Rambling 276: The Point of Gaza
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What is the true purpose of what’s happening in Gaza? Do we have similar examples? And if we do, what is Israel really doing and who really are they? The duo now with answers to move forward, evolve the nature of their questioning taking them straight to present day to some astounding revelations. An episode which completely reframes all that is known and reveals dark coming truths for humanity!
+Episode Details
- The Gaza Prison State
- Israel Origins
- Genocide vs Experiment
- Who’s the Kingpin?
- Prophecies Line Up
- The True Big Picture
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+Transcript
Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we discuss humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And, like, we've been talking a lot for years at this point, literally.
Cristina: Has that been years?
Jack: It's literally years. It's literally been years. At this point, it's been like two years. Okay, yeah, about the same s***.
Cristina: But I thought we escaped it. We. I haven't escaped it.
Jack: I thought we escaped it, too. I thought we escaped it, too. I thought we escaped it, too. But the lingering question was, right, we solved the bunch, figured out a lot. But there was this question about Yahweh in specific, right? Like, we still don't know a lot about him. And there was a situation about the Tower of Babel that I wanted to talk about before, if you remember. And so the basic premise of that discussion, I'm gonna rush through it because it's useless. I just need you to understand the premise, right? The idea was the Tower of Babel, that Yahweh specifically had a. These desolation guy, and there's a bunch of people who are building a tower to reach him. This metaphor of a tower must have been literally trying to get this amounted or something, presumably.
Cristina: Okay, right.
Jack: And in the text, it says that he switched their language so they couldn't communicate and work together to continue to build it. That was his solution to the problem. But really, when you look at the depictions, the images that were used in description with those in sync with that time, those kind of look like satellites. So it's more like he was destroying their communication and towers and s***. Right?
Cristina: Do you have pictures of this?
Jack: What are you talking about? It was just, like, images and drawings and then descriptions of them and just a bunch of random bits and pieces. But that's not even what matters because. And we've seen this a thousand times in a million different places. It's interesting, but it's actually not the important thing, because the important thing comes down to what's happening right now. Because it's happening right now with simply following Yahweh. Because following Yahweh, one thing came to mind. Whose God is Yahweh? And he's the God of the Jews. Okay, right, The God of the Jews. So I'm like, okay, coincidence, right? Because the Jews and the Israelis aren't necessarily the same thing.
Cristina: Okay, so you're Going back to what we were talking about last episode kind of sort.
Jack: Right. So the Jews and the Israeli aren't necessarily the same thing. Israel is a new concept. Jews are not. Those are two different concepts. Who we identify as Jews now might not be the state of Israel, might be what we discussed. Right. But Jews, their God was Yahweh. Now current day Jews have a more abstract, ambiguous, kind of less directly spoken of God, but it's almost assumed it's Yahweh, but it's kind of like pretty removed a lot of the time. And Yahweh isn't really the God that is addressed even within the Jewish community. Well, Jehovah. Oh, that's a weird little alteration. Right.
Cristina: When did that happen?
Jack: Well, that happened kind of in modern time, generally speaking, all of Israel kind of always not Jews, but the state of Israel itself. Them, they've always been sort of Jehovah kind of people. Not a New Testament kind of people. They still follow Old Testament. It's still Jewish. But he just kind of say Jehovah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And that's cool and fine, but old Jews used to say Yahweh. Weird, tiny discrepancy. I'm just pointing that out, you know.
Cristina: But it changes in the first book. The Old Testament?
Jack: Yeah. Oh, the original swap, it was used kind of interchangeably in the first one. In the first one. But the Jews of that time used Yahweh. They used Yahweh. The people of that time used Yahweh. Even if both exist.
Cristina: And the Old.
Jack: Yes, they would. They would defer to Yahweh first.
Cristina: Okay, and what was the other name?
Jack: The other name is Jehovah.
Cristina: Okay, Right.
Jack: So there was still a distinction. They felt one was superior to the other.
Cristina: Even though it's the same person.
Jack: No one's the father and the other is the son. Wait, Yahweh is Jehovah's father?
Cristina: Okay. No, I mean in the book, though. It's not really. It's the same person in the book.
Jack: Well, let me trip you out. The Jews already knew this and have kind of a tree in some form where they've kind of linguistically divided it. They already believe Yahweh is above Jehovah. They don't say one is. They're even related. But conceptually they've actually divided and created a distinction between that within how they explain their religion to people and how they preach it. There's a clear distinction between those two entities.
Cristina: Are you sure?
Jack: Yes. And people have related their sort of explanation of it. To father and son.
Cristina: But those people don't believe there's a father and a son.
Jack: No, they don't. They, the Jews themselves don't use that terminology. That's people trying to relate it to. Like, this is the best way I can explain the same idea.
Cristina: That's strange. Okay.
Jack: Juicer way thought out. They're above everybody. They're essentially following not even of religion as much as what seems to be a literal map of what kind of reality exists upon. They don't believe in a heaven per se. They believe there's a possible maybe something.
Cristina: Possibly something which sounds like.
Jack: Well, it depends on what you do. And what does that sound like? Well, are you going to just dissipate in peace or go to some kind of hellish place which isn't literally h***, it's some kind of other place like. That sounds like their belief. It's just some maybe something.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And okay, that lines up. And they're not like, well, we can't really comprehend God.
Cristina: He's just another thing they worship. You're saying people. Yes, but those people are from the sea people. They're worshiping sea people at the end of the day, like did the ancient ones. Were they actually worshipping sea people?
Jack: Worship is our interpretation of it. Keep in mind, when we're referring to gods, the word God ultimately devolves down to the original root of person of intellect, person of authority, elite person of power. It's just with time and losing things and pieces here and there, you don't. People don't see the whole picture, which was our job.
Cristina: Okay. But in the last episode, we decided those were actually shadow people.
Jack: It seems to be that. Yes. That the state of Israel is shadow people. Yes.
Cristina: Well, does that make sense, though?
Jack: It makes sense when they are described specifically as the ones from the other side by everybody else.
Cristina: But once upon a time they had communication with the sea people.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And they were worshiping them.
