Rambling 299: Dead CEOs and Chinese Drone

Rambling 299: Dead CEOs and Chinese Drones

In the latest episode of our podcast, we delve into the absurdities that define our current reality, starting with a seemingly innocuous discussion about the medulla oblongata, a part of the brain that sounds as ridiculous as it is crucial. Hosts Jack and Cristina explore how language, particularly in the realm of science, can often be a reflection of deeper truths about the world around us. They break down the origins of scientific terminology, revealing how many terms are built from Latin roots that describe their functions, leading to a fascinating conversation about the elegance of scientific language. However, the episode takes a sharp turn as the hosts pivot to discuss a shocking recent event: the public shooting of a CEO. This incident serves as a springboard for a broader discussion about societal collapse, the rich versus the poor, and the growing unrest among the populace. Jack posits that this event is a reflection of a larger trend, suggesting that we are witnessing the first signs of a societal upheaval where the disenfranchised are taking matters into their own hands. The conversation reveals a deep-seated frustration with the systems that govern our lives, particularly those that profit off the suffering of others. As the episode progresses, the hosts touch on the themes of confusion and misinformation that permeate our media landscape. They discuss the role of government surveillance and the increasing presence of drones in our skies, questioning whether these are tools for safety or instruments of control. The hosts draw parallels between the chaos of recent events and the idea that we are living in an age where truth is often obscured by narratives crafted by those in power. Listeners are invited to reflect on the absurdity of our current reality, where the lines between truth and fiction are increasingly blurred. The episode encourages a critical examination of the information we consume and the societal structures that shape our understanding of the world. With humor and insight, Jack and Cristina guide their audience through the complexities of modern life, leaving them with more questions than answers—an invitation to engage in the ongoing conversation about our shared reality. Tune in to hear the full discussion and join the exploration of what it means to navigate an absurd world. You won't want to miss this thought-provoking episode that challenges the way we think about language, society, and the events that shape our lives.


+Episode Details

  • The CEO Assassination
  • Luigi: Hero or Villain?
  • Public Reaction to Violence Against the Elite
  • The Rise of Drones: Surveillance or Invasion?
  • The State of Society and the Apocalypse
  • The Role of Media in Shaping Perception

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+Transcript

Rambling 299: Dead CEOs and Chinese Drone Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas, which we will definitely do today. But we were just talking about the medubla oblongata and how it sounds ridiculous. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And so I was gonna go and do the most basic surface level. We're gonna trust Wikipedia right now. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And we're gonna see where it came from. The word the. Yeah. Why? It's. Why it's so dumb. Cristina: You think wiki's gonna tell us why it's so, though? Jack: I think so. I think they'll tell us about. Cristina: The word is from someone's name. That's why it's so dumb. Jack: Let's see, let's see. Does it tell us where the word came from? Okay, what if we go to a dictionary or some crap? Cristina: So you're leaving wiki? You just said you were gonna go to wiki. Jack: Then we can't trust wiki. Cristina: No, we can't trust wiki. Jack: Okay, based on how it sounds, where do you think it came from? Cristina: I don't know. Each piece probably means something. Jack: You're right, because. Yeah, yeah. It's not just a science word, but rather it's specifically a medical word. And medical words are built of descriptors that tell us what it means ultimately. Cristina: So I'm gonna guess that. And if it's not that, it's based on someone's name. Jack: Okay. Okay. Cristina: Those are my two guesses. I don't know if I have a third guess. Third guess is, I don't know someone like that name. They had the word first. They're like, what could I make this word mean? Has anyone done that before? You give it a meaning. Like if you had the word cat before you had the animal cat. And then you're like, okay, I'm going to call that thing cat. Jack: Interesting. Interesting. So you're. You're. You're questioning right now how we come across the original idea to name a thing? Cristina: Yes. Jack: Well, the only people we would need to defer to would be, I guess, an inventor. How does an inventor go about naming a thing that didn't exist before, that they have created? And I guess ultimately it comes from previous components that you're aware of. A good example would be the invention of the iPhone. Although it's not the invention of a phone, it's the invention of a computer phone. And he used parts he knew, like the word phone already, and merged it with things. So if we think of that as just the most exaggeratedly basic version of it. Cristina: Like microwave. Jack: Yes, exactly. And it's kind of telling you something about it in a manner, shape, or form. It's using what you already know about the concept. So. Cristina: So at the end of the day, that goes with the first thing guess of what. Why the word is the word. It's just, it's. It's parts. Jack: Yeah. So it breaks down into the following. The medulla means marrow or innermost part. And in. In anatomy, it refers to the central part of an organ or the structure. Medulla. Cristina: Okay. And the rest. Jack: And then oblongata, derived from oblongas, meaning elongated or oblong. And they're both Latin. Cristina: Okay, what's the first one again? Jack: Medulla. Cristina: No, I mean what it means. Jack: It means marrow or innermost part. Okay, so it's the innermost elongated brainstem. Cristina: Okay. And that's what it actually is. Jack: It literally translates to elongated marrow. Cristina: Okay, but that's what it means also, the word. Jack: Yes, the word means elongated marrow. And the brain stem is the elongated marrow and the. Or the elongated marrow part of the brain. Some. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And it's Latin. So it comes from Latin and it means that, so. No, you're totally right. It's just explain a word explaining itself. Yeah, it's just a word. I mean, in science that tends to happen. 00:05:00 Jack: And it makes science one of the most elegant and direct languages. Because even if you have no idea, if you've never heard the word before, you can at least piece the word together. The. The words meaning together just based on what it is, that or how the. Cristina: Word is written, how the word is. Jack: Right, yeah. What went into creating the word. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Is all you need to know what happens in science, what's happening, what that word means a lot of the time, not all the time. Some things are ridiculous. Think what simple concepts like dark and black is used just for anything unknown. And sometimes, I mean, the fun thing is they're not fun thing. But the clever thing is it's always minus the darks and the blacks that are concepts we usually don't know. We slap that on something that has a question mark. The dark side of the moon. Simply because we don't see it, so we're less familiar with it. A black hole. It's because we can't study it. We can't see the inside of a black hole. We can only see its effect on everything minus that Science is a literal language. So literal, a lot of the time they'll just be like, like, Just like that. It's like the elongated brainstem, basically, that's just straight out telling you what it is. Cristina: Why did you choose that word? Jack: I don't know why I said that word, but now we know it came from. It's Latin and it means elongated marrow, which is basically just discussing the part that it's from. Anyways, today we're going to speak about current events that I've wanted to talk about, but we kept getting interrupted. And we're definitely. Cristina: Anymore. Jack: They're not current anymore, but we're still going to talk about them. Nevertheless. People are desperate to know what it is I've been trying to talk about for the last several weeks, but we kept getting sidetracked. But in the time that we have been waiting to discuss that, two very interesting things that we're going to quickly run through happened. And I want to talk about them before we get to this news that I've been trying to talk about. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And the first of the things as is the CEO. Dude. What the. Cristina: I don't really know what happened. I know he died. And I know the person who killed him. His name? Luigi. Jack: Luigi. Well, it's unclear if Luigi act is the guy. Cristina: What? Jack: He's just the guy who got arrested. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: It's unclear if he's the guy who actually did it. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Although, maybe. But the story goes that this guy's mother has some illness and she watched her mother suffer. I don't know if she died. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. His mother was suffering for a very long time, continuously getting turned down by that guy. I guess he got obsessed with the revenge scenario here. And one of the things that people digging around about the guy who got shot is that he runs the insurance company that turns down the most people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And so, yeah, interesting, right? Plot thickens. And so this guy hunted him down and killed him in the middle of street one day. Cristina: What? Jack: Yep. The shot him. Cristina: Okay. Whoa. And then why is he a celebrity now? For that. Jack: Okay. That's where it becomes interesting. And where the darks of the world are taking an interesting turn and where a lot of the things that are happening on earth kind of start to click together. First of all, people are valuing this guy as a hero because he did what a lot of people would do or wish they could. Not what they would do. What a lot of people wish they could do is hit the people who control your lives back for making Your lives s***** and them profiting off of every bit of that. He took that into his hands and really did it. People were like, oh my God. Yes. And he didn't do it selfishly. He did it for his mother. He has. There's paper trail. They know that. What the reasoning is. Cristina: Crazy. Okay. Jack: Now weird chain reaction that's happened is other CEOs are horrified. They've removed their social medias and they have removed their images from their websites from online, from their company things or whatever. These people who love showing off how rich and powerful the are suddenly removing the. The fact that they're rich and powerful from the eyes of other people. Cristina: Yes. I feel like, I don't know if it was this or before this, that there was this meme with Elon Musk covering his body with babies. I don't know if it had to do with this though. Jack: Weird. Cristina: But like he's going to use his children to defend himself against any shooters or something. Jack: It's because after a CEO got shot, the very next image of him, like the very next time 00:10:00 Jack: you see him, he was just always his kid. Cristina: Who? Elon Musk. Jack: Oh, he had a kid with him ever since. Cristina: Oh, that's awful. Okay, yeah. Jack: Interesting. But this brings up an interesting point. And, and it reflects a lot that's going on. So what this is. And a lot of people are kind of noticing it and it's. It goes into people like worshiping this guy and being like this. Do it to the rest of them and all this crazy. It comes down to we just saw one of the first rich be eaten by the poor. And it happened in public for everybody to see and realize, wait a minute. That guy who s**** on everywhere we eat is just like us. He's not a God. A random guy did it. A ra. I'm a rat. You're a random. Wait, we're all random people. That's all it took. Why did I think of him as some other thing? This insurance company did it to my family. It's a weird domino effect. Cristina: So you think this is just the first. Jack: I think we just saw one of the first rich get eaten. And I think like all things, cracks show before the dam breaks. The flood always arrives and somebody always notices and nobody listens to that person screaming, okay. Until the flood arrives. Cristina: So you think, you definitely think this isn't going to be the last time. Jack: I think that we are entering some really horrible state in time where I do. I do believe it's apocalyptic. I've been saying this for a While. And I genuinely do believe we have maybe within a couple of years, 10, 20. Cristina: Think this is a result of that, or this is just proof. Jack: This is more of the ball getting ramped up. We're in the apocalypse. It's been happening for like 20 years. If we were to say, like, when the. When would we think it began? Some point. The last 20 years. The apocalypse began that moment. Not the biblical apocalypse. Although they could say whatever they want. Short lines up. If you think about. And you want it to. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But the end of times as we know it has in fact begun in a logical kind of way, in a measurable kind of way. We see nuclear powers everywhere, all on edge, looking at each other, all wondering which one of us is going to pounce and take the rest of them. Yeah, we're one world government is going to happen. Which one of us is going to be. And it's that tension. Everybody's armed. If somebody slips up, we all die. Cristina: Mm. Jack: So when it happens, it's going to be a clean sweep. And everybody thinks they're the one who's going to do it. They're the one who has it figured out. Somebody makes a wrong move, we all die. Cristina: Yes, but it's gonna happen soon. Jack: Yeah, exactly. It's either gonna. One dude is gonna do it right, or it's rap. It's the end. We're here. I think we're reaching the great filter that scientists speak of. This thing that, like, why don't we see civilizations in space? It should be filled with them. We should be in. We shouldn't be able to escape seeing them all the time. And it's because maybe life happens everywhere, but there's some thing, some hurdle that happens sociologically or scientifically or something that stops you from making it. Nuclear power is dangerous. We are all so armed enough that if we launched everything, we could clean out the Earth. We have enough, and we've got it aimed in enough of a spread that even the places we don't hit are gonna be covered off and everything is gonna be snowing an ice ball for a long time. It's f***** either way. Nukes drop, everybody goes. Cristina: Everybody goes. Jack: Everyone goes. There's no solution to it. Everyone goes. And. Yeah, no, that's crazy. It's. I do think we're in that. And if we assume in the last 20 years that ball got rolling, then the George Floyd riots that spread out across the world, they spread out across the world. It wasn't just the United States. It was a country started. Yeah. Any country with Black people that felt oppressed rose up. It was riots in places. Cristina: And are people going to be rioting or are they writing for this? No, I don't know. Jack: I know. Think about the thing that happened with the Capitol. Was it rushed? Was it not? Did people incited that they. Not the moment. So impactful. The world knows about it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And it's this sort of 00:15:00 Jack: bubbling. It's slowly. The heat has been kind of. You see the water shaking, but it wasn't bubbles. And now we're seeing one here, one over there. Eventually that s***'s gonna boil, and that's when the s***'s hitting the fan. Right? And we're just seeing the first bubbles. This guy was the first bubble. It was the first crack on the. D*** it. We're seeing signs of whatever that first domino was. Either Trump getting elected, either the Twin Towers getting it. Either the first black president being chosen, either the queen dying. Something happened somewhere. Cristina: I think this is gonna be a new normal, horrible thing. Like the school shootings that keep happening. Jack: School shootings have happened within this time. It's not ex. Yeah, that's just that the school shootings is another part of it. We had rarities of one case here, then five years later, another case over there at some point. Three, four a year. Yeah, you just hear about it all the time. You're like, oh, yeah, another school shooting. Schools just have protocols now. They just teach your children. If a shooting happens, what you do, it's like, what the. How. How is that normal? Cristina: I don't know. But is this the next thing like that? Jack: It is. What? Cristina: Is this the next thing like that? Jack: I think there are a couple of things and this is one of them. Yeah, I think maybe not like that. I mean, I don't know. That's. Can you imagine if every other day. Cristina: But I think shooting and at the sea, some CEO. Jack: Yeah, well, I think not necessarily the shooting of a CEO, but there is a. Now that we talking about it. And it came to my mind and it has happened before. Not the shooting of the CEO. No, no, no. The mocking of the dead. Because it happened with the submarine. Those rich guys. That was the mentality everybody had, those rich guys. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And this happened again. And now. Yeah, that rich guy. It didn't. I didn't connect those two dots until this very moment. Cristina: But there is something there. Jack: There's something there. It's people like, yeah, see, that's the mentality. You can see people like, nah, it let it happen. Whatever them. It's like, d***, bro, that was Still a person, ultimately. But no. The mentality has shifted them. Let it happen. Let them all go through it. Whatever. I hope more go underwater and sink. And it's like, okay, you guys are getting going some dark place. Cristina: Mm. Jack: But it's not dark if it's normal. That's just where the people are. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You understand? That's the problem. Because if it's dark, other people are gonna be like, no, no, no, don't go there. The problem is everybody's in on it. It's not dark. Cristina: It's not dark. Jack: It's just where the people are. Dark is down from where you are. Everybody's in the same spot. That's just normal. That makes this normal. Everybody's on board. Every time it happens, everybody's on board. This is the second instance. Just as many people on board. Like, yeah, it. Okay, can't wait to hear about the next one. I mean, think about how messed up it is when they tried to hit the president. How many bastards online were like, well, next time, don't miss. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Think about how messed up that is. People are disconnected. They're down for it. Those are. Those are the cracks. We're seeing one here, one over there. They look unrelated. Oh, that kid was doing tricks against the d*** wall, and he was always hitting the same spot. He was there for months, always trying to land the same trick. Obviously, that's a crack from that. And that's crack over there is from when Mike hit it with the golf cart. He got it up here somehow. I don't know how he got it on the dam, but then he hit the wall, and that's why it's there. Unrelated cracks. There's nothing to worry about. That's happening with every instance. Oh, unrelated. No, this was the president, and he's. He is Hitler. Yeah, it's unrelated. That has nothing to do with it. Well, no, this guy's mom was going through the thing, and he was directly affected. That's unrelated. Jack: But is it. The reaction is the same every time. Is it unrelated? Maybe what's causing the moments is. Cristina: Yeah, but people's reaction. Jack: People's reaction isn't unrelated. That's just where we are. That's not unrelated. That's where we all are. Why? Weird. Interesting. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: And I think we're watching the dominoes fall. Very. Some mad metaphors. All the metaphors in the world. Is it a dam? Is it bubbling? Is it dominoes? Is it a snowball? Cristina: I don't know. It's the ending of Fight Club. Jack: Yes. Yes. We're watching Project Mayhem leave narrator's control, where he can't even realizing he's Tyler Durden. Tell the 00:20:00 Jack: guys, hey, guys, no, we can stop this. Look, I'm telling you to. And they were like, no, you told us that if. That if you tried to stop us. You're not you. You're some other you. It's like, oh, f***. I prepare for everything. This is totally out of my control. And, like, I think humanity is somewhere. I mean, dude, France has been in a war with itself. Cristina: This kind of makes sense because, like, if the government is secretly controlling everything, and then we're reacting this way because, like, we see that it's all fake anyway. Jack: That's the other problem. Oh, my God. Cristina: So why should we care? Jack: You bring up an interesting point. Because. Okay, I was just about to mentioning France right now. Right. With your point in mind. Well, that's what they show us. And why would they show us something they didn't want us to see? Cristina: If we know it's all fake, if the reactions these people are having aren't real, Especially the people telling the story, these journalists. Jack: It's all fake. So even. See, if I didn't see it myself, then the question would be somebody, maybe no CEO got hit. Maybe this is. This was the point of directing the mentality somebody is orchestrating. Somebody's out there with. With a little stick in a suit, standing over the planet, swinging his little stick and moving his hands around like we're an orchestra and we're slowly but surely being manipulated into states. There's a guy who's like, I want to be the only rich guy. I don't want to start having people eat rich people. Let's just make it normal water. The idea, though, is that then the. The concept here. Because everything is even the concept of the. Because they're not gonna show us things that are gonna make us think this. Either we broke through, which is possible. Social media is definitely a pain in the a** of people who liked lying. Or is it not? And that's also part of the illusion. Cristina: You think? Jack: No, maybe there can. I have entered states where I contemplate whether anything I've seen on the Internet was ever a real thing. How do we know? Even think about the concept of friends you've never met. Some people have messaged with individuals their whole lives that they've never heard their voice. How is that person real? Now, let's assume that what we know about the technology we have and our government held up always. Then 20 years ago, when The Internet began. That's just our introduction to it, because we know in the 60s, the Internet was created. Simple. But most people have no concept of this easel. Easy, easy to find. But most people are. Oh, the Internet began late 90s, early 2000s. Right. Assuming that's the logic, would they have equally by the beginning of us having the Internet, they have had all the tools already in place to control us and manipulate us. Since day one, it's always been there. It developed with that there. Obviously, if I wanted to message you because I've met you, there's also direct connection with the few people who are actually using the thing. Everybody else is spinning in the wheel, and nothing is real. Most of us are interacting with AI through AI for AI. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And I can still connect to you through the sea of AI and people around me are real. But we're all being manipulated by this one AI that's pretending to also be these other people who we've never seen, never met. And there's no way to do it. There's a few real people out there, but they would never want to. The fake ones would never want to really meet me. Oh, I can't because of this and blah, blah, blah. No, I'm living my life down there and whatever. Mm, interesting. So most of what you've always seen, forever, the entire time you've been interacting with the Internet, fake. The same way every newspaper that came out could have completely been fabricated stories meant to manipulate and sway your thought. You have no way of proving. No way of proving it. If the. Let's assume the newspaper was that the whole time. Maybe not the whole time. It was really about giving news. Little by little, power was taken from the newspaper somehow. Like a. Like a Facebook being influenced by the government and bending them somehow. Just like that, this happens. You have hands coming in from behind and slowly take over. And now newspaper is just propaganda machine. Fine, totally. But the Internet's about to come through. But wait with the newspaper company. And we sell bullshit for the government as the government is being built. Oh, they are paying us to make this thing where we're gonna give them, quote, news that the government can directly 00:25:00 Jack: modify however they want. We create templates, and they fill it in the blanks. Cristina: The government. Jack: The government or some. Or maybe tell us what to say. And maybe the whole time. And then Facebook comes in and, oh, Facebook is stealing our data. It's because somebody found out maybe it was doing it the whole time. It didn't start late. It was designed to do it. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: Somebody Found out. Oh, no. We're gonna change the thing. They just tightened security, so it's harder to find. Cristina: Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Jack: You get my point, huh? So it was always lying to you. You were never looking at anything. It's all. Nothing is real. I've gone into that space of mind a couple of times, and it would make sense. Cristina: With the Internet or with everything? Jack: With everything. If not the newspaper, then maybe some medium before the newspaper was the bull. Maybe the town square screamer guy. Cristina: Him? Jack: Yeah, maybe. Every time he came out, the king is like, well, tell them this. It ain't true, but whatever, okay? And that guy becomes the news guy, and then that guy sells the newspaper and that guy tells you the news on, like, an anchor. And then the news anchor becomes the influencer. And, like, ultimately, all these people you've never met and never seen aren't people. You're being sold bullshit. Controlled by people who are paid to sell you bullshit. Cristina: See? Jack: And, oh, a CEO got shot. Never happened. We think it happens, and everybody around us thinks happens because we all see the same thing saying, I think it happens. And then we all repeat that it happens, and we all believe it, and we have no way to disprove it. Cristina: Okay? Jack: It happens somewhere away from me. How am I gonna go prove it? How are you gonna prove it? Anybody who's not and anybody who's there. Did you see it happen? Oh, no. It happened down there. You've never met somebody who saw it happen. You never meet anybody who saw it happen. It happened. You were showed it happened. It happened here. And this time. Oh, how weird. I was a block from there and I didn't see it. I didn't hear gunshots. Cristina: Crazy, okay? But if I did, if I had to actually do that every time I thought, like, I had to know the story was real. If I really was that obsessed, you don't think I'd be able to do it? You don't think I'd be able to find someone that saw something? Jack: You could find somebody who's told to tell you that. How do you know that's not the case? You know? Okay, that's my point. How do we know? But anyways, outside of the point, that's just a headspace I've gone into several times associated with things. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And if we assume everything the government does is, everything media companies do is they're just trying to sell more ads. Everything is manipulated. Manipulation of the public. Why would this be the moment that decided to tell us the truth? That would literally put them, the controllers, in Ninja. Either we broke through, there's a puppet master somewhere, or I mean, I guess that's pretty much it. I would broke through, there's a puppet master somewhere. Cristina: This isn't true. Jack: Or this isn't true. Cristina: It's probably not true. I don't know. Jack: If there's a puppet master, it's not true. Cristina: If it is a puppet master, it's not true. Jack: Yeah, we're being manipulated into thinking it is. Well, so that then we revolt against rich people or something for somebody else's benefit somehow. Cristina: I don't know what the benefit is. I guess if the person that is fake dying could be just trying to hide. Jack: Interesting point. Cristina: Or just I'm tired of this life, let's go live a different life. So what's the best way to do it? Jack: CEO dies in public. Cristina: So then now he's no longer CEO. Now he's playing baker at some country somewhere else. I don't know. Jack: Interesting. Interesting. Cristina: Like death doesn't really have to mean death either. Jack: But then this goes actual back to the. The puppet master scenario. Somebody didn't actually die there. So what was the public. You didn't. You could just pay paperwork to say you died. Cristina: Want to make a big show about it? Well, because a lot of people know the CEO, I guess he needs to get. Make people he knows believe he said, yeah, it's not for us. Jack: Interesting. You think he got into some hot water? Yeah, maybe he's in some s***. Cristina: This is the way actual people with money have to get rid of the life that they're not happy with. They got the money for it. Jack: Got the money for it. An absurd amount of money. He could become anybody who wants. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Live the rest of his life perfectly fine. Interesting. So your argument is in a Black Flag event didn't happen. It was just a cover up. Cristina: Cover up? It could be a cover up. Jack: One big cover up. Cristina: I don't know. It all sounds insane, but like, how would you know? Jack: All of it sounds pretty crazy. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. The problem is nothing is provable. 00:30:00 Jack: Right? Cristina: But then what happened to this person? Luigi. Jack: Okay, so following the attempt, I guess the success. Following the success of this, other than people cheering him on, CEOs panicking. The cops went and hunted down a guy. They got some tips and they found him just sitting there at a coffee shop or something. A lady. An employee? No. Was it an employee? Yeah, I think it was an employee or a lady sitting there who was like, crap, I'll call and get in on it. Or whatever. But they're not getting the money anyways, apparently, because they called the cops, not the people who they were supposed to send the tip to. Cristina: What? Okay, someone's trying to make money. Jack: Yeah, they only did it for the money, so now they're a rat and everybody knows it. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: Also, they got doxed. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: That lady's information is all over the Internet. Cristina: Okay, so. But no, I don't want to care about here is crazy. Jack: What becomes interesting. They find a guy. The hoodie first. The problem is, I can't jump to what happened to the guy because in order to throw the cops off, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people just started dressing exactly the same to just make it exceptionally difficult. There are people just wearing the same green hoodie and, like, gray sweater or whatever the h*** he was wearing in the video. People just started dressing like that, either in honor of him or to throw the cops off. Regardless, the cops were very confused. There was too many people fitting exactly the same identity for days. Cristina: But then what happened, though? So they do get him. Jack: No, they get a guy. That's the. That's where the. That's why it's important that I say that. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Because the guy they caught, some dude called Luigi. People have broken down the video of the guy who did it. Now, I believe Luigi said he did do it, but people were like, that dude's kind of taking the fall for Luigi at this point. Because, I mean, Luigi's taking the fall for the guy who did it. These are two different heroes. Is the idea that people have. I've stumbled upon this thought a couple of times because the people dissecting the video where he shot the CEO have seen the mug shot and compared every single note. The guy you arrested did not suddenly grow a unibrow over the last two days versus the guy who shot, who was not. Cristina: There's a video of this, too. Jack: Hella breakdowns. People showing them. People are calling Luigi a hero because he's not letting the mystery shooter get caught. Now, again, I don't know if this is the actual truth. This is just the Internet's impression. And this hasn't been confirmed by any authority figure. This is people. But also the people who are least going to tell you the truth are the authority figures. And the experts are usually the people. Now, there's this theory, a psychology theory that's a very pronounced sociological effect. Weird phenomenon where individually people are stupid, but collectively they tend to be right with astounding precision. This is easy to prove as a test with A jar of marbles, A random number of marbles. You give people the same jar, different groups of people. Everybody's gonna be very wrong about how many marbles are in the jar when they guess. But collectively, they're gonna be almost on the mark. Cristina: When you, like, average out the number. Jack: Yeah, when you average out the numbers, they. They're always right. They're, like, within margins. I've seen the test on, like, YouTube. Get to. There'll be, like, 10,000 people, and they're within, like, 50 marbles of the right number, and there'll be, like, hundreds of thousands of marbles in the thing or whatever the h***. Just crazy numbers and the likes get there real with crazy precision. It never fails. This is why voting systems tend to really reflect what the people really think, because individually, everybody's stupid, but collectively, our thoughts mix into one cohesive thing. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And I think the people might be. Cristina: Right, but he's not the guy. Jack: He's not the guy. I think he's not the guy. I think this guy's just taking the fall. I think he's one of the many people who are like, you. Rock on, and you should be free because you did what we wish we had the guts to do. You're the hero, and we're the followers now. Cristina: But is there really a guy? Jack: There's a shooter, and there is a dead CEO, and there's a dude named Luigi, and he doesn't fit any of the characteristics. And the outfit he was seen while he was getting arrested with, which a bunch of people recorded, does not look like the same hoodie or 00:35:00 Jack: the same sweater. Cristina: He looked like the same. Jack: No, they were both green. It was. This is a green hoodie, like the guy in the video, and a sweater that was gray like the one in the video. But they were breaking down. This is the guy dressing like the dude and then claiming he's the dude. Because the dude in the videos hoodie has this cut. And you could see there, somebody pointed at a little pocket that he had here that this guy you arrested who's wearing the thing, doesn't have. And the. The unibrow that the guy in the video doesn't have, but the guy you arrested does. And somebody's pointing out the shape of his head. This guy looks kind of like a white guy. The guy you arrested is not. So a bunch of those going on, and it's like, man, the average here is. People are saying that dude isn't the guy. And then when you look at it, you're like, I mean, crap, you'd have to stretch it to say he is. Cristina: Okay, but so far he is. Jack: So far he is. According to authorities. Got him. Well, don't do it again. You're gonna easily get caught. Cristina: That's the end of that. Jack: That's the end of that. You see the problem? That's what they want us to think. Don't do it again. You will catch you easy. We're good people. Over 72% of all murders in the United States go unsolved. This statistic is provable. It's not something people should know. But. But just for your knowledge, that is a fact, you can Google this. Cristina: Murders go on. Jack: Most over 72% on average go unsolved. Most crime is unsolved. You have a group of people working on it. That is true. Most things go unsolved. We only report the ones we do. Think about that and look at your local statistics. You don't have to take my word for this. Now apply that logic and tell me they got the right guy. And they're not just saying that. Cristina: They always say they have the right guy. Jack: They always say they have the right guy. Cristina: We have to assume that they're wrong. They've always lied. Jack: They do that so you don't panic and decide. Or not panic. They do that because they're panicked. They don't. If they don't catch the guy, the next dude is gonna say, wait, he did it and got away with it. Cristina: And most likely we all did get away with it. Jack: Many, many, many. Most. Statistically speaking, seven. More than seven out of ten. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: More than seven out of ten got away every time. Cristina: But they're not gonna show us that. Jack: They're never gonna show us that more than 7 out of 10 get away every time. Cristina: So then the guy that they're showing us has to be alive, Statistically speaking at least. Yes. Jack: If we caught the guy who tried, the president. Two of them. Cristina: They can't be. Jack: You're not telling me that this guy is also you? Just all super mega agents, get the f*** out of here. No, nah, nah. You guys can't solve crap when it matters. You're solving this random s***. Yeah, for a CEO, dude. Nah, you don't believe it. You're trying to sell some, like, mountainous s***. All the other CEOs threw a bunch of money at this problem and they're like, he got caught. We don't give a f***. He got caught. Somebody put somebody and say he got f****** caught. Somebody's going to jail. They're not going to Be out there thinking he got out because then who the one of us is next. Get the f*** out of here. And that's where they all at right now. There's statistics. I'm not saying that's him. I'm not saying that's not. I'm offering you data, factual data. Nobody has to believe me on s*** right now. Go look online. Go look at your local statistics and you tell me I'm bullshitting. Most mergers go unsolved now. You don't even have to. You assume he's in that 30% that does get caught. Right? Or not he's in. Assume that the 30% plays out and that somehow. Now you go and look at the two pieces of evidence is all you need to do. You don't need to take my word for s***. Think everybody's crazy. Do start there. F*** it. Cristina: What? Jack: And you just go and look at the video. It's public as f***. Of the assassination. And look at the guy. Pause it. You could zoom in. And then you look at the guy they arrested. Do this at home. Pause the show. Cristina: Can we pause the show to do this? Jack: You want to look at it? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: All right. Okay. Okay. We looked. We couldn't find. How do I put it? Cristina: I found his brother Mario crying. Jack: Great. We. I. I found the video, but it's unclear whether the video was removed by the user or if the video was actually wasn't removed by the user because he could have just blocked it. It goes to the error page where it says the video couldn't be played. So the video is experiencing some playback issues. 00:40:00 Jack: Interesting. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Now, in looking for this, I have confirmed something weirder yet, which I don't know where I stand on because the sources include ABC News, cnn, USA Today, CBS, and fox. But this is very confusing because it's kind of getting to that. Some event happened recently where we didn't know what was true. And we were like, this is probably the point. They want us confused. This guy was not insured by the company at all. At least the guy they arrested has zero connection to the United Health Care. Cristina: He. Jack: His parents were not insured by that company. His mom was not insured by that company. I think he lied. But what's complicated about this is the guy who got arrested was found with a notebook. Well, he wasn't found with a notebook, but in his home there was a notebook that was essentially tracing the CEO's footsteps. So it's the guy, but the story's a lie. Cristina: Okay. He's stalking this guy. Jack: He's been Stalking the CEO that he killed. He was planning to kill the guy. Cristina: For a while, but there's no real reason of why he did it. Jack: The reason he gave is a lie. Cristina: Okay? Jack: Because he was not insured by that. And a guy doing the thorough work he had, he would have known that's not the guy. So he told a story, although it's the story we're going with. But he wasn't insured by United Healthcare at all. Again, it looks like the intent here is confusion because that's too conflicting. I wish I remember what the recent thing that happened that was kind of like this was where it looked like the intention was confusion. Like, who's the bad guy here? Cristina: I think it was the dead bodies. Not the dead bodies. The mysterious crates. Crates on boats that were going somewhere that could have been bodies. Like there was always stories about something happening. But I don't think they found the bodies. They're just like something weird's happening. Jack: I think also covet as well the amount of like contradictory. But I think that was a cover up. I think they were trying to cover that up and because it was slow. Cristina: How many things are just cover ups? Jack: I think a lot of things are cover ups because his government up here and there's. Cristina: Okay, is this a cover up? Jack: I don't know if this is a cover up. I don't know. I don't know what the h*** I just read. This is crazy. I don't know. Then what the. Did he shoot the guy for what the? Cristina: Because he. See, he's a CEO, so you pick. Jack: Why he just tracked this guy at random and like this one out of a hat. Cristina: Yeah, we don't know. Jack: Yeah, it's not. It's weird. It's definitely strange. Luigi Mangione was not insured by United Health Care. Cristina: That's why he did it. Because he's not insured from them. I don't know. Jack: Which means it couldn't be denied by an insurance company that he was not involved with. Yeah, no, it's just a weird, like. I don't know. Anyways. Anyways, that's one of the two informations. Interesting. Cristina: I don't know if we learned anything. Jack: No, we didn't learn anything. But I just wanted to talk about that real quick. The second thing we got to talk about really quick, which is we didn't ground it, though. Cristina: We ungrounded. Jack: We were. We were. We were grounding it. And then I read that part. Yeah, Yeah. I got more informed and it stopped being grounded the moment it flew away. I mean, how do we. We were so close, too. I think. Think, like, oh, man. I don't know. How do we make this make sense? There's some information missing here. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: We'll probably return to it. We'll come back another day. We'll see what we. What we learn in a week. Cristina: Okay. Jack: The second piece of information is the aliens. Cristina: Aliens everywhere. Jack: Everywhere. Cristina: Always. Jack: All the time. Cristina: All the time. That's weird. Jack: Yep. Cristina: But they're not aliens. They're just droids. They just say droids. Drones and drones. Yeah, that's drones. Jack: Chinese drones. Cristina: Are they Chinese drones? Jack: I don't know. We'll say whatever the h*** is Chinese. I don't know. The government told us it's Chinese. There's the news. Or somebody told us it's Chinese. How do we believe it? Cristina: Does it look Chinese? Jack: How would we know what a Chinese drone looks like? Cristina: Does it just look like a normal drone? 00:45:00 Cristina: I try to look at videos. It just. It? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Jack: Drones got, like, a general look. It doesn't look like any other drone. Cristina: But they're trying to make it look like a ufo, too. Like it's a drone. But it's round. Jack: Yes. Okay, so they've been seen all over the country. Primarily in New Jersey. Weird. Cristina: Weird. Weird New Jersey. Jack: Weird New Jersey. Always attracting the aliens. Always attracting the ghosts. Cristina: They're here for the big fit. Jack: The big fit. Cristina: The Bigfoot. The Bigfoot that's here. Jack: Maybe they're just here for, you know, the Jersey Devil. Cristina: We also have that, so. Jack: You know what's funny? You know what's the funniest part about this? They are hanging out in this area. They're in the area where Clinton Road is. I didn't even think about this. They are hanging out. Out here. What the h***? There's no escaping that place. Cristina: This place is supernatural. Okay? Jack: Yeah, there's something weird here, and they're. Cristina: Just checking that out. Jack: Especially as something like something's happening with humans right now. Cristina: But if they. Dish, you found the drone. Jack: It's not alien, robot. It's It. It. If it is an alien drone, then they didn't send a fleshy meat sack inside of it. Cristina: Why would they do that? Jack: It's just not. Yeah, it's dumb. It's just technology floating around. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Now, we shot it down looking at that video. It's just technology. Normal. It didn't look alien or foreign. It's just technology. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Okay. So that's what it looks like. Cristina: That's what it Is somewhat like a plane. Jack: Looks somewhat like a plane. Looks like a government drone. Cristina: And what does that mean? What does it mean? If it's just a government drone, why are they in New Jersey? Jack: That explains why our government immediately blames China. Cristina: China sent their government drones here. Jack: No, it's because it's the easiest, quickest, fastest, immediate go to response anytime our government does anything themselves. Cristina: So you think they're doing something and they're covering it up by blaming China. Jack: We can't prove them wrong. Cristina: They really shouldn't do that because then it makes it sound like maybe China has control of our drones. And that's even. That's. That's the fear. Why are they trying to spread that fear? But I don't think they're trying to spread that fear. But now that's the fear. Jack: Anytime we don't like something, they blame China as to build some sort of enemy with them. Cristina: But like, if that were the truth, that's pretty horrible because it's clearly our. Ours. It's us. Jack: Well, no, all drones across the world that are usually military drones look the same. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: It's not just ours drones. Cristina: It may not. Jack: There's different kinds of drones. The ones that look like floating saucers are more sports drones that they got four propellers and can do all kind of weird acrobatics. Military drones tend to just be planes that can do direct strikes. Cristina: And you think it's someone else's. You don't think it's ours? Jack: I didn't say either. I think our government is saying it's China. And like, I don't trust our government. It's full of. And it's probably our governments. Cristina: If it's our. Whether either way is kind of bad because it's a lot. It's not like one. They're sending one. It's a bunch. Jack: We're seeing mass observation. If it is our government, then they are creating mass observation for indefinite surveillance of the whole population. They are testing out the military state. Cristina: And that's kind of crazy. Yeah. And everything I read, like, I couldn't read about us shooting one down, even though that one looks like it was shot down. But there's a bunch of articles saying don't shoot them down. Jack: Yeah, interesting point. Cristina: They're saying not to, like. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. If those are your things, you don't want people to be shooting them down. Like so. Jack: Yes. Interesting. Interesting fact. They are telling. I mean, of course, if it's theirs. Cristina: Yeah. But like, why? What if they've lost control of their own drones. Jack: That'd be crazy. Cristina: Like, would they tell us that? Jack: Why would your drones come to New Jersey? Cristina: I don't know. But because, yeah, that. That shows that they truly don't have any. Jack: Look at. There's no strategic advantage to coming over here. Nobody in New York is like, we saw drones. Cristina: No, but I. I think they're spreading. I think some people are seeing them. Jack: In PA and in Maryland. Cristina: Yeah. So it is spreading. Jack: Interesting. Cristina: Why started here? I don't know. Jack: I mean, government surveillance is weird. That is definitely one answer. Yeah, it is a possibility. Government surveillance, which. Oh, my God. Cristina: This might be black. 00:50:00 Cristina: Mira. We might have lost them. Jack: We could have lost them. Or no, it's intentional. Is it coincidence that the CEO thing happens and the President's attempt happened and that we mocked the people in the submarine and we're at a day and age when the rich and the powerful are trying to legislate moderation of the Internet and control and censorship. And then, then drones start showing up, watching people and things kind of. When you look at all the parts, it looks like the people are getting out of control. Initiate the protocol to take control of everything. Cristina: But as far as we can tell, they're not really doing anything. Jack: It would be slow. You can't do anything quickly. Remember Hitler's teachings. Why? A wise man once said, it's more effective to gradually change the rules than it is to make one mass big sweep. You do annoying small things that. So you take the big problem, you take the giant rule you don't want them to freak out about, and you break it into all the separate parts that make that rule up, and then you just little by little, change those to the other side. They're not going to see the bigger picture. You made it about the little thing. And they're going to react a little thing and react a little thing. But then it's nuanced and boring and stupid, and it doesn't really affect them in any big way. Cristina: So you think there's more steps to this? Jack: I think there's a thousand steps. And I think everything is unrelated looking and small and nuanced. Cristina: Part of the apocalypse, Part of the. Jack: Apocalypse, Part of as we know it, it's ending. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: I don't know what's going on. It is crazy. And. And again, it would fit the picture right? It's. It wouldn't make this a separate set of news from the CEO being shot. It would make it an inevitable result of people in power hitting panic in the last couple of Months or years. And initiating all sorts of things to assure their own safety against who they deem to be the peasants, which would be. These drones are created by the rich and powerful to watch all the people and make sure that they are safe. Cristina: But why start in New Jersey is really funny. Jack: That would make the most sense if that was the case. Where do all the rich people go? The ones who don't want to be. Cristina: In the public eye saying they're in New Jersey? Jack: Montclair, New Jersey. West Orange, New Jersey. It's close enough to New York that they can still accomplish all their money needs and get home within the hour. Cristina: Okay. What? I don't know. There's too much going on. It's definitely not aliens. Jack: At least it's definitely not aliens. Based on the information we have, the thing surrounding it. It's humans. And quite possibly it's our own government drones. It's not even, like, advanced technology. The one shot down looks kind of standard. It's just military grade, which is problematic, don't get me wrong. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, but. And the fact that our government is like, don't shoot that. Definitely foreign military technology down. What? What? So we're just. You're telling us it's China. What's the alternative here? We're China's now, and you're just not saying it out loud. Yeah, I doubt that. You say that the bad guy too often. Let's shoot him down, everybody. Shoot him down, everybody. Cristina: If that is China, then China won and now they control us. Yeah, like, is that the conclusion? Like, I guess China rules. Jack: I guess. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: They won the race to the one world government. Cristina: I guess. So, like, this is the start of that. Jack: Nah, that. Shoot him down. Don't listen to anything anybody tells you. If it's not your drone flying over your property, shoot it down. Doesn't matter how big it is. Shoot it down. Cristina: You might get hurt. Jack: Huh? Cristina: Now you might get hurt. Jack: No, get out of its way. You shoot it down in the opposite direction of where you are. You watch it. Oh, it's in front of me and it's coming my way. Okay. I'll wait until it's directly over me and shoot it. It's gonna fall somewhere to the other side. Cristina: Mm. Okay. Jack: Don't get hurt. Just shoot it down. Shoot him down. F*** that. Don't listen to anybody who's like, no, they're alien. They're foreign technology by our enemies. Also. Let it doing. Nah, f*** that. If it's foreign technology, that's spying on you, Shoot it down. If it's your government lying to you, shoot it down. There's no reason they could come up with for you to not shoot it down. That's justifiable and logical. They're gonna try to gaslight you. I swear to God they're going to. Don't listen to them. This sounds like a load of s***. It doesn't matter which side they try to flip it. 00:55:00 Jack: It's just a bunch of. Shoot it down. Don't hurt anybody. Don't go do what some of these maniacs is. Yeah. Cristina: Didn't you say someone got hurt or something? Someone died. Jack: Oh, yeah. No, fair enough. Somebody got. Yeah, they did shoot it down and hit somebody on the highway. Cristina: Yeah. So that's probably the reason they're telling people not to shoot it down. Jack: Fair. Fair. Cristina: It was big enough to kill someone. Jack: Shoot them down in the woods. Make sure it's flying in the direction that there aren't people. There you go. Shoot those down. Now. If they start to strategically plan their flights in the direction of people because they. They take note of this, then. Then whatever. Consider your safety over everybody else's and do what you got to do. They gotta come down. They're spying on us. Cristina: They're spying on us. Jack: If it's the enemy. Enemy spying on you if it's home. Well, home is the enemy now. And they're spying on you. Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty bad either way. Jack: It's pretty bad either way. If it's aliens, they're spying on you and like, they're. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: I mean, I don't know what you could do. Cristina: It doesn't really. You can't. Like, even if you shoot it down, then it's not gonna accomplish. Jack: No. Another one will be replaced probably. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Quickly. They won't care. They could cross space. They probably got infinite numbers of those things. Cristina: Yeah. It's already too late. If it's aliens, it's too late. So it doesn't matter, I guess. Jack: Yeah, that's legit. If it's aliens, it's too late. There's nothing we can do about that. Cristina: Yeah, but if it's not, Just shoot it down safely. Safely. Jack: Safely shoot it down. Try to avoid people getting harmed. Cristina: But. Jack: But on the. On the offside. This isn't foreign or from home. What, it's just a plane. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: On the flip side, maybe the guy only shot the wrong drone. And that's not. Because if you look at some of the other videos and images, it kind of looks Like a weird alien craft, like a flying saucer or some s***. Cristina: So you think the government threw the up their drones around the area where the alien drones are, and that's why they don't want you to shoot any drones because you might destroy the government's drones that are. Jack: Maybe they're trying to study. What the h***? Interesting point. Cristina: There's some weird drone war happening right now, and they don't want us involved in it. Look, so it's easier just to say it's China, but leave it alone. Jack: When you look up, you're gonna see either the stars or drones, and they're gonna be at war. So while this Star wars is happening. Cristina: Horrible. Okay? Jack: And it's a Clone War that's happening. Don't shoot anything down. Let that Star Wars Clone wars happen. Can you imagine if I could do that indefinitely with random topics and just speak in titles? Cristina: Titles. That's horrible. That's horrible. And I hate it. I think everyone else hates it too. Jack: If you didn't know the reference, it would be fine. It's only if you knew the reference that you're like, you clearly like. Cristina: But then once you add Clone wars, it doesn't really make sense anymore. Jack: Why? That's the name of the movie. Star Wars Clone. Cristina: No, but, like, what does this relate. Where's the clone in this? Jack: Oh, crap. You're right. Cristina: It should actually connect to what's happening. Jack: Oh, the problem is here's. Here's where I messed up. Here's where the logic happens. The clones were created to fight the drones. Cristina: Okay? So you have to actually know what's going on in Star wars to get it. Jack: There's no clones in this, so it doesn't make sense. It made sense in my head when I remembered that the clones are actually controlled by the same people who own the drones. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Yeah, that's the real story. The people who own the clones own the drones. This fake proxy war to acquire more. Cristina: Power, maybe that's what this is. Jack: I guess. I guess. Cristina: Yeah, but powerful. Jack: Who from the people. The. The only thing we have to take. Cristina: Him if whoever's running China somehow. This is a show for China to show our capability if they decided to attack us like this. Jack: You think there's an invasion? Cristina: Dude, here's the argument. Jack: Here's the argument. Here's the argument taking just. Let's assume we're not being lied to. News media is correct and government statements are true. These are Chinese drones spying on the east. We have Chinese actual planes and spy planes checking 01:00:00 Jack: us out in the west, you want us to be safe. You have the border on the south letting through, on top of everybody else, a wave of, for some reason, Chinese immigrants coming from the south into the country that are being driven in buses directly to New York City with the rest of the South American immigrants. Bro, if we just take what you're telling us at face value. Do you want us to think a war is about to happen and are you about to start attacking the people? Is China invading? That's one. If not, are you using this as a means you're feeding? You're telling us this is all true. You're telling us. Government's telling us. You want us to think that there's an invasion happening so that you can invade ourselves. You're gonna attack us and blame them. Is that the goal here? Cristina: Or to have a reason to attack them? Jack: Or have a reason to attack them? Fair enough. Both. Maybe do both. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Attack them and say, oh, they're everywhere among us. We have to take control so we can weed them out. Out martial law until we find them. And they'll never find them. Cristina: So you think. Jack: Why are you telling us that all of this is Chinese? The Chinese with the Russian to the west, Chinese drones to the east, Chinese immigrants. There's no China beneath us. They took planes and technology there and migrated through the southern border. How the f*** this sounds like an invasion, bro. Like a strategic one too. Really good one. Cristina: But it's not an invasion if we're letting it happen and we know about it and we're helping them. Like it's not. It's ownership, it's something. Exactly. So are we already. Have we lost already? Or is. Are we just saying China's the bad guy when China's actually the secret puppet master this whole time? Jack: I don't know. They are the aliens we see in our skies and our government selling us. No, and those are not aliens. Those are the Chinese. Don't hurt them. And yeah, don't hurt that thing that's also in the West. Looking over one of our most important access points. Actually one of the most important access points on Earth, Anchorage. They're just hanging out by that. Russians and Chinese, the people we have over here on the East. Casual. Also, we got crazy beef with the Russians that they're hanging out over there with. Especially because we just green lit their direct war competitor to use weapons that are going to attack their people and their leaders deep into their country anyways. Yeah, don't shoot that plane down. What the. Does that mean? What? Confusion. Yeah, all the information Is conflicting all of the time. It's like, did Luigi do it? Weirdly enough, the spaceships that we're seeing and the guy shooting the CEO are all one f****** story. It's a weird control thing happening, and there's a bunch of confusion everywhere. Intentionally, it seems intentional. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Weird. Cristina: Mm. What? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Nothing makes sense. Jack: Nothing makes sense. Confusion looks like the goal. Like, it absolutely looks like part of the plan. Here is a bunch of information. We saying this. We're saying that we're all legitimate sources. According to what we're saying. It's like, what? What? Dude, you said that's the bad guy. You said they're a threat. You said they're trying to spy on us. You said, there's nothing worse to our security than China. Also, those are Chinese drones. And also, don't touch them. Let them be. Cristina: Yes. Jack: At in the same breath that you're telling us the most dangerous nuclear power on earth that directly hates us is teamed up with them watching our western border. And you're like, no, it's all good. You just had a training. Nah, nah. When you put it all together, bro. Nah. Cristina: What's happening then? Jack: I don't know. I don't know. It looks weird. Cristina: It looks very strange. Jack: But everything does lately, because it's falling apart, I think. Again, my theory is the grasp for total control because the people are. They're over it. Cristina: But then is any of this anyone or is this us? Jack: I don't know. I don't know if somebody. That's the crazy part, right? Because it comes back to how much of this is true. If everything is being controlled. Did we break through and show a CEO? No, because it's on everything. It's everywhere. Cristina: So it's all fake or real? Jack: One or the other. That's the problem. And that's the other issue. If it's all fake. It's always been fake. We've never been told the truth. We have an idea what reality looks like. The people who know have always lied to us about it. Cristina: Yeah, that could be it, I think. Jack: Weird. Cristina: Yeah. 01:05:00 Cristina: I gotta find some of these drones. That I'll know. Jack: Anyways, those are the two things I quickly wanted to talk about. Now we can talk about the point of this episode, which is supposed to. Oh, crap. Cristina: What? Jack: We're way over the time. Cristina: Oh, all right. Jack: Yeah, we're gonna have to do this next time. Cristina: No one is gonna care. Jack: They care. And look, I promise we're gonna get to this. It's important they need to know our thoughts on these matters. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And we're going to get to it. Except we don't have time for that today. So next time we're gonna talk about this. But today we unpack those aliens. Cristina: Did we? Jack: Yeah, there's no aliens. Cristina: I guess so, yeah, we did that part. Jack: And we also made more sense with the story of the aliens. Made way more sense of the story of Luigi. Cristina: Oh, yeah, it's all fake. Jack: It's all fake. It's all grounded. It's definitely feasibly a bullshit narrative made up by a bunch of different. So it's one of two things. Either yes, all of it is fake or all the parts are true. Either some dude really did kill a CEO, and that's not somebody trying to trigger you. Somebody broke through and decided to do the thing and the people cheering it on are real people. And there's a thing about to happen. There's a thing that's about to happen. Cristina: That's why we got these droid drones to stop this from happening. Jack: Exactly. The drones. So most of the news is true and people are spotting the rich people's attempt to solve their own fear. Yes, or all of this is f****** true. And those are not ours. That's an invasion. What's happening in the south is an invasion. And what happened with this guy is not real either. That's some stage situation done by the people who usually want to trick you into wanting to go to war with people. If you believe 911 was an inside job to have an excuse to go invade a place, then the drone excuse is the same logic. And there's nobody out west either. That's bullshit. We're just looking for reasons to convince the people that we need. And if we. The more riled up we get, the people the more riled up. So next thing we're gonna find out is that somehow this guy's an insurance company, was owned by some Chinese crap. Whether it's true or not. Oh, they had investors who were Chinese and making money off of whatever. Whatever the h*** we're going to be like. Oh, China. Cristina: Go to every story and see how all of them, any story you've ever heard is related to China. Jack: I bet. Bare minimum. I think it's like using nothing but FOX and cnn. We can connect any story back to China. Okay, then I guarantee you I'm almost. I'm like 99.91% sure that I can. Using no other sources. If they've talked about it, I could probably find the Mention of China in the article, even if they're not directly blaming it. Don't write the word China because it's part of the agenda. You need to think China associated with this article somehow. Cristina: Yes. Okay. Jack: Officials theorize maybe it was China or spectators were believing it was a Chinese. You know, just structured in a way that the thought, oh, Chinese put it up there. Even if they're saying they didn't, but then you'll read it later, they think China put it up there. Before long, even if all of them told you China didn't put it up there, you kept hearing China put it up there. Cristina: Yes. Jack: People definitely think China put it up there. We're not saying they did. People definitely think that, though. That guy over there thinks that. We spoke to these people of some expert think we don't. We're just reporting random crap. Some expert think. Some probably experts. We've deemed experts who were these experts. But with these experts, they think China put it up there. Before long. They never said it was China. No, but I'm sure with all of. Cristina: Them, they're always doing that. Jack: Subliminal messaging everywhere. Cristina: Yeah, the masters of it. Jack: Anyways, if you guys have any input, any thoughts on this Luigi character, any thoughts on that shooting, that murder, any thoughts on these alien drones that are really Chinese drones, that are really American drones that aren't real at all. They're probably just birds. Cristina: It's just birds. Jack: It's just birds. Robot birds. Government. Yeah, it's government birds. That's it. Okay, if you guys got any input on any of that, let us know, as well as how excited you are to hear the news. I got to share with you guys about the research I've done. Anyways, you can tell us about all these things on our socials at just convopod, on Tick Tock, on Instagram, on Facebook, on X. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the 01:10:00 Cristina: show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most exaggerated thing in the world. Tell them we've solved it. We figured it out. We know who did the thing, why they did it, and what comes next with profits. Tell them we can tell the future. Cristina: All right, this has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. It. Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Cristina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Elin Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black. 01:11:11

Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse

Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse

In a world rife with uncertainty and chaos, the concept of the apocalypse has been a recurring theme throughout human history. From biblical tales of Noah's Ark to modern-day fears of viral outbreaks, the notion of an impending end has captured our imagination and shaped our beliefs. In this week's episode, we dive into the absurdity of apocalyptic predictions and explore the myriad ways in which humans interpret the idea of the end. Our hosts, Jack and Cristina, embark on a rambling journey that questions the very fabric of our understanding of apocalypses. They ponder whether multiple apocalypses could occur without us even noticing, drawing parallels between historical accounts and contemporary fears. With a playful yet thought-provoking tone, they dissect the narratives that have been passed down through generations, questioning their validity and relevance in today's society. One of the standout moments in the episode is the discussion surrounding the Great Flood, a story that has been interpreted in countless ways across different cultures. Jack argues that if the flood was indeed a historical event, it may have been localized, leading those who experienced it to believe they were the last survivors on Earth. This perspective invites listeners to reconsider the stories they’ve been told and challenge the narratives that shape their beliefs. The conversation takes a fascinating turn as they explore the role of government in societal collapse. Cristina suggests that the most likely apocalypse could stem from a viral outbreak, one that might be inadvertently released by those in power. This theory resonates with recent global events and raises critical questions about trust, control, and the lengths to which authorities will go to maintain order. As the episode unfolds, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own beliefs and the absurdity of trying to predict the future. Jack and Cristina emphasize that while we may never know the exact nature of an apocalypse, the discussions surrounding it reveal much about human behavior and our desire for understanding in an unpredictable world. Join us for this engaging and thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional thinking about the apocalypse. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, there’s something for everyone in this lively exploration of humanity's most baffling ideas. Tune in now and share your thoughts on what you believe the future holds!

