Rambling 115: 2020 Apocalypse Review pt 2

Just Conversation, Politics, Election Fraud, New Year, Celebbration, Coronavirus, Aliens

Finishing our review of the slowest apocalypse ever, 2020.

The duo wrap up their studies of the ancient times of 2020. The good, the bad and the ugly are all wrapped up with a neat bow. As they do so, they remember the days before aliens ruled the world and days before the Mars Space station was a casual hangout for teens. Often referred to as “the good old days.”

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Topics Discussed

  • Police Brutality
  • Police Reform
  • Lebanon Explosion
  • Unhealthy Americans
  • California Wildfires
  • Stronger Covid
  • Election Fraud
  • Aliens

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Just Conversation podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

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Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody. And as always, you pick up the first sharp object by you, and you walk casually towards them. Make sure they see you and the sharp object. And the sharp object. And mumble something to yourself. It doesn't have to be coherent. It just has to under your breath. Make sure they hear you mumbling on your way over, but they can't tell what it is you're saying. Anything. Say the ABCs to yourself. It's fine. On your way over to them. And when you finally get to them, you say, us two, we're gonna f****** listen to the Just Conversation podcast. I promise you, they won't say no.

Cristina: Are they trying to threaten this person or no? Is it supposed to look like they're threatening them without actually threatening them?

Jack: They're alluding to danger, although they're never saying there's danger.

Cristina: Yes. That's very Dennis. Dennis. That's very Dennis.

Jack: Yeah. Anyways, talking about getting all dark on people around you and death and whatnot. Today's episode we're following up on the 2020 recap we're doing. It's Been a Fun Year, the review from last year. So if you haven't heard the first part, be sure to do that. Go back, listen to the first five months of the year when s*** was serious and we just cross over to get f***** area.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where s***'s gonna get f*****. So we had just finished May in our recap, and that's when the shoe dropped hard. Following the death of George Floyd, a unarmed black man at the hands of a white police officer and four other, well, three other cops standing by doing nothing. This got recorded, and it was a very long video of a man begging for his life while slowly fading out of this plane of existence. And when we ended, we were at 6 million coronavirus cases.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: So let's begin on June, June 2nd. Brooklyn PD. It's accused of corruption and abuse of power. Repeatedly. This time, they're caught on video after the protests broke out, after the country broke into protests, after Minneapolis had police try to solve their accusations of police brutality by using police brutality. This spread out to the rest of the country. And everywhere there were protests everywhere. Police also, police were trying to resort to the same measures. You're saying we here are also abusing our power. You're saying we're being brutal. Us, the cops, here to protect you. And as a result of trying to stop these false accusations caught on video, two police SUVs slammed into and drove through a crowd of protesters. Because this is America, and that's how you show them we're not brutal.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. It's not all the police run them over. You run them over.

Jack: Additionally, around this time, where s***'s hitting the fan pretty hard and race wars are essentially breaking out, I remember seeing a video of a guy in a truck who, I guess he had like a Trump flag or something, and he like flipped off some protesters that they pulled out behind them. They drove next to truck, got in front of the truck, slowed down the truck, ripped the guy out of the truck. I think he actually hit somebody with the truck. And then they got to the truck, they pulled the guy out of the truck, and they were on a bridge. They threw that guy off the bridge because that's where we are. I remember showing you that specifically the guy get pulled out of the truck and flung off a bridge. And then somehow he survived, which is way worse than had he died.

Cristina: But he. He hit someone before that too.

Jack: Yes, with the truck.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: He hit somebody with a truck. He already had like Maga flax on flags on his truck. And they just freaked out. A bunch of black people pulled him out, threw him over the bridge.

Cristina: And he lived.

Jack: And he lived. Which is way worse had he died. Great. Fantastic. End of the story. No, he fell off that bridge intervent. So that sucks. So, yeah, this is just day two. June 5th. The Buffalo riot police quit. Buffalo, New York riot police quit in protest of these. In protest of their abuse of power and in defense of some other cops. So your solution to being told you abuse your power is to quit. Which in reality, when that was being debated and discussed, the fact of it was investigations were being opened everywhere to.

Cristina: See that police are really abusing their power.

Jack: Any place that had a lot of accusations because now the country is calling for it. Look into all your cops. So they weren't idiots. They were like, not. We're out.

Cristina: Yeah, it's more about I. I got to do some things I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: They were just definitely like, I think my mom's calling. Yeah, she needs me right now. I can't be at work for a couple of months.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Oh no. The Covid's real now, guys. It hasn't been real until this very moment. But I gotta stay home now, you know, Safety of my family and all. June 6, this is where that other shoe dropping finally hits the ground. It's only been fought, it's been mid air Suspense. This entire time we've been watching it incrementally because the global protests erupt.

Cristina: Now the world, the world, the world is protesting. It leaked brutality.

Jack: Yeah, it leaked out of the country.

Cristina: Yeah, that was pretty amazing.

Jack: It's. It's on some whole other s***. It left the United States and hit everywhere else.

Cristina: Because it's happening everywhere else as well. This problem, this police brutality thing. It's not just the cops here.

Jack: And as this is happening in the rest of the world, the US is leading the movement. So we're always. It began so Minneapolis had the first death, then they had the first protest. Then the protests spread everywhere else. When Minneapolis evolved into rioting against the police, into a mini war, then the rest of the country, the protest spread to the rest of the world. And now all the other places that police tried to solve with more brutality on top of the accusations, now those places are starting to have an uprising against the cops. This is where things got weird for a couple of weeks. It got really complicated in June, but it began in June 6th when this s*** really started happening where the entire country not just protest, but riots. And not just riots, but good guys on both sides, or both good guys on the good side, and two different factions of bad guys, all in some sort of guerrilla warfare happening in major cities all over the country. We got people in New York City, both good police officers and protesters uniting entirely, uniting against corrupt departments supporting abusive behavior. So they're coming together, they're standing. This is a great line that's being drawn right now because we get videos of police officers taking knees with protesters walking hand in hand, marching down the streets. And we have other videos of police officers plowing through people, shooting them, tear gassing them, pulling out lethal weaponry on people, assaulting people who aren't even part of the protests. Like the kids who were just driving out of college. So crazy there's a war happening and you got to pick a side. But s*** kept getting crazy. And this is where we have the curfews getting established throughout the United States. Not even related to the COVID because businesses were closing. But you weren't obligated to stay at home. That was an advisory. Now being outside is illegal.

Cristina: That has to do with the protest.

Jack: That was with the protest. People were being. It was that crazy. In major cities, people were being sent home at a certain time about 8pm and you had to do it.

Cristina: You have to go home to stop you from protesting.

Jack: Stop the protesters and stop the rioting and stop the looting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And stop the dangerous behavior between the cops and the protesters. It got really crazy. And arrests at random and attacks on peaceful protesters. And by riot police. This is done by riot police throughout that whole time. So they just got more vicious after the curfews were put. Basically. Martial law was established in June.

Cristina: Yeah. Is that the same month where we were getting weird videos about what police were doing? Like some of them were dressing up and pretending to be protesters. Some of them were putting. What are those? Bricks. Bricks everywhere.

Jack: Yes, all of that. They were stacking bricks together. They were breaking windows while dressed like protesters and s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All that is the same. Because now they're trying to do their own more. Hey man, you're getting negative attention on us. And this should not you we're gonna get negative attention on. And TIFA was just the racist cops. Just the racist cops trying to frame the protesters and have a reason to be violent against them. But that didn't last long because June 7, footage of off duty officers out of uniform looting and torching properties surface. And that's where we get to see these videos.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And see that when you pull their mask off, it turns out that guy's a f****** officer.

Cristina: Like the ending of Scooby Doo.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You take off the mask. Like what?

Jack: And who found out it was the f****** meddling kids.

Cristina: It was the meddling kids. Whoa.

Jack: Towards the end of June 7, we started getting the videos of police arresting police. I saw some really weird s*** that day. Particularly the cops that broke into a store fully in uniform to beat the crap out of protesters. To then have other cops enter behind them, draw their guns on the original cops to walk in, tell them to put the gun. Because they were about. The cops who went in first were just gonna shoot unarmed people. That was their goal. Then the second wave of cops walked into the store as well. And their. Nope, put your s*** down. And they started arresting each other.

Cristina: That was f****** complicated. Yeah.

Jack: Cops arresting cops. It got really weird. We had cops talking bad about cops. Cops out high ranking cops discharging people. There was a white cop snapping out some innocent protester who had no weapons. Being common everything. And his senior came up and Told him, you're f******. Get the f*** out of here. And that's caught on video. Just this lady walks up. His senior was a woman who just walked up and is like, get out. You're off of it.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: And so we had a lot of that.

Cristina: This is when they talk of no more police or that's a little later.

Jack: This is the month where that conversation. It began early and it started to take form as the month went along. And around the 22nd, we get a. From the CDC and the WHO that the. The band the WHO, CDC and the band, the who. We get told that more than 80% of cases in March might have gone undetected. Because now we find out you don't necessarily show symptoms if you have it.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Because now we're starting to get testing in hospitals and things in Mass, and we're finding out, holy crap. There are many, many, many people who have no symptoms. This has already escaped our control. It is God knows who has it. And that's complicated because as we close the month, we've only pretty much been testing people who have either gone to get tested or gone to the hospital at this point. And we've hit that number globally at 10 million by the end of June.

Cristina: 10 million. Which last month, 6 million.

Jack: Yes. So we roughly doubled up. A little less than doubled up. That's how we end June. But then July comes, a relatively tame month. Things don't really happen.

Cristina: Probably more still talks about what to do with those cops.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Like police reform becomes a new thing. Besides just getting rid of them. How about we just change the system?

Jack: Yeah. Because of the amount of protesting. That became one of the main things we had to do. And the protesting had not stopped. It will not stop. It's kind of still going on right now, 20, 21. It's never stopped. That ball got started and it's still f****** rolling. There's a place that's had a little over, like, five months of protest straight since they began.

Cristina: Good.

Jack: Fair enough. But, yeah, so that's definitely around July. It starts to take place in New York City, particularly, where they start to actually implement some of these things.

Cristina: Actually. They actually did.

Jack: Yeah. They start firing police officers and they start starting with the people who killed George Floyd. They're starting to get punished. But now they cases are opened everywhere and they're flipping over this law. They've brought up the law that allows paperwork to always be hidden from the public relative to cops and junk.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So now that's immediately got moved to the top main court. S***. And now it's being debated whether we should get rid of this because it is definitely allowing abuse of power.

Cristina: Definitely.

Jack: So that's all being discussed. And we come to July 7. US surpasses 3 million infections WHO withdraw. So we're just like, you guys don't know what you're doing. Because we know what we're doing. Like, any help is better than no help.

Cristina: No. We have the vice president. He takes charge.

Jack: He takes charge.

Cristina: He's gonna protect us.

Jack: He is better than the ban.

Cristina: The who. Science knowledge.

Jack: Hey, who knows how much science knowledge? He's probably a closeted scientist. Studied all the things, of course. Who. Who do you trust more to deal with the virus? The vice president or the band? The who. Right. Okay.

Cristina: Fair enough.

