Rambling 269: The Harrowing of Hell
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What was the true reason for the Crucifixion? What happened to Jesus after getting Crucified? What was his ultimate goal? The duo unpack the Harrowing of Hell and the fact that according to the Bible it seems Jesus died a sinner, but why?
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Topics DIscussed:
- The Crucifiction
- Jesus the Sinner
- The Journey to Hell
- Hidden Prison
- Retrieving the Goods
- Yaldabaoth (AKA Jehovah of Dark)
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And it's so. I mean, again, it's not like I have a lot. It's. I don't have a lot of notes. It's more that. This is extremely dense and it focuses on a situation that we've heavily overlooked and we've looked kind of straight at a million thousand times. Composed a little something here for us to look at and it's going to answer so. It's so small, but it's going to answer so many questions. Who's what? Why? Where? Who's doing what? Why are they doing it? There's so many with the smallest of things, and it doesn't necessarily tie to Hermes, but it connects to him indirectly. And also, before we even get to this, Hermes Trismegistus invents the magnum opus and the Hermetic seal, both steps of creating the philosopher's stone. There's no way Hermes Trismegistus was not working one on one with Eloi, the one who made the Stone of Adam and the Stone of Eve. There's no way. Okay, it's literally named after a dude who shows up mad later is because this guy was there way before. It's his name for the process.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So he must have been way back then. How.
Cristina: Humans are somehow special then in the story.
Jack: Well, if he is a necromancer, death is not a problem.
Cristina: Yeah, but it seems like necromancers come from humans.
Jack: Yes, yes.
Cristina: Yeah, like, that's very interesting. I don't know how he relates to anything, but it seems like that's.
Jack: Well, yeah, no, it's something weird about that. The possibility that Hermes Trismegistus is a title itself, that's another possibility. Many guys name that, but I think that's not the case. I think it is one guy. Because through the case of necromancy, we seem to consistently defy the need for. For age. And time kind of just dissolves into the background because long enough gets anywhere. The idea would be, can necromancer share this and that, would that explain something like an loi lasting long, even if not millions of years? Because as we know, we literally established it is the last name or bare minimum, some sort of title or position, and there were different people, different. But that means in this case, fair enough. Maybe he's not sharing immortality because Jehovah learned this with Azrael. Eloi didn't. Which means there were many Elois. The first discovery of immortality for someone non necromancer was Israel. That might be the actual first instance of immortality within biological beings.
Cristina: And how did they figure it out?
Jack: Science.
Cristina: The science. Okay.
Jack: Asriel. Yes. She's a geneticist.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And she solved that. But that happened in the time of Jehovah, sometime in like, 7,000 BC, so that's relatively recent.
Cristina: Do you think the unicorn horns have anything to do with that?
Jack: No.
Cristina: Or unicorns at all?
Jack: No, no, no, no.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Definitely not. But that's just definitely something for us to think about. We still got to look into who is within the title of Eloi, whether it's family members of Jehovah. Although I've seen all names after that. I've seen Jehovah, Eloi. I've seen Yahweh Eloi. I've seen Elohim, Eloi. I thought Elohim and Eloi were more close together, but no Elohim, Eloi, which means Elohim is somebody in the family or somebody who is just Eloi. The first one is just Eloi, presumably. Eloi. The first Eloi was the first Eloi, and he did a thing that made him important. And so Legend of Zelda style, every next individual assumes the name just like Zelda.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: I mean, not Zelda. Link.
Jack: Just like Link.
Cristina: Just like Link. Yeah.
Jack: So that's what I'm thinking. Anyways, as for what we're talking about today, a week ago, do you know what was a week ago?
Cristina: Do I know what was one week ago? No. Was this at Patrix Day? I don't remember.
Jack: No, no.
Cristina: That's two weeks ago.
Jack: That was way longer than what you said. It was the day Jesus died.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. Okay. Easter.
Jack: Yeah, Easter.
Cristina: And we just didn't talk about it. Did we talk about.
Jack: No, we didn't talk about Easter. I mean, we might have brushed over while talking about something else, but.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: The problem is we've messed up because Easter should have been our starting point for many, many reasons.
Cristina: Starting point for what?
Jack: Everything.
Cristina: Everything.
Jack: Everything.
Cristina: Easter is that important.
Jack: Easter has a lot. I'm just gonna spit out some sentences at certain points, and you're gonna be like, how the f***? And like, that's too black and white to not be literally what's happening. So do you know what happened on Easter?
Cristina: He came back from the dead.
Jack: Right, Right.
Cristina: That's all I gotta get. Yeah.
Jack: Okay, so he died on the crucifixion day. Then three days later he comes back. And we know that story really vividly because he came back through the Shanto gates. He met with some homies, according to the Bible, you know, he met with some people, blah, blah, blah. And then he did. But we know he kept kind of like wandering around doing things. And he died in India or whatever the h***. Not even in India. He actually died where the. There were. No, it was in India where the fairies are.
Cristina: I think it was.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So sure. All of these things Jesus did after he came to life, all you have to wonder is what did he do in those three days? Okay, so he died. Let's unpack the logic. He died and he built the Shinto gates because. What?
Cristina: Because to come back here. No, that was beforehand. He died and then he built this.
Jack: No, he built the Shinto gates because he knew he would die. Yes. Why did he build the Shinto gates? To come back from where?
Cristina: The Shadow room.
Jack: Why would he go to the Shadow Realm?
Cristina: Because of all the blood drinking.
Jack: Okay, well established.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Why was he drinking blood if he was already overpowered?
Cristina: that's a good question. I don't know. It was important somehow because of the religion. He needed people to drink his blood. So I guess he also had to.
Jack: I don't know, obviously. So that he doesn't permanently die. That's all it is. It's so that you don't permanently die. Right. You go to the Shadow Realm. He built the gate. Then he could just come back. He can't die. He established immortality. That is loop.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: You die without the adrenochrome. You just die. You die with the adrenochrome, you go to the other side. He built the gates, he can come back. The adrenochrome. Was the located immortality in his case?
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Or was it?
Cristina: Or was it. I don't know.
Jack: In the Bible. In the Bible it says that Jesus went to h*** for three days. Let's just talking about the Bible real quick. Not talking about the fact of the matter, but let's talk about the Bible. Jesus went to h*** for three days, not heaven. Christian's Messiah died and actually went to h***. It doesn't matter what logic they try to reason that one away with. He lied in the eyes of God and went to h***. He didn't kill anybody. He didn't harm. No. Which means the one thing he did must have been a lie, because everything else checked out. So he was. He was just lying the whole time? According to the Bible itself, he went to h*** after he died. Not heaven. He didn't die a martyr. He died a sinner. Ooh.
