Rambling 238: The Blood Libel

Who performs the Blood Libel? What does it mean? What is the Significance of the Child Eater Fountain? The duo becomes aware of the Child Eater Fountain in Switzerland, a statue of unknown origin depicting a child eating demon. The investigation into the origins of this statue opens up some interesting doors not before known of and perhaps provides insight into another civilization with highly advanced technologies.

Rambling 238: The Blood Libel

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Topics Discussed

  • Child Eater Fountain
  • Ritual Murder
  • The Blood Libel
  • Matzos
  • Adrenalized Flesh
  • The Power of Matzo
  • Rabbi Judah
  • The Voice of God
  • Dragging Spirits from the Shadow Realm
  • Creature from the Shadow Realm
  • Teleportation Between Realms
  • Josef the Golem
  • Three Robed Men
  • Six Mysterious Boxes

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And today, in continuation to this infinite seeming rabbit hole that we keep falling down.

Cristina: There's more.

Jack: There's more. So no need for a recap. Every episode has frequent recap. Just go listen to the beginning of a different episode and then come back.

Cristina: We'll probably recap it somewhere in this episode.

Jack: Yeah, there's gonna be discussion trying to refine our ideas as we move forward with the information that I have uncovered. But let us begin in Switzerland.

Cristina: What's there?

Jack: Switzerland has a statue. A statue of some sort of creature eating children.

Cristina: It's not a person, it's a creature.

Jack: It's some sort of a creature eating children.

Cristina: Is there a story to it? Like is it from a child story or something?

Jack: Well, people who stare at it and don't do any research on it just believe it's Krumpus. Oh, eating kids.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Also, what is Krumpus? If Krampus eats children, that kind of falls in line with a lot of things, but story for a different day.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Right. So I thought that it's interesting that there's a statue of a creature eating children that you know, probably something we should be looking at considering of everything we talk about. It's not Krampus. It's definitely not Krumpus.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Otherwise I would start there.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But it's not. It's a creature eating children. Which then tells us we should look at it because it probably connects to the bigger picture.

Cristina: Yeah. What does it look like?

Jack: It looks like some sort of a demon. So this statue of some sort of.

Cristina: A thing reminds me of those things in the Christmas time that you put the nuts in.

Jack: A nutcracker.

Cristina: A nutcracker.

Jack: It's definitely not a nutcracker.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But the colors are very Christmassy, which made people think related to Santa Crumpus Krampus has Christmasy Christmas colors. So this demon statue is called Kindle Frisserbrunnen. The Kindle Frisserbrunnen. It is Swiss German. A Swiss German word. It doesn't mean anything. It means child eater fountain.

Cristina: Oh, very strange. Okay.

Jack: Yeah. So as you look at the Kindle Frisser Brennan, you notice a couple of interesting details. One is that reddish, very Santa Claus robe.

Cristina: It has funny looking hat.

Jack: It's eating A child. It has an interesting hat. It's eating one child, and it has a bag of more children with more children.

Cristina: Fits the whole, like, Christmasy theme. That has a bag.

Jack: Yes, yes. Not only that, we had a saint with children in barrels.

Cristina: Santa Claus.

Jack: Exactly. So there's. There's. There's consistency here.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So it's easy to see why people would think Krampus. It's Krampus.

Cristina: Yeah, I see.

Jack: It's absolutely easy to see that it's.

Cristina: Like Santa Claus eating children.

Jack: So details about it. It's eating one child, and it has a bag on its side to its left with other children in the bag. Yep. Interesting detail about this is, as you pointed out, the hat.

Cristina: What type of hat is that?

Jack: That hat is a nightmare to track down, but it's a very specific hat, really. So the only thing giving us any clues about what this is is that hat. Everything else here is telling us what somebody wearing that hat would do, but the hat is telling us who. Fascinating. So I had to go down quite the complicated rabbit hole in order to find what hat looks exactly like that.

Cristina: I really want to know. I'm curious.

Jack: And there are many, many, many, many, many hats throughout the world.

Cristina: We're gonna find out. It's like the Pope's hat or something.

Jack: Many religious hats throughout the world. And that specific hat is called a Juden hut.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The Juden hut that this demon is wearing is the traditional Jewish cap.

Cristina: That's so horrible. Okay.

Jack: Details surrounding this statue.

Cristina: It's racist.

Jack: It was founded, it was funded by an unknown contributor. They don't know who paid for this statue. It was there to replace the original old fountain that was there. It was just a withered, regular, basic fountain, and they replaced it with this. They don't know who paid to have it, and they don't know who provided the blueprints for the statue.

Cristina: And people were just like, okay, this is an interesting statue. Let's keep it.

Jack: It was free.

Cristina: Like,

Jack: The statue is representing something very, very, very specific, which, like, the hat is a freaking nightmare to track down. But as a researcher, I tracked it down. What we're witnessing being performed is called the blood labelle.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The blood label is ritual murder.

Cristina: And who's doing these rituals? It's the Jews.

Jack: The Jews. That's why it's a Jewish hat.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's a Jewish demon eating children. So it's a blood ritual performed by the Jewish community. What does the ritual entail? Well, the blood ritual is done to extract blood from young children to Use in as the prime ingredient in a matzo.

Cristina: What is that?

Jack: This is gonna blow your freaking mind. A matzo is a flatbread. It's a flatbread which is eaten during Passover. Wait, let's think about this real quick. There's another Jew famous for trying to get you to eat some bread and claiming that it is something flesh.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. He was feeding people children blood. Oh, man. We knew he was into blood, but. Whoa, Whoa. Jesus.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Whoa. What was he doing? What was he. He was making cults like.

Jack: And he is already a person with magical abilities due to his nature of being created essentially as a. As a science experiment. So he has these special abilities and his culture already has this thing about blood.

Cristina: He needs them to drink his blood, not his blood. He needs his followers to drink blood to get. Be connected to him.

Jack: His blood is very different than the blood from this. But in general, they will all have abilities relative because it's all adrenochrome, whether it be nectar, ambrosia or icha.

Cristina: Yeah. He didn't even have to use his own blood, though he could. He was probably using children blood.

Jack: His blood was for his disciples.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But he had blood for others.

Cristina: I see.

Jack: That's why his disciples these days, who has abilities? Nobody has abilities. But in those days, anybody related to him in any manner, shape or form had abilities. Yeah, that tells us a lot. People getting his blood had special, special abilities. Not just immortality. Not just youth. Not just moving over to the shadow realm. We're talking performing what we have grown to label miracles. Meanwhile, random other people just get the immortal life and the youth and the this and the that. The normal stuff, the vampiric nature of it. There you go. They become vampires. No crazy extra abilities, just vampires.

Cristina: That is so crazy. And what from this hat?

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Details about this ritual that became very interesting very quickly. In order to extract the blood from these children, a decapitation is performed and they are placed on an anti cross the way you would place a chicken on a string hanging after you cut its head so it would bleed out.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It was a crucifixion every time.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And they specifically said that the suffering enhances the flavor and purity of the matzo.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Very adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes. Is there an explanation of why they were eating these masks? Like, did they have.

Jack: Yes, we would get there.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: That is the point of this. So the matzah. The eating of the matzah began upon the Jewish exodus from Egypt, with the logic behind it being that it Symbolizes freedom from the constraints of the rule of Egyptians and very specifically their unholy technologies against, and I quote, the voice of God.

Cristina: Technology against the Egyptians. Technology.

Jack: Yes. These unpure advancements that the voice of our God has told us is bad.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: We know they're listening to something and I think we know who it has to be. Jehovah of dark. Because that's the guy beforehand, that's the guy that has an issue with a lot of this. Because Jehovah of light is the one making these technologies.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Egyptians technology. Okay. Whoa.

Jack: So fascinating. Okay. In ancient. This is real specific. Everything I just got is from a combination of biblical texts and personal accounts. Now, everything I'm about to explain right now has been expunged from current day texts, but can be found in certain texts. The parts that are not just firsthand accounts and the parts that are first hand accounts are not in biblical text. These are by people.

Cristina: By people around that time?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So matzos were consumed. The blood of those who consumed it was poured over an inanimate mud and CLAY Golem giant, 15 to 20ft in size. So let me repeat this.

Cristina: Yes. That makes no sense.

Jack: The blood of the people who consumed the matzos was then poured over a mud and clay sculpture of a golem giant that was about 15 to 20ft in size.

Cristina: The people eating these things, the people.

Jack: Who eat the matzo, those people would then pour their blood onto a clay sculpture.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Of a golem, very giant golem, about 15, 20ft in size.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: Yeah. The first of which was named Joseph of Prague.

Cristina: The person or the golem?

Jack: The golem.

Cristina: These things became alive or something.

Jack: Well, let us discuss the activity before we move forward.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The people who consume the matzo pour their blood over the golem.

Cristina: And this golem is just a thing.

Jack: Made out of mud, clay and mud.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The people who consume the matzo. We've only heard about this another time. Do you know what we're talking about?

Cristina: No.

Jack: It's ichor.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: They consumed a food of adrenochrome and then their body distilled.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Now they use the ichor and give that to the sculpture.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Fascinating.

Cristina: That is it.

Jack: Ichor, as we know, has the capacity to straight out kill a mortal. It's potent.

Cristina: Potent, but not to these. Well, I don't even know what's happening.

Jack: Well, let us move forward. The blood would then bring life to the sculpture. Very important quote.

Cristina: This is kind of insane.

Jack: Very important quote. This part is in texts that are no longer in current day scripture.

Cristina: Yes, but they're like talking.

Jack: Listen, that what I'm about to tell you is in scripture that is no longer in current day scripture. The blood would then bring to life the sculpture, and I quote, dragging souls into it from a realm unknown.

Cristina: Oh, probably the shadow realm.

Jack: That's what I'm thinking.

Cristina: That's how they're coming through here. Instead of using, like, gates or whatever. I mean, I guess this is before Jesus was making gates.

Jack: This is before Jesus was making gates.

Cristina: They're using golems. Okay, this is crazy. This is crazy that they caused whatever Egypt was doing. Advanced evil technology.

Jack: Well, they were being told it's evil technology.

Cristina: Yes. And then they're calling this normal technology. I don't understand.

Jack: And then they're. They're figuring how to do these things from the voice of God that they can only hear because they've consumed adrenochrome.

Cristina: What are they using these gums or did they explain it?

Jack: Like we're gonna get there?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: As it stands, it looks like they're pulling somehow using ichor. They're somehow dragging things from the shadow realm. That's absolute madness. So as opposed to creatures from the shadow realm coming willingly, depending on fear on this end, or people consuming adrenochrome things and moving over when they die to the shadow realm, we have an actual account for the first time of forcefully bringing something from the shadow realm over.

Cristina: That's pretty crazy.

Jack: Almost like a summoning of a demon of sorts. Which then makes me wonder if all the other accounts of summoning demons, when we have these pentagrams on the ground and we do these little rituals and we pour some blood on the thing isn't essentially doing exactly the same thing. It's a way of dragging things from the shadow realm forcefully. It seems like earthrealm and the shadow realm are so entangled in a sort.

Cristina: Of way that is very strange how we do summon things. Our people do try to summon things from over there. What if you get more control over the thing by giving it a body? I don't get it.

Jack: Interesting, right? Yeah, because this is what we don't have, people summoning anything. As far as we know. We haven't seen them summon anything. We've seen them go through to the other side, usually after death. Or we've got Mount Kaf that allows them to cross over. We have the Jesus Gates that allows them to come through from the other side. We have Soma, which allows them to cross over after death. Presumably just like adrenochrome There are ways, there are methods. Unicorn blood allows you to again accomplish the same thing. The fruits allows you to. The fruit of flesh allows you to do the same exact thing. But it seems after you die, you cross over. Now we have people in earthrealm just somehow bringing these, bringing the things back. Why was this more hidden than anything else we found?

Cristina: Because it sounds crazy. Yeah.

Jack: Why was this harder to find? Why are they suppressing the fact that we could bring. I guess it would be a horrible problem if we started bringing. Should have from over there. Over.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's less problematic if we just die.

Cristina: Their job, though, they bring things into people and then they get rid of those things to scare people. At least the church does that. They do bring demons into people's bodies.

Jack: Yes. And then they catch demon out of exorcism. But the question is, are they bringing the demons into these bodies? For sure, we know that they're making things, which follows what the sea people do. We know Catholicism is basically a sect of the sea people controlling the Christian ideology that spun out of control, but without counting the things that are happening that they're making. Because it's just in their nature to make things and work with science and the occult or whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Outside of that. Is a possession from a little girl in some random abandoned village their fault? Or is that just some s*** that went down and we're watching shadow realm creatures get trapped inside physical things. And then because the sea people are very aware, they have these priests and they're like, okay, use what we know and go get rid of it.

Cristina: It could be.

Jack: I think those are two different things. I think monsters and creatures are them making s*** that gets out of control. And I think these possessions are shadow realm creatures.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Getting trapped inside physical beings. I think based on this, we have made a distinction.

Cristina: Yes, I see.

Jack: Because they do go out of their way to get rid of the things that they let escape. I don't think they're making them in order to increase faith. I think there's just too much going on and s*** just gets out of control once in a while.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then they go solve the problem.

Cristina: And yeah, they have the power to do the power.

Jack: They're not scared. But then a demon gets trapped, quote, demon unquote, gets trapped inside of a body. What is that? That's a f****** gin. Trapped inside a mortal body. And so go get rid of it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just happens casually, somebody particularly scared. Something horrible happens. Usually something horrible happens leading to this.

Cristina: Those are, yeah, very random. Not like this golem Thing where you're actually.

Jack: Well, that's the other side of this. People make rituals. They do diabolical. Well, quote, diabolical things, unquote. And then they get possessed because they bring a demon from the other side. Where's the other side? It's probably the shadow realm.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you bring this thing and boom, trapped it inside you. Now you're thinking it was gonna help you. No, I just wanted to be over here.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting. Yes.

Jack: What Interesting.

Cristina: The whole golem thing is weird, though. They're just having. But like. Okay, so they pour it on the golem, and then the golem, they want it to come alive or actually comes alive.

Jack: So this ritual is performed every seven years to erect a new golem. And interesting. Usually we come across the Egyptians and the Mayan. In this case, the Greek and the Egyptian, both in different texts, say that they've had their children taken and sacrificed by the Jewish communities for these purposes.

Cristina: For these golems.

Jack: For these golems.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: These are two communities that don't agree.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The Egyptian side with the sea people, the creek don't. They're under their thumb.

Cristina: Yeah. They're just trading with them pretty much.

Jack: They're like, we have the obligation to deal with you guys, but we don't like you guys. But then they all agree on this one thing. The Jews are stealing our children and making golems with their f****** blood.

Cristina: That's what they say. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: I found that in both.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So using old Jewish testimonies and accounts, a rabbi named Judah, known as the Maharal, is the guy who made Joseph the golem, the first of them.

Cristina: Okay, what was it for?

Jack: The golem had the ability to make himself invisible. Interesting enough. I don't know what use this is. Just some details. The ability. This is the most freaking important part about this golem's abilities. It had the ability to bring spirits from the dead or a realm unknown.

Cristina: A realm unknown. Okay. What?

Jack: The golem can bring creatures from elsewhere. Now, would you like to know what these are like?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because there's three very different statements.

Cristina: But are those the whole powers. That's it.

Jack: It's just really big, really strong, the usual you'd expect from a golem. And then the special abilities of it can go invisible, and it could bring spirits from the dead or a realm unknown. Okay, now I say dead or realm unknown. The things we find consistently say one or the other, not both. It doesn't say both the dead and a realm unknown.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's like sometimes it's the dead, sometimes it's a realm unknown. Okay, now the spirits. I was like, huh? Huh? Was this some revisiting of some old. Here. The spirits of wild beasts. So it differentiates wild beasts from wolves and monsters. Wild beasts, wolves and monsters. Two kinds of wolves we're familiar with. That come from the Shadow Realm?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. These are the. The spirits that the golem brings. While the golem is doing its thing, it's surrounded by these twisted, contorted spirits from the other place. Okay, the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: That is interesting. Do they have control of these things?

Jack: I don't know if they have control of them. I just know they could bring them. Chances are there's some. Something about this golem radiates enough fear to manifest these things that rely entirely on fear to come through. I don't know. It doesn't. It's like it doesn't need fear to summon these things that we formerly thought could only come through with fear.

