Rambling 160: Edgy for Giggles

What is the cause of all the censorship in America today? What is cancel culture after? Why does blue hair make people extremely sensitive? Why are there so many creeps in the United States? The duo deep dive into cancel culture and why they’ve not canceled the corruptions that will side with them to stay safe.

Rambling 160: Edgy for Giggles

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Topics Discussed

  • The Meaning of Words
  • Context
  • Sensitive Lefties
  • Spotify and Joe Rogan
  • Cuties
  • Pedo U.S.A.
  • Terrorist Countries
  • U.S.A. Invading Everyone
  • Scared of Bats
  • News Media Manipulation
  • Coward People
  • January 6th
  • Learn to Learn
  • Mars
  • Cockroach People

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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

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Jack: And I'm Jack.

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Jack: Yes. Be sure to hit that mother flipping we're PG now mother flipping button so you can get that God darn notification the second that mother effing.

Cristina: Is that PG still?

Jack: If you Mother effing? I don't know. Is it pg? I didn't say the bad word.

Cristina: Yeah, but wouldn't they know what that is?

Jack: Don't they know what I.

Cristina: What is? Mother flipping?

Jack: Yeah, like, obviously something else is meant to go there.

Cristina: Doesn't sound like it sounds like gibberish.

Jack: It does you. You know the movies of like the 90s and early 2000s, when they would, like, put it on TV to protect the children. We gotta make them say something so they like, dub over it some other s*** and just dumb sentences.

Cristina: I wish that was still going on. That makes no sense. Like, the kids are gonna be very slow. I don't know.

Jack: Did I fail just because I said right off the bat, should I said the R word?

Cristina: What's the R word? Oh, retarded. So for some reason I saw a post about that and I thought they were talking about rape or retarded. I was very confused about what retarded was. I mean, what the R word was. I wasn't sure. Yeah, like, okay, so it's retarded.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you saw the. The Twitter post?

Cristina: Yeah. And I. I wasn't sure. Like, I was thinking, is it retarded?

Jack: Yeah, I saw that too. That's what I was wondering. Like, okay, obviously that post is talking about the fact that we like. Okay, so the response from our end was we always use that word. Which is true, because it took all of a minute to get to retarded. Yeah, they were apologizing for having said it once.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: To make a point. But we totally drop it left and right, like, Well, I do.

Cristina: At least I'm not dropping anything.

Jack: You just did. You totally just said retarded.

Cristina: No, I didn't.

Jack: But here's the problem, dude. If somebody's getting offended by me saying the word retarded, like, you're adding a meaning to it that I'm not. Yeah, that's exactly what's happening here. You're getting offended by something that I am not saying because I am not referring to any type of person. I specifically think that's a dumb way to use that word. And incorrect because it doesn't mean that.

Cristina: All words are dumb. You can't tell what anything means. It's like you're just assuming what the meaning is.

Jack: Yeah, you're assuming. The problem is they're assuming what. It's so complicated. Right. Because the problem lands in that people are telling. Like you said something and I have a meaning for what you said even if you don't have the same meaning for what you said.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Well, I feel a certain way about what you said, so I'm offended. Even if you don't mean what I'm receiving and even if you clarify it. Well, you shouldn't have said it in the first place. Wait, but you don't mean the thing that I think.

Cristina: How would I have known you would have felt that way?

Jack: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It makes absolutely no sense for somebody to be that furious about something. Like, I do not mean somebody mentally handicapped and I do not mean somebody mentally retarded. When I say gay. I am not talking about a homosexual.

Cristina: You know, what are you talking about?

Jack: I'm talking about something that's whack.

Cristina: Whack.

Jack: Something's lame.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Something's retarded.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To me, retarded and gay mean the same thing. Which is neither mentally challenged or homosexual.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or queer by any standards.

Cristina: No, I understand how, like a commercial trying to get people to stop saying gay for some reason.

Jack: Like, saw a commercial, I feel like.

Cristina: I remember a commercial and they're like. Because it's somehow. You're not supposed to say. I guess it was a long time ago. Maybe my memory is wrong. I don't know, but I feel like there was a commercial trying to get kids to not say gay.

Jack: I don't remember that, but it's probably a thing.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Like, look, you can't just tell me what I can and cannot say. That's stupid. That's retarded.

Cristina: That's retarded.

Jack: That's pretty gay.

Cristina: That's pretty gay.

Jack: And not d*** sucking. No, d*** sucking's alright. If you like sucking d***, go suck some d***. That's cool.

Cristina: I don't think it's not.

Jack: That's homosexual.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I mean, unless you're a chick who's sucking the kick doesn't specify. I guess you could suck d*** in either direction.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You'd be straight and suck d***. In theory, yeah. Factually, all things considered. Yeah.

Cristina: You could be whatever. I don't know.

Jack: You could be scenario. Right. You could be a straight guy who sucks a d***.

Cristina: I wonder what, like out of curiosity.

Jack: No. Somebody's got a gun to your head and it's a survival move.

Cristina: Of course.

Jack: You see? Solved. Anything. Anything that. That. That scenario applies to any. You could justify anything.

Cristina: Do you think there's ever been a straight guy who's just curious, though?

Jack: Straight guy who's just curious? Yes. I specifically do believe and know the usual way it goes is some particularly effeminate guys who have female tendencies. And then people are like, oh, you're probably. And then people are like, oh, you're probably. And it's like it gets in their head and they're like that should I find out? And so they try and they find, no, I'm just effeminate. Thick isn't my thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So yeah, I know people who've experienced that.

Cristina: That they confused piece of other people.

Jack: Yes. Even if they weren't interested. Like, s***, I guess I have all the behavior. Maybe I'm the one up. And then they go and try and.

Cristina: People'S words are confusing people words are confusing.

Jack: People are idiots. People want to choose. And it's just the left, dude. It's not Democrats. No, no. It's not liberals and it's not progressives. It's the f******. Specifically that f****** sociological problem. The left. The left, yes. Sensitive snowflakey b******. Because progressives, you got all the logic. Let's move forward with technology that makes perfect sense. Let's advance society as a whole. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Democrats. Yeah. Dude, we kind of can't just have elites running the show. That's f*****. We've seen how that looks in every other country. It's pretty bad. Fine. Great. Totally fine. Great. And what's the other one? We got liberals. Yeah. F***. F******. Let the individual be do, do and be who they want to be. Makes perfect sense. Okay. It's the leftist mentality of we get to censor because emotions matter more. It's like that's the conflict between the left and liberals. Right. Liberals are like the individual. It's like, well, no. Well, you can't. Well, what about that individual? It's like, yeah, but if I have to worry about them, then I lose in turn. It makes no sense. Is what example again, liberals versus leftists. The leftists are the one trying to suppress while liberals stand for the individual's rights.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: It's like, let's not constrict things. Let people be who they want to be. If they want to be gay, if they want to be straight, if they want to f*** each other, if they want to f****** hook, if they want to be strippers, if they want to prostitute, do all the drugs.

Cristina: Be overweight.

Jack: They want to be overweight. Whatever. Don't judge a person. While leftists do nothing but judge and they want to force their judgments on other people. So you end up with a leftist that's saying you can't say the thing because that person's emotions. But it's like then you're telling me that the way I am is wrong and that hurts my emotions. Your logic is f****** flawed.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. Because you're not caring about the person.

Jack: No, you're caring that you're caring about the people who already agree with you. You're not caring about anybody except your confirmation bias bubble.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which is the problem with rightism as well.

Cristina: Rightism?

Jack: Yeah, people on the right, right wing people. It's the same thing the other way again. Republicans, nothing is wrong with that. We cannot have people unanimously decide and most of them are under educated morons. The same way they can't just have elites run it because then they'll brainwash, under educate and abuse everybody. You can also not have people just vote their way. And because the minority gets f****** shafted in every turn.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Okay. So Republicans make total sense. Conservatives. Yes. We cannot lose tradition or we lose who we are. It makes sense to balance moving forward with retaining the things that make us us simultaneously.

Cristina: That sounds beautiful.

Jack: Progressives and conservatives make sense. Republicans and Democrats make sense. Liberals actually exist on both sides. In fact, most liberals tend to be Republican. Although for whatever reason the leftists, Democrats and you know how they get bunched up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: For whatever reason they get thrown over there. And I don't know why. Because liberal ideology began on the Republican side. Actually, not the Republican side. The conservative side of have less government. Oh, that was a left. That was a right ideology.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Of like. No, we want to be not pressured by the f***. We want to be free.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Freedom above all. Freedom to just.

Cristina: Both sides are cool with that.

Jack: Yes. But the leftism on both ends is totally different. Not the leftism. The liberalism on both sides is different. Yeah, Liberalism on the right. The right means you are not being forced by the government to do anything. Less government is liberalism on the left. Similar to conservatism, which is, I guess conservative is really about tradition versus government. It's not really government base. While the liberals of the left Believe a person should be able to be whoever the f*** they want to be. You got to assume that liberalism on the right comes with conservatism and they're sort of related in that, well, you can't be gay. That's not a conservative ideology. You shouldn't do that. The liberal on the right. Yeah, you shouldn't do that. That's wrong. Okay, but the government shouldn't force a law down your throat either.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: Liberals on the left are saying if the government can force a rule that protects you, then they should, so you could be whoever the f*** you want to be. There's total difference there. The left in blue says, we don't give a s*** what the government does. Just let me be me. Liberals on the right are. No, f*** the government. Just keep them out of my business. Just keep them out of my business.

Cristina: Okay? What, so there's two liberal groups?

Jack: Yeah, technically liberals are from all. It's the only problem is the leftists that f****** heavy. But the right do the same s***. They judge hard. They judge everybody.

Cristina: But they're not canceling everyone, are they?

Jack: No, the right isn't canceling anybody because the right also believes in being thick skinned. I should be able to attack you the same way you can attack me.

Cristina: Okay?

Jack: The left is. They say the left twice while the rights are the ones that I just said. And the left is just Please don't say those words. Yeah. Oh my God. My feelings science, but my feelings science by my.

Cristina: That's very weird because they don't actually.

Jack: Support science either because based on some.

Cristina: Of these studies, if it works for me.

Jack: No, the problem is, for example, think of that study, right, with the. Which look, if you, if you listen to show regular. And you're hearing this again, I'm sorry, like it is what it is, you know. But think of the studies that they made about the women who get raped and the soldiers from war, from the, the early wars. What is it? The people from before the 90s and the people from after the 90s and the people who experienced the women who experienced, quote, rape and men who experienced going to war before PTSD was called PTSD and before there was any research on it. When studied without being told what the study is for, they were told that psychological evaluation. So they go in, they get these tests done. The older crowd, before PTSD became a popular term. So that group of people now, even after they found out about it, but they were already like 40 and 50 years old by the time that they ever heard the term the first time Those people had no signs. No signs of. On average, yes. Some here and there, but we can assume margin for error. The majority, like 90% of them had nothing going on.

Cristina: No trauma.