Jack: No, they're not worshiping the sea people. Where are you getting the worship?
Cristina: Well, they felt some kind of way towards them, that they were above them.
Jack: Yes, they definitely. It's possible that because of the technology. Keep in mind that these are the oppressors.
Cristina: But they still.
Jack: We look at it like they're describing gods. We never said their gods are good to them. In fact, all of these people think these gods are monstrous and will hurt you. The word God does not mean benevolent in any instance, we've used it. And also, we don't even mean God when we use it. Okay, but every time we've used God. All those people think, oh, he's wrathful and gonna murder you. So none of them are like, we worship this guy. They're more like, we're gonna follow his orders. Cuz f*** that.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: You get my point. There's no worship in this old school. People weren't dumb like that. They weren't like, we got a war. They don't believe this s***. People nowadays do. People nowadays are idiots. They're like, no, there was a literal deity or something. These people were like, no. Those people basically own all this s*** that says I can't do anything about it. So I'm just gonna do whatever they want me to do because they don't need me. And it's really easy to get rid of me, so I'll be as useful as possible.
Cristina: But then something happened and that changed.
Jack: The Great War. The unification is what I'm calling it. The great Unification that happened at some point between, just by chance, between the year 6 BC and 4 AD which weirdly enough happens to coincide with the migration of the random group of people. We can tell because of the genetic marker of the J1 that comes from the neck of the Persian Gulf oasis, leaving around 6 BC to sometime around 4 AD and breaking up into three groups that scatter north, west and southwest, landing in Gaza. See, and at the same time, all mention of Elysians ceases. Everywhere the sudden beginning mentions of Israel first happen and we get the invention of the first ever, consistently always foreign own slave state. Now this is incredibly important because of what's happening in this slave state. This slave state is a very interesting location. Again, just following the train of thought of Yahweh, I come to the Jews and then the Jews just happen to be related to the Israelis because, you know, logistically in the same location.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So I then start looking at the Jews because I'm not really paying attention to the Israelis. Really. We just quickly address the fact that they might just be shadow people who joined the group of people who were against the Elysians to begin with.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which checks out. It makes sense as a strategic approach in life. You know, join the people who aren't the. Who are the good people in your eyes as compared to who are the bad people in everybody's eyes. You know, it's a great war, everybody's friends. Yeah, it makes sense. And so the Jews, notorious for definitely not being on the Elysian side, okay, you know, is who these Rayleigh state, AKA a bunch of shadow people who then turn themselves into just normal day humans. It coexists. It makes perfect sense. Right?
Cristina: Right.
Jack: But we have this state. And I think about what we were talking about last time, Right. We're talking about the migration pattern and how it broke up into these three different things. But a question came to me after the episode, which unpacking, the question got really, really, really dark, really, really quickly. Ran. I asked, but how do we know there's migration patterns if we killed them off? And that's the ones that are left, minus the ones that got away elsewhere. Right. Well, what's the migration pattern? It's DNA traces over time. So it took them time, they migrated at normal people speeds. They were trying to blend in. Right.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But we can trace their DNA with current day science. We couldn't then. They had that science, but they knew we didn't.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So they blended in the people and made their way out. Hence the slow migration. They impregnated women throughout the time. Some blended in, whatever. They diluted themselves and disappeared into the populations. We can trace where the purity kept going as the line kept moving. So why didn't we eradicate those people? Right. We can trace the same J1 marker.
Cristina: Mm. You're saying those people as in the other two locations?
Jack: Yeah, the other two paths of the J1. A variation of DNA that we don't. We haven't killed those people that have it. But we know we don't follow the migration line. We just know that there is the Gaza line, the Gaza spot and where it began. And we got those other two lines. The two lines. We don't eradicate any of that. And the line in Gaza going to Gaza. No. But we have Gaza trapped. What's the difference from Gaza and those lines? And I had a theory about this. And then when I thought about this theory, I didn't looked into it, into how things work in it. Well, I didn't look into how things work. I looked into my theory and it told me how things work. I'll explain.
Cristina: You looked into your own theory?
Jack: Yes, I looked into my own theory. I looked at aspects of my theory.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Did some research.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And found weirder things about how things work.
Cristina: All right, and what was your theory?
Jack: So current day Israel is holding hostage current day Gaza.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We all know this. There's a blockade. Everybody else is kind of like let it happen, but what's really happening. Right. So currently Israel has currently Gaza just nice and boxed in. And I was looking at patterns. What often does this and for what purposes? Might somebody else.
Cristina: Trap another country or.
Jack: Something like not necessarily Country. I'm trying to remove myself from any idea that might connect back to war. I try to always remove myself to get different perspective. So what paths can lead to it, to a similar look? Well, scientists, oftentimes that's an initial. Once I saw scientists, I was like, let me click that f****** thing right there, bruh. Scientists tend to isolate a specific genetic variant in order to preserve just its evolutionary concentration. Right. What does this mean? We can have a pure version of something that's less influenced by the external world.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Fact, we can trace the genetic markers because of the migration line. Fact, there are two genetic variants, the lines themselves and the B1. B that came from the J1, that exists only in Gaza, which is sort of refined alternative. Just purified there by itself. Not purified, but it's more pure than the rest of us. Just a more concentrated version of the J1. Interesting. Why do scientists do this? Well, they do that to research these specific things. Okay. Yeah. When you have like a creature in isolation, you have less influence from the external world. This is great for genetics and things when you're studying biology and stuff, not when you're studying natural responses and psychology and behaviors. Because isolation is bad.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But you can create sort of a fake habitat and have them enclose within that fake habitat, which isn't really fake habitat. It's natural environment usually just protected from anybody going in or out. Then in that controlled environment, they're sort of less exposed to the outside world, but you still have access to the creature sort of living in its natural environment, staying as natural as possible. And this is usually how we preserve things from going extinct. What does preserving something from going extinct mean? The bird, the animal, the dog, the cat, whatever, isn't going to mate with some other things. It's going to mate with its own kind because it's trapped inside these walls with its own kind and it can multiply into more pure versions of itself.
