Rambling 115: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 2

Just Conversation, Politics, Election Fraud, New Year, Celebbration, Coronavirus, Aliens

Finishing our review of the slowest apocalypse ever, 2020.

The duo wrap up their studies of the ancient times of 2020. The good, the bad and the ugly are all wrapped up with a neat bow. As they do so, they remember the days before aliens ruled the world and days before the Mars Space station was a casual hangout for teens. Often referred to as “the good old days.”

Rambling 115: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 2

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  • Police Brutality
  • Police Reform
  • Lebanon Explosion
  • Unhealthy Americans
  • California Wildfires
  • Stronger Covid
  • Election Fraud
  • Aliens

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

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Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody. And as always, you pick up the first sharp object by you, and you walk casually towards them. Make sure they see you and the sharp object. And the sharp object. And mumble something to yourself. It doesn't have to be coherent. It just has to under your breath. Make sure they hear you mumbling on your way over, but they can't tell what it is you're saying. Anything. Say the ABCs to yourself. It's fine. On your way over to them. And when you finally get to them, you say, us two, we're gonna f****** listen to the Just Conversation podcast. I promise you, they won't say no.

Cristina: Are they trying to threaten this person or no? Is it supposed to look like they're threatening them without actually threatening them?

Jack: They're alluding to danger, although they're never saying there's danger.

Cristina: Yes. That's very Dennis. Dennis. That's very Dennis.

Jack: Yeah. Anyways, talking about getting all dark on people around you and death and whatnot. Today's episode we're following up on the 2020 recap we're doing. It's Been a Fun Year, the review from last year. So if you haven't heard the first part, be sure to do that. Go back, listen to the first five months of the year when s*** was serious and we just cross over to get f***** area.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where s***'s gonna get f*****. So we had just finished May in our recap, and that's when the shoe dropped hard. Following the death of George Floyd, a unarmed black man at the hands of a white police officer and four other, well, three other cops standing by doing nothing. This got recorded, and it was a very long video of a man begging for his life while slowly fading out of this plane of existence. And when we ended, we were at 6 million coronavirus cases.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So let's begin on June, June 2nd. Brooklyn PD. It's accused of corruption and abuse of power. Repeatedly. This time, they're caught on video after the protests broke out, after the country broke into protests, after Minneapolis had police try to solve their accusations of police brutality by using police brutality. This spread out to the rest of the country. And everywhere there were protests everywhere. Police also, police were trying to resort to the same measures. You're saying we here are also abusing our power. You're saying we're being brutal. Us, the cops, here to protect you. And as a result of trying to stop these false accusations caught on video, two police SUVs slammed into and drove through a crowd of protesters. Because this is America, and that's how you show them we're not brutal.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's not all the police run them over. You run them over.

Jack: Additionally, around this time, where s***'s hitting the fan pretty hard and race wars are essentially breaking out, I remember seeing a video of a guy in a truck who, I guess he had like a Trump flag or something, and he like flipped off some protesters that they pulled out behind them. They drove next to truck, got in front of the truck, slowed down the truck, ripped the guy out of the truck. I think he actually hit somebody with the truck. And then they got to the truck, they pulled the guy out of the truck, and they were on a bridge. They threw that guy off the bridge because that's where we are. I remember showing you that specifically the guy get pulled out of the truck and flung off a bridge. And then somehow he survived, which is way worse than had he died.

Cristina: But he. He hit someone before that too.

Jack: Yes, with the truck.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: He hit somebody with a truck. He already had like Maga flax on flags on his truck. And they just freaked out. A bunch of black people pulled him out, threw him over the bridge.

Cristina: And he lived.

Jack: And he lived. Which is way worse had he died. Great. Fantastic. End of the story. No, he fell off that bridge intervent. So that sucks. So, yeah, this is just day two. June 5th. The Buffalo riot police quit. Buffalo, New York riot police quit in protest of these. In protest of their abuse of power and in defense of some other cops. So your solution to being told you abuse your power is to quit. Which in reality, when that was being debated and discussed, the fact of it was investigations were being opened everywhere to.

Cristina: See that police are really abusing their power.

Jack: Any place that had a lot of accusations because now the country is calling for it. Look into all your cops. So they weren't idiots. They were like, not. We're out.

Cristina: Yeah, it's more about I. I got to do some things I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: They were just definitely like, I think my mom's calling. Yeah, she needs me right now. I can't be at work for a couple of months.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Oh no. The Covid's real now, guys. It hasn't been real until this very moment. But I gotta stay home now, you know, Safety of my family and all. June 6, this is where that other shoe dropping finally hits the ground. It's only been fought, it's been mid air Suspense. This entire time we've been watching it incrementally because the global protests erupt.

Cristina: Now the world, the world, the world is protesting. It leaked brutality.

Jack: Yeah, it leaked out of the country.

Cristina: Yeah, that was pretty amazing.

Jack: It's. It's on some whole other s***. It left the United States and hit everywhere else.

Cristina: Because it's happening everywhere else as well. This problem, this police brutality thing. It's not just the cops here.

Jack: And as this is happening in the rest of the world, the US is leading the movement. So we're always. It began so Minneapolis had the first death, then they had the first protest. Then the protests spread everywhere else. When Minneapolis evolved into rioting against the police, into a mini war, then the rest of the country, the protest spread to the rest of the world. And now all the other places that police tried to solve with more brutality on top of the accusations, now those places are starting to have an uprising against the cops. This is where things got weird for a couple of weeks. It got really complicated in June, but it began in June 6th when this s*** really started happening where the entire country not just protest, but riots. And not just riots, but good guys on both sides, or both good guys on the good side, and two different factions of bad guys, all in some sort of guerrilla warfare happening in major cities all over the country. We got people in New York City, both good police officers and protesters uniting entirely, uniting against corrupt departments supporting abusive behavior. So they're coming together, they're standing. This is a great line that's being drawn right now because we get videos of police officers taking knees with protesters walking hand in hand, marching down the streets. And we have other videos of police officers plowing through people, shooting them, tear gassing them, pulling out lethal weaponry on people, assaulting people who aren't even part of the protests. Like the kids who were just driving out of college. So crazy there's a war happening and you got to pick a side. But s*** kept getting crazy. And this is where we have the curfews getting established throughout the United States. Not even related to the COVID because businesses were closing. But you weren't obligated to stay at home. That was an advisory. Now being outside is illegal.

Cristina: That has to do with the protest.

Jack: That was with the protest. People were being. It was that crazy. In major cities, people were being sent home at a certain time about 8pm and you had to do it.

Cristina: You have to go home to stop you from protesting.

Jack: Stop the protesters and stop the rioting and stop the looting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And stop the dangerous behavior between the cops and the protesters. It got really crazy. And arrests at random and attacks on peaceful protesters. And by riot police. This is done by riot police throughout that whole time. So they just got more vicious after the curfews were put. Basically. Martial law was established in June.

Cristina: Yeah. Is that the same month where we were getting weird videos about what police were doing? Like some of them were dressing up and pretending to be protesters. Some of them were putting. What are those? Bricks. Bricks everywhere.

Jack: Yes, all of that. They were stacking bricks together. They were breaking windows while dressed like protesters and s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All that is the same. Because now they're trying to do their own more. Hey man, you're getting negative attention on us. And this should not you we're gonna get negative attention on. And TIFA was just the racist cops. Just the racist cops trying to frame the protesters and have a reason to be violent against them. But that didn't last long because June 7, footage of off duty officers out of uniform looting and torching properties surface. And that's where we get to see these videos.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And see that when you pull their mask off, it turns out that guy's a f****** officer.

Cristina: Like the ending of Scooby Doo.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You take off the mask. Like what?

Jack: And who found out it was the f****** meddling kids.

Cristina: It was the meddling kids. Whoa.

Jack: Towards the end of June 7, we started getting the videos of police arresting police. I saw some really weird s*** that day. Particularly the cops that broke into a store fully in uniform to beat the crap out of protesters. To then have other cops enter behind them, draw their guns on the original cops to walk in, tell them to put the gun. Because they were about. The cops who went in first were just gonna shoot unarmed people. That was their goal. Then the second wave of cops walked into the store as well. And their. Nope, put your s*** down. And they started arresting each other.

Cristina: That was f****** complicated. Yeah.

Jack: Cops arresting cops. It got really weird. We had cops talking bad about cops. Cops out high ranking cops discharging people. There was a white cop snapping out some innocent protester who had no weapons. Being common everything. And his senior came up and Told him, you're f******. Get the f*** out of here. And that's caught on video. Just this lady walks up. His senior was a woman who just walked up and is like, get out. You're off of it.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: And so we had a lot of that.

Cristina: This is when they talk of no more police or that's a little later.

Jack: This is the month where that conversation. It began early and it started to take form as the month went along. And around the 22nd, we get a. From the CDC and the WHO that the. The band the WHO, CDC and the band, the who. We get told that more than 80% of cases in March might have gone undetected. Because now we find out you don't necessarily show symptoms if you have it.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Because now we're starting to get testing in hospitals and things in Mass, and we're finding out, holy crap. There are many, many, many people who have no symptoms. This has already escaped our control. It is God knows who has it. And that's complicated because as we close the month, we've only pretty much been testing people who have either gone to get tested or gone to the hospital at this point. And we've hit that number globally at 10 million by the end of June.

Cristina: 10 million. Which last month, 6 million.

Jack: Yes. So we roughly doubled up. A little less than doubled up. That's how we end June. But then July comes, a relatively tame month. Things don't really happen.

Cristina: Probably more still talks about what to do with those cops.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Like police reform becomes a new thing. Besides just getting rid of them. How about we just change the system?

Jack: Yeah. Because of the amount of protesting. That became one of the main things we had to do. And the protesting had not stopped. It will not stop. It's kind of still going on right now, 20, 21. It's never stopped. That ball got started and it's still f****** rolling. There's a place that's had a little over, like, five months of protest straight since they began.

Cristina: Good.

Jack: Fair enough. But, yeah, so that's definitely around July. It starts to take place in New York City, particularly, where they start to actually implement some of these things.

Cristina: Actually. They actually did.

Jack: Yeah. They start firing police officers and they start starting with the people who killed George Floyd. They're starting to get punished. But now they cases are opened everywhere and they're flipping over this law. They've brought up the law that allows paperwork to always be hidden from the public relative to cops and junk.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So now that's immediately got moved to the top main court. S***. And now it's being debated whether we should get rid of this because it is definitely allowing abuse of power.

Cristina: Definitely.

Jack: So that's all being discussed. And we come to July 7. US surpasses 3 million infections WHO withdraw. So we're just like, you guys don't know what you're doing. Because we know what we're doing. Like, any help is better than no help.

Cristina: No. We have the vice president. He takes charge.

Jack: He takes charge.

Cristina: He's gonna protect us.

Jack: He is better than the ban.

Cristina: The who. Science knowledge.

Jack: Hey, who knows how much science knowledge? He's probably a closeted scientist. Studied all the things, of course. Who. Who do you trust more to deal with the virus? The vice president or the band? The who. Right. Okay.

Cristina: Fair enough.

Jack: See how that works? You think, like, I guess they mean chill music, but, like, do they know chemistry? And it's like, even if Pence doesn't.

Cristina: Know chemistry, he's got the Space Force on his side.

Jack: He does.

Cristina: They could help.

Jack: He's already sort of science y. Yeah, Space Force. Now Covid, it seems like he's at least staying in the sciences.

Cristina: Such weird jobs.

Jack: The most religious guy any of us know is who got put in charge of science.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Crazy. He's going to pray at it. He's going to pray at it. But July 9, things escalate a little more. And it's because in Florida and in Texas, there's regions that people were catching it the entire time, but there were groups of people who were actually staying at home en masse. And those people started getting into the hospital with COVID What was going on? Well, they sent some teams out there to start investigating and checking out what the h***'s happening, because these are rural places where, like, people weren't going anywhere. A lot of them are seniors, and they're just staying home to be safe. But it turns out the virus went airborne. It mutated, and now there's an airborne strain in the South.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: And that kind of throws a wrench in all the plans, because how do you hide from something that's going to catch you in your house, whether or not you're around people?

Cristina: But it can't just go into your house, can it? It's not like traveling into houses, is it?

Jack: But, like, on its own, you can't leave the inside of your home, even to your own property, because Air.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Someone who has it might have walked by, and then it's just there hanging out.

Jack: And that doesn't help that we're having some of the craziest wind, which is problematic.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: S*** gets weird. So, yeah, now it's airborne. And by. We end July with an airborne virus at 17 million cases global.

Cristina: Whaat.

Jack: What's interesting about this is the numbers are going down. We're not doubling up anymore. The numbers are already huge, so every time we. 0.5, it's still kind of excessive, but the amount it's spreading is still going down. Interesting enough collectively, like, we're no longer double each time, even if way more people have it. We're definitely based on the numbers figuring it out. Even if it looks like there's a bunch of a******* not following rules or whatever.

Cristina: There's enough doing the right thing.

Jack: There's enough doing the right thing. Yeah. And then we enter August. This is a weird one, because s*** gets complicated pretty quickly. So we begin August and immediately with a bang. Yes, with a bang.

Cristina: Hey, like January, sort of.

Jack: Yeah, kind of. Sometimes months start with a bang. And the particular bang here on August 4th was also on August 4th, by the way. Two bangs on the 4th of two different months.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Interesting. Okay, also, side note, every president who doesn't show up to another president's inauguration has John in their name. Just saying. Just a weird fact about life.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's spitting gems. Here's a gem for you. Every president that's ever not gone to the inauguration of another president has been in some manner, shape, or form, had the name John. Had the name John.

Cristina: But there have been Johns who have been there.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: All the ones that didn't go were John. Were John. Okay.

Jack: And that is Donald. Yes, Donald John Trump. I thought it was Junior until I looked this up.

Cristina: How would you think? Why didn't he. Him naming his child Junior wouldn't make sense. You don't name your child Junior if you're a Junior Canopy.

Jack: The second third would be Junior. The third. There you go.

Cristina: Yeah, but his name is Junior.

Jack: His first name.

Cristina: No, it's Donald Junior, Isn't it? Don Junior, they always call him. Yeah, but is Donald junior?

Jack: Yeah, they don't have to say the third, but he would be. Anyways. Not the point. So the Beirut explosion in Lebanon, that.

Cristina: Was in August 4th.

Jack: Yes, on August 4th. The Beirut explosion in Lebanon, which was two consecutive explosions. One was relatively tame, which got all the cameras out. People started looking and whatever. And then the second one went off, which played a little like a nuke.

Cristina: It looks like, when you see it.

Jack: Yeah. Mushroom cloud and everything.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And it cleared out a giant. It destroyed Beirut root. It got Wrecked pretty badly and killed over 190 people and injured more than 6,000. Windows for miles broken, popped no more windows. Buildings in the immediate vicinity.

Cristina: No more buildings.

Jack: No more buildings. They cease to exist. They have been removed from this universe.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: F****** nuts. And due to. It's due to unsecure tons. Tons. Almost 3,000 tons of ammonium nitrogen stored in hangars in the city's port.

Cristina: Yep. That they totally forgot about or something. Yeah.

Jack: They were like, it's fine here. Nobody said s*** for the last couple of years. It's totally fine. Ignored it. And boom. Then boom. S*** got real. That's how we started the year. A nuke style catastrophe.

Cristina: That was a pretty crazy explosion. Just to watch it. And then all the conspiracies about that and like was it a nuke or was it a bomb from somewhere else or what is. You know. No one wanted to believe what it was.

Jack: Nobody wanted to believe it was what it was. Then August 12th, we find out that severe obesity increases mortality risk from COVID which explains why it spreads like wildfire in the United States. Predominantly in major cities where the unhealthy McDonald's lovin, KFC loving, obese, diabetic, cancerous heart disease, having high blood pressure, having way too much sugar, having no exercise and I'm not gonna eat anything minorly green people live. And so it becomes way apparent why we're doing way worse than the rest of the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's because we're unhealthy as f***. And it predominantly kills unhealthy people. It began on the elderly. That was how it began.

Cristina: Oh yeah. We didn't mention that. But yes.

Jack: But then as many mutations kept happening, it shifted and it landed on fat people. Fat people. People with. Because it took a while to get to fat people though. It went through smokers. There's a strain that attacks smokers. But there's a strain that if you're a smoker, you're less likely to get what. That's a f******. There was a strain that gives you heart problems. There's one that only affects you if you have heart problems.

Cristina: There was one that was attacking children.

Jack: There was one that was attacking children. There was one that was particularly dangerous for diabetics. So many different strains just mutates any f****** chance it gets. It's f****** crazy. But whatever. So we find that out and then on the 17th, COVID 19, now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. somehow we've still managed to out drive Covid. Right. Is that the other what are the other two?

Cristina: I like. The other one is, like, accidentally falling into something, like something really retarded.

Jack: 5 Ways to Die Us. Oh, s***. So heart disease, then cancer, then Covid.

Cristina: I thought accidents.

Jack: I thought accidents were number one, but it's number three. Yeah, I thought accidents, but I guess I'm wrong. So heart disease, then cancer, and now Covid. Then Covid. Interesting. Covid's a strong runner.

Cristina: I really thought accidents was gonna be up there. It is up there, but it's not.

Jack: It's up there. Not worse than Covid. We're not out here trying to fight heart disease with everything we've got. We're not out here trying to fight cancer with everything we've got. We definitely came up with an immediate vaccine for Covid, though. Rich people got threatened. That's why when rich people get scared, they. They do whatever the f*** they need to. Money goes into everything. But if it's like they're making fat people decisions, they're. Of course you're gonna have heart problems.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But you can educate them. No, no, no. That wastes my money. But now there's a plague that might get to you. Oh, no. That requires my money. Yeah, so that's how that works. So, yeah, Covid becomes the third leading cause, right behind cancer and heart disease. And then on the 19th, Trump was asked about QAnon at a press conference. QAnon? The people who brought you Epstein's Island?

Cristina: Yes. The people who are trying to protect the world from pedophiles. Evil predo. Pedophile.

Jack: Reptilian, Illuminati. Pedophiles who drink children blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is conflicting because. Are they raping the kids or are they harvesting the kids?

Cristina: I think they're doing both.

Jack: They're raping them and to scare them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you take their blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oh, so they're vampires.

Cristina: Yes, they're vampires.

Jack: They break in.

Cristina: They're shape shifting vampires. Blood sucking. Yeah, they're vampires.

Jack: Yeah. Kind of fits. Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But when asked about it and whether he supports them, and they explain that these are crazy conspiracy theorists. Not to say they're actually crazy. This is what the media said. I think these people do know what they're talking about to some degree. They're kind of crazy. Don't get me wrong. They're out of f****** minds. But they're not wrong. They're misguided. They are too passionate about something they've not looked deep in enough to like. They haven't done the work.

Cristina: They're disconnecting things they're being told by.

Jack: Some omniscient other douchebag.

Cristina: What's going on?

Jack: What's going on? They're like, well, let's go. Let's do fear. F****** Q is good. He knows the truth. And it's like, okay, look, some of this stuff is true, but you guys are idiots about your approach, and you're not well informed on how it's true. You're just assuming how it's true.

Cristina: Yes. And then I saw videos of a lady who went to a store where the masks were and she destroyed it for QAnon. She destroyed the mask display.

Jack: Makes sense.

Cristina: Masks are killing us.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, They've laced our masks with things that make us stupid or something.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And so, yeah, when told about this, Trump was like, I don't know. I don't even know how to make an impression. I don't know. I don't know much about the movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate, but I don't know much about the movement.

Cristina: I don't. He sounds evil. He sounds like Batman.

Jack: Hey, he does sound like Batman.

Cristina: I'm not sure.

Jack: And then on August 28th, first known case of COVID re infection reported in the US a person who was cleared and seems to have not have it anymore now has it again, which means you don't stay immune for long.

Cristina: So then what about all these vaccine things? Will they help out if you can just get it again or. It's like the flu, you get it every year.

Jack: Well, assuming that it doesn't work anywhere near as powerful as that, and that your immunity fades after a couple of months, just two or three as it seems. That's really a temporary measure. The goal would be have enough supply. Vaccinate your entire population. The virus has nowhere to go. Isolate those that still have it, vaccinate them, eradicate it. Like smallpox.

Cristina: Will never be that organized.

Jack: We've done it before.

Cristina: Okay, like smallpox.

Jack: Just a matter of doing it right.

Cristina: Until there were ladies who decided their children doesn't need the smallpox vaccine.

Jack: And then it spread all over again, so. Cuz.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: We did it because. Essential oils. Why not? It's those people. Anyways, we close this month off with 25 million cases. Still slowing down. Now we're what, less than one third up? It's way less than before. Numbers are still coming down. But here's what's funny. Everywhere else in the world, they're slowing down.

Cristina: In the US it's growing.

Jack: Most of that increase is just us. That's where it starts to get really complicated. Because us continues to grow exponentially while other places are successfully lowering in town. Enter September. We're long past the January, February, March inferno that Australia was dealing with. It was horrendous. It was awful. But we got through it. We got rid of it. They're gone. We're free. You guys get to rest. It's finally done. You guys can go back home. All you firefighters from California that came to help you get to go home. You Australian firefighters who made it through, you're good. Oh my God, there's a fire in California. We gotta go home to fight a fire also. You Australians, come with us. We need you. Enter the actual worst fire in the planet's history.

Cristina: The California fire.

Jack: Yes. The fast moving bear fire, which was propelled by apparently lightning strikes and 45 mile an hour winds that spread that b**** the f*** out in an hour. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That was f****** crazy. Burned a hillside by the Bidwell Bar Bridge. The fire tore through 230,000 acres in one 24 hour period. That s*** is not f****** around. That wind was not f****** around. Nevertheless, that wind was followed by a giant cool chill.

Cristina: Then other wildfires spread across California, reaching Oregon and Washington.

Jack: Yes, the craziest part about these are that they weren't even lightning strikes or anything of that nature. It was literal embers. Giant. The winds were so strong they carried over still lit embers that were giant chunks enough to not go out on their travel across state lines.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Land in a different forest and ignite that s***. What?

Cristina: What?

Jack: That's crazy. That's the one that happened in Washington. Yeah, it just flew across from California, landed there and boom, now you're on fire too. So the f****** planets burning at this point. United States is on fire. One of the largest fire or the largest fire in history. We're talking we just lost the Amazon and Australia and somehow. Yeah, let it, let it all burn. All of it. God's like I said once, I wouldn't drown the world. And so he's fair setting it on fire.

Cristina: Because he didn't promise that.

Jack: Okay, yeah, he didn't promise no fire. That was his favorite to start with. Think about it. Saddam and Gomorrah drop that f****** fire from the sky. F*** these people. That's how you do it. Extinguish m************. But yeah, so that's how the f*** that went. And collectively it destroyed so many f****** homes and burned through at least 2.5 million acres in California.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: One of those fires I don't know if it was during that month or later on where the. They were trying to do a child's rebuke. A baby sex reveal party thing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Gender reveal.

Cristina: Gender reveal, that's the word.

Jack: But it's wrong. It's. Sex reveal is the right one.

Cristina: Oh, well. Anyway. And that started a fire.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz white people in fireworks America. Yeah, that's what happens. I hope they enjoy jail.

Cristina: Like you know what's happening in California. And then you do that. Though that should be illegal, shouldn't it?

Jack: I think it is illegal.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. You're expecting too much from people who don't think a lot. They should know more. Yes, Most people should know more. Most people don't know more. People are inherently stupid. Those people are a prime example of white privilege.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Moving on. September 23rd, a new, more contagious strain of COVID is discovered. Because that's how the story goes.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Before we had airborne. Now the previous original one that arrived has a strain which can fight most of the things in your immune system. Now you're more likely to catch it.

Cristina: Nice.

Jack: And that's to say the airborne strain is now popping up in a lot more places. It's either moving because people are traveling with it, or other strains are evolving to be airborne as well.

Cristina: Yeah, that could be awesome.

Jack: Which is problematic because vaccines come around. Do they work on all the strains?

Cristina: That is the big question that we gotta find out.

Jack: Big question. And then the global COVID deaths surpass 1 million. We have 1 million deaths of COVID landing the end of September with a total number of cases reported at 33 million. A million deaths, though still slowing down gradually. More and more, it's just crawling to a halt. Then we get to October.

Cristina: The first hornet nest is discovered in America. And it was destroyed. It was in Washington state.

Jack: Yes, yes.

Cristina: The Nest had 800 workers and nearly 200 queens were produced from that single nest.

Jack: And there's a soon to be more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we're just on the hunt for them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. So that's October for you. We have on October 2nd, Trump and the first lady test positive for COVID 19 and Trump enters the hospital. On October 5th, Trump leaves the hospital but continues receiving treatment. By October 8th, the White House had a Covid outbreak that reached 34 staff members.

Cristina: Ridiculous. Did he do that? I think he did that.

Jack: He just went back home and spread it to everybody. So as we are reaching the end of October, the flooding that was happening earlier in the year hasn't stopped. Yet.

Cristina: But flooding from India and Nepal.

Jack: Yeah. And as that's finally coming to a close, or not coming to close, but falling lower than it was before, people start calculating the destruction which got excessive because the river resulted in the death of. The river's flooding resulted in the death of 189 people and left over 4 million homeless in India and Nepal, all by the end of October. They were living a separate kind of h*** on top of the fact that they were dealing with the virus in that whole time.

Cristina: 4 million homeless.

Jack: Ah, what End of times. And then we end October with a total infection count of 45 million. But if you notice, that was a.

Cristina: Little bit of a jump there from 33 to 45.

Jack: Now we're over 1/4 gain when we were only just a little. I guess we've been doing about 1/4 for a while now. Okay, fair enough. But we go into November then getting. Getting close to the end here, the end of days, and we enter November and, you know, we have a crazy presidential campaigning and debating and stuff. And then finally on November 3rd is.

Cristina: Oh, before we talk about the elections, I do want to mention a little bit about the Deb. Just one thing. My favorite thing that I probably already talked about, but come on, come on. Trump talks about Biden's plans to replace the windows. No, to destroy buildings and then rebuild them to make little windows.

Jack: Tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows.

Jack: He wants have all the buildings with tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows. Yep. He wants to destroy all of them, replace them just with tinier windows. That's the evil thing.

Jack: Also, Pence became Lord of the Flies.

Cristina: Yes. That was a huge thing, too. That fly was a star in those debates.

Jack: Yes. People love it. He's the most celebrity ever existed.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: It's the most famous. The only thing more famous than Trump is that fly.

Cristina: Yes. No. November 3rd, the election day happens, and.

Jack: It'S an excruciating day with battles and swords and guns and tanks rolling on the street, missiles dropped.

Cristina: The date like, it lasted three days, four days.

Jack: Well, people were waiting to see how the count happens, which didn't end because many, many more votes way under prepared. November 4th, Trump, he claims that the results are bullshit. That because he ended, obviously. Okay, so the process goes that you begin counting the first ballots that were walking and then you count the ballots that were mailed in. This applies this way to most states. Trump almost exclusively told his people to vote through ballots in person.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: While Biden told everybody to stay f****** home and vote from their house. So the ones that are counted first.

Cristina: Are Trump's are Trump's votes. So his numbers get higher.

Jack: So his numbers get higher. Exactly. They have to be higher because you told everybody to vote in person and the states vote in person. Trump's original goal was to have himself declared president by the end of the first day, to completely exclude any mail in balance. But he found that incredibly difficult because it's illegal and you're gonna go to jail if you do that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that plan got flushed down the toilet, and then propaganda had to come into play, which is where he comes in and tells people that it's bullshit that I'm losing because I was winning yesterday. Yes, but you should have told people to vote by mail, because anybody who was like, I'm not voting by mail. It's crooked, but was too lazy to come in is a vote you lost.

Cristina: And he wants them to recount the.

Jack: Votes and stuff in many, many places that recounted by their own Republicans.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And turned out it wasn't fraud.

Cristina: And also, he has this crazy conspiracy that counting votes turn you evil, which I don't understand. Like, if they're turning you evil, why would you trust the next people to count the votes if the counting's gonna turn those people evil?

Jack: What's fascinating is that the exact same process took place in the previous election.

Cristina: Well, they were all evil. Yeah.

Jack: Because it worked in his favor. He was cool with it.

Cristina: Yes. Once it wasn't. Yeah.