Cristina: Is that how they. But that's not how they see it.
Jack: Oh, no, because how they see it, they rationalize it. He chose to go there.
Cristina: How does that make sense? For what purpose?
Jack: Obviously, the story is bullshit.
Cristina: Yeah, but what's their purpose of him wanting to go to h***?
Jack: It's not a matter of them having a purpose for him wanting to go to h***. It's having to cover up what actually happened and having no way to do.
Cristina: It the right way. Mm.
Jack: What did he do while he was in h***?
Cristina: Talk to his father?
Jack: No, because his father isn't in h***.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: What did he do when he went to h***?
Cristina: I don't even know the story. I have no idea.
Jack: I'm gonna tell you. That's the point of this.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But I'm hoping you'd guess.
Cristina: Oh, that was my guess. And you're saying no. So he.
Jack: You know, his father's not in h*** according to the Bible, so that doesn't make sense.
Cristina: I was just his real father without the.
Jack: The things we've talked about just with the Bible, why'd he go?
Cristina: Who? The creatures.
Jack: What would Jesus do? What creatures? We're not talking about. We know. We're talking about just the Bible.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: I'm saying don't think about what we talked about. Just the Bible.
Cristina: What they say he wants.
Jack: What do you think they say that's.
Cristina: I. Honestly, I haven't. I don't know. Why would they want. Okay, let me think. I put the heavy go. He chose.
Jack: He chose.
Cristina: He chose because he wanted to know. I don't know. He was curious. Okay.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: He's curious. What happens to sinners? I don't know.
Jack: Brace yourself, because I'm going to tell you what the Bible says he went there for. But the problem is, I didn't need anything else. I looked for more.
Cristina: I.
Jack: But all it did was confirm. So then I just came back to the Bible. Because what I'm about to tell you is too cut and dry. It doesn't matter without the context. But we have so much context. The next two sentences I'm about to tell you are going to do a lot. I'll begin with the less important one, and then we'll discuss in both terms what we know and what the narrative is. Sentence number one, that's gonna shake you up and falls along what we're Saying when he went to h*** for those three days, one of the two things he did was release people he deemed righteous who were sent there in the Old Testament. Now, let's go. Hold up. Let's go back a little bit and clarify that this absolutely means Jesus and Jehovah were never on the same side on paper in the Bible. That makes no sense. Jesus went to h*** to free the people he did not agree Jehovah put there.
Cristina: Which. How. How's that possible? How do they not think the same?
Jack: Because you're not the same person, obviously. But according to the Bible, how do they. They don't. It's a bunch of cognitive dissonance. It doesn't happen. It doesn't play. Oh, no. He's both. And he change or what? No.
Cristina: How does he change? No, that doesn't make sense.
Jack: It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. It's not.
Cristina: Then he's definitely not perfect. He's so far from perfect.
Jack: Yeah, that would just be flaws. That would be infinite flaws.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He changed his mind every 10 minutes and he has no plan if he's changing his mind all the time. There can't be a perfect plan because he changes the plan every 10 seconds. You're telling me he threw some people down there and 2000 years later he's like, no, come on, I gotta take him out?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, no. Then your plan sucks.
Cristina: It makes no sense. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. You're building the plan as you go, essentially. It makes zero sense.
Cristina: He said there's a second reason.
Jack: We are going to unpack this first.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: We're not just rushing through this. We don't do that. We're gonna talk about the fact that Jesus, according to the Bible, is not Jehovah. According to the Bible, he went to h*** to free other people who Jehovah put there, but he disagrees with their presence in there. Well, that's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. And specifically Old Testament, which brings up another conflicting issue. Yaldaba is Old Testament God. No, that's Jehovah of Dark. Before we found out who he was, it was the guy from the shadow realm. Is the guy who talked to the rabbi. It is that guy.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That was Yaldabaoth. He was the Old Testament God, and.
Cristina: He'S the one putting people in h***.
Jack: He's the one who put those people. He took them to the shadow realm.
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: He took these people to the shadow realm and Jesus went and got him.
Cristina: Why did he take them to the shadow realm?
Jack: They were prisoners of his These are the people he did not like. These are the people who did things he did not approve of. These are prisoners. Jesus knew where to find out about prison, bare minimum and free people. Let's. That's the thought that should be coming to your mind. He knew exactly where to go when he died. It only took him three freaking days to get there, save them, and be like, I'm good.
Cristina: How? How?
Jack: Think of the ability to zone into some s*** everybody else has been looking for. And he did it in three f****** days.
Cristina: He's more supernatural than the shadow realm creatures.
Jack: So by miles. By miles, you found the highest thing within the these two realms. At least in three days. I am assuming he found them on the first day and it just took him three days to get back because the third day is when we saw him. So bare minimum took him like two days. And assuming he did more than just that, he might have just gotten their freedom instantly.
Cristina: Do you have any idea how many people there were that he showed up with?
Jack: No. They were unimportant. They were just prisoners of that time.
Cristina: How do people not think that's crazy? He came back from the dead with people.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Or did they go to heaven? Like, what's the story of what happened to the people he saved from h***? Did they come back to life in Earth or did they go straight to heaven?
Jack: Unclear. I didn't care gives a s***. I was more impressed about like, that's. If we had the answer to that question, what would that even mean? It'd be a bullshit lie. They went to heaven. What does that mean? Nothing. Nothing. That's useless information.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And if they were just freed out here, then. Okay, you zombies set people free.
Cristina: I don't know. That'd be strange.
Jack: Are many other jinn out here? They wouldn't be the first. They're definitely not. The last is just normal nothing. The action itself is what's weird.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Not the people. What happens to them? Who cares? Because like, who cares? It's just people. He found them in two days.
Cristina: That is pretty.
Jack: In the shadow realm. That's already described as a convoluted mirror house.
Cristina: Yes. But also, I don't know how much is it because it seems like people could easily travel it also, I don't know. It seems like if you. You just stumble upon it, you know where you're going.
Jack: Well, I guess not really enough times. It like anything else, you'll become familiar.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: How do you become familiar in two days?
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: The judge got lost.
Cristina: The judge got it was his sister who just knew he.
Jack: No, his sister didn't just know. He showed his sister.
Cristina: Oh, after he got lost?
Jack: Yeah, he got lost in there. He then started using that after he got familiar with and then he showed his sister. People find these things by accident. They get.
Cristina: So how does Jesus.
Jack: How would he. Unless it wasn't his first shot there.
Cristina: I guess not. I'm guessing because he did make the portals beforehand, he could have just been.