Cristina: We do that with animals.
Jack: We do that with animals all the time. That's what natural preserves, enclosures are. Animals can keep reproducing among themselves and not diluting themselves. And that's sort of what's happening genetically inside of Gaza. We can tell that the people there have a specific, more concentrated version of a very specific genetic marker. They happen to have started at Persian Gulf Oasis.
Cristina: You think that's important to why they're being trapped in the first place?
Jack: Yes, because now I have to talk numbers again. This was just what, what might look like this in the world. And it led to scientists this Led me to the next point, which is essentially just a numbers question. Right. Once I start discussing the numbers, you're gonna get a lot of where I'm going with this.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Right. All right. 7 million humans is one instance. 50 million Neanderthals is another instance. And about a hundred to a thousand alfamers is another instant. These are different variations, different quantities that it took to create different stones.
Cristina: Okay. Oh, duh. Oh, duh. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. So 7 million humans. It's the most recent stone we can, like, track. That was pretty big.
Cristina: How many people are there?
Jack: It's getting to the hundreds of thousands.
Cristina: That feels like not enough.
Jack: Well, let's talk about these numbers again.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It was the most primitive stone we can think of before the concept of our time existing.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Before, the concept of our time existing was a thousand. Roughly a thousand. The most could have been a thousand based on what's left in disgust. Elfamers. About a thousand. Very small number. Very primitive. S***** stone.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Very low number. Really good stone. It couldn't make a universe.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Ooh, Kind of interesting.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: 50 million Neanderthals. Whack DNA takes a lot. Stone was so s*****, it took another try.
Cristina: Yeah, okay.
Jack: S***. You know, too whack of DNA. It's.
Cristina: But this is not whack DNA.
Jack: We're going back up, right? Because the most recent human stones was against Jews, right? 7 million. Using the Jews. Right. Using what? Specific Jews. Right. The Jews of Israel. Right. Those are what? Those are just gin, Right. That's a really strong stone. Right. So if you're gonna retaliate, you need a pretty strong f****** stone. Right? But you've always had your f****** ace in your back pocket. And we're talking scales of hundreds of thousands of years. This is a quick retaliation. Oof. Not really. Hundreds of thousands, Usually thousands of years. But yeah, a hundred years is a quick retaliation. It's really, really quick. Okay, so we're talking that these guys are making a pretty overpowered stone. If you're using Elysian DNA to make it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's. Potentially. They're calculating. The strongest stone ever made use is the equivalent of the weapons of mass destructions that we think exists, but secretly in the background. This is the real power. This is what people are really scared of. This is the true fear. And the problem is there's a very reminiscent thought that just happens to be a cartoon that really gives me a really good image of what's happening and why other people might already be stepping back. Because a lot of people stepped back right at the Beginning. And they're like, f***, bro. But why?
Cristina: Seem like some people are trying.
Jack: Yes, but what is the caution? Right? We know. We know a lot already. It's possible that these are just op gin. The tech is already up there. We can't do anything about these people to begin with. But there was a very vivid image I have, if you remember in Full Metal Alchemist, what made the military particularly dangerous?
Cristina: The fake stones. They're not fake, but, like, they had real stones, but they were wax stones.
Jack: They were small stones.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Ring size, like a diamond ring.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Tiny stones. Yeah, but they were real stones. But what about the stones made it great? Then everybody had one. The generals of every group, soldiers had guns, but the guy at the top of every tree, he had a stone. He worked his way to a stone, and he had to learn alchemy and do his homework.
Cristina: I think they just have a bunch of little stones.
Jack: I think we are in a situation where they've learned to casualize the ability to use these stones. And we've witnessed the flex. Like, maybe they've had it. And that's why we've been like, well, we're not gonna do it. They come from the other side, and they just become human. I think since that point, since the formation of Israel, they've had this, and nobody's gonna touch them. And then the first people to try their best to do so. Well, I mean, the state of Israel gets formed after N*** Germany.
Cristina: Right.
Jack: Didn't even exist until then. It's a response to that.
Cristina: Okay, you think they have stones, though?
Jack: I think at that point. I think at that point, they have stones. The state of Israel is controlled by essentially, quote, the generals with the stones, unquote, which are not really generals or military figures, but rather people of importance who have the ability to do real important damage on an interestingly overpowered scale. And that because of this, everybody has always just kind of done whatever. But the moment finally came. They told us, oh, yeah, we'll end this for you, but one day we're gonna do the thing. Because we have to.
Cristina: I don't want to just like, whatever.
Jack: And like, yeah, we're like, whatever. We'll deal with it then solve the problem now. Because we're stupid humans. We're stupid f****** humans. We're dumb. We think so. Short term, it's ridiculous. Part of the lifespan is retarded short. So, like, what the f*** would we do?
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: You know, we think in our. In the terms of our lifespan, they're thinking in the terms of theirs it's not the same to them. That short blip is really tiny scoped. But no, we, we considered our whole life. It's like you're just considering a longer span and you're judging us. But ultimately these guys, no one can do anything. Nobody can do anything. And I think that's the big problem. And right now they are starting to form a really overpowered stone, more powerful than any that has been formed until now.
Cristina: Where? What, what are they gonna do then? What. What's the next step? They make the stone and then what?
Jack: I don't know. We'll just won't hear about them. It'll go back to normal. No, they won't leave. It'll just quiet down. They're gonna get their thing accomplished and that's it.
Cristina: You think they won't just escape out of here or something like the next step like all everyone else with their stones?
Jack: Yes, but not in our time. Time span. We're not going to see that happen. Oh, the next. Keep in mind they're performing at their time span, not ours. We're thinking, oh, within our time span of life. We don't know. We're not gonna see that happen.
Cristina: But it's gonna happen eventually.
Jack: Presumably. Yeah, within a couple of hundred years to a few thousand years or some thinking hundreds of years. Based on the time scope that we see, everything happens within dozens to hundreds. It seems to be the regular time frame of LEAPS. 300 years seems to be the average good jump from one point to another.
Cristina: That's crazy though. That's crazy.
Jack: What?
