Rambling 129: The Doomsday Clock
/Has the apocalypse happened? Is there a way to predict when it will? The Doomsday Clock and a priests predictions of the Rapture are unpacked a day after the ending of the world on this episode of Just Conversation!
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Topics Discussed:
- Mayan and Christian Calendar
- World War 3
- The Fig Tree
- The Apocalypse
- Fat People
- Biological Weapons
- 2nd Amendment
- The Road
- Starvation
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
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Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then you say, it's because it is a literal life and death situation. And she's gonna say, what? Or assuming it's a she. Well, in this scenario, it's a she because I'm the one talking. Okay, but let's assume whoever the listener who's trying to get somebody else to listen is, is talking to a she. So if you're female listening to this, you're lesbian for this moment. Or I guess it could just be your best friend. That just got real tense with. I guess whatever the case might be. You're talking to a female, and now you identify as a male, too.
Cristina: No matter what you.
Jack: No matter what you are, you currently identify as a male and you are talking to a female, regardless of whether that's what's happening.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Anyways, you tell them this, and they're like, what do you mean? And tell them the world is ending. If you don't listen to the podcast, it's like, how does that work? And it's like, I pressed a button.
Cristina: You pressed the button.
Jack: There was a red button.
Cristina: The list, the. Wait. The person that's saying this to them pressed the button.
Jack: Yes. We mailed them a button. We mailed our listeners a button. It's connected to a nuke. I don't know where the nuke is. It came out of the quantum computer.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh.
Jack: I just said, make something dangerous and it spit that out. And I sent it to all the listeners, and I'm like, somebody's gonna press it.
Cristina: Well, I have some news. I have to spoil your fun. That's a great idea. I wish they could have done that. If they Were listening now, but the world ended yesterday, I'm sorry to tell you.
Jack: So did that work?
Cristina: I don't know. Because they got it today. They're doing it today. Yeah, but if it ended, they can't do that.
Jack: So this is the post apocalypse?
Cristina: Yes. Well, it can be. There's two options, of course, depending on what happened yesterday. But we weren't there to see because I'm too scared. I'm afraid to find out that I've lost all my loved ones.
Jack: Why? F*** the loved ones.
Cristina: Well, anyway, yesterday, the world might have ended. There's this pastor. There's this. I guess. I don't know, this is just one of the many conspiracies online, I guess. I don't know if this is a bunch of people believe this or this is just one person's crazy writing, but this pastor explains on his website this whole detail of how and why it's ending yesterday. And I'm gonna try my best to explain to you why yesterday was the date.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: To start off, you know when the Mayans got the date of the apocalypse, it was supposed to be 2012.
Jack: Yeah. They got the numbers wrong instead of 2021, 2012.
Cristina: It wasn't just them. The person that gave them that information was Satan.
Jack: Of course it was.
Cristina: Yes. And he got the number wrong. I don't know. Like, I guess he was also trying to figure out when the apocalypse is so he could be ready and let his people know. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What his reasoning for trying to figure it out. Because I would assume he maybe would know already. I don't know. But I guess for Satan, it's gonna be a surprise as well as for us. So the devil was wrong. Of course.
Jack: See, that makes total sense to me that somebody would say that because that means they don't get how time is calculated. And like the Mayans, I don't believe their Calendar literally said 2012. I believe the way they were calculated. Because we count 2012 based on the Christian calendar.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We're just kind of putting together where their calculation would land. This is a person who made a prediction and had no idea that's what happened.
Cristina: Well, obviously the Mayans were tricked to follow a different. I don't know, they were taught to.
Jack: Follow a calendar that didn't exist yet.
Cristina: Yes, yes, exactly. So maybe, maybe they did have the Christian calendar as well and they just lost it.
Jack: And that's why we're like, later in the year 2000. Well, in the year one or zero.
Cristina: In the year zero. They figured it out. There was no year zero, though. There wasn't like, a day that was.
Jack: Well, now we start counting, people. Okay, everybody, now we're gonna agree to start count. No, what happened with time was that they chose. Somebody decided this is like, the starting point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then they calculated everything backward and forward from that moment.
Cristina: Yeah. So, but when was that year? That was like, year 11,000 or something.
Jack: Yeah, it was just 18,000.
Cristina: They discovered, like, or whatever. Okay, that's interesting. But, yes, there was no year zero. That's an interesting year, though. If anything happened that time, did they just skip zero?
Jack: They just skipped zero zero.
Cristina: There was no zero. Oh, okay. There's just one and negative one.
Jack: We got to think of it like Koreans do. Like, year one is also year zero, but it's like, from day zero all the way to 365. That's year one.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Now think of centuries. You'll be in the year 2000, but be in the 21st century is because you're adding all the numbers from the beginning of the year 2000 to the beginning of the year 2000 and 2100, that's the 21st century. You're counting all the dates within that as part of the 21st century.
Cristina: Yeah. So that's what would happen with zero.
Jack: Yeah. Okay, so the first year is zero to 365. That is year one. So in any case, I guess Koreans are the ones who have it, Right.
Cristina: Oh, snap.
Jack: Holy s***. Who would have thought that?
Cristina: Then would the year of the end of the year be the right year?
Jack: No, that means the numbers are f***** up anyways. It would have been 2013.
Cristina: Oh, then does that mean if this calculation that he does is right, would it be 2022 instead of 21?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Oh, no.
Jack: He was wrong. No matter what the case might be.
Cristina: Okay, well, the way he figured out his math. Because there's math involved. Of course.
Jack: Of course.
Cristina: Like, super scientific here. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. One plus one.
Cristina: Yes, pretty much. Okay, so you remember the story of the fig tree, right?
Jack: Sure. The God angry at a fruitless tree.
Cristina: Yes. Jesus sees a tree, he's like, why don't you have figs when it's not fig season? How dare you? You're cursed. Now it dies.
Jack: Seems like something Jesus would do.
Cristina: Yes. And then he tells a story about a mountain, and then he explains, if you wish for any, if you pray to God, God is gonna make it happen.
