Rambling 112: Controlling Society

Who truly controls the country? Is it the People, the Businesses or the Government? Breaking down the pecking order that runs the United States of America.

The duo unpack the structure of society and politics. Between how the government controls the people instead of the other way around, to the overpowered nature of boycotting and cancel culture, the truths uncovered on this episode reveal the dark lies of the country and much more! Find out what on this episode of Just Conversation.

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• Government
• Blue Pill vs Red Pill
• The Boss’ Boss
• Facebook Data Scandal
• Tech Big Five
• Political Structure
• #MeToo
• Boycotts
• Cancel Culture
• Facebook Conspiracy Groups
• Alex Jones
• Protests

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Jack: Have you ever wondered who controls the money, who controls the companies, who controls the government, and who controls the people? Find out all that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So you grab somebody, you sit them the f*** down, and you tell them, I'm the one in control here.

Cristina: Why does it have to be like that?

Jack: I am the one who's in control. You've. Why. Why can't they just ask kindly?

Cristina: Yeah, it's never just a. Okay, could you. You. You might be interested in this. Why don't you just listen to it with me?

Jack: Why would you ask somebody to kindly listen to the show with you when you can make somebody reluctant? Listen. If somebody is already willing to listen to the show, that's fine. They're probably gonna stumble on the show. You need to force somebody who wasn't willing. Bigger audience.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: More people. Those who want and those who don't.

Cristina: Want and those who don't want will probably not listen again or.

Jack: But they heard we got the view. We're paid, bro. Oh, that's how it goes.

Cristina: Helping us out?

Jack: Yeah. All those listens pay off. So, yeah, you sit them down. You're like, I'm the one in m************ control here. I control what you do, when you do it, how you f*** it. I'm the government. From this point forward, you. You gotta listen when I say listen, or I gotta tax you.

Cristina: Then what's the tax money? They're gonna make you pay them for forcing you to listen to them.

Jack: Yeah. If you don't listen. Yeah. If you don't listen, you gotta pay. And then that money makes it to us. We're secretly taxing them. We're part of the government. We were for the Illuminati, I guess. We're not part of the government.

Cristina: We're not.

Jack: No, we're part of the Illuminati. We're like an agency that's superior to the government who's trying to bring truth to the people. The woke. Truth to the people.

Cristina: Who's bringing the truth Us or the government?

Jack: Us. Like, the government wants to offer truth?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Only the Illuminati wants to offer truth. None of these government agencies or political officials are telling anybody the truth. They're all just trying to con the people and manipulate the people and control the people. Man. The man just wants to control you. Man.

Cristina: Yes. All the men in the government, though.

Jack: None of the women though. Just the men.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Just the Man.

Jack: Yeah. Like they're gonna give women power.

Cristina: Then why are there women in the government?

Jack: So that they can con the people into thinking that the people's. It's. It's the red pill. You give them the blue pill. Oh, the government's control. No, wait. The blue pill. No. Oh, s***. That's weird.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Because the blue pill is the government's. Fine. It's a functional system.

Cristina: It's perfect.

Jack: And then the people who are like, oh, but the government's f*****, and you're being lied to. And you're a g****** she. Those people. Those people get the. Hey, look, your vote put a woman in office. I guess it's working now, right? And you're like, yeah, I made that happen. And so you ate the red pill. You're like, yeah, this new reality is the real reality. And I'm not a sheep.

Cristina: Still suck. But I'm telling. What, the telling the government?

Jack: Yes. That illusion. I'm in control. My vote made it my soul. Vote changed everything.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's totally not the. Because you ate the red pill, bro. It was given to you by the same people who gave you the blue pill.

Cristina: Then what's the reality?

Jack: The red pill brought to you by the makers of the blue pill. Like, what the f***?

Cristina: Who. What's the truth?

Jack: The truth is the government is shafting you no matter what the f*** you do. The government doesn't work for you.

Cristina: They should, but they're just people, so are they also just hurting themselves as well?

Jack: Who? The government?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: No, because they're using tax money to fill their pockets. They're not hurting themselves. What are they doing? They're taking the money they put in into their own pocket. Again, they pay no tax. If you work for the government, you technically pay no tax because you're putting.

Cristina: Away the money that you're getting back later.

Jack: You said any branch of the government gets paid by taxpayer money.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Every branch, all of it. 100% you% pay no tax. By working for the government, you immediately pay no tax. If you're a political official, like an officer, they pay no tax.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Community hospitals, they pay no tax, none of those deals. Those people are all paid by the government. Meaning the tax they pay from their.

Cristina: Check is our money.

Jack: Yeah, that goes back to their own pocket. They took money and then put a little of it back, but they still took the money out of the tax. So while politicians, on the other hand, they take giant sums because they can shuffle the money until it disappears. And it's like, oh, well, we distributed some over there, some over here, some over there. This one went through those hoops to get into that hoop to enter this system that was supposed to go for that thing, but then that thing needed, you know, this, this and that. So we have to break that up.

Cristina: Ozark or something.

Jack: Yeah, you're just like, yeah, it's a giant money laundering scheme where you're just mixing the money over here, passing it over there, moving it through here, it gets over there, and suddenly it ended up in your pocket. And nobody can explain how because we can't follow that mess you created.

Cristina: Yeah, no one's investigating.

Jack: Nobody's invest. And when they do, they get removed and replaced by somebody who's gonna do it better. That's all it is. We don't control the f****** government. No, we don't control the f****** government. You know who does control the government, though? Lobbyists.

Cristina: Lobbyists. That's company people.

Jack: Company people. Company people who go and make laws. That controls the government. Not f****** we. We don't control the government. The government simply wants us to think we control the government. That's the f****** red pill that the matrix gave us.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Yes, the illusion is we're in control, man. For the people who are like, the government works. And no, we don't have to control it. It works the way it needs to, but. But then there's a red poll. The government's supposed to respond to us, bro. And if it doesn't, it's not functional. And it's like, we need to rise and vote and s***. And then you vote and s***. And you just voted somebody from a list that they gave you, but you think it was your list because you voted, but they gave you the list of people to vote from.

Cristina: Mm, sucks.