Cristina: That they're just making a stone?
Jack: Yeah. But it kind of checks out, right?
Cristina: Just waiting for the stone to be made.
Jack: Yeah. And this question was just stuck in my head when I was just wondering.
Cristina: What could they possibly be doing?
Jack: Not even what could they be doing, but why. Why did I know about the. The path of DNA?
Cristina: What did you know?
Jack: Well, I didn't know. I did research.
Cristina: Why did someone know?
Jack: Yeah, why did. Why did ancestry look at this? How did. What was the point? How did they get. Not why, obviously I don't know why they looked at everyone. How did they know that that existed? Right, but what's the answer to the question is because there's people with the DNA. So wait, you didn't kill everybody with the DNA? Duh. So then what does that mean? That means that there's something specific about the people over there.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So then what's specific about the people over there? That's not. You're just imprisoning the ones you could catch. No, there's a. There were a bunch. And you ignored them. You caught some for a reason. And then I was like, why the. What else could look like this? Well, scientists do this to preserve things, to keep things purer, which we can prove because they actually have a more concentrated version of the same DNA. And what does adrenochrome work with? It works with blood.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the higher quality of the blood, the better the stone, which is proven. Although never discussed explicitly other than through the events. But the numbers line up with the events. You need less numbers if you have a purer blood and you usually use a stone and some other kind of thing to try to make a purer creature to then use to make a better stone. There's a process they were always going through.
Cristina: Mm. So there's gonna be something next, then? Yes, next evolution is coming up.
Jack: It depends how long it takes from the stone.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because. Yes, that was the other problem. Right. I'm like, okay, so the state of Israel happens, and then we discuss that, and we ignore the one fact that happens. Following that logic. Well, that group of individuals is what then? Well, the ones who could cross and turn themselves. Those are the elite scientists. That's also why those are the ones we're scared of. Those are currently the strongest, most powerful thing out here. Those are the ones who are gonna take the place of the Elysians. That's why everybody's horrified, too, because what we stopped is starting again.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: And we're watching it happen. And we know at any moment it could be f****** any of us. But we helped them, and now we have to pay. It's essentially the demon crossroads problem.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I will reward you with whatever the f*** you want right now, but I am coming for you.
Cristina: And that's pretty much what happened. Okay. Yeah. Everyone had a problem.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: The humans came and, like, we can help you.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Oh, crap. Oh, crap. Mel. Are gonna be our problem. And we just got to watch and wait. That's weird. It's really strange. Yeah.
Jack: And it's weird because they didn't even help us stop the Alicians. They helped us to stop the Germans. That's it. They rolled up and helped to stop other humans. It was easy for them to do. So easy for them to do. They did it through the United States. So easy for them to do. Simple. Simple, effortless. Because what? We can push humans around like nothing, but we're coming for you.
Cristina: That's crazy. That's too crazy.
Jack: We successfully spent almost 2000 years. Well, I guess we didn't make it the 2000 years roughly because that was sometime in the 40s and now it's 2024. So you know we, we cleared the 2000 year mark of having suppressed the issue, but we made a deal with the devil and not really. They're not bad people. We gotta continue the thought creatures that can easily do the thing aren't thinking of us as people. That's really all that's happening.
Cristina: We're not equal to them.
Jack: We're not equal. We're smaller, less significant things that could be easily manipulated.
Cristina: Which we were.
Jack: Which we were. And we're still being. So it's pretty cut and dry. And the moment finally arrived then we're watching it happen and we're kind of all shook but talking about in the background like how do we stop it? We can't, we can't just jump in. It would be too easy for them to end it all right now and go start somewhere else. It would be too easy. We invited this in. So how do we think our way out of the problem? First point of action.
Cristina: You have a plan?
Jack: Well, no, this is the p. This is, I'm assuming the world at the moment.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: First point of action. The people of Gaza are f*****. We just have to let that happen. So that's a distraction while we talk, while we plan.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: While we figure it out. That's our timeline. Because one, we already can't stop them. Two once that's done, we'll never stop them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we gotta move to Mars. That's a, that's a possibility for sure. And the fact that. So the, the second thing, I don't know if you've looked at this and we can. If you want to.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Many, many, many, many, many billionaires and high hundred multi millionaires have been buying bunkers and buying seats to go visit Mars.
Cristina: That's not shocking, but okay. What can we do with that though?
Jack: Just all been happening. Buying seeds to leave the planet. Buying seeds to go underground.
Cristina: Yeah, because they know.
Jack: Because they know.
Cristina: What can you do? I don't know. It's very Egypt and my. What's the other people? Males.
Jack: Also how reminiscent of Horizon zero Dawn is the Mayans solution to hiding from the incoming apocalypse that they were experiencing.
Cristina: Yeah. And then the other people that went into space.
Jack: And then the other people went to space. Egyptians.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: No, it always, it's always the same. It's always the same. It's literally history repeating itself.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Just away from baseland. That's it.
Cristina: And it's gonna happen.
Jack: And it's gonna happen again. Holy. We're seeing history happen again.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: What the.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Oh, that's crazy. That's really cool.
Cristina: That's cool that it happened in Horizon. We didn't even realize it.
Jack: Yeah. That's pretty badass. Good on them. That's fire. That's fire. I like that. D***. And we have neither.
Cristina: Neither. No.
Jack: No. Because we know the base is. That's just happening. So this is getting wiped out. We're part of the you're f***** group.
Cristina: No, we're not. We have.
Jack: Our bunk is not deep enough. We're not like Illuminati bunk. Our bunk is like, meh. Like a good. Like a missile directly hitting our territory.
Cristina: We can hide in one of the many locations where the Loch Ness monsters were protecting those random labs.
Jack: No, that's fair.
Cristina: Is that good?
Jack: Yeah. 100. And we're some of the only people who even know how to reach that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Then that's kind of fire.
Cristina: We have something that's fair.
Jack: That makes a lot of sense. We act fair enough. We actually have a lot of. We could do the spacing too. That just kind of sucks.
Cristina: Does this look. I don't know.
