Rambling 182: Test Tube Babies
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Was Roe v Wade good or evil? Are Bombshell Witnesses just TMZ employees? Can babies be grown in a tube? The duo unpack the one and only true solution to the Pro Choice Pro Life argument.
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Topics Discussed:
- The Apocalypse
- Bombshell Witness
- Roe v Wade
- Test Tube Organs and Body Parts
- Artificial Womb
- Dolly the Cloned Sheep
- Winnie The Clone
- Genetic Engineering
- Designer Babies
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: This is a show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. So be ready to be baffled. So baffled.
Cristina: It's very baffling.
Jack: This is all baffling. Everything is so baffling and absurd and absurd. The camp, look, things and stuff, you know.
Cristina: Yes, that's.
Jack: That's the premise of this show.
Cristina: You talk about things and stuff.
Jack: Things and stuff. It's absurd and baffling. You going to be baffled by the.
Cristina: Absurdity of the things and stuff.
Jack: Of the things and stuff. It's kind of how it rolls. Well, look, society is falling apart. We know the end of the world is coming. Or it's here. It happened already.
Cristina: It happened several times. It's always happening.
Jack: No, you know what's weird?
Cristina: What?
Jack: Based on the sort of apocalyptic, like, biblicalness to how everything's piling up together and it's like the end of days, clearly, whether religiously or not. And, like, everybody's like, yeah, it's falling apart. It's kind of wrapping up. But given that situation that the world is slowly collapsing into itself and everybody seems to be sort of collectively numb to how the collapse is happening. Where is this ship going?
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: Like, nobody's freaking the f*** out. We're watching it happen. I mean, some people freaking out, but nobody's significant is. No, it's kind of watching that happen.
Cristina: Which makes me wonder if it's really the end, if every other time we thought it was the end, there was people who were freaking out, and most people were not freaking out. We just hear about the few people that did freak out.
Jack: But I think we're all in agreement that it's wrapping up. I think we really believe it this time. Like, this is it. If it was like, oh, no, you know, we're gonna blow ourselves up or something, great. But, like, you know, we're all gonna drown soon in boiling oceans.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's like, well, maybe. Maybe that one's different than us assuming than being scared of ourselves. It's us versus Mother Nature now, and we're losing.
Cristina: Some people still don't think that's happening.
Jack: That's totally fine. But it is happening. Regardless of what anybody thinks.
Cristina: That's how it's gonna go.
Jack: Yeah. Society's falling apart, man. Look, we got. We're going backwards in time. What Happened. We did the whole. I guess, I guess we're just a news podcast now, right?
Cristina: Yes. What's the news?
Jack: The news. So there's this lady from, from the Trump, from the Trump guy who was in, in a place one time and told people to do things. That guy, I don't know if you heard about him. Well, that guy there was a girl, 20 something year old, 25ish or some s*** that was working there and saw a bunch of stuff. And so she went and she testified. But she wasn't testifying about like outward out, like blatant crimes committed or anything. No, it was more like this is how. He was a jerk. But it was like this is the hot.
Cristina: So she was gossiping about him. I guess what it is just gossip.
Jack: No. And that's the craziest thing because they're like, this is the bombshell witness. And like, is this gonna make it so that Trump now gets convicted? Everybody's talking like, oh, it's the end of Trump because of this witness.
Cristina: We just find out he's a mean employee. I don't know. Employer.
Jack: Yeah, he's just, he's just a douche. Basically everything she said. He had anger tantrums and threw the food against the wall like, okay, how dare he Looks illegal legal, bro. But that's crazy because this, you know, the world and it's stuff. Didn't a bunch of kids just get murdered? That just happened. But you know this bombshell witness about Trump throwing food at a wall, Is.
Cristina: That more shocking than the truck full of dead bodies?
Jack: What?
Cristina: The truck? That was I think in California or something, just with like 40 dead bodies.
Jack: Oh s***. Smugglers, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Oh f***. That's crazy.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: That's crazy. Like what the h*** is happening on the flip side? On the flip side, abortion. Like it happened, the predicted happened. We forcefully legislated a bunch of anti body, anti choice things to force people to wear masks and force people to take vaccines. Giving businesses and giving hospitals and government places the right to deny and treat people differently until they do the thing. So we took away freedom of choice for bodies. The left did that and then the right grabbed that s*** and ran across the field with the idea that we can't, that we can force people to do whatever the f*** we want with their body and got rid of Roe vs. Wade.
Cristina: I don't understand how they did not see that coming.
Jack: I don't understand how the f*** I've been talking about this for so long. How dumb this plan is to force people to wear masks and take vaccines. There's obviously that's one thing it could be used for. You're forcing people to do s*** with their body. There's a clear, obvious problem with this plan.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And, like, they didn't give a s***, and now they're super mega f*****. And it's like, whoa, dude, it's your fault. Yeah.
Cristina: Is that what you're saying? Yeah.
Jack: Yeah, it's their fault. It's so dumb. So un thought out. They stand so hard for a thing until they screw themselves over with it.
Cristina: And the worst part is that every news thing is about it. I'm tired of it.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: I don't care.
Jack: Yeah. What about the people who don't give a s*** about kids?
Cristina: I don't know. Yes. I don't care. I don't know.
Jack: It's crazy. I don't understand the problem. Look, look, we should be allowed to kill babies.
Cristina: That's your solution?
Jack: Yeah, kill the babies.
Cristina: Kill the babies.
Jack: But no, there's definitely a solution for this already. We just have to do what the Chinese do. Test tube babies, bro.
Cristina: I don't think they do that. What proof is there that they do that? They don't do that.
Jack: The subhuman army?
Cristina: Well, yes, that, but, I mean, the actual Chinese people don't do that.
Jack: What actual Chinese people?
Cristina: The one. The people we have. The government has a test tube babies, but the actual people aren't creating test tube babies.
Jack: No. I guess. Okay, I see the problem.
Cristina: Getting rid of babies. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta murder babies. Well, we need to give people this technology. So this is why I think it's important that we teach people how test tube babies function.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So that they understand the test tube baby technology in great detail.
Cristina: In case they don't know what it is.
Jack: Because they don't know what it is.
Cristina: It's not actual test tubes.
Jack: It's. Well, no, it is test tubes.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Total actual test tubes.
Cristina: No, it's not.
Jack: No. Well, you're talking about the test tube baby project or some s*** like that, which is different than what I'm talking.
Cristina: Called test tube babies, though.
Jack: Test tube baby project is about creating, fertilizing an embryo ahead of time.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You know, get the egg, get the sperm, make the magic happen in the test tube, and then extract the baby from the test tube into the mummy. Then the mummy gives birth to the baby. That's not what I'm talking about.
Cristina: What are you talking about?
Jack: I'm talking about growing the entire being in the test tube.
Cristina: Is that even a Thing.
Jack: It's a hundred percent a thing.
Cristina: The baby.