Jack: No trauma because the women of that time were told, well, you just do whatever f*** your husband says. That's what marriage is. They were. It was programmed into their heads, like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I was raised that way. My mother went through. Yeah, whatever. And they were fine. Same thing with the guys. Oh. You go to war, s*** happens. F***. You see crazy s***, and then you come back and you live your life. Yes. Here and there, somebody's messed up.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But on average, that entire crowd that didn't have PTSD as something to lean on was fine. No problems. They run their lives totally fine. Not need medication, no therapy, no nothing. Just living life successfully. Low rates of suicide. Just normal people. And then you enter the era immediately after PTSD becomes very big. And people talk about it a lot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And what do you have when you run the same study on those people? All have depression. Almost all. It was, like, really excessive. It was like 98% or something. All had depression, PTSD, all on medications, could barely function and were triggered by mad s***.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Meaning what you believe is stronger than anything. And if you're believing, you have a victim mentality and they're hurting me and these words hurt me, and I'm getting offended. Well, you're gonna get offended. You're gonna get hurt. You're gonna be a victim.

Cristina: The world's complicated. I think trigger. Also that. I think I heard that. That word triggers.

Jack: You've associated tension with that word.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So you expect to be triggered even if nothing triggering is said.

Cristina: Yeah. Like if you saw the same thing without the word trigger or heard you, you'd have been fine. Whatever.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: It's weird, right? It's psychology. So these people who feel the need to force everybody else to do s***, that confirmation bias bubble that they're trying to bend everybody into. Nah, man. None of that is real. That's all in your head. That's why everybody else is f****** fine except you. That's it. They're the ones freaking the f*** out. Everybody else is fine except that f****** group of people.

Cristina: Yes, but they're very loud.

Jack: But they're very loud. But it doesn't do anything. It's like when they went against Netflix and f****** Lost and Spotify and Spotify and f****** Lost. Or when they f****** freaked the f*** out on the Internet at us. And it's like okay, sweet, bro. Like, what are you gonna do? 1. You can't cancel self sustaining people. Second. Your emotions don't matter to me. Yeah, you're garbage. I do not bend for somebody's emotions when reason is lacking. And the simple logic being if your emotions are hurt and I have to bend who I am to your emotions and my emotions are hurt, that s*** does not make sense. No, because we ended exactly where we were. Except now you're happy. The f***?

Cristina: But if I is just thinking about the money though, right? They're not thinking of like, my emotions versus your emotions.

Jack: Oh, I don't know.

Cristina: Maybe it's just.

Jack: Maybe they're making us.

Cristina: Making us money.

Jack: Maybe they're making a principled stand. I don't know.

Cristina: Maybe. I don't know.

Jack: Netflix made a principled stand.

Cristina: A musician that went against Joe Rogan. Or like, he's saying if you don't put down his.

Jack: Oh, yeah, that's everywhere today. You saw that?

Cristina: Yeah, I think they're not gonna listen to that. Of course. They just gonna take away his music.

Jack: What's that? A couple of days ago he said that. Been reading about it all f****** day. Just seeing that s*** everywhere. I'm like, how the h*** did I miss this? But like, they don't give a s***. Spotify give a crap.

Cristina: They don't. I don't think so.

Jack: It's ridiculous.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: But it's like, you can't just bend to every. Because once, if, let's say they do get Spotify to bend, right? Well, now they expect you to do it every time. They don't like something.

Cristina: That's the problem. That's the start.

Jack: That's the problem.

Cristina: You can't.

Jack: You can't set that precedent. Netflix is like, we are not f****** with this. We are not taking s*** down for you. And they stuck to their guns. I like that. They stuck to the guns. Even for the cuties thing.

Cristina: The cutie thing. Oh, okay.

Jack: And the cuties thing is a weird one, bro.

Cristina: It's a weird one because it's like, that's America versus everybody.

Jack: That's America versus everybody. Because the world was like, what the f*** is wrong with these a*******? They think this is sexual. It's like, yes, everybody in this country is a f****** pedo, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. We all looked at a thing of little girls doing acrobatics and nobody thought, oh, wow, they're talented. Not one. All of the United States in tandem said, wow. Sex and girls who are underage. It's like, why is that what came to your f****** mind? They were like, wow, these are athletes. They can. They perform, they dance, they sing, they. These are talented women. And the United States had to be that one f*** nut, the weirdo. Yeah. That was like. But sex say, bro, they're minors. What the h*** is wrong with you? Yes. They need to take it down. Exactly. They're minor sex. It's like, why did your mind be. Nobody said s***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Everybody was like, wow, interesting. A bunch of talent. And the United States was like, nah, nah, nah.

Cristina: They're dancing too sexy.

Jack: Yeah. You know they saw sex.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They didn't hear anybody else said it. No, they did. The Americans saw sex when they looked at little girls. And then they want to blame it on somebody else because they felt a little guilty. That's all it really is. That's all it really is. They. They found out s***. Not one part of this described sex. But that's where my mind went. So I got to blame f****** them for triggering me.

Cristina: That's sad. That is pretty much what happens.

Jack: They triggered my sex once while looking at little girls. Which also comes back to the fact that f****** Americans are obsessed with Japanese p*** of like schoolgirls, which comes from anime. That also forces that down people's throats. Of f****** big b*** anime girls.

Cristina: Yes. Yeah. So high school girls with big b****.

Jack: It wasn't like that before.

Cristina: Once upon a time, the girls didn't have big b****.

Jack: You can't fact you can trace back to the older animes before it became popular in the West. And just think of the animes. Think of the Yu Yu Hakusho that got made before it was popular, then got dubbed later and brought over.

Cristina: Like Sailor Moon. They're flat chested.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That got brought over.

Cristina: Inuasha.

Jack: Inuyasha. They got brought over. No. After anime became popular in the west, the b**** on these high schoolers got huge.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's traceable.

Cristina: Maybe they started eating our fast food.

Jack: No. They were looking at our overgrown girls and being like, well, they like that.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Do you see the problem? That's Americans being sexual as f*** to girls. Little girls. Americans are the same people who will go to the same Catholic church where a guy f***** a kid and be like, never happened. Where was this one? Even if the other 300 you heard about, you're like, there's only one here. It's like they just didn't get caught yet. Yeah, they just didn't get caught. They're doing it. There's too many for you. To really sit back and be like, nah. But the others are fine. Just like 3000 of these m************ in just a year. There's no way you really believe the rest of these guys aren't f****** your kids when you're not looking. But we, you know, we love to let it happen.

Cristina: We love to let it happen.

Jack: Will I fantasize about f****** little girls that I see in the f****** anime? I love that. I get my girlfriend, she does cosplay and she dresses up like that big b*** high schooler and that while she's in that outfit, man. So badass. And I got that fantasy where I'm the teacher and you're the student because that's not f***** up in every possible way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And you know, you get naughty and then I hit you with the rule because that's f****** sexy. And it's like, bro, it's so wrong. The United States is just a country of terroristic pedos.

Cristina: That's what it is.

Jack: That's what it is. It's. Look, the rest of world sees us as a crime country.

Cristina: We are. Yeah.

Jack: We're a giant criminal syndicate.

Cristina: Yeah. Or not the only ones.

Jack: No, they're a couple. They're a couple. But we are the most pronounced criminal syndicate that happens to be a country.

Cristina: Because, like, South America's there. They're not.

Jack: They're not saints. No, they're. They're not saints.

Cristina: They're our brothers.

Jack: They're. There's a lot of countries on there. Yeah, there's a lot of countries on. Well, United States, I mean.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, why are we the only.

Cristina: Ones that call ourselves American if they're American? Also, I like, we're on America. They're on America. South America, I guess.

Jack: It wasn't called America yet. None of the continents were called America yet.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Americans were the first to call it America. Yeah. Then we're like, oh, the continent's America. If you're on this dirt, it's America. Ah, okay. Again, I thought it was just people in the country. I don't know. People. They're technically American too, but.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't know how it plays out.

Cristina: Like, you're all. This is a huge group of Americans.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: You think of all the countries.

Jack: I wonder if, like, Canada has. Canada's real. Really? It's weird that they're so similar and so different. Right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because like, they're not a f****** pedo terrorist country. That's like way, way United States territory.

Cristina: Pedos. Yes.

Jack: Terrorist. Pedos.

Cristina: Oh, terrorists, like Russia is a bunch.

Jack: Of terrorist human traffic out the f****** a**.

Cristina: I bet they eat people. Maybe.

Jack: I don't f******. F****** Germany does. I don't f****** know. It's weird. There's weird s*** out there. But they got consent cannibalism. That's weird.

Cristina: That's. Yeah.

Jack: I'll never forget that episode. Consent cannibalism. You guys heard that? We had an episode where that just got dropped in there. Don't know which one. Go look for it.

Cristina: It's somewhere about cannibalism. I'm pretty sure the whole episode was about it.

Jack: Really. It was. It was like Thanksgiving cannibalism or something.

Cristina: Yes, I think so. And then we just somehow. I don't even know how. Okay, so.

Jack: Ok, means you could probably just find that episode through the name if you're curious about it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But no, it's f*****, man. There are a couple of terrorist countries though. Like Russia is definitely a terrorist country. Germany was the leading terrorist country, but is now just good guys. Cuba, pretty heavy terror. Well, it's not. They don't f****** invade people. They're not terrorists. They are terrorizers of their own people.

Cristina: Of their own people.

Jack: They're domestic terrorists. But I mean like people who terrorize other people. United States for sure. Russia, China.

Cristina: Yes, China.

Jack: Middle Eastern countries.

Cristina: Korea counts. I don't know.

Jack: North Korea doesn't invade people.

Cristina: No, but.

Jack: And that kid is trying his best to fix a s***** situation.

Cristina: Yeah, I guess. But I was thinking like people coming into the country or people trying to get out. But that doesn't count.

Jack: That doesn't count. Doesn't count. They have to be actively mobilizing and stepping on other people's dirt and then attacking those people. Yeah, no, and we do that all the time.

Cristina: So it's us, Russia.

Jack: Yeah. Isn't in fact the news this week that we are about to go terrorize the terrorists that are terrorizing the f******. Like we're just finding we're going to war. We're going to another one.

Cristina: Protecting Ukraine. Okay. Because Russia keeps on being weird.

Jack: Russia keeps on keeping on.

Cristina: They keep being weird. Being weird how? Helping. What's that other country? Taiwan.

Jack: Because they have no resources for us. We only help when it's beneficial.

Cristina: That's so.

Jack: And they're not white.

Cristina: Huh?

Jack: Ukrainians are white. They're light skinned.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Oh.

Cristina: That's what they have.

Jack: Taiwanese aren't f****** white. F*** them.

Cristina: They have to have something. Like China wants something from them. They got some resource there.

Jack: Yeah, but the Chinese are Asian too. They're like they're other people. We don't consider the Taiwanese people because they got nothing for us. Oh, my God, that's a lot American logic right there. Okay, we won't attack them. They got nothing. They have way better chance than somebody like Iran. And we're like, no, we're attacking the s*** out of Iran. There's such a danger. It's like there's nothing there but dirt. Yeah, but the oil. I mean, danger.

Cristina: The danger.

Jack: The danger. So what? What danger? We have nukes and tanks.

Cristina: They travel. They hide. They hide very well.