Jack: And that's how that goes. So that's crazy. That happens for a while. And we. We get in the same day that the fourth, where he's over here like, no, this is all bullshit. I secretly won, and they're trying to steal it from me. The United States also reports that the daily coronavirus cases have surpassed a hundred thousand in the country collectively. So we're getting 100,000 cases daily in the country.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And so eventually, Thanksgiving is cancelled.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people can't go anywhere. You're not allowed to have Thanksgiving. It's canceled. No more. Thanksgiving is legal. But nobody listens and goes and gathers anyways in mass. Many, many, many, many, many people gather in mass. And slowly but surely, s*** gets out of hand and we close the month. With Trump continuing to reject the election results, of course, unendingly, and just claiming it's all fraud. And November closes with a count of 62 million infections global.

Cristina: That's. How much more than 45 is that getting?

Jack: We're getting close to doubling up. All right, this is one. It's plus one half. So we're over 25% now. Now we're doing plus half. Yeah. So we're. That. That's entirely due that jump. That's Thanksgiving right there.

Cristina: That's Thanksgiving.

Jack: People are f****** idiots.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then finally, we hit December, where things get kind of weird. So, December 9, in his bid to overturn the election, the. A bunch of documents and crap are rushed over to the Supreme Court to try to overthrow the decision of the voting and whatever. But it's all rejected. Some of it justly, some of it unjustly. Ironically enough, at some point, they literally stop looking at the cases coming in. And I'm sorry, but it's your job.

Cristina: To look at that.

Jack: To look at the cases coming in.

Cristina: That's your only job.

Jack: That's your only job. You supposed to look at cases. Now you're starting to look crooked because you're just preemptively deciding it's a lie. And look, it doesn't matter if a million of them were. If the millionth and one is true.

Cristina: We need to know.

Jack: We need to know. So you better be looking at all these f****** cases, not deciding. I'm tired of looking at these cases.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He could propose a billion of them, and you look through every single f****** one. That's why you're there. You're not gonna do your job then leave your f****** post and let somebody who's gonna go do it be there because you're clearly not getting the point.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's problematic in this time. Videos of people taking ballots from under tables showed up. Some of them were disproved, some of them were proved. Some of them were disproved as fraudulent because the containers were right. They were just under a table, and they keep them stored. But the behavior that surrounded the circumstance was particularly weird, in which everybody was told to. They were done, and then these people brought more ballots without supervision and continued to do everything. Now, in the video that shows this particular incident, you see the containers, right? The way they're counting looks right. Everything seems to be right, with the exception that only three people were left in the building, and the reporters and the vote and the poll watchers were all gone. They thought counting was over because the people said, we're not gonna count anymore. You could stay, but we're not gonna count. And everybody left. And then they kept counting without supervision. Now, on camera, we can't see them screening these themselves, but there's nothing really stopping us from missing how they're doing it effectively in front of a camera. That's really weird that they would continue to count after all supervision is gone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's a very strange thing. That is one of I believe three identical videos of the sort. Most of the accused frauds are irrational things that a normal person can just debunk themselves. Including the one that there were a lot of ballots kept or lost by the post office. Which is stupid because if that was the case, over 80% of all ballot votes were for Biden because he told people to vote by ballot and Trump told his not to. So if there were votes missing, which I don't believe that there was a giant landslide difference between their voting count. You're telling me that Biden won by more. If they were missing. That doesn't really fit. I do think it was way closer. If there was fraud, it wasn't significant enough to make change. And if there was, it would be in favor of Biden. Which is weird argument to have.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That the fraud, the poster service failed us inside. You mean the people who were bringing in the left votes. What a weird argument to have.

Cristina: You need an argument though.

Jack: You need an argument. I guess it doesn't work though. It's very, very not thought out. Not to say I do believe there's fraud. There's always fraud. There's never not fraud in an election. But that fraud isn't this crazy thing that they think it's. If there's fraud, it's way more intricate and the normal person wouldn't understand how complicated the systems that led to successfully committing fraud are. That's why the mass who are pretending they have the capacity to understand what informed individuals who strategically planned in privacy how to execute fraudulent tasks in secrecy legally so that it's all through the books except getting caught. That's the only time it becomes illegal. So it's all by the books. You're not supposed to understand. If you believe you understand. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is no exception to that rule. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is fraud. No question. And I'm sure because of how bad the system hates Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That there is strategic.

Cristina: They're just the tide of him.

Jack: Yeah. I'm so sure it was planned to get him out. I'm also sure it was done by means that would be too complicated. If it was illegal. It's too complicated for you to understand how it's illegal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Whatever you think you figured out is a lie. You're an idiot. You just believe in some bullshit. And if it wasn't done illegally, it was orchestrated legally with the help of many people, many lobbyists, many people with money and Deepak as trying to get a madman losing the money out of office.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So regardless, I'm on the side of that didn't happen. It wasn't legal by any means. I do believe illegal fraud happened, but it's not what other people think happened. Would Trump have won? I'm not sure. I feel like he's created and he's generated enough hate.

Cristina: It's really hard to tell that.

Jack: Yeah, I think it would have been close anyways. I don't think there's a landslide in Biden's favor. I don't think that's right. I think it was pretty close. But whatever people think is the fraud your fault, if it could stay on the Internet, clearly it wasn't well executed. You're just falling down rabbit holes. That's all it is. And if you're falling down rabbit holes, I highly recommend you educate yourself because you are not the most informed individual. It is important to get factual information.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And in December 14, finally, the electoral College, which are the most corrupt part of the entire election process because. Corruption, period. Their concept is corrupt. They finally choose Joe Biden as president. They affirm he is the president elect for a fact.

Cristina: That's the end of that until. What is it the end of June or something? Is it next up?

Jack: No, it's January.

Cristina: Oh, January.

Jack: January 20th.

Cristina: 20Th. Okay. And then in December, what everyone's been waiting for aliens. That's what everyone before December came predicted. It would be aliens. And it was aliens. We're told that aliens are real.

Jack: Aliens are real. And they have been real.

Cristina: They have been real. And it was from a former Israel space security chief called Haim Eshed. I think that's how you pronounce it. He said that the Galactic Federation has been waiting for us to reach the stage where we will understand what space and spaceships are, which I feel like we're there, but whatever. They're still waiting. But they don't think we're ready for them. Not yet. So there must be something about spaceship technology that we haven't figured out. I guess we can't maybe warp speed.

Jack: No, man. We can't even, like, reach our moon quickly. Yeah. Definitely has to be some speed threshold because we're just not just bound to our planet, but we're so bound to our planet, it's theoretical, that we can get to Mars. That's a planet over. We haven't figured it out.

Cristina: It's theoretical. Figured it figured out. Then maybe they'll be like, hey, we're.

Jack: Here, I think, truly exploring Our star system is where they show up, which is nowhere near. I think that's the moment that they show themselves, when we have the ability to easily traverse space. And not like it's taking us mad years to cross space, but, like, we can. Hey, I'm going on vacation for the weekend. I'm headed to Mars.

Cristina: That would be awesome. Well, the aliens are curious about us and are seeking to understand the fabric of the universe. The aliens are scientists. I guess that's.

Jack: That's the only way that would happen.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. Also, they have an underground base in Mars where American astronauts and aliens are hanging out.

Jack: So we've already been to Mars.

Cristina: Yep. I guess we. Yes. So there's some other space technology that we haven't figured out since we're already in Mars. I guess.

Jack: See, I was on board with this guy, and then you say that part, and I'm like.

Cristina: Why would this guy say that?

Jack: He ruined it. He ruined the illusion.

Cristina: Well, the U.S. government and the aliens signed a contract so that they could do experiments here. So I guess they agree with the aliens abducting us and all those stories.

Jack: I mean, I doubt they're abducting us.

Cristina: And also, President Donald Trump knows about it, and he's been. He's been wanting to let us know, but has been asked not to do it, not to tell us because of mass hysteria. And I guess that's good enough for him. He's like, yeah, I won't.

Jack: I'm super sure he doesn't know, because that's the biggest lie. If he knew, we'd all know.

Cristina: He'd be hinting to it.

Jack: He wouldn't even be hinting to it. He would flat out just tell us, Adam. Sheer amazement.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He would be like, holy f***, people. Aliens.

Cristina: Yep. I'm the best president. I let you know. Aliens.

Jack: You wouldn't have gotten this from Obama.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. And that's pretty much it. That we know about the aliens. It's just that they're waiting for us to learn about space and spaceships, even though we have the technology to be on Mars already and have a space station there already. I guess.

Jack: Yeah, apparently.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people trolling, decided it would be funny to put monoliths everywhere, everywhere and make them disappear.

Cristina: Monoliths all over the place.

Jack: Put in, people, find them, take them down. Then people like, whoa, where to go, bro?

Cristina: Yeah. And they thought that was aliens, but no way. I saw one that was made out of gingerbread.

Jack: That's fantastic. And the same one that came from one place showed up in the other was identical. Yeah, and then they found out, oh, we can remove it.

Cristina: We are the aliens.

Jack: We are the aliens. We're being trolled by an artist. I forgot the artist's name. But yeah, it was an artist Rendi, not a rendition. It was just a performance art thing. And so also in December, vaccines, the quickest round of vaccine development in history has taken place because rich people are scared to die. So they funded anything I'm promising you. Not only is it already likely that we have the cure to AIDS and cancer and like dying, but like if we don't, rich people can fund the f*** out of it and like get it done overnight. Like realistically, it would be a breeze. There's just no motivation. Yeah, you need cancer because you make money off of the medication for cancer. But if a plague of cancer was ravaging that couldn't be cured and it's exclusively killing rich people, tomorrow you'd have the solution to that problem. Tomorrow it would be done tomorrow.

Cristina: And then we saw a bunch of videos of doctors who were getting the vaccine but weren't really getting.

Jack: Oh yeah, the vaccine was already approved and people were taking it on TV to promote that it's healthy and safe. And the doctors that made the vaccine weren't really getting it. Those needles weren't piercing their skin or anything.

Cristina: Yep. Suspicious.

Jack: Very.

Cristina: What is it?

Jack: Very, very. That includes the doctors that made it and Nancy Pelosi.

Cristina: What? How dare she.

Jack: Who also faked getting a f****** vaccine. Additionally, Christmas was cancelled and as a result everybody went to their families houses anyways and prepare for this next explosive wave.

Cristina: Also Santa Claus, they, they let everyone know that Santa Claus doesn't have to worry about COVID because he's immune. Oh yeah, he's immune to Covid.

Jack: Yeah, because he's the God of the elves or something. Is that what he is? He's the God of the elves, Right? Some s*** like that. Yeah. So that's pretty much the year we end December with a total of 80 million global cases. So that's fun.

Cristina: That's fun.

Jack: It's always exciting ending the year on a high note. Get it? High note. But yeah. Quick summary out of. Due to climate change, there were 41 total disasters around the world. Around the world. Of which 8, 18 were in the US. This includes wildfires, hurricanes, typhoons. Five storms made landfall in Louisiana this hurricane season. Yep.

Cristina: Breaking the state record for the most strikes in a single season.

Jack: Yes, there were 30 main storms and.

Cristina: Three of the four fires in California were the biggest they ever Had.

Jack: Yep. And pollution decline in major cities. But it was short lived because eventually we got bored and came back up.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. It didn't really matter. The driving less and flying less helped a little for a little while, but.

Jack: But it is what it is. That's how we. That was. That was 2020. That was we. And we're all still here. The work. The world didn't end.

Cristina: It got better. The future's now. We have space travel, a base in Mars.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Last episode you said we do we already go to Mars actually. So this makes sense. That guy was telling the truth.

Jack: Yeah, I guess he was always right. Yeah, he was just revealing secrets that he shouldn't have revealed at that time. And now he's gonna get Epstein'd by other people. But that's cool.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because he's talking. He's talking too much. They know he can't be trusted. Yeah. That's a 2020 right there for you.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: An exciting year.

Cristina: See what 2021 brings.

Jack: That being said, things that didn't even get mentioned on list is the fact that police were in fact removed en masse from New York City. Eventually that led to a mass spike in crime. And a couple of other cities also tried the same thing. Crime rates over the roof, specifically gun related assaults and murders skyrocketed. We had many civil wars all over the country.

Cristina: We destroyed statues.

Jack: Yes. We knocked down statues in the name of civil rights, which was just the government's way to distract us from the fact that there were civil rights problems happening. And by redirecting everybody's focus towards the statues. People feel like they accomplish things if they agree to remove statues and don't really have to change the police forces. Which seems to be exactly what's happening now that after the statues became the focus, Police department stopped being disbanded.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So pretty much more of the same in that angle. Companies all lined with somebody left or right. Somebody picked the side, whatever. Everybody flocked like crazy to. What the f*** is it called? The Parlor. To the Parlor app. Because Twitter and Facebook are shills.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, pretty much. 2020.

Cristina: 2020.

Jack: So yeah, this was the review. The just conversation. Rambling review.

Cristina: Yes. So Happy New Year's. Although I said it last episode, so I can't say it now.

Jack: I like how that sounds. Rambling review. That was the rambling review of 2020.

Cristina: Yes. That's how we start off the year.

Jack: Yeah. That's how. That's how we got here, man. That was just the history of how the we got here.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, I Hope you guys made it with us. I hope you guys are here with us, alive and good and well. If you want to hear the first part of this episode or any other episodes where we can talk conspiracies of COVID and government, you can find the show on the official website@greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @JustConvopod.

Jack: Yes, and remember to subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined, review.

Cristina: It and let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes, word of mouth. Very powerful. Tell people. Did you forget what happened this year? Was this year very boring to you? Very tame, mellow and repetitive. Did you miss most of the other things? Is that rock you were under way too heavy for you to look out of? Under. Well, here's a show for you. And then you show them this episode.

Cristina: In the first part, you tell them all through telepathy, which is now a thing.

Jack: Which is now a thing. You don't have to go there in person. You just send them a message. We're in the year 2021. We're so in the future. What?

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. By who do I think is stronger than Shaggy? What's his name?

Jack: Who? God?

Cristina: No. No. Not even Goku? Not Goku.

Jack: Superman?

Cristina: Chuck Norris.

Jack: You think Chuck Norris could be f****** Shaggy?

Cristina: Shaggy for sure.

Jack: Of all people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: He can do anything.

Jack: So can Shaggy, who's only using 1% of his power all times relative to anybody.

Cristina: We've never seen him do anything besides beat people up. I've never heard about any stories of him making things or any type of godlike powers that Sheik Norris has.

Jack: Here's the thing. Shaggy could beat up somebody like Chuck Norris using only 1% of his power.

Cristina: That's all he has because he hasn't.

Jack: Used the other 99 of his power. That's what you're missing here. With 1%, he can take down gods. Yeah, what does 2% look like? But he doesn't, because he doesn't need to. He could already beat God, and he could beat the. Beat Goku, and he could beat Chuck Norris.

Cristina: But Chuck Norris can do anything.

Jack: So can Dr. Manhattan and Dr. Manhattan get smacked down by Shaggy?

Cristina: Yes. But no. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor, and Published by GreatThoughts.in Fox, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 114: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 1

Just conversation, Podcast, Review, 2020 Review, New Year, Special, Police Brutality, Corruption, Election Fraud

What the hell happened in 2020? Well we do a recap of the events and where we went wrong!

 

The duo decides to dust off ancient books of the year 2020 and discover what the elders of that era were doing in their younger days and how they were dealing with the events. Going month by month and event by event, our two heroes revisit the highlights of this time before the flying cars and immortality were a thing.

Rambling 114: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 1

(This episode contains a transcript to make it accessible to Deaf and Hard of Hearing Audiences #DeafPodcast)

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Bushfires
  • World War III
  • The Who
  • Umbrella Corp.
  • Trump is the Best
  • Toilet Paper Crisis
  • Global Lockdown
  • Aliens Confirmed
  • Murder Hornets

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Official Website - https://greythoughts.info/podcast

Or anywhere you listen to podcasts!


+Transcript

Nick: Hi, my name is Nick.

Jack: I'm Brandon.

Nick: We are the hosts of the tennis podcast where every week we cover a different top 10 ish list. We cover lists such as the highest grossing films of all time, the best selling musicians of all time, the the.

Jack: Sexiest mogwais, the richest leprechauns, the all.

Nick: This and more we cover on the tennis podcast.

Jack: I had more.

Nick: You can find us on all podcast players including Apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher. All you gotta do is search for 10ish podcast. You can also find us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. And Brandon, what will we do if the listeners don't check out our podcast?

Jack: Well, cut your head off.

Nick: Don't make us cut your head off. Listen to the tennis podcast.

Jack: Bye.

Christina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Christina: What does live mean?

Jack: Huh? Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I am your host, Jack.

Christina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Christina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss. Discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to ask somebody nicely to listen to the show, please.

Christina: Really?

Jack: Yeah.

Jack: Totally.

Christina: For this episode.

Jack: For this episode.

Christina: What if they already did everything you told them to do in the last episode and now they're like, what?

Jack: Well, they.

Christina: How was that work?

Jack: No, they already got the work done. If they already listened and did it once and they got somebody to listen to the show.

Christina: But they assume like this episode would start the same though, and they would have prepared the same way.

Jack: Do you think they're just going out and doing this every episode?

Christina: Yes. After you said you gotta do it or else your memories erase. Actually, your memories always erase.

Jack: That's the craziest part.

Christina: I'm not really sure what their punishment was. Or. You kill their child.

Jack: Yeah. Their children are in danger and they gotta pay tax.

Christina: Yeah. In this episode, they did it for nothing.

Jack: No, this is a new, fresh year. What are you talking about?

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: This is different. We changed individuals. The only instance something bad would happen is if they don't ask somebody nicely, in which case their children are still in danger. And even if they're listening, it's outside of our power, they're gonna lose their memory. So all of that is sort of out of our control and they're still gonna get taxed.

Christina: Where does the memory loss. Where does that come from?

Jack: There's subliminal messaging in every episode.

Christina: Oh, okay, so the episodes. Doing it to them.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. We have our engineers encoded into the background.

Christina: Why do we do that?

Jack: To erase their memories.

Christina: Why?

Jack: Because we're like that.

Christina: We're like that. Okay?

Jack: That's who we are as people.

Christina: Yes. That's how we are.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: Anyways, Happy New Year.

Jack: Happy New Year.

Christina: It's not too late to say that. Like, how long after New Year is it? Like, stop saying Happy New Year.

Jack: I don't know.

Christina: Is it like the first time you see a person through the year? That time is the time you say it and then after that, no more.

Jack: It's a new year. Yeah, I guess.

Christina: But you just say it once and that's it.

Jack: Yeah, I don't.

Christina: You don't have to greet each other until the end of January or something.

Jack: Look, you say Happy new year until December 31st, and then there's a new year.

Christina: No, that's too much. At a point, you gotta stop. I think just say one time.

Jack: Says who? Who? Where's.

Christina: You just say one time.

Jack: Where's it written down? Point, point at the rule.

Christina: Right there. Right where I'm pointing.

Jack: That's not the rule.

Christina: Yes, it is.

Jack: I can see what you're saying. It's not that.

Christina: It's that.

Jack: That's a bottle.

Christina: It's the rule. You can't prove it's a bottle.

Jack: You can't prove it's the rule. Based on that same logic.

Christina: Well, the listeners will have to just believe me.

Jack: Fair enough.

Christina: I'm pointing out the rules anyways.

Jack: So, yeah, the. It's 2021. We're in the future. We have flying cars, flying skateboards. Our sneakers fly. So I don't know. I would need any of those other two options. There's tubes that teleport us immediately where we need to be.

Christina: Who uses those tubes?

Jack: We've been living on Mars for the past. How many days has it been since New Year's? For like three days. We got colonies set up.

Christina: We have for the tubes. I don't get it.

Jack: I don't get it.

Christina: And also, if you're going through the tubes, when you go to the end, are you upside down?

Jack: That's an interesting question. Right?

Christina: Yeah. How does that work?

Jack: I mean, I guess it would have to be like a tube that then loops up and then drops you down.

Christina: Oh, okay. Just. I never got that. But okay.

Jack: I don't understand either, because they get sucked in straight up. But Then they land straight up, which is like somewhere something sketchy happened.

Christina: Yes. I don't know. They were murdered. That's a clone.

Jack: Could be. So 2020.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We're on the moon. We're on Mars. We have a Dyson sphere around the sun.

Christina: Wait, you're talking about 2020.

Jack: 2021.

Christina: Oh, 2021. Okay.

Jack: 2010 just happened and we proved there's no God. What other achievements have happened this year? Things that have totally opposite from 2020, where the first f****** four days we dropped a bomb on somebody. But outside the point.

Christina: That was in December. In January.

Jack: January, man. That was January 4th or 3rd.

Christina: What?

Jack: Something like that.

Christina: Oh, I forgot about that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Trump was like, I ain't starting this year on no easy route. He was the. The foreshadowing about the year ago. And so totally counter to that. We've cured cancer, all of them. Cured diabetes, we cured obesity.

Christina: All of this happened in the first.

Jack: Week, a couple of days. Days or some s***. Yeah. So all of this has happened since then. We've found the cure to death. We no longer die.

Christina: No longer die.

Jack: The breakthrough for telepathy happened yesterday. I believe so. Yeah. The year's going really good. Way better. Yes, way better.

Christina: What was your favorite part of last year, though? It was a really great year. I don't know what you're talking about.

Jack: It wasn't a bad year. I didn't say it was a bad year.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I said it's just opposite. Last year it was more about tearing things down. This year is about building things up.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Science last year was like flat earth and conspiracy theories. This year, science, nothing but science.

Christina: This year was about conspiracy theories. It was a very conspiracy theory heavy year.

Jack: It was. It was. Anyways, I figured we could catch up on all the things that happened since January.

Christina: Oh, since January. January.

Jack: So that's what this episode is. This is a recap of the amazing. This is a 2020 recap.

Christina: If you forgot anything that happened last year or you just. There's so much things that happened, you probably don't know every single thing that happened.

Jack: Look, she might be trying to be nice about it, but in reality, if you're blackout drunk or a guy who was just strung out straight through 2020, because, f***, this year we're gonna tell you all the things you missed because you were in some sort of black cloud of nothingness.

Christina: Yes. We're here to help you out.

Jack: Yeah. Exactly how it's gonna happen. So. So let us begin by going way to the beginning. First There was nothing.

Christina: No, no. Well, what I remember. I would like to start before January, actually, because.

Jack: Before the first day.

Christina: Yes, before the first day. Because in December, something was happening in China and we didn't know what it was. And now we know, of course, but that started in December of 2019, which we were just like, there's something going on. What is it? Who knows? Mystery.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: And then it became the.

Jack: Some people got sick here, some people got sick over there. Oh, people getting really sick. It's spreading like wildfire.

Christina: It spread. And then in January, I guess now we can go to January.

Jack: Yes, in January, global cases of this mysterious virus have gone up to 9,000, 906.

Christina: And it was all in China. No, I don't know.

Jack: Maybe. I don't know. It was probably some here and there, but it was predominantly in China. So, yeah, 9,906 cases. So let's start. So we've got viruses somewhere out in the world, but elsewhere in the world, away from the viruses. Australia is on fire.

Christina: Yes. It's having its worst fire ever. Ever, ever.

Jack: The continent's on fire.

Christina: The continent? Yes. It's so crazy that New Zealand could see the smoke from the fire.

Jack: Yeah. The amount of area taken up is about the size of South Korea. No bullshit.

Christina: Of the fires.

Jack: The fire.

Christina: Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Jack: The amount of fire covers an area the size of South Korea.

Christina: Whoa. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's huge. That is huge. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. Roughly 25 million acres burned.

Christina: No, it's not.

Jack: 25 million acres on fire. And at least 33 people died. Exciting way to start this f****** year. Yeah, fantastic. Including at least three firefighters were dead there, too.

Christina: Yes. And the smoke of the fire was a problem. Besides the actual fire, the smoke, it was just really bad. The pollution of the air. Pollution.

Jack: Yeah. It's f***** up the planet to great new heights, not just locally, but like the planet.

Christina: The planet.

Jack: The planet. Yeah. Maybe around 3,000 homes have been lost. And the smoke was definitely like the big centerpiece there because it got seen everywhere and it's still lingering up there.

Christina: Still lingering.

Jack: Yeah. That s*** is in the sky. Then it got contagious later because of this. Australia recorded the worst pollution it's ever.

Christina: Seen, 23 times higher than what's considered hazardous. So it was really dangerous. It's still really dangerous. Are they still there? They're not there anymore. Right. We got a new Australia. Yes. We destroyed that land and built a new land over it.

Jack: No, they were still areas to live in. Like, the whole place isn't Gone.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Australia outsizes South Korea, which is why it's weird that it's an island. It's a continent island.

Christina: It's a continent island.

Jack: It's a continent country island.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. Australia is a unique place with unique.

Christina: Animals that we gotta save. We gotta go over there and save the animals. There's so many unique animals in Australia.

Jack: There's too many unique animals on the planet in general.

Christina: Australia. They only come from Australia. Once they're gone, they're gone.

Jack: So.

Christina: But they're so unique.

Jack: So.

Christina: Knuckles. We'll lose Knuckles. You want him to die?

Jack: I don't care. Look, here's the thing. The universe is making choices. Who are we to stop it? To stop it.

Christina: What about that weird platypus thing?

Jack: F*** that platypus thing. There's like, a furry duck mammal thing.

Christina: It's a mammal that thinks it's a bird. Yes. But it's so awesome. I don't want to lose those animals.

Jack: Yeah. I don't. I don't know. It's like, there's too many animals. What? Val, who cares? We save these animals, but then we ignore those. Or we have to kill those to save the environment anyways. Like, what the. How are we trading this off? We decide we got to save the Australian animals because. Trees on fire. But then over here, we're like, we gotta set these trees on fire because it's gonna kill the animals.

Christina: We're setting the trees on fire?

Jack: Well, you set the trees on fire to prevent bigger fires from happening in the future by controlling where the fire can happen and thus saving the E ecosystem.

Christina: But we can't do that. We're bad at it. Is that what we have?

Jack: Point being, we save these animals, but then we destroy those trees. Okay, maybe the trees are just making choices.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Or not even the trees. Just.

Christina: Nature is saying goodbye to Australia. Or at least a big chunk of it.

Jack: Yeah. It doesn't. The universe makes choices we're not allowed to question. Universal choices. Australia declares a state of disaster after the death of over 500 million animals.

Christina: That's so crazy.

Jack: That's f****** nuts.

Christina: That's crazy. Exactly. Exactly.

Jack: Yeah. It's pretty excessive. The amount of death, like, incalculable. And we're not even considering the amount of insects that lived in there.

Christina: Oh, my gosh. If we count the insects. Whoa. That's too much. That's a lot of death.

Jack: No, no, it's excessive. 25,000 koalas are dead. The koalas are dying.

Christina: The koala does. Yeah. 30% of their home is wiped out thanks to the fire. What are we gonna do with them? The ones that they can't go back home because their home is gone?

Jack: We're gonna eat them.

Christina: We keep them as pets.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: No, I think that's a bad idea. Take them to the zoos. No.

Jack: Smoothing along in January, the lovely President of the United States had a drone strike on a foreign military leader. That was an exciting introduction to the year. Not only were we rolling over from this Australia fire of the previous year, but we're like, this year didn't start on fire enough. Let's get some fireworks going.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And we drop the bomb that the f****** drone strike kills an Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani. That's when we drop the. So we dropped the drone on Soleimani, man.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. S*** got out of hand. There was definitely the potential for a war with the US both on their territories and on our territories, which is weird. Immediately at the beginning of the year, the potential for war just opened up.

Christina: And that reminds me, wasn't in December the Korean thing happening? Was that. Not this December? I don't remember. Oh, man. That Korea. We weren't sure if they were gonna bomb us because he made us some weird message about, like, you were gonna give you guys a gift or something. And we were thinking he was gonna, like, some horrible thing was going to happen.

Jack: Oh, yeah. Like a nuke or something.

Christina: Yeah. I'm not sure if that was this December, though. It was eight. December, for sure.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. It might have been this past. Not 2020, but like 2019. December.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because I wasn't for this year.

Christina: It wasn't. Okay.

Jack: No, that was for last year, I believe.