Jack: So, okay, let's. Oh, my God. So Jesus, AKA God.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Goes up to a tree, and he's like, tree you should have figs on you. You should have figs right now. And see, I'm God and I make whatever I want happen. You should have figs. So if I pray to God, who's me, then anything is possible. Thus you should have figs, but you don't have figs, which means me, who I prayed to, didn't do the thing I prayed to me to do. So I'm destroy you, fig tree. This is on you.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The end of story.
Cristina: That is the story. That is. Yes. Or at least that's my understanding of the story.
Jack: Conclusion, if I pray to me and I don't do what I told me to do, blame whoever is closest.
Cristina: It's the fig's fault. The fig's fault because it didn't have his religion. Because somehow the story is a symbol, or the fig is a symbol of the nation and not being religious enough.
Jack: The fig didn't have enough faith.
Cristina: Yes, the fig didn't have enough faith. What that is what the true story. That's from an actual Bible. People who look into the story, they're like, yes, that's what this story means. But back to the pastor, though. He's saying that that's actually the start of the doomsday clock. There's a hidden message where the fig tree is Israel, which is what the people who interpret do think. The fig is fig is Israel, the fig tree is exile.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: That's why it was like they think it's at that present moment, it's dead, or it's. It's because they don't have faith in that time. But the priest today thinks it's because this is gonna happen now, that that's not back then that he's talking about. He's talking about what's happening right now somehow.
Jack: Right. Like that big tree. Okay, so how does the math come in that justifies this?
Cristina: Yes. Okay. He starts off with seasons. For some reason, he talks about winter and spring and summer and that Jesus said that Israel is going to come back to life somehow with seasons. I don't know the true math. Okay, look, it's a little crazy. Okay, I understand. But since Israel became a nation again, he sees that as spring, and that's the start of a whole season for the fig, which is Israel.
Jack: Okay. Why is it real, becoming a nation, the deciding point of a season?
Cristina: Because Jesus said so. He feels like this is what Jesus is talking about. He thinks Jesus is talking about what's happening to Israel right now.
Jack: Israel, boom, nation. Thus spring.
Cristina: Yes. And then summer. Well, first it was winter, actually. Israel wasn't a nation anymore. Then spring, it becomes a nation. Then summer is when things are going to get bad and the apocalypse happens then. That's what we're waiting for, for summer. And there's something about in which generation is this great big second coming and the end of the world stuff is going to happen. And he says, like, it's going to happen in two generations or something. In the Bible, a generation equals 40 years or 70 years or something. So in 1948, it became a nation again. And then 40 years from that is 1988. And then he adds 40 more years for some reason to make it 2087. And then he minus seven years to make it 2001.
Jack: He added 40 once and got to 2087 twice.
Cristina: He added it once to make 1988.
Jack: Got you.
Cristina: And then again to make 2028.
Jack: Okay, that would make sense. 88 doesn't make sense. 2088, that number's inaccurate.
Cristina: Yes. And then he minus seven because there's going to be seven years of horrible stuff happening. So that's why he subtracted seven pieces. I don't know. Who says seven years? It's going to be seven horrible years. But he's saying biblical. Oh, okay.
Jack: Rapture.
Cristina: So when you -7 is 2021.
Jack: So there's three years of peace, four years of h***, or something like that.
Cristina: Okay, but so there's two things that could happen. Either yesterday, Israel was forced to bomb Iran to end their nuclear threat, triggering World War three and the crash of the world systems and start of the apocalypse. That all happened yesterday.
Jack: Sweet. I didn't notice. I must have been asleep or.
Cristina: This pastor wins the Bible lottery. The Bible code lottery. That's his words. The Bible code lottery. He figured it out and he starts this church. And this church does so well that God is like, all right, I'm a stop Iran's nuclear program with an earthquake, and then we get a few years of peace. The end.
Jack: No apocalypse. Everything just keeps going.
Cristina: Yeah. For a short time. I don't know when the next. Like God's.
Jack: Oh, he built in his re date.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: He built in the redate.
Cristina: Yeah. In case. So when his church does succeed, if it did succeed yesterday, then, well, the apocalypse is pushed back.
Jack: Fair. So his church, it all hangs on his church.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay, sweet. That seems legit.
Cristina: I love it. It's amazing, right? Did you know that 22% of Americans believe that the world will end in their lifetime?
Jack: 22%. I mean, I guess we're all f****** stupid. That's. Of course we think that everybody's paranoid.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like in mass. It's mass hysteria. That's paranoia. And then media convinces the dumbest of people that everything is at its most crucial. And then it takes even the dumbest of those people and divides them to opposite extremes to fight an imaginary war that is orchestrated by people who pretend to be on opposite sides wearing suits, but are obviously working together and made up the narratives that they got their people who are fighting the wars to follow. And then we're just talking one country at this point. Obviously, we're just talking the United States, but it's happening. If it's happening in the rest of the world. You zoom out and then you remember that there's a place called the United nations where the people who send the people to war shake hands and agree they're gonna send people to die versus each. You could just blow that guy's brains out in that room and your problem is solved. No, me and you, we're safe because we're part of the United Nations. The people from our countries, we can draft those m************ into war and they're all gonna die. All made up. Yeah, it just all got made up behind closed doors. And then dumb people fall for it. If you believe in democracy, in republics, if you're unrelated to democracy and republics, a democrat or a republican, a leftist, a rightist. Regardless of which country you come from, if you pick the side, you're a f****** idiot.
Cristina: Who. You're on the wrong side.
Jack: Yeah, you f******. You're an idiot because you believe there's a side. They made that up just for you to believe in it.
Cristina: Ooh. Yes.
Jack: They entirely designed it for dumbasses who would believe there's a side. And then they trick you into believing it's the end of the world. Consistently.
Cristina: Consistently. That's why so many people around the world truly believe that a religious figure is going to return to save the chosen few. Yes, that's everywhere. That's not just here, that's everywhere.
Jack: They have that belief all of time, though.
Cristina: So it's part of religion. Pretty much, yeah.
Jack: All religions have this form of thing that's going to come and save you.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Even freaking. What the h*** is it called?
Cristina: The alien one, the alien religion.
Jack: Scientology. You can be saved by aliens from 3,000 years ago or miles away or some s*** like that.