Jack: See how that works? You think, like, I guess they mean chill music, but, like, do they know chemistry? And it's like, even if Pence doesn't.

Cristina: Know chemistry, he's got the Space Force on his side.

Jack: He does.

Cristina: They could help.

Jack: He's already sort of science y. Yeah, Space Force. Now Covid, it seems like he's at least staying in the sciences.

Cristina: Such weird jobs.

Jack: The most religious guy any of us know is who got put in charge of science.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Crazy. He's going to pray at it. He's going to pray at it. But July 9, things escalate a little more. And it's because in Florida and in Texas, there's regions that people were catching it the entire time, but there were groups of people who were actually staying at home en masse. And those people started getting into the hospital with COVID What was going on? Well, they sent some teams out there to start investigating and checking out what the h***'s happening, because these are rural places where, like, people weren't going anywhere. A lot of them are seniors, and they're just staying home to be safe. But it turns out the virus went airborne. It mutated, and now there's an airborne strain in the South.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: And that kind of throws a wrench in all the plans, because how do you hide from something that's going to catch you in your house, whether or not you're around people?

Cristina: But it can't just go into your house, can it? It's not like traveling into houses, is it?

Jack: But, like, on its own, you can't leave the inside of your home, even to your own property, because Air.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Someone who has it might have walked by, and then it's just there hanging out.

Jack: And that doesn't help that we're having some of the craziest wind, which is problematic.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: S*** gets weird. So, yeah, now it's airborne. And by. We end July with an airborne virus at 17 million cases global.

Cristina: Whaat.

Jack: What's interesting about this is the numbers are going down. We're not doubling up anymore. The numbers are already huge, so every time we. 0.5, it's still kind of excessive, but the amount it's spreading is still going down. Interesting enough collectively, like, we're no longer double each time, even if way more people have it. We're definitely based on the numbers figuring it out. Even if it looks like there's a bunch of a******* not following rules or whatever.

Cristina: There's enough doing the right thing.

Jack: There's enough doing the right thing. Yeah. And then we enter August. This is a weird one, because s*** gets complicated pretty quickly. So we begin August and immediately with a bang. Yes, with a bang.

Cristina: Hey, like January, sort of.

Jack: Yeah, kind of. Sometimes months start with a bang. And the particular bang here on August 4th was also on August 4th, by the way. Two bangs on the 4th of two different months.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Interesting. Okay, also, side note, every president who doesn't show up to another president's inauguration has John in their name. Just saying. Just a weird fact about life.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's spitting gems. Here's a gem for you. Every president that's ever not gone to the inauguration of another president has been in some manner, shape, or form, had the name John. Had the name John.

Cristina: But there have been Johns who have been there.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: All the ones that didn't go were John. Were John. Okay.

Jack: And that is Donald. Yes, Donald John Trump. I thought it was Junior until I looked this up.

Cristina: How would you think? Why didn't he. Him naming his child Junior wouldn't make sense. You don't name your child Junior if you're a Junior Canopy.

Jack: The second third would be Junior. The third. There you go.

Cristina: Yeah, but his name is Junior.

Jack: His first name.

Cristina: No, it's Donald Junior, Isn't it? Don Junior, they always call him. Yeah, but is Donald junior?

Jack: Yeah, they don't have to say the third, but he would be. Anyways. Not the point. So the Beirut explosion in Lebanon, that.

Cristina: Was in August 4th.

Jack: Yes, on August 4th. The Beirut explosion in Lebanon, which was two consecutive explosions. One was relatively tame, which got all the cameras out. People started looking and whatever. And then the second one went off, which played a little like a nuke.

Cristina: It looks like, when you see it.

Jack: Yeah. Mushroom cloud and everything.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And it cleared out a giant. It destroyed Beirut root. It got Wrecked pretty badly and killed over 190 people and injured more than 6,000. Windows for miles broken, popped no more windows. Buildings in the immediate vicinity.

Cristina: No more buildings.

Jack: No more buildings. They cease to exist. They have been removed from this universe.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: F****** nuts. And due to. It's due to unsecure tons. Tons. Almost 3,000 tons of ammonium nitrogen stored in hangars in the city's port.

Cristina: Yep. That they totally forgot about or something. Yeah.

Jack: They were like, it's fine here. Nobody said s*** for the last couple of years. It's totally fine. Ignored it. And boom. Then boom. S*** got real. That's how we started the year. A nuke style catastrophe.

Cristina: That was a pretty crazy explosion. Just to watch it. And then all the conspiracies about that and like was it a nuke or was it a bomb from somewhere else or what is. You know. No one wanted to believe what it was.

Jack: Nobody wanted to believe it was what it was. Then August 12th, we find out that severe obesity increases mortality risk from COVID which explains why it spreads like wildfire in the United States. Predominantly in major cities where the unhealthy McDonald's lovin, KFC loving, obese, diabetic, cancerous heart disease, having high blood pressure, having way too much sugar, having no exercise and I'm not gonna eat anything minorly green people live. And so it becomes way apparent why we're doing way worse than the rest of the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And it's because we're unhealthy as f***. And it predominantly kills unhealthy people. It began on the elderly. That was how it began.

Cristina: Oh yeah. We didn't mention that. But yes.

Jack: But then as many mutations kept happening, it shifted and it landed on fat people. Fat people. People with. Because it took a while to get to fat people though. It went through smokers. There's a strain that attacks smokers. But there's a strain that if you're a smoker, you're less likely to get what. That's a f******. There was a strain that gives you heart problems. There's one that only affects you if you have heart problems.

Cristina: There was one that was attacking children.

Jack: There was one that was attacking children. There was one that was particularly dangerous for diabetics. So many different strains just mutates any f****** chance it gets. It's f****** crazy. But whatever. So we find that out and then on the 17th, COVID 19, now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. somehow we've still managed to out drive Covid. Right. Is that the other what are the other two?

Cristina: I like. The other one is, like, accidentally falling into something, like something really retarded.

Jack: 5 Ways to Die Us. Oh, s***. So heart disease, then cancer, then Covid.

Cristina: I thought accidents.

Jack: I thought accidents were number one, but it's number three. Yeah, I thought accidents, but I guess I'm wrong. So heart disease, then cancer, and now Covid. Then Covid. Interesting. Covid's a strong runner.

Cristina: I really thought accidents was gonna be up there. It is up there, but it's not.

Jack: It's up there. Not worse than Covid. We're not out here trying to fight heart disease with everything we've got. We're not out here trying to fight cancer with everything we've got. We definitely came up with an immediate vaccine for Covid, though. Rich people got threatened. That's why when rich people get scared, they. They do whatever the f*** they need to. Money goes into everything. But if it's like they're making fat people decisions, they're. Of course you're gonna have heart problems.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But you can educate them. No, no, no. That wastes my money. But now there's a plague that might get to you. Oh, no. That requires my money. Yeah, so that's how that works. So, yeah, Covid becomes the third leading cause, right behind cancer and heart disease. And then on the 19th, Trump was asked about QAnon at a press conference. QAnon? The people who brought you Epstein's Island?

Cristina: Yes. The people who are trying to protect the world from pedophiles. Evil predo. Pedophile.

Jack: Reptilian, Illuminati. Pedophiles who drink children blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is conflicting because. Are they raping the kids or are they harvesting the kids?

Cristina: I think they're doing both.

Jack: They're raping them and to scare them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then you take their blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Oh, so they're vampires.

Cristina: Yes, they're vampires.

Jack: They break in.

Cristina: They're shape shifting vampires. Blood sucking. Yeah, they're vampires.

Jack: Yeah. Kind of fits. Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But when asked about it and whether he supports them, and they explain that these are crazy conspiracy theorists. Not to say they're actually crazy. This is what the media said. I think these people do know what they're talking about to some degree. They're kind of crazy. Don't get me wrong. They're out of f****** minds. But they're not wrong. They're misguided. They are too passionate about something they've not looked deep in enough to like. They haven't done the work.

Cristina: They're disconnecting things they're being told by.

Jack: Some omniscient other douchebag.

Cristina: What's going on?

Jack: What's going on? They're like, well, let's go. Let's do fear. F****** Q is good. He knows the truth. And it's like, okay, look, some of this stuff is true, but you guys are idiots about your approach, and you're not well informed on how it's true. You're just assuming how it's true.

Cristina: Yes. And then I saw videos of a lady who went to a store where the masks were and she destroyed it for QAnon. She destroyed the mask display.

Jack: Makes sense.

Cristina: Masks are killing us.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, They've laced our masks with things that make us stupid or something.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: And so, yeah, when told about this, Trump was like, I don't know. I don't even know how to make an impression. I don't know. I don't know much about the movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate, but I don't know much about the movement.

Cristina: I don't. He sounds evil. He sounds like Batman.

Jack: Hey, he does sound like Batman.

Cristina: I'm not sure.

Jack: And then on August 28th, first known case of COVID re infection reported in the US a person who was cleared and seems to have not have it anymore now has it again, which means you don't stay immune for long.

Cristina: So then what about all these vaccine things? Will they help out if you can just get it again or. It's like the flu, you get it every year.

Jack: Well, assuming that it doesn't work anywhere near as powerful as that, and that your immunity fades after a couple of months, just two or three as it seems. That's really a temporary measure. The goal would be have enough supply. Vaccinate your entire population. The virus has nowhere to go. Isolate those that still have it, vaccinate them, eradicate it. Like smallpox.

Cristina: Will never be that organized.

Jack: We've done it before.

Cristina: Okay, like smallpox.

Jack: Just a matter of doing it right.

Cristina: Until there were ladies who decided their children doesn't need the smallpox vaccine.

Jack: And then it spread all over again, so. Cuz.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: We did it because. Essential oils. Why not? It's those people. Anyways, we close this month off with 25 million cases. Still slowing down. Now we're what, less than one third up? It's way less than before. Numbers are still coming down. But here's what's funny. Everywhere else in the world, they're slowing down.

Cristina: In the US it's growing.

Jack: Most of that increase is just us. That's where it starts to get really complicated. Because us continues to grow exponentially while other places are successfully lowering in town. Enter September. We're long past the January, February, March inferno that Australia was dealing with. It was horrendous. It was awful. But we got through it. We got rid of it. They're gone. We're free. You guys get to rest. It's finally done. You guys can go back home. All you firefighters from California that came to help you get to go home. You Australian firefighters who made it through, you're good. Oh my God, there's a fire in California. We gotta go home to fight a fire also. You Australians, come with us. We need you. Enter the actual worst fire in the planet's history.

Cristina: The California fire.

Jack: Yes. The fast moving bear fire, which was propelled by apparently lightning strikes and 45 mile an hour winds that spread that b**** the f*** out in an hour. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That was f****** crazy. Burned a hillside by the Bidwell Bar Bridge. The fire tore through 230,000 acres in one 24 hour period. That s*** is not f****** around. That wind was not f****** around. Nevertheless, that wind was followed by a giant cool chill.

Cristina: Then other wildfires spread across California, reaching Oregon and Washington.