Christina: All right, Sorry.

Jack: Whatever. F******.

Christina: That was another.

Jack: It was 29.

Christina: We're going to be in war.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened usually. Then around January 9th, the WHO announces this mysterious coronavirus pneumon in Wuhan, China.

Christina: The beginning.

Jack: So there were already signs of something weird happening. But now the who got involved. The band. The who is now involved. S*** is serious.

Christina: That's how we know.

Jack: That's how we know. Once the. Once the who stops making music and gets involved, are they still alive?

Christina: That's an old band, isn't it?

Jack: It's very old.

Christina: Okay. So they came back from the grave.

Jack: Now, in the time that this s*** happens and it gets announced, people start to f****** panic and we start so dumb. Oh, my God, we're idiots. Because as the panic begins, we start pulling out everybody who we have. All Americans, rather come back Home.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's like, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.

Christina: Let them stay there for two weeks.

Jack: Yeah, abandon them. Let them stay there. You're pulling them out of a zone that has a plague running around. Yeah, maybe, Maybe, just maybe, just let them there. You just leave them there?

Christina: Yeah. Didn't we do that with the people on boats, on the cruise ships? We just, like. Okay, we thought about it mad late.

Jack: We thought about it mad late. That solution came mad late. Oh, when it's like, you brought the plague over, why didn't you just f****** cut it off?

Christina: I don't know. What was the point?

Jack: That's really how it spread. Yes, that's really how it spread. But here's what's funny. A bunch of people who did not get tested for having it or whatever were like, man, I must have had it back then. I heard that so many times. Like, people who thought they had it earlier than what happened or whatever.

Christina: Yeah. And you believe them?

Jack: No.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: I think it's possible, I guess, but what are the odds there weren't, like, a lot of people with it. You didn't just happen to have it, but it's these people who are, like, hypochondriacs, essentially.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: F****** crazy, but. Yeah. I don't know why the f*** we were pulling people out. Just f****** close that b**** down and leave them in there.

Christina: Leave them there. Look, that would have been a great solution.

Jack: Sucks. But they're the guinea pigs at this point. You're gonna find out how bad it is.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Are they gonna die?

Christina: Especially when a lot of countries don't even trust China and their news and stuff. Why not just keep your people there and just, you know, check on them and make sure that everything's.

Jack: Or. When they brought them up, why'd you bring them into the country and let them go? You should have, like, rented out a boat and put them on there. Yeah, right at the beginning. Keep them quarantined. You don't want them over there. We'll trap them over here, but. Trap them somewhere?

Christina: Yes.

Jack: That's f****** nuts.

Christina: Crazy.

Jack: So, yeah, that happens for the next couple of weeks.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: And then on the 21st, obviously, the CDC confirms the first US coronavirus cases. I mean, like, no s***. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you don't let people leave China when China's overrun by a deadly plague.

Christina: No one knew that it was so deadly. Or they did. I don't know. Whatever.

Jack: Weren't the hospitals over there right at the start?

Christina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Then Also on the 21st, Chinese scientist confirms COVID 19 human transmission.

Christina: Now we know about the monkey virus. Or was it a bat virus? Bat virus?

Jack: Bat soup virus. That's where that conspiracy starts. Because people got to be sketchy and make s*** up. And it came from a restaurant where bat soup was happening. And I don't know where the f*** that rumor got started.

Christina: You.

Jack: I definitely started that rumor.

Christina: Yes. And what was that other rumor? It came from that Resident Evil place.

Jack: Umbrellas, which I also started. It came from the. I started both of those.

Christina: Umbrella Corporation.

Jack: Yes. Well, that one might be true. It's not called the Umbrella Corporation, but it gets started in some lab or something. Yeah, that's the weird part. Like, there's. They're thinking it leaped through animals, but it was. Something was being tested on that kind of caused it. And not like we're gonna. I mean, we don't know the motivations behind them. They could have been like, we're gonna f****** destroy the world. But, like, it's unlikely. But, like, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I just don't know that it did.

Christina: There's many possibilities.

Jack: Many possibilities. And two days later, Wuhan, now under quarantine. This is where Hong Kong closed its borders to the rest of China and s*** everywhere. Wasn't allowing travel. Wuhan was on total lockdown. Everybody was trapped in their houses. I remember they were spraying down their roads and cleaning them in hazmat suits or sidewalks or buildings, everything.

Christina: And people weren't allowed out. And they need a passport. Not. What's it called? Pass.

Jack: Yeah, they needed a pass to go outside.

Christina: Yeah, they needed passes to go outside. What?

Jack: F****** nuts.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: All that s*** was cray cray.

Christina: That was cray cray. Then in January 31st, WHO issues global health emergency. So it's not a pandemic yet.

Jack: No, no. That happens much later down the line, but with the worldwide death toll becomes.

Christina: A health emergency because it's spreading fast.

Jack: And also that's around the same time that Trump got impeached for making a perfect phone call.

Christina: Yes. That was his tweet. I got. Well, I just got impeached for making a perfect phone call. Trump has the best words.

Jack: He has the best words. Let's be real. He has an army of followers.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And not to say that the left or right, because they're also a bunch of morons, but the bull. The right is blind. Like, both sides are pretty heavily brainwashed, except the left requires an army of people working tactically together to brainwash them. Trump seems to do what they do. Single handedly to both sides, I guess. Yeah, sort of.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: He portrays whatever image he wants and gets what he wants.

Christina: Yep.

Jack: So Trump effectively manipulates all the idiots on both sides.

Christina: And I'm sure that phone call was perfect. A perfect phone call. Only he could have a perfect phone call.

Jack: I swear that phone call was a tactical masterpiece in order to throw people off of something crazier he was doing.

Christina: Ooh, it was.

Jack: He's too slick. He's too slick. He is one of the smartest individuals to have just blessed this planet and he really is. The best part is he's not Obama, who needs to show off his intellect and prove to people I'm slicker than you are. He's okay with. Sure, it's okay. If you think I'm an idiot, I have the upper hand there. Because if you think I'm an idiot, I can always catch you off guard.

Christina: And he always does.

Jack: And he always does.

Christina: I don't know how.

Jack: The right ignores blatant facts because he says so. And he's tricked them many, many times. The left will ignore blatant facts just because he says so. They. They get sucked into vortexes of his thoughts. He does have the perfect words. He destroys the psyche of dumb people.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: He said idiots will vote for me and idiots voted for him. He said, these morons on the left are gonna freak the f*** out when I do this. And they did f****** freak out. They're all idiots. Both sides are so stupid. They don't realize that Trump isn't what he says he is. He's what he secretly is and lies to you about an image that you're gonna follow. He knows who's gonna do what.

Christina: It works for him.

Jack: It works for him very well. And so he has an army of followers and haters, all based on his chosen perception.

Christina: And that was the end of January.

Jack: Yeah, beautiful. End of January, it was the we're still in light time, light light mode. Very simple, easy.

Christina: I don't know. Those are pretty crazy situations.

Jack: But no, that was tame s*** compared.

Christina: To what comes next.

Jack: That was all tame s***. Yeah. Cuz next comes February. So we finished almost at 10,000 cases on January. Come February, by the end of February, we have about 85,000 cases.

Christina: Crazy jump.

Jack: That's a crazy jump. To contain the coronavirus outbreak, the Chinese government sealed off Wuhan, which happened at the beginning, at the end of January and banned public transportation and private cars from the streets and access to the streets. Businesses shut down. Hospitals were the only place essentially open and groceries were Essentially being delivered to people's doorsteps because they were now allowed outside of their house. Rationing.

Christina: They were really trapped.

Jack: They were locked the f*** down.

Christina: What?

Jack: Yep.

Christina: That's the beginning now. Are they all dead? Is it nothing there now?

Jack: No, there's probably fine now.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: Or they're still going through it. Who knows? Like, the world hasn't solved the problem yet, so who the h*** knows? You're starting this year, still dealing with that. But by February 2, all global air travel has been cut, which is great.

Christina: I mean, I guess it's bad for people who need to travel, but yes, great for Earth. Earth was like, I need this.

Jack: Yeah, Earth was definitely. That's the craziest part. I remember somewhere in, like March, after the lockdowns happened, that people were making those posts about just seeing animals coming out. It's like, Earth is healing itself or whatever.

Christina: Earth is healing itself. Oh, yes. I think that was a meme too.

Jack: Yeah, it was f****** everywhere.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: And then it got it all obviously, like mediums, like spun out of control and then dumb equal.

Christina: Exactly. Yeah. It's like two. What was it? Two scooters floating out of the water. Earth is healing itself. Yeah, I don't know.

Jack: Sounds about right. Yep. Yep. But basically February is a really slow month because it's very drowned in Covid. That's pretty much all the excitement.

Christina: Covid.

Jack: Covid. By February 3, the US declared public health emergency. So, okay, we caught up to s*** that's already been going on. We don't f****** do s*** on time, I guess.

Christina: Or watching Covid on the news 247 by now. Or I feel like more on Feb. March.

Jack: Yeah, more like March or whatever. I remember tracking.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Every time we were here, we would always check to see what. What the progress was.

Christina: Yeah. But the rest of the people in the Illuminati office weren't really paying attention until March.

Jack: Yeah. Until we were all given the order of. Now it's serious, guys. Yeah, Time to work.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But by the 10th, China's COVID 19 deaths had exceeded of SARS. What? The SARS crisis.

Christina: Do you remember how much death was in the sars?

Jack: No, but this is way more than that.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And then on February 25th, the CDC says COVID 19 is heading towards pandemic.

Christina: Status and people flipped out. Not this part.

Jack: This is the.

Christina: This is not the part yet.

Jack: They were freaking out at the. Just the anticipation that it might be called the pandemic was like, oh my God. Like, bro, whatever's happening is already happening. They're Just changing the title of it.

Christina: But the change somehow made it feel more like, oh, my gosh. Like, these cases aren't oh, my gosh. But.

Jack: Well, we finish February, like I said, with 85,000 cases, and then it jumps. And then it jumps. So that by the end of March, we're at 800,000 global cases. Ten times over.

Christina: Yes. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: So where we're. It's definitely spreading pandemic style.

Christina: Mm. Man. But the numbers are just so crazy. It's just gonna get crazier.

Jack: The leaps are monumental.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: So March.

Christina: The first lockdown.

Jack: Yes. Yes, the first lockdowns. And ahead of the possibility of those lockdowns, the first thing that happened after people heard, oh, my God, it might become a pandemic is we have to stock up on supplies for when we're locked down. And everybody had the same idea. Fair enough. Stock up on what you have. Of course, there's greedy people who were gonna take more than they needed. There's always that bunch of people who are douchebags, essentially. I got more money. I'm buying way more. And, yeah, whatever you're douchebagging, you deserve to be in by the zombies that are coming or whatever's happening. And I'm pretty sure in New Jersey, at some point, there was, like, some other plague.

Christina: Why?

Jack: There was some other s*** killing people off, but the government was suppressing. I remember that s*** specifically. I remember reading about that. That the government was suppressing some f****** other plague that was happening. Right. In New Jersey.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: You remember that? We had this conversation about how some other sh. Like, plague was happening in Jersey.

Christina: Yeah, I remember talking about it, but I don't know, like, what happened with that?

Jack: This s*** got crazier, I guess, and it, like, over camera. Anyway, so when people were, you know, shopping, buying their things, some mass hysteria took over.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And it led to people, instead of buying food, buying toilet paper. All of it.

Christina: All of it.

Jack: All of it, yes. Everywhere in the world. The world ran out of toilet paper.

Christina: Not really. Because they had so much.

Jack: Not really, because toilet paper are usually locally made, and toilet paper tends to be stocked in the warehouse real close by.

Christina: But they was gone.

Jack: And it was gone for, like, a week.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: Because they would. If you come at. If you come into the supermarket. This applies to most things in a supermarket. If you empty the thing out at night, the stock deliver people show up at night and restock so that by the morning, everything is already there.

Christina: Yeah. So the horse shortage is just for the night. Yeah.

Jack: Until the close by warehouse ran out. That doesn't mean they don't have some giant other warehouse somewhere with it. Which is why it took a week after the warehouse ran dry. Because people kept hoarding it. Because it happened in a domino effect way where somebody saw somebody buying too much toilet paper and they were like, oh, s***, this probably happening. Everyone let me buy toilet paper. And so they bought toilet paper. Then some other person sees the person who originated doing it. The person who saw them doing it panicked, and then they panic, and you follow this train of thought. And then before long, everybody only buying f****** toilet paper. The zombies. And that repeatedly led to the warehouses themselves running dry. But the local warehouse, not the distribution warehouse. So the local warehouse at the end of the week would get stocked f****** anyways. And people were like, oh, the shelves are empty. We gotta get as much as we can when we see it. Which is ridiculous.

Christina: Yes. And that lasted a while.

Jack: That lasted a while. Lasted a couple of weeks before people just started putting up signs. No, you are. You take one.

Christina: Yes. There was a lot of. You take one for. Because it started with toilet paper, but then it became other things like.

Jack: Yeah, hand sanitizer.

Christina: Yeah. Loves frozen food. I saw that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Christina: Also, if you want to know more about toilet paper, we did an episode about what, the many conspiracies of why toilet paper.

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Christina: Besides hysteria, there are other reasons.

Jack: Yeah, there's definitely way more going on there. So if you're interested on that, you could go check that out. But the shortages of toilet paper were so global, they hit all the major locations in the world, predominantly. So we're talking Hong Kong, Australia, United Kingdom, United States. Big, giant, f****** colossal places.

Christina: I'm happy it wasn't just United States. It would be embarrassing if we were the only country.

Jack: I think it started in Australia.

Christina: Really?

Jack: Yeah. I think we were the followers in this instance.

Christina: I don't know what's worse. No. I think it's a little better than if it was just us and we were the only ones.

Jack: But it feels like something very American.

Christina: Yes. Yes, it does.

Jack: It does. Feels like something only United States people know about. Anyways, on March 6, to change the tone. To change the tone of people, you know, a pandemic murdering people, because that's crazy. And people fighting each other like zombies over toilet paper and mass death happening. Will look in this other direction. At March 6, 21 passengers on a California cruise ship test positive.

Christina: I don't know how that's more positive, like, good news compared to the horrible news. You just Said you made it sound like they're positive.

Jack: 21 positive people. That's better than 21 negative people. Not really. Isn't it weird? Why don't we say negative, you're negative.

Christina: Because negative is negative. Or it feels like it's weird that.

Jack: Negative means positive and positive is negative.

Christina: I. Whatever.

Jack: You're infected, you're positive, which is a negative thing. Yes, you're negative, which is a positive thing. Yeah, that's weird.

Christina: That is weird. That's how it works.

Jack: Point being, 21 passengers in a California cruise ship test positive. Those people weren't gonna see home in a long time. They were gonna have a bad time. March 9 rolls by. Italy places 16 million people in quarantine.

Christina: They got a lot of people now.

Jack: We're getting into harsh territory, though. 16 million people in quarantine, more than a quarter of its population. In a bid to stop the COVID What? Yeah. A day later, the quarantine expands to cover the entire country. That 25% means nothing because a hundred percent goes into lockdown.

Christina: Crazy. Wow, that's crazy.

Jack: 16 million people was a quarter. So we're talking 68, 68, 64. 64 million people in quarantine. Yep.

Christina: That's even more people. Yes. We're dealing with millions.

Jack: Whole country on lockdown.

Christina: Whole country. Yep.

Jack: That's crazy. Then we have March 11th. Finally, the people who bought all the toilet paper get what they were hoarding toilet paper for. The COVID virus is titled a pandemic.

Christina: Are you sure it wasn't. It was titled a pandemic, and then people started getting toilet paper. Do you remember the order?

Jack: Yeah, it was definitely before.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, it was definitely the anticipation. People were doing it ahead of lockdowns.

Christina: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. It was before lockdowns. I remember that.

Jack: Okay. Yeah, yeah. And then on the 13th, Trump declares COVID 19 a national emergency. Kind of late, buddy, but it's all right. On the same 13th, all travel from Europe stopped into the US no more. We don't want no more Europeans here.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We're banning everybody's travel, essentially. And then California becomes the first state to issue a stay at home order, which failed.

Christina: Did it fail at the beginning?

Jack: It was fine at the beginning. It helped.

Christina: It did help.

Jack: Yes. It worked. It brought it way down and for a way long time. They were the first place to have a bunch of people. But there. A bunch was in the low, like the double digits.

Christina: Okay.

Jack: They had double. I remember following it. There was one here. There's two there. There's Three.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: It wasn't like overnight. There's thousands.

Christina: But it's like that now.

Jack: Yeah, it's like that now. They managed to fight it off at the beginning, then they opened up and s*** hit the fan. And we discover by the 31st that COVID 19 could be transmitted through the eyes.

Christina: I'm not sure what that means.

Jack: It means that, like, you can cry.

Christina: On someone and then they get Covid.

Jack: No, we're saying that it's no longer just you covering your mouth and your nose. If there is air particles that have the virus in it and that lands on your eye, you have now contracted the COVID Oh, yes.

Christina: Do glasses help at all?

Jack: No, they'll help from the front, I guess.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But there's like quite a bit of opening. So I guess with glasses you have more protection than somebody without.

Christina: Yeah, like a 5% or some low.

Jack: Percentage, some added protection, but without like full gauze goggles blocking your face.

Christina: Why hasn't that become a popular thing?

Jack: I don't know. We could barely handle masks because this is America. So. Yeah, by now we have global lockdowns and hundreds of thousands of businesses go out of business and people go homeless. Schools close, airports close. Travel is globally banned. And around the same time, we have the stock market beginning to crash because nobody's driving. Oil prices drop, stock prices drop in the Dow Jones hits below low anything.

Christina: It'S ever hit in history.

Jack: In history.

Christina: Well, it's pretty crazy month.

Jack: Yeah.

Christina: S***'s starting to get real related, but it's pretty crazy.

Jack: Yes. The domino effect of COVID is crazy. The right at the beginning s*** was real.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: And people went into panic hard. A lot of people thought it was.

Christina: Like the end and somehow it's not.

Jack: It's never the end. We're f****** cockroaches.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Nothing's gonna f****** kill us. But we end March at 800,000 to enter April. So April 27, South Korea told CNN that despite speculation Kim Jong Un, who was expected to be dead because he was ill, was actually alive. So basically, conspiracy theories.

Christina: There's so much conspiracy theories about whether he was really alive or not, because they were saying he was, but no one's seen him.

Jack: Nobody saw him for a while because he was ill. They thought he might have. The one of the things. It was the possibility the virus made it into the country, which it still hadn't because they're so f****** locked down and cut off from the rest of the world.

Christina: Yeah, I can't imagine that. But even if they did, we would.

Jack: Never know yeah, but eventually it did made it in. It did make it in.

Christina: It didn't make it.

Jack: Yeah, it made it in one way or another. I don't remember how the f***. But that's not even it, because we also start getting into sketch territory when the Pentagon releases videos that they have taken into classified files of UFOs before. They. If you remember a couple of years ago, there was one 2017, this one 2019, and one in 2006 or something. All these videos that they kept collecting, saying we were gonna find out what they are. Those are just, you know, planes.

Christina: This is the time they say, we don't know.

Jack: Yeah. They release all three of them and they're like, we don't know what any of this is. None of our enemies, none of our allies have anything we're seeing here. We can't tell you what it is. Society, it's yours. You figure it out. Yes, but people are so panicked because the virus, that s*** just disappears. Like two days later, we forgot about it. Like aliens. Yeah. Yeah, but the virus is here now. Yeah, you should have showed us this, like, last year.

Christina: But we were showed this last year. Oh, but they didn't say anything, I guess. Does that make a difference?

Jack: Yeah, we saw videos, but nobody was like, it wasn't an official government message saying, this is some crazy s***, guys.

Christina: Yes. Oh, Trump's cures. He gives us some crazy cures that month. One of the cures was disinfectant. Like maybe we could put that in our bodies.

Jack: Oh, yeah, Yummy. Bleach.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Inject bleach right into your veins, bro. That's the solution.

Christina: And the other was using very powerful light.

Jack: Yeah, ultraviolet light. So the theory here is he is assuming that we're so advanced he has way hopes for us, that we can somehow capture photons, put enough of them together without them phasing through things for us to, I guess, theoretically inject the photons of light into our body or shine light through us to kill it, the virus. So, yeah, those are some of Trump's lovely cures. Cures.

Christina: I thought those were amazing.

Jack: So, April, another particularly tame month that took place. It was kind of like February, where March was the giant spike in chaos. February, pretty tame. January was kind of chaotic. It began strong and then kind of came down for February, went way the f*** up for March, and then we get to April and we're back to just normal year, minus the fact that the virus was spreading like f****** wildfire that whole time. But at this point, we were dealing with it for A month globally.

Christina: We're bored of it.

Jack: We're bored of it already. We're getting used to. We're like, whatever.

Christina: Mm.

Jack: And so some people get chill and start to do things they were doing before the lockdowns happen. And the virus started spreading in those little pockets where people were like, I don't give a f***. And the spread got so vicious, eventually we ended up at 3 million infections coming from the previous month's 800,000.

Christina: And what's the jump from 8,000? I mean, 800,000 to 3 million.

Jack: That's roughly, what, like, four times over?

Christina: It's. It's going up there.

Jack: It's. We're climbing some heights. We're climbing some heights. But then we enter May. And May is relatively boring through the month. It's casual boring. We're just bouncing off of. We've got crazy numbers happening, virus wise. But other than that, the month goes relatively fine. Very quiet. Everybody's scared because of the virus. We're just learning how to function with it. And then the other shoe drops. It was May 25 when a black, unarmed man was put on the ground. And with the four officers present, one of them, their knee on this man's neck, he is left to die without being able to breathe. While caught on video, the death of George Floyd, which seemed like just another black guy being killed by a white officer, another unarmed black man being killed by another white officer, abusing power. But there were a couple of things that made this situation different than the others.

Christina: What was that?

Jack: We had three cops, aside from the guy who was leaning on him, visible. They were all present, doing absolutely nothing, saying nothing, while a man is saying he's dying. Other times, you have cops on top of the person, handcuffing them, putting them. No, this guy wasn't even being handcuffed. He was just being held on the ground.

Christina: He was just being murdered.

Jack: He was just being murdered. There was nothing else happening. It was being recorded from several different angles, so it could not be disputed. And the view of the victim was clear. It wasn't hard to see. They could just zoom in on the phone. The shot was perfect. And you can see a man die slowly. Very, very slowly, unarmed, for no reason.

Christina: But that was the last straw for.

Jack: But that was the straw that broke the camel's f****** back, bro. Yes, it piled on for the last 200 years.

Christina: That was it.

Jack: And that was the one that was like, one too many. Come the very next day, May 26, Minneapolis is stormed by so many g****** protesters. People were coming from Other states to protest.

Christina: Wow.

Jack: Minneapolis became crazy. It became the largest protesting site ever. Streets were flooded, hundreds of Thousands of people. May 27th. Contagious. Not only are we dealing with a contagious virus that seems to have gone on break towards the end of f****** May for whatever reason, but nationwide police brutality protests. Cities all over the country began to protest because of the same s*** that keeps happening.

Christina: And then the police solved these problems.

Jack: Yes.

Christina: By assaulting protesters 100%.

Jack: The police solved their police brutality problem or attempted to do so with police brutality. You guys think we're being vicious. We're gonna beat you with sticks, shoot you with rubber bullets, hit you with tear gas, and push you forcefully out of where we deem our control territory.

Christina: They proved them.

Jack: They proved the protesters wrong. This is America. But that didn't go too well. That solution to peaceful protesting where we're gonna basically assault you guys for exercising your right to protest, which is an amendment right. So they're basically having their amendments violated by having people, police officers, assault them. Come the 28th, those protests evolved into riots. Minneapolis is now classified a hostile territory because there is a literal war happening between protesters, of which some picked up arms and police officers. Now we have a country that's teetering on the brink of collapse.

Christina: Mm. This is just the last four days of May.

Jack: Yeah. This is. We're just still f****** ending this month now following this. Because we couldn't just end with the country on the verge of collapse over race war and the death. The increasing death based on a virus that's sweeping the country. But. But right around this time, Japan decided we're gonna release the Murder Hornets Attack America.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Which are fully trained bees the size of cars that fly in and eat all the other bees to steal their nests and replace Americans.

Christina: Replace where we get our honey. That's the end of honey. That's the end of our flowers. That's the end of a lot.

Jack: Maybe they make honey.

Christina: Are you sure about that? I thought that's why we don't want them.

Jack: I have no idea. I have no idea why we don't want them. Maybe it's because they're f****** the size of cards or some s***.

Christina: I thought it was because they could kill you in one sting.

Jack: Oh, yeah, probably.

Christina: And also they're killing our bees, which we need to pollinate. Yes. I think those are the two big problems with murder hornets.

Jack: Sure. It's not that they're just robot bees programmed like Black Mirror by the Japanese to come and replace American.

Christina: Why are they killing Japanese people?

Jack: Because they're controlled by Japanese people. The crooked Japanese robots. There's hackers out there too. You think Japan is free of hackers?

Christina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, yeah. So scientists launch a full scale hunt for the.

Christina: The hornets.

Jack: The hornets.

Christina: The hornets.

Jack: The hornets.

Christina: Yes. The horn nests.

Jack: Hello, Hornets nests. Then. Yeah, they were worried that they would definitely destroy all the bees and we'd be f***** forever. Anyways, to finish with a little bit of a cherry. The apocalypse is clearly looming. Society is on collapse. Civil war is on the edge. Plagues surrounding everything. For whatever reason, storms are f****** drowning half the world. And down by India and Nepal, a consistent storm, rain and showers and crap that keeps happening over there starts to flood their river, endangering thousands in both India and Nepal. Because this is America.

Christina: That's not America.

Jack: Fair enough. And we end that month having reached almost 6 million cases of the COVID virus. So it doubled, doubled, but it seems to be slowing down. We went. We multiplied by nine first, then by 10, then by four.

Christina: Oh, there's one more thing from Main though.

Jack: What?

Christina: On May 28th, US COVID 19 deaths past 100,000 mark.

Jack: Oh, interesting. So we have 6 million cases and a hundred thousand deaths, which is crazy. And then that's where we get to June. But we're gonna have to do June next time on Dragon Ball Z. No, we're gonna have to do June on the next episode because we are running out of time now.

Christina: Alright.

Jack: Yes. Cuz this year is epic as f***.

Christina: Yeah, it's been pretty epic and sad and very all over the place. It's been all over the place, man.

Jack: It has been. It has been very all over the place. S***'s crazy. But it is what it is. And luckily now we're living in the future. That's way in the past. We barely remember that.

Christina: Yeah, now we got hoverboards for our hoverboards.

Jack: Yeah, we got hoverboards for our hoverboards. My flying car is parked out back. And everything, you know, everything is evolved.

Christina: Which also has hoverboards.

Jack: Everything government is run entirely by black women. There's no white males at all in office anymore. It's all black women. So. Well, different world, man. Different world. That was a long time ago. Kids were born and went to college and have grown old. That came after that year, that horrid year.

Christina: So a few days they just aged.

Jack: Yeah, they've gone through. They've become experts in fields and everything.

Christina: Okay. They're the ones that changed all of our lives.

Jack: Yeah, we cleaned the planet and Everything all right. Fantastic. Anyways, if you guys like conversations of this nature, there are conversations which we touch a lot of the topics here because it's a year's review. So, you know.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: Skim through our episodes, I suppose, because.

Christina: We have great, great conspiracies. Great points.

Jack: Yes. There's so much going on and Covid is a big one.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: So, yeah, go catch up. Go find out what's going on.

Christina: Listen to every single episode of last year that we made. How many episodes are that?

Jack: It should be 52, because there's 52 weeks, minus the guest episode of every month. That would be 12. So there's 40 episodes.

Christina: Okay, so you're telling them to ignore.

Jack: The guest episodes if they're looking for content like this.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: I mean, you can always, always go ahead and check out the guest episodes where I bring on an interesting creator or a scholar and we have conversations about stuff.

Christina: Yeah.

Jack: But yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you want to find those other episodes and things of that nature, you can find them on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Christina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. USCombop.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate the show and if you feel so inclined, review.