Jack: The whole baby. The test tube is a blanket term for the artificial womb the baby would be inside of.
Cristina: Okay. Because you imagine test tube and you think of those little things, you know, in the science class.
Jack: I mean, the liquid inside of the test tube could be everything that's inside of the mother's body. And then you could literally watch the baby as it grows. That's definitely something that could happen. That'd be interesting to watch, actually.
Cristina: Watch a baby grow.
Jack: Grow. Yeah. Work in a lab where you have a test tube baby and it's going to be there for nine months, getting bigger, and every day you'll see a slight increment.
Cristina: I guess you should be able to see it.
Jack: Be cool, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's an interesting thing.
Cristina: Wait, but is this a thing or not?
Jack: 100%. That technology definitely exists for the masses to use to some degree. It's been done before. Like we raise that sheep Dolly inside of a test tube. Dolly was cloned, grown in a test tube. We have the technology for this stuff. This is real.
Cristina: Why we should do that? Why is that the way.
Jack: Because it's. It's the middle ground between abortion and having choice.
Cristina: Because you're taking it out of the mom.
Jack: Yes. The woman can have the abortion and the child can continue to live.
Cristina: Okay, but like, people want to get abortions in different times of their.
Jack: That's totally fine. It doesn't matter what point you take the abortions. We modify how abortions work and then take the baby and put it in the test tube in which it will grow.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Simple stuff, man.
Cristina: Simple. Think that's simple.
Jack: Simple. We have all the technology, all the technology.
Cristina: Can you explain this technology?
Jack: The technology for the. Well, it's. It'd be crazy to go into grave detail about how the technology itself works. I can give you examples.
Cristina: Talking about you're. It's more like a machine that's keeping the baby alive.
Jack: I feel like you're very fixated on the word tube.
Cristina: Yes, yes, I am.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: I don't know. So it's not a test tube. Why is that? That's a ridiculous name.
Jack: Of course it is. It's just talking about a baby grown in something that is. It's in a lab and it's not inside a woman.
Cristina: Okay. Okay.
Jack: But the artificial womb could be a test tube. It could literally be a test tube and there would be. Nothing would change in the process. It can literally be a test tube that we can see inside of a giant tank with A human growing inside of it.
Cristina: Okay. What?
Jack: So even if it was a test tube, who cares? It still would function equally.
Cristina: How?
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: I don't know. I just.
Jack: It's hard to imagine a test tube working.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No, look, the. You'd have some sort of wire connected to your umbilical cord. Then through that wire will be feeding the same nutrients that you would receive through your umbilical cord. The fluid that you're floating inside of is not just to suspend you in a safe gel of sorts, but it would have the same nutrients and material that allows your body to slowly form from it.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You deposit the fertilized embryo that's already a fetus growing into the center of that gel, where this creature would start to grow, connected to the umbilical cord that's giving it the nutrients and the surroundings that are giving it the body that would come from. And you have a giant tube in which you're growing a person.
Cristina: Are there actual people besides our people that are made that way?
Jack: Humans know, because there's the question of morality and, like, ethics. Like, is this horribly wrong to do this? Is that a human, Are we all going to h*** type of s***?
Cristina: Yeah. What? I feel like scientists will still do it. I mean, I guess we wouldn't know about it if they did.
Jack: Yeah. We wouldn't really have, like, a giant hold on that.
Cristina: Scientists are so sketchy. It's not right.
Jack: I mean, there's crazy scientists all over the place.
Cristina: But, like, the other test tube babies that we were talking about, the one that's not. What is it? The one that they're in a thing, and then you put it back into the mom.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: The first lady that had that. They didn't even tell her that she was gonna be the first lady to have that procedure, which people question the morals of that of just, like, we don't know if this is gonna be successful, but, I mean, they're not telling her that we don't know that this is gonna be successful because we've never done this.
Jack: What'd she think she was in the hospital for?
Cristina: Well, she knew what she was doing, but she didn't know that she was the first doing it.
Jack: Oh, they made it seem like it was figured out.
Cristina: Yeah. So that's even questionable.
Jack: Everything scientists do is questionable. That's the part we should be questioning the least, I guess.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like, every request. You got to be sketchy to be a scientist.
Cristina: You know, you just have to be.
Jack: You have to be.
Cristina: You have to be. Whoa. I don't understand. Why are they so sketchy?
Jack: I don't know. But in these test tubes do have the ability to do so many things, and it's. It makes sense. Like, for example, you know, that factually, the test tube can grow the human body because we've grown human body parts inside the test tube.
Cristina: But why would someone want to do this when they don't want to keep their child?
Jack: Well, they wouldn't have an option. It's not a choice you're making. You can choose to not have the baby yourself. You don't choose whether the baby lives or not. The baby will live here. The baby has rights.
Cristina: Yes, but who has the baby?
Jack: The mother had the baby.
Cristina: No, not the mom. When she abandons this baby.
Jack: Oh, I'm assuming this would become property of the government.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it would just become a citizen after they're born.
Cristina: All right. The government will take care of this baby?
Jack: Not literally take care of the baby, but they would be put through systems that would allow people to adopt them.
Cristina: How often are children adopted versus how many are not adopted?
Jack: I don't know. I haven't the slightest clue.
Cristina: Because, like, is there a very slim chance this child will actually be adopted?
Jack: There might be, but also, like, this is the future of government employees as well.
Cristina: You mean, like, they're just gonna hire these test tube babies?
Jack: Yeah, they're gonna be raised in facilities by the government, understand the entire workings of the government in intricate ways, and be able to work these jobs.
Cristina: Like our test tube babies.
Jack: Yeah. But it's kind of awesome that we've grown. We've grown weird things, though. We grew a p****.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah. Inside of a test tube.
Cristina: Who?
Jack: Like, there's a scientist that they grew a p****.
Cristina: Ah.
Jack: Scientists decided that was a pressing issue.
Cristina: Was it for someone?
Jack: Probably. I didn't. I didn't look into the details of why they grew a p****. I was.
Cristina: Was it attached to a rat? Is it like that south park episode? Is that how they got that episode idea?
Jack: Well, the. The subject, yes. I don't know if that was grown on rat, but I do know the ear was. So it's possible there was a rat with a p**** growing on it. That might be real.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh. What?
Jack: D***. So can't find where this thing was grown.
Cristina: But they were penises grown, and they put them on rabbits. That's amazing.
Jack: Yep. So they grew them for the rabbits.
Cristina: Yeah. But they want to grow them for humans? Eventually, yes.
Jack: Because for humans, they're saying that in about five years, those are going to be Ready?
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Like, what was happening with the rabbits? Were they injured before? Or did they injure the rabbits? Or did they, like, replace their perfectly fine privates for new privates? I'm guessing no. Right. They wouldn't be.
Jack: That's probably the. And I can't just be for experimentation sake. It has to be to help them reproduce somehow. It's the only way they could justify doing it, you know?