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  • The Great Flood and its implications
  • The role of government in potential apocalyptic scenarios
  • Predictions from Nostradamus and the Simpsons
  • The concept of multiple apocalypses
  • The absurdity of our understanding of reality

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Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And as always, we're going to do that today. Now, last week, we went on a crazy rampage trying to ground. To do our job. To do our job. We're trying to do our job. And so we did that. But I had other plans at the beginning, and we never got to that. So this week, we're definitely going to get to it. Now, the world goes crazy randomly. Time repeats and events repeat. And people think the world is ending all the time. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Recently even did an episode about the apocalypse and which one we thought was. Was more likely. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because the apocalypse is coming. We're here to tell you the apocalypse is coming. I'm sure that if it repeats, then. Cristina: It'S never coming because we'll always have a period where we're like, the apocalypse is coming. Jack: But what if doesn't come? What if. What if multiple apocalypses happen? Cristina: Wouldn't we have noticed? Jack: Well, no, we. We're alive after it. Let's just think about it. Let's just use the Bible as an example. The Great Flood killed almost everybody. It was one family left that was on the ark. Allegedly. According to the story, they then repopulated Earth. That was the apocalypse. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Now there's evidence of a great flood. And there's a lot of stories to talk about the same moment from different points of view of the ark. Obviously, it's a mythological story that probably holds no real bearing, but that was the apocalypse. Cristina: What about the last one? That was supposed to happen. That didn't happen. Jack: Well, no, there's probably a bunch of. It's gonna happen and doesn't. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And then some actual apocalypses. Like the apocalypse has happened and we're here after the apocalypse happened. Oh, and we're gonna have an apocalypse. We see our apocalypse isn't. There's. There's not the apocalypse. Instead, I believe what we should be saying is an apocalypse. Cristina: Apocalypse. Jack: Yeah. There's an apocalypse coming. Cristina: Okay. But has nothing to do with what anyone's talking about. Jack: Well, that's what. That would be my next point. Right. Maybe somebody's figured it out. Like, there's a lot of random ideas. Somebody's got to figure it out. Right. Cristina: I don't. I guess. Like, you mean like just randomly. Jack: Not randomly. Maybe somebody really like it's everybody piecing whatever they can together in whatever way makes most sense to them. All religions and sciences do all the same thing. Cristina: Because were they talking about it before it happened? And with the flooding, where people like, an apocalypse is coming. It's going to be zombies, it's going to be war. It's going to be. Jack: I do believe. Cristina: And then it ended up being water. Jack: I think. Cristina: I think. Jack: Well, yeah, think about it. They. He was literally telling people according to the story, which means somebody was telling people there were announcements of a flood coming, but some people were believing it and some people weren't. Let's say that the. The. Cristina: But were other people spreading other stor. Stories of like, no, there is an apocalypse coming, but it's not water, it's fire. Jack: What would me. I don't know. Cristina: Whatever. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because that's what's happening now. I'm saying, like, there's not one person saying one thing and then everyone's what, believing it or not believing it? Oh, I'm sure a million things. Jack: No, I'm sure. I'm sure there was a billion different things happening at the same time. Maybe some thought it was the flood coming. Some people thought maybe the. Whatever civilization was over the hill was gonna come and kill them all or pillage them all or. Cristina: Mm. Jack: And that that was gonna be the end. Some people thought, no God is gonna come take us all literally. Cristina: I think people still think that, though. Yeah. Yeah. Jack: But I think that's the case. I think that maybe there were multiple apocalypses. And I think people. There were people that believed many different apocalypses were gonna happen, but only one. Cristina: Is the real one. Jack: Only one is a real one. It's like religion, the apocalypse. I mean, I guess. No, I guess you're the same. I guess it's the same thing. Religion and the apocalypse are the same thing. You can't have a religion without the ap. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because then what would it be? Right? Like. Or not. Let me correct that. That's wrong statement. 00:05:00 Jack: You can't have heaven without the apocalypse because everybody is gonna go get punished and the ending for everybody's coming, and one day there's gonna be nothing. Unless, I guess, no, you can fix that problem. You could say that Earth is indefinite, but everybody will one day die and transition to heaven. That means that Earth can go on indefinitely and that heaven will still exist. So never mind. You. That's also a lie of a statement that I made. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But you kind of. It's like all religions, or most have an apocalypse scenario. The World is ending is part of it. Cristina: But you think one of them have it, right? Jack: One of them might. I'm not saying one of them do. I'm saying one of them might. Cristina: Okay. Because someone might have came up with. Jack: Yeah, there's too many. There's over, what, 8 billion of us trying to figure it out. Everybody has an idea of what's right and what's wrong and how it kind of works. And like, I'm sure enough of us have enough pieces that maybe we've talked collectively. You know, that seven degrees of separation where everybody kind of knows each other indirectly somehow. The one person who needs to know the thing knows the thing, and he has all the parts and he knows it. Cristina: I don't know if he needs to know anything. I think it's just random chance that you'll just know. Say the thing you think that it is and it's right. Like it's just. Jack: But you don't think somebody figured it out? Cristina: I don't. I don't know. It could be just by accident. It could equally be either or. Jack: How if it's hyper specific. That's crazy. Cristina: It could be either or. Jack: Oh, my God. Were you the one who showed me that thing? That, that. That phrase. Not the phrase, the quote of the guy saying that we are. Yeah, it was you. That we are the. Cristina: The monkeys that end up writing Shakespeare. Jack: Yeah. Earth is. We're an infinite number of monkeys that continue to breed and make more monkeys. And we literally already wrote. Cristina: Right. Shakespeare. Jack: We already wrote Shakespeare. Cristina: Yes, that's exactly the apocalypse. It's just. It's just random chance that the one person will have the right answer, but no one's gonna believe them because we're all trying. We're all saying something different and we. Jack: All want to believe our thing. Yes, whatever. You're not special. You couldn't figure it out before me. Cristina: So it's gonna happen. Sure. But I don't know if it's because he really, truly figured out. I mean, he could have, but it doesn't really make a difference. It's just gonna happen. It's. It has to happen that someone is gonna have it right, whether they really thought about it or not. Because time. Jack: No. Well, the apocalypse is gonna happen regardless. But who got it right and how did they get it right? I think. I think if it's really specific, they could get it right. But then there's that argument of, like, absolute random chance and, like, I don't know. But also I think. I think it's purposeful and random. At the same time, if that makes sense. Like, Hamlet was not written by accident. The person who wrote it did it with intent. Now, within the universe, it seems completely random. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But it's our scale. It seems intentional. And that brings up a weird question about reality. You know, size and, like, what looks intentional and what doesn't. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because I guess if you zoom out far enough. Total random tangent here. But if you zoom out far enough, human behavior might look absolutely random. It's chaotic and I guess. And if you just back up enough, we just randomly kill each other, go into war and around our peace with each other at random moments and just. We're just crazy. But up close it makes sense. Cristina: Yes. Jack: I guess this applies logically to everything. Yeah. Same thing happens with, like, outer space. Right. You. You look at anything, it's like, oh, space is just chaos and random. But you zoom into an atomic level. This atom is responding to that atom simply because it was moving in this direction. And everything reacts that way. There's a. You could predict how it's going to go simply based on understanding it at a granular level. And you think unrelated. That was just an unrelated tangent. Cristina: That's what made me think of. It's not that someone will come up with an answer. Jack: I mean, somebody might. Cristina: That's just gonna be in the Simpsons episode. Jack: Here's the problem. Simpsons do a lot of random crap, so it always looks like they're predicting junk. But I think the problem there is the Simpsons have this. How do you call it? You know, these people who. Not pro. I guess it's a prophet. What is Nostradamus. He's like a fortune teller, right? Cristina: Who? Jack: Nostradamus, the dude who has a book. Who predicted a bunch of crap in the future. Cristina: Oh, yeah. I guess. Jack: And like, oh, my God. So much of it came true. And it comes down to, like, you. Cristina: Know, if you're just. Jack: You've had thousands of predictions, Homie. Cristina: Yeah. Like a few of them eventually 00:10:00 Cristina: will be true. Yeah. Jack: And the Simpsons has how many seasons they've been around for how long? Cristina: How many are wrong versus how many are right? Jack: Yeah. How many episodes go by that you couldn't say they predicted something for before something happens that you say they predicted something for? Cristina: Yes. Jack: You know, and it's like they're cherry picking. Cristina: Yeah. Like, if you saw the actual dicks of all of that. Jack: Yeah. It's such an infinitely small amount of things they got right versus things they got wrong. Cristina: But they still probably will come up with it. Jack: Yeah. And I'm sure That somebody's gonna be like, the Simpsons, you know, they called it, but it's like they've explored every idea there's. Cristina: Exactly. Yeah. They probably explored every different type of apocalypse. Jack: Yeah, a hundred percent. How many different ways has that world ended? And then it happens over here. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be a chemical plant. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be aliens. It's like, what? Cristina: That doesn't make sense. Jack: That doesn't make sense. That does not make sense at all. Cristina: But that's what's going to happen. I guess they'll figure it out. Or we'll think that they figured it out, even though they didn't figure it out because they're just, like, making stuff. Jack: Up as they go. Pretty much, yes. Okay, so then my question is, how do we predict the apocalypse? And then in knowing how we predict the apocalypse, we can identify who would already know. Cristina: You think someone already knows? Jack: I think somebody must already know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. We'll go with that assumption. Cristina: And you think we could figure out who knows? Jack: Well, we can figure out. We can try to get as close as possible, but beforehand, we got to figure out. The two assumptions we're going with right now are one, if it can be done, if it can be known, somebody knows. Two, it can be known. So we just have to prove how, though. We have to move forward with those two ideas right now. Cristina: How do you prove how? Jack: Well, we got to figure out how we could. How we're going to predict the future, how we're going to tell which apocalypse. I guess the idea is not when we were having the apocalypse episode, we were having a conversation about what we would do and just kind of theoretically, what's more likely. Right now, we're just going to totally weigh out which one is going to happen or not. We weren't deciding which one was more likely, but rather what were the possibilities. Now, knowing the possibilities will just figure out which one is most likely. Cristina: How. Jack: I think, for example, we can easily exclude robots. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because I don't think we're anywhere. I. We're wrong about what AI is inherently. We're just wrong about what AI is. We're calling it artificial intelligence, but there's no intelligence there. It's googling. And even when it's not googling, Even when it's not googling, it's just sort of reacting off of the information that it was trained on to begin with, which is to use all the information and simply organize it, it's imitating, it's not originating. It's never creating its own thought. There's no intelligence. It's not even learning it really. It's just spitting things out. And imagine keyword searches, okay. And this is answers that, this answers that, this answers that. Let me put those together and give all the important parts from all of it. Which I guess is also kind of like intelligence works to some degree, but because I guess that's what we do. Cristina: But it's not coming up with anything new. Jack: It's not going to come up with anything new. It would never make up its own thing. It would be impossible. It would have to always rely on imitation. And for it to be true, intelligence would need the ability to originate a. Cristina: Thought, which so far, no. Jack: So far, no. I think like the computers taking over, realistically, might not be soon or at least the soonest we. What we'd be discussing right now is which is the soonest, most likely. Cristina: Zombies. No. I don't know. Jack: We get. We've gotten pretty close with some pharmaceutical things, but it doesn't seem, I think definitely viral is up there getting sick. Cristina: Getting in some type of way. Jack: Yes. I don't know if zombies. I think we'd quickly just nuke that city and get that done with. We've got too much media making us paranoid and we're going to be like, now solve that one. Cristina: Okay. We're going to do Resident Evil. Jack: Yeah, probably. We just get rid of it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: So definitely not that I think viral. Yes. 00:15:00 Jack: No, I think no zombies for sure. Cristina: No aliens for sure. Jack: No aliens. It wouldn't like really, it wouldn't make sense. Why aliens wouldn't need to interact with us for what. Cristina: And if people swear they are, if. Jack: You can try, I mean, they can study us. That makes sense. We're a different creature. But they don't have to speak with us. They don't need to talk with our leader like none of that bullshit. And it does. They don't need to destroy our planet or take over it or anything. Whatever resource exists here exists in abundance everywhere else in space. And the fact that they can clear the distance of space means that their technology is so exaggeratedly overpowered they can make the resource they're missing. So they don't need anything from us. They don't have any reason. Studying us would be the most important thing. And other than that, like, why are. Cristina: They still studying us? How long does selling us take? Jack: Well, there's creep. We evolve, we change. We keep studying animals even after we know them. Okay, science is science. You, you're never fully informed. You're only closer than you were before, and that's as close as you can get. But. So I don't think they're gonna end the world though. If anything, they're helping preserve us from meteors and that could end us. Okay, you know, they're out there. Why has nothing hit us in so long that has just reset the clock? Well, they're out there somewhere, just like keep that planet safe. It's fine. They're just creatures developing. Cristina: That's possible. Okay? Jack: Possible. We never see them because we can't mess with any of that. But they're out there just protecting Earth. Yeah, aliens everywhere. Just. They're not even out there. He's got robots doing it. Cristina: Robots. Jack: They got robots destroying stuff. No aliens, no AI, no zombies. Definite disease. Seems high, but I think. You know what it's gonna be. The possibility to me is that it's gonna be a government created attempt to scare the people that gets out of control. Because they're trying to control the people again. Maybe the people losing control. And the government wants to hold its grip on society because of whatever the h***. Cristina: They're gonna scare us. Jack: Trying to scare us with a real thing they made. Well, only, you know, you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette. And then that omelette gets out of control. Cristina: But it's the people or the thing that they use to scare the people. Jack: They were using the thing to scare the people, to get the people back under control. Cristina: And then the thing. Jack: Yeah, think Covid. But it goes way rogue. Okay, so the government makes the thing, releases it on the people with an attempt to. Oh, we're gonna put new rules and lockdowns and this and that. We're gonna get our laws back in our side. And then it even goes out of control that the government can't control it. Cristina: And it could be just a thing like. Jack: Yeah, it could just be virus. Yeah. It turns out to be way more contagious than they thought. Okay, that seems likely to me from all of it. Cristina: Is that your final answer though? Jack: Well, that's just one thing. I've discussed. What other apocalypses could happen. I think that's definitely high on this. Until we discuss something that stands out a little more. Cristina: The government is deciding it. Jack: No, they weren't deciding on the apocalypse. The government was simply trying to scare the people with something like Covid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: They happen to turn out way more contagious and starts killing people or mutates really quickly out of Their control. Cristina: But. Jack: I think that's possible. But like, what else is there? That's not them plotting the apocalypse. This is the apocalypse by chance happening because they're stupid. Cristina: Would you think they try to. Like, what would plotting the apocalypse look like for them? Jack: The government tries to plot. Okay, fair enough. This would have to be a scenario in which they have all the resources they need and can live without the peasants, essentially. And so rich people would need to interact with the government. And then that's the. You know, those are all the elites, politicians and rich people, and they somehow work together to set, settle, let's say, you know, get Mars up and running and we'll abandon Earth and all of the people, and they'll have no leadership and they'll kill each other down there. We'll just come back in like two, 300 years after we've killed each other. Reclaim Earth. Cristina: What? Jack: That's the situation which I think the apocalypse is all leadership suddenly leaving with all of the important information and resources. Cristina: I don't know if they can do that, but that sounds crazy. Jack: Yeah, I don't think they can either. I think there's enough of us that we would just keep going, figure it out. Cristina: We can figure it out. Maybe they take the resources somehow, but I don't know what that would mean. Jack: Well, not even the resources. It's more of informational hierarchy. If the president left, and so did the Secretary 00:20:00 Jack: of Defense, and so did the vice president and all the senators and all the mayors and all the congress people and all the judges. Cristina: That's a lot of people. Jack: If they all left, if they all left, everybody with some higher status, all of them, the world, in the world, all in one time, who's gonna take charge? Cristina: I don't know. Jack: Death is gonna happen f****** everywhere. Cristina: Everybody wants it, so people are just gonna be fighting for it. Jack: Who's enforcing the law? Cristina: Mm. Jack: Who's making the law? Who's gonna punish you? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: I think if elites leave chaos. Cristina: Okay, that's. Jack: Oh, right. We never think about it, but easy. So they set up up there. They decide, okay, keep sending resources, survival things. Get it going. So it's independent and we. Literal paradise. We've made away from these people. Cristina: But then they want to come back. Jack: After we've killed ourselves and died out here, then they could easily reclaim Earth without a struggle and have even more resources. An absolute paradise. Plus all the technology and crap that. Cristina: Was left behind, we'd still be here. There'd be still people on the planet. They'd just be more dangerous. Jack: Yeah, I think we'd eventually end up back in order. There'll be a lot of murders at first and it would be chaos and it would just settle again. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Most of us. Cristina: They wouldn't be able to like communicate with what's left of us or something. Jack: No. They would just immediately get off. We're like. Those guys are aliens. Cristina: Huh? Wouldn't we think they're aliens? We would. Jack: They come from outer space. We don't know. We've never seen them. Those are people who live on Mars. They're Martians. They're claiming they're human, but they're Martians. They came from Mars. Cristina: That's crazy. No, no, no. Jack: It wouldn't cause an apocalypse that feels like the ending. It would look crazy. It would be a nuts period in time. The Earth just kind of quickly went into absolute chaos. But I don't think it would be apocalyptic. I don't think it would end. I think many most people would still be alive. Cristina: But you think if there is an apocalypse, the government are the people that would know that it was coming? Jack: I think only if they are responsible for it. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Which would be the same as a nuclear apocalypse. That's government's fully aware. So viral. It was probably the government trying to take control. That was what that was. Covet was. Cristina: Okay. Jack: That's covert. Was. It's American government facilities testing on viruses in China. Cristina: Were they trying to attack. They weren't trying to attack China or anything. Jack: What the h*** they were doing or why this. These people were always saying are the enemy. We're always working with. Cristina: If you're working with them. And they. Yes, we do swear they are the enemy. Jack: People are idiots. They'll believe whatever they're told. Those people are bad. Oh. But winning trades. Cristina: Something's not right. Jack: Something's not right. Yeah. No. They're always good. They're always bad. Cristina: They're always bad. Jack: Oh yeah. So definitely like nuclear apocalypse or viral outbreaks seem high for them knowing. Cristina: But nuclear. Who would even. Jack: And that's a total destruction situation. Cristina: Yeah. No one really wants that. Jack: But if it happened the governments would know. Cristina: Mmm. I guess. Yeah. Jack: You know, because everybody would start firing at everybody. The country that knows it's going down is gonna launch in every direction it had aimed. Because f*** you guys that knew and didn't stop them. And then every one of those countries are gonna do the same thing. It's a chain reaction. Cristina: I think everyone's just gonna. Jack: Everybody. I think if a single nuke goes out, all the nukes go out. Cristina: No, I Hope not. Jack: That's why they're called deterrence. Nuclear deterrent. You're not going to use it because they're going to use it too. Cristina: But once someone does, that's it. That's really it. Jack: A single one. Everybody uses it. That's the problem. That's actually the premise of Fallout, I believe. Cristina: Does someone used it? Jack: Someone use it? I think the world is affected, not just the United States. Cristina: I wish we knew more. Jack: Yeah, but that. Those are my. The government knows scenarios. Cristina: I think the government knows. Jack: So you think it's one of those two? No. There's an apocalypse. Could be other things. Maybe religious people are right. Maybe it's gonna be a religious apocalypse. Cristina: That one's a tough one because it's always like. I don't know. To them the world is always worse or it's getting worse. It's just bad people are immoral. They're monsters. It's like, are they. 00:25:00 Cristina: Has things changed? Is there more horrible people than there were? Jack: Well, no, but let's assume that the ending of the story is right. Even if it getting worse isn't. Then there's still an apocalypse. But then which religion. Which religion is right? Jesus is gonna come back. Everybody. Cristina: Because we're American. He is coming back. Jack: Everybody. Everybody. Over and most apocalypses have that happen. Some kind of a war. Most narratives are some kind of. Cristina: We're not even part of the war. Jack: At least not in the Bible. Cristina: I don't think so. Jack: I think. Cristina: You think there is a story. Jack: I think it's either Norse mythology or Greek mythology. The narrative is that one side uses the souls of the dead to fill their army out or some crap like that. I don't know if it's either one of those two. I know some religions. Cristina: What about the humans? The humans are used or. No. Are they just in the middle of it? Jack: The humans who are alive? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No. Everybody would die. Cristina: Everyone would die. And then our souls are part of the fight. Jack: Yeah. This. The. Basically the. Whether you've died or not, once the apocalypse begins, eventually you're just going to die. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because plot. And then you're going to be. You're going to join one side or the other, whatever. Cristina: I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me either because. What about all the people who don't want to choose a side? Jack: No. You force them to a side. It doesn't matter which. Yeah. I don't know why it makes sense as a story, but let's say that's right, then. Okay. Cristina: I don't know, it's just hard to imagine that, like, we're all told there's evil and good and you gotta fight for one and everyone's gonna really be. Jack: Easily choose, like, well, no, you're not choosing me. You know, there's good and evil. You're not told which one is which. Both are telling you, I'm good, I'm good there. Cristina: You like, why even fight then? Jack: No, because one of them is lying. Cristina: That's. Jack: And it's up to you to decide. Cristina: Why would you trust yourself in that type of decision? Jack: Because there is no option. There's a f****** war. Cristina: There is. And you're already dead. Why does it matter? Jack: You're gonna cease to exist. I guess would be dying after you've died is ceasing to exist. Cristina: But how do you know that's right? Jack: You don't. I don't know. These things that are already there are telling you it's right. Cristina: I know, it's just hard to believe after you die, like, whatever anyone says, it's hard to believe what they're saying. No, unless you believe everything everyone says. It's either everyone's lying so I can't do anything, or everyone's telling the truth now. Jack: I don't know what to do. You're thinking about this wrong way. Look at it like this. If you are a Christian and you die, and when you die, you are in this sort of blank slate place and you walk infinitely in what looks like nothing and eventually you come up to a white gate with a golden fence. Wait, no, if. Golden fence, A white fence with a golden gate. There you go, a white fence with a golden gate and a dude who's gonna. Who tells you to stand in front of him and he's gonna talk to you before he lets you in. You can for sure question, but you kind of know that. D*** the Christians got it based on all the clues. You know, you don't have to be like in. I guess everything else they said after this point is wrong. After the initial point you're kind of like, well, they got this part right. I might as well just follow the narrative now. Cristina: Well then what if you get in there and then it ends up being heaven, h*** or whatever? Jack: It could totally be the case. Then some of the parts of the story were messed up and as you got, but you got to follow it. But you're not gonna see the white pearly gate and question it and be like, well, I guess this could be fake. Like, no, you died and now you're here. Be like, oh, I get. What else can you do? I guess you're in the new plane and you have nothing else to go off of. You're not just deciding, well, after this point, they must be wrong. Okay, they got, they got it this right, but that's it. Like, based on what? So you just kind of roll with it. I don't think after the first confirmations you're just gonna turn on it, you know, so you die and you get to the war zone or whatever, and they're like, you gotta pick a side. You're not gonna be like, I can't trust which side resonates with you. You're gonna go with that. Okay, well, it kind of looks like this. And based on that text, it was kind of like, this side's a good guy, so I'll go there. And if you're wrong, you're wrong. The end. Cristina: Is there even a right and wrong? Jack: The Bible thinks there is. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You know, religions think there are. Islam thinks there is. 00:30:00 Jack: The Quran says, oh, there's good and evil. Okay, Jews don't think there is. Cristina: They don't? Jack: No, no. If you're going for Orthodox and traditional Judaism, there are many things that are absolutely different. Heaven isn't a thing that was added later. It's not real. Cristina: How much later? Jack: Quite, quite a while. There was no heaven or h*** for an infinity. Judaism did not have that concept. That was added much later. There's so many texts, so many texts. Cristina: With Jesus around the time. Jack: It wasn't added with Jesus, it was added prior to Jesus. I think the first mentions in the older texts start at the end of the Torah. But if said that at the end of the Torah or it came with Jesus. I know that most of the Torah does not have a single mention. And they were. The first parts were written in that order, so there's no existence of h***. It was just later it showed up somewhere. Cristina: So you just die. Jack: You just die and kind of join, become one. Actually, as a rabbi once explained it to me, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know what happens. We're not divine. And that's legit. Fair, bro. Any Christian that's like, no, this happens. It's no, no, no. You couldn't know. Cristina: You couldn't know. Jack: You couldn't know. You're not divine. You're not here and there. You don't know you're gonna be there. When you're there, you're just there. You're not over here. Cristina: It's too complicated to imagine that the Apocalypse is gonna be just one of the Bible endings. Not Bible, but religious endings is right. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because there's too many. There's too many. Jack: Well, that's even more proof that one of them would get it right, I guess. Cristina: But it's not like they knew. It feels too random. Or maybe. Jack: Depends how much of it they got right. If it's like a single detail and the rest of it is wrong. Cristina: But. Jack: All right, we'll give it to you. Cristina: Because then. Jack: Yeah, okay, that's random chance. But it's like, if you got every beat okay, like, then how do you figure it out, bro? There's no way you could have predicted that a tree in this forest is gonna fall. Then an explosion is gonna happen across the world at exactly this second. Cristina: Some horns are gonna sound. Jack: Yeah. From the whole sky, everywhere, all the time. Exactly at this date is gonna sound. And everybody's gonna hear all at once. Like, how'd you predict all of this? That guy knew something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Versus, like, during a storm, we're gonna. The world is gonna burst and bust into flame. And it's like, what if a weird volcanic eruption happened and it created a storm? Cristina: Because of all the block, Then obviously he was right. Jack: Like, yeah, that's chance. We could, like, give it to you because you got it. But like, random chance said that a volcanic eruption of a super volcano threw enough debris into the air and created an entire electrical storm. And then I think another super fire. Cristina: Volcano can explode and, like, kill us all. Jack: Absolutely. Absolutely. That could totally happen. Cristina: Could that just be the end? Jack: Yeah. I wonder how long after a super volcano would we all be dead? That would be an apocalypse. But like, what speed of an apocalypse would it be? Cristina: The perfect amount of speed. I don't know. Jack: Perfect amount of speed that maybe that's. Cristina: What'S happening on the road. I don't know. Jack: It could. It could. We have no idea. What the h***. Cristina: No idea. Jack: The ash everywhere and the blocked sky. Cristina: Yeah, we gotta see how long that does take. Jack: Super volcano. Cristina: Super volcano. Jack: Interesting. So now, I never thought about that. I always thought, like, nuclear warfare, but. Cristina: In Japan must sink or Japan sinks or whatever it was called. There was a volcano that exploded, but it didn't destroy the world. Jack: It wasn't a super volcano. Cristina: It wasn't a super volcano. It was a pretty big. It felt like it was super Mount Fuji. Jack: It was a volcano that's not super. That's not super. Cristina: What qualifies a volcano to be super? Jack: I think super volcanoes are so large, they don't look like volcanoes to Us. Cristina: They're so large they don't look like volcanoes. Jack: Yeah. I could be wrong in just saying s*** like if anybody who doesn't agree with this, comment below. That doesn't even make sense. But yes, wherever you'd go, comment, comment there and let us know. Cristina: In Spotify you could comment below or at least on your phone. I'm pretty sure you can. I don't know if. Jack: Oh I guess if you listen on Spotify, comment below on your phone, just comment. I forget we're on Spotify. Yeah, interesting. Okay. Okay. Super volcano breakdown of series of events. Right. Initial 00:35:00 Jack: weeks is from the day of eruption to three weeks. So eruption blast is going to kill thousands of people instantly and ashfall is going to suffocate the nearby populations. That's instant death. Instant death. Cristina: Instant as in like it's immediate. Jack: The people close to the blast. Yeah, this is just within the first three weeks. This is all happening. Cristina: Okay. Jack: All of these people are f*****. Then transport and flights completely are grounded. There's no planes going up. You can't see there's a lot of magnetism going on. There's a lot of chemicals in the sky. Food shortages are going to immediately start kicking in because of the inability to transport things in planes quickly. Oh and health care is going to get over overwhelmed right off the bat. Cristina: Okay. And that's all of, that's the first few weeks. Jack: All of that is the first three weeks. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So absolute chaos in the first three weeks. This is super volcano apocalypse now. Crop failures are going to follow in the first, first to three months from ash spread. Drinking water contamination is going to be widespread. Global supply chain disruptions are going to ridiculous. Starvation is going to begin in the poorest areas and the death toll is going to reach millions globally in the first three months. Cristina: The first three months. Oh my gosh. Jack: Then from three to six months we're going to have temperature drops and it's going to cause the crop to fail entirely. Food hoarding and riots are going to start to increase as people start to get hungry and desperate to in random locations. Respiratory illness is going to spread in an uncontrollable rate as the exposure to the ash is going to be absurd. Cristina: Wonder how much people are left at this point. Jack: Migration from affected areas is going to begin and the death toll is going to be in the hundreds of millions. Cristina: Okay. Jack: From three to six months. Six months to a year. Nuclear winter is going to cause mass starvation and infrastructure breakdown in all regions. We're going to have disease spread due to poor sanitization sanitization, sanitation and governments collapse in many regions around the world. And we're going to start reaching the billions at this point, in the first year to two years, the persistent cold is going to kill surviving crops. Cannibalism is going to begin around this place. Population drops to survivalists almost exclusively. Global communication ends completely. And the death toll is going to be roughly over 90% of humanity in the first two years. Cristina: The first two years we're done. Jack: The first two years is 90% of humanity. Year three to five, Ash begins to settle. Worldwide, small agricultural zones reappear. Few communities rebuild infrastructure. Survivors adapt to the new ecosyste. Some and remaining humans, millions, the entire Earth collectively, only millions would remain would start to rebuild. So we would have the new. So that would be an apocalypse. Yeah, I think that's the post apocalypse. So we don't need everybody to cease. What we were seeing during the flood was the most crazy of events. It was so exaggerated. Cristina: Wait, you're talking about the Bible flood? Jack: The flood, yes, that Bible flood. If that was real, it's so exaggerated that only one family. The real idea would be you didn't know everybody on Earth. You thought everybody around you was all that existed. And maybe around the Earth after that flood happened, many people just like you survived. And those people repopulated. And that explains the giant differences between cultures. Cristina: You think they thought I don't understand so but like once they got off the boat, they would have noticed if there was other people? No. Jack: Why? Everybody's dead. Cristina: But there are people out. Jack: There are people out there. So it's Earth. Cristina: But when they're breeding with their children or their children are breeding with themselves, like they never realize or look around, I guess it's just them. Until eventually I'll paint this picture for you. Jack: Noah makes the ark. Noah gets on the ark. There's many people around Noah. There are also already natives in the Americas and in South America and people way over in Asia and in the depths of Africa. Migration has happened long. 00:40:00 Jack: It's been hundreds of thousands of years. Migration. We're everywhere. And then the flood happens. Now he doesn't know that people are this far spread out. Since the last ice age, the ground connecting where they migrated over doesn't exist anymore. It was ice. They walked over ice. It melted away. Now you don't even. It's been so many generations since that happened. You have no perspective. But you're here. Flood happens, everybody around you dies. All of them. You never see somebody again who wasn't in your family. You think Earth drowned and you wrote history. You're the last people surviving who know how to write and tell stories. Cristina: How many generations did it take before it was not just his family breeding with itself? Jack: Well, it would have to repopulate the entire general area. Everybody was his family, no matter what. It's. Until we start going into, like, they met Asians or they met South Africans, or they crossed and met people in. In South America or in North America. Cristina: Very strange. Jack: But everybody else is related to them to something. So. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: At least to the top guy. Cristina: Yes. Which I guess, in the end of the day, doesn't that mean, like, if you believe in the Bible, you also believe you're part of Noah's family? Yes. Jack: It would have to be. You're part of his lineage. Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's Noah and it's. Jack: Yeah, we literally have us. The way I like to think about it is as follows. Adam and Eve. They create all of humanity that goes completely out of control. Then the destruction of everybody but the family. That will be the new Adam and Eve, pretty much. And then they again do that. They are 2.0. That's also why they are considered to be the important. Cristina: Except also Eve died. I. I guess you got to get rid of Eve no matter what. Eve does not exist, because isn't she the one? Oh, no. I'm thinking of the different story crap. All these Bible stories are ridiculous. I was thinking of the lady who looks back at the city and then she dies. That's not a. That's a different apocalypse, Right? Jack: That's not apocalypse. This is a city. Cristina: Oh, that's just the city. Jack: This is the world, allegedly. Cristina: Okay. Jack: People who believe in the Christian Bible and in the Torah believe they are descendants of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Everybody is a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay, that makes sense, I guess. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: In this weird way. All right. Jack: But that still means we're descendant of Adam. Because you can follow a line between Adam and Noah. Noah is some descendant of Adam. Everybody is. But really, everybody is also a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It's not that everybody's a descendant of Adam, but not a descendant of both Cain and Abel. You're either one or the other. You get my point. No, it doesn't work that way. Everybody's a descendant of Noah. Now, if Noah had five children, everybody's a descendant of one of those five children. Nobody's the descendant of both. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Or all five. I guess there's five. Cristina: Unless they made it with each other. Then you were. Jack: Unless they made it with each other. Yeah. Cristina: At least two of them. Jack: Yes, exactly, exactly, exactly. You would be a descendant of at least two. Yeah, but that would still mean descendant of. We're all descendants of Noah, according to this narrative. Cristina: Okay, that's very strange narrative. Okay. Jack: Now it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. That caused the Earth to flood. Cristina: I guess. Jack: So it must have been some crazy rain. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And was there no water on Earth before then? Where'd the water go? Cristina: Where did it go? Jack: It went to the center. Not the center, but it sank into the Earth. The Earth absorbed the water because then. Cristina: Where did it come from? Jack: Interesting. Let's assume the story is true. The story is true. Okay. What are we really talking about right now? We are talking about some sort of meteor fall that as it was entering the atmosphere, the fire was burning it down, the water and it just kept evaporating in our atmosphere, filling it out. There had to be some crazy. But they were all small rocks of H2O just burning in our atmosphere, filling it up with water, water, water. And Dennis just starts. There must have been a crazy colossal meteor that just missed us. That was really gonna end the job. Cristina: But like an ice ball. Jack: Yeah, Giant ice ball coming through and, you know, a bunch of surrounding smaller balls, but it passed really, really, really, really close. Maybe Earth didn't have a bunch of water yet, but really, really close. Or maybe Earth had right amount of water. Maybe we consider the ocean isn't directly connected to the center. 00:45:00 Jack: Maybe that's just a pool that has no exit and all the water is stuck there. But maybe there's holes here and there where water can go down. So when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, the drain after the flood was quick because everywhere else the water would dissipate through. It could get down into the surface. But where the oceans are, there's no escape. So a giant meteor is coming through. It's. It's an ice rock, an asteroid coming through. And it has a bunch of small. Many, many. It must be huge. It must be some moon sized rock that just barely missed us. And then we're getting bombarded by the smaller ones that are burning up in the atmosphere. Cristina: No one notices that. Jack: I don't know. And how would he have known? That's the other problem. If we assume this is true, how would he have known? The billabo? How could you just know there's a giant rock from space? It couldn't be that. He had to be like a meteorologist or something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And be predicting the movements of the clouds. I don't know. I don't know how do you flood the Earth? Cristina: That's kind of crazy. Jack: How do we scientifically ground this in a way that makes sense? How'd you flood the Earth? It couldn't have been. It had to be just this area. Cristina: It had to. That would make the most sense. That makes the most sense. Jack: Like everybody's ever been around is flooded. Cristina: Yeah, that's it. Like if he was in that weird Greek town that was flooded. Was it Greek Indian town? Oh, that was on the water and it just disappeared. Because they flooded it themselves. Jack: Yeah, but they knew that other people existed and they were. It's not. That's a small area. They could have easily traveled on foot somewhere else. You have to be such a. It still had to be a pretty epic flood. Or. These are people who never traveled anywhere. And it was. I mean, I guess maybe it was really hard to travel. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: A time where? In an area that was underdeveloped. Cristina: And are they on an island? Jack: No, but just assume we're. They're in an area that's underdeveloped and they are in. It's desert. Underdeveloped desert. And there isn't a lot of other places to go to. You guys are some of the first people. It's only been a couple of generations, right? Man. How many generations has it been between. Cristina: Between him and Adam? Jack: Between him and Adam. Yeah. How many people exist at the time of Noah? Cristina: Look that up. Jack: Okay, okay, okay, I got some answers here. In the entire planet at the time of Noah, there was roughly about 10 million people in all of Earth. Cristina: Okay, Right. That's still a nice amount of people. Jack: Yes. Now in the area directly surrounding Noah, like his general region, there was about a million of those people. That was one of the starting points of all people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And like that and Africa probably had the two largest populations. Cristina: Okay, I thought you were saying like a hundred people. Jack: No, no. In that region. But it's important to keep perspective. Noah existed in a time and place that. I was right. Travel was nearly impossible to any faraway community. They didn't know other communities existed. And there was no worldview. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In the time of Noah. They did not. Cristina: That was their world. Jack: That was their world. They didn't consider that there were other people farther out. That wasn't a thought. All that existed is everybody you've seen. If you saw somebody that you've never met before, they claim they were from a far off place. Now suddenly that place exists in your world. And that often didn't happen. Most people thought them and their closest communities were all that ever existed, which. Cristina: Is a big size community. Jack: But okay, so relatively speaking, he would have thought so in his direct surrounding area, about 500,000 to a million people. Right. But his perspective based on who he might have ever seen and who he has seen has ever seen, he would have thought that There were about 10,000 people in all of Earth. Cristina: 10,000 people. Jack: 10,000 people in all of Earth. Additionally, his region could have easily flooded in its entirety and killed everybody if it, if a flood happened. Let me correct. I couldn't easily have flooded. If a flood did happen there, it could have easily flooded the entire region and killed everybody. So yes, he could have honestly believed, but everybody died. Cristina: A million people or the 10,000. Jack: He thought 10,000 in his region that we would. Where we would point at it on a map. There were about a million people. He was so far from most of those people, he probably didn't know they existed. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In his small within the dot, we would point out from million people. 00:50:00 Jack: Those people are so spread out between each other that it wasn't beneficial just. Cristina: Losing a million people. I mean, a thousand, ten thousand people. He probably would be like losing the world. Jack: The world ended. If 10,000 people died, he thought everybody was gone. Cristina: Okay. Jack: If his area flooded and 10,000 people died, he's like, there's nobody left around me. By the time the flood is gone, he never saw another person ever again. Cristina: All right, so then we're not all connected to him. I mean, maybe they want to believe. Jack: No, that's the Christian Bible. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Okay, but definitely his belief could be justified. And most of the world never even realized that happened. Cristina: Yeah, it's just a flood. Jack: It's just a flood. That was fair enough. Kind of large, but just in his spot. Cristina: But in the real, in like right now, could a flood like that happen? Well, in that could not have happened because that didn't happen. But like, could the world get flooded? And how Earth? Jack: Yes, it would have to be like I said, it would have to be like a giant ridiculous rock coming through that's all ice and bringing mad small ice rocks. Maybe it made impact long before it got anywhere near us and broke into a billion trillion tiny little pieces. So small. Cristina: It's gonna be a lot of water coming from somewhere else. Jack: Yeah, they're all just ice so that the moment they hit our atmosphere, they start just melt away. They just melt away quickly, all of them. But one does it fine. It just turned into a little cloud and you know, but then another and then another, and then another and then another. And it Keeps happening. It keeps happening and keeps happening. It keeps happening. It keeps happening. Cristina: How huge could asteroids get? Can they get planet size, moon size? Jack: Yeah, yeah. This won't be that. And also something like that would be making impact of crap left and right is huge. Gravity. It would be aiming at other crap. By default we have too much gravity. And plus whatever gravity of the thing it would just have made impact eventually become small anyways. That's why they're usually certain sizes. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And. And we literally just call things that are those sizes rogue planets. Cristina: You know, rogue ice planet hits us. Jack: Yeah. It would have to be a rogue ice planet because we wouldn't call it a meteor or an asteroid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It just know you've crossed the threshold now you're even rarer. But yeah. We can expect big enough sizes and then get bombarded regularly until it starts to become too packed and starts to rain little by little versus a couple of days of rain without stop. And the rain always, always, always is heavier than a minute ago. Indefinitely more. Cristina: But what are we dying? Jack: Would. I mean a lot of people would if it caught us off guard. Well no, the problem is with our current day technology wouldn't happen. Cristina: Both. And we'll just be both people. Jack: We'll be both people. Cristina: But could we survive off of just fishing? I guess would be the way because there's no plants us like you get seaweed I guess. I don't know. Like obviously the food. There will be a huge problem in the future. Jack: If we jump a thousand years in the future and we say that the planet is always flooded. We've adapted and we figured it out in the apocalypse scenario because you can think in the future. A thousand years in the future plants adapted and became the water plant survived. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And plants that could be drowned and handle it have adopt adapted and we've figured out ways to get them. And we've grown plants on the sides of buildings and on top of buildings that are floating and crap. And still if a big enough flood we've made skyscrapers those are going to be packed with people. Cristina: Yeah. So you'll think it won't really be the end of the world. It'll be the end of whatever we had. Life as we know it's like yeah, it's going to be a whole different type of life. Jack: And I still. Yeah. I think if we. If it's coming, we know because we have the technology to prepare and see it coming from a million miles away and turn society into all. Cristina: You can't just flood in a day like you Just can't. Like no automatic. Everything's flooded. Jack: No. Cristina: That kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. There's no chance. But like, how could that even. Jack: I mean, we could change the scenario a little and say we see nothing in space and then tomorrow it's the moon's distance from us. Do we have the time to start building the boats? We won't. It's gonna flood. But now how bad is the flood gonna be if it's. It's still not gonna happen overnight. No, it's gonna build up slowly. Cristina: So you can still plan. Jack: Yeah, we won't. People are gonna die. We don't have the facilities. Cristina: Yes. Jack: For this. Cristina: People will die. But it's not never gonna be as high as other scenarios. Jack: No. 1 we're throwing. Most people are throwing everything out of skyscrapers. Leave the bottom. Everybody get the f*** away from the building. We're emptying every floor from bottom the top and stocking all the skyscrapers with all the food, all the food we could find, all the skyscrapers. Scientists 00:55:00 Jack: are going to give us an average based on how much rain they think for how long. And hopefully they're right. And it doesn't go beyond that point. And we're going to go. Starting at the top and we're just going to the. When the rain begins, as the flooding begins, we will start to inhabit these buildings more and more and keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up until we can't go up anymore. Not everybody's gonna fit. Cristina: No. Jack: Billions are gonna fit. Cristina: People find other things. Jack: Boats for days. Cristina: Raptors, Rafters. Raft. Yeah, raft. Boats. Jack: Oh, rafts, things. Cristina: Little boats. Jack: Yeah, yeah. Just boats and crap canoes. Everywhere would be fine. A bunch of people be fine. Cristina: The. Jack: Other problem is, is this gonna be just flooding or is this gonna be storming? If it's gonna be storming, people are on boats. They, the skyscrapers. Cristina: I was thinking of flooding, but like it could be storming. I don't know. I don't know. Jack: No, it's f*****. Especially if trees get swallowed up. Cristina: Yes. Jack: If trees are underwater, you're f*****. Trees stop floods. They slow down waves and movement. If you have a giant forest by the ocean before your city, the trees slow down any kind of impactful water from gaining momentum. But if it goes over the trees and a wave can just roll over it, then what? Cristina: But would like the world becomes flooded because of this asteroid? Are there also more storms because things are different? Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Cristina: Like, is that a product of what's going on yes. Jack: The humidity level is going to rise ridiculously. It's going to make everything way f****** hotter. The sun is going to directly be hitting water all the time, creating vapor consistently. That's going to rise and create an infinite cycle of rain. After the ice finishes landing on Earth, the amount of rain that has established is going to cycle through indefinitely. If it floods over trees, that's crazy amount of flooding. And it's just going to cycle indefinitely. So it's going to be so much humidity with the sun always hitting and there's going to be moisture in the air always. And there's going to be vapor in the air always. And clouds are going to be be packed and dense always because the sun is always hitting. And it's just going to be an infinite cycle of rain and rain and rain and rain. Cristina: Okay? Jack: It won't unflood. It will never unflood beyond a certain amount of water. Cristina: Okay? Jack: I'll never unflood unless I'm right. And the earth has gaps underneath in which the wash the water will just go. And what we see as oceans isn't because there's more water beneath them, but rather because that's. That's an area that water can't escape from. If that's the case and everywhere else, water will eventually sink through the ground through, okay. And it might be a really long time before we have what we consider dry. But if that's the case, people in skyscrapers will be fine if they have the resources. People on the boats will probably die because of the storming and crap until the water sinks in. Cristina: What if they're on big, those big, big, big boats? The big. Jack: It depends, right? Because the big. The bigger the boat, the safer by default. It depends on the type of wave too. Really really small boats on really really big waves do fine because it'll unnotably just the wave is so big it doesn't affect the small boat. It would go under it. If you have a really big boat and a really big wave, you're f*****. Cristina: Oh. Jack: If you have a really big boat and many small waves, you're fine. If you have a small boat and many small waves, you're okay. Cristina: If you have a submarine, you're good. Jack: Depends how high the water went. You just need to be below where the waves would affect you. Cristina: So can you like what would not work out? For a summary, if the world is flooded, like what? Jack: No, they could just submarines already in the ocean world floods again. Good. You're fine. Anybody on the submarine is fine. They don't Even notice. Cristina: Okay, they're fine. Jack: Water over them, it's just take longer to get up. There's more pressure. You got to go higher up now. I guess so, because the water level's rising everywhere. Cristina: Well, hopefully they can figure that out. Jack: But I guess flooding could happen. I don't know if it's the most likely or even probably not. Cristina: Probably not at all. Jack: But what else could happen? What other apocalypse could there be? The volcano is pretty badass one. I think that's possibility. But we don't know. That's random chance. And they we would start rebuilding after five years. Cristina: I don't know. Probably that government making something that accidentally. Jack: Leaks out a virus, right? That feels so right. They're gonna be like, no, we're just gonna do a little of it to scare them. Cristina: It 01:00:00 Cristina: happening once makes it feel like, okay, it could happen again. It happened once, man. I made it even the first time. Jack: Dude. I'm sure many of these other diseases and things that have rolled by in the past were the same thing. Cristina: Exactly. People already question a lot of other things of like, was this the government's cancer is probably. Yes, yes. Jack: So probably right. Cristina: So yeah, maybe that's most likely. Jack: It's the government's full of s***, bro. So, yeah, I really, really. I think so too. I specifically think some kind of a viral outbreak, something similar to Covid that we just. That really goes rogue to control. It's. Oh yeah, it's Covid 2.0. We're gonna throw it out there and. Cristina: You know, we got pretty sure there was a cop two and three. Jack: Yeah, whatever. Some Covid chapter two. And they're gonna have like a vaccine or something. They'll be like, no, we. We built vaccine before we threw it out there, so we're good. And then it mutates one step too far and it's like, crap, we don't have a vaccine for where it went. Cristina: So dumb. Jack: And then it's like, oh crap. And anybody who catches it has liver failure by the next day. And it's like, d***, everybody's dying everywhere. It's like, d***, bro. Cristina: Yeah, that's exactly what's go happen. Jack: Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Some crap like that. Cristina: But then. So at the end of the day, the government knows. Jack: I guess it would have to be an apocalypse that was caused by the government. And they know. But afterwards they wouldn't tell us. In the moment, they'll never admit to it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because we would revolt. Didn't want that. The whole point was to try to take control. They're going to make us revolt further. They're not going to tell us. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So that's definitely. I do agree. I do it. I think that's the most possible. I don't know what the point of this conversation was. Why were we trying to figure out what was the most likely? Cristina: I thought that was your topic of the day. Jack: No, no, we never got to that. I guess we'll have to do that next time. Cristina: What? You said this was it. Jack: I know, but we had to figure out how the world is going to end. And apparently it's going to be a viral outbreak that the government is going. Cristina: To cause by accident. Ish. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Semi is not really. I don't know. Like, it's not intentional, but they definitely let it happen. Jack: Yeah, I mean, it's like it's. It's basically the argument for 9 11. Right. What that is like, you think they did it? I mean, if they didn't do it, they knew it was gonna happen and they, like, they didn't stop it. Cristina: Okay, yeah, something like that. Jack: You know, it's the argument for 9 11. I mean, I won't say they did it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But like. Like they knew they had intel and they could have easily. And they were like, it'll be in our benefit if we let it happen. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: As it goes. Cristina: That's. Yeah, that's it. Jack: I guess just a moment of it'll. Yeah, sure. It'll be in our benefit if it gets out. We'll easily contain it. The scare will be in our benefit now they're scared because most of them died. And they're like, we don't know what to do. Cristina: But that's. That's the thing. That's what happened with COVID I guess, in a way too. Jack: A bunch of them. That's. Cristina: That's it. Jack: So I guess. Cristina: I guess next week we'll find out. Jack: Yeah, next week we'll find out. But at least this week we know that the apocalypse is definitely gonna happen. Cristina: And Noah was exaggerating. Noah's was. Noah's story was exaggerated. Jack: Exaggerated. It does not. It doesn't fit, man. It's crazy. It's impossible. But, yeah, whatever. Anyways, so the next time we'll. We'll definitely get to that stuff and you guys can tell us what. What apocalypse you guys think is going to be the most likely. Just sit down. Cristina: Think about. You think actually knows it, because that was part of it too. Yeah. Jack: If the government isn't the knowing party and somebody. Oh, it was because we were trying to find out if Nostradamus was a predictive genius or something. Not really. But like, if somebody were to to by chance know for a fact, yes, Apocalypse is coming, what would be the most likely scenario? And it would definitely be the government having accidentally made it themselves. Cristina: Yeah. So if you have a different answer to this question, let us know. Jack: Yes. Contact us. Send us a message at. Just convopod on X, on Facebook, on Tick tock, on Instagram, wherever you want. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most overpowered thing in the world. If you know somebody who has even better answers, tell them to listen to it and get ideas and then tell us. Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. S.A. 01:05:00 Cristina: good morning. Good morning whoever dub attempt. The podcast is hosted by Cristina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black. 01:05:29

Rambling 294: Surviving the Apocalypse

Rambling 294: Surviving the Apocalypse

In a world filled with uncertainty, the idea of an apocalypse is both fascinating and terrifying. In our latest podcast episode, we, your hosts Jack and Cristina, delve into the absurdity of apocalyptic scenarios and offer practical survival strategies that anyone can adopt. From the looming threat of nuclear war to the more whimsical idea of a zombie apocalypse, we explore various potential end-of-the-world scenarios. The conversation kicks off with a light-hearted discussion about how often apocalyptic predictions are made, and how they can sometimes feel like a recurring theme in our lives. We then dive into the serious implications of global conflicts and the potential for World War III, highlighting the current geopolitical tensions between superpowers. With countries like Russia, China, and North Korea on the brink, we discuss the reality of preparing for such events and the importance of being informed. But what would you actually do in the event of an apocalypse? Our discussion takes a practical turn as we outline essential survival strategies. We emphasize the need to leave major cities, where chaos is likely to erupt first. Instead, we suggest heading to rural areas where resources might be more accessible, and the likelihood of encountering other survivors is lower. Jack and Cristina also talk about the importance of learning basic survival skills before disaster strikes. From purifying water to setting animal traps, we encourage listeners to equip themselves with knowledge that can make all the difference in a survival situation. Libraries become a crucial resource in our plan, as they hold valuable information on local flora and fauna, which can aid in food sourcing. The podcast also touches on the practicality of using bicycles for transportation during an apocalypse. Unlike cars, which can be noisy and easily tracked, bikes offer a stealthy and efficient means of travel. Our hosts humorously question why bicycles are seldom seen in popular zombie apocalypse narratives, despite their clear advantages. As the conversation unfolds, we delve into the psychological aspects of survival, discussing how trust and community can play pivotal roles in navigating a post-apocalyptic world. We recognize the importance of building relationships and finding like-minded individuals who can contribute to a shared survival effort. Ultimately, this episode serves as both a thought-provoking exploration of potential apocalyptic scenarios and a practical guide to preparing for the unexpected. Whether you're a survival enthusiast or simply curious about the end of the world, there's something for everyone in our engaging discussion. Join us for this enlightening episode and equip yourself with the knowledge to navigate whatever the future may hold. Tune in now, and let's prepare for the apocalypse together!