Jack: They got caves. That's horrifying.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: What? Yeah, they hide in caves like bats. Aren't you scared of bats?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: How scary. Ooh, bats. Like. Oh, s***, you're kind of right. I am scared of bats. They hide in caves. You serious?

Cristina: Are they like monks just meditating in those caves?

Jack: No, they're running from our bombs.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: They ran there to survive. That's where the Taliban was hiding until we disappeared. And they were like, wait, they're gone.

Cristina: I guess country now.

Jack: I guess Iraq is another terrorist country. Yeah. Oh, United States, Russia, China.

Cristina: The one that we just left. Because that doesn't count because we made it.

Jack: No, it's still a terrorist country. It's a whole country run by terrorists.

Cristina: But they're not going out of that country. I thought that was part of it. Who are they terrorizing?

Jack: Fair. Hold up. Oh, no. Because also 911 was probably our own doing. Which goes to say what the war on terrorism should have been aimed at ourselves. We were just blaming other people for s*** we did.

Cristina: We're the biggest terrorists.

Jack: We're the biggest terrorists because we mind f*** our own population too. I'm sure Russia does that too. And China does it too. Manipulating news and s*** all the time.

Cristina: And we get to know about that, of course, because it's not us.

Jack: Yes, but our. No, our media sources are legitimate.

Cristina: Who knows? When you go over there, they're like, look at what America does to their people.

Jack: Yo, they probably got the craziest videos that just get completely removed off of our Internet. Just like the President walking outside with a gun and like popping three in the head and being like, I'm Biden. And they just show us Sleepy Joe. You know, I just kind of, sort of, kind of here, whatever. The second those cameras are off, that guy goes, pops, like five people. It's like, I'm America, I'm the country. Meanwhile, they got caught on video, but it never makes it on our Internet. Just gets wiped out instantly. But China got A hold of it because the Internet is global and they were just like, boom. Downloaded on our. And they can't take it off of our side. And then we go over there, we're just hanging out, talking with a politician. They're like, oh, you don't know what happens over there. Here, look at my laptop. The video of Biden just flat out shooting three people.

Cristina: There's no proof of any of it.

Jack: That's crazy how the world works, man. We're just cool with it.

Cristina: What can you do?

Jack: Yeah, what the f***? That's real. Like, that's real. In the case of the kids and the churches stop going definitely in mass.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: On the flip side, if people weren't cowards, it would be way easy to fix any problem. Problem is people are individually scared.

Cristina: The people in Canada are doing it right. They're burning the church.

Jack: Burning the churches. We wouldn't do that because we're a bunch of cowardice b****** and want to say, oh, no, God's not evil by any means. His church is your sacred place. That f*** kids. But the problem is people are individually scared for their own lives.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they wouldn't. This is selfish country. We're not friends in France. People don't give a s*** about their life. They're like, the country must go first. They are true patriots. We pretend patriotism.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They are actually patriots. They will put their life on the line for their beliefs. We'll be like, how horrible that the kids are getting raped and am I f****** torching a church?

Cristina: No, I recording it.

Jack: How many priests have I shot? Not one.

Cristina: No.

Jack: So, like, I'm squeaky clean. But also, those kids are still getting f*****. And that's equally spread across our country. We're just like, yeah, you know, it's happening. What are we gonna do about it?

Cristina: Record it.

Jack: We're gonna aim it. Yeah, we're gonna record it. And that'll solve everything.

Cristina: Yeah. Someone will eventually do something right.

Jack: This. Well, put it on the Internet and the person who isn't scared for their life is gonna come and do something about it.

Cristina: Yeah, Eventually.

Jack: Right, Done.

Cristina: That's it.

Jack: That's the solution right there.

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: I think doesn't work.

Cristina: No, of course that. But that's what they're thinking.

Jack: Think of the George Floyd. This country's too smart, that f****** leaders are overpowered. People are idiots. The whole George Floyd thing, that had so much potential. Yes, a person died, and that sucks. But that led to the opportunity that. It was everywhere. Everybody saw it. That's an Opportunity. Yes, exactly. It's an opportunity to fix the problem. So the people actually mobilized and decided, we're gonna f****** change this country. But you're playing f****** checkers and these guys are playing like Super 8D chess. And they said everything is taboo, right? Everything is wrong. Everything is terrible. Yeah, everything is f*****. It's like think of where it began. It began at the slave traders and the racist military men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're totally f****** right. That's where it began. And you know what? There's statues of that everywhere. You take down those statues, the ideology stops spreading. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's take down the statues. As soon as they did, the problem disappeared. No, it didn't. They just stopped fighting because they thought the problem disappeared. The country is smarter than the people in the country.

Cristina: The country.

Jack: Yeah. The leaders. Oh, God, they will f****** scramble your brain so easily. Now where's all the fighting? Now where's all the protests? Volume turned way the f*** back down?

Cristina: No, I just see signs every once in a while.

Jack: You see what signs?

Cristina: Signs? Yeah, you know, what is it?

Jack: B. Oh, Black lives matter.

Cristina: Yeah. Just the initials.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Does that count?

Jack: They beat the people and they didn't have to do s***. They beat the people with their minds.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: Well, that's. That's. It's crazy easy to do that when you purposely under educate everybody. Nobody knows how to critical think, so you can guide their attention.

Cristina: This is perfect crime.

Jack: This is perfect crime. Well, I made sure they grew up stupid so that if this moment ever came, I could easily divert them. Took them less than a year to stop the f****** problem.

Cristina: Yeah, he's all the smart. I mean, all the ones that they want to be where they're at are going to school for that.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, we made sure to redline long ago so your neighborhood couldn't even afford good education. And all the people who already think like us, they get all the education.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then they rise up to power. And they already came from racist neighborhoods, but those racist neighborhoods had the wealth and red lining. Your district sucks, bro. Your district is garbage. Gets way less money. So you get no education because your district is garbage. Our district. Oh, we're all rich. Our school. Oh, s***. Our tax dollars pay the f*** out of that. Our kids go to that school, they leave. F****** geniuses. Then they become politicians and f*** your life up.

Cristina: More.

Jack: More. Oh, f*** your life. You decided one day to rise up, bro. We got all the education. What are you gonna do, f****** scream at us? Gonna march a little? Yeah, I got Guns. I'm gonna pop you like 10 times just for marching. Which happened a couple of times.

Cristina: It happened. A few times did happen.

Jack: And they're like, oh, you wanna get more riled up? Watch how easy it is if I don't use force. And then, boom. Brainwash all of them. Let's take down the statues. Yeah, take those statues. Yeah, we're taking out the statues. Change is happening. The statues are coming down. Change is happening, bro.

Cristina: Did any police department change?

Jack: Nothing f****** change. We just ended up with January 6th like nothing f****** happened. They lost. Black Lives Matter movement failed the same way Martin Luther King failed. It's just a bunch of s*** failing because they under educate and then they f*** you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: We need rich black people like f****** Jay Z to make a bunch of f****** schools and just put all the black people into schools. Educate them, teach them how to manage money, teach them civics. Stop. Just f******. I got a f****** mansion. F*** your mansion.

Cristina: Talking about has that plan.

Jack: Same thing. F****** come. Don't make a country in West Bubba. F***. Save your f****** grounds where you came from.

Cristina: He's doing that. I think he's making it in here.

Jack: He is. He should. That should be the goal. He should be taking little boys and girls into private school where they're gonna get taught economics, they're gonna get taught business management, they're gonna get taught civics.

Cristina: They'Re gonna get caught. Ta ta poly. Jesus, too.

Jack: Religion's a weird one because it's not critical thought. Nah, that's the kind of s*** that's gonna f*** up the message because you're gonna teach them to believe in something super, then it's gonna. F***. They're gonna lean on supernatural s*** when they can't find a solution instead of trying harder to get it. Mmm, that's problematic, I think. All these rich black people who talk about it was so f****** hard. Throw all your money over here. You living the life, my n****. Get that s*** out of there. You living that life.

Cristina: Help.

Jack: Help. You can't just be like, oh, it was hard when I was growing up. Well, you know, it was hard. Why the f*** are you in a mansion right now? Just buy a s***** house. You don't need a mansion.

Cristina: You don't.

Jack: You don't need a mansion. Just have the appropriate amount of space you need and not a bunch of. You don't need a f****** million dollar car. For what? You can get the same. You don't even drive. You just have to look at it. Somebody drives you everywhere. Yeah, so like, come on. Why do you have all this s***? People need to be educated. So that s*** like the black Lives Matter being easily derailed and then totally discarded and disappearing into the background, allowing for a bunch of morons on January 6th to make crazy moves to not be a thing that needs to. That f****** thing that happened is ridiculous.

Cristina: Thing from January 6th.

Jack: Oh, that's the insurrection.

Cristina: Yes. Now I. Yeah, now I remember for. When you first said it, I was very confused about it, but now I got.

Jack: This is insurrection. It's the fact that we easily distracted a bunch of people, but we didn't have the capacity to this. These guys aren't educated themselves. They're also idiots, but they just have enough more that we couldn't derail them. They went in privacy. They're like, oh, look, why we're gonna put it out there? If we could do this in secrecy and then come out. This is the f******. And the fact that they're white. Already gave them a crazy pass to get that close before anybody was like, oh, s***, I think it's dangerous. Oh, yeah, it might be dangerous. Should we stop them? Well, we'll wait. Wait and see what happens first.

Cristina: Crazy. Like, people probably brought in guns. I don't think anyone used any, but still, there was probably weapons in the White House.

Jack: It probably was like. No, there were different weapons, but, like, weapons who were civilian.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Oh, s***. That's probably in there. Probably never told us.

Cristina: Yeah, but it was probably pretty crazy.

Jack: Probably caught a couple, too.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: It's f*****, man.

Cristina: It is. What?

Jack: I don't know, bro. S*** be cray cray and I don't understand. I don't f****** get it, man.

Cristina: How this country sounds great. It's not that great. It's that great. I don't know.

Jack: It's greatest country in the world.

Cristina: It's the greatest country.

Jack: With everything we've just said, it's the greatest. It's the greatest country in the world.

Cristina: It has to be.

Jack: I don't know. Your opportunity to do anything makes it that way. Makes it. It's. It's just knowledge. That's all it is. Realistically, if teachers were really just looking to educate rather than have summers off, because let's be real, that's like the majority of people leaning into it. Get summers off, do nothing. If it wasn't that. That's the motivation half the time, Even if your school is underfunded, all you have to do is get. Is teach somebody how to learn. Don't teach them material to learn. Teach them how to learn. A way to learn. Anything they ever encounter and the curiosity to want to know more about anything they ever encounter. You teach them that. You don't need any level of education. You don't need to be a great teacher because that made you a great teacher. You don't need to know s*** about anything. You don't need a f****** textbook in your hand. Your class could be nothing but that one thing, and that person will go and become the Lil Wayne of the world, the Jay Z of the. You get informed and you learn how to work with everything. And then you make your way. You find the people, you learn how to network. Not just, oh, I don't know that person, because that's some hood a** mentality. Don't trust him. How many people go to a seminar? I was actually having this conversation about that same problem. Seminars, seminars, seminars. Such a. No, Seminars are a good thing.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: People's approach to a seminar is a problem because part of hustle culture. Hustle, hustle culture, blah, blah, blah. They're part of hustle culture. And the idea is, if I'm not making money off of it and if I'm not getting paid to do it, I'm not gonna do it.