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, that's probably.
Jack: But it is planned for humans, and humans will receive for specific humans at first, I'm assuming. Eventually, when it becomes easy, it'll be for anybody who wants to get bigger d***, smaller d***, you know, wider d***, whatever the f***, Remove d***.
Cristina: Add a d*** one to their nose.
Jack: Yeah, whatever the f*** they want to do. Yeah. It's interesting because they use a cell. They remove a cell from the donor, you know, wherever they're going, and get the tissue or whatever.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: To create, like, support structure. And then with the patient's own cell, it gets placed onto the. Some sort of a thing. It gets put on a thing, and.
Cristina: This thing turns into a p****.
Jack: Well, yeah, yeah. Basically, they use that thing to then mold the p****.
Cristina: Yeah, but it's in a test tube or something.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a weird, complicated mess.
Cristina: It's weirder than the babies, because the babies aren't being. Nothing's being added to the baby.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's what's interesting, right? So we got fallopian tubes and brains and kidneys and lungs and stomachs and vaginas and esophagus ears and penises being grown. We could grow all the parts of a human. We can make a Frankenstein that's like super Frankenstein instead of this. Like, a bunch of people died. No, nobody ever died. This wasn't even a living person. We can, like, lab. Grow a homunculus.
Cristina: But we don't want to do that.
Jack: We can. Who says we don't want to do that?
Cristina: I mean, sciences want to do that, but people don't want that to happen.
Jack: But look, if we do this and we emulate a full functioning human brain, set it at, like, six months of age, and we get a whole body made in parts that we get to function together. They're made to function together, but they're.
Cristina: Like different people's bodies.
Jack: There's no. Oh, yeah. I guess tissue from them is used to grow this. But they all have to be compatible to some degree.
Cristina: That sounds.
Jack: Or I guess it could be the same person's tissue over and over.
Cristina: No, but then it wouldn't be a Frankenstein.
Jack: It's different parts.
Cristina: The bodies are actual. Set girls separately.
Jack: All the parts of the body are grown separately.
Cristina: That's horror.
Jack: And then brought together.
Cristina: How would that work?
Jack: They would have. They would be made using the same DNA. They would have to work.
Cristina: You're saying like the head is going to be in one thing?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: And then the heart is going to be somewhere else.
Jack: Over here. Yeah. And then usually like you compose it. The surgery probably has to be done inside of some sort of fluid.
Cristina: I don't see that working.
Jack: But let's say we. Look, we're eventually going to figure out the tech well enough to figure this out. And then we're going to make a human.
Cristina: I don't. Different. I don't know why we would do this.
Jack: Because. Just reasons. Listen, we have this baby and the baby grows up. But what does that tell us about consciousness?
Cristina: We don't have one.
Jack: Like it's made up. Right? Because we made some s***. Unless that person is soulless. Doesn't really feel or see anything. But how do we prove that?
Cristina: I don't know. It tells us.
Jack: It could. I could say that.
Cristina: What? That you're not conscious?
Jack: Yeah. I could truly believe it. Anybody could just truly believe that, I guess.
Cristina: Well, how many people do truly believe that?
Jack: I don't know. Does anybody believe they don't have a rich internal world?
Cristina: I don't think so. You think there's someone out there that's like.
Jack: Nah, I don't know. But maybe they would say that anyways. We don't know they'd be wrong. But maybe they do believe it.
Cristina: Yeah. You know, I still think. I don't know why anyone.
Jack: Because reasons. Worrying about the wrong thing.
Cristina: It's. That's a very good question though because like you could already make a person full if you couldn't figure out how to do that. Then I guess it makes sense to do separately and hope that together it will work out. If you can already do it completely in the first try.
Jack: Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's think about this then. So it doesn't make sense to grow the pieces separately because you're right. You could just grow the baby whole and genetically alter every step of the way to get the eye color you want and get like remove diseases you don't want and s***, all that stuff. But. But you're modifying human DNA. Let's say you wanted to make this baby like super something.
Cristina: I want it solace. How do we do it?
Jack: Well, that's probably by default. But like, you want to merge this person with a lizard. Now, you can splice the DNA and have, like. They're gonna have a lizard tail, but I want them to have cat ears or some.
Cristina: No one's gonna do this.
Jack: This is in the future. This is totally gonna be happening the same way. Right now it's normal to paint your hair, like, super bright, impossible colors and walk around and, like, the same way. That probably against the hair color thing, too. And behind tattoos, people covered in tattoos now, when. Before that was frowned upon.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know, we thought those people were killers and murderers and, like, there's no way everybody would have tattoos. A killer and a murderer. That's crazy.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So this is gonna happen one way or another in the future. We're gonna be able to do this s***, and somebody's gonna be like, I want to be.
Cristina: This should be wrong, though, because that's. Your child. Shouldn't be able to turn your child into a monster.
Jack: Why is anybody trying to turn your child into a monster?
Cristina: You gave it lizard tail and cat ears.
Jack: I get. No, you're making whatever, like, creature you want, basically.
Cristina: It's wrong.
Jack: Why is it wrong?
Cristina: That's just, like, it's not gonna be happy.
Jack: How do you know? All it knows is that it's gonna.
Cristina: Think it's a freak.
Jack: Why? It's. That's its normal thing. And it wouldn't even be the only one of it. There would be a bunch of.
Cristina: When it starts, it will be the only one of it. Yeah, but then it will kill itself.
Jack: No, not all of them.
Cristina: If it was the only one.
Jack: No. Why would it. Eventually one's gonna be like, I'm so unique. I'm glorious, or something. You know, there's no blanket personality for these things.
Cristina: It's horrifying. It's horrifying. You can't do that.
Jack: You can. Why not? They'll be eventually to be normalized, and it's not even weird.
Cristina: I don't know. It's one thing to do that to yourself, but to do that to someone else, that's.
Jack: This person wouldn't even exist without you doing this thing. The creature that you invent only exists because you decided it. You willed it into existence.
Cristina: Well, you're a monster.
Jack: Why? You created life. You are God.
Cristina: You do that to yourself, you get yourself a lizard tail and cat ears.
Jack: Right? But you can also create a creature that is your homie.
Cristina: No, it's wrong.
Jack: What's wrong about it? You can't just say it's wrong because.
Cristina: They didn't want that.
Jack: That's like. Then we should. Then every baby should be aborted.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because they did not ask to be born.
Cristina: Well, they probably would say that once they turn 18. They're like, why did you have me? Every child does.
Jack: Yeah, but who cares? The idea is we allow that, so we gotta allow the other thing. Makes perfect sense. There's no difference. You're still making life in both cases.
Cristina: I don't know. One feels a little more accidental than what you're saying. No.
Jack: You can plan to get pregnant, I guess.
Cristina: Yes. But you don't plan on the child, though, of what it's gonna turn out.
Jack: Yeah, there's designer babies. That's a real thing. We genetically alter babies.