Jack: Yeah. You're choosing out of the people we prefer. Which one do you want in office?

Cristina: These are our two favorite picks up here.

Jack: Yeah, these are the two people we think should be running on top. Which one of them would you like? Here, here, we'll throw you a choice. And it's like, I couldn't choose who made it all the way up there. No, no, no, no, no. And you know what's weird? How does this even get selected? Right, so we have like the, let's say the presidency. Right? We have a presidency race.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we have people who are fighting, arguing or whatever and debating and s***. When they, they run out of f****** like, oh, I'm dropping out.

Cristina: Mm, right.

Jack: Why are they dropping out? Based on what did they just f****** run out of?

Cristina: Who? We didn't vote yet cuz they already assume they're losing.

Jack: Favored yet, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What you just dropping out cuz someone.

Cristina: Paid them to drop out or are.

Jack: They running out of money? Like I don't. Dude, what the f***?

Cristina: What about all those other people who don't go to the base debates? Is only a two party thing.

Jack: That's weird, right? Other parties, they only want you to see these two people, our two candidates. You make a choice between our two.

Cristina: Candidates and ignore the other.

Jack: Like everybody.

Cristina: 10 people.

Jack: It's like a million parties.

Cristina: Yeah. And they show it to us on you.

Jack: Oh, we don't f****** know who they are. Yeah, they made sure we only know two people.

Cristina: Unless you like dig deep, I guess.

Jack: But how a country isn't gonna do that. They're relying on a laziness of a country. That's the whole goal. They're relying on people being lazy and not doing the homework. That's why they only show you the people they want you to know about.

Cristina: Yes, man. The laziness wins out. That's the whole like people are like going crazy over how this. Most people voted. How did like how has it increased this much? Did people start caring or something and it's like, nah, they got it home. It's easier. It's laziness.

Jack: Yeah. They mailed you the ballot and it showed up on your doorstep.

Cristina: Yeah. And then you just had to mail it out or put it in a box. Like it's so much easier than standing in a line, signing yourself in, waiting some more, etc.

Jack: Yeah, it got done for you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's f****** weird. People are lazy as h***. And that's how the government. The government knows this.

Cristina: That were lazy. Yeah, but aren't they lazy? I guess not. Because they have a drive, which is that money.

Jack: Yeah, the government has a financial drive. That's all they care about. The government only cares about money. Everybody only cares about money.

Cristina: And the lobbyists though, well, the lobbyists.

Jack: Also care about money. They just need the right laws to.

Cristina: Make their s*** work to make them more money.

Jack: Yeah, it's all about money.

Cristina: So the money rules the world.

Jack: Sort of. The lobbyists are ruled by the companies. Usually they are the people who are paid by a company to go do a thing, go convince the f******.

Cristina: Then the companies rule the world.

Jack: Well, then that becomes a problem because the people control the money.

Jack: It's. Nobody owns anybody. Everybody's somebody's b**** in a perfect circle.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It goes like this. The people control the money. The money controls the companies. The companies control the government. The government controls the people.

Cristina: And the people control who? What?

Jack: The companies.

Cristina: The companies.

Jack: Well, they control the money, which controls the.

Cristina: They control them. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Jack: The money flow comes from the people, the everyday people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the money controls the companies.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Companies will do whatever the f***.

Cristina: Like Barry washing us through ads. Ads everywhere. Ads. 24. 7.

Jack: Yeah. 100%. And they need to be on our good side. If we become aware of anything, they have to react and be on the side of the majority. Always. 100%. Jeff Bezos, perfect example. We said he'd go out and shoot somebody the moment that his money was threatened and his money was threatened. And what's the first thing he did? He went outside and he popped the m*********** in the head.

Cristina: He did not really do that, but he did something close, you know?

Jack: Yeah. Somebody said, we're not gonna use your system because you. You. You haven't taken a stance because you're.

Cristina: What was the.

Jack: Well, he hadn't sided with anybody yet. He had a. Like, did he even have a banner? No, they didn't have anything. Right. They made no stand. So black people were like, nah, we're not doing this. And then he was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no. I'm. Pick a side. I'll pick a side. I'm on your side.

Cristina: So you waited for someone to be.

Jack: Angry, and then when he put the Black lives thing, because people were like, well, now's the moment to make a stand. Whoever the f*** you are, whatever company you're running, you make a stand. Or you. If you don't stand with us, you. You're against us. And he wasn't making a stand until people were like, Amazon doesn't seem to want to pick a side, so we're just going to stop using that. He was like, wait, hold the f*** up. I'm on Black Lives Matter. And then that's when the other people showed up. And it's like, you're the minority. Kiss a**. When he. When he released the message in return. Because first it was people boycotting anybody who didn't want to participate.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then that's when he was like, okay, banners, Black Lives Matter.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But then the f****** people who thinks Black Lives Matter is racist showed up.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they were like, well, we don't support Black Lives Matter, so we're gonna stop using your platform. And then he replied, go kiss a**, cuz you're the minority and your money doesn't mean anything.

Cristina: Yes. That's awful.

Jack: That's awful. But you gotta be wherever the money ends.

Cristina: And that's all he did.

Jack: That's all he did. He sided with money because he's controlled by the money. Amazon is owned by the money. Buy the money. And if the money isn't there, Amazon is garbage. And this applies to every company in the world. Money runs the company and the people run the money. You please the people or f*** your s***. Yeah, but if they can influence the government who controls the people, then they can get a little bit of leeway. That's why Facebook is in deep s***. Because Facebook did not please the people.

Cristina: No. Especially after everything came out.

Jack: Yes. Facebook illegal s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And because it was elite, had Facebook done it legally through the government the way other companies do to always be in the clear. But Facebook didn't want to put out the money. Facebook wants all the money.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And because they didn't put out the money to bribe the government to legislate s***.

Jack: Then it wasn't law, meaning what they did was illegal. And when the people found that illegal s*** was happening, Facebook loses money.

Cristina: But that's because the government investigated it. Because they were like, we want this. We don't want you to have it anymore. We want this information for ourselves. If we just tell the people about this, then it's ours.

Jack: You think that's what happened?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Did the government want the information? The government already has access to all this s***.