Cristina: They're not going to the seminar.

Jack: That applies to anything. So the conversation took place now. I don't need to say a name. It was just, you know, somebody I know, we're talking, and they were talking about going to a seminar. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Where is it? Slow or some s***? Yeah, you know, gonna go. It's a. What the h*** was it? Not business management. It was about business. Something about business.

Cristina: It's like business related.

Jack: Business related. Some seminar about business or whatever. F***. And he was like, yeah, I invite a bunch of people. Nobody ever comes. I'm like, what do you mean? Which I know, but I wasn't thinking about it in a moment. What the f*** do you mean? He's like, yeah, but people in general don't go to seminars. Yeah, it's kind of weird. I've been to many seminars in my life. I was a weird kid. I venture into places and check s*** out. Yeah, there aren't people in there. But like, that's weird because it's free information half the time. Some of them you got to pay for. But the person I was talking to doesn't pay for seminars. They just go to free ones. Anytime there's a free one, they sign up and they go, that's awesome. That's how you get information.

Cristina: Awesome.

Jack: Yeah, you get the people who Made it tell you. And you don't have to accept 100% of their information. Yeah, all information is good information. And you take what matters.

Cristina: That sounds so fun. Okay.

Jack: Way logical.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just gather information, become smarter.

Cristina: You think more people should go though, too?

Jack: If you. If you get people curious to want to learn things like that, they will just go do. Because it's more information. I'll learn about the thing. It's free. It's more information. You got to get people excited to learn. But because teachers just want to have the f****** summer off, they're like one, two. You don't really give a s*** about teaching, bro. If you really gave a s*** about teaching, you wouldn't complain about f****** supplies for school.

Cristina: Just want the money. So they raised the kids that now just want the money. Yeah, they don't want it for free. The people who don't want to go to seminars want money.

Jack: Oh, yeah. But they're also never going to get the money because you didn't go to the seminar. Isn't that weird?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You got to go to the seminar to get the knowledge that allow you to do the thing that will get you the money. But you're not going to go to the seminar because the seminar is wasting your time, according to you, and you're not getting money from the seminar.

Cristina: It's a weird loop.

Jack: Yeah, you just box yourself because you don't think learning these things are useful. But all information is useful.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And so we had like, a pretty lengthy discussion about. The problem is people aren't taught to teach. Aren't taught to learn. You don't get taught to learn. You just get taught you all. Here's f****** numbers.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Here's English and here's some f****** science. It's great. Okay, good. You learned what's in a book. You memorize things.

Cristina: It's weird to blame the teachers, but the teachers were taught by teachers who taught by teachers.

Jack: Yeah. Nobody's taught how to critical think. So. Nobody works. Nobody thinks their way out of the box.

Cristina: Yeah. So like, how do you solve that?

Jack: That's a f****** problem. There's no solution to it, right?

Cristina: No. Because if you're being taught that already, how are you gonna break that cycle? Unless some random person, I guess, teaches you. Unless they're hearing you right now, I guess these teachers.

Jack: I went to the same schools. Why the f*** did I avoid 100% of the already worn down path and just actively live a life in which I do whatever the f*** I want, whenever the f*** I want, however the f*** I want in any way, with zero responsibilities or obligations. I made those choices. I got curious, informed myself. Nobody taught me how to learn.

Cristina: You just enjoyed learning.

Jack: I just enjoyed learning.

Cristina: I don't know. Because no one else seems to enjoy learning. Is that what's happening? I don't.

Jack: I must have. I don't know. It can't be inherent. I must have learned to like learning somehow.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And whatever triggered that. Yeah, whatever triggered that. That's what we need to give everybody else.

Cristina: Yeah. That has to be the way someone had to. Like, how would you have. Why would you be the only person that.

Jack: Right, exactly. It doesn't make any sense.

Jack: And like, for. I have friends who are the total opposite and, like, definitely have way more intellectual capacity and don't care about learning anything. You know exactly who I'm talking about, right?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. And like, doesn't give a s*** about learning the slightest shred of information if it's not gonna be applied in the moment. He only learns what is useful at the moment and that's it.

Cristina: He has all the information he needs. Yeah.

Jack: No, he doesn't have any information. He has all the reasoning.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And he's a literal, on paper genius and has all the reasoning. He needs to use the bare minimum information to make anything f*** work. And so he just gets the bare minimum. Doesn't bother with the rest of it. It was like, hey, I need to ask you a question. Does. And then instantaneously found the solution because I gave him what he needed.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: He doesn't give a s*** about learning.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Never gave a f***. But he's cheating, obviously, because he's a f****** genius.

Cristina: He's a special case. That's unfair.

Jack: He's an actual genius. That's definitely an unfair situation. But I don't know, man. People need to be taught how to learn, and that does not happen.

Cristina: No.

Jack: In today's society.

Cristina: Yeah. Teach teachers how to have fun teaching, man.

Jack: Yeah. Especially when the. There's the teachers who just print out some pages, put it on your desk, and like, f****** shut up and do it. It's like, get out of the building, bro. Leave.

Cristina: Is that their fault? Is that what they're.

Jack: You're not even trying at that point.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: No, that's so far to the other side. No. Get the f*** out of the building. You are no longer allowed in here.

Cristina: That sounds like a lot of substitute teachers, dude.

Jack: Substitute teachers need to learn how to do their s*** too. I've had substitute teachers that are exciting.

Cristina: Yeah, I've had. Yeah.

Jack: And I'VE had substitute teachers that just give you a sheet. Shut the f*** up.

Cristina: It's like, two extremes, but that feels like those are the only two that there are.

Jack: Yeah. My favorite teacher was an English teacher and never taught me a f****** word of English because he would make sure to put. And he would always start with, like, Shakespeare put on the board.

Cristina: Okay, so he at least got you reading some books.

Jack: You never got to the book. Not a single time. He would put, like, some Shakespeare quote and just ask some really philosophic question about, like, what's the morality of the sentence? Or what is it? It's the English class. I don't know the f*** we're talking about lds. But he'll pose a question and wait. You got five minutes.

Cristina: If those questions were based on whatever story he was writing down on the board.

Jack: No, he was just off the top of his head.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: He was just asking something that trigger thought in everybody. And then he would be like, you got five minutes. First one to answer gets engaged or whatever. F***. And then that's a conversation that derails the class entirely. We don't get back to it. But the subject of the philosophy or the sociology or the psychology, that became the topic, then becomes the whole hour.

Cristina: How do you get tested in that type of class? Or there's no tests.

Jack: I don't know how he was buffing the system. I have no idea how he was working around that, because he wouldn't give a s***. I knew crap in that class all year, but I left knowing more than every other class because he taught me how to think.

Cristina: But there's no test.

Jack: No test. I never took one test.

Cristina: Wow.

Jack: He was probably faking the numbers or something. But I left way smarter because he would just sit there and have conversations with us. He would let anything goes.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And he would let people cut in that class. They could cut their own class in that class. But if you're gonna sit in the back, guys, shut the f*** up. You can't disturb, or you got to get out.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And if you're gonna be in the front, you have to do the work.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Even if you're not in the class, you join the class. If you're gonna be in the front, you join the class. If you're gonna be in the back, shut the f*** up. And don't distract anybody. If you distract anybody, get out.

Cristina: That's crazy. Taking in kids that.

Jack: I mean, he prefers them be here than cause trouble.

Cristina: Yeah. Wow.

Jack: Just way rational teacher. Yeah. It was so weird and, like, abstract and, like, totally unconventional, but every single day, you leave no understanding. So many perspectives because people get sucked in little by little. Somebody who doesn't even want to talk and is in the back paying attention, their ear gets caught because of some topic. It's an hour long. You know, somebody's gonna say something.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That catches your attention. They're like, oh, hold on, let me listen a couple. Five minutes of listening. You get up, you get to one of the chairs that's a little closer. Okay, this is interesting. Give or take 10 more minutes. Exactly. Give or take 10 minutes. Your hand is up. You're like, no, that. I don't agree with that. My hand is up. I'm. Nope. This is my say now. And before long, the whole class, even the people who don't belong in the class, are just discussing philosophy, psychology, sociology.

Cristina: Were you participating, like, every class that you had?

Jack: Yeah, I was pretty much derailing. I was. I was usually the guy who would immediately have an answer.

Cristina: Sometimes somebody else had. Every day.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah. I had that class every day for six months.

Cristina: Well, it was a great class.

Jack: I never took one test. I never opened a single textbook. We had a textbook. Never touched it.

Cristina: No little books to read or whatever.

Jack: Nope, nope, nope. There was never more than a single sentence discussed throughout the entire class.

Cristina: That's crazy. That is so crazy.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: He's still a teacher.

Jack: I don't know. I know that everybody pass. And every single person who took that class to day. To this day, I consider some of the most intellectual people I've ever met.

Cristina: Can you still talk to them the way you could talk to in the class?

Jack: Actually, the only people I can talk to freely, the way I usually talk with, like you, outside of microphone or whatever, are the people who are in that class. They were enlightened in such a way that made them able to hear an opposing thought that they don't agree with or don't even believe in and can.

Cristina: Just handle it and not die inside.

Jack: Yeah, they understand. They're mature enough to understand different perspective without exploding.

Cristina: Some people come to you for that different perspective.

Jack: Yes. Well, that's different because I am a f****** nerd and I read everything and, like, yeah, for this we're having conversations and I'm telling them about my work and how we engage with, you know, extraterrestrials and do all our things or whatever it is we do. But that is all practical in a normal person's life. What that all that information that I've collected is practical in a normal person's Life. Because it's just more information.

Cristina: Yep. Why is it weird that when you're not working for the Illuminati, you're a life coach?

Jack: Kind of. Isn't that weird? I guess that is weird.

Cristina: There's two jobs. You wouldn't think.

Jack: But it isn't a job. Is this like, I'll get a text message and like, hey, I need, I need somebody to bounce some thoughts off of. And I know you're the right person because you're just gonna f******. You can be devil's advocate regardless of what side I'm coming from. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I need some perspective. And you are the guy who is unflinchingly on the opposition. Like. Yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And so it's useful. A lot of I've within my circle become well known as that guy. The guy who stands nowhere and thus is great to put him in any side.

Cristina: Yes. That's awesome.

Jack: But that doesn't get taught.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And then we're left with a bunch of snow flaky, lefty, whiny b******. Male or female? I wasn't discussing gender. And if you thought female when I said that, oh, you got a low self esteem, buddy. If I said b****** and they just thought, oh my God, he's talking s*** about women. And I never said women because guys can be b******.

Cristina: Everyone's assuming everything about everyone.

Jack: Yes. And I'm sure throughout the course of this conversation they have assumed so much about what I'm saying at any given moment. But the problem is I don't give a f*** about anybody's opinion because I know what I mean. And that's what defuses the left. If I don't care, and I'm not scared of you, then what do you have? Yeah, if I'm scared that you're gonna cancel my career, you can slander my name. I slander my name. I'm a f****** killer. I've destroyed entire g****** planets. I've committed genocide. I've enslaved entire races. F*** with me.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Next f****** I'm gonna grab is all those blue haired b****** and put them on Mars. F****** run all the experiments.