Jack: Yes, the craziest part about these are that they weren't even lightning strikes or anything of that nature. It was literal embers. Giant. The winds were so strong they carried over still lit embers that were giant chunks enough to not go out on their travel across state lines.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Land in a different forest and ignite that s***. What?

Cristina: What?

Jack: That's crazy. That's the one that happened in Washington. Yeah, it just flew across from California, landed there and boom, now you're on fire too. So the f****** planets burning at this point. United States is on fire. One of the largest fire or the largest fire in history. We're talking we just lost the Amazon and Australia and somehow. Yeah, let it, let it all burn. All of it. God's like I said once, I wouldn't drown the world. And so he's fair setting it on fire.

Cristina: Because he didn't promise that.

Jack: Okay, yeah, he didn't promise no fire. That was his favorite to start with. Think about it. Saddam and Gomorrah drop that f****** fire from the sky. F*** these people. That's how you do it. Extinguish m************. But yeah, so that's how the f*** that went. And collectively it destroyed so many f****** homes and burned through at least 2.5 million acres in California.

Cristina: Crazy.

Jack: Yep.

Cristina: One of those fires I don't know if it was during that month or later on where the. They were trying to do a child's rebuke. A baby sex reveal party thing.

Jack: Yeah, yeah. Gender reveal.

Cristina: Gender reveal, that's the word.

Jack: But it's wrong. It's. Sex reveal is the right one.

Cristina: Oh, well. Anyway. And that started a fire.

Jack: Yeah. Cuz white people in fireworks America. Yeah, that's what happens. I hope they enjoy jail.

Cristina: Like you know what's happening in California. And then you do that. Though that should be illegal, shouldn't it?

Jack: I think it is illegal.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. You're expecting too much from people who don't think a lot. They should know more. Yes, Most people should know more. Most people don't know more. People are inherently stupid. Those people are a prime example of white privilege.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Moving on. September 23rd, a new, more contagious strain of COVID is discovered. Because that's how the story goes.

Cristina: Yes, yes.

Jack: Before we had airborne. Now the previous original one that arrived has a strain which can fight most of the things in your immune system. Now you're more likely to catch it.

Cristina: Nice.

Jack: And that's to say the airborne strain is now popping up in a lot more places. It's either moving because people are traveling with it, or other strains are evolving to be airborne as well.

Cristina: Yeah, that could be awesome.

Jack: Which is problematic because vaccines come around. Do they work on all the strains?

Cristina: That is the big question that we gotta find out.

Jack: Big question. And then the global COVID deaths surpass 1 million. We have 1 million deaths of COVID landing the end of September with a total number of cases reported at 33 million. A million deaths, though still slowing down gradually. More and more, it's just crawling to a halt. Then we get to October.

Cristina: The first hornet nest is discovered in America. And it was destroyed. It was in Washington state.

Jack: Yes, yes.

Cristina: The Nest had 800 workers and nearly 200 queens were produced from that single nest.

Jack: And there's a soon to be more.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And we're just on the hunt for them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. So that's October for you. We have on October 2nd, Trump and the first lady test positive for COVID 19 and Trump enters the hospital. On October 5th, Trump leaves the hospital but continues receiving treatment. By October 8th, the White House had a Covid outbreak that reached 34 staff members.

Cristina: Ridiculous. Did he do that? I think he did that.

Jack: He just went back home and spread it to everybody. So as we are reaching the end of October, the flooding that was happening earlier in the year hasn't stopped. Yet.

Cristina: But flooding from India and Nepal.

Jack: Yeah. And as that's finally coming to a close, or not coming to close, but falling lower than it was before, people start calculating the destruction which got excessive because the river resulted in the death of. The river's flooding resulted in the death of 189 people and left over 4 million homeless in India and Nepal, all by the end of October. They were living a separate kind of h*** on top of the fact that they were dealing with the virus in that whole time.

Cristina: 4 million homeless.

Jack: Ah, what End of times. And then we end October with a total infection count of 45 million. But if you notice, that was a.

Cristina: Little bit of a jump there from 33 to 45.

Jack: Now we're over 1/4 gain when we were only just a little. I guess we've been doing about 1/4 for a while now. Okay, fair enough. But we go into November then getting. Getting close to the end here, the end of days, and we enter November and, you know, we have a crazy presidential campaigning and debating and stuff. And then finally on November 3rd is.

Cristina: Oh, before we talk about the elections, I do want to mention a little bit about the Deb. Just one thing. My favorite thing that I probably already talked about, but come on, come on. Trump talks about Biden's plans to replace the windows. No, to destroy buildings and then rebuild them to make little windows.

Jack: Tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows.

Jack: He wants have all the buildings with tiny windows.

Cristina: Tiny windows. Yep. He wants to destroy all of them, replace them just with tinier windows. That's the evil thing.

Jack: Also, Pence became Lord of the Flies.

Cristina: Yes. That was a huge thing, too. That fly was a star in those debates.

Jack: Yes. People love it. He's the most celebrity ever existed.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: It's the most famous. The only thing more famous than Trump is that fly.

Cristina: Yes. No. November 3rd, the election day happens, and.

Jack: It'S an excruciating day with battles and swords and guns and tanks rolling on the street, missiles dropped.

Cristina: The date like, it lasted three days, four days.

Jack: Well, people were waiting to see how the count happens, which didn't end because many, many more votes way under prepared. November 4th, Trump, he claims that the results are bullshit. That because he ended, obviously. Okay, so the process goes that you begin counting the first ballots that were walking and then you count the ballots that were mailed in. This applies this way to most states. Trump almost exclusively told his people to vote through ballots in person.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: While Biden told everybody to stay f****** home and vote from their house. So the ones that are counted first.

Cristina: Are Trump's are Trump's votes. So his numbers get higher.

Jack: So his numbers get higher. Exactly. They have to be higher because you told everybody to vote in person and the states vote in person. Trump's original goal was to have himself declared president by the end of the first day, to completely exclude any mail in balance. But he found that incredibly difficult because it's illegal and you're gonna go to jail if you do that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So that plan got flushed down the toilet, and then propaganda had to come into play, which is where he comes in and tells people that it's bullshit that I'm losing because I was winning yesterday. Yes, but you should have told people to vote by mail, because anybody who was like, I'm not voting by mail. It's crooked, but was too lazy to come in is a vote you lost.

Cristina: And he wants them to recount the.

Jack: Votes and stuff in many, many places that recounted by their own Republicans.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And turned out it wasn't fraud.

Cristina: And also, he has this crazy conspiracy that counting votes turn you evil, which I don't understand. Like, if they're turning you evil, why would you trust the next people to count the votes if the counting's gonna turn those people evil?

Jack: What's fascinating is that the exact same process took place in the previous election.

Cristina: Well, they were all evil. Yeah.

Jack: Because it worked in his favor. He was cool with it.

Cristina: Yes. Once it wasn't. Yeah.

Jack: And that's how that goes. So that's crazy. That happens for a while. And we. We get in the same day that the fourth, where he's over here like, no, this is all bullshit. I secretly won, and they're trying to steal it from me. The United States also reports that the daily coronavirus cases have surpassed a hundred thousand in the country collectively. So we're getting 100,000 cases daily in the country.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And so eventually, Thanksgiving is cancelled.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people can't go anywhere. You're not allowed to have Thanksgiving. It's canceled. No more. Thanksgiving is legal. But nobody listens and goes and gathers anyways in mass. Many, many, many, many, many people gather in mass. And slowly but surely, s*** gets out of hand and we close the month. With Trump continuing to reject the election results, of course, unendingly, and just claiming it's all fraud. And November closes with a count of 62 million infections global.

Cristina: That's. How much more than 45 is that getting?

Jack: We're getting close to doubling up. All right, this is one. It's plus one half. So we're over 25% now. Now we're doing plus half. Yeah. So we're. That. That's entirely due that jump. That's Thanksgiving right there.

Cristina: That's Thanksgiving.

Jack: People are f****** idiots.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And then finally, we hit December, where things get kind of weird. So, December 9, in his bid to overturn the election, the. A bunch of documents and crap are rushed over to the Supreme Court to try to overthrow the decision of the voting and whatever. But it's all rejected. Some of it justly, some of it unjustly. Ironically enough, at some point, they literally stop looking at the cases coming in. And I'm sorry, but it's your job.

Cristina: To look at that.

Jack: To look at the cases coming in.

Cristina: That's your only job.

Jack: That's your only job. You supposed to look at cases. Now you're starting to look crooked because you're just preemptively deciding it's a lie. And look, it doesn't matter if a million of them were. If the millionth and one is true.

Cristina: We need to know.

Jack: We need to know. So you better be looking at all these f****** cases, not deciding. I'm tired of looking at these cases.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He could propose a billion of them, and you look through every single f****** one. That's why you're there. You're not gonna do your job then leave your f****** post and let somebody who's gonna go do it be there because you're clearly not getting the point.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's problematic in this time. Videos of people taking ballots from under tables showed up. Some of them were disproved, some of them were proved. Some of them were disproved as fraudulent because the containers were right. They were just under a table, and they keep them stored. But the behavior that surrounded the circumstance was particularly weird, in which everybody was told to. They were done, and then these people brought more ballots without supervision and continued to do everything. Now, in the video that shows this particular incident, you see the containers, right? The way they're counting looks right. Everything seems to be right, with the exception that only three people were left in the building, and the reporters and the vote and the poll watchers were all gone. They thought counting was over because the people said, we're not gonna count anymore. You could stay, but we're not gonna count. And everybody left. And then they kept counting without supervision. Now, on camera, we can't see them screening these themselves, but there's nothing really stopping us from missing how they're doing it effectively in front of a camera. That's really weird that they would continue to count after all supervision is gone.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's a very strange thing. That is one of I believe three identical videos of the sort. Most of the accused frauds are irrational things that a normal person can just debunk themselves. Including the one that there were a lot of ballots kept or lost by the post office. Which is stupid because if that was the case, over 80% of all ballot votes were for Biden because he told people to vote by ballot and Trump told his not to. So if there were votes missing, which I don't believe that there was a giant landslide difference between their voting count. You're telling me that Biden won by more. If they were missing. That doesn't really fit. I do think it was way closer. If there was fraud, it wasn't significant enough to make change. And if there was, it would be in favor of Biden. Which is weird argument to have.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That the fraud, the poster service failed us inside. You mean the people who were bringing in the left votes. What a weird argument to have.

Cristina: You need an argument though.

Jack: You need an argument. I guess it doesn't work though. It's very, very not thought out. Not to say I do believe there's fraud. There's always fraud. There's never not fraud in an election. But that fraud isn't this crazy thing that they think it's. If there's fraud, it's way more intricate and the normal person wouldn't understand how complicated the systems that led to successfully committing fraud are. That's why the mass who are pretending they have the capacity to understand what informed individuals who strategically planned in privacy how to execute fraudulent tasks in secrecy legally so that it's all through the books except getting caught. That's the only time it becomes illegal. So it's all by the books. You're not supposed to understand. If you believe you understand. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is no exception to that rule. You bought into a conspiracy theory. There is fraud. No question. And I'm sure because of how bad the system hates Trump.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That there is strategic.

Cristina: They're just the tide of him.

