Rambling 299: Dead CEOs and Chinese Drone

In the latest episode of our podcast, we delve into the absurdities that define our current reality, starting with a seemingly innocuous discussion about the medulla oblongata, a part of the brain that sounds as ridiculous as it is crucial. Hosts Jack and Cristina explore how language, particularly in the realm of science, can often be a reflection of deeper truths about the world around us. They break down the origins of scientific terminology, revealing how many terms are built from Latin roots that describe their functions, leading to a fascinating conversation about the elegance of scientific language. However, the episode takes a sharp turn as the hosts pivot to discuss a shocking recent event: the public shooting of a CEO. This incident serves as a springboard for a broader discussion about societal collapse, the rich versus the poor, and the growing unrest among the populace. Jack posits that this event is a reflection of a larger trend, suggesting that we are witnessing the first signs of a societal upheaval where the disenfranchised are taking matters into their own hands. The conversation reveals a deep-seated frustration with the systems that govern our lives, particularly those that profit off the suffering of others. As the episode progresses, the hosts touch on the themes of confusion and misinformation that permeate our media landscape. They discuss the role of government surveillance and the increasing presence of drones in our skies, questioning whether these are tools for safety or instruments of control. The hosts draw parallels between the chaos of recent events and the idea that we are living in an age where truth is often obscured by narratives crafted by those in power. Listeners are invited to reflect on the absurdity of our current reality, where the lines between truth and fiction are increasingly blurred. The episode encourages a critical examination of the information we consume and the societal structures that shape our understanding of the world. With humor and insight, Jack and Cristina guide their audience through the complexities of modern life, leaving them with more questions than answers—an invitation to engage in the ongoing conversation about our shared reality. Tune in to hear the full discussion and join the exploration of what it means to navigate an absurd world. You won't want to miss this thought-provoking episode that challenges the way we think about language, society, and the events that shape our lives.


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  • The CEO Assassination
  • Luigi: Hero or Villain?
  • Public Reaction to Violence Against the Elite
  • The Rise of Drones: Surveillance or Invasion?
  • The State of Society and the Apocalypse
  • The Role of Media in Shaping Perception

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Rambling 299: Dead CEOs and Chinese Drone Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas, which we will definitely do today. But we were just talking about the medubla oblongata and how it sounds ridiculous. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And so I was gonna go and do the most basic surface level. We're gonna trust Wikipedia right now. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And we're gonna see where it came from. The word the. Yeah. Why? It's. Why it's so dumb. Cristina: You think wiki's gonna tell us why it's so, though? Jack: I think so. I think they'll tell us about. Cristina: The word is from someone's name. That's why it's so dumb. Jack: Let's see, let's see. Does it tell us where the word came from? Okay, what if we go to a dictionary or some crap? Cristina: So you're leaving wiki? You just said you were gonna go to wiki. Jack: Then we can't trust wiki. Cristina: No, we can't trust wiki. Jack: Okay, based on how it sounds, where do you think it came from? Cristina: I don't know. Each piece probably means something. Jack: You're right, because. Yeah, yeah. It's not just a science word, but rather it's specifically a medical word. And medical words are built of descriptors that tell us what it means ultimately. Cristina: So I'm gonna guess that. And if it's not that, it's based on someone's name. Jack: Okay. Okay. Cristina: Those are my two guesses. I don't know if I have a third guess. Third guess is, I don't know someone like that name. They had the word first. They're like, what could I make this word mean? Has anyone done that before? You give it a meaning. Like if you had the word cat before you had the animal cat. And then you're like, okay, I'm going to call that thing cat. Jack: Interesting. Interesting. So you're. You're. You're questioning right now how we come across the original idea to name a thing? Cristina: Yes. Jack: Well, the only people we would need to defer to would be, I guess, an inventor. How does an inventor go about naming a thing that didn't exist before, that they have created? And I guess ultimately it comes from previous components that you're aware of. A good example would be the invention of the iPhone. Although it's not the invention of a phone, it's the invention of a computer phone. And he used parts he knew, like the word phone already, and merged it with things. So if we think of that as just the most exaggeratedly basic version of it. Cristina: Like microwave. Jack: Yes, exactly. And it's kind of telling you something about it in a manner, shape, or form. It's using what you already know about the concept. So. Cristina: So at the end of the day, that goes with the first thing guess of what. Why the word is the word. It's just, it's. It's parts. Jack: Yeah. So it breaks down into the following. The medulla means marrow or innermost part. And in. In anatomy, it refers to the central part of an organ or the structure. Medulla. Cristina: Okay. And the rest. Jack: And then oblongata, derived from oblongas, meaning elongated or oblong. And they're both Latin. Cristina: Okay, what's the first one again? Jack: Medulla. Cristina: No, I mean what it means. Jack: It means marrow or innermost part. Okay, so it's the innermost elongated brainstem. Cristina: Okay. And that's what it actually is. Jack: It literally translates to elongated marrow. Cristina: Okay, but that's what it means also, the word. Jack: Yes, the word means elongated marrow. And the brain stem is the elongated marrow and the. Or the elongated marrow part of the brain. Some. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And it's Latin. So it comes from Latin and it means that, so. No, you're totally right. It's just explain a word explaining itself. Yeah, it's just a word. I mean, in science that tends to happen. 00:05:00 Jack: And it makes science one of the most elegant and direct languages. Because even if you have no idea, if you've never heard the word before, you can at least piece the word together. The. The words meaning together just based on what it is, that or how the. Cristina: Word is written, how the word is. Jack: Right, yeah. What went into creating the word. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Is all you need to know what happens in science, what's happening, what that word means a lot of the time, not all the time. Some things are ridiculous. Think what simple concepts like dark and black is used just for anything unknown. And sometimes, I mean, the fun thing is they're not fun thing. But the clever thing is it's always minus the darks and the blacks that are concepts we usually don't know. We slap that on something that has a question mark. The dark side of the moon. Simply because we don't see it, so we're less familiar with it. A black hole. It's because we can't study it. We can't see the inside of a black hole. We can only see its effect on everything minus that Science is a literal language. So literal, a lot of the time they'll just be like, like, Just like that. It's like the elongated brainstem, basically, that's just straight out telling you what it is. Cristina: Why did you choose that word? Jack: I don't know why I said that word, but now we know it came from. It's Latin and it means elongated marrow, which is basically just discussing the part that it's from. Anyways, today we're going to speak about current events that I've wanted to talk about, but we kept getting interrupted. And we're definitely. Cristina: Anymore. Jack: They're not current anymore, but we're still going to talk about them. Nevertheless. People are desperate to know what it is I've been trying to talk about for the last several weeks, but we kept getting sidetracked. But in the time that we have been waiting to discuss that, two very interesting things that we're going to quickly run through happened. And I want to talk about them before we get to this news that I've been trying to talk about. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And the first of the things as is the CEO. Dude. What the. Cristina: I don't really know what happened. I know he died. And I know the person who killed him. His name? Luigi. Jack: Luigi. Well, it's unclear if Luigi act is the guy. Cristina: What? Jack: He's just the guy who got arrested. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: It's unclear if he's the guy who actually did it. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Although, maybe. But the story goes that this guy's mother has some illness and she watched her mother suffer. I don't know if she died. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. His mother was suffering for a very long time, continuously getting turned down by that guy. I guess he got obsessed with the revenge scenario here. And one of the things that people digging around about the guy who got shot is that he runs the insurance company that turns down the most people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And so, yeah, interesting, right? Plot thickens. And so this guy hunted him down and killed him in the middle of street one day. Cristina: What? Jack: Yep. The shot him. Cristina: Okay. Whoa. And then why is he a celebrity now? For that. Jack: Okay. That's where it becomes interesting. And where the darks of the world are taking an interesting turn and where a lot of the things that are happening on earth kind of start to click together. First of all, people are valuing this guy as a hero because he did what a lot of people would do or wish they could. Not what they would do. What a lot of people wish they could do is hit the people who control your lives back for making Your lives s***** and them profiting off of every bit of that. He took that into his hands and really did it. People were like, oh my God. Yes. And he didn't do it selfishly. He did it for his mother. He has. There's paper trail. They know that. What the reasoning is. Cristina: Crazy. Okay. Jack: Now weird chain reaction that's happened is other CEOs are horrified. They've removed their social medias and they have removed their images from their websites from online, from their company things or whatever. These people who love showing off how rich and powerful the are suddenly removing the. The fact that they're rich and powerful from the eyes of other people. Cristina: Yes. I feel like, I don't know if it was this or before this, that there was this meme with Elon Musk covering his body with babies. I don't know if it had to do with this though. Jack: Weird. Cristina: But like he's going to use his children to defend himself against any shooters or something. Jack: It's because after a CEO got shot, the very next image of him, like the very next time 00:10:00 Jack: you see him, he was just always his kid. Cristina: Who? Elon Musk. Jack: Oh, he had a kid with him ever since. Cristina: Oh, that's awful. Okay, yeah. Jack: Interesting. But this brings up an interesting point. And, and it reflects a lot that's going on. So what this is. And a lot of people are kind of noticing it and it's. It goes into people like worshiping this guy and being like this. Do it to the rest of them and all this crazy. It comes down to we just saw one of the first rich be eaten by the poor. And it happened in public for everybody to see and realize, wait a minute. That guy who s**** on everywhere we eat is just like us. He's not a God. A random guy did it. A ra. I'm a rat. You're a random. Wait, we're all random people. That's all it took. Why did I think of him as some other thing? This insurance company did it to my family. It's a weird domino effect. Cristina: So you think this is just the first. Jack: I think we just saw one of the first rich get eaten. And I think like all things, cracks show before the dam breaks. The flood always arrives and somebody always notices and nobody listens to that person screaming, okay. Until the flood arrives. Cristina: So you think, you definitely think this isn't going to be the last time. Jack: I think that we are entering some really horrible state in time where I do. I do believe it's apocalyptic. I've been saying this for a While. And I genuinely do believe we have maybe within a couple of years, 10, 20. Cristina: Think this is a result of that, or this is just proof. Jack: This is more of the ball getting ramped up. We're in the apocalypse. It's been happening for like 20 years. If we were to say, like, when the. When would we think it began? Some point. The last 20 years. The apocalypse began that moment. Not the biblical apocalypse. Although they could say whatever they want. Short lines up. If you think about. And you want it to. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But the end of times as we know it has in fact begun in a logical kind of way, in a measurable kind of way. We see nuclear powers everywhere, all on edge, looking at each other, all wondering which one of us is going to pounce and take the rest of them. Yeah, we're one world government is going to happen. Which one of us is going to be. And it's that tension. Everybody's armed. If somebody slips up, we all die. Cristina: Mm. Jack: So when it happens, it's going to be a clean sweep. And everybody thinks they're the one who's going to do it. They're the one who has it figured out. Somebody makes a wrong move, we all die. Cristina: Yes, but it's gonna happen soon. Jack: Yeah, exactly. It's either gonna. One dude is gonna do it right, or it's rap. It's the end. We're here. I think we're reaching the great filter that scientists speak of. This thing that, like, why don't we see civilizations in space? It should be filled with them. We should be in. We shouldn't be able to escape seeing them all the time. And it's because maybe life happens everywhere, but there's some thing, some hurdle that happens sociologically or scientifically or something that stops you from making it. Nuclear power is dangerous. We are all so armed enough that if we launched everything, we could clean out the Earth. We have enough, and we've got it aimed in enough of a spread that even the places we don't hit are gonna be covered off and everything is gonna be snowing an ice ball for a long time. It's f***** either way. Nukes drop, everybody goes. Cristina: Everybody goes. Jack: Everyone goes. There's no solution to it. Everyone goes. And. Yeah, no, that's crazy. It's. I do think we're in that. And if we assume in the last 20 years that ball got rolling, then the George Floyd riots that spread out across the world, they spread out across the world. It wasn't just the United States. It was a country started. Yeah. Any country with Black people that felt oppressed rose up. It was riots in places. Cristina: And are people going to be rioting or are they writing for this? No, I don't know. Jack: I know. Think about the thing that happened with the Capitol. Was it rushed? Was it not? Did people incited that they. Not the moment. So impactful. The world knows about it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And it's this sort of 00:15:00 Jack: bubbling. It's slowly. The heat has been kind of. You see the water shaking, but it wasn't bubbles. And now we're seeing one here, one over there. Eventually that s***'s gonna boil, and that's when the s***'s hitting the fan. Right? And we're just seeing the first bubbles. This guy was the first bubble. It was the first crack on the. D*** it. We're seeing signs of whatever that first domino was. Either Trump getting elected, either the Twin Towers getting it. Either the first black president being chosen, either the queen dying. Something happened somewhere. Cristina: I think this is gonna be a new normal, horrible thing. Like the school shootings that keep happening. Jack: School shootings have happened within this time. It's not ex. Yeah, that's just that the school shootings is another part of it. We had rarities of one case here, then five years later, another case over there at some point. Three, four a year. Yeah, you just hear about it all the time. You're like, oh, yeah, another school shooting. Schools just have protocols now. They just teach your children. If a shooting happens, what you do, it's like, what the. How. How is that normal? Cristina: I don't know. But is this the next thing like that? Jack: It is. What? Cristina: Is this the next thing like that? Jack: I think there are a couple of things and this is one of them. Yeah, I think maybe not like that. I mean, I don't know. That's. Can you imagine if every other day. Cristina: But I think shooting and at the sea, some CEO. Jack: Yeah, well, I think not necessarily the shooting of a CEO, but there is a. Now that we talking about it. And it came to my mind and it has happened before. Not the shooting of the CEO. No, no, no. The mocking of the dead. Because it happened with the submarine. Those rich guys. That was the mentality everybody had, those rich guys. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And this happened again. And now. Yeah, that rich guy. It didn't. I didn't connect those two dots until this very moment. Cristina: But there is something there. Jack: There's something there. It's people like, yeah, see, that's the mentality. You can see people like, nah, it let it happen. Whatever them. It's like, d***, bro, that was Still a person, ultimately. But no. The mentality has shifted them. Let it happen. Let them all go through it. Whatever. I hope more go underwater and sink. And it's like, okay, you guys are getting going some dark place. Cristina: Mm. Jack: But it's not dark if it's normal. That's just where the people are. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You understand? That's the problem. Because if it's dark, other people are gonna be like, no, no, no, don't go there. The problem is everybody's in on it. It's not dark. Cristina: It's not dark. Jack: It's just where the people are. Dark is down from where you are. Everybody's in the same spot. That's just normal. That makes this normal. Everybody's on board. Every time it happens, everybody's on board. This is the second instance. Just as many people on board. Like, yeah, it. Okay, can't wait to hear about the next one. I mean, think about how messed up it is when they tried to hit the president. How many bastards online were like, well, next time, don't miss. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Think about how messed up that is. People are disconnected. They're down for it. Those are. Those are the cracks. We're seeing one here, one over there. They look unrelated. Oh, that kid was doing tricks against the d*** wall, and he was always hitting the same spot. He was there for months, always trying to land the same trick. Obviously, that's a crack from that. And that's crack over there is from when Mike hit it with the golf cart. He got it up here somehow. I don't know how he got it on the dam, but then he hit the wall, and that's why it's there. Unrelated cracks. There's nothing to worry about. That's happening with every instance. Oh, unrelated. No, this was the president, and he's. He is Hitler. Yeah, it's unrelated. That has nothing to do with it. Well, no, this guy's mom was going through the thing, and he was directly affected. That's unrelated. Jack: But is it. The reaction is the same every time. Is it unrelated? Maybe what's causing the moments is. Cristina: Yeah, but people's reaction. Jack: People's reaction isn't unrelated. That's just where we are. That's not unrelated. That's where we all are. Why? Weird. Interesting. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: And I think we're watching the dominoes fall. Very. Some mad metaphors. All the metaphors in the world. Is it a dam? Is it bubbling? Is it dominoes? Is it a snowball? Cristina: I don't know. It's the ending of Fight Club. Jack: Yes. Yes. We're watching Project Mayhem leave narrator's control, where he can't even realizing he's Tyler Durden. Tell the 00:20:00 Jack: guys, hey, guys, no, we can stop this. Look, I'm telling you to. And they were like, no, you told us that if. That if you tried to stop us. You're not you. You're some other you. It's like, oh, f***. I prepare for everything. This is totally out of my control. And, like, I think humanity is somewhere. I mean, dude, France has been in a war with itself. Cristina: This kind of makes sense because, like, if the government is secretly controlling everything, and then we're reacting this way because, like, we see that it's all fake anyway. Jack: That's the other problem. Oh, my God. Cristina: So why should we care? Jack: You bring up an interesting point. Because. Okay, I was just about to mentioning France right now. Right. With your point in mind. Well, that's what they show us. And why would they show us something they didn't want us to see? Cristina: If we know it's all fake, if the reactions these people are having aren't real, Especially the people telling the story, these journalists. Jack: It's all fake. So even. See, if I didn't see it myself, then the question would be somebody, maybe no CEO got hit. Maybe this is. This was the point of directing the mentality somebody is orchestrating. Somebody's out there with. With a little stick in a suit, standing over the planet, swinging his little stick and moving his hands around like we're an orchestra and we're slowly but surely being manipulated into states. There's a guy who's like, I want to be the only rich guy. I don't want to start having people eat rich people. Let's just make it normal water. The idea, though, is that then the. The concept here. Because everything is even the concept of the. Because they're not gonna show us things that are gonna make us think this. Either we broke through, which is possible. Social media is definitely a pain in the a** of people who liked lying. Or is it not? And that's also part of the illusion. Cristina: You think? Jack: No, maybe there can. I have entered states where I contemplate whether anything I've seen on the Internet was ever a real thing. How do we know? Even think about the concept of friends you've never met. Some people have messaged with individuals their whole lives that they've never heard their voice. How is that person real? Now, let's assume that what we know about the technology we have and our government held up always. Then 20 years ago, when The Internet began. That's just our introduction to it, because we know in the 60s, the Internet was created. Simple. But most people have no concept of this easel. Easy, easy to find. But most people are. Oh, the Internet began late 90s, early 2000s. Right. Assuming that's the logic, would they have equally by the beginning of us having the Internet, they have had all the tools already in place to control us and manipulate us. Since day one, it's always been there. It developed with that there. Obviously, if I wanted to message you because I've met you, there's also direct connection with the few people who are actually using the thing. Everybody else is spinning in the wheel, and nothing is real. Most of us are interacting with AI through AI for AI. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And I can still connect to you through the sea of AI and people around me are real. But we're all being manipulated by this one AI that's pretending to also be these other people who we've never seen, never met. And there's no way to do it. There's a few real people out there, but they would never want to. The fake ones would never want to really meet me. Oh, I can't because of this and blah, blah, blah. No, I'm living my life down there and whatever. Mm, interesting. So most of what you've always seen, forever, the entire time you've been interacting with the Internet, fake. The same way every newspaper that came out could have completely been fabricated stories meant to manipulate and sway your thought. You have no way of proving. No way of proving it. If the. Let's assume the newspaper was that the whole time. Maybe not the whole time. It was really about giving news. Little by little, power was taken from the newspaper somehow. Like a. Like a Facebook being influenced by the government and bending them somehow. Just like that, this happens. You have hands coming in from behind and slowly take over. And now newspaper is just propaganda machine. Fine, totally. But the Internet's about to come through. But wait with the newspaper company. And we sell bullshit for the government as the government is being built. Oh, they are paying us to make this thing where we're gonna give them, quote, news that the government can directly 00:25:00 Jack: modify however they want. We create templates, and they fill it in the blanks. Cristina: The government. Jack: The government or some. Or maybe tell us what to say. And maybe the whole time. And then Facebook comes in and, oh, Facebook is stealing our data. It's because somebody found out maybe it was doing it the whole time. It didn't start late. It was designed to do it. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: Somebody Found out. Oh, no. We're gonna change the thing. They just tightened security, so it's harder to find. Cristina: Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Jack: You get my point, huh? So it was always lying to you. You were never looking at anything. It's all. Nothing is real. I've gone into that space of mind a couple of times, and it would make sense. Cristina: With the Internet or with everything? Jack: With everything. If not the newspaper, then maybe some medium before the newspaper was the bull. Maybe the town square screamer guy. Cristina: Him? Jack: Yeah, maybe. Every time he came out, the king is like, well, tell them this. It ain't true, but whatever, okay? And that guy becomes the news guy, and then that guy sells the newspaper and that guy tells you the news on, like, an anchor. And then the news anchor becomes the influencer. And, like, ultimately, all these people you've never met and never seen aren't people. You're being sold bullshit. Controlled by people who are paid to sell you bullshit. Cristina: See? Jack: And, oh, a CEO got shot. Never happened. We think it happens, and everybody around us thinks happens because we all see the same thing saying, I think it happens. And then we all repeat that it happens, and we all believe it, and we have no way to disprove it. Cristina: Okay? Jack: It happens somewhere away from me. How am I gonna go prove it? How are you gonna prove it? Anybody who's not and anybody who's there. Did you see it happen? Oh, no. It happened down there. You've never met somebody who saw it happen. You never meet anybody who saw it happen. It happened. You were showed it happened. It happened here. And this time. Oh, how weird. I was a block from there and I didn't see it. I didn't hear gunshots. Cristina: Crazy, okay? But if I did, if I had to actually do that every time I thought, like, I had to know the story was real. If I really was that obsessed, you don't think I'd be able to do it? You don't think I'd be able to find someone that saw something? Jack: You could find somebody who's told to tell you that. How do you know that's not the case? You know? Okay, that's my point. How do we know? But anyways, outside of the point, that's just a headspace I've gone into several times associated with things. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And if we assume everything the government does is, everything media companies do is they're just trying to sell more ads. Everything is manipulated. Manipulation of the public. Why would this be the moment that decided to tell us the truth? That would literally put them, the controllers, in Ninja. Either we broke through, there's a puppet master somewhere, or I mean, I guess that's pretty much it. I would broke through, there's a puppet master somewhere. Cristina: This isn't true. Jack: Or this isn't true. Cristina: It's probably not true. I don't know. Jack: If there's a puppet master, it's not true. Cristina: If it is a puppet master, it's not true. Jack: Yeah, we're being manipulated into thinking it is. Well, so that then we revolt against rich people or something for somebody else's benefit somehow. Cristina: I don't know what the benefit is. I guess if the person that is fake dying could be just trying to hide. Jack: Interesting point. Cristina: Or just I'm tired of this life, let's go live a different life. So what's the best way to do it? Jack: CEO dies in public. Cristina: So then now he's no longer CEO. Now he's playing baker at some country somewhere else. I don't know. Jack: Interesting. Interesting. Cristina: Like death doesn't really have to mean death either. Jack: But then this goes actual back to the. The puppet master scenario. Somebody didn't actually die there. So what was the public. You didn't. You could just pay paperwork to say you died. Cristina: Want to make a big show about it? Well, because a lot of people know the CEO, I guess he needs to get. Make people he knows believe he said, yeah, it's not for us. Jack: Interesting. You think he got into some hot water? Yeah, maybe he's in some s***. Cristina: This is the way actual people with money have to get rid of the life that they're not happy with. They got the money for it. Jack: Got the money for it. An absurd amount of money. He could become anybody who wants. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Live the rest of his life perfectly fine. Interesting. So your argument is in a Black Flag event didn't happen. It was just a cover up. Cristina: Cover up? It could be a cover up. Jack: One big cover up. Cristina: I don't know. It all sounds insane, but like, how would you know? Jack: All of it sounds pretty crazy. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. The problem is nothing is provable. 00:30:00 Jack: Right? Cristina: But then what happened to this person? Luigi. Jack: Okay, so following the attempt, I guess the success. Following the success of this, other than people cheering him on, CEOs panicking. The cops went and hunted down a guy. They got some tips and they found him just sitting there at a coffee shop or something. A lady. An employee? No. Was it an employee? Yeah, I think it was an employee or a lady sitting there who was like, crap, I'll call and get in on it. Or whatever. But they're not getting the money anyways, apparently, because they called the cops, not the people who they were supposed to send the tip to. Cristina: What? Okay, someone's trying to make money. Jack: Yeah, they only did it for the money, so now they're a rat and everybody knows it. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: Also, they got doxed. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: That lady's information is all over the Internet. Cristina: Okay, so. But no, I don't want to care about here is crazy. Jack: What becomes interesting. They find a guy. The hoodie first. The problem is, I can't jump to what happened to the guy because in order to throw the cops off, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people just started dressing exactly the same to just make it exceptionally difficult. There are people just wearing the same green hoodie and, like, gray sweater or whatever the h*** he was wearing in the video. People just started dressing like that, either in honor of him or to throw the cops off. Regardless, the cops were very confused. There was too many people fitting exactly the same identity for days. Cristina: But then what happened, though? So they do get him. Jack: No, they get a guy. That's the. That's where the. That's why it's important that I say that. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Because the guy they caught, some dude called Luigi. People have broken down the video of the guy who did it. Now, I believe Luigi said he did do it, but people were like, that dude's kind of taking the fall for Luigi at this point. Because, I mean, Luigi's taking the fall for the guy who did it. These are two different heroes. Is the idea that people have. I've stumbled upon this thought a couple of times because the people dissecting the video where he shot the CEO have seen the mug shot and compared every single note. The guy you arrested did not suddenly grow a unibrow over the last two days versus the guy who shot, who was not. Cristina: There's a video of this, too. Jack: Hella breakdowns. People showing them. People are calling Luigi a hero because he's not letting the mystery shooter get caught. Now, again, I don't know if this is the actual truth. This is just the Internet's impression. And this hasn't been confirmed by any authority figure. This is people. But also the people who are least going to tell you the truth are the authority figures. And the experts are usually the people. Now, there's this theory, a psychology theory that's a very pronounced sociological effect. Weird phenomenon where individually people are stupid, but collectively they tend to be right with astounding precision. This is easy to prove as a test with A jar of marbles, A random number of marbles. You give people the same jar, different groups of people. Everybody's gonna be very wrong about how many marbles are in the jar when they guess. But collectively, they're gonna be almost on the mark. Cristina: When you, like, average out the number. Jack: Yeah, when you average out the numbers, they. They're always right. They're, like, within margins. I've seen the test on, like, YouTube. Get to. There'll be, like, 10,000 people, and they're within, like, 50 marbles of the right number, and there'll be, like, hundreds of thousands of marbles in the thing or whatever the h***. Just crazy numbers and the likes get there real with crazy precision. It never fails. This is why voting systems tend to really reflect what the people really think, because individually, everybody's stupid, but collectively, our thoughts mix into one cohesive thing. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And I think the people might be. Cristina: Right, but he's not the guy. Jack: He's not the guy. I think he's not the guy. I think this guy's just taking the fall. I think he's one of the many people who are like, you. Rock on, and you should be free because you did what we wish we had the guts to do. You're the hero, and we're the followers now. Cristina: But is there really a guy? Jack: There's a shooter, and there is a dead CEO, and there's a dude named Luigi, and he doesn't fit any of the characteristics. And the outfit he was seen while he was getting arrested with, which a bunch of people recorded, does not look like the same hoodie or 00:35:00 Jack: the same sweater. Cristina: He looked like the same. Jack: No, they were both green. It was. This is a green hoodie, like the guy in the video, and a sweater that was gray like the one in the video. But they were breaking down. This is the guy dressing like the dude and then claiming he's the dude. Because the dude in the videos hoodie has this cut. And you could see there, somebody pointed at a little pocket that he had here that this guy you arrested who's wearing the thing, doesn't have. And the. The unibrow that the guy in the video doesn't have, but the guy you arrested does. And somebody's pointing out the shape of his head. This guy looks kind of like a white guy. The guy you arrested is not. So a bunch of those going on, and it's like, man, the average here is. People are saying that dude isn't the guy. And then when you look at it, you're like, I mean, crap, you'd have to stretch it to say he is. Cristina: Okay, but so far he is. Jack: So far he is. According to authorities. Got him. Well, don't do it again. You're gonna easily get caught. Cristina: That's the end of that. Jack: That's the end of that. You see the problem? That's what they want us to think. Don't do it again. You will catch you easy. We're good people. Over 72% of all murders in the United States go unsolved. This statistic is provable. It's not something people should know. But. But just for your knowledge, that is a fact, you can Google this. Cristina: Murders go on. Jack: Most over 72% on average go unsolved. Most crime is unsolved. You have a group of people working on it. That is true. Most things go unsolved. We only report the ones we do. Think about that and look at your local statistics. You don't have to take my word for this. Now apply that logic and tell me they got the right guy. And they're not just saying that. Cristina: They always say they have the right guy. Jack: They always say they have the right guy. Cristina: We have to assume that they're wrong. They've always lied. Jack: They do that so you don't panic and decide. Or not panic. They do that because they're panicked. They don't. If they don't catch the guy, the next dude is gonna say, wait, he did it and got away with it. Cristina: And most likely we all did get away with it. Jack: Many, many, many. Most. Statistically speaking, seven. More than seven out of ten. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: More than seven out of ten got away every time. Cristina: But they're not gonna show us that. Jack: They're never gonna show us that more than 7 out of 10 get away every time. Cristina: So then the guy that they're showing us has to be alive, Statistically speaking at least. Yes. Jack: If we caught the guy who tried, the president. Two of them. Cristina: They can't be. Jack: You're not telling me that this guy is also you? Just all super mega agents, get the f*** out of here. No, nah, nah. You guys can't solve crap when it matters. You're solving this random s***. Yeah, for a CEO, dude. Nah, you don't believe it. You're trying to sell some, like, mountainous s***. All the other CEOs threw a bunch of money at this problem and they're like, he got caught. We don't give a f***. He got caught. Somebody put somebody and say he got f****** caught. Somebody's going to jail. They're not going to Be out there thinking he got out because then who the one of us is next. Get the f*** out of here. And that's where they all at right now. There's statistics. I'm not saying that's him. I'm not saying that's not. I'm offering you data, factual data. Nobody has to believe me on s*** right now. Go look online. Go look at your local statistics and you tell me I'm bullshitting. Most mergers go unsolved now. You don't even have to. You assume he's in that 30% that does get caught. Right? Or not he's in. Assume that the 30% plays out and that somehow. Now you go and look at the two pieces of evidence is all you need to do. You don't need to take my word for s***. Think everybody's crazy. Do start there. F*** it. Cristina: What? Jack: And you just go and look at the video. It's public as f***. Of the assassination. And look at the guy. Pause it. You could zoom in. And then you look at the guy they arrested. Do this at home. Pause the show. Cristina: Can we pause the show to do this? Jack: You want to look at it? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: All right. Okay. Okay. We looked. We couldn't find. How do I put it? Cristina: I found his brother Mario crying. Jack: Great. We. I. I found the video, but it's unclear whether the video was removed by the user or if the video was actually wasn't removed by the user because he could have just blocked it. It goes to the error page where it says the video couldn't be played. So the video is experiencing some playback issues. 00:40:00 Jack: Interesting. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Now, in looking for this, I have confirmed something weirder yet, which I don't know where I stand on because the sources include ABC News, cnn, USA Today, CBS, and fox. But this is very confusing because it's kind of getting to that. Some event happened recently where we didn't know what was true. And we were like, this is probably the point. They want us confused. This guy was not insured by the company at all. At least the guy they arrested has zero connection to the United Health Care. Cristina: He. Jack: His parents were not insured by that company. His mom was not insured by that company. I think he lied. But what's complicated about this is the guy who got arrested was found with a notebook. Well, he wasn't found with a notebook, but in his home there was a notebook that was essentially tracing the CEO's footsteps. So it's the guy, but the story's a lie. Cristina: Okay. He's stalking this guy. Jack: He's been Stalking the CEO that he killed. He was planning to kill the guy. Cristina: For a while, but there's no real reason of why he did it. Jack: The reason he gave is a lie. Cristina: Okay? Jack: Because he was not insured by that. And a guy doing the thorough work he had, he would have known that's not the guy. So he told a story, although it's the story we're going with. But he wasn't insured by United Healthcare at all. Again, it looks like the intent here is confusion because that's too conflicting. I wish I remember what the recent thing that happened that was kind of like this was where it looked like the intention was confusion. Like, who's the bad guy here? Cristina: I think it was the dead bodies. Not the dead bodies. The mysterious crates. Crates on boats that were going somewhere that could have been bodies. Like there was always stories about something happening. But I don't think they found the bodies. They're just like something weird's happening. Jack: I think also covet as well the amount of like contradictory. But I think that was a cover up. I think they were trying to cover that up and because it was slow. Cristina: How many things are just cover ups? Jack: I think a lot of things are cover ups because his government up here and there's. Cristina: Okay, is this a cover up? Jack: I don't know if this is a cover up. I don't know. I don't know what the h*** I just read. This is crazy. I don't know. Then what the. Did he shoot the guy for what the? Cristina: Because he. See, he's a CEO, so you pick. Jack: Why he just tracked this guy at random and like this one out of a hat. Cristina: Yeah, we don't know. Jack: Yeah, it's not. It's weird. It's definitely strange. Luigi Mangione was not insured by United Health Care. Cristina: That's why he did it. Because he's not insured from them. I don't know. Jack: Which means it couldn't be denied by an insurance company that he was not involved with. Yeah, no, it's just a weird, like. I don't know. Anyways. Anyways, that's one of the two informations. Interesting. Cristina: I don't know if we learned anything. Jack: No, we didn't learn anything. But I just wanted to talk about that real quick. The second thing we got to talk about really quick, which is we didn't ground it, though. Cristina: We ungrounded. Jack: We were. We were. We were grounding it. And then I read that part. Yeah, Yeah. I got more informed and it stopped being grounded the moment it flew away. I mean, how do we. We were so close, too. I think. Think, like, oh, man. I don't know. How do we make this make sense? There's some information missing here. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: We'll probably return to it. We'll come back another day. We'll see what we. What we learn in a week. Cristina: Okay. Jack: The second piece of information is the aliens. Cristina: Aliens everywhere. Jack: Everywhere. Cristina: Always. Jack: All the time. Cristina: All the time. That's weird. Jack: Yep. Cristina: But they're not aliens. They're just droids. They just say droids. Drones and drones. Yeah, that's drones. Jack: Chinese drones. Cristina: Are they Chinese drones? Jack: I don't know. We'll say whatever the h*** is Chinese. I don't know. The government told us it's Chinese. There's the news. Or somebody told us it's Chinese. How do we believe it? Cristina: Does it look Chinese? Jack: How would we know what a Chinese drone looks like? Cristina: Does it just look like a normal drone? 00:45:00 Cristina: I try to look at videos. It just. It? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Jack: Drones got, like, a general look. It doesn't look like any other drone. Cristina: But they're trying to make it look like a ufo, too. Like it's a drone. But it's round. Jack: Yes. Okay, so they've been seen all over the country. Primarily in New Jersey. Weird. Cristina: Weird. Weird New Jersey. Jack: Weird New Jersey. Always attracting the aliens. Always attracting the ghosts. Cristina: They're here for the big fit. Jack: The big fit. Cristina: The Bigfoot. The Bigfoot that's here. Jack: Maybe they're just here for, you know, the Jersey Devil. Cristina: We also have that, so. Jack: You know what's funny? You know what's the funniest part about this? They are hanging out in this area. They're in the area where Clinton Road is. I didn't even think about this. They are hanging out. Out here. What the h***? There's no escaping that place. Cristina: This place is supernatural. Okay? Jack: Yeah, there's something weird here, and they're. Cristina: Just checking that out. Jack: Especially as something like something's happening with humans right now. Cristina: But if they. Dish, you found the drone. Jack: It's not alien, robot. It's It. It. If it is an alien drone, then they didn't send a fleshy meat sack inside of it. Cristina: Why would they do that? Jack: It's just not. Yeah, it's dumb. It's just technology floating around. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Now, we shot it down looking at that video. It's just technology. Normal. It didn't look alien or foreign. It's just technology. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Okay. So that's what it looks like. Cristina: That's what it Is somewhat like a plane. Jack: Looks somewhat like a plane. Looks like a government drone. Cristina: And what does that mean? What does it mean? If it's just a government drone, why are they in New Jersey? Jack: That explains why our government immediately blames China. Cristina: China sent their government drones here. Jack: No, it's because it's the easiest, quickest, fastest, immediate go to response anytime our government does anything themselves. Cristina: So you think they're doing something and they're covering it up by blaming China. Jack: We can't prove them wrong. Cristina: They really shouldn't do that because then it makes it sound like maybe China has control of our drones. And that's even. That's. That's the fear. Why are they trying to spread that fear? But I don't think they're trying to spread that fear. But now that's the fear. Jack: Anytime we don't like something, they blame China as to build some sort of enemy with them. Cristina: But like, if that were the truth, that's pretty horrible because it's clearly our. Ours. It's us. Jack: Well, no, all drones across the world that are usually military drones look the same. Cristina: Oh, okay. Jack: It's not just ours drones. Cristina: It may not. Jack: There's different kinds of drones. The ones that look like floating saucers are more sports drones that they got four propellers and can do all kind of weird acrobatics. Military drones tend to just be planes that can do direct strikes. Cristina: And you think it's someone else's. You don't think it's ours? Jack: I didn't say either. I think our government is saying it's China. And like, I don't trust our government. It's full of. And it's probably our governments. Cristina: If it's our. Whether either way is kind of bad because it's a lot. It's not like one. They're sending one. It's a bunch. Jack: We're seeing mass observation. If it is our government, then they are creating mass observation for indefinite surveillance of the whole population. They are testing out the military state. Cristina: And that's kind of crazy. Yeah. And everything I read, like, I couldn't read about us shooting one down, even though that one looks like it was shot down. But there's a bunch of articles saying don't shoot them down. Jack: Yeah, interesting point. Cristina: They're saying not to, like. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. If those are your things, you don't want people to be shooting them down. Like so. Jack: Yes. Interesting. Interesting fact. They are telling. I mean, of course, if it's theirs. Cristina: Yeah. But like, why? What if they've lost control of their own drones. Jack: That'd be crazy. Cristina: Like, would they tell us that? Jack: Why would your drones come to New Jersey? Cristina: I don't know. But because, yeah, that. That shows that they truly don't have any. Jack: Look at. There's no strategic advantage to coming over here. Nobody in New York is like, we saw drones. Cristina: No, but I. I think they're spreading. I think some people are seeing them. Jack: In PA and in Maryland. Cristina: Yeah. So it is spreading. Jack: Interesting. Cristina: Why started here? I don't know. Jack: I mean, government surveillance is weird. That is definitely one answer. Yeah, it is a possibility. Government surveillance, which. Oh, my God. Cristina: This might be black. 00:50:00 Cristina: Mira. We might have lost them. Jack: We could have lost them. Or no, it's intentional. Is it coincidence that the CEO thing happens and the President's attempt happened and that we mocked the people in the submarine and we're at a day and age when the rich and the powerful are trying to legislate moderation of the Internet and control and censorship. And then, then drones start showing up, watching people and things kind of. When you look at all the parts, it looks like the people are getting out of control. Initiate the protocol to take control of everything. Cristina: But as far as we can tell, they're not really doing anything. Jack: It would be slow. You can't do anything quickly. Remember Hitler's teachings. Why? A wise man once said, it's more effective to gradually change the rules than it is to make one mass big sweep. You do annoying small things that. So you take the big problem, you take the giant rule you don't want them to freak out about, and you break it into all the separate parts that make that rule up, and then you just little by little, change those to the other side. They're not going to see the bigger picture. You made it about the little thing. And they're going to react a little thing and react a little thing. But then it's nuanced and boring and stupid, and it doesn't really affect them in any big way. Cristina: So you think there's more steps to this? Jack: I think there's a thousand steps. And I think everything is unrelated looking and small and nuanced. Cristina: Part of the apocalypse, Part of the. Jack: Apocalypse, Part of as we know it, it's ending. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: I don't know what's going on. It is crazy. And. And again, it would fit the picture right? It's. It wouldn't make this a separate set of news from the CEO being shot. It would make it an inevitable result of people in power hitting panic in the last couple of Months or years. And initiating all sorts of things to assure their own safety against who they deem to be the peasants, which would be. These drones are created by the rich and powerful to watch all the people and make sure that they are safe. Cristina: But why start in New Jersey is really funny. Jack: That would make the most sense if that was the case. Where do all the rich people go? The ones who don't want to be. Cristina: In the public eye saying they're in New Jersey? Jack: Montclair, New Jersey. West Orange, New Jersey. It's close enough to New York that they can still accomplish all their money needs and get home within the hour. Cristina: Okay. What? I don't know. There's too much going on. It's definitely not aliens. Jack: At least it's definitely not aliens. Based on the information we have, the thing surrounding it. It's humans. And quite possibly it's our own government drones. It's not even, like, advanced technology. The one shot down looks kind of standard. It's just military grade, which is problematic, don't get me wrong. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, but. And the fact that our government is like, don't shoot that. Definitely foreign military technology down. What? What? So we're just. You're telling us it's China. What's the alternative here? We're China's now, and you're just not saying it out loud. Yeah, I doubt that. You say that the bad guy too often. Let's shoot him down, everybody. Shoot him down, everybody. Cristina: If that is China, then China won and now they control us. Yeah, like, is that the conclusion? Like, I guess China rules. Jack: I guess. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: They won the race to the one world government. Cristina: I guess. So, like, this is the start of that. Jack: Nah, that. Shoot him down. Don't listen to anything anybody tells you. If it's not your drone flying over your property, shoot it down. Doesn't matter how big it is. Shoot it down. Cristina: You might get hurt. Jack: Huh? Cristina: Now you might get hurt. Jack: No, get out of its way. You shoot it down in the opposite direction of where you are. You watch it. Oh, it's in front of me and it's coming my way. Okay. I'll wait until it's directly over me and shoot it. It's gonna fall somewhere to the other side. Cristina: Mm. Okay. Jack: Don't get hurt. Just shoot it down. Shoot him down. F*** that. Don't listen to anybody who's like, no, they're alien. They're foreign technology by our enemies. Also. Let it doing. Nah, f*** that. If it's foreign technology, that's spying on you, Shoot it down. If it's your government lying to you, shoot it down. There's no reason they could come up with for you to not shoot it down. That's justifiable and logical. They're gonna try to gaslight you. I swear to God they're going to. Don't listen to them. This sounds like a load of s***. It doesn't matter which side they try to flip it. 00:55:00 Jack: It's just a bunch of. Shoot it down. Don't hurt anybody. Don't go do what some of these maniacs is. Yeah. Cristina: Didn't you say someone got hurt or something? Someone died. Jack: Oh, yeah. No, fair enough. Somebody got. Yeah, they did shoot it down and hit somebody on the highway. Cristina: Yeah. So that's probably the reason they're telling people not to shoot it down. Jack: Fair. Fair. Cristina: It was big enough to kill someone. Jack: Shoot them down in the woods. Make sure it's flying in the direction that there aren't people. There you go. Shoot those down. Now. If they start to strategically plan their flights in the direction of people because they. They take note of this, then. Then whatever. Consider your safety over everybody else's and do what you got to do. They gotta come down. They're spying on us. Cristina: They're spying on us. Jack: If it's the enemy. Enemy spying on you if it's home. Well, home is the enemy now. And they're spying on you. Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty bad either way. Jack: It's pretty bad either way. If it's aliens, they're spying on you and like, they're. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: I mean, I don't know what you could do. Cristina: It doesn't really. You can't. Like, even if you shoot it down, then it's not gonna accomplish. Jack: No. Another one will be replaced probably. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Quickly. They won't care. They could cross space. They probably got infinite numbers of those things. Cristina: Yeah. It's already too late. If it's aliens, it's too late. So it doesn't matter, I guess. Jack: Yeah, that's legit. If it's aliens, it's too late. There's nothing we can do about that. Cristina: Yeah, but if it's not, Just shoot it down safely. Safely. Jack: Safely shoot it down. Try to avoid people getting harmed. Cristina: But. Jack: But on the. On the offside. This isn't foreign or from home. What, it's just a plane. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: On the flip side, maybe the guy only shot the wrong drone. And that's not. Because if you look at some of the other videos and images, it kind of looks Like a weird alien craft, like a flying saucer or some s***. Cristina: So you think the government threw the up their drones around the area where the alien drones are, and that's why they don't want you to shoot any drones because you might destroy the government's drones that are. Jack: Maybe they're trying to study. What the h***? Interesting point. Cristina: There's some weird drone war happening right now, and they don't want us involved in it. Look, so it's easier just to say it's China, but leave it alone. Jack: When you look up, you're gonna see either the stars or drones, and they're gonna be at war. So while this Star wars is happening. Cristina: Horrible. Okay? Jack: And it's a Clone War that's happening. Don't shoot anything down. Let that Star Wars Clone wars happen. Can you imagine if I could do that indefinitely with random topics and just speak in titles? Cristina: Titles. That's horrible. That's horrible. And I hate it. I think everyone else hates it too. Jack: If you didn't know the reference, it would be fine. It's only if you knew the reference that you're like, you clearly like. Cristina: But then once you add Clone wars, it doesn't really make sense anymore. Jack: Why? That's the name of the movie. Star Wars Clone. Cristina: No, but, like, what does this relate. Where's the clone in this? Jack: Oh, crap. You're right. Cristina: It should actually connect to what's happening. Jack: Oh, the problem is here's. Here's where I messed up. Here's where the logic happens. The clones were created to fight the drones. Cristina: Okay? So you have to actually know what's going on in Star wars to get it. Jack: There's no clones in this, so it doesn't make sense. It made sense in my head when I remembered that the clones are actually controlled by the same people who own the drones. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Yeah, that's the real story. The people who own the clones own the drones. This fake proxy war to acquire more. Cristina: Power, maybe that's what this is. Jack: I guess. I guess. Cristina: Yeah, but powerful. Jack: Who from the people. The. The only thing we have to take. Cristina: Him if whoever's running China somehow. This is a show for China to show our capability if they decided to attack us like this. Jack: You think there's an invasion? Cristina: Dude, here's the argument. Jack: Here's the argument. Here's the argument taking just. Let's assume we're not being lied to. News media is correct and government statements are true. These are Chinese drones spying on the east. We have Chinese actual planes and spy planes checking 01:00:00 Jack: us out in the west, you want us to be safe. You have the border on the south letting through, on top of everybody else, a wave of, for some reason, Chinese immigrants coming from the south into the country that are being driven in buses directly to New York City with the rest of the South American immigrants. Bro, if we just take what you're telling us at face value. Do you want us to think a war is about to happen and are you about to start attacking the people? Is China invading? That's one. If not, are you using this as a means you're feeding? You're telling us this is all true. You're telling us. Government's telling us. You want us to think that there's an invasion happening so that you can invade ourselves. You're gonna attack us and blame them. Is that the goal here? Cristina: Or to have a reason to attack them? Jack: Or have a reason to attack them? Fair enough. Both. Maybe do both. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Attack them and say, oh, they're everywhere among us. We have to take control so we can weed them out. Out martial law until we find them. And they'll never find them. Cristina: So you think. Jack: Why are you telling us that all of this is Chinese? The Chinese with the Russian to the west, Chinese drones to the east, Chinese immigrants. There's no China beneath us. They took planes and technology there and migrated through the southern border. How the f*** this sounds like an invasion, bro. Like a strategic one too. Really good one. Cristina: But it's not an invasion if we're letting it happen and we know about it and we're helping them. Like it's not. It's ownership, it's something. Exactly. So are we already. Have we lost already? Or is. Are we just saying China's the bad guy when China's actually the secret puppet master this whole time? Jack: I don't know. They are the aliens we see in our skies and our government selling us. No, and those are not aliens. Those are the Chinese. Don't hurt them. And yeah, don't hurt that thing that's also in the West. Looking over one of our most important access points. Actually one of the most important access points on Earth, Anchorage. They're just hanging out by that. Russians and Chinese, the people we have over here on the East. Casual. Also, we got crazy beef with the Russians that they're hanging out over there with. Especially because we just green lit their direct war competitor to use weapons that are going to attack their people and their leaders deep into their country anyways. Yeah, don't shoot that plane down. What the. Does that mean? What? Confusion. Yeah, all the information Is conflicting all of the time. It's like, did Luigi do it? Weirdly enough, the spaceships that we're seeing and the guy shooting the CEO are all one f****** story. It's a weird control thing happening, and there's a bunch of confusion everywhere. Intentionally, it seems intentional. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Weird. Cristina: Mm. What? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Nothing makes sense. Jack: Nothing makes sense. Confusion looks like the goal. Like, it absolutely looks like part of the plan. Here is a bunch of information. We saying this. We're saying that we're all legitimate sources. According to what we're saying. It's like, what? What? Dude, you said that's the bad guy. You said they're a threat. You said they're trying to spy on us. You said, there's nothing worse to our security than China. Also, those are Chinese drones. And also, don't touch them. Let them be. Cristina: Yes. Jack: At in the same breath that you're telling us the most dangerous nuclear power on earth that directly hates us is teamed up with them watching our western border. And you're like, no, it's all good. You just had a training. Nah, nah. When you put it all together, bro. Nah. Cristina: What's happening then? Jack: I don't know. I don't know. It looks weird. Cristina: It looks very strange. Jack: But everything does lately, because it's falling apart, I think. Again, my theory is the grasp for total control because the people are. They're over it. Cristina: But then is any of this anyone or is this us? Jack: I don't know. I don't know if somebody. That's the crazy part, right? Because it comes back to how much of this is true. If everything is being controlled. Did we break through and show a CEO? No, because it's on everything. It's everywhere. Cristina: So it's all fake or real? Jack: One or the other. That's the problem. And that's the other issue. If it's all fake. It's always been fake. We've never been told the truth. We have an idea what reality looks like. The people who know have always lied to us about it. Cristina: Yeah, that could be it, I think. Jack: Weird. Cristina: Yeah. 01:05:00 Cristina: I gotta find some of these drones. That I'll know. Jack: Anyways, those are the two things I quickly wanted to talk about. Now we can talk about the point of this episode, which is supposed to. Oh, crap. Cristina: What? Jack: We're way over the time. Cristina: Oh, all right. Jack: Yeah, we're gonna have to do this next time. Cristina: No one is gonna care. Jack: They care. And look, I promise we're gonna get to this. It's important they need to know our thoughts on these matters. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And we're going to get to it. Except we don't have time for that today. So next time we're gonna talk about this. But today we unpack those aliens. Cristina: Did we? Jack: Yeah, there's no aliens. Cristina: I guess so, yeah, we did that part. Jack: And we also made more sense with the story of the aliens. Made way more sense of the story of Luigi. Cristina: Oh, yeah, it's all fake. Jack: It's all fake. It's all grounded. It's definitely feasibly a bullshit narrative made up by a bunch of different. So it's one of two things. Either yes, all of it is fake or all the parts are true. Either some dude really did kill a CEO, and that's not somebody trying to trigger you. Somebody broke through and decided to do the thing and the people cheering it on are real people. And there's a thing about to happen. There's a thing that's about to happen. Cristina: That's why we got these droid drones to stop this from happening. Jack: Exactly. The drones. So most of the news is true and people are spotting the rich people's attempt to solve their own fear. Yes, or all of this is f****** true. And those are not ours. That's an invasion. What's happening in the south is an invasion. And what happened with this guy is not real either. That's some stage situation done by the people who usually want to trick you into wanting to go to war with people. If you believe 911 was an inside job to have an excuse to go invade a place, then the drone excuse is the same logic. And there's nobody out west either. That's bullshit. We're just looking for reasons to convince the people that we need. And if we. The more riled up we get, the people the more riled up. So next thing we're gonna find out is that somehow this guy's an insurance company, was owned by some Chinese crap. Whether it's true or not. Oh, they had investors who were Chinese and making money off of whatever. Whatever the h*** we're going to be like. Oh, China. Cristina: Go to every story and see how all of them, any story you've ever heard is related to China. Jack: I bet. Bare minimum. I think it's like using nothing but FOX and cnn. We can connect any story back to China. Okay, then I guarantee you I'm almost. I'm like 99.91% sure that I can. Using no other sources. If they've talked about it, I could probably find the Mention of China in the article, even if they're not directly blaming it. Don't write the word China because it's part of the agenda. You need to think China associated with this article somehow. Cristina: Yes. Okay. Jack: Officials theorize maybe it was China or spectators were believing it was a Chinese. You know, just structured in a way that the thought, oh, Chinese put it up there. Even if they're saying they didn't, but then you'll read it later, they think China put it up there. Before long, even if all of them told you China didn't put it up there, you kept hearing China put it up there. Cristina: Yes. Jack: People definitely think China put it up there. We're not saying they did. People definitely think that, though. That guy over there thinks that. We spoke to these people of some expert think we don't. We're just reporting random crap. Some expert think. Some probably experts. We've deemed experts who were these experts. But with these experts, they think China put it up there. Before long. They never said it was China. No, but I'm sure with all of. Cristina: Them, they're always doing that. Jack: Subliminal messaging everywhere. Cristina: Yeah, the masters of it. Jack: Anyways, if you guys have any input, any thoughts on this Luigi character, any thoughts on that shooting, that murder, any thoughts on these alien drones that are really Chinese drones, that are really American drones that aren't real at all. They're probably just birds. Cristina: It's just birds. Jack: It's just birds. Robot birds. Government. Yeah, it's government birds. That's it. Okay, if you guys got any input on any of that, let us know, as well as how excited you are to hear the news. I got to share with you guys about the research I've done. Anyways, you can tell us about all these things on our socials at just convopod, on Tick Tock, on Instagram, on Facebook, on X. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the 01:10:00 Cristina: show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most exaggerated thing in the world. Tell them we've solved it. We figured it out. We know who did the thing, why they did it, and what comes next with profits. Tell them we can tell the future. Cristina: All right, this has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. It. Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Cristina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Elin Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black. 01:11:11

Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse

In a world rife with uncertainty and chaos, the concept of the apocalypse has been a recurring theme throughout human history. From biblical tales of Noah's Ark to modern-day fears of viral outbreaks, the notion of an impending end has captured our imagination and shaped our beliefs. In this week's episode, we dive into the absurdity of apocalyptic predictions and explore the myriad ways in which humans interpret the idea of the end. Our hosts, Jack and Cristina, embark on a rambling journey that questions the very fabric of our understanding of apocalypses. They ponder whether multiple apocalypses could occur without us even noticing, drawing parallels between historical accounts and contemporary fears. With a playful yet thought-provoking tone, they dissect the narratives that have been passed down through generations, questioning their validity and relevance in today's society. One of the standout moments in the episode is the discussion surrounding the Great Flood, a story that has been interpreted in countless ways across different cultures. Jack argues that if the flood was indeed a historical event, it may have been localized, leading those who experienced it to believe they were the last survivors on Earth. This perspective invites listeners to reconsider the stories they’ve been told and challenge the narratives that shape their beliefs. The conversation takes a fascinating turn as they explore the role of government in societal collapse. Cristina suggests that the most likely apocalypse could stem from a viral outbreak, one that might be inadvertently released by those in power. This theory resonates with recent global events and raises critical questions about trust, control, and the lengths to which authorities will go to maintain order. As the episode unfolds, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own beliefs and the absurdity of trying to predict the future. Jack and Cristina emphasize that while we may never know the exact nature of an apocalypse, the discussions surrounding it reveal much about human behavior and our desire for understanding in an unpredictable world. Join us for this engaging and thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional thinking about the apocalypse. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, there’s something for everyone in this lively exploration of humanity's most baffling ideas. Tune in now and share your thoughts on what you believe the future holds!