Cristina: No reason to do that, but I can. Yeah.

Jack: And I have a f****** army to do it with me and. What army? The f****** subhumans. That army.

Cristina: That's a waste of time though.

Jack: But it's funny, can you imagine they just get put up there with Reptilians, that is.

Cristina: Oh, no.

Jack: Oh, some of the monsters we have. Oh, just some fat, overweight, blue haired Idiot who just keeps complaining about the word zed next to a f****** shape shifting reptile and a wet shot just waiting to rip its head off.

Cristina: We could just send one cockroach person to their houses.

Jack: We're not sending my wife over there.

Cristina: Is she the only one left?

Jack: That's the only one I've seen since I destroyed that planet.

Cristina: Oh crap.

Jack: I'm sure there were others out there. But why would they know to come to Earth?

Cristina: They're probably all dead. You mean like some that are outside.

Jack: In space when it blew up? Yeah, some. They were already venturing elsewhere.

Cristina: Oh crap. What are they gonna do? Maybe they just run away.

Jack: They probably got to Mars, saw s*** is not how they left it, and are like, let's just keep moving crap.

Cristina: So your wife is the only one though, as far as we can know.

Jack: Yeah. The only one left, as far as I know.

Cristina: Yeah. Whoa.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's f***** up. I apologize to her for destroying her entire race and committing the most exaggerated level of genocide ever known to a human kind or any life form as far as we know.

Cristina: Does she care? And does she eat trash?

Jack: No and yes.

Cristina: Okay. Just want to know what her diet's like.

Jack: Anything.

Cristina: Alright. Just whatever dead stuff.

Jack: Sometimes she just goes to Mars and eats whatever's just left when like a f****** somebody we're interrogating just dies. He's not going to have it. Yeah, whatever.

Cristina: That's horrifying. Would you watch that?

Jack: I have.

Cristina: It's hot. Scary. So scary.

Jack: Watch a giant cockroach eat like a dead reptilian. Oh, steamy night. So exciting. I can't wait to plug her like roach hole.

Cristina: Do cockroaches have holes? Like what does that look like?

Jack: For the purposes of this conversation and the fact that I haven't the slightest clue what the answer to that is, I must say she has a perfectly normal human like v*****. Except she's a giant cockroach.

Cristina: Ew, that's even worse.

Jack: I don't know, it somehow is, but I couldn't fathom what would really be there. So the answer to this question, and I'm officializing it as canon, is she has a human v*****. She has a human v*****.

Cristina: Why would there be a human?

Jack: But it's textured like a cockroach. So it's the same structure but made out of the exoskeleton.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So it's so it's not soft and moist, it's like rough and hard.

Cristina: Okay. So it doesn't look that alien. Yeah, because it Would be way more alien if it actually looked like a human.

Jack: Just like everything else is exoskeleton and then just skin.

Cristina: Yes, that would be disturbing, but okay. Human roach.

Jack: Yeah. So the solution here is we're going to capture the entire left, not the.

Cristina: We're not gonna fix the problem with China or Russia. Why let that happen?

Jack: Why? This has nothing to do with us. I'm just annoyed by the left. They're like, whatever. There's a bunch of terrorist countries. We're gonna f******, like, whatever. But, no.

Cristina: No. Ourselves.

Jack: Nah. Why?

Cristina: I guess stopping those women is stopping ourselves. That's part of the problem.

Jack: We're stopping annoyances.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. That's pretty much all I care about. She's like, f*** it. Let the f****** Russians take over. I don't care. It's, like, not my business. I don't care.

Cristina: It's not my business.

Jack: Yeah. It's not our jobs. Whatever we get. No matter what the f*** happens, we're okay.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We work for the Illuminati. What the f*** is Russia gonna do? You guys are in that country, and if I. If they so much as harm a hair on us, that country ceases to exist. Come on. So, like, we're fine. Russian decides, smack me. I will walk up to Vladimir Putin and be like, smack me once. Tell me if you still have a country tomorrow when f****** Illuminati rains down h*** on you. Just hit me once, just casually.

Cristina: But if he also works in the Illuminati, like, where is this? Really?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: How many people are we above? Like, we're not above the queen.

Jack: No. But she's way up there.

Jack: Queen's above us by miles.

Cristina: We're above many other leaders.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's crazy.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah.

Cristina: How many? All of them.

Jack: All of them except the Pope and the queen.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay, what about, like, billionaires? They don't count, do they?

Jack: Like, billionaires are b******. They do whatever f*** we want.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: How do the f*** you think we got Elon Musk to be so productive and already established several space colonies that didn't allow us to travel space so.

Cristina: Easily with our, I don't know, AR bodies or whatever's happening with that. What then? We have, like, bodies going into space that we're controlling from over here. Kind of like the Avatar movie. That's not happening yet.

Jack: I mean, I'm assuming that's the thing. But, like, we have subhumans. Why the f*** would we need that?

Cristina: I don't know. Just a few, what it looks like.

Jack: But no we travel up there all the time. We go to Mars regularly. It's not like a.

Cristina: But we're not traveling to the home.

Jack: To the great void. Yeah, yeah. But also like, we're sending a crap ton of subhumans that way.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So like, whatever. They'll come back with answers. But yeah, so we're gonna. I guess that's the plan now. Capture all the lefty snowflakes and just drop them off on Mars. There's nothing to interrogate.

Cristina: We couldn't.

Jack: Yes, we can just use them like goats in a Jurassic park, you know, you bring in the goat, you give it to the f******. To the raptor.

Cristina: What is the raptor in our. What are we giving them to?

Jack: To the creatures that we have trapped up there.

Cristina: Okay. Yes, yes.

Jack: So you just take all these f****** snowflakey jackasses, take them to Mars and just like feed them occasionally to one of these.

Cristina: What? Yes. That's the way to do it.

Jack: Yeah. They're live.

Cristina: Have we been feeding them? We must have been feeding them, though.

Jack: We have been feeding them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know, we've been feeding them subhumans. They volunteer. They volunteer. We say they need to eat. You guys are here. Who's doing it? And then they just like me. I'm the noble one right now. I am. I am the patriot. And then they just walk in. It's like, I'm ready. Simple.

Cristina: That's ridiculous.

Jack: Also, I just remembered a piece of canon.

Cristina: What?

Jack: All the subhumans are women.

Cristina: Oh, my God.

Jack: We established that all the subhumans are women because the Chinese don't want their women.

Cristina: No, but then we brought it here, so there's got to be some men.

Jack: No, no, not as much. We didn't bring s*** here.

Cristina: I thought we did.

Jack: No, we didn't establish that.

Cristina: I thought we.

Jack: That's why we get them from China.

Cristina: Yes, I know.

Jack: We proposed a solution, but nobody applies it here.

Cristina: Oh, I thought we do. Really? We don't know.

Jack: We get. We clone people. We will sooner clone somebody than like f****** not abort.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: When we could just not abort and have more people.

Cristina: Oh, so it's just.

Jack: It's just China.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That's why they're all women, which is a hundred percent triggering somebody.

Cristina: That wasn't our fault.

Jack: That wasn't our fault.

Cristina: China clone. I mean, abort their babies, their baby girls.

Jack: Yeah, I know that in a couple of days we are sending people because the day is coming. It's finally here. We've been waiting for this moment.

Cristina: Yes. Oh, the Problem is though, like, how do we know which groundhog is the groundhog God?

Jack: Because we went to the same. Went to the same. We're assuming it's Phil.

Cristina: Exactly. But there's like three groundhogs in that place where he's from that tell the weather. Yes. He's just one of them.

Jack: We have enough people to watch all of them.

Cristina: To watch all three of them.

Jack: We have millions, actually. Literally billions. We have literally billions.

Cristina: Okay. Because there's just three in that area.

Jack: We could just send five sub humans anywhere.

Cristina: But then there's like all over the country there's groundhogs that tell the weather and then there's even Canada who started.

Jack: I think they haven't just different animals and stuff. Like really, really. We're after this one. He's the one. We're assuming he's the one. And then we already checked the hole. Yes, Phil, and we already checked the hole that he comes out of and he's not there.

Cristina: No, because they don't put him there. They have him somewhere else. We don't go to that place where they have him.

Jack: I don't think the stories they tell people are true. Are. What is going on?

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I think he lives in a mansion. He teleports there. Oh, through the hole.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: From wherever he's coming from.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: What you think he teleports?

Jack: He's not there. And I don't think he. That they have him. We would have been told about that. People get told that.

Cristina: Yeah, people get told.

Jack: People get told that. But our people have not found that to be true.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So.

Cristina: Yeah, interesting.

Jack: Yes. Anywho, we are way out of time, way over time and yeah. So I hope you people are in agreement that these lefty retards, the blue haired cancel culture, are really gay. Are really gay, Very retarded, very retarded, very, very gay. Usually overweight. I don't know why that's a feature. That's just some s*** that happens, I guess. They spend so much time on the Internet just b******* that they don't like really get their exercise, which makes them great meat to give to the people on Mars and easier to identify in public too, so it's easier to capture them. Yeah, it's all, it's all works out. Anyways, I hope you guys agree that we should get rid of them and feed them to the Reptilians and other. And if you guys want to find out about other things that we've discussed here, you can find a bunch of that. The Groundhog. That's happening soon.

Cristina: The cannibalism.

Jack: Cannibalism. Go look at that something. Cannibalism. Thanksgiving. Cannibalism. Real cannibalism. This cannibalism is probably in the name.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And yeah. So you can find all that stuff at the official website. Great thoughts.info or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcast.

Cristina: You can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok @justconvopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Leave us a beautiful review with maybe a groundhog. No, not a groundhog. That was like the bare minimum of this. Put us a lefty snowflake. Put a snowflake. An arrow aiming left on a snowflake.

Cristina: Oh, nice.

Jack: Ooh, yeah. Make those emojis for this episode and.

Cristina: Let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes, word of mouth. Tell everybody that the purge of the blue haired snowflakes is coming and get ready to just see them disappear. Don't go out there and do anything. We're gonna do it. We're gonna get rid of all of them. All at the same time. Capture them. We're not gonna harm them.

Cristina: We're gonna be heroes.

Jack: We're gonna be heroes. Put them all in cages, take them all off of the planet. And it's just gonna get real quiet and happy. He's so quiet and happy.

Cristina: Peace on Earth.

Jack: It's gonna be Utopia. If we're gonna figure out at that moment that we were just all really annoyed that they were around, but as a planet and we were just gonna kill each other because these annoying retards who are totally gay.

Cristina: It's gonna be like 10 of them.

Jack: That's the craziest part. It's just like a couple of idiots. Yeah, it really is. There's not gonna be any. Just really, really loud few.

Cristina: Yeah, they just make multiple accounts and stuff.

Jack: They probably do. And then the problem is those people are so easy to troll. I get blocked by them all the time because I hate their sensitive emo nerves. They're like, oh, my God, my feelings. And it's like, well, if you can talk to me, if you want, we can have that conversation. You're gonna survive it, but we can have it.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening by.