Cristina: Well, they don't want it with everyone. They want every company to give them the stuff. They weren't happy that Facebook wasn't giving them whatever, so they did that.

Jack: No, that's not true.

Cristina: That's not true.

Jack: That's not true. Apple doesn't give anybody s***. That's not true by any means. The government would be falling down on Apple like a ton of bricks if that was the case.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There are people who are Apple loyalists and they are dedicated and every penny they spend is through an Apple product in Apple systems, buying Macs and iPhones and this s*** dash s*** and f****** earpods and crap. So if that was the case, Apple would be shafted.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's not. It's simply that the government is ruled by the lobbyists. The lobbyists that did force the laws to get made. There were. None of. None of them were from Facebook and none of those laws were assisting Facebook. And the government needs to keep the illusion that it's following the laws and enforcing the laws. And Facebook did something in plain sight. It was discovered. So now the government needs to keep face and attack. It doesn't give a f***. Pay us and we'll let it go. But now it's in the light. You can't just pay us anymore because had it been law, we would have been like, it's perfectly legal. You got caught, but it's legal. Who cares? But you got caught and you didn't pay us to make it legal. So now you can't pay us. Now you're already f*****. It's in the light. If you suddenly pay us now, it's obvious. The illusion fades and we need to keep the lie that the people control us. So we have to behave like the people are controlling us.

Cristina: And what exactly are they doing, though?

Jack: They're getting. They're probably gonna destroy Facebook, to be honest. But they're making Facebook share its information. That's definitely what is happening. But they're not making Apple share its information. It's not really about the information. It's about Facebook didn't make it legal first.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And Facebook is losing money because it didn't follow the trend. It didn't do it didn't play the game. Facebook didn't play the game and wanted to win. And that's not how you win. You got to play to win.

Cristina: You got to play to win. You got to follow this step.

Jack: You got to follow the step. Facebook didn't pay off the government. The government has no reason to be loyal to Facebook.

Cristina: And we are still in charge somehow of all this.

Jack: We rule Facebook because we're the money. We could just be like, nah, we're not going to invest in any company. And preemptively. People didn't boycott s***. They're just like, we're going to stop advertising on your platform so that we're not associated with your fall.

Cristina: You see, because the people.

Jack: Exactly. Because your partners with Facebook. Oh, oh, really? We'll just stop using your s*** too. Then they preemptively in mass. They were like, yeah. They're like, peace, bro. F*** yo. S***.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So money controlled all the companies that were advertising through Facebook and Facebook loses money because it didn't want to play the game.

Cristina: How dare they.

Jack: Meanwhile, Amazon tyrannical destroys everything in the world. This small business is crushed under its weight. But also they play the game.

Cristina: Yeah, that's him. But don't people still have a problem with them?

Jack: Yes, because we know they're schemy, but you can't do anything because they make it all legal.

Cristina: But doesn't the government want to break them apart?

Jack: Well, they think the company is too powerful. There's a difference between the power of Amazon and the corruption of Facebook. Those are two very different monsters. Facebook is corrupted. Facebook is broken. Facebook uses user data and sells it without user knowledge. Yes, now they let people know. But you've already been doing it illegally for so long. There's already a trial about all the time before you let anybody know.

Cristina: They're still going to get in trouble for all this.

Jack: They're still in trouble. They f***** up all the other companies the moment they saw it happen. What did they do? Wait, we're gonna make everybody aware of everything? Every.

Cristina: They were involved. They were the ones. Are they? They were the ones that were paying Facebook for this info?

Jack: Yeah. H*** yeah.

Cristina: Like they're just pretending we had nothing to do with it?

Jack: Yeah, for the most part. Well, advertisers. Yeah, advertisers. Okay, so retailers and s*** like that. Those are the same people who pulled out, the people who were buying the s*** that Facebook was selling. Those are the people who pulled out.

Cristina: Of Facebook, but they're not giving out that information.

Jack: The government, I mean, as plain as day, who were they selling it to? The advertisers. Who were the advertisers? The people who f****** love Facebook.

Cristina: Okay, so no one else is paying attention that they're just boycotting Facebook and out these other companies who left before.

Jack: Well, let's think of it like this. You're walking down the street and you couldn't buy your daughter some shoes. There were some brand new shoes she loved and you don't have the right money and it was $200. You're like, we can't afford that. A crackhead pulls up and he opens a box and he's like, hey, I got some shoes for sale. And he opens a box and they happen to be the right size. The exact shoe your daughter wanted. And he's like, you could have it for $10. Then I get just wants crack. That guy just wants crack. That dude just wants some crack. Just let him have his crack. What are you gonna do? You can probably buy those shoes. Yeah, you can look at them. Is this real? Is it? Holy s***. It is all labels, right? It's in perfect condition. Doesn't look worn. He's like, yeah, it's never been used before. He clearly stole those shoes. But also, who's ever gonna be able to track that? Nobody. You just have shoes now. Are you not gonna buy the. No, you can buy the shoes. Does anybody give a f*** where you found. Nobody gives a f*** where you found those shoes. You clearly own stolen shoes. Yeah, but does anybody give a s***? No. That crackhead stole somebody. He has to go to jail, though. He stole those shoes. He has to go to jail. If he gets caught, he goes to jail. You bought something. The crackhead is Facebook.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You are the retailer.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: You bought stolen s***. Yeah, but like, everybody else would have.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: You didn't steal it. You just bought some s***. You bought it fairly. It was stolen. That doesn't seem like it's your problem.

Cristina: Because you could just say, I didn't know.

Jack: I didn't know. We thought this was all done properly. We made a deal that we can have data. They come up with. We didn't ask how you're getting your data. Yes, we were just getting data. We thought, you know, they. They run surveys and this and that. No, they're just stealing information. Oh, I'm so surpr. Yeah, that's how it works. Facebook wasn't playing the game. Facebook's f*****. Amazon plays the game. They play a nice game to the point that they're kind of unbeatable. Google plays the game.

Cristina: Ooh, there's no problem with Google. Google's fine.

Jack: Well, Google people hate that. Google can control its directory. It chooses what could go up there whenever the f*** it wants. The problem is, if you read those.