Cristina: Yeah, they're their own type of portal.

Jack: Yes, they. Exactly. The golem itself is an interesting kind of portal of sorts that brings or allows things from the Shadow Realm through.

Cristina: And some of the scariest things, the.

Jack: Scariest, most f***** s***. A windingo, a wetchudge. I don't even care what the f***. The. Well, werewolf is from this side. It's from Earth.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: That's just the wolf. The adrenochrome. That's already only over here. Yeah, but when Dingo and a wetchudge. That's a f****** nightmare happening. I don't even care what they mean by monsters or what they mean by beasts. You don't get more f***** than a Windingo and a wet judge. The spirit of wolves. Get the f*** out of here. Yeah, that's a problem. So you got this giant golem 15 to 20ft. It could just phase away in front of you. But here's my. Here's my theory about this. What? It could just go invisible? That doesn't check out. That doesn't make sense.

Cristina: What, that a mud thing moves around and can turn it.

Jack: Well, no, let's be clear about what I'm talking about. Things are phasing in from the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: So it's phasing out into the Shadow Realm.

Jack: Into the Shadow Realm. I think they have the way to and from.

Cristina: Yes, that makes sense. That's how it's bringing them.

Jack: That's how it's bringing them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, they have a way to and from. We have not found this before. We found ways over there. And Jesus has the portals from over there. Fear usually brings you through.

Cristina: Okay. It's a video game. There's a video game where you go into space and weird stuff happens. But anyway, in this video game, outer world, you go on a rock and it disappears. And wherever it disappears to, you disappear too. Like, is this mud creature like that rock?

Jack: Why would it be like that rock? I don't understand.

Cristina: Like, it has whatever that. That thing is based on real science. That rock?

Jack: Yeah. You're talking about. Not entanglement. Superposition.

Cristina: Yes. Is it possible Golem is like that? Or does it have to be in this reality no matter what?

Jack: Well, yeah. Superposition is a physical world type of thing.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: The shadow realm is not.

Cristina: Okay, never mind. It did remind. I don't know, it just reminded me of that rock.

Jack: But regardless.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It seems to be phasing out. Invisible is how they would describe it because they don't know what's happening.

Cristina: But it's probably just.

Jack: It's probably just popping over there, over there.

Cristina: Like everything else that goes from there to here, it seems like.

Jack: Except it could go from over here over there. Now, let me explain how interesting it is that this was harder to find than most of what I've found. When the point of Jesus being created at all was for what?

Cristina: To go in and out.

Jack: To go in and out. And the Jews found a way to go in and out, at least of the shadow realm. Jesus needs portals to come back.

Cristina: Yeah, but they're not actually using these things to go in and out.

Jack: No, they have a thing that could. Well, the point of Jesus was a thing that itself could go in and out.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And the Jews have that at least.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To and from the shadow realm. And Jesus, to some degree, there's more than one group accomplishing things here.

Cristina: Very strange. But there's like. It's not like they purposely or they have any clue that this is what's going on.

Jack: We were talking last week about how do we find out the progress that's being made in the shadow realm relative to getting either over here or making it to Elfhame. I think this is insight to that. I think Jehovah of Light and Jehovah of Dark are roughly making the same amount of progress.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: They both have a method that's more or less the same when you think of it, that allows them to go.

Cristina: Through, but they're not using these ways to go through.

Jack: They have things that go through. Yeah, they're still experimenting.

Cristina: They haven't figured it out.

Jack: Which Is the goal. If they already had it figured out, they wouldn't be experimenting to figure it out. It wouldn't make any sense. Obviously, they're running the experiments and they sometimes have things that could do it. Jesus Christ and the golem Joseph have the same more or less abilities. And it seems like Joseph is more successful. What, because he can just phase back in and out?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Jesus can't just phase over there. Interesting. He had to die before he could do that. Joseph could just do that. But Joseph is made with dead people.

Cristina: Yes, he made it with. And he's probably not a conscious being. He's more like a zombie. Probably.

Jack: Well, actually, it does express that he's sort of a thinking creature. Why, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. A couple of stories that I didn't list here to discuss were one, that he even falls in love. There are definitely ideas to this being a sentient thinking creature, conscious behavior. Yes. But that being said, Jesus dies, comes back, but he eventually discovers a couple of things. I think he, through the course of science himself, figured out that maybe he can come back and forward. And that's why he can pop up here, pop up there. It's not just teleportation. Locally, he might later in his life, after quote the death unquote, have achieved what Joseph does.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Which is go in and out. Yes, go in and out.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: It took some working and he had, luckily the gates built ahead of time. Knowing what would happen. He comes through and then worked longer until he figured it out. And then he can come in now. Come in effortless.

Cristina: Do you know what happens to Joseph? Does he die?

Jack: Well, we'll get there. So we have his abilities and we have the interesting detail that Joseph is probably a creature that can travel through two dimensions.

Cristina: That's insane. I thought he was just a thing going back and forth, but he's not just a thing.

Jack: Yeah, he's a creature thinking.

Cristina: What? That changes everything. That's.

Jack: Well, that makes the next part a little dark. So Joseph would be deactivated every single weekend. The rabbi, not being able to supervise it because he would be attending Sabbath, didn't want Joseph to be acting outside of his supervision. So he came up with an incantation that was performed to restrain the physical being of Joseph. It's speculated that the incantation was performed on a blanket which would cover the golem completely, rendering him inanimate again. But the spirit that was captured inside would stay.

Cristina: Okay, Weird. What?

Jack: I will rephrase. That incantation is essentially, Joseph was given a blanket that's enchanted it's magic.

Cristina: A magic?

Jack: Like a magic blanket. The rabbi figured out how to use magic and used magic to enable. To disable. To disable a spirit from the shadow realm.

Cristina: Did they mention, like, he was giving it. He got that from whatever their God is or.

Jack: There's no explanation as to how the rabbi figured these things out. Okay, there's no explanation, but the assumption is the obvious one. Yes. He's probably being told because he's told, these people are told that the technology of the Egyptians is unholy.

Cristina: Mm. So crazy. With this thing made out of blood and mud.

Jack: It's totally, you know, the righteous path or whatever the f***.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So, yeah. Which sounds more or less like the brainwashing that Jesus went through. Right? Maybe Jesus wasn't brainwashed. He's like, my people f***** me over. F*** them. Who knows what the story there is?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But. Yeah. So the golem would be disabled every weekend, and the spirit would be contained. Now the golem would be disabled in the attic of the synagogue. That's where it was always disabled. And only the successor of the rabbi was allowed in the attic as a result. Now let us go to where this gets weirdly interesting. Like, it's not already.

Cristina: Yeah, I was going to, like, what, what's. Okay.

Jack: In 1883. Long, long, long later. Let me give you some time frames, by the way. Jesus happened year one to year 33. Ish. Right. Okay, great, Sweet. This rabbi is happening in the 15. In. In 1919, in the 1500s.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's still way recent. Way recent by comparison.

Cristina: This was before Jesus time.

Jack: Well, weirdly enough, the information that led to them making the matzo out of the children came from the time of Jesus, apparently was learned and taught by Moses.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: And it disappeared into time, presumably because the Knights Templar went on a crazy rampage to erase it from history. And then some scholars, some Jewish scholars uncovered it, and then they connected with God that continued to direct them. So they consumed it after they did the thing, and they started to hear the voice of God, and then he continued to guide them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But in the time of Moses, he was also told that the technology of the Egyptians were unholy. That was put into writing. That's the scripture that was then uncovered, and that is the information that these people have.

Cristina: So Moses didn't have golems.

Jack: Moses does not have golems.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: This. The way to create a golem was taught by the voice of God to these newer people. Newer people. While Moses knew how to make the matzo in order to achieve A form of immortality.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Craziness, okay, that's to clarify. So that's the 1500s. The rabbi lives his life. He eventually dies, dies, like 1590 ish. Now it's 1883. Long time has passed. Shortly before the synagogue is renovated, a group of fully robed individuals, it's unknown whether they are men or women, fully robed, top to bottom, visited and stayed for three days and three nights in the synagogue. It was closed off. These people showed up and stayed. People were like, okay, I don't know what the h*** is happening, but they were there for three days, three nights, and then they left the premises.

Cristina: Simple, okay?

Jack: Now the attic of the synagogue has been closed off because of the Golem. It's a holy ground that nobody's allowed to walk into.

Cristina: Okay? They don't use the golem at all.

Jack: The golem hasn't been used. The only people allowed ever up there were the rabbi and his successor. That's it. Nobody else. So following these people leaving and during the renovation, no evidence is found of the Golem. So they don't know. Maybe it was a lie, maybe it was a bullshit. Sorry, whatever the case, yeah, but the three men were followed as they arrived and left with six black boxes, small boxes, you know, maybe. Maybe a foot, a square foot each, and six square boxes. Each one carried two. Three men, three boxes. I mean, six boxes, three nights, three days in the synagogue. They. Nobody knows who the h*** they are. They came, they left. So the men are followed because it's actually some thieves that record this next part because they wanted the boxes.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: They don't know what the h*** the boxes were, but when the guys arrived, they were watching them. That's why the same reason the thieves never reported to people staying at the synagogue.

Cristina: Okay? Because they were planning, like, maybe this is the best time to.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. So then they follow these people that became of interest to these thieves and they followed them to a place in Ziskov, there's a graveyard. They follow these men to a graveyard in Ziskov where they are then witnessed burying the six boxes. And they bury the boxes in a very specific formation. There are three in a horizontal line, one in the center, two to the sides. Above the one in the center there is one, and below the two, extreme left and right are two more. That's all six boxes, okay? So if you put a horizontal line down the middle, off the top of the center one, you put one, and below the other two you put vertically, and that's all six boxes creating a upside Down y. Of sorts.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah, that's very strange shape.

Jack: Okay, the last thing we find out about this.

Cristina: What? That is weird. And it's related to the Golem or. No, no one knows.

Jack: No one knows.

Cristina: Why? Why? Have your suspicions?

Jack: Not a clue. I tried to find anything about that.

Cristina: That's the end of that story.

Jack: Nah. The notes of the thieves that were tracking their steps in order to calculate how to rob these guys were found at the graveyard. But the thieves weren't. There's no information.

Cristina: No one tried to find those boxes.

Jack: It looks like they tried, but couldn't find the boxes. Because again, the thieves didn't write down where they don't want anybody to find that they wanted to be the ones. But the thieves themselves can't be found.

Cristina: So he disappeared.

Jack: Yeah, thieves essentially disappeared.

Cristina: Whoa. So they murdered the Golem? Maybe. Question mark. Not murdered. Well, I don't know. It's a thing.

Jack: Well, the Golem is disabled, as far as we know.

Cristina: Yeah, they cut it up in pieces, put it in a box.

Jack: How would they fit it in these small boxes? The golem was 15 to 20ft. They're gonna fit it in six square foot boxes.

Cristina: I don't know. What are these boxes? What could they possibly have put in those boxes?

Jack: I have no idea. It's unclear whether they put anything in the boxes. They showed up with the boxes and then left with the boxes.

Cristina: Mm. But you said the Golem isn't there anymore.

Jack: The Golem has never been seen after it went into the attic for the last time.

Cristina: Okay, so it might still be there.

Jack: They went up there and there was nothing up there during the renovation.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Which was roughly 200 years later.

Cristina: Yes. So they were there before the renovations.

Jack: Almost 300 years. Who was there?

Cristina: The six.

Jack: Yes. When the. When the building was closed off for the renovation. Before the renovation began. But the property was already closed up. They showed up. They stayed there for.

Cristina: Maybe it's not. Not the golem parts, but maybe they did break apart the Golem. Like they hid pieces of it in that place, Never actually removing the Golem from there. But hiding the Golem?

Jack: Well, no. The renovation would have found it.

Cristina: Because you can't. Yeah, that's weird. Because it can't be in those boxes. No, but that makes the most obvious or makes sense. It would be. But those boxes are too small.

Jack: Well, I'll give you the conclusion as to what I believe. Not conclusion, but my theory. Because we gotta use what we know. If they went up there and they removed the blanket from the Golem. Then the golem can move again.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: The golem doesn't have a master anymore. That guy's been dead for how long? Not serving anybody. So the golem could have just phased out where it's going.

Cristina: Oh yeah. So they just maybe just helped it.

Jack: Maybe help to get out.

Cristina: Get out? Yeah. That's interesting. That's even better.

Jack: What important follow up detail. I believe the three people that showed up. The number three very important. Might have been the Magi.

Cristina: Of course. That's what I was thinking. But I don't get the boxes even if that's true.

Jack: The boxes either.

Cristina: The boxes don't make sense. But I feel like what if they did destroy the golem and it's made out of mud? So like maybe it could fit in those boxes. I don't know.

Jack: It's 15ft of mud.

Cristina: But maybe murdering it trunk it or something. Or maybe the time trunk it. Maybe it wasn't the same size. If it was there for super long.

Jack: Why would they need any of that?

Cristina: Why would they need what?

Jack: Like how. How would this play out? This doesn't make any sense. That's hard speculation without anything to back it up.

Cristina: It's weird that they bury these boxes.

Jack: It is. It totally is. That's very strange. But it's most definitely not the golem in the boxes. That couldn't be the case. How? It doesn't make sense. It makes more sense that they went up there, did some kind of a deal or something. Use some maybe that contained their technology. Whatever technology they used to stop the again. They could control magic. Yeah, they can create magic dampening fields. Maybe the boxes contained whatever they had to stop the golem from leaving. Giving it only the option to phase out. Or yeah. Maybe it just phase out with the body and all. And then wherever it went to the other side, whatever spell or whatever, collapse it so that the body breaks down and it can't come back. Or something. Or something. Theories. But shrinking it into six tiny square foot boxes?

Cristina: No. Like it shrunk over time though.

Jack: Why would that make sense?

Cristina: Because it's made out of mud?

Jack: No, it would just dry out. It would be a giant stone sculpture at this point.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's clay as well.

Cristina: It's clay.

Jack: It's mud.

Cristina: And clay that's not going to make it shrink for a very long time. Like how long was it up there?

Jack: Why would it shrink at all? I don't understand what you. What you think mud is.

Cristina: It's magical mud though. It's not normal mud.

Jack: It's normal mud when it's not alive. It should just be a hard sculpture.

Cristina: The boxes, though.

Jack: The boxes are weird. I know. They are confusing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But we know that they don't literally use magic. They use technology.

Cristina: It's hard to look past those boxes. Especially that they buried it in such a weird way too.

Jack: They did. That was very strange. The whole boxes part is such a freaky mess. I don't understand why this is huge mystery. And then the only people who saw it happen vanished, Disappear.

Cristina: Like, come on. That's very strange.

Jack: What if we assume the maji are being watched for their own safety, then that means the thieves that were plotting on the maji were being watched.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, and then there's just. Okay, let's just get rid of them.

Cristina: Yes. But they kept the records there. Like they could have got rid of them and the work that they were.

Jack: You're right. Or maybe they weren't aware of the records.

Cristina: Why bury the boxes like that? Like they just buried them three by three and it was like, whatever. That's normal. Who cares? But the way they buried it also is just really weird.

Jack: It was almost in the shape of a golem.

Cristina: That's really weird.

Jack: Yeah. It's like the body, the head and the torso, the arms and the legs. Yeah, it's weird.

Cristina: It's very weird. Not telling me. That thing maybe shrink through time and then they just.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense. The shrinking part that doesn't check out.

Cristina: You don't know how.

Jack: My bet is that there is technology in the boxes and they, in those three days created some sort of a field. I do believe that might be the case. This is just thinking of how the sea people work on average. And the maji, being sea people, they go out of their way. They perform this thing to prevent it from leaving. We know it because it's on Mount Athos. They prevent magic. And this is a magical creature?

Cristina: Yeah. Do we have any more stories about not golems, but mud creatures?

Jack: No.

Cristina: No. Because maybe they helped. Maybe they made him smaller before disappearing. Like maybe it is full of parts of the golem, but the golem now looks more human.

Jack: Why and how?

Cristina: I don't know. Shrinking technology is not shrinking, but like, it's a sculpture. They just like rip some parts of it to make it look more normal. So you can just live a normal life when it feels like.

Jack: I understand what you're saying.

Cristina: So piece is still gonna phase here? It's every once in a while.

Jack: Well, not unless they're stopping that from.

Cristina: Making kids or that. Yeah.