Jack: Why do we put the poop in the ground? That's like a baby poop wants to.

Cristina: Be in the ground.

Jack: Poo doesn't want to be in the ground.

Cristina: Yes, it does. Animals poop on the ground because they know that's where they want it wants to be. Nah, it's in nature.

Jack: And when a dog eats poo, it's like it's eating its puppy.

Cristina: Yes. That's. No. That's a slow dog, though.

Jack: Why is that a slow dog?

Cristina: Dogs should not be eating their poop.

Jack: Should they be eating their babies? Their puppies? That's not a slow dog.

Cristina: That's definitely a slow dog, too, I guess.

Jack: Okay, fair.

Cristina: Either case, it's. It's bad.

Jack: Baby eating is wrong.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: In either case.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Whether it's poo or fleshy.

Cristina: But poo should be on the ground.

Jack: No. You're making choices for poo without asking.

Cristina: Poo poo's body, you have to compare it to nature. And in nature.

Jack: Pooh'S body, poo's choice.

Cristina: In nature, poo enjoys being on the ground.

Jack: You don't know this.

Cristina: Yes. All the animals agree to it.

Jack: Yeah, but they didn't ask the poo.

Cristina: And how are you gonna talk to this poo?

Jack: Well, we need to invent poo communication technology.

Cristina: That sounds ridiculous. That sounds like a lot of work for nothing.

Jack: Poo needs rights, and we will fight for those rights.

Cristina: And what do we do once we have those rights? Once they have the rights.

Jack: Don't know what to tell you.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo, and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 154: Is Gender A Fact

Is Gender a Fact? Where does gender come from? Who has a right to speak for transgender people? Is Toxic Feminism the same as functional Feminism? The duo jump into the topic of gender, with Jack on a stream of consciousness rant about toxic feminism and how its abused to enforce racist ideology and sexist perspectives in society.

Rambling 154: Is Gender A Fact

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Ben Shapiro
  • Gender vs Sex
  • Gender is Based on Sex
  • Female Supremacist
  • Transgender Issues
  • Gender Roles
  • Gender is Cultural
  • Labels are the Problem
  • Hispanics and Blacks are LGBT+?
  • Intention Matters

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to the Just Conversation Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.

Jack: Yes. So be sure to find somebody to sit next to you and get ready for the h*** of a ride that you're about to go on. And hopefully, if you are a person who stands firmly on the political right, then you choose somebody from the political left. And if you're politically left, you choose somebody on the political right so that we can choose truly dive in.

Cristina: The people in the middle.

Jack: F*** them.

Cristina: Aww.

Jack: They don't matter.

Cristina: They don't matter. This episode. Okay?

Jack: They don't matter, people, because centrists who identify as centrist on all topics are ridiculous. Because there's just some topics that doesn't make sense.

Cristina: That doesn't make sense.

Jack: Like, you know, George Floyd wasn't armed and, like, he was killed after he was screaming that he couldn't breathe and at some point started hallucinating and seeing his mother. Well, no, I'm in the center of the problem, you know, because if both sides have a solid argument, like, mmm, maybe this is the wrong time to be in the middle, because one side of this is ridiculous.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But then other times, it's like, well, Trump is a hero. No, he's a monster. Well, that's a centrist position to take. He. He did good. He did bad.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: People who are objectively at all times centrist, regardless of what's confronted. Well, there's always. No, not always.

Cristina: Not always.

Jack: Not always. A lot of the time there's a clear cut way, but not always.

Cristina: But sometimes we could make that clear cut way.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, we can. We can point towards the middle and be like, this is how you cut right between the two points.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which we often do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But probably not today, because today we got the. The big topic. We got the problem topic. The one that gets us canceled.

Cristina: This is the one. I thought the last one was the one. This is the one, though.

Jack: This is the one that gets us canceled.

Cristina: Yeah, Yeah.

Jack: I mean, fair enough. I have no idea how we haven't been canceled yet. Maybe somebody's trying to cancel Us, but, like, we don't pay attention to social media, so we don't respond to anything.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So, like, maybe somebody's trying to cancel us, but this is an independent private company that does whatever the f*** it wants and doesn't rely on anybody's money because it's f****** internally funded. So, like, the f*** are you going to do? Steal our bank account information and f****** get that canceled? I don't know, bro. I don't know what to tell you if you're trying to cancel us, other than I'm not paying attention. So I'm sorry.

Cristina: Yeah, like.

Jack: Like, I wish I would have been paying attention so you could have canceled me and got in your way, I guess.

Cristina: You want to be canceled.

Jack: I want everybody to have the best outcome for their lives. And if they've been trying to cancel us and it has failed because we don't have anybody paying attention to the social media other than posting s***, and we don't respond to emails, we don't, like, interact with this show outside of making it, then, like. Like, I. I don't know what to tell you guys. Like, I'm sorry.

Cristina: Try harder.

Jack: Try harder. Like, I don't know, bro. Like, people get death threats all the time, and it's like, if you sent us death threats, I'd have no f****** clue. There'd be no way for me to know because I haven't seen an email in, like, seven years.

Cristina: What?

Jack: So, like, where are you sending this to?

Cristina: They're mailing it to the Illuminati headquarters, I guess. I think they have address. I'm sure there' physical place.

Jack: There's probably some, like, these Instagram people who claim to be from the.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: They probably got some address.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know, hey, if you want to.

Cristina: Join the Illuminator, your email is over there.

Jack: Right. They're just like, what the is it gonna do if we don't send it to him? Nothing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then I never see it. It's a problem. It's hard to cancel us because we don't care enough. Yeah, like, what are you gonna do? Destroy our livelihood? Does it seem like I have a life you gonna destroy? I'm trapped in this room with a ghost in the system. We're stuck here until there's some sort of mission to do or some crap I don't even know, man.

Cristina: But we still work like humans, right? Like, we still need the bathroom. We still need to eat.

Jack: Never thought about it.

Cristina: We definitely still need water.

Jack: Maybe.

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: I don't know.

Cristina: Like, we're still Pretty human. Even though we're clones.

Jack: Maybe. But look, today is the big one. Today is the one that's gonna get us canceled. Maybe. Probably not. Let's be real. It doesn't matter what you guys think. But today we're discussing gender. This was the. The most intentional subject thus far because I was just listening to Ben Shapiro talk about it, and I was like, s***, you got a point, he's got point. F***. I'm usually like, look, I. I understand the division of sex and gender, and I agree with it. They are two different things. But to say one isn't based on the other is a f****** problem. That's where the lie comes in.

Cristina: That's where the lie comes in.

Jack: That's where the lie comes in. Because, yes, we constructed gender.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We constructed it based. Based on sex.

Cristina: On something else.

Jack: Yeah, that's the problem. And now that used to be my stance, that sex and gender are tied together, even if I'm aware of the difference of gender from sex. And I completely agree that those are two different things. And I forgot that they're connected in continuously having to defend against people who exclusively say they're the same thing, because that's wrong too. They're not the same thing. One is based on the other.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But they're not the same thing. There are two different words because they are two different things.

Cristina: But how has this changed what you thought?

Jack: Well, I. It didn't. It just sent me back to what I was thinking before because I forgot about it. And continuously defending against people who have no idea what the difference between sex and gender is, and assuming they're the same thing, me having to continuously reinforce the fact that they're not the same thing. I forgot the link that one is based on the other, because I'm like, this is why they're different. This is why they're different. This over and over and over and over to the point that I forgot why they're the same. Or not forgot, but I forgot that they're the same in the same way. That they're different.

Cristina: And why is that important, though?

Jack: Because it. We have two camps of thought right now, and it is. Isn't even a political difference, because we have, for example, Ben Shapiro and Dave Chappelle, who come from political opposites. One is a leftist Democratic progressive, and the other is a conservative Republican right wing follower. And so we got these two people agreeing on gender being based on sex.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they're not saying by any means that gender is sex. They agree there's a difference, but they are also stating that gender is based on sex. And then the trans defenders get riled up. Now I have. The reason I use trans defenders is because of a simple, very clear detail.

Cristina: What makes them different from just a regular trans.

Jack: Yeah, my trans friends agree with my point of view. Not the trans defenders, who are usually these psychotic women who claim to be feminists and really aren't. They're just like this female superiority people. They got the superiority complex of, well, I should have a right man. I was having a conversation with this lady, right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And we were actually talking about trans things or whatever.

Cristina: She's a trans defender.

Jack: She's a trans offender. She claims to be a feminist. And I explained to her what a female supremacist is, which is a female who believes that her voice supersedes everybody's voice, no matter what the case might be, rather than a feminist who believes that female and men are equal, the men and women are equal, or I guess females and males are equal. Female supremacist believes that objectively, females should, like they do, already have the answer for everything. And in this conversation, she proceeds to say, well, I don't listen to cisgendered people about trans issues. I only listen to LGBT members. To which I proceeded to say, well, I don't listen to the opinions of anybody who isn't transgender on gender issues because they have no personal experience to make any judgment call at all. And she got so f****** offended that I told her, you're not trans to make choices or voice any trans beliefs. You don't have the experience. You don't know what it is to be treated like s***, to fear for your life because of simply, you're. You feel a different way, and people just don't understand that.

Cristina: But I don't. Like, what is exactly the difference between what you said to her and what she said to you?

Jack: In what she said to me, she believes she does get to speak.

Cristina: Okay, she's speaking.

Jack: She's saying all gay people speak for trans people.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: But it's like, it's not the same thing. Some trans people are just straight.

Cristina: Yeah, they're just straight.

Jack: So what the f*** are you talking about?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Should we even say they're part of lgbt? If she feels woman and she likes men. If she feels woman and she likes men, that's just a straight woman.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So you're not listening to her opinion either?

Cristina: Oh, did you ask that? No.

Jack: Her argument was stupid to begin with. It's like, I only listened to. Well, LGBT members aren't just Objectively, all trans people. Yeah, only trans people get to speak for trans rights and issues and ideas and philosophies. And you are not trans. And you don't get to make that call. And I don't give a how offended you get. I don't give a how bothered you get. I don't give a if you try to cancel me because you don't get a say. I don't get a say? You are right. Also, you don't get a say. Nobody but the trans people get to say how the trans people feel. If a trans person, like some of my personal trans friends, I. I have a questionable amount of gay friends and trans friends. I get it. It's like, oh, man, you sure you're not leaning somewhere? It's like, I get that it's a questionable amount of people in my circle who are not straight necessarily, but they side with my. At least the trans people side with my belief that, yeah, one is based on the other. Because the argument that they make that I also side with is, if there is no difference between man and woman, why would I say I feel like a woman if I was born male? It's like, yeah, I see where the f*** you're coming from. You're right. You're right. It totally makes sense. I get your f****** argument. That makes perfect sense to me that there has to be a difference.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And thus it's based in something that you are claiming. Woman, because woman is tied to female.

Cristina: Yes. And someone is saying that they're not the same.

Jack: The trans offenders are saying that these concepts are not tied together at all. But females do female do womenly things, and then a trans person who claims to be woman does things that females that claim to be women do.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Thus you've just subscribed to the female gender role of woman. My trans friends agree with this, which is, I feel like a woman because I do not identify with feeling like a man. And so I do things that females would do. And, like, okay, I get your idea. But then who the f*** are these other people out here who are saying some other s*** contrary to you? Who's living the experience?