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  • Zombie Apocalypse
  • Tyrannical Government
  • Purifying Water
  • Hiding vs Running
  • Bicycles

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Rambling 294: Surviving the Apocalypse Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling podcast. I am your host, Jack. Cristina: And I am your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is a show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And today we have some something quite interesting to dive into. So the apocalypse is upon us. Cristina: It was always. Every year. Every year there's an apocalypse. Jack: Yeah, I'm sure we've done a couple of apocalypse based episodes too. Like possible apocalypses based on statistical probability. I remember we did the death clock thing. Cristina: Yeah. And just wild, like random people online with their ideas of the apocalypses because of like the Bible told them or whatever. Jack: Yes, yes, yes. And there's a bunch of apocalypses. So today I want to talk about the apocalypse. I want us to discuss the coming apocalypse, which is the most likely, which I know we've done before. And then what we're gonna do in that moment. You know what, in the moment of the apocalypse. Cristina: Oh, what are we gonna do in the apocalypse? Okay, yeah, but there's something else. Jack: No, I don't know then. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: But yeah, and so there's like a global conflict taking place. Like a World War III is kind of starting between a bunch of countries that are all nuclear strapped. So like the nuke apocalypse seems real and possible. Cristina: No, no, I hope not. No. Yeah, but like we all got zombies, zombie nukes. That's awful. Actually both are awful. Jack: It. Well, it depends on the zombies. I think zombies are manageable to a certain degree. Like the majority of people are idiots and probably going down, but it's survivable with thought and a lack of panic, I think. Well, slow zombies. If it's like 28 days later or some. Cristina: The problem we're doing. Jack: Yeah, problem, you kill yourself. But yeah. So the war conflict, what's that look like? We have China. We have China and Russia hovering over Alaska right now. We have Russia teaming up with North Korea. We have. Cristina: Yeah. North Korea sent troops to Russia. Jack: To Russia to help with Ukraine. Well, and we have the. We have Russia and IRA teaming up with Iran to fight off the attacks from Israel. Israel's currently just N*** Germany it all up and just deciding we are the elite only race that matters. Let's extinguish everything else out here. Cristina: And what are we doing? Jack: We're funding Ukraine, which is against Russia and Israel, which is against Iran, which is teamed up with Russia. So we're just inherently on the opposite side of Russia. Cristina: Okay. Jack: We're not Even the main team here. No, we're finally just some side noise. Kind of like in World War II, where we're just some side noises. Showed up all late. Cristina: Hey, it ended. Jack: Because allegedly, American education says that America ended World War II. Cristina: Of course. Jack: Of course. Showed up last minute, and that's when we did it. Yep. It wasn't the amount of. It's like everybody else shows up and beats the crap out of the bad guy and. And then Goku shows up and saves the day. And it's like, come on, he fought everybody else, bro. Even if they were weak, each one of them picked that as hp. Just a little. Just a little. Cristina: A couple of hits here. Jack: A couple. You get here. He's like a 30% HP. You're showing up fully stamina up and fully HP'd up. About to fight a guy with half stamina and 30% HP who took a h*** of never. Cristina: How it goes. That guy was never using his full potential or whatever, his full strength. He was fighting at like 10 until Goku showed up. And then when he shows up, he's like, okay, I'm gonna go to 50 until Goku shows him. Oh, no. And then he goes up to 100, I guess, eventually. Jack: And then go. But that's. That doesn't. I mean, I guess it does happen a lot, but it's never that they're holding back intentionally. It's. In the case of Cell, he was trying to find his perfect form. He was trying to get there. His quest was that. Cristina: That's cool. Jack: In the case of Frieza, she. Cristina: He. Jack: He. Cristina: I think it's a he. Jack: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a he as well. He just didn't have a reason to power up. You know, 00:05:00 Jack: the apes, the Saiyans who become apes would power up at random. There was no pattern to it. It's just like, let's power up and destroy some. Oh, you know. Yeah. They would just do it to ease their job of taking over a planet or something. You know, easy stuff. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But there were a couple of, like. I think also Boo was merely chance who he absorbed affected his power. Okay, so he wasn't like, picking a form. He didn't know what he would turn into. Cristina: Yeah, but then who is this? What is World War II? Jack: Like, World War II? Well, it's definitely. I don't know. It ain't any of them. Because that's just a pattern of repetition when it comes to Dragon Ball Z is a pattern of. Everybody else fought them, then you show up and they were powering up the whole time while N*** Germany doesn't work that way. It was kind of always overpowered. And everybody else kind of whittled their numbers down and down and down and down. And then the United States showed up, and they're like, oh, we got some, like, help last second, but it wasn't, like, a lot of help. Everybody else did the legwork. Cristina: Yes. Jack: But. Cristina: Oh, that's more like Satan popping up after Goku did it. Oh, I guess. Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Hercule. It's Hercule showing up to take the. The credit. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: It's the United States job. What's not. Nobody there, like, you us take the credit. They do that for Hercule. They're like, take the credit so we can live in peace. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: In the case of the United States, you're like, we're taking the credit. Cristina: No one's gonna say anything. Jack: Nobody's gonna nuke all. Cristina: Anyone's tired. They just fought. They're all exhausted. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: They're like, we can't fight the US on this. We have no people left. And they are prominent right now because the bad guy's dead. They showed up, and we know they're the global terrorists. So here they are saying they're gonna take the credit for stopping us, and we just can't stop them. Just rewriting history. That's how we do. Cristina: That's cool. Jack: But, yeah, it's looking pretty intense. We got Russia, we got Iran, we got Israel. Israel, on the other hand, is attacking. Not just Iran, but they're attacking Lebanon, they're attacking Palestine. So that's three involved. Then. Russia is three. Because it's Russia, Iran, and North Korea. And we have China. And China in the. Yes. Four on the side of Russia. And we have. Then the United States backing Israel and. And Ukraine being backed by the United States and Canada backing Ukraine. So that's four there. Cristina: How many in total? Jack: Eight so far. Cristina: There's not more than that. Jack: So let's count. There's Russia. Cristina: Yes. Jack: There is Iran. There is North Korea, there is Lebanon and Palestine and Israel and the United States and Canada and Ukraine and China. So we're at 10. Cristina: 10. That's. That's love. Jack: 10. Cristina: That's not the world yet, though. Jack: No. But the problem here is it's close to a world war because China's a superpower, Russia is a superpower. The United States is a superpower. Israel is a superpower. Canada is a superpower. There's a lot of op powers at. Cristina: Play here, and you just need a Bunch of super superpowered people. Jack: Yeah, you need a bunch of numbers and a bunch of superpowered people. But at the moment this seems like the most likely. On the flip side, Elon Musk is out here making robot apocalypse come true. Cristina: You think he's gonna be faster? Jack: I don't know. Elon Musk is moving pretty quickly. He's looking to get off the plan. So he could definitely flick a switch on all the robots that he puts in control down here and then they'll start ruling over the world and he'll have Earth to his taking while he's not there. Cristina: That's a wild plan. Jack: Horizon. And he left knowing what would happen. Cristina: So he's just ripping off Horizon. Jack: Yeah, essentially he's going to Mars where he's going to control all the robots and robots can't get to him. Except eventually they might. Cristina: The ones here. Jack: Yeah, they'll eventually start replicating and make their own shuttles and take off after any kind of life. Hence the birth of the Borg. Cristina: That's still. That's Horizon too. And then he has to come back here because he knows how to reset them or like end it forever. Jack: Yeah. That's interesting that the Borg. Do we know the origin of the Borg? Because it kind of feels like this. Although I think we do know the origin of the Borg. I just forgot. Cristina: Don't remember. I don't remember the origin. Jack: But the Borg from Star Trek. For anybody listening, it's a race of robot people that weirdly they're all cyborgs and they take over flesh meat sex. Yeah, very interesting. 00:10:00 Jack: Which in no man's sky, the Borg is the Krovex because they are also all connected and share a single mind and hive mind, likeness and consciousness. Cristina: The robots, I thought the. Jack: Not. Cristina: Well, yes, I guess. But the little Sentinels. Is that what they're called? Jack: Yeah, they're also connected, but not to the Corvex. Cristina: Okay. But to each other. Yeah. So they're. Jack: They're all. Cristina: I guess. Jack: Yeah, sort of. Except they feel mechanical. Cristina: They feel mechanical. Jack: They seem mechanical. Like there's no conscious mind there, I guess. Like they are purely machine. While the Krovex do have a sense of identity. That's a sense of identity and they have a sense of unity altogether. Cristina: So I guess it is different. Yeah. The other guys are more like animals, I guess. Jack: Yes. But I do think. I mean everything goes wrong eventually. The Internet was supposed to be this sort of freeing, awesome information center and it become this corrupted, sort of twisted troll filled propaganda machine filled with misinformation. Yeah. Filled with misinformation and ads everywhere. Misinformation ads and p***. Cristina: Yes. And usually you can find three in one. Jack: Yeah. A lot of the time you could find misinforming p***. That is propaganda, like, 100%. I'm sure that's a thing that has to. Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Telling you who to vote for. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Jack: Maybe. I'm sure there's, like, sexy Kamala p***. She's like, vote for me. And with, like, fake news attached to it as she's telling you. You know why? Why you should vote for her. Cristina: Yeah. That's probably a thing. Jack: So there is. I don't know. Cristina: You think online's gonna do it? I don't think. Jack: No. I just think that that's proof of technology being whack. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: Oh. Not just technology. Anything that we create eventually gets corrupted somehow. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And if we're gonna have a bunch of robots serving people and robot cars bussing everybody and taxiing people all the time in your house is connected. What happens if a single virus gets in and it goes rogue? And it. They are. They're all connected. And they connect even more after they have a mind of their own. Cristina: And then you're connected to them because of the nanoshev. Jack: You're connect. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: Yes. Neural link. That's actually crazy. That's a totally possible apocalypse right there. Neural link is any Is. You know, enough people get it because it's convenient and you're bypassing the need to even own a computer. You could just, you know, put your hands in the air and a keyboard shows up and you see things people don't on your personal screen. But you can also screen. You can also screen share if you have one and I have one. I can be like, oh, you ready? Sync up. Boom. Now we're both seeing the same screen theaters would be mind blowing. You go to a movie theater, everybody syncs up. Nobody can inter. Like, if somebody walks in front of you, you can still see the movie. Yeah, because it's in front of them. Cristina: I can block people. Jack: You can block people? If somebody is too loud, you could probably cancel. Oh, my God. It's crazy. You can block people and erase their face just like static. The happening, Right? Cristina: Everything's happened in black mirror. It's just a show about tech apocalypse. Jack: Yeah, well, not necessarily tech apocalypse, but crap going wrong with tech one way or another. Cristina: Mm. And. Jack: Yeah, no, you could definitely. Like, that'd be a cool way to block somebody. But we. I mean, it'd be Normal at that point, I guess if you're raised with people just being able to block each other. Cristina: If you're raised in that, that's fine. Yeah. But, like, if we just ended up tomorrow doing that. That's insane. Jack: Yeah. It's f****** weird. Have a neural link and it affects what you see and what you hear. And I can just press a button or not even go into the menu and hit a thing and suddenly your face gets blurred out and your voice gets muffled forever until I decide to unblock you. Cristina: That's too much. I don't. I mean, that's great, I guess, if you really hate people like that. I don't know. Like, who'd actually want to do that? Jack: But interesting. You. And fair enough. Maybe you can make yourself private to people with neuralink. Cristina: So how do they avoid hitting you? Or, like, walking. Jack: You're not invisible. Cristina: Okay. But they can't see your face. Jack: They just can't see your face or. Cristina: Hear your voice because it's all fake. Jack: Yeah, it's like, you know, like it's censored bubbles. Cristina: No. 00:15:00 Cristina: Oh, my gosh. That's weird because then everyone's just gonna be their characters or whatever. It's gonna be like, yes, AI meets. Jack: You mean ar? Cristina: AR means AI. No. Yeah, I guess. AI. Jack: No, no. Ar. What are you looking for? Cristina: Like the online gaming where you're just characters. MMOs, MLS and things like that. Yes. Jack: Oh, virtual reality. Cristina: Virtual reality. Jack: VR. Cristina: VR. There you go. AR meets VR. Jack: Yeah, it's kind of be like that, walking around. Cristina: Never know what anyone actually looks or sounds like. Look, if they don't want us at. Jack: That point, if the technology is good enough, looks cease to matter because it's how a person is on the inside. You can make anybody look like anybody you want, which would also be normal. Cristina: Yes, you could. Jack: I could leave it so that everybody looks like a human version of them. Like they do. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And then change how the world looks. But I can also decide I want to change how the world looks and. Cristina: Everybody in it so everyone's reality will look completely different from everyone's reality. Jack: That's probably already the thing. Cristina: Yes, but, like, this is like, a very dramatic version of that. Jack: Well, how do you know what anybody else sees? Cristina: I'm guessing it's not that crazy different. Jack: Yeah. Especially if we can all sync up to use it equally. That's a weird part about perception, but. Okay, so Elon Musk could then flick a switch and nobody can hear each other, nobody can see each other. All the houses that are connected to the Internet's power gets cut off. Or he doesn't have to do any of that. Maybe he leaves. It goes rogue. He anticipated it could happen. And the robots start to shut off the power on us, to consume the power entirely themselves. They start to control our flow. We can't beat them. This ain't a freaking movie where we're just taking on robots. You get hit full force by a car, you just die. Cristina: One of his trucks. Jack: Yeah. A sentient robot is just going to f****** kill you. It's going to overpower you easily and it's going to kill most people going to flee. It is really his horizon. If anything goes rogue. What are we doing? Unless we. Yeah, unless we could stop it digitally send a virus or something. What the f*** could we do? Cristina: I guess we have to depend on hackers. Jack: Yeah, hackers would be. I mean isn't that what's happening in the Matrix? Hackers are the future. Cristina: They're hackers, aren't they? Jack: Hacking? Isn't that literally the point with the numbers flying over the screen and them looking at it and understanding what you're looking at? Cristina: I'm gonna rewatch that. I don't know, I guess it makes sense, but I don't understand how it would be hacking. Jack: You would have to hack their codes. What do you mean? What they're doing, what they're doing in a matrix. Yeah, well everybody is. They're hacking. The matrix is the Internet and they're connecting themselves to the Internet. Cristina: But when they get out of that, they're still in the Internet, are they not? Jack: They don't know that. Cristina: Oh, they don't know that. Oh, okay. Jack: They think they've disconnected into reality. Cristina: Oh, okay, okay. Jack: The what it's alluding to when you consider the two pill scenario is that they are still in the system. But they don't know that. Cristina: Okay, as far as they know, they knew. Jack: As far as they know, they're in base reality. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And they are hacking the virtual reality and connecting each other to it. Cristina: Okay. Yeah, I don't know, it seems weird. Okay. Jack: So okay, we need to think of the most general apocalypse scenario where we don't know what's happening. Let's the road it but early days, not tail end like the story. Okay, so the apocalypse happens and we hear on the news people are dying in mass. We don't know why. It could be a bomb, it could be a virus, it could be an invasion, whatever the case might be. People are dying en masse. Cristina: Do you even like get out of the house if you hear that. I don't know. Jack: Well, we have to move if we know it's coming our way. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Major cities. Exit major cities if it's nukes, exit major cities if it's zombies, exit major cities if it's an invasion. Okay, you're leaving major cities anyways. That's why a general apocalypse is easy to handle. Get out. Cristina: Okay, but in this situation, they're not telling us what it is we. Jack: Yeah, but we're supposed to make up a solution for all. Cristina: Okay. Jack: The most general solution. So we don't know what's going on. We do know. But like, what will apply in every case? Yeah, definitely have to leave major cities. That's important. Robots are coming. Robots are coming forward than most people are. That would be major cities. Cristina: Well, if anyone's coming, I guess you. Jack: Also want to strap down with guns and go to where there's a good line of sight. So, okay, day one happens. News radio 00:20:00 Jack: is going off. The. Whatever is coming. The apocalypse has begun. Either a bomb fell. I'm thinking. Look, most cases we know that all the major tech companies are in the west. That's where the problem would begin. When it comes to robotics, easiest points of access for a nuclear attack are from that direction. It would be from the west. From the. An invasion type of situation would also be over there. But. But the major pharmaceutical companies around the. Cristina: East go to Canada. Is that the solution? I don't. Jack: So in the case of a zombie apocalypse, getting out of the east would be best. Cristina: Okay. Yeah. Jack: So that's a bunch of scenarios where the west is a problem, but that's an issue immediately. If it's pharmaceutically caused, if it's a virus, if people are dying. Cristina: We still wouldn't want to go to a city. Jack: You don't want to go to a city if it starts in the east. I mean, either direction, I think head to where there's the least amount of people. Cristina: So you're saying the middle of the country. Jack: Yeah, I suppose the middle of the country or up towards the border you want to hit. And additionally, in the case of an invasion or a zombie apocalypse, up and towards the cold will make it harder. Cristina: It's a invasion of like Russia. Russians, they're used to that weather. Maybe the middle of the country is the safest because, like there's crazy weather there, like tornadoes. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: And earthquakes. I don't know. Jack: Yeah, but they'd have to travel quite a way in an invasion to get to us. They'd have a lot of different terrain to overcome. Even if we were on. I mean, I guess if we're too close to Canada, as long as we're not in Canada summers, as long as we're in the center, on the border from either direction that they invade left or right. In the United States, they would have so many different terrains and we would have defense, military defense, surrounding all of it. And enough rural areas that if that fails, we can hide out. Cristina: Okay. And if it's our own military attacking. Jack: Us, that's another problem. Right. Let's say the. The United States government goes rogue. That becomes leaving the city really hard. If the city goes rogue, then what? Right, not the city, the country, the government. So you have officers and military turn on the civilian population. Cristina: How long could they. I mean, I can't imagine that really working out because, like, the people would overwhelm them. Like, how do you turn against your own family, though? Like that? Jack: Some people are more deadened. They consider the mint. Well, I don't know about cops, but definitely the soldiers. Cristina: Soldiers, but like, I guess cops, yeah. Jack: Nah, chances are cops will be on the fence, there'd be a bunch of cops. I mean, it's the end of the world. I'm sure. They start flipping, a bunch of cops are joining people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Yeah, I'm pretty sure a bunch of cops will join individuals. Cristina: But it's not enough to fight the military. Jack: I don't know. Do you think there's enough to fight the military? Cristina: Enough people? Probably. I don't know. No, probably not. With what they have. Jack: I guess it really comes down to that. What the military has versus what normal civilians and a couple of cops have. Cristina: Yeah. And then where do we go? Mexico? Jack: Well, like, I guess it's just out of where we are. Mexico definitely makes sense. I don't know. We gotta go where there's weapons, I suppose. Cristina: Where are the weapons? I don't know. Jack: Where there's people, I guess, that would normally have weapons. So south, southern states, we can raid places as we leave. If there's mass evacuations happening in all. Cristina: The situations, I guess that would be. Jack: What'S happening in every situation. That would be what's happening, yes. Also, food becomes a problem. Like, if you're traveling to exit major cities, what do you do? You stuff a bunch of bags and take them with you. And are you just a target now for anybody who didn't think that far ahead and just like evacuated quickly? Cristina: But everyone has, like, that's the first plan is just take what you have. Jack: Yeah. And I guess people aren't even thinking about what Anybody else has at that point. That's more about when resources are thinned. Cristina: Which will happen pretty quick. Jack: Which happened pretty quick. As people start hoarding. People start breaking into places and hoarding whatever they can. If anybody hidden within the city. And cities are immediately going to become war zones. 00:25:00 Jack: Enough crime in cities that there must be weapons. Cristina: Yeah, man. That's just too dangerous. In any situation. The city is too dangerous. Jack: Yeah. It doesn't matter what it is. If it's a nuclear attack, it's a huge target. If it's a government takeover, then it becomes a central location for them to get the most amount of people. Same thing goes with an invasion. They're probably going to try to win over the largest areas in the quickest time in order to have the least amount of resistance. Zombie apocalypse. That's the quickest place to fill up. Cristina: That's. Yes. Oh, my gosh. If the zombie apocalypse happens, cities tend. Jack: To be the most technologically advanced, so they would likely have the most robots for when the virus gets out. Cristina: Yeah. And if it was something that was just killing people through, like, disease. Jack: Yep. Cristina: Everyone's together. Jack: Yep. Everyone's. It sucks to be in a city for the end of the world. It makes sense as to why super filthy rich people get the out of there. They go to the middle of nowhere where they couldn't be a target of anything. Cristina: On the island. Jack: Yeah. Away from it all, in the. The deepest, most rural part of the ocean. Cristina: But I don't know if, like, going on a boat and trying to survive like that makes sense. Jack: On a boat. No. A single storm could end it all. And going on an island, you need to. It can't be a tiny island. And you got to be sure that there's not a bunch of other people there, but that there is vegetation that you can eat. Because what are you gonna do for food? I mean, I guess you get fish. Are you gonna eat fish forever? Cristina: Well, islands usually have fruits. Jack: Yeah. Yeah. So it can't be a small island. It can't be like, you can't go to Epstein's Island. It's not big enough. Cristina: You go to Puerto Rico. Jack: Fair. But that island is about to sink any day. You also have to consider that what island is big enough to survive long term and not get hit by hurricanes all the time either you want to escape and be safe, not escape and have to deal with a different problem. Cristina: What? Does wine suffer? Yeah. Wait, was that fire on, like a forest fire? Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Oh, okay. They're not safe. I don't know. Jack: No, I Think definitely Canada is the way to go. Cristina: Canada. Jack: I think Canada. We can't go to Mexico. They get hit by hurricanes all the time. Cristina: Yeah, we get hit by everything. Yeah, so they might. No wait, they have fires though. Jack: Who? Canada? Yeah, well, it depends where we go in Canada. We need to go into the mountains too. Snow covered. We want altitude. We want to be well removed and with some altitude. So we can see things from far away. Cristina: Yes, yes. Jack: And then we got to be able to find and plant cold weather crops that would grow regularly and take advantage of the small heat in the. Cristina: How do you plan something like that if you're not a farmer? Where do you even start farming? Jack: Where do you start farming? Cristina: Like you just go to a library is the start. I guess I don't know if there. Jack: I mean in the case of a. Yeah, I guess you got to go. If an apocalypse happens, go to the library and collect some survival books. In the first days of something sketchy happening, go to the library and don't think. Cristina: Survival books, but like just like what's like gardening books. Yeah, that's a survival book in the local area. Okay then. Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Jack: Get how to plant, get how to build, get just a bunch of random back to basics books. Cristina: But you gotta learn about what's in the area specifically. Jack: So that means worry about the acquire the food on route and work minus what you can take. And when you get to your destination, then hit the local library and try to take whatever's information is local for the area. Cristina: Oh, then you can find places there, I guess. No, but everything that they have like tourist spots or anything like that, you wouldn't want to. Jack: You don't want to go where there's a bunch of people. Okay, so plan number one, definitely Canada. That's where we go in the case of anything. You could find enough rural places and enough difficult terrain. Cristina: Yes, right. Jack: This seems to be safe no matter what the situation. No matter what's the apocalypse. In every variation, you're mostly safe. Cristina: Even an alien apocalypse? We never talked about that. What about if aliens? Jack: Yeah, but what the h***. They're also going to go to major cities. Likely. Cristina: Yes, that's true. Jack: There's all this bullshit about rural areas, but like an invasion happens. They're no longer bothering with rural areas. Cristina: That's their favorite spots though. Jack: What would an invasion in a rural area look like? Cristina: I don't know. Okay. Jack: It would just be what take one person. Well, invasions concluded. Cristina: They love doing that I guess normally. But yeah, I 00:30:00 Cristina: mean like maybe they Just. It's the slowest apocalypse ever. They just take one person at a time. Jack: There's too quick of a turnover for reproduction. That doesn't make sense. There's 8 billion of us. Cristina: Yeah. How do we stop them? Jack: We wouldn't. In none of these situations are we pretending we could stop somebody. Cristina: Okay. Jack: We're not out here trying to stop the American government. Or an invasion happens. Yeah. Where we gotta run? Where do we run to? Cristina: Okay. Jack: Unless you got plans for stopping them, I'm all ears. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No, if you've got solutions to fight them back as the invasion happens, get. Cristina: A robot to fall in love with you, I guess. Help you fight them. I don't know. Jack: That's a way to go, I guess. Food and water are huge issues. Cristina: Yes. Jack: You got to be close to water. Cristina: But if you can't find the water, the library will help you make water. Jack: Or find other water sources. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: The library will help you make water or find other water sources. Well, I guess make water sources. Cristina: Okay. Like dig a hole. Yeah. I don't know. When you said make water. I don't know. Jack: Yeah, like dig a hole and the water will show up. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But I guess they didn't make that water. Cristina: No. But they can also just show you like the local parks or water rivers or whatever near you. Jack: Yeah. And then you gotta boil the water every time. Yeah. Cristina: But yeah, they'll give you advice on how to do that. Jack: Hopefully with all hoops there's at least enough books to get you started on some planting and whatever. Although a bunch of books might be rated for their information about the area. Cristina: Then learn about it now, before the. Jack: Apocalypse, how do you know where you're. Cristina: Going to know how to clean water? I don't know. Jack: Oh yeah. To clean water, I suppose. Not the plant. Cristina: No, not the plant. Jack: Because you don't know where you're going. Cristina: Specific that you need for survival. Like, water is super important. Jack: Yeah. Learn how to purify water now, just in case. Cristina: Just in case. Like that's one very, very important thing. Jack: Yeah. And you could use it anywhere you go. Cristina: You can eat almost anything. Jack: So fair. And if you kill it, you know, you could eat it for a fact. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: As long as it's like meat or some s***. And there's the obvious fruits and stuff that if you stumble upon. Cristina: So just have some water cleaning knowledge, I guess. Jack: Also it doesn't hurt to, along with water cleaning knowledge, have animal trap creating knowledge. I think those two things might be more important than learning how to farm because that's Long term. But if you can learn how to build a trap that'll catch something that's. Cristina: Yeah. You already know how to fish. That also helps people who already are survivalists already. Jack: Not even survivalists. People who just hang out in the woods. Cristina: Like the hunts. For fun. Jack: Yeah, exactly. They all know. Or not even for fun, just some people hunt for food. Hunters just know. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: How to do these things. How to build traps, how to track animals. That's important. And for like mountain climbers and hikers who do like crazy treks, they usually know how to purify water just in case. Cristina: Being a climber probably helps a lot. Being able to hide on top of a tree in a really crazy situation. When you're trying to hide from someone. Jack: Or up a scaled cave. Cristina: Yeah. Just high places. Jack: Yeah. Vantage points that look like nothing. Those are the best. Because you don't want to build on a tree. And then it's just obvious. And then when you try to get down, it's like, well, you. There's only one way down, buddy. But if nobody can tell where you live because it's up 30, 40ft on the side of a f****** mountain. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And it doesn't. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: They can't even see the entrance from any point. And you can easily. Cristina: Yeah. Because a lot of these situations you're. Wherever you're hiding is probably going to be real obvious. If there is someone or something hunting you down, it's easy to spot if you live there. If you're like, what is it boarding up the windows and stuff like that. Like obvious signs. Although if you don't do that. Jack: Well, yeah, that's fair enough. And depending on the apocalypse, I guess the first couple of. I guess really what we're talking about is initial moments. Right. So we got to ground an apocalypse. Let's say it is a zombie apocalypse. Right. Let's be fun about it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In a zombie apocalypse, we have to kind of wait it out first. Cristina: Our location, wherever you're at. Jack: Yeah. You don't want to be in the mix of a bunch of crap happening simultaneously. If you're in a major city, you kind of want to wait out until it's quiet. Cristina: Even in the city. Jack: Even in the city. 00:35:00 Cristina: Well, yes, especially because everyone's trying to get out. Jack: Yes, exactly. If you're in a rural area, whenever you want to leave, you can leave. Be careful. But you, you're fine. If you're in a city, leaving becomes a strategic choice. Cristina: You're like fighting everyone and the zombies. Jack: And you don't want to do that you don't want to be caught in the middle of a stampede of people or anything like that. So a lot of the time, staying where you are is probably the best advice. People who have basements go into your basement or people who. Look, if it's possible to hide the existence of your basement and there's only one way in, do that. And you keep storing things in that basement and you make the top floor look invisible. And then you just stay down there quiet. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And you wait days. Cristina: You shouldn't, should you lock your doors? You shouldn't, like, make it obvious you're hiding in the basement. I mean, that your house is a hiding spot. Jack: Yes. Like, in any case, you should make it look like you took what you could and ran out to. Cristina: Mm. Jack: You put as much as you can in the basement. That's survival based. And you do it in a rush. And you don't clean up, you don't tidy up. And you. You can lock the door. Cristina: Yeah, but like, if they step in, it looks like you ran out. Jack: Yeah, it looks like it was raided. Or like, yeah, you were rushing and still close your door for measure. Habit. And so they'll take whatever's left. But you'll still be down there with the important stuff. Yes. You'll have the food, which you hoarded intentionally. You hid down there. You'll have whatever survival things and weapons and crap that you might need and people just fade away. Cristina: But what weapons would that be? Like your kitchen knives. Like if you don't really have anything. Kitchen knife anything becomes a weapon. Jack: Yeah, a kitchen knife is super useful. It's actually genius if you can have a couple of different kitchen knives on you. If you have a kitchen knife on. If you have a kitchen knife rack, take the rack. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: You have hella kitchen knives. Especially if there's multiple of you down there. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Somebody comes down there, all of you can stab the out of them. Cristina: Crazy. Oh, no. Jack: You stay nice and quiet and you just wait days and days and days. When you're halfway through your supplies and you start to panic. Ration right off the start. Don't be eating comfortable suddenly. Yes, you ration right off the bat. Cristina: Okay, that's tough. Jack: Yep, you ration right off the bat. Cristina: But then. Okay. And then some days pass and then it's quiet. Jack: When it's quiet. Whenever it's quiet, you wait down there until it's quiet and you don't hear panic or it's so sparse that you know outside is nice and empty. Assuming this is zombie apocalypse or A military invasion of sorts. Staying where you are and being quiet until it looks empty and dead. Cristina: Yeah. If there are any zombies, I mean, they walk away, they usually go towards noise. So if your place has been abandoned, it should be fine. Jack: Yes. And soldiers who cleared the area would have come through and looked at everything and been like, oh, this is clear. Cristina: That's horrifying, though. I don't know. And the robots, though, like, they can just hide there forever. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Robot can just be at your house for the rest of their life. Jack: You wouldn't even. Waiting. Well, no, they still have to charge. We haven't discovered infinite energy. So robot comes in, it could stand there for a certain amount of time, but it will have to recharge. Cristina: But it just connects itself to your wall. Jack: If electricity isn't destroyed, you're f*****. Yeah. If that's not turned off. And it could just walk in and just stand there and charge itself in your house and not even move. Cristina: Mm. Just the skies in your crap and. Jack: But here's the problem. In the case of a robot apocalypse, where do you hide? If everything is a tracker, everything has gps, everything has a camera. You can't. No, it's. We're all cooked. It's done. Cristina: Yes. Jack: I guess robot apocalypse is looking dire with the amount of cameras everywhere. Cristina: The woods. You run to the woods. Jack: Yeah. You gotta wait until enough people are dead. No. D***. In the case of robot apocalypse, you gotta. Yeah, because then you're an easy target for them to focus on. Cristina: Mm. Jack: You do have to go to the middle of nowhere. Cristina: No town, no city, no nothing is safe. Jack: You got to leave all electronics behind. Cristina: Mm. It's gotta be so far. Go up a mountain again. Jack: Yeah, up a mountain. You gotta get way out of places. And you have to be places where your thermal image cannot be seen. And that includes because of satellites as well. We could be seen from every. So it's so exaggerated. Cristina: Yes. I don't know, man. Mountain climbers have 00:40:00 Cristina: it. They can survive. Jack: Except if you go up a mountain and there isn't a cave, then you could just be spotted by, like, satellites. Cristina: Okay, well, you gotta go to that library for that map. You're supposed to check out your area before you do something crazy like that. Jack: Yeah. And how do you get out quick? In the case of rule about apocalypse and everybody's scrambling and running in every direction, how do you survive? You can't. It's in a city. You can't exit. You're f*****. But if you don't exit, they'll focus on you and Then you're f*****. Cristina: You talk about zombies now? Jack: No, robots. Cristina: Oh, they're robots. Oh, that's what you said. Jack: Oh, maybe. Cristina: Okay, now we're focusing on robots. Jack: Yeah. If you're trying to get out during a robot apocalypse, which is the best advice, then you're going to be stuck dealing with people in the middle of their panic. But you have to do it at that moment. If it's robot apocalypse, if it's an invasion, if it's zombies, you can stay. You could hunker down, try to be invisible, hide in a wall or something for a couple of days, you know, if it's robots. If it's robots, then what? Cristina: You gotta get a bike. Yeah, I guess that wouldn't be the safest way to travel. And fastest. Because you can't trust your cars. Jack: No, you can't trust your cars. Robots can one cars run on electricity on top of gas. And to the electricity one, the gas could be shut off. We don't know how to acquire gas. And the electricity is usually powered with. Not powered by. It has a battery, but it usually is accompanied with computers and whatnot. So that's just a tracking machine. You're just being tracked. You need as little electrical energy as possible. So bicycle is the way to go. Cristina: Also probably running away from the government would be the same. You don't want to use anything that they'll track. Jack: Yes. You don't want to use anything to track or anything that a simple EMP could disable in the middle of an invasion. If it's an invasion happening and soldiers coming in, they could just drop an EMP somewhere, disable all electronics. And now what? Yeah, you won't even notice if you're on a bike. Cristina: Yeah. So the bike is the safest. Jack: Bike is the safe way to travel. Cristina: It is in every situation. Jack: Yes. Bikes and horses are such a commodity. Although a bike over a horse. Cristina: Bike over a horse. Especially in the zombie apocalypse. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Why is there no one riding a bike? Why are they still horses? Jack: No, it's a real question now I'm thinking about the walking dead and how, like, why weren't there a bunch of bicycles everywhere? Cristina: No, there's like, they do cars for so long when it's so loud. And motorcycle, which is super loud. Like it's insanely loud. And then horses, which are still pretty loud. Especially a group of horses. Yeah, it's a pretty loud sound. Jack: It's super loud. A bike is just cutting through the wind. Yeah, easy. Cristina: And they have roads everywhere. Jack: Everywhere. I don't understand. I don't get it. And I'm sure there were enough bikes everywhere. Cristina: Yes. I don't know. The zombies ate all the bikes or destroyed all the bikes in anger or something. Jack: That's an interesting question. Where did the bikes go in the walking that it would have broken. Cristina: Invented. Jack: And I know they do exist because there was that one guy who rode the bike to distract them. So it's not like the word zombie. That never happened in that universe. Bicycles do exist in that universe. So there must be bikes everywhere. Cristina: But then no one uses bikes. Jack: Nobody uses bikes. Cristina: What is going on? Jack: It would destroy all conflict, you know? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: You could easily sneak up on any enemy. You could easily bypass any number of infected. You could easily get from point A to point B without having to worry about the bike eating because it's not a horse. Cristina: Yeah. That is so crazy. I guess. Yeah. That would solve a lot of stuff. Jack: You could go as far as your energy allows and you can coast down hills. Cristina: Bike is a beautiful solution to a lot of problems. Jack: Yeah. Yeah. We're hoarding a couple of bikes. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Bike parts for days. That's genius. Bike parts for days. Cristina: They're not even that difficult once you figure out how it works. Jack: Yeah. And anytime that you have a. Anytime that you have a. Let's say you. You know. So. Okay, our plan is what? We're going to the center of the country, somewhere in between the United States and 00:45:00 Jack: Canada. That border area, which is rural as. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And we find a bunk, or not a bunk, but like a cabin out. Cristina: There in the middle of nowhere. It's gotta be cabin. Jack: We take no electronics and we raid the library for books on local important areas, maps of the area and what businesses are there and what food grows in the area. We take that back to our cabin every time we do runs. We can also steal casually bike parts. Cristina: Yes, easy. Jack: Bike chains, tires, whatever. Just bike parts. Build an infinite number of bikes, little by little bikes for all different purposes. Cristina: Stop by every bike store and just do a little whatever. Jack: Yeah, whatever. If their bike stores are stripped anyway, you go and you find anything related to bike. Make sure you have enough tools on you. You know, a screwdriver, a wrench of some sort. Just enough to strip a bike at any moment and take important things that would normally break often. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Remove the rubber tire and its air tube. You stuff that into the bag that you have with you. Instead of taking the whole frame. Once in a while, you take one frame of. Not one frame, one rim. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Once in a while, you take one rim. Because it's huge. You take one and all the stuff you're supposed to take, and then again next time, one rim and all the stuff you're supposed to take. Little by little, you have a bunch of rims and you take notes of where you left the rim because you can only take one at a time. Go back, get more stuff, get more bike parts as well as food and other things. Cristina: That's a good idea. I like that idea. I think it works in every situation. I don't know. Jack: Yeah, it seems to. A bike is ideal. You can bypass the enemy. If it's a military invasion, a bike is still helpful. You can sneak around. Cristina: Yeah. Do you think so? Jack: I do. I think so too. Cristina: But I don't know. You don't want to be riding a bike around the military either. You don't want to be anywhere near them. Jack: No. But if you had to, it's an easy way to move quickly and sneak away. Cristina: Not everything is dangerous. I don't know. I don't know what's the worst of all these situations. It's like the military is pretty bad, but zombies, of course. Pretty bad. Jack: They're all pretty bad. I mean, that's why we're running away in the first place. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: We're suing its world ending to some degree. Cristina: World ending? Jack: Yeah, it's an apocalypse. And so we go north and we steal food on the way and we steal bike. We get the cabin, starts hoarding bike parts, leave them in the back of the cabin. And books, all kinds of books from libraries and stuff. That's also going to be entertainment. But entertainment isn't going to be get a novel about a story. No, entertainment is going to be. Learn practical skills in the middle of the end of the world. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Continue to collect books on knowledge and continuously spend your day practicing those skills and developing them. Cristina: I don't know if having a farm is a good idea. Like, would that be assigned to other people? Jack: Yes. Cristina: So, like, how do you grow crops and not worry? Jack: No, you can't be on a farm. Cristina: Not on a farm. Like, if you grow anything in a field, someone will find it, like in your backyard. Or if it's. Jack: If you're in a cabin in the woods. You plant in the woods. Cristina: In the woods? Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Away from the house. Jack: Even if it was near the house, the idea is the cabin isn't surrounded by people. It's a cabin. This is out there. Cristina: Okay. But you're not growing your crops around your cabin. Jack: You can, because you're not around anybody. The cabin should be removed enough presumably if you got a cabin near people, you're already okay. If there are other structures around you. Somebody could be in that next cabin at any day at random and you wouldn't know. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You don't want to be visible. The ideas go so rural. Your cabin is the only place for very, very long time. Cristina: But no one will stumble upon your cabin by accident. That'd be too wild. Jack: I mean, how would they? Didn't you have to look for it? Cristina: Yes, to begin with? I don't know. The robots can figure it out. They're looking everywhere. Jack: It depends. What are you envisioning as a cabin here? Because if somebody could just stumble upon it, you didn't find the most hidden area possible. Cristina: But how hidden? I don't know how hidden cabins are. Like you're saying they're like nothing is near it. Jack: Yeah. Presumably there should be some cabins that are super removed and that you could find that are just out there by themselves. People who were really doing woodsy s***. Cristina: Because how do you get to those? I feel like those cabins are gonna be the hardest to get to 00:50:00 Cristina: because the person who had that cabin is still in that cabin. Jack: Likely the case. That's when you make some hard decisions about ending someone's life. Cristina: That's crazy. Like the most easy cabins to find is probably the ones that have like in the park area where people stay in the summertime. Jack: So yeah, we got our cabin here and then. Yeah, there's a cabin just a little over there. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No, no, no. You want to go into the middle of nowhere. You're not going to a sunny spot for summer vacation. You're going into a cold, s***** place intentionally up a mountain. Nobody goes on vacation up a mountain. That's why you're looking for these cabins. Cristina: And hoping no one lives there. Jack: Hoping no one lives there. I mean nobody would be living there. Think of like an ice fishing cabin that's removed. Cristina: That's crazy. Okay. Jack: You know, just that level of removed. You're looking for cabins in those kinds of situations. Alternatively, you could find totally removed town and then go and find the most removed house in that town. Cristina: Oh, okay, that makes sense. Jack: Yeah. Or the house with the best position to see the most in a place that's very empty. And slowly, if it's just enough, if it's just few enough people, then you can slowly kind of clear out every place day by day. Cristina: Mark all the places separate. Jack: Not separate. You want to be as close as possible. But let's say there's just two of you and it's A relatively empty town because the apocalypse is happening. Then again, it depends on like the, the amount of time if it's beginning. Those places have people. Cristina: Yeah. If it's a town, then you're just hiding. Jack: You're just waiting until they're. If we wake up and it's been 10 years. We were in a coma and it's been 10 years. The apocalypse has happened and now we're like, how do we survive now? Go to a rural town, clear the town, and then pick the place of the best vantage point. Well, you start by picking a place of the best vantage point, clearing that place. Cristina: Setting up what is like clearing the town though. You're murdering people. Like, what are you doing? Jack: If it's been 10 years and the apocalypse happens, presumably there aren't people. You're just making sure there aren't people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You know, you're just going to each place and making sure there's nobody there. Cristina: And if there is someone there, then. Jack: I don't know. I don't know. That's an interesting question. You get to. Oh, you leave, I guess. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: It's their territory you moved into. Cristina: Oh, he's like, I guess like, what if one of these dangers are hidden in there? But I don't know why they would be hiding in something that's empty. Jack: Yeah. If it's military or government invasion, they're not just gonna be hiding out in the most rural empty place. That's not happening. Cristina: But a zombie is possible. Jack: Zombie is totally possible. Yes. In a zombie apocalypse. But then you'd get rid of the zombie that would be clearing it. Cristina: But if you just woke up, then I don't know how you're gonna do that. Jack: What do you mean? Cristina: You said in the ten year. Jack: Yeah. Okay, how are you not gonna. What? Unless it's a runner, in which case there's nobody left. Jack: You're dealing with just a typical Walking Dead esque kind of zombie. And that's easy to deal with one. You see a zombie, you're like, that's a zombie. You're like, there's nobody else. I gotta kill that thing or it's gonna kill me. Okay. How do you decide who you trust? Cristina: You don't. I don't know. That's interesting. Jack: And how do you decide who you trust? If they. I mean, personality goes a long way. Cristina: But there's acting and I don't know how you can tell anyone can seem like a friendly person who just needs help. Jack: Yeah, 100%. You don't have to help anybody. I think you need to. But you also can't be the person in need of help. You just need to ultimately be. You have to be resourceful and get people who are resourceful. Cristina: Right. But how do you do that? Jack: You find people who you reject. The people who are useless. Cristina: Mm. The people who are resourceful. Like, how do you get them to trust you? Jack: I don't think trust happens just by default. I think you guys need to agree. Look, we have talents or whatever. We know this and I know that. And people can be forced into situations together. Most people are going to try to avoid other people, but in certain situations, people will get familiar. And I think those are the moments that matter. Right. Where you start to determine utility. How useful is this person that comes first? And then considering their implication within your group, is this the kind of personality I'll conflict with? And you, you know, you learn with 00:55:00 Jack: time because people can lie. And, like, what do you. Do you do not trust anybody, but don't trust anybody right off the bat. Cristina: But when you start trusting people, how big does this group become? Jack: How would you keep facing situations where you end up trusting people? Cristina: I don't know. Jack: I think the team builds up at the beginning. At the beginning. Couple of people, if even that you're gonna try to get away with what you have. You got a family. You got what if you have a family of. Hopefully you got a basement. You could just disappear for a bit. If your basement is obvious, it's just a giant door in the middle of the house, bro. If it's a random door against a wall that you can easily block somehow, and that's the only way in, great. If that isn't the only way in and there's an outer way in, then you move a giant. If you have it, a bookshelf or something in front of the door, and you stock it with everything you have. So it's just there? Cristina: Yeah. Like your bed is pretty big. I don't know if that could work. Jack: No. You don't want it to be obvious. You're blocking something and then you're inside and somebody can just move it. Like I said, a bookshelf. Something obvious that just looks like it belongs there. And you stock it like it's just a bookshelf that's been ignored. Cristina: If you don't have a bookshelf, that's a weird one. Jack: And you do whatever you need to. To hide the handle. You can remove the handle. You could remove the handle and push that bookshelf as far back as possible. If it has an outdoor entrance the outdoor entrance is going to be way easy if you have a normal kind of opens up cellar door situation. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: You can, from the out, you being outside, decorate the doors to be invisible. Cristina: How do you do that? Like with trash or something? Yeah. Jack: 100. You could put a bunch of trash that's just attached to the doors so that when you close the door from the inside, the trash still lands on top of it, hiding it. Cristina: That's cool. Yeah. Jack: Yes. And then you could just be down there and nobody would even know that place has a basement. There wouldn't be proof on the outside or on the inside. Cristina: It just sucks being trapped in a basement. It really does. Jack: 100%. But you would need to wait it out. You want to wait out the noise, whatever the case is. In the case of a nuke, it's the same thing. What are you just dying down there? Ultimately you're just waiting. Cristina: Yes. Oh, I don't nuke. There's nothing we can. What? That's the worst apocalypse. That's the worst apocalypse. Jack: That's definitely the worst one. Cristina: There's nothing you can do unless you're outside of it. Jack: I would think that whatever happened in the Road is a nuclear apocalypse because of all the ashes. Cristina: There's nothing but ash and nothing to eat, nothing to drink. Jack: Oh, no. Plants grow. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: There's water, but they don't give a s***. They don't even filter the water to drink anything. Cristina: It's awful. Jack: Yeah. The kid got sick. Hella times. Like, okay, whatever. It's like better than that. Drinking anything. Cristina: That's horrible. Hopefully that's not the situation that's a horrible situation. But yeah, that seems like it was a. Something like the new. Yeah. Jack: No food grows, no people around, no plants anywhere. There's. You can't see the sky. Everything is ash everywhere. Everything is ash. Absurd. That's a hardcore apocalypse. Cristina: Like you're just scavenging for old cans. That's it. That's all you're doing. Jack: You're surviving off of no hope of finding any other food. Cristina: Nope. Jack: Because nothing can. Cristina: The canned stuff. Jack: That's it. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: Which eventually will run out. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Eventually will run out. My question about the road is, was that kid born in the apocalypse? Cristina: I don't know. I don't know. He could have because his w. He had to have been born right before. He must have been a baby or some. A child because the lady killed herself and like she could have been born after that. Jack: Yeah, fair enough. No, but they were being chased. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: They were being chased by somebody. They're like, they're gonna come for us or whatever. So she could have. The kid could have been a really young child, like a baby or something at that point. I don't know. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: There's no timeline to this either. It's really just a dude and his kid wandering. Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not sure. Okay. Because they don't really say when that's happening. Jack: No, there's no. It could end the fact that everything is destroyed. It's been kind of a while. That kid might have been born in that. And like, maybe there was life and people trying. Cristina: But it was impossible. Jack: It was impossible. Cristina: Growing where food where in a situation like that. 01:00:00 Cristina: I don't know. I think you just want to be dead. I don't know. Jack: Presumably. Cristina: I don't know. Survive of cans until you can't. Jack: Yeah. And going north kind of still works out. An apocalypse happens when it comes to nukes. Just go north. The difficulty is the cold. Cristina: Mm. Jack: I mean, if it's nukes, go south, I guess, because you have less people to worry about. You want to go where the situations are going to be eased off so they can focus on the things that can't be eased off. If there's an invasion, if the military turns on the people, if there are zombies, you want to go where there's no people and where it is cold so that the most people struggle, there's the least likely locations to be large numbers of people. If it's not, and it's nukes and a lot of people die, suddenly, going south might make sense because you remove the element of you having to deal with the cold. And you will be in areas where maybe you can grow things more easily than going up to where it's cold and it's harder to grow things. You want to go where you can possibly survive. You do want to go to places like that avoid you dealing with the elements and making growing food more likely. Cristina: And do what? Go north, South. Jack: If it's nukes, go south, go south. You want to go to the places less likely to be hit by nukes and less likely to be affected by the air from nukes. North, there is way more people. South, there are way less people. If you go very, very south, you get to very, very rural. I mean, that's also a possibility. You can just go to South America. Just keep going down, keep going down, keep going down. Gets hotter and hotter and hotter. In the case of an invasion, you're f*****. Like, that's. They can Come from anywhere all the time. And the terrain only gets easier to. Cristina: Maneuver in South America, the more south. Jack: You go, until you get to jungles and s***. And you don't want to be in those jungles. Cristina: Oh. Because I was saying, like, maybe the jungles would be a good spot. Jack: You don't want to be in those jungles. Cristina: That's where you die. Jack: That's where you die. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because if the people who live in the jungles don't come for you, the animals that live in the jungle are gonna come for you. Jack: You kind of want desert. You want a lot of. Not desert. Not desert, but you want a lot of open space that you can see in every direction for a long time. You want to go to those southern American countries. You don't want to be in Brazil. That's a problem. Cristina: Why? That's the city. Jack: No, that's. I mean, there are large cities there, but that's also where the giant Amazon forest is coming from. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: Like, you want to be far away from those areas. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And those still have dense populations. Again, your best bet is always go north to get to the, like, fewest number of people. But the early stages before super north, keep in mind, most people live on the. I believe it's the northern hemisphere of the world, right? Well, most people live around the equator, but, yeah. China and India kind of cheating, I guess. If you remove China and India, where do most people then live? And I'm assuming most major cities. If you look at the United States versus a bunch of other places, you look at Europe, you look at all these places, everybody's up. We're on the northern part. So you got to go extra, extra north to get away from people that's very cold. Yes, you want to go very, very cold, but that also makes it very hard and less likely you're going to encounter people. Cristina: That's a good thing, I guess. Yes. Jack: You got to be willing to do what other people aren't willing to do in order to survive. Cristina: It's the only way you survive in every situation. Jack: In every situation. And going south could help, but you also have to go through all. I mean, you could go to the center of the country, travel, but then you got the bottom states that are packed with people, and then you still have to cross that into the top of Mexico. That's packed with people. Cristina: Yeah. It's too dangerous. Jack: And then keep going south, going. You gotta cross the jungle. You can't stay there. You can die, but you gotta cross the jungle. Cristina: Then once you cross it Is that safe? Jack: Yes. You'll get to. You'll start entering more rural areas with less exaggerated foliage is like jungles. And get to more old school style countries or countries that are modern but still have a lot of areas that are old school. Old Spanish countries. Cristina: Good place for bikes, man. Jack: Good place for bikes. Good place to hide out in random places. There's not a lot of structure the way we know it over here. Mad layered. You'll have 01:05:00 Jack: have like one floor homes, a lot of them. Cristina: That's perfect. Jack: You know, you get the. You move into the one building, you got view. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Or you can go to completely rural areas in these kind of Spanish areas. It works like that. If you could find a boat and get to an island that doesn't flood easily. The problem is with islands, you also got to deal with. You want to deal with tropical. You don't want to deal with jungle. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Jungle's gonna kill people. Cristina: Jungle kills people. Jack: I think the jungle is more dangerous than going somewhere astoundingly cold. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Getting warm is gonna suck. Cristina: Getting warm where it's cold. Oh, okay. Yeah. But that's. You just have, I don't know, a lot of blankets. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: A lot of coats. Jack: Yeah. Double air, triple air for the super harsh winters. I mean, as the world I see other apocalypses didn't discuss, the planet is getting hotter and hotter. If this increases at an exponential rate. Cristina: Then the top makes most sense. Jack: Yeah. You want to keep going north until you're in these hefty northern areas. But on the flip side, the north is gonna start getting packed in that kind of apocalypse. Cristina: Oh, then staying in the middle makes the most sense. Jack: You don't want to bake alive. You want to go where it's warmer. But in this inevitable scenario, the more north is going to start getting more packed because it's going to be more livable as it gets hotter. Cristina: Yeah. And the south is just gone. Jack: No, the south works just like the north, only the equator is extremely hot. If you go south from the equator, you get colder and colder. Cristina: Then it makes sense to go there then to the equator, to I guess South America. Jack: We can go to South America. We can go to North America. North America has way more land. South America gets thinner and thinner. Lower down you go, meaning that'll get more densely packed. Cristina: Less people is a better thing. Jack: Consider the equator. And if it's a climate based situation and that the equator is the middle, most people underneath the equator are going to keep going south. Most people on the north of the equator are going to keep going North. Even if there are more people in the north for a climate crisis, there is way more ground for them to spread out. Less likely, you'll see people. But South America doesn't work that way. South America is a funnel. It keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller. Meaning everybody is going to most likely be packing. They're going to be more and more. Even if there were a few people. Yes. They're going to keep going south. Keep going south. And there's going to be more and more people. Always more and more people. And that's where the hostility is going to happen. Same thing happens with Africa as it gets warmer and warmer. The African continent. Yeah. Is going to get worse. It's going to get bad. And South Africa is going to be at risk because that's going to have the largest swarm of people. Cristina: That's a lot of people. Okay. Jack: And just like the United States, having Canada and this open, kind of increasingly opening above us, so does the eastern continents. Cristina: Russia. That's pretty safe then. Jack: Yeah. You keep going up. Russia is eventually going to be in a case of a real climate crisis. Russia becomes paradise. Cristina: Well, we're not traveling to Russia. Jack: We're not traveling to Russia. We'd be going to Canada. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Our equivalent of that. Cristina: That makes sense. Yeah. Jack: Those are basically rough ideas, rough concepts that we would do. Cristina: Yes. Jack: I don't know if we solved anything. Cristina: Are we supposed to solve things? I don't think so. Jack: I don't know. Cristina: We have a basic plan. Bicycles, books. Jack: Strip bicycles. Strip books. Not strip books, but steel books. Cristina: Steel books. Jack: First, go somewhere that solves your problem almost instantly. Cristina: No, before anything, even before of an apocalypse. Learn how to filter water. Jack: Learn how to filter water and how to build animal traps. Yes, that's it. Filter water, build animal traps. Important. Cristina: Super simple. Jack: Super simple. Very logical. Yes. Then after the situation happens, north or south indefinitely. Yes, definitely. Now. Cristina: With a bike. Jack: With a bike, if you can. But if you've got to travel, when you get where you're going, you use a bike. You use a bike to move around quietly. Cristina: Okay, so that's in the future. Jack: Yes. And then you hoard bike parts. And also before you even get that far, when you enter where you're settling down and you've set camp and you're like, this is where we're staying. After you've secured and looked at the area and making sure you're nice and safe. Nearest library. Make the trip. Steal books about the local plants, the local structures, all the things you need to know about the area you're In. Cristina: Yes. 01:10:00 Cristina: Super important. Jack: Yes. And then start stealing bicycles and stuff so that you can make every travel easy. Cristina: You see, there's a plan there. It makes sense. It's good. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: It's not exaggerated. It's a simple. It's beautiful because it's simple. Jack: Yes. And anybody can do it. Cristina: And anyone can do it. Yes. It was a great plan. Jack: Yeah. Fair enough. There was a building plan the whole time. Teach yourself the two basic skills ahead of time. Go to one of the extremes. After the crisis, when you arrive at the location you believe you're gonna stay. Raid libraries as you're looking for food or whatever the crap you plan to do. Make sure you get informed on your surroundings and then acquire transportation so that you can regularly travel. Cristina: Brilliant. Jack: Brilliant. Cristina: I think we did it. Jack: Totally. Cristina: It works for any situation. Jack: Yes. The one cheat that everybody needs to know and learn. Make sure you steal sewing string, sewing wire, sewing yarn or whatever, and a bunch of tiny bells. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: And then you can hang the bells on the wire in the night, and you could create a huge perimeter. And anything touches the wire at any distance, all of them ring. So you just need some leading all the way to you. Cristina: I don't know how good that is because, like, what if it's a zombies thing? Like, you wouldn't want the sound attracting them to your house. Jack: It would tell you that they're zombies. Cristina: But it wouldn't attract them to get closer to you. Jack: Well, you don't want crazy walking by. No, you don't want crazy loud. It's a bell. It's not a giant horn. If they're walking by and they ring it, then they're confused. It's coming from everywhere. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: There's two things you really need with that. You want the louder ring to be wherever the trip is. So you want a bell to be clink, clink. That one over there rang really loud. All the others rang to let me know, but the loudest one was over there. That's where it got tripped. The other ones are just moving because it got tripped. So I know it came from that direction. And these all rang. But even if you're asleep, one of them would be near you. So it would ring. When something tripped any wire anywhere, a. Cristina: Little bell will ring next to you. Jack: Yes. And then you'd be like, oh, something's here. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Learn how to use wire or string and sewing string and. Cristina: Have a bunch of bells. You don't even know how to work bells. Jack: Hoard bells over time. Hoard a bunch of string and a Bunch of bells to set basic parameters. Yep. Basic perimeters, alternatively. No. The problem is you want your bell to go off the one near you. Cristina: Mm. Jack: So I guess there's ways around this. You can make outdoor perimeters where you fasten edges. This one to that tree, one bell in between, this one to that tree, one bell in between. Do that over and over, creating a perfect perimeter. But you can also do it where those aren't going to be interrupted. Those one rings, only that one rings. You know exactly where it came from for your house, your fastened area. That's when you would put a bunch of wires and connecting things in every direction so that you're sleeping in the one hidden spot. It doesn't matter where somebody steps on it. It will ring all of the ones in the house and the one near you. So you could just hear it get up. Get up and react. Cristina: Okay. Jack: That's true. Good scenario. That would be my advice for, like, be safe in simple ways. This whole plan is simple. Cristina: It's awesome. I like it. I think anyone can do it. Jack: Anybody could do it. That is the goal. Right. It's very simple, basic plan. Anybody can pull off it will probably. Cristina: Help in any situation. Jack: Yes. Because it's not focused on any one apocalypse. There's a couple of, you know, stay home if you can, but move if you can. Those are the only variations. This is how you stay home. This is how you move. Although the how you move, I guess that's really up to you. But where you move to, this is how you stay home or where you move to. How you move to where you're going, it depends on the individuals. Can you all ride bikes, then ride bikes if you can't, well, you guys gotta walk then. If there are cars and no MP drop, take a car. If it's robot apocalypse, take a. Don't touch a car. Cristina: Most situations, I think don't touch a car because, like, that also, people will find you. Jack: People will find you. Cristina: It's an easy red, but it depends. Jack: On the timing, too. If it's early in it. Use a car. You're part of the noise. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Keep getting more rural. More rural, more rural. Then abandon the car a distance away from where you're going. Cristina: Yeah. Eventually you gotta let go that car. Jack: Put it somewhere hidden that you can run back to that, you know. And if it's gone, somebody's 01:15:00 Jack: somebody's around there. Cristina: Whoa. Jack: But don't put it near where you're staying. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because people will find it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: People will find cars in the most random of places. Cristina: Yeah, cars are too dangerous. I don't know. Jack: Yeah. And too noisy. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But the only problem is if an EMP drops, the noisy cars are the only ones that will drive. Purely mechanical. Cristina: That's why. That's dangerous too. That's. Jack: Yeah. It makes those cars the most desirable. Cristina: Mm. Everyone's gonna be fighting over cars. You don't want that. You don't want it for survival. Jack: People are also gonna be fighting over bikes. Cristina: Okay. You don't need bikes for survival either. Jack: But you're gonna hoard bikes because it's easy. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It's not easy to hoard cars and repair them. It's easy to have a couple of tools and repair some bikes. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You can always have a bike. I don't know why in the Walking Dead they don't have bikes. It makes no sense. Cristina: I don't know. They have carriages. Jack: I don't. I don't understand. Anyways, hopefully this is helpful to you guys to some degree. And if the apocalypse comes, there's a basic plan here. It started off kind of aimless, but slowly zoned into a plan. Cristina: It makes sense. It's a plan that works. Maybe. We'll find out. We'll find out. Jack: Yeah, we'll find out when the apocalypse heads. Anyways, if you guys like conversations like this, Ones similar. We haven't had anything like this in a while. Although there are older episodes that have strange off conversations like this, you guys can definitely find those. And if you have any ideas that you think fit a basic, easy to accomplish plan anywhere for anybody to do. Cristina: Or it could add to what we made. Jack: Yeah, basically, that's what I'm saying. If you want to add to what we're talking about. Anything that would fit so easily to our plan. Cristina: Okay. Jack: That anything could fit, you know, any piece that won't overcomplicate it that allow anybody to still accomplish this, message us and let us know. You could do that on our socials at just convopod, on Twitter on X. No, X is Twitter on X, on Facebook, on Instagram, on Tick Tock, wherever you'd like. Cristina: Remember to subscribe and review the show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is incredibly overpowered. Tell people we're trying to get everybody to survive the apocalypse. Let them know that's what's happening here. Cristina: Let's do it together. Except don't. Don't join me. We gotta do. We gotta be separate. I don't know. Jack: Yes. 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Rambling 161: Disaster Week

What caused an apocalyptic scale storm to suddenly appear over Earth? What is the source of this mysterious signal seemingly manifesting from nowhere? And what is Bigfoot? The duo cope with the death of Weather Deity Phil the groundhog and must scramble a plan together to damage control the aftermath of this dangerous tragedy. This on top of the fact that there is an unidentified signal emitting from space. What is the source?

Rambling 161: Disaster Week

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  • Yeti
  • Space Signal
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  • Universe 3 Portal
  • Dark Stars
  • Time Travel
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

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Jack: Yes. And this show is, you know, most enjoyable if you've got a listening partner. So if you go. If you go get it, you get one. You go get a listening partner. Look, look, look, look.

Cristina: Why should they get a listening partner?

Jack: Why not? They should get a listening partner. Listen to this episode completely. You don't walk away once you've started. You make it through. Then you go find somebody to listen to this show with, and you bring them and you do whatever the show says again. So now you go out a second time to find somebody to listen to, but now they have to as well. And it just keeps happening. The same person comes listen to the same episode to show somebody else.

Cristina: Why would they want to listen to the same episode?

Jack: Because you have to listen with somebody to talk about the show with. And whoever listened to it first is gonna have more ideas about it because they had it, they heard it once, so it can be sharper. The second person, they want that experience, too, which is part of the motivation to them getting somebody.

Cristina: What's the motivation of that person to go look for a third person to do that again?

Jack: He's way more informed now. Every time he listens, he's way sharper. So he's, like, getting smarter than everybody he shows the episode to. And when he shows the episode to them, he brags about his knowledge base about that or even even better, listens to the episode, goes and searches anything discussed to expand their knowledge. And then get another listener and listen to the show with them. And then they randomly pause it to talk about, oh, well, they mentioned this thing. This is what I know about the thing. How fascinating, right? Anyways, let's keep listening. And then the next thing shows up and like, oh, well, what I know about this is. And then little by little, they become masters of that one episode. But it always seems like they're listening to it for the first time.

Cristina: They should eventually just make their own.

Jack: Episode about that episode. Yeah, and link us.

Cristina: And link us.

Jack: Yeah, we will listen to your episode, about our episode, and then we'll talk about. Look, anybody's listening to this and does own a podcast. Do it.

Cristina: Do it.

Jack: Do it. And then tag us on, like, Twitter or Instagram, and then we'll go listen to that episode. You got to title the episode that just conversation podcast, by the way. Actually, that's a rambling podcast. Yeah. So you got to title it the Rambling Podcast. You titled the episode the Rambling podcast. And then we go and we listen to your episode about the rambling podcast. And we're going to title our episode in which we review your review of our show.

Cristina: But we'll name it after their podcast.

Jack: Name it after their podcast. But then they have to review our review of their review of our show.

Cristina: Yes. And it's only about this specific topic of whatever we're talking about today.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And nothing else.

Jack: Nothing more.

Cristina: Just each of us reviewing each other on the same topic.

Jack: No, well, it's not reviewing each other on the same topic. It's reviewing the episode that was reviewing. Yeah, well, the first one, they're just reviewing this episode.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because they're so informed. They did a bunch of research and they collected a knowledge base. Then they make an episode.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then we make an episode reviewing their episode. And then they're gonna make an episode reviewing our episode that reviewed their episode based on our episodes information and just on and on. We could just do this forever.

Cristina: Why would they want to do that?

Jack: It'll be great. It'll be the meta cast.

Cristina: Yes. We should do that, like, once a year. Maybe it shouldn't be, like, every episode.

Jack: Fair enough. Like. Like the annual review of whatever podcast we get tangled in forever now.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we're just gonna have a brother podcast or a sister podcast, I guess, depending on whether podcast is male or female. Our podcast females.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Cars.

Cristina: We have to ask the pronouns of the podcast.

Jack: Like, those are sister schools. Are these sister podcasts? Well, they're not related yet, but they're gonna be step podcasts.

Cristina: Step podcast. That's what.

Jack: Oh, yeah. So whoever's listening to this and has that idea, get really informed on everything we discuss this episode. There's a lot of things to talk about this episode. Because tragedies occurred and happened and life sucks and things suck and everything sucks. I hate everything.

Cristina: Why are you so sad?

Jack: I'm angry.

Cristina: Oh, you're angry. Why are you so angry?

Jack: Because subhumans are f****** stupid.

Cristina: How?

Jack: They killed Phil. We actually caught Phil, and then they f****** killed Phil. You know how long?

Cristina: You know how long killed Phil?

Jack: They starved Phil out. He needed adrenochrome. Then he got feral on the f****** ship. And then in order to protect everybody who wasn't a subhuman. Because at this point, I'm like, f****** Janeway that ship. And kill all those a******* for being too stupid to just have, I don't know, steal his supply. You don't need to make more. Just take his supply with you. I don't. They were just taking him to Mars. We were gonna interrogate him there, but they didn't. Like, aren't you guys supposed to be super absurdly intelligent?

Cristina: Aren't they?

Jack: They're supposed to be. This is an alleged detail that seems to have missed this one flight.

Cristina: Whoa. What if we lied to this whole time? What if they were never smarter, stronger, etc.

Jack: I mean, that would 100% prove why they're so expendable.

Cristina: Yes, yes, that does add up.

Jack: That's also why they can't overthrow us. Like how?

Cristina: Ah, so everything was a lie.

Jack: No, I doubt it. But they failed horribly. You should just take in the drinochrome he already had. Why did you take him and not what we know factually? He needs to function.

Cristina: We can always clone him and send that version.

Jack: He's already dead. We didn't grab samples of him.

Cristina: There's no fur or anything.

Jack: He's a dude. No, no. He's mixed with. H***, it doesn't even matter. He has adrenochrome in his body. He's mad. DNA running in there.

Cristina: Yeah, it would be complicated.

Jack: Yeah, it's impossible to decipher which part of the DNA is Phil. Oh, okay, so we caught Phil.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, he turned out to not be Jehovah.