Jack: So your idea would be that they created a smaller sculpture that they could fit into the boxes using the already parts of the golem, moved the creature into this smaller sculpture and then dismantled it and put it in the boxes. So we have a 15 foot golem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We then take pieces off while it's disabled. It still has the blanket or whatever. We take out the parts and make a smaller sculpture. Then somehow they move the. The shadow realm creature from inside the golem, Inside the big version of the golem. Into. It's already trapped.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So just move it somehow, using technology or something. They move it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: From one to the other. Now it's in the smaller version. Then they dismantle the smaller version, put it in these boxes, presumably using the same incantation that the blanket has.

Cristina: Probably.

Jack: Or the blanket is inside those boxes too. So you move the creature, you chop the blanket up, wrap each individual part, put each part into each box, wrapped inside of the blanket.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that each part is completely immobile. The boxes are closed. You go to the middle of nowhere, you bury it in this graveyard. And now you have a golem in the graveyard.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know. It's all weird. I don't know. It's very weird. So weird. Just the way they bury those boxes.

Jack: Yes. Everything else, as crazy as it is, checks out 100%. With everything else we know. Everything else works. The magic, the blood, the ichor, how they used adrenochrome, the fact that they took children, the Greek and the Egyptians being involved. Everything checks out 100%. The bread, all of it. All of it. All of it. Even, weirdly enough, us seeing the first bringing of something from the shadow realm, whatever, checks out with what we're learning little by little.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yes. A hundred percent. And then we get to these boxes and I don't f****** know.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It just spins out of f****** control.

Cristina: Yeah, Yeah.

Jack: I have no idea.

Cristina: And that's the only story? Just some thieves.

Jack: That's the only mention of this.

Cristina: Okay. Just some thieves disappears after that.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: And so do they. The golem is gone. Keep in mind there have been other golem, but this is the only golem. This is the reason. This is the first golem and the most important golem is because this is the golem with sentience.

Cristina: So the. Wait, what?

Jack: The other golems were essentially machines of some sort. They weren't creatures from the shadow realm, presumably. They were something else.

Cristina: Do you know how they made this one different?

Jack: I Don't know. I don't know. This rabbi was a g. This rabbi did something weird. The steps for all the other golems.

Cristina: Are the same with this one.

Jack: But this one had sentience.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: This golem took direct direction. It was made with direction from the voice of God. The other golems aren't. So they were cheap imitations.

Cristina: Yes. So that might be something to do with that. Okay. What?

Jack: The ritual was performed, but the voice of God had something specific it wanted to come through. And the stage was set for that to happen. And it worked. None of the other golems are of significance. None of the other. The other golems fall apart over time. They just wither away. The other golems don't have the ability to bring things from the shadow realm. They're just golems. They're what we know of golems.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're just golems. This golem, on the other hand, something unique had.

Cristina: It was alive and it could live forever and it could go back and forth. It had everything.

Jack: It had everything. It was something unique.

Cristina: Jesus. It's Jesus, but not.

Jack: It's Jesus. The golem.

Cristina: The golem.

Jack: It was called Joseph.

Cristina: Joseph.

Jack: Which is actually, weirdly enough, the Jewish translation of Jesus. Although we know Jesus real name was Emmanuel. But Joseph. And there's probably something happening there in which Jesus is being called Jesus when we know his name is Emmanuel and the Jewish word for Jesus is Joseph. And this golem was called Joseph.

Cristina: They're somehow based. One is based on the other.

Jack: Joseph is based on Jesus.

Cristina: Yes. He came after. Yes. Okay.

Jack: Long after. 1500 years later.

Cristina: Forgot. He's in the 1500s. So weird.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: What? And have golems been seen in any stories recently, though?

Jack: There are stories of golems everywhere, but all the golems seem to. Although the process is more or less the same, to making them. They're just golems. Golems are just golems.

Cristina: Yeah. Nothing like.

Jack: Nothing like Joseph.

Cristina: The closest thing to Jesus.

Jack: Whoa. Made by the Jews in the 1500s. They had 1500 years to consider what Jesus was and make their own version of it.

Cristina: Well, they weren't doing that. The God. Whatever.

Jack: Yes, yes, exactly. Which we stopped coming in contact with following the birth of Jesus.

Cristina: I thought Jesus was in relation with him, but I guess not.

Jack: No, that's. With who? With the.

Cristina: This evil God probably is. Why would he try to base something off of Jesus, though?

Jack: Maybe Jesus was along for the ride on this one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What has Jesus been doing for the last 1500 years?

Cristina: I have no idea.

Jack: And let's think about this real quick. Yes, Jesus is born, Mount Kaf disappears, and Jehovah of Dark vanishes all in one. That seems like it's all connected.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, it checks out 100%.

Cristina: Yes. So, okay, Jesus is working with this guy and making another version of him. Jesus 2.0.

Jack: Or trying to figure out how to just bring things from the Shadow Realm over. Jesus can come over.

Cristina: Why do they want to have more come over? Like, what benefit do they get from it?

Jack: Well, they already try to set up a bunch of ways to come over. Tragedies and s***. To get people from this side who take adrenochrome and hear these things to commit tragedies. Intentionally create mass blood loss and horror. Absolutely.

Cristina: Because they enjoy feeding off of it.

Jack: Well, they need it to come through. The blood doesn't make them come through. The fear does. The fear mongering is the media. The fear mongering is these crazy stories and scary. Everything is scary. Oh, the coronavirus, also scary. Threats of war, also scary. Nothing ever happens. But the fear is what's necessary to bring these creatures over.

Cristina: But these creatures are. They're in love with our blood. Like where we get addicted to adrenochrome. They get addicted to our blood.

Jack: Those creatures don't give a s*** about our blood. Only things on this side care about our blood.

Cristina: Oh, okay. We don't have stories about creatures who are just murder for blood. That's not a thing.

Jack: Creatures trying to go to the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It's just things trying to go to the Shadow Realm. Fear brings creatures from the Shadow Realm over.

Cristina: And you don't think they're here drinking blood.

Jack: I mean, it's not giving them a benefit, I suppose. Yes, there's like, for example, Wechuj or a Wendingo is what you're thinking about. That they'll, like, come and ravage somebody. But there's just. It's not even about the blood. They're just killing s***.

Cristina: Yeah, but then what's the point of them coming from there to here if it's not for something?

Jack: I mean, they're probably after the blood, but for no reason. A wechojino and dingo are just creatures addicted to the blood. That's all it is. And they die and cross over, and then they want to get back desperately. Because blood doesn't exist in the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: But why would Jesus want other things to come here?

Jack: Because the Djinn are sentient, thinking, clear minded, Creatures. And just like the Jinn, Jehovah of Dark is a thinking, sentient creature. There are things that think that want to come through that never existed on this side first. They're not after the blood.

Cristina: They just want to be over here.

Jack: There's something over here that they want. But again, we have no way of telling what that is. How would we?

Cristina: Yeah. Unless it has something to do with the other realm that we don't really know anything about.

Jack: Which could all come down to the sea people have something closer than everybody else does. And apparently maybe the Jews do too. That might allow. I still think the sea people might be miles ahead of the Jews. Yeah, which might. Again, I think the goal is ultimately getting into Elfame.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes, by any means that makes sense. And if that means crossover and steal the tech from people who are figuring it out, then so be it. Which then might be the original conflict between Jehovah of Light and Jehovah of Dark and all the other gods that do not like Jehovah of Light.

Cristina: It's about stealing that technology.

Jack: Yes. And moving from the palace of Alcaraz in the Persian Gulf oasis to Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean is entirely about avoiding the elves and the gods of this realm and the gods of that realm. It's just. You're not getting to our s***. Our s*** is our s***.

Cristina: This is. Man, I don't know if we're closer to something or not. If we're closer, are we closer? Did we figure it out yet?

Jack: We got more info?

Cristina: Yeah, more info for sure.

Jack: The boxes are confusing. Like, everything checks out. The boxes are weird.

Cristina: The boxes are weird.

Jack: Everything else makes perfect sense. But the boxes are very strange. I don't know what that's about. There's something. There has to be a way to figure out what's up with these boxes. Now I gotta go all the way back and see what history exists between the Egyptians, what they have to say about these boxes, what the Mayans have to say about these boxes, what the Jews have to say about these boxes. They're the only people who know anything about the sea people and the magi or sea people.

Cristina: I want to know what the Jews thought. What was the evil technology? What were they calling evil technology?

Jack: Just referencing the technology of the sea people.

Cristina: But, like, they don't have any examples of that. Anyway.

Jack: I didn't find anything, but I can look harder, try to see if there's some mention of specifically what they're talking about. But I think it was a general statement as to the sea people defy God's way by following the path of technology, essentially.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I think that's the general idea. I don't think there's more depth to it. I think it's like the usual argument of technology versus nature. I'm God, I am nature. And technology violates the usual. Science is evil because God is better. I think that's the argument. I don't think it's like that specific technology. I think it's just f*** technology because God said so.

Cristina: Well, what are these golem things? They're not technology.

Jack: It's magic. It's magic or it's not even magic. What's stopping it is magic. Then again, what's containing it? I don't understand. I don't. I don't. I don't understand. It's really complicated. The argument would be, yes, it's technology. It's technology using a combination of magic and power and science, which is all three realms which I feel like Earth realm of science. Elfame, the fairy realm of magic, the shadow realm of power. It's using of all three.

Cristina: Somehow the Egyptians had to have been doing something similar. No way. There has been.

Jack: It wouldn't make sense that the Egyptians are doing something and then the Jews are like, nah, that's horrible. Let's do it ourselves. That doesn't make any sense. For that, they should have just infiltrated the existing system and stolen that. Okay, but they leave and come up with a different way.

Cristina: Yeah, but if there is any stories, you should still check to see if there's.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, I'll look into it and.

Cristina: See if I can find anything, because maybe there's not. But it'd be very interesting if there's at least.

Jack: Yeah, I gotta look through all of these things just to answer any questions we haven't been able to answer. So it is what it is. If it's there, I'll stumble upon it. Yes, but that's what we got.

Cristina: That is so disturbing.

Jack: Golems.

Cristina: Golems from a statue in Switzerland?

Jack: Yep. Well, presumably that statue itself is a golem.

Cristina: Golem dressed up as Santa.

Jack: Jewish golem eating children.

Cristina: So horrible. Why. Why did someone want to share this story?

Jack: And it's unknown who funded this either. This is just put in plain sight. Nobody knows who paid for this.

Cristina: I mean, it's nowhere near this church or anything. Right. That'd be crazy. Yeah, that's true. Is there anything near the statue that.

Jack: Nope, I looked.

Cristina: Any churches?

Jack: No, no, nothing important. Nothing relative.

Cristina: Okay. It's just so random too.

Jack: The location, I think that was intentional. I think it's about putting it somewhere that it's hard to connect to the bigger picture so that it stands the test of time.

Cristina: Okay. Whoa.

Jack: Anyways, that's what we got disturbing. So if you guys want to hear about all other things relative to this crazy a** story that keeps unfolding for all of anything, you guys can message us about it. Anything you find when you do that, hit us up on our socials. Twitter now x Facebook, Instagram, tick tock@justconvopod.

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Jack: Show and word of mouth is important. Tell people that we are uncovering truth. The dark truths of everything that Jewish people have sacrificial things to make matzos and then eat that and then pour their blood over clay statues to then make golems.

Cristina: Whoa. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing further though. Thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: S.A. good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Colazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Dots info, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 202: More Animal Stuff

Following last week’s discussion about animals and the results Google coughed up the duo dive deeper and get even more random stats to compare different animals from all walks of life. From the fastest to the largest, all the data is present.

Rambling 202: More Animal Stuff

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Topics Discussed:

  • Largest Animals
  • Fastest Animals
  • Smallest Animals
  • Smartest Animals
  • Deadliest Animals

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm Christina.

Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. Today, we have some particularly baffling ideas.

Cristina: What are they?

Jack: They're too baffling.

Cristina: The two. Baffling.

Jack: They're too baffling. So I decided to make a huge list of ideas that are too baffling to comprehend. But in making them, I was baffled through the writing process, and I don't know what I wrote.

Cristina: It was that baffling?

Jack: It was too baffling.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So I have a list. It's just too baffling to comprehend or read.

Cristina: But you could read it.

Jack: No, it's too baffling.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Well, you have to try to read it.

Jack: I tried. It's just too baffling.

Cristina: We can try right now.

Jack: No, we can't.

Cristina: Why?

Jack: It's too baffling. It's so baffling. Its location baffles me.

Cristina: It's location. How's that possible?

Jack: All of it is too baffling. But listen to me. Last week on Dragon Ball Z, we were talking about Google and its animals.

Cristina: Google.

Jack: We were talking to Google. Talking to Google about its animals. Yeah. About sizes, and it was about sizes. We were talking to it about the largest animals, and we were talking to it about.

Cristina: If this was Dragon Ball Z, the largest animal is that dinosaur.

Jack: Which one? The one that Goku hunted as a child.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, the T. Rex.

Jack: No, I was. Was cell bigger when he became that giant ball to blow up.

Cristina: Also, what about the dragon that makes wishes?

Jack: Oh, that's way bigger.

Cristina: We already figured out the biggest thing. Yeah, with the dragon.

Jack: Yeah, it's like Nitro Shenron or whatever the h*** his name is. He's the largest thing because he's wrapping around entire, like, universes.

Cristina: Yeah. That's pretty crazy.

Jack: How do you see that? Okay. We can't comprehend God, assuming he's trapped within our own reality.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We're gonna be like. Yeah. We're gonna see the dragon wrapping around, like, 12 different realities simultaneously. And he's coiled up from how long he is.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: How can a being look at that and see anything?

Cristina: They can't.

Jack: They can't. Right beyond a certain point.

Cristina: Maybe their. Their God has the ability to see it.

Jack: Does it? It's. I don't know. It's crazy.

Cristina: We don't know His Abilities, though.

Jack: Zeno.

Cristina: Zeno. Yeah. Like maybe he has the ability to see it. He has the ability to make it and destroy it. Like everything.

Jack: Yeah, he does. He blinked the universe out of existence just because. Haha.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, I mean, would God give a crap? He wouldn't, like, whatever, make another one.

Cristina: Yeah, he makes sense.

Jack: Yeah, it makes sense, right? That's a. That's a logical God. I dismiss the notion of a God that gives a crap. It wouldn't make sense. That's a demigod. You like kind of God, but you still got emotions. You're definitely kind of human.

Cristina: Mm. You're way more alien than anything.

Jack: Yeah, you're just a weird. Yeah. You're probably just an alien. To be real.

Cristina: Yes. So what God got would more be more like. What's his name?

Jack: Zeno.

Cristina: Zeno.

Jack: Like ultra mega, top of the line. I'm the omniscient. All knowing, all seeing. Like that God doesn't care.

Cristina: He couldn't.

Jack: That doesn't make any sense.

Cristina: But he cares about something.

Jack: No, he couldn't. He couldn't. If he made everything, everything is equal.

Cristina: Yeah, it does seem like that for him, doesn't it?

Jack: I guess that would make sense. Or maybe he has favorite favorites. Like humans could be his favorite thing. Like everybody has a favorite thing they made and the thing they hate the most. That they made.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: Right. We could just be the favorite. That's fine.

Cristina: Mm. I don't know if we are, but, well, regardless.

Jack: We're definitely part of the. The food chain.

Cristina: Yes. Are we the biggest thing? The biggest, smartest thing? Are we the smartest big thing? We make sense.

Jack: We're pretty smart and we're pretty big, but we're not the smartest biggest thing. But we're also nowhere near the smallest thing.

Cristina: Of course we're not the smallest thing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're not the smartest biggest thing, but we're definitely not the smallest thing.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's abusively tiny things.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Like what?

Jack: Look at that photo.

Cristina: Is that a werewolf?

Jack: It's a marmoset. It's a pygmy marmoset. Things called pygmies are really tiny things.

Cristina: But what's a marmoset?

Jack: I have no idea. What a marmoset.

Cristina: Is that a werewolf?

Jack: It's some sort of creature. Maybe a monkey.

Cristina: Could be a monkey. It looks so weird.

Jack: What is a marmoset? So.