Cristina: 3,000 years ago?
Jack: I don't f****** know. I just know. The point is, aliens are going to come and take us.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's like, what the f***? Everybody has some salvation story.
Cristina: Exactly. Yes. Well, all of this reminds me that fake news is such a problem and that fake news has even entered the real doomsday clock. We talked about the fake biblical doomsday clock that happened yesterday. I mean, maybe it's not fake. Who knows? I haven't checked outside yet. But there's a real, what I'll call the real one, which is the science made, I guess. Doomsday clock and fake news has entered into what they're worried about.
Jack: Yeah. Because they're gonna trigger retarded people to react in the dangerous situations. The insurrection was triggered because fake news.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The assault on Asian Americans is because fake news.
Cristina: Yes. So many things.
Jack: War is formulated because fake news propaganda Russian hacks into our systems and create fake narratives that then cause people to be paranoid anti vaxxers, freaking the leftists taking over the world. But then the right is, you know, being all rogue and it's like, doesn't matter where you come from, what side you stand on.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You fell for the fake news.
Cristina: So many fake news.
Jack: Yeah. Both sides are susceptible, but it's targeted towards the dumb people.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If you believe any news outlet. You fell for it.
Cristina: Yes. So that's why they had to add that. And from learning about that, I found out that the doomsday clock has been around for 75 years, just waiting for us to get close to him for the actual doomsday, which would be us starting it as human beings.
Jack: Oh, yeah. Nothing else that's gonna happen. Like no meteor is gonna. We're gonna become innovative enough to solve that problem.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Instantaneous. What we can't solve is. Oh, that a****** has a button. Well, you know what I have?
Cristina: That's exactly how it's gonna end. I mean, we're already there. We're just waiting for who presses that button first.
Jack: We're waiting for mutually assured distraction.
Cristina: Yes. That's really what they're watching. That's all they're watching for.
Jack: Some douche is gonna press the button.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then some other a******'s gonna panic.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then everybody's gonna start pressing their respective buttons and that's it.
Cristina: Hopefully we're in Mars by then.
Jack: That's.
Cristina: I guess that's the only thing. Like, we gotta get some people over there. So once this is gone, I think.
Jack: Elon Musk is to get us the f*** out of here. Because he's like, they're stupid, bro. They're really gonna just cause this. I just need to be off before that happens.
Cristina: Yeah. What it's problematic, but it's gonna happen. So on the Doomsday Clock, we're the closest to the end that we ever been.
Jack: It's always the case. I know. That is a fact about the Doomsday Clock.
Cristina: I've always been like that.
Jack: You were always the closest.
Cristina: Well, the closest.
Jack: Inching.
Cristina: Yeah, it's always inching. But it's always moves back and forth, though, as well.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Like, away from it. What is it?
Jack: But when it comes back in, it comes back in harder.
Cristina: It's way, way seconds away. Yeah.
Jack: If you were to think about it and think of a grandfather clock.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Except rather than swinging really hard to both sides and then focusing in the middle, you start in the middle and you gradually tick harder and harder and harder. And your swings are more drastic every time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we're in the really extreme swings where one day we're almost there, the next day, a moment away from peace, and then again, totally nuclear moment.
Cristina: Well, right now we're at just 100. We're just at 100 seconds. And that was since last year, because they do it every year. But last year was the closest. And this year is. It's the same. They haven't changed at all. It's that bad. Yeah.
Jack: It's 2021, part two. It's 2020, part two. It's 2021.
Cristina: Yeah. Yes, yes. And besides, we got what fake news we have to worry about. What else do we have to worry about? Oh, they also watch, of course, for nuclear threats. Did we already say that, too?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Yes. And I don't know if you know this, but in 2019, there was almost 13,900 nuclear warheads in the world.
Jack: Don't we have like, 99% of that?
Cristina: Probably, yes. But, you know, the highest was having 7,000. I mean, 70,000. In the mid-1980s, there was 70,000 nuclear warheads in the world.
Jack: But those were weak sauce next to the nuclear warheads we have now. That's why we had less. They're way more overpowered.
Cristina: Oh, yes, that's true. That's probably true. Also, climate change has been added to the list since 2007, so.
Jack: Because we're always melting everything.
Cristina: Yeah. And that's the most controversial thing that they've done, because, of course there's the.
Jack: Climate change, because f****** back to the deniers.
Cristina: Yeah, the deniers. Yes, exactly.
Jack: It's part of that person who picks up snow and brings it into a freaking town hall meeting. Do you think there's fake. There's a. Is climate change real? Then how am I holding snow? It's like, I don't think you comprehend what climate change is.
Cristina: No, no. So fake news and conspiracy theories are important to them because the conspiracy theories, what worries them is the WHO anti vaccination movement and how that's like. Some things that were gone because of vaccines have come back because people don't want to take the vaccines for it. That kind of stuff happens.
Jack: It's crazy that we would have gotten it under control because people understood how vaccines worked and somehow that knowledge got lost.
Cristina: I don't think they knew how it worked. I think it was advertised to them. Good enough. Well enough that it was like, oh, yeah, we should take it because it's popular, or something like that.
Jack: But then fake news jumped in.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, it was probably fake news of, like, it's gonna help you, even though we're not really sure it's gonna help you.
Jack: And then, you know, I'm saying fake news popped up. Oh, yeah, I see what you mean. Because then fake news popped up and, like, convinced them otherwise.
Cristina: Exactly. Exactly.
Jack: How many people have no idea how vaccines work? Yes, they're too stupid to do the.
Cristina: Research, but the scientists aren't good at explaining things either.
Jack: God, I hate scientists. They're so dumb, too.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Like, they're academically smart. They are not necessarily even intelligent. They just have academic information memorized. If they were intelligent, they'd be like Einstein, that you could rephrase it without reciting what you read from a textbook.
Cristina: Rephrase it? That makes sense to a child.
Jack: Well, that would be the point of rephrasing it in the first place.
Cristina: Okay, yes, yes.
Jack: So that you can say something that isn't what you read off of a textbook. But scientists are f****** stupid. They just have good memories.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So they can only repeat what they memorized off of a textbook.