Cristina: Terms and services, that's what it can do. So it can reserve.

Jack: Yep. It reserves the right to delist whatever the f*** it wants, whenever the f*** it wants, however the f*** it wants, without warning, you use it knowing.

Cristina: And so the government can't do anything about that.

Jack: Nope.

Cristina: They can't just change the laws.

Jack: No. The problem with Facebook is they were lying about it. They weren't making it known publicly. All these other companies just read. Not only that, all these other companies have a simplified version of their complicated contract so that you can read it in simpler terms. If you scroll to the bottoms of terms and services, a lot of these have a revised version that you just click, and it's a shorter bullet point. Usually what they. Well, nowadays, that's usually what they show you first, and you can click for detailed version of it, but they give you now the bullet points. So that people can comprehend it instead of this giant 3,000 page thing. Exactly. So now they give you the bullet point one instead of putting it behind a million walls to trick you.

Cristina: Finally.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So that's the one good thing.

Jack: Yeah. Because nobody wants to be guilty. Everybody wants to play. Play the game. Boom. Boom.

Cristina: And we made that game.

Jack: We made that game through capitalism. We're consumers. It's a culture of consumerism. And so money controls the companies. Companies use the money to pay the lobbyists. Lobbyists use some of that money to control the government. And government changes its laws to control the people so that companies get paid.

Cristina: How can we use this information against the government?

Jack: How do we use this information against the government?

Cristina: Yeah, I guess if there are people who are really like, I need to do something.

Jack: Threaten rich people money. You can control the government if you control the companies. And you do control the companies. So for us, the companies, the problem is people are. It relies on the fact that people are consumers and people are lazy and consumerism is based on convenience.

Cristina: So they're gonna follow that company whether or not it's doing.

Jack: Yeah. The chain can't be broken. It naturally happened. Nobody was like, well, I'm gonna formulate it this way. There's no individual who made the system. System is just customs and behaviors that naturally fell into place and created what we're in.

Cristina: Mm. But sometimes we get together and change things ourselves.

Jack: Yes. When we force certain things to happen. We boycott enough companies, they're like, bro, I'm losing people on both sides. I can't be picking sides forever. We need to legislate some s*** that makes both sides happy so that we can get this s*** over with and I can get all the customers instead of f****** some of them. So we're gonna pay some lobbyists to go and force a law that is just down the middle enough that both sides are happy and my business doesn't suffer. And these are what the titans like Amazon and Google and Apple and all these m************ do they pay lobbyists to do those things that keeps their companies in the center.

Cristina: Yes. So I guess that's good, isn't it?

Jack: Yeah, it is good.

Cristina: It makes everybody happy until we're taking advantage of.

Jack: Well, we're taking advantage of. Because of something we haven't thought of yet. They find another hole, and then we patch another hole.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: There's always a loophole. It's a matter of finding them. Who finds it first? The government, the companies, or the people?

Cristina: If we find it first, then we could do something. If they find it first, they could just. Yeah, create.

Jack: If we find it first and it hasn't been in favor of the companies or the government. The government just listens to the people. There's no benefit or not.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: If the companies find it first, they abuse it. Usually try to put it into law secretly while they immediately put it into play, but then change it in law afterwards.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So by the time people realize it's happening. Oh no, it's legal. If the government finds it, they try to use it to control both the companies and the people. Yes, because the government needs to try.

Cristina: To keep its people. I mean, wants control both the company and the people.

Jack: Yeah. And the. Because what's the benefit of everybody Wants control of everybody.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because the companies want control of the government, but they also want to control the people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the people want to control the companies and they also want to control the government.

Cristina: Definitely. So the government would also want.

Jack: Our three party system is equal to our four party system in politics where we have the president is his own party, the Congress is its own party, the Senate is its own party and the people are their own party.

Cristina: And we all control each other.

Jack: And we all control each other in some way. The third, twice removed is not reachable. So people don't affect President, Congress doesn't affect Senate, Senate doesn't affect Congress, and the President doesn't affect the people. So if we make a box and put them all on the corners, the people opposite to each other, us opposite from President, Congress opposite to Senate. That's the layout. You can't affect somebody you're not directly touching with a line, but you can affect each other in that same way. We can control who's in the Senate and we can control who's in the Congress and they control who's the President and the President can control who's in the Senate and the President can control who's in the Congress. They control Senate and Congress. Yeah, along with the people.

Cristina: So in a way we still. It's still up to us.

Jack: Yes. It's a battle between the people and the dictator for the two people who control the people.

Cristina: And the dictator and the dictator could be either the government or the companies.

Jack: Well, that's a whole separate thing. We assume the entire political system, including the people as part of politics.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Is one system, but people independent of politics. We're talking capitalism and politics as two separate things. So people economics are included with Congress. I mean people economics is included with government and companies, while people politics is people, Congress, Senate, and president and those are separate things. If we have our three party system of the companies, the people and the government, we zoom in on the government. The government contains the people, people, the President, the Congress and the Senate. But when companies try to influence the government, they're trying to influence that entire group. People's thoughts on politics, the Congress, the Senate's behavior with money. And they try to bribe the President.

Cristina: Definitely. Yes.

Jack: But controlling our thoughts on politics is independent than trying to use our money. Because our thoughts in politics is what the government is trying to control. Yes, that's all just part of the government trying to influence us. So it's a whole f****** clusterfuck of things. The illusion that they're trying to portray is that people control the government, that the government controls the companies, that the companies control the money and that the money controls the people. They try to tell us the money controls us. You gotta work for it. Yeah, you gotta work for it. If you didn't work for, you didn't earn it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And if you didn't earn it, you can't do s***.

Cristina: We start to believe that though.

Jack: Yes. We believe we're owned by the money. We're not. We're the ones holding the money.

Cristina: But that's the. Wait, that's the government telling us that. Or that's the companies that are tricking us.

Jack: Everything is trying to convince us that it's that order. Yes, Everybody's trying to convince us that it's that order.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They want us to believe people control government, government controls companies, companies control money and money controls people.

Cristina: But it's not like that.