Cristina: So marmosets are weird? Not just the little ones. They're all weird. It's a small Squirrel like monkey. It has many features that are unusual among primates. They don't say what, but they look strange. Like just the regular marmosets. Not even just that tiny werewolf that you're showing us. Look at this dude. He looks like a bird or something. Like, like just standing from a tree covered in like. You would think that was an owl or something. I don't know. It's very strange. It's a cat like owl, monkey. Look at this, look at this one. Oh, no, that's the pygmy one. Oh, that's a pygmy one. But it looks like a cat. Owl.

Jack: Yes, it does.

Cristina: But just look at the common one. This is the common one down here. See, look, White face, weird ears. Like, what? What's going on? What's going on? Very strange.

Jack: It's a monkey.

Cristina: So it's like the world's smallest monkey, I'm guessing.

Jack: Yeah, I suppose. Maroset is the world's smallest monkey.

Cristina: How small does it get?

Jack: How small does this monkey get? 4 inches.

Cristina: 4 inches. Oh, my gosh. That is so tiny.

Jack: That's a tiny, tiny monkey.

Cristina: That is a tiny monkey. That's like an adult is a four inch.

Jack: Yeah, it's a monkey that's smaller than a dollar.

Cristina: Wow. That is too cute. Even though it looks crazy.

Jack: Here's a lemur mouse.

Cristina: Is it a mouse though?

Jack: Or is it a lemur?

Cristina: No. Is a lemur a type of mouse?

Jack: I guess.

Cristina: Not a mouse. I wrote it. No, lemurs are monkeys.

Jack: Lemurs are monkeys.

Cristina: I don't know. Lemurs are primates.

Jack: They're what? They are monkeys. They're not monkeys, but, you know, primates.

Cristina: Close enough. But then what is that that we're looking at? Is that a monkey or is that a rat?

Jack: So what is. I mean, we know what a mouse.

Cristina: Is, but is it calling it like a mouse sized lemur or a lemur sized mouse? Like, what's going on?

Jack: It looks. It looks like a rodent does.

Cristina: Yeah. They come from the same place. Madagascar.

Jack: Fascinating.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So this is another primate like the marmoset. Whoa. Whoa.

Cristina: They're so strange. They're so tiny. There's something about being so tiny that they don't look like what they're supposed to be.

Jack: Yes. They become some whole other thing.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: This here is a bee. Hummingbird.

Cristina: Bee hummingbird. Oh my gosh.

Jack: It could be 2 inches tall.

Cristina: What? But hummingbirds are tiny birds, right? Or they're big hummingbirds.

Jack: Like they're already. Yeah, they're already Pretty small.

Cristina: Yeah. And these are just the smallest of the small?

Jack: Yeah, they're the tiniest of the tiny.

Cristina: Aw, they're so cute and colorful.

Jack: Oh yeah. I guess most birds have that ability. Isn't that interesting? Now here's something fascinating. The marmoset, the pygmy marmoset can live up to 12 years. You know primates, nice long lives. I guess that's not really long compared to like a dog or something. And then the mouse lemur does six to eight years. You know, it's tiny, it's a little short, it died quick. But then this, the bee, hummingbird, it does seven to 10 years.

Cristina: Seven to 10 years.

Jack: So this bird lives about as long as that rat, Monkey, what? Actually maybe a little longer. On the flip side, so does. What is it called? Parrots. Parrots have absurdly long lives. Parrots have really, really, really, really long lives.

Cristina: How long?

Jack: Like 30 years maybe.

Cristina: They're big.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay, but how long was this one? Two years. Ten years.

Jack: Seven to ten.

Cristina: Seven to ten. Oh.

Jack: Now here is a hognose bat.

Cristina: Oh my gosh, I can't see its nose. Hog nose bat.

Jack: Yes. And it is about an inch.

Cristina: What is that the smallest animal?

Jack: No, but it's a pretty small one.

Cristina: Does that also live a very short life?

Jack: Five to 10 years.

Cristina: Five to 10.

Jack: Five to 10 years. But that's not the smallest. We enter something much smaller, the tardigrade.

Cristina: But is that an animal?

Jack: Yes, it's counted as one of the smallest animals.

Cristina: But what is it counted as exactly?

Jack: Yeah, it's an animal. Like what, what do you mean like.

Cristina: What kind of animal?

Jack: I forget the name of that. There's. It's something.

Cristina: An insect?

Jack: No, no, it's an animal. It's a type of animal. A phylum. I'm assuming that says phylum.

Cristina: What is a film.

Jack: That'S hard to grade is a phylum, phelim of 8.

Cristina: Legged segmented micro animals. What does that even mean? What does that even mean?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: What are micro animals? So this isn't the only micro animal?

Jack: No, there's this thing right here.

Cristina: Oh my gosh, that's horrifying.

Jack: This one's microscopic.

Cristina: Okay, so it's. But the, the, what was the last one?

Jack: The tardigrade.

Cristina: Tardigrade is also microscopic.

Jack: It's so small it's hard to see.

Cristina: But it's not microscopic.

Jack: You can. It's like on the edge. It's as close as small as you can get before you're microscopic.

Cristina: Okay. Everything microscopic is scary.

Jack: Oh, yeah. And everything macroscopic is too.

Cristina: Yeah, I know. Which is more horrifying? I don't know. These might.

Jack: And everything. Anything in any extreme is crazy. I think of really, really old, unevolved animals. Like when we're traveling the depths of the ocean to the crap that survives all the meteor nonsense that happened.

Cristina: Disturbing.

Jack: Yeah. It's like monsters down there. And it's because any extreme is too alien from the norm.

Cristina: What is that one called, though?

Jack: Loricifera.

Cristina: It's beautiful. It's scary, but beautiful.

Jack: Yeah. It's like an octopus flower thing.

Cristina: Yeah. It looks like a flower vase or something. Yeah.

Jack: It's not even an octopus. Like a squid. Like a squid vase, plant thing.

Cristina: Yeah, it's. It's so alien. It's hard to imagine that that's a living thing. That's an animal too.

Jack: That is an animal.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And it's in the same category as a tardigrade. They're in the same species to some degree. Not species, I guess. Yeah.

Cristina: Type of. Whatever they are or whatever people.

Jack: Genus. Genus. Not the best, but you get my point. Now you were asking about size. I jumped to small. Well, let me tell you what some of the smarter, bigger things are, okay. The African elephant is a freaking giant.

Cristina: Yes. Well, is it bigger than. How big is it from a regular elephant? Because those are big, aren't they?

Jack: Yeah, regular elephants are pretty big. Fair enough. I'm assuming this is a significant uptick. Look at that.

Cristina: Whoa. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. That's a person next to the elephant. Oh, my gosh. Powering him.

Jack: Yeah. And elephants are significantly intelligent. Like, they're pretty smart.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So elephant. African elephants on average can get up to 10ft tall. That's two humans standing on top. Two five foot individuals standing one on top of the other.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Counting from its shoulders. Not its head.

Cristina: His shoulders at its head.

Jack: Yes. From where its shoulders hit their peak as opposed to where its head does.

Cristina: Where do you think its head reaches?

Jack: With its head up, it has to be like 13ft.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: But 10ft is where it's at and it can be up to £13,000.

Cristina: How. How much does it have to eat to be like that?

Jack: Probably a lot.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Just crap ton of pounds all day eating, I guess, if they. If people give them. No, they have. I don't know, man. How did an elephant survive in. Oh, no. It eats fruits, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it eats plants.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Is it just really efficient at processing things very slowly and sucking out all the nutrients Maybe really developed internal system.

Cristina: Humongous.

Jack: Yeah, that's pretty much like the big intelligent one. But there's a bunch of really big animals and a bunch of really intelligent animals.

Cristina: Okay, let's go with the big ones.

Jack: Out of the big ones outside of the elephant, that's a huge, huge, huge, crazy thing. And the, if you remember from last week, the 13 foot freakin hippo.

Cristina: Long.

Jack: 13Ft long?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Something that's just tall in general. Is the, the ostrich the biggest bird?

Cristina: I think.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: I think it also has the biggest eyes a bird can have like a ratio, right?

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Eyes to body ratio. They're huge freaking eyes. But despite its crazy height, it's still like incredibly light.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: It's still a bird?

Cristina: Yeah. It's so fragile looking with its legs. Like how is that leg carrying? I mean feathers don't weigh much.

Jack: Yeah, there's no weight. It's carrying no weight.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: But this allows it to be crazy fast.

Cristina: How fast? Like cheetah fast? No, they can run up to 30, 30 to 37 miles per hour and sprint up to 43 miles per hour.

Jack: It's like in a straight shot, 43 miles per hour.

Cristina: Can you outrun it?

Jack: No. I think the fastest human speed ever recorded could not compete with that. Yeah, I'm like super sure the fastest human goes max way too low. I'll give it. I don't even know what would be average. Like 13 miles per hour. So what does it say? The average is 8 miles per hour.

Cristina: Men 8 hour, 8 miles per hour, females 6.5 miles per hour.

Jack: But the fastest human ever, some dude called Bolt. And he hit 27 miles per hour.

Cristina: 27 miles per hour.

Jack: That's a colossal difference between the average and this guy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that being said, he will still get cracked on by that.

Cristina: The ostrich.

Jack: By the ostrich.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: This is way faster than I thought it was. And still the ostrich is winning. Yeah, by like quite a bit. The ostrich will get some car lengths on this person. I'm the fastest human ever. But that ain't crap because like there's a bunch of crazy fast animals like a gazelle. A Gazelle could hit 60 miles per hour.

Cristina: 60 miles per hour just running.

Jack: Sprint into 60 miles per hour.

Cristina: How much would that hurt if that ran into you?

Jack: Probably a lot. Like, I'm sure these things have totaled cars in the past.

Cristina: Whoa. That's crazy. That's pretty fast.

Jack: Also, gazelles are the most elegant of the deer, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They Look. Beautiful. They're like the cat of the deer.

Cristina: Yes, I think so. They're not the biggest or smallest deer, are they?

Jack: No, they're like somewhere in the middle. They're the most deer sized of the deer.

Cristina: I bet if we find the smallest deer, it'd be the cutest deer.

Jack: It microdeers.

Cristina: A micro deer. What if there is a micro deer?

Jack: There's probably such a thing as a micro deer. This is micro everything at this point.

Cristina: Ah, so cute. It's so ridiculously dumb looking.

Jack: Yeah, it looks like kind of like a. It's the pug of the deer.

Cristina: It is so cute. It is too cute. I don't even know how you say its name. Pudu.

Jack: It looks so innocent.

Cristina: It looks so innocent. Oh my gosh. Look at this one with his tongue sticking out. Look at this one. That looks so crazy. That does not look real. What? What?

Jack: Weird. Weird.

Cristina: They have horns. Look at those horns. It doesn't look real.

Jack: Tiny little horns.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's just a micro deer.

Cristina: Yeah, but not as elegant as. What was the deer that we were talking about?

Jack: The gazelle.

Cristina: The gazelle? No, the gazelle.

Jack: Yeah. Well, the gazelle is incredibly fast. But the gazelle is not the fastest animal yet. That would be the cheetah. Actually. That's wrong. But that's. We're talking land animals.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Because the cheetah could hit like 70 miles per hour.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Think about how much faster than the gazelle that is. That's a whole 10 miles per hour on it.

Cristina: That is ridiculous.

Jack: That's like a. That's a nice close race basically.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: Like the gazelle's getting away, but slowly the cheetahs catching them.

Cristina: And it does.

Jack: It does.

Cristina: Okay, better. But what's the fastest animal?

Jack: Well, faster than the cheetah is.

Cristina: Is there a bird?

Jack: The golden eagle.

Cristina: Oh my gosh. I was gonna say.

Jack: Yeah. The golden Eagle does about 200 miles per hour.

Cristina: How?

Jack: Flight, man.

Cristina: What was it?

Jack: The advantages of gravity?

Cristina: The golden eagle, 200 miles per hour. Whoa. It makes sense that a bird would be very fast. Like.

Jack: Yeah, right. Because you're in the sky, you have way less resistance in water or the treacherous energy cost of like propelling yourself forward on ground.

Cristina: That is so ridiculous. What? Is there something faster?

Jack: There is a bird that's faster than that bird yet.

Cristina: Faster by much?

Jack: No, by a significant amount.

Cristina: Really? Yeah.

Jack: So the peregrine falcon does 240 mph. That eagle couldn't pretend it could catch this bird.

Cristina: Well, do you know the size comparison to these birds?

Jack: No, I do not.

Cristina: But the golden eagle is bigger. It's 2 to 7 to 33 inches, while the falcon is 14 to 19 inches. And that falcon is one of the largest falcons in North America. Well, I guess in North America. That doesn't help. That doesn't help.

Jack: North America is huge, though.

Cristina: So I'm gonna say the golden eagle wins.

Jack: What? In size? Yeah, yeah, it's like. What is it, two? The falcon is two thirds the size of the eagle.

Cristina: Okay, but. And the eagle is faster, right?

Jack: No, no, the falcon is faster than the eagle. Yeah, the falcon has 40 miles per hour on the eagle.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: So that size is, like, beneficial. Now, do you know what the smartest animals are?

Cristina: Human. Human. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, we have to be. Right. Like, that's default. Humans are the. As far as we know, until we can bridge communication with dolphins, we'll never know.

Cristina: Dolphins have to be up there.

Jack: I'm pretty sure they're second place. I'm convinced. You think jellyfish are like gods?

Cristina: There's nothing going on in a jellyfish.

Jack: The. The ocean spirit.

Cristina: The ocean spirit. Oh, it does have that view.

Jack: I guess the glowing ones do.

Cristina: Yeah, that's pretty cool. But the smartest.

Jack: Yeah, I mean, there's some obvious winners.

Cristina: Like what?

Jack: Like an elephant?

Cristina: Like an elephant. Yes, for sure. And I guess a hippo. Are they or are they just vicious?

Jack: Well, they categorize under pigs, and pigs are highly intelligent.

Cristina: Oh. Spiders seem pretty smart.

Jack: Spiders. intellect is hard to judge in a spider.

Jack: Definitely nothing notable.

Cristina: Nothing notable.

Jack: Nothing notable.

Cristina: Are other monkeys as smart as this?

Jack: Yes. Chimpanzees. I mean, not as smart as smart. Chimpanzees are pretty smart. They're up there.

Cristina: They're up there.

Jack: Yeah. They're some of the smartest animals. If not the smartest animals, there's an.

Cristina: Animal that can fight a snake. I feel like they might be really smart. I don't know.

Jack: An animal that could fight a snake.

Cristina: Yeah, like a poisonous snake. Like it's become immune to the poison.

Jack: The mongoose.

Cristina: Is it a mongoose? Maybe it's not. Maybe it's just vicious. Vicious and smart are not the same, are they?

Jack: Yeah, no, it fights them because it's immune to the snake's venom or something.

Cristina: Yeah, but how did it become immune? It's gotta have lost a long time.

Jack: There was a crazy war with an absurd body count.

Cristina: Yeah, but does that make it smart?

Jack: No, it makes sense.

Cristina: Because it adapted.

Jack: No, that's just natural. Selection.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: If the snakes were gonna be a problem, only the ones who wouldn't have a problem with the snake would survive.

Cristina: You think snakes are smart?

Jack: Depends on the snake. And also reptiles seem to have a lack of reasoning. There's no like puzzles, like there's no amazing puzzle solving. Reptile. No, but there's something about a reptile that seems illogical, entirely instinctive. Thus cold hearted or cold blooded?

Cristina: Cold blooded. What do you mean illogical?

Jack: Yeah, they seem, they don't, there's, there's no gears turning, I guess, but I.

Cristina: Feel like they don't need gears turning because they've adapted it so well that like everything is easy for them. They figured out life, I suppose.

Jack: Well, not really. That's. They need to be around water because they, they're so primitive. Their body doesn't even regulate heat properly.

Cristina: Are alligators counted as that?

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Like, come on, they, they got an easy life. They look very happy. They don't look happy.

Jack: I don't think they could tell. Happiness.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's probably real basic functions going on, like pain, pleasure, hunger, just basic things.

Cristina: So that wouldn't be intelligent.

Jack: Yeah, I don't think it would fall under like intelligent bees. No. But parrots.

Cristina: Parrots. Okay.

Jack: And crows, like ravens.

Cristina: Of course. Ravens.

Jack: And yeah. Actually out of the birds, ravens are at the top.

Cristina: But they're not number one. Out of the birds there they are number one. Okay. Do you think ants are intelligent?