Jack: Yeah. I'm so sure it was planned to get him out. I'm also sure it was done by means that would be too complicated. If it was illegal. It's too complicated for you to understand how it's illegal.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Whatever you think you figured out is a lie. You're an idiot. You just believe in some bullshit. And if it wasn't done illegally, it was orchestrated legally with the help of many people, many lobbyists, many people with money and Deepak as trying to get a madman losing the money out of office.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So regardless, I'm on the side of that didn't happen. It wasn't legal by any means. I do believe illegal fraud happened, but it's not what other people think happened. Would Trump have won? I'm not sure. I feel like he's created and he's generated enough hate.

Cristina: It's really hard to tell that.

Jack: Yeah, I think it would have been close anyways. I don't think there's a landslide in Biden's favor. I don't think that's right. I think it was pretty close. But whatever people think is the fraud your fault, if it could stay on the Internet, clearly it wasn't well executed. You're just falling down rabbit holes. That's all it is. And if you're falling down rabbit holes, I highly recommend you educate yourself because you are not the most informed individual. It is important to get factual information.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And in December 14, finally, the electoral College, which are the most corrupt part of the entire election process because. Corruption, period. Their concept is corrupt. They finally choose Joe Biden as president. They affirm he is the president elect for a fact.

Cristina: That's the end of that until. What is it the end of June or something? Is it next up?

Jack: No, it's January.

Cristina: Oh, January.

Jack: January 20th.

Cristina: 20Th. Okay. And then in December, what everyone's been waiting for aliens. That's what everyone before December came predicted. It would be aliens. And it was aliens. We're told that aliens are real.

Jack: Aliens are real. And they have been real.

Cristina: They have been real. And it was from a former Israel space security chief called Haim Eshed. I think that's how you pronounce it. He said that the Galactic Federation has been waiting for us to reach the stage where we will understand what space and spaceships are, which I feel like we're there, but whatever. They're still waiting. But they don't think we're ready for them. Not yet. So there must be something about spaceship technology that we haven't figured out. I guess we can't maybe warp speed.

Jack: No, man. We can't even, like, reach our moon quickly. Yeah. Definitely has to be some speed threshold because we're just not just bound to our planet, but we're so bound to our planet, it's theoretical, that we can get to Mars. That's a planet over. We haven't figured it out.

Cristina: It's theoretical. Figured it figured out. Then maybe they'll be like, hey, we're.

Jack: Here, I think, truly exploring Our star system is where they show up, which is nowhere near. I think that's the moment that they show themselves, when we have the ability to easily traverse space. And not like it's taking us mad years to cross space, but, like, we can. Hey, I'm going on vacation for the weekend. I'm headed to Mars.

Cristina: That would be awesome. Well, the aliens are curious about us and are seeking to understand the fabric of the universe. The aliens are scientists. I guess that's.

Jack: That's the only way that would happen.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. Also, they have an underground base in Mars where American astronauts and aliens are hanging out.

Jack: So we've already been to Mars.

Cristina: Yep. I guess we. Yes. So there's some other space technology that we haven't figured out since we're already in Mars. I guess.

Jack: See, I was on board with this guy, and then you say that part, and I'm like.

Cristina: Why would this guy say that?

Jack: He ruined it. He ruined the illusion.

Cristina: Well, the U.S. government and the aliens signed a contract so that they could do experiments here. So I guess they agree with the aliens abducting us and all those stories.

Jack: I mean, I doubt they're abducting us.

Cristina: And also, President Donald Trump knows about it, and he's been. He's been wanting to let us know, but has been asked not to do it, not to tell us because of mass hysteria. And I guess that's good enough for him. He's like, yeah, I won't.

Jack: I'm super sure he doesn't know, because that's the biggest lie. If he knew, we'd all know.

Cristina: He'd be hinting to it.

Jack: He wouldn't even be hinting to it. He would flat out just tell us, Adam. Sheer amazement.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He would be like, holy f***, people. Aliens.

Cristina: Yep. I'm the best president. I let you know. Aliens.

Jack: You wouldn't have gotten this from Obama.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah. And that's pretty much it. That we know about the aliens. It's just that they're waiting for us to learn about space and spaceships, even though we have the technology to be on Mars already and have a space station there already. I guess.

Jack: Yeah, apparently.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: And people trolling, decided it would be funny to put monoliths everywhere, everywhere and make them disappear.

Cristina: Monoliths all over the place.

Jack: Put in, people, find them, take them down. Then people like, whoa, where to go, bro?

Cristina: Yeah. And they thought that was aliens, but no way. I saw one that was made out of gingerbread.

Jack: That's fantastic. And the same one that came from one place showed up in the other was identical. Yeah, and then they found out, oh, we can remove it.

Cristina: We are the aliens.

Jack: We are the aliens. We're being trolled by an artist. I forgot the artist's name. But yeah, it was an artist Rendi, not a rendition. It was just a performance art thing. And so also in December, vaccines, the quickest round of vaccine development in history has taken place because rich people are scared to die. So they funded anything I'm promising you. Not only is it already likely that we have the cure to AIDS and cancer and like dying, but like if we don't, rich people can fund the f*** out of it and like get it done overnight. Like realistically, it would be a breeze. There's just no motivation. Yeah, you need cancer because you make money off of the medication for cancer. But if a plague of cancer was ravaging that couldn't be cured and it's exclusively killing rich people, tomorrow you'd have the solution to that problem. Tomorrow it would be done tomorrow.

Cristina: And then we saw a bunch of videos of doctors who were getting the vaccine but weren't really getting.

Jack: Oh yeah, the vaccine was already approved and people were taking it on TV to promote that it's healthy and safe. And the doctors that made the vaccine weren't really getting it. Those needles weren't piercing their skin or anything.

Cristina: Yep. Suspicious.

Jack: Very.

Cristina: What is it?

Jack: Very, very. That includes the doctors that made it and Nancy Pelosi.

Cristina: What? How dare she.

Jack: Who also faked getting a f****** vaccine. Additionally, Christmas was cancelled and as a result everybody went to their families houses anyways and prepare for this next explosive wave.

Cristina: Also Santa Claus, they, they let everyone know that Santa Claus doesn't have to worry about COVID because he's immune. Oh yeah, he's immune to Covid.

Jack: Yeah, because he's the God of the elves or something. Is that what he is? He's the God of the elves, Right? Some s*** like that. Yeah. So that's pretty much the year we end December with a total of 80 million global cases. So that's fun.

Cristina: That's fun.

Jack: It's always exciting ending the year on a high note. Get it? High note. But yeah. Quick summary out of. Due to climate change, there were 41 total disasters around the world. Around the world. Of which 8, 18 were in the US. This includes wildfires, hurricanes, typhoons. Five storms made landfall in Louisiana this hurricane season. Yep.

Cristina: Breaking the state record for the most strikes in a single season.

Jack: Yes, there were 30 main storms and.

Cristina: Three of the four fires in California were the biggest they ever Had.

Jack: Yep. And pollution decline in major cities. But it was short lived because eventually we got bored and came back up.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. It didn't really matter. The driving less and flying less helped a little for a little while, but.

Jack: But it is what it is. That's how we. That was. That was 2020. That was we. And we're all still here. The work. The world didn't end.

Cristina: It got better. The future's now. We have space travel, a base in Mars.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Last episode you said we do we already go to Mars actually. So this makes sense. That guy was telling the truth.

Jack: Yeah, I guess he was always right. Yeah, he was just revealing secrets that he shouldn't have revealed at that time. And now he's gonna get Epstein'd by other people. But that's cool.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because he's talking. He's talking too much. They know he can't be trusted. Yeah. That's a 2020 right there for you.

Cristina: Whoa.

Jack: An exciting year.

Cristina: See what 2021 brings.

Jack: That being said, things that didn't even get mentioned on list is the fact that police were in fact removed en masse from New York City. Eventually that led to a mass spike in crime. And a couple of other cities also tried the same thing. Crime rates over the roof, specifically gun related assaults and murders skyrocketed. We had many civil wars all over the country.

Cristina: We destroyed statues.

Jack: Yes. We knocked down statues in the name of civil rights, which was just the government's way to distract us from the fact that there were civil rights problems happening. And by redirecting everybody's focus towards the statues. People feel like they accomplish things if they agree to remove statues and don't really have to change the police forces. Which seems to be exactly what's happening now that after the statues became the focus, Police department stopped being disbanded.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So pretty much more of the same in that angle. Companies all lined with somebody left or right. Somebody picked the side, whatever. Everybody flocked like crazy to. What the f*** is it called? The Parlor. To the Parlor app. Because Twitter and Facebook are shills.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah, pretty much. 2020.

Cristina: 2020.

Jack: So yeah, this was the review. The just conversation. Rambling review.

Cristina: Yes. So Happy New Year's. Although I said it last episode, so I can't say it now.

Jack: I like how that sounds. Rambling review. That was the rambling review of 2020.

Cristina: Yes. That's how we start off the year.

Jack: Yeah. That's how. That's how we got here, man. That was just the history of how the we got here.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Anyways, I Hope you guys made it with us. I hope you guys are here with us, alive and good and well. If you want to hear the first part of this episode or any other episodes where we can talk conspiracies of COVID and government, you can find the show on the official website@greythoughts.info or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @JustConvopod.

Jack: Yes, and remember to subscribe and rate the show. And if you feel so inclined, review.

Cristina: It and let someone who might like the show know about it.

Jack: Yes, word of mouth. Very powerful. Tell people. Did you forget what happened this year? Was this year very boring to you? Very tame, mellow and repetitive. Did you miss most of the other things? Is that rock you were under way too heavy for you to look out of? Under. Well, here's a show for you. And then you show them this episode.

Cristina: In the first part, you tell them all through telepathy, which is now a thing.

Jack: Which is now a thing. You don't have to go there in person. You just send them a message. We're in the year 2021. We're so in the future. What?

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. By who do I think is stronger than Shaggy? What's his name?

Jack: Who? God?

Cristina: No. No. Not even Goku? Not Goku.

Jack: Superman?

Cristina: Chuck Norris.

Jack: You think Chuck Norris could be f****** Shaggy?

Cristina: Shaggy for sure.

Jack: Of all people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: He can do anything.

Jack: So can Shaggy, who's only using 1% of his power all times relative to anybody.

Cristina: We've never seen him do anything besides beat people up. I've never heard about any stories of him making things or any type of godlike powers that Sheik Norris has.

Jack: Here's the thing. Shaggy could beat up somebody like Chuck Norris using only 1% of his power.

Cristina: That's all he has because he hasn't.

Jack: Used the other 99 of his power. That's what you're missing here. With 1%, he can take down gods. Yeah, what does 2% look like? But he doesn't, because he doesn't need to. He could already beat God, and he could beat the. Beat Goku, and he could beat Chuck Norris.

Cristina: But Chuck Norris can do anything.

Jack: So can Dr. Manhattan and Dr. Manhattan get smacked down by Shaggy?

Cristina: Yes. But no. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor, and Published by GreatThoughts.in Fox, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 113: Santa and Friends

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What’s the truth behind Christmas and Santa Claus? A Christmas Special unpacking Santa Claus and his known associates, in a Christmas Deep Dive filled with criminal syndicates and elaborate heists!