Jack: Dipping in and out at casual moments. But those portals don't work. Those portals are one way. So how was he getting over there?
Cristina: How did he as a necromancer?
Jack: Well, we don't actually. We're assuming he's a necromancer. And this adds to that for sure. For sure. But we don't actually know he is.
Cristina: But if he is, he could go back and forth.
Jack: Yeah, Easily. Easily, easily. And he could kind of go. He wouldn't even need to walk the shadow realm. He could live.
Cristina: Doesn't make sense because like he can live forever as a necromancer.
Jack: Exactly. And when I explained the other part to you, it's obvious that the death was important. So he couldn't actually get in there. He was legitimately struggling to get to the shadow realm.
Cristina: Then how did he figure it out?
Jack: How do you figure it out? What did he know? How? How did he know?
Cristina: How did he know? Does he have a portal?
Jack: But for a fact, even within the Bible, not even going anywhere else we can factually determine. Yes. Jesus is not in accordance with Yaldabaoth AKA Jehovah of Dark. He went and freed those things in second. He could find them. Yaldaba is hiding. Yalda is hiding. I don't know if the Elysians are hiding. Yalda is hiding.
Cristina: Why? It feels like he just wanted to make an enemy for no reason. Unless there's a reason for him doing that.
Jack: He didn't want to make an enemy. He created the entire earthrealm to watch actual Elfame consciousness find its way out of the program so that he himself could replicate. Wasn't any of those things. It was just how are they doing it? So I can see and do it.
Cristina: But why would he do it? That's just so crazy that he would just that for like how did he know where they were? Why would he do it?
Jack: Where they were? All of these things? For sure?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I think Jesus person only knew Hermes Trismegistus.
Cristina: Why do you think that?
Jack: If he's a necromancer and we can't find any other teachers and it's likely there's only one. It's Hermes. Which means if Jesus is a necromancer, he had to learn it from Hermes unless he himself made his own version of it. But we would know about that.
Cristina: But we know there's a Hermes version of Hermes in the Bible. He's a character.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay. So was he around Jesus this time? I mean, I guess he's been around all this.
Jack: No, he shows up later.
Cristina: Later.
Jack: Actual Hermes, according to actual narrative, shows up much later.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And he's mentioned as a philosopher. He's not an important person.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And actually, I don't think he shows up in the canon books of the Bible.
Cristina: Okay, whatever.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He shows up in other books.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That talk about the people around. But none of that is the point. The second thing is the most important thing here. Because the second thing, first thing gave us all the answers we needed for a million things we. We knew without proof. Now we know, like, yeah, they don't like each other. They can't. They're not the same person. This literally in words in the book that people are like, no, they are. No, the book told you they're not.
Cristina: Yeah, obviously.
Jack: Like, the book is literally telling you there's three guys here. That big guy, the new big guy, that big guy, the old big guy, and this guy who you're calling both of those guys, and he apparently doesn't agree with s***. Either of them do agree with anything they've ever done. Crazy. None of that matters. All of that, as dense and rich in information as that is matters next to the next sentence, because the next sentence is an oh, is everybody horrified? Situation.
Cristina: Is what?
Jack: Everybody's horrified.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They're scared of Jesus. I know for a fact they're scared to Jesus.
Cristina: Who are they?
Jack: Everybody.
Cristina: Everybody.
Jack: Everybody. You were right. Everybody's hiding from Jesus. Everybody's. There's nobody not hiding from Jesus because there's a lot of people fighting to make a lot of different powers. You know what this guy went did when he went to h***? His second objective was rescue these other people. That was the second objective. He was just there. That was day two. I know I was exaggerating. I'm fully aware. He saved the first goal and did it in the first day, maybe in like two hours. He went down there, somehow found Yaldabaoth's f****** bowser castle or some s*** down there. I don't f****** know. And then he got to the guy's prison, not only just freed all these individuals, the main quest was to Acquire Adam and Eve who were in h***, AKA the shadow realm that Yaldabao somehow acquired. What?
Cristina: But don't they.
Jack: In the Bible it literally says Jesus went to h*** to save Adam and Eve and the righteous from the Old Testament. He instantaneously acquired them too. And then was like I'm here.
Cristina: How does that make sense? Everything. He has Adam and Eve.
Jack: He has Adam and Eve.
Cristina: But we thought those other people had.
Jack: What the Alicians had Adam and Eve.
Cristina: I guess they had.
Jack: They had. Now let me reiterate that Jesus easily found Yaldabaoth's prison, freed a bunch of people and acquired Adam and Eve wherever Yaldabaoth hid them. Meaning we know Yaldabaoth had his own stone as well. The Bible tells us about Adam and Eve because the Bible only knows knows about Adam and Eve. But Jesus was there. Why would he only take Adam and Eve?
Cristina: That's how they put it.
Jack: That's how they put it.
Cristina: They don't know anything else.
Jack: We know he has a lot more. We know he has a lot more and not really a lot more, but it's powerful and it's arguably the first one.
Cristina: How. How. How did it end up. How did they end up there?
Jack: How did they end up there? So presumably because just with this we have a lot of story given to us at some point. Yaldabaoth actually got it from the Elysians and we have not uncovered that story. There must have been a battle or an invasion or something. And Yaldabaoth acquired the. The philosopher stones that the Alicians had. Adam and Eve are both in or were in possession of Yaldabaoth. Somehow he got them. I have no idea how. We've not seen a crumb of this story until right now.
Cristina: Yeah, I mean they probably. He didn't probably have to fight them if he made them to make that in the first place. Right.
Jack: Like his might be stronger than he is. So how do you just take it from them?
Cristina: Maybe it was a pact between him and the first guy. I forgot his name.
Jack: Loi.
Cristina: Loi. There you go. Like come on.
Jack: No, he dipped on them.
Cristina: That's what they. That's the only thing we know. We don't know if there was some.
Jack: Then you'd be adding complete uncon. Like things. We have nothing to back.
Cristina: We don't have no epic battle happening either. Over.
Jack: Well, those are all these. I'm just spitballing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: These are all theories. Yes, but it was sounding like you were. No, this is definitely the case. But no, if it's a Theory perfectly fine. Because who knows? Who knows what the possibility is? It's. The problem is that there is no ability to tell. Again, we have. We don't see a battle. I don't know where that is. And if it is, and we'll stumble upon it in the future. We haven't. Yeah, we don't know. We didn't see him, like, going off anybody. We don't know that they handed it to him. We just. All we get is Jesus stealing it from him suddenly. Like, what? Not even from them? From him.
Cristina: From him.