Cristina: Turning them into animals.
Jack: You're not turning them into an animal. That would just be an animal. You're creating whatever thing you want.
Cristina: How could they be happy like that?
Jack: I don't. You don't know anything else? Does your dog question why it's a dog? The f***?
Cristina: I don't know. Maybe my dog does.
Jack: And it's like, f***, I should have been a cat, bro.
Cristina: I didn't choose my dog to be a dog or anything. I didn't. I wasn't involved in.
Jack: I don't understand why being involved in the process is bad.
Cristina: I don't know. It is bad. It's like the train, the trolley thing. You don't want to do the thing.
Jack: What? You don't want to do this?
Cristina: I don't want to do the thing.
Jack: No, you don't have to do anything. I'm just making you create a creature.
Cristina: But people creating creatures, that's just why.
Jack: You could make, like a Pikachu.
Cristina: This is from your child. This is your child you're turning into Pikachu.
Jack: I mean, at this point, you can make whatever. You can make a pet. I don't care.
Cristina: You can make it out of your child, though, because you don't want it or. No, this is just.
Jack: Well, no, I'm just saying you can grow whatever the f*** you want.
Cristina: Why in pieces?
Jack: I mean, it is worse because you need to. I mean, I guess you could splice in the right quantities to create, like, a Pikachu.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Think about how horrifying a Pikachu. Like, its shape is so unnatural.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It would be real scary in real life.
Cristina: It's. I don't. I don't even know what it's supposed to look like. Is it a raccoon? It has a raccoon body, I think. I think it looked kind of like raccoon shape the body? Yeah. You know, raccoons are pretty fat and round. Yeah, it's got a raccoony body, but I don't know about its ears.
Jack: Kind of behaves like a raccoon, too.
Cristina: I guess it'll be like, raccoon body, fox face.
Jack: No, I don't know what the f*** He's.
Cristina: The ears. I mean, what would the. What would make those ears?
Jack: I don't know. But it's still with you. You're just mixing existing animals. It's just gonna be weird. Chimera.
Cristina: Isn't that weird? Like, how else would you do it?
Jack: No, you alter. It'd be like creating a character with a series of sliders. You know, instead of. You click the different options of fox.
Cristina: Click.
Jack: And then it's like part fox or click bat. And then it's just part bat.
Cristina: Yeah. So you're not doing that.
Jack: You're not doing that. You have like a nose slider, and then you move it up or down. The nose gets longer or shorter and you move left and right and it gets wider or thinner.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so you just f*** with everything like this.
Cristina: There's no way you can do that.
Jack: Until you build a Pikachu.
Cristina: Until you build a Pikachu. Those. The ears are just too impossible. No, the tail is impossible.
Jack: What's more impossible, Horses have those ears.
Cristina: I mean, the tail, though.
Jack: What, the shape.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: That's f****** nuts. I don't know what's going on with its tail.
Cristina: No, you can give it a pigtail. No, we're not using animals. But a pig has a really strange tail.
Jack: Yeah, but it's not that tail that Pikachu has. Pikachu has a weirder tail.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It could probably have the color scheme, but I don't think the shape would be possible.
Cristina: I don't think so. Like, how would it stand? Does it stand up? Like, is it dragging on the floor? If you got it that shape, like, how would it lift it? Because it looks heavy. Maybe not.
Jack: Maybe it's super light.
Cristina: It's thin in the bottom and then gets heavier on top.
Jack: Yeah, it's.
Cristina: It's gonna be dragging that towel.
Jack: Maybe there's a lot of fur there, like a. Like a fox.
Cristina: Like a fox. But the fox's tail is, like, big in the bottom and then small on top.
Jack: It's not like it's pretty uniform. It is expand, stays consistent for a while, then shrinks back again.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Well, the towel is ridiculous. The Pikachu toe. But they making things. And why would you want to just do the body parts and then put it together. That's just weird.
Jack: I don't know, man. Because I guess that's pointless as h***. I guess that's more for emergency scenarios, right?
Cristina: More out of your own curiosity.
Jack: No. Like a guy's d*** got cut off by his girlfriend and she threw it off the bridge. And it's like, we couldn't find your d***, man. It's like, grow a d*** stat. We need a d*** here. And then they bring you an iced d***. Somebody stitches the ice d*** to you, and many years later, you're telling your son about why you got a robot d*** that was growing.
Cristina: It's not robot d***.
Jack: Android d*** grown in a lab. It's an Android d***.
Cristina: Why is it an Android d***?
Jack: Because it's invented in a lab. Humanoid. It's all biological.
Jack: But it's artificial.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's an Android d***.
Cristina: So we will never have to need. We need multiple body parts to make it human. But, like, if a person, I don't know, went through a fire, lost a bunch of their body parts through that or some crazy thing, then you would make a bunch of different things for them. But the important things are there already that you don't need to make. Like their brain and their heart, hopefully. Like things that will keep them alive.
Jack: Yes, yes. Yes. You'd make everything else.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because you couldn't. Like, what would be the. No, but then again, you could still grow a heart.
Cristina: You can still grow a heart.
Jack: You can't.
Cristina: It's a brain. That brain is complicated.
Jack: No. Because you can't replicate memories. We don't know how to do that.
Cristina: No. So almost everything can get replaced.
Jack: We can replace mostly everything.
Cristina: Yes. But I don't think you could do anything with the brain.
Jack: No. The brain is unique.
Cristina: Yeah. So no test tube brains.
Jack: I think the alternative would be for them to have technology as advanced as things like the Illuminati has and the Chinese collective and all this stuff in which you could just clone an entire human. But the difference is, it's kind of amoral, the way that done here in which you gotta get rid of a living person who is cloned from the person you're gonna sacrifice this person for, to give them organs and stuff. So it's like I grew a whole clone. I got a clone. I was cloned and I got lung cancer and my lungs are f*****. Well, that clone is gonna lose his f****** lungs.
Cristina: Yes. That's kind of disturbing.
Jack: Yeah. Because if the clone is a person.
Cristina: Wouldn'T it Be easier just to do the body parts. Why do a whole point?
Jack: Because the clone would already immediately have all the parts. As opposed to needing something specific and having to worry about it. You just have a clone that has all the parts. The best outcome would be to grow a mindless clone.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You do something that's. It's just a hollow shell in a medical bed growing. And it's always the age of the person.
Cristina: It's disturbing that they don't do that.
Jack: It's weird, right? More disturbing that they allow them to be conscious.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But yeah, it should definitely be mindless clones.
Cristina: Yes. That's so disturbing. Because you know what you're, what you're made for. Unless they don't tell you. Did you know?
Jack: No. All of us are just there to replace our owners or whatever the person were cloned from.
Cristina: But if they had lost something, they would have taken it from you.
Jack: Yeah, I guess.
Cristina: Did you know that?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay, you're cool with that?