Cristina: And then the average person is going to see that, hear that, and think of gibberish.
Jack: Yeah, you. You're lying to me. Because you're telling it to me like this. We need people to study Einstein and learn to communicate things to people so that they can be like, this is what it is. And you'll be like, oh, I can picture that.
Cristina: Yes. So ridiculous. And a few things that they're looking. A few things that they're looking into, but it's not really on the list yet. Is disruptive technologies like synthetic biology and gene editing.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: I wonder what horrible things could happen from that.
Jack: Wait, why are they looking at that?
Cristina: That's in case something horrible happens in.
Jack: That I somehow Doubt that. The whole purpose of that would be for us to become better, to remove problems.
Cristina: Well, maybe someone's gonna use that to do evil. I don't know how.
Jack: I mean, I guess it would be weird. You'd have to acquire fetuses that aren't dead. Like, you're talking about the sketchiest, darkest holes of science.
Cristina: Oh, like some.
Jack: Well, they're worried about the ground. I mean, there was that guy who was just f****** splicing DNA of humans and pigs and animals and s***. Like that was a f****** thing.
Cristina: Oh, yeah, we found that guy. He disappeared.
Jack: Yeah, he just some Mexican guy who just bailed. He went to China to do this. Did this thing.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: Trail runs cold as f***. Yeah, that's the guy who made Scooby Doo.
Cristina: Oh, yeah, that guy. Oh, my gosh, yes. They're looking at him. He's on the list. Well, he's not on the list yet. They're waiting to see what he does.
Jack: Man, you know what's f****** crazy?
Cristina: What?
Jack: That's China again.
Cristina: That's China because he went to China.
Jack: To be able to do it. That's mad f*****. Is that just like the anything goes over there?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: D***, bro. Maybe that's mad f*****.
Cristina: Yes. And they're also worried about artificial intelligence because of weapons mostly. You know, smart weapons.
Jack: I guess they think they're gonna turn on us.
Cristina: Maybe.
Jack: That seems highly unlikely.
Cristina: What? These aren't on the list. These are like in the far future. Let's see what happens. It's not anything. This isn't stuff that they're actually on. This. This isn't what they decided the clock on or anything.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Really looking into this. They're just.
Jack: And how are we. Just a couple of seconds. I don't understand.
Cristina: We're a couple of seconds because of all the things that I mentioned.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no. That means that in exactly 100 seconds from this moment, everything should end. How is.
Cristina: Because that not the case.
Jack: What does 100 seconds really mean?
Cristina: It doesn't really mean anything. It's. It's just a symbol. It's just a metaphor of. It's good. We're really close. Like, one simple mistake extra that you add on to this list might actually end the world.
Jack: Got you. That makes sense like that.
Cristina: Yeah. And they started. They started this list because after World War II, a lot of the scientists that were part of the Manhattan Project and were working on the nuclear bomb, they were just. At that time, they were just wanting to be Germany in making the nuclear bomb, and they weren't really worried about, like, what's this gonna impact the world if we actually, you know, use this thing? They were just like, we're scientists. We gotta do this. And then after the atomic bombs were used in Japan, they were like, oh, crap, this is bad. This is not fun. And then they were worried that we could destroy the Earth with these things.
Jack: Which is pretty accurate.
Cristina: Yes. And that's when they started this list and seeing, like, how could we convince leaders and people to take care of the Earth and slow down with this whole arms race and all that stuff?
Jack: Who pays attention to the clock?
Cristina: They're hoping that the government will pay attention. I don't know if they do, but that's their goal. And for regular people to be concerned too, because I guess they expect regular human beings to protest together to make change or something.
Jack: You know, make everybody paranoid.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Try to stir up some madness.
Cristina: In a good way? No, not a mass hysteria, I think.
Jack: No, it's kind of mass hysteria. They're trying to scare everybody into action.
Cristina: Yes, I guess, in a way. Yes. Yes. But they think it's realistic, not something imaginary like the biblical doomsday.
Jack: So you're saying the biblical doomsday is imaginary?
Cristina: It's from one guy's point of view.
Jack: How is he not the guy? How do we know he's not the guy?
Cristina: I don't know. I'll find out when I go outside. But as far as I know, he's not the guy. But I don't know if they're the people either. Like, I don't know, they're also doing what he's doing. So who knows?
Jack: You tell me who's not. Who doesn't have faith in some random s*** and have a thing they call the Bible to a scientist? Equations. Scripture. Follow the equations. It tells me all the answers. You mean like the Bible tells these people the answers? Yeah, yeah, the equations tell me all the answers.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: But you can't prove anything there. Well, they're theoretical.
Cristina: Yes, but.
Jack: So you have faith in these theories? No, no, no. It's fact. But you can't prove it. That's why it's a theory. It's just religion.
Cristina: It's just religion. Well, this. Yeah, I guess so. We got two different doomsday clocks, okay? And they're both saying the end is near.
Jack: One says it already happened.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. One says that it's already happened unless he actually saved people with his church. And then it moves back a little.
Jack: A little. Got you enough time to save more people.
Cristina: Yeah, so keep pushing it Back then.
Jack: Eventually save everybody and you'd beat it.
Cristina: Yep, I guess. Right? No, it eventually has to stop, though. There eventually has to be an end because the apocalypse has to happen there. Whatever. The Rapture.
Jack: Yes. There's God, thus Rapture.
Cristina: Yeah. So there's no. Like, we can beat it.
Jack: And then, you know, what's the biggest hole in this guy's plan?
Cristina: What?
Jack: The fact that he can push the apocalypse that God decided back. Is this guy somehow related to St. Patrick?
Cristina: Maybe he's got some St. Patrick's blood in him.
Jack: He's a descendant. Oh, snap.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Just.
Cristina: If he does it, God's gonna help him. That's. That's the deal.
Jack: That's the deal.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess. So if he gets enough people. I don't know how much he is enough people. How much was it for that one story where God was like, I'm gonna destroy this place unless you convince a hundred people. And then he's like, no, what if I convince 10 people? Okay. And then no two people or something like that. You know that story?
Jack: Yeah, Yeah, I remember that story.