Jack: Yeah, I think ants are a complicated thing because they, they have a collective.

Cristina: Mind, so you can't really count that.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz not like one ant won't get anything accomplished. No, but government goes a long way and ants have government and they could.

Cristina: Like, they can make crazy decisions together and stuff.

Jack: Yeah, they're unity. Yeah, it's communism. Well, it's a dictatorship and it is communism. Actually, it's both. Yeah. Oh, wow, that's weird. Ants live in communist societies, as do bees.

Cristina: They're living the same lives pretty much.

Jack: Well, actually, I think in both those cases those are fascist societies in which a small percent get the majority of the goods and make all the decisions.

Cristina: Yes, one.

Jack: Yeah, those are, Are those fascists?

Cristina: Buffaloes are pretty smart.

Jack: Buffaloes, yeah.

Cristina: Do you know the African buffaloes can practice democracy? They practice voting. They vote on things, man.

Jack: Like what?

Cristina: like on where to go and stuff. Like the adult females get together and like, I guess there's physical cues. Like they might all like look at one way and the others look at that way and then, you know, like if there was two roads, they had to choose. They get together and, you know, all faced one way. Then everyone's like, okay, that's the winner.

Jack: Interesting, interesting. I wonder if everybody tried to vote at the same time. They wouldn't see anybody else's vote.

Cristina: Well, it's only the females voting, so the. The rest of the party. The older females. So the rest of the party would be watching to see who wins.

Jack: Oh, interesting.

Cristina: I'm guessing that's how it works.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Democracy at play.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Fantastic.

Cristina: That's pretty smart.

Jack: Yeah, it's clever. I've heard of that before. Humans can't even figure that out.

Cristina: No. So that's interesting. Although it's just one specifically, we couldn't do that because everyone has to vote. That's the only way.

Jack: Yeah, everybody has to vote. As opposed to just the educated ones. We all don't want to be the dumb ones. That's all it is. Interesting enough, dolphins have an IQ equal to humans.

Cristina: Equal?

Jack: Equal.

Cristina: Like average.

Jack: Yes. So the average IQ is about 100 for humans, and the average IQ for dolphin is about 100. All right, so their intellect is about the same. And this goes into considering the fact that we. Again, we can't figure out the language of these creatures, but we know that they have policing systems and they have debates and they have trolls and they have.

Cristina: They probably have a higher iq. It's impossible to tell.

Jack: I mean, they have the added advantage that they can convey literal imagery to one another, as seen. That's absurd. They could send a sound that's gonna replicate in the head of the other one, all the visuals.

Cristina: How do you beat that?

Jack: That's crazy. That's just an ability that, by default, must make their understanding of navigating through the world more refined than ours.

Cristina: Another thing that they have is almost equal. Not almost equal, but a pretty high EQ, which is emotional intelligence. We're at a 7.4. They're at a 5.3, which is way higher than other animals. I don't know what the list is like of every animal.

Jack: Yeah, but that wouldn't even matter anyways because all we need is, like, the ones up there. Unless there's an animal with more emotional intelligence than a dolphin. But I also don't see how that would be beneficial to survival. It feels like it's something that would get in the way long term.

Cristina: I don't know. I mean, it has to be high for. I'm guessing, animals that have communities. It would be high.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because you got to get along with other animals in that community.

Jack: Fair enough. But what if animals are just intellectually gonna follow a hierarchy that establishes itself based on like, power, for example, Then you don't need to care about emotions because there is stability here.

Cristina: That's probably ants and bees.

Jack: Fair enough. Fascism.

Cristina: So I don't know even like wolf packs. That's family. That's the parents leading the pack.

Jack: Interesting. Yes.

Cristina: And even lions, it's the strongest. But there's got to be some emotional bond there too.

Jack: Yeah. And it's still family.

Cristina: Still family, yeah.

Jack: Yeah. A lot of time. Creatures with like the powerful creatures are all very family creatures, so it's.

Cristina: It's gotta help out in some ways. So they're the smartest? Not the smartest. Well, the smartest in the water, definitely.

Jack: Who?

Cristina: Dolphins.

Jack: Dolphins smartest in the water for sure. And I think the smartest on in land has to be the chimpanzee.

Cristina: Besides us.

Jack: Besides us.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Other. Other creatures. Other than us. Where obviously our intelligence meter forces all other creatures. Us and dolphins, we just force everything down to the point that it seems uninterrupted. We question consciousness in these creatures from how below us the intellect level up.

Cristina: And the smartest bird is like nothing compared to the smartest mammal.

Jack: Oh, no, that's a. That's a crazy gap. Yes. The smartest bird. We would crap on the smartest bird.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The smartest bird is like a raven or something. And the IQ of a raven is still not like an absurdly high iq.

Cristina: We compare that to children or something.

Jack: Yeah. Do you know what the most dangerous animals are besides the hill?

Cristina: Is that a trick question? Human, probably.

Jack: Humans should definitely be up there.

Cristina: That's.

Jack: That's mainly about how many murders happen. Yeah, but it's crazy because, okay, we would calculate something dangerous based on how many times it kills a human. That's how we calculate danger. How much. Which is. I guess every animal thinks like that, right? Things are dangerous if they hurt my species.

Cristina: So if we do, we don't count just us. What about. There's that bug. It destroys everything in its sights. It's in the Bible.

Jack: Locust.

Cristina: Locust, yes. Come on. That's dangerous.

Jack: But I don't think it has direct body count. I think what it does affects people.

Cristina: Yes, but I'm not talking about what it does to people. It's destroys plants, those lives dead. Like it's destroying everything in its way. All the food. Yeah, in that area, yeah.

Jack: Interesting way to consider body count. Yeah, but what about things with blood count? Anything with blood is the only thing we can. Mosquitoes. H*** yes. For a fact, mosquitoes are number one. They're the kingpin of murder.

Cristina: Really? Yes. Because they carry mad diseases and then they're just spreading it while they're drinking from you. Is that what's happening?

Jack: Yeah, to some degree. Mosquitoes are by far. They're huge. They're up there with about a million deaths by mosquito per year.

Cristina: That makes sense. And it's all just from like something so simple, like you don't even see it coming.

Jack: Nope.

Cristina: You just feel it and it's not even painful. It's the least painful death.

Jack: I'm guessing a random little oh, wow, that was annoying.

Cristina: Or a little buzz and then you're.

Jack: Just dead before you know it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Million a year.

Cristina: A million. Do they kill animals too?

Jack: Yeah, probably. There's a bunch of different types of mosquitoes, I'm sure.

Cristina: So is that the deadliest creature alive or just one of the deadliest?

Jack: That's the deadliest. But there's a bunch of other options going on too. Snakes are pretty up there. They got about 100,000 deaths a year.

Cristina: Is it all types of snakes?

Jack: Yes, otherwise I would specify.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's just the general.

Cristina: Alright. Because they all kill in such different ways.

Jack: Yes. But if you're like the black mamba, the most dangerous thing, probably, you know, like three people a year or some crap.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know, you just generalize it. But like we would have very different numbers if we were just talking about mosquitoes as well and specify it on any type of mosquito. Because it'd be like, well, mosquitoes, they have this very specific kind of thing going on as opposed to the ones that are responsible for. But I guess a lot of mosquitoes aren't even responsible again, because it's. They affect people with how they do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This person has this thing, bit them, I took it to that person, gave it to them, that person dies. We're blame the mosquito. Those amount of deaths probably make up a lot of them.

Cristina: Yes, yes. That's a lot.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: But when it comes to snakes, it's a whole different thing going on.

Jack: Yeah, they're actively attacking and that's 100,000.

Cristina: 100,000. What was the mosquito again? Million.

Jack: A million.

Cristina: Whoa. What numbers.

Jack: Crazy leap, right? Mosquitoes take 10 times the lives that snakes do.

Cristina: Is there like the most dangerous sea animal?

Jack: The most dangerous sea animal. That's probably just a dolphin and you're.

Cristina: And okay, so the snake is the most dangerous. The second one is the snake. Right after you said that.

Jack: Twice.

Cristina: Oh, the mosquito. The mosquitoes are most dangerous. Then it's the snake.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Then what comes after that?

Jack: Dogs. What dogs have 30,000 kills?

Cristina: More than, like, wolves, dogs? Like pets?

Jack: No, all dogs. These are generalizations.

Cristina: Lame list. Okay.

Jack: If it was just wolves, it would be like five a year, I guess.

Cristina: But, like, what are they considering how they're being killed? Like, are these dogs with, like, the rabies kill?

Jack: No, I'm sure it's like a dog murdering a person.

Cristina: These are human deaths.

Jack: Yeah, Everything is calculated by how many humans they kill.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Oh, there's probably dogs killing their owners, though.

Jack: Yeah. There's so many dogs. There's billions of people. Definitely. But now, being dangerous and having a huge body count doesn't mean being the most dangerous, really. It just means things that could mess you up and don't are kind.

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: Some animals got quite like a body weight on the dangerous animals. So, yeah, something might have a crazy high body count, like a mosquito, but something really, really big could eat millions and trillions of mosquitoes all at the same time. You know, I guess, like, look at the size of this bear.

Cristina: That's a huge bear.

Jack: That's a grizzly bear.

Cristina: Grizzly bear. Probably not the killer like the mosquito. No, no, but it's huge.

Jack: It's ridiculous.

Cristina: I think polar bears are also really big bears.

Jack: Yeah. The small bears are the black bears.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: But this, this is huge. This is two humans. But it's still kind of nothing when you consider the size of the blue.

Cristina: Whale the largest animal.

Jack: The largest animal ever. I was looking at this and, like, I'm like, yeah, largest animal alive. And I look online to make sure and it's like, it's the largest animal to have ever been recorded in any period of time. There's no dinosaur that was larger. What little dinosaur, the largest creature ever recorded in all of time exists at this moment. And we're from. Well, to some degree familiar with it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: The giant creature that, like, only eats planktons or something.

Jack: Yep. The blue whale, the largest creature ever recorded.

Cristina: Why is it so large?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: How large is it?

Jack: Almost a hundred feet long.

Cristina: How. How many buses is that?

Jack: That's a really good question. Those are school buses. Okay. It looks like almost three school buses. No, it's two and a half. Right?

Cristina: Two and a half.

Jack: Yeah, it's two and a half school buses. Long.

Cristina: Well, the biggest they've ever recorded of the blue rare. Like, I'm guessing that's the Average.

Jack: Oh, yeah. So the average is about two school.

Cristina: Buses worth, but the biggest we've ever recorded.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: And like, this is the most massive animal because also weight. You get my point.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We also, like, counts in here because it's 400. It's over, actually. Over £400,000.

Cristina: Is there even any animal close to that weight?

Jack: No.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: I think the next heaviest thing is the elephant.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And the elephant just comes in at £13,000, next to £400,000.

Cristina: Wow. It's so long. It's so big. So it's a record breaking animal in many ways.

Jack: Yeah, in almost all the ways.

Cristina: Wow. It's so big. How is there more than one of those things in the ocean?

Jack: That's how big the ocean is. The ocean is so freaking huge, it's rare to see one.

Cristina: Well, is it really? That's crazy.

Jack: They're so huge and the ocean goes so deep and it's still incredibly shallow, next to, like, the depths of earth.

Cristina: But blue whales aren't hanging out down there, are they?

Jack: I wonder. I wonder how. I mean, blue whales are relatively safe creatures. There isn't anything. They have no predators.

Cristina: Are you sure?

Jack: You think they have. You think there's something out there killing blue whales?

Cristina: Dolphins, yeah.

Jack: My bed is dolphins.

Cristina: Wasn't it the orca or something?

Jack: They kill blue whales.

Cristina: Baby ones, probably.

Jack: That's fair. That sounds like the animal kingdom to me.

Cristina: All right, so it's a pack of orcas and they can only prey on the little ones.

Jack: So, like, an adult blue whale is good.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: And it's crazy because for a baby, it still takes a bunch of them.

Cristina: Yes. So these large pack of them.

Jack: Yeah. The killer whale. The orca is a dolphin.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That name is confusing, though, because it's not a whale.

Cristina: Is a dolphin just a whale?

Jack: No, no, a dolphin isn't a whale.

Cristina: A dolphin is a whale.

Jack: How is a dolphin a whale?

Cristina: They're part of the same family. I don't know how to pronounce it. Cetaceans.

Jack: Norwell, that's a. Yeah, but if they're both part of that family, then they're both cetaceans. Not both whales or dolphins. One is a whale and one is a dolphin. And all whales aren't dolphins. And all dolphins aren't whales. But they're all cetaceans.

Cristina: Are all. I mean, dolphins. Are you sure? Dolphins are not whales, but.

Jack: No, they're not in the same family.

Cristina: They're not?

Jack: No.

Cristina: So they're related.

Jack: Whales don't have teeth. Dolphins do. That's the difference.

Cristina: But the giant, the giant whale, the blue whale has teeth.

Jack: The blue whale doesn't have teeth.

Cristina: Yes, it does.

Jack: No, the blue whale doesn't have teeth.

Cristina: It doesn't?

Jack: No.

Cristina: I read that they have a bunch of teeth.

Jack: They have some equivalent, but they don't have teeth.

Cristina: Oh, I guess they don't have teeth.

Jack: No, they're not dolphins. Dolphins have teeth.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're both the same thing, except some are toothed whales and others are non toothed whales. And toothed whales are.

Cristina: Dolphins are monsters. Okay. While non toothed whales are gentle.

Jack: It's crazy that, man, there's something wrong with dolphins. It's crazy that these like the bigger dolphins are out here hunting whales to begin with. Although they would get bodied by the full sized whale.

Cristina: Definitely. That thing is huge. It could eat, like if it could eat, how many of them could it eat?

Jack: It could just eat its enemies in one shot.

Cristina: Oh, that's the biggest thing on earth. Well, living thing.

Jack: Yep. I mean, look at its size. That's a boat down there with people, with a bunch of people. And that whale is like three times the size of that boat.

Cristina: Yeah. That's amazing being next to that thing. What?

Jack: Yeah, it's crazy huge.

Cristina: Wow. Well, those are a bunch of animals next to it.

Jack: Yeah, next to the blue whale. Look at the killer whale, how small it is as compared to the blue whale.

Cristina: Yeah. And that dinosaur with a long neck. How big was that thing?

Jack: Well, based on this size, not too crazy. It was definitely just about taller than the mammoth. And the mammoth was about 14ft. So this was from the shoulders about 17, 18ft tall.

Cristina: Well, that beats a giraffe, right? How tall does the giraffe get?

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: The giraffe gets 16 to 19 inches tall. Inches. Feet, Sorry, feet tall. That'd be crazy. This is the world's smallest giraffe. That is 16 and 19. That has to be the tallest creature, right?

Jack: Yeah, Tall, but not the most massive, but yes, definitely the tallest.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But its height is nothing compared to the whale's length.

Cristina: No. It's hard to imagine. There's not many things. You can't compare any animals. It's probably like. What was it again, the length? 100ft.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's a lot of giraffes. That's 20 giraffes on top of each other.

Jack: Just looking at the size comparison, it's crazy that the mammoth was still taller than the T. Rex. Like we think of the T. Rex way bigger than it really is. Because I guess we pictured the T. Rex a lot like Jurassic park tried to show us. It looked like. Yeah, but no, it's way smaller than that.

Cristina: But the T. Rex wasn't the biggest carnivore dinosaur either.

Jack: No, there's probably bigger badder ones. There's just some advantage. Maybe it wasn't even a successful one. For whatever reason, humans just have an.

Cristina: Obsession with it because of its ridiculous tiny.

Jack: Well no, people think it's cool. Oh, T. Rexes are cool. They're so edgy.

Cristina: I don't get why kangaroos aren't cool like that.

Jack: Kangaroos aren't cool at all. People laugh at kangaroos. They think they're buff, buff dummies.

Cristina: But they also have tiny tiny T. Rex arms. T. Rex arms. But they have the ability to like hop very far, I think.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: So that beats a T. Rex.

Jack: Maybe a T. Rex could jump really far too.

Cristina: That would be insane.

Jack: What if one is the natural evolution of the other?

Cristina: A T. Rex to a kangaroo?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Well, I don't know anywho.

Jack: Definitely. As we discussed last week, I guess the blue whale was our conclusion before it was the largest, right? Yeah, but the elephant is also like land wise the most massive. Even if the whale will body an elephant overall.