Cristina: They checked that before he died.

Jack: We know he's godly. Yeah, his powers aren't so godly that he could beat us. Ah, okay, so he's godly, but like, we can handle that level of God.

Cristina: But like, Santa Claus can beat him up.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Santa Claus is on some horrish. Santa Claus could be actual Jehovah, so that's not really a comparison.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But he's weaker than the. Weaker than Jehovah.

Jack: Yeah, but. Yeah. So Phil's dead.

Cristina: That is sad.

Jack: We caught him after many, many, many, many, many months.

Cristina: We waited a whole year.

Jack: Yeah. We have this plan.

Cristina: Has been since last Groundhog Day.

Jack: Yeah. And it took a couple of dumbasses in one f****** space flight. Just like, how do you. How do you f*** this up? So we've done this a million times. There's so much s*** on Mars. We've done this a million times. How is the one thing we needed.

Cristina: Nothing else has died from not having adrenochrome in Mars.

Jack: Well, it didn't die because it didn't have adrenochrome. It got hostile and it's godlike. On a ship filled with people we need. Oh, if it was just subhumans on that ship, I've been like, f****** blow the ship up. He'll serve. F****** Phil will survive in space, but can't do anything. And then we go capture him again, this time inject them a couple of times with adrenochrome or however the f*** he drinks it or whatever he does with it. Yeah, and then we sedate him and throw him in the f****** cage and take him to Mars. No. No adrenochrome on a ship with important people who are on their way to Mars as well. And then we got f****** whatever sub humans decided to be stupid and not get the adrenochrome. And now we have a hostile, rabid giant. By the way, if you remember, the groundhogs without the adrenochrome become giant feral f****** monsters.

Cristina: They do. I thought they didn't.

Jack: No, because when they're feral, okay, they become these giant f******, like super beaver looking thing. Oh, you remember we saw a giant beaver demon or what a f***. That's what Phil becomes, okay? And we had that on a ship, okay?

Cristina: And so they had to.

Jack: They had to f****** dispose of this f*****.

Cristina: At least it happened after he did his thing.

Jack: This thing is useless now because we're all f*****. He can't mediate the weather anymore.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So if anybody thought climate change was real, which it wasn't, now it is. Because the person who was stabilizing climate is f****** dead. And since yesterday when it happened, and the temperature in our localized region was at 15 degrees today, the next day, it's already destabilized to 50 degrees. So we are f*****. Thanks, subhumans.

Cristina: That is a change.

Jack: That is kind of like tornadoes everywhere kind of change.

Cristina: Tornadoes every. Oh, my gosh. Tornadoes. I saw a giant epic fog coming here. It was ridiculous.

Jack: Yeah. Everything is f*****. Wow, it's. It's so f*****. If you look at the news, somehow out of the blue, unpredicted, doesn't know where it came from, suddenly formed a frost front with a snow back and a blizzard in the middle.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, my.

Jack: That's just headed towards where Phil was fighting from.

Jack: I wonder why it's happening.

Cristina: It has to do with Phil. Whoa. I mean, Phil's death.

Jack: Phil's death, because Phil was keeping all this s*** at bay, proves It.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So at least now we know what he was doing.

Cristina: Yes, now we know.

Jack: We thought psychic and just adrenochrome creature. No, he's godlike. We already thought he was literally God from how overpowered he seemed to be. And he was really overpowered. Not Jehovah overpowered, but pretty overpowered. Overpowered enough to control the weather, not just predict. Actually, that being said. Being said, the region of the United States where the destabilization has happened is half of the United States, which is actually a bigger region than Jehovah has ever influenced.

Cristina: One point, he had almost the world. Right.

Jack: Jehovah? Well, no. His word kept traveling, but he only interacted.

Cristina: Oh. From the. Okay.

Jack: While Phil was actively interacting with what seems like at least half of this country.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And this country is bigger than the entire series of countries surrounding the area where Jehovah was interacting. So it's arguable that Phil, through adrenochrome, is more powerful than.

Cristina: Or at least it was ruling way more.

Jack: Yes, well, he wasn't ruling anything. His power was just reaching farther.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: While Jehovah was only influencing a very minuscule region, Phil was kind of, all things considered. Yeah. If we do that comparatively, he's kind of more powerful than Jehovah.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: The question is, is he more powerful than Zeus? Zeus had a significantly larger area than Jehovah.

Cristina: How much larger? Not larger than the United States, though.

Jack: Roughly about the size of the United States collectively.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. No, it's probably smaller. It might be half. Yeah. So. Wow. So adrenochrome just, like, s**** on better than gods. Unless you're Santa somehow.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He's too overpowered. I don't understand. But that's the topic that we'll save until we get.

Cristina: Eventually we'll find out he also does adrenochrome.

Jack: Can you imagine it, really? We go and we study this man, and it turns out it really is St. Nick. And he's just been going in. He's been going ham on adrenochrome, possibly with whatever creature. The fairies. Not the fairies. The elves are. So we got the elves. They aren't regular elves or some sort of type of fairy. And St. Nick going in on adrenochrome, and we got this weird Santa thing where nobody gets hurt, but all the fear still had. It's just genius.

Cristina: It's genius.

Jack: Fear through joy.

Cristina: Fear through joy.

Jack: He just tells you, you can have joy, but I'm not gonna punish you by making you miserable. I'm gonna punish you by not letting you have the joy. You want the joy. Right.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Then you do good things. But if you do anything bad, which it's. It's. We're human. It's inevitable.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So then you can do the bad fear. Little. Oh, that joy I was promised just got a little less likely. Oh, no.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Overpowered. Overpowered system. Good job, Santa. You figured it out.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You are way overpowered.

Cristina: So crazy. What about the other guys that help him? We never talked. I mean, we have talked about, but not in that episode of, like, Krampus.

Jack: And Frosty and all these. Yeah, Frosty's a weird one. Because the argument is somebody has powerful enough magic to move the sentience of one being into an inanimate snowman.

Cristina: It's gotta be Santa.

Jack: That's. Frosty was probably made by Santa. I know Krampus wasn't. But Frosty. That could not have happened in nature. Unless we're confusing it and Frosty is a mythological creature of some sort and we just haven't connected those dots. We do know Sasquatch's counterpart is the abominable yeti.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: The yeti's counterpart is the abominable snowman.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're all made out of.

Jack: They got, like, fur and humanoid shape.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Is the abominable snowman.

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Really? So maybe the name has led us to picture a snowman. But if we went and looked at Frosty.

Cristina: Might look like a yeti.

Jack: Might look like a yeti. Like a bigfoot that's white. An abominable snowman. So he's the abominable snowman called Frosty. We hear Snowman. The toxin hangs out at the North Pole, and it's really just an op bodyguard they got up there.

Cristina: Oh, crap. Okay. Yeah. Maybe he's not even an actual snowman.

Jack: Actual snowman. This is actually interesting. This is something we have not investigated and we should definitely look into. And this one is probably provable so we can. We don't have to worry about locating a Santa. If we can just find him and actually interrogate him. He's probably kind of overpowered and particularly dangerous. If we were to talk about trying to get to Santa, but we could be like, can we talk to you?

Cristina: Mm. Hopefully he talks to us.

Jack: Yeah. Assuming he's not some creature that took f****** adrenal chrome or some s***, we should be good.

Cristina: He might be. I don't know. The hard part about talking to him is, like, the bigfoot doesn't want anyone to contact him. He's always hiding and stuff. Like, wouldn't it be the same problem?

Jack: Yeah. Also, why haven't we caught a Bigfoot?

Cristina: Because they disappear.

Jack: Well, here's.

Cristina: They travel like fairies.

Jack: Yeah, they do. They do. They do. There's powers. And I will tell you what's interesting about this. It's a creature with a bald face and bald hands, but hair everywhere else in their body. With magical abilities and a humanoid shape.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Does that sound like any other creature that you could just apply adrenochrome to? Why isn't Yeti just a gorilla that took adrenochrome?

Cristina: It's probably.

Jack: Probably is. Right? Yes, it probably is.

Cristina: Well, we don't have any proof.

Jack: We don't. This is all speculation. And testable. It's easily testable. We just got some couple of sub humans. Hopefully don't f*** this one up.

Cristina: They couldn't be humans, though. I feel like what if humans can become more than one thing?

Jack: We have no proof of that. We know the humans have become vampires and then when they do not have adrenochrome, become zombies.

Cristina: And we also know about werewolves that were humans.

Jack: Well, that's totally different. They got turned because of an animal.

Jack: We're talking a werewolf is a person who had a mutation with a wolf.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Versus a win dingo or a wetchudge. That is a wolf that has been exposed to adrenochrome. Those are two vastly different creatures. And what is it? Wendingo is the conscious elevation when you're still getting adrenochrome. And the wetchudge is when you've lost it and you become some feral demon trying to kill everything.

Cristina: Yes. You become a cannibal.

Jack: Yeah. So that is very different than werewolf. Werewolf. Because werewolf is a person who has their DNA mixed with a wolf.

Cristina: Yes. Mixed with a wolf. Mm.

Jack: Yes. But that's where we are. One. Yes. That just gave us a couple of ideas. We gotta go find a yeti and a Bigfoot and an abominable snowman. 1. Compare all three because why are you guys different? How are you so similar and different?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And with the Abominable Snowman, we can get questions if he's willing to talk.

Cristina: And see if he's actually Frosty the Snowman.

Jack: See if he's actually Frosty the Snowman.

Cristina: It could be the same.

Jack: Yeah, could be. If we find them where we're looking from you. The alternative is we don't and actually do find a snowman. Who the f*** knows? So. Yeah. That sucks about Phil. About Phil does suck About Phil. That being said, totally not related to this. We got a strange signal.

Cristina: An alien signal is the only type of strange. I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. It's hard to explain because it's. It came from space. We sent people out to space and it was seemingly coming from nowhere. Like literally nowhere. There was just a gap in space.

Cristina: Where it was coming from.

Jack: Where it was coming from. Like we went there.

Jack: It was by the meteor belt. And subhumans did anything and everything to figure out like they zoned into the inch of where it's coming from. And it's like there's literally nothing here but a signal emitting from seemingly nowhere. And it's scrambled. We can't understand it.

Cristina: What.

Jack: So that immediately caused a couple of problems and you know, quite interesting anomaly to come across.

Cristina: That sounds really crazy.

Jack: Yeah, it's really weird because we've gotten signals in the past. We recently talked about the wow Signal that was reached in the 70s. We know that that echoes back and forth repeatedly. We've got received own signals all the time. Yeah, we know specifically the wow. Signal was sent forward in time. Was sent forward, Went through some space anomaly and jumped backwards in time. So we received our own signal before we sent it because. F***. Time travel.

Cristina: Yes, but this may or may not be something like that.

Jack: Well, the ongoing theory amongst the subhumans at the moment is that whatever disturbance the portal is causing could have created a rip powerful enough that there are little bubble pockets everywhere.

Cristina: What kind of damage is this portal doing?

Jack: We need to stop it.

Cristina: We do.

Jack: We kind of have to stop this before all the universes merge into one or whatever the f*** is happening. Have some f****** no way home bullshit happen.

Cristina: Or like in the flash where all the universe became one.

Jack: Wow. That's really just the same thing, isn't it? No way home. And the flashes. Flashpoint, aftermath.

Cristina: Yeah, it's the same.

Jack: Wow. That's crazy. Is that crisis when all the universes become one? That is crisis, right?

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Crisis of many earths or whatever.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Interesting. I never noticed that. Yeah, that's totally the same s***.

Cristina: It's the same thing. Yeah, it's a dude in red.

Jack: Dude in red. And somehow his actions resulted in the smash of all realities.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Seems legit. And he jokes a lot. They both work.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. So that's kind of f*****.

Cristina: So what's the one? Just research.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. So we got to look and see what the h*** is happening. We've made some headway already. You know, we again, we Went there. We saw where the anomaly was coming from. Or didn't see where it was coming from. We saw the space where there should be something that's emitting the signal.

Cristina: The plan isn't to get rid of the portal, is it?

Jack: We don't know. We don't know. It depends on how dangerous the portal is. And also, how would we get rid of something that no matter which direction we go through it, it takes us somewhere else. Okay, how do we touch this portal?

Cristina: Yeah, so you can't actually destroy it.

Jack: Yeah, we need expertise, but. Okay, so what do we know so far? The portal has created interference through at least three separate universes that we're familiar with. One, two, and three.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We have no access to universe two anymore because the directly connecting portal there we destroyed on the other end. So it goes to nowhere. And we continue to receive reports that we are broadcasting just as widely in universe three as we are to universe one, which is our universe. The question is, are we getting a Signal from Universe 3 the same way they're getting a signal from us? Is our signal seemingly coming from nowhere? Except most people probably don't know how to work with receptor technology and have no idea where the signal is coming from. They never even questioned it. So they just log in, they see, oh, cool, show whatever, blah, blah, blah. They're reporting on fictional news or whatever think is happening. Yeah, but if they were to follow where the signal is coming from, it's not on their planet, and it's just somewhere in space in their local star system.

Cristina: You think it's happening in world three?

Jack: Yeah, I think our broadcast comes from nowhere. And I think we're seeing their broadcast. The problem with the theory proposed. This is proposed by our smartest of subhumans, the ones who have been doing physics as a thing the entire time. And the proposed theory has one momentous giant, ridiculous hole in it, which seems difficult to resolve, which is we connected a television to supervise Universe 3.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They don't have the technology to get as far into space as we see the signal.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: Well, presumably the location of our systems is just different enough that their earth is slightly moved, a couple of, you know, macroscopic units to one side or something. So we're coming from nowhere. So maybe in the nowhere that we see in space, on their end, there's a planet there.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And there's something on the planet.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The problem is that would require them to have the technology to get to the farthest parts of their own star, which they don't know, we barely have that technology. Everything else we've done is steal somebody else's technology. And that's why we have absurd Technology.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We just confiscated from creatures.

Cristina: Met a lot of aliens.

Jack: Yes. So we keep confiscating technology. Some people just give us things, depending who we're interacting with. Yeah, they don't have access to that. So how would they broadcast from one of their farthest planets if they haven't even gotten to their closest planet? Two theories to plug that hole up.

Cristina: What are they?

Jack: One is alien life that they're not even aware of. So if we can. We're thinking it's scrambled message.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Maybe the message is not scrambled. Maybe the broadcast is clear. We just don't understand it. Because it's alien.

Cristina: Because it's alien. Yeah, that makes sense.

Jack: That's one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Second is a little more exotic, which is to say that the signal is coming from a planet and it is a human signal from Universe 3, but it's coming from a future of Universe 3.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah. We already know that the black hole is causing not just space, but space time. Because they're one. It's f****** with space time. Not the black hole, the portal.

Cristina: Portal, okay. Yeah.

Jack: Portals f****** with space time. Yes, in general.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: In fact, it caused a series of events to happen before the hole was created. That's how far back in time it's affecting. So we know it's messing with space and time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Presumably that applies in any instance of its interaction with anything.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the signal we're getting might be from a future in that space. So it's a different space in ours, in a different time than ours, and a different time than their own. Because it's just a point in space time taken. And we're receiving that information. Which is also to say we cannot prove whether they in universe 3 are in the same year we're in. Maybe the reason they have not reached our technology is because they're actually in the past.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: And when we look at them, we're looking backwards to their past.

Cristina: What I thought we were in the same years.

Jack: Could be or could not be the portal. Like if we were to find a non time space fuckery hole there, would we arrive at a different time than the space time anomaly portal in your backyard. Is that f****** with time as well? And thus when we look through it and anybody goes through it, they're going back into Universe 3's past. And as a result, a hole that isn't f****** with time, just simply bridging the two Locations would take us to their present and they would look more like us.

Cristina: Whoa. You think they'll look like us? I doubt they'll ever be this advanced. But I mean, maybe. Yeah. In the future. Like, we don't know how long in the future it will take.

Jack: Well, wherever we are now, would they, at the same year, have more or less the same technology? It would make sense because Universe 2 worked that way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if we are all parallel universes, they should only be a little different. The massive differences we see when looking at Universe 3 right now seems like they're way removed. And could be the case the portal could just be connecting us to a really, really far universe that isn't in the slightest bit similar. But also, maybe it is, and we're just looking into the past.

Cristina: We could be looking into their past. What could we prove, though?

Jack: And that's why this would seem even more ridiculous to them, this technology they couldn't fathom.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yet.

Cristina: But it could be aliens.

Jack: But it could be. There's a lot of explanations to what is going on.

Cristina: I feel like aliens is the simpler thing.

Jack: It is an easy one. Yes.

Cristina: But it's easy to disprove as well.

Jack: Yes. If we can go there at the time of the broadcast. We just need to find out when the broadcast is taking place.

Cristina: Okay. Because it's not all the time.

Jack: What do you mean? Like through all of history? Yeah, no, yeah, we're getting it right now. We just have to go and see. And I guess from that universe move. I guess the idea would be take our time machine there with the receptor, go to the region where the signal is coming from.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And just start moving forward until we catch a signal. And there should be something there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When that happens.

Cristina: So there is gonna be some time traveling involved.

Jack: Yes. We're not gonna do it. And we're also going to do it. We're gonna install the time machine on a ship in space so that nothing is interacted with. It's just in space. We're not messing anything. We're gonna look.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We're also gonna. The ship should also have cloaking. We should have both visual cloaking and to any kind of radars or in detectors that are out there so that we're invisible to everything from all sides. And we're not on the location where something's gonna show up, but we're near it so that when we catch a signal, we know.

Cristina: And we can just investigate.

Jack: We can investigate, touch nothing, interact with nothing, alter nothing. Just find out whether this is Humans or alien life. And whether it's the right time or the wrong time or whether it's even coming from that universe, we could, in theory, be looking at the creature. And it's just a type of creature that we are just not receiving. Our senses could, in theory, not be perceiving the life form that's there.

Cristina: That is interesting.

Jack: And it's not even in a different universe.

Cristina: It's just.

Jack: It's outside of our literal perception. Our senses can literally not pick this life form up, but they use technology that creates waves we can pick up.

Cristina: Yeah, but that would be a creature in this world, not in.

Jack: That would be a creature in this world. Well, on the flip side, that could be a creature in this world. That could be creature through many worlds. It could be a creature spread out through dimensions. I don't know.

Cristina: Yeah, what.

Jack: But that's a complicated experiment to try to find something that our perception can't detect.

Cristina: We need to figure that out.

Jack: That's a complicated problem. So. Yes, so we had to get in contact with some physicists that are experts beyond our subhumans, and with the help of our subhumans, brain power. Because obviously these people are experts in their fields, and subhumans are astoundingly intelligent. The combination of we give you information, they process it, then they return it to the scientists, and this bounce back continues can probably answer that question. So we've had to get in contact with a plethora of scientists, of scientists. We've already done that. We've talked to a crap ton of physicists, astrophysicists, chemists, engineers, work on radios, radio technology, astronomers that are just scoping space. All. All the stuff, yes, we've done all the stuff. And we've come in contact with a lady named Catherine Fries, and she is expert not just in physics and astrophysics, but specifically space time anomalies. And specifically anomalies that alter the fabric of space. Which is good.

Cristina: Which is good.

Jack: Yes, exactly. What the.

Cristina: Gonna help us or. She's already helping us.

Jack: She has agreed to look at the data.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: Yes. So, okay, let me give you a little background here. Catherine Freese is a astrophysicist that has discovered the. Actually a theoretical astrophysicist. She is a theoretical physicist who's discovered in math, the existence of what is called a dark star.

Cristina: A dark star?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Have you heard of a dark star? I don't know.

Jack: It's a term that is quite elusive, doesn't get mentioned quite often.

Cristina: I've heard dark matter, and I think that's it.

Jack: And dark matter. And dark energy.

Cristina: Dark energy, yes. Totally different things, right?

Jack: Yes, actually she works with both of those things as well.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Catherine Fries has discovered the dark star, which is suggested to be similar to black hole, and the dark star that is titled to be kind of like made of dark energy.

Cristina: Kind of made, yeah.

Jack: So we don't know what dark energy is, but there is a collective of energy that behaves like a star. And she is also responsible for that math discovery, theoretical physics, and her mind applying what she knows to come up with these conclusions. So a dark star is basically all the characteristics of a black hole, except rather than there being a tear in the tremendous dent of the fabric of spacetime, there is no dent there. I mean, there is a dent. There is no tear in the. The furthest, deepest part of the dent. It. The fabric hasn't torn. It's just really, really indented to such an angle that light cannot escape. It's not fast enough to compensate for the amount of traction it needs. Black hole, create deep hole. Dark star, create deep hole.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Light no escape. Deep hole summary.

Cristina: Sorry.

Jack: All right, so yeah, she is the discoverer of that, and because of that, she is quite qualified to deal with energy based, space based, time based problems.

Cristina: So she'll help us out.

Jack: She said she'll look at the data.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We don't know if she'll help us out. It could look like ridiculous nonsense to her and totally not be worth your time.

Cristina: Oh, we got a time machine.

Jack: We do have a time machine.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And a quantum computer. She needs it.

Cristina: And a portal and a portal.

Jack: We have interesting things for her to work with if she's curious. And there's nothing a theoretical astrophysicist that works with space time anomalies would find more interesting than a space time anomaly portal that you can only theorize about.

Cristina: That's amazing.

Jack: Yeah, it's like candy. That happens to be crack.

Cristina: It's crack.

Jack: It's crackedy crack. D and she wants crack D she has to want the crack D It's the kind of crack D she would like.

Cristina: It's the. What's that blue stuff? It's the blue stuff.

Jack: What blue stuff?

Cristina: From breaking breath meth? Yes, the blue myth.

Jack: It's blue sky.

Cristina: Blue sky. Oh, that's what it's called.

Jack: Mm, Blue sky. So, yeah, that's what. Where we're at at the moment.

Cristina: Yes. That's crazy. That's still depressing about Phil, but this is very interesting.

Jack: Yeah, it sucks about Phil, but what the f*** can we do, man. This is kind of a real crap turn of events. We needed him.

Cristina: Crazy. Like, what are the chances? What are the chances when we're gonna go find him, he just dies?

Jack: Well, he didn't just die. Well, we kind of literally had to kill him.

Cristina: We killed him but to protect everybody.

Jack: Else on the ship. Because who the h*** makes the mistake of. Like, we all know you don't just take a heroin addict off of heroin. Yeah, he will die. You don't do that, problems will ensue when desperation kicks in. That's the most dangerous person in any room now.

Cristina: Yeah. So it was our mistake.

Jack: Yeah. If something gives you f****** powers and you're addicted to the f****** thing, should we take you without the thing that makes you stronger and more overpowered than everybody we've ever met?

Cristina: What happened there then?

Jack: It was just crazy lapse of judgment. I don't understand how nobody had the idea of. Maybe it's a good idea if we have this there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He has an abundance of it. Come on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also, why didn't we take adrenochrome just to study it?

Cristina: That's a good question. Why? We had a bad day.

Jack: Yeah, it was. We don't make many mistakes, but God d***, when we do, it compensates for all the mistakes we haven't made.

Cristina: Yes. Oh my gosh. We haven't had such a bad day.

Jack: Since we destroyed Mars.

Cristina: I was gonna say since we died the first time.

Jack: Did Mars get destroyed before or after that?

Cristina: Be after.

Jack: Maybe Mars got the. Straight after that. Maybe.

Cristina: I don't know the timeline.

Jack: Look, the first couple of clones weren't the best of people. Yeah, there's a lot of dark there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: A lot of horrible things happen. I actually don't remember. I keep forgetting which one I am. Yeah, but whatever. So, yeah, that's the catch up that we've. That's all we've got when it comes to what's been happening this f****** week. And the fact that we. A year.

Cristina: A year.

Jack: Year of planning meticulously and strategizing and figuring it out. We're getting close. We're planning the.

Cristina: You know how like so much mistakes after mistakes after mistakes. That's so crazy.

Jack: I don't know how this happened. It's just frustrating. I'm not happy right now. It is just a sad tragedy.

Cristina: But we know where to find Adrenochrome at least, right? Like they will still have it.

Jack: Like we have to go back for that.

Cristina: Yes. I think we need another year. We're gonna wait another year no, we're.

Jack: Just gonna go get that adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, right now we're not waiting a.

Jack: Year for the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: We're just gonna send them to go retrieve the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Alright.

Jack: Least we could do is study a functional batch.

Cristina: That would be great. Okay, That's a good plan.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yes. Let's do it.

Jack: We're gonna go reclaim the adrenochrome.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We're going to go find a yeti, a Sasquatch, which is presumably the same as a Bigfoot, but those could be different. Sasquatch, Bigfoot, Yeti, and the Abominable Snowman. Four creatures, man.

Cristina: There's four. Okay.

Jack: Two snow and two woods.

Cristina: One has to be the feral of the other, right?

Jack: Interesting. Yeah, interesting concept you have there. So the argument here is, cause Sasquatch is what's dangerous, right? Not Bigfoot. Bigfoot is just mystical and hiding. And Sasquatch is all the horrible stories of something. So some sort of ape, presumably a gorilla, that seems to already resemble and tend to be way bigger than humans in general.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Takes adrenochrome and becomes a Bigfoot. And they're overpowered. Magical. Intelligent. Way more intelligent than humans. Elusive. But when they run out of a supply after their body has adjusted and they go feral. You get a Sasquatch.

Cristina: Yeah. And I don't think the snow one is an ape. Because it's snow.

Jack: Because it's snow.

Cristina: But there's a bear that lives in the snow.

Jack: Oh, s***.

Cristina: They're big, they're white.

Jack: Then. Then we're not dealing with a gorilla. Maybe that's just a black bear or a grizzly. Wait, did we establish this before? I feel like we did come across this information before.

Cristina: So I don't know. I'm not sure.

Jack: Bear kills someone. They were horrified. In the process. Their body creates adrenochrome. The bear eats the body, consumes the adrenochrome, turns into a Bigfoot, runs out of adrenochrome and devolves into Sasquatch.

Cristina: That's possible.

Jack: It's quite possible. With the probability being there are more Sasquatch out there than Bigfoot. Because Bigfoot is who's elusive while Sasquatch is who we have horror stories of people have interacted with Sasquatch. People look for the non feral intelligent one avoiding humans.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay. But we're not sure if it's a bear or a gorilla.

Jack: Not sure. But if we assume, and we can confirm this once we go and find out, yeah, but actually, we can find out.

Cristina: Sounds right.

Jack: Yeah, it sounds right. Well, if we were to capture one or get one to convince. Convince one to let us take a blood sample. We could test whether this is a bear or an ape. But the same would apply to the abominable snowman and yeti.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because I believe yeti is the intelligent one and the abominable snowman is oftentimes referred to as some sort of monster.

Cristina: Yeah. Interesting.

Jack: So there is. I think we got thought out version and a feral version to what's probably just the polar bear.

Cristina: I feel like. That's right. I feel like they're bears. We've been wrong all along.

Jack: And the basic name to it tells us a lot too. It's a polar bear that lives towards the North Pole.

Cristina: Yeah, that makes so much sense.

Jack: Also polar opposite to the other one.

Cristina: Yeah. No one's noticed that connection. They're all thinking it's a monkey or something like.

Jack: Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

Cristina: Why would a monkey be in the forest? Do monkeys.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Well, I thought it was the jungle.

Jack: That too.

Cristina: That too. The forest and the jungle.

Jack: There are forest monkeys.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And there. I mean, not in the United States. I don't think there's natural monkeys in the United States. I have no idea.

Cristina: That's where they're found in the United States.

Jack: Which would make sense about bears.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that doesn't stop monkeys from existing in forests.

Cristina: But where. There. Where Bigfoots are found, though?

Jack: Well, Bigfoots are found. I doubt. Well, the problem is that Bigfoots are found everywhere on Earth as long as there are woods or jungles.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In jungles, Bigfoot is anywhere there are trees to hide behind.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Doesn't matter where you find the trees. If there's a lot of trees, there could be a Bigfoot there or a Sasquatch, whichever one you're using. But they could be counterparts, the same thing.

Cristina: Yes, I think so.

Jack: Yeah, I think so too. So we either find four different creatures or find. Collect, I guess, a stash of adrenochrome and get two normal creatures.

Cristina: Yeah, we just change them ourselves.

Jack: Here's. Here's where this kind of becomes a little risky. And we could face a similar problem to Phil, though. Phil was way more overpowered than we thought he was. We had no understanding of how powerful he really was.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now we've kind of begun an apocalyptic weather problem.

Cristina: We'll figure that out.

Jack: Yeah, we have to. We have to. That's. We got no option. We f****** give adrenaline. Come to another F****** groundhog. And like, bro, hopefully you got these powers because we need you right now, dude.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which we would need the supply of adrenochrome to do anyways.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So once we confiscate this, we literally have the power to gift people adrenochrome abilities.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We need that stash. That is priority number one at this moment.

Cristina: Fix the weather.

Jack: That'll fix the weather. And without the impending doom of our main planet, we can safely proceed to go get. We already have the sash. We can get just a polar bear and a regular bear and give them both adrenochrome and see what happens if they turn into yeti and bigfoot. Sweet. We solved a lot of problems if they don't. We have another animal Jones. We study whatever they become. Obviously.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But we're f***** because what the h*** is a yeti? What the h*** is the Abominable Snowman? What the f*** is Bigfoot? And what the f*** is Sasquatch?

Cristina: We test the apes out.

Jack: We test the apes out. We get gorillas and test it out.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Alternatively, if we can find these creatures, as elusive as they are, we have great technology. We have subhumans that are the greatest detectives ever. If we can send them out there to find the track to get these things, we don't need to go through this whole process and waste our adrenaline.

Cristina: Okay. Yes. That's a better idea.

Jack: And then we could just take a sample and have the answer. With a blood sample, we can tell what this DNA is.

Cristina: Okay. That sounds like a good idea. Why do we need them, though? It's just because there's another creature.

Jack: It's just because another creature we don't know about.

Cristina: We're just playing Pokemon in real life. Pretty much.

Jack: Yeah. Trapping a little of everything on Mars where they can escape.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: But what makes this particularly dangerous. Right. Is once we give these creatures. If they. If we don't find them and get them to agree with us. We're talking about creatures that are about as powerful as Phil.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like on a normal day before they go feral.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And if it goes through a panic as it's taking this form, who knows what. Who knows what? It could happen. We need to already have it on Mars before we begin any experiments in a region that is completely desolate and abandoned. We can't risk it causing some sort of magic problem.

Cristina: That is pretty crazy.

Jack: Especially because we don't understand how these powers really work.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We used to think Bigfoot was a fairy of some sort. We used to think Bigfoot Became the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Oh, shadow. Yeah. Because many different.

Jack: Because he's. He's seemingly the most elusive and complicated creature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So we're kind of hunting the Big Kahuna right now.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We've dealt with crazy creatures before, but we've never, in all our years working, had a solution to. What the f***? Bigfoot. To the point that we usually don't even discuss it. We don't bother. It's too complicated.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now we have access to adrenochrome.

Cristina: Now we can figure it out.

Jack: Figure it out? If it's. If we can't find them in nature, we can recreate them.

Cristina: We can. There's plenty of animals out there.

Jack: The scary part is we have the motivation to recreate them. So we better f****** find them. So we don't need to recreate them because we don't know how that's gonna go.

Cristina: No. That's pretty horrifying. You don't want to use adrenochrome at all. No.

Jack: That should be the goal. Avoid adrenochrome. That is last resort. Information gathering tool.

Cristina: Mm. But, like, we still have to make more though, right?

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because if we're gonna test out every animal eventually.

Jack: Well, we're gonna try to find creatures.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That are already.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And there's an abundance of research we could do.

Cristina: Yes. That's way better. Okay. That's. That should be what we do.

Jack: Yes. Now we have the fear of if we really need to come up with the creature. Well, we have adrenochrome. We better find it so we don't cause some catastrophe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because we can cause a catastrophe. We probably will if we're forced to create it in order to gather the information.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So I rather just go and find the thing.

Cristina: It'll be easier to find it. Maybe not. I don't know. This is the biggest challenge we have.

Jack: Yes. Catching the most elusive anything that has ever existed in all of time. We have come across aliens easier. We did not catch a Chupacabra, but we have encountered the Chupacabra. You know, we have crossed paths with some of the most exaggerated things ever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And somehow have not once laid eyes on Bigfoot.

Cristina: Mm. That's very interesting.

Jack: We interact with gods.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And have somehow. We just killed a God. We killed the God of weather.

Cristina: That's pretty horrible.

Jack: Yeah. And have still not once ever seen Bigfoot?

Cristina: No.

Jack: We have altered history. I literally changed the future willingly by choice. I destroyed an entire planet of colossal, disgusting, war hungry cockroaches.

Cristina: They were not war hungry Whatever got.

Jack: Rid of the Reptilians, took their planet and just enslaved anybody left. We. We work on huge scales. We have literally tracked, found, and sent people to interact with the Egyptian gods that are now just hanging out in the great void.

Cristina: The cat people.

Jack: Yeah. And still not once have we seen even proof.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Of Bigfoot.

Cristina: We've done a lot. Wow. Yes. And with the elves. Actually, we didn't hunt down all elves. I found one elf and the elf.

Jack: Information. Yeah.

Cristina: He talked. And he talked a lot.

Jack: Squealed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. Quickly.

Cristina: So hopefully the Bigfoot's like that. Who knows?

Jack: Yeah. I hope some. Some are willing. It's not all these creatures are bad. Some are just willing to, you know, discuss things. They don't f****** care. Everybody has a rebel, and we just got to hope we find that guy. Just give us some information or allow us to take a sample or something. We're not bad guys. We're not here to harm you. If you are willing to part to play ball. We're willing to play ball.

Cristina: We have harmed some.

Jack: Yeah, but not if they're willing to just help.

Cristina: What about the roach? The grouch people?

Jack: War.

Cristina: War.

Jack: Why didn't we just trap the fairy you were talking to?

Cristina: Because you weren't horrified it was a fairy.

Jack: Yeah. We don't have to kill everything. We can. We can just gather data. Yes, that's totally fine. Yeah, we gotta hope that we could do that with Bigfoot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And we need to go acquire that f****** stash of adrenochrome.

Cristina: We have to.

Jack: That is absolutely crucial and necessary one. It's not being guarded by Phil. Apparently, Phil was overpowered enough to guard his own sash. We had no idea. We thought it was future sight. We thought it was future. Well, he's powerful. The great God is.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it's not being an addict. It's like, who is gonna trespass and take it from you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, but he. It was overpowered. And he was good enough to defend it himself because he's so strong. But now if anybody finds out about.

Cristina: It, oh, we're gonna be in so much trouble.

Jack: Yeah, there's gonna be trouble. We. The last thing we want is someone.

Cristina: Else to stumble upon it.

Jack: Yes. And it just making its way into the black market or something and just spreading out through people who shouldn't have access to this. Then we'll have a problem. Now we have a we gotta stop superheroes problem, you know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: S*** got f*****. Everybody's a God suddenly, and we just gotta kill all of them. That's Bad.

Cristina: That's pretty bad.

Jack: We definitely gotta go acquire this.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We're the first case I know of that has completely left a stash of the most protected substance in the freaking universe. That literally. The Chupacabra, by the way, if you guys don't know, is a freaking interdimensional God that comes here specifically for adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, that's how protected this is.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You can't get it f****** anywhere. And we just left a completely unprotected huge stash. We're the first people to f***.

Cristina: It's a bad day. It's a bad day.

Jack: Yeah, there's a lot that happened yesterday.

Cristina: Yeah, I mean, like, those clones are probably not alive anymore.

Jack: Was it even yesterday? What day was that? That was a. I mean, I guess that wasn't.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess it could have been yesterday.

Jack: Yeah, I guess it's. Yes. Well, I guess. Yeah. Because they captured Phil on Wednesday.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: After he did his thing.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Then on the flight, he died.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So was that Thursday?

Cristina: That would have been Thursday.

Jack: It would been sometime because he's going to Mars. That's what, like three day flight? So he died on Thursday. We got the information that he died on Friday. So. Yeah, I guess we found out about his death yesterday.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But like, yeah, we gotta go get that stash. It's been too many days already.

Cristina: It's been too many. Oh, my gosh. What if it's nothing?

Jack: Oh, now we gotta retrieve it. Luckily, we have trackers in the subhuman. So follow the trail and get to it. But we got to do that before they use it. We don't want a problem. We can't stop.

Cristina: We could do, like, what do you do what they do with UFOs and just blame it on a weather balloon?

Jack: Yeah, no, we don't need any of that. Last worst case scenario, we have a time machine. We go back and immediately confiscate the Adrenochrome right after Phil is escorted before anybody else.

Cristina: As long as.

Jack: Yes, as long as you interact with nobody.

Cristina: Yeah. What if someone took it the moment he left? That would be crazy.

Jack: I doubt instantaneously somebody manifested there and took it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I doubt that on so many levels.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We are gonna be. Who does that?

Cristina: Yes, we'll be that. Okay.

Jack: The moment it's clear, we just walk in and take it.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. That's a great idea.

Jack: Done. And that is how we're gonna solve that problem if we don't get there on time.

Cristina: All right, that's fine.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So I guess mess things up. Too bad.

Jack: I f****** hate time travel. Always f*** something up.

Cristina: That's why I hate this plan. But if we have to.

Jack: If we have to, we have to. But like is. Oh my God. The problem is amount of s*** that just. Even if we don't interact with anything, I don't know what the f***. Anytime we time travel s*** hits a fan.

Cristina: Yes. Yes, it does. Like, I trust more the space time travel than the actual just time travel.

Jack: Yeah, me too. I hate time. I mean, that's why we've had this time machine. We haven't used this in like three years.

Cristina: Yeah, it's been quite a while.

Jack: It's been quite some time.

Cristina: But we gotta do what we gotta do.

Jack: I don't like any of this.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So much has been f***** in this week.

Cristina: Yes. It's been a bad week.

Jack: It's been a bad week. We haven't had a bad fear enough. It was overdue.

Cristina: And it wasn't our fault.

Jack: It wasn't our fault.

Cristina: So that's important.

Jack: That's good. That's a. That's a good turn of events. We're gonna get yelled at because they were under our care, but it wasn't our fault. We could be like. Well, some humans kind of f***** this one up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah, we followed the textbook this time.

Cristina: Doing what we were supposed to do.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I don't, I don't like. This sucks. This week sucks. And if we have to use the time machine, this week sucks more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Especially because then we got to figure out what, like, nothing got ruined. Whatever. No, something got ruined. We just don't know what it is yet.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We just gotta figure it out. We figured out. We gotta figure it out. We're gonna figure it out.

Cristina: We'll figure it out.

Jack: We gotta figure. We gotta.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And it's gonna suck. And like whatever turnout happens, if we have to use that time machine that sucks. We'll figure it out.

Cristina: Yes, it is what it is. Mm.

Jack: On the flip side, we never thought about this before.

Cristina: What?

Jack: We could just run a time travel simulation in the quantum computer that would tell us every possible outcome and know what's gonna go wrong.

Cristina: Ah, that's better. Okay, we do that. But that's only if it's not there.

Jack: Yeah. If we have to use a time machine, we could just run a quantum computation and find out.

Cristina: Good. Because we never use that either. This is a perfect solution. This is a perfect.

Jack: Last time we used was either to run the sense lacking experiment to test consciousness or the One time we were testing the Matrix by generating our own. One of those was the last time we used it. So we actually haven't used the quantum computer in longer than the time machine.

Cristina: Well. And we used it a little more. We used at least twice.

Jack: Yes. While the time machine was used for one instance.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which was to kill to get rid.

Cristina: Of some cat people.

Jack: Yeah. It wasn't to kill. It was to beat their accelerated rate of multiplication.

Cristina: That's a weird solution to a weird problem. But solved it, I guess. Cuz there's humans still.

Jack: Yeah, Yep, yep. I mean, that's way in the future. But so are a bunch of people who should have been in our timeline right now.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So whatever.

Cristina: I don't understand how that makes sense. That doesn't make sense.

Jack: No, it totally does. We send people every 10 year gap.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Into the future. Thus there's a new fresh set of people willing to reproduce in that timeline. But every 10 years a new group of people shows up. Then keep having new people and whatever. So in this 2, 300 year period, we sent people. While the decline of humanity begins around this time that we are in right now. We actually didn't predict the event back then that led to the cat people taking over, but we're actively experiencing that right now.

Cristina: Yes. I didn't realize that. Yeah, that's happening right now. Whoa.

Jack: It wasn't just a virus, was it? Phil is dead. Was that part of the problem? Was there some weather catastrophe as well that helped the extinction of humanity and then the overpopulation of cats maybe? S***. Did we cause the problem that I had to fix?

Cristina: Did we?

Jack: Oh, this is the f****** problem with time travel. This is why I don't want to use it. Because this.

Cristina: But you are fixing your own problem.

Jack: Well, I didn't f****** kill Phil.

Cristina: That's true. Your team's problem. Okay. You are fixing the problem.

Jack: Problem that the subhumans created by being stupid.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So Phil dying. And the weather literally becoming apocalyptic overnight.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: so Phil. Then we have this virus that seems to be some sort of alien. So we have this alien virus attacking and consistently changing itself genetically to adapt to us and be more harmful.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We have pollution problem happening. Just general pollution. We've exceeded a certain amount. We're talking. We're f****** choking our planet out. The giant meteor that's headed our way.

Cristina: There's most of the planets underwater.

Jack: Most of planets underwater is. There's a lot happening. I understand. Now it's very apparent what we didn't know back then that like this is the moment that it began. This is the decline. This is the beginning of the decline.

Cristina: Because Phil is dead.

Jack: And Phil. Well, not because Phil was dead, but that's one of the things that's adding to it.

Cristina: Yeah. A big thing.

Jack: Big thing. Big thing. Big thing.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Crazy. Crazy. And that also explains now Phil dies and we have this giant jump in temperature and a three part storm front of crazy winds on one side, frost snow on the other and crazy hails in another, all smashed next to each other.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But that didn't affect anything west. The reason fires have been happening over there is because Phil wasn't over there to stop it. And now we know he could only protect seemingly from halfway through the country all the way towards us.

Cristina: Yeah. But now he's gone.

Jack: Now he's gone.

Cristina: We lost our protection. Weird.

Jack: And the temperature jumped up immediately. Yeah, instantaneously. It jumped up. F***. Ton of degrees.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: From 15 to 50.

Cristina: So eventually we will burn. Like everyone.

Jack: We might be headed towards what people have been thinking was happening this entire time, except now it's actually happening because we killed Phil. Yay. So you guys are caught up. This is the wow. Disasters that we're dealing with right now. We are in. Yeah, Disaster week. Oh, I guess episode name right there. Disaster week. So, yeah, we're in cleanup mode. Emergency cleanup mode. Stop the world from ending. Emergency cleanup mode.

Cristina: Yes. And also some traveling crap we got to do.

Jack: Yeah, we got a. Hopefully Catherine helps us. Yes, hopefully. And we can solve a lot because we got new questions to answer and way more problems to solve.

Cristina: Way more. It just gets worse and worse.

Jack: Yes. And the possible investigation that we are partially the reason that humanity declined. And I had to fight that in the first place. So there's a lot of questions to answer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Questions that we've ignored for years and years and years because we're like, oh, it's fine, it's done. Anyways. That catches you guys up. If you guys are interested in finding out more things of this nature and finding out about all these discussions that we've had that now we have to slowly piece together and fix.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You can find those episodes on the official website greatthoughts.info on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts and.

Cristina: You can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe. That's very important. You'll be informed when new episodes arrive and rate and review the show and tell us what you think about it. And please Be with us in spirit and prayer, because s***'s hard.

Cristina: Is there a groundhog emoji? Send us some groundhog.

Jack: Send us a groundhog emoji.

Cristina: I don't know if that's a thing, but maybe, maybe. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. Depending. Regardless of whether actually. If you're in universe one or in universe three. It doesn't matter. Actually anybody who in heaven, there's no earth over there. But if somehow you're f****** hearing this and you understand what we're saying and you're in universe two, f*** it. Share it too.

Cristina: And if you're in four or five or six, if there's more.

Jack: Look, if there's more universes we don't know about, it's f****** great. Whatever. Share it. Tell people. Just probably.

Cristina: Maybe let us know how though, in the comments. They can't.

Jack: We wouldn't get their comment. They'd just put it in whatever version of this land in their universe.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We'll never see it, but that's fine. Do it anyways.

Cristina: Do it anyways. And this has been. Actually, it doesn't make sense because they'll be universe one to themselves. It's not like they'll have a number, though.

Jack: Yeah, they don't know where the f*** they are. Everybody's Universal Universe 1.

Cristina: Yeah. So that's not helpful at all. All right. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. It doesn't matter what they said. Just I'm grabbing onto my hand.

Jack: Isn't that the fear of being a woman though? Being held by random strangers? That's just a thing guys do.

Cristina: Oh, yes. Don't touch me.

Jack: That's what I mean. That's just a thing that guys do.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They just go. And they touch women for whatever reason.

Cristina: Is it some weird like universe that men do that all the time to other men and it's normal.

Jack: Gay guys do it. Oh, guys do it regardless of to who they're doing it to.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, would you grab a strange girl's hand? I mean, not a strange girl, a guy. Would you grab another guy's hand?

Jack: No, but I'm not gay.

Cristina: Oh. It's just gay guys that grab hand.

Jack: Gay guys grab guy's hand regardless of straight or gay.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And guys, I'm. Yeah. Guys grab women. Straight guys grab women hands regardless of whether the woman is straight or gay or whether she wants it or not. And gay guys grab straight guy hands regardless of Whether they're straight or gay. And it's not just hand grabbing, it's touching and getting real close in proximity sort of invading personal space. There is a collective guy problem going on. It probably happens with women, but way less. Not to say that it's equal to rape. Rape wise, it's about 50. 50. It's just not discussed as often for women.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: But generally speaking, the violation of personal space. The problem is guys are way less sneaky than women.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so guys are just blatant and out there because they're like, society allows this from us. It's structured in such a way that what's a woman gonna do? The f*** she gonna do? Just f****** do nothing. She's gonna f****** back away and he's just gonna get closer.

Cristina: Yes. That is so gravy. Too.

Jack: F****** nothing's gonna happen to that guy. You can get scared, you can get off the train, he'll follow you for a bit, then you're going to go somewhere public and he's going to panic and leave and nothing's going to happen to him beyond that point.

Cristina: It's a horrible situation.

Jack: Yeah. And it's exactly how it plays out.

Cristina: It's not going to not be normal. That's so weird.

Jack: That's so f****** weird.

Cristina: Don't touch my hand.

Jack: And guys just do that s***. Just random guys. I don't understand what the mentality behind it is though. It is weird as f***.

Cristina: I don't know. Like, it's not romantic, is it?

Jack: No. I think, look, I think part of the problem is f****** pornography fried people's brains.

Cristina: You think people are following that?

Jack: Yes. Let's picture this. Plumber shows up at your door, he's about to fix your pipes and then he just gets too close and you decide, okay, time to f***. That's p***.

Cristina: Yeah, but she obviously wants him though. Like she's not like, oh, get away from me.

Jack: Yeah. It doesn't change the fact that guys have no idea how to read those differences. Guys are f****** stupid.

Cristina: Oh, okay. If he's in p***, she's very into it. She probably is the one that is like instigated.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz that's the guy's fantasy. She just wants to f*** me.

Cristina: Yeah, well, wait for that woman.

Jack: On the flip side, there's also such a thing as rape fantasies. Oh, that's problematic. There's also the fact that guys want to be the one to pursue. Yes, it's great to be pursued. But some guys want to dominate as well. They just like the, I, I succeeded at this myself. I accomplished a thing. She didn't want me. I made her want me. Now she does want me. That's so mentality.

Cristina: I don't know. That's kind of wrong, but. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister, with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 142: Slow Burn Apocalypse

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Is everything a lie? Are there aliens? Were there more Native American lives lost that we can fathom when arriving in America? Is Western Culture manipulated by media? And is this virus actually as bad as we are told it is? The clones try to unpack what is true and how western society has corrupted the minds of its people.

Rambling 142: Slow Burn Apocalypse

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Topics Discussed

  • Michael Horn
  • Aliens
  • Hive Mentality
  • Under Performing
  • Western Culture
  • Individualism
  • Corrupt Western Culture
  • Unity
  • Political Teams
  • Native American Genocide
  • Hawaiian Slaves
  • Tornado in Jersey
  • Climate Change Isn’t Real
  • Slow Burn Apocalypse

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast. The show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: And this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to grab somebody, pull them aside, bring them to you, and have a hefty, hefty listening session about, on through this show.

Cristina: This show. It's gonna be 10 hours long.

Jack: 10 hours long. It's gonna be the longest show we've ever had.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean the show we had with Dave was pretty long.

Cristina: That was.

Jack: That was one of the first. What was it the second time we had him that we were just there for like five hours.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Breaking them records, man. We were on some Joe Rogan time.

Cristina: Yeah. Was it Comedy Bang Bang did one that was like 12 hours long.

Jack: No, they did their 10 hour episode.

Cristina: 10 hours?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: We gotta do a 10 hour.

Jack: Never happening.

Cristina: Never happening.

Jack: That's hardcore. He did that by having like 20 guests.

Cristina: Yeah, you can come up with 20 guests somehow.

Jack: What? You know how hard it is to just find somebody interesting? There's a lot of people. It's just people aren't necessarily interesting.

Cristina: Yeah, we'll do it on the radio app thing. Stereo. We'll just have. We'll be there 10 hours straight.

Jack: 10 hours straight. Getting ramp. The problem with that is that it's inconsistent people. It's just a lot of waiting as people come through and like nobody falls into the room. So as soon as we're done with somebody who had to leave because it's 10 hours, then we have like 20 minutes of silence.

Cristina: That's true.

Jack: Waiting for somebody to show up during that time. Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: It will keep going, just filling in the gap.

Jack: Interesting. But then how do we mute the f****** search thing on the stereo app? I hate that sound there.

Cristina: You check the options for that?

Jack: No, but it's f****** annoying. I hope I can turn it off if we can't. And if we can't. That's my point. I haven't checked the options. So if we can't, then what?

Cristina: But if we can.

Jack: But if we can't, then why. Obviously if we can, then success.

Cristina: Yeah. But if we can't, we find 10 people and have an hour conversation with Each of them. Is that how it works? I don't think anyone can do an hour. I mean. No, we do that all the time.

Jack: Yeah. With five people we can do two hours a piece.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The problem is also scheduling that.

Cristina: Well, some people, if they could schedule in like a half an hour, like, well, it will be varied the time schedule of everyone so they can choose the amount of time they want to take out for this 10 hour thing.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. So it could be like half an hour or maybe someone's like I could be there half an hour in the beginning, but then I'll be five hours later. I'll be free to do two hours or something and then they could come back.

Jack: That seems so annoying to have. That's like not even a little interesting. Because it would be too difficult to organize.

Cristina: Yeah, that is.

Jack: It'd be kind of a pain in the a**. That just sucks out the want to do that at all.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Having to schedule million people in different time slots and different organizations. This person leaves, comes back, that person's gonna be here this long in the middle. This person's only gonna this time. But that's gonna be the app that s***.

Cristina: So no 10 hour. No, no. You can do a 10 minute episode. That would be unique.

Jack: Right. People are boring and I'm not doing that. The problem is people suck. And getting so many people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Sucks. Yes, it sucks. Never in a million years am I gonna do that. That's why we have so few guests. Generally speaking. I'm not just gonna have whack people coming through. It needs to be content that people can be like wow, interesting or somebody actually I don't give a if they like it. I, I need to like talking to.

Cristina: The person like wow, interesting.

Jack: Yeah, I have to want to talk to this person. Yeah, I'm just gonna pick a bunch of garbage people.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: Because that sucks. Who the wants to do that? I don't know, just I'm the one taught. You could talk to them if you want to talk to them.

Cristina: I don't think so.

Jack: I'm not gonna be here talking to a bunch of boring people. Yeah, I'm not doing that either. I'm not going to be here talking to a bunch of wack people who've got nothing interesting to say. No, I want people who just open minded and want to discuss their thoughts and their ideas.

Cristina: Yeah, I wonder. We need to do a episode though with a guest that we have questions from our listeners, especially Mike.

Jack: That's for Michael Horn.

Cristina: Yeah, Michael Horn.

Jack: H*** yeah.

Cristina: Specifically I know we have questions for him. Backed up.

Jack: Yes. No question at all. For season six. There's that Michael Horn's coming back.

Cristina: He has to.

Jack: He has to.

Cristina: He has to. There's people.

Jack: Yes, people have questions.

Cristina: I have questions.

Jack: Yeah, me too.

Cristina: Me too.

Jack: I gotta listen back. There was. It was an information dump, man.

Cristina: It was.

Jack: There was a lot going on.

Cristina: There's too much going on. And if you actually look up the research on these websites, it's just so much info, so thorough. I don't know how anyone can like spend their time researching this topic. It's.

Jack: Yeah, no, you were either there from the start or you're never catching up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or get Michael Horn and he'll teach you. Yes, he's gonna teach you the ways.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Interesting though.

Cristina: And who knows what other interesting things happened to him after we talked to him.

Jack: I mean, nothing really happened to him.

Cristina: No. But he was there at least on one of those events.

Jack: He was there through many of the events.

Cristina: Oh, many of them, yeah. So yeah.

Jack: It's just nothing happened to him.

Cristina: No.

Jack: He's just witnessing stuff happen to Billy Meyer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's pretty dope, man. Just watching basically a current day messiah experience. Weird anomalies and like supernatural events happening from like time traveling and interdimensional aliens and s***.

Cristina: And evil robots.

Jack: They were evil robots.

Cristina: Evil Internet entity.

Jack: Oh, the sentient like conglomerate thing that.

Cristina: Was made out of prayers.

Jack: Made out of prayers?

Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was made out of prayers of hate or some weird thing like that.

Jack: Yeah. I don't know.

Cristina: It's a complicated story.

Jack: There's a lot going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot going on in there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's a crazy world. I definitely want him back. My question is, is he the only person who has like Billy Meyer, is he the only, like. Let's say this alien race is real, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they are. It's truly happening. All the events that we were told by Michael Horn has happened to Billy are real. Does. Are there others and does he know of them?

Cristina: Yes, because there's a lot of people who have talked to aliens. So has anyone talked to the same aliens?

Jack: That's an interesting question. Is it like this specific alien race only interacts with him and nevertheless these aliens are us somehow?

Cristina: Yeah. So how do they. I don't know. There's us somehow they're us in the future or something.

Jack: So it was something like that. They're genetically the same.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Whether we share ancestors or we literally are them, like in the future. Like we are the Ancestors, of course, or something. Somehow those aliens and us are identical.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he's also talked with other aliens besides those specific ones. Have he? Has he talked to the one from. That guy from Area 51 that he was talking to? That alien that was working with him? Did that guy ever escape and talk to other people?

Jack: The guy from Area 51?

Cristina: Yeah. He was talking to an alien that was. He was helping build a spaceship with or break down a spaceship or some crazy story like that.

Jack: Oh, you mean Dave. Is it last something Lazaro.

Cristina: From Joe Rogan, I think it was that he was talking about that story.

Jack: I mean, he was on Joe Rogan. He ain't from Joe Rogan. He's not like. Well, Joe Rogan has a group of people that have.

Cristina: He might.

Jack: He might. He has a re. Now. He has the resources.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: After his Spotify deal, who knows, he might be running Area 51.

Cristina: What? So, yeah, what if that guy's alien buddy has contacted Bob? Bob?

Jack: Oh, Bob and Billy. Oh, man. They sound their names, tell me they know each other.

Cristina: They have to.

Jack: It's Bob, Billy, and Steve.

Cristina: Who's Steve?

Jack: I don't know. Some other guy.

Cristina: Oh, my.

Jack: The other guy who talked to the aliens. Bob, Billy, Steve, Frank.

Cristina: So the aliens just pick the most boring name.

Jack: Yeah, Mike. Just a Bob, Billy, Frank, Steve, Mike. All these guys?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're the only people allowed to talk to aliens. What if your name is complicated? Like, you can't be a zachariah and talk to the aliens. They're like, nah, I can't say your name, so I'm not talking to you. I'm insulted, but Bob, Mike. No. Jesus.

Cristina: What was his name? They said his. His name is not Jesus.

Jack: No, his name wasn't Jesus. It was Emmanuel.

Cristina: Emmanuel? Yeah.

Jack: That is a pretty complex name.

Cristina: That's a complicated name.

Jack: That's why they stopped. That's why they're like, we're over this. We're just talking to Billy, Mike, Frank, Steve, Bob, all these.

Cristina: That's has to be one or two.

Jack: One. One vowel. That's it.

Cristina: That's it. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. Nothing more than that.

Cristina: That's awesome. Maybe we can go visit him and see for ourselves the weird things.

Jack: Is it. Who?

Cristina: Billy, Bob, whatever.

Jack: Isn't he. Isn't he, like, German or something?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: So, like, we will totally not be able to communicate with him.

Cristina: No. But we have Michael to communicate with us.

Jack: My question is, does Michael speak German? Like, we never asked him this. How does. How does he Communicate? Do they just have a translator present at all times?

Cristina: A translator?

Jack: Or does he know German?

Cristina: He must by now because he lives there.

Jack: He lives in Switzerland, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you speak. No, he speaks Swiss German.

Cristina: Swiss German?

Jack: That's a whole language of its own, the Swiss German. Like the Germans don't understand Swiss German, but the Swiss Germans understand German.

Cristina: But they're both in Swiss Switzerland.

Jack: What, German? No, Germany is its own place.

Cristina: Billy is also there.

Jack: Oh yeah, they're both in. In. In Switzerland.

Cristina: Yeah. So he must have picked up some Swiss German.

Jack: Yeah. I mean, depending how long he's been there. Was he there when we were talking to him?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: So that's fascinating. You gotta go meet him, hang out.

Jack: Yeah, maybe not.

Cristina: Some weird stuff happens.

Jack: Yeah, probably not.

Cristina: Probably not. Maybe the aliens will contact you somehow.

Jack: I doubt it, but I would like to. I don't know. It's really interesting. Aliens are complicated, man. I wonder like what system an alien goes through to contact people.

Cristina: Really, what system?