Jack: Yes. The first dog in the United Kingdom's grown was a dog named Winnie. And he was a clone and he was grown inside of a test tube. It was £60,000 to run the experiment and get it done. But yes.
Cristina: Is that a lot?
Jack: Dog was fully test tubed.
Cristina: How much was that?
Jack: £60,000.
Cristina: Sounds heavy.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What does that translate to?
Jack: That's like 80 grand, 90 grand, something like that.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So like a person wanted their dog cloned or grown. Just a grown dog. Yeah.
Jack: There was a 12 year old dog named Winnie and it was cloned.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it was in a test tube the entire time. It's from Korea. South Korea. Seoul was in Seoul that this happened.
Cristina: Well, that they did the test tubing thing.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Then they gave it to the person in a different country. That was happening because they're not using pounds, are they?
Jack: I guess. Yeah. There's something happening there that is like an experiment in England taking place in Seoul. So like a British guy probably using a facility. Kind of like that guy who created the Camara in China, but he was a Mexican or something.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Just going wherever. They let me do this.
Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty cool. I wonder how long that dog lived.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: And did he do the same thing to it after it ran out of life?
Jack: No, you can't, you can't clone a clone. It's like copying a page and then copying the page. You copy that, you got the copy.
Cristina: Still have like how long could DNA, I guess exist from the previous dog to make more clones of it even after it died or Is that not possible?
Jack: You could keep using the DNA from the original dog. That's something you could do. You could freeze a bunch of them.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then keep pumping the same dog out.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: But it would never really be the same dog.
Cristina: No, of course. No, it's impossible.
Jack: No, but it would be like, Air Bud is all really the same dog, cloned over and over.
Cristina: That's what's happening in those Air Bud movies.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Every earbud is a clone. Yeah, but isn't that interesting to do the different sports, though?
Jack: What?
Cristina: The earbuds. Like, they do different sports. One of them is a basketball player, one of them does baseball.
Jack: Yeah, maybe. Maybe. This is all like the test that you're running trying to figure out what, how humanoid can we make this dog while it retains its sport? Can we make dog like abilities in dog shape?
Cristina: Wonder if they've done a golf version of it.
Jack: That would be crazy entertaining to watch.
Cristina: What? I don't know. It's still goth.
Jack: So he's. He's essentially some really complicated level of experiment, you know, because it's like we're not going to splice two different genetic codes together and create a chimera between the human DNA and the dog DNA. This is purely dog DNA.
Cristina: We're not doing Scooby Doo.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. We're not creating Scooby Doo. We're cloning this dog and in its infant embryo phases, going to genetically modify it to increase certain areas, allowing us to give it more humanoid traits without it losing its physical structure and its dog behavior. But we're going to increase its intellect so it's better than a dog and modify its body so it looks the same but performs better than a dog and allows it to do more human like things. And so they test it a bunch.
Cristina: Of different ways, but it's all sports related.
Jack: Well, sports are a great way to test physical, like, motor functions, you know, It's a great way to test out motor functions. So it makes total sense that they would put the super dog, super genetically enhanced super soldier equivalent dog to do a bunch. Bunch of sports in the sea.
Cristina: So it's one dog doing all these sports. Because I thought it was like, different dogs.
Jack: It's different dogs. Oh, these are all tests. And there have probably been many dogs doing the same sports.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's just a bunch of different tests they run with the clones of this one, which is kind of Star Warsy. There was one dude that all the clones were cloned from originally.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And there were millions of them. Billions, in fact, of soldiers all cloned from Jango Fett.
Cristina: Oh, wait, okay. I don't even know the character's name.
Jack: Yeah, it's Jango Fett and Boba Fett or Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet's a Pokemon. Boba Fett, yeah, some s*** like that. But Jango Fett, he. Everybody was cloned from him. All the clones. The entire clone army was Jango Fett originally.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And later they added DNA.
Cristina: They added DNA?
Jack: Yeah. Then they were to increase diversity and make better soldiers.
Cristina: Oh, did he know about that? Did he volunteer?
Jack: He volunteered for the clones that were just like him. But he was gone by the time that other s*** started to happen.
Cristina: Is he like Snake? The snake do that?
Jack: He's a bounty hunter.
Cristina: No, I mean with the cloning thing. Like the snake know about the snakes?
Jack: Oh, yeah. Well, he. Yeah, they do.
Cristina: What?
Jack: They all know. He lives where they are. They train.
Cristina: Boba Fett or Snake.
Jack: Jango Fett lives where the clones are trained and made.
Cristina: What about Snake? I'm saying, does he know about the other snakes?
Jack: Yeah. Okay, well, not at first, but he finds out about them little by little.
Cristina: Okay, but those. They didn't ask him or anything. There was no permission given. They're just like, we're just gonna clone.
Jack: You for Big Boss. I'm not entirely sure. He might have volunteered.
Jack: Big Boss and the boss.
Cristina: The clones are from them too?
Jack: Yeah, I believe so. I don't think it's literally clone if they have two parents, but they might be literal clones as well.
Cristina: Because I thought they were literal clones.
Jack: Yeah, I think they're literal clones. Somehow the boss is included in there. I don't know how, though.
Jack: Something about her happened to be involved. I don't know how. Yeah, but we know there was a bunch. Three of them made it. We originally thought only one. Then we found out two. Then we found out three.
Cristina: Okay, so almost the same story.
Jack: Sure. Yes. Identical.
Cristina: Identical.
Jack: Identical stories. Yeah. So we know we. We know we have the ability to grow individuals inside test tubes. There's no reason that we can't do that.
Cristina: Anything. The fear is that we'll make a super army. Is that the fear? I don't know.
Jack: No, it's. The people are being divided by a government that doesn't want us to create test tube babies because they have to sustain the babies afterwards.
Cristina: What's the problem?
Jack: The government wants people to fight over whether abortions should be had or the baby should be alive. Because if you merge both and an Abortion gets had in such a way that the baby stays alive. Well, now who watches the baby? Well, the government has to watch the baby. That's a person.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Meaning they need to keep people distracted so they don't have to take charge and that money doesn't come out of their pocket.
Cristina: Okay, so the government does not want to be.
Jack: The government doesn't. The last thing they want is to have every abortion be something they have to pay for.
Cristina: But then they can have their clone army.
Jack: Yes. They'll have infinite employees.
Cristina: But they're not interested because that's money.
Jack: That's money. But it makes no sense because then they could pay these people that they've trained to basically optimize the job, everything.
Cristina: It's so natural having to grow them. Like, there's gonna be a long time before it pays off. And they're not. Long term.
Jack: Minimum 18 years.
Cristina: Yeah. So they're not looking into the long term benefits. They're like, right now we're going to lose a lot of money.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty. Like, it's not assured. This plan will work out anyways.
