talk to them again.
Jack: Yeah, that happened so much starting like 20. Actually, it started in 2016.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yeah. People siding with Trump people. No, he's a monster.
Cristina: Oh, my God. I know. People who didn't like Trump, who just stopped being friends with people who supported Trump.
Jack: Yeah, you can see that on social media everywhere. No Trump supporters. If you support Trump, don't follow me.
Cristina: It's hilarious. All these Trump people are probably hiding or something, or at least around here.
Jack: Yeah, man, that's f****** crazy.
Cristina: That Facebook's crazy.
Jack: That everybody's crazy.
Cristina: Everyone's crazy. Yeah.
Jack: Yep. Everybody's got their own special brand of crazy. And everybody's got their own little confirmation bias bubble thing that they are following through with.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: We're not trying to fix problems. Nobody's trying to fix problems. Everybody just want to scream the loudest.
Cristina: Or blame someone else for the problem. Yeah.
Jack: When at the end of the day, the problem is made by the same people who you are following. Make the government solve everything. The government will if they have to pay for themselves.
Cristina: That's the solution.
Jack: That's the solution. Hold the government accountable. They want to. Look, people are trying to get rich off the government. They become politicians. They pocket money. Easy tax money, Easiest f****** way to get money. So make the. This is why they don't want to pay for s***. They will do whatever the f*** they can to convince you private industry is what matters. Well, no, make the government pay for things that require human, like human rights. Make them pay for human rights and health and education and all these things out of their own pocket and distribute it evenly to anyone and everyone and you will see a problem. They will immediately, immediately do whatever the f*** to solve the issue.
Cristina: If only we can come together to do that, though.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: The whole team thing really stops that.
Jack: Yeah, well, their goal is the whole team's thing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They need us to fight each other so that we don't realize that they're giving us bullshit that doesn't work and allowing companies to do things privately and f*** everybody over because we don't have to pay for it. We keep them fighting that industry is the problem. And then we don't have to pay for the things that we can easily cover with the tax money that they've already given us to cover those things and we can pocket that money.
Cristina: Is giving them money.
Jack: The industry pays them. Yeah.
Cristina: Yeah, what?
Jack: Yeah, the industry pays them because the industry makes so much money off of f****** robbing these people, but they pay them to, like, keep it this way.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Keep it this way. You make money, we make money. But if the industry doesn't make money and the government is the one paying for it, based on the tax dollars, if it is even cut just enough for all the things that matter to be covered and a little surplus for the politicians to decide what goes to that little surplus is suddenly not enough. And they're like, well, we can't steal this now because it'll be obvious there's not absurd monies flying everywhere in every direction, which means we need to solve the problem so that people don't come back. So that there's a lot of money sitting around so that then we can scoop off the top and nobody notices that there's a little bit missing.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know if that's a good thing. That's a great thing, I guess. Sounds bad, but it's better than what's.
Jack: Happening now where private companies get the shafts people. It's the same thing as the prison system.
Cristina: We should stop that.
Jack: Yeah. The prison system is like a pharmaceutical company with humans. With humans.
Cristina: That's pretty horrible.
Jack: They just give s***** service. But it's. I guess it's slavery.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Slavery.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We pay them well. You pay them so little intentionally so you don't really have to waste money so little.
Cristina: They pay them in cents.
Jack: Yeah. 8 cents an hour or some s*** like that.
Cristina: It's crazy. Just slavery. I don't know.
Jack: That's the 13th amendment.
Cristina: You gotta change that. We gotta change colleges.
Jack: Colleges should be paid for by the government.
Cristina: Yes. Because I feel like in that case kids are being sort of slaved.
Jack: Yeah. People are being convinced to be go into debt, into tremendous amounts of debt. People who are not allowed to drink alcohol yet. People who are not allowed to make choices about their own life yet they can't go buy cigarettes, they can't go buy alcohol.
Cristina: Gamble.
Jack: They can't gamble. You can get into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. We can send you to war to die because that's beneficial for us.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But that same person we sent to war to die. No, you can't buy alcohol yet. That's not legal. You can go die because we said it's okay. Go die. You're gonna make us money because we're over there stealing some s*** anyways. But no, you can't buy alcohol. We need your brain to be in great condition so that we can abuse it.