Story:
With Christmas closing in, the clone duo have little time to act in their attempt to slow down the annual child trafficking wave that usually sweeps the Earth. One culprit comes to mind when wanting to investigate a global crime wave on Christmas Day… Saint Nicholas. A well known global traveler. But in digging deep into the history of this man and his corrupt past, the truth about this crime wave and how it’s done is more than either of our heroes could have ever seen coming. The people involved and the atrocious acts committed will be something they’ll never be able to forget. Find out what on this episode of Just Conversation.

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  • How to Become A Saint in 3 Easy Steps
  • Saint Breastfeed
  • Eating Children
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  • Qanon

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Jack: Who is Santa Claus and are the stories about him true? Is he a magical man? Or is there more going on behind the true story of Santa Claus? Find out all that and more coming up on this episode of Just Conversation.

Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes, and this show is most enjoyable with the listening partner. So be sure to go find somebody and bring them in nice and close and force them. You always force them. That's our theme. We ask you to find somebody and make them listen to this show against their will.

Cristina: No, we don't.

Jack: I do.

Cristina: You do? Yes. The show where you force people to force people.

Jack: No, I force people to force people. Otherwise their children are in danger.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, yes. I forgot that part too.

Jack: Yes. That's how this goes. So make sure you get somebody to listen. It's a family friendly show. No, it's not.

Cristina: No, it's not.

Jack: No, it's not.

Cristina: It doesn't matter because then they'll get amnesia.

Jack: Yeah, they get them. See, all of this work doesn't matter. Yeah, even the people who were kidnapped, they don't know were kidnapped.

Cristina: Yeah, they'll forget.

Jack: Yeah, all of it. It works itself out. It's kind of a solid plan. There's no victim here. Except the people who don't force other.

Cristina: People and the victim who end up at the hospital finding out that they're our enemy because they end up with cancer.

Jack: Fair enough. Fair enough.

Cristina: So that's two people.

Jack: Only if, I guess only the ones that get cancer. But they were already our enemies. I guess it's really a tactical war move, if anything.

Cristina: Yes. One of those kids that get killed sadly by you. Christmas. You know what that day is for? Celebrating Jesus's birthday. No, it's not.

Jack: Nobody does that. No.

Cristina: It's Santa Claus's birthday.

Jack: Is it Saint Old Saint Nicholas, Old.

Cristina: Saint Nick and Santa Claus are two different people.

Jack: Who's Santa Claus?

Cristina: He's a fictional version of St. Nicholas. But St. Nicholas is a man. You met him. He was a man. Yeah, I met him.

Jack: That's cool.

Cristina: Yeah. He was telling me that he hunts demons. Did you know that? He's a demon hunter.

Jack: I mean, he was a saint and weren't they demon hunters. Thus exorcisms, I guess.

Cristina: But he found demons. I didn't know about that.

Jack: Are the elves enslaved demons?

Cristina: Huh? I don't know. I don't. We gotta look up what elves are. Really? Because they're. They're some type of creature.

Jack: Like what's happening up there, man?

Cristina: With the elves and the reindeers and.

Jack: Talking like snowmen and things. There's. There's weird s*** going on. He lives with like monsters.

Cristina: He's a demon hunter, like I was saying. And I learned about few of his stories from him. Do you know any of his demon hunting stories?

Jack: No. This is the first time I ever heard about it. I always suspected there was something weird and off about a bunch of elves and that they serve this guy. But he's not like God. Unless he is some sort of demigod, which was also a theory as well. He might have been some sort of demigod this entire time.

Cristina: Yes. Maybe all the saints are demigods now.

Jack: Interesting. I actually was thinking Santa Claus this whole time. You were talking St. Nick.

Cristina: Yeah, St. Nick. Because he's the real magic man. Santa is just a fictional cartoon.

Jack: Fair enough. Okay, so tell me about his demon hunting.

Cristina: Okay, okay. One time he banished a demon from a tree by threatening it with an axe.

Jack: Man, we stumble on this all the time where it's just like a guy doing normal person killing things. There's nothing. There's nothing demon killy about an axe. It's just like how you'd kill a person.

Cristina: Oh yeah. Yes. Or maybe he was actually planning on chopping that tree, but someone saw it and was like, no, he's not just chopping down that tree.

Jack: There must be a demon in there.

Cristina: Gotta be a demon in there. Yes.

Jack: Or maybe there was a guy inside on the tree. There was a guy on the tree and he's like, I'm gonna knock this tree down. Get down. And then.

Cristina: It was a leprechaun.

Jack: It was a leprechaun in the tree?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: I don't know. No. Oh, well, maybe that's how he got the elves. He made a deal with the leprechaun.

Jack: What?

Cristina: He. Our elves and leprechauns from the same place?

Jack: I think you're being. I think that's racism what you just did right there.

Cristina: But they're from the same place.

Jack: Oopsie. Did I just do a racist? Like Peter? Like Peter did. Oopsie. Did I just do a racism.

Cristina: Irish creatures though, for sure. No, maybe not elves.

Jack: Why would an elf be a con?

Cristina: Not Be an.

Jack: You're just. Here's. Here's. Look, here's where it's f****** up the name we give. What's in the north is elf. But that's wrong because elves are usually taller than people.

Cristina: Elves are usually.

Jack: Elvens are way taller than people. On average. They're not shorter.

Cristina: Elvens are something else. I don't know what Elvens are. There are elves.

Jack: No, those are elves.

Cristina: So there's two names for this creature.

Jack: No, you Elven people are elves.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: And whatever the f*** is up there is closer to a leprechaun than it is to an elf. It's not an elf. It's not associated with an elf. It doesn't have weird pointy ears. It doesn't have white hair. It's not tall. The only thing it shares in common, it's magic.

Cristina: And if that's magical, at least.

Jack: Yes. And if that's the argument here, then that's to say that leprechauns are just. I mean, elves are just midgets. They're not. They're not like a race of tiny people. They're midgets because it's like the difference between a tall human and a short human. Because if they're all just elves. Santa Claus is hoarded all the tiny elves. Yeah, and made a workshop. He enslaved a bunch of tiny elves.

Cristina: Well, they happily serve him.

Jack: What winner of a war said we enslaved people?

Cristina: Ah, yes. Are they demons, though? Because he would enslave demons.

Jack: Owls aren't demons. Elves are magical creatures.

Cristina: Oh, well, maybe he's like a Sam and Dean demon hunting, where they're killing more than just demonstration. And Santa's doing the same thing. He's dealing with magical creatures.

Jack: Why doesn't he commit suicide?

Cristina: Santa?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: I mean, Saint Nick, I guess. Why? Why would he want to do that?

Jack: Isn't the goal kill magical creatures because he's a human?

Cristina: He's a human.

Jack: It says who isn't it?

Cristina: Kill magic powers that were given to him by God.

Jack: Is that the case here?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: All saints are using the power that they're killing.

Cristina: That they're killing.

Jack: They hunt things with powers, not just demons. Yes, things with magical abilities.

Cristina: Because they're not God's creatures.

Jack: Maybe wasn't God. Wasn't. Weren't vampires God's creatures?

Cristina: No. That's what you get if you don't believe in him.

Jack: I thought people got punished and turned into vampires.

Cristina: Yes, that too.

Jack: By God.

Cristina: By God himself. No, I think it's by the church.

Jack: So you Tell me. The church has power independent of God?

Cristina: Yes. Well, they were given to, I guess. Yes. Okay. They were given to the powers by God to turn people into demons and then have the power to kill those demons that they turned them into.

Jack: Sounds right.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Seems legit.

Cristina: It's a very confusing story, but it's the truth. So I wonder, then that business of exorcism, then.

Jack: It's a setup.

Cristina: Yeah. They have the power.

Jack: It's a setup.

Cristina: Give people demons in them and then they could just take them out because they have that power too. Oh, my gosh.

Jack: Yep. We uncovered it. It was a setup.

Cristina: Did you know that? What?

Jack: I just figured it out right now with you.

Cristina: Yes. That's so crazy. Now we know he also resurrected a boy who was strangled by a demon.

Jack: Which he hired a demon.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And then they. He made the demon, then they hired him to get rid of that demon. I see a pattern here.

Cristina: Yeah, and he also outsmarted a demon in a wager.

Jack: I feel like he told me that before. Didn't St. Nick do something like that?

Cristina: He is St. Nick.

Jack: I mean, not St. Nick.

Cristina: St. Patrick.

Jack: St. Patrick. Didn't he do something like that? That also made him a saint.

Cristina: I don't know who. Probably. He has crazy stories too, so.

Jack: He has the craziest stories. That's the one saint to beat God.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah, but this guy outsmarted a demon through a wager, and then that demon became his servant.

Jack: Maybe also known as an elf or.

Cristina: Yes, elf. Or one of those many other things that follow him around. Like Krampus.

Jack: Krumpus doesn't follow him around, does it?

Cristina: Well, he works with him, sort of.

Jack: But that's like the devil. That's assuming that St. Nick is kind of like Jesus.

Cristina: Yeah, but it looks like a hairy monster, like a demon.

Jack: Okay, fair enough.

Cristina: It's demon. Like, maybe he beat him in a wager and he was like, hey, now you gotta help me take care of children, man.

Jack: It is kind of a thing. It's like, I already make demons to kill people. Now Imma make you. I beat you. Your job. The children specifically.

Cristina: Yep. You gotta beat those children.

Jack: And he kills them, Right? He kills the children. That's what Krampus does.

Cristina: I know. There's another of St. Nick's companions. I guess his name is servant Rupert. And he's a man with a long beard and a furry coat. And sometimes he has. He has a bag of ashes with him for some reason. I guess that's to give the bad kids. But sometimes he kidnaps the kids, the bad kids and takes them home with him to eat them later or he throws them into a river.

Jack: So yeah, we're talking about Jesus here. He's hanging out with a bunch of killers and like thieves and s***.

Cristina: Yeah, this is his other one. He's kind of like, I guess Krumpus. Krumpus does similar things to that. I know we talked about Krampus last year, but I totally forgot much about him.

Jack: I think he murdered children. Yeah.

Cristina: Oh, okay. He murdered children. Well, this guy too, because he has a lot of. There's like equally good and bad servants, I guess, if you want to call them that. Slaves, whatever. And last time you were talking about kids who were turned into pickles or some weird story. I finally figured that out that St.

Jack: Nick in the barrels where he pickled the children and thus he got.

Cristina: Kids were already being pickled to be sold for as meat because there was a famine. So the butcher wanted to sell them as meat. As I guess non children meat, you know. But Nick found out what he was doing somehow. I guess he knew that barrel was not filled with regular meat and he turned those children alive. Those pickled children.

Jack: And then he ate them. He's like, I won't eat them. Pickled eats them alive.

Cristina: No, he saved those children. And that's how he became the patron of children, maybe. Or one of the many stories. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. So he got his powers by pickling. Got you.

Cristina: He did. I guess he had nothing to do with pickling those children. They were already pickled.

Jack: Well, it's weird because it looked like he was just traveling with kids in barrels or something in the painting that they made. Because the painting was just misguided. It was about a moment and then it got so many iterations that eventually it just became him standing in front of kids inside of barrels.