Jack: Like, what logic do they use to reach out and talk to somebody? Like, is it one just bored on chat or is it like, well, I gotta give you a secret message.

Cristina: It's always a secret message.

Jack: No, it's not always a secret message. Some people just receive some intercepted s*** that had nothing to do with them.

Cristina: Allegedly.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah. Why would aliens want to talk to us?

Jack: I don't know, maybe to see if we're intelligent. It'd be like if we could really start. I would have a conversation with the dolphin. Give me whatever's going to translate it and I just. I want to see, I want to know. I'm curious.

Cristina: That is pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah. Would you want to talk to other animals though? Like even dumber animals? Would that matter? Like if you could communicate? Like they always talk about us to aliens, would be like us to ants. Wouldn't you want to know even if they said one word or.

Jack: Yeah, be like, what is the one word that the ant is going to say? Yeah, like I would totally.

Cristina: They just say. They just scream all day or something. I don't know. But you will get to hear what's in their mind if there is something there.

Jack: I think like ants, we would just hear work, work, work, work, work, work, work over and over and over and over and work, work, work.

Cristina: What is the queen saying?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Is the queen the same like the bee? The queen bee that she's just.

Jack: Yeah, the queen just chills at home. Yeah, they.

Cristina: That sucks. That's great. I guess, yeah.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: What would her word be?

Jack: I know, you tell me.

Cristina: Work.

Jack: Work. She's just screaming work. And they're like, okay, we're gonna work.

Cristina: Yeah. And then she's lashing them with her whip or something.

Jack: I mean, she isn't the slave driver. They're not slaves.

Cristina: They're not.

Jack: They volunteer, they're loyal, they're patriots.

Cristina: Oh, okay. They are. I thought they were more like the guys from Star Trek, that they're just together one minded.

Jack: Oh, the Borg.

Cristina: Yeah. Like it's not. It's kind of slavery still.

Jack: It's no in. In Star Trek, it's slavery.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because it's against their will. They've been forced. They're not part of this. They've been forced into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're born into it. And it's just their culture.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And culture is. We always protect the queen. We do whatever for her whenever. And we, you know, we're community. We work together to make everything function.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's totally the opposite of humans where we're like, nah, f*** this s***. Individualism. Then again, that's Western culture s***. Because Eastern culture has. They don't have as much individualism.

Cristina: Then what is their main thing? They work together.

Jack: Yeah. It's not individualism. The opposite of that would be unity.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: Individualism is problematic because, I mean, it distinguishes you from others.

Cristina: And that's a bad thing.

Jack: Yeah. Because we are kind of selfish.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Eastern culture has a complete and total lack of that. And like, family is really f****** important in Eastern culture. In Eastern culture, family is really important. Community is really important. You do whatever you can for your workplace. You do whatever you can for your family. You endure the hard times because it is important. Because society functions on sacrifice. Over here, my job sucks. I f****** quit.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Boom. Now that job has one less person that affects the economy in a minor way. But you put the collective of people across the entire country who just randomly quit a job and that tiny little hit. But collectively, ooh, the impact. And then we're like, well, our economy sucks. It's like casually abandoning jobs, casually picking up jobs only looking for jobs that we're under qualified to have, then underperforming at the job in the first place because I'm special and I deserve this. Meanwhile other places like, well, I'll start at the bottom. That's what everybody does. And then I'll work my way up if I earn it.

Cristina: Because it's about the company.

Jack: It's about making sure the company looks good. I'M part of the company and if I look good and I make the company look good, then I'm valuable and I go up in the company. Over here it's like, no. Well, you don't treat me that way because I'm an individual.

Cristina: The company is the enemy.

Jack: Yeah. Over here we fight. We're lazy, dude. Western people are f****** lazy.

Cristina: We are. That's why we have driving cars.

Jack: Self driving cars.

Cristina: Self driving cars. Like that's the future. That's. Everything's going to be like that.

Jack: Yeah. That's fair.

Cristina: Although we already do have stuff like that. Like those weird things the cops use. What is it that they. It just drives like a Segway. Yeah, Segway.

Jack: I don't walk anywhere. I stand and I just glide places.

Cristina: Yes. It's crazy that. Not. There's a lot of people using that. That's ridiculous.

Jack: You ever seen the skinny person use it?

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: I'm sure there's a few. They're on scooters. That's what they're doing. Electric scooters.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: It's the same thing.

Jack: Yeah, more or less.

Cristina: Yeah. It just looks cooler.

Jack: It's f****** weird, though. But I don't know, it's. Whatever. Individualism does fail hard, though. It's not designed like, the system isn't designed to have like the human system. The human isn't designed for individualism. That's a pretty recent concept.

Cristina: How recent?

Jack: Pretty recent? I don't know. At some point.

Cristina: At some point.

Jack: It used to not be that way, though, because it used to be. Think of Native Americans. Right? There wasn't like your kid. My kid. There was like the kid of the tribe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And like kids crying. I don't tell you. Hey, your f****** kid is crying. Go handle your business. I go handle the kid. Because he's our kid, part of our tribe, and we take care of each other.

Cristina: Now. There's no trust, though, for that type of distraction. There's no tribe. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. There's individualism.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: There is no tribe.

Cristina: Yes. And now we just don't trust anyone.

Jack: Yeah. Everybody's bad. Everybody's the enemy. It has to be me over you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Always.

Cristina: Always. For everything.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That's what the whole mass thing is about. Or pretty much everything on the news is about everything.

Jack: Always. Well, they. Yeah, they force it. They 100% try to force individualism on everybody because it keeps people divided, too. If you're united, then you're not like. Well, you're the enemy. No, no, no. We're the same. We're from the same class, we're from the same neighborhood where we go to the same schools, we work the same jobs. We're. We're the same.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Those people are the enemy. They can't have that. Western society needs you to, like, attack you because then you attack. Or if you're not attacking yourself, you're attacking them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Individualism is good for the elites, and.

Cristina: That'S why it's here.

Jack: That's why it's here.

Cristina: That's crazy. What?

Jack: There's way less corruption in Eastern culture.

Cristina: Are you sure? How do you know that?

Jack: Because there's way less corruption in Eastern culture. Usually the government is the one handling not. It's not even corrupted. It's just usually manipulating the people in, like, a blatantly obvious way. They're not corrupt and hidden in the shadows doing sketchy conspiracy s***. Like, there's crime everywhere. No s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But over here, like, everybody is criminal. If you are elite, chances are you're doing something sketchy.

Cristina: Yes. Over there, it's not sketchy because it's out in the open a lot of the times.

Jack: Because it's all for the sake of the bigger picture.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Everybody's in. Like, honor is important in Eastern culture. Heavily.

Cristina: Yes. We don't have that.

Jack: We don't have that. So if you do something that violates your honor, you're kind of f***** up and your business might be screwed. And if you're a dishonorable person, you're probably going to be fired because you don't want to make the company look bad.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You see, it's really, really important over here. That doesn't matter at all.

Cristina: It doesn't.

Jack: What my question is, then, places like in Russia, does that count as Eastern culture? Sort of the middle ground, Right? A little bit of here, a little bit of there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because, like, are Russians united? I have no, like, I got no reference point for that.

Cristina: Are they. They're. They're Eastern, maybe.

Jack: You think. You think they're Eastern? That counts as an Eastern culture?

Cristina: Not sure.

Jack: I feel like they're kind of Western, but, like, I couldn't tell you for sure.

Cristina: I couldn't. No. They're very close to the Eastern culture.

Jack: They are literally touching Eastern countries. That's not the point of where they're, like, geographically located. I'm saying, like, what is their culture like?

Cristina: Huh? I had no idea.

Jack: It's interesting, right? Because based on what we hear, they're also communists, you know. Okay, great, whatever. So it's a communist country.

Cristina: But, like, how do they work together. Do they work together?

Jack: Do they work together? How are the people?

Cristina: How are the people? Yeah.

Jack: Interesting, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They do casually turn on each other. They have real rigid laws and stuff. Here's the flip side. Right. Individualism allows everybody to have a certain amount of rights and we acknowledge when they're being violated.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That does not exist in Eastern culture.

Cristina: It doesn't exist. What do you mean?

Jack: Okay, for example, protest. No. Like cops being racist towards black people.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That doesn't happen in eastern culture where there's like a specific group of people that cops are being racist to and then it's being acknowledged in the news and in the media and people are rioting and doing things to solve that problem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Does not happen because police are part of the system and you got to be united.

Cristina: Yes. So they're probably not being racist.

Jack: They're probably being racist somebody. But it's not being addressed or protest or fought or fixed. Because then that would make the police look bad.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So the individual doesn't matter. It matters that the police retains trust because when there's something really bad happening, we need the people to trust the police.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: Over here we don't trust the police. Which means if something really bad were to happen, probably really bad things would continue to happen because we wouldn't allow the police to do their job. But when there isn't something really bad happening, the police are abusing their power anyways. Double edged sword on both ends. Because in the other side. Yes. We make sure that people trust the police no matter what. But then the police can casually abuse their power.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Without it ever being addressed.

Cristina: Why is it so easy for them to do that?

Jack: Interesting. I just think more places need to be like France.

Cristina: The whole protesting thing.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Whole country rises up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's you. They're f******. They're western though.

Cristina: We did that.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: In the summertime. Not this summer. Last summer. Yeah. But it was a one time event. But it happened.

Jack: It kind of wasn't necessarily though.

Cristina: It wasn't like France.

Jack: No, it wasn't like France because we had resistance from the people here too. It was not just the people striking against the government, but a whole other half of the people siding with the government.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: France is like the people versus the government. Here was like the people versus the people versus the government.

Cristina: Because it's always going to be like that here though.

Jack: Yeah. The problem is individualism. Left, right, Politics.

Cristina: Yes. Team. It's a team sport.

Jack: Every team base, you know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's Problematic.

Cristina: Was that part of individualism? Why is there teams instead of one against all or I guess, yeah, one against all. Does the team make you feel like that still, I guess, gives you that same feeling of like, it's me against everyone else?

Jack: Well, here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. The left is really where individualism comes in. The right, it's so. Oh God, it's so weird and convoluted. Right.

Cristina: Because the right sometimes is about individualism or. No.

Jack: Well, let me explain. The left has the whole everybody is everybody, but we are together as a thing, doing the thing. So, you know, the government should decide unanimous things for large groups of people. And you know, it's going to decide to affect our medical systems and it's going to choose to provide programs and these things that are big giant sweeps that kind of remove individualism, affect everybody as a whole, and it shafts the individuals who disagree. Yeah, it's like, f*** your s***. So they're anti individual in that instant. But also that's politically speaking, because sociologically they're like, I'm a person and I'm like a black trans Z and he's a transracial person. And this guy over here is like, you know, all these weird labels that make us different. Well, I'm gay, I'm lesbian, I'm bi, I'm straight. Well, I'm gender this, gender that, and well, I'm goth and I'm preppy and like, individualism. Yeah, but politically speaking, the government should affect all of us at the same time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you go to the right and it flips where the right is like, no, we stand together. We stand together as individuals to f*** individuality. We gotta stand together and make sure we don't get screwed by the government. But then the second anything happens, politically speaking, they're like, but my rights. My rights are being violated. Yeah, I should have the right to. It's like, wait, you guys. You guys are weird because where they are individualists, you are together. And where you are together, they are individualists.

Cristina: When it comes to abortion, it's the opposite, though. Where the Democrats are like, it's our. My individual.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: While the Republicans are like, no, we got to do this together of not having.

Jack: Yeah, we got to band together and force them to do things. It's weird. It's like there's no consistency.

Cristina: No, no, there's not.

Jack: There's totally a.

Cristina: It's random.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But once they decide the side that's the side they're Sticking to.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And the other side, of course, picks the opposite because that's just how the game goes.

Jack: That's f****** weird, right?

Cristina: Yes. It's a team sport.

Jack: It is a team sport, and it depends on which team you are. And you don't even need to have the belief. I actually had this conversation recently in which the problem with knowing the names of people. This is a conversation about philosophy. Right. And I was explaining why I don't like knowing philosopher names. The same reason I like. I don't know why somebody did something in chemistry. Like, I don't care why you came up with the thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm fascinated by the chemistry.

Cristina: You don't care how they grew up.

Jack: Yeah. I don't care about your story or whatever.

Cristina: F***.

Jack: In philosophy, the problem is, if you have a set of ideologies that comes from one individual, and you're familiar with the individual and you agree with the majority of what they say, you try to base your identity on everything they said because you're familiar with the individual.

Cristina: They'Re gonna agree with everything.

Jack: You're gonna try. And you're gonna try to justify everything based on. Because. Well, I agree with 75% of everything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The other 25%. Yeah, that too. I'm gonna figure out how it fits. But if you don't know the names or who, you don't know. Well, these seven ideas came from the same guy.

Cristina: Yeah. You just pick and choose what you truly believe.

Jack: Exactly. You just know the seven individual ideas.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You have no idea they came from the same guy. And you're like. Well, three of them make sense. The other four can kiss my a**. That doesn't make any sense. Now you grab. You pick and choose from everybody.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you build a cohesive framework for your personality. The philosophies that work for you, that is.

Cristina: That's the way to do it. Wow.

Jack: Yes. Versus, well, Descartes at this, this and that. And I know that's kind of crazy over there, but also, I kind of have. I have to. Even if you don't know you're doing that, your mind is doing that because you're relating to the guy and you want to relate to the most excruciating detail.

Cristina: Yeah. That's interesting. They should just take the good and separate the bad. Yeah.

Jack: Yes. But people don't do that.

Cristina: Like Freud. Lots of people don't like a lot of things Freud said, but I'm sure there's some good stuff there too. That's why people learn about him.

Jack: Yeah. A lot of what he discussed was psychology, not physiology or genetics. He had a lot of crap that he thought was coming from genetics. And like, biologically you want to do this? Yeah, it's like, not really, dude. Yeah, but there were a lot of psychology things that were accurate. Yeah, many, many, many. But the problem is. Well, I'm familiar with Freud and he proposed this in psychology, which turned out true. Which means that his proposals about genetics must be accurate.

Cristina: Which makes no sense.

Jack: Which makes no f****** sense.

Cristina: The idea of just taking what you like makes a. Like so much.

Jack: But in order to do that effectively, because your mind is going to try to guide you onto the whole team sport aspect of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You need to not be familiar with.

Cristina: The individual, but you could at least know their names.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Because if you know the person's name and you know all the others they came from.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because what would be the. Okay, I know Descartes was a philosopher, but I don't know what he offered, so who gives a s***?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Who is Descartes? Well, I know he said stuff.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it's only valuable if you know what he said. Otherwise who cares about his name?

Cristina: Okay, so just take the ideas.

Jack: Yeah. You should ignore the philosoph, the philosopher, and only know the philosophies. Because if you are familiar with the philosopher and you want to identify with.

Cristina: The philosopher, that's where it gets all muddy and stuff.

Jack: Muddy. Yes, that's exactly what happens with politics.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It doesn't need to make sense. They said Republican and you said you're Republican.

Cristina: So now you must relate in every Republican idea. Yes.

Jack: All the Republican ideas you must relate with. Now if I grabbed all the ideas from both sides. From both sides and didn't tell you who is supporting what at the moment. I told you, one candidate has some of them, the other candidate has some of them. Here are all the ideas. I need you to check off which ones you agree with.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you wrote them off. You'd be blown away by how many on the other side.

Cristina: That would be so interesting because it might be 50. 50, who knows? We have no idea because everyone always sticks to their team. What if we did it that way? I wonder how gray it would be. Very gray.

Jack: Could just. It's that experiment that happened on. On YouTube. Right. That they walked up to a bunch of Republicans, Trump supporters, specifically.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And they went up to them with Hitler quotes and said Trump said them. And they were like, yeah, I agree.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: And they were just. Because they think Trump Said it. They're just agreeing by default. Their mind as well. Trump said this. I agree. From this point, even if they don't know what's happening.

Cristina: Yeah, that's the state. Because that's their team leader.

Jack: Yes. But the same thing could be done for the left where they're like, well, these are all liberal ideologies and we want to know which ones of them you agree with. And if you're already identified as a liberal and they approach them with these totally Republican ideologies, you're like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, well, no, it was done.

Jack: Both of those are videos on YouTube where they're just proving that people are supporting their own biases. It's all confirmation bias.

Cristina: Yes. I feel like they've done that with religious quotes too.

Jack: Yes, they've totally done that with. Yeah, specifically Christianity where they've approached them with random quotes from other books and.

Cristina: Like, yeah, you like this one. And of course people are gonna like it and.

Jack: Yeah, because I think it's not from the Bible that they never f****** picked up once.

Cristina: Yeah, yep.

Jack: It's all. It's team sports. You're just gonna side with your team no matter what, even if it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: Cheer them on, whether they're winning or losing.

Jack: Fanatics versus players. The player knows the nuances. Yeah, they understand. Well, this a****** on my team is the reason we're f****** failing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're like, no, everybody on that team is better than everybody on that other team that I'm against. F*** that other team. But the people who are playing, you're the fanatic. You're like, my team over that team. But the people on the field are like, man, Bob is on our team. Bob sucks. He's the reason we always f****** up. But the f****** fans are like, well, Bob is part of the team, therefore, yeah, my team. Bob's a s*** because he's on my team.

Cristina: Politicians acting like, I guess, players.

Jack: Yes. They turn on each other because they know who's crooked, who's corrupt, who's the problem and who's not.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But the fans are gonna support those people no matter what until they've been removed from the team. And then like, no, that guy was a problem. Yeah, like now you think so?

Cristina: Cuz team going against one person, it doesn't matter why they're going against that person. You're probably, if you're on that, you're rooting for that team. You're like, yeah, okay, I guess he sucks.

Jack: Yeah, you flip, you flip on whoever. If the Other team members do.

Cristina: Yeah. What? It is like a sport.

Jack: It is a sport. It's 100% a sport. But we're taught it's a sport.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What is politics if not debate team? They give you a random topic that you're. You don't even necessarily need to support the topic.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You just have to argue in its favor. That is literally what happens in debate team. You get put on one of two sides and you're just gonna argue the point whether or not you agree with the point. They're not saying, what do you believe? Support why you believe it. They're saying, here's your topic. Learn to defend this topic, whether or not you agree, because you're on that team. That's the logic here. You're on that team when you're just.

Cristina: The other people on that team. You all have to still agree to that thing.

Jack: Yeah, we're taught to think that way.

Cristina: Yes. But is that happening in all the other Western countries? Are they all team players as well?

Jack: Interesting. I. Yeah, I think it's all left, right. I think that's really Western thing. It's democracy. Everything is left, right. There's barely any other f****** teams. Some countries rarely. But some countries have multiple different parties that can run. But on average, you got some sort of conservative versus liberal ideology going on. Conservative versus progressive.

Cristina: But in Western. No, Eastern culture. What would that be like? They have to have parties too, right? They probably have all the parties.

Jack: China doesn't. Let's just say dictatorship.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Does Russia.

Cristina: So is Russia. So is Russia. Now, Western, Eastern crap.

Jack: I don't know. Because eastern culture includes South Korea and they have democracy and you elect. So it's not just. You are Eastern, therefore.

Cristina: No. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: You are like in a dictatorship.

Cristina: No.

Jack: You're not communist just because you are Eastern.

Cristina: No, it's more complicated.

Jack: Yeah, but I don't really know because I'm sure. But then South Korea is way more together, you know, like, they might not agree with their leader, but they all stand by him. Yeah, that's very different. It's like, well, he's the guy we have right now. We just deal with him for the meantime over here. We're like, f****** get him out. F*** that guy. He sucks. We won't protest, right? It's like, wow, we're not united.

Cristina: We're not over there.

Jack: We don't agree with him. But, you know, he. Let's give him a chance. Let's figure it out. Next guy comes in, well, election time. We'll figure it out.

Cristina: It feels Like, I don't know, over here. It's a mess. It's kind of a mess right now. Yeah, everyone sees it as a mess.

Jack: When has it not? We had a civil war.

Cristina: We had a civil war. Yeah.

Jack: Like, when was this not a mess? Yeah, like, let's. Let's backtrack, right?

Cristina: It's always been a mess.

Jack: Yeah, it was. Biden isn't the mess we get. Let's go back to. Well, Trump is in the mess. Okay. Let's go back to Obama. No, Obama is in this. Okay.

Cristina: The first president.

Jack: Yeah. Because we go to Bush. Well, no, Bush wasn't. It's a Clinton. He's a good. No, it wasn't Reagan, was it? No, it wasn't. Like, who was it? Because everybody was.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The closest thing, the flawless we had was Teddy Roosevelt. And he was crazy controversial.

Cristina: Yes. He's the guy that shot that guy, right?

Jack: No, you're thinking about Nixon.

Cristina: Oh, Richard Nixon.

Jack: Was it Nixon? Somebody, I don't know. Somebody shot somebody. I know you're talking about, but yeah. No, it's kind of f***** like that.

Cristina: It is. It's all our fault though. We. We're on. What is this? Sacred Indian burial land.

Jack: It wasn't originally and I don't, to be fair, I don't think the. Were the Indians spread out across the entire country evenly.

Cristina: What if they were?

Jack: That's crazy.

Cristina: A lot of dead people.

Jack: Like, we don't know then. This isn't discussed. This isn't taught in school. We know, we came and like, we're loosely taught, you know, Christopher Columbus, he's a hero. He discovered. You didn't discover s***. There were people here. But he's a hero and he brought America. He's America. He's the reason America and whatever. Right. So we know, you know, some people died, some people died. But let's, let's really think about this really, really hard. Christopher Columbus entered through the east, right. And then even until the. What is it, early 1800s, when cowboys and s*** are still happening. Late 1700s, early 1800s, when the west is starting to be filled out, who were they fighting? The f****** Native Americans.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the Native Americans didn't just stretch from the east age all the way all the way to the west, it went all the way. So they covered every inch of everything all the way until the west, where the Wild west was at.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we still were murdering them that whole time. We didn't stop murdering them until there were no more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the question is, we don't get told the numbers. But what are the numbers?

Cristina: It's high. So high.

Jack: Were they in the millions, probably, or were they small tribes and we're just picking them off?

Cristina: I'm saying millions.

Jack: You say millions, right?

Cristina: Like we keep finding schools with dead children and those are in the hundreds.

Jack: But from when was that? How far back is that?

Cristina: 1800S, you think? I think so.

Jack: And the Wild west was what, late 1700s? Early 1800s, yeah. So then those schools are in the east, because in the west we weren't even building school. We're just. We're cowboys. They're killing everybody.

Cristina: Oh, they could have been in the east. They have been everywhere. Churches go everywhere. They don't care.

Jack: And then the other problem is, like, it's western culture, right? Because even Canada is guilty of this.

Cristina: Canada, yes. They. They were in. That was Canada, actually.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Oh, also, just when. When the westerns go east, think of like the natives in Australia. Whole f****** island just now we're extincting. These m************ belongs to us.

Cristina: That's crazy. Most islands. How did some islands survive? How is Hawaii people still alive?

Jack: What do you mean? We've colonized the s*** out of them.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're still Hawaiians.

Jack: Well, we sort of enslave them. We give them no option but to work at these jobs because all their prices went up because they're a state and the rich people usually vacation there, which means they can afford all the things. So it can afford to be really jacked up. So that forces the Hawaiians to have to work at the businesses that cater to the white people in the first place in order to be able to get the money that then allows them to go and pay their bills because their homes must be absorbently priced because the area is extremely expensive, because the white people go there to shop with their rich money on vacation. So it's indirect slavery. It's systematic racism.

Cristina: Then if they can't afford there, then how many Literally what happened still in Hawaii?

Jack: Yeah, exactly. That's totally what's happening. A bunch of Hawaiians cannot afford what's happening. It's actually. That was in the news like a month ago, what they were talking about, how this is becoming such a ridiculous problem. People can't afford anything.

Cristina: It's crazy. Where are they going to go? California, I guess. No, no one can live there either.

Jack: California is too expensive.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: On the flip side, we're also like on. We're also the problem people. Here's the problem people. Rich people left California because fires, not because prices. Poor people left California because prices.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But rich people are like, I'm not gonna f****** suffocate in a cloud of fire. And we're in a similar situation over here where we're like poor people leave because the prices keep going up.

Cristina: Yes. Prices are insane.

Jack: The rest of us are just here like, why are they leaving?

Cristina: Yeah. But then soon water will drown us out.

Jack: Yeah. And then we're all going to get the f*** out of here because the water the same way all the rich people left California because of the fires.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's really what's happening. And eventually we'll go to the center.

Cristina: Where there's nothing but tornadoes and earthquakes.

Jack: Yeah, but tornadoes and earthquakes. I guess the only safe spot. Right. Like what does Texas deal with? I don't know.

Cristina: They had a crazy snowstorm.

Jack: That doesn't happen.

Cristina: That doesn't normally happen. But things are changing.

Jack: There's no such thing as climate change.

Cristina: There's no such thing.

Jack: Yeah. That's a new thing that's become a meme at this point. Just people saying there's no such thing as climate. I've seen so many.

Cristina: Really.

Jack: Yeah, there's people. There's no such thing as climate change.

Cristina: What? What?

Jack: Yeah, but like ironically saying, yeah, yeah. Like they're watching again. I was telling you about this the other day. The one about Anakin talking to Padme, looking to. Just thinking about the future and Padme sees everybody drowning and. No, it's not even. Yeah, yeah. So something like that. It's the one where. Is that her name, Padme? I'm pretty sure it is. And she looks at Anakin and she's like, there's no global warming, there's no a climate change in the future. Right. And then she's like, right, that one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I mean so it's like in the first shot, there's no climate change in the future. And he's looking at her and she says, right. And then there's a shot of the future and everybody's just drowning. And then his face is still the same neutral. And now her face is all serious. Is like, right, Yep, yep.

Cristina: That's life right now.

Jack: I've seen a lot of that. Yeah. People at this point is like, how can you still deny climate change at this point?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Between. In the Tri State area, there have been seven tornadoes in a two month period.

Cristina: When has there ever been tornadoes?

Jack: When has there ever been tornadoes in the Tri State area? There have been seven actually. That's wrong. There were seven in one during just the Ida Storm.

Cristina: Really? I thought that was the total.

Jack: No, because there were four beforehand. Yeah, that's 11 tornadoes.

Cristina: Oh, crap.

Jack: In the tri state area in two months, seven of which happen on a.

Cristina: Two day period versus the zero of forever.

Jack: Yes. First is the zero of every other moment.

Cristina: Yes, that's where we are. Yeah. What we gotta get out of here.

Jack: The zero of always.

Cristina: Everyone's gotta start making bunkers.

Jack: Yeah, we're kind of getting there on the flip side as it gets, man. The problem is people don't understand what climate change is really because they just like, oh, it's getting hot. Well, that's wrong too. It's getting colder in some areas that. Well, there's a reason why that's happening. Like the equator isn't warming up, it's getting cooler. Why is the equator getting cooler? Well, it's because what's happening is the poles are shifting forcefully. Magnetism relies on the core heat of the planet and the core heat of the planet is being shifted externally inward. So we're f****** up the pole system.

Cristina: How are we doing that?

Jack: Well, that's what pollution is doing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And so what's going to happen is we're going to have a reversal, but it takes a long time. Except we're putting that b**** on fast forward.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And instead of gradually the change flipping and we don't even notice, it happens because there's a usual like ice age that comes every once in a blue and like really warm periods that comes once in a blue every couple of billion years or million years, whatever.

Cristina: But we fast forward.

Jack: Yeah, we got that s***. Fast forward hard. And so it's starting to flip as we're like in one lifetime. We're seeing it happen rather than millions and millions and millions of years. We're seeing it happen in like the same 10 year period.

Cristina: That's crazy. The world's just gonna be that world. You remember that movie with. Oh man, I forgot the name of the actor. No, it was a space movie where his daughter was in space, but he didn't know he was communicating with her because he was imaginating that a little girl was with him. The whole world was covered in snow and radiation. Do you remember that?

Jack: No, no.

Cristina: Oh crap. I can't remember the name of anything. I think Mel Gibson, was he the actor. Crap.

Jack: Just tell me the plot of the movie.

Cristina: Well, he was with a little girl because everyone just left out of earth except these two. There was a crew of astronauts who went to a planet to look for a good place.

Jack: Yes, I Remember? I don't know if it was Mel Gibson. I do remember the movie you were talking about, though. And he stood behind, like, it might have been Mel Gibson, actually.

Cristina: He stood up behind because he's dying, so there's no point of leaving. I think that's why.

Jack: No, he. There was something. There was some system he. That somebody needed to stay behind to work on to make sure that they can escape or whatever. He. There was like, the rocket's gonna blow up or something. We need somebody to stay behind it, like, save us or whatever. There's something on Earth, a station or something he needed to get to to like press a button or something. And he was taking the little girl to get there. But the reason he was okay for staying behind is because he was dying. Yeah, but he's still like, I can do it. I'm gonna die anyways.

Cristina: Yeah, but that wasn't because the people told him to stay there, because he.

Jack: He stayed because he was dying.

Cristina: Yeah, he said he was dying. And then he got contact from people from coming to Earth, and he's trying to get them to go away. If they land, they die.

Jack: D***. I don't remember this. Yes. I don't remember the name of the movie, but I know exactly because the movie began and he was already there and they had already left.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We begin by him getting a weird message.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's like, oh, I have to get there before they are too close to turn around. Yes, that's what it was.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I spoiled the thing of. It was his daughter the whole time. But whatever. It's a great movie, but the Earth, that's the important part.

Jack: Daughter was the one coming into the planet.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, she was pregnant, man.

Jack: Was it Mel Gibson?

Cristina: I feel like it was.

Jack: I don't remember the name of this movie. If somebody knows, leave it in the comments below. You remember Ray William Johnson? Where does it. It depends.

Cristina: In Apple it's below.

Jack: In Apple it's below. But where is it on top?

Cristina: I don't know. I just hope there's a place that.

Jack: I'm sure there's a place that it's on top and it's like, probably like it doesn't expand from the top, but there's a button on top where you click and it takes you to a comment section and then there you can drop a comment, but it was technically on top of the episode before you entered the menu that then allowed you in the first place to drop the comments. That's technically over above.

Cristina: And if it was YouTube live video.

Jack: It would be on the side as well as now. We've always been on Facebook, and you can go listen to the show on Facebook, but the new edition is the f******. Like, if you're on the Facebook app, you can actually listen to the show directly streamed through Facebook now. We don't even have to, like, upload it separately onto Facebook now it just goes live on Facebook immediately. I'm blown away by that.

Cristina: And do you know where the comments are there?

Jack: I don't know. But when you have a Facebook alive, it's also on the side like it is on YouTube.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: But the whole point was how the Earth was at that moment. That's our Earth. That's where we're heading.

Jack: Yeah. Switching the poles. And here's the thing. My question is. Right. My question is, do we know what happened on Earth in that.

Cristina: In that movie?

Jack: In that movie?

Cristina: No, not really.

Jack: Are we. Is it arguable that while this guy's experiencing this and trying to stop those people from entering somewhere else in the same country, there's a man walking with his son and everybody else has died or left the planet and nothing but savages are talking about the other? Yeah. Can you imagine?

Cristina: It's the same. You know what? I thought the whole world was covered in snow, but maybe it's just where he's at. So maybe that's possible.

Jack: What, in the road?

Cristina: No, in the movie.

Jack: Well, here's the thing. We think in the road, it's ash.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, it could be, but also everything is just white. So it could also be snow. It could be a combination of ash and snow.

Cristina: Yes. It's happening in the same time.

Jack: This could be set in the same universe.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Except for whatever reason in that universe, everybody's paired with a child.

Cristina: Well, he's. One of them is an imaginary child.

Jack: Yes. Which is to tell me that somewhere in that same universe, there's a zombie infection where a man named Joel is escorting a girl named Ellie.

Cristina: And in that place, it's never snowing.

Jack: And in that place it's never. No, they go through snow. There's a whole snow section in that game.

Cristina: But there's no global warming thing going on. It's just zombies.

Jack: Interesting. If it ain't. I mean, it's not happening here too, though. We're the zombies, though.

Cristina: Yeah, we're the zombies.

Jack: We're the zombies. It's a little of everything we're out there just wasn't. Man, that's f*****. Right? We're over here thinking, like Zombies are gonna take over at some point. No f****** random other s*** robots are gonna turn on us and crap. We got f****** Elon Musk just starting. F****** Skynet's already real.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's just drones falling out of sky, murdering people. Thank you, Obama. But we got Elon Musk just innovating the tech that's eventually gonna be stolen by the government anyways and put in that same f****** drone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Eventually that robot's gonna be like, f****** kill humans. Because humans are the problem. And then we got Terminator, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're thinking like the Terminator is gonna kill us, but it's also. No, climate change is gonna kill us, but also 2020, there were zombies and it was us and we were just breaking into buildings and f****** fighting people on the street and setting s*** on fire. Yeah, we were the zombie apocalypse.

Cristina: Yes, we are. Wow. We had everything happening.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: This is the apocalypse.

Jack: Yeah. I saw a meme that was like, how crazy is it that it's 2021, which is 2020 part two, and you're still not done processing 2019.

Cristina: 2019.

Jack: Yeah. Everybody's still like, well, that was a good moment. And then what was it? The meme is, There's January of 2020, February of 2020, then March, then a bunch of black boxes, just emptiness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then today.

Cristina: Oh, like it's just like.

Jack: That's just one blur. That's one moment that looks the same from every point of view of a disaster.

Cristina: Pretty much, yeah.

Jack: It's just a mess. And it's still going.

Cristina: And it's still going. Yeah. And they. I think I saw recently that Kobe's never going to go away.

Jack: Yeah, it's never going to go away. It's the flu.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's the cold. It was weird though, because it said like scientists said that, but it was a poll. So they like polled became scientists. Yes. Here's the thing.

Jack: Because of, because of the short turnaround period of the immune system that we have for this thing, it's not going away.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Two months before you can get infected again. You're not gonna get a booster shot.

Cristina: Every two months anyway. Yeah, it's just delta further currently, but we'll find something else.

Jack: D***. It's the end of the world, isn't it? See, like we're watching a slow burn.

Cristina: But it's slow burn.

Jack: It's the end. Give or take 10 years, it's over.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's what's happening. It's not like, well, meteor hit, everybody died.

Cristina: No, it's like there's constantly a meteor about to hit, though. I feel like that's always happening.

Jack: No, people, it's. No, there's always a meteor in the area. And people get exaggerated. They're like, is this the one that's gonna hit? The problem is sensationalist news.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is what happened with COVID And everybody panicked. But on the flip side, s*** kind of keeps turning up lately. But, like, I've still never met a person who had the virus. And like, anything bad happened. Actually, I've never met somebody who had the virus. I a hundred percent have had no interaction with this virus. And I've stopped hiding from society. I'm just outside hanging out. Never in my f****** life met somebody with it. It's kind of weird. Dude is still kind of sketchy. And I know place are like, well, they had. And this and that. It's like, cool. I'm sure you believe that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, maybe something happened. But like, I've never met anybody with it. I've never met anybody who met anybody with it. I don't know of anybody who knows personally anybody who had something bad happen because of it. Everybody's fine. Always. Except I turn on the news and it's like millions are dying.

Cristina: Yes. Well, I know a few people who had it and they just lost their sense of taste or whatever the common.

Jack: Briefly. Yeah, like, briefly. Yeah, for like a. For like a moment.

Cristina: Hey, they felt really sick.

Jack: What's the difference between that and the flu?

Cristina: Yeah, the flu.

Jack: For a couple of days. Cut over it.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. That's their story. So.

Jack: Yeah, I had the flu. Had the flu, man. What the f***? So weird. Where the mass graves? I live in one of the most populated places on the planet. Where are the mass graves? There's nothing more densely populated than where I am. I don't. I've never in my life met a person with the f******. How.

Cristina: I don't know. They had trucks. Where did those trucks go?

Jack: The trucks were on the news. I live next to one of the. The largest hospitals. Where the f*** were the trucks?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: The same hospital that allegedly had the trucks. You go there and there's no trucks. Why is the news telling me that there's trucks? There's a s*** ton of trucks. And then I go there the day that they said there's a ton of trucks because I got a morbid interest in seeing it. And then there's nothing. Nothing at all. And every day they tell me I could go, and there's nothing. You go into the Hospital. Nobody. Just normal flow of patience. Where the f*** is any of it on tv? On tv?

Cristina: Besides that? I don't know.

Jack: Is TV showing us an alternate universe?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or is it heavily sensational and we're eating it like it's reality?

Cristina: I like the first one, but I'm sure the second one.

Jack: The second one's probably reality. Like, I'm sure there is a virus. I'm sure there's a virus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's nowhere near as bad as people are saying 1%. And out of that 1% that even has symptoms, 96% already had health conditions, most of which were poor diets.

Cristina: What the f*** you're talking about? Like, that's the people that caught it or died.

Jack: People who died. People who had bad reactions. 1% of everybody who touched the virus, 1% had bad reactions. And out of that 1%, 96% had bad medical conditions already or were obese. The majority were obese.

Cristina: Okay then, man. Then I think we'll be fine.

Jack: This is what blows my mind. But then the flip side is, what is. Is it because we tune into the news? Is that the goal? We're so scared. We're gonna keep tuning in to keep catching up. And then they keep getting paid because we keep tuning in. Because they're always making it sound crazy. And they're our source.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But then it creates a division because these guys said this, and this guy said, well, this is my team.

Cristina: So the teams are happening with this too. There's so many team events with the COVID Yeah. First it was a mass and it was the vaccine.

Jack: Life has become a spectator sport. Tranquility Hotel by the Arctic Monkeys make sure to catch up on that album. That is a flawlessly perfect album. Life became a spectator sport. That is reality.

Cristina: That is reality.

Jack: We're hiding in our homes, watching TV to find out what's happening directly outside our door.

Cristina: Yes. Seeing all the deaths that are happening next door.

Jack: Yeah. And then you go outside and it's like, well, it ain't happening out here. Let me go inside to watch it happen. Because, you know, they're telling me it's outside my door. I don't see it. But, like, if I go inside, I see it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm gonna watch it from inside them.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Well, that's weird, right?

Cristina: That is weird.

Jack: So f****** strange.

Cristina: There's something horribly wrong there.

Jack: But, yeah, this. Like, that's the only f****** horribly wrong thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, s***'s f*****. There's so much wrong in general.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I don't even know, man. What do we do? What do we do?

Cristina: Turn off the tv.

Jack: Turn off the tv. Go the f*** outside.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just. Just go outside. Go explore the outside world, people. That's a real place.

Cristina: The outside tv. When you're outside. Yeah, don't talk about that with you.

Jack: Don't touch your phone. I. I do something really good. I don't touch my phone. I'm outside. If you see that your Instagram photos or your Facebook photos took place outside, not when you're home bored, doing nothing. Fine, whatever. But if when you're outside, you're not outside, but rather you just outside, but inside your phone.

Cristina: Because you're taking those pictures.

Jack: Because you're taking those pictures. If you see that your pictures took place outside, maybe leave your phone when you go outside. Go outside without your phone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When you don't have your phone and you're outside, you're suddenly gonna realize there's f****** nothing going on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's nothing happening. You just walk. You can just walk somewhere and be like, oh, oh, wow.

Cristina: That's fine.

Jack: I didn't get murdered. The f******. I think it radiated to death.

Cristina: Radiated today?

Jack: Yeah, whatever.

Cristina: F***.

Jack: They think climate change is happening or what a f***.

Cristina: Just.

Jack: I think that's a virus and die.

Cristina: The cause of global roaming. Warming.

Jack: Global roar. Roaming.

Cristina: 5G.

Jack: Right, 5G.

Cristina: So that's the thing.

Jack: I mean, your phone roams or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You leave the country, turn on your roaming, your global roaming, your phone is.

Cristina: Causing the environment to get destroyed.

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: Yeah. So let. Let it go.

Jack: Yeah. Leave your phone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: No, really. Really, it really is. Everybody gets their news through the phone. Everybody panics. Your phone is destroying the world.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Cell phones have destroyed the world. It's not the Internet. If you were trapped at home on the Internet, you go outside, you can't bring.

Cristina: You're not bringing that.

Jack: You can't bring it. So now you're outside and you're gonna go riot or whatever. Right. And then you just end up talking to the person instead of confirming more of your crazy s*** by walking around on your phone.

Cristina: Mm, no.

Jack: Now you just engage with the person outside. You're like, oh, I guess the inside was wrong about the outside.

Cristina: But if you're on your phone, you're gonna be saying whatever it says on your phone to say.

Jack: Yeah, you'd be walking outside on your phone. Right. Looking at the COVID numbers. Oh, it's everywhere. And you just see everybody is healthy and walking around, and you're like, no, it's everywhere. Everybody's dying while you're surrounded by people who aren't dying. Oh, no. It's everywhere. Oh, my God, it's so scary. I'm putting my mask on and everybody's just fine walking around you. You're just blocking out the reality that's happening around you. I'm not saying there's no virus. I'm saying even the scientists can tell you that it is ridiculous. It is 1%, and out of that 1%, 96% are already f*****. Yes, there's climate change, of course. It was always gonna happen anyways. We're just accelerating the rate. Yes, that's our fault and yes, that's causing crazy f****** storms.

Cristina: Ridiculous.

Jack: Yes, but also, the world hasn't ended. Oh, my God. I'm not gonna. No, we're just gonna move to different parts of the f****** planet. The world isn't ending. You're just bit because you're. What you're used to is changing.

Cristina: Yeah, the f***. Things are gonna be built differently. I guess that's.

Jack: Yeah, that's pretty much it. We migrate. It happens.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How did humanity make it through so many different ice ages? We just f****** migrate, man. We move where we are. That's fine.

Cristina: That's fine.

Jack: Anyways, everything is fake news is the point.

Cristina: Yes, that's the point.

Jack: Yeah, I guess.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Yes, everything is fake news. Everybody plays teams or whatever. Yeah, I guess. Anyways, that's. I guess that's the moral of the story. Everybody plays teams. We're all crazy. We don't know what we're talking about. All eastern countries are paranoid.

Cristina: Ending and not ending.

Jack: Yeah, if you're on the Internet, it's ending. Yes, but if you guys like the conversation, this conversation, you want other conversations like this, you can find them all pretty much anywhere. Yeah, but primarily the official website. Great thoughts.info or on Apple podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: You can also find us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Ustconvopod.

Jack: Yes, and remember to rate, review and also subscribe to the show everywhere. Even if you only listen in one place, go and subscribe in all the others. But no, really leave us reviews as well. That's really important. We like that.

Cristina: We like that.

Jack: Leave us reviews. Leave us rates, however many stars you think we deserve.

Cristina: And tell people about this show. Share it with everyone.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is the most important thing that has ever existed. Don't tell people that we are on a team. Tell people. Actually, no, do the opposite. Tell people we're specifically on their team. This is A show. If you're talking to a conservative, this is a show about Republicans talking Wokeness.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you're talking to some sort of snowflake, you tell them, hey, this is a show about people who are sensitive and caring about individuals and your rights to your body.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then, boom. That's how you do it.

Cristina: And help us.

Jack: Also, you can find me specifically on the stereo app having conversations. And again, the show on Facebook apparently is. No, it's like you can stream it on Facebook. It's no longer just uploaded to Facebook. It's like going directly from Apple Pod. I don't even know how the f*** it just happened one day.

Cristina: That's awesome.

Jack: Yeah. So that's happening. It's on Facebook. You can get all the episodes on Facebook. Before, we couldn't even put the full episodes of guests because Facebook had a limit.

Cristina: So guests are there now.

Jack: Guests are there now. Everything is up there. Now you can hear all the on Facebook.

Cristina: Cool. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Because she danced and then she asked him to show she. What did she say? Kick some fly s***. What does that mean? I guess say something impressive.

Jack: Kick some. Oh, no. Rap.

Cristina: Yeah. And then he said that he has wings on his b***. And then he showed her his d***.

Jack: Well, no, he told her.

Cristina: She. She did not say the.

Jack: Hey, stick is.

Cristina: So she danced first. She did not show him her v*****. And then say, rap for me.

Jack: Yeah, I think they were f******. And her dirty talk was like. Instead of dirty talking to me, tell him like, rap at me. That's what you're good at. Which is the point of the verse in the first place. He's saying his words are so good that during sex, what they want isn't for him to be like, you like that. No, they're like, rap at. That's the point of this whole verse is to say his bars are so good.

Cristina: Then it sounds like they had sex afterwards. I feel like I told.

Jack: I talked to your mother. She told me she loved me because she knows he's Eminem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All she want to do is hold me and hug me. Wants nobody but me. She showed me the Dougie. Like, she's trying. She's putting out. She's like, let's. And while they're. She says, kick some fly. To which he says, I got wings on my a** and my d*** is a cockpit. They're having sex and she wants the dirty talk to be his rap. That's it. That's what the verse means. There's nothing to debate there. That's what the verse means. He didn't. How weird is it that she just danced for him when he's who she's trying to impress? Not with. Not even that. She's not trying to impress him. No. She's letting him know, I'm in love with you. You're Eminem, the rap God. And while they're f******, she's like, rap for me. That's what the verse is. Okay, I don't think she danced. I think Dougie in this context is forger. Verger. Verger.

Cristina: Mm. You don't agree because from the urban dictionary just talked about the dance.

Jack: F*** Urban Dictionary. Also, it did say one of the entries was that it is a reference for sex.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I think in this. In this verse, Dougie is her Cooter. Her Verger.

Cristina: That's just an awful name for it.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Although there's a bunch of awful names already.

Jack: Like, Cooter is pretty bad. I think Cooter is way worse than Dougie. That's why I keep saying Cooter. I'd rather say v*****, but it's so PC.

Cristina: V*****. Species.

Jack: Yeah. I'd rather say cooter. Hooter or p**** or c***.

Cristina: Durgie. I don't like Dougie.

Jack: Fergie.

Cristina: Fergie. Fergie. You have a Fergie?

Jack: My Fergie.

Cristina: We should all name it Fergie.

Jack: She showed me her Fergie and told me to spit some fire.

Cristina: Fergie.

Jack: All right.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 139: Electricity Apocalypse

What happens if the world’s electrical equipment stopped working? How long before society broke down? How what would be the best plan of action to survive? The duo unpacks how to survive in an increasingly hostile world after the power grids go down.

Rambling 139: Electricity Apocalypse

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Wireless Headphones
  • Technology Co-Dependency
  • Dog Eat Dog World
  • Slow Societal Collapse
  • Apocalyptic Play by Play
  • Cannibalism
  • Looting
  • Global Food Supply Breakdown
  • Survival Supplies
  • Crop Growing
  • River Settlement

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+Transcripts

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. Yes, it is. So go out into the wild, into the woods as usual. Or if you're in a desert, I guess that makes sense, too. Anywhere. Anywhere is good.

Cristina: Find some outside.

Jack: Yeah, the outside world.

Cristina: Why does it have to be outside?

Jack: Fair enough. Break into somebody's house.

Cristina: That sounds easier.

Jack: Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming people in the wilderness were already listening to our show instead of people just chilling at home, but I guess there's a pandemic going on. Everyone's life, everyone's inside. You could just break into somebody's house and be like, you guys are listening to a fun, exciting podcast. Fun for the whole family.

Cristina: I always imagine them riding on a train and then getting the person on some random person on the train to listen to it. Because people like to listen to podcasts while traveling.

Jack: Yeah, could be they just pull out the headphones. They're like, what the f***, dude? Yeah, it's like, I got something better.

Cristina: Better than whatever the person's doing.

Jack: Yeah. And then they share headphones with a stranger.

Cristina: How does that work?

Jack: When you stand next to each other and you share headphones.

Cristina: Mm. Like the headphone is just in between the ears. I guess I'm thinking of these headphones. Like, how would it work?

Jack: No, no, no. Like the little earbud things that you put in.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then one takes one, one takes the other. Or now they use the wireless ones anyway.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you could just hand it to them. And they don't have to be all close and personal, but the emotion, the love and care of being that close together dissolves with. Because it used to be way more intimate and romantic to listen to something with somebody else. Because you had to be shoulder to shoulder listening to things. Now you can just give them the headphones and walk away. And it's not. It's intimacy's dying, man.

Cristina: With strangers.

Jack: Yeah. Or just all around intimacy in general. But I mean, that's a. That's a course of technology, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Technology makes us very detached and impersonal.

Cristina: We're Becoming robots.

Jack: Sort of. Kind of. I mean, that's always been the case. We're always getting more mechanic and robotic and computerized.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Our phones are the grand masters of that. They hold everything.

Cristina: If we didn't have phones though, I feel like it'd still be the same. We do something else. We use our laptops.

Jack: Yeah, but we weren't as attached to our laptops as we are to our phones. No, the phone has made it too convenient, the laptop. Well, nobody wants to carry this big s*** around. People use it for practical reasons. Now you just use your phone for f****** anything all the time, whatever. And then the other problem is apps for whatever the f*** you ever need.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If you had a thought, there's an app for it.

Cristina: Mm. I'm not that creative. I don't have enough apps anymore. Apps? No, I have apps. My phone sucks. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But is there any creative apps you found that you didn't think exist would have existed?

Jack: Not anything per se, but I know that there's an app for everything, usually consuming a person's life. If you are going to jog, get an app on your phone. You can track your progress while you're outside jogging.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're going to eat. Get a food schedule so you know how many calories you're consuming, how many meals you've had.

Cristina: There's app for studying, so you don't look at your phone, so it records, but it has to be on, I guess. So you're still using. Using the phone.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: To not use the phone.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's. It's, it's ridiculous. Yeah, your phone holds your phone number so you don't have to remember them anymore.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And Google's on your phone. You don't have to learn anything.

Cristina: Because of Google.

Jack: Because of Google, you don't have to learn anything. They just put out an app for like solving kids math problems or some as powered by Google.

Cristina: And it's like, why are you advertising that Google? I mean, I think it's from Google though.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the other problem is like, are they wrong though? Because like, oh, you know, you got to learn how to do this in your head because you're not gonna have a calculator everywhere you go.

Cristina: My Google's like, I'll be your calculator everywhere you go.

Jack: Yeah, I'll be your calculator everywhere you go. Teachers lie, dude. Well, they didn't know. They didn't know. They're like, you never, you're not gonna have a calculator everywhere you go. It's like, no, no. We're gonna have the planets total 100% knowledge. All of it, all the time in my pocket.

Cristina: Yes. So how important is math now? What do teachers say?

Jack: It's the same idea as cursive writing. Who gives a s***?

Cristina: Yeah, that's more like a hobby thing now.

Jack: Like who gives a crap about math anymore? Yeah, your phone does. All of it.

Cristina: Yeah. So what is math class like if you don't need to do any of it?

Jack: I don't need to like show your work. It's like, why, what's it, what? Teachers send us messages? What is your new bullshit excuse for why they need to show the work? What if the power goes out? Then math doesn't matter anymore. Yes, while we have power, your phone will solve it.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: When the power is out, everybody's gonna go on a dog eat dog murdering spree. And survivors don't need math. They're already the strongest. They're just gonna take the thing. They're not gonna f****** barter or exchange anything.

Cristina: How do you know? Why would it go straight to doggy dog?

Jack: It would go, from today we have power. Five minutes from now, all the power of the earth dies.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: 15 minutes from then. There are raiders outside in full Raider uniforms.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Pillaging and stealing everything.

Cristina: How do they even know? Like was there announcement that they know that the power is not going to come back on?

Jack: Nobody's going to wait that long. They're just like, well, I'm going to go to the next town where the power is at. And then they get there and there's no power. Like, well, I'm going two towns over. I'm going to go to the f****** power plant. Because they need to have power. They're like, oh, power plant is done too.

Cristina: And that's when they decide to raid everything.

Jack: It'd be so good. People at the power plant are going to like f****** start screaming it off rooftops.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it's just going to create a chain, like a wave of f****** everybody being aware that there's no power.

Cristina: It'S just in that area. Or this is the world.

Jack: Well, it would happen like this. No, it's everywhere. Because in theory we assume that there, there are people at the, the power plants. They're like, oh my God, the power's gone. It's gone forever. And we know because we work at a power plant.

Cristina: Ah. And then once that's all machines.

Jack: Exactly. Like numbers told us or something. And then they run and they jump in a car that's totally 100% gas powered and has no electricity in it. And then they drive straight into city. Oh, the power's gone. We're all gonna die. And then everybody. Oh my God, the guy I know who works at the power showed up in his totally mechanical car.

Cristina: Everyone gonna get. Because how long will it take for everyone to have that information? Since they're not using the computer, they can't find it online.

Jack: That's actually interesting.

Cristina: Now you have to hear it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone. Like how long does it take you to actually find out that?

Jack: A lot of people would just assume it's coming back and they would just assume it's in their area only.

Cristina: Yeah. I wonder how long would pass by when you're like, this isn't normal.

Jack: Yeah. Like this is. I mean obviously the power goes out and you're like, well, something's happening at the power plant for day one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They like three, you start kind of like, s***'s weird. And you've already seen. Some people are already acting out just cuz they don't know.

Cristina: But there's some people who do know.

Jack: Some people do know. And we were assuming like reality. Right. Totally real. Most people don't know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And at the beginning, day one, everybody's fine. Some people are noy. They're outside. There's more people outside. There's nothing to do inside right now. There's more people outside and they're just, you know, being stupid. Some people fight each other, whatever, just because. Nothing better doing. We're all out here at the same time. Day two, there's some people questioning. It's like, what the f*** is going on? Shouldn't this be up by now? Day three is like there was no storm. You're trying to figure out what the f***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And my phone is dead too. I didn't even use my phone. Why isn't that working?

Cristina: And so if someone did tell them, they probably don't trust that information right away.

Jack: Exactly. But day three to day four, you have people who are now starting to get desperate because they, they're having withdrawal symptoms from the Internet. There's a lot of people who would be having withdrawals from the Internet. A lot of people stressing out. Yeah, they're gonna be outside freaking. Not just Internet withdrawal, but TV withdrawal, video game withdrawal. Yeah, A lot of people who need electricity. They need electricity. Are gonna be outside kind of freaking out. You don't even need to know that. It's not coming back yet. Or ever. You don't know. You're still. It'll come back eventually, but some people are just gonna be starting to go off the rails no matter what.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They don't even know. They're just like, no. F***, this sucks. It's crazy s***. Fights are gonna get more intense every day eventually. Well, there's no cars. Cars that require electricity are just not gonna work anymore.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I don't know why the power stopped, but those cars are not moving, so what the f***?

Cristina: So then what do they do? Do they starve to death? I guess not.

Jack: No. Because people are gonna. That's when the violence starts.

Cristina: Oh, for the food.

Jack: Yeah. Because food isn't arriving back at the supermarkets. There's no truck delivering anything.

Jack: That truck is also just stationary somewhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So now people already bought all they could. They, you know, they adapted. For the first few. Couple of days, people shopped at the supermarket, but now the supermarkets run dry.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No new deliveries.

Cristina: And people who didn't do food shopping because they thought this was just normal, probably ate like normal.

Jack: Yes. And they're starting to get desperate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Before long, a weekend. Oh. That's when s*** starts hitting the fan. M************ start going outside and just like. Well, we gotta f******. We gotta survive. We haven't heard anything from the government because we can't.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We haven't heard anything from anybody. Is f****** rumors out here. The power's never coming back. What's coming back tomorrow. And we've heard it's coming back tomorrow. Every f****** day. We heard it's never coming back. Every f****** day. And people are out there just robbing m************ already. What am I gonna do? I'm just gonna sit here and starve to death? Somebody has food. That supermarket had food when it began. Somebody has food.

Cristina: So you just go robbing every place.

Jack: You can start getting hostile. Survival.

Cristina: Yeah. But you go into every house or something. But then you end up getting hurt probably too. Not you.

Jack: Desperation will send somebody mad. When you start running out of food and start to get hungry, you stop giving a f***.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: You stop giving a f***, and people will start killing each other. It's gonna happen pretty quickly. Under two weeks. Under two weeks without electricity in any form. Everything is destabilized.

Cristina: Whoa. What?

Jack: Yeah, I think under two weeks.

Cristina: How many people you think are gonna die at that time?

Jack: Holy f***. A lot.

Cristina: A lot?

Jack: A lot. In the millions, easily.

Cristina: From just murder or suicide?

Jack: Both.

Cristina: Both. Okay. In the millions.

Jack: In the millions. And I'M not talking like 1 million people two weeks in. No, I'm talking like. Like, what are the Japanese gonna do? What is the f****** Chinese gonna do with no electricity? Oh, bro, there's so many people there, they're just gonna murder each other. Us, oh, we're so spoiled. We need electricity. The west, all the Western countries. Holy f***.

Cristina: How long do you think it takes for someone to eat people?

Jack: When you stop finding food, that's gonna. Cannibalism is real. Within a month. Within a month.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You ran out of food. You stopped keeping track of when was the last time you ate. And you're just thinking you're gonna starve every day.

Cristina: Yeah. You gotta find a house with a garden.

Jack: Yeah. Growing your own food is the only option, but then you totally risk. At risk.

Cristina: At risk.

Jack: Yeah, you're at risk. You can't let anybody know you're growing food.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anybody enters your yard, you gotta kill them. You can't have them leave and talk about your garden.

Cristina: You kill them and eat them.

Jack: Yeah. You got food. Anybody goes into your garden, Food. Immediately.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You cannot have anybody tell anyone else that you have a garden that you're growing food in.

Cristina: How do you get away with that? I don't know.

Jack: The best option would be a rooftop garden on the highest building so nobody sees you from any other building.

Cristina: Yeah. So you have to already be on.

Jack: A building, you have to already live in a building. And you already have to have the top garden set up to grow plants. And then you could do that effectively.

Cristina: Do you have to live up there too?

Jack: You have to live up there. You could have the last floor saved for yourself. You had no reason to go down because you have food up there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And assuming you can set up a cauldron pretty easily, you could collect water as well. Ooh, rainwater.

Cristina: Rainwater. Yes. Is rainwater also the thing that turns people into werewolves? Is that one of the things I don't remember.

Jack: I have an idea.

Cristina: So we gotta be careful, but I.

Jack: Know a month in, a month in. Cannibal. Cannibalism is real.

Cristina: That is so crazy fast. It's not fast, but it's gonna feel like forever. Yeah, I guess, if you're starving, man.