Christina: It and let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is incredibly important. It's something that helps us a lot because it tells people about the show. So go tell people about the show. Run outside, aim at a stranger, be like, hey, you. Then be like, look, show. And then hold up like a sticker of ours or something that you made because we don't sell stickers and be like, hey, show. And they'll be like, cool, I'll check it out. And now you made a new friend.

Christina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Christina: Okay. Wrong.

Jack: I'm sure you weren't out there, like, this is gonna be. Be naughty.

Christina: What if the child little me was naughty Garden age five year old. The five year old me, I don't know. She was a super villain.

Jack: She was a super villain. You were just terrorizing people. That's crazy.

Christina: Yes. Were you a super villain too?

Jack: I wasn't.

Christina: What were you?

Jack: I don't know. I didn't exist in school.

Christina: Exist in school? Yeah.

Jack: There was no me in school. I phased into existence right before this podcast began.

Christina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Well, there's. There's so many problems with that, considering I was already a robot in the World War and I was then killed and a ghost. Well, no, I was a normal person. I was alive for 60 years, then died, then got remade with ghost robot technology. If I remember correctly, then that ghost robot was cloned three times, of which I am the third iteration. There's still a second one somewhere out there that didn't get murdered because we killed the wrong person who was supposed to be just me.

Christina: Yes. But it wasn't.

Jack: But it wasn't. And because I, for whatever reason, couldn't tell me apart from me. Or wait, was it me?

Christina: Yeah, there was a version of you that. It was you. There was. There was just two you's. Clones. The you you and the slower you. Because I think he was a clone of you.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. I'm the third clone. There was the original clone who was. Who began the show. He was just killed and replaced one day because talking. Yeah, that happened, if I remember correctly, between episode 211. And 212. No, it was actually both in episode 211 where the first half began with that Jack. He got killed and continued the clone on the second part of that episode with Dave.

Christina: That clone wasn't you.

Jack: No, I'm the third clone who came from the future to kill the past clone and failed. And. But now I'm in the place. But I didn't know that clone ran away. I'm the clone who failed at killing the other clone. Or I'm the one who got failed? No. Am I the second clone?

Christina: Yes, because the one that tried to kill you was a slow clone. He was like. I don't know. There was something. He was special because he was a copy of a copy.

Jack: Oh, my God.

Christina: That's why he confused you with your friend and he killed your friend instead.

Jack: I get it, I get it. I get it. Because I was cloned from the original the way that the first clone was cloned.

Christina: Yes.

Jack: We were both. I'm the second clone at this spot. But we were both. I'm just second in order. But not cloned from the clone. Yeah, the third clone was cloned from me.

Christina: Yes. Then he. He wanted to kill you to replace you.

Jack: Because failed.

Christina: Yes. And failed. And then I don't know what happened to him. He might be out there still.

Jack: Fantastic.

Christina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

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Rambling 113: Santa and Friends

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What’s the truth behind Christmas and Santa Claus? A Christmas Special unpacking Santa Claus and his known associates, in a Christmas Deep Dive filled with criminal syndicates and elaborate heists!

Story:
With Christmas closing in, the clone duo have little time to act in their attempt to slow down the annual child trafficking wave that usually sweeps the Earth. One culprit comes to mind when wanting to investigate a global crime wave on Christmas Day… Saint Nicholas. A well known global traveler. But in digging deep into the history of this man and his corrupt past, the truth about this crime wave and how it’s done is more than either of our heroes could have ever seen coming. The people involved and the atrocious acts committed will be something they’ll never be able to forget. Find out what on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 113: Santa and Friends

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  • How to Become A Saint in 3 Easy Steps
  • Saint Breastfeed
  • Eating Children
  • The Christmas Heist
  • Qanon

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Jack: Who is Santa Claus and are the stories about him true? Is he a magical man? Or is there more going on behind the true story of Santa Claus? Find out all that and more coming up on this episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes, and this show is most enjoyable with the listening partner. So be sure to go find somebody and bring them in nice and close and force them. You always force them. That's our theme. We ask you to find somebody and make them listen to this show against their will.

Cristina: No, we don't.

Jack: I do.

Cristina: You do? Yes. The show where you force people to force people.

Jack: No, I force people to force people. Otherwise their children are in danger.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, yes. I forgot that part too.

Jack: Yes. That's how this goes. So make sure you get somebody to listen. It's a family friendly show. No, it's not.

Cristina: No, it's not.

Jack: No, it's not.

Cristina: It doesn't matter because then they'll get amnesia.

Jack: Yeah, they get them. See, all of this work doesn't matter. Yeah, even the people who were kidnapped, they don't know were kidnapped.

Cristina: Yeah, they'll forget.

Jack: Yeah, all of it. It works itself out. It's kind of a solid plan. There's no victim here. Except the people who don't force other.

Cristina: People and the victim who end up at the hospital finding out that they're our enemy because they end up with cancer.

Jack: Fair enough. Fair enough.

Cristina: So that's two people.

Jack: Only if, I guess only the ones that get cancer. But they were already our enemies. I guess it's really a tactical war move, if anything.

Cristina: Yes. One of those kids that get killed sadly by you. Christmas. You know what that day is for? Celebrating Jesus's birthday. No, it's not.

Jack: Nobody does that. No.

Cristina: It's Santa Claus's birthday.

Jack: Is it Saint Old Saint Nicholas, Old.

Cristina: Saint Nick and Santa Claus are two different people.

Jack: Who's Santa Claus?

Cristina: He's a fictional version of St. Nicholas. But St. Nicholas is a man. You met him. He was a man. Yeah, I met him.

Jack: That's cool.

Cristina: Yeah. He was telling me that he hunts demons. Did you know that? He's a demon hunter.

Jack: I mean, he was a saint and weren't they demon hunters. Thus exorcisms, I guess.

Cristina: But he found demons. I didn't know about that.

Jack: Are the elves enslaved demons?

Cristina: Huh? I don't know. I don't. We gotta look up what elves are. Really? Because they're. They're some type of creature.

Jack: Like what's happening up there, man?

Cristina: With the elves and the reindeers and.

Jack: Talking like snowmen and things. There's. There's weird s*** going on. He lives with like monsters.

Cristina: He's a demon hunter, like I was saying. And I learned about few of his stories from him. Do you know any of his demon hunting stories?

Jack: No. This is the first time I ever heard about it. I always suspected there was something weird and off about a bunch of elves and that they serve this guy. But he's not like God. Unless he is some sort of demigod, which was also a theory as well. He might have been some sort of demigod this entire time.

Cristina: Yes. Maybe all the saints are demigods now.

Jack: Interesting. I actually was thinking Santa Claus this whole time. You were talking St. Nick.

Cristina: Yeah, St. Nick. Because he's the real magic man. Santa is just a fictional cartoon.

Jack: Fair enough. Okay, so tell me about his demon hunting.

Cristina: Okay, okay. One time he banished a demon from a tree by threatening it with an axe.

Jack: Man, we stumble on this all the time where it's just like a guy doing normal person killing things. There's nothing. There's nothing demon killy about an axe. It's just like how you'd kill a person.

Cristina: Oh yeah. Yes. Or maybe he was actually planning on chopping that tree, but someone saw it and was like, no, he's not just chopping down that tree.

Jack: There must be a demon in there.

Cristina: Gotta be a demon in there. Yes.

Jack: Or maybe there was a guy inside on the tree. There was a guy on the tree and he's like, I'm gonna knock this tree down. Get down. And then.

Cristina: It was a leprechaun.

Jack: It was a leprechaun in the tree?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: I don't know. No. Oh, well, maybe that's how he got the elves. He made a deal with the leprechaun.

Jack: What?

Cristina: He. Our elves and leprechauns from the same place?

Jack: I think you're being. I think that's racism what you just did right there.

Cristina: But they're from the same place.

Jack: Oopsie. Did I just do a racist? Like Peter? Like Peter did. Oopsie. Did I just do a racism.

Cristina: Irish creatures though, for sure. No, maybe not elves.

Jack: Why would an elf be a con?

Cristina: Not Be an.

Jack: You're just. Here's. Here's. Look, here's where it's f****** up the name we give. What's in the north is elf. But that's wrong because elves are usually taller than people.

Cristina: Elves are usually.

Jack: Elvens are way taller than people. On average. They're not shorter.

Cristina: Elvens are something else. I don't know what Elvens are. There are elves.

Jack: No, those are elves.

Cristina: So there's two names for this creature.

Jack: No, you Elven people are elves.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: And whatever the f*** is up there is closer to a leprechaun than it is to an elf. It's not an elf. It's not associated with an elf. It doesn't have weird pointy ears. It doesn't have white hair. It's not tall. The only thing it shares in common, it's magic.

Cristina: And if that's magical, at least.

Jack: Yes. And if that's the argument here, then that's to say that leprechauns are just. I mean, elves are just midgets. They're not. They're not like a race of tiny people. They're midgets because it's like the difference between a tall human and a short human. Because if they're all just elves. Santa Claus is hoarded all the tiny elves. Yeah, and made a workshop. He enslaved a bunch of tiny elves.

Cristina: Well, they happily serve him.

Jack: What winner of a war said we enslaved people?

Cristina: Ah, yes. Are they demons, though? Because he would enslave demons.

Jack: Owls aren't demons. Elves are magical creatures.

Cristina: Oh, well, maybe he's like a Sam and Dean demon hunting, where they're killing more than just demonstration. And Santa's doing the same thing. He's dealing with magical creatures.

Jack: Why doesn't he commit suicide?

Cristina: Santa?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I mean, Saint Nick, I guess. Why? Why would he want to do that?

Jack: Isn't the goal kill magical creatures because he's a human?

Cristina: He's a human.

Jack: It says who isn't it?

Cristina: Kill magic powers that were given to him by God.

Jack: Is that the case here?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: All saints are using the power that they're killing.

Cristina: That they're killing.

Jack: They hunt things with powers, not just demons. Yes, things with magical abilities.

Cristina: Because they're not God's creatures.

Jack: Maybe wasn't God. Wasn't. Weren't vampires God's creatures?

Cristina: No. That's what you get if you don't believe in him.

Jack: I thought people got punished and turned into vampires.

Cristina: Yes, that too.

Jack: By God.

Cristina: By God himself. No, I think it's by the church.

Jack: So you Tell me. The church has power independent of God?

Cristina: Yes. Well, they were given to, I guess. Yes. Okay. They were given to the powers by God to turn people into demons and then have the power to kill those demons that they turned them into.

Jack: Sounds right.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Seems legit.

Cristina: It's a very confusing story, but it's the truth. So I wonder, then that business of exorcism, then.

Jack: It's a setup.

Cristina: Yeah. They have the power.

Jack: It's a setup.

Cristina: Give people demons in them and then they could just take them out because they have that power too. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Yep. We uncovered it. It was a setup.

Cristina: Did you know that? What?

Jack: I just figured it out right now with you.

Cristina: Yes. That's so crazy. Now we know he also resurrected a boy who was strangled by a demon.

Jack: Which he hired a demon.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And then they. He made the demon, then they hired him to get rid of that demon. I see a pattern here.

Cristina: Yeah, and he also outsmarted a demon in a wager.

Jack: I feel like he told me that before. Didn't St. Nick do something like that?

Cristina: He is St. Nick.

Jack: I mean, not St. Nick.

Cristina: St. Patrick.

Jack: St. Patrick. Didn't he do something like that? That also made him a saint.

Cristina: I don't know who. Probably. He has crazy stories too, so.

Jack: He has the craziest stories. That's the one saint to beat God.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah, but this guy outsmarted a demon through a wager, and then that demon became his servant.

Jack: Maybe also known as an elf or.

Cristina: Yes, elf. Or one of those many other things that follow him around. Like Krampus.

Jack: Krumpus doesn't follow him around, does it?

Cristina: Well, he works with him, sort of.

Jack: But that's like the devil. That's assuming that St. Nick is kind of like Jesus.

Cristina: Yeah, but it looks like a hairy monster, like a demon.

Jack: Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: It's demon. Like, maybe he beat him in a wager and he was like, hey, now you gotta help me take care of children, man.

Jack: It is kind of a thing. It's like, I already make demons to kill people. Now Imma make you. I beat you. Your job. The children specifically.

Cristina: Yep. You gotta beat those children.

Jack: And he kills them, Right? He kills the children. That's what Krampus does.

Cristina: I know. There's another of St. Nick's companions. I guess his name is servant Rupert. And he's a man with a long beard and a furry coat. And sometimes he has. He has a bag of ashes with him for some reason. I guess that's to give the bad kids. But sometimes he kidnaps the kids, the bad kids and takes them home with him to eat them later or he throws them into a river.

Jack: So yeah, we're talking about Jesus here. He's hanging out with a bunch of killers and like thieves and s***.

Cristina: Yeah, this is his other one. He's kind of like, I guess Krumpus. Krumpus does similar things to that. I know we talked about Krampus last year, but I totally forgot much about him.

Jack: I think he murdered children. Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, okay. He murdered children. Well, this guy too, because he has a lot of. There's like equally good and bad servants, I guess, if you want to call them that. Slaves, whatever. And last time you were talking about kids who were turned into pickles or some weird story. I finally figured that out that St.

Jack: Nick in the barrels where he pickled the children and thus he got.

Cristina: Kids were already being pickled to be sold for as meat because there was a famine. So the butcher wanted to sell them as meat. As I guess non children meat, you know. But Nick found out what he was doing somehow. I guess he knew that barrel was not filled with regular meat and he turned those children alive. Those pickled children.

Jack: And then he ate them. He's like, I won't eat them. Pickled eats them alive.

Cristina: No, he saved those children. And that's how he became the patron of children, maybe. Or one of the many stories. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. So he got his powers by pickling. Got you.

Cristina: He did. I guess he had nothing to do with pickling those children. They were already pickled.

Jack: Well, it's weird because it looked like he was just traveling with kids in barrels or something in the painting that they made. Because the painting was just misguided. It was about a moment and then it got so many iterations that eventually it just became him standing in front of kids inside of barrels.

Cristina: Yeah. Actually that's one of the interesting things I learned about was that. Yeah, people don't really know what he did in his life. So they look at that picture or pictures of him like that and they have no idea what's going on. Some of them think he's a.

Jack: A child pickler.

Cristina: A child pickler. I don't think that's one of them. They. Because they didn't know much about him. He became a patron of so many things. So many random things besides children. He was. He's a patron for coopers, which are barrel makers. Like people who make barrels see him as their saint, I guess.

Jack: The saint of barrels.

Cristina: Yes, barrow makers. The saint of barrel makers. He's Also was a. I think the first one that. Or the most important saint that he was before children was of sailors and fishermen and stuff because of a story that he calmed the storms of. I don't know. On. He calmed the storm in sea for fishermen, for merchants. Yeah. It saved some fishermen. I mean it saved the sailors lives. And they all worshiped him pretty much for that.

Jack: That is weird.

Cristina: Yeah. And they all pray for him and stuff. And on. There's. When they celebrate his life. They celebrate it on December 6, before actual Christmas day, which I think they still had two on that day in December 6th, when they go. They go to church for him and then they go to a festival and buy presents for their children and they give it to their children. And then people end up thinking, oh, he's for children because of that event that just became a thing that people did.

Jack: That makes sense. So basically all the random things surrounding him decided that he's the saint of that thing.

Cristina: Yes, yes. He also saved three soldiers from being executed because I guess they didn't do the crime, but they wanted to kill somebody for the crime and he stopped them.

Jack: Ah, typical politics. Somebody must be punished, sir. But we don't have who did it. Doesn't matter. You see that guy over there? He doesn't look like anybody would care about him. Kill him.

Cristina: What? They were soldiers, though I'm sure they had family.

Jack: Right. Because soldiers today are treated so well. This is back then in barbarian times.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Before the invention of the control remote, the standard for human advancement.

Cristina: Yes, the remote control. The greatest creation. That. In the microwave, I guess.

Jack: And sliced bread as well.

Cristina: Oh. What? Another thing he was known for was after his parents died, he gave away their wealth to the poor. He gave random people, I guess they left their shoes outside and he would throw gold in the shoes. That also became a tradition for kids.

Jack: To throw gold in their shoes.

Cristina: Yeah, Getting like presents in their shoes. Or the stockings thing. Maybe that came from that as well.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. He was a secret gift giver and he liked putting coins in people's shoes if they left them out. I don't. I don't know how it was back.

Jack: Then, but maybe it's like the oriental cultures where they tend to leave their shoes either at a shoe rack or outside of the door.

Cristina: Okay. The last one is he rescued three girls from prostitution. You've heard of that story? We talked a little bit about that. I'm not sure.

Jack: Rescued them by.

Cristina: He didn't really rescue them, but he gave them money. The money that they need to Marry to get a nice husband.

Jack: I guess they were gonna buy their husbands.

Cristina: I guess that's how it worked. I'm not sure. I'm not sure how dowries work. We don't have that nowadays, but I think so it's either you get married or prostitution were the only options for these women.

Jack: Because working was not allowed.

Cristina: Yes, exactly. Women probably couldn't work. So you either get married or you go into prostitution. And I guess they needed to bribe these men to marry them. But he helped them out, so. And I think that's why he's also the patron of whores, of hookers, unmarried people, of streetwalkers. Of street walkers.

Jack: The saint of streetwalkers.

Cristina: No, of unmarried people. He's. He's got a bunch of weird things. Oh, and of brewers, which I guess has to do with that barrel. And people not sure. What is that barrel about?

Jack: Man Satanic loves his child. Based alcohol.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Because they didn't know about the whole prostitution dowry story. Sometimes they. When they had pictures of him, it would have like three golden balls and it would represent the, I guess, bag of gold. Or coins. Maybe Those are coins. People saw them as oranges. So in the medieval times, they thought he was from Spain and he would visit them to bring them oranges.

Jack: Ah, yes. When merchants are struggling to bring you produce and fruit.

Cristina: And guess what? He's also a patron of merchants.

Jack: Because oranges.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: And beer, apparently.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: St. Nick is coming. Children, you guys are gonna get some yummy oranges and dad's gonna get f****** ripped.

Cristina: Yes, that's pretty much. Yeah. The only one that I don't really know is archers and pharmacists. Why?

Jack: Because the barrels could have also had medicine.

Cristina: Oh, and archers.

Jack: I guess archers were also shoved into the barrels. No, I mean, there were kids in the barrels. Why couldn't you chop up and like, pickle the remains of an archer?

Cristina: I guess so they're like just making up what was in that barrel.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And pawnbrokers.

Jack: They were also in the barrels.

Cristina: They were also in the barrels.

Jack: It's about the barrels.

Cristina: It's all about the barrels.

Jack: He's the saint of barrels in one way or another.

Cristina: Okay. Do you remember how people become saints?

Jack: They do miracles. And then a group of hobos inside of the church decide he is a miracle doer in the name of God or something. And they must be really old or dead.

Cristina: Dead. They have to be dead for sure. Yeah, that's step one, be dead, be dead.

Jack: Okay, Step one, be dead, be dead.

Cristina: You gotta Wait at least five years.

Jack: After death and wait, the guy who cheated the system was Saint Nick?

Cristina: I don't think he cheated the system. I don't know.

Jack: There was one. It was either St Nick or Mr. Rogers who was a saint ahead of time.

Cristina: No, he's not a saint. I don't think he's a saint.

Jack: Are you positive the saint.

Cristina: There was some saints that become saints before, like right after death because they, they got martyred, they call it, which is they. They were killed. Someone killed them. So they get to rush past the five year thing.

Jack: So this is to say if somebody has done a couple of miracles and then I murder him.

Cristina: They don't have to do miracles. The miracles they do in real life are not part of this.

Jack: I thought that was part of the rubric.

Cristina: No, there are miracles involved. They have nothing to do with the ones that you do while alive.

Jack: You specifically said in the previous Christmas episode that miracles were part of becoming a saint.

Cristina: Yes, yes, but not while you're alive.

Jack: How do you do miracles while dead?

Cristina: People have to pray to you.

Jack: Right?

Cristina: And then a miracle happens and then it counts.

Jack: So you have to be worshipped before you're a saint. People just have to hold you as a false God. And then the church is like, I guess he's false God enough. Now let's legitimize his godliness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the church makes gods. Gods don't make the church except for.

Cristina: The one main God who gives them the powers.

Jack: Does he though?

Cristina: Yes, he.

Jack: Are we sure they didn't like, then again force this guy and he's like in the basement of the church being in prison and they're sucking his power out to use it?

Cristina: Possibly.

Jack: I don't know, like God is, Is that what's in the freaking the Vatican slot down or whatever the h*** wherever they keep in, like, you know, the holy things that are like, for. They got it closed down like Fort Knox. And what's really down there is both Jesus and God imprisoned.

Cristina: Oh my God.

Jack: While they're being milked for their infinite power.

Cristina: But then how are all these people before their death doing miracles?

Jack: Before whose deaths?

Cristina: Their deaths.

Jack: Oh, they're praying to God. Yeah, but God, his energy is inside of like a bottle in the church and there's some sort of genie guy using that energy. And like I hear prayers for God, but I've got you imprisoned.

Cristina: God, like Saint Nick, he was, he was using something that had the powers from the church.

Jack: Yeah, Church has the power from God. And when you pray to God, you're Really being received by the church antenna of power. And then they're like, send some, distribute some energy to that praying soul.

Cristina: Okay, whoa, that is disturbing. So step one, death. Or way after death.

Jack: Maybe that was actually why it was important to kill Jesus in the first place.

Cristina: For his powers to.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, kill him for his powers. He's more like a man. Other God. Man is other God dead. Did the church kill God to use his powers? To use his powers?

Cristina: No, but he wouldn't have, like. Did he have a physical body? Like, how do you capture.

Jack: Let's look at it like this. Jesus happens. Yes, Jesus killed. We don't have wrathful God anymore. Was that literally God? Did the church literally kill him and just like take his corpse down in a hole somewhere and just. Just milking the energy that's leaking out? Oh yeah, let's put him in a container and melt away that leak. That infinitely leaking energy.

Cristina: Possibly. Because from learning about all these saints, there's a lot of creepy things. Like some of their bodies are perfectly fine way later after their death. Like they don't die. The bodies don't die.

Jack: That's weird.

Cristina: Yes, they're just sleeping bodies. Like nothing is happening to their body.

Jack: Yeah, it's really weird. I've seen some of that before. Like they somehow don't decay or anything.

Cristina: Yeah, there's like one lady, or I think it's a lady saint, I don't know, is in display in a church.

Jack: That's nuts.

Cristina: That's nuts. What's going on here? Is it church related?

Jack: Maybe. Maybe they're just sending Jesus power. Maybe that person is just hibernating until they wake up. A vampire.

Cristina: What if they are vampires? Then do you just gotta pretend to be sleeping?

Jack: No, that person's recovering because they died. Allegedly. So they sleep for centuries at a time.

Cristina: That is so crazy. So you knew about that? That's weird, right?

Jack: Yeah, I've heard about that before.

Cristina: That's crazy. Okay, so step two of becoming a saint is to become a servant of God. Of course, I'm not sure if that's also part of after your death, because I'm pretty sure before you're dead, you're supposed to have converted into Christianity if you weren't already a Christian or born Christian or whatever.

Jack: Do you have to be Catholic?

Cristina: You have to be Catholic. Oh my God.

Jack: Or is it like any form of Christianity floats? Like it could be a Pentecostal, I don't know, Is it the Catholic Church that's doing all this? Yes, because let's look at this Jesus shows up, right? Some people in the Jewish church decide kill Jesus. Then evil God disappears. And we have people who can make miracles happen, chosen by the now Christian church. They change that group of people with the power of God at their hands. Even said 100 years later, we're not even Jews, we're Christian. We're this new thing. We believe and use the power of Christ. And if you want the power of Christ in you, you gotta join the church.

Cristina: Because they actually have the power of Christ.

Jack: They actually have the power of Christ. Maybe Christ is the vessel that directly takes in like we gotta look at it like this, right? Christ was the human form, but he's still God. He's still connected to God. And you killed Christ and you imprisoned Christ. God can't do anything, it's him. Yeah, and you just keep siphoning. God is still alive, but Jesus, God is dead. But his body also won't wither away. It's always going to be trying to come back, slowly draining. Infinite God, but he's infinite. So you just are the other person with God's power, other than God himself. Except God made a one way power direction into Jesus. And because you don't let Jesus come back to life, God can't like reverse the process.

Cristina: How do you stop them from coming back to life? Do they have a stake in his heart?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Maybe they have the same for the saints. Because the saints, even after death do some really strange things like, like there was, there's a blood, a veil of one of the saints blood and it, they say it's dry but every around his birthday or death or something, it turns into liquid.

Jack: Who says that?

Cristina: The church says that. I think.

Jack: Is that like the floating rock somewhere in Israel or whatever?

Cristina: It's a cathedral in Naples.

Jack: So yeah, of course the church would say that.

Cristina: Of course. I wonder if they show it off though. Like look at it today, it's dry. Look at it today now. Oh look, it's liquidy.

Jack: I bet, I bet the church has a bunch of weird tricks like that that it uses to brainwash people.

Cristina: Where are they getting the. I mean, I guess they can get the blood from anything.

Jack: Hard to get blood.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, they just a rooster outback or something. But yeah, there's weird things like that. There's St. Viviana who, her parents died and her sister tried to force her into prostitution, but she refused to. And then they imprisoned her in a madhouse and then beat her to death. But when she passed away, they built a church on her grave. And in the church, they had a garden, and the garden grows herbs that cures headaches and epilepsy, but it doesn't cure prostitution. Maybe like no one has. Like, maybe none of them had the thought beforehand. Maybe you got to go there thinking like, should I go prostitute? And then you eat the herb and you're like, nah, I'm cured.

Jack: I now have money. I don't need to prostitute. Thank you. Fruit?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or herb.

Cristina: Thank you. Herb. Yeah. Mm. So there's a lot of strange things. Step 3 Show proofs of a life of heroic virtue, which I guess is like St. Nick donating all his parents money to the poor. That was pretty heroic, I think. Maybe, I don't know.

Jack: Now can I walk into a town that I've never been at before? And then when somebody talks to me, I'm like, oh yeah, man, I got just done dedicating my life to helping other people and doing only but good. Flash back to what my life was really like. I burned entire towns and slaughtered families everywhere, raping and killing everybody I ever saw. But then I made it to this town, I'm like done with it. And then I'm in that town, I'm like, nah, I've always done good things. And there happens to be Catholics. Do they still, like, they're just going on my word at that point?

Cristina: No, they have to investigate.

Jack: How would they find it? How long ago are we talking?

Cristina: I don't know. It just says that they investigate the person's life and the writings for evidence of what they're looking for.

Jack: So if I got no proof, then I can't be a saint.

Cristina: Yeah, like you got to have that horrible life killing people, but then you really did change your life around and help people. You might become a saint, who knows?

Jack: But I didn't become a good person.

Cristina: No, no, no, I know, like you can't, you can't if you didn't. If you're just lying to them. But if a person did kill a bunch of people but then changed their life around and was only good, they could possibly become a saint.

Jack: That makes sense. Seems legit.

Cristina: Yes, that's. And then step four is a miracle that happens after you pray to this person that's wanna be a saint. The Saint Nick, Whatever.

Jack: So dear Saint Nick, bring me presents or children inside barrels.

Cristina: Yes. And then he gives it to you, and then that's proof that that person is already in heaven, man.

Jack: Okay, okay. So people prayed to St. Nick and their prayers came true, but he was considered the saint of children in barrels, essentially.

Cristina: Children. Barrels are a separate thing. It's not children in barrels. It's children and barrels.

Jack: But the combo is the only way he gets his power. No, out children being exclusively put in a barrel. He's powerless.

Cristina: No, it's separate. It's totally separate. And then the final thing to become a saint is just to have another miracle.

Jack: So two miracles?

Cristina: Yes. One is to prove that you're in heaven, and the second is to prove that you're holy.

Jack: The one that proves you're in heaven doesn't prove you're holy. Is this to say you can be.

Cristina: Or I guess that you're already holy. That you're. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, I guess it's both the same, right? I don't know. Okay, whatever. Two miracles after your death. It's not that crazy of steps. Maybe one day you will do this after your death. Who knows? What if someone tries to make you a saint? That'd be crazy.

Jack: That'd be awesome. Super epic. I want a bunch of worshipers.

Cristina: But you have to actually dedicate your life to Christianity eventually in your life.