Cristina: Yeah. Yes. All the clones are just going to like, run away. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, that sucks. But if we can get over those humps, then we can have test tube babies, bro. We would modify how abortions happen. There's several different methods for abortions, including abortion pills, which is the new. The hip hopping thing. Now, you take a couple of pills throughout the course of a day or two, three days or whatever. F***. And you. You poop out the baby through your v***** hole.
Cristina: Is it still called pooping?
Jack: You poop the baby through your v***** hole.
Cristina: That can't be right. That can't be right.
Jack: What's wrong about saying you pooped a baby through your v***** hole?
Cristina: It's not pooping.
Jack: Define.
Cristina: Pooping involves poop.
Jack: And this baby isn't poop because it's a baby. Not yet.
Cristina: Not yet. I thought it was a baby.
Jack: You're gonna get. You're gonna make it a baby. It's a fetus.
Cristina: But we. What? It's a living thing. Our science explanation of what is life and what is not. It's a living thing.
Jack: Yeah, it's totally a living thing, but it's not poop.
Cristina: Oh, wait.
Jack: We proved poop is living. We proved poop is alive.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay, you know what? This cult with. This has gone too far. This has gone too far. The problem is now we need an episode in which we discuss entirely how poop is Alive so that everybody understand the poop.
Cristina: We already had an episode explaining why poop is alive.
Jack: No, there was a part of an episode where we discussed the fact that poop is alive.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: But poop as a fully living thing, we have to go into great detail now.
Cristina: We have to defend its rights.
Jack: Yes, we got to defend the rights of poop, but that's not what this episode is about. This episode is about the fact that we can in fact have test tube babies for the public, not just for giant high end corporations and organizations. This could be something that the average individual has if they wanted it. If they wanted it. They have to vote it in. They have to vote it in. Somebody who campaigns for like, yes, we can test two babies. If you need an abortion, we support your abortion, but we also support the, the life of the baby. So we're gonna, we've customized how abortions are performed and it's no longer gonna kill the baby in the process. We're gonna extract that fetus, we're gonna throw that fetus in a test tube filled with jelly and all the nutrients to connect an artificial umbilical cord. And that test tube baby is gonna grow into full person. And we're gonna raise it in these facilities where it was gonna learn all the jobs that the government does and how to function like a normal person, go to public schools and stuff to interact with humans.
Cristina: But.
Jack: And we're gonna have immediately hire them when they get.
Cristina: Sure, sure. Except you gotta prove to them that these babies are babies.
Jack: You gotta prove to who?
Cristina: The people getting the abortion because they're convinced that it's not a living thing?
Jack: No, we're now at a point when this is the, the goal is like the, the finish line. The perceived future of this is where it's so normal that you don't have to do that for every case.
Cristina: You have to do what?
Jack: Prove that there's anything alive. It's just commonplace. That would be the goal.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: The end point is it's commonplace because we're fighting both points. Whether or not it's alive doesn't matter. Assume the other people still believe it's alive and keep it alive. So what would the argument.
Cristina: Because the people who think people who are okay with abortion is because they're convinced that it's not alive.
Jack: Yeah, so defined. Then we're gonna take this dead clump of matter and put it in tested.
Cristina: And they're gonna say no, they can't.
Jack: Because we can prove it's alive.
Cristina: I guess the same.
Jack: We can Prove poop is alive.
Cristina: But will they be convinced?
Jack: No, there's no convincing. We can prove this. It's not. I don't mean to, like, persuade you.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Hey, for a fact, that's a living thing.
Cristina: And so is your poop.
Jack: And so is your poop. For a fact. Unquestionably. You don't give a s*** what you think about it. No, I disagree. No, I don't give a f***. Science doesn't give a crap what you think about anything.
Cristina: Mmm. Okay.
Jack: And so this person who's like, no, can't be alive, is like, okay, shut the f*** up. Because we can prove it. We don't care about your conspiracy theories. We're keeping that thing alive whether you like it or not or go to prison.
Cristina: What about the poop? Are we keeping that alive?
Jack: Well, we got a tier system, and poop is at the bottom of it. Okay, we gotta find rights for poop eventually for sure. But the point being, we can do this. This is real, man. We can get these. There's examples again. The sheep, the dog, we've grown body parts inside of. We can do all the things.
Cristina: We can grow.
Jack: The public. The general public has access to this already.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But it's an ethics issue. Yeah, but we put the argument of life and autonomy, of, like, of your body and your choice, and you smash them together and you're like, hey, you guys are complaining about this again. And then you're gonna find out a bunch of these people weren't even complaining about either of those things. They just wanted to argue about something. So when you solve the thing, they're just gonna, like, okay, whatever, go to the next thing.
Cristina: Yeah, but just go to the next thing.
Jack: Yeah, they go find. Okay, whatever. Yeah, that's not a problem anymore. But, like, this floor needs to be brick shaped. No, this floor needs to be circular.
Cristina: What does that even mean?
Jack: I don't know, but that's gonna be the next circular.
Cristina: Circular. Okay.
Jack: Flatter from there.
Cristina: Of course. Of course.
Jack: Yeah. People are freaking out, though, you know, about the whole decision to make abortions impossible. And a lot of states have turned on that and they've like, yeah, s***'s gonna be illegal, bruh. And the states that aren't following that are freaking the f*** out because they're like, crap. Ton of people are gonna be migrating our way to get abortions now because they can't in their own state. So medical facilities are getting braced. They're, like, bracing themselves for this.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: Expecting the wave.
Cristina: And that's a bad thing? I mean, for their business.
Jack: Understaffed for sure.
Cristina: Oh, okay. I guess that makes sense. Yeah.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: That man, the. The other news, I guess is that one lady that said it's for. What was it? White Americans won something today.
Jack: Oh, my God. Yes. The lady who said that this overturning of Roe vs Wade is a victory for white people. It's a win for the white community. Whoa.
Cristina: I don't know. That confuses me. That statement confuses me.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Because it was about morals. It was about.
Jack: Who told you this?
Cristina: Kill a baby because it's a baby puma. Now it's white power.
Jack: When was it not white power? Who have you been talking to?
Cristina: Where did that come from?
Jack: What the what the what? The white power has always been the case, bro.
Cristina: With the babies.
Jack: I don't know. Isn't that why everybody bunches them up into like one group? Republicans are conservatives. As opposed to Republicans and conservatives. The people already bunch all these other groups together. So. Yeah. What's the connecting piece between the conservatives that believe in old school ideologies and tradition and the Republicans that believe in a government with individuals of a higher knowledge being the elect? So you elect people who will then make the decisions, as opposed to a pure democracy where the people directly make all the decisions.
Cristina: Are they in Hawaii?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: It's all whiteness.
Cristina: That's what this has been all about.
Jack: It's always been whiteness, man. Whiteness isn't everything.
Cristina: So it's just that they don't want white baby to die. Right.