Jack: No. The reality is, if we think about it and use it properly, people control money, money controls companies, companies control government and government controls people.

Cristina: And if we knew that, we could actually do something. Although we do stuff, it's just very rarely. That it works.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That we actually like, I guess, bully the wrong company or the right company, I guess.

Jack: It's not that it rarely works. It's that the system is designed to move slowly to take into account knee jerk reaction. You don't want people to have a knee jerk reaction and then make a law out of it. Yes, that's problematic. That's what's scary about Democrats having the Senate two.

Cristina: Because then they can do that stuff. They're gonna have both parties.

Jack: Yes. I mean, the House and the Congress.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yes. If they have the House, the Congress and the Senate and the majority of people are also Democrats. Right now we have a scary f****** problem where the entire system is blue and Everybody who's just reacting to things Trump did are gonna create laws based on a reaction, no thought, pure emotion.

Cristina: That's all he's been doing, too.

Jack: Yes, but he can't do anything. He just looks like he's doing stuff. He tries to make it seem like he has power and people believe it. The people on the right swear he has power because he tells them and they'll believe anything. And the people on the left swear he has power because they hate anything he does. And they're like, look at how horrible. When in reality, half this s*** existed long before he was even.

Cristina: It's just easier to blame him.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Then, like, we've been doing this for.

Jack: Years, but he hasn't done anything. He's done nothing. Everything. Somebody else put. The only times anything really got accomplished in mass, it was when the parties were all aligned. When Obama was in office, it was all blue. He got s*** done.

Cristina: But you said that was a bad thing.

Jack: That was a bad thing. Many, many horrible things happened in that time. That was a very, very bad thing.

Cristina: And right now, though, it's not all red.

Jack: No.

Cristina: The house is blue.

Jack: The house is blue.

Cristina: Okay. Okay.

Jack: Yes. But the president is blue now.

Cristina: Yes. And everything's going back to being super blue.

Jack: Let's hope not.

Cristina: We're not sure yet.

Jack: Because if the Senate turns out to stay red.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then slowly, only things people agree on will get through. And that's the way it should be.

Cristina: Because that's more balanced.

Jack: Yes, that's the way it should be.

Cristina: Sort of just random stuff going through.

Jack: Yes. And I think the filibuster shouldn't be removed. The filibuster is that thing where one person can stop it if they don't agree. Like a bill going through.

Cristina: One person can stop.

Jack: One person can stop it. And it's like, if they have legit reason.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then it shouldn't go through.

Cristina: But do they at least have to?

Jack: I think they do. I don't think they could just be disagree. Why? Yeah, I don't want to.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: If that's how it plays out, maybe fix the fill up.

Cristina: Maybe fix it. Yeah.

Jack: But if it's. If you really got to explain your stance and have a good argument, then, yeah, I think it should be there. Because if one person disagrees, they are a representative. That's what a republic is. And we live in a f****** republic.

Cristina: And they forget that. Although Biden is, you know, acting like he's for both parties.

Jack: So if.

Cristina: I don't know if that's all talk.

Jack: Or what if a representative disagrees? They represent a huge number of people. You can't just be like, f*** your s***. That's not how it works. A pure democracy is dangerous because the minority will always suffer.

Cristina: Yeah, we should. We gotta listen to everyone, I guess.

Jack: We gotta listen to everybody. And that is a f****** problem.

Cristina: That too is a problem.

Jack: Well, if we don't listen to people. If we don't listen to people, we are faced with a very disturbing problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. The problem is that if you listen to knee jerk reaction and legislate or behave in response to things, you end up with problems. For example, there's actually a perfect example of people controlling companies through money.

Cristina: What's the example?

Jack: If you look at companies who fire people who have been accused of. Me too. Whether or not they have been proven guilty.

Cristina: Just assuming that they are.

Jack: Just assuming they are. Because the people, the louder voices are saying it. And people are paying attention to the louder voices. And we just gotta pick a f****** side immediately so we don't lose money. So we get rid of them. They don't boycott us because we're on their side. But you ruin somebody's life. Think of Netflix firing mad, mad, mad people over me too.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Think of shows firing mad map shows, movies, TV channels firing people over me too. Some of them. Many of them, there was f****** nothing. It turned out there was f*** nothing. Some of them had proof that there was nothing. That they were innocent.

Cristina: Yes. Like Kevin.

Jack: Like Kevin Spacey with text messages showing, I'm gonna tell them you did this. And it's like, why, if I didn't do that?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, because you're gonna believe me and not you. And it's like, too bad that got recorded, buddy. But how many times does this happen?

Cristina: Too many times.

Jack: Too many times. And after Kevin Spacey did it, people got smart and they're like, I'm gonna just record these conversations so that when somebody does that. And now we have several cases where people have proof. They threatened they were gonna do this.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they know it didn't happen. Here's the proof.

Cristina: That's how it should be, though.

Jack: Yes. But companies didn't give a s***. They fire people. And we're not going to rehire because the image is ruined. We can't. And that's in react. That's a knee jerk reaction. That's the companies in a knee jerk reaction to the people's knee jerk reaction. Companies being ruled by the money of the people do it.

Cristina: Yes. But they pretend that we're under Them under their control.

Jack: They pretend the money is controlling us when we're controlling the money.

Cristina: If we knew that we easily.

Jack: Well we were aware of it in these times. That's why we were like, we'll boycott you guys.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's where boycotting came in. Boycotting came as a result of being aware that. Wait, wait, wait guys, we have the money.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess the Internet did help because we always were boycotting beforehand, but not as much as now.

Jack: People relied on us not being aware of it.

Cristina: Yes. Like maybe one town will be boycotting and the rest of the country might not know about or they'll find out really late or something and be over it.

Jack: Yeah, it's just news. Oh, they boycott a thing. Oh for one. Oh, how interesting.

Cristina: Yes. But now it could be the world.

Jack: Because it could happen overnight. Yes. Your company could be destroyed overnight. So you react instantaneously and that's a problem. That's where all these companies suddenly changed their rules and terms.

Cristina: Ruin a company. That's the thing that you don't notice. But you could do it.