Jack: And it's like, I don't. Who. Who the f*** are these people? They're not you. You're the f****** one telling me what you believe, and you're living it. So why the f*** are they the ones that are being really loud and making the statements that everybody else is listening to that's objectively wrong if they're not living the experience? The argument here Is trans. People who subscribe to either gender of female or male or male, or I guess not gender, but of woman and man are claiming that female and male.

Cristina: Are real things, are connected to male and woman.

Jack: To man and woman. Yeah, okay, they're saying that sex and gender are related. Anybody who isn't subscribing to those two.

Cristina: People change their sex to match their gender.

Jack: Because if it was just I claim I'm a woman, but I do all things that male does. Now we have a different ideology. You're complicated in a different way. You don't apply to what we're talking about. But if you are born male and you identify woman and then you put on heels and a dress, then you're doing things that a female that would claim to be woman would do. You're already creating the line that says woman, female.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And again, I'm not in any way saying that this is exclusively tied together. Somebody who's gender binary. You don't fall f****** anywhere, bro. A male who identifies as woman and continues to dress as male and behave as male and do only male things, but continues to identify as woman. You also don't fall under this umbrella.

Cristina: And vice versa, who are constantly changing what they feel.

Jack: The gender fluid people.

Cristina: Oh, is that what that is?

Jack: Okay, well then this is a different thing that kind of sides with the original argument that, yes, male and female are associated with man and woman because their fluidity tends to be associated. Yes, with the role. Okay, so, you know, I like my girly moments. Well, what do you mean? Well, you know, I like dresses and make them look so female things is where you like you jumping over there.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And it's fine to have that and there are people who don't fall under it. But to say they are exclusively not the same thing. You are denying somebody's whole experience just because you want your voice to be loud.

Cristina: That's always the problem.

Jack: Yeah, and now you're contradicting your entire f****** argument because you want to say, don't be exclusionary, but you are the one excluding this person's exact opinion because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions and your existing narrative.

Cristina: Yes, okay, yes, it's a pretty big problem. It's a big problem. But how do you fix that? I don't know.

Jack: The problem is that it exists. I don't know how we would approach fixing it other than forms of education probably done by trans people rather than the people who are trans defenders, like female supremacists, who for whatever reason believe they get to say anything and are right just because they screamed it at somebody.

Cristina: What about the doctors that prove. Whatever. Whatever. Are they also.

Jack: Well, no, doctors that prove that gender and sex aren't related are proving that the psychology of gender isn't inherently a default based on the sex. But that doesn't mean the gender role isn't tied to the sex. Okay, so you can say, like, okay, just because you're male doesn't mean you are man. That's correct. You are. You are totally right. That is a correct statement. That is not by default. Now, it could mean that, but it could not mean that. Yes, fine. That's totally true. Now, to say that the gender, man. Isn't based on the sex male and masculinity and strong work and earning the bread and, you know, all these stupid machista bullshit things, that would be a lie because it is based on it. One is immediately reflected on the other. Now, gender requires sex to establish itself, but sex does not require gender to establish itself.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So, like, gender is psychological but based on biology. It isn't biological.

Cristina: A human thing. Right.

Jack: Gender is a human construct. Yes, but we constructed it based on sex.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm like, Like, you know, the animals are just. It's all sex related.

Jack: Yes. That's biology.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Yes. So sex is your sexual organs.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And your crows. What is it? Your chromosome alignment.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So XX and xy, you know, male, female. And those are scientific. And you cannot argue them and you cannot fight them.

Cristina: And gender is based on it, but is less scientific.

Jack: Gender is psychological.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it's not biological. They're both scientific.

Cristina: They're scientific.

Jack: Yes, because you can detect the female characteristics inside of a person, determine that they're more likely to identify as a woman because there is psychology behind it. Now, that does not tie them to their sex, but what they'll be identifying is. Has been based on sex.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So they're more likely to wear a skirt and they're more likely to speak with a lisp at the end. And they're more likely to like these.

Cristina: Kinds of things because of their sex or because of.

Jack: Because of their gender, which you could determine psychologically through evaluations. And things that there are patterns. Actually, with brain scans, you could tell that there are differences between like. Again, they're not connected. One is just based on the other. But the things that culturally we have built around them have tied woman, the female, and man to male.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And I know people are gonna struggle understanding what I am saying, and I'll quickly try to elaborate again. Here, 20 minutes in, which is sex is male organ, female organ, and which chromosomes you have, XX or xy. Gender is a role. You're choosing how you self identify and how you perceive yourself. It's a subjective experience, it's not an objective fact. So you can be born male and there's a likely probability, the highest probability is that you're going to be also man.

Cristina: Also.

Jack: Those are not necessarily fact. You could be born man, you could be born male and be a woman.

Cristina: And in different cultures and different societies, what we would, our gender roles are a little different. They're not all exactly the same.

Jack: Yes. Gender roles are entirely cultural.

Cristina: Yeah. So like you might feel one way here, but if you want to live somewhere else, would it change? Would it affect at all?

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: How you feel about yourself.

Jack: It's very interesting. Right, because there are different, I guess, dichotomies, different ways of approaching the same idea. There are cultures where the women are the bread earners and the men stay home and handle their business that way. And now that is to say that they're the role of a man is being at home.

Cristina: So what would that change? That's, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah.

Jack: Because somebody over here might be like, I'm a man, have been born female and then travel to those places and realize, well, I guess by these standards I'm female or I'm a woman. By these standards, I'm a woman.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So now that's another problem. We get tied up on the words.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because what you're saying is the role, not the name we gave the role. So it should be like we could divide it easily and say caretaker, caretaker. Well, I'm a caretaker regardless of how it looks. So now we've stripped it away from the gender titles we've given and say I'm a caretaker. I'm a person who likes to stay home and do these things. And I like the color pink and I like makeup and I like dresses. And it's like we don't have to associate that with female.

Cristina: We don't, but for some reason we do.

Jack: Yeah. Not only that, we mix. We fail to mix a bunch of these ideologies, which is another problem. This is where the, the right Republican, conservative fail at this, which is the mix matching, which the left seems pretty good at doing.

Cristina: What's the mix matching?

Jack: Think of the example I gave of I like to be a caretaker, I like makeup, I like dresses, I like the color pink. But what stops somebody from being, I like to earn the money, I like the Color pink. I like to lift weights and I like football. But I also like dresses.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So the mix matching of these things is problematic for the conservative. Right. Because they believe. Well, no, there is one thing that applies straight across the board.

Cristina: Yes. Which is wrong.

Jack: Which is wrong.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Again, one doesn't mean the other. It's just based on the other.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the beginning blocks the foundation, if we will. For woman is pink, is dresses, is caretaker.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But that doesn't mean that it would apply to everyone. It would apply to everybody and that it necessitates those things to be a woman. Yeah, it's just what it was based on. Now, the argument would be because it is based on it, if you are missing enough of them, you cannot identify as woman. Honestly. Because the concept, the gender of woman is itself based on female. It's a gender role for asex.

Cristina: But how would you like, you're gonna have a bunch of points and you gotta look at them and like, oh, you can 60%.

Jack: If you are 51% woman, then you are a woman. But if you are 49% woman, you are a man.

Cristina: That's too much.

Jack: Well, the argument would be that it is based on the sex. It's a role that was based on the established position. The roles of a gender is a role.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or gender has roles.

Cristina: That's why the word gender fluid is a thing. So that it's because it's too complicated to say you want to be one or another. If you feeling you like both sides.

Jack: Why possible gender fluid is so in the middle, it's hard to tell where you land.

Cristina: Okay. So it's not even 60, 40.

Jack: And there's also non binary and non binary, which would. Now my question is. Well, no, here's a problem. Gender fluid is a problem because gender fluid is a person that believes they can dive into woman, then exit woman and dive into man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they might feel like one at one time and feel like one at the other.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But they're subscribing to the idea that woman is tied to female.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And man is tied the male. While somebody who's gender non binary is actually the true only person able to fight for that not existing. Because they feel like it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: Because it doesn't make sense.

Jack: Because it doesn't make sense.

Cristina: It really doesn't. I don't think it makes sense. Like it doesn't make sense that we have to stick to any role. Why can't we just go between rows and not label ourselves anything that is the other problem. Labeling is really the problem.

Jack: Labeling is the problem. This is the problem we've always had in all of time.

Cristina: Because we love labels.

Jack: We love labels. We love labels. But there's no point to it.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Why can't you be a male who loves dresses?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Why must you now identify as a woman?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Well, maybe you just like dresses.

Cristina: You don't need to be.

Jack: Yeah, you don't need to be anything. Just like what you like and don't label it. Because labels are the problem.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Labels are 100% the problem. We are.

Cristina: We're stressing about labels.

Jack: We're stressing about labels. This is the exact problem that science has with religion. Right. They have exactly the same arguments, but they label one science, okay. And they label the other religion. But you're still talking about the beginning. You're still talking about space coming to be and the skies coming to be and then life coming to be. You're just what we call it scripture. Well, we call it. It's the science journals, but it's like you both have literal text written by somebody way before you who's telling you what to believe. It's the same idea. You have labels that are making your lives h*** when you're both talking about the same thing.

Cristina: There are people who. Stressing out about these labels. I seen people and read about people who just. They can't. They don't like, they question themselves all the time. They're stressing about these labels of giving themselves the right labels. Like, don't worry about it.

Jack: Yeah, don't worry about it.

Cristina: Just be whoever you are.

Jack: Yeah, be you. Without having to give it a name. Why must you give what you are a name?

Cristina: Because that's just too complicated. Especially if you do feel like you're changing between different, I don't know, genders. Genders. But maybe you're not. You're just being you.

Jack: Maybe you're just being you. Because, look, gender is a construct, but you don't have to subscribe to it. Yes, and it is based on sex, but you don't have to subscribe to it. And there are attributes of being a woman that differentiate from being a man. And those are exclusively tied to the origin story of male and female. They have no other origin. And you cannot debate the beginning and what they are based on and the foundation. But also, you don't have to describe the s***.

Cristina: Let's abandon it.

Jack: Yes, you can abandon. Because the problem is in creating this gender spectrum, all you've done is complicate the fact that gender doesn't need to f****** exist.

Cristina: Yes, we have sexes. Let's keep that.

Jack: Yeah, Just keep the sex and ignore the gender. You do not need gender. Well, I have the male organ and Ima. No, shut the f*** up. You can love whoever you want. Dress however you want, like whatever you want. Do whatever you want. Shut the f*** up about what comes at the end of that sentence. You're just human.

Cristina: You're just human. And if you need surgery, get the surgery.

Jack: Get the surgery.

Cristina: Just. And now you're just person that you are.

Jack: Now you're just male with a v*****.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Who gives a s***? Because we're not labeled. Well. Well, you're a male with a v*****. You're a male with a v*****. Congratulations. Good for you. We're not deciding that you are anything. You're just male with a v*****.