Cristina: So what if it's like that? Like, if you just convince two people that the doomsday biblical clock is true, that they need to be Christian or whatever it is if they convert to whatever he's selling, that he's. He saved the world.
Jack: Maybe. I suppose. Yeah. I don't see how it would be any different.
Cristina: Yes. Yes. In 1953 was the closest before 2020, where it was set to 11:58pm after the U.S. and the Soviet Union had hydrogen bomb tests. Right. In 1991, it was the furthest away from the. From midnight. It was 1153 in that year. The end. It was the end of the Cold War, and they signed a Strategic Arms Reduction treaty so that they would stop or to reduce the amount of dangerous weapons they had.
Jack: Who?
Cristina: The world. The America and the Soviet Union, I guess.
Jack: Got it. Got it.
Cristina: And so the way they. The way the scientists do this, every year, they begin in November, and they meet up in Chicago for a day and a half, and they ask two questions. One, is, is humanity safer or at greater risk than the year before? And is the. Is humanity safer or at greater risk than all the years since 1947, which is the year they started the clock?
Jack: And that's how they measure how much further to push it.
Cristina: Yeah. Whether to move it closer or farther from whatever it is.
Jack: We're not necessarily always more dangerous than we were the year before, but we're always consistently more dangerous than when we began. And if we take any five year sample, at least we're always significantly worse than any five year before us.
Cristina: You think so? We have a. We don't always move. Also, there's been some periods where it's been the same. Like from 1953 to 1960. That's not a lot of years. But those years, it was all that year. I mean, at that time it was all the same time. It's not always going up and then back down. There's been years where it's straight down, which is bad, but then some straight ups, which was good and good. Like when I'm saying up and down, I mean like closer to midnight is down, and farther to midnight from midnight is up.
Jack: So 1991, we were further from midnight, further from 1947 than we are now in 2021.
Cristina: Yeah. We're like, wait, what? From what year? 1947. Yeah. And for how far we are from the clock from midnight, it's 100 seconds, which is a minute and two thirds. They actually used seconds for some reason instead of minutes, they used seconds. This was the first time that they used seconds instead of minutes. That's how bad it is right now. And yeah. So it's still 100 seconds to midnight.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: And what's like you said earlier, that panic, misinformation and racism relating to Covid has just spread all over social media, all over the world, faster than the virus. That's pretty crazy.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: Again, stupidity is the main target of anybody seeking money. If you're trying to sell something, because everybody's trying to sell something, and fake news is just you selling stupid f****** information, but you don't give a s***. You're trying to get the views which equals money.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And so you'll sell dumb s*** to dumb people who buy your dumb s*** regardless of what side they land on. If you're buying it, well, you sold some dumb s*** to somebody.
Cristina: Yeah. Have you heard. How many conspiracy theories do you think you've heard so far in my life? Since the vaccine?
Jack: Relative to the vaccine?
Cristina: No, to the coronavirus, actually. To the coronavirus. How many conspiracy theories have you heard so far?
Jack: New ones or in general?
Cristina: In general, I guess.
Jack: Conspiracy theories about the virus or since the virus?
Cristina: Since the. About the virus? Both. I don't know. I want to talk about both. Okay, but first I'm going to talk about how the coronavirus was made or.
Jack: Why you are asking how many conspiracy theories about the virus I have heard or just in general, like monkeys came from the.
Cristina: No, just about the coronavirus. How many conspiracy theories have you heard about the coronavirus?
Jack: I don't know, 10.
Cristina: 10. Well, have you heard that the coronavirus. There's one that it bears the sign of the beast, symbolized by 666. I don't know how they found the number on the virus, but a priest found. Did math, of course.
Jack: No, he didn't.
Cristina: But okay, he did math and I'm sure he showed it to people and it was like, look at this math. I didn't actually check up his math because it just. It's too ridiculous. Where do you find this stuff? But people do. Coronavirus is an American biological weapon. You for that one.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: The Chinese. It's a Chinese chemical weapon.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: Oh, we talked about this one. It's caused by 5G towers.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: It's caused by Bill Gates to put a microchip in you.
Jack: Yep. Heard that one too.
Cristina: It's caused by Bill Gates to sell you vaccines.
Jack: Didn't hear that one, but that makes sense.
Cristina: I don't think that makes sense.
Jack: Like he could own these vaccine companies for.
Cristina: Okay, he has. Yep. Yep. The coronavirus isn't real.
Jack: That is the most common one.
Cristina: That is the most common one. And it's just another flu.
Jack: That is not necessarily conspiracy theory.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's. It is a Covid.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which so is the flu.
Cristina: I guess people just think it is the flu.
Jack: It's not. Not the flu. It's Covid.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which is what? The flu. They're both coronas. I guess Covid is the wrong name. But they're both coronaviruses.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: There's just different kinds of coronaviruses. We've had coronaviruses forever. SARS is coronavirus. It's just a different kind of SARS that we're dealing with right now. So it is sort of kind of the flu. It's just, you know, the flu took some steroids or some s***. At the beginning it was way weaker.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But then it got to the fat.
Cristina: People and the old people.
Jack: And the old people. It was just raging, Ray. That's where it got its like legs. It started running dash and darting. Just f****** people up. But also we're in a consumer culture where we sell McDonald's to everybody and they eat it because they're weak minded morons who don't really care about their health. And then when they're starting to die, they then get scared. It's that thing about the every atheist in his last moment praise.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That's exactly what's happening here. It's like, oh, my God, I need to be healthier. And it's like, you have had your life to make this choice. Now you decided, nah, maybe if it takes you out, you just had it coming.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's where I am with this virus. I got no problem. I want everybody to catch it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: 100% of us. If you did not prepare for this, this is your fault. You went to school where they taught you health and hygiene and you had parents who told you clean your. Wash your hands, brush your teeth, take a shower. We all had that. At least the majority of us. And the ones who didn't have such a robustly, ridiculously overpowered immune system because they're so g****** dirty that this coronavirus enters your body and it f****** dies.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Okay, so you're either in one of these two extremes or you're a fat.
Cristina: Person and you should die.
Jack: And you probably should die.
Cristina: Ow.