Cristina: Yeah. Actually that's one of the interesting things I learned about was that. Yeah, people don't really know what he did in his life. So they look at that picture or pictures of him like that and they have no idea what's going on. Some of them think he's a.

Jack: A child pickler.

Cristina: A child pickler. I don't think that's one of them. They. Because they didn't know much about him. He became a patron of so many things. So many random things besides children. He was. He's a patron for coopers, which are barrel makers. Like people who make barrels see him as their saint, I guess.

Jack: The saint of barrels.

Cristina: Yes, barrow makers. The saint of barrel makers. He's Also was a. I think the first one that. Or the most important saint that he was before children was of sailors and fishermen and stuff because of a story that he calmed the storms of. I don't know. On. He calmed the storm in sea for fishermen, for merchants. Yeah. It saved some fishermen. I mean it saved the sailors lives. And they all worshiped him pretty much for that.

Jack: That is weird.

Cristina: Yeah. And they all pray for him and stuff. And on. There's. When they celebrate his life. They celebrate it on December 6, before actual Christmas day, which I think they still had two on that day in December 6th, when they go. They go to church for him and then they go to a festival and buy presents for their children and they give it to their children. And then people end up thinking, oh, he's for children because of that event that just became a thing that people did.

Jack: That makes sense. So basically all the random things surrounding him decided that he's the saint of that thing.

Cristina: Yes, yes. He also saved three soldiers from being executed because I guess they didn't do the crime, but they wanted to kill somebody for the crime and he stopped them.

Jack: Ah, typical politics. Somebody must be punished, sir. But we don't have who did it. Doesn't matter. You see that guy over there? He doesn't look like anybody would care about him. Kill him.

Cristina: What? They were soldiers, though I'm sure they had family.

Jack: Right. Because soldiers today are treated so well. This is back then in barbarian times.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Before the invention of the control remote, the standard for human advancement.

Cristina: Yes, the remote control. The greatest creation. That. In the microwave, I guess.

Jack: And sliced bread as well.

Cristina: Oh. What? Another thing he was known for was after his parents died, he gave away their wealth to the poor. He gave random people, I guess they left their shoes outside and he would throw gold in the shoes. That also became a tradition for kids.

Jack: To throw gold in their shoes.

Cristina: Yeah, Getting like presents in their shoes. Or the stockings thing. Maybe that came from that as well.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Yeah. He was a secret gift giver and he liked putting coins in people's shoes if they left them out. I don't. I don't know how it was back.

Jack: Then, but maybe it's like the oriental cultures where they tend to leave their shoes either at a shoe rack or outside of the door.

Cristina: Okay. The last one is he rescued three girls from prostitution. You've heard of that story? We talked a little bit about that. I'm not sure.

Jack: Rescued them by.

Cristina: He didn't really rescue them, but he gave them money. The money that they need to Marry to get a nice husband.

Jack: I guess they were gonna buy their husbands.

Cristina: I guess that's how it worked. I'm not sure. I'm not sure how dowries work. We don't have that nowadays, but I think so it's either you get married or prostitution were the only options for these women.

Jack: Because working was not allowed.

Cristina: Yes, exactly. Women probably couldn't work. So you either get married or you go into prostitution. And I guess they needed to bribe these men to marry them. But he helped them out, so. And I think that's why he's also the patron of whores, of hookers, unmarried people, of streetwalkers. Of street walkers.

Jack: The saint of streetwalkers.

Cristina: No, of unmarried people. He's. He's got a bunch of weird things. Oh, and of brewers, which I guess has to do with that barrel. And people not sure. What is that barrel about?

Jack: Man Satanic loves his child. Based alcohol.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Because they didn't know about the whole prostitution dowry story. Sometimes they. When they had pictures of him, it would have like three golden balls and it would represent the, I guess, bag of gold. Or coins. Maybe Those are coins. People saw them as oranges. So in the medieval times, they thought he was from Spain and he would visit them to bring them oranges.

Jack: Ah, yes. When merchants are struggling to bring you produce and fruit.

Cristina: And guess what? He's also a patron of merchants.

Jack: Because oranges.

Cristina: I guess so.

Jack: And beer, apparently.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: St. Nick is coming. Children, you guys are gonna get some yummy oranges and dad's gonna get f****** ripped.

Cristina: Yes, that's pretty much. Yeah. The only one that I don't really know is archers and pharmacists. Why?

Jack: Because the barrels could have also had medicine.

Cristina: Oh, and archers.

Jack: I guess archers were also shoved into the barrels. No, I mean, there were kids in the barrels. Why couldn't you chop up and like, pickle the remains of an archer?

Cristina: I guess so they're like just making up what was in that barrel.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: And pawnbrokers.

Jack: They were also in the barrels.

Cristina: They were also in the barrels.

Jack: It's about the barrels.

Cristina: It's all about the barrels.

Jack: He's the saint of barrels in one way or another.

Cristina: Okay. Do you remember how people become saints?

Jack: They do miracles. And then a group of hobos inside of the church decide he is a miracle doer in the name of God or something. And they must be really old or dead.

Cristina: Dead. They have to be dead for sure. Yeah, that's step one, be dead, be dead.

Jack: Okay, Step one, be dead, be dead.

Cristina: You gotta Wait at least five years.

Jack: After death and wait, the guy who cheated the system was Saint Nick?

Cristina: I don't think he cheated the system. I don't know.

Jack: There was one. It was either St Nick or Mr. Rogers who was a saint ahead of time.

Cristina: No, he's not a saint. I don't think he's a saint.

Jack: Are you positive the saint.

Cristina: There was some saints that become saints before, like right after death because they, they got martyred, they call it, which is they. They were killed. Someone killed them. So they get to rush past the five year thing.

Jack: So this is to say if somebody has done a couple of miracles and then I murder him.

Cristina: They don't have to do miracles. The miracles they do in real life are not part of this.

Jack: I thought that was part of the rubric.

Cristina: No, there are miracles involved. They have nothing to do with the ones that you do while alive.

Jack: You specifically said in the previous Christmas episode that miracles were part of becoming a saint.

Cristina: Yes, yes, but not while you're alive.

Jack: How do you do miracles while dead?

Cristina: People have to pray to you.

Jack: Right?

Cristina: And then a miracle happens and then it counts.

Jack: So you have to be worshipped before you're a saint. People just have to hold you as a false God. And then the church is like, I guess he's false God enough. Now let's legitimize his godliness.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the church makes gods. Gods don't make the church except for.

Cristina: The one main God who gives them the powers.

Jack: Does he though?

Cristina: Yes, he.

Jack: Are we sure they didn't like, then again force this guy and he's like in the basement of the church being in prison and they're sucking his power out to use it?

Cristina: Possibly.

Jack: I don't know, like God is, Is that what's in the freaking the Vatican slot down or whatever the h*** wherever they keep in, like, you know, the holy things that are like, for. They got it closed down like Fort Knox. And what's really down there is both Jesus and God imprisoned.

Cristina: Oh my God.

Jack: While they're being milked for their infinite power.

Cristina: But then how are all these people before their death doing miracles?

Jack: Before whose deaths?

Cristina: Their deaths.

Jack: Oh, they're praying to God. Yeah, but God, his energy is inside of like a bottle in the church and there's some sort of genie guy using that energy. And like I hear prayers for God, but I've got you imprisoned.

Cristina: God, like Saint Nick, he was, he was using something that had the powers from the church.

Jack: Yeah, Church has the power from God. And when you pray to God, you're Really being received by the church antenna of power. And then they're like, send some, distribute some energy to that praying soul.

Cristina: Okay, whoa, that is disturbing. So step one, death. Or way after death.

Jack: Maybe that was actually why it was important to kill Jesus in the first place.

Cristina: For his powers to.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, kill him for his powers. He's more like a man. Other God. Man is other God dead. Did the church kill God to use his powers? To use his powers?

Cristina: No, but he wouldn't have, like. Did he have a physical body? Like, how do you capture.

Jack: Let's look at it like this. Jesus happens. Yes, Jesus killed. We don't have wrathful God anymore. Was that literally God? Did the church literally kill him and just like take his corpse down in a hole somewhere and just. Just milking the energy that's leaking out? Oh yeah, let's put him in a container and melt away that leak. That infinitely leaking energy.

Cristina: Possibly. Because from learning about all these saints, there's a lot of creepy things. Like some of their bodies are perfectly fine way later after their death. Like they don't die. The bodies don't die.

Jack: That's weird.

Cristina: Yes, they're just sleeping bodies. Like nothing is happening to their body.

Jack: Yeah, it's really weird. I've seen some of that before. Like they somehow don't decay or anything.

Cristina: Yeah, there's like one lady, or I think it's a lady saint, I don't know, is in display in a church.

Jack: That's nuts.

Cristina: That's nuts. What's going on here? Is it church related?

Jack: Maybe. Maybe they're just sending Jesus power. Maybe that person is just hibernating until they wake up. A vampire.

Cristina: What if they are vampires? Then do you just gotta pretend to be sleeping?

Jack: No, that person's recovering because they died. Allegedly. So they sleep for centuries at a time.

Cristina: That is so crazy. So you knew about that? That's weird, right?

Jack: Yeah, I've heard about that before.

Cristina: That's crazy. Okay, so step two of becoming a saint is to become a servant of God. Of course, I'm not sure if that's also part of after your death, because I'm pretty sure before you're dead, you're supposed to have converted into Christianity if you weren't already a Christian or born Christian or whatever.

Jack: Do you have to be Catholic?

Cristina: You have to be Catholic. Oh my God.

Jack: Or is it like any form of Christianity floats? Like it could be a Pentecostal, I don't know, Is it the Catholic Church that's doing all this? Yes, because let's look at this Jesus shows up, right? Some people in the Jewish church decide kill Jesus. Then evil God disappears. And we have people who can make miracles happen, chosen by the now Christian church. They change that group of people with the power of God at their hands. Even said 100 years later, we're not even Jews, we're Christian. We're this new thing. We believe and use the power of Christ. And if you want the power of Christ in you, you gotta join the church.

Cristina: Because they actually have the power of Christ.

Jack: They actually have the power of Christ. Maybe Christ is the vessel that directly takes in like we gotta look at it like this, right? Christ was the human form, but he's still God. He's still connected to God. And you killed Christ and you imprisoned Christ. God can't do anything, it's him. Yeah, and you just keep siphoning. God is still alive, but Jesus, God is dead. But his body also won't wither away. It's always going to be trying to come back, slowly draining. Infinite God, but he's infinite. So you just are the other person with God's power, other than God himself. Except God made a one way power direction into Jesus. And because you don't let Jesus come back to life, God can't like reverse the process.

Cristina: How do you stop them from coming back to life? Do they have a stake in his heart?

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Maybe they have the same for the saints. Because the saints, even after death do some really strange things like, like there was, there's a blood, a veil of one of the saints blood and it, they say it's dry but every around his birthday or death or something, it turns into liquid.

Jack: Who says that?

Cristina: The church says that. I think.

Jack: Is that like the floating rock somewhere in Israel or whatever?