Cristina: Oh, the brain damage. Oh, they should have. But the rules should be a little different for them if they're gonna do that.
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: Like if you join the army, maybe you could drink a little. Like maybe the. Those things the age lowers for them.
Jack: No, if you can go to the military, you should be able to do everything an adult can.
Cristina: Yeah. I mean, if you're.
Jack: Yeah. Everybody who's the right age should have the same rights. Why are we giving different people different rights?
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that would be a horrible thing to do because then people might want to go to military. Yes. Yeah. That's a horrible plan. Never mind that yeah.
Jack: All you're doing is giving people incentive to go to. They should go because they want to, not because there's some s*** over there they want to do.
Cristina: Yeah. Ah, all right. That makes way more sense.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It is definitely problematic to give incentive to go to the military.
Cristina: Mm. There's so many problems.
Jack: But then they do give incentive, right? They'll be like, you get this benefit, that benefit, and all of it is a lie.
Cristina: Yeah. There's schooling they're supposed to help you with.
Jack: Yeah. Only as long as you're a soldier. They say they're gonna support you afterwards, but the moment you're done, it is hard to get any of that s***.
Cristina: Really. Like, how do you even have time to do any of that while you're a soldier?
Jack: Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's a con. They will do whatever to convince you, then you're there and realize you have no time for anything. And then by the time you get.
Cristina: Out, they're like, psych.
Jack: Yeah. They're like, what do you mean you're not serving here anymore? Oh, no. There's these paperworks. Oh, no. Well, it's really only if you do this many hours of work average for us paperwork and stuff and.
Cristina: Oh, no.
Jack: Well, no, you got to do this thing. And you got. Before too long. Some people are 180 years old before they finally get their f****** thing that they've been waiting for since, like, World War II or some crazy s***. It's like, what the f***, bro?
Cristina: What?
Jack: It's because the military sucks like that because it's private industry.
Cristina: They're really conning people. Although I guess every business is conning. Is conning us. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, all businesses are just. It's all about. If money is what you do, then you are f*****. It should be every Its job. It should be, you get paid a jobs wage. Everybody gets paid a jobs wage. You're higher rank, a little more money. Yeah, but you can't get more money. Somehow you can't. Well, we're gonna do this tactic and do that thing, and then, boom, I get more money. There should be no way you get more money. It should be all evenly distributed the right way with so much micromanaging by so many different parties that there's no way something could slip up and be different.
Cristina: Are you talking about communism? Has all of this been about, we should be a communist country? Like, the whole. Like, the government should have control of all the businesses, and also everyone should have equal play?
Jack: I don't think the government should have control of all the businesses. Like. Yeah, go do the light bulb thing. Whatever. Competition. Yes, but like, medicine.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's people's health. Like, I said human rights. Yeah, I specifically said human rights. I use those words.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah, Yeah.
Jack: I don't believe the government should have say in what, like, a business of, like, selling cars should do. Like, who the f*** cares, dude?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, let them do what they want to do.
Cristina: Okay, but in something like pharmacies or.
Jack: Pharmacies or prisons or hospitals or school.
Cristina: Yes. Okay.
Jack: The same way we support the cops and the firefighters.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We should support those other things. Those other things.
Cristina: Okay. But not everything.
Jack: No, that would be ridiculous.
Cristina: That's.
Jack: Yeah, that's excessive.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because then where is the end of. Where's the opportunity for the individual?
Cristina: Yeah. But then you also want people to.
Jack: Be paid the same in the military.
Cristina: Okay. Oh, yes. What are you talking about?
Jack: That's what we were talking about for the longest.
Cristina: Oh, okay. I thought you meant, like, everyone, though.
Jack: No. In the military.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That nobody in the military gets different pay. Like, your rank is your pay, and there's nothing you could do to get paid different. There's no job that's gonna give you more money or anything, and everything is fixed. And there's so much micromanaging by many, many different groups that there's nobody who could skim anything off of anything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So that now you just do your job. Right. Versus do whatever's gonna get you more money.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because when there's a money incentive, you've gone crooked. That's where corruption lies. When there's money incentive, you have corruption.