Cristina: But we didn't talk about the most dangerous or we talked about like.

Jack: No, the literal most dangerous is the mosquito and then the snake.

Cristina: Pretty crazy.

Jack: And all those tiny animals, little fuzzy tiny thingies. Which two of our primates.

Cristina: Mm. We learned a lot about animals this week. More than last week.

Jack: Yes, because last week it was the power of Google. Now we went in a little further which ended up in the same conclusion. That blue whales are the champions of size and definitely mass and probably power, all things considered. Effortlessly.

Cristina: Yes. And what was the fastest friggin bird?

Jack: It was a hawk or. No, it was a falcon that goes 240 miles per hour.

Cristina: Wait, did we talk about what water animal goes the fastest?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Do you know?

Jack: No.

Cristina: Oh no. Okay.

Jack: We have no idea. But anyways, if you guys enjoyed finding out about these animals, you can find out the conversation that promoted this in the first place, which was last week when we were just googling animals. So you can go check that out and I guess posts, I guess follows look primarily just follow social medias. You know you can find us on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, usconvopod.

Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.

Jack: Yeah, reviews are amazing. Leave us some.

Cristina: And that someone who might like this.

Jack: Show know about it, word of mouth. Always. Great. Tell people about the show and they will come and listen with you.

Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Do they have flat earth? There's.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That makes it sound like they're like, I don't know, type of alien. Like there's regular earth, there's. And then there's the flat earthers. Like they look flat or something.

Jack: Oh, yeah, Yeah, I see what you mean. But now. So, yeah, that's how Martin Luther King are related. Is related to penguins.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because of that one interesting incident. Only because penguins. Could civil rights laws be passed in the first place.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Yeah. Penguins allowing the message to get across. After Linden Johnson talked to the penguins, telling them what message needed to be delivered and then being like, okay, we agree this message should get across, but.

Cristina: How many other things were penguins involved with?

Jack: Anything that involves the wall. Yeah, whatever that would be. Whatever somebody going through the wall would be that you interact with penguins.

Cristina: But is then this one the biggest thing that they're involved with and that's why their holiday is right next to it?

Jack: Probably not. There's probably bigger things because why would.

Cristina: They pick that day, though?

Jack: Who picked it?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Whoever picked it assume it happened at random.

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Rambling 122: Leprechauns and Other Fairies

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What creatures remained in Ireland after St. Patrick was done with it? And why did they stick around? Dissecting the concept of fairies on this episode!

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The Duo dive into leprechauns and fairies in general in order to understand the true complex nature of what the aftermath of the St. Patrick Massacre was. A desolate, monster infested wasteland is the least of the problem for the people of Ireland. It gets worse when spirits are introduced!

Rambling 122: Leprechauns and Other Fairies

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  • Jehovah the Demi-God
  • Sprites
  • Peter Dinklage
  • Navi
  • Tricksters
  • Giant Rat Fairy
  • Banshee
  • Succubus
  • Jeepers Creepers

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideals in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes, and also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner, so be sure to find somebody to make your listening partner, regardless of who they are, regardless of where they're from, regardless of. Even if you saw them on the street, casually, as they were walking, you point at them and you tell them, hey, you're my listening partner.

Cristina: And what if they walk away?

Jack: Well, then you resort to other means of getting that person who you've chosen and thus must be the one.

Cristina: They must be the one.

Jack: You chose them now. They are the one. They are the one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. That's how it goes. So the world works?

Cristina: You just make them the one?

Jack: You make them the one.

Cristina: Is it like love at first sight?

Jack: Yeah. You force them to be the one.

Cristina: The one.

Jack: The one.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's your listening partner.

Cristina: That's not creepy.

Jack: No, no, it's very normal. People do it all the time.

Cristina: Mm. Guess what holidays coming up.

Jack: What holiday?

Cristina: St. Patrick's Day. Our favorite saint.

Jack: Yes, that's the OG saint. The saint that gets. He. Basically, he's God. He's the only guy God is scared of.

Cristina: He's a God. He's a guy God is scared of. What?

Jack: Yeah. God makes God do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants, simply because he wants.

Cristina: Yeah, well, God, I guess, isn't the only person afraid of St. Patrick.

Jack: I mean, he makes God scared. I'm sure just by, you know, process of elimination, everybody else should be scared.

Cristina: Yes. And everyone was scared. That's why I found the story, a different story of that he. Of him getting rid of snakes. But it wasn't just snakes that he got rid of. It was snakes and demons.

Jack: Snakes and demons?

Cristina: Yes. And there was this specific demon that didn't want to run away. When he told all the snakes and demons to leave and then they ran, what happened was he told them to leave, I guess. And so they drowned into the ocean. They listened and drowned and died.

Jack: Sweet, but what the f***?

Cristina: Yes. That's how he got rid of them. By murdering them with his words.

Jack: Sounds legit.

Cristina: Yes. And there's this specific one that can't pronounce her name, but in English, we could call her the fire Spitter.

Jack: The fire spitter?

Cristina: Yes. And she's either the devil's mom or all demons. Mom. Mom. Yes. There's two different ideas of what she was besides the fire spitter. That's what I found. It's unsure, right?

Jack: Kind of like vampire hunter D or something.

Cristina: Yes. So she might be the devil's mom. But anyway, when he was getting rid of all the snakes and demons from the island, she decided to hide.

Jack: So she survived for a little while. And she let all her children die.

Cristina: Definitely because she's too busy trying to stay alive.

Jack: It's like, f*** this. Every. Every man for themselves.

Cristina: Yes. So, like, he went on top of a mountain, and he told them to go into the sea and drown, and they did. And then she somehow. I don't know how she managed to escape, but maybe she, like, closed her ears when she saw him on the mountain. Like something bad is about to happen.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And it did. But he saw her before she could completely hide herself, and he chased her down with the fastest horse Ireland had at the time.

Jack: Faster than de Demons.

Cristina: Yeah, actually faster than demons because he did outrun her while she was running. She was too busy, though, throwing Spitfire into every water. Well, because she thought, oh, this is gonna take forever, and eventually he'll get thirsty and drink water. But he was smart and was like, I'm not going to drink this poisoned water. So he didn't drink the poisoned water, and he just kept going. And then he passed her, of course.

Jack: You mean caught up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It wasn't raised. He wasn't like, well, I passed you. You're behind me.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. And then he waited for her. And then when she came, I mean, and then when he saw her, he jumped. He jumped out of his hiding spot and banished her. And then she also drowned into the ocean.

Jack: Sweet. Okay, so everybody died.

Cristina: Yeah, everyone died, but she was the last to die.

Jack: So he's just killer of demons, forcing creatures to commit suicide left and right and sell God. So he controls gods, angels, demons, everything. He's just some sort of overpowered deity that we don't even label a deity. But he's like. He's beyond the demigod.

Cristina: He's. He is the God.

Jack: Like, we have to assume Jehovah is a demigod based on the traits we understand. Jehovah, he's. He has emotions. Yeah, an omniscient God can't have emotions. That. That wouldn't make sense. Right, And God can get jealous, angry, all these things. God needs you to worship. Him. Because he's not. He tells you specifically, worship me. No. Other gods is like, okay, so there's others like you. You're not omniscient. You're not every God all at the same time. You're one of them. Yes, but it seems like the real omniscient God is Saint Patrick. What he had a horse, is faster than demons. He could just will that to happen.

Cristina: Well, they gave it to him.

Jack: Who?

Cristina: I don't. The Ireland people. Yeah.

Jack: It was just a normal. That means it was just a normal horse. They gave him a normal horse.

Cristina: Was the fastest horse.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like here.

Jack: But to them, fast is different than to him. And he got a horse and it was probably, you know, normal fast.

Cristina: It was like a winner of normal horse races.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. But then he got on the horse.

Cristina: He powered that horse, became the fastest horse.

Jack: Knight Rider type of s***. He got on the horse, the horse flamed. It burst into flames, and it was just leaving a trail of fire.

Cristina: It died that day.

Jack: As soon as he got off it, it just became normal. And it was on fire. Yeah.

Cristina: Yeah, it died.

Jack: But he doesn't care. He kills everything.

Cristina: He kills everything. Well, if you.

Jack: That's why God is like, I'll do whatever you want. Just don't kill me.

Cristina: Because God is just an angel, a demon deity.

Jack: He's a demigod.

Cristina: Okay. So complicated. But what's even more complicated is I tried to find out what a fairy was, right. Because of St. Patrick's Day in Ireland. And they're known for fairies, right?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And I'm so confused. I'm so confused. Fairies are so many things, but what they originally were, they were seen as deities. Gods. They were gods.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: But then over time, because Christianity came to the island, they were demoted to stay around so that they wouldn't have to actually get rid of them. Because I guess the Christians actually like these stories, and they're like, wow, they're pretty interesting. But what if they were just creatures, magical creatures instead of gods? Because there can only be one God. So I don't know. Is God stronger than their God if he could turn them into magical creatures?

Jack: It was St. Patrick that did it.

Cristina: It was St. Patrick. Oh, yes. Okay.

Jack: The pioneer. The guy who brought Christianity to Ireland. St Patrick then decided, yeah, I'm a strip you guys of your exaggerated godlike powers. I don't want you to be gods anymore. Now. Now you're just f******. You're gonna be there like the humans. You can be just a different f****** creature.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then he did that, well, these.

Cristina: Guys were, I guess weren't that powerful anyway because they were the original people living on Ireland.

Jack: So you're telling me Ireland is Olympus?

Cristina: Is Olympus. Once upon a time, maybe like they were able to travel from the other world into Ireland and they loved it so much that they lived there. But then other people wanted Ireland for themselves. They've had many wars trying to defend their home, but they finally lost to St. Patrick. To the Irish people or to the ancestors of the Irish people, one led by St Patrick. Yes, he's a time travel as well. Time traveler as well.

Jack: Are we just to say that St. Patrick's is the real Kratos?

Cristina: Yes, the Kratos, Yes.

Jack: Yeah, he was just the mortal once upon a time. But eventually he killed a God, got all God's powers and used that to manipulate the rest of everything. St. Patrick, the real God of war.

Cristina: Well, from what I understand, these gods that were defeated by the Irish people shrunk themselves. They loved Ireland so much that they decided we'll just be small and live underground.

Jack: And thus the invention of midgets.

Cristina: Close, I guess. Leprechauns. Leprechauns and so many other creatures. Okay. There are so many different types of fairy races. You probably didn't think of them as fairies though. Which are dwarves, elves, gnomes, goblins, brownies and pixies.

Jack: The h*** is a brownie? Is that a racist term?

Cristina: No, it's just another short magical, human like creature thing. Yeah, they're all short magical, human like creature things.

Jack: Okay.

Cristina: Yes. And what I feel like when somebody.

Jack: Says leprechaun, they mean all of these things. Leprechaun is the blanket term? Almost.

Cristina: No. Leprechaun is a type of fairy.

Jack: I get that.

Cristina: Fairy is the blanket term thing.

Jack: Fairies, the blanket term.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Do Westerners say leprechaun and mean fairies and all the other stuff to Western like they mean fairy and fairies, the blanket term to them. When we say fairy, we think Na' Vi from Ocarina of Time.

Cristina: There's no fairy that's like that fairy. We made that up.

Jack: My point is exact.

Cristina: Okay, that's not a thing.

Jack: Westerners say leprechaun and mean all the different kinds of fairies.

Cristina: I don't know. I think we just see leprechauns as leprechauns.

Jack: Right. But if you showed us a different one of those fairies, what would we call it? We would probably call it a leprechaun.

Cristina: Even an elf. If we saw elf or gnome. We know what gnomes are.

Jack: Oh, S***. Okay, there we go. Now we're getting to places.

Cristina: Dwarfs. You know what a dwarf is?

Jack: A dwarf is just a person.

Cristina: No, they're magical little people. They're magical.

Jack: Whoa. So you're telling me Peter Dinklage is a magical fairy?

Cristina: No.

Jack: And that's why he has all these jobs.

Cristina: He's sprinkling has become two different things. Okay.

Jack: He's sprinkling his fairy dust all over people. You're telling me he's unfairly in justly getting these jobs when Wee man should be getting some of them?

Cristina: Look, fairies are complicated. They're very complicated. He may be a fairy because fairies could be every and many things. There's so many words for fairies. You could say fairy, but you can also call them sprites, you can call them spirits, you can call them supernatural entities. You can even call them angels and demons.

Jack: Right? Okay. We've established this in the Shadow Realm episode. For further information, go back there. Listen to that. Get informed.

Cristina: It is so annoying. It's so annoying.

Jack: It is. When I was figuring that out.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I came across a lot of these problems in which limbo is purgatory, and that is the Shadow Realm, and that is an alternate version of this reality. And that what's there is here and here is there. And it's the same, but different. It has a different name, but it's the same. It's like. Yeah, it's complicated.

Cristina: There was one thing about the other, the other realm that I don't know if you talked about that I think. If you haven't, I just want to mention, though, is that time works different there.

Jack: Probably. The concept of time in itself might be entirely different.

Cristina: Yeah, but, like, for the rare people that have been able to go there and come back, hundreds of years would pass by.

Jack: It depends.

Cristina: It depends.

Jack: It depends. Let's say you get there through some form of astral projection, and you're there as a spirit. Right. Your spirit might be over there hundreds of years, and over here, hundreds of years don't pass. You might come back after being hundreds of years over there and it was only one night's sleep over here.

Cristina: Oh, I read the opposite of.

Jack: Well, that's my point. It depends on the approach that's happening.

Cristina: Oh, okay. All right. So it's. That's as complicated as the word fairy. Okay.

Jack: It's very, very f*****.

Cristina: Yes. But. Okay, so there's the leprechaun, the most famous fairy. Right. Maybe.

Jack: I'd say that other than Navi, she's not a fairy. What the h*** is she. They call her a fairy.

Cristina: That's an American made up creature. So is Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell is not a fairy.

Jack: Well, she's not a fairy by their terms. But then you have to tell me that a Japanese dragon like Shenron and then a Western dragon, that's like a giant lizard, like an iguana, a ginormous iguana with wings that breathes fire, are not both dragons.

Cristina: Okay, well, we're. Right now we're just talking about Irish creatures. Okay. They're not Irish fairies.

Jack: Got you. They're not Irish fairies.

Cristina: Correct. Because this is an Irish episode to celebrate our favorite saint.

Jack: Got you.

Cristina: So. Yeah. So what was it? Navi.

Jack: Navi.

Cristina: Navi. I guess that's a Japanese fairy.

Jack: Yes, but she's not an Irish. And she's specifically a Shinto Japanese fairy.

Cristina: Okay. And then I guess the Americans made. Not the Americans. The English made Tinkerbell.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay. But yes, none of these fairies have wings. I guess is one interesting different thing from all the ones that you could think. The ones you mentioned.

Jack: Yeah, you can actually see that in a lot of cultures where there is a shift in there. If we go back to the dragons, the Japanese dragons don't have wings. They're just like floating snake things.

Cristina: I thought it was the Chinese dragon.

Jack: Oh, it's a Chinese dragon. Well, I guess both of them, right? Yeah, they're pretty similar.

Cristina: Okay. The Asian dragons and then.

Jack: Yeah, Asian dragons. There you go. The Asian dragons don't have wings and then the western dragons do. Yeah, the Asian dragons are kind of like a snake, but the western dragons are like a lizard.

Cristina: But they're both huge, I think. Right?

Jack: Yeah, they're both ginormous. Although I believe the Japanese dragon is much bigger. Do they have. Are there any fairy, like any dragon, like fairies without wings and like floating snake thing or. They're all little people.

Cristina: They're all little people. I will talk about. I do want to talk about some other creatures in Ireland that I don't know if they're under the fairy description.

Jack: Interesting. So then tell me which one are the fairies? What? Break them down and explain these to me.

Cristina: Okay, there's. I'm gonna mention like. Okay, there's the leprechaun, of course.

Jack: What's the get up there?

Cristina: He's the lucky fairy, I guess. He's the one with the gold in the end of the rainbow. And you can get it if you catch him. He'll grant you three wishes, but you have to do it quickly because he'll try to trick You. And that would suck.

Jack: Trick you how?