Jack: No, I'm gonna cheat the system. I'll make it work. I'm gonna get that guy who made Heisenberg the fake paperwork, make him make me a bunch of fake religious paperwork.

Cristina: How is that gonna work out? They're gonna find out they got the money. You have investigators.

Jack: I have the queen on my side.

Cristina: No, you don't. She is one of their investigators.

Jack: What, the queen couldn't investigate.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: She's busy running the world.

Cristina: And that's part of the world that she runs. She investigates saints.

Jack: No, she doesn't. She appoints them.

Cristina: She appoints them. What does that mean?

Jack: She's like, you're a saint now.

Cristina: She points at them.

Jack: Yeah, she says, you're a saint now. You're a saint now you're the Pope. Now. You're a saint, now you're a priest.

Cristina: I think we talked about this in the werewolf episode, but there's a saint for the fear of werewolves.

Jack: Now you pray to him to get the fear of werewolves away, or you get the werewolves away. He's like, I'm scared of werewolves. I can. I can work with that Here. Now you're not afraid of werewolves. But it's like, do you see anti werewolf. There are werewolves outside my door. What do I do? Well, I can take your fear of dying by werewolves away. If that. Like, I could do that part.

Cristina: I don't know. Yes. St. Herbert, the werewolf protector, can you.

Jack: Get rid of the werewolves. No. I can stop you from being scared of the way you're about to die.

Cristina: Yes. Then there's also St. Patrick. I don't know if he has anything to do with being. Praying for him for werewolves, but I just remember that we talked already about one of these stories. But there's two stories involving werewolves. Which one was St. Patrick's turn a king into a werewolf as some type of punishment.

Jack: Seems legit.

Cristina: And then also he turned a tribe into werewolves. Every seven years, they have to be a werewolf, and then seven years they're normal. And then back to werewolf to normal every seven years.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Oh, no. They had a disagreement.

Jack: Man, he. He really did abuse the power of God. But God wasn't gonna do anything because he would just stand up and be like, God, don't make me.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And God would be like, no, no, I'm good. I'll do it.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. He's. He. He can do whatever. I guess he runs this world.

Jack: Yeah. He has that free ticket. He has to be immortal. God is like, sure, yeah.

Cristina: So crazy. Then there's Saint Gills. He is the saint of the fear of breastfeeding. He was a hermit living in a cave, and he kept himself alive for several years drinking milk from a deer.

Jack: I thought that was going to go a whole other direction. I thought he was in a cave. He was in a cave with a female. And he's like, look, we have to stop you from losing that milk because I'm going to die.

Cristina: Nope, Nope. But if you have. You're in a life or death situation, and your only way to live is to drink some breast milk from an animal. You can pray to him. If you're having trouble doing it, you.

Jack: Can pray to get that. That deer lactating.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, my gosh. Well, yes, there's that.

Jack: Fantastic.

Cristina: Well, there's. He's not the only amazing.

Jack: But like, wait, could a mom who's struggling to breastfeed her baby pray to him?

Cristina: Yeah, probably. It says fear of breastfeeding.

Jack: Oh, wait, it's the fear of breastfeeding.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're so specific. Why couldn't he just be the saint of breastfeeding? So he deals with every part of breastfeeding?

Cristina: I think he does deal. It's probably breastfeeding. But you don't want to just say breastfeeding. So maybe fear of breastfeeding makes it sound better. I don't know.

Jack: I think it's just for people who are scared of breastfeeding. Now you're less scared about breastfeeding? Yeah, that's it.

Cristina: I don't know. Then there's St. Arnath, who's the saint of beer.

Jack: No, that's wrong.

Cristina: He's the saint of beer.

Jack: He's not.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: Because St. Nick is the saint of beer.

Cristina: They're both. But this guy, he actually. I don't know, he didn't really do anything. He gave people beer when they had a. They had a long journey and they needed beer, and he gave them beer.

Jack: Nobody's ever needed beer. They wanted beer. They really wanted beer.

Cristina: They have survived without the beer. They're gonna die.

Jack: I feel like a larger number of them died because beer would dehydrate them way sooner.

Cristina: Well, they feel like he saved their life with his beer. Maybe his beer was of magic. Magic beer that kept them alive through the long journey.

Jack: So St. Nick can't be the saint of beer because this one time a different saint killed a bunch of people with beer.

Cristina: They're both the saints of beer. Wait, did we say.

Jack: No, St. Nick is the saint of children in barrels.

Cristina: In barrels and barrels in barrels. And. And he's saying, oh, brewers, not beer. The people who make the beer. It's totally different.

Jack: So that's to say that saints aren't the saint of all things related to the subject.

Cristina: Yes, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: Like, you don't pay pray to St. Nick when you want beer. You only pay to St. Nick when you want the beer harvest to go well.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: Or the people who make the beer to be fine.

Cristina: Do it right. Oh, yes.

Jack: Or to do it right.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: But if you're like, man, if I only had a beer, I pray to this guy.

Cristina: To Saint Arnuff. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Then there's Saint Farce, who's the saint of people with STDs.

Jack: The AIDS pandemic of the 80s when the government was driving around in bed handing people aids. The guy who was driving the truck.

Cristina: He had a magic spade to cut down trees. And then the place that he cut down the trees became his property.

Jack: And then he got AIDS on his property.

Cristina: No. And then he made a hospice, and he cured people by touching them inappropriately, Maybe. Except for women, because women were banned.

Jack: So he would jerk guys off, they would leave. Like, I feel better, I guess.

Cristina: He could heal blindness, leprosy, tumors, all by touch, including venereal diseases.

Jack: So he would jerk people into. He would jerk people healthy.

Cristina: He would jerk people healthy. I don't know. He was just touching them.

Jack: No women. I don't want my fingers up in anything. I want tight grips. And you will feel better.

Cristina: And they did.

Jack: And they did. He wasn't wrong. He was intuitive. Yeah. And they're like, I see the demons.

Cristina: Coming out, but why not women? Like, would his magic not work for women?

Jack: Why would he want to touch a woman? He clearly has a proclivity towards penises.

Cristina: Did God tell him to do that, though? Or he decided he dedicated his life.

Jack: To God and then jerk guys off? What's hard to understand?

Cristina: Okay, okay. Rupert walks with a limp because of a childhood injury. And his clothes is dirty and his face is dirty because he collects soot from the chimney when he comes down it. I guess he comes down in person. Then Santa Claus, I'm not sure. Like, he makes it clean. And then Santa comes down so he can look all pretty and red.

Jack: I think he just uses his chimney to kidnap children and by default cleans it.

Cristina: Not intentionally, but St. Nick is fine. He has to come down there. Like him, right? I don't know.

Jack: Does he magically come through?

Cristina: It depends on the story, I guess. There's two things that they do. Either they ask the children if they know their prayers, and if they do, they get rewarded. If they don't, they get punished. There's also a talent show that they might have to do, which if they perform well at dancing or singing, they get a present. If not, they get tortured.

Jack: That's f*****.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. But, like, that's better than being me and alive.

Jack: But it's like, what if you're an untalented kid but a great person? Too bad you die today.

Cristina: Yes. That's pretty much like either you had you were bad throughout the year, you performed badly in your dance, or you don't know your prayers, you're being punished.

Jack: Sounds about right. Sounds old testimony then.

Cristina: In Germany, St Nicholas has a partner named Bels Nickel. He is a man who wears fur which covers his entire body. But he's not an animal. He's just a person wearing fur. Entirely. I don't know. And sometimes he wears a mask with a long tongue. It sounds like a man dressed like a demon. I don't know. Instead of saying, he's a demon, he's just a man who dresses up like a monster, and he's the one that gives them coal if they're bad. I guess that's all he does. He's not as awesome as the other guy. He just dresses up in a furry coat and a weird mask. Also, there's another of St. Nicholas's companions servants. It's called Black Pete.

Jack: Was Black Pete a black guy?

Cristina: Yes. Yes, he was. How they like to portray him is a person wearing blackface, wearing exaggerating red lipstick and having a nappy wig with colorful clothing and golden earrings.

Jack: Is that how he's portrayed? Or is he actually just a white guy that lives as a black guy and hangs out with St. Nick?

Cristina: I'm not sure. It could be either or I don't think.

Jack: Is Santa just hanging out with a dude in permanent blackface?

Cristina: He might be, yeah. So his servant, Black Pete, what does he do? Oh, he also abuses the bad kids. Or he used to. He used to abuse them, but in recently they garrided the punishments and now he's become a friendly character.

Jack: He's PC now?

Cristina: Yeah, he's PC. And also people can't dress up as him anymore.

Jack: Black people can.

Cristina: I don't know, but that's. And the Christmas elves that we talked a bit about. Do I know anything about the Christmas elves? I can't remember. They come from Norse mythology and they're referred to as hidden folks because. I don't know, they like to hide. They're the guys that steal your socks, maybe. Are those elves?

Jack: I don't know. I think so.

Cristina: Oh, maybe.

Jack: No, I think those are leprechauns, actually. No, something like that.

Cristina: Wasn't it gnomes? People are really concerned about these elves, though.

Jack: So North Pole gnome. North Pole elves, leprechauns and gnomes are all kind of the same.

Cristina: They're all magical, tiny people.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: That Sansa was somehow able to enslave through a gamble with demons. In the medieval times, elves are seen as wicked and often linked with demons.

Jack: How connected with demons?

Cristina: I don't know. They're just often linked with demons. So demons gave Santa those elves? I think that makes sense. Elves are demons or those elves are demons. Yes. Also, there's a Christmas goat that Santa replaced in some country before St. Nicholas in Sweden. The. The Christmas. I guess the gift giver was the. Was given by a yol goat, which. Yol is another word for Christmas, I think.

Jack: Yole goat.

Cristina: The yole goat. Yes, the Christmas goat. So the Christmas goat is a pagan thing. Sometimes it's a man that has been turned into a goat man, but I like to imagine it as just a goat. The Christmas goat. In Finland, people still dress up as goats.

Jack: Fair enough. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah. He usually wears a warm red robe and a walking stick and travels in a sleigh pulled by a reindeer. But it doesn't fly. That reindeer doesn't fly. It's a real reindeer.

Jack: The goat isn't an animal like the reindeer, but rather the steerer of the sled that's connected to reindeer. Yes, he's a goat man.

Cristina: He's a goatman. But he's a Christmas. He could be a goat. He's just a really big. He's a were goat. He's a were goat. He's thought to be an ugly creature and he frightens children while some think of him as an invisible creature. What? No, he's a goat. It's just a goat. He's not an ugly creature. He's a goat looking creature. His goats aren't ugly. Goats are not ugly.

Jack: Yeah, they are.

Cristina: They are beautiful creatures. I think they're beautiful. So most people think Santa Claus is a combination of St. Nicholas and this Christmas goat because this Christmas goat was also giving gifts during the same time of year.

Jack: So people are assuming the St. Nicholas and this goat stories got merged and the Santa came to be.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. Like the sleigh with the reindeer is the same as this. This goat.

Jack: So St. Nick did fusion, but instead of becoming a perfect, singular individual the size of one person, he got fat because he literally became the size of two people.

Cristina: Yes, he became the size of two.

Jack: People the size of a man with a goat.

Cristina: And the Christmas goat receives over 500,000 letters from over 200 countries every year. Most of the letters are from China, Poland and Italy. Wonder how they heard about the Christmas goat.

Jack: The Chinese believe in a Christmas goat.

Cristina: Yes, because reindeers come from Finland. So the Christmas goat must be more real than the Santa Claus if you go by reindeer. Where does Santa Claus live again? The North Pole. Are there deers there? Is that a fictional place?

Jack: The North Pole? There's not life there, I think.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. So there you go. Oh, yeah. And also, Santa Claus has a bunch of reindeers. I don't know if you know their names. I don't know where they came from. I guess it was from a catchy poem or song or something. And then everyone just fell in love with these reindeers.

Jack: What?

Cristina: The Santa Claus reindeers? I don't remember where they came from. All of their. His deers. There were eight. Now there's nine. I mean, now there's probably more than nine because they had children by now.

Jack: But he only keeps the originals enslaved.

Cristina: Ah, then there's Santa Claus, which is also a figure based on St Nicholas, which is also probably where we get Christmas Santa Claus from as well.

Jack: What does he do what's his deal?

Cristina: He's. For some reason, he's celebrated on the Same Day as St Nicholas. He's depicted as an elderly man with white hair and a full long beard, and he rides a white horse. He carries a big red book which records whether each kid has been naughty or nice in the past year.

Jack: So there might be a group of people that work to create the illusion of Santa Claus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, it's a team effort. It's not one dude. It's planning and Monday.com.

Cristina: Yes. There's like four main dudes, a bunch of different helpers, some horses, some reindeers.

Jack: They got transport. They got like planned out ice so that people could get in and out of houses. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I'm a slide down the chimney. There's gonna be a tree to the left. You gotta disable the laser alarm system.

Cristina: Which one of them does that? The goat.

Jack: The one who cleans the chimney. Which one clean?

Cristina: Oh, servant Rupert.

Jack: So Rupert's gonna clean the chimney on his way down.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And he's gonna cut the wires on the alarm system.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then Santa Claus is gonna follow behind while Rupert keeps everybody distracted. Well, the other guys are in the microphone and the goat is waiting. He's the getaway driver. He's in the sled on. He's on the sled on top of the house waiting for Santa Claus and Rupert to get back so they can dart.

Cristina: All right, and what is Belsnickel doing?

Jack: Who the f*** is Belsnickel?

Cristina: He's the man in the furry wearing fur.

Jack: Oh, the one who eats the children?

Cristina: No, he's not the one that eats the children. The one that eats the children is servant Rupert.

Jack: Because that's what. That's what's happening here. Dudes going in, kidnapping kids. There. Some of the kids are in the bag. So they leave gifts. They kidnap children. Yes, Kids are in the bag. Off to the next place they keep. They got a cage, I guess, or something so they can take the trade off. Is a bunch of people get some material things. But we kill a couple of kids.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so our operation functions.

Cristina: Ah, but we keep it a secret by decorating it as a. We're giving good children.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That's what today's about.

Jack: And then people are outside. Exactly. Because then people are like the. The. The child trafficking market is so booming and dangerous. How dare they?

Cristina: Worse on Christmas.

Jack: It's worse on. Christ knows why. Meanwhile, Santa Claus is everywhere on Christmas, kidnapping kids left and right. Man. Was he who Qanon Is fighting.

Cristina: Qanon is fighting.

Jack: Qanon is trying to beat Santa Claus. That's the truth here.

Cristina: But is QAnon one person?

Jack: The agent that is known as Q is.

Cristina: Oh, okay. And the QAnon is the cult. Oh, okay. Versus Santa and Nick.

Jack: And versus the the Santa. Santa Claus conglomerate. Santa Claus, which include immortal Saint Nick.

Cristina: How do you beat that?

Jack: Because Santa Claus is like Drake. Like Drake, people are like Drake the Rapper, but Drake is a team of people. His name is Andre. Or it's like Billie Eilish. Billie Eilish the person? No, no. Billie Eilish might be her name, but it's a group. It's two people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So Santa Claus is bunch of people. St. Nick is who we're thinking about. Yes, but it's Krampus and this douche and that other douche. And a magical goat and a child eater and some dude beating the people Christmas.

Cristina: But I forgot. I don't remember anything about him. I just know his name is Father Christmas.

Jack: He's who they're bringing the kids home for.

Cristina: No, I guess he's the. He's doing what again?

Jack: He's a ringleader.

Cristina: He's a ringleader. Father Christmas.

Jack: Father Christmas. We have the face. St. Nick. But there's somebody giving orders.

Cristina: I thought Santa Claus was the face.

Jack: I could have sworn you were about to say I thought Sonic was. Sonic is the face of Christmas.

Cristina: Okay, so Sonic is helping Santa Claus. Is he on that sleigh? Is he?

Jack: I mean, how does he hit every house?

Cristina: Exactly. Sonic is involved in this. How is he still alive? His games.

Jack: Immortality. Saint Sonic.

Cristina: Saint Sonic. Oh, my God.

Jack: He was always selfless and he made impressive things happen.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: I think he qualifies.

Cristina: All right. We're saying that he's Santa.

Jack: We're saying he's a saint.

Cristina: He's a saint.

Jack: Saint Sonic.

Cristina: Saint Sonic. Okay, well, that was beautiful. I feel like we learned a lot today for nothing at all.

Jack: That was fantastic. We're definitely out of time, though. Okay, but that was a very educational moment where we learned that Santa Claus is kind of like Drake. There's a bunch of people working to make it function. There's a couple of psychotic saints that seem to have nothing to do with their ability. St. Nicholas is the saint of children in barrels, which we previously established.

Cristina: You made him that.

Jack: Pickled children.

Cristina: You made him that.

Jack: And so if you guys like this conversation, there are many more of that nature. You can be way more educated by going to last year's Christmas episode as well. So you can have a couple of nice episodes to check out in this holiday season. Grab this episode, grab one more episode from the past, put them together, play them back to back, and understand Saint Nick, the Saint of Barrels and children.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Anyways, to learn more, you can find other episodes discussing holidays and last year's Christmas episode as well at the official website, greatthoughts.info, apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok. Uscombopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe and rate the show and review it if you feel so inclined.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Word of the mouth, the most powerful tool you will have at your disposal. You just whisper to somebody, hey, you wanna listen to a show? And they'll be like, yeah, I do. And then you sit peacefully together with some food and snacks and everything goes well.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then you thank them and you're like, thanks, man, I enjoyed this. And they're like, thank you for telling me about it.

Cristina: Now let's subscribe and rate and review. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Boxing Day. I don't know what that is, but that's a holiday somewhere.

Jack: Boxing Day.

Cristina: Yeah, I think they put the idea is to donate stuff to the homeless people by putting the stuff in a box.

Jack: Oh, you mean like Mike Tyson has nothing to do with this holiday?

Cristina: No, no, I don't think so.

Jack: It's not like Mike Tyson's favorite holiday is Boxing Day.

Cristina: Maybe he loves putting things in boxes and doing it to homeless.

Jack: You sure it's not that he's boxing on this holiday? Like boxers all come out and box.

Cristina: Beat up on the homeless.

Jack: Yeah, maybe.

Cristina: I don't know anything about. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 112: Controlling Society

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Who truly controls the country? Is it the People, the Businesses or the Government? Breaking down the pecking order that runs the United States of America.

The duo unpack the structure of society and politics. Between how the government controls the people instead of the other way around, to the overpowered nature of boycotting and cancel culture, the truths uncovered on this episode reveal the dark lies of the country and much more! Find out what on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 112: Controlling Society

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Jack: Have you ever wondered who controls the money, who controls the companies, who controls the government, and who controls the people? Find out all that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So you grab somebody, you sit them the f*** down, and you tell them, I'm the one in control here.

Cristina: Why does it have to be like that?

Jack: I am the one who's in control. You've. Why. Why can't they just ask kindly?

Cristina: Yeah, it's never just a. Okay, could you. You. You might be interested in this. Why don't you just listen to it with me?

Jack: Why would you ask somebody to kindly listen to the show with you when you can make somebody reluctant? Listen. If somebody is already willing to listen to the show, that's fine. They're probably gonna stumble on the show. You need to force somebody who wasn't willing. Bigger audience.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: More people. Those who want and those who don't.

Cristina: Want and those who don't want will probably not listen again or.

Jack: But they heard we got the view. We're paid, bro. Oh, that's how it goes.

Cristina: Helping us out?

Jack: Yeah. All those listens pay off. So, yeah, you sit them down. You're like, I'm the one in m************ control here. I control what you do, when you do it, how you f*** it. I'm the government. From this point forward, you. You gotta listen when I say listen, or I gotta tax you.

Cristina: Then what's the tax money? They're gonna make you pay them for forcing you to listen to them.

Jack: Yeah. If you don't listen. Yeah. If you don't listen, you gotta pay. And then that money makes it to us. We're secretly taxing them. We're part of the government. We were for the Illuminati, I guess. We're not part of the government.

Cristina: We're not.

Jack: No, we're part of the Illuminati. We're like an agency that's superior to the government who's trying to bring truth to the people. The woke. Truth to the people.

Cristina: Who's bringing the truth Us or the government?

Jack: Us. Like, the government wants to offer truth?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Only the Illuminati wants to offer truth. None of these government agencies or political officials are telling anybody the truth. They're all just trying to con the people and manipulate the people and control the people. Man. The man just wants to control you. Man.

Cristina: Yes. All the men in the government, though.

Jack: None of the women though. Just the men.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Just the Man.

Jack: Yeah. Like they're gonna give women power.

Cristina: Then why are there women in the government?

Jack: So that they can con the people into thinking that the people's. It's. It's the red pill. You give them the blue pill. Oh, the government's control. No, wait. The blue pill. No. Oh, s***. That's weird.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because the blue pill is the government's. Fine. It's a functional system.

Cristina: It's perfect.

Jack: And then the people who are like, oh, but the government's f*****, and you're being lied to. And you're a g****** she. Those people. Those people get the. Hey, look, your vote put a woman in office. I guess it's working now, right? And you're like, yeah, I made that happen. And so you ate the red pill. You're like, yeah, this new reality is the real reality. And I'm not a sheep.

Cristina: Still suck. But I'm telling. What, the telling the government?

Jack: Yes. That illusion. I'm in control. My vote made it my soul. Vote changed everything.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's totally not the. Because you ate the red pill, bro. It was given to you by the same people who gave you the blue pill.

Cristina: Then what's the reality?

Jack: The red pill brought to you by the makers of the blue pill. Like, what the f***?

Cristina: Who. What's the truth?

Jack: The truth is the government is shafting you no matter what the f*** you do. The government doesn't work for you.

Cristina: They should, but they're just people, so are they also just hurting themselves as well?

Jack: Who? The government?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No, because they're using tax money to fill their pockets. They're not hurting themselves. What are they doing? They're taking the money they put in into their own pocket. Again, they pay no tax. If you work for the government, you technically pay no tax because you're putting.

Cristina: Away the money that you're getting back later.

Jack: You said any branch of the government gets paid by taxpayer money.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Every branch, all of it. 100% you% pay no tax. By working for the government, you immediately pay no tax. If you're a political official, like an officer, they pay no tax.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Community hospitals, they pay no tax, none of those deals. Those people are all paid by the government. Meaning the tax they pay from their.

Cristina: Check is our money.

Jack: Yeah, that goes back to their own pocket. They took money and then put a little of it back, but they still took the money out of the tax. So while politicians, on the other hand, they take giant sums because they can shuffle the money until it disappears. And it's like, oh, well, we distributed some over there, some over here, some over there. This one went through those hoops to get into that hoop to enter this system that was supposed to go for that thing, but then that thing needed, you know, this, this and that. So we have to break that up.

Cristina: Ozark or something.

Jack: Yeah, you're just like, yeah, it's a giant money laundering scheme where you're just mixing the money over here, passing it over there, moving it through here, it gets over there, and suddenly it ended up in your pocket. And nobody can explain how because we can't follow that mess you created.

Cristina: Yeah, no one's investigating.

Jack: Nobody's invest. And when they do, they get removed and replaced by somebody who's gonna do it better. That's all it is. We don't control the f****** government. No, we don't control the f****** government. You know who does control the government, though? Lobbyists.

Cristina: Lobbyists. That's company people.

Jack: Company people. Company people who go and make laws. That controls the government. Not f****** we. We don't control the government. The government simply wants us to think we control the government. That's the f****** red pill that the matrix gave us.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Yes, the illusion is we're in control, man. For the people who are like, the government works. And no, we don't have to control it. It works the way it needs to, but. But then there's a red poll. The government's supposed to respond to us, bro. And if it doesn't, it's not functional. And it's like, we need to rise and vote and s***. And then you vote and s***. And you just voted somebody from a list that they gave you, but you think it was your list because you voted, but they gave you the list of people to vote from.

Cristina: Mm, sucks.

Jack: Yeah. You're choosing out of the people we prefer. Which one do you want in office?

Cristina: These are our two favorite picks up here.

Jack: Yeah, these are the two people we think should be running on top. Which one of them would you like? Here, here, we'll throw you a choice. And it's like, I couldn't choose who made it all the way up there. No, no, no, no, no. And you know what's weird? How does this even get selected? Right, so we have like the, let's say the presidency. Right? We have a presidency race.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we have people who are fighting, arguing or whatever and debating and s***. When they, they run out of f****** like, oh, I'm dropping out.

Cristina: Mm, right.

Jack: Why are they dropping out? Based on what did they just f****** run out of?

Cristina: Who? We didn't vote yet cuz they already assume they're losing.

Jack: Favored yet, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What you just dropping out cuz someone.

Cristina: Paid them to drop out or are.

Jack: They running out of money? Like I don't. Dude, what the f***?

Cristina: What about all those other people who don't go to the base debates? Is only a two party thing.

Jack: That's weird, right? Other parties, they only want you to see these two people, our two candidates. You make a choice between our two.

Cristina: Candidates and ignore the other.

Jack: Like everybody.

Cristina: 10 people.

Jack: It's like a million parties.

Cristina: Yeah. And they show it to us on you.

Jack: Oh, we don't f****** know who they are. Yeah, they made sure we only know two people.

Cristina: Unless you like dig deep, I guess.

Jack: But how a country isn't gonna do that. They're relying on a laziness of a country. That's the whole goal. They're relying on people being lazy and not doing the homework. That's why they only show you the people they want you to know about.

Cristina: Yes, man. The laziness wins out. That's the whole like people are like going crazy over how this. Most people voted. How did like how has it increased this much? Did people start caring or something and it's like, nah, they got it home. It's easier. It's laziness.

Jack: Yeah. They mailed you the ballot and it showed up on your doorstep.

Cristina: Yeah. And then you just had to mail it out or put it in a box. Like it's so much easier than standing in a line, signing yourself in, waiting some more, etc.

Jack: Yeah, it got done for you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's f****** weird. People are lazy as h***. And that's how the government. The government knows this.

Cristina: That were lazy. Yeah, but aren't they lazy? I guess not. Because they have a drive, which is that money.

Jack: Yeah, the government has a financial drive. That's all they care about. The government only cares about money. Everybody only cares about money.

Cristina: And the lobbyists though, well, the lobbyists.

Jack: Also care about money. They just need the right laws to.

Cristina: Make their s*** work to make them more money.

Jack: Yeah, it's all about money.

Cristina: So the money rules the world.

Jack: Sort of. The lobbyists are ruled by the companies. Usually they are the people who are paid by a company to go do a thing, go convince the f******.

Cristina: Then the companies rule the world.

Jack: Well, then that becomes a problem because the people control the money.

Jack: It's. Nobody owns anybody. Everybody's somebody's b**** in a perfect circle.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It goes like this. The people control the money. The money controls the companies. The companies control the government. The government controls the people.

Cristina: And the people control who? What?

Jack: The companies.

Cristina: The companies.

Jack: Well, they control the money, which controls the.

Cristina: They control them. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Jack: The money flow comes from the people, the everyday people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the money controls the companies.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Companies will do whatever the f***.

Cristina: Like Barry washing us through ads. Ads everywhere. Ads. 24. 7.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. And they need to be on our good side. If we become aware of anything, they have to react and be on the side of the majority. Always. 100%. Jeff Bezos, perfect example. We said he'd go out and shoot somebody the moment that his money was threatened and his money was threatened. And what's the first thing he did? He went outside and he popped the m*********** in the head.

Cristina: He did not really do that, but he did something close, you know?

Jack: Yeah. Somebody said, we're not gonna use your system because you. You. You haven't taken a stance because you're.

Cristina: What was the.

Jack: Well, he hadn't sided with anybody yet. He had a. Like, did he even have a banner? No, they didn't have anything. Right. They made no stand. So black people were like, nah, we're not doing this. And then he was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no. I'm. Pick a side. I'll pick a side. I'm on your side.

Cristina: So you waited for someone to be.