Jack: It's like, whoa, I didn't even know he had it.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: I thought he ran away. He's just chilling with it.
Cristina: He's just chilling with it. How's that possible?
Jack: Or he did leave, and you can't leave with it because it's part of the program. If you're leaving the program, how would.
Cristina: You take it out? Yeah, I guess you wouldn't take it with you. It's. It's just to help him get out. So. Yeah, it may have been easier for him to steal them. But then why didn't the other.
Jack: Why didn't anybody else know? He had to be there, bro. Or he could detect it in a way they can't.
Cristina: Or whoever is protecting it should still, like. Even though he left, it was probably still so protected that no one else tried.
Jack: And then Jesus effortlessly just cruised in there in like 15 minutes after dying and just got it.
Cristina: Yeah, well, there's something else happening with him. We don't know.
Jack: Yeah, no, there's a lot going on. But tell me this isn't like a bomb drop. This is crazy.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: How the h*** did we just, within one story, find out that this moved two hands?
Cristina: This makes a lot of sense, I guess.
Jack: It makes so much sense to a lot of things. Like the Naoa Shinto game. Makes absolute sense. Assuming you couldn't get there for whatever reason you orchestrated, planned and executed your entire death to get there, steal that s*** and come back.
Cristina: But how did he know?
Jack: Well, he was talking a bunch of blasphemous s***. Just walk around. If there is no if. Everything is censorship. You just go outside and start screaming anti government s***. Then they killed him.
Cristina: No, I mean how did he know where it was?
Jack: Oh, I have no idea.
Cristina: That huge thing.
Jack: That's a f****** problem. Yeah.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: How did he just know? He must have known so long before beginning the plan.
Cristina: Yeah, actually think he does whatever thing that affected us. Us. Not us, but everyone. When you know, he was. You think he control it he like kind of like. What's his name? The wizard.
Jack: What wizard?
Cristina: From what I know from crap. I can't. Author King Arthur.
Jack: Merlin.
Cristina: Yes. He had that special power of being able to time. To mess with time or something. No, write his history.
Jack: He slows down time.
Cristina: He slows down time. I thought he like. I thought he like affected Arthur's future or something. Didn't he have to write the story and then the story would happen or something?
Jack: No. He made Arthur easy to manipulate and then fed society a story that would eventually reach his ears. Which is all that the lady of the lady took advantage of and twisted the story even more in her favor.
Cristina: Okay, okay. Well anyway, because maybe Jesus can dream about that stuff though he can see into things that we wouldn't understand. Like Santa Claus seeing who's good or who's been good or whatever.
Jack: That is fascinating point. That is a really, really, really, really good observation, Santa. You don't have to call him Santa. St. Nicholas.
Cristina: Whatever.
Jack: St. Nicholas does have an ability to either stop time and live from his perspective years and years and years and see everybody within, to us feels like no time has passed. Or he actively has an ability to see all things simultaneously. Which presumably is a little necromancy trick.
Cristina: Yes, yes. But then that makes Jesus a necromancer.
Jack: He would be born as a necromancer.
Cristina: Yeah, he wouldn't even need a teacher. Why?
Jack: Because necromance, you're not. It's not a race, it's. It's a discipline.
Cristina: Yes. And also they could. They don't need to die. They all. No, wait, they do die. They die.
Jack: And if he was a necromancer, he wouldn't need to. He wouldn't need anything to get into the shadow realm. His skills could get him there. He's not a necromancer. That's the only. All these things are pointing at. He's not a necromancer. So we have some other problem. He actually most likely knew Hermes and is still not a f****** necromancer and is still the next thing over. A necromancer.
Cristina: He's so similar. It's something.
Jack: We got three necromancers and one Jesus. There are less Jesus, whatever the h*** he is.
Cristina: How's he not a necromancer? I feel like everything makes him seem like one.
Jack: Him needing to die to enter the shadow realm immediately violates that.
Cristina: But they all needed to die to start living forever, I guess. They had human lives, they became necromancers. They died. Or some other like we don't know the steps.
Jack: Fair, fair, fair, fair. Maybe it was a two birds with one stone situation. Maybe I can easily get into the shadow realm, but I haven't achieved my immortality yet. So when I die because they crucify me, two birds, one stone. I'll be where I'm going anyways.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And I'll finally achieve the last step of this metamorphosis.
Cristina: I think that sounds right. That could definitely be a necromancer.
Jack: It could have been the last step towards becoming a necromancer for sure. Because we follow the stories after he returns. And now we're talking about some trippy as balls s*** dude showing up in furnaces and just hanging out with guys. People seeing his face in the clouds, him just rolling up in impossible locations. You're on a boat, he just walked out of nowhere.
Cristina: Stories from when he was alive.
Jack: No, people saw visions of him forever.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: Yeah, most of the stories are quoted. Yes. Oh, but there's a bunch of stories of him being seen afterwards that's so crazy. Which could fall in line with being a necromancer. So he's a necromancer on top of whatever the h*** he was to begin with. He's abusing Elysian blood. Yes, while abusing human blood.
Cristina: Because he's also have humans now. Right.
Jack: Also, I think in this discussion we have come to the answer for why a Nephilim is illegal. And it's because a human is the only person who can become a necromancer.
Cristina: And because he's part human.
Jack: Oh, yes. His human part is the necromancer part. And Elysians cannot be a necromancer. None of their technology can so much as scratch the overpowered nature of a necromancer.
Cristina: He's. Oh my gosh, he's so overpowered. And it's because he's an ephem, but also necromancer.
Jack: Oh my gosh, He's a necromancer.
Cristina: Nephilim, he's everything they fear. If they fear things, this has to be the thing.
Jack: Weirdly enough, according to the Holy Bible, by definition at this point, he's the Antichrist. Right? He's all of the characteristics of all of the things, which is the beast.
Cristina: He is the.
Jack: He's literally the beast. The Bible both tells us the light bringer, Lucifer and the bearer of light, Jesus, are different people, but they give us the same f****** descriptor.
Cristina: Kidding me? I don't know. They're not very bright about it. Okay, I don't Know, they're not. They're not thinking about it. It's written by a million of different people. Like no one's connecting the dots or they're doing the really. I don't know. I wouldn't say. The best that they can.
Jack: It was a legitimate huge effort to make Jesus look right and make Lucifer look bad. And you have to. There's too much evidence of the events that you. None of the events you're claiming happened. We can prove all the events. You're like, put it. You gotta think of it differently. All of those events have a record. So they're like, no, don't look at it like that. Look at it our way. It's like. But your way is made up. I could just read what happened. I could just. Look, somebody recorded it. And what you say, nobody agrees on, but records agree with each other. And if we just take the Bible's context and then bounce it off of those very things, Jesus might must either be the bad guy or the devil.