Jack: And look. Oh, we shouldn't. Fat shame. Fat people are dying because the virus kills fat people. That is literally what's going on.
Cristina: Do you think Phyllis Gates has a problem with fat people?
Jack: Who's Phyllis Gates?
Cristina: Bill Gates. Do you think Bill Gates has a problem with fat people?
Jack: Oh, no, I don't think he actually made this virus. I think this virus has a problem with fat people.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And old people, it just has a problem with people who aren't healthy.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: And if you're obese, you're not healthy. And you know, big is beautiful. We push that so much, we have one of the highest f****** counts in the world. That's how badly we push. Big as beautiful.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like, bro, it could be, but healthy is more beautiful.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Big could be as beautiful as you want it to be. It will never be as beautiful as healthy. If big is beautiful, then healthy is f****** gorgeous.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that's how it goes.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: This virus is taking the bottom tiers down and only leaving the top.
Cristina: Ow.
Jack: You were beautiful. You weren't gorgeous. You were just beautiful in. You didn't cut. F******. You didn't make the bar. Oh, no. This 300 pounder is equal to that 115. Nah, nah. I promise. If you were to take some health tests, you'd fail. You'd get a very different result. Like if we couldn't look at you physically and just. You gave us blood and we took samples and we couldn't see you. If we just had that, we could tell you you're ugly based on how unhealthy you are.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh.
Jack: That's all it would take we don't need to see you. You're just ugly.
Cristina: You're just ugly.
Jack: You're just ugly.
Cristina: I hope they become. That's a rating system in the future. What?
Jack: Like, how healthy you are, man. I don't know why we don't push that. It should be like, the healthy you are, the sexier you are, regardless of how f****** you really land. On a scale of 1 to 10, like, how round your face is or to color your eyes or color your hair. The tightness of your waist. If you're healthy, who gives a s***?
Cristina: We gotta know what your doctor says about you.
Jack: Yeah, well, it. I guess we should normalize being attracted to people who eat well and seeing people exercising. Me like, oh, yeah, that's f****** nice. Somebody eating well. Oh, yeah, it's f****** nice.
Cristina: Be turned on by those things.
Jack: Yeah, we gotta normalize that because we're like, big f****** fat thighs and huge a****. And, like, one. Most of that is fake.
Cristina: People have a fetish for that. They're like, you eat more, eat more.
Jack: Media did that.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: Rap was not the mainstream, but they had women shaking their a****, Usually bigger women, all sexy and s*** and skimpy outfits and whatever. And then rap became the mainstream, and we still maintained that in those videos. But now people want it to be those things because it's the mainstream. It's cool, and I want to be cool. And thus we have in real life today, people we were looking down on in music videos 20 years ago that is just like, it left the f****** music video and is just walking around outside. It's like Michael Jackson jumping out of the f****** screen and Family Guy and snatching up the kid.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, it was in the screen. Now it's just out here.
Cristina: Mm. Well, I'm fat racist. You're fat racist. Okay.
Jack: Ever since. Ever since COVID I'm on COVID side.
Cristina: I'm like, look, you're pro Covid Joe.
Jack: The rest of us are f***** because of these people.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: If there weren't so many fat people, the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with this s***. There wouldn't be that many people dying. It's because there's that many unhealthy people. It's the fat people's fault we're all f*****.
Cristina: What about old people?
Jack: That's not their fault.
Cristina: They're old, but they're dying.
Jack: Aren't they way less than the fat people. Oh, it's the fat people in places where overweight was the minimum, age was the maximum. So if you don't have enough overweight people. All you can calculate is the older people. Think of Italy. Absurdly healthy country. Obesity. One of the lowest countries with obesity. Italy also, they have some of. Actually, literally the largest elderly population in the world.
Cristina: Those are the ones.
Jack: And that's who was dying. They didn't choose to get old. That f****** happened. Yeah, that happened to them. Not by them, but in these countries. Like, our population isn't majority elder. We're majority young. We have crazy young population. For us to pretend that it's not the fat people's fault that we're dealing with lockdowns and forced vaccinations. No, it's the fat people's fault.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: We don't have enough old people for it to be a problem the way it was in Italy. Well, we don't. We don't. It's so small. Our elderly population is like 15%.
Cristina: 15%. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, it's. It's.
Cristina: How much is the fat people?
Jack: 65% of the American population.
Cristina: What? 65.
Jack: 65% of the American population. You're more likely to see somebody overweight than somebody. Not on average.
Cristina: On average.
Jack: If you were to see three people, two of them are overweight.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: That's where we are.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So, of course all this s*** is their fault. We're dealing with it because of them.
Cristina: Wow. Yeah. F****** fat people also. But what if. What if the coronavirus is trying to keep the masses obeying the government?
Jack: So it's a nanovirus.
Cristina: I guess it's for mind control. I don't know. I guess it's killing off people. People who disobey the government.
Jack: No, in this case, it would still be some sort of biological weapon, but intentionally created for the sake of having the right to impose these laws and rules by scaring people into agreeing to them.
Cristina: Oh, yes, that's. Yeah, that could be.
Jack: It's the whole get rid of guns problem. Like, nobody's really trying to get rid of guns, but the ideology behind that is, if we wanted to.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We just go ahead and send a couple of people to shoot up some of the leftist areas, then they would force us to remove their guns, and then if we wanted to overthrow them, they'd have no guns to fight back with.
Cristina: Is that a conspiracy or that's a thing?
Jack: No, that is a fact. That is exactly the point of guns in the. The amendment. The Second amendment is to defend yourself against a tyrannical government. Yes, the government is who's trying to get rid of your guns. Yes, but they usually don't do crap, but wait until you try to push it and then they're all on board. Yes, yes. We need to do this depending on.
Cristina: Your party though, I guess.
Jack: Not really. If you got money, because even some Republicans lean into it. It's really just about if you're rich and you kind of probably make money off of guns too.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Like if you're an NRA member, you're probably paid off.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You're making money by supporting this.
Cristina: Which many of them are.