Cristina: And that's the problem with the military.
Jack: That's a problem with the military. That's a problem with hospitals. That's a problem with pharmaceutical industries. That's like, what the f*** is the opioid pandemic if not a bunch of pharmaceutical douchebags taking advantage. Taking advantage. And then they could just claim bankruptcy and get the f*** out of there. Take all the money out of the banks and disappear and they don't have to pay s*** because they left the country. Now, can the government do that if they f***** up?
Cristina: No.
Jack: No. You got to fix the problem, or we burn you down.
Cristina: Yes, that is a great idea. Yes. Let's burn them down.
Jack: Yeah. So when it comes to human rights, that should be the government's job. There should be nobody telling somebody, medicine. No. People need medicine.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: You cannot have private industry running pharmaceutical companies. F*** that s***.
Cristina: No more pain pills. Give us something that actually Stops the problem. Yeah.
Jack: If the government has to pay for all of it, they will. They'll have the solution.
Cristina: Yeah, that's. That makes sense. Yes, we should do that. We should do all of that.
Jack: Yes. That's how everything gets better. And we don't. Like, it's alright if people give us crap because that's competition, but not if it's related to human rights and health and.
Cristina: No, but if it's like a hamburger.
Jack: Yeah, if it's like a hamburger. Like, whatever, dude. You're opting into it. Whatever. You can choose which burger you want.
Cristina: Yeah, that's fair competition.
Jack: That's fair competition. They're all selling crap. It's fine.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But, like, not if. Well, I need my cancer medication. But they're just gonna give you some remedy. Because we can't cure cancer. You f****** crazy? We need you back. No, the government is gonna cure your f****** cancer, bro. We can't keep giving this m*********** remedies forever. Give him the f****** cure. Get him the h*** out of here forever.
Cristina: Yes, get out. Because that's. That's wasting their money.
Jack: Yes, and they just want the money and it's fine. Look, let them all get filthy rich. We all just. We all just have to agree. The politicians can be as rich as they want off of tax money so long as all the things that the tax money is there for is covered. Yes, that's an agreement that if we make as people, it doesn't matter how much they steal, so long as all the human rights. Not even human rights, so long as everything that money is there for is covered. We will turn the other way and you can skim however much the f*** is left. But that means medicine is covered. Yeah, soldiers get what the f*** they deserve.
Cristina: But then they have to, like, give us a report on everything.
Jack: Yeah, education is covered. We're talking grade school, high school, college.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We're talking people are paid fair f****** wages.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We're talking the police are paid well, teachers are paid well, firefighters are paid well, medical workers are paid well. Government workers of any rank are paid well. And then whatever the f*** you got left, you can skim off the top. That includes our streets should be fixed, definitely. You know, like, that's government job. You should have our streets fixed because we're paying for that. Infrastructure should be immaculate. Our sewage systems should be spotless. Everything should run clean. There should be no flooding f****** anywhere.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And in this case, we look the other way. We won't even ask what's left. We won't ask don't return any of the money.
Cristina: You.
Jack: You are entitled to all of it.
Cristina: The other thing that we should think of doing because of global warming. If we can't solve that global warming problem. You mean climate change or climate change, Sorry, climate change problem. We should just have all the. Everyone prepared for anything. If there's a hurricane, we need a place to. Not a hurricane, a tornado. We need something for that. Every city should have something for that. For any situation that might happen. Even if it never happens where you're from, just in case. Because you don't know. You don't know if some weird. If a fire is gonna happen and it never happens here. It's always in California. Maybe we should be prepared for that anyways.
Jack: Yeah, that's fair. Have everybody prepared for all the possible disasters that nature might throw at us.
Cristina: Yes, I think that's something we should think about. Besides stopping it or slowing it down or whatever it is, the gold right now. We should also be prepared for all of it.