Jack: Yeah, you could destroy a company. And now we know it though, so. But the problem is we have knee jerk reactions as people. So now we don't like Sonic boycott and it's like what the f***? Now you're like swinging the other side. You're hung, you're power hungry.

Cristina: Being really picky. Yes. Empower hunger. Oh yeah.

Jack: You know you have the power now. You're gonna wield it like it's a weapon.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you can destroy anything you don't even like on. On nuance. Bullshit.

Cristina: Hey, if it's better though that Sonic one is the only one that's like eh, it actually turned out alright. But yeah, in other cases it's really unfair.

Jack: Yeah, it's pretty f***** up. But on the flip side, they can control how effective our boycotts are with what we're allowed to say when we're allowed to say it. If they can stop us from saying certain things on the Internet. Well we can't have them going to Twitter and saying all this s***. So we got to get lobbyists to go and make lobby for some laws so that they force all our competition to have certain. We gotta censor these people so they don't say certain things so that people don't know. Hey, we can put this s***. We could do that. Or we just censored topics that they think they want censored. We censored things we that they think they want censored. When really it's Benefit to us. The less they can say, the easier it is for us to move in those dark alleys that they've banned. And by putting lobbyists to go do this, we can get everybody to agree to certain terms that prevent the dialogue, that allows to boycott the dialogue. That allows for this type of. Yes, the dialogue. That allows for this information to flourish and destroy our. And that's companies controlling the government for their safety.

Cristina: They do a great job.

Jack: Yeah. Because even Twitter, the wild west, has randomly begun to censor s***.

Cristina: Yes. And Instagram. Oh, stop it. Instagram.

Jack: Well, Instagram is Facebook. And Facebook is overcorrecting because it's been attacked severely and it is scared. The government and the people. It's supposed to be in control of one. And it doesn't seem to be controlling either. Facebook is scared. So, like, we gotta overcorrect in every.

Cristina: Possible direction and just ruin ourselves more.

Jack: Yeah, it's kind of gonna backfire. They're gonna keep kind of snowballing in the wrong direction.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's going to be crazy, man.

Cristina: Twitter is on the same path, though. YouTube is sort of the same way too, of just blocking things for random. You say a word, you're not.

Jack: Well, actually that brings in the. The excessive power that companies. Because they control the election. The company, all these companies control the election. Social media controls the election. They choose what is allowed to see. So the ads, for example, a bunch of companies decided we're going to pull President Trump ads off of our platform.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because they're filled with conspiracy. Even if the s*** he's saying is true, how do you like. He can't. All of it can't be conspiracy theories, man. And maybe a lot of it is true. Maybe a lot of it. Maybe all of it is true. They could just say it's a conspiracy theory and the left is going to agree just because they agree and they're the majority. So f*** it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then you reduce the chance. Because the problem is people are confident with Trump in office and they'll say things on their mind that usually the left doesn't like. And when they see it on their platform, the left is like, well, we're gonna boycott this platform now. So we remove Trump and he doesn't get elected. Cuz people didn't see him. He went to the back of people's minds. We push Biden to the front. People like Biden more, they see him more, they vote for him. He gets in office, people stop saying s*** that's off the rails. And they don't boycott Our platform because some a******.

Cristina: So they.

Jack: Peace.

Cristina: Yes. So it has nothing to do with the mailings or any.

Jack: That's them pointing in many different directions. So that we don't look at the fact that they removed ads. They blocked and censored President Twitter's things and Facebook posts were amazing. His ads were hilarious.

Cristina: They were comedy genius.

Jack: Yes. And Biden and his boring s*** all got pushed to the front.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it was beneficial for the companies to have somebody who won't light the flame. Like it won't fuel that fire that.

Cristina: Exists in people who's boycotting the companies.

Jack: Yes. Because people who say crazy s***. People feel confident. They say crazy s***. People like, well, that's racist. And we're gonna boycott Facebook if they don't take it down. We'll boycott Twitter if they don't take it down.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And everybody's scared about their money.

Cristina: I did.

Jack: You threatened the rich people's money. They're gonna act.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And all these rich people got scared. Google, they got scared. People saying s*** on YouTube now.

Cristina: They don't want this, though.

Jack: Yeah. So everybody got they banned together. And we're like, we're with our powers. We're gonna get our lobbyists and we're gonna Earth, water, fire. Our powers combined. We're captain correct the government. And then they went ahead and basically put Biden in there themselves.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that the off the rails s*** stops and their companies are safe.

Cristina: Yeah. Because then there's nothing to look at. Because they could do it secretly without worrying that someone's gonna make a big show about it like Trump would do.

Jack: So they can legally censor whoever the f*** they want without somebody suing because they're gonna put that s*** into line. You know, we could take all the. How much s*** could they just label as conspiracy theory right now? Just take it down.

Cristina: Everything.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Like that. Fairway conspiracy. I don't know if it's a real conspiracy or not anymore. They said it was a conspiracy. That is not true of Fairway company. It's a furniture product thing that all the furniture is super expensive. And they were saying people believe that they're selling kids in the furniture, that there's missing kids and the furniture has the name of the kids. They were like, this is weird. Because the furniture without the kid's name is a different price. Like, why is it so much more expensive with a missing kid's child? With a missing kid's name on it. Are they selling these kids? And then all of that's counted as conspiracy? Of course.

Jack: I mean, it technically is. It is a conspiracy, but whether it's a true conspiracy or not is the argument.

Cristina: And they say it's false because. I don't know. It was a mistake.

Jack: Well, actually, this is another f****** program problem that Facebook has. It. Cultivating these f****** Facebook groups that creates multiple conspiracies.

Cristina: Yeah, it was a conspiracy machine.

Jack: Yeah, it's the breeding ground of f****** conspiracy theories. Facebook is where conspiracy theories are born. It used to f****** be 4chan and Reddit.

Cristina: Yes. And those are really private, like people. You don't know a lot of people in those things, do you? Yes. I mean, I guess if you're a part of it, you do, but you know.

Jack: Yeah, like the normal person know s*** about 4chan.

Cristina: Yes, your parent does it.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: They know Facebook.