Jack: Which many of them are. Because ultimately if you're not an NRA member, you have no benefits here. Yeah, f****** get rid of the guns. If you wanted to overthrow these f****** would be way easier if they didn't have some. Not to mention it's f****** stupid to say you want guns because at the end of the day, what is your stupid pistol gonna do to a tank?
Cristina: I don't know. You're gonna throw it at the.
Jack: Yeah. What are the Republicans think they're gonna do? Well, I got my gun. If the government tries that, bro, they got missiles.
Cristina: They got robots.
Jack: Yeah. They got roach you can't beat no. Figures. Your gun isn't s***. It's fully automatic, bro. Their missile is like a tank that flew 100 miles per hour at you.
Cristina: They got dogs robot that looks like that dog robot from the Black Mirror episode where it was like an apocalypse and just dog robots everywhere.
Jack: Yeah. This is just real s***.
Cristina: It wasn't even like any scary type of robot chasing you. It was a little tiny dog robot that looks like it could flip really well.
Jack: But it's a total robot. That's good enough.
Cristina: Yes, yes. And of course the coronavirus was made to kill the old people because someone really hates the old people.
Jack: No, but that. I've heard about that one. That's population control.
Cristina: Oh, that's part of the population.
Jack: Because we allegedly. We don't. It's not that we don't have enough resources. They're distributed very shittily. We have a bunch of rich people with a s*** ton of resources and then poor people with none of it. And then we're like, there's not enough. But also we like don't use most of the land on Earth either.
Cristina: So what do they get from killing the old people?
Jack: Well, they're idiots and they think that there is a population control problem.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And if that was the case, then if you get rid of all the old people who are already going to die eventually.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You ease some of the resources strain so they could be spread out more Evenly amongst everybody left. But again, we don't have a resource problem. We have a resource management problem.
Cristina: Definitely.
Jack: And so I get where they're coming from. But just kill the billionaires and you suddenly have a lot of resources.
Cristina: Yes. I don't promote that.
Jack: You don't promote killing the billionaires?
Cristina: I don't promote killing anyone. Not even the fat people.
Jack: That was. The virus is doing it for us.
Cristina: Exactly. But I'm not encouraging the virus. The coronavirus is made to kill poor people.
Jack: It's funny, though, because, like, the homeless people have, like, flourished in us.
Cristina: That they're flourishing. Yeah. A lot of people have become the poor homeless people because of that. Yeah.
Jack: There's been sort of a flip. People who are already homeless and poor have been put up in hotels so they wouldn't be out exposed, and thus they had better amenities. But then people who lost their jobs are the ones who replaced them on the streets. And those resources were already taken by the people who were on the streets. So the poor people kind of won, especially with free checks and s*** like that. It's the people who work. It's the middle class who got really shafted.
Cristina: Mm. So was the coronavirus for them?
Jack: It was to take out the fat people, the old people, and make the middle class poor and make the poor stable.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's to shake it up. The billionaires at no moment moved position.
Cristina: Nope. Everyone else said.
Jack: Everyone else said, wow.
Cristina: It was manu. It was made to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Which is exactly what it is.
Jack: Exactly what's happening.
Cristina: It's exactly what's happening.
Jack: That is the right one.
Cristina: Maybe. Maybe it was made for that. Who knows?
Jack: It's definitely what happened if you owned a toilet paper company, a mask company, glove company.
Cristina: Lotion.
Jack: Lotion. Sanitizer.
Cristina: Yeah. In the beginning, sanitizer was.
Jack: Yeah. Not lotion. Sanitizer.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So sanitizer, any of these things you stacked, and you're probably staying stacked for a while. Like, even if they bought in bulk and they can't come and buy more.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It doesn't matter. There's other people still buying, probably more than they need to and using it more often than they need to anyways.
Cristina: People are probably buying bulk cans, camp foods, and all that other survival list things.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: You know, like, you're never gonna need it, but it's gonna get old.
Jack: It's gonna get old eventually.
Cristina: Eventually you're gonna end up eating it. That sucks.
Jack: On the flip side, look old. Better than not.
Cristina: Yes. Is it? We won't get you sick if it's old. Like how old?
Jack: I don't know. I have an idea.
Cristina: Because I guess, I don't know. We'll see when they need it. I mean, maybe they're right and there is an apocalypse outside right now.
Jack: In the road, they would find cans.
Cristina: And still eat it.
Jack: And still eat it.
Cristina: Yeah, it's better than that. But how do you know that's realistic?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: I don't.
Jack: Also, if the road ever happened, I'd kill myself.
Cristina: Exactly. That's why that's not realistic.
Jack: Like who's gonna make it that far?
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Intentionally, like I wanna. For what? Just f****** die, bro.
Cristina: Yeah, that story's not realistic.
Jack: No. Everybody would just kill themselves.
Cristina: Exactly. There's no point. There's nothing left. There's nothing. You just die a slow long death.
Jack: Yeah. You're just playing a game of who's the last man standing.
Cristina: For what?
Jack: For no reason. Just to be. And you can't really tell if there's somebody else lasting longer.
Cristina: Exactly. Like if you are the last person, then what? What's your reward? What do you get?
Jack: You know what's funny? Never think about this, but in reality there's probably a couple of billionaires that really did stockpile enough and have like some facilities on the ground or s*** that they could still survive off of until they actually die of old age. But we don't see those people because we're just a normal guy's life after the apocalypse.
Cristina: Yeah, but that's probably like a real thing. Yeah, yeah.
Jack: It's probably like mad people still alive. He's just not around them or doesn't know how to reach them.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh crap. People living underground. Yeah. Another conspiracy is that doctors have been silenced from letting people know that the COVID is fake.
Jack: That. That's a complicated one because we heard about that a couple of times in a couple of ways.
Cristina: But were those fake news?
Jack: I don't know. Because there were doctors themselves that said they fired me for trying to put real information.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And it happened a lot. There are 30, 40 doctors fired for like not willing to forge paperwork that said it was worse than it was. In some cases they got fired for not forging paperwork that said it wasn't as bad.
Cristina: It's hard to say. Yes, that's. Yes. But there's also crazy doctors who are like, there was that crazy one. I don't know how many doctors said this, but there was one specific that I remember that said that the mask wearing mask was bad for you. And was actually activating the covalent in you by wearing the mask.