Jack: I don't know. Like, we can just use the. The pyramid and like, warp out. But the problem is we sent a whole group of people there and that's just still nothing. So, like. Nah.
Cristina: We could some. No. How could we. Because we haven't figured it out. Travel to the place of the people that are listening to us.
Jack: Oh, crap. You mean Universe Three?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I don't even know how we would accomplish that.
Cristina: That's an idea. Very Full Metal Alchemist, then.
Jack: Yeah. Escape through those means hop through a portal or somehow. I mean, anything. Right? Because what's coming. Ultimately a group of people who are way more powerful than us are going to begin experimenting to advance their civilization, I guess. Or themselves to get out of here.
Cristina: Probably like everyone else. But out of this reality into Althaim?
Jack: I don't even know. Well. What. You pose a different argument, which we're still looking into, which is that it's not just out, but it's also creating universes of their own.
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: And it's like. That's even more valuable because many of.
Cristina: Us do they have to sacrifice to do that?
Jack: How many of us do they have to sacrifice to do that? Keep in mind it looks like earthrealm itself is some sort of farm of elf fame. People of some degree. We're all sharing somehow that DNA. And the lesions are the Purest version of that.
Cristina: It's complicated.
Jack: Yeah. So, like, if you're trying to make something pure and then make a universe, you come here to do it. You leave the shadow realm, you come here.
Cristina: That makes sense.
Jack: And then you find the purest thing here, which are the people of Gaza.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: S***. Just so happens to be where they're at and exactly who they happen to be killing. What the f***?
Cristina: To make a new something. Yeah.
Jack: Just so happens to be what's happening. What the f*** are the odds?
Cristina: It makes sense though, right?
Jack: What the f***? Unless it's the most exact coincidence in all the f****** time. It is step by step what would need to happen. And it is literally what is happening.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So, like, I don't know what to tell you guys. If there was ever a clearer image of some weird supernatural that just so happens to not be. I mean, at this point, I don't even think about it as supernatural. I've. It. I've rationalized it into technology.
Cristina: Yeah, me too.
Jack: You know, like, I've seen enough. I've seen it. We've seen images of literal tech. Our attack, it's just not our tech. It's just not our tech. But it's just foreign enough that it looks like magic. But then we look at it and it's like, well, that guy wasn't shooting energy out of a pot because magic. No, there was a. It was a battery, bro. And we saw it and we saw the inside. It's like, oh, I get it now. And then. Oh, my God, the staff. And he was controlling magnetism and electricity. Well, it was a staff wrapped in coils with a metal rod inside of it. And he was in an area that was intentionally built with a magnetic sphere around it, bouncing electrical currents that he could then manipulate with the rod. It was intentional. Yes. Of course it looked like he was controlling it, because that was the f****** goal of the technology. It's like, oh, with enough time and enough different angles of literally seeing it. Yeah. I no longer see it as magic and stuff.
Cristina: But we're in danger.
Jack: Oh, yeah, We're. We're. We're very. I don't know how we would solve this problem other than leaving, which seems to be what everybody who doesn't want.
Cristina: To bother seems like the problem. I mean, the solution. It seems like what everyone's doing is it's got to be out. No up or down, up or down.
Jack: But I'll tell you one thing. The last uprising worked.
Cristina: The last up. Right.
Jack: Think about it. The last uprising worked. Although these guys Jumped on the opportunity to capture a group of them because they knew what was coming. They knew. Wait, you guys will jump, we'll help you guys. And we're gonna trap this group of people. Anybody can own this s***. But we're eventually going to show up and we're going to establish ourselves and this group of people. We want that this group of people, you need to make sure that group of people 1 stay pure. We don't give a f*** who owns that group of people. It stays f****** pure or we eat you guys instead.
Cristina: What do you mean by an uprising?
Jack: The uprising that happened at the time of Jesus, when the Alicians were first broadcasted to the world their location and that the big war happened and that at that point, these people, these jinn who assisted in the act, who were the shadow gods, they show up and they help with this situation to suppress the Elysians, because they weren't even with them, they're against them. Right? So they roll up, they help the people. We successfully suppress the Alicians, they give one rule for their whole thing eventually. We want that group of people. So you keep that group of people? Yeah, that's why we've seen that their DNA manages to be completely purified, essentially. Well, not purified, but still diluted, but way less than the rest of us. And it simultaneously managed to be owned by different people, which you think it would mix and be diluted. But still with regardless of whose hands it was in, they followed the one rule of that stays pure.
Cristina: Okay, right.
Jack: And then World War II happens, they roll up, help solve the problem. Now we got the straight of Israel, totally unrelated to f****** Gaza. Just okay, but unrelated to f****** Gaza. They're just. Yeah, we're just taking. We just. We just own that now, guys. And everybody's like, well, they just own that now, guys. We don't. Yep, that's what it is. What the f***?
Cristina: I mean, it was theirs before they got there.
Jack: I guess that's the argument. But there's no such thing. Palestine always owned Gaza. Israel doesn't exist. In fact, Israel is a chunk of Palestine.
Cristina: Oh, but how, what can you do about shadow people?
Jack: Well, we know an uprising happened and succeeded at the time of Jesus. And it was for somebody more powerful, so much more powerful that even the shadow people jumped in to assist stopping the problem.
Cristina: But the shadow people were helping us with the sea people.
Jack: Yes, and then they rolled up and assisted for World War II. And then.
Cristina: Are you saying that someone else or something else is gonna help us with them?
Jack: No, I'm Saying that we still managed to stop the sea people. So an uprising succeeded. So an uprising can succeed, but it.
Cristina: Was with help of outsiders. I don't know.
Jack: Yes, but presumably those outsiders at. No, man, I was. My point went out the window once I thought about it right now. Because I'm gonna say those outsiders at that point were about as technologically advanced as we are now. But that's a lie. They were definitely way ahead of where we are now, even. Yeah, by like, a lot. Yeah, maybe not by like a lot.
Cristina: But like, enough from them to be able to change their bodies from whatever they were to whatever we are.