Jack: Okay. So white people are the minority. Arguably, they've always been, but whatever. So they're the minority now. Like even on paper. There's no denying it. But here's my logic, right? There was way more slaves then there were slave owners. That's. They had to there. You had to. There's no f****** other way this could play out. There had to be. You needed the slaves to build the society.
Cristina: But how many slave owners were there compared to non slave owner white people who couldn't afford slaves? Like, it's not like every white person could afford slaves.
Jack: Yeah. So interesting, interesting point. So you're saying that there was a crisis when we're just thinking about the 1%.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And them owning slaves. And we're like, oh, there were way more slaves. But then there were like all the other people who didn't own slaves. And it's like there were way more of them than they were even slaves. Maybe. I guess you're right. Totally could have been the case. And in return. So at some point, I guess they were the majority. But as time went by with all the immigrants. Dude, here's why this doesn't work. I follow your logic. Yeah, but it's like you kidnapped a bunch of people and put them on a boat, and then you rode that boat across the ocean, and then you got down and you got these people to build it. You did not have more white people than you had black people at that time. So we're looking way down the line from that point. Right. And we're like, well, the slaves weren't reproducing as often because they were dying out, but the white people were then reproducing way more often. So first it began with more black people, but then slowly white people overpopulated and black people were the minority.
Cristina: But they're using other people as well. It wasn't just black people.
Jack: Interesting.
Cristina: Other immigrants, but how are white people the.
Jack: My. The majority is what I'm trying to figure out, not what other varieties there are.
Cristina: Well, I think by not counting the all, like, variety versus white, it's a lot like if it's just every group is separate. Yes, there's more white people, but if you put all the groups that are not white as one group versus white people, then of course that's the majority.
Jack: Here in the United States.
Cristina: Yes, but that's how it works.
Jack: Not the question. Is that how it worked?
Cristina: Probably, yes.
Jack: I disagree. I think it began with majority were on the boats that showed up what we consider society now.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Happened with a group of people who kidnapped and enslaved a bunch of Africans, brought them to the United States, then made them build society. At the beginning there was. The majority was black, and those were the slaves that built society. But they were also reproducing way less. They had less time for that. They were malnourished. They had a bunch of things making reproduction difficult. While white people, though they didn't all own slaves. The ones who didn't and the ones who did were still reproducing at faster rate than the black people, thus eventually becoming the majority. Not immediately in the 17th, 1976 period and forward, but maybe in the early or mid-1800s, there was an overtaking number where the white people became vast majority because they're over producing. They're over. Yeah, they're reproducing quickly while the black people are still, like, picking up. They're picking up momentum.
Cristina: What's the timeline? What's the timeline of when the first immigration white people came to America versus when they started bringing Other people over to america.
Jack: Well, by 1776. Right. That's like when crap hit the fan and we made the United States sign the thing in United States of America. Ten states or whatever. So there was people there here before then? Yes, before the Constitution was signed. I don't know how long in. Could be 50 years, could be 100 years. Saying early 1700s is when like 1703 or some s*** like that is when they first popped up or some crap. And in fact, let's actually confirm this. We can get this information. Jesus Christ. I was so far off the mark. I was thinking a hundred years between not even 70 years. If you say early 1700s to 1776, when we signed the Constitution. But the arrival of Christopher Columbus was f****** 1492.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we round up and say the 15 hunt, the 1500s right there on the mark.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Between then and the time we signed the freaking bill was almost 300 years.
Cristina: That's a lot of time for white people to reproduce.
Jack: There's a lot of time from when they were minority to them being majority before we even officialized the country.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then later gave rights and allowed freedom of motion to black people more consistently because the United States was already made, the union existed. That's when we were finally allowing them to be individuals and thus be healthy and thus be able to reproduce and have children that survive.
Cristina: More white people than there were black people.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes. Because this is the starting point of them having that freedom to move more easily, which is in the 1800s or some s***. Right. So, yeah, the Revolutionary War, but it began blacks primarily, then quickly was overtaken by whites because they have better freedom of motion. We're not slaves. We might be poor, but we can still eat and do this and do that and have kids. Your kids. Black slaves will die or starve or be enslaved until they die, you know. So again, started off majority black because we took more black people and we needed to.
Cristina: There's not more black people.
Jack: You think the boat Christopher Columbus was on had more white people than black people?
Cristina: Yes, I think that was later on. I think they did a lot of things without black people for a long time, and then they brought in black people. I don't know if the timeline is as close as you think it is.
Jack: Interesting, interesting. You don't believe. Oh, I guess. You don't believe Christopher Columbus had slaves on the boat?
Cristina: No, no.
Jack: Fascinating.
Cristina: You think he did?
Jack: I think he did.
Cristina: Well, I guess he did. But not the slaves that you were thinking.
Jack: Well, yeah, actually both. Because he Took slaves at different times.
Cristina: But those are Hispanic slaves.
Jack: The Hispanics didn't exist yet.
Cristina: Oh, what is Taino?
Jack: Tainos.
Cristina: Those are the Native Americans. Okay. It was mostly Native American slaves.
Jack: Native Americans on the Puerto Rican island. Those are Tainos.
Cristina: All right, Then that's where slavery started in America, at least. Well, we started with Native Americans. Who knows how long after that, like, they had to die off. And then they were like, let's bring in these other people who are much stronger and can survive more.
Jack: Yeah, yeah.
Cristina: So it couldn't be right away. It's not like they immediately died off the slaves that they had. The Native American slaves.
Jack: Okay. Okay. So the first slaves they got, you think that out of the 1500 of them, there was more than 1500 white Spaniards aboard? Is that the belief here? They have in however many fleets of boats? 1500 tainos. And you're like, well, they clearly had way more than 1,500 people aboard those boats. This is the argument you're making with me. No, they had, like, white people, larger numbers in 1500. It didn't. When they got to the United States. What's now the United States? When they finally.
Cristina: I don't know how much people they had.
Jack: Well, no, this is just. If you're. What you're telling me is, yes, the white people were the majority from the beginning.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay. That means.
Cristina: Well, from the black people that they bring in later. That's what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the Native Americans. Of course there was more Native Americans, but eventually the Native Americans died off. But that means.
Jack: My argument isn't about black people specifically. I just thought that the slaves they brought. Oh, my argument is that white people were never at any given moment, the majority.
Cristina: Oh, no, they weren't. But I'm just saying the majority versus the black people that they brought in. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying more than the Native Americans. That's crazy.
Jack: Well, that might still be wrong. You think there was still more black, more white people than there were black people when the black people arrived? Yes, 400. Because they were also 450 years counting back from now. So we do 200 years back from this point. We're in the 1800s, and we do another 200 years back, and we're at the 1600s. They showed up in the 1500s. So there's a whole hundred year gap before the African slaves.
Cristina: When was the African slave trade?
Jack: 1500S, I believe.
Cristina: Are you sure? Okay, then I.
Jack: Let's find out. Wow. Yes, almost 200 years. That almost started in the 1700s. So it really took the block black people to build the country, United States. Not where people were living already, but rather the new version of it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We needed the black people for that.