Jack: Yeah, everybody's on Facebook. That's a problem. It's too easily accessible and it'll get blended in. If you like this thing, you're probably likely to believe that thing. So we're gonna bunch you guys up and throw all of them at you. And now you believe all the conspiracy theories that f****** happen on Facebook. So people, now Facebook, in its overcorrection has to f****** every conspiracy. F*** this s*** and f*** that and take it all down.

Cristina: Same with the news, because everything was fake news. Everyone constantly sharing fake news about just anything. Anything.

Jack: Yep, yep. Everything just proved this bullshit. And they. They don't even know at this point.

Cristina: No, they just. They just share everything. Whatever. I don't know, whatever was popular, I guess. I don't know how they found these things.

Jack: Well, actually that's funny because sticking on to the banning, like Twitter and Facebook banning. Alex Jones messed up when the s*** he was talking about turned out to be true. Yeah, that's the craziest, most f***** s***. And he talked about s*** from like 20 years ago or talked about 20 years ago about s*** that got proven recently to be true and he was just removed. Oh, it's conspiracy theory and blah, blah, blah. And it's like.

Cristina: No, because it's only though. Because one person actually acted out, though, towards it. They did that thing with sort of like Pizzagate where the guy went to the pizza place that. With a gun, I think. Yeah, whatever. Something similar to that happened with Alex Jones where one of the listeners went out and just. They. They would harass parents of a school shootout.

Jack: Oh, yeah.

Cristina: They didn't believe it was true because he said it wasn't true. And like, who knows? But now he's banned for what he said. But because of how the people Reacted from what he was saying.

Jack: But yeah, no, definitely it's. But here's the problem. Somebody reacting to something isn't his fault. But if truth is coming out, that could be something. You could do something with it. Yes, like crazy people react on other s***. Why don't you ban when other people behave random on other crap? How many people went around harassing Michael Jackson without knowing for a fact? Turned out it was true.

Cristina: Was it true?

Jack: I mean, not really. Nobody has definite proof. But the f****** documentary that came out makes it look like it's true.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so people were harassing him with none of this information. On rumors. Those people didn't get banned from anywhere. That happened on the Internet forever. No. Nobody banned them.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: We could harass people.

Jack: Yeah, you're allowed to harass. It's f****** weird, man.

Cristina: Especially celebrities. We own them for some reason.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Death threats to everyone. Why is that a thing?

Jack: And you didn't you think you'd think that the government would. In response to what people want? Because this is back to the illusion. In response to what people want. When situations like this come, you'd think people would just say a thing and the government would do what its job is, which is to listen to the people. But it doesn't. And it doesn't legislate until they get paid by the lobbyists because it should do things. But then people start to protest and people band together and hey, we gotta rise up and we gotta do these things because our rights are being abused by the government that should be listening to us. And instead of the government listening, what does it do? It sends armies of militarized police to get aggressive on protesters.

Cristina: Scary stuff.

Jack: That's the government controlling the people, not the people controlling the government.

Cristina: Because the people don't control the government.

Jack: Because the people don't control the government. They want you to think you do. Hey, go vote. That's how you make a choice. It doesn't f****** matter.

Cristina: Yes. You voted for them to send those cops to you.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: To beat you up.

Jack: Yeah. They intentionally write things in ways so that you vote for what they want. Again, you didn't pick who went up there. You picked out of the people they sent up there. That's a very different election. You don't pick who gets to stand on the podium and debate. You pick out of the people they sent to the podium to debate. That's them telling you you get to choose what happens in this government, do you? They chose two identical guys and sent them to the top. And like, which one's your favorite?

Cristina: Yes. So many. We're just. We're addicted to those pills.

Jack: Yeah. Blue pill, red pill, man. It's all the same f****** s***. But that's the government definitely abusing its rights. It's sending people and abusing its power, in that case, instead of putting laws. When it's their job to obey the people, they completely ignore it. And they do the laws that the lobbyists pay for.

Cristina: Yes, but if we do something, have we ever done anything that actually changed laws?

Jack: I mean, it does happen when we get really aggressive. Yes.

Cristina: When we get aggressive. Yes.

Jack: Protesting is how the civil rights movement happens.

Cristina: Yes. We just need to do that again.

Jack: You gotta get real aggressive and you gotta get scary on the government. You gotta threaten their way of life in exchange through. Oh, you could do it through the companies. Yeah, you got to threaten their way of life through the companies.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You threaten everything they stand for through the companies. The companies will force the government to do whatever the f*** you want. Don't even question it. You threaten a billionaire. A billionaire controls everybody. Don't worry about it. You threaten a billionaire, he's gonna do whatever the f*** you want him to do without a question. He doesn't have opinions. He cares about money. He doesn't have opinions. He sides with whatever opinion gets paid.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so do the politicians. Except you don't have millions in your pocket. The bribe of politician, the billionaires do. So you go ahead and you control that billionaire through their company and watch the laws you want take place. That's how it happens.

Cristina: That's how Jeff Bezos killed that person.

Jack: Yeah, he just went out and shot somebody. Perfect example of how this f****** works as well is the problem with the Senate and the Congress that they don't agree right now, but the money is for the people. Do whatever it takes to give the people money. But they're like, well, I don't agree with this. And I don't. Yeah, but the people are the ones suffering. But it doesn't matter because the people don't control the government. It doesn't f****** matter what we want or what we need because the people don't control the government.

Cristina: Yeah. So they could play this game of what? This price? No, that price.

Jack: They could do this forever because the people have no influence on it. Now, you tell the big companies, look, we're not paying any of you m************ until this f****** stimulus bill goes out. Suddenly they'll agree on $5 trillion overnight.

Cristina: We should do that.

Jack: All the things 100%, I swear to you boycott Google, Amazon and Facebook all at once. Say, until we get the stimulus checks, we don't use any of this. Tell me it doesn't take 15 minutes.

Cristina: Before they do something.

Jack: There's so much. You get a $10,000 check every month for the rest of your life. Just because they're still making a million.

Cristina: Need to do that.

Jack: Yes, that's how it works, man.

Cristina: We just haven't figured that out.

Jack: Yeah, it's. It's. People are not willing, people are ignorant, people are lazy.