Jack: I don't see how that would make sense.
Cristina: That was a real doctor, though. I guess so. I don't know if you could trust every doctor.
Jack: I mean, there's crazy people everywhere.
Cristina: Yes. So some doctors I like. How do you tell which one is like the crazy one or the one that's being honest about, like, hey, this. This strange thing is happening and I don't know what to do, so I'm sharing this.
Jack: I don't know, man. I don't know. It's real f***** up. Through a f***.
Cristina: So just to remind you of that.
Jack: Both sides of that. God, what is wrong with the world right now? Because everything is coming out in pairs. That's the problem. It's. Everything is so divided.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We get both arguments at the same time. Right. So we get it's not as bad. And I tried to tell people it wasn't as bad and I got fired and they suppressed all the data that I put together. Yeah, it's way worse. And they don't want me to tell you it's way worse. And there were way more bodies and I tried to put together the data and they fired me because they didn't want me to tell anybody. It was worse. Yeah, it's like, how the f*** did both of these things happen?
Cristina: Yeah. It's different countries, though. Like, I know the way worse ones, or I think they were from like China and Russia where two of them that were like, it's way worse than what they're saying.
Jack: But then in America turned out it wasn't China. Turned out it wasn't. That was United States lying about China.
Cristina: Oh, my God.
Jack: That was us bullshitting. Oh, that one turned out that it was a hundred percent the US Making crap up.
Cristina: Okay, but what about the Russia one? Was it Russia or German or one of those countries over there?
Jack: Russia's hitting it hard right now.
Cristina: Oh, okay. But they. They're lying about how hard.
Jack: Yeah, they're pretending it's not even happening.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh, okay. So that. Yeah, yeah. And then here it's like we're same s***.
Jack: We're pretending it's not even happening. We're over it.
Cristina: Yeah, but there was a time that we were like, it's much higher than yes.
Jack: And now we swung the other way and no, it's nowhere near as bad. Yeah, we started at there's nothing happening. Then we swung to world is ending. And now we're swinging back to, no, there's nothing out there.
Cristina: Yeah, it's very confusing. We live in very confusing times. And the final one is that the coronavirus is made by the New World Order or something. I mean, I guess, like, whatever. The main bad guys of this story. Whoever it is.
Jack: Yeah, whoever. The shady shadows that run everything or whatever. Like cronies. Yeah, Satan's croony. People who just do his bidding or whatever. F***.
Cristina: And work in the government.
Jack: And religion.
Cristina: And religion. And celebrities. For some reason.
Jack: Deep State or whatever.
Cristina: Yes, Yep. Yeah, all that stuff.
Jack: I mean, because politics is Deep State. Then we got the Freemasons, which are religion. And then we have the Illuminati that are celebrities.
Cristina: Yeah. Well, all these parties are working together to make the COVID disclaimer.
Jack: The Illuminati is not involved. We take no charge and pick no signs.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We have nothing to do with any of this.
Cristina: We have nothing to do with any of this.
Jack: Anyways.
Cristina: Anyways.
Jack: We are running out of time.
Cristina: That was great.
Jack: It's just depressing.
Cristina: It's depressing. As much fake news as there been about what? Why Covid? There's been. I mean, as much conspiracies as there are for Covid, there are also for the vaccine itself. And also before the vaccine was made, there was also a bunch of fake news about what you can take because there's no vaccine. Like bleach, like crazy stuff like that.
Jack: Which people actually drank as f****** morons.
Cristina: Yes, yes. So I understand why the scientists are worried about fake news.
Jack: Because it's dangerous for people who are too stupid, which are a lot of people. The problem is scientists are also promoting bullshit.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Everybody's lying. And if you pick the side, you fell for a lie.
Cristina: That's the biggest problem, though. Everyone's lying. And even if someone is telling the truth, there's just. You're getting every side of the story and it's just too much. You can't see what's the real thing. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Jack: That's the way the state of the freaking world, man.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Anyways, if you guys want other episodes of this nature. If you enjoyed this conversation.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We have actually several episodes about coronavirus conspiracies and things with that.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Is there more than one of those?
Cristina: I feel like there's at least two coronavirus conspiracies. I know of how it started. I remember one about toilet paper.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: And one about 5G.
Jack: Yeah. And there's like other stuff like apocalypse scenarios and junk like that, so you can find episodes.
Cristina: We also talked about aliens. I mean, aliens. We also talked about Artificial intelligence recently in one of your episodes about the dangers.
Jack: Yes. As a way to end the world as well. That's also something. Wow. Yeah, there's a lot of pot. We talked about the apocalypse a lot. I like that. I like that. We speculate the ending of the world. Anyways, you can find all that crap on greythoughts.info on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
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Cristina: Case the world hasn't already ended. If it has ended, then too bad.
Jack: Yeah. You're already on the other side.
Cristina: If it hasn't, then you have 100 seconds.
Jack: Yeah. So go ahead. And it's about the amount of time that one episode takes, right?
Cristina: 100 seconds.
Jack: Yeah. It's a little more.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No, it could be 100 minutes.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Look, you. You will get a couple of minutes into a minute and a half. Minute and a little less. A little more than half. Right. Minute and forty seconds.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You can hear us, like, introduce the show.
Cristina: Almost. Almost.
Jack: Fair enough.
Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. Then there's Saint Lydwina, who is the saint for ice skaters. At 15, she fell while ice skating and fractured her ribs. She was left disabled for the rest of her life, and now she's the saint of ice skaters.
Jack: So her lack of achievements in ice skating because of simple mistakes that led to tragic, violent and debilitating accidents resulted in a terrible skater becoming the saint of skaters.
Cristina: To make sure no other skater goes through that.
Jack: Is she the saint of the fear of ice skating?
Cristina: I don't know. I just know she's the saint of ice skaters. Maybe the fear of ice skating as well. Who knows?
Jack: Ledwina with Lidwina, the girl who couldn't skate?
Cristina: Yes. That's what she's known for.
Jack: And then you pray to her and she helps you skate without her knowing.
Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.in fox art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister. With social media managed by Amber Black.