Cristina: They were using Native Americans, but that didn't work out. So then they got black people, but they also had Chinese people.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: So it wasn't even like one group of people. It was many group of other people.
Jack: Yeah, it was a crap ton of people that were brought in to build the country.
Cristina: Yeah. So that's why I don't think that they overtook them ever. I don't know.
Jack: The white people never became the majority.
Cristina: No, I think they were the majority if they were of the group. If they're bringing in people, they're not bringing in more than they are. I mean, yes, maybe, but like collectively a bunch of different people they brought in. That is probably more than what's here.
Jack: Yeah. It doesn't matter what the groups are. I'm saying the. The white people were never the majority.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And under any circumstance they've never been the majority. There's way more other people than there are white people. Yes, that is the only point I'm making.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: There are way more other people than there are white people.
Cristina: All right. Yes. Yes.
Jack: And that white people like to make themselves seem like they're the majority. And that the reason this way trailing off because the original point was why did the lady say white power? And was it always. Well, again, white people could have. They. There's no way they started as a majority, but maybe they became the majority at some point and then lost that majority. Because again, anybody they have enslaved, not reproducing at the rates they need, that population starts to decline. Thus slaved Chinese people, way minority in the United States. Those people didn't add up to anything. They like there was small numbers. Same thing happens with Native Americans. We dwindled their numbers and the Africans that were here created small, I think in that they couldn't reproduce moment or could. But it was not healthy. Children weren't lasting that kind of thing. White people numerically overtook. Now America is great. We think it's great. It's a big best place ever. White people run this s*** where the majority, they can't f*** with us. But although that took place and many, many, many, many, many, many years happened and collectively they were the minority. I mean they were the majority even over all the other groups put together. So collectively they do. And then as these people fought for their rights and Got them and can start reproducing and black people start populating and Hispanics are populating and all this stuff starts happening.
Cristina: And then white people are not interested in reproducing.
Jack: White people have way less children. Two parents, two children average.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Unless you're particularly hardcore Christians and you got like six kids, you're not messing with Hispanics that come with 10, and blacks that everybody's related to, you know, that's my cousin, brothers. Okay. So huge families in both cases. Hispanics, blacks, huge families. Asians tend to do the same thing that whites do. So that's why their numbers kind of don't multiply at the rate that blacks.
Cristina: But is the abortions affecting the rate of white people being born?
Jack: Well, I don't know, but it seems to be that any saved life that's white is a plus. So whether or not it's a huge impact, if we fight all the little impacts, then collectively we make a huge impact against our slow rate increase and maybe increase our rate more.
Cristina: Not by much at the end of.
Jack: The day, collectively, if you did a little bit here, a little bit there.
Cristina: From different, you're not competing with a person that's having 10 children, though.
Jack: You're not. You're totally not. But also, as these groups get more educated, they also have children later in life and less of them. So black people, Hispanics, we're reproducing at slower rates as time goes by.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's less and less and less. Less children and later in life.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And white people are the ones arguing these points half the time are the ones who didn't go to college and the ones who are starting to have more children. So this is kind of a dynamic switch that's happening. And so it will happen at some point in which they will reproduce more because they're the ones who are gonna be sort of in the hard place. And reproduction is now means of survival as a race.
Cristina: That's weird.
Jack: Yeah, it's weird. But they're gonna be pushed there. It looks like that's just what's happening. Anyways, Anyways. Anyways. Point is, I think test tube babies need to be real for the general public, not just people in extreme levels of power.
Cristina: Not just for the white people.
Jack: Not just for people in extreme levels of power.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: White or not, the top doesn't give a s*** about race. And I think that's a boy. You guys need to know about test tube babies.
Cristina: It's possible.
Jack: We got all the parts. We got all the parts. We just need.
Cristina: We Just need to do test tube Frankenstein.
Jack: That's gonna be lovely. Just for s**** and giggles. Because there's no real practical reason to.
Cristina: Find out if it would have a soul.
Jack: Yeah, we made a chimera, but I guess making. I know, because a clone. That's weird.
Cristina: Is it Frankenstein? A chimera? Did we talk about that already? I don't know.
Jack: Frankenstein isn't a chimera. It's not genetically created that way. A chimera is genetically two parts. Frankenstein is literally different. Stitched things together. That's very different.
Cristina: Then what's the difference? What is happening with the chimera?
Jack: The chimera happened genetically. It happened at a molecular level. You grab things, put them together.
Cristina: Okay, so it's like that child you gave a lizard tail and the character cat ears. He's a chimera.
Jack: Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's a chimera.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But just having different body parts doesn't make a chimera.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: No, you're just a weird thing. Anyways, anyways, I hope you guys have a happy abortion day. Or abortion band day. Is that what happened? A happy abortion band day is somebody's gonna be.
Cristina: Happy July.
Jack: Happy Fourth of July. When's that happening?
Cristina: Monday.
Jack: Monday. Oh, yeah. So happy 4th of July to everybody for.
Cristina: Think about those dead babies.
Jack: Think about those dead babies while you enjoy loud sounds and. No, they're just gonna have flashes of those kids who got, like, popped at that school.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: Yeah. I mean, think about both. It's fine.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Think about the. Yeah, think about the state of the world and how we're over here complaining about we're killing the babies in the stomachs and then complaining that we don't do enough to protect the babies in the schools. And it's like, wait, but how would we get them to the schools if you killed them in the stomach? But let's not worry about that too much. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation we had and you guys are more informed on what test tube babies are. It's Wokeness.
Cristina: Hashtag Wokeness.
Jack: Hashtag wok. Yeah. Anyways, you guys can find the show on all the socials, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, USConvopod.
Cristina: And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.
Jack: Yes. Read it. Review it. All that stuff. Great. Awesome. Totally dope. Unless someone who might like the show know about it. Talk to them about it. Tell them. Tell them. Tell them about Test two babies.
Cristina: Tell them about the news. Everyone's talking about this. It's so annoying. It's Just another one of these.
Jack: Yeah. They're gonna forget about this in a week when Donald Trump goes outside and pops Putin on top of their. What is it called? The. His, like, castle looking thing. Because of the windmills.
Cristina: Oh, because he betrayed him and he found out.
Jack: Because the windmills. Yeah, he's like, you're polluting the air. We're no longer friends. We have to do this on top of the. Your building. Because they can't do it on top of the White House because that's safe for Biden.
Cristina: In a couple years, this has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. Bye. So there is a type of bean that is.
Jack: Comes in a shell. Shell. Like peas.
Cristina: Peas come in a pod. But we're talking about coffee beans.
Jack: No, all beans. But wait. Oh, is a coffee bean a bean?
Cristina: Yes. And it's also covered in a hard shell.
Jack: Okay, what's the difference between a bean and a peanut?
Cristina: I don't know. They taste different. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Dots info, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.