Jack: Angry, and then when he put the Black lives thing, because people were like, well, now's the moment to make a stand. Whoever the f*** you are, whatever company you're running, you make a stand. Or you. If you don't stand with us, you. You're against us. And he wasn't making a stand until people were like, Amazon doesn't seem to want to pick a side, so we're just going to stop using that. He was like, wait, hold the f*** up. I'm on Black Lives Matter. And then that's when the other people showed up. And it's like, you're the minority. Kiss a**. When he. When he released the message in return. Because first it was people boycotting anybody who didn't want to participate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then that's when he was like, okay, banners, Black Lives Matter.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But then the f****** people who thinks Black Lives Matter is racist showed up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they were like, well, we don't support Black Lives Matter, so we're gonna stop using your platform. And then he replied, go kiss a**, cuz you're the minority and your money doesn't mean anything.

Cristina: Yes. That's awful.

Jack: That's awful. But you gotta be wherever the money ends.

Cristina: And that's all he did.

Jack: That's all he did. He sided with money because he's controlled by the money. Amazon is owned by the money. Buy the money. And if the money isn't there, Amazon is garbage. And this applies to every company in the world. Money runs the company and the people run the money. You please the people or f*** your s***. Yeah, but if they can influence the government who controls the people, then they can get a little bit of leeway. That's why Facebook is in deep s***. Because Facebook did not please the people.

Cristina: No. Especially after everything came out.

Jack: Yes. Facebook illegal s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And because it was elite, had Facebook done it legally through the government the way other companies do to always be in the clear. But Facebook didn't want to put out the money. Facebook wants all the money.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And because they didn't put out the money to bribe the government to legislate s***.

Jack: Then it wasn't law, meaning what they did was illegal. And when the people found that illegal s*** was happening, Facebook loses money.

Cristina: But that's because the government investigated it. Because they were like, we want this. We don't want you to have it anymore. We want this information for ourselves. If we just tell the people about this, then it's ours.

Jack: You think that's what happened?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Did the government want the information? The government already has access to all this s***.

Cristina: Well, they don't want it with everyone. They want every company to give them the stuff. They weren't happy that Facebook wasn't giving them whatever, so they did that.

Jack: No, that's not true.

Cristina: That's not true.

Jack: That's not true. Apple doesn't give anybody s***. That's not true by any means. The government would be falling down on Apple like a ton of bricks if that was the case.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There are people who are Apple loyalists and they are dedicated and every penny they spend is through an Apple product in Apple systems, buying Macs and iPhones and this s*** dash s*** and f****** earpods and crap. So if that was the case, Apple would be shafted.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's not. It's simply that the government is ruled by the lobbyists. The lobbyists that did force the laws to get made. There were. None of. None of them were from Facebook and none of those laws were assisting Facebook. And the government needs to keep the illusion that it's following the laws and enforcing the laws. And Facebook did something in plain sight. It was discovered. So now the government needs to keep face and attack. It doesn't give a f***. Pay us and we'll let it go. But now it's in the light. You can't just pay us anymore because had it been law, we would have been like, it's perfectly legal. You got caught, but it's legal. Who cares? But you got caught and you didn't pay us to make it legal. So now you can't pay us. Now you're already f*****. It's in the light. If you suddenly pay us now, it's obvious. The illusion fades and we need to keep the lie that the people control us. So we have to behave like the people are controlling us.

Cristina: And what exactly are they doing, though?

Jack: They're getting. They're probably gonna destroy Facebook, to be honest. But they're making Facebook share its information. That's definitely what is happening. But they're not making Apple share its information. It's not really about the information. It's about Facebook didn't make it legal first.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And Facebook is losing money because it didn't follow the trend. It didn't do it didn't play the game. Facebook didn't play the game and wanted to win. And that's not how you win. You got to play to win.

Cristina: You got to play to win. You got to follow this step.

Jack: You got to follow the step. Facebook didn't pay off the government. The government has no reason to be loyal to Facebook.

Cristina: And we are still in charge somehow of all this.

Jack: We rule Facebook because we're the money. We could just be like, nah, we're not going to invest in any company. And preemptively. People didn't boycott s***. They're just like, we're going to stop advertising on your platform so that we're not associated with your fall.

Cristina: You see, because the people.

Jack: Exactly. Because your partners with Facebook. Oh, oh, really? We'll just stop using your s*** too. Then they preemptively in mass. They were like, yeah. They're like, peace, bro. F*** yo. S***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So money controlled all the companies that were advertising through Facebook and Facebook loses money because it didn't want to play the game.

Cristina: How dare they.

Jack: Meanwhile, Amazon tyrannical destroys everything in the world. This small business is crushed under its weight. But also they play the game.

Cristina: Yeah, that's him. But don't people still have a problem with them?

Jack: Yes, because we know they're schemy, but you can't do anything because they make it all legal.

Cristina: But doesn't the government want to break them apart?

Jack: Well, they think the company is too powerful. There's a difference between the power of Amazon and the corruption of Facebook. Those are two very different monsters. Facebook is corrupted. Facebook is broken. Facebook uses user data and sells it without user knowledge. Yes, now they let people know. But you've already been doing it illegally for so long. There's already a trial about all the time before you let anybody know.

Cristina: They're still going to get in trouble for all this.

Jack: They're still in trouble. They f***** up all the other companies the moment they saw it happen. What did they do? Wait, we're gonna make everybody aware of everything? Every.

Cristina: They were involved. They were the ones. Are they? They were the ones that were paying Facebook for this info?

Jack: Yeah. H*** yeah.

Cristina: Like they're just pretending we had nothing to do with it?

Jack: Yeah, for the most part. Well, advertisers. Yeah, advertisers. Okay, so retailers and s*** like that. Those are the same people who pulled out, the people who were buying the s*** that Facebook was selling. Those are the people who pulled out.

Cristina: Of Facebook, but they're not giving out that information.

Jack: The government, I mean, as plain as day, who were they selling it to? The advertisers. Who were the advertisers? The people who f****** love Facebook.

Cristina: Okay, so no one else is paying attention that they're just boycotting Facebook and out these other companies who left before.

Jack: Well, let's think of it like this. You're walking down the street and you couldn't buy your daughter some shoes. There were some brand new shoes she loved and you don't have the right money and it was $200. You're like, we can't afford that. A crackhead pulls up and he opens a box and he's like, hey, I got some shoes for sale. And he opens a box and they happen to be the right size. The exact shoe your daughter wanted. And he's like, you could have it for $10. Then I get just wants crack. That guy just wants crack. That dude just wants some crack. Just let him have his crack. What are you gonna do? You can probably buy those shoes. Yeah, you can look at them. Is this real? Is it? Holy s***. It is all labels, right? It's in perfect condition. Doesn't look worn. He's like, yeah, it's never been used before. He clearly stole those shoes. But also, who's ever gonna be able to track that? Nobody. You just have shoes now. Are you not gonna buy the. No, you can buy the shoes. Does anybody give a f*** where you found. Nobody gives a f*** where you found those shoes. You clearly own stolen shoes. Yeah, but does anybody give a s***? No. That crackhead stole somebody. He has to go to jail, though. He stole those shoes. He has to go to jail. If he gets caught, he goes to jail. You bought something. The crackhead is Facebook.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You are the retailer.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: You bought stolen s***. Yeah, but like, everybody else would have.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You didn't steal it. You just bought some s***. You bought it fairly. It was stolen. That doesn't seem like it's your problem.

Cristina: Because you could just say, I didn't know.

Jack: I didn't know. We thought this was all done properly. We made a deal that we can have data. They come up with. We didn't ask how you're getting your data. Yes, we were just getting data. We thought, you know, they. They run surveys and this and that. No, they're just stealing information. Oh, I'm so surpr. Yeah, that's how it works. Facebook wasn't playing the game. Facebook's f*****. Amazon plays the game. They play a nice game to the point that they're kind of unbeatable. Google plays the game.

Cristina: Ooh, there's no problem with Google. Google's fine.

Jack: Well, Google people hate that. Google can control its directory. It chooses what could go up there whenever the f*** it wants. The problem is, if you read those.

Cristina: Terms and services, that's what it can do. So it can reserve.

Jack: Yep. It reserves the right to delist whatever the f*** it wants, whenever the f*** it wants, however the f*** it wants, without warning, you use it knowing.

Cristina: And so the government can't do anything about that.

Jack: Nope.

Cristina: They can't just change the laws.

Jack: No. The problem with Facebook is they were lying about it. They weren't making it known publicly. All these other companies just read. Not only that, all these other companies have a simplified version of their complicated contract so that you can read it in simpler terms. If you scroll to the bottoms of terms and services, a lot of these have a revised version that you just click, and it's a shorter bullet point. Usually what they. Well, nowadays, that's usually what they show you first, and you can click for detailed version of it, but they give you now the bullet points. So that people can comprehend it instead of this giant 3,000 page thing. Exactly. So now they give you the bullet point one instead of putting it behind a million walls to trick you.

Cristina: Finally.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So that's the one good thing.

Jack: Yeah. Because nobody wants to be guilty. Everybody wants to play. Play the game. Boom. Boom.

Cristina: And we made that game.

Jack: We made that game through capitalism. We're consumers. It's a culture of consumerism. And so money controls the companies. Companies use the money to pay the lobbyists. Lobbyists use some of that money to control the government. And government changes its laws to control the people so that companies get paid.

Cristina: How can we use this information against the government?

Jack: How do we use this information against the government?

Cristina: Yeah, I guess if there are people who are really like, I need to do something.

Jack: Threaten rich people money. You can control the government if you control the companies. And you do control the companies. So for us, the companies, the problem is people are. It relies on the fact that people are consumers and people are lazy and consumerism is based on convenience.

Cristina: So they're gonna follow that company whether or not it's doing.

Jack: Yeah. The chain can't be broken. It naturally happened. Nobody was like, well, I'm gonna formulate it this way. There's no individual who made the system. System is just customs and behaviors that naturally fell into place and created what we're in.

Cristina: Mm. But sometimes we get together and change things ourselves.

Jack: Yes. When we force certain things to happen. We boycott enough companies, they're like, bro, I'm losing people on both sides. I can't be picking sides forever. We need to legislate some s*** that makes both sides happy so that we can get this s*** over with and I can get all the customers instead of f****** some of them. So we're gonna pay some lobbyists to go and force a law that is just down the middle enough that both sides are happy and my business doesn't suffer. And these are what the titans like Amazon and Google and Apple and all these m************ do they pay lobbyists to do those things that keeps their companies in the center.

Cristina: Yes. So I guess that's good, isn't it?

Jack: Yeah, it is good.

Cristina: It makes everybody happy until we're taking advantage of.

Jack: Well, we're taking advantage of. Because of something we haven't thought of yet. They find another hole, and then we patch another hole.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: There's always a loophole. It's a matter of finding them. Who finds it first? The government, the companies, or the people?

Cristina: If we find it first, then we could do something. If they find it first, they could just. Yeah, create.

Jack: If we find it first and it hasn't been in favor of the companies or the government. The government just listens to the people. There's no benefit or not.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: If the companies find it first, they abuse it. Usually try to put it into law secretly while they immediately put it into play, but then change it in law afterwards.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So by the time people realize it's happening. Oh no, it's legal. If the government finds it, they try to use it to control both the companies and the people. Yes, because the government needs to try.

Cristina: To keep its people. I mean, wants control both the company and the people.

Jack: Yeah. And the. Because what's the benefit of everybody Wants control of everybody.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because the companies want control of the government, but they also want to control the people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the people want to control the companies and they also want to control the government.

Cristina: Definitely. So the government would also want.

Jack: Our three party system is equal to our four party system in politics where we have the president is his own party, the Congress is its own party, the Senate is its own party and the people are their own party.

Cristina: And we all control each other.

Jack: And we all control each other in some way. The third, twice removed is not reachable. So people don't affect President, Congress doesn't affect Senate, Senate doesn't affect Congress, and the President doesn't affect the people. So if we make a box and put them all on the corners, the people opposite to each other, us opposite from President, Congress opposite to Senate. That's the layout. You can't affect somebody you're not directly touching with a line, but you can affect each other in that same way. We can control who's in the Senate and we can control who's in the Congress and they control who's the President and the President can control who's in the Senate and the President can control who's in the Congress. They control Senate and Congress. Yeah, along with the people.

Cristina: So in a way we still. It's still up to us.

Jack: Yes. It's a battle between the people and the dictator for the two people who control the people.

Cristina: And the dictator and the dictator could be either the government or the companies.

Jack: Well, that's a whole separate thing. We assume the entire political system, including the people as part of politics.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Is one system, but people independent of politics. We're talking capitalism and politics as two separate things. So people economics are included with Congress. I mean people economics is included with government and companies, while people politics is people, Congress, Senate, and president and those are separate things. If we have our three party system of the companies, the people and the government, we zoom in on the government. The government contains the people, people, the President, the Congress and the Senate. But when companies try to influence the government, they're trying to influence that entire group. People's thoughts on politics, the Congress, the Senate's behavior with money. And they try to bribe the President.

Cristina: Definitely. Yes.

Jack: But controlling our thoughts on politics is independent than trying to use our money. Because our thoughts in politics is what the government is trying to control. Yes, that's all just part of the government trying to influence us. So it's a whole f****** clusterfuck of things. The illusion that they're trying to portray is that people control the government, that the government controls the companies, that the companies control the money and that the money controls the people. They try to tell us the money controls us. You gotta work for it. Yeah, you gotta work for it. If you didn't work for, you didn't earn it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you didn't earn it, you can't do s***.

Cristina: We start to believe that though.

Jack: Yes. We believe we're owned by the money. We're not. We're the ones holding the money.

Cristina: But that's the. Wait, that's the government telling us that. Or that's the companies that are tricking us.

Jack: Everything is trying to convince us that it's that order. Yes, Everybody's trying to convince us that it's that order.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They want us to believe people control government, government controls companies, companies control money and money controls people.

Cristina: But it's not like that.

Jack: No. The reality is, if we think about it and use it properly, people control money, money controls companies, companies control government and government controls people.

Cristina: And if we knew that, we could actually do something. Although we do stuff, it's just very rarely. That it works.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That we actually like, I guess, bully the wrong company or the right company, I guess.

Jack: It's not that it rarely works. It's that the system is designed to move slowly to take into account knee jerk reaction. You don't want people to have a knee jerk reaction and then make a law out of it. Yes, that's problematic. That's what's scary about Democrats having the Senate two.

Cristina: Because then they can do that stuff. They're gonna have both parties.

Jack: Yes. I mean, the House and the Congress.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yes. If they have the House, the Congress and the Senate and the majority of people are also Democrats. Right now we have a scary f****** problem where the entire system is blue and Everybody who's just reacting to things Trump did are gonna create laws based on a reaction, no thought, pure emotion.

Cristina: That's all he's been doing, too.

Jack: Yes, but he can't do anything. He just looks like he's doing stuff. He tries to make it seem like he has power and people believe it. The people on the right swear he has power because he tells them and they'll believe anything. And the people on the left swear he has power because they hate anything he does. And they're like, look at how horrible. When in reality, half this s*** existed long before he was even.

Cristina: It's just easier to blame him.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Then, like, we've been doing this for.

Jack: Years, but he hasn't done anything. He's done nothing. Everything. Somebody else put. The only times anything really got accomplished in mass, it was when the parties were all aligned. When Obama was in office, it was all blue. He got s*** done.

Cristina: But you said that was a bad thing.

Jack: That was a bad thing. Many, many horrible things happened in that time. That was a very, very bad thing.

Cristina: And right now, though, it's not all red.

Jack: No.

Cristina: The house is blue.

Jack: The house is blue.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: Yes. But the president is blue now.

Cristina: Yes. And everything's going back to being super blue.

Jack: Let's hope not.

Cristina: We're not sure yet.

Jack: Because if the Senate turns out to stay red.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then slowly, only things people agree on will get through. And that's the way it should be.

Cristina: Because that's more balanced.

Jack: Yes, that's the way it should be.

Cristina: Sort of just random stuff going through.

Jack: Yes. And I think the filibuster shouldn't be removed. The filibuster is that thing where one person can stop it if they don't agree. Like a bill going through.

Cristina: One person can stop.

Jack: One person can stop it. And it's like, if they have legit reason.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then it shouldn't go through.

Cristina: But do they at least have to?

Jack: I think they do. I don't think they could just be disagree. Why? Yeah, I don't want to.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: If that's how it plays out, maybe fix the fill up.

Cristina: Maybe fix it. Yeah.

Jack: But if it's. If you really got to explain your stance and have a good argument, then, yeah, I think it should be there. Because if one person disagrees, they are a representative. That's what a republic is. And we live in a f****** republic.

Cristina: And they forget that. Although Biden is, you know, acting like he's for both parties.

Jack: So if.

Cristina: I don't know if that's all talk.

Jack: Or what if a representative disagrees? They represent a huge number of people. You can't just be like, f*** your s***. That's not how it works. A pure democracy is dangerous because the minority will always suffer.

Cristina: Yeah, we should. We gotta listen to everyone, I guess.

Jack: We gotta listen to everybody. And that is a f****** problem.

Cristina: That too is a problem.

Jack: Well, if we don't listen to people. If we don't listen to people, we are faced with a very disturbing problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. The problem is that if you listen to knee jerk reaction and legislate or behave in response to things, you end up with problems. For example, there's actually a perfect example of people controlling companies through money.

Cristina: What's the example?

Jack: If you look at companies who fire people who have been accused of. Me too. Whether or not they have been proven guilty.

Cristina: Just assuming that they are.

Jack: Just assuming they are. Because the people, the louder voices are saying it. And people are paying attention to the louder voices. And we just gotta pick a f****** side immediately so we don't lose money. So we get rid of them. They don't boycott us because we're on their side. But you ruin somebody's life. Think of Netflix firing mad, mad, mad people over me too.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Think of shows firing mad map shows, movies, TV channels firing people over me too. Some of them. Many of them, there was f****** nothing. It turned out there was f*** nothing. Some of them had proof that there was nothing. That they were innocent.

Cristina: Yes. Like Kevin.

Jack: Like Kevin Spacey with text messages showing, I'm gonna tell them you did this. And it's like, why, if I didn't do that?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, because you're gonna believe me and not you. And it's like, too bad that got recorded, buddy. But how many times does this happen?

Cristina: Too many times.

Jack: Too many times. And after Kevin Spacey did it, people got smart and they're like, I'm gonna just record these conversations so that when somebody does that. And now we have several cases where people have proof. They threatened they were gonna do this.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they know it didn't happen. Here's the proof.

Cristina: That's how it should be, though.

Jack: Yes. But companies didn't give a s***. They fire people. And we're not going to rehire because the image is ruined. We can't. And that's in react. That's a knee jerk reaction. That's the companies in a knee jerk reaction to the people's knee jerk reaction. Companies being ruled by the money of the people do it.

Cristina: Yes. But they pretend that we're under Them under their control.

Jack: They pretend the money is controlling us when we're controlling the money.

Cristina: If we knew that we easily.

Jack: Well we were aware of it in these times. That's why we were like, we'll boycott you guys.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's where boycotting came in. Boycotting came as a result of being aware that. Wait, wait, wait guys, we have the money.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess the Internet did help because we always were boycotting beforehand, but not as much as now.

Jack: People relied on us not being aware of it.

Cristina: Yes. Like maybe one town will be boycotting and the rest of the country might not know about or they'll find out really late or something and be over it.

Jack: Yeah, it's just news. Oh, they boycott a thing. Oh for one. Oh, how interesting.

Cristina: Yes. But now it could be the world.

Jack: Because it could happen overnight. Yes. Your company could be destroyed overnight. So you react instantaneously and that's a problem. That's where all these companies suddenly changed their rules and terms.

Cristina: Ruin a company. That's the thing that you don't notice. But you could do it.

Jack: Yeah, you could destroy a company. And now we know it though, so. But the problem is we have knee jerk reactions as people. So now we don't like Sonic boycott and it's like what the f***? Now you're like swinging the other side. You're hung, you're power hungry.

Cristina: Being really picky. Yes. Empower hunger. Oh yeah.

Jack: You know you have the power now. You're gonna wield it like it's a weapon.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you can destroy anything you don't even like on. On nuance. Bullshit.

Cristina: Hey, if it's better though that Sonic one is the only one that's like eh, it actually turned out alright. But yeah, in other cases it's really unfair.

Jack: Yeah, it's pretty f***** up. But on the flip side, they can control how effective our boycotts are with what we're allowed to say when we're allowed to say it. If they can stop us from saying certain things on the Internet. Well we can't have them going to Twitter and saying all this s***. So we got to get lobbyists to go and make lobby for some laws so that they force all our competition to have certain. We gotta censor these people so they don't say certain things so that people don't know. Hey, we can put this s***. We could do that. Or we just censored topics that they think they want censored. We censored things we that they think they want censored. When really it's Benefit to us. The less they can say, the easier it is for us to move in those dark alleys that they've banned. And by putting lobbyists to go do this, we can get everybody to agree to certain terms that prevent the dialogue, that allows to boycott the dialogue. That allows for this type of. Yes, the dialogue. That allows for this information to flourish and destroy our. And that's companies controlling the government for their safety.

Cristina: They do a great job.

Jack: Yeah. Because even Twitter, the wild west, has randomly begun to censor s***.

Cristina: Yes. And Instagram. Oh, stop it. Instagram.

Jack: Well, Instagram is Facebook. And Facebook is overcorrecting because it's been attacked severely and it is scared. The government and the people. It's supposed to be in control of one. And it doesn't seem to be controlling either. Facebook is scared. So, like, we gotta overcorrect in every.

Cristina: Possible direction and just ruin ourselves more.

Jack: Yeah, it's kind of gonna backfire. They're gonna keep kind of snowballing in the wrong direction.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's going to be crazy, man.

Cristina: Twitter is on the same path, though. YouTube is sort of the same way too, of just blocking things for random. You say a word, you're not.

Jack: Well, actually that brings in the. The excessive power that companies. Because they control the election. The company, all these companies control the election. Social media controls the election. They choose what is allowed to see. So the ads, for example, a bunch of companies decided we're going to pull President Trump ads off of our platform.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because they're filled with conspiracy. Even if the s*** he's saying is true, how do you like. He can't. All of it can't be conspiracy theories, man. And maybe a lot of it is true. Maybe a lot of it. Maybe all of it is true. They could just say it's a conspiracy theory and the left is going to agree just because they agree and they're the majority. So f*** it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you reduce the chance. Because the problem is people are confident with Trump in office and they'll say things on their mind that usually the left doesn't like. And when they see it on their platform, the left is like, well, we're gonna boycott this platform now. So we remove Trump and he doesn't get elected. Cuz people didn't see him. He went to the back of people's minds. We push Biden to the front. People like Biden more, they see him more, they vote for him. He gets in office, people stop saying s*** that's off the rails. And they don't boycott Our platform because some a******.

Cristina: So they.

Jack: Peace.

Cristina: Yes. So it has nothing to do with the mailings or any.

Jack: That's them pointing in many different directions. So that we don't look at the fact that they removed ads. They blocked and censored President Twitter's things and Facebook posts were amazing. His ads were hilarious.

Cristina: They were comedy genius.

Jack: Yes. And Biden and his boring s*** all got pushed to the front.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it was beneficial for the companies to have somebody who won't light the flame. Like it won't fuel that fire that.

Cristina: Exists in people who's boycotting the companies.

Jack: Yes. Because people who say crazy s***. People feel confident. They say crazy s***. People like, well, that's racist. And we're gonna boycott Facebook if they don't take it down. We'll boycott Twitter if they don't take it down.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And everybody's scared about their money.

Cristina: I did.

Jack: You threatened the rich people's money. They're gonna act.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And all these rich people got scared. Google, they got scared. People saying s*** on YouTube now.

Cristina: They don't want this, though.

Jack: Yeah. So everybody got they banned together. And we're like, we're with our powers. We're gonna get our lobbyists and we're gonna Earth, water, fire. Our powers combined. We're captain correct the government. And then they went ahead and basically put Biden in there themselves.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that the off the rails s*** stops and their companies are safe.

Cristina: Yeah. Because then there's nothing to look at. Because they could do it secretly without worrying that someone's gonna make a big show about it like Trump would do.

Jack: So they can legally censor whoever the f*** they want without somebody suing because they're gonna put that s*** into line. You know, we could take all the. How much s*** could they just label as conspiracy theory right now? Just take it down.

Cristina: Everything.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like that. Fairway conspiracy. I don't know if it's a real conspiracy or not anymore. They said it was a conspiracy. That is not true of Fairway company. It's a furniture product thing that all the furniture is super expensive. And they were saying people believe that they're selling kids in the furniture, that there's missing kids and the furniture has the name of the kids. They were like, this is weird. Because the furniture without the kid's name is a different price. Like, why is it so much more expensive with a missing kid's child? With a missing kid's name on it. Are they selling these kids? And then all of that's counted as conspiracy? Of course.

Jack: I mean, it technically is. It is a conspiracy, but whether it's a true conspiracy or not is the argument.

Cristina: And they say it's false because. I don't know. It was a mistake.

Jack: Well, actually, this is another f****** program problem that Facebook has. It. Cultivating these f****** Facebook groups that creates multiple conspiracies.

Cristina: Yeah, it was a conspiracy machine.

Jack: Yeah, it's the breeding ground of f****** conspiracy theories. Facebook is where conspiracy theories are born. It used to f****** be 4chan and Reddit.

Cristina: Yes. And those are really private, like people. You don't know a lot of people in those things, do you? Yes. I mean, I guess if you're a part of it, you do, but you know.

Jack: Yeah, like the normal person know s*** about 4chan.

Cristina: Yes, your parent does it.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: They know Facebook.

Jack: Yeah, everybody's on Facebook. That's a problem. It's too easily accessible and it'll get blended in. If you like this thing, you're probably likely to believe that thing. So we're gonna bunch you guys up and throw all of them at you. And now you believe all the conspiracy theories that f****** happen on Facebook. So people, now Facebook, in its overcorrection has to f****** every conspiracy. F*** this s*** and f*** that and take it all down.

Cristina: Same with the news, because everything was fake news. Everyone constantly sharing fake news about just anything. Anything.

Jack: Yep, yep. Everything just proved this bullshit. And they. They don't even know at this point.

Cristina: No, they just. They just share everything. Whatever. I don't know, whatever was popular, I guess. I don't know how they found these things.

Jack: Well, actually that's funny because sticking on to the banning, like Twitter and Facebook banning. Alex Jones messed up when the s*** he was talking about turned out to be true. Yeah, that's the craziest, most f***** s***. And he talked about s*** from like 20 years ago or talked about 20 years ago about s*** that got proven recently to be true and he was just removed. Oh, it's conspiracy theory and blah, blah, blah. And it's like.

Cristina: No, because it's only though. Because one person actually acted out, though, towards it. They did that thing with sort of like Pizzagate where the guy went to the pizza place that. With a gun, I think. Yeah, whatever. Something similar to that happened with Alex Jones where one of the listeners went out and just. They. They would harass parents of a school shootout.

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Cristina: They didn't believe it was true because he said it wasn't true. And like, who knows? But now he's banned for what he said. But because of how the people Reacted from what he was saying.

Jack: But yeah, no, definitely it's. But here's the problem. Somebody reacting to something isn't his fault. But if truth is coming out, that could be something. You could do something with it. Yes, like crazy people react on other s***. Why don't you ban when other people behave random on other crap? How many people went around harassing Michael Jackson without knowing for a fact? Turned out it was true.

Cristina: Was it true?

Jack: I mean, not really. Nobody has definite proof. But the f****** documentary that came out makes it look like it's true.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so people were harassing him with none of this information. On rumors. Those people didn't get banned from anywhere. That happened on the Internet forever. No. Nobody banned them.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: We could harass people.

Jack: Yeah, you're allowed to harass. It's f****** weird, man.

Cristina: Especially celebrities. We own them for some reason.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Death threats to everyone. Why is that a thing?

Jack: And you didn't you think you'd think that the government would. In response to what people want? Because this is back to the illusion. In response to what people want. When situations like this come, you'd think people would just say a thing and the government would do what its job is, which is to listen to the people. But it doesn't. And it doesn't legislate until they get paid by the lobbyists because it should do things. But then people start to protest and people band together and hey, we gotta rise up and we gotta do these things because our rights are being abused by the government that should be listening to us. And instead of the government listening, what does it do? It sends armies of militarized police to get aggressive on protesters.

Cristina: Scary stuff.

Jack: That's the government controlling the people, not the people controlling the government.

Cristina: Because the people don't control the government.

Jack: Because the people don't control the government. They want you to think you do. Hey, go vote. That's how you make a choice. It doesn't f****** matter.