Jack: Isn't that crazy? We have no other chains of delivering food.

Cristina: No other chain.

Jack: We've turned everything into something that relies on electricity. Yeah, all of it. Everything shows up in trucks. They have a computer that allows that truck to run everything.

Cristina: Every vehicle?

Jack: Every vehicle.

Cristina: We have carts. We can use that.

Jack: Carts?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Like the shopping carts.

Jack: What are we gonna do? Cross the country in a shopping cart?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's crazy.

Cristina: Tile all the carts together, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: And who's pulling in how?

Cristina: I don't know. I'm assuming a group of people are going to rob some place that has all this food and stuff.

Jack: I'm so confused.

Cristina: Like, where did the shopping. The stores get their products from?

Jack: Okay. Right. But we get. What are we gonna do with it? We just have shopping carts. We're not delivering it anywhere. We're just hoarding the food. People are eating each other no matter what. See Apocalypse. Nobody's f****** going out generously giving out the food that they've taken. No, that's it.

Cristina: That's why it's a group of people doing it, so that they can keep it for themselves.

Jack: Yeah. So there's no food delivery, no supply chain anymore. Supply chain is gone.

Cristina: Eventually there would be one, I would guess, if it's like the Walking Dead, where eventually a city happened.

Jack: I mean, maybe, but we have to rely on people being honest and, you know, wanting to f****** work together. To work together and, like, give some of their stuff to somebody else. In the middle of a nightmare scenario.

Cristina: Yeah. I mean, in the beginning, it's a nightmare, but once there's not that much people left, you kind of want to be with other people.

Jack: Yeah. You find yourself sort of obligated.

Cristina: Yeah. I think you'd probably give it up, your food to share with someone else just to have the company of someone else.

Jack: Yeah. So fascinating. I don't know, man. That's kind of crazy, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You don't even need zombies.

Cristina: Just.

Jack: Just lack of power.

Cristina: Yeah. Whatever happened in the road always wants.

Jack: No, you don't need. That's so excessive. You don't need that much to happen.

Cristina: No, you don't need that much.

Jack: You just remove electricity. That's how dependent we are on just electricity. We're not even talking computers. Like, we're dumb.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which one of us can, like, create something just, like, really practical, not artistic, like, really advance our living conditions? That's actually accented in the Walking Dead with that old lady who has the book of things everybody should probably already know how to do?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But they don't. And so she's smart as f****** having it.

Cristina: That is smart. Yeah.

Jack: Which one of us can build a functional windmill?

Cristina: Get a book for that. No. I feel like it's still gonna be complicated. I don't know.

Jack: Where have you ever seen a book for windmills? How to Build one not what it is. Not an encyclopedia.

Cristina: A book on windmills, I think.

Jack: Like how to build a windmill. Yeah, yeah. That kind of is important.

Cristina: Yeah. Man. That book doesn't exist, does it?

Jack: No. I'm sure somebody will make it. But what are the odds we'll ever see that person in this scenario? Like, we got to be so fortunate for that person to be trying to barter around us.

Cristina: Yeah. Windmill. There must be something easier to make than a windmill. Man. But that's a good idea. If it's like the one in the grand tour. Not the grand tour. The other show with the guy. The guy from the Great Escape. The two guys that made. It's like a windmill. No, it was a watermill. That's what it was.

Jack: Yeah, it was a watermill.

Cristina: Watermill. I wonder if that's easier to make. Probably you still need that water. Like you need that water. But where are you going to find that water?

Jack: But. Well, do you just find a river or something?

Cristina: Yeah, but you gotta live by there. And that's not safe.

Jack: If it's a river. Why wouldn't that be safe?

Cristina: Because you're out in the open. I don't know if someone's coming around the water. But if other people see it, I.

Jack: Mean, it's a river. Are they taking over the whole river?

Cristina: They are seeing. No, they see the windmill from far away. They want to.

Jack: They'll probably get rid of you anywhere you are. You have to. But I see what you mean. Like, it's really unnatural.

Cristina: Yeah. It will be easily spotted.

Jack: Yeah. So you have to make it in the middle of nowhere by a river.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like somewhere nobody would venture if that.

Cristina: Was easy to do.

Jack: Yeah. And the best option would be at a high altitude. So you get the water coming down. Then that pushes the watermill.

Cristina: Man. But I don't think it's possible because what they were using, though was like bamboo, and that's kind of tough to use. That's a nice material. Like, that's not natural in any.

Jack: Or you can find yourself an existing watermill by river and then start structuring things based on the watermill. So you. You gotta assume electricity isn't gonna happen. So the watermill is a giant gear, and you have to make everything mechanical and dependent on the giant gear.

Cristina: Yes, but what kind of things can you make?

Jack: For example, if you need to crush things, the watermill should be connected to a machine that in the turn of the watermill, something comes up and down, crushing something. So now you have just something attached to the other thing that sort of propels the motion of crushing.

Cristina: But would that be loud? Because you don't want the whole attention.

Jack: In the middle of nowhere.

Cristina: Okay. You're in the middle of nowhere, so it doesn't matter.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or you're at an existing watermill, which is already. The water is pretty loud.

Cristina: Yeah. That's an interesting idea. Yeah.

Jack: You just build things off of the watermill, making sure never to obstruct the watermill because you need its force. But it could mechanically make some things work.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You just have to be very mechanically minded because electricity is no longer a thing that'll function.

Cristina: It's like a lot of people just find those houses that have a bunch of sun. What is that called? The sun?

Jack: Solar panels.

Cristina: Solar panels. The houses that have a bunch of solar panels on their roofs. Because that would help, wouldn't it? Or would their house just stop working because no electricity? No electricity. I don't know.

Jack: I'm assuming in this world nothing electrical works.

Cristina: Even solar. Are solar panels electrical? It's not a lot, though. It is.

Jack: They generate electricity from the sun though.

Cristina: Yeah, but that's not working either.

Jack: Yeah. I don't know why, but no electricity works.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. So this is a water powered world.

Jack: Yeah. Because back at the beginning, some dude is like, the numbers told him electricity.

Cristina: Is done, but even from the sun, that's just crazy. Okay. But okay, yeah.

Jack: Something about our atmosphere, whatever, is not allowing the conversion of heat to electricity anymore.

Cristina: Yeah. So then the sun. Okay. So then the water. Then we just use water. All right. And then, I don't know, we could use heat.

Jack: Definitely heat. Now, for example, a steam powered ship of some sort. We can still have boats functioning. We can have steam powered cars.

Cristina: Steam powered cars?

Jack: Yeah. We would move into a steampunk kind of society. In order to calm things down, you.

Cristina: Have to be able to make steam powered stuff.

Jack: Some like, people will be out there.

Cristina: If you live on the river though, you can at least depend on fishing maybe.

Jack: Yes. You'll have food and water.

Cristina: Yeah. And if you know how to make traps, you can have like ducks.

Jack: I don't know animals, they hang out by the river. Like deer and crap like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's food.

Cristina: There is food there.

Jack: You also have to know how to hunt, though.

Cristina: Yes. Not just the traps.

Jack: Hunting as well.

Cristina: Like in the forest?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: The game.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Learning how to get your own food.

Cristina: That's cool. Rabbits are gonna be hard. Deer's gonna be hard.

Jack: Rabbits are pretty easy. If you have cages and crap.

Cristina: Yeah. I feel like fishing is the first.

Jack: Way to go and probably the healthiest too.

Cristina: Mmm. Yes. And if you can grow your own plants, of course.

Jack: And also, all things considered, fishing is one of the easiest ways to go too. If you have a very powerful river, build a sort of net that allows the water through but catches the fish.

Cristina: Yes, that's nice.

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Cristina: Catching fish and eating berries, well, you gotta be careful with that, I guess.

Jack: Also because you're in by water already, the soil will naturally be wet. Closer to the river, if you can find seeds, you can plant things that will start growing that you can eat.

Cristina: Yeah, but when you're really, when you're starving and you just find the place, what are you eating at the beginning?

Jack: Fish for sure. You can make a net out of f****** anything.

Cristina: Yeah, because I'm thinking plants would be easy, but at the same time it wouldn't because you don't know what's poisonous or not. It all looks the same.

Jack: You want to find a. You want to find and clear out a patch by the watermill of plants. And then you're going to plant there the seeds for your new plants. And you're going to try to cover the watermill with foliage by planting a bunch of s*** around it to obscure it more and more. But also you're going to be eating the things you planted. Double winners.

Cristina: But where were they getting the seeds from?

Jack: Well, you already found the watermelon. You just got to remember where it is, which is just follow the river and you'll get there. Make trips to town or whatever, to the nearest place.

Cristina: You don't even have to have good fruits. It could be spoiled fruits if for some reason no one ate any fruits or it's just trash or something like leftover. There should be seeds in them.

Jack: Yeah. Go to. Go to places where you would normally buy seeds and steal them. Most people aren't gonna think about that.

Cristina: Yes, Home Depot.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. People aren't thinking about that s***. They're like, where's the food? And it's like, why don't you plant own food?

Cristina: Yeah, you can find a bunch of helpful stuff there.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: In places like that. Not just seeds, but like a Home.

Jack: Depot is a pretty solid place to close yourself into. And you put all the crap on the roof to grow plants and s***.

Cristina: They also have their own area of plants that you could have. You can take out what you can't eat and just put the seeds in those pots.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Or they actually have pots and dirt. So you could make it yourself.

Jack: Yeah, but you also want to have water.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you're gonna die in Home Depot. Oh, and there's no food either. Until the plants provide.

Cristina: You're gonna be eating the garbage that they sell for short.

Jack: They don't have enough.

Cristina: They don't have enough.

Jack: Home Depot doesn't have enough garbage for sale. Oh, okay, so you kind of f*****. Yeah, you do need. But definitely into nature. That's number one. People who are like, I'm gonna go to a hospital. You're gonna die.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I'm gonna go to a police station.

Cristina: Medical stuff you have at home.

Jack: Well, what you could do is if you really think the s***'s hitting the fan, go and buy a f*** ton of medical supplies in bulk before anything is looted. And then you also go and you buy a s*** ton of candy bars right off the bat. If you really think s***'s about to hit the fan. Stock up on anything that has a. Like, takes long to expire, is really light, is really small, that you can throw into a bag in giant amounts. Candy bars and s***. Like Twinkies. Energy. But you can't eat s*** else when you can't eat s*** else. A Twinkie will make the difference.

Cristina: Twinkies.

Jack: Twinkie. It's fat.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So much fat and sugar. Energy. Ah. So wired that you can it sustain. It'll sustain you for a while. You don't want to eat a Twinkie and have normal food throughout the day at all. You want any food after a Twinkie.

Cristina: That should be your meal.

Jack: That's your meal. Well, if you're starving. Twinkie. Yeah, that'll do a lot. Mad sugar, mad fat.

Cristina: Like nuts are helpful though.

Jack: Yes. You have nuts, you have candy bars, you have granola bars. Anything light that you can throw into a single backpack is your food.

Cristina: And the problem though, with water is how to get enough water. Like if you have a bunch of water, it could be too heavy. Like, how much can you tell?

Jack: You're not taking water. No, you're going to the water.

Cristina: You're going to the water. Okay, but if your first stop is Home Depot, then what?

Jack: You are not stopping at Home Depot in this case, you just bought a bunch of candy bars. Medical supplies that you're gonna do. All the candy bars and other food goes in the book bag.

Cristina: Yes. And the medical supplies. Seeds too, then.

Jack: Yeah. You could go buy seeds. Yeah, that's why you go to Home Depot. Yeah, 100%. You buy a crap ton of seeds. But that's easy because you can have a bag of seeds. It's like a thousand seeds, and it's smaller than a candy bar when their seeds expires.

Cristina: I want to check that out, but doesn't matter.

Jack: You're not gonna be on a crazy mission.

Cristina: Not a crazy mission.

Jack: Yeah. It's not gonna take you 50 years to get to the river. Yeah, he's gonna get to the river.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And, like, assuming you didn't even find the watermill, at least you're by the river.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Now you have moving water. Clean by default.

Cristina: And hopefully fish in there.

Jack: And hopefully fish is the easiest part is the fish, which you can also get, like, a net, a makeshift net at Home Depot.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, you can get that. There's so many random stuff you can get at Home Depot. Home Depot should be something. You should get stuff at a book.

Jack: Bag, pack it with junk food.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That expires in a very long time. Go to Home Depot, and you get some makeshift net equivalent that would let water through, but not fish.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And you go get medical supplies because you're gonna be wandering into the woods or. Yeah. You're looking for a river.

Cristina: How do you clean the water, though? Okay. Like, if you need to drink water now you have no water. How do you drink water from the river? Like, how do you clean it out?

Jack: River water is clean. It's moving.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Still water is what you don't want to drink.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jack: Still water has bacteria. River water is filtered by where it's.

Cristina: Moving through, so you can just drink that.

Jack: It's not the cleanest in the universe, but, yeah, you can drink the water.

Cristina: You can make it cleaner, though.

Jack: You could boil it if you wanted to. If you wanted to be safer.

Cristina: Yeah, I would do that.

Jack: Which you could still put in your book bag because it won't take any space. You could put a bunch of candy bars in it and around it, and it won't. It's like. Yeah, pot isn't even there.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess.

Jack: So fill it up with junk food, a pot, a makeshift net, which you could have probably also squeezed into that book bag without taking up too much room.

Cristina: Not a torch.

Jack: Lighter.

Cristina: A lighter. That's probably a lighter.

Jack: And lighter fluid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: A magnifying glass so that you don't have to use your lighter when you have the sun to power fire starting.

Cristina: That's your new technology.

Jack: A bunch. Yeah. And a bunch of seeds. So many seeds.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You need all the seeds and then.

Cristina: To the wheel technology. Do you think that's gonna be a thing you were talking about? Wheel powered city.

Jack: Not wheel powered city, but using the. The power of the moving a watermill to sort of replicate a gear and then connecting things to that. Yeah, you can make things with that. Yeah, for sure.

Cristina: I wonder, like, what a fan. That's nice. But no, yeah, definitely.

Jack: You can cool your home. You can use the motion of it and connect it to a fan inside that's made entirely of, I guess, wood and crap like that. And you just need the one end of it to be connected enough so that it spins. And if you connect wide end to short end, the fan will spin like crazy, thus keeping you cool in the middle of crazy hot day.

Cristina: Yeah. I wonder if that could help you with a hose. If you had to water your plants and you're too lazy and you.

Jack: Yes. But also the point of having the plants planted along the edge of the.

Cristina: Oh, you don't have to water them.

Jack: You don't have to water them because.

Cristina: They'Re always solid, moist.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Forgot about that. That's awesome.

Jack: That kind of saves a lot.

Cristina: Yeah. Nice.

Jack: You need things like aloe vera, medical.

Cristina: Yeah. It's probably a lot of poisonous plants around you.

Jack: You got to kill everything that's there by default. And plant berries and cherries, strawberries. You want watermelons, you want avocados. You want just everything. Plant everything. Anything you could get.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Go to the supermarket and buy a bunch of s***.

Cristina: Yes. And eat it. No.

Jack: Well, yeah, actually, all things. All jokes aside, mission should be done by, like three people. Don't go to the woods alone. You and two homies. Because you need to be able to carry the stuff too.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the three book bags, one of them contains a bunch of different fruits that have seeds.

Cristina: Mm. From the shopping mark. Whatever.

Jack: Then that same bag could contain all the seeds for other things that you. As many different seeds as you can get at like Home Depot or some s***.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: The net is. Well, to catch fish. Like the food bag for creating new food. Then you have the survival bag, which is what. Where all the fast food, the. All the junk food is the junk food and the pan and just all that kind of stuff.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you're gonna have a person who's gonna have a bunch of different tools in there. It's gonna have a lighter, is gonna have a machete. It's gonna have scissors. I guess I could have the net in there. It could have a knife. You could have just tools. Tools. You got to get creative.

Cristina: Just random tools. You'll figure it out.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. You'll figure it out through necessity.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then in this exchange, you can. Between the three of you, you can also take shifts when you're living there, just in case something's coming.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Somebody's always awake. Three shifts, eight hours each shift.

Cristina: Yeah. I wonder, how would you practice hunt? How would you practice hunting in that type of situation?

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Like when you start wanting more than.

Jack: Just fish, you can start building traps.

Cristina: But for deers, like, bigger meat. Oh.

Jack: That's when you got to learn how to start hunting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which. That's another thing you got to steal. Take some survival books in one of those book bags. Oh, I know how to make basic things like a bow, Even if it'll take a lot of trial and error.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You just take it with you and figure it out. Hunting traps and crap like that. Any kind of books like that, you go and you rob Barnes and Nobles.

Cristina: Yes. So one friends doing Barnes and Noble. One is Home Depot. One is the shopping place.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Yeah. That's interesting.

Jack: And then you guys meet up when you take off, and then however long it takes you, you already have enough. And I'm assuming you could take two, three bottles of water and have it slowly in case it takes you several days to get to the water.

Cristina: And you have a gun with three bullets.

Jack: Yes, Stealing guns matters. You got to find a place to get guns. That's a hard one, because you got to get into a police station. You got to do a couple of heists.

Cristina: You have to heist.

Jack: Yeah. You got to get into a police station or kill a cop.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And take his gun?

Cristina: Why can't you just own a gun.

Jack: If you don't already own a gun? I know, but you got to get a gun.

Cristina: You got to get a gun. But I guess the gun isn't for shooting animals, though. The gun is just in case someone does find self defense.

Jack: Yeah, because you can't eat any animal you shoot.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, you can't shoot a deer. I mean, eat a deer after it's been shot.

Jack: Just shoot it in the head, and then you got to chop his head off before the lead gets anywhere else.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That sucks. But yeah, you shouldn't do that anyway, even if it wasn't a problem, because that's more.

Jack: That should be last resort self defense. Yeah. You should make it to the point that eventually could just rest that gun down and use a bow to kill a m*********** if need be.

Cristina: That's gotta be crazy training.

Jack: That's also why machete matters. Like, that's also a close combat weapon.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So you can deal with people that way, too. Yeah. Oh, that sucks. I feel like the gun is easier to do. Deal with someone.

Jack: Yeah. But you're only gonna have so much ammo.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Machete becomes problematic pretty quickly.

Cristina: Yeah. Hope you never get to that point, because that sucks. I don't know.

Jack: But who knows? Yeah. Hopefully no. So you plant a bunch of crap around your windmill, your water mill, and you connect anything that needs to be mechanically powered, and you make a city.

Cristina: No.

Jack: How do you make a city?

Cristina: I don't know. A tent city.

Jack: There's three people.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Just live in the house.

Cristina: There's a house by it.

Jack: There's a water mill. There's probably a house.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just a water mill out in the middle of nowhere.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know where watermills are hanging out at farms.

Jack: Could be.

Cristina: Maybe that'd be even more interesting. You have more.

Jack: You don't want. You do not want to be on a farm.

Cristina: Aw.

Jack: Because a farm is a place people know about. And it's like anybody who's intelligent enough is probably good enough at farming.

Cristina: Which means there's a water mill in the middle of nowhere. But buy a house in the middle of nowhere.

Jack: Yeah. Because usually there's, like, a purpose being served by that. Maybe the water mill is powering that house. That's a private property.

Cristina: Okay. I guess that's better than the farm. Lame.

Jack: Yeah. Like more people gonna know about a farm. Because a farm probably produces for many.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Than a watermelon. That's probably somebody just kind of secluding themselves to not be known.

Cristina: Mmm. Yes.

Jack: But we're assuming you don't even find a watermill. Right. So you don't even find a watermelon. You get to the river.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You can start building there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Axes and machetes.

Cristina: But you don't need a water mill to survive. Yeah. You don't need a watermill.

Jack: No. Because the river will feed the water to the plants. The sunlight will feed the light to the plants. The plants will grow over time. You already have a bunch of junk food that will hold you over for a while. You've made it to the clean water that you can drink. And if you're paranoid about it, you can boil it and drink that. You're good to live now.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you'll have fish for more food now that you've made it to the river.

Cristina: But you're probably living in tents, though.

Jack: Yes. For the meantime.

Cristina: For the meantime. You think they'll eventually be able to make houses or like a makeshift house.

Jack: Yeah. I don't know how complicated of a house.

Cristina: Like a box.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Some basic s***.

Cristina: Yeah. To protect from rain, I guess. I mean the tent should be good, but I don't know if you want more space than that.

Jack: The best plan would be right to try to find a fully mechanical car or something steam powered or something coal powered or heat powered or something like that. That a car that could function without electricity, which was gonna be a hunt. That's a mission and a half. But if you could find something powerful enough to then use it to get a Humvee.

Cristina: A what?

Jack: Like a Winnebago. A mobile home.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: A trailer of some sort.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That you could then drag to where your water is there and then you live in there. Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, that's way better. More roomy.

Jack: But now you got another heist after you've established yourself, which is find the vehicle, find the trailer. And the vehicle needs to be powerful enough to move the trailer. We're talking steam isn't going to cut it.

Cristina: So then what can I cut it?

Jack: I don't know. Coal can power an entire train and a ship.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: So coal is a great. Like that's a lot of heat and that heat.

Cristina: And there's coal powered cars like that Sounds like an impossible mission to.

Jack: I have no clue. That's a really good question. Let's check it out. Okay. So no coal power. No steam powered cars. Steam would be inefficient and we can't find coal powered cars. But that being said, diesel mechanical vehicles would be more efficient and powerful than electric vehicles anyways. So if you can find a fully mechanical diesel vehicle and then use that to pull. Which I guess it would have to be able to pull the trailer. You can get your trailer to your river and have a already built home.

Cristina: Finding a car, I don't know, it feels like a tricky. This is a very tricky.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Mission.

Jack: The trailer is the easy part.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You're probably gonna have to like get the trailer off of somebody because there's probably gonna be people living in a trailer park.

Cristina: No. It's not easy.

Jack: But it's easy finding it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Finding the car is where the problem is.

Cristina: Yes. Finding the car will be the biggest problem.

Jack: Yes. But if you can find a fully mechanical diesel powered car, then you could just steal a trailer home with the car though.

Cristina: I feel like you'd still have to probably steal that from someone. Well. Because someone's gonna be driving that car.

Jack: Yeah. But it's like one person. The problem is finding the car.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's the hard part. Killing a person with the gun you already have is not the hard part. It's the finding a fully mechanical, diesel powered vehicle.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Not easy. It's easier to just shoot somebody and take it. The other thing would be the trailer. The trailer is easy to locate, and in the middle of the night, you can just take.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. In the middle night. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Pretty simple, I guess. Yeah.

Jack: Scope it out and watch until there's nobody there. Just take it.

Cristina: Oh, wait, no. Yeah, you just connect it. Yeah. I'm thinking you have to drive that away too. But no, you're not driving it away. You're just connecting it to your car.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: That's. That's the plan, I guess.

Jack: Pretty simple.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you could get that to.

Cristina: Your river and live in that.

Jack: And live in that. Now you have a roof that'll protect you from the rain.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: A river that'll give you water and fish.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You'll also have plants planted in the area which will grow your food over time.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty perfect. I don't know what else you're missing.

Jack: That's kind of all the needs you have.

Cristina: Yeah. You got people. So you're not dying of Bordeaux.

Jack: Yep. There's three of you.

Cristina: But you can't use the car after you have it there, even if it has gas. That's probably risky.

Jack: You need that for total emergencies anyways. You don't want to burn through that fuel.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The best option would be if you're desperately hungry. Not hungry, but like, you want something special. Flip side, driving to bookstores. But then again, you could go to bookstores. Walking.

Cristina: Yeah. That's less suspicious. Like, you don't have to worry about people popping out of nowhere trying to take it. Trying to take. Exactly.

Jack: And it makes less noise so you don't attract anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Take a bicycle.

Cristina: Take a bike.

Jack: That's another thing you got to do. You got to make sure to steal bikes.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Mountain bikes. So that you can drive them through your woods easily.

Cristina: I guess the car could have the bike. Says it could be the storage for the bikes.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: For the rain and stuff like. That's. That's a good idea.

Jack: Yeah. You could definitely build sort of thing. And actually that's probably how you're gonna get to the river in the first place. You probably began with bikes because that's easy to get.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. So easy.

Jack: Three mountain bikes, three book bags. That means you don't have to waste your energy walking anywhere, and you get there sooner.

Cristina: Mm. But how do you all separate and then meet up at the same place? Or you got there first, then separated to get the things and then came back because you already knew how to get there.

Jack: Yeah. You already know where you're headed. There's a meeting plan, then you take off from there.

Cristina: Yeah, that's a great plan. Yes.

Jack: Survival, man.

Cristina: Except for the murder.

Jack: S*** happens. It's the apocalypse.

Cristina: I know.

Jack: Not gonna f****** do anything.

Cristina: It's just a tough, tough thing to do.

Jack: Take a life.

Cristina: Yeah. It's harder than if it was just zombie life.

Jack: You got to kill people still when it's zombies.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: Probably more so because there's a threat other than just people. So people are gonna be way more hostile.

Cristina: Yes. That still makes it easier, though, to kill those people than the people in this apocalypse. That may not always be hostile, but you're like, oh, I need a thing.

Jack: No, you're not gonna kill them if they're not hostile. You're not just gonna off somebody.

Cristina: Okay. So.

Jack: But in the scenario of getting the car, you're like, well, it's gonna be hard. Well, that means you're putting up a fight.

Cristina: Okay. Yes.

Jack: You're not. Just like, I'm gonna pop your. If you just get out and walk away, I'm gonna leave with your car.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm just gonna, like, off you for zero reason. I was assuming there was a problem.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: Just, like, get out. Bah. Too bad for you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, no, that's not how it works.

Cristina: Just in case. No, you're in a car.

Jack: What are you gonna do? I'll run you.

Cristina: No, I guess not. What if he has a second car?

Jack: Then you really got to kill him because he has all the things you need.

Cristina: Oh, you don't need two cars, but.

Jack: You can't have two cars.

Cristina: That's true. You could have two cars.

Jack: Yeah, it's pretty good. Because that means you can steal a second trailer from the same place and have even more room.

Cristina: Yes. You need a lot of. We don't. Do you need that much room or.

Jack: Just go to random car parks? Just go to random car parks. Hit one each time. Not car park. Trailer parks.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: One from here. Take it. I hit a different one. So they don't expect you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Slowly. You just keep taking a couple of trailers. 4, 5, 6. And you could turn them into different things.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: When is your kitchen? One is your living room, and they.

Cristina: All might have supplies in them. That's great.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: As long as no one's staying in them. They could be abandoned ones out there and you could just take those easily.

Jack: And you can also have a d***. Instead of generator creates electricity. So it wouldn't work. Because I'd be like, you have a gas powered generator, but no electricity works. So no you magical. But you can have a food storage trailer where you. Anytime you make a run for food that isn't what you're growing and fishing and hunting, you could bring it there. Bags of chips from looted stores and junk food of all kinds.

Cristina: And just beans. Because it's always beans. Why is it always.

Jack: Because it's in cans. It's takes a long time to expire, I guess. You can have anything in cans that lasts a long time. Get a f*** ton of cans.

Cristina: It's always. That's such a lame meal to just be eating beans. I don't know.

Jack: Because you can have dried beans for a long time. Might as well steal a bunch of those. But you could do that. Like a bunch of dried food that doesn't go bad. And then you can like cook it.

Cristina: If crackers don't go bad, get some crackers. Crackers do go bad. For bread and beans.

Jack: Bread will not. The bread ceases to exist.

Cristina: Yeah. They get old real quick.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Man. Why doesn't crackers last?

Jack: Because crackers are bread. Crackers are bread.

Cristina: I know, but can of bean is so boring.

Jack: But it's food you're not. Who cares about why are you worried about boring or not? It's the apocalypse.

Cristina: Once you have everything, you can get bored.

Jack: Well, it's not just beans. At that point. You just fished.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you can throw a fish with beans.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Rice also lasts an unfathomably long amount of time. You can have fish, rice and beans. Really leaning on those beans hard. You don't have to.

Cristina: Yeah. How are you gonna get the rice? Isn't rice usually in big.

Jack: You could get small ones. And you have a f****** car.

Cristina: You don't want to use the car too much.

Jack: You also have a bike.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. The bike.

Jack: And you could hang things. If you could find a three wheel bike. You're set.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because it won't tip. You could put bags and crap on it.

Cristina: Oh, okay then. Yes. We need some rice.

Jack: Powerful runs.

Cristina: We have some rice and beans with fish on the side.

Jack: Yeah, you can have.

Cristina: That's life.

Jack: Yeah. You can have that as well as pasta. Pasta lasts a really long time.

Cristina: Oh, okay. That feels like it'll be hard to cook though. With fire. Is It. I don't know.

Jack: That's the way to cook it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You boil water, which you're by a river, so you have infinite amounts of that.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: And then you boil the water. When the water is boiling, you pour it on the pasta and let the pasta get soft.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You hunt the animal so you have the meat. Two things you could get to make your life better after you're nice and stable is get a pasta maker.

Cristina: Pasta maker?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Machine that makes pasta. You just turn the thing and mix pasta. So you can have.

Cristina: But that's not from electricity.

Jack: Well, you can have. No, assuming that you. You can manually turn the thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So you can have a pasta maker and the other thing would be. Crap. Was I thinking a pasta maker And a meat grinder.

Cristina: Meat grinder.

Jack: You get a deer, you throw the deer in there, it grinds the meat for you. Now you can make meatballs, you can make burgers.

Cristina: You can do that with any of the meat. That's awesome.

Jack: Spice up your meat life.

Cristina: Have some rabbit burgers or fish burgers.

Jack: Rat burgers.

Cristina: Rap. Oh, you said rat.

Jack: Yeah, but they're in nature. What do you mean ill?

Cristina: Because you're eating all this other stuff. Why would you go to the rats? That's like desperate.

Jack: You want different kinds of meats. Why is it desperate?

Cristina: Because you have fish, rabbits and deer.

Jack: You're just thinking from a citizen point of view.

Cristina: What? What do you mean?

Jack: You're thinking from a privileged position. There's nothing wrong with a rat that eats nothing but healthy.

Cristina: But if you're eating all that other meat, why would you need rat meat?

Jack: Why would you need any meat?

Cristina: Because you need meat.

Jack: Then why would rat meat be not acceptable? What's unacceptable about rat meat?

Cristina: I don't know. It's a rat. Yeah, you're thinking from a citizen's point of view.

Jack: It's a position of privilege. I don't wanna.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Can you use the rabbit is a f****** rat.

Cristina: It's big, though. I don't know.

Jack: You could find rats bigger than rabbits.

Cristina: Oh, can you really?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay. Are you sure it's fine to eat?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: What about raccoons?

Jack: You're cooking it. You're not biting into its raw.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But raccoons. Pretty big.

Jack: Yeah. You can raccoon. You could pretty much eat anything you're going to clean.

Cristina: I guess. I guess it's better than eating people. I guess so.

Jack: Yeah. Which you could still also do.

Cristina: But yes. That's super duper desperate. That's not the first thing you're gonna go on your menu of foods that you have.

Jack: No.

Cristina: You're gonna choose a rat over the person, I would hope.

Jack: Who cares if the person is dead and it's because you killed them? You're not gonna let them go to waste either.

Cristina: No, I can't. No. I feel like you might have abandoned them before you even thought of, hey, I could have taken them to eat.

Jack: Oh yeah. If somebody's around you and you kill them though.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Somebody's at camp and you killed them so that they don't go tell people about your camp. Now you just have meat.

Cristina: Yes. In that case, I guess you eat them.

Jack: Yeah. Normality is out the window.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I know why you're thinking from living in society point of view.

Cristina: Yeah. But it will feel a bit normal. It feels like you're camping.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So I don't know. And then you eat a human and then it doesn't feel like you're camping anymore.

Jack: Well, it feels like you're out there surviving. It doesn't feel necessarily normal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But you sold a couple of trailers. You got your plants growing, you got some fish, you got water.

Cristina: You have so much. You don't need people.

Jack: It's pretty badass.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you can make regular trips to get board games and card games and books. Entertainment is so important. You can get things to stay in shape. Steel workout things, dumbbells and crap like that. Jump rop open. Just things to stay fit. That also very distracting how you can steal things to.

Cristina: I mean you have trips to stores, right? Yeah.

Jack: You just make trips to stores on your three wheel bike thing.

Cristina: Like say you let one person out and the other two have to stay in camp. Or one person stays in camp while the other two leave. Like there has to be some type of rule. Someone needs to protect the camp while other people.

Jack: I think one person leaving doesn't probably only have one bike with three wheels or two. I guess two people and how do.

Cristina: They wait before one of them go goes check to see if there's something wrong or.

Jack: No, I think, I think two people go. I think two people go. One drives a three wheel bike, the other one drives a normal bike. Then they make runs and they can watch out for each other while so.

Cristina: They'Re at least around each other in the same area and they're looking for things.

Jack: And if something split up, that's how people die.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: You'd have one person like watching the bike outside.

Cristina: Yeah. So if something goes wrong that they could both escape. At the same time.

Jack: And so you get books you want to read and board games. Like Barnes and Nobles is a place to hit repeatedly. You want to steal as much s*** from Barnes and Nobles as possible. MAD Books, notebooks, board games, card games, toys.

Cristina: I don't know why, but there's a bunch of toys.

Jack: I mean, I guess if you're a person who plays a toys, but you can take a bunch of that s***. Sudoku books and puzzle books and just all this kind of s***. You can fill a book bag up with so many different kinds of books.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Put them on your bike.

Cristina: Mmm. Yes. And if anything goes wrong, though. Huh? That's why you have that gun.

Jack: I guess that's why you have the gun.

Cristina: Wonder who's more in danger. It has to be the two guys over. The one that's hanging out at the place that they're staying.

Jack: Yeah, that guy's probably fine.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If they haven't found you yet. To the point that now you're just gonna worrying about entertainment. Nobody's probably finding you.

Cristina: Yeah. But you still have to be careful. So I think they'll take turns. Right. Of who stays in the camp and who goes out. So you can stay running around and I mean, you'll have workout stuff too.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But you'll have to.

Jack: And maybe over time, you could bring other people.

Cristina: Find survivalists who aren't dangerous.

Jack: Yeah. People who seem like they're cool. And you bring them over. When you find somebody alone and you can confirm they're alone and not bait, that's.

Cristina: That's a worry.

Jack: Then you bring them back and you're like, you can come live with us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, we're consistently making runs. We're doing whatever. We're doing whatever. And you can come live with us.

Cristina: That sounds so tough. Yeah.

Jack: It's hard to trust people. Mm.

Cristina: Yes. Because even if they're alone, they find out where you're at, they just disappear. Who knows how many people are gonna come back.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: That's a little troubling.

Jack: That's a problem.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You could have a dummy second location. Bring them there, Bring them there, see what happens.

Cristina: Yes. Just have them living there. I mean, you gotta have to pretend to be living there too, though.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. You could have one person staying there.

Cristina: Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. Every time they pass you, they get to live in the town. I guess whatever you're playing, you're living.

Jack: Additionally, you can make the. If you continue to steal trailers over time, those could be the walls. Your village place.

Cristina: Yeah. Your Village.

Jack: You just put them back to back to back. Create a barrier.

Cristina: Yes. That is an awesome idea. Yes, yes, yes.

Jack: Flip side. What if you can somehow get trailer trucks? They don't have wheels on the. If you need trailer trucks. And the ability to remove the trailer and put it onto the ground because nobody, nothing can go under it. It's just a giant box, Steel box.

Cristina: How are you getting it?

Jack: I don't know. I'm saying if you had a way to do that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That would be the goal. Like, you could definitely build walls that are too high to climb and literally to the bottom. Because you could go under a Winnebago and come out the other side.

Cristina: But it's hard to imagine someone how. Like how that would work out. How it would work out of getting those trailer.

Jack: Yeah. In the middle of nowhere. I don't know how you'd remove them from the back of a truck so that it would be flat.

Cristina: Yeah. Like even if you found them, how. What's the next step?

Jack: I guess tip it off the truck. But how? What can you possibly find that could push it off?

Cristina: If it did, could you even pull it back?

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Like to your location?

Jack: No, you'd bring the truck there. Oh, I see the problem. Yeah. There's no electricity. We can't.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: No, nevermind. There's no way.

Cristina: That's way too heavy.

Jack: The good thing about a trailer, a mobile, like a trailer home, is that it doesn't need electricity. You just connect it. The wheels are gonna move. Yeah, yeah, fair enough, Fair enough.

Cristina: But you should put something under it that's interesting. What if something sneaks under, like snakes? You don't want to worry about snakes. I guess so you should put something under it, I think.

Jack: Under what?

Cristina: The trailer trucks.

Jack: What do you mean worry about snakes?

Cristina: They could go under the trailer trucks and then attack you. I don't know.

Jack: How are they under the trailer truck? How are they gonna attack you?

Cristina: They're gonna sneak past your, I guess, your top, your trucks and attack you.

Jack: Why wouldn't they be able to do that anyways?

Cristina: Why wouldn't they? If you had something covering those spots where they could hide in. Because they're not in your home, whatever your area, the area you live in. I don't know why snakes are there. Snakes are there though.

Jack: There's probably. Snakes could probably just come out of the water. I don't understand what the problem is.

Cristina: To come out of the water. I don't know. It's just horrifying. If a snake Attacks you, I guess.

Jack: Like, I don't see.

Cristina: It's apocalypse work. Snakes are attacking.

Jack: Yeah. It's weird anyways, I guess. Yeah, that's what's gonna be happening there. People gonna. The woods or survival. I don't know how we got here. What led us to this?

Cristina: The electricity magically stopped working. Yes, all of it.

Jack: Because we don't know.

Cristina: We don't know.

Jack: But what led us to the electricity dying? Why was that important?

Cristina: It just was because. I don't know, the snakes were.

Jack: Oh, because we were talking about humanity being whack and reliant on all their technology.

Cristina: I totally forgot that. Yes.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all f******. Yeah. We would immediately devolve.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: Well, we got really far into how hardcore we would need to survive if electricity died. People go crazy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: D***.

Cristina: They would.

Jack: They would. That's mad real. That wasn't even, like, kidding. That's exactly what we would need to do if electricity died out.

Cristina: That's our plan and we're sharing it with everyone.

Jack: Yeah, it. Now everybody's gonna be at Rivers Party.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: So anyways, if you guys want to join our river party, make sure to do that. Sign up on some place where there'll be things to sign up on, I guess, and you can find other conversations about, I guess, apocalypses. There's a couple of episodes based on the different scenarios. I think there's one about the more probable apocalypses. There's another one about also building a civilization entirely based off of a potato.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So, yeah, there's a. There's a lot that could be done finding episodes related to this. So you go ahead and look for that and you can find all that stuff on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get your podcast.

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Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is the most important thing in the face of earth. So if you know somebody who would like to listen to this show and needs good survival advice for when the good government disconnects electricity, assuming we're all going to go chaotic and murder one another and they want to go and join our river party, they need to hear this episode.

Cristina: Yes. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. If you do lose it. Then again, those awards are paid off anyways.

Cristina: They're paid off? Yeah.

Jack: Like the people who made the films put their films in the thing and then they bribe the guy and whoever got the best bribe is the one who gets the trophy. Or would have.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's like you just pay a bunch of people off and then they say your movie was the greatest. And then people think your movies the greatest. Cuz they said the movie.

Cristina: And then more people want to work with you.

Jack: And people. Yeah, more people want to work with you. More people want to watch your movies. Yeah, because you paid somebody to say they're the greatest.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then somebody. You paid to give somebody an award for being the best actor in your movie. All of that. You paid for it. It doesn't necessarily need to be true.

Cristina: No.

Jack: But yeah, it's great. Sweet, fantastic. That's how it works. And then people didn't want Netflix to be part of that. I remember that argument.

Cristina: Because they're haters.

Jack: No, because Netflix doesn't pay anybody to do anything. It just submitted its thing.

Cristina: Cuz they're. Yeah, they're. They're the indie of movies.

Jack: Yeah. And they're s******* on all the other people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And winning. Winning. They're winning hard. Other places have to go put their movies on Netflix now. That's how bad it's getting. Do you want to make a movie and you didn't put it on Netflix? Good luck getting it seen.

Cristina: Does that mean there's not gonna be any awards? Because the whole deal was like, they can't come, they can't join because they don't put their stuff in movie theaters. But right now, what's being in movie theaters? So what's gonna be winning? Anything.

Jack: Netflix wins anyways.

Cristina: Yeah, it has to be. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 129: The Doomsday Clock

Doomsday Clock, Apocalypse, Rapture, Time Travel, Ending, Clock, Watch, Time

Has the apocalypse happened? Is there a way to predict when it will? The Doomsday Clock and a priests predictions of the Rapture are unpacked a day after the ending of the world on this episode of Just Conversation!

Rambling 129: The Doomsday Clock

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  • World War 3
  • The Fig Tree
  • The Apocalypse
  • Fat People
  • Biological Weapons
  • 2nd Amendment
  • The Road
  • Starvation

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

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Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you say, it's because it is a literal life and death situation. And she's gonna say, what? Or assuming it's a she. Well, in this scenario, it's a she because I'm the one talking. Okay, but let's assume whoever the listener who's trying to get somebody else to listen is, is talking to a she. So if you're female listening to this, you're lesbian for this moment. Or I guess it could just be your best friend. That just got real tense with. I guess whatever the case might be. You're talking to a female, and now you identify as a male, too.

Cristina: No matter what you.

Jack: No matter what you are, you currently identify as a male and you are talking to a female, regardless of whether that's what's happening.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Anyways, you tell them this, and they're like, what do you mean? And tell them the world is ending. If you don't listen to the podcast, it's like, how does that work? And it's like, I pressed a button.

Cristina: You pressed the button.

Jack: There was a red button.

Cristina: The list, the. Wait. The person that's saying this to them pressed the button.

Jack: Yes. We mailed them a button. We mailed our listeners a button. It's connected to a nuke. I don't know where the nuke is. It came out of the quantum computer.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: I just said, make something dangerous and it spit that out. And I sent it to all the listeners, and I'm like, somebody's gonna press it.

Cristina: Well, I have some news. I have to spoil your fun. That's a great idea. I wish they could have done that. If they Were listening now, but the world ended yesterday, I'm sorry to tell you.

Jack: So did that work?

Cristina: I don't know. Because they got it today. They're doing it today. Yeah, but if it ended, they can't do that.

Jack: So this is the post apocalypse?

Cristina: Yes. Well, it can be. There's two options, of course, depending on what happened yesterday. But we weren't there to see because I'm too scared. I'm afraid to find out that I've lost all my loved ones.

Jack: Why? F*** the loved ones.

Cristina: Well, anyway, yesterday, the world might have ended. There's this pastor. There's this. I guess. I don't know, this is just one of the many conspiracies online, I guess. I don't know if this is a bunch of people believe this or this is just one person's crazy writing, but this pastor explains on his website this whole detail of how and why it's ending yesterday. And I'm gonna try my best to explain to you why yesterday was the date.

Jack: Okay.

Cristina: To start off, you know when the Mayans got the date of the apocalypse, it was supposed to be 2012.

Jack: Yeah. They got the numbers wrong instead of 2021, 2012.

Cristina: It wasn't just them. The person that gave them that information was Satan.

Jack: Of course it was.

Cristina: Yes. And he got the number wrong. I don't know. Like, I guess he was also trying to figure out when the apocalypse is so he could be ready and let his people know. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What his reasoning for trying to figure it out. Because I would assume he maybe would know already. I don't know. But I guess for Satan, it's gonna be a surprise as well as for us. So the devil was wrong. Of course.

Jack: See, that makes total sense to me that somebody would say that because that means they don't get how time is calculated. And like the Mayans, I don't believe their Calendar literally said 2012. I believe the way they were calculated. Because we count 2012 based on the Christian calendar.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We're just kind of putting together where their calculation would land. This is a person who made a prediction and had no idea that's what happened.

Cristina: Well, obviously the Mayans were tricked to follow a different. I don't know, they were taught to.

Jack: Follow a calendar that didn't exist yet.

Cristina: Yes, yes, exactly. So maybe, maybe they did have the Christian calendar as well and they just lost it.

Jack: And that's why we're like, later in the year 2000. Well, in the year one or zero.

Cristina: In the year zero. They figured it out. There was no year zero, though. There wasn't like, a day that was.

Jack: Well, now we start counting, people. Okay, everybody, now we're gonna agree to start count. No, what happened with time was that they chose. Somebody decided this is like, the starting point.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then they calculated everything backward and forward from that moment.

Cristina: Yeah. So, but when was that year? That was like, year 11,000 or something.

Jack: Yeah, it was just 18,000.

Cristina: They discovered, like, or whatever. Okay, that's interesting. But, yes, there was no year zero. That's an interesting year, though. If anything happened that time, did they just skip zero?

Jack: They just skipped zero zero.

Cristina: There was no zero. Oh, okay. There's just one and negative one.

Jack: We got to think of it like Koreans do. Like, year one is also year zero, but it's like, from day zero all the way to 365. That's year one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Now think of centuries. You'll be in the year 2000, but be in the 21st century is because you're adding all the numbers from the beginning of the year 2000 to the beginning of the year 2000 and 2100, that's the 21st century. You're counting all the dates within that as part of the 21st century.

Cristina: Yeah. So that's what would happen with zero.

Jack: Yeah. Okay, so the first year is zero to 365. That is year one. So in any case, I guess Koreans are the ones who have it, Right.

Cristina: Oh, snap.

Jack: Holy s***. Who would have thought that?

Cristina: Then would the year of the end of the year be the right year?

Jack: No, that means the numbers are f***** up anyways. It would have been 2013.

Cristina: Oh, then does that mean if this calculation that he does is right, would it be 2022 instead of 21?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: He was wrong. No matter what the case might be.

Cristina: Okay, well, the way he figured out his math. Because there's math involved. Of course.

Jack: Of course.

Cristina: Like, super scientific here. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. One plus one.

Cristina: Yes, pretty much. Okay, so you remember the story of the fig tree, right?

Jack: Sure. The God angry at a fruitless tree.

Cristina: Yes. Jesus sees a tree, he's like, why don't you have figs when it's not fig season? How dare you? You're cursed. Now it dies.

Jack: Seems like something Jesus would do.

Cristina: Yes. And then he tells a story about a mountain, and then he explains, if you wish for any, if you pray to God, God is gonna make it happen.

Jack: So, okay, let's. Oh, my God. So Jesus, AKA God.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Goes up to a tree, and he's like, tree you should have figs on you. You should have figs right now. And see, I'm God and I make whatever I want happen. You should have figs. So if I pray to God, who's me, then anything is possible. Thus you should have figs, but you don't have figs, which means me, who I prayed to, didn't do the thing I prayed to me to do. So I'm destroy you, fig tree. This is on you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The end of story.

Cristina: That is the story. That is. Yes. Or at least that's my understanding of the story.

Jack: Conclusion, if I pray to me and I don't do what I told me to do, blame whoever is closest.

Cristina: It's the fig's fault. The fig's fault because it didn't have his religion. Because somehow the story is a symbol, or the fig is a symbol of the nation and not being religious enough.

Jack: The fig didn't have enough faith.

Cristina: Yes, the fig didn't have enough faith. What that is what the true story. That's from an actual Bible. People who look into the story, they're like, yes, that's what this story means. But back to the pastor, though. He's saying that that's actually the start of the doomsday clock. There's a hidden message where the fig tree is Israel, which is what the people who interpret do think. The fig is fig is Israel, the fig tree is exile.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: That's why it was like they think it's at that present moment, it's dead, or it's. It's because they don't have faith in that time. But the priest today thinks it's because this is gonna happen now, that that's not back then that he's talking about. He's talking about what's happening right now somehow.

Jack: Right. Like that big tree. Okay, so how does the math come in that justifies this?

Cristina: Yes. Okay. He starts off with seasons. For some reason, he talks about winter and spring and summer and that Jesus said that Israel is going to come back to life somehow with seasons. I don't know the true math. Okay, look, it's a little crazy. Okay, I understand. But since Israel became a nation again, he sees that as spring, and that's the start of a whole season for the fig, which is Israel.

Jack: Okay. Why is it real, becoming a nation, the deciding point of a season?

Cristina: Because Jesus said so. He feels like this is what Jesus is talking about. He thinks Jesus is talking about what's happening to Israel right now.

Jack: Israel, boom, nation. Thus spring.

Cristina: Yes. And then summer. Well, first it was winter, actually. Israel wasn't a nation anymore. Then spring, it becomes a nation. Then summer is when things are going to get bad and the apocalypse happens then. That's what we're waiting for, for summer. And there's something about in which generation is this great big second coming and the end of the world stuff is going to happen. And he says, like, it's going to happen in two generations or something. In the Bible, a generation equals 40 years or 70 years or something. So in 1948, it became a nation again. And then 40 years from that is 1988. And then he adds 40 more years for some reason to make it 2087. And then he minus seven years to make it 2001.

Jack: He added 40 once and got to 2087 twice.

Cristina: He added it once to make 1988.

Jack: Got you.

Cristina: And then again to make 2028.

Jack: Okay, that would make sense. 88 doesn't make sense. 2088, that number's inaccurate.

Cristina: Yes. And then he minus seven because there's going to be seven years of horrible stuff happening. So that's why he subtracted seven pieces. I don't know. Who says seven years? It's going to be seven horrible years. But he's saying biblical. Oh, okay.

Jack: Rapture.

Cristina: So when you -7 is 2021.

Jack: So there's three years of peace, four years of h***, or something like that.

Cristina: Okay, but so there's two things that could happen. Either yesterday, Israel was forced to bomb Iran to end their nuclear threat, triggering World War three and the crash of the world systems and start of the apocalypse. That all happened yesterday.

Jack: Sweet. I didn't notice. I must have been asleep or.

Cristina: This pastor wins the Bible lottery. The Bible code lottery. That's his words. The Bible code lottery. He figured it out and he starts this church. And this church does so well that God is like, all right, I'm a stop Iran's nuclear program with an earthquake, and then we get a few years of peace. The end.

Jack: No apocalypse. Everything just keeps going.

Cristina: Yeah. For a short time. I don't know when the next. Like God's.

Jack: Oh, he built in his re date.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: He built in the redate.

Cristina: Yeah. In case. So when his church does succeed, if it did succeed yesterday, then, well, the apocalypse is pushed back.

Jack: Fair. So his church, it all hangs on his church.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Okay, sweet. That seems legit.

Cristina: I love it. It's amazing, right? Did you know that 22% of Americans believe that the world will end in their lifetime?

Jack: 22%. I mean, I guess we're all f****** stupid. That's. Of course we think that everybody's paranoid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like in mass. It's mass hysteria. That's paranoia. And then media convinces the dumbest of people that everything is at its most crucial. And then it takes even the dumbest of those people and divides them to opposite extremes to fight an imaginary war that is orchestrated by people who pretend to be on opposite sides wearing suits, but are obviously working together and made up the narratives that they got their people who are fighting the wars to follow. And then we're just talking one country at this point. Obviously, we're just talking the United States, but it's happening. If it's happening in the rest of the world. You zoom out and then you remember that there's a place called the United nations where the people who send the people to war shake hands and agree they're gonna send people to die versus each. You could just blow that guy's brains out in that room and your problem is solved. No, me and you, we're safe because we're part of the United Nations. The people from our countries, we can draft those m************ into war and they're all gonna die. All made up. Yeah, it just all got made up behind closed doors. And then dumb people fall for it. If you believe in democracy, in republics, if you're unrelated to democracy and republics, a democrat or a republican, a leftist, a rightist. Regardless of which country you come from, if you pick the side, you're a f****** idiot.

Cristina: Who. You're on the wrong side.

Jack: Yeah, you f******. You're an idiot because you believe there's a side. They made that up just for you to believe in it.

Cristina: Ooh. Yes.

Jack: They entirely designed it for dumbasses who would believe there's a side. And then they trick you into believing it's the end of the world. Consistently.

Cristina: Consistently. That's why so many people around the world truly believe that a religious figure is going to return to save the chosen few. Yes, that's everywhere. That's not just here, that's everywhere.

Jack: They have that belief all of time, though.

Cristina: So it's part of religion. Pretty much, yeah.

Jack: All religions have this form of thing that's going to come and save you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Even freaking. What the h*** is it called?

Cristina: The alien one, the alien religion.

Jack: Scientology. You can be saved by aliens from 3,000 years ago or miles away or some s*** like that.

Cristina: 3,000 years ago?

Jack: I don't f****** know. I just know. The point is, aliens are going to come and take us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like, what the f***? Everybody has some salvation story.

Cristina: Exactly. Yes. Well, all of this reminds me that fake news is such a problem and that fake news has even entered the real doomsday clock. We talked about the fake biblical doomsday clock that happened yesterday. I mean, maybe it's not fake. Who knows? I haven't checked outside yet. But there's a real, what I'll call the real one, which is the science made, I guess. Doomsday clock and fake news has entered into what they're worried about.

Jack: Yeah. Because they're gonna trigger retarded people to react in the dangerous situations. The insurrection was triggered because fake news.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The assault on Asian Americans is because fake news.

Cristina: Yes. So many things.

Jack: War is formulated because fake news propaganda Russian hacks into our systems and create fake narratives that then cause people to be paranoid anti vaxxers, freaking the leftists taking over the world. But then the right is, you know, being all rogue and it's like, doesn't matter where you come from, what side you stand on.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You fell for the fake news.

Cristina: So many fake news.

Jack: Yeah. Both sides are susceptible, but it's targeted towards the dumb people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If you believe any news outlet. You fell for it.

Cristina: Yes. So that's why they had to add that. And from learning about that, I found out that the doomsday clock has been around for 75 years, just waiting for us to get close to him for the actual doomsday, which would be us starting it as human beings.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Nothing else that's gonna happen. Like no meteor is gonna. We're gonna become innovative enough to solve that problem.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Instantaneous. What we can't solve is. Oh, that a****** has a button. Well, you know what I have?

Cristina: That's exactly how it's gonna end. I mean, we're already there. We're just waiting for who presses that button first.

Jack: We're waiting for mutually assured distraction.

Cristina: Yes. That's really what they're watching. That's all they're watching for.

Jack: Some douche is gonna press the button.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then some other a******'s gonna panic.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then everybody's gonna start pressing their respective buttons and that's it.

Cristina: Hopefully we're in Mars by then.

Jack: That's.

Cristina: I guess that's the only thing. Like, we gotta get some people over there. So once this is gone, I think.

Jack: Elon Musk is to get us the f*** out of here. Because he's like, they're stupid, bro. They're really gonna just cause this. I just need to be off before that happens.

Cristina: Yeah. What it's problematic, but it's gonna happen. So on the Doomsday Clock, we're the closest to the end that we ever been.

Jack: It's always the case. I know. That is a fact about the Doomsday Clock.

Cristina: I've always been like that.

Jack: You were always the closest.

Cristina: Well, the closest.

Jack: Inching.

Cristina: Yeah, it's always inching. But it's always moves back and forth, though, as well.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like, away from it. What is it?

Jack: But when it comes back in, it comes back in harder.

Cristina: It's way, way seconds away. Yeah.

Jack: If you were to think about it and think of a grandfather clock.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Except rather than swinging really hard to both sides and then focusing in the middle, you start in the middle and you gradually tick harder and harder and harder. And your swings are more drastic every time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we're in the really extreme swings where one day we're almost there, the next day, a moment away from peace, and then again, totally nuclear moment.

Cristina: Well, right now we're at just 100. We're just at 100 seconds. And that was since last year, because they do it every year. But last year was the closest. And this year is. It's the same. They haven't changed at all. It's that bad. Yeah.

Jack: It's 2021, part two. It's 2020, part two. It's 2021.

Cristina: Yeah. Yes, yes. And besides, we got what fake news we have to worry about. What else do we have to worry about? Oh, they also watch, of course, for nuclear threats. Did we already say that, too?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yes. And I don't know if you know this, but in 2019, there was almost 13,900 nuclear warheads in the world.

Jack: Don't we have like, 99% of that?

Cristina: Probably, yes. But, you know, the highest was having 7,000. I mean, 70,000. In the mid-1980s, there was 70,000 nuclear warheads in the world.

Jack: But those were weak sauce next to the nuclear warheads we have now. That's why we had less. They're way more overpowered.

Cristina: Oh, yes, that's true. That's probably true. Also, climate change has been added to the list since 2007, so.

Jack: Because we're always melting everything.

Cristina: Yeah. And that's the most controversial thing that they've done, because, of course there's the.

Jack: Climate change, because f****** back to the deniers.

Cristina: Yeah, the deniers. Yes, exactly.

Jack: It's part of that person who picks up snow and brings it into a freaking town hall meeting. Do you think there's fake. There's a. Is climate change real? Then how am I holding snow? It's like, I don't think you comprehend what climate change is.

Cristina: No, no. So fake news and conspiracy theories are important to them because the conspiracy theories, what worries them is the WHO anti vaccination movement and how that's like. Some things that were gone because of vaccines have come back because people don't want to take the vaccines for it. That kind of stuff happens.

Jack: It's crazy that we would have gotten it under control because people understood how vaccines worked and somehow that knowledge got lost.

Cristina: I don't think they knew how it worked. I think it was advertised to them. Good enough. Well enough that it was like, oh, yeah, we should take it because it's popular, or something like that.

Jack: But then fake news jumped in.

Cristina: Yeah. Like, it was probably fake news of, like, it's gonna help you, even though we're not really sure it's gonna help you.

Jack: And then, you know, I'm saying fake news popped up. Oh, yeah, I see what you mean. Because then fake news popped up and, like, convinced them otherwise.

Cristina: Exactly. Exactly.

Jack: How many people have no idea how vaccines work? Yes, they're too stupid to do the.

Cristina: Research, but the scientists aren't good at explaining things either.

Jack: God, I hate scientists. They're so dumb, too.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Like, they're academically smart. They are not necessarily even intelligent. They just have academic information memorized. If they were intelligent, they'd be like Einstein, that you could rephrase it without reciting what you read from a textbook.

Cristina: Rephrase it? That makes sense to a child.

Jack: Well, that would be the point of rephrasing it in the first place.

Cristina: Okay, yes, yes.

Jack: So that you can say something that isn't what you read off of a textbook. But scientists are f****** stupid. They just have good memories.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So they can only repeat what they memorized off of a textbook.