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  • Predictions from Nostradamus and the Simpsons
  • The concept of multiple apocalypses
  • The absurdity of our understanding of reality

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Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And as always, we're going to do that today. Now, last week, we went on a crazy rampage trying to ground. To do our job. To do our job. We're trying to do our job. And so we did that. But I had other plans at the beginning, and we never got to that. So this week, we're definitely going to get to it. Now, the world goes crazy randomly. Time repeats and events repeat. And people think the world is ending all the time. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Recently even did an episode about the apocalypse and which one we thought was. Was more likely. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because the apocalypse is coming. We're here to tell you the apocalypse is coming. I'm sure that if it repeats, then. Cristina: It'S never coming because we'll always have a period where we're like, the apocalypse is coming. Jack: But what if doesn't come? What if. What if multiple apocalypses happen? Cristina: Wouldn't we have noticed? Jack: Well, no, we. We're alive after it. Let's just think about it. Let's just use the Bible as an example. The Great Flood killed almost everybody. It was one family left that was on the ark. Allegedly. According to the story, they then repopulated Earth. That was the apocalypse. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Now there's evidence of a great flood. And there's a lot of stories to talk about the same moment from different points of view of the ark. Obviously, it's a mythological story that probably holds no real bearing, but that was the apocalypse. Cristina: What about the last one? That was supposed to happen. That didn't happen. Jack: Well, no, there's probably a bunch of. It's gonna happen and doesn't. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And then some actual apocalypses. Like the apocalypse has happened and we're here after the apocalypse happened. Oh, and we're gonna have an apocalypse. We see our apocalypse isn't. There's. There's not the apocalypse. Instead, I believe what we should be saying is an apocalypse. Cristina: Apocalypse. Jack: Yeah. There's an apocalypse coming. Cristina: Okay. But has nothing to do with what anyone's talking about. Jack: Well, that's what. That would be my next point. Right. Maybe somebody's figured it out. Like, there's a lot of random ideas. Somebody's got to figure it out. Right. Cristina: I don't. I guess. Like, you mean like just randomly. Jack: Not randomly. Maybe somebody really like it's everybody piecing whatever they can together in whatever way makes most sense to them. All religions and sciences do all the same thing. Cristina: Because were they talking about it before it happened? And with the flooding, where people like, an apocalypse is coming. It's going to be zombies, it's going to be war. It's going to be. Jack: I do believe. Cristina: And then it ended up being water. Jack: I think. Cristina: I think. Jack: Well, yeah, think about it. They. He was literally telling people according to the story, which means somebody was telling people there were announcements of a flood coming, but some people were believing it and some people weren't. Let's say that the. The. Cristina: But were other people spreading other stor. Stories of like, no, there is an apocalypse coming, but it's not water, it's fire. Jack: What would me. I don't know. Cristina: Whatever. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because that's what's happening now. I'm saying, like, there's not one person saying one thing and then everyone's what, believing it or not believing it? Oh, I'm sure a million things. Jack: No, I'm sure. I'm sure there was a billion different things happening at the same time. Maybe some thought it was the flood coming. Some people thought maybe the. Whatever civilization was over the hill was gonna come and kill them all or pillage them all or. Cristina: Mm. Jack: And that that was gonna be the end. Some people thought, no God is gonna come take us all literally. Cristina: I think people still think that, though. Yeah. Yeah. Jack: But I think that's the case. I think that maybe there were multiple apocalypses. And I think people. There were people that believed many different apocalypses were gonna happen, but only one. Cristina: Is the real one. Jack: Only one is a real one. It's like religion, the apocalypse. I mean, I guess. No, I guess you're the same. I guess it's the same thing. Religion and the apocalypse are the same thing. You can't have a religion without the ap. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because then what would it be? Right? Like. Or not. Let me correct that. That's wrong statement. 00:05:00 Jack: You can't have heaven without the apocalypse because everybody is gonna go get punished and the ending for everybody's coming, and one day there's gonna be nothing. Unless, I guess, no, you can fix that problem. You could say that Earth is indefinite, but everybody will one day die and transition to heaven. That means that Earth can go on indefinitely and that heaven will still exist. So never mind. You. That's also a lie of a statement that I made. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But you kind of. It's like all religions, or most have an apocalypse scenario. The World is ending is part of it. Cristina: But you think one of them have it, right? Jack: One of them might. I'm not saying one of them do. I'm saying one of them might. Cristina: Okay. Because someone might have came up with. Jack: Yeah, there's too many. There's over, what, 8 billion of us trying to figure it out. Everybody has an idea of what's right and what's wrong and how it kind of works. And like, I'm sure enough of us have enough pieces that maybe we've talked collectively. You know, that seven degrees of separation where everybody kind of knows each other indirectly somehow. The one person who needs to know the thing knows the thing, and he has all the parts and he knows it. Cristina: I don't know if he needs to know anything. I think it's just random chance that you'll just know. Say the thing you think that it is and it's right. Like it's just. Jack: But you don't think somebody figured it out? Cristina: I don't. I don't know. It could be just by accident. It could equally be either or. Jack: How if it's hyper specific. That's crazy. Cristina: It could be either or. Jack: Oh, my God. Were you the one who showed me that thing? That, that. That phrase. Not the phrase, the quote of the guy saying that we are. Yeah, it was you. That we are the. Cristina: The monkeys that end up writing Shakespeare. Jack: Yeah. Earth is. We're an infinite number of monkeys that continue to breed and make more monkeys. And we literally already wrote. Cristina: Right. Shakespeare. Jack: We already wrote Shakespeare. Cristina: Yes, that's exactly the apocalypse. It's just. It's just random chance that the one person will have the right answer, but no one's gonna believe them because we're all trying. We're all saying something different and we. Jack: All want to believe our thing. Yes, whatever. You're not special. You couldn't figure it out before me. Cristina: So it's gonna happen. Sure. But I don't know if it's because he really, truly figured out. I mean, he could have, but it doesn't really make a difference. It's just gonna happen. It's. It has to happen that someone is gonna have it right, whether they really thought about it or not. Because time. Jack: No. Well, the apocalypse is gonna happen regardless. But who got it right and how did they get it right? I think. I think if it's really specific, they could get it right. But then there's that argument of, like, absolute random chance and, like, I don't know. But also I think. I think it's purposeful and random. At the same time, if that makes sense. Like, Hamlet was not written by accident. The person who wrote it did it with intent. Now, within the universe, it seems completely random. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But it's our scale. It seems intentional. And that brings up a weird question about reality. You know, size and, like, what looks intentional and what doesn't. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because I guess if you zoom out far enough. Total random tangent here. But if you zoom out far enough, human behavior might look absolutely random. It's chaotic and I guess. And if you just back up enough, we just randomly kill each other, go into war and around our peace with each other at random moments and just. We're just crazy. But up close it makes sense. Cristina: Yes. Jack: I guess this applies logically to everything. Yeah. Same thing happens with, like, outer space. Right. You. You look at anything, it's like, oh, space is just chaos and random. But you zoom into an atomic level. This atom is responding to that atom simply because it was moving in this direction. And everything reacts that way. There's a. You could predict how it's going to go simply based on understanding it at a granular level. And you think unrelated. That was just an unrelated tangent. Cristina: That's what made me think of. It's not that someone will come up with an answer. Jack: I mean, somebody might. Cristina: That's just gonna be in the Simpsons episode. Jack: Here's the problem. Simpsons do a lot of random crap, so it always looks like they're predicting junk. But I think the problem there is the Simpsons have this. How do you call it? You know, these people who. Not pro. I guess it's a prophet. What is Nostradamus. He's like a fortune teller, right? Cristina: Who? Jack: Nostradamus, the dude who has a book. Who predicted a bunch of crap in the future. Cristina: Oh, yeah. I guess. Jack: And like, oh, my God. So much of it came true. And it comes down to, like, you. Cristina: Know, if you're just. Jack: You've had thousands of predictions, Homie. Cristina: Yeah. Like a few of them eventually 00:10:00 Cristina: will be true. Yeah. Jack: And the Simpsons has how many seasons they've been around for how long? Cristina: How many are wrong versus how many are right? Jack: Yeah. How many episodes go by that you couldn't say they predicted something for before something happens that you say they predicted something for? Cristina: Yes. Jack: You know, and it's like they're cherry picking. Cristina: Yeah. Like, if you saw the actual dicks of all of that. Jack: Yeah. It's such an infinitely small amount of things they got right versus things they got wrong. Cristina: But they still probably will come up with it. Jack: Yeah. And I'm sure That somebody's gonna be like, the Simpsons, you know, they called it, but it's like they've explored every idea there's. Cristina: Exactly. Yeah. They probably explored every different type of apocalypse. Jack: Yeah, a hundred percent. How many different ways has that world ended? And then it happens over here. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be a chemical plant. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be aliens. It's like, what? Cristina: That doesn't make sense. Jack: That doesn't make sense. That does not make sense at all. Cristina: But that's what's going to happen. I guess they'll figure it out. Or we'll think that they figured it out, even though they didn't figure it out because they're just, like, making stuff. Jack: Up as they go. Pretty much, yes. Okay, so then my question is, how do we predict the apocalypse? And then in knowing how we predict the apocalypse, we can identify who would already know. Cristina: You think someone already knows? Jack: I think somebody must already know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. We'll go with that assumption. Cristina: And you think we could figure out who knows? Jack: Well, we can figure out. We can try to get as close as possible, but beforehand, we got to figure out. The two assumptions we're going with right now are one, if it can be done, if it can be known, somebody knows. Two, it can be known. So we just have to prove how, though. We have to move forward with those two ideas right now. Cristina: How do you prove how? Jack: Well, we got to figure out how we could. How we're going to predict the future, how we're going to tell which apocalypse. I guess the idea is not when we were having the apocalypse episode, we were having a conversation about what we would do and just kind of theoretically, what's more likely. Right now, we're just going to totally weigh out which one is going to happen or not. We weren't deciding which one was more likely, but rather what were the possibilities. Now, knowing the possibilities will just figure out which one is most likely. Cristina: How. Jack: I think, for example, we can easily exclude robots. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because I don't think we're anywhere. I. We're wrong about what AI is inherently. We're just wrong about what AI is. We're calling it artificial intelligence, but there's no intelligence there. It's googling. And even when it's not googling, Even when it's not googling, it's just sort of reacting off of the information that it was trained on to begin with, which is to use all the information and simply organize it, it's imitating, it's not originating. It's never creating its own thought. There's no intelligence. It's not even learning it really. It's just spitting things out. And imagine keyword searches, okay. And this is answers that, this answers that, this answers that. Let me put those together and give all the important parts from all of it. Which I guess is also kind of like intelligence works to some degree, but because I guess that's what we do. Cristina: But it's not coming up with anything new. Jack: It's not going to come up with anything new. It would never make up its own thing. It would be impossible. It would have to always rely on imitation. And for it to be true, intelligence would need the ability to originate a. Cristina: Thought, which so far, no. Jack: So far, no. I think like the computers taking over, realistically, might not be soon or at least the soonest we. What we'd be discussing right now is which is the soonest, most likely. Cristina: Zombies. No. I don't know. Jack: We get. We've gotten pretty close with some pharmaceutical things, but it doesn't seem, I think definitely viral is up there getting sick. Cristina: Getting in some type of way. Jack: Yes. I don't know if zombies. I think we'd quickly just nuke that city and get that done with. We've got too much media making us paranoid and we're going to be like, now solve that one. Cristina: Okay. We're going to do Resident Evil. Jack: Yeah, probably. We just get rid of it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: So definitely not that I think viral. Yes. 00:15:00 Jack: No, I think no zombies for sure. Cristina: No aliens for sure. Jack: No aliens. It wouldn't like really, it wouldn't make sense. Why aliens wouldn't need to interact with us for what. Cristina: And if people swear they are, if. Jack: You can try, I mean, they can study us. That makes sense. We're a different creature. But they don't have to speak with us. They don't need to talk with our leader like none of that bullshit. And it does. They don't need to destroy our planet or take over it or anything. Whatever resource exists here exists in abundance everywhere else in space. And the fact that they can clear the distance of space means that their technology is so exaggeratedly overpowered they can make the resource they're missing. So they don't need anything from us. They don't have any reason. Studying us would be the most important thing. And other than that, like, why are. Cristina: They still studying us? How long does selling us take? Jack: Well, there's creep. We evolve, we change. We keep studying animals even after we know them. Okay, science is science. You, you're never fully informed. You're only closer than you were before, and that's as close as you can get. But. So I don't think they're gonna end the world though. If anything, they're helping preserve us from meteors and that