Cristina: Okay, but if he's the Antichrist, that's really strange. The Christ is the Antichrist. What does that even mean?
Jack: There was never a Christ.
Cristina: There was never a Christ.
Jack: There's no such thing as an Antichrist. There is only Christ. The evil.
Cristina: Oh, nice.
Jack: The illusion. What do they say? The best trick the devil ever performed is convincing you he doesn't exist. We're talking. We're not talking about the Devil anymore. Is that quote of a wise man once told me, don't squander it. I'm wise man. Something like that. Stupid comment is the same idea here with Jesus.
Cristina: That is crazy. That's crazy.
Jack: The same way that Lucifer's greatest trick was convincing you he didn't exist according to the Bible. Also. Also what? A phrase made up to convince you that, well, you finding no proof of Lucifer is more proof of his existence.
Cristina: Just like God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: And whatever you find about Jesus. No, Lucifer told you because the truth is in the book, regardless of what. So intentional. So intentional. No, everything is a lie. If somebody was there, they saw it for a sign, they recorded it. Lie. What's in the Bible is true. It's like. No, no, no. The Bible is people who wrote it right from the time, eyewitnesses. That's why it's true. Yeah, well, this guy was from the society that invented at that time, record keeping. And he says that didn't happen. So this guy who had no stake in it is lying, obviously. And that guy who has all the stake in it is totally telling the truth clearly, clearly, clearly, clearly Only makes sense.
Cristina: He's not profiting off of all of us lies. These lies. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay, so, okay, that's what he did in those three days.
Jack: That's what he did in three days. He went to h***, got Adam and Eve freed a bunch of Old Testament prisoners, showed up in Japan, continued his life.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: The Bible tells us this.
Cristina: I thought. But in the. The story, I guess. Doesn't it end with him going to heaven or. No, in. Yeah, they see him float up.
Jack: Oh, biblically speaking, yes. He sees everybody and then he ascend.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay, but that sounds like a lie. And records tell us otherwise.
Cristina: Okay, that is part of the story.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we can follow him until he dies of old age in India. So, like, come on, please. There's records out there of this guy and literally traceable lines. You could just follow every step he took. Because he traveled primarily through places where people kept records. It. It was invented and they were just keeping records. And he was there.
Cristina: And he's not dead de. Because he can live forever. Like, that was when he really decided to not be in the picture of anyone's lives dead.
Jack: Because he was Biblically, when he transcends.
Cristina: No, when he's that guy in India.
Jack: When he's that guy in India and he dies, that just means he left the program. Oh, that's what death would be, is leaving the program for these individuals. That seems to be especially if you're hanging out with individuals from Elfame who are from outside the program.
Cristina: Then did they end up getting Adam and Eve after that? Because, like, what happens to Adam and Eve after he leaves the program?
Jack: Well, theoretically, the same way, like Yaldabaoth, that we assume that if he did get out, he can still have access to it because he himself is a program. So there's no way he'd fully 100% remove himself. It's impossible. So it's possible he can still use it, but he doesn't directly connect with us. It's possible that now, after the transcendent moment from India, he actually closer embodies the God that people were picturing and wrong about the whole way there, where he kind of. Yeah, he could tamper with it. As some sort of super elite AI, he's likely just capable of manipulating everything from the outside.
Cristina: that's pretty cool. I guess. So he probably still has Adam and Eve.
Jack: I don't. I don't know. I don't know. What would be the use if you could control everything.
Cristina: I Don't know.
Jack: But maybe they were necessary to. Or maybe not. Maybe they're not necessary to escape. Maybe they were just a byproduct of experimentation and allows for immense power. You don't need to take them out while you're here. They're useful.
Cristina: So many questions. Like, why would he need them? That's a good question though too. Like, did he make something else too?
Jack: Did he make something else?
Cristina: Because everyone seemed to. That's exactly what they did. They didn't just take them. Like even what's her name?
Jack: Lilith.
Cristina: Lilith did something with them. Like no one doesn't do something with them.
Jack: Yeah. Now as you're talking about, sounds almost like you're describing the unicorn, the alicorn. Like everybody's drawn to it.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: And everybody has to use it when they get to it.
Cristina: Yeah. It's just like.
Jack: Like how could you not Literally couldn't control herself.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: She's drawn to it. Like. Oh no. Hypnotized by it.
Cristina: Yes. For science sakes.
Jack: For science sake.
Cristina: And if he's the same as them, driven with. From science. Maybe. Question mark. I don't know.
Jack: Interesting theory. People use. Not even use. Being around the philosopher son is weirdly really. Really, really, really. When we were talking about adrenochrome, we were talking about. Oh yeah, its effects and behaviors feel similar to the effects and things that could be done with alicorn teas and whatnot. But we never thought about. Because we've only recently come across the philosopher's stone and really deep dived into that. But we really haven't unpacked the fact that the philosopher's stone is more identical to alicorn than pure adrenochrome. It's a solidified version of adrenochrome. Quite a lot of people involved in the making. Tragically, it has immense kind of infinite power. And before even using the power, people are addicted to it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Being in its presence the same way.
Cristina: They would with adrenochrome, except I guess for other necromancers. Like they didn't use their. They didn't use their stones. So it's possible Jesus didn't use his stones.
Jack: How do you know they didn't use their stones?
Cristina: You think Santa made some things?
Jack: He doesn't need to make things with it. That's just what we know. They were used for a function of them.
Cristina: It just seems like that's what they all try to do. I don't know. Maybe they don't all try to make life.
Jack: Yalda used it to Kill fairies?
Cristina: Yes. Wasn't he also making. What's that thing, that creature, the. The snake creature thing?
Jack: Naga.
Cristina: Naga. He wasn't using the stone for that.
Jack: No.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: He made an artificial Naga osteomorphous himself.
Cristina: Oh, okay, so he was not.
Jack: Yeah, the philosopher's stone were only used for murder in his case. Until he apparently got a hold of Adam and Eve, which I don't know when the h*** that happened.
Cristina: And what he did with that.
Jack: Yeah, we have no idea what he did with that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But at least we know it happened and now we know what to be looking for, you know?
Cristina: Yes, he only. He didn't use it to make life. So Jesus probably didn't need it to make life.
Jack: Many other things you could do with it. Infinite power. Do whatever you want. Everybody likes to play God, so they make life. Yes, but infinite power, way more you can do.
Cristina: I'm just not creative enough. I don't know. What's the other possibilities besides birth and death? It looks like we've seen like what is Sansa or St. Nick doing with his stone?