Cristina: Well. Oh, One of the things about these fairies is they're all tricksters. They're all tricksters. I don't know if there's any fairies that aren't tricksters, but they all seem like tricksters. And they're not seen as evil. Trick tricksters evil either. Yes, but some of them do sound evil. Some of them are evil tricksters. Some of them are just regular trolley guys. But the leprechaun seems like the good kind, I guess, of the tricksters. Anyway, there's a story about a guy who caught a leprechaun and he wished to be taken to the gold. And the. And the leprechaun did show him where the tree was, where the gold was hidden. So the man put a marking on the tree and he let go of the leprechaun to find a shovel. But then when he came back, all the trees were marked the same way he marked the tree that he had.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yep. Yep.

Jack: So there was no way for him to tell which one it was?

Cristina: Nope. He really messed up on that.

Jack: Yeah, so.

Cristina: So if you get a leprechaun, he shows you the gold, you gotta somehow.

Jack: Get it at that moment.

Cristina: At that moment, yes.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: I wonder if you can waste the wish, though, to have the leprechaun help you get the gold and also to leave you alone.

Jack: I'm sure there's wish rules, otherwise systems would be broken. You could also wish for many wishes if you could do that, you know.

Cristina: Yeah, but could you trust a leprechaun to tell you the rules of the wishes if there are tricksters?

Jack: Well, on the first one, you wish to be told the rules. If you have three wishes. On the second one, if it's not against the rules, then you wish for more wishes. And if it is against the rules, then you didn't waste a wish and instead you asked the leprechaun to help you. Unless that's also against rules.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: In which case you still got two wishes, but I don't know, like, one.

Cristina: Of the other still has to be to show you where the gold is.

Jack: Yes. Okay, fine. So now you know where the gold is. The other one has to be, don't kill me while I take this gold.

Cristina: Don't kill. Well, he might not kill you. He just won't want you to steal his gold. So he's gonna do some other weird thing that probably hurts you, but doesn't murder you. Yeah, he's not evil.

Jack: Don't disrupt me at all.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: While stealing Your gold.

Cristina: Alright. Even though they're not seen as evil, there are some stories where they sound a bit evil. So there's this story about a king who fell asleep on a beach and when he woke up, he found himself being dragged into the sea by three leprechauns.

Jack: To drown.

Cristina: I'm pretty sure to drown him. Maybe he's related to St. Patrick and they're like, we gotta get revenge.

Jack: It could be. Who the h*** knows? Maybe it was St. Patrick, but he.

Cristina: Was able to catch one of them and. And they granted him three wishes in exchange for them to release him.

Jack: And then what was one of the wishes?

Cristina: I don't know. To be released.

Jack: That's it. Guy just got. We got the story of a guy who caught a leprechaun and we don't know what he wished for.

Cristina: He died. It was a lie. They're just trying to cover up that they're evil because there's some. There's stories that differ between whether a leprechaun is harmless or really, really evil. So I guess it depends. I don't know. Some are evil, some aren't. That's what I'm going with.

Jack: There is a literal movie about evil leprechauns, I believe, called Leprechaun.

Cristina: Yeah, it's some weird horror movie series thing.

Jack: Serious. Oh, it's. There's many of them.

Cristina: There's many movies. So many. Like it's like a Freddy versus, you know, a Freddy movie or a Jason movie. It's just like he keeps coming back.

Jack: Oh, is it the same leprechaun?

Cristina: I'm not sure. I think so. It looks the same. Crappy looking version. I've never seen a nice looking leprechaun. Yeah, version, but okay, like Chucky. Who does he ever change his look? It's always the same dude being in a doll, right?

Jack: I think so.

Cristina: That dude is just unlucky. He should just die. His life sucks. I don't know what he's doing. Although everything he's doing in the rest of the movies make no sense because the. In the original movie he was. If he can't get into a child's body in I think a certain amount of time, then he's stuck in the doll's body. So that's it. He's stuck in that body like the rest of the movies don't make any sense of him trying to get into another person's body because he wasted the time. It's over for him.

Jack: Yeah, that's weird.

Cristina: But he still tries. But. And of Course, never does. But even if he managed, it doesn't make sense to the first movie unless they change that in the reboot. But anyway, there are other types of things that are very similar to leprechauns, and one of them is, I guess, he's a lot like a leprechaun. But he loves to drink and he's famous to haunt wine cellars and drink all the wine in there.

Jack: So he's an alcoholic?

Cristina: Basically, yes, he's the alcoholic leprechaun. And he's also described as a trickster and a practical jokester because I guess most leprechauns are. Then there's another leprechaun type fairy which likes to seduce women.

Jack: As a short individual.

Cristina: Yes, he's really good at seducing ladies. He goes to lonely places where I guess they're just like, why? I just want to fall in love. And then he comes and then they're like, whoa, make love to me. I don't know how his magic works. He comes on them and he comes on them. But it's very unlucky to meet him. Very. Because his skin is addictive and put in to it's toxic and addictive and seducing the person, they really. They really just become addicted to him. Like they need him.

Jack: Right, so it's his power.

Cristina: Well, it's his skin's power. I mean, yeah, it's his power, like superpower type thing. And the women end up dying from withdrawal after he leaves.

Jack: So they all die.

Cristina: Yep, yep, they die. But then there's the Farduring, which is the evil leprechaun, because none of those are evil. They're not evil. Except for that one that sounds a little.

Jack: How is this one any more or less evil?

Cristina: Well, this guy. Oh, his name translates to Red man. This guy Redman, he wears a red cape and hat and he does some really gross practical jokes. Like he likes to put people into sacks and kidnap people. And then there was a story where he makes them make him dinner and then when they look at the dinner, it's a witch. I don't know. I don't know how that's evil or whatever. That's just weird.

Jack: Very strange. Yes, yes.

Cristina: This is a very strange thing. But usually he just traps people in rooms.

Jack: That doesn't sound like malicious or evil. It just sounds like a douchebag.

Cristina: And. Yeah, it does. It does. He does terrifying noises. One of them is described as laughing like a dead man, which I'm not really sure what that sounds like, but that sounds like, it would be terrifying if you knew that that's what you're specifically listening to. Maybe it's a person you knew that died and you hear that laughing.

Jack: That would make sense.

Cristina: That's kind of horrifying.

Jack: Yeah, Like a very distinct laugh that you shouldn't be hearing.

Cristina: Mm. And he's also the people. The person stealing the human babies and replacing them with changelings. Remember the changelings we talked about last year?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Yep. He's the one. He's. He's the one doing it.

Jack: Why does he kidnap the children again?

Cristina: To replace them with. I don't know. To replace. As a joke, I guess. To replace them with fairy children. Right.

Jack: And then what does he do with the kid?

Cristina: Don't remember we talked about this last year, and I don't remember. You don't remember?

Jack: No.

Cristina: I'm not sure. Maybe the kids are slaves while they're baby. Like, they don't.

Jack: Underwear gnome logic.

Cristina: Yes, But I guess the purpose, though, of stealing the human babies so that these other babies could be raised and they don't have to actually raise the babies. Fairies are lazy, and they don't want to raise their babies. So they're like, let's get these humans.

Jack: To raise our babies minus a human baby they now have to raise.

Cristina: I'm sure they're not raising those babies. They throw them in the trash.

Jack: And thus the question of where trash babies come from is answered.

Cristina: Yes. That's where trash babies come from. They're also. They also bring nightmares. And they just. They just like to terror. Terrorize people. They just love terrorizing.

Jack: I mean, minus the kidnapping part. Everything else is pretty. Pretty chill.

Cristina: Even the swapping babies thing is chill.

Jack: That's the part I'm talking about.

Cristina: Oh, I thought you meant the other kidnapping of, like, when he made the guy cook and then it somehow became a witch, or trapping the person in a room, and then the scary voices.

Jack: None of that is kidnapping.

Cristina: None of that is kidnapping. But that all sounds pretty bad. No. Okay.

Jack: Sounds scary, not evil.

Cristina: Okay. Well, there's one way to avoid his tricks. You have to say, you will not mock me before he traps you.

Jack: So you could just walk around saying, you will not mock me.

Cristina: Yes, but they. But it's really hard because they set up very good traps. So you have to say before you're trapped, but you might end up being trapped before you say it, so you gotta say it. I guess you have to walk around saying it, just hoping not to get trapped.

Jack: Yeah. Or is it just, like, how. What's the Deadline on this. Can you just say it now and then you're just good forever?

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know. Probably not. You probably have to walk around saying that they're also called rat boys because they're fat.

Jack: The evil ones?

Cristina: Yes, the evil ones. They're fat. They have dark hairy skin. They have a long snout and a skinny tail.

Jack: So they don't look like dwarfs. No, they don't look human.

Cristina: They don't. They look like a giant rat. I guess they look like a. They look like a giant rat. But they're still described as being a type of leprechaun. But an evil leprechaun.

Jack: An evil rat. Leprechaun.

Cristina: Evil rat. Leprechaun. Yes. That cause nightmares and bad luck.

Jack: I feel like this is totally backwards because instead of it being a little person, it's just a giant rat.

Cristina: It's just a giant rat. Oh, it is a giant rat. Yeah. Maybe it's not a leprechaun. Maybe it's just a giant magical rat.

Jack: Sounds like it.

Cristina: Yeah. So then it's just a fairy. Not really a leprechaun. A leprechaun. So who knows. And then there's some other Ireland creatures. There's these things called the Merrow men. And the merrow. The Merrow men are ugly sea creatures. And the females are called marrows. Are beautiful because they're always beautiful, aren't they? All the women are beautiful in these type of stories.

Jack: Yeah. That's how the succubus is so attractive. And the incubus is, I don't know. A monster.

Cristina: Yes. Oh yeah, we talked about that too. Yeah, that's. And the Merrell. The Merrells are not. They're not mermaids. They have human legs instead of a tail. Except that they're. They have large flat feet and webbed fingers to help them swim.

Jack: So they are basically the swamp creature.

Cristina: Yes, they're the swamp creature. And the Merrell's ability to. To swim in water or to travel in water is from her clothes. She has a cape or a cap, depending on the story. And when she takes it off, she loses the ability. And usually a man will find it and hide it so that he could marry her because she's beautiful. And also she has lots of gold from the sea, I guess.

Jack: Okay. Sweet. Fantastic. So like a half fish woman. That's gorgeous.

Cristina: Yes. And rich.

Jack: And rich.

Cristina: Yes. And then. But if she finds her missing cape or cap, she'll end up running away and returning to the sea, leaving her husband and their children and many Families claim to be descendants from these Merrells who were entrapped by fishermen.

Jack: Really? Like, somewhere up the line, their grandma was a fish lady who jumped in the water. And we're sure that it wasn't just a crazy lady who committed suicide?

Cristina: Yeah. It could just be a lady who just abandoned her family. Maybe committed suicide, maybe not. Maybe she just abandoned her family and they were like, no way would she abandon us. She must have been a marrow.

Jack: Chances are the father made that lie up for the children.

Cristina: Yes. And then there's this thing called a banshee, which is a female spirit. I'm not sure. Spirit, fairy, sprite? I don't know.

Jack: I've heard of banshees. They're known for screaming.

Cristina: They're known for screaming? Yes. Well, crying. They're considered a omen of death. Whenever you hear her, you could assume someone's about to die.

Jack: That makes sense. They. They're known. You like, you hear them in the woods and s***. A lot of the time you hear the screams of a banshee. There's a couple of songs about that too.

Cristina: Really? Well, there's some stories where they just find her by their window. She's just next to their window crying.

Jack: That's f****** horrifying.

Cristina: Yes, well, her appearance isn't that. Well, sometimes. It depends, because she has three different appearances. She can look like a young lady, she can look like a regular woman, and she can look like a withering hag. So her age varies.

Jack: F****** banshee.

Cristina: And she can also appear as a crow, weasel or another creature called a stout. That, I think is also a type of weasel.

Jack: I didn't know that. So she could, like, shapeshift.

Cristina: Yeah. And I have three stories of this banshee lady. There was a couple who stayed at a friend's castle, a friend's castle. And on the first night around 1am, the wife heard a cry by the window. And when she looked, she saw some lady there, a lady leaning on the window, crying. And she woke up her husband scared and stuff. And then in the next day, they told. I don't know if they told their friend the story, but anyway, the next day their friend told them that she was all night up because she was with her dying cousin and her very sick cousin. And at the same time, he died. Okay. She told them that even though it's the best room of the house, there's a ghost of a lady that haunts the house. The ghost is of the former owner of the house who killed his wife. His pregnant wife. And that's the banshee that hangs out in the window?

Jack: His former wife? Yeah, but she died inside the house. Why is she hanging outside as a ghost?

Cristina: Why is she hanging outside as a ghost? Because that's what banshees do. I don't know. There's no stories of a banshee hanging out inside a house.

Jack: So she got killed and was like, I'm gonna go outside now.

Cristina: What if she got killed outside?

Jack: I thought she got killed in the house.

Cristina: No, he got. He died in the house. Her cousin died in the house.

Jack: Didn't he kill her?

Cristina: No, The. The owners of the house. The original. The former owners of the house. The husband killed the wife.

Jack: And that's the banshee.

Cristina: And that's the banshee? Yes.

Jack: The wife that died.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why didn't she haunt the house from inside the house where she died?

Cristina: We don't know that she died inside the house.

Jack: Didn't he kill her in the house?

Cristina: He killed her and they lived in that house.

Jack: Got it.

Cristina: But that doesn't.

Jack: Got it, got it, got it.

Cristina: I understand.

Jack: I understand.

Cristina: Like, yes, maybe he did kill her in the house, but I don't. We don't know that. We don't know where he killed her. It could be anywhere. So. But that's one story. Then there's stories where people from Ireland, they move far away and a banshee still follows them. It finds their way to them.

Jack: That's interesting. Reminds me of that show that's totally full of s*** of the people who moved into the house. Or do you know the people who tell them they're f****** the time I saw a ghost or whatever the f***. And then they got reenactors and s***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The ghost story in the room.

Cristina: Oh, yeah, okay.

Jack: That s*** that. This reminds me of that, like, he would. They were like, if we move, we'll be fine. Then they did, and then he stopped seeing her for a while, and then she popped up again.

Cristina: Well, she was hispan. She.

Jack: Except she wasn't screaming. She was just hanging in a closet. Except she was originally from the closet that she was hung in.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then she was just like, now, Imma go hang in your new closet.

Cristina: Yes. And then I think he also saw.

Jack: Her outside, which makes no f****** sense because presumably she was haunting the place, Meaning now she haunts you. And anybody who lives in that house is fine.

Cristina: Now, I don't. I don't know how ghosts work. What if they can haunt more than one thing at a time?

Jack: That's crazy. Anybody who goes through that house is haunted by the saint. So if everybody in the world stayed at that house and then moved, they would all be haunted by the same ghost at the same time.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's what's happening with this banshee. Basically.

Cristina: Except none of his family was haunted and they all lived there. Maybe have to be in that specific room.

Jack: Could be.

Cristina: How are we gonna get all these people into that room?

Jack: That's crazy.

Cristina: That's crazy. But yes, like the banshee and these, these two stories, they moved to. They moved to Canada and Yeah. They heard the cry. And then the next day in one of the stories, the man of the house and his oldest son died in a boating accident. The next day after they heard the strange cry, they also asked people about the strange cry and no one saw anyone by the house, but they all heard the cry.

Jack: That's fascinating. I wonder if that has happened recently, like with banshees, you know? So banshees is an Irish creature.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Interesting, interesting. Because that's prominent in Western culture. That's prominent as h*** over here because.

Cristina: Irish people came over here and brought their banshees.

Jack: Interesting, interesting. Can you imagine? Like, let's say banshees are for facts. Real, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, I'll probably hunt one down. We'll make that a mission. We'll add them to the collection of f******. What do we have so far? F****** werewolves and reptilian vampires. And vampires. We got a bunch of s***. Imprisoned.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: On Mars.

Cristina: We want to find if banshees can haunt people that aren't related to Irish.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: So that.

Jack: That'll be interesting to see a banshee for now.

Cristina: Alright. Because some first. For now it's only been people from Ireland or. Yeah. That have some blood in Ireland that they hunt.

Jack: That's so weird. I'm curious. A banshee is a really weird creature. It really is. Because it's like a person, but also not.

Cristina: It's not a person.

Jack: Yeah. Because like you're saying in Irish culture a banshee is a leprechaun.

Cristina: Not a leprechaun.

Jack: A fairy.

Cristina: A fairy? Yes.

Jack: Okay. It's a fairy.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: In Irish culture the banshee is a fairy.