Jack: That's fair. And all of that calculated into the cost.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Everything covered. Not only that, like, let's be fair. We should also have that system where we check off a list of things we want our money to go to and we choose percentages, right? School and medical and prison and this and that and like all the f****** things and military and blah, blah, blah, like 50 different things on a sheet. And we choose whenever we vote. We can choose to change it. We don't have to. We could just. Whatever the f*** I had last time is what I wanted to be this time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And you can ignore it, but at least once you have to fill in this sheet that says where you want it. I guess you don't have to fill in. If you don't, then it's broken up evenly amongst all the things.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But you can check off the boxes you do want it to go to and say, I want all my money broken evenly amongst these things and not going to any of those things.
Cristina: If you're a weirdo that wants like 50% in one thing, maybe 25 in another, could that be an option too? Like maybe a line next to it where they could put percentages can choose.
Jack: How you want it distributed.
Cristina: Yeah, that'd be.
Jack: Now this is an interesting problem, right? Because thinking about this as I say it, so you don't want to fund the police and you say, I don't want any of my tax money to go to the police. But if you called the police, it would still show up at your house because there Isn't something proving that you didn't fund the police?
Cristina: What's the problem with that?
Jack: You're still using a resource that your tax money didn't cover.
Cristina: But then you have to support everything.
Jack: You have to support everything, and you're really just choosing what percentage you want everything to go to.
Cristina: Okay, that's the better option.
Jack: That's the better option because you. If you opt out of anything you shouldn't. You should. Legally, you shouldn't be allowed to use it, but. S***. All right, See the problem?
Cristina: So you got to support everything.
Jack: You got to support everything. The things you don't, because they are functional pieces of your government.
Cristina: Yes. Okay, that makes sense. Yes.
Jack: Now it would be like, I want this much percentage over there this month. So I guess you just choose the distribution. We're in the world of digital anyway, so you could just give us a bunch of sliders on a screen.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We move it and like it. If I pull this up, then all of these percentages go down. So I got to choose and make sure that it's distributed how I want it to be. And then once I hit. Okay, I don't have to do it again.
Cristina: Nope.
Jack: And if I don't do it, then it's evenly broken up amongst all of them, and that's fine.
Cristina: It should be like the voting process isn't like every one year or every.
Jack: Well, for everything. It's every four years, I think.
Cristina: Oh, for everything.
Jack: Most things at least anything we vote for regularly.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But, yeah, it should definitely be a voting process.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But it should be optional because maybe you don't want to. And it just goes. Breaks up evenly.
Cristina: Yeah. Automatic.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Even though.
Jack: And I think that's fair because. Yeah, whatever. I don't care. Do whatever you want with it. Yeah, but if I think our military is overfunded and a lot of people, like, what if the majority of the population thinks the military is overfunded? Then we'd have a weaker military by default. But we opted into that.
Cristina: But they will still be getting something.
Jack: They will still be getting something. They're not getting nothing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And same thing with the police. Maybe our police are overfunded. We would know based on what the people want, not what some politicians are agreeing to. The people did this. The people said this. So I guess we do defund the police and give them less. It's not disband the police, because that's ridiculous. It's defund the police.
Cristina: Then how do we. I guess we would see the results of what the average of the percentage, the total.
Jack: Yeah, everybody's total put together would equal like now this is the new hundred percent with everybody calculated well. Okay, they said there's 20 different things. And they want the police to have only 4%, but they want firefighters to have 10% and they want military to have 4% as well. But they want education to have 20% and the medical system to have 20%. And it's like, okay, so that's how the distribution will be. Now we have $100 trillion in tax every year. Now to that hundred trillion dollars, 20 trillion goes to education and 20 trillion goes to the medical system because 20% was to each of those, while only 4 trillion goes to all the police of the entire country.
Cristina: By seeing this, we can see if they actually change. And do they say they're gonna do.
Jack: So if we as a country say we're, we're, we're attacking the police, we're just removing their funding. They are too savage. Then we could just bring it all down and we chose it. And we could do the opposite and be like, they're underfunded and we got a lot of crime. Let's boost that s*** this year.
Cristina: Yes. Like, it might be a year to year thing. I guess it depends on like how bad things get. If things get horrible the next year, then you're like, okay. And they need to change the.