Jack: And how many stones are there, man? We have Yaldas, we have Adam and Eve and the theoretical third stone of flesh that was probably used in the making of Jesus.
Cristina: I don't know if every necromancer has.
Jack: A stone and if every necromance. Yo, now. Oh my God, it gets dark because we gotta think like. Okay, all right, so definitely. Based on the information we have. Definitely, definitely. St. Nick's staff and St. Patrick's necklace or and Merlin's necklace are in fact philosopher stones, right? Totally. Okay. This guy who gives children gifts has a philosopher's stone. To clarify, the amount of death just casually on this guy is absurd. If you have a philosopher's stone, that's the oh, f*** part of it. Like, oh yeah, Santa, St. Nick. Oh, he's so generous. Oh, but not if you're mean. It's like, no, don't worry, he's. If he wanted to deal with you, it would be effortless because simply of how apathetic he has to be to it.
Cristina: It's part of the becoming a necromancer, I guess. Because I think you have. You have to become one to be able to make one. Anyway.
Jack: Oh yeah, you're right.
Cristina: So I think it's part of that journey of becoming.
Jack: To becoming a philosopher. Maybe the initiation is make a philosopher's stone.
Cristina: Yes. What did he kill for that? I don't know.
Jack: If the initiation is make a philosopher.
Cristina: My guess is he killed things in the shadow realm, but who knows? Only because we don't know anything about him and death. But we know he hangs out with fairies. Or not fairies, elves.
Jack: Dude, who the f*** is Hermes Trismeguess.
Cristina: Really, really, really supposed to tell me?
Jack: No, like, I don't know, man, there's something weird. I don't know what, there's something off about what you just told me and it made something click in my head and it's like, nah man, there's something weird here. Because this guy. Yeah, it kind of. When you really look at it, it's even in parts. You gotta find your teacher to get the rest of it. So yeah, part of the process is you start and he will teach you how to finish so that he can witness the finish of the product and say, now you're necromancer.
Cristina: Right?
Jack: Okay, great, bro. There's a process that means there must be. Holy s***. There must be global events we can track that would fit every single stone. Realistically, things that would seem like extinction. Size level events. We're talking about overpowered f****** stones. True extinction of entire millions of people in single blinks.
Cristina: See.
Jack: So yeah, it's absurd.
Cristina: That is. It has to be happening, right? It had to happen.
Jack: It has to be trackable. That's.
Cristina: It has to.
Jack: Whether it happened. If it did, it has to be trackable.
Cristina: Would his be the first story is Jesus is the first. I don't understand though. Who is first in this?
Jack: I have a f****** theory.
Cristina: What's the theory?
Jack: A pretty strong theory too. I would argue that one stone was made when a meteor f****** hit the planet.
Cristina: Hermes probably stumbled upon it or one of them, I guess.
Jack: No, I would argue the story of the meteor is bullshit and other things happened.
Cristina: Oh, you don't think the.
Jack: Okay, I would argue that there is a crater somewhere and that we call it a meteor impact. That's what I will say happened. Yeah, there's definitely a hole somewhere where something big and maybe a lot of people could fit. Yeah, I think that was just a stone. Yeah, because I think the flood was another one. I think the Bible tells us how.
Cristina: Adam and Eve were made.
Jack: No. Yes, but who cares where all the which how many stones there are. The Bible tells us literally how many stones there are based on world altering events.
Cristina: We don't think those were one of those world altering events were Adam and Eve.
Jack: They were the product of a world altering event. Yeah, but there is the alleged meteor. There is the flood. There was literally an instance when people were told cover your door with f****** blood. Or I'm coming for your firstborn. And then he did.
Cristina: Yes. Yes, he did. That's a beautiful story. Oh, my gosh.
Jack: Obviously there's nothing else that could be.
Cristina: That is creating a stone. Yeah.
Jack: That is creating a stone.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: All in one night. Huh? Huh?
Cristina: The whole city that got destroyed.
Jack: Oh, my God. Both cities. Sodom and Gomorrah. Oh, my God. Dude. Dude, that's the Red Eyed Village, isn't it?
Cristina: Red Eyed Village.
Jack: Yeah, dude, they're Alabastians.
Cristina: Oh, okay. What?
Jack: Dude, we really. Oh, dude. Oh. Context matters. So hard. Should just be once we know how to look for it.
Cristina: They're everywhere.
Jack: Everywhere now. Holy crap. Dude. Dude, those two places were like, done done. They were just wiped in that night through millions of people in the Bible. Blatantly, like. Yeah, them.
Cristina: Yes. So how many stones?
Jack: Oh, no, we're looking just based on the Bible alone and things outside of the Bible which are like three or four that we can put into frame. We're looking at like 30 stones.
Cristina: That's too many stones.
Jack: But there's a lot of weak stones.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: But there's also like colossal f******. Like whatever happened that night with the firstborn, that wasn't a big overpowered stone. Whatever the f*** happened in Sodom and Gomorrah, that's a f****** crazy stone. But those stones don't f****** with the flood. Do you see? We got. There's some tear.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Of like whack. And we know this because the stone of Adam is whack next to the stone of Eve. We know this. We know this for a fact. There's grades. And we assume that the third undefined stone of flesh is probably magnitudes greater.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Than Eve.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: So there's more refined ways to make them better with less trouble. And there is more life that can go into them, which seems to work consistently. The further back in time we go. The further back in time we go, the more people who have to die because the process gets better and less life in order to make it equally strong. Like technology. Again, better.
Cristina: Yes. So how. Yeah.
Jack: To the point where we know elites now do everything in their power just to scare people. Are they making stones when they're desperate? They topple a tower. They topple a tower directly over a completely planned network of trains and subways, all of which could easily be used to extract anything you would need to from collapsing, let's say the World Trade Center.
Cristina: Okay. So.
Jack: So we can still see potential stones being made.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And if the process improves and any life loss that Day could potentially make something overpowered the way you would have needed millions in the past if the process hundreds of thousands of years refined. That's interesting.
Cristina: Interesting. Yeah. So that means there are. There are there.
Jack: Without the Bible, there must be an absurd amount.
Cristina: But that's so crazy because there's not that many. Necromancer. That's so weird. That's the rarest then.
Jack: Yeah. Then the problem is then there aren't many stones.
Cristina: We.
Jack: There are many necromancers. Not really. There's. Maybe.
Cristina: I'm guessing the newer stones don't. Aren't.
Jack: They're fake.
Cristina: Yeah, they're like.
Jack: We actually know about this. If we look at a good example that uses the concept of philosopher stones. Full metal alchemist.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's real stones and there's fake stones.