could end us. Okay, you know, they're out there. Why has nothing hit us in so long that has just reset the clock? Well, they're out there somewhere, just like keep that planet safe. It's fine. They're just creatures developing. Cristina: That's possible. Okay? Jack: Possible. We never see them because we can't mess with any of that. But they're out there just protecting Earth. Yeah, aliens everywhere. Just. They're not even out there. He's got robots doing it. Cristina: Robots. Jack: They got robots destroying stuff. No aliens, no AI, no zombies. Definite disease. Seems high, but I think. You know what it's gonna be. The possibility to me is that it's gonna be a government created attempt to scare the people that gets out of control. Because they're trying to control the people again. Maybe the people losing control. And the government wants to hold its grip on society because of whatever the h***. Cristina: They're gonna scare us. Jack: Trying to scare us with a real thing they made. Well, only, you know, you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette. And then that omelette gets out of control. Cristina: But it's the people or the thing that they use to scare the people. Jack: They were using the thing to scare the people, to get the people back under control. Cristina: And then the thing. Jack: Yeah, think Covid. But it goes way rogue. Okay, so the government makes the thing, releases it on the people with an attempt to. Oh, we're gonna put new rules and lockdowns and this and that. We're gonna get our laws back in our side. And then it even goes out of control that the government can't control it. Cristina: And it could be just a thing like. Jack: Yeah, it could just be virus. Yeah. It turns out to be way more contagious than they thought. Okay, that seems likely to me from all of it. Cristina: Is that your final answer though? Jack: Well, that's just one thing. I've discussed. What other apocalypses could happen. I think that's definitely high on this. Until we discuss something that stands out a little more. Cristina: The government is deciding it. Jack: No, they weren't deciding on the apocalypse. The government was simply trying to scare the people with something like Covid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: They happen to turn out way more contagious and starts killing people or mutates really quickly out of Their control. Cristina: But. Jack: I think that's possible. But like, what else is there? That's not them plotting the apocalypse. This is the apocalypse by chance happening because they're stupid. Cristina: Would you think they try to. Like, what would plotting the apocalypse look like for them? Jack: The government tries to plot. Okay, fair enough. This would have to be a scenario in which they have all the resources they need and can live without the peasants, essentially. And so rich people would need to interact with the government. And then that's the. You know, those are all the elites, politicians and rich people, and they somehow work together to set, settle, let's say, you know, get Mars up and running and we'll abandon Earth and all of the people, and they'll have no leadership and they'll kill each other down there. We'll just come back in like two, 300 years after we've killed each other. Reclaim Earth. Cristina: What? Jack: That's the situation which I think the apocalypse is all leadership suddenly leaving with all of the important information and resources. Cristina: I don't know if they can do that, but that sounds crazy. Jack: Yeah, I don't think they can either. I think there's enough of us that we would just keep going, figure it out. Cristina: We can figure it out. Maybe they take the resources somehow, but I don't know what that would mean. Jack: Well, not even the resources. It's more of informational hierarchy. If the president left, and so did the Secretary 00:20:00 Jack: of Defense, and so did the vice president and all the senators and all the mayors and all the congress people and all the judges. Cristina: That's a lot of people. Jack: If they all left, if they all left, everybody with some higher status, all of them, the world, in the world, all in one time, who's gonna take charge? Cristina: I don't know. Jack: Death is gonna happen f****** everywhere. Cristina: Everybody wants it, so people are just gonna be fighting for it. Jack: Who's enforcing the law? Cristina: Mm. Jack: Who's making the law? Who's gonna punish you? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: I think if elites leave chaos. Cristina: Okay, that's. Jack: Oh, right. We never think about it, but easy. So they set up up there. They decide, okay, keep sending resources, survival things. Get it going. So it's independent and we. Literal paradise. We've made away from these people. Cristina: But then they want to come back. Jack: After we've killed ourselves and died out here, then they could easily reclaim Earth without a struggle and have even more resources. An absolute paradise. Plus all the technology and crap that. Cristina: Was left behind, we'd still be here. There'd be still people on the planet. They'd just be more dangerous. Jack: Yeah, I think we'd eventually end up back in order. There'll be a lot of murders at first and it would be chaos and it would just settle again. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Most of us. Cristina: They wouldn't be able to like communicate with what's left of us or something. Jack: No. They would just immediately get off. We're like. Those guys are aliens. Cristina: Huh? Wouldn't we think they're aliens? We would. Jack: They come from outer space. We don't know. We've never seen them. Those are people who live on Mars. They're Martians. They're claiming they're human, but they're Martians. They came from Mars. Cristina: That's crazy. No, no, no. Jack: It wouldn't cause an apocalypse that feels like the ending. It would look crazy. It would be a nuts period in time. The Earth just kind of quickly went into absolute chaos. But I don't think it would be apocalyptic. I don't think it would end. I think many most people would still be alive. Cristina: But you think if there is an apocalypse, the government are the people that would know that it was coming? Jack: I think only if they are responsible for it. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Which would be the same as a nuclear apocalypse. That's government's fully aware. So viral. It was probably the government trying to take control. That was what that was. Covet was. Cristina: Okay. Jack: That's covert. Was. It's American government facilities testing on viruses in China. Cristina: Were they trying to attack. They weren't trying to attack China or anything. Jack: What the h*** they were doing or why this. These people were always saying are the enemy. We're always working with. Cristina: If you're working with them. And they. Yes, we do swear they are the enemy. Jack: People are idiots. They'll believe whatever they're told. Those people are bad. Oh. But winning trades. Cristina: Something's not right. Jack: Something's not right. Yeah. No. They're always good. They're always bad. Cristina: They're always bad. Jack: Oh yeah. So definitely like nuclear apocalypse or viral outbreaks seem high for them knowing. Cristina: But nuclear. Who would even. Jack: And that's a total destruction situation. Cristina: Yeah. No one really wants that. Jack: But if it happened the governments would know. Cristina: Mmm. I guess. Yeah. Jack: You know, because everybody would start firing at everybody. The country that knows it's going down is gonna launch in every direction it had aimed. Because f*** you guys that knew and didn't stop them. And then every one of those countries are gonna do the same thing. It's a chain reaction. Cristina: I think everyone's just gonna. Jack: Everybody. I think if a single nuke goes out, all the nukes go out. Cristina: No, I Hope not. Jack: That's why they're called deterrence. Nuclear deterrent. You're not going to use it because they're going to use it too. Cristina: But once someone does, that's it. That's really it. Jack: A single one. Everybody uses it. That's the problem. That's actually the premise of Fallout, I believe. Cristina: Does someone used it? Jack: Someone use it? I think the world is affected, not just the United States. Cristina: I wish we knew more. Jack: Yeah, but that. Those are my. The government knows scenarios. Cristina: I think the government knows. Jack: So you think it's one of those two? No. There's an apocalypse. Could be other things. Maybe religious people are right. Maybe it's gonna be a religious apocalypse. Cristina: That one's a tough one because it's always like. I don't know. To them the world is always worse or it's getting worse. It's just bad people are immoral. They're monsters. It's like, are they. 00:25:00 Cristina: Has things changed? Is there more horrible people than there were? Jack: Well, no, but let's assume that the ending of the story is right. Even if it getting worse isn't. Then there's still an apocalypse. But then which religion. Which religion is right? Jesus is gonna come back. Everybody. Cristina: Because we're American. He is coming back. Jack: Everybody. Everybody. Over and most apocalypses have that happen. Some kind of a war. Most narratives are some kind of. Cristina: We're not even part of the war. Jack: At least not in the Bible. Cristina: I don't think so. Jack: I think. Cristina: You think there is a story. Jack: I think it's either Norse mythology or Greek mythology. The narrative is that one side uses the souls of the dead to fill their army out or some crap like that. I don't know if it's either one of those two. I know some religions. Cristina: What about the humans? The humans are used or. No. Are they just in the middle of it? Jack: The humans who are alive? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No. Everybody would die. Cristina: Everyone would die. And then our souls are part of the fight. Jack: Yeah. This. The. Basically the. Whether you've died or not, once the apocalypse begins, eventually you're just going to die. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because plot. And then you're going to be. You're going to join one side or the other, whatever. Cristina: I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me either because. What about all the people who don't want to choose a side? Jack: No. You force them to a side. It doesn't matter which. Yeah. I don't know why it makes sense as a story, but let's say that's right, then. Okay. Cristina: I don't know, it's just hard to imagine that, like, we're all told there's evil and good and you gotta fight for one and everyone's gonna really be. Jack: Easily choose, like, well, no, you're not choosing me. You know, there's good and evil. You're not told which one is which. Both are telling you, I'm good, I'm good there. Cristina: You like, why even fight then? Jack: No, because one of them is lying. Cristina: That's. Jack: And it's up to you to decide. Cristina: Why would you trust yourself in that type of decision? Jack: Because there is no option. There's a f****** war. Cristina: There is. And you're already dead. Why does it matter? Jack: You're gonna cease to exist. I guess would be dying after you've died is ceasing to exist. Cristina: But how do you know that's right? Jack: You don't. I don't know. These things that are already there are telling you it's right. Cristina: I know, it's just hard to believe after you die, like, whatever anyone says, it's hard to believe what they're saying. No, unless you believe everything everyone says. It's either everyone's lying so I can't do anything, or everyone's telling the truth now. Jack: I don't know what to do. You're thinking about this wrong way. Look at it like this. If you are a Christian and you die, and when you die, you are in this sort of blank slate place and you walk infinitely in what looks like nothing and eventually you come up to a white gate with a golden fence. Wait, no, if. Golden fence, A white fence with a golden gate. There you go, a white fence with a golden gate and a dude who's gonna. Who tells you to stand in front of him and he's gonna talk to you before he lets you in. You can for sure question, but you kind of know that. D*** the Christians got it based on all the clues. You know, you don't have to be like in. I guess everything else they said after this point is wrong. After the initial point you're kind of like, well, they got this part right. I might as well just follow the narrative now. Cristina: Well then what if you get in there and then it ends up being heaven, h*** or whatever? Jack: It could totally be the case. Then some of the parts of the story were messed up and as you got, but you got to follow it. But you're not gonna see the white pearly gate and question it and be like, well, I guess this could be fake. Like, no, you died and now you're here. Be like, oh, I get. What else can you do? I guess you're in the new plane and you have nothing else to go off of. You're not just deciding, well, after this point, they must be wrong. Okay, they got, they got it this right, but that's it. Like, based on what? So you just kind of roll with it. I don't think after the first confirmations you're just gonna turn on it, you know, so you die and you get to the war zone or whatever, and they're like, you gotta pick a side. You're not gonna be like, I can't trust which side resonates with you. You're gonna go with that. Okay, well, it kind of looks like this. And based on that text, it was kind of like, this side's a good guy, so I'll go there. And if you're wrong, you're wrong. The end. Cristina: Is there even a right and wrong? Jack: The Bible thinks there is. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You know, religions think there are. Islam thinks there is. 00:30:00 Jack: The Quran says, oh, there's good and evil. Okay, Jews don't think there is. Cristina: They don't? Jack: No, no. If you're going for Orthodox and traditional Judaism, there are many things that are absolutely different. Heaven isn't a thing that was added later. It's not real. Cristina: How much later? Jack: Quite, quite a while. There was no heaven or h*** for an infinity. Judaism did not have that concept. That was added much later. There's so many texts, so many texts. Cristina: With Jesus around the time. Jack: It wasn't added with Jesus, it was added prior to Jesus. I think the first mentions in the older texts start at the end of the Torah. But if said that at the end of the Torah or it came with Jesus. I know that most of the Torah does not have a single mention. And they were. The first parts were written in that order, so there's no existence of h***. It was just later it showed up somewhere. Cristina: So you just die. Jack: You just die and kind of join, become one. Actually, as a rabbi once explained it to me, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know what happens. We're not divine. And that's legit. Fair, bro. Any Christian that's like, no, this happens. It's no, no, no. You couldn't know. Cristina: You couldn't know. Jack: You couldn't know. You're not divine. You're not here and there. You don't know you're gonna be there. When you're there, you're just there. You're not over here. Cristina: It's too complicated to imagine that the Apocalypse is gonna be just one of the Bible endings. Not Bible, but religious endings is right. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because there's too many. There's too many. Jack: Well, that's even more proof that one of them would get it right, I guess. Cristina: But it's not like they knew. It feels too random. Or maybe. Jack: Depends how much of it they got right. If it's like a single detail and the rest of it is wrong. Cristina: But. Jack: All right, we'll give it to you. Cristina: Because then. Jack: Yeah, okay, that's random chance. But it's like, if you got every beat okay, like, then how do you figure it out, bro? There's no way you could have predicted that a tree in this forest is gonna fall. Then an explosion is gonna happen across the world at exactly this second. Cristina: Some horns are gonna sound. Jack: Yeah. From the whole sky, everywhere, all the time. Exactly at this date is gonna sound. And everybody's gonna hear all at once. Like, how'd you predict all of this? That guy knew something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Versus, like, during a storm, we're gonna. The world is gonna burst and bust into flame. And it's like, what if a weird volcanic eruption happened and it created a storm? Cristina: Because of all the block, Then obviously he was right. Jack: Like, yeah, that's chance. We could, like, give it to you because you got it. But like, random chance said that a volcanic eruption of a super volcano threw enough debris into the air and created an entire electrical storm. And then I think another super fire. Cristina: Volcano can explode and, like, kill us all. Jack: Absolutely. Absolutely. That could totally happen. Cristina: Could that just be the end? Jack: Yeah. I wonder how long after a super volcano would we all be dead? That would be an apocalypse. But like, what speed of an apocalypse would it be? Cristina: The perfect amount of speed. I don't know. Jack: Perfect amount of speed that maybe that's. Cristina: What'S happening on the road. I don't know. Jack: It could. It could. We have no idea. What the h***. Cristina: No idea. Jack: The ash everywhere and the blocked sky. Cristina: Yeah, we gotta see how long that does take. Jack: Super volcano. Cristina: Super volcano. Jack: Interesting. So now, I never thought about that. I always thought, like, nuclear warfare, but. Cristina: In Japan must sink or Japan sinks or whatever it was called. There was a volcano that exploded, but it didn't destroy the world. Jack: It wasn't a super volcano. Cristina: It wasn't a super volcano. It was a pretty big. It felt like it was super Mount Fuji. Jack: It was a volcano that's not super. That's not super. Cristina: What qualifies a volcano to be super? Jack: I think super volcanoes are so large, they don't look like volcanoes to Us. Cristina: They're so large they don't look like volcanoes. Jack: Yeah. I could be wrong in just saying s*** like if anybody who doesn't agree with this, comment below. That doesn't even make sense. But yes, wherever you'd go, comment, comment there and let us know. Cristina: In Spotify you could comment below or at least on your phone. I'm pretty sure you can. I don't know if. Jack: Oh I guess if you listen on Spotify, comment below on your phone, just comment. I forget we're on Spotify. Yeah, interesting. Okay. Okay. Super volcano breakdown of series of events. Right. Initial 00:35:00 Jack: weeks is from the day of eruption to three weeks. So eruption blast is going to kill thousands of people instantly and ashfall is going to suffocate the nearby populations. That's instant death. Instant death. Cristina: Instant as in like it's immediate. Jack: The people close to the blast. Yeah, this is just within the first three weeks. This is all happening. Cristina: Okay. Jack: All of these people are f*****. Then transport and flights completely are grounded. There's no planes going up. You can't see there's a lot of magnetism going on. There's a lot of chemicals in the sky. Food shortages are going to immediately start kicking in because of the inability to transport things in planes quickly. Oh and health care is going to get over overwhelmed right off the bat. Cristina: Okay. And that's all of, that's the first few weeks. Jack: All of that is the first three weeks. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So absolute chaos in the first three weeks. This is super volcano apocalypse now. Crop failures are going to follow in the first, first to three months from ash spread. Drinking water contamination is going to be widespread. Global supply chain disruptions are going to ridiculous. Starvation is going to begin in the poorest areas and the death toll is going to reach millions globally in the first three months. Cristina: The first three months. Oh my gosh. Jack: Then from three to six months we're going to have temperature drops and it's going to cause the crop to fail entirely. Food hoarding and riots are going to start to increase as people start to get hungry and desperate to in random locations. Respiratory illness is going to spread in an uncontrollable rate as the exposure to the ash is going to be absurd. Cristina: Wonder how much people are left at this point. Jack: Migration from affected areas is going to begin and the death toll is going to be in the hundreds of millions. Cristina: Okay. Jack: From three to six months. Six months to a year. Nuclear winter is going to cause mass starvation and infrastructure breakdown in all regions. We're going to have disease spread due to poor sanitization sanitization, sanitation and governments collapse in many regions around the world. And we're going to start reaching the billions at this point, in the first year to two years, the persistent cold is going to kill surviving crops. Cannibalism is going to begin around this place. Population drops to survivalists almost exclusively. Global communication ends completely. And the death toll is going to be roughly over 90% of humanity in the first two years. Cristina: The first two years we're done. Jack: The first two years is 90% of humanity. Year three to five, Ash begins to settle. Worldwide, small agricultural zones reappear. Few communities rebuild infrastructure. Survivors adapt to the new ecosyste. Some and remaining humans, millions, the entire Earth collectively, only millions would remain would start to rebuild. So we would have the new. So that would be an apocalypse. Yeah, I think that's the post apocalypse. So we don't need everybody to cease. What we were seeing during the flood was the most crazy of events. It was so exaggerated. Cristina: Wait, you're talking about the Bible flood? Jack: The flood, yes, that Bible flood. If that was real, it's so exaggerated that only one family. The real idea would be you didn't know everybody on Earth. You thought everybody around you was all that existed. And maybe around the Earth after that flood happened, many people just like you survived. And those people repopulated. And that explains the giant differences between cultures. Cristina: You think they thought I don't understand so but like once they got off the boat, they would have noticed if there was other people? No. Jack: Why? Everybody's dead. Cristina: But there are people out. Jack: There are people out there. So it's Earth. Cristina: But when they're breeding with their children or their children are breeding with themselves, like they never realize or look around, I guess it's just them. Until eventually I'll paint this picture for you. Jack: Noah makes the ark. Noah gets on the ark. There's many people around Noah. There are also already natives in the Americas and in South America and people way over in Asia and in the depths of Africa. Migration has happened long. 00:40:00 Jack: It's been hundreds of thousands of years. Migration. We're everywhere. And then the flood happens. Now he doesn't know that people are this far spread out. Since the last ice age, the ground connecting where they migrated over doesn't exist anymore. It was ice. They walked over ice. It melted away. Now you don't even. It's been so many generations since that happened. You have no perspective. But you're here. Flood happens, everybody around you dies. All of them. You never see somebody again who wasn't in your family. You think Earth drowned and you wrote history. You're the last people surviving who know how to write and tell stories. Cristina: How many generations did it take before it was not just his family breeding with itself? Jack: Well, it would have to repopulate the entire general area. Everybody was his family, no matter what. It's. Until we start going into, like, they met Asians or they met South Africans, or they crossed and met people in. In South America or in North America. Cristina: Very strange. Jack: But everybody else is related to them to something. So. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: At least to the top guy. Cristina: Yes. Which I guess, in the end of the day, doesn't that mean, like, if you believe in the Bible, you also believe you're part of Noah's family? Yes. Jack: It would have to be. You're part of his lineage. Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's Noah and it's. Jack: Yeah, we literally have us. The way I like to think about it is as follows. Adam and Eve. They create all of humanity that goes completely out of control. Then the destruction of everybody but the family. That will be the new Adam and Eve, pretty much. And then they again do that. They are 2.0. That's also why they are considered to be the important. Cristina: Except also Eve died. I. I guess you got to get rid of Eve no matter what. Eve does not exist, because isn't she the one? Oh, no. I'm thinking of the different story crap. All these Bible stories are ridiculous. I was thinking of the lady who looks back at the city and then she dies. That's not a. That's a different apocalypse, Right? Jack: That's not apocalypse. This is a city. Cristina: Oh, that's just the city. Jack: This is the world, allegedly. Cristina: Okay. Jack: People who believe in the Christian Bible and in the Torah believe they are descendants of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Everybody is a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay, that makes sense, I guess. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: In this weird way. All right. Jack: But that still means we're descendant of Adam. Because you can follow a line between Adam and Noah. Noah is some descendant of Adam. Everybody is. But really, everybody is also a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It's not that everybody's a descendant of Adam, but not a descendant of both Cain and Abel. You're either one or the other. You get my point. No, it doesn't work that way. Everybody's a descendant of Noah. Now, if Noah had five children, everybody's a descendant of one of those five children. Nobody's the descendant of both. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Or all five. I guess there's five. Cristina: Unless they made it with each other. Then you were. Jack: Unless they made it with each other. Yeah. Cristina: At least two of them. Jack: Yes, exactly, exactly, exactly. You would be a descendant of at least two. Yeah, but that would still mean descendant of. We're all descendants of Noah, according to this narrative. Cristina: Okay, that's very strange narrative. Okay. Jack: Now it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. That caused the Earth to flood. Cristina: I guess. Jack: So it must have been some crazy rain. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And was there no water on Earth before then? Where'd the water go? Cristina: Where did it go? Jack: It went to the center. Not the center, but it sank into the Earth. The Earth absorbed the water because then. Cristina: Where did it come from? Jack: Interesting. Let's assume the story is true. The story is true. Okay. What are we really talking about right now? We are talking about some sort of meteor fall that as it was entering the atmosphere, the fire was burning it down, the water and it just kept evaporating in our atmosphere, filling it out. There had to be some crazy. But they were all small rocks of H2O just burning in our atmosphere, filling it up with water, water, water. And Dennis just starts. There must have been a crazy colossal meteor that just missed us. That was really gonna end the job. Cristina: But like an ice ball. Jack: Yeah, Giant ice ball coming through and, you know, a bunch of surrounding smaller balls, but it passed really, really, really, really close. Maybe Earth didn't have a bunch of water yet, but really, really close. Or maybe Earth had right amount of water. Maybe we consider the ocean isn't directly connected to the center. 00:45:00 Jack: Maybe that's just a pool that has no exit and all the water is stuck there. But maybe there's holes here and there where water can go down. So when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, the drain after the flood was quick because everywhere else the water would dissipate through. It could get down into the surface. But where the oceans are, there's no escape. So a giant meteor is coming through. It's. It's an ice rock, an asteroid coming through. And it has a bunch of small. Many, many. It must be huge. It must be some moon sized rock that just barely missed us. And then we're getting bombarded by the smaller ones that are burning up in the atmosphere. Cristina: No one notices that. Jack: I don't know. And how would he have known? That's the other problem. If we assume this is true, how would he have known? The billabo? How could you just know there's a giant rock from space? It couldn't be that. He had to be like a meteorologist or something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And be predicting the movements of the clouds. I don't know. I don't know how do you flood the Earth? Cristina: That's kind of crazy. Jack: How do we scientifically ground this in a way that makes sense? How'd you flood the Earth? It couldn't have been. It had to be just this area. Cristina: It had to. That would make the most sense. That makes the most sense. Jack: Like everybody's ever been around is flooded. Cristina: Yeah, that's it. Like if he was in that weird Greek town that was flooded. Was it Greek Indian town? Oh, that was on the water and it just disappeared. Because they flooded it themselves. Jack: Yeah, but they knew that other people existed and they were. It's not. That's a small area. They could have easily traveled on foot somewhere else. You have to be such a. It still had to be a pretty epic flood. Or. These are people who never traveled anywhere. And it was. I mean, I guess maybe it was really hard to travel. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: A time where? In an area that was underdeveloped. Cristina: And are they on an island? Jack: No, but just assume we're. They're in an area that's underdeveloped and they are in. It's desert. Underdeveloped desert. And there isn't a lot of other places to go to. You guys are some of the first people. It's only been a couple of generations, right? Man. How many generations has it been between. Cristina: Between him and Adam? Jack: Between him and Adam. Yeah. How many people exist at the time of Noah? Cristina: Look that up. Jack: Okay, okay, okay, I got some answers here. In the entire planet at the time of Noah, there was roughly about 10 million people in all of Earth. Cristina: Okay, Right. That's still a nice amount of people. Jack: Yes. Now in the area directly surrounding Noah, like his general region, there was about a million of those people. That was one of the starting points of all people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And like that and Africa probably had the two largest populations. Cristina: Okay, I thought you were saying like a hundred people. Jack: No, no. In that region. But it's important to keep perspective. Noah existed in a time and place that. I was right. Travel was nearly impossible to any faraway community. They didn't know other communities existed. And there was no worldview. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In the time of Noah. They did not. Cristina: That was their world. Jack: That was their world. They didn't consider that there were other people farther out. That wasn't a thought. All that existed is everybody you've seen. If you saw somebody that you've never met before, they claim they were from a far off place. Now suddenly that place exists in your world. And that often didn't happen. Most people thought them and their closest communities were all that ever existed, which. Cristina: Is a big size community. Jack: But okay, so relatively speaking, he would have thought so in his direct surrounding area, about 500,000 to a million people. Right. But his perspective based on who he might have ever seen and who he has seen has ever seen, he would have thought that There were about 10,000 people in all of Earth. Cristina: 10,000 people. Jack: 10,000 people in all of Earth. Additionally, his region could have easily flooded in its entirety and killed everybody if it, if a flood happened. Let me correct. I couldn't easily have flooded. If a flood did happen there, it could have easily flooded the entire region and killed everybody. So yes, he could have honestly believed, but everybody died. Cristina: A million people or the 10,000. Jack: He thought 10,000 in his region that we would. Where we would point at it on a map. There were about a million people. He was so far from most of those people, he probably didn't know they existed. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In his small within the dot, we would point out from million people. 00:50:00 Jack: Those people are so spread out between each other that it wasn't beneficial just. Cristina: Losing a million people. I mean, a thousand, ten thousand people. He probably would be like losing the world. Jack: The world ended. If 10,000 people died, he thought everybody was gone. Cristina: Okay. Jack: If his area flooded and 10,000 people died, he's like, there's nobody left around me. By the time the flood is gone, he never saw another person ever again. Cristina: All right, so then we're not all connected to him. I mean, maybe they want to believe. Jack: No, that's the Christian Bible. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Okay, but definitely his belief could be justified. And most of the world never even realized that happened. Cristina: Yeah, it's just a flood. Jack: It's just a flood. That was fair enough. Kind of large, but just in his spot. Cristina: But in the real, in like right now, could a flood like that happen? Well, in that could not have happened because that didn't happen. But like, could the world get flooded? And how Earth? Jack: Yes, it would have to be like I said, it would have to be like a giant ridiculous rock coming through that's all ice and bringing mad small ice rocks. Maybe it made impact long before it got anywhere near us and broke into a billion trillion tiny little pieces. So small. Cristina: It's gonna be a lot of water coming from somewhere else. Jack: Yeah, they're all just ice so that the moment they hit our atmosphere, they start just melt away. They just melt away quickly, all of them. But one does it fine. It just turned into a little cloud and you know, but then another and then another, and then another and then another. And it Keeps happening. It keeps happening and keeps happening. It keeps happening. It keeps happening. Cristina: How huge could asteroids get? Can they get planet size, moon size? Jack: Yeah, yeah. This won't be that. And also something like that would be making impact of crap left and right is huge. Gravity. It would be aiming at other crap. By default we have too much gravity. And plus whatever gravity of the thing it would just have made impact eventually become small anyways. That's why they're usually certain sizes. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And. And we literally just call things that are those sizes rogue planets. Cristina: You know, rogue ice planet hits us. Jack: Yeah. It would have to be a rogue ice planet because we wouldn't call it a meteor or an asteroid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It just know you've crossed the threshold now you're even rarer. But yeah. We can expect big enough sizes and then get bombarded regularly until it starts to become too packed and starts to rain little by little versus a couple of days of rain without stop. And the rain always, always, always is heavier than a minute ago. Indefinitely more. Cristina: But what are we dying? Jack: Would. I mean a lot of people would if it caught us off guard. Well no, the problem is with our current day technology wouldn't happen. Cristina: Both. And we'll just be both people. Jack: We'll be both people. Cristina: But could we survive off of just fishing? I guess would be the way because there's no plants us like you get seaweed I guess. I don't know. Like obviously the food. There will be a huge problem in the future. Jack: If we jump a thousand years in the future and we say that the planet is always flooded. We've adapted and we figured it out in the apocalypse scenario because you can think in the future. A thousand years in the future plants adapted and became the water plant survived. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And plants that could be drowned and handle it have adopt adapted and we've figured out ways to get them. And we've grown plants on the sides of buildings and on top of buildings that are floating and crap. And still if a big enough flood we've made skyscrapers those are going to be packed with people. Cristina: Yeah. So you'll think it won't really be the end of the world. It'll be the end of whatever we had. Life as we know it's like yeah, it's going to be a whole different type of life. Jack: And I still. Yeah. I think if we. If it's coming, we know because we have the technology to prepare and see it coming from a million miles away and turn society into all. Cristina: You can't just flood in a day like you Just can't. Like no automatic. Everything's flooded. Jack: No. Cristina: That kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. There's no chance. But like, how could that even. Jack: I mean, we could change the scenario a little and say we see nothing in space and then tomorrow it's the moon's distance from us. Do we have the time to start building the boats? We won't. It's gonna flood. But now how bad is the flood gonna be if it's. It's still not gonna happen overnight. No, it's gonna build up slowly. Cristina: So you can still plan. Jack: Yeah, we won't. People are gonna die. We don't have the facilities. Cristina: Yes. Jack: For this. Cristina: People will die. But it's not never gonna be as high as other scenarios. Jack: No. 1 we're throwing. Most people are throwing everything out of skyscrapers. Leave the bottom. Everybody get the f*** away from the building. We're emptying every floor from bottom the top and stocking all the skyscrapers with all the food, all the food we could find, all the skyscrapers. Scientists 00:55:00 Jack: are going to give us an average based on how much rain they think for how long. And hopefully they're right. And it doesn't go beyond that point. And we're going to go. Starting at the top and we're just going to the. When the rain begins, as the flooding begins, we will start to inhabit these buildings more and more and keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up until we can't go up anymore. Not everybody's gonna fit. Cristina: No. Jack: Billions are gonna fit. Cristina: People find other things. Jack: Boats for days. Cristina: Raptors, Rafters. Raft. Yeah, raft. Boats. Jack: Oh, rafts, things. Cristina: Little boats. Jack: Yeah, yeah. Just boats and crap canoes. Everywhere would be fine. A bunch of people be fine. Cristina: The. Jack: Other problem is, is this gonna be just flooding or is this gonna be storming? If it's gonna be storming, people are on boats. They, the skyscrapers. Cristina: I was thinking of flooding, but like it could be storming. I don't know. I don't know. Jack: No, it's f*****. Especially if trees get swallowed up. Cristina: Yes. Jack: If trees are underwater, you're f*****. Trees stop floods. They slow down waves and movement. If you have a giant forest by the ocean before your city, the trees slow down any kind of impactful water from gaining momentum. But if it goes over the trees and a wave can just roll over it, then what? Cristina: But would like the world becomes flooded because of this asteroid? Are there also more storms because things are different? Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Cristina: Like, is that a product of what's going on yes. Jack: The humidity level is going to rise ridiculously. It's going to make everything way f****** hotter. The sun is going to directly be hitting water all the time, creating vapor consistently. That's going to rise and create an infinite cycle of rain. After the ice finishes landing on Earth, the amount of rain that has established is going to cycle through indefinitely. If it floods over trees, that's crazy amount of flooding. And it's just going to cycle indefinitely. So it's going to be so much humidity with the sun always hitting and there's going to be moisture in the air always. And there's going to be vapor in the air always. And clouds are going to be be packed and dense always because the sun is always hitting. And it's just going to be an infinite cycle of rain and rain and rain and rain. Cristina: Okay? Jack: It won't unflood. It will never unflood beyond a certain amount of water. Cristina: Okay? Jack: I'll never unflood unless I'm right. And the earth has gaps underneath in which the wash the water will just go. And what we see as oceans isn't because there's more water beneath them, but rather because that's. That's an area that water can't escape from. If that's the case and everywhere else, water will eventually sink through the ground through, okay. And it might be a really long time before we have what we consider dry. But if that's the case, people in skyscrapers will be fine if they have the resources. People on the boats will probably die because of the storming and crap until the water sinks in. Cristina: What if they're on big, those big, big, big boats? The big. Jack: It depends, right? Because the big. The bigger the boat, the safer by default. It depends on the type of wave too. Really really small boats on really really big waves do fine because it'll unnotably just the wave is so big it doesn't affect the small boat. It would go under it. If you have a really big boat and a really big wave, you're f*****. Cristina: Oh. Jack: If you have a really big boat and many small waves, you're fine. If you have a small boat and many small waves, you're okay. Cristina: If you have a submarine, you're good. Jack: Depends how high the water went. You just need to be below where the waves would affect you. Cristina: So can you like what would not work out? For a summary, if the world is flooded, like what? Jack: No, they could just submarines already in the ocean world floods again. Good. You're fine. Anybody on the submarine is fine. They don't Even notice. Cristina: Okay, they're fine. Jack: Water over them, it's just take longer to get up. There's more pressure. You got to go higher up now. I guess so, because the water level's rising everywhere. Cristina: Well, hopefully they can figure that out. Jack: But I guess flooding could happen. I don't know if it's the most likely or even probably not. Cristina: Probably not at all. Jack: But what else could happen? What other apocalypse could there be? The volcano is pretty badass one. I think that's possibility. But we don't know. That's random chance. And they we would start rebuilding after five years. Cristina: I don't know. Probably that government making something that accidentally. Jack: Leaks out a virus, right? That feels so right. They're gonna be like, no, we're just gonna do a little of it to scare them. Cristina: It 01:00:00 Cristina: happening once makes it feel like, okay, it could happen again. It happened once, man. I made it even the first time. Jack: Dude. I'm sure many of these other diseases and things that have rolled by in the past were the same thing. Cristina: Exactly. People already question a lot of other things of like, was this the government's cancer is probably. Yes, yes. Jack: So probably right. Cristina: So yeah, maybe that's most likely. Jack: It's the government's full of s***, bro. So, yeah, I really, really. I think so too. I specifically think some kind of a viral outbreak, something similar to Covid that we just. That really goes rogue to control. It's. Oh yeah, it's Covid 2.0. We're gonna throw it out there and. Cristina: You know, we got pretty sure there was a cop two and three. Jack: Yeah, whatever. Some Covid chapter two. And they're gonna have like a vaccine or something. They'll be like, no, we. We built vaccine before we threw it out there, so we're good. And then it mutates one step too far and it's like, crap, we don't have a vaccine for where it went. Cristina: So dumb. Jack: And then it's like, oh crap. And anybody who catches it has liver failure by the next day. And it's like, d***, everybody's dying everywhere. It's like, d***, bro. Cristina: Yeah, that's exactly what's go happen. Jack: Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Some crap like that. Cristina: But then. So at the end of the day, the government knows. Jack: I guess it would have to be an apocalypse that was caused by the government. And they know. But afterwards they wouldn't tell us. In the moment, they'll never admit to it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because we would revolt. Didn't want that. The whole point was to try to take control. They're going to make us revolt further. They're not going to tell us. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So that's definitely. I do agree. I do it. I think that's the most possible. I don't know what the point of this conversation was. Why were we trying to figure out what was the most likely? Cristina: I thought that was your topic of the day. Jack: No, no, we never got to that. I guess we'll have to do that next time. Cristina: What? You said this was it. Jack: I know, but we had to figure out how the world is going to end. And apparently it's going to be a viral outbreak that the government is going. Cristina: To cause by accident. Ish. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Semi is not really. I don't know. Like, it's not intentional, but they definitely let it happen. Jack: Yeah, I mean, it's like it's. It's basically the argument for 9 11. Right. What that is like, you think they did it? I mean, if they didn't do it, they knew it was gonna happen and they, like, they didn't stop it. Cristina: Okay, yeah, something like that. Jack: You know, it's the argument for 9 11. I mean, I won't say they did it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But like. Like they knew they had intel and they could have easily. And they were like, it'll be in our benefit if we let it happen. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: As it goes. Cristina: That's. Yeah, that's it. Jack: I guess just a moment of it'll. Yeah, sure. It'll be in our benefit if it gets out. We'll easily contain it. The scare will be in our benefit now they're scared because most of them died. And they're like, we don't know what to do. Cristina: But that's. That's the thing. That's what happened with COVID I guess, in a way too. Jack: A bunch of them. That's. Cristina: That's it. Jack: So I guess. Cristina: I guess next week we'll find out. Jack: Yeah, next week we'll find out. But at least this week we know that the apocalypse is definitely gonna happen. Cristina: And Noah was exaggerating. Noah's was. Noah's story was exaggerated. Jack: Exaggerated. It does not. It doesn't fit, man. It's crazy. It's impossible. But, yeah, whatever. Anyways, so the next time we'll. We'll definitely get to that stuff and you guys can tell us what. What apocalypse you guys think is going to be the most likely. Just sit down. Cristina: Think about. You think actually knows it, because that was part of it too. Yeah. Jack: If the government isn't the knowing party and somebody. Oh, it was because we were trying to find out if Nostradamus was a predictive genius or something. Not really. But like, if somebody were to to by chance know for a fact, yes, Apocalypse is coming, what would be the most likely scenario? And it would definitely be the government having accidentally made it themselves. Cristina: Yeah. So if you have a different answer to this question, let us know. Jack: Yes. Contact us. Send us a message at. Just convopod on X, on Facebook, on Tick tock, on Instagram, wherever you want. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most overpowered thing in the world. If you know somebody who has even better answers, tell them to listen to it and get ideas and then tell us. Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. S.A. 01:05:00 Cristina: good morning. Good morning whoever dub attempt. The podcast is hosted by Cristina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black. 01:05:29

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