Jack: Like, we're looking at their, like, crazy tech. Yeah, they're like 2,000 years. No. Yeah, because we gotta think that they were really. When we see them swinging some kind of real ham of technology, it's like still 12, 000 years.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it's like fog. Okay, so 12, 000 years before we.
Cristina: Get the crisis, hope that the sea people that are hiding pops up and defends us from them.
Jack: Why would they defend us?
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: You know what's confusing about this? Because Jehovah was like, but you're killing the people and giving them the technology. But I guess when you think about it, it's more about we can't harvest them if they're dead. Yeah, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's like, why are you killing the cattle, bro? We can't keep killing the cattle, bro.
Cristina: You can't keep killing.
Jack: It's like. Is that. I guess. Yeah, I guess you could still explain it away. Fair enough. Fair enough. I was gonna try to jump on his defense now, but no, he's still pretty horrible because he was f******. Because I'm like, why is he experimenting on us and then defending us? And it's like, oh, no, he's just making sure we don't die.
Cristina: Yeah, you need some of us alive to continue experimenting.
Jack: Yeah. And you can't just f****** give them all tech and then they all collapse. Yeah, the whole line of the f****** equator, except the Alicia. The Egyptians collapse. Everybody. All of them. Except the Egyptians, of course. Of course. Stop, bro. Lucifer, homie. Come on, bro. I know you mean well, dog. Look, look, Dab me up, bro. You know, I. I respect what you're trying to do, bro, but you keep killing them and, like, they're just f****** dumb creatures, bro. Don't give them this s*** and then show them, and then they're just gonna try to kill the next guy.
Cristina: Yeah, it was just death. Like, if it was making stones, at least that'd be cool, but, like, it was wasted death.
Jack: It was wasted death. Exactly. Just trying to make intelligence happen. And it's like, come on, bro, it takes time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or jump on board the project of breeding something that could learn faster, which is what everybody's trying to do. Why are you just trying to. I guess the shortcut. Fair enough.
Cristina: How they're here.
Jack: Okay. I lost a little respect for him. Fair enough. Fair enough. I see the problem. I see the problem. If we're people of honor and everybody else is doing the hard work and this m*********** is like. But maybe one of them will just miraculously work out and then we'll be done and. Except that never really happened. Playing the slow game might have worked out, but why? Because the ones that went to Norway and the ones that went to the Atlantic can monitor us and watch us and see where we're all. We're almost there anyways. Playing the slow game. Yeah.
Cristina: No countless of deaths involved, except for.
Jack: Like, what we caused to ourselves. And now the problem. Showing the shortcuts. Showing up again.
Cristina: Yeah, the shortcut. Yeah.
Jack: Oh, s***.
Cristina: That is always a danger.
Jack: That is always a danger. Oh, my God. There was a good guy.
Cristina: Ooh.
Jack: Well, it wasn't a good guy. There was a bad guy because a bunch of amoral s*** happening.
Cristina: Yes. So you can't really say anyone was specifically a good guy. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. So there was a bunch of amoral s*** and then one exceptionally s***** guy who was like. But the shortcut to being immoral.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, if a bunch of them died. Cool, man. But some of them will work out. It's like, what the f***?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Yeah, I guess that's kind of s*****. That's pretty bad.
Cristina: It's pretty bad. Yeah.
Jack: He seems. I guess. Oh, man. Lucifer is clever, Right? Because also the way the argument gets twisted by his point of view is he means well. He wants you to know stuff, but he excludes what the cost is.
Cristina: Death.
Jack: Death, most likely.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He leaves that part out.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, it looks. It looks great. When you look, you don't see the results.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Hey, everybody, eat the fruit. You'll know everything if it doesn't kill you. Is the whole sentence.
Cristina: Yes. Okay.
Jack: You know.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's really the whole sentence. Hey, everybody, eat the fruit. You'll know everything. And then he just, like, you know, mumbled the rest of it. Hey, everybody. Everybody, eat the fruit. You'll know everything. And.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know, and it's like, what?
Cristina: We had, like, a giant contract, you Gotta accept. But you don't read all the terms. And somewhere in the back it was like.
Jack: And it was, it wasn't even in the back. It was just really exceptionally small and in parentheses and in the corner so it looks like an explanation to some other. And you're like, well no, I, I understood. I don't have to read the explanation because they lie to you. And like the first five times you see that same format of really tiny in parentheses in the corner. It was an explanation. And you tuned out by the third one. But the fourth one, that's the one that was actually the unrelated true clause.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That you never read because you tuned out. You're like, it's more explanations. And that was clear enough. You know, just.
Cristina: That's exactly what happened.
Jack: That's exactly what he does. He's just smart enough to. He's Fox versus cnm. It's the same information. But you know, he decided to just say but I give you information all the time. And like nothing else.
Cristina: He's as bad as our journalism.
Jack: He's. He's as bad as our journalism. A thousand percent.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That is a fact. I mean. But all sides are. Everybody's just painting their picture.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. Yeah.
Jack: We can't trust any of it. We've even come across any of this information grabbing a thousand different sources at the same time and cross reference all of it. Because everybody's lying all the time. Only what everybody agrees on can we say is true. The rest is twisted by everybody.
Cristina: That's a lot.
Jack: Yeah. Basically, if it's about group A, I need to see what group B and C say. Because group A lied about it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And it can't. If group A is talking about group B then I can't ask group B either. I have to look at what group C and D believe about the situation between group A and B. It's the only way I can tell the truth. Cuz both those m************ are gonna be biased as f***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's the only way to ever get data.
Cristina: And that's two will also be a little bit biased because they're getting something out of it.
Jack: Yes. They only wrote it down because of the benefit to.
Cristina: So you know. Exactly.
Jack: You gotta get far enough. That's the problem. If you get too far, the information falls apart. And if you get too close, well, the information falls apart. It's just all lies.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: So you need to have this medium of like, I'm far enough that it's not just propaganda and I'm close enough that it's not just random gibberish.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So it's like a cohesive. I can get enough at this distance, perspectives. It looks right. And I get a whole image, which is a pain in the a** that we have to do this all the time.
Cristina: But what's our job?