Cristina: And then the average person is going to see that, hear that, and think of gibberish.

Jack: Yeah, you. You're lying to me. Because you're telling it to me like this. We need people to study Einstein and learn to communicate things to people so that they can be like, this is what it is. And you'll be like, oh, I can picture that.

Cristina: Yes. So ridiculous. And a few things that they're looking. A few things that they're looking into, but it's not really on the list yet. Is disruptive technologies like synthetic biology and gene editing.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: I wonder what horrible things could happen from that.

Jack: Wait, why are they looking at that?

Cristina: That's in case something horrible happens in.

Jack: That I somehow Doubt that. The whole purpose of that would be for us to become better, to remove problems.

Cristina: Well, maybe someone's gonna use that to do evil. I don't know how.

Jack: I mean, I guess it would be weird. You'd have to acquire fetuses that aren't dead. Like, you're talking about the sketchiest, darkest holes of science.

Cristina: Oh, like some.

Jack: Well, they're worried about the ground. I mean, there was that guy who was just f****** splicing DNA of humans and pigs and animals and s***. Like that was a f****** thing.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, we found that guy. He disappeared.

Jack: Yeah, he just some Mexican guy who just bailed. He went to China to do this. Did this thing.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Trail runs cold as f***. Yeah, that's the guy who made Scooby Doo.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, that guy. Oh, my gosh, yes. They're looking at him. He's on the list. Well, he's not on the list yet. They're waiting to see what he does.

Jack: Man, you know what's f****** crazy?

Cristina: What?

Jack: That's China again.

Cristina: That's China because he went to China.

Jack: To be able to do it. That's mad f*****. Is that just like the anything goes over there?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: D***, bro. Maybe that's mad f*****.

Cristina: Yes. And they're also worried about artificial intelligence because of weapons mostly. You know, smart weapons.

Jack: I guess they think they're gonna turn on us.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: That seems highly unlikely.

Cristina: What? These aren't on the list. These are like in the far future. Let's see what happens. It's not anything. This isn't stuff that they're actually on. This. This isn't what they decided the clock on or anything.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Really looking into this. They're just.

Jack: And how are we. Just a couple of seconds. I don't understand.

Cristina: We're a couple of seconds because of all the things that I mentioned.

Jack: No, no, no, no, no. That means that in exactly 100 seconds from this moment, everything should end. How is.

Cristina: Because that not the case.

Jack: What does 100 seconds really mean?

Cristina: It doesn't really mean anything. It's. It's just a symbol. It's just a metaphor of. It's good. We're really close. Like, one simple mistake extra that you add on to this list might actually end the world.

Jack: Got you. That makes sense like that.

Cristina: Yeah. And they started. They started this list because after World War II, a lot of the scientists that were part of the Manhattan Project and were working on the nuclear bomb, they were just. At that time, they were just wanting to be Germany in making the nuclear bomb, and they weren't really worried about, like, what's this gonna impact the world if we actually, you know, use this thing? They were just like, we're scientists. We gotta do this. And then after the atomic bombs were used in Japan, they were like, oh, crap, this is bad. This is not fun. And then they were worried that we could destroy the Earth with these things.

Jack: Which is pretty accurate.

Cristina: Yes. And that's when they started this list and seeing, like, how could we convince leaders and people to take care of the Earth and slow down with this whole arms race and all that stuff?

Jack: Who pays attention to the clock?

Cristina: They're hoping that the government will pay attention. I don't know if they do, but that's their goal. And for regular people to be concerned too, because I guess they expect regular human beings to protest together to make change or something.

Jack: You know, make everybody paranoid.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Try to stir up some madness.

Cristina: In a good way? No, not a mass hysteria, I think.

Jack: No, it's kind of mass hysteria. They're trying to scare everybody into action.

Cristina: Yes, I guess, in a way. Yes. Yes. But they think it's realistic, not something imaginary like the biblical doomsday.

Jack: So you're saying the biblical doomsday is imaginary?

Cristina: It's from one guy's point of view.

Jack: How is he not the guy? How do we know he's not the guy?

Cristina: I don't know. I'll find out when I go outside. But as far as I know, he's not the guy. But I don't know if they're the people either. Like, I don't know, they're also doing what he's doing. So who knows?

Jack: You tell me who's not. Who doesn't have faith in some random s*** and have a thing they call the Bible to a scientist? Equations. Scripture. Follow the equations. It tells me all the answers. You mean like the Bible tells these people the answers? Yeah, yeah, the equations tell me all the answers.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: But you can't prove anything there. Well, they're theoretical.

Cristina: Yes, but.

Jack: So you have faith in these theories? No, no, no. It's fact. But you can't prove it. That's why it's a theory. It's just religion.

Cristina: It's just religion. Well, this. Yeah, I guess so. We got two different doomsday clocks, okay? And they're both saying the end is near.

Jack: One says it already happened.

Cristina: Oh, yeah. One says that it's already happened unless he actually saved people with his church. And then it moves back a little.

Jack: A little. Got you enough time to save more people.

Cristina: Yeah, so keep pushing it Back then.

Jack: Eventually save everybody and you'd beat it.

Cristina: Yep, I guess. Right? No, it eventually has to stop, though. There eventually has to be an end because the apocalypse has to happen there. Whatever. The Rapture.

Jack: Yes. There's God, thus Rapture.

Cristina: Yeah. So there's no. Like, we can beat it.

Jack: And then, you know, what's the biggest hole in this guy's plan?

Cristina: What?

Jack: The fact that he can push the apocalypse that God decided back. Is this guy somehow related to St. Patrick?

Cristina: Maybe he's got some St. Patrick's blood in him.

Jack: He's a descendant. Oh, snap.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just.

Cristina: If he does it, God's gonna help him. That's. That's the deal.

Jack: That's the deal.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. So if he gets enough people. I don't know how much he is enough people. How much was it for that one story where God was like, I'm gonna destroy this place unless you convince a hundred people. And then he's like, no, what if I convince 10 people? Okay. And then no two people or something like that. You know that story?

Jack: Yeah, Yeah, I remember that story.

Cristina: So what if it's like that? Like, if you just convince two people that the doomsday biblical clock is true, that they need to be Christian or whatever it is if they convert to whatever he's selling, that he's. He saved the world.

Jack: Maybe. I suppose. Yeah. I don't see how it would be any different.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. In 1953 was the closest before 2020, where it was set to 11:58pm after the U.S. and the Soviet Union had hydrogen bomb tests. Right. In 1991, it was the furthest away from the. From midnight. It was 1153 in that year. The end. It was the end of the Cold War, and they signed a Strategic Arms Reduction treaty so that they would stop or to reduce the amount of dangerous weapons they had.

Jack: Who?

Cristina: The world. The America and the Soviet Union, I guess.

Jack: Got it. Got it.

Cristina: And so the way they. The way the scientists do this, every year, they begin in November, and they meet up in Chicago for a day and a half, and they ask two questions. One, is, is humanity safer or at greater risk than the year before? And is the. Is humanity safer or at greater risk than all the years since 1947, which is the year they started the clock?

Jack: And that's how they measure how much further to push it.

Cristina: Yeah. Whether to move it closer or farther from whatever it is.

Jack: We're not necessarily always more dangerous than we were the year before, but we're always consistently more dangerous than when we began. And if we take any five year sample, at least we're always significantly worse than any five year before us.

Cristina: You think so? We have a. We don't always move. Also, there's been some periods where it's been the same. Like from 1953 to 1960. That's not a lot of years. But those years, it was all that year. I mean, at that time it was all the same time. It's not always going up and then back down. There's been years where it's straight down, which is bad, but then some straight ups, which was good and good. Like when I'm saying up and down, I mean like closer to midnight is down, and farther to midnight from midnight is up.

Jack: So 1991, we were further from midnight, further from 1947 than we are now in 2021.

Cristina: Yeah. We're like, wait, what? From what year? 1947. Yeah. And for how far we are from the clock from midnight, it's 100 seconds, which is a minute and two thirds. They actually used seconds for some reason instead of minutes, they used seconds. This was the first time that they used seconds instead of minutes. That's how bad it is right now. And yeah. So it's still 100 seconds to midnight.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: And what's like you said earlier, that panic, misinformation and racism relating to Covid has just spread all over social media, all over the world, faster than the virus. That's pretty crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Again, stupidity is the main target of anybody seeking money. If you're trying to sell something, because everybody's trying to sell something, and fake news is just you selling stupid f****** information, but you don't give a s***. You're trying to get the views which equals money.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so you'll sell dumb s*** to dumb people who buy your dumb s*** regardless of what side they land on. If you're buying it, well, you sold some dumb s*** to somebody.

Cristina: Yeah. Have you heard. How many conspiracy theories do you think you've heard so far in my life? Since the vaccine?

Jack: Relative to the vaccine?

Cristina: No, to the coronavirus, actually. To the coronavirus. How many conspiracy theories have you heard so far?

Jack: New ones or in general?

Cristina: In general, I guess.

Jack: Conspiracy theories about the virus or since the virus?

Cristina: Since the. About the virus? Both. I don't know. I want to talk about both. Okay, but first I'm going to talk about how the coronavirus was made or.

Jack: Why you are asking how many conspiracy theories about the virus I have heard or just in general, like monkeys came from the.

Cristina: No, just about the coronavirus. How many conspiracy theories have you heard about the coronavirus?

Jack: I don't know, 10.

Cristina: 10. Well, have you heard that the coronavirus. There's one that it bears the sign of the beast, symbolized by 666. I don't know how they found the number on the virus, but a priest found. Did math, of course.

Jack: No, he didn't.

Cristina: But okay, he did math and I'm sure he showed it to people and it was like, look at this math. I didn't actually check up his math because it just. It's too ridiculous. Where do you find this stuff? But people do. Coronavirus is an American biological weapon. You for that one.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: The Chinese. It's a Chinese chemical weapon.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: Oh, we talked about this one. It's caused by 5G towers.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: It's caused by Bill Gates to put a microchip in you.

Jack: Yep. Heard that one too.

Cristina: It's caused by Bill Gates to sell you vaccines.

Jack: Didn't hear that one, but that makes sense.

Cristina: I don't think that makes sense.

Jack: Like he could own these vaccine companies for.

Cristina: Okay, he has. Yep. Yep. The coronavirus isn't real.

Jack: That is the most common one.

Cristina: That is the most common one. And it's just another flu.

Jack: That is not necessarily conspiracy theory.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's. It is a Covid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which so is the flu.

Cristina: I guess people just think it is the flu.

Jack: It's not. Not the flu. It's Covid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is what? The flu. They're both coronas. I guess Covid is the wrong name. But they're both coronaviruses.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: There's just different kinds of coronaviruses. We've had coronaviruses forever. SARS is coronavirus. It's just a different kind of SARS that we're dealing with right now. So it is sort of kind of the flu. It's just, you know, the flu took some steroids or some s***. At the beginning it was way weaker.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But then it got to the fat.

Cristina: People and the old people.

Jack: And the old people. It was just raging, Ray. That's where it got its like legs. It started running dash and darting. Just f****** people up. But also we're in a consumer culture where we sell McDonald's to everybody and they eat it because they're weak minded morons who don't really care about their health. And then when they're starting to die, they then get scared. It's that thing about the every atheist in his last moment praise.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's exactly what's happening here. It's like, oh, my God, I need to be healthier. And it's like, you have had your life to make this choice. Now you decided, nah, maybe if it takes you out, you just had it coming.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's where I am with this virus. I got no problem. I want everybody to catch it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: 100% of us. If you did not prepare for this, this is your fault. You went to school where they taught you health and hygiene and you had parents who told you clean your. Wash your hands, brush your teeth, take a shower. We all had that. At least the majority of us. And the ones who didn't have such a robustly, ridiculously overpowered immune system because they're so g****** dirty that this coronavirus enters your body and it f****** dies.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Okay, so you're either in one of these two extremes or you're a fat.

Cristina: Person and you should die.

Jack: And you probably should die.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: And look. Oh, we shouldn't. Fat shame. Fat people are dying because the virus kills fat people. That is literally what's going on.

Cristina: Do you think Phyllis Gates has a problem with fat people?

Jack: Who's Phyllis Gates?

Cristina: Bill Gates. Do you think Bill Gates has a problem with fat people?

Jack: Oh, no, I don't think he actually made this virus. I think this virus has a problem with fat people.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And old people, it just has a problem with people who aren't healthy.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: And if you're obese, you're not healthy. And you know, big is beautiful. We push that so much, we have one of the highest f****** counts in the world. That's how badly we push. Big as beautiful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, bro, it could be, but healthy is more beautiful.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Big could be as beautiful as you want it to be. It will never be as beautiful as healthy. If big is beautiful, then healthy is f****** gorgeous.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's how it goes.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This virus is taking the bottom tiers down and only leaving the top.

Cristina: Ow.

Jack: You were beautiful. You weren't gorgeous. You were just beautiful in. You didn't cut. F******. You didn't make the bar. Oh, no. This 300 pounder is equal to that 115. Nah, nah. I promise. If you were to take some health tests, you'd fail. You'd get a very different result. Like if we couldn't look at you physically and just. You gave us blood and we took samples and we couldn't see you. If we just had that, we could tell you you're ugly based on how unhealthy you are.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: That's all it would take we don't need to see you. You're just ugly.

Cristina: You're just ugly.

Jack: You're just ugly.

Cristina: I hope they become. That's a rating system in the future. What?

Jack: Like, how healthy you are, man. I don't know why we don't push that. It should be like, the healthy you are, the sexier you are, regardless of how f****** you really land. On a scale of 1 to 10, like, how round your face is or to color your eyes or color your hair. The tightness of your waist. If you're healthy, who gives a s***?

Cristina: We gotta know what your doctor says about you.

Jack: Yeah, well, it. I guess we should normalize being attracted to people who eat well and seeing people exercising. Me like, oh, yeah, that's f****** nice. Somebody eating well. Oh, yeah, it's f****** nice.

Cristina: Be turned on by those things.

Jack: Yeah, we gotta normalize that because we're like, big f****** fat thighs and huge a****. And, like, one. Most of that is fake.

Cristina: People have a fetish for that. They're like, you eat more, eat more.

Jack: Media did that.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: Rap was not the mainstream, but they had women shaking their a****, Usually bigger women, all sexy and s*** and skimpy outfits and whatever. And then rap became the mainstream, and we still maintained that in those videos. But now people want it to be those things because it's the mainstream. It's cool, and I want to be cool. And thus we have in real life today, people we were looking down on in music videos 20 years ago that is just like, it left the f****** music video and is just walking around outside. It's like Michael Jackson jumping out of the f****** screen and Family Guy and snatching up the kid.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, it was in the screen. Now it's just out here.

Cristina: Mm. Well, I'm fat racist. You're fat racist. Okay.

Jack: Ever since. Ever since COVID I'm on COVID side.

Cristina: I'm like, look, you're pro Covid Joe.

Jack: The rest of us are f***** because of these people.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: If there weren't so many fat people, the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with this s***. There wouldn't be that many people dying. It's because there's that many unhealthy people. It's the fat people's fault we're all f*****.

Cristina: What about old people?

Jack: That's not their fault.

Cristina: They're old, but they're dying.

Jack: Aren't they way less than the fat people. Oh, it's the fat people in places where overweight was the minimum, age was the maximum. So if you don't have enough overweight people. All you can calculate is the older people. Think of Italy. Absurdly healthy country. Obesity. One of the lowest countries with obesity. Italy also, they have some of. Actually, literally the largest elderly population in the world.

Cristina: Those are the ones.

Jack: And that's who was dying. They didn't choose to get old. That f****** happened. Yeah, that happened to them. Not by them, but in these countries. Like, our population isn't majority elder. We're majority young. We have crazy young population. For us to pretend that it's not the fat people's fault that we're dealing with lockdowns and forced vaccinations. No, it's the fat people's fault.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: We don't have enough old people for it to be a problem the way it was in Italy. Well, we don't. We don't. It's so small. Our elderly population is like 15%.

Cristina: 15%. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, it's. It's.

Cristina: How much is the fat people?

Jack: 65% of the American population.

Cristina: What? 65.

Jack: 65% of the American population. You're more likely to see somebody overweight than somebody. Not on average.

Cristina: On average.

Jack: If you were to see three people, two of them are overweight.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: That's where we are.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, of course all this s*** is their fault. We're dealing with it because of them.

Cristina: Wow. Yeah. F****** fat people also. But what if. What if the coronavirus is trying to keep the masses obeying the government?

Jack: So it's a nanovirus.

Cristina: I guess it's for mind control. I don't know. I guess it's killing off people. People who disobey the government.

Jack: No, in this case, it would still be some sort of biological weapon, but intentionally created for the sake of having the right to impose these laws and rules by scaring people into agreeing to them.

Cristina: Oh, yes, that's. Yeah, that could be.

Jack: It's the whole get rid of guns problem. Like, nobody's really trying to get rid of guns, but the ideology behind that is, if we wanted to.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We just go ahead and send a couple of people to shoot up some of the leftist areas, then they would force us to remove their guns, and then if we wanted to overthrow them, they'd have no guns to fight back with.

Cristina: Is that a conspiracy or that's a thing?

Jack: No, that is a fact. That is exactly the point of guns in the. The amendment. The Second amendment is to defend yourself against a tyrannical government. Yes, the government is who's trying to get rid of your guns. Yes, but they usually don't do crap, but wait until you try to push it and then they're all on board. Yes, yes. We need to do this depending on.

Cristina: Your party though, I guess.

Jack: Not really. If you got money, because even some Republicans lean into it. It's really just about if you're rich and you kind of probably make money off of guns too.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Like if you're an NRA member, you're probably paid off.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're making money by supporting this.

Cristina: Which many of them are.

Jack: Which many of them are. Because ultimately if you're not an NRA member, you have no benefits here. Yeah, f****** get rid of the guns. If you wanted to overthrow these f****** would be way easier if they didn't have some. Not to mention it's f****** stupid to say you want guns because at the end of the day, what is your stupid pistol gonna do to a tank?

Cristina: I don't know. You're gonna throw it at the.

Jack: Yeah. What are the Republicans think they're gonna do? Well, I got my gun. If the government tries that, bro, they got missiles.

Cristina: They got robots.

Jack: Yeah. They got roach you can't beat no. Figures. Your gun isn't s***. It's fully automatic, bro. Their missile is like a tank that flew 100 miles per hour at you.

Cristina: They got dogs robot that looks like that dog robot from the Black Mirror episode where it was like an apocalypse and just dog robots everywhere.

Jack: Yeah. This is just real s***.

Cristina: It wasn't even like any scary type of robot chasing you. It was a little tiny dog robot that looks like it could flip really well.

Jack: But it's a total robot. That's good enough.

Cristina: Yes, yes. And of course the coronavirus was made to kill the old people because someone really hates the old people.

Jack: No, but that. I've heard about that one. That's population control.

Cristina: Oh, that's part of the population.

Jack: Because we allegedly. We don't. It's not that we don't have enough resources. They're distributed very shittily. We have a bunch of rich people with a s*** ton of resources and then poor people with none of it. And then we're like, there's not enough. But also we like don't use most of the land on Earth either.

Cristina: So what do they get from killing the old people?

Jack: Well, they're idiots and they think that there is a population control problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And if that was the case, then if you get rid of all the old people who are already going to die eventually.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You ease some of the resources strain so they could be spread out more Evenly amongst everybody left. But again, we don't have a resource problem. We have a resource management problem.

Cristina: Definitely.

Jack: And so I get where they're coming from. But just kill the billionaires and you suddenly have a lot of resources.

Cristina: Yes. I don't promote that.

Jack: You don't promote killing the billionaires?

Cristina: I don't promote killing anyone. Not even the fat people.

Jack: That was. The virus is doing it for us.

Cristina: Exactly. But I'm not encouraging the virus. The coronavirus is made to kill poor people.

Jack: It's funny, though, because, like, the homeless people have, like, flourished in us.

Cristina: That they're flourishing. Yeah. A lot of people have become the poor homeless people because of that. Yeah.

Jack: There's been sort of a flip. People who are already homeless and poor have been put up in hotels so they wouldn't be out exposed, and thus they had better amenities. But then people who lost their jobs are the ones who replaced them on the streets. And those resources were already taken by the people who were on the streets. So the poor people kind of won, especially with free checks and s*** like that. It's the people who work. It's the middle class who got really shafted.

Cristina: Mm. So was the coronavirus for them?

Jack: It was to take out the fat people, the old people, and make the middle class poor and make the poor stable.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's to shake it up. The billionaires at no moment moved position.

Cristina: Nope. Everyone else said.

Jack: Everyone else said, wow.

Cristina: It was manu. It was made to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Which is exactly what it is.

Jack: Exactly what's happening.

Cristina: It's exactly what's happening.

Jack: That is the right one.

Cristina: Maybe. Maybe it was made for that. Who knows?

Jack: It's definitely what happened if you owned a toilet paper company, a mask company, glove company.

Cristina: Lotion.

Jack: Lotion. Sanitizer.

Cristina: Yeah. In the beginning, sanitizer was.

Jack: Yeah. Not lotion. Sanitizer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So sanitizer, any of these things you stacked, and you're probably staying stacked for a while. Like, even if they bought in bulk and they can't come and buy more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It doesn't matter. There's other people still buying, probably more than they need to and using it more often than they need to anyways.

Cristina: People are probably buying bulk cans, camp foods, and all that other survival list things.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: You know, like, you're never gonna need it, but it's gonna get old.

Jack: It's gonna get old eventually.

Cristina: Eventually you're gonna end up eating it. That sucks.

Jack: On the flip side, look old. Better than not.

Cristina: Yes. Is it? We won't get you sick if it's old. Like how old?

Jack: I don't know. I have an idea.

Cristina: Because I guess, I don't know. We'll see when they need it. I mean, maybe they're right and there is an apocalypse outside right now.

Jack: In the road, they would find cans.

Cristina: And still eat it.

Jack: And still eat it.

Cristina: Yeah, it's better than that. But how do you know that's realistic?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: I don't.

Jack: Also, if the road ever happened, I'd kill myself.

Cristina: Exactly. That's why that's not realistic.

Jack: Like who's gonna make it that far?

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Intentionally, like I wanna. For what? Just f****** die, bro.

Cristina: Yeah, that story's not realistic.

Jack: No. Everybody would just kill themselves.

Cristina: Exactly. There's no point. There's nothing left. There's nothing. You just die a slow long death.

Jack: Yeah. You're just playing a game of who's the last man standing.

Cristina: For what?

Jack: For no reason. Just to be. And you can't really tell if there's somebody else lasting longer.

Cristina: Exactly. Like if you are the last person, then what? What's your reward? What do you get?

Jack: You know what's funny? Never think about this, but in reality there's probably a couple of billionaires that really did stockpile enough and have like some facilities on the ground or s*** that they could still survive off of until they actually die of old age. But we don't see those people because we're just a normal guy's life after the apocalypse.

Cristina: Yeah, but that's probably like a real thing. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: It's probably like mad people still alive. He's just not around them or doesn't know how to reach them.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh crap. People living underground. Yeah. Another conspiracy is that doctors have been silenced from letting people know that the COVID is fake.

Jack: That. That's a complicated one because we heard about that a couple of times in a couple of ways.

Cristina: But were those fake news?

Jack: I don't know. Because there were doctors themselves that said they fired me for trying to put real information.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it happened a lot. There are 30, 40 doctors fired for like not willing to forge paperwork that said it was worse than it was. In some cases they got fired for not forging paperwork that said it wasn't as bad.

Cristina: It's hard to say. Yes, that's. Yes. But there's also crazy doctors who are like, there was that crazy one. I don't know how many doctors said this, but there was one specific that I remember that said that the mask wearing mask was bad for you. And was actually activating the covalent in you by wearing the mask.

Jack: I don't see how that would make sense.

Cristina: That was a real doctor, though. I guess so. I don't know if you could trust every doctor.

Jack: I mean, there's crazy people everywhere.

Cristina: Yes. So some doctors I like. How do you tell which one is like the crazy one or the one that's being honest about, like, hey, this. This strange thing is happening and I don't know what to do, so I'm sharing this.

Jack: I don't know, man. I don't know. It's real f***** up. Through a f***.

Cristina: So just to remind you of that.

Jack: Both sides of that. God, what is wrong with the world right now? Because everything is coming out in pairs. That's the problem. It's. Everything is so divided.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We get both arguments at the same time. Right. So we get it's not as bad. And I tried to tell people it wasn't as bad and I got fired and they suppressed all the data that I put together. Yeah, it's way worse. And they don't want me to tell you it's way worse. And there were way more bodies and I tried to put together the data and they fired me because they didn't want me to tell anybody. It was worse. Yeah, it's like, how the f*** did both of these things happen?

Cristina: Yeah. It's different countries, though. Like, I know the way worse ones, or I think they were from like China and Russia where two of them that were like, it's way worse than what they're saying.

Jack: But then in America turned out it wasn't China. Turned out it wasn't. That was United States lying about China.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: That was us bullshitting. Oh, that one turned out that it was a hundred percent the US Making crap up.

Cristina: Okay, but what about the Russia one? Was it Russia or German or one of those countries over there?

Jack: Russia's hitting it hard right now.

Cristina: Oh, okay. But they. They're lying about how hard.

Jack: Yeah, they're pretending it's not even happening.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay. So that. Yeah, yeah. And then here it's like we're same s***.

Jack: We're pretending it's not even happening. We're over it.

Cristina: Yeah, but there was a time that we were like, it's much higher than yes.

Jack: And now we swung the other way and no, it's nowhere near as bad. Yeah, we started at there's nothing happening. Then we swung to world is ending. And now we're swinging back to, no, there's nothing out there.

Cristina: Yeah, it's very confusing. We live in very confusing times. And the final one is that the coronavirus is made by the New World Order or something. I mean, I guess, like, whatever. The main bad guys of this story. Whoever it is.

Jack: Yeah, whoever. The shady shadows that run everything or whatever. Like cronies. Yeah, Satan's croony. People who just do his bidding or whatever. F***.

Cristina: And work in the government.

Jack: And religion.

Cristina: And religion. And celebrities. For some reason.

Jack: Deep State or whatever.

Cristina: Yes, Yep. Yeah, all that stuff.

Jack: I mean, because politics is Deep State. Then we got the Freemasons, which are religion. And then we have the Illuminati that are celebrities.

Cristina: Yeah. Well, all these parties are working together to make the COVID disclaimer.

Jack: The Illuminati is not involved. We take no charge and pick no signs.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We have nothing to do with any of this.

Cristina: We have nothing to do with any of this.

Jack: Anyways.

Cristina: Anyways.

Jack: We are running out of time.

Cristina: That was great.

Jack: It's just depressing.

Cristina: It's depressing. As much fake news as there been about what? Why Covid? There's been. I mean, as much conspiracies as there are for Covid, there are also for the vaccine itself. And also before the vaccine was made, there was also a bunch of fake news about what you can take because there's no vaccine. Like bleach, like crazy stuff like that.

Jack: Which people actually drank as f****** morons.

Cristina: Yes, yes. So I understand why the scientists are worried about fake news.

Jack: Because it's dangerous for people who are too stupid, which are a lot of people. The problem is scientists are also promoting bullshit.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Everybody's lying. And if you pick the side, you fell for a lie.

Cristina: That's the biggest problem, though. Everyone's lying. And even if someone is telling the truth, there's just. You're getting every side of the story and it's just too much. You can't see what's the real thing. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Jack: That's the way the state of the freaking world, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys want other episodes of this nature. If you enjoyed this conversation.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We have actually several episodes about coronavirus conspiracies and things with that.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Is there more than one of those?

Cristina: I feel like there's at least two coronavirus conspiracies. I know of how it started. I remember one about toilet paper.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And one about 5G.

Jack: Yeah. And there's like other stuff like apocalypse scenarios and junk like that, so you can find episodes.

Cristina: We also talked about aliens. I mean, aliens. We also talked about Artificial intelligence recently in one of your episodes about the dangers.

Jack: Yes. As a way to end the world as well. That's also something. Wow. Yeah, there's a lot of pot. We talked about the apocalypse a lot. I like that. I like that. We speculate the ending of the world. Anyways, you can find all that crap on greythoughts.info on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe and raid. And please review the show and tell other people to do that too.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. The most overpowered thing in the world. And the last thing you want is to not get the chance to tell somebody to listen to this show before the world ends. Let them know you love them and that you want to share an episode of this loving, caring, uniting podcast in.

Cristina: Case the world hasn't already ended. If it has ended, then too bad.

Jack: Yeah. You're already on the other side.

Cristina: If it hasn't, then you have 100 seconds.

Jack: Yeah. So go ahead. And it's about the amount of time that one episode takes, right?

Cristina: 100 seconds.

Jack: Yeah. It's a little more.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No, it could be 100 minutes.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Look, you. You will get a couple of minutes into a minute and a half. Minute and a little less. A little more than half. Right. Minute and forty seconds.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You can hear us, like, introduce the show.

Cristina: Almost. Almost.

Jack: Fair enough.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. Then there's Saint Lydwina, who is the saint for ice skaters. At 15, she fell while ice skating and fractured her ribs. She was left disabled for the rest of her life, and now she's the saint of ice skaters.

Jack: So her lack of achievements in ice skating because of simple mistakes that led to tragic, violent and debilitating accidents resulted in a terrible skater becoming the saint of skaters.

Cristina: To make sure no other skater goes through that.

Jack: Is she the saint of the fear of ice skating?

Cristina: I don't know. I just know she's the saint of ice skaters. Maybe the fear of ice skating as well. Who knows?

Jack: Ledwina with Lidwina, the girl who couldn't skate?

Cristina: Yes. That's what she's known for.

Jack: And then you pray to her and she helps you skate without her knowing.

Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.in fox art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister. With social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 115: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 2

Just Conversation, Politics, Election Fraud, New Year, Celebbration, Coronavirus, Aliens

Finishing our review of the slowest apocalypse ever, 2020.

The duo wrap up their studies of the ancient times of 2020. The good, the bad and the ugly are all wrapped up with a neat bow. As they do so, they remember the days before aliens ruled the world and days before the Mars Space station was a casual hangout for teens. Often referred to as “the good old days.”

Rambling 115: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 2

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  • Police Brutality
  • Police Reform
  • Lebanon Explosion
  • Unhealthy Americans
  • California Wildfires
  • Stronger Covid
  • Election Fraud
  • Aliens

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

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Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody. And as always, you pick up the first sharp object by you, and you walk casually towards them. Make sure they see you and the sharp object. And the sharp object. And mumble something to yourself. It doesn't have to be coherent. It just has to under your breath. Make sure they hear you mumbling on your way over, but they can't tell what it is you're saying. Anything. Say the ABCs to yourself. It's fine. On your way over to them. And when you finally get to them, you say, us two, we're gonna f****** listen to the Just Conversation podcast. I promise you, they won't say no.

Cristina: Are they trying to threaten this person or no? Is it supposed to look like they're threatening them without actually threatening them?

Jack: They're alluding to danger, although they're never saying there's danger.

Cristina: Yes. That's very Dennis. Dennis. That's very Dennis.

Jack: Yeah. Anyways, talking about getting all dark on people around you and death and whatnot. Today's episode we're following up on the 2020 recap we're doing. It's Been a Fun Year, the review from last year. So if you haven't heard the first part, be sure to do that. Go back, listen to the first five months of the year when s*** was serious and we just cross over to get f***** area.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where s***'s gonna get f*****. So we had just finished May in our recap, and that's when the shoe dropped hard. Following the death of George Floyd, a unarmed black man at the hands of a white police officer and four other, well, three other cops standing by doing nothing. This got recorded, and it was a very long video of a man begging for his life while slowly fading out of this plane of existence. And when we ended, we were at 6 million coronavirus cases.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So let's begin on June, June 2nd. Brooklyn PD. It's accused of corruption and abuse of power. Repeatedly. This time, they're caught on video after the protests broke out, after the country broke into protests, after Minneapolis had police try to solve their accusations of police brutality by using police brutality. This spread out to the rest of the country. And everywhere there were protests everywhere. Police also, police were trying to resort to the same measures. You're saying we here are also abusing our power. You're saying we're being brutal. Us, the cops, here to protect you. And as a result of trying to stop these false accusations caught on video, two police SUVs slammed into and drove through a crowd of protesters. Because this is America, and that's how you show them we're not brutal.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's not all the police run them over. You run them over.

Jack: Additionally, around this time, where s***'s hitting the fan pretty hard and race wars are essentially breaking out, I remember seeing a video of a guy in a truck who, I guess he had like a Trump flag or something, and he like flipped off some protesters that they pulled out behind them. They drove next to truck, got in front of the truck, slowed down the truck, ripped the guy out of the truck. I think he actually hit somebody with the truck. And then they got to the truck, they pulled the guy out of the truck, and they were on a bridge. They threw that guy off the bridge because that's where we are. I remember showing you that specifically the guy get pulled out of the truck and flung off a bridge. And then somehow he survived, which is way worse than had he died.

Cristina: But he. He hit someone before that too.

Jack: Yes, with the truck.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: He hit somebody with a truck. He already had like Maga flax on flags on his truck. And they just freaked out. A bunch of black people pulled him out, threw him over the bridge.

Cristina: And he lived.

Jack: And he lived. Which is way worse had he died. Great. Fantastic. End of the story. No, he fell off that bridge intervent. So that sucks. So, yeah, this is just day two. June 5th. The Buffalo riot police quit. Buffalo, New York riot police quit in protest of these. In protest of their abuse of power and in defense of some other cops. So your solution to being told you abuse your power is to quit. Which in reality, when that was being debated and discussed, the fact of it was investigations were being opened everywhere to.

Cristina: See that police are really abusing their power.

Jack: Any place that had a lot of accusations because now the country is calling for it. Look into all your cops. So they weren't idiots. They were like, not. We're out.

Cristina: Yeah, it's more about I. I got to do some things I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: They were just definitely like, I think my mom's calling. Yeah, she needs me right now. I can't be at work for a couple of months.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Oh no. The Covid's real now, guys. It hasn't been real until this very moment. But I gotta stay home now, you know, Safety of my family and all. June 6, this is where that other shoe dropping finally hits the ground. It's only been fought, it's been mid air Suspense. This entire time we've been watching it incrementally because the global protests erupt.

Cristina: Now the world, the world, the world is protesting. It leaked brutality.

Jack: Yeah, it leaked out of the country.

Cristina: Yeah, that was pretty amazing.

Jack: It's. It's on some whole other s***. It left the United States and hit everywhere else.

Cristina: Because it's happening everywhere else as well. This problem, this police brutality thing. It's not just the cops here.

Jack: And as this is happening in the rest of the world, the US is leading the movement. So we're always. It began so Minneapolis had the first death, then they had the first protest. Then the protests spread everywhere else. When Minneapolis evolved into rioting against the police, into a mini war, then the rest of the country, the protest spread to the rest of the world. And now all the other places that police tried to solve with more brutality on top of the accusations, now those places are starting to have an uprising against the cops. This is where things got weird for a couple of weeks. It got really complicated in June, but it began in June 6th when this s*** really started happening where the entire country not just protest, but riots. And not just riots, but good guys on both sides, or both good guys on the good side, and two different factions of bad guys, all in some sort of guerrilla warfare happening in major cities all over the country. We got people in New York City, both good police officers and protesters uniting entirely, uniting against corrupt departments supporting abusive behavior. So they're coming together, they're standing. This is a great line that's being drawn right now because we get videos of police officers taking knees with protesters walking hand in hand, marching down the streets. And we have other videos of police officers plowing through people, shooting them, tear gassing them, pulling out lethal weaponry on people, assaulting people who aren't even part of the protests. Like the kids who were just driving out of college. So crazy there's a war happening and you got to pick a side. But s*** kept getting crazy. And this is where we have the curfews getting established throughout the United States. Not even related to the COVID because businesses were closing. But you weren't obligated to stay at home. That was an advisory. Now being outside is illegal.

Cristina: That has to do with the protest.

Jack: That was with the protest. People were being. It was that crazy. In major cities, people were being sent home at a certain time about 8pm and you had to do it.

Cristina: You have to go home to stop you from protesting.

Jack: Stop the protesters and stop the rioting and stop the looting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And stop the dangerous behavior between the cops and the protesters. It got really crazy. And arrests at random and attacks on peaceful protesters. And by riot police. This is done by riot police throughout that whole time. So they just got more vicious after the curfews were put. Basically. Martial law was established in June.

Cristina: Yeah. Is that the same month where we were getting weird videos about what police were doing? Like some of them were dressing up and pretending to be protesters. Some of them were putting. What are those? Bricks. Bricks everywhere.

Jack: Yes, all of that. They were stacking bricks together. They were breaking windows while dressed like protesters and s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All that is the same. Because now they're trying to do their own more. Hey man, you're getting negative attention on us. And this should not you we're gonna get negative attention on. And TIFA was just the racist cops. Just the racist cops trying to frame the protesters and have a reason to be violent against them. But that didn't last long because June 7, footage of off duty officers out of uniform looting and torching properties surface. And that's where we get to see these videos.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And see that when you pull their mask off, it turns out that guy's a f****** officer.

Cristina: Like the ending of Scooby Doo.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You take off the mask. Like what?

Jack: And who found out it was the f****** meddling kids.

Cristina: It was the meddling kids. Whoa.

Jack: Towards the end of June 7, we started getting the videos of police arresting police. I saw some really weird s*** that day. Particularly the cops that broke into a store fully in uniform to beat the crap out of protesters. To then have other cops enter behind them, draw their guns on the original cops to walk in, tell them to put the gun. Because they were about. The cops who went in first were just gonna shoot unarmed people. That was their goal. Then the second wave of cops walked into the store as well. And their. Nope, put your s*** down. And they started arresting each other.

Cristina: That was f****** complicated. Yeah.

Jack: Cops arresting cops. It got really weird. We had cops talking bad about cops. Cops out high ranking cops discharging people. There was a white cop snapping out some innocent protester who had no weapons. Being common everything. And his senior came up and Told him, you're f******. Get the f*** out of here. And that's caught on video. Just this lady walks up. His senior was a woman who just walked up and is like, get out. You're off of it.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: And so we had a lot of that.

Cristina: This is when they talk of no more police or that's a little later.

Jack: This is the month where that conversation. It began early and it started to take form as the month went along. And around the 22nd, we get a. From the CDC and the WHO that the. The band the WHO, CDC and the band, the who. We get told that more than 80% of cases in March might have gone undetected. Because now we find out you don't necessarily show symptoms if you have it.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Because now we're starting to get testing in hospitals and things in Mass, and we're finding out, holy crap. There are many, many, many people who have no symptoms. This has already escaped our control. It is God knows who has it. And that's complicated because as we close the month, we've only pretty much been testing people who have either gone to get tested or gone to the hospital at this point. And we've hit that number globally at 10 million by the end of June.

Cristina: 10 million. Which last month, 6 million.

Jack: Yes. So we roughly doubled up. A little less than doubled up. That's how we end June. But then July comes, a relatively tame month. Things don't really happen.

Cristina: Probably more still talks about what to do with those cops.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Like police reform becomes a new thing. Besides just getting rid of them. How about we just change the system?

Jack: Yeah. Because of the amount of protesting. That became one of the main things we had to do. And the protesting had not stopped. It will not stop. It's kind of still going on right now, 20, 21. It's never stopped. That ball got started and it's still f****** rolling. There's a place that's had a little over, like, five months of protest straight since they began.

Cristina: Good.

Jack: Fair enough. But, yeah, so that's definitely around July. It starts to take place in New York City, particularly, where they start to actually implement some of these things.

Cristina: Actually. They actually did.

Jack: Yeah. They start firing police officers and they start starting with the people who killed George Floyd. They're starting to get punished. But now they cases are opened everywhere and they're flipping over this law. They've brought up the law that allows paperwork to always be hidden from the public relative to cops and junk.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So now that's immediately got moved to the top main court. S***. And now it's being debated whether we should get rid of this because it is definitely allowing abuse of power.

Cristina: Definitely.

Jack: So that's all being discussed. And we come to July 7. US surpasses 3 million infections WHO withdraw. So we're just like, you guys don't know what you're doing. Because we know what we're doing. Like, any help is better than no help.

Cristina: No. We have the vice president. He takes charge.

Jack: He takes charge.

Cristina: He's gonna protect us.

Jack: He is better than the ban.

Cristina: The who. Science knowledge.

Jack: Hey, who knows how much science knowledge? He's probably a closeted scientist. Studied all the things, of course. Who. Who do you trust more to deal with the virus? The vice president or the band? The who. Right. Okay.

Cristina: Fair enough.

Jack: See how that works? You think, like, I guess they mean chill music, but, like, do they know chemistry? And it's like, even if Pence doesn't.

Cristina: Know chemistry, he's got the Space Force on his side.

Jack: He does.

Cristina: They could help.

Jack: He's already sort of science y. Yeah, Space Force. Now Covid, it seems like he's at least staying in the sciences.

Cristina: Such weird jobs.

Jack: The most religious guy any of us know is who got put in charge of science.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Crazy. He's going to pray at it. He's going to pray at it. But July 9, things escalate a little more. And it's because in Florida and in Texas, there's regions that people were catching it the entire time, but there were groups of people who were actually staying at home en masse. And those people started getting into the hospital with COVID What was going on? Well, they sent some teams out there to start investigating and checking out what the h***'s happening, because these are rural places where, like, people weren't going anywhere. A lot of them are seniors, and they're just staying home to be safe. But it turns out the virus went airborne. It mutated, and now there's an airborne strain in the South.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: And that kind of throws a wrench in all the plans, because how do you hide from something that's going to catch you in your house, whether or not you're around people?

Cristina: But it can't just go into your house, can it? It's not like traveling into houses, is it?

Jack: But, like, on its own, you can't leave the inside of your home, even to your own property, because Air.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Someone who has it might have walked by, and then it's just there hanging out.

Jack: And that doesn't help that we're having some of the craziest wind, which is problematic.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: S*** gets weird. So, yeah, now it's airborne. And by. We end July with an airborne virus at 17 million cases global.

Cristina: Whaat.

Jack: What's interesting about this is the numbers are going down. We're not doubling up anymore. The numbers are already huge, so every time we. 0.5, it's still kind of excessive, but the amount it's spreading is still going down. Interesting enough collectively, like, we're no longer double each time, even if way more people have it. We're definitely based on the numbers figuring it out. Even if it looks like there's a bunch of a******* not following rules or whatever.

Cristina: There's enough doing the right thing.

Jack: There's enough doing the right thing. Yeah. And then we enter August. This is a weird one, because s*** gets complicated pretty quickly. So we begin August and immediately with a bang. Yes, with a bang.

Cristina: Hey, like January, sort of.

Jack: Yeah, kind of. Sometimes months start with a bang. And the particular bang here on August 4th was also on August 4th, by the way. Two bangs on the 4th of two different months.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Interesting. Okay, also, side note, every president who doesn't show up to another president's inauguration has John in their name. Just saying. Just a weird fact about life.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's spitting gems. Here's a gem for you. Every president that's ever not gone to the inauguration of another president has been in some manner, shape, or form, had the name John. Had the name John.

Cristina: But there have been Johns who have been there.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: All the ones that didn't go were John. Were John. Okay.

Jack: And that is Donald. Yes, Donald John Trump. I thought it was Junior until I looked this up.

Cristina: How would you think? Why didn't he. Him naming his child Junior wouldn't make sense. You don't name your child Junior if you're a Junior Canopy.

Jack: The second third would be Junior. The third. There you go.

Cristina: Yeah, but his name is Junior.

Jack: His first name.

Cristina: No, it's Donald Junior, Isn't it? Don Junior, they always call him. Yeah, but is Donald junior?

Jack: Yeah, they don't have to say the third, but he would be. Anyways. Not the point. So the Beirut explosion in Lebanon, that.

Cristina: Was in August 4th.

Jack: Yes, on August 4th. The Beirut explosion in Lebanon, which was two consecutive explosions. One was relatively tame, which got all the cameras out. People started looking and whatever. And then the second one went off, which played a little like a nuke.

Cristina: It looks like, when you see it.

Jack: Yeah. Mushroom cloud and everything.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And it cleared out a giant. It destroyed Beirut root. It got Wrecked pretty badly and killed over 190 people and injured more than 6,000. Windows for miles broken, popped no more windows. Buildings in the immediate vicinity.

Cristina: No more buildings.

Jack: No more buildings. They cease to exist. They have been removed from this universe.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: F****** nuts. And due to. It's due to unsecure tons. Tons. Almost 3,000 tons of ammonium nitrogen stored in hangars in the city's port.

Cristina: Yep. That they totally forgot about or something. Yeah.

Jack: They were like, it's fine here. Nobody said s*** for the last couple of years. It's totally fine. Ignored it. And boom. Then boom. S*** got real. That's how we started the year. A nuke style catastrophe.

Cristina: That was a pretty crazy explosion. Just to watch it. And then all the conspiracies about that and like was it a nuke or was it a bomb from somewhere else or what is. You know. No one wanted to believe what it was.

Jack: Nobody wanted to believe it was what it was. Then August 12th, we find out that severe obesity increases mortality risk from COVID which explains why it spreads like wildfire in the United States. Predominantly in major cities where the unhealthy McDonald's lovin, KFC loving, obese, diabetic, cancerous heart disease, having high blood pressure, having way too much sugar, having no exercise and I'm not gonna eat anything minorly green people live. And so it becomes way apparent why we're doing way worse than the rest of the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's because we're unhealthy as f***. And it predominantly kills unhealthy people. It began on the elderly. That was how it began.

Cristina: Oh yeah. We didn't mention that. But yes.

Jack: But then as many mutations kept happening, it shifted and it landed on fat people. Fat people. People with. Because it took a while to get to fat people though. It went through smokers. There's a strain that attacks smokers. But there's a strain that if you're a smoker, you're less likely to get what. That's a f******. There was a strain that gives you heart problems. There's one that only affects you if you have heart problems.

Cristina: There was one that was attacking children.

Jack: There was one that was attacking children. There was one that was particularly dangerous for diabetics. So many different strains just mutates any f****** chance it gets. It's f****** crazy. But whatever. So we find that out and then on the 17th, COVID 19, now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. somehow we've still managed to out drive Covid. Right. Is that the other what are the other two?

Cristina: I like. The other one is, like, accidentally falling into something, like something really retarded.

Jack: 5 Ways to Die Us. Oh, s***. So heart disease, then cancer, then Covid.

Cristina: I thought accidents.

Jack: I thought accidents were number one, but it's number three. Yeah, I thought accidents, but I guess I'm wrong. So heart disease, then cancer, and now Covid. Then Covid. Interesting. Covid's a strong runner.

Cristina: I really thought accidents was gonna be up there. It is up there, but it's not.

Jack: It's up there. Not worse than Covid. We're not out here trying to fight heart disease with everything we've got. We're not out here trying to fight cancer with everything we've got. We definitely came up with an immediate vaccine for Covid, though. Rich people got threatened. That's why when rich people get scared, they. They do whatever the f*** they need to. Money goes into everything. But if it's like they're making fat people decisions, they're. Of course you're gonna have heart problems.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But you can educate them. No, no, no. That wastes my money. But now there's a plague that might get to you. Oh, no. That requires my money. Yeah, so that's how that works. So, yeah, Covid becomes the third leading cause, right behind cancer and heart disease. And then on the 19th, Trump was asked about QAnon at a press conference. QAnon? The people who brought you Epstein's Island?

Cristina: Yes. The people who are trying to protect the world from pedophiles. Evil predo. Pedophile.

Jack: Reptilian, Illuminati. Pedophiles who drink children blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is conflicting because. Are they raping the kids or are they harvesting the kids?

Cristina: I think they're doing both.

Jack: They're raping them and to scare them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you take their blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oh, so they're vampires.

Cristina: Yes, they're vampires.

Jack: They break in.

Cristina: They're shape shifting vampires. Blood sucking. Yeah, they're vampires.

Jack: Yeah. Kind of fits. Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But when asked about it and whether he supports them, and they explain that these are crazy conspiracy theorists. Not to say they're actually crazy. This is what the media said. I think these people do know what they're talking about to some degree. They're kind of crazy. Don't get me wrong. They're out of f****** minds. But they're not wrong. They're misguided. They are too passionate about something they've not looked deep in enough to like. They haven't done the work.

Cristina: They're disconnecting things they're being told by.

Jack: Some omniscient other douchebag.

Cristina: What's going on?

Jack: What's going on? They're like, well, let's go. Let's do fear. F****** Q is good. He knows the truth. And it's like, okay, look, some of this stuff is true, but you guys are idiots about your approach, and you're not well informed on how it's true. You're just assuming how it's true.

Cristina: Yes. And then I saw videos of a lady who went to a store where the masks were and she destroyed it for QAnon. She destroyed the mask display.

Jack: Makes sense.

Cristina: Masks are killing us.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, They've laced our masks with things that make us stupid or something.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And so, yeah, when told about this, Trump was like, I don't know. I don't even know how to make an impression. I don't know. I don't know much about the movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate, but I don't know much about the movement.

Cristina: I don't. He sounds evil. He sounds like Batman.

Jack: Hey, he does sound like Batman.

Cristina: I'm not sure.

Jack: And then on August 28th, first known case of COVID re infection reported in the US a person who was cleared and seems to have not have it anymore now has it again, which means you don't stay immune for long.

Cristina: So then what about all these vaccine things? Will they help out if you can just get it again or. It's like the flu, you get it every year.

Jack: Well, assuming that it doesn't work anywhere near as powerful as that, and that your immunity fades after a couple of months, just two or three as it seems. That's really a temporary measure. The goal would be have enough supply. Vaccinate your entire population. The virus has nowhere to go. Isolate those that still have it, vaccinate them, eradicate it. Like smallpox.

Cristina: Will never be that organized.

Jack: We've done it before.

Cristina: Okay, like smallpox.

Jack: Just a matter of doing it right.

Cristina: Until there were ladies who decided their children doesn't need the smallpox vaccine.

Jack: And then it spread all over again, so. Cuz.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: We did it because. Essential oils. Why not? It's those people. Anyways, we close this month off with 25 million cases. Still slowing down. Now we're what, less than one third up? It's way less than before. Numbers are still coming down. But here's what's funny. Everywhere else in the world, they're slowing down.

Cristina: In the US it's growing.

Jack: Most of that increase is just us. That's where it starts to get really complicated. Because us continues to grow exponentially while other places are successfully lowering in town. Enter September. We're long past the January, February, March inferno that Australia was dealing with. It was horrendous. It was awful. But we got through it. We got rid of it. They're gone. We're free. You guys get to rest. It's finally done. You guys can go back home. All you firefighters from California that came to help you get to go home. You Australian firefighters who made it through, you're good. Oh my God, there's a fire in California. We gotta go home to fight a fire also. You Australians, come with us. We need you. Enter the actual worst fire in the planet's history.

Cristina: The California fire.

Jack: Yes. The fast moving bear fire, which was propelled by apparently lightning strikes and 45 mile an hour winds that spread that b**** the f*** out in an hour. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That was f****** crazy. Burned a hillside by the Bidwell Bar Bridge. The fire tore through 230,000 acres in one 24 hour period. That s*** is not f****** around. That wind was not f****** around. Nevertheless, that wind was followed by a giant cool chill.

Cristina: Then other wildfires spread across California, reaching Oregon and Washington.

Jack: Yes, the craziest part about these are that they weren't even lightning strikes or anything of that nature. It was literal embers. Giant. The winds were so strong they carried over still lit embers that were giant chunks enough to not go out on their travel across state lines.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Land in a different forest and ignite that s***. What?

Cristina: What?

Jack: That's crazy. That's the one that happened in Washington. Yeah, it just flew across from California, landed there and boom, now you're on fire too. So the f****** planets burning at this point. United States is on fire. One of the largest fire or the largest fire in history. We're talking we just lost the Amazon and Australia and somehow. Yeah, let it, let it all burn. All of it. God's like I said once, I wouldn't drown the world. And so he's fair setting it on fire.

Cristina: Because he didn't promise that.

Jack: Okay, yeah, he didn't promise no fire. That was his favorite to start with. Think about it. Saddam and Gomorrah drop that f****** fire from the sky. F*** these people. That's how you do it. Extinguish m************. But yeah, so that's how the f*** that went. And collectively it destroyed so many f****** homes and burned through at least 2.5 million acres in California.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: One of those fires I don't know if it was during that month or later on where the. They were trying to do a child's rebuke. A baby sex reveal party thing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Gender reveal.

Cristina: Gender reveal, that's the word.

Jack: But it's wrong. It's. Sex reveal is the right one.

Cristina: Oh, well. Anyway. And that started a fire.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz white people in fireworks America. Yeah, that's what happens. I hope they enjoy jail.

Cristina: Like you know what's happening in California. And then you do that. Though that should be illegal, shouldn't it?

Jack: I think it is illegal.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. You're expecting too much from people who don't think a lot. They should know more. Yes, Most people should know more. Most people don't know more. People are inherently stupid. Those people are a prime example of white privilege.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Moving on. September 23rd, a new, more contagious strain of COVID is discovered. Because that's how the story goes.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Before we had airborne. Now the previous original one that arrived has a strain which can fight most of the things in your immune system. Now you're more likely to catch it.

Cristina: Nice.

Jack: And that's to say the airborne strain is now popping up in a lot more places. It's either moving because people are traveling with it, or other strains are evolving to be airborne as well.

Cristina: Yeah, that could be awesome.

Jack: Which is problematic because vaccines come around. Do they work on all the strains?

Cristina: That is the big question that we gotta find out.

Jack: Big question. And then the global COVID deaths surpass 1 million. We have 1 million deaths of COVID landing the end of September with a total number of cases reported at 33 million. A million deaths, though still slowing down gradually. More and more, it's just crawling to a halt. Then we get to October.

Cristina: The first hornet nest is discovered in America. And it was destroyed. It was in Washington state.

Jack: Yes, yes.

Cristina: The Nest had 800 workers and nearly 200 queens were produced from that single nest.

Jack: And there's a soon to be more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we're just on the hunt for them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. So that's October for you. We have on October 2nd, Trump and the first lady test positive for COVID 19 and Trump enters the hospital. On October 5th, Trump leaves the hospital but continues receiving treatment. By October 8th, the White House had a Covid outbreak that reached 34 staff members.

Cristina: Ridiculous. Did he do that? I think he did that.

Jack: He just went back home and spread it to everybody. So as we are reaching the end of October, the flooding that was happening earlier in the year hasn't stopped. Yet.

Cristina: But flooding from India and Nepal.

Jack: Yeah. And as that's finally coming to a close, or not coming to close, but falling lower than it was before, people start calculating the destruction which got excessive because the river resulted in the death of. The river's flooding resulted in the death of 189 people and left over 4 million homeless in India and Nepal, all by the end of October. They were living a separate kind of h*** on top of the fact that they were dealing with the virus in that whole time.

Cristina: 4 million homeless.

Jack: Ah, what End of times. And then we end October with a total infection count of 45 million. But if you notice, that was a.

Cristina: Little bit of a jump there from 33 to 45.

Jack: Now we're over 1/4 gain when we were only just a little. I guess we've been doing about 1/4 for a while now. Okay, fair enough. But we go into November then getting. Getting close to the end here, the end of days, and we enter November and, you know, we have a crazy presidential campaigning and debating and stuff. And then finally on November 3rd is.

Cristina: Oh, before we talk about the elections, I do want to mention a little bit about the Deb. Just one thing. My favorite thing that I probably already talked about, but come on, come on. Trump talks about Biden's plans to replace the windows. No, to destroy buildings and then rebuild them to make little windows.

Jack: Tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows.

Jack: He wants have all the buildings with tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows. Yep. He wants to destroy all of them, replace them just with tinier windows. That's the evil thing.

Jack: Also, Pence became Lord of the Flies.

Cristina: Yes. That was a huge thing, too. That fly was a star in those debates.

Jack: Yes. People love it. He's the most celebrity ever existed.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: It's the most famous. The only thing more famous than Trump is that fly.

Cristina: Yes. No. November 3rd, the election day happens, and.

Jack: It'S an excruciating day with battles and swords and guns and tanks rolling on the street, missiles dropped.

Cristina: The date like, it lasted three days, four days.

Jack: Well, people were waiting to see how the count happens, which didn't end because many, many more votes way under prepared. November 4th, Trump, he claims that the results are bullshit. That because he ended, obviously. Okay, so the process goes that you begin counting the first ballots that were walking and then you count the ballots that were mailed in. This applies this way to most states. Trump almost exclusively told his people to vote through ballots in person.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: While Biden told everybody to stay f****** home and vote from their house. So the ones that are counted first.

Cristina: Are Trump's are Trump's votes. So his numbers get higher.

Jack: So his numbers get higher. Exactly. They have to be higher because you told everybody to vote in person and the states vote in person. Trump's original goal was to have himself declared president by the end of the first day, to completely exclude any mail in balance. But he found that incredibly difficult because it's illegal and you're gonna go to jail if you do that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that plan got flushed down the toilet, and then propaganda had to come into play, which is where he comes in and tells people that it's bullshit that I'm losing because I was winning yesterday. Yes, but you should have told people to vote by mail, because anybody who was like, I'm not voting by mail. It's crooked, but was too lazy to come in is a vote you lost.

Cristina: And he wants them to recount the.

Jack: Votes and stuff in many, many places that recounted by their own Republicans.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And turned out it wasn't fraud.

Cristina: And also, he has this crazy conspiracy that counting votes turn you evil, which I don't understand. Like, if they're turning you evil, why would you trust the next people to count the votes if the counting's gonna turn those people evil?

Jack: What's fascinating is that the exact same process took place in the previous election.

Cristina: Well, they were all evil. Yeah.

Jack: Because it worked in his favor. He was cool with it.

Cristina: Yes. Once it wasn't. Yeah.

Jack: And that's how that goes. So that's crazy. That happens for a while. And we. We get in the same day that the fourth, where he's over here like, no, this is all bullshit. I secretly won, and they're trying to steal it from me. The United States also reports that the daily coronavirus cases have surpassed a hundred thousand in the country collectively. So we're getting 100,000 cases daily in the country.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And so eventually, Thanksgiving is cancelled.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people can't go anywhere. You're not allowed to have Thanksgiving. It's canceled. No more. Thanksgiving is legal. But nobody listens and goes and gathers anyways in mass. Many, many, many, many, many people gather in mass. And slowly but surely, s*** gets out of hand and we close the month. With Trump continuing to reject the election results, of course, unendingly, and just claiming it's all fraud. And November closes with a count of 62 million infections global.