Cristina: Yes. The best description is a spirit. But to me it seems like spirit could equal fairy. Could equal whatever.

Jack: Yeah. Because they're used almost interchangeably.

Cristina: Yeah. So that's why I'm not sure what she is.

Jack: So when we get to her, it's kind of vague. Because a woman died and became a banshee.

Cristina: Yes. In this story. Yeah. Or the banshee haunts where the woman died. And it's not the woman.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Interest. Holy crap. That's kind of fascinating. Wow. So it could either be that people turn into banshees or.

Cristina: I never thought that people could turn into banshees in. With these things. It seems like these creatures in Ireland are separate things. They're not human. Yeah. They're their own species.

Jack: Enter the shadow realm, a place where there is a part of people that naturally exists. And upon crossing the threshold, that was still the person, but it's also not. So is the banshee a tortured soul from the shadow realm that crossed over. So maybe it was that woman's spirit. Yeah, but the shadow realm version, maybe. Intense emotion, fear, and all these things that are required for a creature from the shadow realm to manifest were all present at the death of this person and maybe lingers in there as people know about the story and create the fear that allows the banshee to continue manifesting on this side.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It is her tortured soul from the other side.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Although she died somehow, her soul didn't die. Maybe adrenochrome isn't the only way.

Cristina: Yes, maybe adrenochrome is, but then that would mean like all the emotions and feelings and stuff are somehow part of it.

Jack: Yeah. Because we know that people extract adrenochrome or whatever they're getting that keeps them alive from the fear itself.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Where they don't need the adrenal chrome. So if you get enough of that all in one shot. Is that what a haunting soul is? Like a spirit that's left behind? Right. And you're haunting a place. That's your version. That's your spirit that's from the shadow realm.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That came through. But why? It's usually because you were killed brutally or some. Some horrible thing happened, except your soul couldn't fade away. The crazy amount of emotion, fear, sadness, all those things existed at the moment of your death and tethered your soul to that.

Cristina: But it's still. The Banshee is very different from regular ghosts because it's. It's only here to warn you. Like someone's about to die, which regular ghosts don't really do anything.

Jack: Or Spirit. Yeah, because ghost is an spirit.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Regular spirit or shadow person.

Cristina: Yeah. As far as we can tell, they're not any type of warning sign. They're not going to tell you anything. Thing about the future.

Jack: Yeah. They're not there intentionally. They're just echoing through. Or if they.

Cristina: The banshee is more like the groundhog?

Jack: Yeah, it's more like the groundhog. It's there for information of some sort. But my question is, is it choosing to, or is it a reflex? Is the Banshee incapable, capable of telling.

Cristina: People that it's someone they know is about to die?

Jack: Yes. Do you know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Like, do they have to do it even if they didn't want to? They're just somewhere where death is. And they scream at death.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But then again, if we think of the Shadow Realm. Again, not to stay on the Shadow Realm topic. The reapers also call the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Other realm, because that's what this is in this place now, I guess.

Jack: So the other Realm, the reaper comes from the other realm. And the Reaper handles life. It is a delivery mechanism in the form of a physical being.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And maybe the Banshee is terrified of the Reaper. Of the Reaper. Because it's always maybe coming for the Banshee.

Cristina: She's warning about the Reaper then.

Jack: I don't think she's warning anybody.

Cristina: She's just horrified. Of the Reaper?

Jack: Yes, because that's a lingering tethered soul to the wrong side. And the Reaper delivers souls.

Cristina: I don't know. But I think this third story might change our mind a little bit about that. Because in the third situation of a Banshee haunting a man because his daughter was gonna die, but he didn't know that she was healthy, strong, and beautiful. And then one night, he heard a voice coming from his window, and it said. Which is weird. Like, they usually just cry. And it was crying too, but it also said, in three weeks, death. In three weeks, the grave. Dead, dead, dead. That's what he heard. And then the next day, his daughter got sick or was showing symptoms of a fever. And then three weeks later, dead.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting. So it was a warning.

Cristina: It was a real warning of, like, I know what's gonna happen.

Jack: It's not that they're seeing death actively in the area, even if other people can't, because they themselves are ethereal and seeing other ethereal beings.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's that they're seeing the future.

Cristina: Yes. Like, maybe it does see death coming, but it knows, like, specific.

Jack: Oh, my God. We're missing one thing that you mentioned earlier.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And then I specified earlier, time works differently on the other side. So maybe from this side they're saying, death is coming, but it takes crazy long here. But from that side's point of view, it's immediate. He's approaching quick. But it could be weeks.

Cristina: Yeah. Even though this one is specific. Or maybe he remembers it as it being super specific.

Jack: Maybe they were super specific. Maybe the person the banshee telling the information knew specifically the. The conversion rate of time.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And was like. Well, it takes them about three hours on this side, so we'll say like three weeks.

Cristina: Yeah. So like banshees may know the time difference equivalent of what's going on. Okay.

Jack: Just a possibility.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. And then there's the Fear Gorda. And Fear Gordas look like zombies. Actually. I think they are zombies, but we're just gonna. Well, they're like zombies from like old fashioned zombie movies. Like they're. They got bones popping out of their body. They're like super thin, they have bluish skin and their flesh is rotting.

Jack: Yeah. So it sounds like a zombie from an old school interpretation of a zombie, but like a freaking God decided to look like this s***. It was like f****** reason for it though.

Cristina: During famines it comes around and it asks for food. It asks people for food who are already dying in a famine. But if you give him the food, he'll reward you with. But if you give him food, he'll reward you with a lifelong wealth and prosperity. And those who don't give him food will have bad luck and poverty.

Jack: Sounds pretty badass. So he's testing the morality of people.

Cristina: Yes. In the worst situation, in the life and death situation, because it's a famine.

Jack: So you're starving. I'm starving. Do you care about others? Can you.

Cristina: That's a true test. That sounds very godly.

Jack: Yeah, that's very noble.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He's testing a real person. Like, do you remain a good person in the worst of circumstances?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then you deserve good things.

Cristina: Yes. That's pretty interesting. Yeah. And then there are stories. There's two. There's like. Okay, I'll say. There's like three stories of these creatures that are very vampire. Like the author of Dracula might have based it on these creatures because he's Irish.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: But he also liked folklore, so. And he did travel, so he of course also based on other famous vampires and stories.

Jack: Transylvanian legends and whatnot.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. So the first one is called the Avatar, the evil Irish magical dwarf king who was like. He was just pretty evil. And he killed. He was killed and buried standing up. And then the next day he came back from the grave and used his magical powers to be even more crueler than he was before. And he loves to drink the blood of his victims, of course. And there's only one way to stop him. You must kill him. And Bury him upside down. Very vampirey.

Jack: Very vampirey. Including all the weird ways to get rid of them and crap.

Cristina: Yes. The second vampire is a lady, and she is called the Red Bloodsucker. She's known as the Red Bloodsucker. She seduces men and then drains their blood. One of the stories about how she became a vampire was that she was in love with some poor peasant dude, and her father didn't like that, so he made her marry some rich dude who treated her terrible. And then eventually she committed suicide. But then she came back to get revenge on her father and her husband, and she sucked their blood until they were dead. And then now she does that once.

Jack: A year to random people.

Cristina: To random people.

Jack: She's Jeeper Scrapers.

Cristina: Well, to men, specifically. She wants men.

Jack: Oh, so she's a succubus.

Cristina: She's a Succubus. Well, yeah, but she's a vampire. And there is only one way to, quote, unquote, defeat her, because it's not really to defeat her. Like, what, did you compare her to a succubus? No, before that. Jeepers Creepers.

Jack: Jeepers Creepers.

Cristina: To stop her is like, Jeepers Creepers. You don't really defeat her. You put rocks on her grave and then she can't get up.

Jack: Yeah. You just enable her.

Cristina: Yeah. For only a year, and then she'll try to get out, and then you got to put some more rocks.

Jack: She sounds very Jeepers Creepers.

Cristina: Yeah. So maybe Jeepers Creepers was inspired by some Dracula stories or.

Jack: No, it was actually inspired by a song.

Cristina: By a song. Oh, yeah.

Jack: But that song could have used not only the song, but it could have been like a mesh of this story, a song, and a bunch of other crap to make. Because Jeepers Creeper is a scary m***********.

Cristina: Yeah. But that whole coming back every 23 years, or whatever it was isn't from the song, though.

Jack: No.

Cristina: No. So like, maybe that was inspired by this type of story. Yeah. And then the third vampire, like, person or demon? This one's more. This is a fairy vampire, and her name is Lennon Sid. I think that's how her name is said. And she's a demon that likes to inspire poets and musicians. But once they. Once they make the thing that they're gonna make, I guess she drinks their blood, she shares with them her intelligence, creativity, and magic. But when she leaves, the men go into a deep depression and they die. Then she will take her dead lovers back to her lair. And then, rather sucking their blood, she puts their blood into a Giant red cauldron, which is the source of her beauty and artistic inspiration.

Jack: Fantastic.

Cristina: Yep. So to prevent her from rising, you have to also put stones on her resting place.

Jack: Interesting, Interesting. So definitely a vampire, too.

Cristina: Yeah, she's a fairy vampire, which I guess the dwarf guy is a fairy vampire because dwarves are fairies. But then the second lady, she's just a vampire. She was human, and then she became a vampire.

Jack: So we're back to the same problem of the difference between a spirit and a fairy.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. That's why it's all so complicated. And I'm not really sure what is. What if they're all the same or if they're not the same or whatever. Where's the lines?

Jack: Yeah. Cause it seems like they do blur.

Cristina: Yes. And then the last creature, because there's so many creatures. But I'm just gonna stop at this one. It's called the Questing Beast. It is a cool creature. It's also an evil creature who has the head of a snake, the body of a leopard, the backside of a lion, and the hooves of a deer. And its cries. Its sound. The sound it makes sounds like the cry it makes sounds like the bark.

Jack: Of 30 dogs all at once simultaneously.

Cristina: Yes. And I think it's called the Questing Beast because many knights have tried to defeat this beast. I don't know if any has succeeded.

Jack: But so they go out of their way. It's an accomplishment. They're trying to do status thing. If I defeat it, I am a legend.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Okay, so it's a western dragon again. You go defeat the dragon for the status now. It will be the best knight ever. Everybody will know. And so the Questing Beast is the same idea.

Cristina: That's the same thing.

Jack: Very interesting. It sounds like a Pokemon.

Cristina: It sounds like they'll turn this into a Pokemon someday.

Jack: Yeah, fair enough. Then again, they don't make Pokemon out of animals anymore. It's sooner that you'll have, like, microphone. The Pokemon. There probably is a microphone Pokemon. I'm pretty sure that's a thing already.

Cristina: No, not yet.

Jack: I think that's. There's a microphone Pokemon.

Cristina: That's the next evolution. I mean, the next season or whatever.

Jack: There's a Pokemon. It's called, like, Mikey or something.

Cristina: No, it's not Mikey.

Jack: Yeah, man. There's totally a microphone Pokemon. Oh, my God. What is it? What the h*** is that thing? Is that a real Pokemon?

Cristina: I think that's fan. A fan art. Because there is a Pokemon that has different forms that looks like that, and that's what they're making fun of, I think.

Jack: Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: But we could double check. Look, his name is Rotom, the voice form. Okay, let's see what Rotom's different forms are, though. Okay, so he's Rotom.

Jack: Could be a frigerator, f****** lawnmower. Modem, a laundry. He could be a washing machine. He could be a grill. He could be a fridge, a freaking fan. And what the h*** is that other one?

Cristina: This one? This one. The original, I guess, is just, like, normal electricity. Yeah. And then he. Yeah, he turns into things that need electricity.

Jack: Bro, what the h*** is going on with Pokemon?

Cristina: Close enough. You're right. There's a microphone.

Jack: There totally isn't, but there should totally be a microphone.

Cristina: Look at him. He's a Pokedex.

Jack: Oh, my God.

Cristina: So there's fan art of, like, the many different things he could probably turn into. If you can be these things, there's probably a limited, unlimited possibility of what he could actually turn into.

Jack: Freaking Rotom.

Cristina: As long as they're electric. I mean, electronical, right? Yeah, like a computer.

Jack: That makes perfect sense. But it's like, why is this a freaking Pokemon? A blender. A toaster.

Cristina: I'm not sure what this one's supposed to be.

Jack: Where's the other one? Next to it.

Cristina: That one?

Jack: No, the one that's a toaster. What the h*** is that?

Cristina: No idea. Okay, so people are getting really creative of what this should look like. What?

Jack: Freaking Rotom, bro.

Cristina: Yes, I would like to see Quest Beast as a Pokemon.

Jack: That'd be cool. Questy. Questy Equestrian.

Cristina: Oh, that's a cool name.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is a cool name.

Cristina: Well, that was awesome. And there's a lot of creatures in Ireland. Ridiculous. That place is popular.

Jack: Yes, but what has made me interested about everything you've talked about is really digging into a banshee. Yeah, like, at this point, we've become the new Sam and Dean. They're off air. They're. They're. They're living their lives. We still hunting? S***, they stopped. We're still going. We're still hunting.

Cristina: Yeah, they're the ones that taught us.

Jack: Yeah, except we have a freaking army of subhumans provided by the Chinese cloning program. Yeah, which is totally fine. Look, it's totally fine. Actually, it's not the cloning program. We're the clones. It's all the aborted babies.

Cristina: The aborted babies make the.

Jack: The subhumans.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Aborted babies equal an army of subhumans that are superior because they're genetically engineered and then turn into Superhumans that then we use to hunt these creat like the ones in Ireland. And now I am fascinated by a banshee.

Cristina: Except that these creatures have. Are really secretive and they can hide and stuff. And like, I don't know. Finding a banshee really hard.

Jack: I'll figure it out, okay? I will figure out finding a banshee.

Cristina: Well, that's gonna be fun.

Jack: It's gonna be astounding. I will find the banshee by any means necessary.

Cristina: All right?

Jack: I promise. That much.

Cristina: I can't wait.

Jack: Yes. It's gonna be exciting.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Anyways, if you guys enjoyed this conversation and many conversations of this nature already exist on this show, that you can go find those locations would be to find them on the official website, greathoughts.info Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. UsConvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate, and review.

Cristina: The show and let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. It's totally amazing. Scream at people as if you were a banshee and tell them, hey, you're gonna love that. And they're gonna be like, yeah, I will. And you're like, yeah, cool. Scream with me. And then they'll scream with you. You should do that to random people on the street. Because they love it.

Cristina: They love it.

Jack: They love it.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal. And thanks for listening. Bye.

Jack: Kekken Apheos. Go on. Hang in hand.

Cristina: And that's what KEK is all about.

Jack: Chaos. Yeah. Embracing chaos. It's a natural part of everything. But so is order. And having order and reason and logic. In no moment does Kek's chaos interfere with Pastafarianism. Logic. The goal is be reasonable. Same thing with Kek. You control, but you don't hurt people.

Cristina: Because it's just a joke.

Jack: It's just a joke. If you're crossing the line, you're f****** up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You're doing it wrong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's not about hurting other people. It's about that balance of you can have fun. Some people are gonna get annoyed.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But they should know that they're getting annoyed at a joke.

Cristina: It's so weird how anything could have a religion. Thinking of Shaggy. Shaggy. The church of Shaggy.

Jack: Yeah. What happens with Shaggy is the idea that destruction is equal to creation. So not only do we maintain balance, but we need to understand that sometimes things. A good example is, as writers, we often have to get rid of something and destroy something because it's just not working out. It's the weak link in what we're trying to do. And sometimes you're attached to the idea, but the story isn't attached to the idea.

Cristina: I usually just remove them. I don't delete them or anything.

Jack: Well, you can remove them, put them somewhere else, but you're destroying the concept you were working with to change it for something else.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that just goes hand in hand with. To maintain balance, you must destroy sometimes.

Cristina: That's an interesting way to see it. Yeah.

Jack: Shaggy is important.

Cristina: He is.

Jack: He's important in everything. You must destroy in order to create their hand in hand.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 96: Real Zombies

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Did you know that zombies are real? Nature has been making them for millions of years through insects and other creatures. Discussing the real zombies of nature on this episode of JCP.

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The duo decide to delve once more into the realm of zombies and the undead to unpack what it means to be a zombie and where the line is drawn between a zombie and being undead!

Rambling 96: Real Zombies

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