Cristina: There's. Wait. Yeah, there's fake stones everywhere. People just using fake stones. Yeah.
Jack: And the fake stones probably still have the side effects of adrenochrome.
Cristina: And there were still being people, I think being killed to make those fake stones. Just not the amount of people you need, which would be a city's worth of people.
Jack: So in any case, the tiers aren't on quality. The tears are. Because you need a massive event. You can't really improve how you do it. There's only one way to do it. Yeah, but there's like five guys who can and they already have theirs.
Cristina: What does Santa do? I mean, like, I don't understand this man that everyone loves, I guess. But then I guess they love Jesus too. And obviously, yeah, there's something horribly wrong there.
Jack: There's something awful going on there.
Cristina: So is there something.
Jack: Also St Patrick super loved as well also apparently.
Cristina: But we know he was involved with mad murder. I knew he went to island to murder.
Jack: Yeah, he just offed all the shadow people and all of the elf kiss.
Cristina: Them is not a question.
Jack: Yeah, neither is Santa's. To be real, dude. The whole earth overnight. You got an op. F****** stone, bro.
Cristina: But how did he like, at least we can figure how he made it. What lives he took to make it.
Jack: Oh, you're seeing St. Patrick use this? He made the stone in Ireland.
Cristina: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Jack: That doesn't make any sense.
Cristina: Death.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no. This already doesn't make sense. Because they went to him for help.
Cristina: To get rid of.
Jack: Yes. Meaning he already could. He didn't go there and figure it out.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: He had was the last resort. Meaning they know. Oh no. He could f****** do it. The Elysians themselves are like, we can't handle this. He could f****** do it. There were fairies there and they were like, that place. Send St. Patrick. He's got it.
Cristina: Okay. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah. If it wasn't that he went there under orders.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If he just wandered, then did a bunch of crazy. Oh, my God, I got a stone. That's different. But they were like, go in and solve it for us, please.
Cristina: So he had to have had the stone. Where did it come from?
Jack: Where did it come from?
Cristina: He.
Jack: He did not struggle, bro. And he immediately just turned Jehovah into his. Effortlessly. In the Bible, like, come on.
Cristina: That must not have been the first island. He did that, too.
Jack: He must have a reputation for this, because they were like, he can do it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Even if it's not on record. They knew, and the records say he knew.
Cristina: Yeah. But they didn't want to show that he just. What?
Jack: Wasn't relevant. It wasn't relevant to the story of what he was doing. Yeah, but they knew he knew, and he definitely knew he could. So How? How? What the f***?
Cristina: But still, it's not a question because, like, he killed mad. He killed mad people.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: You know, he's a killer on record.
Jack: Mad murder. Jesus on record. Mad murder.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Santa is an interesting one because he is very, very sneaky.
Cristina: Who's he murdering?
Jack: Yet he still has a stone and arguably one more. Overpowered in the same pattern.
Cristina: He does mad murder, too. And we just don't know about it because he's so secretive. Like, if he were killing off one person here and there every time he's delivering.
Jack: How would you know a stone like that? You can't. You need the sum.
Cristina: That's all these.
Jack: I'm telling you, these must be events of old.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And they don't need anymore. They can live forever. I think. I think that's really the case. I think these are just situations where we probably have actual events we can point at. And if we can look at it hard enough, maybe we can connect the vents to the people.
Cristina: Okay. Because. Yeah. Like, I don't know if anything happened around his time, but it has to. Something has had to happen.
Jack: The issue you're facing here is assuming that the time in which his narratives are told are, quote, his time, unquote.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's when he was okay being known.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay. Because he was probably around before that.
Jack: To be a necromancer. Chances are you did a lot of being unknown.
Cristina: Yes. All right. Okay.
Jack: Same goes for Patrick. Where he starts is Kind of hard handed, bro. You just, you just roll up and you're like, God, suck my d***, b****. And he's like, okay, all these people.
Cristina: Have stories before we got to meet them.
Jack: They got history with these individuals. They know them on a firsthand.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: In a way that we don't. And they were date to the point that these individuals were embarrassed about writing it themselves.
Cristina: Yeah, there's something going on. Whoa.
Jack: So definitely necromancers over everything else as of now and then Jesus over necromancer. Super mega, ultra Elysian necromancer with every stone. Or at least the great original stones.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: D***, bro.
Cristina: He's kind of Adam and Eve. That's crazy.
Jack: And the stone of dark and potentially the stone of flesh, if Yalda had that too, which we don't know. We actually have no idea if that's even real. That's a theoretical stone. But we know Adam and Eve. That's on text and no. Well that's a f****** lie. It's on text from other people way down the line them. And that moment isn't on text. It's passed down stories that are on text. And the stone of shadow is on text. That all that we have. We don't know about the third earth stone, but like the existence of Jesus in the process that led to everything else suggests this was necessary. So like, so there must be a fourth stone. Yeah, that might be the only stone that these people still have. No, they needed all three stones to make them. Dude, after the creation of Jesus, something happened. And maybe we're, we're thinking they're avoiding the place because of the visions of Jesus and maybe that has something to do with it. But now that we know somehow Yalda got a hold of the stones, something happened in that same time.
Cristina: Okay, okay, here's another idea. Okay, we're saying he went to Shadaram because they're using the words h*** to describe the place, but we have no idea because that's Jesus telling them where he went. What if Jesus did actually go home?
Jack: Go home where?
Cristina: He went to.
Jack: Iran?
Cristina: No, where the sea people hang out, where they keep the stone. Maybe that's where he got the stones.
Jack: That doesn't make any sense. And what was the point of them running away if he could so easily do that?
Cristina: Well, he took forever to get there. Like, I don't know.
Jack: No, that's not checking out. That, that doesn't hold. Something must have happened at that moment. And again, based on your logic, this does not make sense. He went to the Shadow Realm to quiet based. I guess that's. I don't even know if he said that. It's the narrative as he went to h***. I don't know if he told anybody he went to h***. Yeah, but he went to h***, got Adam and Eve and whatnot. This situation would suggest that Yalda got to the Alicians first. So even if Jesus didn't go to H***, he went and retrieved nothing. He would have needed to go to h*** to get Adam and Eve, because.
Cristina: We know that he took Adam and Eve.
Jack: The Bible tells us they went to h***.
Cristina: No, but why do we think. How did what's his name, Yadabel, take the stones?