Cristina: That's. How much more than 45 is that getting?

Jack: We're getting close to doubling up. All right, this is one. It's plus one half. So we're over 25% now. Now we're doing plus half. Yeah. So we're. That. That's entirely due that jump. That's Thanksgiving right there.

Cristina: That's Thanksgiving.

Jack: People are f****** idiots.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then finally, we hit December, where things get kind of weird. So, December 9, in his bid to overturn the election, the. A bunch of documents and crap are rushed over to the Supreme Court to try to overthrow the decision of the voting and whatever. But it's all rejected. Some of it justly, some of it unjustly. Ironically enough, at some point, they literally stop looking at the cases coming in. And I'm sorry, but it's your job.

Cristina: To look at that.

Jack: To look at the cases coming in.

Cristina: That's your only job.

Jack: That's your only job. You supposed to look at cases. Now you're starting to look crooked because you're just preemptively deciding it's a lie. And look, it doesn't matter if a million of them were. If the millionth and one is true.

Cristina: We need to know.

Jack: We need to know. So you better be looking at all these f****** cases, not deciding. I'm tired of looking at these cases.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He could propose a billion of them, and you look through every single f****** one. That's why you're there. You're not gonna do your job then leave your f****** post and let somebody who's gonna go do it be there because you're clearly not getting the point.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's problematic in this time. Videos of people taking ballots from under tables showed up. Some of them were disproved, some of them were proved. Some of them were disproved as fraudulent because the containers were right. They were just under a table, and they keep them stored. But the behavior that surrounded the circumstance was particularly weird, in which everybody was told to. They were done, and then these people brought more ballots without supervision and continued to do everything. Now, in the video that shows this particular incident, you see the containers, right? The way they're counting looks right. Everything seems to be right, with the exception that only three people were left in the building, and the reporters and the vote and the poll watchers were all gone. They thought counting was over because the people said, we're not gonna count anymore. You could stay, but we're not gonna count. And everybody left. And then they kept counting without supervision. Now, on camera, we can't see them screening these themselves, but there's nothing really stopping us from missing how they're doing it effectively in front of a camera. That's really weird that they would continue to count after all supervision is gone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's a very strange thing. That is one of I believe three identical videos of the sort. Most of the accused frauds are irrational things that a normal person can just debunk themselves. Including the one that there were a lot of ballots kept or lost by the post office. Which is stupid because if that was the case, over 80% of all ballot votes were for Biden because he told people to vote by ballot and Trump told his not to. So if there were votes missing, which I don't believe that there was a giant landslide difference between their voting count. You're telling me that Biden won by more. If they were missing. That doesn't really fit. I do think it was way closer. If there was fraud, it wasn't significant enough to make change. And if there was, it would be in favor of Biden. Which is weird argument to have.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That the fraud, the poster service failed us inside. You mean the people who were bringing in the left votes. What a weird argument to have.

Cristina: You need an argument though.

Jack: You need an argument. I guess it doesn't work though. It's very, very not thought out. Not to say I do believe there's fraud. There's always fraud. There's never not fraud in an election. But that fraud isn't this crazy thing that they think it's. If there's fraud, it's way more intricate and the normal person wouldn't understand how complicated the systems that led to successfully committing fraud are. That's why the mass who are pretending they have the capacity to understand what informed individuals who strategically planned in privacy how to execute fraudulent tasks in secrecy legally so that it's all through the books except getting caught. That's the only time it becomes illegal. So it's all by the books. You're not supposed to understand. If you believe you understand. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is no exception to that rule. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is fraud. No question. And I'm sure because of how bad the system hates Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That there is strategic.

Cristina: They're just the tide of him.

Jack: Yeah. I'm so sure it was planned to get him out. I'm also sure it was done by means that would be too complicated. If it was illegal. It's too complicated for you to understand how it's illegal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Whatever you think you figured out is a lie. You're an idiot. You just believe in some bullshit. And if it wasn't done illegally, it was orchestrated legally with the help of many people, many lobbyists, many people with money and Deepak as trying to get a madman losing the money out of office.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So regardless, I'm on the side of that didn't happen. It wasn't legal by any means. I do believe illegal fraud happened, but it's not what other people think happened. Would Trump have won? I'm not sure. I feel like he's created and he's generated enough hate.

Cristina: It's really hard to tell that.

Jack: Yeah, I think it would have been close anyways. I don't think there's a landslide in Biden's favor. I don't think that's right. I think it was pretty close. But whatever people think is the fraud your fault, if it could stay on the Internet, clearly it wasn't well executed. You're just falling down rabbit holes. That's all it is. And if you're falling down rabbit holes, I highly recommend you educate yourself because you are not the most informed individual. It is important to get factual information.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And in December 14, finally, the electoral College, which are the most corrupt part of the entire election process because. Corruption, period. Their concept is corrupt. They finally choose Joe Biden as president. They affirm he is the president elect for a fact.

Cristina: That's the end of that until. What is it the end of June or something? Is it next up?

Jack: No, it's January.

Cristina: Oh, January.

Jack: January 20th.

Cristina: 20Th. Okay. And then in December, what everyone's been waiting for aliens. That's what everyone before December came predicted. It would be aliens. And it was aliens. We're told that aliens are real.

Jack: Aliens are real. And they have been real.

Cristina: They have been real. And it was from a former Israel space security chief called Haim Eshed. I think that's how you pronounce it. He said that the Galactic Federation has been waiting for us to reach the stage where we will understand what space and spaceships are, which I feel like we're there, but whatever. They're still waiting. But they don't think we're ready for them. Not yet. So there must be something about spaceship technology that we haven't figured out. I guess we can't maybe warp speed.

Jack: No, man. We can't even, like, reach our moon quickly. Yeah. Definitely has to be some speed threshold because we're just not just bound to our planet, but we're so bound to our planet, it's theoretical, that we can get to Mars. That's a planet over. We haven't figured it out.

Cristina: It's theoretical. Figured it figured out. Then maybe they'll be like, hey, we're.

Jack: Here, I think, truly exploring Our star system is where they show up, which is nowhere near. I think that's the moment that they show themselves, when we have the ability to easily traverse space. And not like it's taking us mad years to cross space, but, like, we can. Hey, I'm going on vacation for the weekend. I'm headed to Mars.

Cristina: That would be awesome. Well, the aliens are curious about us and are seeking to understand the fabric of the universe. The aliens are scientists. I guess that's.

Jack: That's the only way that would happen.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. Also, they have an underground base in Mars where American astronauts and aliens are hanging out.

Jack: So we've already been to Mars.

Cristina: Yep. I guess we. Yes. So there's some other space technology that we haven't figured out since we're already in Mars. I guess.

Jack: See, I was on board with this guy, and then you say that part, and I'm like.

Cristina: Why would this guy say that?

Jack: He ruined it. He ruined the illusion.

Cristina: Well, the U.S. government and the aliens signed a contract so that they could do experiments here. So I guess they agree with the aliens abducting us and all those stories.

Jack: I mean, I doubt they're abducting us.

Cristina: And also, President Donald Trump knows about it, and he's been. He's been wanting to let us know, but has been asked not to do it, not to tell us because of mass hysteria. And I guess that's good enough for him. He's like, yeah, I won't.

Jack: I'm super sure he doesn't know, because that's the biggest lie. If he knew, we'd all know.

Cristina: He'd be hinting to it.

Jack: He wouldn't even be hinting to it. He would flat out just tell us, Adam. Sheer amazement.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He would be like, holy f***, people. Aliens.

Cristina: Yep. I'm the best president. I let you know. Aliens.

Jack: You wouldn't have gotten this from Obama.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. And that's pretty much it. That we know about the aliens. It's just that they're waiting for us to learn about space and spaceships, even though we have the technology to be on Mars already and have a space station there already. I guess.

Jack: Yeah, apparently.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people trolling, decided it would be funny to put monoliths everywhere, everywhere and make them disappear.

Cristina: Monoliths all over the place.

Jack: Put in, people, find them, take them down. Then people like, whoa, where to go, bro?

Cristina: Yeah. And they thought that was aliens, but no way. I saw one that was made out of gingerbread.

Jack: That's fantastic. And the same one that came from one place showed up in the other was identical. Yeah, and then they found out, oh, we can remove it.

Cristina: We are the aliens.

Jack: We are the aliens. We're being trolled by an artist. I forgot the artist's name. But yeah, it was an artist Rendi, not a rendition. It was just a performance art thing. And so also in December, vaccines, the quickest round of vaccine development in history has taken place because rich people are scared to die. So they funded anything I'm promising you. Not only is it already likely that we have the cure to AIDS and cancer and like dying, but like if we don't, rich people can fund the f*** out of it and like get it done overnight. Like realistically, it would be a breeze. There's just no motivation. Yeah, you need cancer because you make money off of the medication for cancer. But if a plague of cancer was ravaging that couldn't be cured and it's exclusively killing rich people, tomorrow you'd have the solution to that problem. Tomorrow it would be done tomorrow.

Cristina: And then we saw a bunch of videos of doctors who were getting the vaccine but weren't really getting.

Jack: Oh yeah, the vaccine was already approved and people were taking it on TV to promote that it's healthy and safe. And the doctors that made the vaccine weren't really getting it. Those needles weren't piercing their skin or anything.

Cristina: Yep. Suspicious.

Jack: Very.

Cristina: What is it?

Jack: Very, very. That includes the doctors that made it and Nancy Pelosi.

Cristina: What? How dare she.

Jack: Who also faked getting a f****** vaccine. Additionally, Christmas was cancelled and as a result everybody went to their families houses anyways and prepare for this next explosive wave.

Cristina: Also Santa Claus, they, they let everyone know that Santa Claus doesn't have to worry about COVID because he's immune. Oh yeah, he's immune to Covid.

Jack: Yeah, because he's the God of the elves or something. Is that what he is? He's the God of the elves, Right? Some s*** like that. Yeah. So that's pretty much the year we end December with a total of 80 million global cases. So that's fun.

Cristina: That's fun.

Jack: It's always exciting ending the year on a high note. Get it? High note. But yeah. Quick summary out of. Due to climate change, there were 41 total disasters around the world. Around the world. Of which 8, 18 were in the US. This includes wildfires, hurricanes, typhoons. Five storms made landfall in Louisiana this hurricane season. Yep.

Cristina: Breaking the state record for the most strikes in a single season.

Jack: Yes, there were 30 main storms and.

Cristina: Three of the four fires in California were the biggest they ever Had.

Jack: Yep. And pollution decline in major cities. But it was short lived because eventually we got bored and came back up.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. It didn't really matter. The driving less and flying less helped a little for a little while, but.

Jack: But it is what it is. That's how we. That was. That was 2020. That was we. And we're all still here. The work. The world didn't end.

Cristina: It got better. The future's now. We have space travel, a base in Mars.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Last episode you said we do we already go to Mars actually. So this makes sense. That guy was telling the truth.

Jack: Yeah, I guess he was always right. Yeah, he was just revealing secrets that he shouldn't have revealed at that time. And now he's gonna get Epstein'd by other people. But that's cool.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because he's talking. He's talking too much. They know he can't be trusted. Yeah. That's a 2020 right there for you.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: An exciting year.

Cristina: See what 2021 brings.

Jack: That being said, things that didn't even get mentioned on list is the fact that police were in fact removed en masse from New York City. Eventually that led to a mass spike in crime. And a couple of other cities also tried the same thing. Crime rates over the roof, specifically gun related assaults and murders skyrocketed. We had many civil wars all over the country.

Cristina: We destroyed statues.

Jack: Yes. We knocked down statues in the name of civil rights, which was just the government's way to distract us from the fact that there were civil rights problems happening. And by redirecting everybody's focus towards the statues. People feel like they accomplish things if they agree to remove statues and don't really have to change the police forces. Which seems to be exactly what's happening now that after the statues became the focus, Police department stopped being disbanded.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So pretty much more of the same in that angle. Companies all lined with somebody left or right. Somebody picked the side, whatever. Everybody flocked like crazy to. What the f*** is it called? The Parlor. To the Parlor app. Because Twitter and Facebook are shills.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, pretty much. 2020.

Cristina: 2020.

Jack: So yeah, this was the review. The just conversation. Rambling review.

Cristina: Yes. So Happy New Year's. Although I said it last episode, so I can't say it now.

Jack: I like how that sounds. Rambling review. That was the rambling review of 2020.

Cristina: Yes. That's how we start off the year.

Jack: Yeah. That's how. That's how we got here, man. That was just the history of how the we got here.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, I Hope you guys made it with us. I hope you guys are here with us, alive and good and well. If you want to hear the first part of this episode or any other episodes where we can talk conspiracies of COVID and government, you can find the show on the official website@greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @JustConvopod.

Jack: Yes, and remember to subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined, review.

Cristina: It and let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes, word of mouth. Very powerful. Tell people. Did you forget what happened this year? Was this year very boring to you? Very tame, mellow and repetitive. Did you miss most of the other things? Is that rock you were under way too heavy for you to look out of? Under. Well, here's a show for you. And then you show them this episode.

Cristina: In the first part, you tell them all through telepathy, which is now a thing.

Jack: Which is now a thing. You don't have to go there in person. You just send them a message. We're in the year 2021. We're so in the future. What?

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. By who do I think is stronger than Shaggy? What's his name?

Jack: Who? God?

Cristina: No. No. Not even Goku? Not Goku.

Jack: Superman?

Cristina: Chuck Norris.

Jack: You think Chuck Norris could be f****** Shaggy?

Cristina: Shaggy for sure.

Jack: Of all people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: He can do anything.

Jack: So can Shaggy, who's only using 1% of his power all times relative to anybody.

Cristina: We've never seen him do anything besides beat people up. I've never heard about any stories of him making things or any type of godlike powers that Sheik Norris has.

Jack: Here's the thing. Shaggy could beat up somebody like Chuck Norris using only 1% of his power.

Cristina: That's all he has because he hasn't.

Jack: Used the other 99 of his power. That's what you're missing here. With 1%, he can take down gods. Yeah, what does 2% look like? But he doesn't, because he doesn't need to. He could already beat God, and he could beat the. Beat Goku, and he could beat Chuck Norris.

Cristina: But Chuck Norris can do anything.

Jack: So can Dr. Manhattan and Dr. Manhattan get smacked down by Shaggy?

Cristina: Yes. But no. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor, and Published by GreatThoughts.in Fox, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 114: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 1

Just conversation, Podcast, Review, 2020 Review, New Year, Special, Police Brutality, Corruption, Election Fraud

What the hell happened in 2020? Well we do a recap of the events and where we went wrong!

 

The duo decides to dust off ancient books of the year 2020 and discover what the elders of that era were doing in their younger days and how they were dealing with the events. Going month by month and event by event, our two heroes revisit the highlights of this time before the flying cars and immortality were a thing.

Rambling 114: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 1

(This episode contains a transcript to make it accessible to Deaf and Hard of Hearing Audiences #DeafPodcast)

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Bushfires
  • World War III
  • The Who
  • Umbrella Corp.
  • Trump is the Best
  • Toilet Paper Crisis
  • Global Lockdown
  • Aliens Confirmed
  • Murder Hornets

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Official Website - https://greythoughts.info/podcast

Or anywhere you listen to podcasts!


+Transcript

Nick: Hi, my name is Nick.

Jack: I'm Brandon.

Nick: We are the hosts of the tennis podcast where every week we cover a different top 10 ish list. We cover lists such as the highest grossing films of all time, the best selling musicians of all time, the the.

Jack: Sexiest mogwais, the richest leprechauns, the all.

Nick: This and more we cover on the tennis podcast.

Jack: I had more.

Nick: You can find us on all podcast players including Apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher. All you gotta do is search for 10ish podcast. You can also find us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. And Brandon, what will we do if the listeners don't check out our podcast?

Jack: Well, cut your head off.

Nick: Don't make us cut your head off. Listen to the tennis podcast.

Jack: Bye.

Christina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Christina: What does live mean?

Jack: Huh? Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I am your host, Jack.

Christina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Christina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss. Discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to ask somebody nicely to listen to the show, please.

Christina: Really?

Jack: Yeah.

Jack: Totally.

Christina: For this episode.

Jack: For this episode.

Christina: What if they already did everything you told them to do in the last episode and now they're like, what?

Jack: Well, they.

Christina: How was that work?

Jack: No, they already got the work done. If they already listened and did it once and they got somebody to listen to the show.

Christina: But they assume like this episode would start the same though, and they would have prepared the same way.

Jack: Do you think they're just going out and doing this every episode?

Christina: Yes. After you said you gotta do it or else your memories erase. Actually, your memories always erase.

Jack: That's the craziest part.

Christina: I'm not really sure what their punishment was. Or. You kill their child.

Jack: Yeah. Their children are in danger and they gotta pay tax.

Christina: Yeah. In this episode, they did it for nothing.

Jack: No, this is a new, fresh year. What are you talking about?

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: This is different. We changed individuals. The only instance something bad would happen is if they don't ask somebody nicely, in which case their children are still in danger. And even if they're listening, it's outside of our power, they're gonna lose their memory. So all of that is sort of out of our control and they're still gonna get taxed.

Christina: Where does the memory loss. Where does that come from?

Jack: There's subliminal messaging in every episode.

Christina: Oh, okay, so the episodes. Doing it to them.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. We have our engineers encoded into the background.

Christina: Why do we do that?

Jack: To erase their memories.

Christina: Why?

Jack: Because we're like that.

Christina: We're like that. Okay?

Jack: That's who we are as people.

Christina: Yes. That's how we are.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: Anyways, Happy New Year.

Jack: Happy New Year.

Christina: It's not too late to say that. Like, how long after New Year is it? Like, stop saying Happy New Year.

Jack: I don't know.

Christina: Is it like the first time you see a person through the year? That time is the time you say it and then after that, no more.

Jack: It's a new year. Yeah, I guess.

Christina: But you just say it once and that's it.

Jack: Yeah, I don't.

Christina: You don't have to greet each other until the end of January or something.

Jack: Look, you say Happy new year until December 31st, and then there's a new year.

Christina: No, that's too much. At a point, you gotta stop. I think just say one time.

Jack: Says who? Who? Where's.

Christina: You just say one time.

Jack: Where's it written down? Point, point at the rule.

Christina: Right there. Right where I'm pointing.

Jack: That's not the rule.

Christina: Yes, it is.

Jack: I can see what you're saying. It's not that.

Christina: It's that.

Jack: That's a bottle.

Christina: It's the rule. You can't prove it's a bottle.

Jack: You can't prove it's the rule. Based on that same logic.

Christina: Well, the listeners will have to just believe me.

Jack: Fair enough.

Christina: I'm pointing out the rules anyways.

Jack: So, yeah, the. It's 2021. We're in the future. We have flying cars, flying skateboards. Our sneakers fly. So I don't know. I would need any of those other two options. There's tubes that teleport us immediately where we need to be.

Christina: Who uses those tubes?

Jack: We've been living on Mars for the past. How many days has it been since New Year's? For like three days. We got colonies set up.

Christina: We have for the tubes. I don't get it.

Jack: I don't get it.

Christina: And also, if you're going through the tubes, when you go to the end, are you upside down?

Jack: That's an interesting question. Right?

Christina: Yeah. How does that work?

Jack: I mean, I guess it would have to be like a tube that then loops up and then drops you down.

Christina: Oh, okay. Just. I never got that. But okay.

Jack: I don't understand either, because they get sucked in straight up. But Then they land straight up, which is like somewhere something sketchy happened.

Christina: Yes. I don't know. They were murdered. That's a clone.

Jack: Could be. So 2020.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We're on the moon. We're on Mars. We have a Dyson sphere around the sun.

Christina: Wait, you're talking about 2020.

Jack: 2021.

Christina: Oh, 2021. Okay.

Jack: 2010 just happened and we proved there's no God. What other achievements have happened this year? Things that have totally opposite from 2020, where the first f****** four days we dropped a bomb on somebody. But outside the point.

Christina: That was in December. In January.

Jack: January, man. That was January 4th or 3rd.

Christina: What?

Jack: Something like that.

Christina: Oh, I forgot about that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Trump was like, I ain't starting this year on no easy route. He was the. The foreshadowing about the year ago. And so totally counter to that. We've cured cancer, all of them. Cured diabetes, we cured obesity.

Christina: All of this happened in the first.

Jack: Week, a couple of days. Days or some s***. Yeah. So all of this has happened since then. We've found the cure to death. We no longer die.

Christina: No longer die.

Jack: The breakthrough for telepathy happened yesterday. I believe so. Yeah. The year's going really good. Way better. Yes, way better.

Christina: What was your favorite part of last year, though? It was a really great year. I don't know what you're talking about.

Jack: It wasn't a bad year. I didn't say it was a bad year.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I said it's just opposite. Last year it was more about tearing things down. This year is about building things up.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Science last year was like flat earth and conspiracy theories. This year, science, nothing but science.

Christina: This year was about conspiracy theories. It was a very conspiracy theory heavy year.

Jack: It was. It was. Anyways, I figured we could catch up on all the things that happened since January.

Christina: Oh, since January. January.

Jack: So that's what this episode is. This is a recap of the amazing. This is a 2020 recap.

Christina: If you forgot anything that happened last year or you just. There's so much things that happened, you probably don't know every single thing that happened.

Jack: Look, she might be trying to be nice about it, but in reality, if you're blackout drunk or a guy who was just strung out straight through 2020, because, f***, this year we're gonna tell you all the things you missed because you were in some sort of black cloud of nothingness.

Christina: Yes. We're here to help you out.

Jack: Yeah. Exactly how it's gonna happen. So. So let us begin by going way to the beginning. First There was nothing.

Christina: No, no. Well, what I remember. I would like to start before January, actually, because.

Jack: Before the first day.

Christina: Yes, before the first day. Because in December, something was happening in China and we didn't know what it was. And now we know, of course, but that started in December of 2019, which we were just like, there's something going on. What is it? Who knows? Mystery.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: And then it became the.

Jack: Some people got sick here, some people got sick over there. Oh, people getting really sick. It's spreading like wildfire.

Christina: It spread. And then in January, I guess now we can go to January.

Jack: Yes, in January, global cases of this mysterious virus have gone up to 9,000, 906.

Christina: And it was all in China. No, I don't know.

Jack: Maybe. I don't know. It was probably some here and there, but it was predominantly in China. So, yeah, 9,906 cases. So let's start. So we've got viruses somewhere out in the world, but elsewhere in the world, away from the viruses. Australia is on fire.

Christina: Yes. It's having its worst fire ever. Ever, ever.

Jack: The continent's on fire.

Christina: The continent? Yes. It's so crazy that New Zealand could see the smoke from the fire.

Jack: Yeah. The amount of area taken up is about the size of South Korea. No bullshit.

Christina: Of the fires.

Jack: The fire.

Christina: Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Jack: The amount of fire covers an area the size of South Korea.

Christina: Whoa. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's huge. That is huge. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Roughly 25 million acres burned.

Christina: No, it's not.

Jack: 25 million acres on fire. And at least 33 people died. Exciting way to start this f****** year. Yeah, fantastic. Including at least three firefighters were dead there, too.

Christina: Yes. And the smoke of the fire was a problem. Besides the actual fire, the smoke, it was just really bad. The pollution of the air. Pollution.

Jack: Yeah. It's f***** up the planet to great new heights, not just locally, but like the planet.

Christina: The planet.

Jack: The planet. Yeah. Maybe around 3,000 homes have been lost. And the smoke was definitely like the big centerpiece there because it got seen everywhere and it's still lingering up there.

Christina: Still lingering.

Jack: Yeah. That s*** is in the sky. Then it got contagious later because of this. Australia recorded the worst pollution it's ever.

Christina: Seen, 23 times higher than what's considered hazardous. So it was really dangerous. It's still really dangerous. Are they still there? They're not there anymore. Right. We got a new Australia. Yes. We destroyed that land and built a new land over it.

Jack: No, they were still areas to live in. Like, the whole place isn't Gone.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Australia outsizes South Korea, which is why it's weird that it's an island. It's a continent island.

Christina: It's a continent island.

Jack: It's a continent country island.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. Australia is a unique place with unique.

Christina: Animals that we gotta save. We gotta go over there and save the animals. There's so many unique animals in Australia.

Jack: There's too many unique animals on the planet in general.

Christina: Australia. They only come from Australia. Once they're gone, they're gone.

Jack: So.

Christina: But they're so unique.

Jack: So.

Christina: Knuckles. We'll lose Knuckles. You want him to die?

Jack: I don't care. Look, here's the thing. The universe is making choices. Who are we to stop it? To stop it.

Christina: What about that weird platypus thing?

Jack: F*** that platypus thing. There's like, a furry duck mammal thing.

Christina: It's a mammal that thinks it's a bird. Yes. But it's so awesome. I don't want to lose those animals.

Jack: Yeah. I don't. I don't know. It's like, there's too many animals. What? Val, who cares? We save these animals, but then we ignore those. Or we have to kill those to save the environment anyways. Like, what the. How are we trading this off? We decide we got to save the Australian animals because. Trees on fire. But then over here, we're like, we gotta set these trees on fire because it's gonna kill the animals.

Christina: We're setting the trees on fire?

Jack: Well, you set the trees on fire to prevent bigger fires from happening in the future by controlling where the fire can happen and thus saving the E ecosystem.

Christina: But we can't do that. We're bad at it. Is that what we have?

Jack: Point being, we save these animals, but then we destroy those trees. Okay, maybe the trees are just making choices.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Or not even the trees. Just.

Christina: Nature is saying goodbye to Australia. Or at least a big chunk of it.

Jack: Yeah. It doesn't. The universe makes choices we're not allowed to question. Universal choices. Australia declares a state of disaster after the death of over 500 million animals.

Christina: That's so crazy.

Jack: That's f****** nuts.

Christina: That's crazy. Exactly. Exactly.

Jack: Yeah. It's pretty excessive. The amount of death, like, incalculable. And we're not even considering the amount of insects that lived in there.

Christina: Oh, my gosh. If we count the insects. Whoa. That's too much. That's a lot of death.

Jack: No, no, it's excessive. 25,000 koalas are dead. The koalas are dying.

Christina: The koala does. Yeah. 30% of their home is wiped out thanks to the fire. What are we gonna do with them? The ones that they can't go back home because their home is gone?

Jack: We're gonna eat them.

Christina: We keep them as pets.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: No, I think that's a bad idea. Take them to the zoos. No.

Jack: Smoothing along in January, the lovely President of the United States had a drone strike on a foreign military leader. That was an exciting introduction to the year. Not only were we rolling over from this Australia fire of the previous year, but we're like, this year didn't start on fire enough. Let's get some fireworks going.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And we drop the bomb that the f****** drone strike kills an Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. That's when we drop the. So we dropped the drone on Soleimani, man.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. S*** got out of hand. There was definitely the potential for a war with the US both on their territories and on our territories, which is weird. Immediately at the beginning of the year, the potential for war just opened up.

Christina: And that reminds me, wasn't in December the Korean thing happening? Was that. Not this December? I don't remember. Oh, man. That Korea. We weren't sure if they were gonna bomb us because he made us some weird message about, like, you were gonna give you guys a gift or something. And we were thinking he was gonna, like, some horrible thing was going to happen.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like a nuke or something.

Christina: Yeah. I'm not sure if that was this December, though. It was eight. December, for sure.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. It might have been this past. Not 2020, but like 2019. December.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because I wasn't for this year.

Christina: It wasn't. Okay.

Jack: No, that was for last year, I believe.

Christina: All right, Sorry.

Jack: Whatever. F******.

Christina: That was another.

Jack: It was 29.

Christina: We're going to be in war.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened usually. Then around January 9th, the WHO announces this mysterious coronavirus pneumon in Wuhan, China.

Christina: The beginning.

Jack: So there were already signs of something weird happening. But now the who got involved. The band. The who is now involved. S*** is serious.

Christina: That's how we know.

Jack: That's how we know. Once the. Once the who stops making music and gets involved, are they still alive?

Christina: That's an old band, isn't it?

Jack: It's very old.

Christina: Okay. So they came back from the grave.

Jack: Now, in the time that this s*** happens and it gets announced, people start to f****** panic and we start so dumb. Oh, my God, we're idiots. Because as the panic begins, we start pulling out everybody who we have. All Americans, rather come back Home.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's like, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.

Christina: Let them stay there for two weeks.

Jack: Yeah, abandon them. Let them stay there. You're pulling them out of a zone that has a plague running around. Yeah, maybe, Maybe, just maybe, just let them there. You just leave them there?

Christina: Yeah. Didn't we do that with the people on boats, on the cruise ships? We just, like. Okay, we thought about it mad late.

Jack: We thought about it mad late. That solution came mad late. Oh, when it's like, you brought the plague over, why didn't you just f****** cut it off?

Christina: I don't know. What was the point?

Jack: That's really how it spread. Yes, that's really how it spread. But here's what's funny. A bunch of people who did not get tested for having it or whatever were like, man, I must have had it back then. I heard that so many times. Like, people who thought they had it earlier than what happened or whatever.

Christina: Yeah. And you believe them?

Jack: No.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: I think it's possible, I guess, but what are the odds there weren't, like, a lot of people with it. You didn't just happen to have it, but it's these people who are, like, hypochondriacs, essentially.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: F****** crazy, but. Yeah. I don't know why the f*** we were pulling people out. Just f****** close that b**** down and leave them in there.

Christina: Leave them there. Look, that would have been a great solution.

Jack: Sucks. But they're the guinea pigs at this point. You're gonna find out how bad it is.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Are they gonna die?

Christina: Especially when a lot of countries don't even trust China and their news and stuff. Why not just keep your people there and just, you know, check on them and make sure that everything's.

Jack: Or. When they brought them up, why'd you bring them into the country and let them go? You should have, like, rented out a boat and put them on there. Yeah, right at the beginning. Keep them quarantined. You don't want them over there. We'll trap them over here, but. Trap them somewhere?

Christina: Yes.

Jack: That's f****** nuts.

Christina: Crazy.

Jack: So, yeah, that happens for the next couple of weeks.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: And then on the 21st, obviously, the CDC confirms the first US coronavirus cases. I mean, like, no s***. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you don't let people leave China when China's overrun by a deadly plague.

Christina: No one knew that it was so deadly. Or they did. I don't know. Whatever.

Jack: Weren't the hospitals over there right at the start?

Christina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Then Also on the 21st, Chinese scientist confirms COVID 19 human transmission.

Christina: Now we know about the monkey virus. Or was it a bat virus? Bat virus?

Jack: Bat soup virus. That's where that conspiracy starts. Because people got to be sketchy and make s*** up. And it came from a restaurant where bat soup was happening. And I don't know where the f*** that rumor got started.

Christina: You.

Jack: I definitely started that rumor.

Christina: Yes. And what was that other rumor? It came from that Resident Evil place.

Jack: Umbrellas, which I also started. It came from the. I started both of those.

Christina: Umbrella Corporation.

Jack: Yes. Well, that one might be true. It's not called the Umbrella Corporation, but it gets started in some lab or something. Yeah, that's the weird part. Like, there's. They're thinking it leaped through animals, but it was. Something was being tested on that kind of caused it. And not like we're gonna. I mean, we don't know the motivations behind them. They could have been like, we're gonna f****** destroy the world. But, like, it's unlikely. But, like, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I just don't know that it did.

Christina: There's many possibilities.

Jack: Many possibilities. And two days later, Wuhan, now under quarantine. This is where Hong Kong closed its borders to the rest of China and s*** everywhere. Wasn't allowing travel. Wuhan was on total lockdown. Everybody was trapped in their houses. I remember they were spraying down their roads and cleaning them in hazmat suits or sidewalks or buildings, everything.

Christina: And people weren't allowed out. And they need a passport. Not. What's it called? Pass.

Jack: Yeah, they needed a pass to go outside.

Christina: Yeah, they needed passes to go outside. What?

Jack: F****** nuts.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: All that s*** was cray cray.

Christina: That was cray cray. Then in January 31st, WHO issues global health emergency. So it's not a pandemic yet.

Jack: No, no. That happens much later down the line, but with the worldwide death toll becomes.

Christina: A health emergency because it's spreading fast.

Jack: And also that's around the same time that Trump got impeached for making a perfect phone call.

Christina: Yes. That was his tweet. I got. Well, I just got impeached for making a perfect phone call. Trump has the best words.

Jack: He has the best words. Let's be real. He has an army of followers.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And not to say that the left or right, because they're also a bunch of morons, but the bull. The right is blind. Like, both sides are pretty heavily brainwashed, except the left requires an army of people working tactically together to brainwash them. Trump seems to do what they do. Single handedly to both sides, I guess. Yeah, sort of.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: He portrays whatever image he wants and gets what he wants.

Christina: Yep.

Jack: So Trump effectively manipulates all the idiots on both sides.

Christina: And I'm sure that phone call was perfect. A perfect phone call. Only he could have a perfect phone call.

Jack: I swear that phone call was a tactical masterpiece in order to throw people off of something crazier he was doing.

Christina: Ooh, it was.

Jack: He's too slick. He's too slick. He is one of the smartest individuals to have just blessed this planet and he really is. The best part is he's not Obama, who needs to show off his intellect and prove to people I'm slicker than you are. He's okay with. Sure, it's okay. If you think I'm an idiot, I have the upper hand there. Because if you think I'm an idiot, I can always catch you off guard.

Christina: And he always does.

Jack: And he always does.

Christina: I don't know how.

Jack: The right ignores blatant facts because he says so. And he's tricked them many, many times. The left will ignore blatant facts just because he says so. They. They get sucked into vortexes of his thoughts. He does have the perfect words. He destroys the psyche of dumb people.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: He said idiots will vote for me and idiots voted for him. He said, these morons on the left are gonna freak the f*** out when I do this. And they did f****** freak out. They're all idiots. Both sides are so stupid. They don't realize that Trump isn't what he says he is. He's what he secretly is and lies to you about an image that you're gonna follow. He knows who's gonna do what.

Christina: It works for him.

Jack: It works for him very well. And so he has an army of followers and haters, all based on his chosen perception.

Christina: And that was the end of January.

Jack: Yeah, beautiful. End of January, it was the we're still in light time, light light mode. Very simple, easy.

Christina: I don't know. Those are pretty crazy situations.

Jack: But no, that was tame s*** compared.

Christina: To what comes next.

Jack: That was all tame s***. Yeah. Cuz next comes February. So we finished almost at 10,000 cases on January. Come February, by the end of February, we have about 85,000 cases.

Christina: Crazy jump.

Jack: That's a crazy jump. To contain the coronavirus outbreak, the Chinese government sealed off Wuhan, which happened at the beginning, at the end of January and banned public transportation and private cars from the streets and access to the streets. Businesses shut down. Hospitals were the only place essentially open and groceries were Essentially being delivered to people's doorsteps because they were now allowed outside of their house. Rationing.

Christina: They were really trapped.

Jack: They were locked the f*** down.

Christina: What?

Jack: Yep.

Christina: That's the beginning now. Are they all dead? Is it nothing there now?

Jack: No, there's probably fine now.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: Or they're still going through it. Who knows? Like, the world hasn't solved the problem yet, so who the h*** knows? You're starting this year, still dealing with that. But by February 2, all global air travel has been cut, which is great.

Christina: I mean, I guess it's bad for people who need to travel, but yes, great for Earth. Earth was like, I need this.

Jack: Yeah, Earth was definitely. That's the craziest part. I remember somewhere in, like March, after the lockdowns happened, that people were making those posts about just seeing animals coming out. It's like, Earth is healing itself or whatever.

Christina: Earth is healing itself. Oh, yes. I think that was a meme too.

Jack: Yeah, it was f****** everywhere.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it got it all obviously, like mediums, like spun out of control and then dumb equal.

Christina: Exactly. Yeah. It's like two. What was it? Two scooters floating out of the water. Earth is healing itself. Yeah, I don't know.

Jack: Sounds about right. Yep. Yep. But basically February is a really slow month because it's very drowned in Covid. That's pretty much all the excitement.

Christina: Covid.

Jack: Covid. By February 3, the US declared public health emergency. So, okay, we caught up to s*** that's already been going on. We don't f****** do s*** on time, I guess.

Christina: Or watching Covid on the news 247 by now. Or I feel like more on Feb. March.

Jack: Yeah, more like March or whatever. I remember tracking.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Every time we were here, we would always check to see what. What the progress was.

Christina: Yeah. But the rest of the people in the Illuminati office weren't really paying attention until March.

Jack: Yeah. Until we were all given the order of. Now it's serious, guys. Yeah, Time to work.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But by the 10th, China's COVID 19 deaths had exceeded of SARS. What? The SARS crisis.

Christina: Do you remember how much death was in the sars?

Jack: No, but this is way more than that.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And then on February 25th, the CDC says COVID 19 is heading towards pandemic.

Christina: Status and people flipped out. Not this part.

Jack: This is the.

Christina: This is not the part yet.

Jack: They were freaking out at the. Just the anticipation that it might be called the pandemic was like, oh my God. Like, bro, whatever's happening is already happening. They're Just changing the title of it.

Christina: But the change somehow made it feel more like, oh, my gosh. Like, these cases aren't oh, my gosh. But.

Jack: Well, we finish February, like I said, with 85,000 cases, and then it jumps. And then it jumps. So that by the end of March, we're at 800,000 global cases. Ten times over.

Christina: Yes. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: So where we're. It's definitely spreading pandemic style.

Christina: Mm. Man. But the numbers are just so crazy. It's just gonna get crazier.

Jack: The leaps are monumental.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: So March.

Christina: The first lockdown.

Jack: Yes. Yes, the first lockdowns. And ahead of the possibility of those lockdowns, the first thing that happened after people heard, oh, my God, it might become a pandemic is we have to stock up on supplies for when we're locked down. And everybody had the same idea. Fair enough. Stock up on what you have. Of course, there's greedy people who were gonna take more than they needed. There's always that bunch of people who are douchebags, essentially. I got more money. I'm buying way more. And, yeah, whatever you're douchebagging, you deserve to be in by the zombies that are coming or whatever's happening. And I'm pretty sure in New Jersey, at some point, there was, like, some other plague.

Christina: Why?

Jack: There was some other s*** killing people off, but the government was suppressing. I remember that s*** specifically. I remember reading about that. That the government was suppressing some f****** other plague that was happening. Right. In New Jersey.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: You remember that? We had this conversation about how some other sh. Like, plague was happening in Jersey.

Christina: Yeah, I remember talking about it, but I don't know, like, what happened with that?

Jack: This s*** got crazier, I guess, and it, like, over camera. Anyway, so when people were, you know, shopping, buying their things, some mass hysteria took over.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And it led to people, instead of buying food, buying toilet paper. All of it.

Christina: All of it.

Jack: All of it, yes. Everywhere in the world. The world ran out of toilet paper.

Christina: Not really. Because they had so much.

Jack: Not really, because toilet paper are usually locally made, and toilet paper tends to be stocked in the warehouse real close by.

Christina: But they was gone.

Jack: And it was gone for, like, a week.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Because they would. If you come at. If you come into the supermarket. This applies to most things in a supermarket. If you empty the thing out at night, the stock deliver people show up at night and restock so that by the morning, everything is already there.

Christina: Yeah. So the horse shortage is just for the night. Yeah.

Jack: Until the close by warehouse ran out. That doesn't mean they don't have some giant other warehouse somewhere with it. Which is why it took a week after the warehouse ran dry. Because people kept hoarding it. Because it happened in a domino effect way where somebody saw somebody buying too much toilet paper and they were like, oh, s***, this probably happening. Everyone let me buy toilet paper. And so they bought toilet paper. Then some other person sees the person who originated doing it. The person who saw them doing it panicked, and then they panic, and you follow this train of thought. And then before long, everybody only buying f****** toilet paper. The zombies. And that repeatedly led to the warehouses themselves running dry. But the local warehouse, not the distribution warehouse. So the local warehouse at the end of the week would get stocked f****** anyways. And people were like, oh, the shelves are empty. We gotta get as much as we can when we see it. Which is ridiculous.

Christina: Yes. And that lasted a while.

Jack: That lasted a while. Lasted a couple of weeks before people just started putting up signs. No, you are. You take one.

Christina: Yes. There was a lot of. You take one for. Because it started with toilet paper, but then it became other things like.

Jack: Yeah, hand sanitizer.

Christina: Yeah. Loves frozen food. I saw that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Christina: Also, if you want to know more about toilet paper, we did an episode about what, the many conspiracies of why toilet paper.

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Christina: Besides hysteria, there are other reasons.

Jack: Yeah, there's definitely way more going on there. So if you're interested on that, you could go check that out. But the shortages of toilet paper were so global, they hit all the major locations in the world, predominantly. So we're talking Hong Kong, Australia, United Kingdom, United States. Big, giant, f****** colossal places.

Christina: I'm happy it wasn't just United States. It would be embarrassing if we were the only country.

Jack: I think it started in Australia.

Christina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. I think we were the followers in this instance.

Christina: I don't know what's worse. No. I think it's a little better than if it was just us and we were the only ones.

Jack: But it feels like something very American.

Christina: Yes. Yes, it does.

Jack: It does. Feels like something only United States people know about. Anyways, on March 6, to change the tone. To change the tone of people, you know, a pandemic murdering people, because that's crazy. And people fighting each other like zombies over toilet paper and mass death happening. Will look in this other direction. At March 6, 21 passengers on a California cruise ship test positive.

Christina: I don't know how that's more positive, like, good news compared to the horrible news. You just Said you made it sound like they're positive.

Jack: 21 positive people. That's better than 21 negative people. Not really. Isn't it weird? Why don't we say negative, you're negative.

Christina: Because negative is negative. Or it feels like it's weird that.

Jack: Negative means positive and positive is negative.

Christina: I. Whatever.

Jack: You're infected, you're positive, which is a negative thing. Yes, you're negative, which is a positive thing. Yeah, that's weird.

Christina: That is weird. That's how it works.

Jack: Point being, 21 passengers in a California cruise ship test positive. Those people weren't gonna see home in a long time. They were gonna have a bad time. March 9 rolls by. Italy places 16 million people in quarantine.

Christina: They got a lot of people now.

Jack: We're getting into harsh territory, though. 16 million people in quarantine, more than a quarter of its population. In a bid to stop the COVID What? Yeah. A day later, the quarantine expands to cover the entire country. That 25% means nothing because a hundred percent goes into lockdown.

Christina: Crazy. Wow, that's crazy.

Jack: 16 million people was a quarter. So we're talking 68, 68, 64. 64 million people in quarantine. Yep.

Christina: That's even more people. Yes. We're dealing with millions.

Jack: Whole country on lockdown.

Christina: Whole country. Yep.

Jack: That's crazy. Then we have March 11th. Finally, the people who bought all the toilet paper get what they were hoarding toilet paper for. The COVID virus is titled a pandemic.

Christina: Are you sure it wasn't. It was titled a pandemic, and then people started getting toilet paper. Do you remember the order?

Jack: Yeah, it was definitely before.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, it was definitely the anticipation. People were doing it ahead of lockdowns.

Christina: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. It was before lockdowns. I remember that.

Jack: Okay. Yeah, yeah. And then on the 13th, Trump declares COVID 19 a national emergency. Kind of late, buddy, but it's all right. On the same 13th, all travel from Europe stopped into the US no more. We don't want no more Europeans here.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We're banning everybody's travel, essentially. And then California becomes the first state to issue a stay at home order, which failed.

Christina: Did it fail at the beginning?

Jack: It was fine at the beginning. It helped.

Christina: It did help.

Jack: Yes. It worked. It brought it way down and for a way long time. They were the first place to have a bunch of people. But there. A bunch was in the low, like the double digits.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: They had double. I remember following it. There was one here. There's two there. There's Three.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: It wasn't like overnight. There's thousands.

Christina: But it's like that now.

Jack: Yeah, it's like that now. They managed to fight it off at the beginning, then they opened up and s*** hit the fan. And we discover by the 31st that COVID 19 could be transmitted through the eyes.

Christina: I'm not sure what that means.

Jack: It means that, like, you can cry.

Christina: On someone and then they get Covid.

Jack: No, we're saying that it's no longer just you covering your mouth and your nose. If there is air particles that have the virus in it and that lands on your eye, you have now contracted the COVID Oh, yes.

Christina: Do glasses help at all?

Jack: No, they'll help from the front, I guess.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But there's like quite a bit of opening. So I guess with glasses you have more protection than somebody without.

Christina: Yeah, like a 5% or some low.

Jack: Percentage, some added protection, but without like full gauze goggles blocking your face.

Christina: Why hasn't that become a popular thing?

Jack: I don't know. We could barely handle masks because this is America. So. Yeah, by now we have global lockdowns and hundreds of thousands of businesses go out of business and people go homeless. Schools close, airports close. Travel is globally banned. And around the same time, we have the stock market beginning to crash because nobody's driving. Oil prices drop, stock prices drop in the Dow Jones hits below low anything.

Christina: It'S ever hit in history.

Jack: In history.

Christina: Well, it's pretty crazy month.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: S***'s starting to get real related, but it's pretty crazy.

Jack: Yes. The domino effect of COVID is crazy. The right at the beginning s*** was real.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And people went into panic hard. A lot of people thought it was.

Christina: Like the end and somehow it's not.

Jack: It's never the end. We're f****** cockroaches.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Nothing's gonna f****** kill us. But we end March at 800,000 to enter April. So April 27, South Korea told CNN that despite speculation Kim Jong Un, who was expected to be dead because he was ill, was actually alive. So basically, conspiracy theories.

Christina: There's so much conspiracy theories about whether he was really alive or not, because they were saying he was, but no one's seen him.

Jack: Nobody saw him for a while because he was ill. They thought he might have. The one of the things. It was the possibility the virus made it into the country, which it still hadn't because they're so f****** locked down and cut off from the rest of the world.

Christina: Yeah, I can't imagine that. But even if they did, we would.

Jack: Never know yeah, but eventually it did made it in. It did make it in.

Christina: It didn't make it.

Jack: Yeah, it made it in one way or another. I don't remember how the f***. But that's not even it, because we also start getting into sketch territory when the Pentagon releases videos that they have taken into classified files of UFOs before. They. If you remember a couple of years ago, there was one 2017, this one 2019, and one in 2006 or something. All these videos that they kept collecting, saying we were gonna find out what they are. Those are just, you know, planes.

Christina: This is the time they say, we don't know.

Jack: Yeah. They release all three of them and they're like, we don't know what any of this is. None of our enemies, none of our allies have anything we're seeing here. We can't tell you what it is. Society, it's yours. You figure it out. Yes, but people are so panicked because the virus, that s*** just disappears. Like two days later, we forgot about it. Like aliens. Yeah. Yeah, but the virus is here now. Yeah, you should have showed us this, like, last year.

Christina: But we were showed this last year. Oh, but they didn't say anything, I guess. Does that make a difference?

Jack: Yeah, we saw videos, but nobody was like, it wasn't an official government message saying, this is some crazy s***, guys.

Christina: Yes. Oh, Trump's cures. He gives us some crazy cures that month. One of the cures was disinfectant. Like maybe we could put that in our bodies.

Jack: Oh, yeah, Yummy. Bleach.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Inject bleach right into your veins, bro. That's the solution.

Christina: And the other was using very powerful light.

Jack: Yeah, ultraviolet light. So the theory here is he is assuming that we're so advanced he has way hopes for us, that we can somehow capture photons, put enough of them together without them phasing through things for us to, I guess, theoretically inject the photons of light into our body or shine light through us to kill it, the virus. So, yeah, those are some of Trump's lovely cures. Cures.

Christina: I thought those were amazing.

Jack: So, April, another particularly tame month that took place. It was kind of like February, where March was the giant spike in chaos. February, pretty tame. January was kind of chaotic. It began strong and then kind of came down for February, went way the f*** up for March, and then we get to April and we're back to just normal year, minus the fact that the virus was spreading like f****** wildfire that whole time. But at this point, we were dealing with it for A month globally.

Christina: We're bored of it.

Jack: We're bored of it already. We're getting used to. We're like, whatever.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: And so some people get chill and start to do things they were doing before the lockdowns happen. And the virus started spreading in those little pockets where people were like, I don't give a f***. And the spread got so vicious, eventually we ended up at 3 million infections coming from the previous month's 800,000.

Christina: And what's the jump from 8,000? I mean, 800,000 to 3 million.

Jack: That's roughly, what, like, four times over?

Christina: It's. It's going up there.

Jack: It's. We're climbing some heights. We're climbing some heights. But then we enter May. And May is relatively boring through the month. It's casual boring. We're just bouncing off of. We've got crazy numbers happening, virus wise. But other than that, the month goes relatively fine. Very quiet. Everybody's scared because of the virus. We're just learning how to function with it. And then the other shoe drops. It was May 25 when a black, unarmed man was put on the ground. And with the four officers present, one of them, their knee on this man's neck, he is left to die without being able to breathe. While caught on video, the death of George Floyd, which seemed like just another black guy being killed by a white officer, another unarmed black man being killed by another white officer, abusing power. But there were a couple of things that made this situation different than the others.

Christina: What was that?

Jack: We had three cops, aside from the guy who was leaning on him, visible. They were all present, doing absolutely nothing, saying nothing, while a man is saying he's dying. Other times, you have cops on top of the person, handcuffing them, putting them. No, this guy wasn't even being handcuffed. He was just being held on the ground.

Christina: He was just being murdered.

Jack: He was just being murdered. There was nothing else happening. It was being recorded from several different angles, so it could not be disputed. And the view of the victim was clear. It wasn't hard to see. They could just zoom in on the phone. The shot was perfect. And you can see a man die slowly. Very, very slowly, unarmed, for no reason.

Christina: But that was the last straw for.

Jack: But that was the straw that broke the camel's f****** back, bro. Yes, it piled on for the last 200 years.

Christina: That was it.

Jack: And that was the one that was like, one too many. Come the very next day, May 26, Minneapolis is stormed by so many g****** protesters. People were coming from Other states to protest.

Christina: Wow.

Jack: Minneapolis became crazy. It became the largest protesting site ever. Streets were flooded, hundreds of Thousands of people. May 27th. Contagious. Not only are we dealing with a contagious virus that seems to have gone on break towards the end of f****** May for whatever reason, but nationwide police brutality protests. Cities all over the country began to protest because of the same s*** that keeps happening.

Christina: And then the police solved these problems.

Jack: Yes.

Christina: By assaulting protesters 100%.

Jack: The police solved their police brutality problem or attempted to do so with police brutality. You guys think we're being vicious. We're gonna beat you with sticks, shoot you with rubber bullets, hit you with tear gas, and push you forcefully out of where we deem our control territory.

Christina: They proved them.

Jack: They proved the protesters wrong. This is America. But that didn't go too well. That solution to peaceful protesting where we're gonna basically assault you guys for exercising your right to protest, which is an amendment right. So they're basically having their amendments violated by having people, police officers, assault them. Come the 28th, those protests evolved into riots. Minneapolis is now classified a hostile territory because there is a literal war happening between protesters, of which some picked up arms and police officers. Now we have a country that's teetering on the brink of collapse.

Christina: Mm. This is just the last four days of May.

Jack: Yeah. This is. We're just still f****** ending this month now following this. Because we couldn't just end with the country on the verge of collapse over race war and the death. The increasing death based on a virus that's sweeping the country. But. But right around this time, Japan decided we're gonna release the Murder Hornets Attack America.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Which are fully trained bees the size of cars that fly in and eat all the other bees to steal their nests and replace Americans.

Christina: Replace where we get our honey. That's the end of honey. That's the end of our flowers. That's the end of a lot.

Jack: Maybe they make honey.

Christina: Are you sure about that? I thought that's why we don't want them.

Jack: I have no idea. I have no idea why we don't want them. Maybe it's because they're f****** the size of cards or some s***.

Christina: I thought it was because they could kill you in one sting.

Jack: Oh, yeah, probably.

Christina: And also they're killing our bees, which we need to pollinate. Yes. I think those are the two big problems with murder hornets.

Jack: Sure. It's not that they're just robot bees programmed like Black Mirror by the Japanese to come and replace American.

Christina: Why are they killing Japanese people?

Jack: Because they're controlled by Japanese people. The crooked Japanese robots. There's hackers out there too. You think Japan is free of hackers?

Christina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, yeah. So scientists launch a full scale hunt for the.

Christina: The hornets.

Jack: The hornets.

Christina: The hornets.

Jack: The hornets.

Christina: Yes. The horn nests.

Jack: Hello, Hornets nests. Then. Yeah, they were worried that they would definitely destroy all the bees and we'd be f***** forever. Anyways, to finish with a little bit of a cherry. The apocalypse is clearly looming. Society is on collapse. Civil war is on the edge. Plagues surrounding everything. For whatever reason, storms are f****** drowning half the world. And down by India and Nepal, a consistent storm, rain and showers and crap that keeps happening over there starts to flood their river, endangering thousands in both India and Nepal. Because this is America.

Christina: That's not America.

Jack: Fair enough. And we end that month having reached almost 6 million cases of the COVID virus. So it doubled, doubled, but it seems to be slowing down. We went. We multiplied by nine first, then by 10, then by four.

Christina: Oh, there's one more thing from Main though.

Jack: What?

Christina: On May 28th, US COVID 19 deaths past 100,000 mark.

Jack: Oh, interesting. So we have 6 million cases and a hundred thousand deaths, which is crazy. And then that's where we get to June. But we're gonna have to do June next time on Dragon Ball Z. No, we're gonna have to do June on the next episode because we are running out of time now.

Christina: Alright.

Jack: Yes. Cuz this year is epic as f***.

Christina: Yeah, it's been pretty epic and sad and very all over the place. It's been all over the place, man.

Jack: It has been. It has been very all over the place. S***'s crazy. But it is what it is. And luckily now we're living in the future. That's way in the past. We barely remember that.

Christina: Yeah, now we got hoverboards for our hoverboards.

Jack: Yeah, we got hoverboards for our hoverboards. My flying car is parked out back. And everything, you know, everything is evolved.

Christina: Which also has hoverboards.

Jack: Everything government is run entirely by black women. There's no white males at all in office anymore. It's all black women. So. Well, different world, man. Different world. That was a long time ago. Kids were born and went to college and have grown old. That came after that year, that horrid year.

Christina: So a few days they just aged.

Jack: Yeah, they've gone through. They've become experts in fields and everything.

Christina: Okay. They're the ones that changed all of our lives.

Jack: Yeah, we cleaned the planet and Everything all right. Fantastic. Anyways, if you guys like conversations of this nature, there are conversations which we touch a lot of the topics here because it's a year's review. So, you know.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Skim through our episodes, I suppose, because.

Christina: We have great, great conspiracies. Great points.

Jack: Yes. There's so much going on and Covid is a big one.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah, go catch up. Go find out what's going on.

Christina: Listen to every single episode of last year that we made. How many episodes are that?

Jack: It should be 52, because there's 52 weeks, minus the guest episode of every month. That would be 12. So there's 40 episodes.

Christina: Okay, so you're telling them to ignore.

Jack: The guest episodes if they're looking for content like this.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I mean, you can always, always go ahead and check out the guest episodes where I bring on an interesting creator or a scholar and we have conversations about stuff.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you want to find those other episodes and things of that nature, you can find them on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Christina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. USCombop.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate the show and if you feel so inclined, review.

Christina: It and let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is incredibly important. It's something that helps us a lot because it tells people about the show. So go tell people about the show. Run outside, aim at a stranger, be like, hey, you. Then be like, look, show. And then hold up like a sticker of ours or something that you made because we don't sell stickers and be like, hey, show. And they'll be like, cool, I'll check it out. And now you made a new friend.

Christina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Christina: Okay. Wrong.

Jack: I'm sure you weren't out there, like, this is gonna be. Be naughty.

Christina: What if the child little me was naughty Garden age five year old. The five year old me, I don't know. She was a super villain.

Jack: She was a super villain. You were just terrorizing people. That's crazy.

Christina: Yes. Were you a super villain too?

Jack: I wasn't.

Christina: What were you?

Jack: I don't know. I didn't exist in school.

Christina: Exist in school? Yeah.

Jack: There was no me in school. I phased into existence right before this podcast began.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Well, there's. There's so many problems with that, considering I was already a robot in the World War and I was then killed and a ghost. Well, no, I was a normal person. I was alive for 60 years, then died, then got remade with ghost robot technology. If I remember correctly, then that ghost robot was cloned three times, of which I am the third iteration. There's still a second one somewhere out there that didn't get murdered because we killed the wrong person who was supposed to be just me.

Christina: Yes. But it wasn't.

Jack: But it wasn't. And because I, for whatever reason, couldn't tell me apart from me. Or wait, was it me?

Christina: Yeah, there was a version of you that. It was you. There was. There was just two you's. Clones. The you you and the slower you. Because I think he was a clone of you.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. I'm the third clone. There was the original clone who was. Who began the show. He was just killed and replaced one day because talking. Yeah, that happened, if I remember correctly, between episode 211. And 212. No, it was actually both in episode 211 where the first half began with that Jack. He got killed and continued the clone on the second part of that episode with Dave.

Christina: That clone wasn't you.

Jack: No, I'm the third clone who came from the future to kill the past clone and failed. And. But now I'm in the place. But I didn't know that clone ran away. I'm the clone who failed at killing the other clone. Or I'm the one who got failed? No. Am I the second clone?

Christina: Yes, because the one that tried to kill you was a slow clone. He was like. I don't know. There was something. He was special because he was a copy of a copy.

Jack: Oh, my God.

Christina: That's why he confused you with your friend and he killed your friend instead.

Jack: I get it, I get it. I get it. Because I was cloned from the original the way that the first clone was cloned.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We were both. I'm the second clone at this spot. But we were both. I'm just second in order. But not cloned from the clone. Yeah, the third clone was cloned from me.

Christina: Yes. Then he. He wanted to kill you to replace you.

Jack: Because failed.

Christina: Yes. And failed. And then I don't know what happened to him. He might be out there still.

Jack: Fantastic.

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