Jack: They need to campaign for themselves and they need to prove it. Not just by going out there and like, oh, you know, support the police because they'll be out people out there with like a hat. Hey, you know, don't even want to.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or whatever. Except they'll be doing like, hey, you know, put your tax money towards cops. But there will be cops doing good things. Their job will be well, because they know that their budget depends on it. It's no longer. We're gonna get the money no matter what the f*** we do. I'm a f****** officer. I'm the law. I make the rules. You just obey what I say. No, that ceases to exist.
Cristina: Because you're like the good student now. You're like the good student. Like you want to show the teacher.
Jack: How well you're exactly. You get like, I do my job well and I deserve the money. We deserve the money. We've been doing our job well. Look at how low our crime. Look at how low our death rate is. Look how rarely our guns go off. We, we deserve it. We've earned it.
Cristina: Yeah, like we still need to help with this thing though, you know, like we're Doing our best.
Jack: In the case of something like the police, though, this is really unique because. Right. You can have, I guess, incident reports for everything. So not only does the total money get put into. So, okay, now the police get 4%.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So 4% of that trillion. That hundred trillion. So they get $4 trillion. Now, 4 trillion is a cops. 100%. 100% of all cops in the United States are gonna get that 4 trillion broken amongst them. So now these cops need to submit to the government their annual report of this many guns went off, this many incidents were had, this many complaints were had. Also, complaints need to be handled by a separate agency. Because the fact that people go and report crooked cops and then they just throw that away, that's not cool. You should be able to go straight to Internal Affairs.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And not to the police department you're trying to report. You go to internal affairs and you report to cops, and then Internal affairs investigates. Not the same police station that was corrupted in the first place. Trying to report is where you're gonna go report.
Cristina: That's stupid nonsense. Yeah.
Jack: A third party should handle everything, always. So in this case, they always need to submit their report. Or I guess internal affairs investigates and gets a report. And in this instant, whoever follows the rule, like, you have to break up that 4 trillion, which is 100% amongst everybody. The people who performed best get the most. The people who performed worst get the least. So that they have to up their game and be less crooked to earn more money.
Cristina: That's good. Yeah. Then. But they'll also have the proof of, like, what they actually need when the next time they have to ask for more money, they can be more specific about.
Jack: Yeah. If it's like, okay, our guns go off too often. Well, your cops need more training.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So we're only gonna give you more money. But that money can only be used for more training.
Cristina: Yeah. Things like that work.
Jack: So it'll be distributed. Very calculated, all of it. Micromanage everything.
Cristina: That's a lot of work. But also a lot of jobs.
Jack: A lot of jobs.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's a lot of jobs. You make a lot of jobs, this country gets funded. It's a lot of jobs, man.
Cristina: It works out.
Jack: It works out.
Cristina: No one can complain about jobs. There'll be too many jobs.
Jack: There'll be too many jobs.
Cristina: We'll have more people.
Jack: Yeah, we're gonna need more people. Everybody can have a job.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What's gonna happen is all the people who do have the capacity will put them through some tests and then give Them these jobs, which will then remove people from the jobs of like construction and landscaping because all they have to do is manage funds and whatever in these other places. Construction, landscaping, sewage workers, trash picker, upper people. Any of these people who had a mind are gonna be plucked out of those jobs, leaving mad vacancies. Now people coming out of high school and not going to college can go and get these jobs immediately, while the people who are gonna go and fill in more corporate jobs get passes into college because college is provided by the government anyways. And you can go if you want to for f****** free.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And so all the jobs are covered, all the education is covered, there's a cease of corruption at least when it comes to government related things because you need to prove it to the people every f****** time. Always.
Cristina: Yes. D*** beautiful. Yes.
Jack: Fixing the country.
Cristina: Well, for our ideas, for ideas.
Jack: There's probably mad holes and everything inside somebody. If you find the holes, don't tell.
Cristina: Us what you mean, don't tell us.
Jack: Let us know.
Cristina: Let us know.
Jack: Drop it in the comments below. Below or above or on the left or on the right or on a different screen. Some people got the dual screen experience.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, it's not like this is like.