Jack: We don't know that that's what we would have to look for. But the fact of the matter is, what we found is that Jesus went there and got Adam and Eve. Keep in mind the stories of the Bible are to be taken as true, but warped. So he went down there to free these good people and you. They were sent there unjustly. In reality, he went down there to free a bunch of, I guess, war criminals and steal some s***.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now your suggestion would be that he went all the way to Elfame, not to Alfame, to Elysium. Yeah, but if he went to Elysium and he gets Adam and Eve, who the f*** are these criminals?
Cristina: Nephilims.
Jack: No, because what the f*** is Nephilim? How are you trapping a Nephilim in the shadow realm?
Cristina: In the shadow realm? No, if he went to.
Jack: Oh, he went.
Cristina: Wait, wait, why would they have.
Jack: Yeah, okay, so they. The. The Elysian. Yeah, you're totally right. So they're in Elysium and the Elysians.
Cristina: Then have Nephilim imprisoned because they plan to murder them. Because isn't that what they do?
Jack: No. No, they don't. I don't know why you think they do. They. It's illegal to make them.
Cristina: It's illegal. But don't they go hunting for them or just the people? Because they imprison someone that was important, that was making Nephilims. But they don't care about them.
Jack: He wasn't going around making a bunch of Nephilims. He broke a law.
Cristina: Which was making Nephilims.
Jack: Yeah, but also. Maybe if he shot somebody, he'd also still go to jail.
Cristina: But how do we know that Nephilims don't go to jail? I don't know.
Jack: For what? For being born, I guess. Racism could happen. Yes, I guess if it did happen.
Cristina: He wouldn't be there to save them.
Jack: Sure but also, they're Nephilim. How exactly are they being held?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: They got both sides required to s*** on an elation. How exactly is like, then Jesus would not be a problem. By the time he arrives, you can just get a bunch of Nephilim together and just prison them. Jesus isn't a problem to you. It doesn't matter how strong he rolls up. You could just stop Nephilim, bro.
Cristina: But he's not the same.
Jack: No, it doesn't matter. Let's reiterate how f****** overpowered. Nephilim by default, is just being this hybrid f****** thing that could use all the tech and has access to all bangles and people, and they're favored by the people of Elfame. There's no way that you caught these people and Jesus is the guy who then frees them. There's no way. If you caught them, Jesus shows up, you're like, finally, I've been waiting for you. We set this trap for you. Now we got you.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: This is the only way that would play out. You caught a bunch. Enough. Get the out of here.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: No, that wouldn't work out. That's nuts. But I'm concerned about whatever the Hermes is. Manny's definitely. That's crazy. Like, what the h*** did he. How did he come up with this? But Yalda did it first. I was thinking about this, like, earlier, maybe halfway through this episode when we were talking. I'm like. I didn't voice it, but I was thinking, like, is Hermes. Yalda's, like, human form. He's just trying to. Just disappears. And then this dude apparently helps Loi come up with a stone. That. Bro. Come on. There's something. I bet Hermes knows Yalda somehow. I bet that's how he learned.
Cristina: He learned it through.
Jack: Maybe not through Yalda, but he not taught, but learned from Yalda. Okay, maybe spying on him. Maybe Yalda got notes or something. I don't know.
Cristina: Well, notes is possible. No. No, it's not. I feel like there's a story where they might not. No, they don't trust writing or something.
Jack: Oh, s***. Yeah.
Cristina: I remember that Jesus invented writing so that they would.
Jack: So that they wouldn't rely on the technology. That way they could pass information secretly.
Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty crazy and interesting.
Jack: Which is funny, because it suggests that paper is the future technology, not the electronics. Right. Because it was a way to do better than the electronics.
Cristina: Yeah, the electronics is spying on us. Why depend on it?
Jack: Obviously, until people are spying on you and you're like, can't get away. So the base, weirdly enough. Weirdly enough, based on this, these texts and s***, they were just dealing with an a****** government who is spying on their cell phones.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: They just had Facebook. That's what's happening. And he was like, f*** Facebook. I'm gonna just notebook it. Cuz Facebook is in my phone and it's looking at everything. And I just keep getting ads on Amazon about some s*** I talked about. And like, I don't want that. So I'm gonna just send Mike a piece of paper instead and then I'll stop getting these f****** Amazon ads. That's Jesus summed up.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: He's like, f*** these ads writing. Yeah, it's a world of getting spammed by ads. It seems to have happened even back then. I mean, let's be real. Mary got pregnant with Jesus. The Elysians literally moved away to avoid Jesus ads. Yeah, they literally moved. They left the continent to get away from Jesus ads. Because you're getting them without ever subscribing to s***. Yes, Just ads for free here. F****** ads. You didn't even get anything new. There's no service, just ads. It's your life as it was before the ads. Plus f****** ads. Which I swear is gonna happen at some point. Everybody's gonna need neuralink to walk into a store.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Because it's not gonna open the doors for you because you're not a customer without a neural link. And then after everybody has neural link, you can't get away from the f****** ads. They're just gonna market s*** to you all day.
Cristina: You're gonna lose our mind. Yeah.
Jack: You're gonna be walking down the street and just an ad's gonna show up in front of your face and you're gonna want to get rid of it. But how?
Cristina: You gotta pay like an extra 15 bucks a month or whatever to just.
Jack: Have a normal f****** life. Anyways, that is where we are, guys.
Cristina: Happy Easter.
Jack: Yeah. Happy.
Cristina: Even though it's like late, but whatever.
Jack: So. Yeah, a week late. I mean, after a** so crazy.
Cristina: Well, after you listen to this. Save this episode for next year.
Jack: Yeah. And listen to it on Easter day. So you can keep in mind that Jesus not only went to h***, but he didn't like what Jehovah had done beforehand. And that if you go a couple of chapters before that, you'll find out that New Testament Jehovah is also on a pretty fu. With Jesus basis. So you can find a lot of people don't like Jesus in the Bible. You do. You love Jesus and you believe Jesus is great. But then the people who you also love, who aren't Jesus, think Jesus sucks. So. And Jesus also went to h*** and he told you to pretend to drink blood and he told you to pretend to eat flesh and he came back to life, technically making him either a vampire vampire or a zombie. And the blood fascination leans heavily towards vampire and the clarity of mind as well. So you're worshiping some sort of a demon.
Cristina: See.
Jack: Anyways, this has been Rambling Podcast. You guys can contact us, send us some messages to talk about this on our socials. That's that just convo pot on Tick Tock, Instagram, Facebook and more and other stuff. Yeah.
Cristina: Remember to subscribe and rate and read view the show.
Jack: Yes. And word of mouth tell everybody that Jesus is probably the devil.
Cristina: Yes, this has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye.
Cristina: Jesus is the devil.
Jack: Sam.
Cristina: Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts, info, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.