Jack: It's literally our job. What the f*** else can we do? How else are we supposed to get to the bottom of the truth of the situation?
Cristina: Well, we did it, though. I think.
Jack: I think. I think. Yeah.
Cristina: Unless Jesus pops up.
Jack: I don't know. Well, that's the next problem here, Right? And you know what's really weird about it? But it kind of means the Bible's not lying. Let's think about it. Creatures from the shadow realm, what we would describe as h*** in a Bible roll up.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: They begin what we would describe as the Apocalypse. Although it's happened before from our point of view, it's gonna satisfy that idea because they're gonna try to eat everything in Earth on Earth. Not literally eat, but, you know, kill us through experimentation and enslave us. And essentially h*** on Earth for just humans.
Cristina: Okay, Right.
Jack: But then Jesus shows up again. Again is the key word, because it would be again. And so him showing up is like, well, I'mma do what? I'm going to save the people. Specifically, who will? His people and everybody else who isn't the creatures that came from our proverbial h***. Weirdly enough, that's the apocalypse in the Bible. What the f***? But who said it would happen? F****** Jesus. The psychic.
Cristina: That. Yes. Okay. So, like, I also know that that's gonna happen.
Jack: Yes. He knew the whole time. He called it all.
Cristina: I mean. Yeah, that's part of being a necromancer. Yes.
Jack: He just. This is meaningless to him. He knows. He just kind of smacked them around casually whenever he feels bored enough to get involved.
Cristina: For that stone. Maybe.
Jack: He's gonna let them make it, isn't he?
Cristina: Yeah, I think so. Because he's also a neutral party after the disaster. And then we're like, yes, finally. He's finally here to save us or whatever. But it's like, it's really for that stone.
Jack: Yeah. He's gonna stop the rest from happening. But he's like, yeah, the Alicians.
Cristina: Yeah. Like he doesn't care.
Jack: He doesn't give a. He specifically hates them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The Alicia. Yes. No stone. Will he ever want more than that stone?
Cristina: The one out of the people he hates the most.
Jack: Yes. He's been waiting for this day.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He probably been casually feeding these Information to come and take that stone, make it themselves.
Cristina: And she's like, this all probably started with him somehow.
Jack: Yeah, he. I mean, so he called it at the beginning. He literally said every part of it and every part is happening. And he. I mean, he said it's the master plan.
Cristina: Well, this is probably how he got the stone in the Shadow Realms.
Jack: Easily.
Cristina: Because he too overpowered. Yes, but, like, the shadow people in that place are probably shadow people he met during that adventure or whatever. Like, how did he get it? Like, how did he walk in? Did, like, what. What happened to those things that were there? Maybe those were his armies. Because we know he did bring back people. He brought back people?
Jack: Yes, he did. He brought two stones and he brought back people. Yeah. It's a craft.
Cristina: Those could be the sh. Those same shadow people there right now might be his people that he brought back in that moment.
Jack: S***. You know specifically who he brought back. Prisoners of Yahweh.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: S***.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Oh, s***. Oh, man. That's on point. Wow.
Cristina: It all goes back. It does all make sense.
Jack: It does all make.
Cristina: It does make sense. Oh, my gosh. Of course he knows what's gonna happen. Those are. He planned it.
Jack: He planned it. Every part.
Cristina: He's waiting for it to happen.
Jack: Not even waiting. He could have blinked. For him, it could have been a split second. From being over there to being at the other end in the future. At some point, I'm like, okay, now let me collect the stone.
Cristina: Yeah, it's all for the stone. And we're just going to be cool with it because, like, it's Jesus.
Jack: It's. Jesus is going to roll up and be like, that was. Yeah, this was part of my plan.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we're all going to like, oh, yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: Like, who's going to say anything? Yeah, nothing's gonna happen.
Jack: Yeah, we're gonna be like.
Cristina: People are gonna freak out and we're gonna have, like, people killing each other. Well, yeah, there's no. No one's gonna stop him.
Jack: And he's literally just gonna prove he's Jesus.
Cristina: Yeah, he's not gonna.
Jack: Like, he doesn't care. He's probably, like, I'm sure Hermes consistently all that. He didn't show anybody how to become. That's different. He had to. You gotta be. You know, you gotta acquire the knowledge to learn how to become a necromancer.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But I'm sure he gladly showed everybody how he was a necromancer. You know, just like, oh, that's why the Jesus with the f****** walk on water and wine things casually. These guys bringing people back from the.
Cristina: Dead just to show.
Jack: Just for show. Yeah, magic tricks of all sorts. Bread and fish and this and that.
Cristina: And it's like, okay, it's gonna be the Messiah. The show all over again.
Jack: Yeah, man. No, I think, I think. Well, it's complicated, isn't it? He really did plan the whole f****** thing. It lines up.
Cristina: Yeah. He's gonna pop up and talked about it.
Jack: He said, oh, yeah, it's gonna happen and there's nothing any of you could do about it.
Cristina: And like his people, he brought them there. They're not just shadow. They're just not random shadow realm people that said, hey, we're gonna protect you. No, they were his specific shadow realm people that told us that they're gonna protect us because he told them to say that.
Jack: Yeah. And he'll easily get rid of the problem.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: This is effortless. You could control everybody effortlessly. They swear this part. They swear this. This is their plan too, I bet. Yeah. I don't think they're word. They think, oh, we're working with Jesus. I think they think this is their plan.
Cristina: Yeah. He brought them back and they're like, yeah, this is what he wanted and that's it. But they're not questioning why. Or maybe they are, who knows? But that's so crazy because he knew and they're not gonna do anything about it.
Jack: No, it's nuts. This is crazy, man. He specifically saved the prisoners of Yahweh, which are the Jews of Yahweh. The tide with Yahweh. He was just. Yo, that's crazy.
Cristina: Then they have to know his plan. They are not just protecting those people out of an agreement to make them into stone. Like it has to be because Jesus want that. And they know the plan is to turn him into a stone so Jesus can have it. He saved them. The he. They must have a deal with him. He's the true devil at the crossroads.
