Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse
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In a world rife with uncertainty and chaos, the concept of the apocalypse has been a recurring theme throughout human history. From biblical tales of Noah's Ark to modern-day fears of viral outbreaks, the notion of an impending end has captured our imagination and shaped our beliefs. In this week's episode, we dive into the absurdity of apocalyptic predictions and explore the myriad ways in which humans interpret the idea of the end. Our hosts, Jack and Cristina, embark on a rambling journey that questions the very fabric of our understanding of apocalypses. They ponder whether multiple apocalypses could occur without us even noticing, drawing parallels between historical accounts and contemporary fears. With a playful yet thought-provoking tone, they dissect the narratives that have been passed down through generations, questioning their validity and relevance in today's society. One of the standout moments in the episode is the discussion surrounding the Great Flood, a story that has been interpreted in countless ways across different cultures. Jack argues that if the flood was indeed a historical event, it may have been localized, leading those who experienced it to believe they were the last survivors on Earth. This perspective invites listeners to reconsider the stories they’ve been told and challenge the narratives that shape their beliefs. The conversation takes a fascinating turn as they explore the role of government in societal collapse. Cristina suggests that the most likely apocalypse could stem from a viral outbreak, one that might be inadvertently released by those in power. This theory resonates with recent global events and raises critical questions about trust, control, and the lengths to which authorities will go to maintain order. As the episode unfolds, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own beliefs and the absurdity of trying to predict the future. Jack and Cristina emphasize that while we may never know the exact nature of an apocalypse, the discussions surrounding it reveal much about human behavior and our desire for understanding in an unpredictable world. Join us for this engaging and thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional thinking about the apocalypse. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, there’s something for everyone in this lively exploration of humanity's most baffling ideas. Tune in now and share your thoughts on what you believe the future holds!
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- The Great Flood and its implications
- The role of government in potential apocalyptic scenarios
- Predictions from Nostradamus and the Simpsons
- The concept of multiple apocalypses
- The absurdity of our understanding of reality
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Rambling 297: Most Likely Apocalypse Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And as always, we're going to do that today. Now, last week, we went on a crazy rampage trying to ground. To do our job. To do our job. We're trying to do our job. And so we did that. But I had other plans at the beginning, and we never got to that. So this week, we're definitely going to get to it. Now, the world goes crazy randomly. Time repeats and events repeat. And people think the world is ending all the time. Cristina: Yes. Jack: Recently even did an episode about the apocalypse and which one we thought was. Was more likely. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because the apocalypse is coming. We're here to tell you the apocalypse is coming. I'm sure that if it repeats, then. Cristina: It'S never coming because we'll always have a period where we're like, the apocalypse is coming. Jack: But what if doesn't come? What if. What if multiple apocalypses happen? Cristina: Wouldn't we have noticed? Jack: Well, no, we. We're alive after it. Let's just think about it. Let's just use the Bible as an example. The Great Flood killed almost everybody. It was one family left that was on the ark. Allegedly. According to the story, they then repopulated Earth. That was the apocalypse. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Now there's evidence of a great flood. And there's a lot of stories to talk about the same moment from different points of view of the ark. Obviously, it's a mythological story that probably holds no real bearing, but that was the apocalypse. Cristina: What about the last one? That was supposed to happen. That didn't happen. Jack: Well, no, there's probably a bunch of. It's gonna happen and doesn't. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And then some actual apocalypses. Like the apocalypse has happened and we're here after the apocalypse happened. Oh, and we're gonna have an apocalypse. We see our apocalypse isn't. There's. There's not the apocalypse. Instead, I believe what we should be saying is an apocalypse. Cristina: Apocalypse. Jack: Yeah. There's an apocalypse coming. Cristina: Okay. But has nothing to do with what anyone's talking about. Jack: Well, that's what. That would be my next point. Right. Maybe somebody's figured it out. Like, there's a lot of random ideas. Somebody's got to figure it out. Right. Cristina: I don't. I guess. Like, you mean like just randomly. Jack: Not randomly. Maybe somebody really like it's everybody piecing whatever they can together in whatever way makes most sense to them. All religions and sciences do all the same thing. Cristina: Because were they talking about it before it happened? And with the flooding, where people like, an apocalypse is coming. It's going to be zombies, it's going to be war. It's going to be. Jack: I do believe. Cristina: And then it ended up being water. Jack: I think. Cristina: I think. Jack: Well, yeah, think about it. They. He was literally telling people according to the story, which means somebody was telling people there were announcements of a flood coming, but some people were believing it and some people weren't. Let's say that the. The. Cristina: But were other people spreading other stor. Stories of like, no, there is an apocalypse coming, but it's not water, it's fire. Jack: What would me. I don't know. Cristina: Whatever. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because that's what's happening now. I'm saying, like, there's not one person saying one thing and then everyone's what, believing it or not believing it? Oh, I'm sure a million things. Jack: No, I'm sure. I'm sure there was a billion different things happening at the same time. Maybe some thought it was the flood coming. Some people thought maybe the. Whatever civilization was over the hill was gonna come and kill them all or pillage them all or. Cristina: Mm. Jack: And that that was gonna be the end. Some people thought, no God is gonna come take us all literally. Cristina: I think people still think that, though. Yeah. Yeah. Jack: But I think that's the case. I think that maybe there were multiple apocalypses. And I think people. There were people that believed many different apocalypses were gonna happen, but only one. Cristina: Is the real one. Jack: Only one is a real one. It's like religion, the apocalypse. I mean, I guess. No, I guess you're the same. I guess it's the same thing. Religion and the apocalypse are the same thing. You can't have a religion without the ap. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because then what would it be? Right? Like. Or not. Let me correct that. That's wrong statement. 00:05:00 Jack: You can't have heaven without the apocalypse because everybody is gonna go get punished and the ending for everybody's coming, and one day there's gonna be nothing. Unless, I guess, no, you can fix that problem. You could say that Earth is indefinite, but everybody will one day die and transition to heaven. That means that Earth can go on indefinitely and that heaven will still exist. So never mind. You. That's also a lie of a statement that I made. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But you kind of. It's like all religions, or most have an apocalypse scenario. The World is ending is part of it. Cristina: But you think one of them have it, right? Jack: One of them might. I'm not saying one of them do. I'm saying one of them might. Cristina: Okay. Because someone might have came up with. Jack: Yeah, there's too many. There's over, what, 8 billion of us trying to figure it out. Everybody has an idea of what's right and what's wrong and how it kind of works. And like, I'm sure enough of us have enough pieces that maybe we've talked collectively. You know, that seven degrees of separation where everybody kind of knows each other indirectly somehow. The one person who needs to know the thing knows the thing, and he has all the parts and he knows it. Cristina: I don't know if he needs to know anything. I think it's just random chance that you'll just know. Say the thing you think that it is and it's right. Like it's just. Jack: But you don't think somebody figured it out? Cristina: I don't. I don't know. It could be just by accident. It could equally be either or. Jack: How if it's hyper specific. That's crazy. Cristina: It could be either or. Jack: Oh, my God. Were you the one who showed me that thing? That, that. That phrase. Not the phrase, the quote of the guy saying that we are. Yeah, it was you. That we are the. Cristina: The monkeys that end up writing Shakespeare. Jack: Yeah. Earth is. We're an infinite number of monkeys that continue to breed and make more monkeys. And we literally already wrote. Cristina: Right. Shakespeare. Jack: We already wrote Shakespeare. Cristina: Yes, that's exactly the apocalypse. It's just. It's just random chance that the one person will have the right answer, but no one's gonna believe them because we're all trying. We're all saying something different and we. Jack: All want to believe our thing. Yes, whatever. You're not special. You couldn't figure it out before me. Cristina: So it's gonna happen. Sure. But I don't know if it's because he really, truly figured out. I mean, he could have, but it doesn't really make a difference. It's just gonna happen. It's. It has to happen that someone is gonna have it right, whether they really thought about it or not. Because time. Jack: No. Well, the apocalypse is gonna happen regardless. But who got it right and how did they get it right? I think. I think if it's really specific, they could get it right. But then there's that argument of, like, absolute random chance and, like, I don't know. But also I think. I think it's purposeful and random. At the same time, if that makes sense. Like, Hamlet was not written by accident. The person who wrote it did it with intent. Now, within the universe, it seems completely random. Cristina: Okay. Jack: But it's our scale. It seems intentional. And that brings up a weird question about reality. You know, size and, like, what looks intentional and what doesn't. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because I guess if you zoom out far enough. Total random tangent here. But if you zoom out far enough, human behavior might look absolutely random. It's chaotic and I guess. And if you just back up enough, we just randomly kill each other, go into war and around our peace with each other at random moments and just. We're just crazy. But up close it makes sense. Cristina: Yes. Jack: I guess this applies logically to everything. Yeah. Same thing happens with, like, outer space. Right. You. You look at anything, it's like, oh, space is just chaos and random. But you zoom into an atomic level. This atom is responding to that atom simply because it was moving in this direction. And everything reacts that way. There's a. You could predict how it's going to go simply based on understanding it at a granular level. And you think unrelated. That was just an unrelated tangent. Cristina: That's what made me think of. It's not that someone will come up with an answer. Jack: I mean, somebody might. Cristina: That's just gonna be in the Simpsons episode. Jack: Here's the problem. Simpsons do a lot of random crap, so it always looks like they're predicting junk. But I think the problem there is the Simpsons have this. How do you call it? You know, these people who. Not pro. I guess it's a prophet. What is Nostradamus. He's like a fortune teller, right? Cristina: Who? Jack: Nostradamus, the dude who has a book. Who predicted a bunch of crap in the future. Cristina: Oh, yeah. I guess. Jack: And like, oh, my God. So much of it came true. And it comes down to, like, you. Cristina: Know, if you're just. Jack: You've had thousands of predictions, Homie. Cristina: Yeah. Like a few of them eventually 00:10:00 Cristina: will be true. Yeah. Jack: And the Simpsons has how many seasons they've been around for how long? Cristina: How many are wrong versus how many are right? Jack: Yeah. How many episodes go by that you couldn't say they predicted something for before something happens that you say they predicted something for? Cristina: Yes. Jack: You know, and it's like they're cherry picking. Cristina: Yeah. Like, if you saw the actual dicks of all of that. Jack: Yeah. It's such an infinitely small amount of things they got right versus things they got wrong. Cristina: But they still probably will come up with it. Jack: Yeah. And I'm sure That somebody's gonna be like, the Simpsons, you know, they called it, but it's like they've explored every idea there's. Cristina: Exactly. Yeah. They probably explored every different type of apocalypse. Jack: Yeah, a hundred percent. How many different ways has that world ended? And then it happens over here. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be a chemical plant. Oh, my God. The Simpsons predicted it would be aliens. It's like, what? Cristina: That doesn't make sense. Jack: That doesn't make sense. That does not make sense at all. Cristina: But that's what's going to happen. I guess they'll figure it out. Or we'll think that they figured it out, even though they didn't figure it out because they're just, like, making stuff. Jack: Up as they go. Pretty much, yes. Okay, so then my question is, how do we predict the apocalypse? And then in knowing how we predict the apocalypse, we can identify who would already know. Cristina: You think someone already knows? Jack: I think somebody must already know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. If somebody can know, somebody does know. We'll go with that assumption. Cristina: And you think we could figure out who knows? Jack: Well, we can figure out. We can try to get as close as possible, but beforehand, we got to figure out. The two assumptions we're going with right now are one, if it can be done, if it can be known, somebody knows. Two, it can be known. So we just have to prove how, though. We have to move forward with those two ideas right now. Cristina: How do you prove how? Jack: Well, we got to figure out how we could. How we're going to predict the future, how we're going to tell which apocalypse. I guess the idea is not when we were having the apocalypse episode, we were having a conversation about what we would do and just kind of theoretically, what's more likely. Right now, we're just going to totally weigh out which one is going to happen or not. We weren't deciding which one was more likely, but rather what were the possibilities. Now, knowing the possibilities will just figure out which one is most likely. Cristina: How. Jack: I think, for example, we can easily exclude robots. Cristina: Why? Jack: Because I don't think we're anywhere. I. We're wrong about what AI is inherently. We're just wrong about what AI is. We're calling it artificial intelligence, but there's no intelligence there. It's googling. And even when it's not googling, Even when it's not googling, it's just sort of reacting off of the information that it was trained on to begin with, which is to use all the information and simply organize it, it's imitating, it's not originating. It's never creating its own thought. There's no intelligence. It's not even learning it really. It's just spitting things out. And imagine keyword searches, okay. And this is answers that, this answers that, this answers that. Let me put those together and give all the important parts from all of it. Which I guess is also kind of like intelligence works to some degree, but because I guess that's what we do. Cristina: But it's not coming up with anything new. Jack: It's not going to come up with anything new. It would never make up its own thing. It would be impossible. It would have to always rely on imitation. And for it to be true, intelligence would need the ability to originate a. Cristina: Thought, which so far, no. Jack: So far, no. I think like the computers taking over, realistically, might not be soon or