Cristina: It's a cathedral in Naples.

Jack: So yeah, of course the church would say that.

Cristina: Of course. I wonder if they show it off though. Like look at it today, it's dry. Look at it today now. Oh look, it's liquidy.

Jack: I bet, I bet the church has a bunch of weird tricks like that that it uses to brainwash people.

Cristina: Where are they getting the. I mean, I guess they can get the blood from anything.

Jack: Hard to get blood.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, they just a rooster outback or something. But yeah, there's weird things like that. There's St. Viviana who, her parents died and her sister tried to force her into prostitution, but she refused to. And then they imprisoned her in a madhouse and then beat her to death. But when she passed away, they built a church on her grave. And in the church, they had a garden, and the garden grows herbs that cures headaches and epilepsy, but it doesn't cure prostitution. Maybe like no one has. Like, maybe none of them had the thought beforehand. Maybe you got to go there thinking like, should I go prostitute? And then you eat the herb and you're like, nah, I'm cured.

Jack: I now have money. I don't need to prostitute. Thank you. Fruit?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or herb.

Cristina: Thank you. Herb. Yeah. Mm. So there's a lot of strange things. Step 3 Show proofs of a life of heroic virtue, which I guess is like St. Nick donating all his parents money to the poor. That was pretty heroic, I think. Maybe, I don't know.

Jack: Now can I walk into a town that I've never been at before? And then when somebody talks to me, I'm like, oh yeah, man, I got just done dedicating my life to helping other people and doing only but good. Flash back to what my life was really like. I burned entire towns and slaughtered families everywhere, raping and killing everybody I ever saw. But then I made it to this town, I'm like done with it. And then I'm in that town, I'm like, nah, I've always done good things. And there happens to be Catholics. Do they still, like, they're just going on my word at that point?

Cristina: No, they have to investigate.

Jack: How would they find it? How long ago are we talking?

Cristina: I don't know. It just says that they investigate the person's life and the writings for evidence of what they're looking for.

Jack: So if I got no proof, then I can't be a saint.

Cristina: Yeah, like you got to have that horrible life killing people, but then you really did change your life around and help people. You might become a saint, who knows?

Jack: But I didn't become a good person.

Cristina: No, no, no, I know, like you can't, you can't if you didn't. If you're just lying to them. But if a person did kill a bunch of people but then changed their life around and was only good, they could possibly become a saint.

Jack: That makes sense. Seems legit.

Cristina: Yes, that's. And then step four is a miracle that happens after you pray to this person that's wanna be a saint. The Saint Nick, Whatever.

Jack: So dear Saint Nick, bring me presents or children inside barrels.

Cristina: Yes. And then he gives it to you, and then that's proof that that person is already in heaven, man.

Jack: Okay, okay. So people prayed to St. Nick and their prayers came true, but he was considered the saint of children in barrels, essentially.

Cristina: Children. Barrels are a separate thing. It's not children in barrels. It's children and barrels.

Jack: But the combo is the only way he gets his power. No, out children being exclusively put in a barrel. He's powerless.

Cristina: No, it's separate. It's totally separate. And then the final thing to become a saint is just to have another miracle.

Jack: So two miracles?

Cristina: Yes. One is to prove that you're in heaven, and the second is to prove that you're holy.

Jack: The one that proves you're in heaven doesn't prove you're holy. Is this to say you can be.

Cristina: Or I guess that you're already holy. That you're. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, I guess it's both the same, right? I don't know. Okay, whatever. Two miracles after your death. It's not that crazy of steps. Maybe one day you will do this after your death. Who knows? What if someone tries to make you a saint? That'd be crazy.

Jack: That'd be awesome. Super epic. I want a bunch of worshipers.

Cristina: But you have to actually dedicate your life to Christianity eventually in your life.

Jack: No, I'm gonna cheat the system. I'll make it work. I'm gonna get that guy who made Heisenberg the fake paperwork, make him make me a bunch of fake religious paperwork.

Cristina: How is that gonna work out? They're gonna find out they got the money. You have investigators.

Jack: I have the queen on my side.

Cristina: No, you don't. She is one of their investigators.

Jack: What, the queen couldn't investigate.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: She's busy running the world.

Cristina: And that's part of the world that she runs. She investigates saints.

Jack: No, she doesn't. She appoints them.

Cristina: She appoints them. What does that mean?

Jack: She's like, you're a saint now.

Cristina: She points at them.

Jack: Yeah, she says, you're a saint now. You're a saint now you're the Pope. Now. You're a saint, now you're a priest.

Cristina: I think we talked about this in the werewolf episode, but there's a saint for the fear of werewolves.

Jack: Now you pray to him to get the fear of werewolves away, or you get the werewolves away. He's like, I'm scared of werewolves. I can. I can work with that Here. Now you're not afraid of werewolves. But it's like, do you see anti werewolf. There are werewolves outside my door. What do I do? Well, I can take your fear of dying by werewolves away. If that. Like, I could do that part.

Cristina: I don't know. Yes. St. Herbert, the werewolf protector, can you.

Jack: Get rid of the werewolves. No. I can stop you from being scared of the way you're about to die.

Cristina: Yes. Then there's also St. Patrick. I don't know if he has anything to do with being. Praying for him for werewolves, but I just remember that we talked already about one of these stories. But there's two stories involving werewolves. Which one was St. Patrick's turn a king into a werewolf as some type of punishment.

Jack: Seems legit.

Cristina: And then also he turned a tribe into werewolves. Every seven years, they have to be a werewolf, and then seven years they're normal. And then back to werewolf to normal every seven years.

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Oh, no. They had a disagreement.

Jack: Man, he. He really did abuse the power of God. But God wasn't gonna do anything because he would just stand up and be like, God, don't make me.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And God would be like, no, no, I'm good. I'll do it.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. He's. He. He can do whatever. I guess he runs this world.

Jack: Yeah. He has that free ticket. He has to be immortal. God is like, sure, yeah.

Cristina: So crazy. Then there's Saint Gills. He is the saint of the fear of breastfeeding. He was a hermit living in a cave, and he kept himself alive for several years drinking milk from a deer.

Jack: I thought that was going to go a whole other direction. I thought he was in a cave. He was in a cave with a female. And he's like, look, we have to stop you from losing that milk because I'm going to die.

Cristina: Nope, Nope. But if you have. You're in a life or death situation, and your only way to live is to drink some breast milk from an animal. You can pray to him. If you're having trouble doing it, you.

Jack: Can pray to get that. That deer lactating.

Cristina: Okay. Oh, my gosh. Well, yes, there's that.

Jack: Fantastic.

Cristina: Well, there's. He's not the only amazing.

Jack: But like, wait, could a mom who's struggling to breastfeed her baby pray to him?

Cristina: Yeah, probably. It says fear of breastfeeding.

Jack: Oh, wait, it's the fear of breastfeeding.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They're so specific. Why couldn't he just be the saint of breastfeeding? So he deals with every part of breastfeeding?

Cristina: I think he does deal. It's probably breastfeeding. But you don't want to just say breastfeeding. So maybe fear of breastfeeding makes it sound better. I don't know.

Jack: I think it's just for people who are scared of breastfeeding. Now you're less scared about breastfeeding? Yeah, that's it.

Cristina: I don't know. Then there's St. Arnath, who's the saint of beer.

Jack: No, that's wrong.

Cristina: He's the saint of beer.

Jack: He's not.

Cristina: Why not?

Jack: Because St. Nick is the saint of beer.

Cristina: They're both. But this guy, he actually. I don't know, he didn't really do anything. He gave people beer when they had a. They had a long journey and they needed beer, and he gave them beer.

Jack: Nobody's ever needed beer. They wanted beer. They really wanted beer.

Cristina: They have survived without the beer. They're gonna die.

Jack: I feel like a larger number of them died because beer would dehydrate them way sooner.

Cristina: Well, they feel like he saved their life with his beer. Maybe his beer was of magic. Magic beer that kept them alive through the long journey.

Jack: So St. Nick can't be the saint of beer because this one time a different saint killed a bunch of people with beer.

Cristina: They're both the saints of beer. Wait, did we say.

Jack: No, St. Nick is the saint of children in barrels.

Cristina: In barrels and barrels in barrels. And. And he's saying, oh, brewers, not beer. The people who make the beer. It's totally different.

Jack: So that's to say that saints aren't the saint of all things related to the subject.

Cristina: Yes, I guess. I don't know.

Jack: Like, you don't pay pray to St. Nick when you want beer. You only pay to St. Nick when you want the beer harvest to go well.

Cristina: Ah.

Jack: Or the people who make the beer to be fine.

Cristina: Do it right. Oh, yes.

Jack: Or to do it right.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: But if you're like, man, if I only had a beer, I pray to this guy.

Cristina: To Saint Arnuff. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Then there's Saint Farce, who's the saint of people with STDs.

Jack: The AIDS pandemic of the 80s when the government was driving around in bed handing people aids. The guy who was driving the truck.

Cristina: He had a magic spade to cut down trees. And then the place that he cut down the trees became his property.

Jack: And then he got AIDS on his property.

Cristina: No. And then he made a hospice, and he cured people by touching them inappropriately, Maybe. Except for women, because women were banned.

Jack: So he would jerk guys off, they would leave. Like, I feel better, I guess.

Cristina: He could heal blindness, leprosy, tumors, all by touch, including venereal diseases.

Jack: So he would jerk people into. He would jerk people healthy.

Cristina: He would jerk people healthy. I don't know. He was just touching them.

Jack: No women. I don't want my fingers up in anything. I want tight grips. And you will feel better.

Cristina: And they did.

Jack: And they did. He wasn't wrong. He was intuitive. Yeah. And they're like, I see the demons.

Cristina: Coming out, but why not women? Like, would his magic not work for women?

Jack: Why would he want to touch a woman? He clearly has a proclivity towards penises.

Cristina: Did God tell him to do that, though? Or he decided he dedicated his life.

Jack: To God and then jerk guys off? What's hard to understand?

Cristina: Okay, okay. Rupert walks with a limp because of a childhood injury. And his clothes is dirty and his face is dirty because he collects soot from the chimney when he comes down it. I guess he comes down in person. Then Santa Claus, I'm not sure. Like, he makes it clean. And then Santa comes down so he can look all pretty and red.

Jack: I think he just uses his chimney to kidnap children and by default cleans it.

Cristina: Not intentionally, but St. Nick is fine. He has to come down there. Like him, right? I don't know.

Jack: Does he magically come through?

Cristina: It depends on the story, I guess. There's two things that they do. Either they ask the children if they know their prayers, and if they do, they get rewarded. If they don't, they get punished. There's also a talent show that they might have to do, which if they perform well at dancing or singing, they get a present. If not, they get tortured.

Jack: That's f*****.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. But, like, that's better than being me and alive.

Jack: But it's like, what if you're an untalented kid but a great person? Too bad you die today.

Cristina: Yes. That's pretty much like either you had you were bad throughout the year, you performed badly in your dance, or you don't know your prayers, you're being punished.

Jack: Sounds about right. Sounds old testimony then.