Jack: Yeah. He is the devil at the crossroad. He's the top of it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Oh. Oh, d***. That makes perfect sense. Well, whatever. We are out of time. But crazy.
Cristina: I understand why the people were afraid. Now we see it.
Jack: Now we see it. Now we see it.
Cristina: Them.
Jack: Yeah. Well, that group of sea people.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We might actually see the whole situation.
Cristina: That might be the step to the end of all of them. The first step to the end of all of them.
Jack: Well, it depends, because we still have the people, the sea people at the bottom of the island. They still had the same amount of time to work on their tank.
Cristina: They don't have a stone made out of themselves. That's the most powerful thing I've ever imagined.
Jack: S***. You're totally right. You're totally right, Bear.
Cristina: He has so many. And then he's gonna have this one.
Jack: No, to be honest, the other problem is. No, let me. S***, we gotta get out of here. But you brought up so many points. No, no, no. Let me f****** address this real quick because you're totally right on so many cases. First, the Elysians don't have a stone. Jesus stole all of them. After somehow the shadow people acquired them.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The Elysians have no stones. First problem. Problem number two, we're just talking about the ones we know created. But keep in mind we know about others. We're not even addressing twin towers going down. That was definitely one being made. Same people on both sides involved. World War II. Same people on both sides involved. It's always the same groups of people always making the same thing. And so we're assuming all of these stones are owned by the same people at this time.
Cristina: Which is Jesus.
Jack: Which is Jesus. Afraid, like. Yeah, there's no chance. You're totally right. There's no chance any elation is stepping up. There's no chance.
Cristina: Jesus has been making stones all this whole time. All these things have been. It's just him and his people that he has here, disguised as us.
Jack: Alternatively, desperate times, desperate measures, they went into two different directions.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: The people who went west can definitely at this very moment be making pure Elysian stones. If they've gone mad with the need to retaliate. A caste system naturally evolved, and the bottom of the caste system is still equally pure DNA. But now you're the people who will be used to create stones. I'm sure a single Elysian stone, a pure one person Elysian stone, is quite powerful. I'm not saying super, but I'm saying equivalent to like a weak human stone. I think if you have an entire caste system that you can throw, say a hundred thousand people into and say you guys are all the stone and they already have a stone. Assuming they would devolve into that. We don't know how big the civilization is down there. Yeah, it would have had to expand underneath the water over 100,000 years, probably quite significantly. So who knows?
Cristina: Who knows? It's possible, but we don't.
Jack: Also, is Bioshock loosely based on what's happening there? Just saying. Anyways, totally random. Just thought about it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yeah. Mad stones. And I Don't even remember what my other point was.
Cristina: The Elysians might be having a plan, a backup plan.
Jack: Oh, s***. The people who went north, that's the backup plan. Because what's north? A group of what?
Cristina: Nepalem.
Jack: Nephilim. Is anything more f****** overpowered than a pure clean nephilim, which is a clean 50.50cut of human and deletion DNA.
Cristina: But that is what Gaza is.
Jack: That is not what Gaza is. Gaza is more diluted. It has to be 50. 50.
Cristina: Has to be 50. 50. Okay.
Jack: And that is what exists up north. If they trap and isolate that, then.
Cristina: They have a nice stone and then.
Jack: Breed that over the same amount of time. Keep in mind these groups of people are thinking in their time scales and.
Cristina: We don't know why they didn't stop. Like, we know that they know about those people, but haven't done anything to them, so it could happen. They're just letting them breed in that one specific location just in case of. Yes, there was always a backup. Okay. Oh, my gosh.
Jack: Okay, so just theories, you know, just talking about things. There's direction here.
Cristina: Interesting. Interesting. What? What? Craziness. Okay, so there's more. It's not just an easy word for Jesus.
Jack: At least.
Cristina: For Jesus, at least.
Jack: Yeah, there isn't. And it's definitely. You know, it's gonna get crazy. It's gonna get wild in some time.
Cristina: Okay, well, we can all just wait until that happens, I guess. I don't know. Because no one has a real plan anyway.
Jack: And, I mean, I'm sure the plan is being worked on.
Cristina: Besides the people that are trying to escape, everybody.
Jack: Yeah, I'm sure there's people trying to escape. There's the possible retaliation from the Elysian side, but we might. Ha. Man, if there's a can't. It sucks either way. It sucks either way. If this is real and this really happens, it doesn't matter who wins. We're f*****. It would have to be Jesus wins. If the Shadow People win, which I guess. No, it's Jesus. No, it wouldn't suck both ways, because Jesus would stop the Shadow People. They've. They're gonna be tossed away. Easy. He explained that plan. Yes, but no, he still knows what's gonna happen. The Alicians can't beat the plan. They think they can. Yeah, but he saw that fail too. He saw their plan. He saw their plan. He's a necromancer. He knows it worked. He's been on the other side. He saw it. That's why it doesn't matter.
Cristina: I don't know. Maybe he hasn't seen that specific plan.
Jack: Everything has come true. That's overpowered. Come on. That's pretty.
Cristina: Maybe they're so secretive about that plan that they don't really have that as a plan.
Jack: But how? He's psychic. He could just. He still knows that.
Cristina: That could be.
Jack: Unless they're somehow blocking it out.
Cristina: Yeah, they can't. I don't know.
Jack: Well, I still don't know if his psychic ability allows him to zone in on people like that, but I don't know. Anyways. Anyways, if you guys. Yeah, there's a lot. There's too much. If you guys have any information that you want to give us on any of this, if you guys have any perspectives or data or any. Anything you want to talk about, you could do that. Hit us up on our social medias. You can communicate with us doing that at just Convo pod that's on Tik Tok, Facebook, Instagram X.
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Jack: Yes. And word of mouth is the most overpowered thing that's existed in all of history. And look, I always think this s***'s almost ending, and then another door opens and then it's infinite.
Cristina: You'll never do. Never close. It will never close.
Jack: It will never close. And it makes only more sense as time goes by. It's maddening.
Cristina: Yes, this has been the Rambling podcast. Take Nothing Personal and thanks for listening by.
Jack: Sa.
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