at least the soonest we. What we'd be discussing right now is which is the soonest, most likely. Cristina: Zombies. No. I don't know. Jack: We get. We've gotten pretty close with some pharmaceutical things, but it doesn't seem, I think definitely viral is up there getting sick. Cristina: Getting in some type of way. Jack: Yes. I don't know if zombies. I think we'd quickly just nuke that city and get that done with. We've got too much media making us paranoid and we're going to be like, now solve that one. Cristina: Okay. We're going to do Resident Evil. Jack: Yeah, probably. We just get rid of it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: So definitely not that I think viral. Yes. 00:15:00 Jack: No, I think no zombies for sure. Cristina: No aliens for sure. Jack: No aliens. It wouldn't like really, it wouldn't make sense. Why aliens wouldn't need to interact with us for what. Cristina: And if people swear they are, if. Jack: You can try, I mean, they can study us. That makes sense. We're a different creature. But they don't have to speak with us. They don't need to talk with our leader like none of that bullshit. And it does. They don't need to destroy our planet or take over it or anything. Whatever resource exists here exists in abundance everywhere else in space. And the fact that they can clear the distance of space means that their technology is so exaggeratedly overpowered they can make the resource they're missing. So they don't need anything from us. They don't have any reason. Studying us would be the most important thing. And other than that, like, why are. Cristina: They still studying us? How long does selling us take? Jack: Well, there's creep. We evolve, we change. We keep studying animals even after we know them. Okay, science is science. You, you're never fully informed. You're only closer than you were before, and that's as close as you can get. But. So I don't think they're gonna end the world though. If anything, they're helping preserve us from meteors and that could end us. Okay, you know, they're out there. Why has nothing hit us in so long that has just reset the clock? Well, they're out there somewhere, just like keep that planet safe. It's fine. They're just creatures developing. Cristina: That's possible. Okay? Jack: Possible. We never see them because we can't mess with any of that. But they're out there just protecting Earth. Yeah, aliens everywhere. Just. They're not even out there. He's got robots doing it. Cristina: Robots. Jack: They got robots destroying stuff. No aliens, no AI, no zombies. Definite disease. Seems high, but I think. You know what it's gonna be. The possibility to me is that it's gonna be a government created attempt to scare the people that gets out of control. Because they're trying to control the people again. Maybe the people losing control. And the government wants to hold its grip on society because of whatever the h***. Cristina: They're gonna scare us. Jack: Trying to scare us with a real thing they made. Well, only, you know, you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette. And then that omelette gets out of control. Cristina: But it's the people or the thing that they use to scare the people. Jack: They were using the thing to scare the people, to get the people back under control. Cristina: And then the thing. Jack: Yeah, think Covid. But it goes way rogue. Okay, so the government makes the thing, releases it on the people with an attempt to. Oh, we're gonna put new rules and lockdowns and this and that. We're gonna get our laws back in our side. And then it even goes out of control that the government can't control it. Cristina: And it could be just a thing like. Jack: Yeah, it could just be virus. Yeah. It turns out to be way more contagious than they thought. Okay, that seems likely to me from all of it. Cristina: Is that your final answer though? Jack: Well, that's just one thing. I've discussed. What other apocalypses could happen. I think that's definitely high on this. Until we discuss something that stands out a little more. Cristina: The government is deciding it. Jack: No, they weren't deciding on the apocalypse. The government was simply trying to scare the people with something like Covid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: They happen to turn out way more contagious and starts killing people or mutates really quickly out of Their control. Cristina: But. Jack: I think that's possible. But like, what else is there? That's not them plotting the apocalypse. This is the apocalypse by chance happening because they're stupid. Cristina: Would you think they try to. Like, what would plotting the apocalypse look like for them? Jack: The government tries to plot. Okay, fair enough. This would have to be a scenario in which they have all the resources they need and can live without the peasants, essentially. And so rich people would need to interact with the government. And then that's the. You know, those are all the elites, politicians and rich people, and they somehow work together to set, settle, let's say, you know, get Mars up and running and we'll abandon Earth and all of the people, and they'll have no leadership and they'll kill each other down there. We'll just come back in like two, 300 years after we've killed each other. Reclaim Earth. Cristina: What? Jack: That's the situation which I think the apocalypse is all leadership suddenly leaving with all of the important information and resources. Cristina: I don't know if they can do that, but that sounds crazy. Jack: Yeah, I don't think they can either. I think there's enough of us that we would just keep going, figure it out. Cristina: We can figure it out. Maybe they take the resources somehow, but I don't know what that would mean. Jack: Well, not even the resources. It's more of informational hierarchy. If the president left, and so did the Secretary 00:20:00 Jack: of Defense, and so did the vice president and all the senators and all the mayors and all the congress people and all the judges. Cristina: That's a lot of people. Jack: If they all left, if they all left, everybody with some higher status, all of them, the world, in the world, all in one time, who's gonna take charge? Cristina: I don't know. Jack: Death is gonna happen f****** everywhere. Cristina: Everybody wants it, so people are just gonna be fighting for it. Jack: Who's enforcing the law? Cristina: Mm. Jack: Who's making the law? Who's gonna punish you? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: I think if elites leave chaos. Cristina: Okay, that's. Jack: Oh, right. We never think about it, but easy. So they set up up there. They decide, okay, keep sending resources, survival things. Get it going. So it's independent and we. Literal paradise. We've made away from these people. Cristina: But then they want to come back. Jack: After we've killed ourselves and died out here, then they could easily reclaim Earth without a struggle and have even more resources. An absolute paradise. Plus all the technology and crap that. Cristina: Was left behind, we'd still be here. There'd be still people on the planet. They'd just be more dangerous. Jack: Yeah, I think we'd eventually end up back in order. There'll be a lot of murders at first and it would be chaos and it would just settle again. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Most of us. Cristina: They wouldn't be able to like communicate with what's left of us or something. Jack: No. They would just immediately get off. We're like. Those guys are aliens. Cristina: Huh? Wouldn't we think they're aliens? We would. Jack: They come from outer space. We don't know. We've never seen them. Those are people who live on Mars. They're Martians. They're claiming they're human, but they're Martians. They came from Mars. Cristina: That's crazy. No, no, no. Jack: It wouldn't cause an apocalypse that feels like the ending. It would look crazy. It would be a nuts period in time. The Earth just kind of quickly went into absolute chaos. But I don't think it would be apocalyptic. I don't think it would end. I think many most people would still be alive. Cristina: But you think if there is an apocalypse, the government are the people that would know that it was coming? Jack: I think only if they are responsible for it. Cristina: Oh. Jack: Which would be the same as a nuclear apocalypse. That's government's fully aware. So viral. It was probably the government trying to take control. That was what that was. Covet was. Cristina: Okay. Jack: That's covert. Was. It's American government facilities testing on viruses in China. Cristina: Were they trying to attack. They weren't trying to attack China or anything. Jack: What the h*** they were doing or why this. These people were always saying are the enemy. We're always working with. Cristina: If you're working with them. And they. Yes, we do swear they are the enemy. Jack: People are idiots. They'll believe whatever they're told. Those people are bad. Oh. But winning trades. Cristina: Something's not right. Jack: Something's not right. Yeah. No. They're always good. They're always bad. Cristina: They're always bad. Jack: Oh yeah. So definitely like nuclear apocalypse or viral outbreaks seem high for them knowing. Cristina: But nuclear. Who would even. Jack: And that's a total destruction situation. Cristina: Yeah. No one really wants that. Jack: But if it happened the governments would know. Cristina: Mmm. I guess. Yeah. Jack: You know, because everybody would start firing at everybody. The country that knows it's going down is gonna launch in every direction it had aimed. Because f*** you guys that knew and didn't stop them. And then every one of those countries are gonna do the same thing. It's a chain reaction. Cristina: I think everyone's just gonna. Jack: Everybody. I think if a single nuke goes out, all the nukes go out. Cristina: No, I Hope not. Jack: That's why they're called deterrence. Nuclear deterrent. You're not going to use it because they're going to use it too. Cristina: But once someone does, that's it. That's really it. Jack: A single one. Everybody uses it. That's the problem. That's actually the premise of Fallout, I believe. Cristina: Does someone used it? Jack: Someone use it? I think the world is affected, not just the United States. Cristina: I wish we knew more. Jack: Yeah, but that. Those are my. The government knows scenarios. Cristina: I think the government knows. Jack: So you think it's one of those two? No. There's an apocalypse. Could be other things. Maybe religious people are right. Maybe it's gonna be a religious apocalypse. Cristina: That one's a tough one because it's always like. I don't know. To them the world is always worse or it's getting worse. It's just bad people are immoral. They're monsters. It's like, are they. 00:25:00 Cristina: Has things changed? Is there more horrible people than there were? Jack: Well, no, but let's assume that the ending of the story is right. Even if it getting worse isn't. Then there's still an apocalypse. But then which religion. Which religion is right? Jesus is gonna come back. Everybody. Cristina: Because we're American. He is coming back. Jack: Everybody. Everybody. Over and most apocalypses have that happen. Some kind of a war. Most narratives are some kind of. Cristina: We're not even part of the war. Jack: At least not in the Bible. Cristina: I don't think so. Jack: I think. Cristina: You think there is a story. Jack: I think it's either Norse mythology or Greek mythology. The narrative is that one side uses the souls of the dead to fill their army out or some crap like that. I don't know if it's either one of those two. I know some religions. Cristina: What about the humans? The humans are used or. No. Are they just in the middle of it? Jack: The humans who are alive? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No. Everybody would die. Cristina: Everyone would die. And then our souls are part of the fight. Jack: Yeah. This. The. Basically the. Whether you've died or not, once the apocalypse begins, eventually you're just going to die. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because plot. And then you're going to be. You're going to join one side or the other, whatever. Cristina: I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me either because. What about all the people who don't want to choose a side? Jack: No. You force them to a side. It doesn't matter which. Yeah. I don't know why it makes sense as a story, but let's say that's right, then. Okay. Cristina: I don't know, it's just hard to imagine that, like, we're all told there's evil and good and you gotta fight for one and everyone's gonna really be. Jack: Easily choose, like, well, no, you're not choosing me. You know, there's good and evil. You're not told which one is which. Both are telling you, I'm good, I'm good there. Cristina: You like, why even fight then? Jack: No, because one of them is lying. Cristina: That's. Jack: And it's up to you to decide. Cristina: Why would you trust yourself in that type of decision? Jack: Because there is no option. There's a f****** war. Cristina: There is. And you're already dead. Why does it matter? Jack: You're gonna cease to exist. I guess would be dying after you've died is ceasing to exist. Cristina: But how do you know that's right? Jack: You don't. I don't know. These things that are already there are telling you it's right. Cristina: I know, it's just hard to believe after you die, like, whatever anyone says, it's hard to believe what they're saying. No, unless you believe everything everyone says. It's either everyone's lying so I can't do anything, or everyone's telling the truth now. Jack: I don't know what to do. You're thinking about this wrong way. Look at it like this. If you are a Christian and you die, and when you die, you are in this sort of blank slate place and you walk infinitely in what looks like nothing and eventually you come up to a white gate with a golden fence. Wait, no, if. Golden fence, A white fence with a golden gate. There you go, a white fence with a golden gate and a dude who's gonna. Who tells you to stand in front of him and he's gonna talk to you before he lets you in. You can for sure question, but you kind of know that. D*** the Christians got it based on all the clues. You know, you don't have to be like in. I guess everything else they said after this point is wrong. After the initial point you're kind of like, well, they got this part right. I might as well just follow the narrative now. Cristina: Well then what if you get in there and then it ends up being heaven, h*** or whatever? Jack: It could totally be the case. Then some of the parts of the story were messed up and as you got, but you got to follow it. But you're not gonna see the white pearly gate and question it and be like, well, I guess this could be fake. Like, no, you died and now you're here. Be like, oh, I get. What else can you do? I guess you're in the new plane and you have nothing else to go off of. You're not just deciding, well, after this point, they must be wrong. Okay, they got, they got it this right, but that's it. Like, based on what? So you just kind of roll with it. I don't think after the first confirmations you're just gonna turn on it, you know, so you die and you get to the war zone or whatever, and they're like, you gotta pick a side. You're not gonna be like, I can't trust which side resonates with you. You're gonna go with that. Okay, well, it kind of looks like this. And based on that text, it was kind of like, this side's a good guy, so I'll go there. And if you're wrong, you're wrong. The end. Cristina: Is there even a right and wrong? Jack: The Bible thinks there is. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You know, religions think there are. Islam thinks there is. 00:30:00 Jack: The Quran says, oh, there's good and evil. Okay, Jews don't think there is. Cristina: They don't? Jack: No, no. If you're going for Orthodox and traditional Judaism, there are many things that are absolutely different. Heaven isn't a thing that was added later. It's not real. Cristina: How much later? Jack: Quite, quite a while. There was no heaven or h*** for an infinity. Judaism did not have that concept. That was added much later. There's so many texts, so many texts. Cristina: With Jesus around the time. Jack: It wasn't added with Jesus, it was added prior to Jesus. I think the first mentions in the older texts start at the end of the Torah. But if said that at the end of the Torah or it came with Jesus. I know that most of the Torah does not have a single mention. And they were. The first parts were written in that order, so there's no existence of h***. It was just later it showed up somewhere. Cristina: So you just die. Jack: You just die and kind of join, become one. Actually, as a rabbi once explained it to me, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know what happens. We're not divine. And that's legit. Fair, bro. Any Christian that's like, no, this happens. It's no, no, no. You couldn't know. Cristina: You couldn't know. Jack: You couldn't know. You're not divine. You're not here and there. You don't know you're gonna be there. When you're there, you're just there. You're not over here. Cristina: It's too complicated to imagine that the Apocalypse is gonna be just one of the Bible endings. Not Bible, but religious endings is right. Jack: Why? Cristina: Because there's too many. There's too many. Jack: Well, that's even more proof that one of them would get it right, I guess. Cristina: But it's not like they knew. It feels too random. Or maybe. Jack: Depends how much of it they got right. If it's like a single detail and the rest of it is wrong. Cristina: But. Jack: All right, we'll give it to you. Cristina: Because then. Jack: Yeah, okay, that's random chance. But it's like, if you got every beat okay, like, then how do you figure it out, bro? There's no way you could have predicted that a tree in this forest is gonna fall. Then an explosion is gonna happen across the world at exactly this second. Cristina: Some horns are gonna sound. Jack: Yeah. From the whole sky, everywhere, all the time. Exactly at this date is gonna sound. And everybody's gonna hear all at once. Like, how'd you predict all of this? That guy knew something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Versus, like, during a storm, we're gonna. The world is gonna burst and bust into flame. And it's like, what if a weird volcanic eruption happened and it created a storm? Cristina: Because of all the block, Then obviously he was right. Jack: Like, yeah, that's chance. We could, like, give it to you because you got it. But like, random chance said that a volcanic eruption of a super volcano threw enough debris into the air and created an entire electrical storm. And then I think another super fire. Cristina: Volcano can explode and, like, kill us all. Jack: Absolutely. Absolutely. That could totally happen. Cristina: Could that just be the end? Jack: Yeah. I wonder how long after a super volcano would we all be dead? That would be an apocalypse. But like, what speed of an apocalypse would it be? Cristina: The perfect amount of speed. I don't know. Jack: Perfect amount of speed that maybe that's. Cristina: What'S happening on the road. I don't know. Jack: It could. It could. We have no idea. What the h***. Cristina: No idea. Jack: The ash everywhere and the blocked sky. Cristina: Yeah, we gotta see how long that does take. Jack: Super volcano. Cristina: Super volcano. Jack: Interesting. So now, I never thought about that. I always thought, like, nuclear warfare, but. Cristina: In Japan must sink or Japan sinks or whatever it was called. There was a volcano that exploded, but it didn't destroy the world. Jack: It wasn't a super volcano. Cristina: It wasn't a super volcano. It was a pretty big. It felt like it was super Mount Fuji. Jack: It was a volcano that's not super. That's not super. Cristina: What qualifies a volcano to be super? Jack: I think super volcanoes are so large, they don't look like volcanoes to Us. Cristina: They're so large they don't look like volcanoes. Jack: Yeah. I could be wrong in just saying s*** like if anybody who doesn't agree with this, comment below. That doesn't even make sense. But yes, wherever you'd go, comment, comment there and let us know. Cristina: In Spotify you could comment below or at least on your phone. I'm pretty sure you can. I don't know if. Jack: Oh I guess if you listen on Spotify, comment below on your phone, just comment. I forget we're on Spotify. Yeah, interesting. Okay. Okay. Super volcano breakdown of series of events. Right. Initial 00:35:00 Jack: weeks is from the day of eruption to three weeks. So eruption blast is going to kill thousands of people instantly and ashfall is going to suffocate the nearby populations. That's instant death. Instant death. Cristina: Instant as in like it's immediate. Jack: The people close to the blast. Yeah, this is just within the first three weeks. This is all happening. Cristina: Okay. Jack: All of these people are f*****. Then transport and flights completely are grounded. There's no planes going up. You can't see there's a lot of magnetism going on. There's a lot of chemicals in the sky. Food shortages are going to immediately start kicking in because of the inability to transport things in planes quickly. Oh and health care is going to get over overwhelmed right off the bat. Cristina: Okay. And that's all of, that's the first few weeks. Jack: All of that is the first three weeks. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So absolute chaos in the first three weeks. This is super volcano apocalypse now. Crop failures are going to follow in the first, first to three months from ash spread. Drinking water contamination is going to be widespread. Global supply chain disruptions are going to ridiculous. Starvation is going to begin in the poorest areas and the death toll is going to reach millions globally in the first three months. Cristina: The first three months. Oh my gosh. Jack: Then from three to six months we're going to have temperature drops and it's going to cause the crop to fail entirely. Food hoarding and riots are going to start to increase as people start to get hungry and desperate to in random locations. Respiratory illness is going to spread in an uncontrollable rate as the exposure to the ash is going to be absurd. Cristina: Wonder how much people are left at this point. Jack: Migration from affected areas is going to begin and the death toll is going to be in the hundreds of millions. Cristina: Okay. Jack: From three to six months. Six months to a year. Nuclear winter is going to cause mass starvation and infrastructure breakdown in all regions. We're going to have disease spread due to poor sanitization sanitization, sanitation and governments collapse in many regions around the world. And we're going to start reaching the billions at this point, in the first year to two years, the persistent cold is going to kill surviving crops. Cannibalism is going to begin around this place. Population drops to survivalists almost exclusively. Global communication ends completely. And the death toll is going to be roughly over 90% of humanity in the first two years. Cristina: The first two years we're done. Jack: The first two years is 90% of humanity. Year three to five, Ash begins to settle. Worldwide, small agricultural zones reappear. Few communities rebuild infrastructure. Survivors adapt to the new ecosyste. Some and remaining humans, millions, the entire Earth collectively, only millions would remain would start to rebuild. So we would have the new. So that would be an apocalypse. Yeah, I think that's the post apocalypse. So we don't need everybody to cease. What we were seeing during the flood was the most crazy of events. It was so exaggerated. Cristina: Wait, you're talking about the Bible flood? Jack: The flood, yes, that Bible flood. If that was real, it's so exaggerated that only one family. The real idea would be you didn't know everybody on Earth. You thought everybody around you was all that existed. And maybe around the Earth after that flood happened, many people just like you survived. And those people repopulated. And that explains the giant differences between cultures. Cristina: You think they thought I don't understand so but like once they got off the boat, they would have noticed if there was other people? No. Jack: Why? Everybody's dead. Cristina: But there are people out. Jack: There are people out there. So it's Earth. Cristina: But when they're breeding with their children or their children are breeding with themselves, like they never realize or look around, I guess it's just them. Until eventually I'll paint this picture for you. Jack: Noah makes the ark. Noah gets on the ark. There's many people around Noah. There are also already natives in the Americas and in South America and people way over in Asia and in the depths of Africa. Migration has happened long. 00:40:00 Jack: It's been hundreds of thousands of years. Migration. We're everywhere. And then the flood happens. Now he doesn't know that people are this far spread out. Since the last ice age, the ground connecting where they migrated over doesn't exist anymore. It was ice. They walked over ice. It melted away. Now you don't even. It's been so many generations since that happened. You have no perspective. But you're here. Flood happens, everybody around you dies. All of them. You never see somebody again who wasn't in your family. You think Earth drowned and you wrote history. You're the last people surviving who know how to write and tell stories. Cristina: How many generations did it take before it was not just his family breeding with itself? Jack: Well, it would have to repopulate the entire general area. Everybody was his family, no matter what. It's. Until we start going into, like, they met Asians or they met South Africans, or they crossed and met people in. In South America or in North America. Cristina: Very strange. Jack: But everybody else is related to them to something. So. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: At least to the top guy. Cristina: Yes. Which I guess, in the end of the day, doesn't that mean, like, if you believe in the Bible, you also believe you're part of Noah's family? Yes. Jack: It would have to be. You're part of his lineage. Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's Noah and it's. Jack: Yeah, we literally have us. The way I like to think about it is as follows. Adam and Eve. They create all of humanity that goes completely out of control. Then the destruction of everybody but the family. That will be the new Adam and Eve, pretty much. And then they again do that. They are 2.0. That's also why they are considered to be the important. Cristina: Except also Eve died. I. I guess you got to get rid of Eve no matter what. Eve does not exist, because isn't she the one? Oh, no. I'm thinking of the different story crap. All these Bible stories are ridiculous. I was thinking of the lady who looks back at the city and then she dies. That's not a. That's a different apocalypse, Right? Jack: That's not apocalypse. This is a city. Cristina: Oh, that's just the city. Jack: This is the world, allegedly. Cristina: Okay. Jack: People who believe in the Christian Bible and in the Torah believe they are descendants of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Everybody is a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay, that makes sense, I guess. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: In this weird way. All right. Jack: But that still means we're descendant of Adam. Because you can follow a line between Adam and Noah. Noah is some descendant of Adam. Everybody is. But really, everybody is also a descendant of Noah. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It's not that everybody's a descendant of Adam, but not a descendant of both Cain and Abel. You're either one or the other. You get my point. No, it doesn't work that way. Everybody's a descendant of Noah. Now, if Noah had five children, everybody's a descendant of one of those five children. Nobody's the descendant of both. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Or all five. I guess there's five. Cristina: Unless they made it with each other. Then you were. Jack: Unless they made it with each other. Yeah. Cristina: At least two of them. Jack: Yes, exactly, exactly, exactly. You would be a descendant of at least two. Yeah, but that would still mean descendant of. We're all descendants of Noah, according to this narrative. Cristina: Okay, that's very strange narrative. Okay. Jack: Now it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. That caused the Earth to flood. Cristina: I guess. Jack: So it must have been some crazy rain. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And was there no water on Earth before then? Where'd the water go? Cristina: Where did it go? Jack: It went to the center. Not the center, but it sank into the Earth. The Earth absorbed the water because then. Cristina: Where did it come from? Jack: Interesting. Let's assume the story is true. The story is true. Okay. What are we really talking about right now? We are talking about some sort of meteor fall that as it was entering the atmosphere, the fire was burning it down, the water and it just kept evaporating in our atmosphere, filling it out. There had to be some crazy. But they were all small rocks of H2O just burning in our atmosphere, filling it up with water, water, water. And Dennis just starts. There must have been a crazy colossal meteor that just missed us. That was really gonna end the job. Cristina: But like an ice ball. Jack: Yeah, Giant ice ball coming through and, you know, a bunch of surrounding smaller balls, but it passed really, really, really, really close. Maybe Earth didn't have a bunch of water yet, but really, really close. Or maybe Earth had right amount of water. Maybe we consider the ocean isn't directly connected to the center. 00:45:00 Jack: Maybe that's just a pool that has no exit and all the water is stuck there. But maybe there's holes here and there where water can go down. So when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, the drain after the flood was quick because everywhere else the water would dissipate through. It could get down into the surface. But where the oceans are, there's no escape. So a giant meteor is coming through. It's. It's an ice rock, an asteroid coming through. And it has a bunch of small. Many, many. It must be huge. It must be some moon sized rock that just barely missed us. And then we're getting bombarded by the smaller ones that are burning up in the atmosphere. Cristina: No one notices that. Jack: I don't know. And how would he have known? That's the other problem. If we assume this is true, how would he have known? The billabo? How could you just know there's a giant rock from space? It couldn't be that. He had to be like a meteorologist or something. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And be predicting the movements of the clouds. I don't know. I don't know how do you flood the Earth? Cristina: That's kind of crazy. Jack: How do we scientifically ground this in a way that makes sense? How'd you flood the Earth? It couldn't have been. It had to be just this area. Cristina: It had to. That would make the most sense. That makes the most sense. Jack: Like everybody's ever been around is flooded. Cristina: Yeah, that's it. Like if he was in that weird Greek town that was flooded. Was it Greek Indian town? Oh, that was on the water and it just disappeared. Because they flooded it themselves. Jack: Yeah, but they knew that other people existed and they were. It's not. That's a small area. They could have easily traveled on foot somewhere else. You have to be such a. It still had to be a pretty epic flood. Or. These are people who never traveled anywhere. And it was. I mean, I guess maybe it was really hard to travel. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: A time where? In an area that was underdeveloped. Cristina: And are they on an island? Jack: No, but just assume we're. They're in an area that's underdeveloped and they are in. It's desert. Underdeveloped desert. And there isn't a lot of other places to go to. You guys are some of the first people. It's only been a couple of generations, right? Man. How many generations has it been between. Cristina: Between him and Adam? Jack: Between him and Adam. Yeah. How many people exist at the time of Noah? Cristina: Look that up. Jack: Okay, okay, okay, I got some answers here. In the entire planet at the time of Noah, there was roughly about 10 million people in all of Earth. Cristina: Okay, Right. That's still a nice amount of people. Jack: Yes. Now in the area directly surrounding Noah, like his general region, there was about a million of those people. That was one of the starting points of all people. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And like that and Africa probably had the two largest populations. Cristina: Okay, I thought you were saying like a hundred people. Jack: No, no. In that region. But it's important to keep perspective. Noah existed in a time and place that. I was right. Travel was nearly impossible to any faraway community. They didn't know other communities existed. And there was no worldview. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In the time of Noah. They did not. Cristina: That was their world. Jack: That was their world. They didn't consider that there were other people farther out. That wasn't a thought. All that existed is everybody you've seen. If you saw somebody that you've never met before, they claim they were from a far off place. Now suddenly that place exists in your world. And that often didn't happen. Most people thought them and their closest communities were all that ever existed, which. Cristina: Is a big size community. Jack: But okay, so relatively speaking, he would have thought so in his direct surrounding area, about 500,000 to a million people. Right. But his perspective based on who he might have ever seen and who he has seen has ever seen, he would have thought that There were about 10,000 people in all of Earth. Cristina: 10,000 people. Jack: 10,000 people in all of Earth. Additionally, his region could have easily flooded in its entirety and killed everybody if it, if a flood happened. Let me correct. I couldn't easily have flooded. If a flood did happen there, it could have easily flooded the entire region and killed everybody. So yes, he could have honestly believed, but everybody died. Cristina: A million people or the 10,000. Jack: He thought 10,000 in his region that we would. Where we would point at it on a map. There were about a million people. He was so far from most of those people, he probably didn't know they existed. Cristina: Okay. Jack: In his small within the dot, we would point out from million people. 00:50:00 Jack: Those people are so spread out between each other that it wasn't beneficial just. Cristina: Losing a million people. I mean, a thousand, ten thousand people. He probably would be like losing the world. Jack: The world ended. If 10,000 people died, he thought everybody was gone. Cristina: Okay. Jack: If his area flooded and 10,000 people died, he's like, there's nobody left around me. By the time the flood is gone, he never saw another person ever again. Cristina: All right, so then we're not all connected to him. I mean, maybe they want to believe. Jack: No, that's the Christian Bible. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: Okay, but definitely his belief could be justified. And most of the world never even realized that happened. Cristina: Yeah, it's just a flood. Jack: It's just a flood. That was fair enough. Kind of large, but just in his spot. Cristina: But in the real, in like right now, could a flood like that happen? Well, in that could not have happened because that didn't happen. But like, could the world get flooded? And how Earth? Jack: Yes, it would have to be like I said, it would have to be like a giant ridiculous rock coming through that's all ice and bringing mad small ice rocks. Maybe it made impact long before it got anywhere near us and broke into a billion trillion tiny little pieces. So small. Cristina: It's gonna be a lot of water coming from somewhere else. Jack: Yeah, they're all just ice so that the moment they hit our atmosphere, they start just melt away. They just melt away quickly, all of them. But one does it fine. It just turned into a little cloud and you know, but then another and then another, and then another and then another. And it Keeps happening. It keeps happening and keeps happening. It keeps happening. It keeps happening. Cristina: How huge could asteroids get? Can they get planet size, moon size? Jack: Yeah, yeah. This won't be that. And also something like that would be making impact of crap left and right is huge. Gravity. It would be aiming at other crap. By default we have too much gravity. And plus whatever gravity of the thing it would just have made impact eventually become small anyways. That's why they're usually certain sizes. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And. And we literally just call things that are those sizes rogue planets. Cristina: You know, rogue ice planet hits us. Jack: Yeah. It would have to be a rogue ice planet because we wouldn't call it a meteor or an asteroid. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It just know you've crossed the threshold now you're even rarer. But yeah. We can expect big enough sizes and then get bombarded regularly until it starts to become too packed and starts to rain little by little versus a couple of days of rain without stop. And the rain always, always, always is heavier than a minute ago. Indefinitely more. Cristina: But what are we dying? Jack: Would. I mean a lot of people would if it caught us off guard. Well no, the problem is with our current day technology wouldn't happen. Cristina: Both. And we'll just be both people. Jack: We'll be both people. Cristina: But could we survive off of just fishing? I guess would be the way because there's no plants us like you get seaweed I guess. I don't know. Like obviously the food. There will be a huge problem in the future. Jack: If we jump a thousand years in the future and we say that the planet is always flooded. We've adapted and we figured it out in the apocalypse scenario because you can think in the future. A thousand years in the future plants adapted and became the water plant survived. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: And plants that could be drowned and handle it have adopt adapted and we've figured out ways to get them. And we've grown plants on the sides of buildings and on top of buildings that are floating and crap. And still if a big enough flood we've made skyscrapers those are going to be packed with people. Cristina: Yeah. So you'll think it won't really be the end of the world. It'll be the end of whatever we had. Life as we know it's like yeah, it's going to be a whole different type of life. Jack: And I still. Yeah. I think if we. If it's coming, we know because we have the technology to prepare and see it coming from a million miles away and turn society into all. Cristina: You can't just flood in a day like you Just can't. Like no automatic. Everything's flooded. Jack: No. Cristina: That kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. There's no chance. But like, how could that even. Jack: I mean, we could change the scenario a little and say we see nothing in space and then tomorrow it's the moon's distance from us. Do we have the time to start building the boats? We won't. It's gonna flood. But now how bad is the flood gonna be if it's. It's still not gonna happen overnight. No, it's gonna build up slowly. Cristina: So you can still plan. Jack: Yeah, we won't. People are gonna die. We don't have the facilities. Cristina: Yes. Jack: For this. Cristina: People will die. But it's not never gonna be as high as other scenarios. Jack: No. 1 we're throwing. Most people are throwing everything out of skyscrapers. Leave the bottom. Everybody get the f*** away from the building. We're emptying every floor from bottom the top and stocking all the skyscrapers with all the food, all the food we could find, all the skyscrapers. Scientists 00:55:00 Jack: are going to give us an average based on how much rain they think for how long. And hopefully they're right. And it doesn't go beyond that point. And we're going to go. Starting at the top and we're just going to the. When the rain begins, as the flooding begins, we will start to inhabit these buildings more and more and keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up until we can't go up anymore. Not everybody's gonna fit. Cristina: No. Jack: Billions are gonna fit. Cristina: People find other things. Jack: Boats for days. Cristina: Raptors, Rafters. Raft. Yeah, raft. Boats. Jack: Oh, rafts, things. Cristina: Little boats. Jack: Yeah, yeah. Just boats and crap canoes. Everywhere would be fine. A bunch of people be fine. Cristina: The. Jack: Other problem is, is this gonna be just flooding or is this gonna be storming? If it's gonna be storming, people are on boats. They, the skyscrapers. Cristina: I was thinking of flooding, but like it could be storming. I don't know. I don't know. Jack: No, it's f*****. Especially if trees get swallowed up. Cristina: Yes. Jack: If trees are underwater, you're f*****. Trees stop floods. They slow down waves and movement. If you have a giant forest by the ocean before your city, the trees slow down any kind of impactful water from gaining momentum. But if it goes over the trees and a wave can just roll over it, then what? Cristina: But would like the world becomes flooded because of this asteroid? Are there also more storms because things are different? Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Cristina: Like, is that a product of what's going on yes. Jack: The humidity level is going to rise ridiculously. It's going to make everything way f****** hotter. The sun is going to directly be hitting water all the time, creating vapor consistently. That's going to rise and create an infinite cycle of rain. After the ice finishes landing on Earth, the amount of rain that has established is going to cycle through indefinitely. If it floods over trees, that's crazy amount of flooding. And it's just going to cycle indefinitely. So it's going to be so much humidity with the sun always hitting and there's going to be moisture in the air always. And there's going to be vapor in the air always. And clouds are going to be be packed and dense always because the sun is always hitting. And it's just going to be an infinite cycle of rain and rain and rain and rain. Cristina: Okay? Jack: It won't unflood. It will never unflood beyond a certain amount of water. Cristina: Okay? Jack: I'll never unflood unless I'm right. And the earth has gaps underneath in which the wash the water will just go. And what we see as oceans isn't because there's more water beneath them, but rather because that's. That's an area that water can't escape from. If that's the case and everywhere else, water will eventually sink through the ground through, okay. And it might be a really long time before we have what we consider dry. But if that's the case, people in skyscrapers will be fine if they have the resources. People on the boats will probably die because of the storming and crap until the water sinks in. Cristina: What if they're on big, those big, big, big boats? The big. Jack: It depends, right? Because the big. The bigger the boat, the safer by default. It depends on the type of wave too. Really really small boats on really really big waves do fine because it'll unnotably just the wave is so big it doesn't affect the small boat. It would go under it. If you have a really big boat and a really big wave, you're f*****. Cristina: Oh. Jack: If you have a really big boat and many small waves, you're fine. If you have a small boat and many small waves, you're okay. Cristina: If you have a submarine, you're good. Jack: Depends how high the water went. You just need to be below where the waves would affect you. Cristina: So can you like what would not work out? For a summary, if the world is flooded, like what? Jack: No, they could just submarines already in the ocean world floods again. Good. You're fine. Anybody on the submarine is fine. They don't Even notice. Cristina: Okay, they're fine. Jack: Water over them, it's just take longer to get up. There's more pressure. You got to go higher up now. I guess so, because the water level's rising everywhere. Cristina: Well, hopefully they can figure that out. Jack: But I guess flooding could happen. I don't know if it's the most likely or even probably not. Cristina: Probably not at all. Jack: But what else could happen? What other apocalypse could there be? The volcano is pretty badass one. I think that's possibility. But we don't know. That's random chance. And they we would start rebuilding after five years. Cristina: I don't know. Probably that government making something that accidentally. Jack: Leaks out a virus, right? That feels so right. They're gonna be like, no, we're just gonna do a little of it to scare them. Cristina: It 01:00:00 Cristina: happening once makes it feel like, okay, it could happen again. It happened once, man. I made it even the first time. Jack: Dude. I'm sure many of these other diseases and things that have rolled by in the past were the same thing. Cristina: Exactly. People already question a lot of other things of like, was this the government's cancer is probably. Yes, yes. Jack: So probably right. Cristina: So yeah, maybe that's most likely. Jack: It's the government's full of s***, bro. So, yeah, I really, really. I think so too. I specifically think some kind of a viral outbreak, something similar to Covid that we just. That really goes rogue to control. It's. Oh yeah, it's Covid 2.0. We're gonna throw it out there and. Cristina: You know, we got pretty sure there was a cop two and three. Jack: Yeah, whatever. Some Covid chapter two. And they're gonna have like a vaccine or something. They'll be like, no, we. We built vaccine before we threw it out there, so we're good. And then it mutates one step too far and it's like, crap, we don't have a vaccine for where it went. Cristina: So dumb. Jack: And then it's like, oh crap. And anybody who catches it has liver failure by the next day. And it's like, d***, everybody's dying everywhere. It's like, d***, bro. Cristina: Yeah, that's exactly what's go happen. Jack: Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Some crap like that. Cristina: But then. So at the end of the day, the government knows. Jack: I guess it would have to be an apocalypse that was caused by the government. And they know. But afterwards they wouldn't tell us. In the moment, they'll never admit to it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Because we would revolt. Didn't want that. The whole point was to try to take control. They're going to make us revolt further. They're not going to tell us. Cristina: Okay. Jack: So that's definitely. I do agree. I do it. I think that's the most possible. I don't know what the point of this conversation was. Why were we trying to figure out what was the most likely? Cristina: I thought that was your topic of the day. Jack: No, no, we never got to that. I guess we'll have to do that next time. Cristina: What? You said this was it. Jack: I know, but we had to figure out how the world is going to end. And apparently it's going to be a viral outbreak that the government is going. Cristina: To cause by accident. Ish. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Semi is not really. I don't know. Like, it's not intentional, but they definitely let it happen. Jack: Yeah, I mean, it's like it's. It's basically the argument for 9 11. Right. What that is like, you think they did it? I mean, if they didn't do it, they knew it was gonna happen and they, like, they didn't stop it. Cristina: Okay, yeah, something like that. Jack: You know, it's the argument for 9 11. I mean, I won't say they did it. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But like. Like they knew they had intel and they could have easily. And they were like, it'll be in our benefit if we let it happen. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: As it goes. Cristina: That's. Yeah, that's it. Jack: I guess just a moment of it'll. Yeah, sure. It'll be in our benefit if it gets out. We'll easily contain it. The scare will be in our benefit now they're scared because most of them died. And they're like, we don't know what to do. Cristina: But that's. That's the thing. That's what happened with COVID I guess, in a way too. Jack: A bunch of them. That's. Cristina: That's it. Jack: So I guess. Cristina: I guess next week we'll find out. Jack: Yeah, next week we'll find out. But at least this week we know that the apocalypse is definitely gonna happen. Cristina: And Noah was exaggerating. Noah's was. Noah's story was exaggerated. Jack: Exaggerated. It does not. It doesn't fit, man. It's crazy. It's impossible. But, yeah, whatever. Anyways, so the next time we'll. We'll definitely get to that stuff and you guys can tell us what. What apocalypse you guys think is going to be the most likely. Just sit down. Cristina: Think about. You think actually knows it, because that was part of it too. Yeah. Jack: If the government isn't the knowing party and somebody. Oh, it was because we were trying to find out if Nostradamus was a predictive genius or something. Not really. But like, if somebody were to to by chance know for a fact, yes, Apocalypse is coming, what would be the most likely scenario? And it would definitely be the government having accidentally made it themselves. Cristina: Yeah. So if you have a different answer to this question, let us know. Jack: Yes. Contact us. Send us a message at. Just convopod on X, on Facebook, on Tick tock, on Instagram, wherever you want. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most overpowered thing in the world. If you know somebody who has even better answers, tell them to listen to it and get ideas and then tell us. Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. S.A. 01:05:00 Cristina: good morning. Good morning whoever dub attempt. The podcast is hosted by Cristina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black. 01:05:29