Cristina: Yes. You voted for them to send those cops to you.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: To beat you up.

Jack: Yeah. They intentionally write things in ways so that you vote for what they want. Again, you didn't pick who went up there. You picked out of the people they sent up there. That's a very different election. You don't pick who gets to stand on the podium and debate. You pick out of the people they sent to the podium to debate. That's them telling you you get to choose what happens in this government, do you? They chose two identical guys and sent them to the top. And like, which one's your favorite?

Cristina: Yes. So many. We're just. We're addicted to those pills.

Jack: Yeah. Blue pill, red pill, man. It's all the same f****** s***. But that's the government definitely abusing its rights. It's sending people and abusing its power, in that case, instead of putting laws. When it's their job to obey the people, they completely ignore it. And they do the laws that the lobbyists pay for.

Cristina: Yes, but if we do something, have we ever done anything that actually changed laws?

Jack: I mean, it does happen when we get really aggressive. Yes.

Cristina: When we get aggressive. Yes.

Jack: Protesting is how the civil rights movement happens.

Cristina: Yes. We just need to do that again.

Jack: You gotta get real aggressive and you gotta get scary on the government. You gotta threaten their way of life in exchange through. Oh, you could do it through the companies. Yeah, you got to threaten their way of life through the companies.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You threaten everything they stand for through the companies. The companies will force the government to do whatever the f*** you want. Don't even question it. You threaten a billionaire. A billionaire controls everybody. Don't worry about it. You threaten a billionaire, he's gonna do whatever the f*** you want him to do without a question. He doesn't have opinions. He cares about money. He doesn't have opinions. He sides with whatever opinion gets paid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so do the politicians. Except you don't have millions in your pocket. The bribe of politician, the billionaires do. So you go ahead and you control that billionaire through their company and watch the laws you want take place. That's how it happens.

Cristina: That's how Jeff Bezos killed that person.

Jack: Yeah, he just went out and shot somebody. Perfect example of how this f****** works as well is the problem with the Senate and the Congress that they don't agree right now, but the money is for the people. Do whatever it takes to give the people money. But they're like, well, I don't agree with this. And I don't. Yeah, but the people are the ones suffering. But it doesn't matter because the people don't control the government. It doesn't f****** matter what we want or what we need because the people don't control the government.

Cristina: Yeah. So they could play this game of what? This price? No, that price.

Jack: They could do this forever because the people have no influence on it. Now, you tell the big companies, look, we're not paying any of you m************ until this f****** stimulus bill goes out. Suddenly they'll agree on $5 trillion overnight.

Cristina: We should do that.

Jack: All the things 100%, I swear to you boycott Google, Amazon and Facebook all at once. Say, until we get the stimulus checks, we don't use any of this. Tell me it doesn't take 15 minutes.

Cristina: Before they do something.

Jack: There's so much. You get a $10,000 check every month for the rest of your life. Just because they're still making a million.

Cristina: Need to do that.

Jack: Yes, that's how it works, man.

Cristina: We just haven't figured that out.

Jack: Yeah, it's. It's. People are not willing, people are ignorant, people are lazy.

Cristina: Dumbest things, just the dumbest things get through. No, the whole sonic thing is still shocking.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. People this, man. We don't know how to use power.

Cristina: No.

Jack: That's why the sit. That's why all these systems form. We can't have unlimited power. There needs to be a slow process. Only when a giant group decides unanimously does change happen instantaneously. And at that point, it should happen instantaneously because everybody wanted it.

Cristina: But then. So with the police thing, is that happening then? Because we all together, we're protesting change.

Jack: Specifically in the places where people are banning together in the large enough numbers, change happened immediately, even when the results were s*****. Think of New York. People overwhelmingly were like the police. So they went ahead and removed a s*** ton of police. They defunded the s*** out of police. Crime went way the f*** up. But you guys wanted it. So this is what it looks like now. You can't complain. You asked for it. Your knee jerk reaction. This is what it looks like. Enjoy that.

Cristina: They had to come up with a solution as well.

Jack: Oh yeah, they're definitely complaining now. But they're not arguing for the government that made it happen. Now they're like, f***, we can't go back on our thing. We got to come up with solutions. So community solutions are starting to happen. So I guess it's got to get bad before it gets good.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah.

Jack: So that's the flip side. Yes, crime will go up, but it will go down once they figure it out.

Cristina: Yeah. And that's the important thing. If you don't want the police to control you or the government to control you or whatever. If you want the freedom, it's gonna get bad.

Jack: Yeah. Until you stat. Because it's a new system. You're making a new system.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Figure out how to work, how it works. If you don't know how it works, s***'s gonna get weird.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it has to because you need to remove the government from the positions of power you want the people to have. But it's problematic we don't know how to use power. We haven't had power. We've been controlled by the government for so long. Instead of the government doing what we want.

Cristina: The government. But they're just people. They're evil people. Did the power turn them evil or did the want for power in the first place make them?

Jack: It doesn't work that way because the lobbyists don't pay. I mean, they do pay individuals, but it doesn't work in such a fashion. The only main individual that lobbyists really, really pay is, like, the President. And, yeah, you pay senators and you pay Congress, but you pay them in a bigger scope because they have multiple individuals trying to pass something. So it's about, well, you need to talk to people. You need to make these decisions. You need to get these people to agree. So you're paying a general collective to make moves.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they need funding to do what they do. So it's not that there's somebody like, I'm an evil scheme guy. Money is gonna fill my pockets.

Cristina: They just need money.

Jack: Also, my job is getting paid.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To run the government collectively. We all got paid by the same guy to vote for the same thing. But I wasn't like, well, he's paying me, he's paying him. We're all being paid, so we can agree. No, you get paid by you. Basically, they're investing in you.

Cristina: They're investing.

Jack: So nobody's out there being evil.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Nobody's like, they're just really doing their ideas and doing what their supporters believe they should be doing. And their supporters happen to have a lot of money. And whoever pays you the most is who you work for. Essentially.

Cristina: Then are the companies evil, schemy people?

Jack: Well, the companies are also not evil, schemy people. The companies are companies. Their job is to do whatever profits.

Cristina: The business, no matter what.

Jack: Cause they're not gonna go out and, like, rob people that would profit them.

Cristina: Facebook.

Jack: Well, Facebook is in trouble.

Cristina: Yes. I guess that's what happens. When it does happen.

Jack: Like Amazon does it the right way. You just gotta do whatever. You have shareholders. You have to please the shareholders. You have business sort of setup that you got to follow. You're a retailer, you own certain businesses that do certain things, and you run those businesses accordingly, and you make money in those ways. But if your business is threatened, then you have to make stances and you have to make moves so that your business is not threatened. And the same thing goes for people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: People have to do what the government says so that they don't get in trouble so they don't go to jail, so that they are. They can be out and vote for the certain rights that they want and do this and do that. So every. Nobody's like unanimously doing anything. Everything is a collective of ideas and things influencing each other piece.

Cristina: But why does it look like there's something wrong with it if it all works so well together?

Jack: Because.

Cristina: Oh, wait, that was about the illusion. The illusion is what makes it feel like it's all wrong when it's not.

Jack: Yes. The illusion that they're trying to portray makes it look f*****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But the illusion means nothing. Yeah, that's everybody trying to claim they have more power than they claim and trying to claim. Oh, no, we're the ones in trouble. You're the ones in control. When in reality you control the wrong thing, but they don't want you to know what you control. That's all them trying to trick you. The system isn't flawed. The people in the system are flawed, but no individual is flawed. Yeah, collectives of bad ideas and bad education are flawed.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's pretty much it. I don't know how the f*** we got here, but that was a fascinating discussion. Although we're running out of time.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: Yeah. So I don't have any idea how we got here, but you know what? Great. Whatever. Anyways, we've had other conversations like this on this show before. Not exactly like this one particularly, but related to politics and sociology and human behavior and government and companies and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So if you like conversations of this type and this nature, you can find more conversations of this nature, which I hope you liked. You can find that on the official website, greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined, review it, please.

Cristina: Yes. And let people who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. Be sure to tell people. Tell people about the show. See, there's a difference. At the beginning of the show, we tell you to kidnap somebody, but at the end we tell you there's certain people who are just gonna listen if you tell them. Yeah, but we need you to get those people who don't want to listen first.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then just tell people who are totally gonna be like, okay, I'll go listen.

Cristina: Yes. And then everyone wins.

Jack: And then everyone wins. We get all sides Yep, this has.

Cristina: Been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Sat patiently watching his co host, the maniacal laughs in the back of his mind begin to get louder and louder. He's screaming in laughter, but he stares blankly at her. She knows very little about what's happening in his mind other than what he's narrating for some given reason.

Cristina: Yeah. Why is he laughing? His mind.

Jack: He's preparing himself with laughter. Yes. The maniacal laughter in the back of his mind gets him ready. It preps him for the show. It brings the inner Wade Wilson fused with the Joker, forward into the limelight. For whatever reason, the light is lime. Could have just been a white spotlight, but it is a lime light.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I mean, I guess in old movies it was limelight, wasn't it? Like, the stage light was this weird, like, off yellow. It was lime colored.

Cristina: Was it lime colored? It was just off yellow. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 111: Shapeshifters

The Just Conversation Podcast, Vampire, Werewolf, Werewolves, Monsters, Scary, Terror, Horror, Aliens, Alien, Abduction, Lore, Folklore

What are the odds that all the creatures throughout folklore are the same species? Comparing Vampires, Werewolves, Chupacabras and deciding whether they are all just shapeshifters.

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On their hunt to capture a werewolf, the duo dive deeper into the lore, general information and what creatures might be relative to werewolves. Unbeknown to them, they’d discover some scary truths about other creatures and uncover knowledge that perhaps werewolves and their true kind never wanted humans, clones, the illuminati and garbage sub-humans to know. Find out what on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 111: Shapeshifters

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  • How Vampires are Made
  • Counting Vampires
  • Werewolf Fairy Tales
  • Little Red Riding Hood
  • Permission To Enter

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Jack: Is werewolf just a shapeshifter? And if so, what other creatures has that shapeshifter turned into? That and more coming up on this episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes. And also, this show is most enjoyable. A listening partner to share opinions and ideas on the topics we discuss. So be sure to find some body fancy and turn on something fancy that can play such a fancy pantsy show.

Cristina: We're fancy.

Jack: We're fancy.

Cristina: Yes, we're definitely. What makes something fancy?

Jack: I don't know. Anything around us is fancy.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Things around us are fancy.

Cristina: Okay, well, but they don't know what things you're talking about.

Jack: Anything.

Cristina: Anything is fancy around us. Around us?

Jack: Yes. So they play the show. Yes, they're fancy.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, we make things fancy.

Jack: Yes. Anything that's in the wave range of our voices is fancy.

Cristina: Are our ways giving them cancer? Like the 5G thing? Since those things can give cancer? What can't give cancer? Can our voices give cancer?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Are you pausing?

Jack: Not unless we want them to, no.

Cristina: Okay, well, for now, we just want them to be fancy.

Jack: Sometimes we give people cancer intentionally, but that's just for our enemies who are listening.

Cristina: What? What enemies are listening? We have enemies.

Jack: We have many enemies.

Cristina: What?

Jack: War enemies.

Cristina: War enemies. The cat people.

Jack: Yeah, sure, I guess.

Cristina: I don't know who's our enemy is. I feel like we're friends with everyone.

Jack: No.

Cristina: Yes. Our listeners consider us their best friends.

Jack: Some listeners. Some of them are our enemies.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Well, if you get cancer, you know who you are.

Jack: Actually, they have to trace their cancer back to the show.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: And then they'll know who they are.

Cristina: And then they all know.

Jack: Until then, they have no clue who they are. They're just confused. It's like, who am I? Do I have an identity?

Cristina: What?

Jack: I just woke up listening to this show. I don't remember anything prior to this show. And then they go to the hospital to get tests and they're like, you got cancer. And they're like, ah, that's a double whammy.

Cristina: They don't know who they are and they got cancer. They think they're cancer. Then what?

Jack: Everybody who listens to the show, Their memory gets wiped of all knowledge except the show.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But when they go to the doctor, whether or not they have cancer, they know who they are and whether they're our enemy or not. But if they have cancer, they know they're our enemy. They're like, oh, my God, that's who I am. And also, I guess that makes me the enemy.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, wow.

Jack: They don't even think they're the good guy. They're like, I'm the bad guy.

Cristina: Mmm. And this happens every time they listen to our show?

Jack: Yes. Everybody who's ever listened to the show has immediately gone to the hospital afterwards because of amnesia.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Are we starting something?

Jack: It's kind of like that Pokemon thing where the kids got, like, seizure. Allegedly.

Cristina: Yeah. Everyone got seizures.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: After the news broke out that everyone's getting seizures.

Jack: Yes. It's weird. Dude, that's mass hysteria. For real.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That was in the mass hysteria episode, wasn't it? Yeah, it was, man. Yeah. Good episode.

Cristina: Yeah. Also, the vampires, when we talked about vampires and the history of, like, real.

Jack: Cases, that was all his nuns biting people and s***.

Cristina: I don't remember that. Nuns. I know. Nuns were singing.

Jack: Hold the.

Cristina: No, they were meowing.

Jack: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Cristina: Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Jack: Not only do I have this inkling that Christ was a vampire, but we'll address that later. We have an actual case. Religious vampires. There were nuns f****** biting people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you mentioned that before.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Also in the Mass of Syria episode.

Cristina: Possibly. Yes.

Jack: Bro, were those nuns vampires or werewolves?

Cristina: I don't know. I mean, you go against the Church, you become one of them again.

Jack: Holy s***. There's already. Whoa. There's a couple of crossing lines there.

Cristina: Yeah. The Church is creating monsters.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah, they are.

Cristina: Yes. I don't know, but if you remember from last time on Dragon Ball Z on Just Conversation. Well, last time when I was talking about werewolves, we were talking about two different types of werewolves. We were getting to something. To Adrenochrome.

Jack: We were getting to Adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes. We were getting to Adrenochrome. We were getting to werewolves that turn into vampires after they die, Right? Yes. And.

Jack: Wait, werewolves turn into vampires after they die?

Cristina: Yes. When they die. For some reason, they're. How was it? Okay. When they die. When werewolves die, their human body stays a human during the daytime, but at night, they still become werewolves. But instead of just craving flesh like they normally do, they Crave blood. Yes.

Jack: So. Oh, yeah, I remember that. But does that make them? I guess it does. But that really. And I guess, like we were talking about in that episode, that breaks into the idea that they're sort of two different souls fighting for one body. Or not souls, but living things. There's two things fighting for one body and the vampire is one of those things.

Cristina: And the vampire.

Jack: But the living other thing is dead.

Cristina: Yeah, it's dead. So it's just a vampire going to a dead body at night and turning into a wolf to drink blood. Yeah, that's what's going on. Maybe. I don't know. To solve that the living dead werewolf problem, they would have to destroy the body. The werewolf sneaking into the battlefield was back in Greece in the 19th century. But in parts of Germany, Poland and northern France, dead people will come back to life to drink blood as wolves. If they were living in mortals and evil people, when evil people died, they would become werewolves.

Jack: Drink blood. So there was no. Like you need something else to make you werewolves. Just being a bad person made you a werewolf?

Cristina: Yes. After death, though.

Jack: So werewolves are zombies.

Cristina: Yes. That drink blood.

Jack: That drink bloods of vampires?

Cristina: Yes, But I don't know why. But yes. And then they will return into their human form at the daylight, like the battle, the ones in Greece, I think.

Jack: Fascinating.

Cristina: And they would need a priest to decapitate it and do an exorcism. Like, you know, when a regular demon goes into a body situation, I guess. And then the head would be thrown into a river. I don't know why, but you gotta throw that head into the river somehow.

Jack: That solves the problem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The murder part had nothing to do with it.

Cristina: No. You just needed that head to throw into the river.

Jack: So if the head is not in the river. Boom. Still alive.

Cristina: Yeah. Maybe it'll find its head, put it back on, and then continue on drinking blood.

Jack: So in theory, that body could still move around. It'll just be aimless.

Cristina: Yes, in theory, I guess. I don't know. Or maybe once the head is in the water, the body just can't move. It needs to know that the head is round to continue moving.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: And then new things about werewolves that we didn't mention before was, you know, the normal. They're vulnerable to silver and highly resistant to injury. Except that you could cut them. I mean, I guess that's not an injury you're forcing. You're like breaking them apart to kill them. Oh, those poor people who are. Who are mistaken as werewolves. I guess it Sucks for them. It sucks.

Jack: It goes back to, you know, how do you tell if somebody's a witch? You drown them. If they're dead, they're not a witch. But if they don't drown, they are a witch. So my question is, did they ever discover a witch? Because they probably just drown. Hella m************.

Cristina: Yeah. And the werewolf thing, I guess the werewolf test of, like, if they have fur under their skin, that's proof. I don't know. Well, that's a weird proof.

Jack: Yeah, it's like, oh, I guess he wasn't a werewolf.

Cristina: How many hands were cut? And if you put silver on them, I think their skin is supposed to burn as well.

Jack: Which they've probably also never seen.

Cristina: No. What if a person's allergic to silver? Is that a possibility?

Jack: I wonder if that's a thing. That's interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. How many people allergic to silver has that happened?

Jack: But, like, their skin wouldn't burn, they just get, like, a rash?

Cristina: No, they get a rash. Yeah. But they're gonna look.

Jack: And not even immediately. Not even immediately.

Cristina: How long after?

Jack: It would take a while to have a reaction.

Cristina: Oh, well, they'll wait for that and then say, that's a burn. And in places that wolves weren't a thing, there were other things that were very similar. Like in Africa, there was the were hyena. In India, a were tiger. In South America, there were were pumas and were jaguars. And in Asian countries, they had were foxes. That's pretty cool.

Jack: That'd be cool.

Cristina: Were fox.

Jack: A were fox. It's like a little anime girl.

Cristina: How do you like? So I have to move into one of those places. I wonder if turning into those were creatures are the same as a werewolf.

Jack: Like, you gotta drink their print water.

Cristina: Yes. Or be asleep in a summer day with the sun hitting your face on a Wednesday or Friday.

Jack: Look, man, if you're gonna become a fox. Yeah. You gotta be like, in an autumn field. And it has to be like a half a moon. And it needs to be out, like in dusk when the sun is still out. So you could get hit by both, because that's around the time you'll see a fox. And that's when you get hit by both of those. And the combined power. Boom. Now you are a fox. Human person thing. A were fox.

Cristina: But what if, because I was born in a place where wolves are common, I just end up being a werewolf?

Jack: You think that'd be interesting. So let's say hypothetically, this stuff is real.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the regional DNA is really what's making the transformation on the creatures of the area?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So if you went to an area where there were different creatures, would your DNA still be the DNA from your region? Because your DNA doesn't change.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What you have is in your DNA. Just because you went somewhere else doesn't mean you'd suddenly become like a were hyena. Because you went from the US to Africa. I wish you would just become a werewolf.

Cristina: Yeah. Slim.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Or were deer. I feel like it's always a dangerous animal. You can't be a were deer.

Jack: In that case it would like. That would be horrifying anyways. But in that case it would. You could be a were buffalo.

Cristina: Were. But it feels like it has to be something that eats meat.

Jack: Why? You could be a were buffalo and just beat the s*** out of somebody without eating them.

Cristina: But all those examples of all those were places had meat eating animals.

Jack: But why can't there be examples that are just something that'll beat like a were elephant? You just grow over size and everywhere you go.

Cristina: Haven't heard of it. There should be were hippos.

Jack: Were hippo. A were hippo. Like a hippo doesn't even need to eat meat. It's just gonna murder. It murders because it can just three.

Cristina: Times the size of a hippo. Oh my gosh.

Jack: Yeah, man.

Cristina: That's too like if something like that.

Jack: Bipedal hippo freak.

Cristina: Yeah, a bipedal.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: No, you would have three legs with one leg up.

Jack: Because hippos have an extra skinny short leg. You have three normal hippo sized legs and then one really skinny short leg, like abnormally short to fit the tiny, tiny, tiny tail the hippo has. And then that one leg pretends to be the hippo's tail.

Cristina: Yes. Because it's a smart hippo.

Jack: It's a smart hippo. That's so disturbing about like werewolves that they would even do that.

Cristina: Yes, but that is so disturbing. But anyways, lets talk about werewolves and vampires and the common traits of a werewolf and a vampire piece. I would love to talk about vampires. I want to compare and contrast. Well, we know that they're both creatures of the night.

Jack: Yes. Although I don't think it's exclusively creatures of the night for werewolves. There are versions of werewolves that are purebred werewolves that move in the daylight. I think they just need the full moon to transform. Or in some cases it's to transform.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like in other cases it just permanently keeps them transformed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So a lot of the versions of werewolf are that I'M only a werewolf as long as there's a full moon. And as soon as the full moon's gone, I'm not a werewolf.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it needs to be night so that the light of the moon is the most dominant light in the sky. So the moon could be full and outside, but you not be a werewolf because it's not the most dominant light in the sky. You're getting sunlight combined with moonlight. You need strong moonlight without the sun in the way. In the way to turn. In other cases, you are already carrying a werewolf DNA and you could become a werewolf, but you have to kill the werewolf that turned you into a werewolf before your next full moon, or you become permanently a werewolf. Those are two different variants. And in the case of that second option, you could become a werewolf day.

Cristina: Or night if you're a baby werewolf. If you're unrelated to the main werewolf, you could do it whenever.

Jack: If you've been bitten and turned into a werewolf, you don't need the full moon to turn into a werewolf.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: You just permanently get trapped as a werewolf after the full moon.

Cristina: And then after the full moon, though, then it has to be a full moon.

Jack: Interesting. Maybe those are two things that work together because you can. I don't know why it would stop you suddenly from being able to turn. Maybe because it could be like you turn whenever, but then after the full moon. Now you turn only on the full moon. I feel like that's less productive than you turning whenever.

Cristina: Yeah, but also for the vampire. Not all stories have vampires that are weak during the day or they have to sleep during daytime. That just became the favorite over time.

Jack: But usually they're hybrids.

Cristina: Hybrids?

Jack: Yeah. They're not pure vampires.

Cristina: How can you tell?

Jack: Because pure vampires can't go out in daylight.

Cristina: Well, in some stories, I guess. But some stories, some vampires can I believe.

Jack: Usually those are the very, very old vampires. And they still get affected by the sunlight. Like it burns slowly. So they can travel through the sunlight, but they can't stay in the sunlight.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, there's actually. I forgot what it was called. It's a breakdown of how vampires work. Like their age ranges or something like that. Really, they're. Before a certain point, going into the sunlight turns you into stone or it ignites your skin. Actually, yeah. One turns you into stone, the younger ones, and then they crumble or ash. It turns them into ash. Then somewhere in their teens, a vampirism, they get turned into stone. Then somewhere in their mid middle age, they get a vampirism. You could be any age, but like in the middle ages of being a vampire.

Cristina: So it would be like hundreds of years pass.

Jack: Yeah, hundreds of years or something like that. Maybe like 200 years. Your skin sets on fire, but you don't die instantly the way you do younger, where you get turned into stone or ash. Then later you get. Your body sizzles, but you do not ignite. And then finally your body gradually starts heating up so you can move through.

Cristina: Sunlight but sizzle like you tan or.

Jack: No, like your body will eventually burn the way it would. Like in all of these instances, your body's still burning, but it's slower and slower each time.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: At the first case you just turn to ash. In the second case you turn to stone and then to ash, but you gradually turn to stone.

Cristina: Yeah, but these are like hundreds or like years apart from each stage.

Jack: Yes, yes. We're talking like the first one within the first hundred years. Second one, Maybe the first two, 300 years. The third one maybe like 500 years. You know, giant gaps.

Cristina: Okay, so then in both situations then they. They're mainly at night still. Werewolves and vampires.

Jack: Not werewolves.

Cristina: Vampires, not werewolves. Okay.

Jack: Vampires are mainly at night. Werewolves have some ways around the rules.

Cristina: Yeah. Especially baby you, I guess, bitten ones. That's what you're saying.

Jack: Yeah. Because there are bits born werewolves, there's also born vampires that work very differently. There's the whole trade off of when a creature is born with the DNA and when a creature is turned. Now there's all. There are some versions of each of these that don't allow for birth to happen. So you can only become. You can't be born as.

Cristina: Yes. And the way they become, though, are the same. That they have to be bitten. Yes, that it has to be through blood or saliva.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: And I think that's pretty much it that I could think of that they have in common, though.

Jack: But there are some crossing lines between werewolves and vampires that seem to be pretty similar.

Cristina: Yeah. Let's talk about vampires and where they come from, because we know werewolves are. Well, we really don't know much. We know that they could either be made or by gods getting revenge. Remember that? Yeah. Or wearing a furry belt.

Jack: Being a furry.

Cristina: Being a furry. Being bitten could turn you into a werewolf, of course.

Jack: Or drinking print water.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Or being outside in the moonlight.

Cristina: Vampires could be just evil people, people who committed suicide or witches that are coming back to life after they're dead because of. I guess evilness is bringing them back to dead from the dead. Yes. And they could Also be created by. By evil spirit or by being bitten by a vampire.

Jack: By evil spirit. Yeah. Being bitten by a vampire is normal. And what do they mean by evil spirit?

Cristina: Just like a spirit going into a dead body.

Jack: So a person who's possessed is a vampire?

Cristina: Yeah, could turn into a vampire.

Jack: So all the exorcist movies are about vampires?

Cristina: Yes, only if they suck blood. That's the important part. Right.

Jack: So vampires. A vampiric spirit.

Cristina: Yeah, a vampiric spirit will turn you into a vampire. Also, in Slavic and Chinese traditions, dead bodies that are jumped over by an animal, usually a dog or a cat, their chances of being a vampire is pretty great.

Jack: That's weird. I don't know why that's pretty weird. That's pretty weird.

Cristina: Yes. And in Russia, vampires were witches or people who had rebelled against the church.

Jack: My question is then, are they vampires who suck blood or are they describing these people as vampires? Is it like a title rather than a creature?

Cristina: I think it's a creature. I think they really believe they're going to become this creature that drinks blood after they're dead.

Jack: Okay, that's weird.

Cristina: That's weird.

Jack: I'm sure the Church made that up.

Cristina: You think the Church made that up?

Jack: Yeah, to control people into following the line.

Cristina: Mmm. But a lot of these stories came before the church, too. Like the jumping dog on the dead body predates Christianity. What, the dog jumping over a dead body? Possibly.

Jack: You think it predates Christianity? You're telling me that that myth of a animal jumping over a person and that person transforming predates Christianity? Running the world, which seems to be one of the longest running jokes in all of time.

Cristina: Do we have pet dogs before Christianity?

Jack: That doesn't mean that myth came to be.

Cristina: That's true. I don't know.

Jack: Even when the concept of werewolf came to be.

Cristina: Yeah, well, the Greek ones, that would have been pre Christianity, wouldn't it, if Zeus was turning you into a werewolf?

Jack: Is this, I guess, was turning people.

Cristina: Into werewolves just one dude for being bad?

Jack: Fair enough.

Cristina: So unless he was Zeus around when.

Jack: God was around, I'm sure they're brothers.

Cristina: Yeah. And some more weird vampire stuff that you probably did not know is that in Europe, to slow down a vampire, you would cut their tendons on their knees. Ow. The dead body. If you suspected that dead body to be a vampire, you would cut their knee.

Jack: That seems legit. But why? Oh, what's the owl for? They're dead.

Cristina: Yeah, that's true. That's true. They're dead, so who cares? But it's such a weird. No, I guess I'm still thinking about the werewolves and like how you're torturing these living people to see. But these are dead people, so it's okay.

Jack: Yeah, you just mutilated that body. It's all good.

Cristina: That's fine. And then you also would place seeds, millet, sand around the grave. Because vampires love counting things, I guess. I don't know. No, because the sesame vampire.

Jack: It's because your f****** name is the Count. Is that why the Count?

Cristina: What? Vampires have to count things. I don't know why. They just do.

Jack: That's so crazy that they have to.

Cristina: They have this obsession of counting things.

Jack: To count all the sugar grains around them. Come on, man.

Cristina: Yes. If you have a lot of. A little bit of things like sand, they just. You'll trap a vampire.