Cristina: Dumbest things, just the dumbest things get through. No, the whole sonic thing is still shocking.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. People this, man. We don't know how to use power.

Cristina: No.

Jack: That's why the sit. That's why all these systems form. We can't have unlimited power. There needs to be a slow process. Only when a giant group decides unanimously does change happen instantaneously. And at that point, it should happen instantaneously because everybody wanted it.

Cristina: But then. So with the police thing, is that happening then? Because we all together, we're protesting change.

Jack: Specifically in the places where people are banning together in the large enough numbers, change happened immediately, even when the results were s*****. Think of New York. People overwhelmingly were like the police. So they went ahead and removed a s*** ton of police. They defunded the s*** out of police. Crime went way the f*** up. But you guys wanted it. So this is what it looks like now. You can't complain. You asked for it. Your knee jerk reaction. This is what it looks like. Enjoy that.

Cristina: They had to come up with a solution as well.

Jack: Oh yeah, they're definitely complaining now. But they're not arguing for the government that made it happen. Now they're like, f***, we can't go back on our thing. We got to come up with solutions. So community solutions are starting to happen. So I guess it's got to get bad before it gets good.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah.

Jack: So that's the flip side. Yes, crime will go up, but it will go down once they figure it out.

Cristina: Yeah. And that's the important thing. If you don't want the police to control you or the government to control you or whatever. If you want the freedom, it's gonna get bad.

Jack: Yeah. Until you stat. Because it's a new system. You're making a new system.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Figure out how to work, how it works. If you don't know how it works, s***'s gonna get weird.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it has to because you need to remove the government from the positions of power you want the people to have. But it's problematic we don't know how to use power. We haven't had power. We've been controlled by the government for so long. Instead of the government doing what we want.

Cristina: The government. But they're just people. They're evil people. Did the power turn them evil or did the want for power in the first place make them?

Jack: It doesn't work that way because the lobbyists don't pay. I mean, they do pay individuals, but it doesn't work in such a fashion. The only main individual that lobbyists really, really pay is, like, the President. And, yeah, you pay senators and you pay Congress, but you pay them in a bigger scope because they have multiple individuals trying to pass something. So it's about, well, you need to talk to people. You need to make these decisions. You need to get these people to agree. So you're paying a general collective to make moves.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they need funding to do what they do. So it's not that there's somebody like, I'm an evil scheme guy. Money is gonna fill my pockets.

Cristina: They just need money.

Jack: Also, my job is getting paid.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To run the government collectively. We all got paid by the same guy to vote for the same thing. But I wasn't like, well, he's paying me, he's paying him. We're all being paid, so we can agree. No, you get paid by you. Basically, they're investing in you.

Cristina: They're investing.

Jack: So nobody's out there being evil.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Nobody's like, they're just really doing their ideas and doing what their supporters believe they should be doing. And their supporters happen to have a lot of money. And whoever pays you the most is who you work for. Essentially.

Cristina: Then are the companies evil, schemy people?

Jack: Well, the companies are also not evil, schemy people. The companies are companies. Their job is to do whatever profits.

Cristina: The business, no matter what.

Jack: Cause they're not gonna go out and, like, rob people that would profit them.

Cristina: Facebook.

Jack: Well, Facebook is in trouble.

Cristina: Yes. I guess that's what happens. When it does happen.

Jack: Like Amazon does it the right way. You just gotta do whatever. You have shareholders. You have to please the shareholders. You have business sort of setup that you got to follow. You're a retailer, you own certain businesses that do certain things, and you run those businesses accordingly, and you make money in those ways. But if your business is threatened, then you have to make stances and you have to make moves so that your business is not threatened. And the same thing goes for people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: People have to do what the government says so that they don't get in trouble so they don't go to jail, so that they are. They can be out and vote for the certain rights that they want and do this and do that. So every. Nobody's like unanimously doing anything. Everything is a collective of ideas and things influencing each other piece.

Cristina: But why does it look like there's something wrong with it if it all works so well together?

Jack: Because.

Cristina: Oh, wait, that was about the illusion. The illusion is what makes it feel like it's all wrong when it's not.

Jack: Yes. The illusion that they're trying to portray makes it look f*****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But the illusion means nothing. Yeah, that's everybody trying to claim they have more power than they claim and trying to claim. Oh, no, we're the ones in trouble. You're the ones in control. When in reality you control the wrong thing, but they don't want you to know what you control. That's all them trying to trick you. The system isn't flawed. The people in the system are flawed, but no individual is flawed. Yeah, collectives of bad ideas and bad education are flawed.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's pretty much it. I don't know how the f*** we got here, but that was a fascinating discussion. Although we're running out of time.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: Yeah. So I don't have any idea how we got here, but you know what? Great. Whatever. Anyways, we've had other conversations like this on this show before. Not exactly like this one particularly, but related to politics and sociology and human behavior and government and companies and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So if you like conversations of this type and this nature, you can find more conversations of this nature, which I hope you liked. You can find that on the official website, greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined, review it, please.

Cristina: Yes. And let people who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. Be sure to tell people. Tell people about the show. See, there's a difference. At the beginning of the show, we tell you to kidnap somebody, but at the end we tell you there's certain people who are just gonna listen if you tell them. Yeah, but we need you to get those people who don't want to listen first.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then just tell people who are totally gonna be like, okay, I'll go listen.

Cristina: Yes. And then everyone wins.

Jack: And then everyone wins. We get all sides Yep, this has.

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Jack: Sat patiently watching his co host, the maniacal laughs in the back of his mind begin to get louder and louder. He's screaming in laughter, but he stares blankly at her. She knows very little about what's happening in his mind other than what he's narrating for some given reason.

Cristina: Yeah. Why is he laughing? His mind.

Jack: He's preparing himself with laughter. Yes. The maniacal laughter in the back of his mind gets him ready. It preps him for the show. It brings the inner Wade Wilson fused with the Joker, forward into the limelight. For whatever reason, the light is lime. Could have just been a white spotlight, but it is a lime light.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I mean, I guess in old movies it was limelight, wasn't it? Like, the stage light was this weird, like, off yellow. It was lime colored.

Cristina: Was it lime colored? It was just off yellow. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.