Cristina: In Germany, St Nicholas has a partner named Bels Nickel. He is a man who wears fur which covers his entire body. But he's not an animal. He's just a person wearing fur. Entirely. I don't know. And sometimes he wears a mask with a long tongue. It sounds like a man dressed like a demon. I don't know. Instead of saying, he's a demon, he's just a man who dresses up like a monster, and he's the one that gives them coal if they're bad. I guess that's all he does. He's not as awesome as the other guy. He just dresses up in a furry coat and a weird mask. Also, there's another of St. Nicholas's companions servants. It's called Black Pete.

Jack: Was Black Pete a black guy?

Cristina: Yes. Yes, he was. How they like to portray him is a person wearing blackface, wearing exaggerating red lipstick and having a nappy wig with colorful clothing and golden earrings.

Jack: Is that how he's portrayed? Or is he actually just a white guy that lives as a black guy and hangs out with St. Nick?

Cristina: I'm not sure. It could be either or I don't think.

Jack: Is Santa just hanging out with a dude in permanent blackface?

Cristina: He might be, yeah. So his servant, Black Pete, what does he do? Oh, he also abuses the bad kids. Or he used to. He used to abuse them, but in recently they garrided the punishments and now he's become a friendly character.

Jack: He's PC now?

Cristina: Yeah, he's PC. And also people can't dress up as him anymore.

Jack: Black people can.

Cristina: I don't know, but that's. And the Christmas elves that we talked a bit about. Do I know anything about the Christmas elves? I can't remember. They come from Norse mythology and they're referred to as hidden folks because. I don't know, they like to hide. They're the guys that steal your socks, maybe. Are those elves?

Jack: I don't know. I think so.

Cristina: Oh, maybe.

Jack: No, I think those are leprechauns, actually. No, something like that.

Cristina: Wasn't it gnomes? People are really concerned about these elves, though.

Jack: So North Pole gnome. North Pole elves, leprechauns and gnomes are all kind of the same.

Cristina: They're all magical, tiny people.

Jack: Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: That Sansa was somehow able to enslave through a gamble with demons. In the medieval times, elves are seen as wicked and often linked with demons.

Jack: How connected with demons?

Cristina: I don't know. They're just often linked with demons. So demons gave Santa those elves? I think that makes sense. Elves are demons or those elves are demons. Yes. Also, there's a Christmas goat that Santa replaced in some country before St. Nicholas in Sweden. The. The Christmas. I guess the gift giver was the. Was given by a yol goat, which. Yol is another word for Christmas, I think.

Jack: Yole goat.

Cristina: The yole goat. Yes, the Christmas goat. So the Christmas goat is a pagan thing. Sometimes it's a man that has been turned into a goat man, but I like to imagine it as just a goat. The Christmas goat. In Finland, people still dress up as goats.

Jack: Fair enough. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah. He usually wears a warm red robe and a walking stick and travels in a sleigh pulled by a reindeer. But it doesn't fly. That reindeer doesn't fly. It's a real reindeer.

Jack: The goat isn't an animal like the reindeer, but rather the steerer of the sled that's connected to reindeer. Yes, he's a goat man.

Cristina: He's a goatman. But he's a Christmas. He could be a goat. He's just a really big. He's a were goat. He's a were goat. He's thought to be an ugly creature and he frightens children while some think of him as an invisible creature. What? No, he's a goat. It's just a goat. He's not an ugly creature. He's a goat looking creature. His goats aren't ugly. Goats are not ugly.

Jack: Yeah, they are.

Cristina: They are beautiful creatures. I think they're beautiful. So most people think Santa Claus is a combination of St. Nicholas and this Christmas goat because this Christmas goat was also giving gifts during the same time of year.

Jack: So people are assuming the St. Nicholas and this goat stories got merged and the Santa came to be.

Cristina: Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. Like the sleigh with the reindeer is the same as this. This goat.

Jack: So St. Nick did fusion, but instead of becoming a perfect, singular individual the size of one person, he got fat because he literally became the size of two people.

Cristina: Yes, he became the size of two.

Jack: People the size of a man with a goat.

Cristina: And the Christmas goat receives over 500,000 letters from over 200 countries every year. Most of the letters are from China, Poland and Italy. Wonder how they heard about the Christmas goat.

Jack: The Chinese believe in a Christmas goat.

Cristina: Yes, because reindeers come from Finland. So the Christmas goat must be more real than the Santa Claus if you go by reindeer. Where does Santa Claus live again? The North Pole. Are there deers there? Is that a fictional place?

Jack: The North Pole? There's not life there, I think.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. So there you go. Oh, yeah. And also, Santa Claus has a bunch of reindeers. I don't know if you know their names. I don't know where they came from. I guess it was from a catchy poem or song or something. And then everyone just fell in love with these reindeers.

Jack: What?

Cristina: The Santa Claus reindeers? I don't remember where they came from. All of their. His deers. There were eight. Now there's nine. I mean, now there's probably more than nine because they had children by now.

Jack: But he only keeps the originals enslaved.

Cristina: Ah, then there's Santa Claus, which is also a figure based on St Nicholas, which is also probably where we get Christmas Santa Claus from as well.

Jack: What does he do what's his deal?

Cristina: He's. For some reason, he's celebrated on the Same Day as St Nicholas. He's depicted as an elderly man with white hair and a full long beard, and he rides a white horse. He carries a big red book which records whether each kid has been naughty or nice in the past year.

Jack: So there might be a group of people that work to create the illusion of Santa Claus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like, it's a team effort. It's not one dude. It's planning and Monday.com.

Cristina: Yes. There's like four main dudes, a bunch of different helpers, some horses, some reindeers.

Jack: They got transport. They got like planned out ice so that people could get in and out of houses. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I'm a slide down the chimney. There's gonna be a tree to the left. You gotta disable the laser alarm system.

Cristina: Which one of them does that? The goat.

Jack: The one who cleans the chimney. Which one clean?

Cristina: Oh, servant Rupert.

Jack: So Rupert's gonna clean the chimney on his way down.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And he's gonna cut the wires on the alarm system.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then Santa Claus is gonna follow behind while Rupert keeps everybody distracted. Well, the other guys are in the microphone and the goat is waiting. He's the getaway driver. He's in the sled on. He's on the sled on top of the house waiting for Santa Claus and Rupert to get back so they can dart.

Cristina: All right, and what is Belsnickel doing?

Jack: Who the f*** is Belsnickel?

Cristina: He's the man in the furry wearing fur.

Jack: Oh, the one who eats the children?

Cristina: No, he's not the one that eats the children. The one that eats the children is servant Rupert.

Jack: Because that's what. That's what's happening here. Dudes going in, kidnapping kids. There. Some of the kids are in the bag. So they leave gifts. They kidnap children. Yes, Kids are in the bag. Off to the next place they keep. They got a cage, I guess, or something so they can take the trade off. Is a bunch of people get some material things. But we kill a couple of kids.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And so our operation functions.

Cristina: Ah, but we keep it a secret by decorating it as a. We're giving good children.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: That's what today's about.

Jack: And then people are outside. Exactly. Because then people are like the. The. The child trafficking market is so booming and dangerous. How dare they?

Cristina: Worse on Christmas.

Jack: It's worse on. Christ knows why. Meanwhile, Santa Claus is everywhere on Christmas, kidnapping kids left and right. Man. Was he who Qanon Is fighting.

Cristina: Qanon is fighting.

Jack: Qanon is trying to beat Santa Claus. That's the truth here.

Cristina: But is QAnon one person?

Jack: The agent that is known as Q is.

Cristina: Oh, okay. And the QAnon is the cult. Oh, okay. Versus Santa and Nick.

Jack: And versus the the Santa. Santa Claus conglomerate. Santa Claus, which include immortal Saint Nick.

Cristina: How do you beat that?

Jack: Because Santa Claus is like Drake. Like Drake, people are like Drake the Rapper, but Drake is a team of people. His name is Andre. Or it's like Billie Eilish. Billie Eilish the person? No, no. Billie Eilish might be her name, but it's a group. It's two people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So Santa Claus is bunch of people. St. Nick is who we're thinking about. Yes, but it's Krampus and this douche and that other douche. And a magical goat and a child eater and some dude beating the people Christmas.

Cristina: But I forgot. I don't remember anything about him. I just know his name is Father Christmas.

Jack: He's who they're bringing the kids home for.

Cristina: No, I guess he's the. He's doing what again?

Jack: He's a ringleader.

Cristina: He's a ringleader. Father Christmas.

Jack: Father Christmas. We have the face. St. Nick. But there's somebody giving orders.

Cristina: I thought Santa Claus was the face.

Jack: I could have sworn you were about to say I thought Sonic was. Sonic is the face of Christmas.

Cristina: Okay, so Sonic is helping Santa Claus. Is he on that sleigh? Is he?

Jack: I mean, how does he hit every house?

Cristina: Exactly. Sonic is involved in this. How is he still alive? His games.

Jack: Immortality. Saint Sonic.

Cristina: Saint Sonic. Oh, my God.

Jack: He was always selfless and he made impressive things happen.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: I think he qualifies.

Cristina: All right. We're saying that he's Santa.

Jack: We're saying he's a saint.

Cristina: He's a saint.

Jack: Saint Sonic.

Cristina: Saint Sonic. Okay, well, that was beautiful. I feel like we learned a lot today for nothing at all.

Jack: That was fantastic. We're definitely out of time, though. Okay, but that was a very educational moment where we learned that Santa Claus is kind of like Drake. There's a bunch of people working to make it function. There's a couple of psychotic saints that seem to have nothing to do with their ability. St. Nicholas is the saint of children in barrels, which we previously established.

Cristina: You made him that.

Jack: Pickled children.

Cristina: You made him that.

Jack: And so if you guys like this conversation, there are many more of that nature. You can be way more educated by going to last year's Christmas episode as well. So you can have a couple of nice episodes to check out in this holiday season. Grab this episode, grab one more episode from the past, put them together, play them back to back, and understand Saint Nick, the Saint of Barrels and children.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Anyways, to learn more, you can find other episodes discussing holidays and last year's Christmas episode as well at the official website, greatthoughts.info, apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe and rate the show and review it if you feel so inclined.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Word of the mouth, the most powerful tool you will have at your disposal. You just whisper to somebody, hey, you wanna listen to a show? And they'll be like, yeah, I do. And then you sit peacefully together with some food and snacks and everything goes well.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then you thank them and you're like, thanks, man, I enjoyed this. And they're like, thank you for telling me about it.

Cristina: Now let's subscribe and rate and review. This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: Boxing Day. I don't know what that is, but that's a holiday somewhere.

Jack: Boxing Day.

Cristina: Yeah, I think they put the idea is to donate stuff to the homeless people by putting the stuff in a box.

Jack: Oh, you mean like Mike Tyson has nothing to do with this holiday?

Cristina: No, no, I don't think so.

Jack: It's not like Mike Tyson's favorite holiday is Boxing Day.

Cristina: Maybe he loves putting things in boxes and doing it to homeless.

Jack: You sure it's not that he's boxing on this holiday? Like boxers all come out and box.

Cristina: Beat up on the homeless.

Jack: Yeah, maybe.

Cristina: I don't know anything about. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.