Jack: That doesn't make sense. And why is a vampire functional at all? When they're in the forest, why aren't they just counting all the rocks? Big a** holes in that f****** plant?

Cristina: Because they're not in the forest, they're in graves.

Jack: Why aren't they counting all the dead bodies and all the insects in the.

Cristina: We don't know. They didn't do that before. They had to drink blood. They counted really fast and then they went to get food.

Jack: Nah, man. There's holes here.

Cristina: Yeah, that's in Europe. But China also has the same thing where a sack. You throw a sack of rice in front of a vampire, they have to count every grain of rice.

Jack: No, I disagree. That doesn't make any sense.

Cristina: How do you know the weakness of.

Jack: A vampire is not a bag of rice?

Cristina: Yes, you slow them down that way. How did you not? Have you heard of that before?

Jack: I've heard about it. I just don't believe it.

Cristina: Yeah, how are we to judge? We haven't seen it. We haven't tried it out.

Jack: Because then it's easy to beat them.

Cristina: Well, then you have to actually attack them afterwards. I guess that would be the hard part.

Jack: Just keep throwing bags of f****** rice.

Cristina: What happens when you run out of it?

Jack: You won't. You won't.

Cristina: And we don't know how fast they can count.

Jack: Not fast enough. You just keep throwing bags of rice. Yeah, they aren't lightning. Yeah, they're fast, but not light.

Cristina: You try to lead them to a beach.

Jack: Yeah, I wonder if that. Yeah, that's it. They're done. You win.

Cristina: They're just frozen. They're counting the sand.

Jack: How could they even differentiate beyond some point? How do they know what they've Counted?

Cristina: I don't know. They just have to restart. It's a mess. It's a vampire nightmare. Yeah, that's why you don't see vampires on the beach.

Jack: How do they know, man? Like, how does a vampire exit their grave and make it out? Because there's trees maybe.

Cristina: It has to be just tiny things because all these things are really tiny.

Jack: So they're like Valley Girls and like Tokyo party girls that they just love tiny things.

Cristina: Yes. Yes they are. Why are you judging these vampires who are obsessed with tiny things and need to count them all?

Jack: Apparently. Do they also shop at the Gap? The f***?

Cristina: And to protect yourself against vampires? Well, you probably know all these things. Garlic, the Bible, crucifix, holy water and mirrors. Ward off the vampire.

Jack: I'm 95% sure the church has nothing.

Cristina: To do with that.

Jack: No, the Bible created a vampire.

Cristina: The Bible created a vampire.

Jack: I'm sure reading from the Bible is how vampires are made. It's like making holy water.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: Like a passage out of the Bible into a cup or something.

Cristina: And then what? Then you turn it to holy water.

Jack: It's turned into holy water? I guess.

Cristina: I don't really know.

Jack: Boil it.

Cristina: Boil it.

Jack: You boil the h*** out of it. And then it's holy water.

Cristina: And then it's holy water.

Jack: Yeah, because you boiled the h*** out of it.

Cristina: Well, so tell me that doesn't make sense. Huh? And vampires are unable to cross sacred ground like churches and temples. And for some reason they can't cross water. I don't know if water is also sacred or they just can't swim or. Now what's going on?

Jack: Let's look at a couple of descriptions of vampires, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If you're already excessively white, it's hard to call you pale per se. In the dead of night, you're just white. But if you're already dark skinned, then it's easy to say that person is pale because they are a different kind of dark skin that looks kind of like if you put a fade filter over something that they have like that kind of pale off color look.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So this goes back to the racist ideology that black people can't swim. And also saying that black people were the vampires, you're saying they were the.

Cristina: Vampires and the werewolves.

Jack: I'm saying white people made all of these up, which means the white person has to be the hero according to the white person, which means the monster had to be the non white person.

Cristina: Whoa. What? Why are you ruining these creatures?

Jack: Because white people are racist.

Cristina: Well, we Know that.

Jack: Who is it who isn't racist? Like, fair enough. Who's not racist? Anybody who's like, only the white people are racist. Like, shut up. Shut up. Had you been in that position, you'd call them vampires.

Cristina: I call them vampires.

Jack: Although the witches were also colored women.

Cristina: Weren't they just women?

Jack: They were colored women.

Cristina: They were young women. I thought, yeah, young colored women crazy.

Jack: A lot of the time.

Cristina: Or older ladies. I don't know.

Jack: Colored women a lot of the time, yes.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's why the voodoo priestess thing is very commonly the black woman. That all. It's coming back from the same tree of. Oh, they do magic, those witches. Those are the black women.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: That just branches down now.

Cristina: They're werewolves, vampires and witches, which are.

Jack: All just white people coming up with different derogatory names and s*** for just ways to get black people killed.

Cristina: Okay. What? Yeah, it's crazy. That's so messed up. But anyway, vampires can't enter the house unless you invite them over.

Jack: That's a weird one.

Cristina: Yeah. And they can go come and go after that point. It's just the first time thing, which they need your permission, but once you give it to them, that's it.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: I don't know why, but I don't know, I wonder.

Jack: Because it's. Let's see, things that have those same rules. There are, like, the Bible has those rules. You gotta let Jesus into your heart and give them permission. You gotta give them permission. Do you accept Christ as your savior? No. Then he can't come in. And vampires have to also do that same thing. Werewolves don't give a s***. They'll break in.

Cristina: Yeah, but the werewolf stories, they didn't seem to break into any place. They were just outside waiting for you.

Jack: Yeah, interesting, maybe.

Cristina: So maybe they can't come in.

Jack: But they don't have the capacity to communicate, to try to convince you. Like, can I come in?

Cristina: Yes. Except for that werewolf. In that story of the Little Red.

Jack: Riding Hood, she asked for permission.

Cristina: Yeah, He. To the. I think to get in the first time with the old lady, he had to be like, I'm, you know, I'm Little Red Riding Hood. You gotta let me in. And she's like, okay. And then she let him in. And then he, you know, did all.

Jack: That interesting twist on that because for the three little pigs, he also asked for permission to go in. And he said, if you're not gonna let me in, I'll knock your f****** house down.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He can't just break in. Dude, you could Blow their house down.

Cristina: But he can't go into their door in. Maybe they have the same rule.

Jack: Holy s***. I think they have the same rules.

Cristina: Oh, snap.

Jack: They're just at least that polite about it. They're not gonna be like, hey, can I come in for a cup of dinner?

Cristina: Because they can't communicate that way.

Jack: Yeah. Interesting, interesting. So then my question is what we know that tales like these children's tales come from either warnings that adults have created for children to warn them about bads of the world without making them scared of people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or real events that have happened in people's that they're warning about in a more literal sense. In the case of the Three Little Piggies and Little Red Riding Hood, were those situations with real werewolves? Because in both cases they were in the forest where the werewolf hangs out.

Cristina: But they called them wolves. They were just wolves.

Jack: Of course. Of course.

Cristina: But it's to not scare the kids from werewolves, I guess.

Jack: Yeah. Because you were talking about a human talking to a wolf.

Cristina: I don't know. Yeah.

Jack: And the three Little pigs, hams, those are just white people.

Cristina: They were calling themselves little pigs. Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Why didn't they pick something else?

Jack: Just a way to make a cute story, I guess. But they're talking to a werewolf or something.

Cristina: Mmm. Yeah.

Jack: And so that werewolf, they were maybe having a legit conversation with a werewolf in those stories. Like, what's the real, the groove version of it, you know? Like, is there a f****** werewolf in these situations that they're having a conversation with? In the case of Little Red Riding Hood, the werewolf can't get in because this goes back to what we're talking about. These lines are crossing heavily because there are the same rules. They kind of have the same timelines, they have the same ways of turning into one another. Are we just talking about a shapeshifter? Take many different forms, but it doesn't matter because the same rules for turning into the same rules for entering property, the same rules for defeat to some degree are all there.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You got to remove the head of a vampire the same way you got to remove the head of a f****** werewolf.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The bite turns you. In both cases, usually killing the one who turned you turns you back. If you do it before a certain period of time or whatever.

Cristina: So it's all the same story.

Jack: Interesting. In vampire's case, you have to kill the vampire before your bloodlust gets to you, before you have to feed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you kill the vampire who turned you before you feed. The way you kill the wolf who turned you before the full moon so.

Cristina: You'Re not permanently permanent.

Jack: Same way you're not permanent a vampire if you kill the other one before you drink human blood. If you drink human blood, you stay a vampire.

Cristina: So it's the same story. It's just about a different creature. But it's practice. It's practically the same creature. Maybe.

Jack: Yeah, there's some real close lines there.

Cristina: Yeah. And although, like I mentioned before, although vampires were believed to be more active at night, they were not generally considered vulnerable to the sunlight. I don't know. Like, through time they've become weaker to the sun. But originally the sun wasn't their weakness or anything. They just like to move around during the night.

Jack: It was just easier at night.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess because you can catch.

Jack: People at home, people out. You can't. How hard is it to feed outside with streets filled with people?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Especially when everybody's walking.

Cristina: But if it's the same with werewolves, like, you gotta wait for night because.

Jack: That'S the easier time. You could just, like, attack people on their own versus groups.

Cristina: Yeah. Mmm. That could be it. What? What? And the different methods of destroying a vampire. Or I guess, murder. I guess you can't really say murder because it's already dead.

Jack: It's not dead. Neither a vampire nor a zombie are dead.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: We've established this.

Cristina: But it's. The person who was. The vampire is dead, though.

Jack: Disagree.

Cristina: No. You think the person's still alive?

Jack: Yes, I think in both cases the person is alive. You're just talking about level of brain function in the case.

Cristina: I mean, the original person. Like, if a vampire takes over your body, you're not there anymore.

Jack: I don't think there's a different per. I think a vampire is like, interview with a vampire. Like, that guy remembers his past life, he remembers all of it, and he's like, man, I wish I could go back to being that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like, I'm here now. I can't stop it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That seems real to me versus, I guess I just see to exist.

Cristina: Okay. Because that's how it sounds like, though. Like, a demon comes into your dead body.

Jack: And in the case of you being possessed and thus being a vampire. I guess. Yeah, but you turning into a vampire, that's not something else invading you. That's you who already exists. Turning. Turning into a vampire.

Cristina: Yeah, well. Okay, well, when you turn into a vampire, the things we gotta do to get rid of you is taking you through the heart and some. And through the mouth. For some reason. I don't know why the mouth, but.

Jack: The brain, maybe you're trying to hit the brain, maybe.

Cristina: And the stomach. Those are the three good spots.

Jack: So you mean, like where the heart is, the brain is, or like, organs. Vital organs. So essentially the way you'd kill a human.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Do that and you'll kill a vampire?

Cristina: Definitely. Well, yeah. Yeah, it's exactly the same.

Jack: Sounds about right. I feel like a lot of things could be killed that way.

Cristina: Also, getting rid of the head and then burning it.

Jack: Sounds about right.

Cristina: Oh, burying the head between the feet or behind the b*** or away from the body for some reason. You just got to keep that head away once you get it off the.

Jack: Body, because the body is gonna go get it the same way a werewolf would.

Cristina: But if you hide it behind its b***, can it just get it?

Jack: Not if you tie its hands in the front and you tape the head to the b***. How would he get the head if his hands are tight in front of him? You can also do it the opposite way and tie his hand behind him. And if he's a guy, you can hang his own head off of his own d***, tape it against her. So he's forever blowing himself, but he can't do anything but blow himself, but blow himself for all of eternity.

Cristina: Whoa. Revenge on that vampire. Revenge.

Jack: Also something that applies to anyone and everyone, except in most cases, those people are dead. And you just made a corpse blow itself.

Cristina: Yes. Why? Whatever. We're crazy. You can't blame us. We're crazy.

Jack: Yeah. There's something wrong with humans for sure.

Cristina: And also, pouring boiling water over the grave. What?

Jack: To, like, super make sure.

Cristina: I guess instead of burning it, you don't got fire. Use water.

Jack: Here's the thing. I think the grave, like, is the grave already covered back up?

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Because if it's, like, there's a bunch of dirt, like, that dirt's gonna, like, cool that water down.

Cristina: We should probably do it to the body. If we're gonna burn the body, why not boil the body as well?

Jack: With, like, oil?

Cristina: With oil.

Jack: With oil, not water. Going easy.

Cristina: Yeah. Also, vampires could be shot or drowned, of course, or sprinkled by holy water.

Jack: So everything plus demon stuff. So a vampire is basically a person and could die any way you'd kill a person.

Cristina: Plus exorcism.

Jack: Plus exorcism.

Cristina: Although I feel like if you exercise a human, they might die too.

Jack: Some of the methods of exorcism would kill a normal human.

Cristina: Yes. That's why there has been cases where humans who were exercised go to court against the church because, like, I had mental problems and you destroyed me. That's been real thing that has happened, too.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. And then you could also put garlic in its mouth and then shoot a bullet through the coffin.

Jack: So, like, I don't feel you need the garlic at that point. Like, you could just.

Cristina: If you just do one, it won't work.

Jack: Just shoot him. He's fine. But if he's got garlic and you shoot him, boom, you solve that problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Isn't the garlic what's being effective there? Why don't you just fill, like, prison style instead of filling a bag up with soap?

Cristina: And if you don't have garlic, you could use lemon. You put lemon in its mouth.

Jack: So like, maybe being a vampire is more of a, like, genetic disorder where, like, you're just allergic to a bunch of s***.

Cristina: You're just allergic to a bunch of.

Jack: You're allergic to garlic and lemons. And then they put them there and you, like, super weak and dying and can't breathe, and then they shoot you.

Cristina: Duh. Oh, I forgot to mention. Oh, my gosh. This story. To find the graves of vampires. Oh, my gosh. You need to have a virgin boy riding a virgin horse. And then the horse will get scared at the grave that the vampire is in.

Jack: Because vampires rape virgin boys and horses.

Cristina: I don't know. I just think the priest might need help to know which one's the virgin.

Jack: I do, too. I think that's exactly what's happening. I think this goes back to white people in power and the church, for whatever reason.

Cristina: But why a virgin horse? You think he needs the horse too?

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: When he can't have the boy, he'll have the horse.

Jack: No, no, no. He's gonna have the boy, but he's also gonna have the horse.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. Also, graves with hoes over it. I guess, like, hoes are appearing on top of the grave.

Jack: That's an arm that poked out.

Cristina: I guess maybe that's what they think happened.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: And they're just holes there. Maybe someone's trying to actually steal that grave or something.

Jack: I think it's the other way around. I think they accidentally buried a living person who was like, I could do it.

Cristina: I can do it. I can get out, get out. Then that person suffocates and dies, but they think it's a vampire. So they're gonna put a lemon in its mouth and shoot it?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. If they. I wonder how many times that happened. They accidentally. Like, somebody was in a coma or passed out. Or some s***. They threw him in a grave, and they. The person gains consciousness while in this hole.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then they're trying to get out, and they're like, it's a vampire. F****** shoot it. Not Jimmy was alive. F****** kill it. It's a zombie or something.

Cristina: Nope, just shoot it. That's so crazy, taking no chances.

Jack: I think that's why it's a law or some s*** that you got to dig a shallow grave when you put somebody at the beginning.

Cristina: Really.

Jack: I think so. I'm not really sure.

Cristina: I know they have, like, bells on graves just in case they bury a person alive so you can ring that bell. I don't even know if that's a true story. That might just have been a legend. And then people just took it too seriously and were like, just in case this happens to me, I want a bell on my grave.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But I don't know.

Jack: Maybe I'll be buried alive.

Cristina: Mm. So now that's enough vampire talks. Let's talk about other creatures that are. That can transform and drink blood. I guess that's the important thing we need that's in common with vampires and werewolves and chupacabras.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: And the first creature up is wendingos, and I. Not really sure what a wendigo look like. It's a creature that takes over a body, and that person goes mad and eats people.

Jack: Now, to my understanding, a wendingo kind of looks like a werewolf.

Cristina: I don't think so. Do they?

Jack: I do think so, but I don't. Here's the. Here's the difference. I don't think they look like it. Depictions of them look like it. Yeah, that's the problem. When dingoes are depicted, it's kind of looking like werewolf.

Cristina: Yeah. But then they go inside the human, and then the human does these acts.

Jack: I don't think the wind dingo looks like that. I think the human dingo combo looks like that.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yes. Because there's a. The original wendigo that turns.

Jack: That's just.

Cristina: Yeah, but like a werewolf and a vampire that they have to be bitten. This thing bites, I guess, quote unquote, the. The victim, and then he turns into a win dingo and then he murders everyone.

Jack: Yes. There you go.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So they turn to something that looks like a werewolf in depictions, in depictions.

Cristina: Okay. But from the stories, it just. It's really crazy when dingles, after being after a person is. Becomes a win dingle. They just. They have an incredible need for greed, murder, and cannibalism. Even though there might Be food around, they'll still murder.

Jack: So they're like just aggressively wrathful and violent.

Cristina: Yes. There's been like two cases about Wendingell's. One case was in 1878 where a guy named Swift Runner and his family were starving and there was emergency food 25 miles away. And for some reason, instead of the guy going to get the food, Swift Runner just killed and ate his family, which were like I think five other people. And then he eventually confessed to the crime and got executed.

Jack: But he doesn't sound like he was a win dingo. He sounds like a f****** lunatic who was clear minded.

Cristina: Probably blamed the Wendigo. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think happened. I mean it could be just a crazy guy.

Jack: Sounds like a crazy guy.

Cristina: That's what. There's the debate over this Wendingo thing. Like are these really people that. What is. Are these people? Do these people really believe that they got the spirit taking over them to kill an ether family which makes them a schizophrenic or are they lying and just. They want. They kill their family and they need.

Jack: An excuse, which is where the Wendingo comes in.

Cristina: Yeah. So I don't know, like in theory.

Jack: If you're in a place that's superstitious enough, you could get away with that.

Cristina: If you're. Yeah, I guess. But he didn't get away with that. And they've also. There was another case where just the person who takes care of the Wendingo problem got in trouble because he was killing the Wendigo, which is really. He was killing people.

Jack: So he was a serial killer.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Picked very specific people, killed them and said they were possessed by Wendingo.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, that's. Wow.

Jack: That's a clever way. But that just goes back to the serial killer who was pretending he was hearing the voice of a dog.

Cristina: Yes, that's exactly what these cases reminded me of. Because that's what they were arguing. Like whether is he really hearing a demon talk to him saying kill these people or is he using that as excuse to kill these people?

Jack: He was the Son of Sam, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they were basically doing the Son.

Cristina: Of Sam shtick before he.

Jack: Before the son. Which case. That makes the Son of Sam the. The f****** copycat killer.

Cristina: Oh, maybe. But he wasn't eating people, so it wasn't the same type of crime he was committing.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: He was just shooting ladies.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: But claiming that the reason was.

Cristina: Was because of a demon dog.

Jack: Yeah, I was hearing demon dog.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And thus I went ahead and did the crime.

Cristina: Yeah. So it might be the same case. I don't know. And then there's this other creature that's called the witchooge, which is a man eating creature that could also possess people. It's like an ancient giant animal in its natural form, I think. And then it goes into regular people.

Jack: Like an ancient giant animal. Like that physical creature.

Cristina: Like a spirit animal.

Jack: Forest spirit. Like Shinto.

Cristina: Yeah, like a giant spirit animal comes inside of Zelda.

Jack: Twilight Princess with the floating animal spirits that you gotta collect the gems from and keep them kind of in reality.

Cristina: I have no idea. I don't remember that. But yes. These giant spirit animals come inside you.

Jack: They come inside you they come inside you these giant spirit animals come inside.

Cristina: You youu can become. Oh, it's huge. By breaking a taboo or becoming too strong. I don't know what too strong means, but like maybe you work out too much and then you become now a man eating creature.

Jack: Out of curiosity, do you actually eat people or you beat the s*** out of them is a common trait. Beating the s*** out of them?

Cristina: No, it's eating so they don't beat.

Jack: The s*** out of people.

Cristina: No, I mean, maybe, I don't know. But it seeks to eat people.

Jack: Interesting. Have they seen people? Have they seen people possessed by this? Are there stories of people?

Cristina: There's just stories of people because it's.

Jack: Possible that the steroids of that time were causing roid rage. And that's what they mean by too strong.

Cristina: Too strong? Yeah.

Jack: Then you're having blind rages over dumb s*** and just beating the s*** out.

Cristina: Of people to death, fighting them. And then they're like, ah, he's a wetchug. Well, you want to hear about the taboos that you shouldn't break?

Jack: I guess it could be witch hudge. So long as there's a GE at the end, which Hudge. Either way it works.

Cristina: You want to hear about the taboos yet you should not break.

Jack: Taboos for what? For the witch. Huge.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: For the witch Hudge.

Cristina: Yes, go for it. There's probably a bunch, but three of them. A person that has that takes gets a picture of them with a flash. I guess that flash is a taboo. If you get a picture of you taken with a flash is one listening to music made of stretched string like a guitar and eating meat with fly eggs in it. Don't break those taboos.

Jack: And that's it. You don't become a witchage.

Cristina: Yes, that and don't become too strong.

Jack: Guess that's it for working Out?

Cristina: Yes. This creature seeks out to eat people and attempts to lure them away by being cunning. I don't know what the cunningness is.

Jack: Smart. Clever.

Cristina: No, I. I know that I don't know what they use to be cunning.

Jack: Oh.

Cristina: Like what? How do. Like, do they. If it's a child, the cunning would be like, here's candy. Come with me. I'm not gonna eat you.

Jack: So Ted Bundy was a wet judge, is he?

Cristina: Mmm. Oh, and some of these things, the true form of it is made out of ice and it's very strong and you can kill it by throwing it on campfire and you keep it there overnight and then it melts away and then you're done with the problem.

Jack: So they are ice monsters.

Cristina: Yeah. I guess you become an ice monster eventually, is what's happening. Not the true form, because the true form, I think, is the spirit creature thing.

Jack: So a wendingo and a witch are exactly the same thing? Essentially, yeah. Most likely regional derivatives of each other.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But they all involve getting a person who turns into them.

Cristina: Yes. To turn into them. Yep.

Jack: Do they have rules for entry or anything of that nature? Do you have to, like, let them in?

Cristina: No, I think you just gotta be a really bad person. Or. I don't. The first one, I don't know. The second one, it sounds like becoming too strong.

Jack: This worked out too much. And now I'm a monster.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh. I guess the first one might be like being too greedy for some reason or it turns you into being too greedy. I'm not really sure what comes first.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Are you greedy beforehand or not? I don't know. But being a weshog is considered a curse and a punishment. So I guess that is if you're bad, you're gonna be cursed and then you're gonna want to eat people. I guess some werewolf stories are like that too. It's just a curse put on you sometimes. Alright, we're running out of time. What do you think of all that information?

Jack: I think that's pretty interesting. I think that that holds makes a pretty good argument for a werewolf, vampire, Chupacabra, the Win Dingo and the Wetchudge to be kind of different people's tales of the same creature, whether it be different eras in time or different regions giving it different names, but referring to the same thing. It's sort of the God problem.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like if you're Islamic, you say Allah. If you are Christian, you say Jehovah. But if I showed you a picture of the one true God both of, and you Some, for whatever reason, knew exactly what he looked like. Both groups would aim at the same thing. Yeah, I think it's that case.

Cristina: It could be.

Jack: I think that if everybody knew for a fact what you mean when you say vampire or wetchudge or werewolf or win dingo or chupacabra, and I brought up a single photo of a shapeshifter and you just happen to know for a fact what these creatures look like. You'd all aim at the one picture I'm holding and realize, oh, f***, we were talking about the same thing.

Cristina: Yeah. It's interesting that some shapeshifters like to be animals over human, though. The vampire is the only form that it's like. It prefers being human, I guess, in a way. Maybe the Wendigle too. I'm not sure.

Jack: Here's an interesting point that I'll make before we get out of here, which is the possibility that the intellectual level of the creature allows for a more complex transformation. So that if you can have the capacity of a person, you are a particularly intelligent shapeshifter. You can imitate a human.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Thus you turn into a vampire if you are more animalistic, but can sort of get there. Maybe all their goals is trying to get to the human where they could just blend in to the best creature to eat.

Cristina: Yes. The whole thing is to shapeshift into their meal so it can be easier for them to get closer to their meal.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: Except for the werewolf fails the most, I guess.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But they are able to turn into a creature that's around their food.

Jack: Yes. So the idea is always the blend in. Not necessarily to imitate their food, but to blend into their environment so their food doesn't know they're there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And in the case of a werewolf, they don't have the complexity to take this s*** because I guess you have to also behave the part.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So maybe you have the capacity to become a human, but you have to be able to imitate a human brain because we're assuming you're an anomalous being. Otherwise.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You're understand, your quote, brain, unquote, is a different thing. And so you imitate a human perfectly, then you behave like a human. If you can imitate a superhuman, you are a vampire. There are way less of that than there are werewolves. Way more werewolves. Because you can do that easier because you're not fully human looking, you're more animalistic looking. It takes less effort than becoming a human. Yeah, well, becoming a human takes less effort than looking like a vampire. So it's really about capacity.

Cristina: What? Yes.

Jack: And like a wendingo and a wet church are way down the totem pole down there with like werewolves. Werewolves, yeah, yeah, they're down there with those creatures. Yeah, same thing. While the Chupacabra is the furthest thing, it's nothing like a human.

Cristina: No.

Jack: It's notably a weird creature.

Cristina: Yeah, it looks like it's trying to be too much creatures at once, kind of.

Jack: Then so does the werewolf.

Cristina: Looks like it's just being wants to be a werewolf, doesn't it?

Jack: Well, a werewolf isn't a f****** thing. A werewolf is a creature that looks like a combination of a wolf and a human.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay, I see.

Jack: So the idea here would be that maybe when we're talking about shape shifters, we're not just talking about one thing, although we kind of are. We're talking about sort of the difference between a Chihuahua, a Rottweiler, a greyhound. Like maybe there are different kinds of shape shifters. They're all the same general thing. Like I can call every animal. I just said a dog. Yes, but they're also different kinds of dogs. Yes. Different species within the same branch thing or not different species, different races of the same species.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So maybe there are different races within the same species of shapeshifter, which allows for more complicated transformation in the future.

Cristina: I would like to go on to that. Hopefully we'll get there eventually. Of talking about the different species of shape shifts shifters.

Jack: Interesting, interesting.

Cristina: But just get, I would like to stick to the blood drinking though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because there's a million shapeshifters. Of course, yeah.

Jack: There's even animals that drink blood.

Cristina: There's animals. Oh yeah.

Jack: There's normal animals that drink blood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That seems to be a trait which tells us there might be creatures that exist in nature that are already sort of connected.

Jack: Two shapeshifters. They might have a branching like DNA strand or something.

Cristina: Maybe. Fascinating, interesting. Okay.

Jack: But it'll. It'll be way easier when we finally capture this werewolf we've been hunting down and we can bring that f***** in, put him in a cage, probably next to the Reptilians, Cause f*** them, send that b**** to Mars. Now that we've built that whole study facility up there. So we'll send that to Mars with the rest of the f****** things we've got up there and we'll run some experiments and find out what we're gonna do with that. Well, we find out, maybe we can get it just to turn into something that doesn't look like a werewolf, but we're closing in. Yeah, closing in. The sub humans are out there doing their job.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys enjoy this topic, there are millions of this sort on the show. You can find many episodes where we're discussing things of this nature, a bunch of different types of creat. Previous, more primitive versions of this conversation. We don't touch on the same things that we touched on here, but we kind of brush around the different subject matters, including the Chupacabra, shapeshifters and things of other things and shapes like reptilians and whatnot, even alien creatures who might potentially be the Chupacabra in the first place. To find those episodes, you guys can find them on the official website, greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcast.

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Jack: Bye.

Cristina: That's how they sounded like. Okay, you know how they sound like I've heard it. I don't know what's happening there. I mean, I guess that's what. Yes. I remember as a child listening to my parents.

Jack: And that's what it sounded like. Yeah, just gibberish. Like you didn't understand s***.

Cristina: Not that, like, if you're bored and you don't, you're not really paying attention, but you have to pay attention because maybe you did something bad or whatever, and they're just trying to explain something.

Jack: And you're like, somehow I doubt there was a moment in your life in which you did something bad.

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