Cristina: You send us an email. That's a different screen.
Jack: Email us. Yeah, exactly, email us how it's. I guess it's a different window technically.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah, email us at someplace@wherewhere.com. and so yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. Of which there are many. There are many in which we fix the government according to our personal views because we're right and everybody else is wrong. And politicians who went to school and took civics and were lawyers to begin with and studied this their whole lives and have done nothing but work at this their whole lives. We know better. Yes, we know better.
Cristina: We do everything we said I'm sure is correct.
Jack: Yeah. Way more correct than anything they've ever said.
Cristina: We're the correctest, we're educated and there's nothing from Illuminati. And they're definitely know what they're talking about.
Jack: Yeah, the Illuminati controls so much and understands so much. So like, look, you politicians want to fix the world, you do what we say. You do what we say right the f*** now anyways. You can find those episodes related to all these things. There's a bunch of them. There's one where we break down how the branches of government work. There's one where we talk about different types of laws and abortion and how politics affects religion and just A bunch of different things.
Cristina: Like a lot of political episodes. Yeah, there's.
Jack: There's quite a.
Cristina: So random.
Jack: Yeah, we got like a good maybe 10 to 15 political episodes. So you can go find those. Just skim through names. I'll tell you what they're about. And you can find those at all the places, including the official website, greatthoughts.info and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.
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Jack: Yes. And also make sure to leave us a nice review. You know, leave us some stars of any amount. Subscribe. You subscribe, you rate and you review. But the review is kind of the most important part. Or is it the subscription? I guess it's a subscription and then it's the review.
Cristina: And you gotta subscribe to us everywhere.
Jack: Yeah, it has to be everywhere.
Cristina: Find us everywhere. And you subscribe us on all those platforms.
Jack: Yeah, because when you're not paying attention to one, you'll hear about us on the other and you'll be like, oh, the newest thing on the. So you subscribe on all the places.
Cristina: Yes. And then you listen to us on each one.
Jack: Yeah. And then we get an extra hit from you everywhere. And then you're so familiar with the episode by the last one, which is like 15 in. Yeah, like 15 hours of one episode.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: And each one, it's 15 times by the last one. You could say what we're saying as we're saying it. It's like a song. Like you memorize a song.
Cristina: Well, let someone who might like this show know about it.
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is overpowered. Make sure to get people to listen. And also you can find me on the stereo app having conversations with complete strangers at random moments. I never really know when I'm gonna be there, so you pretty much just have to follow me and I guess, like, turn on notifications or some s***.
Cristina: Listen to old episodes.
Jack: Yeah, there's a bunch of old episodes, which is, in theory, the same. When I have guests, you know, when there's a guest on the show, we have them and it's just a random conversation. And stereo is basically me doing that with a bunch of strangers. So if you like. When I have guests on the conversation podcast, it's the same sort of the same thing with just complete strangers that drift in and out sometimes it'll be many different conversations with many strangers over the course of an hour or two. Sometimes we're lucky enough to find somebody who's interesting and I don't feel the need to get the h*** out of there. And we'll have a long conversation that lasts one or two hours with one person.
Cristina: Yeah. So if you like our guest episodes, go follow us there.
Jack: Yes. Eventually we might figure out how to convert. That is something that we could play over here. But in the meantime, go find it on Sero app.
Cristina: Yes. And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing presido and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye. Winters and death. Winters and death. Winters and death. Embrace.
Cristina: How? How, sir, How?
Jack: Winter dance.
Cristina: That's not a thing. That can happen. That's not a thing. Turds and death can embrace whatever was. The t*** is embrace. Embrace in death. But the t*** is embraced whatever the t*** was before it was the t***.
Jack: So you're telling me a t*** is an inanimate object?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Well, here's the thing. We have a galvanization list, or I guess a list of life. And turds fall into which one.
Cristina: What?
Jack: They're made of cells. Living.
Cristina: Those cells are dead.
Jack: Are they?
Cristina: They're dead.
Jack: Are turds made of. Let's do this. Let's find out with the power of goggles. Is poo made of cells?
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.