Cristina: Yes. Does that mean everyone could go back to he and she, or are we still keeping all the other stuff? Is that the same thing? That's part of the gender, Right?

Jack: That's part of gender. But I think that one's stupid because we're f****** up language. We are struggling to communicate because that's just more list. It's a whole other list problem. We should go back to just he and she.

Cristina: Whatever you like. If you like being a she and you look like a he, who cares? Yes. Okay, we'll call you.

Jack: He just picked and be clear about it. And you're gonna have to reinforce it consistently until it's reinforced by so many people in so many directions that we're used to just being like, well, if he looks male, it doesn't matter.

Cristina: Let me ask and find out, but just don't. But the problem, though, is the people that feel like they're changing from he to she, then is also.

Jack: No, those people need to stop because that is one. That is an issue. That is an issue. Because you're making it difficult for anybody to communicate with you.

Cristina: Yes. It's too stressful. Yes. For everyone around you.

Jack: No, no, no. Because. No, no. That's the stupid reason. That's a ridiculous reason to say it's too stressful for everybody around you. Because what if it's stressful for you to not be called those things? Where would you decide who.

Cristina: Okay, yes, that's true.

Jack: But you get my point. You can't just be like, well, what do they do? They just need to stop on the account that it's complex. It's not about. We're stressing them out. It's the fact that you've cut out the ability to communicate with you yourself. Yeah, and you're b******* about it.

Cristina: Well, you made the problem, so what do you do?

Jack: Well, you made the problem and then you're whining about the problem existing. There's nothing we. Could you just stop and pick something. It doesn't. I get how it sounds. Oh, it's so f****** ignorant. Pick a thing. But what about the flu? The problem is, if we're trying to talk to you, how do we know where the f*** you stand on any given day? Well, you f******. Today I was a. Well, I didn't f****** know because yesterday you were a he and today you're a she. So unless you're gonna stop me at the beginning of every sentence and tell me, well, today I'm a. Okay, good, then that's up to you. In that case, if you're gonna be switching back and forth, any person you talk to immediately, you better open up with your f******.

Cristina: I think there are people who do that.

Jack: That makes perfect sense.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And for people who interact on social media, great. She, her, him, that, whatever. You do that. But like have a f****** name tag that says it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, you want to go into that deep end, Have a f****** name tag. Otherwise, how do we know in order to address you according to whatever you're feeling at this moment? We're not psychic. And you can't punish people and try to cancel people about s*** they don't know based on choices you're f****** making that are changing every couple of minutes. That's unrealistic. You gotta come down to earth and be like, if you're gonna be switching your s***, then you better be addressing everybody so that they know before they say anything.

Cristina: Yeah, don't make it easier for yourself and everyone else, cuz you're gonna stress out if they say the wrong thing. So not. Why not just correct them beforehand?

Jack: Yeah, 100%. It's a problem that's fixable.

Cristina: Mm, mm. Well, but too much list, man.

Jack: It is. We label too much things, it is a f****** problem. That's the same. That's how we ended up with the whole f****** issue of countries. Right? Well, this is this place and this is that place. Wait, but like, that doesn't make sense. This dirt connects everywhere. Yeah, there's no like, real line. You just made one f****** up and labeled both sides of it.

Cristina: Like, how do we make the continents? Where do we draw those lines?

Jack: Yeah, where'd we draw those lines? We just decided this s*** means this S***. And that s*** doesn't. Yeah, okay, but like, we are just talking Earth, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And that's the problem here. Well, male, female, him, her, he, she, them, they. I'm a man, I'm a woman, I'm a they, I'm a n, I'm a demon. And it's like, okay, bro, but look, we're still just talking about Earth though, right?

Cristina: I think so.

Jack: It's like, yeah, I guess so. But I want to go by. No, no, no. I don't give a s***. I'm calling you Earth.

Cristina: We're gonna just.

Jack: You're just f****** Earth, bro. What the f*** do you mean? Africa? Australia. No, no, no. Shut the f*** up. Earth.

Cristina: Earth, Earth.

Jack: You're an earthling, bro. Well, I'm a straight. You not f****** out. That's made up all of it. So you're earthling. The fact is, you're an earthling.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: There's nothing else you can decide about that. That's the fact of the matter. You're f****** earthling.

Cristina: Yes. That'll make things less stressful.

Jack: Yeah, it's not about stress. Again, anything is stressful to anyone. We can't make decisions because that's an emotional decision.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Making things about what's stressful. Oh, you continue to state stress, but like, that's the emotional choice that got us where we are. Because it's stressful for me to not be called that. It's like, then f***. Okay, I guess we will cut based on stress levels. Well, I guess we will call you f****** him, she, them, they, it, whatever, you know, like, no, we can't make choices based on emotion.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Alright, that is the problem. F*** your emotion. Objective truth. Regardless of what the f*** you think and feel, what is the objective? Shared information. And then what? The rest of it can go f*** itself.

Cristina: Yes, that sounds.

Jack: And again, this comes right back to my own trans friends and my question still lingers is who the f*** are these other people? Because the trans people I know having these experiences are subscribing to the roles of these genders because they feel that that aligns with them, which means that there's a f****** gender role based on a sex and they agree with it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So it's the non trans people who have an issue with it because they don't think there's gender because they don't understand it.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're trying to pretend they do.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because the other problem is, again, we've established labels are an issue.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: The biggest issue, the conglomerate of lgbtq, X, W, X, Y, And Z. Oh.

Cristina: The original labeling thing.

Jack: Because they believe. Well, trans people are part of lgbtq. I'm bi. I'm part of lgbt. We're the same. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't. Don't do that. You're wrong. Very, very wrong. You're not even a little the same. You got no crossing lines other than the fact that you fall under the Alphabet people. That's it. And who decided who falls under the Alphabet people?

Cristina: Why do we put them all in the same group in the first place?

Jack: Yeah, it's weird, because the only people who fall there is anybody who's not, by default, straight. If you're not cis, then you are lgbt. Those are the only two sides.

Cristina: Well, if you look at the upgraded version, if you're Hispanic or you're black, you're also part of the Alphabet. You're now part of that group.

Jack: I don't understand how that works.

Cristina: I don't know. Now it's everyone but who isn't white.

Jack: No, that's ridiculous. And that doesn't make any f****** sense. And I'm 100% sure that was designed by a female supremacist.

Cristina: And. Yes, but that's. That's the thing.

Jack: Yeah, 100% designed by a female supremacist. And regardless of what your sex or gender or belief is, if you're female supremacist, you are no different than the CIS white males you are accusing because you are approaching it like a N***. Yes, my belief is all that matters. And the rest of you can go f*** themselves is the entire belief of a female supremacist.

Cristina: There's a lot of supremacists happening.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cristina: Because of this labeling problem. Well, maybe not because of that, but.

Jack: One of my main complaints on Earth is that the Me Too movement was important. It mattered. But who f***** it up? Female supremacist. The race issue is f****** important. And there are a lot of issues about race, and there's a lot of. In this country, there's. In the world, but there's a lot in this country. But who f**** it up? Female supremacist. How do they f*** it up? My. I know people from different cultures and races who don't get offended by the same things that female supremacists do about them because they can take a joke. I have black friends. I have Hispanic friends. I myself am racially ambiguous as f***.

Cristina: No. People from around the world.

Jack: Yeah. I literally know people from across the World. My whole thing is people, you know, I know people from across the world.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they're all okay with things that people say so long as the intention behind what they're saying makes sense. Female supremacists try to control what you're saying, regardless of what you mean by it. Yes, that is a problem.

Cristina: Is that the right word, though?

Jack: What, a female supremacist?

Cristina: Female supremacist, yeah.

Jack: The problem is that it tends to be these very specific. There are quite a lot of people who aren't female who are from different genders and whatever, but it seems to be primarily females. Fat, white females, usually with some kind of colored hair and identifying some confusing gender. And they're not trans. They're not, like, transitioning into anything else. They just don't want to be identified by a certain thing. But they'll still be, like, in a dress and still be dating a guy and be like, well, that's offensive. It's like, wait, but the black guy that was told to think it's funny people, There's a lot of them who are. It's usually online people in reality don't behave this f****** way.

Cristina: These might not be real people. These might be avatar, like, fake, like trolls using the same person.

Jack: No, no, no. It's many, many different people who have the same exact. Yeah, no, you haven't seen these. It started with Dave Chappelle, but it's. The people have made these collages of all these accounts, and they all look alike. They all look alike. And it goes around the Internet, people just like. You know, every time a new one joins the argument of, like, well, Dave Chappelle isn't funny, or Ben Shapiro is a f****** racist or this political issue or that, and it's like, okay, they sound like they belong here. And then you put them aside. Oh, s***. Yeah, they fit. Yeah, same weight.

Cristina: I saw something like that, but it was about hipsters, that they all look alike.

Jack: I mean. Yeah, it's. Again, the problem is that they are unknowingly subscribing to an ideology which is culty.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They're. They're echoing each other. We love cults. We love cults. Everybody's in a cult.

Cristina: Everyone.

Jack: And they're echoing each other. Oh, same. The same s*** over and over. And like, what is that if not religion?

Cristina: Mm, just you.

Jack: You're saying the same s*** he said, and you said the same s*** they said. Did any of you come up with the f****** thing?

Cristina: Cults, a very popular thing. I mean, they were always popular.

Jack: Cults were always popular.

Cristina: I feel like there's much more of them. Or are they exact same number, you think?

Jack: Nothing has changed other than that we can see it all.

Cristina: Okay. So we wouldn't have known about all of these.

Jack: Yeah. People who complain about there being an in. Cops attacking black people that are unarmed. I am sorry to inform you people, but it is as good as it has ever been. Today it has not gone up. It has steadily gone down. We're just seeing it more because they can not get away with it as actively because everybody has a camera. Yeah, but it was happening way the f*** more. The existence of cameras, in fact, has reduced it so drastically that we see it once or twice a year versus the fact that it was happening every day somewhere. Like somebody getting shot of color everywhere all the time. Now it's gone way the f*** down because we got cameras. And I'm talking even before George Floyd. And before that, it's been steadily going down as we have aimed more cameras at s*** and as we've started to s*** since before we started aiming cameras in general. It's just been going down. As we live in more cities and people are exposed to more people of color and we are sort surrounded by more ethnic groups.

Cristina: Like just things changing.

Jack: Things change for the better. It's been steadily going down the amount of times that this happens, but as more cameras show up, it seems like it's increasing because we're aiming at it.

Cristina: More or we're just re watching the same videos.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: So we're like, oh, look at all these videos. Like, how many of those are repeats?

Jack: It's not even the repeats. Is that there are more situ. We more situations have made it on camera.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Even if the same situation was recorded from a million different angles or if we saw the same video a million times, the fact of the matter is we've recorded more of the situations that were already there. There aren't more situations there. They were always there. Yeah, but now we got cameras on them.

Cristina: Yeah. So it feels like more even if it's less.

Jack: Yes. And the same thing happens with these cults that form before it would happen in privacy. And maybe we hear about it.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: How many cults went under the radar and we don't even know about? And then hundred years later we find out, oh, there's a f****** graveyard right here.

Cristina: Yeah. Because all these people documentary happens. Yeah.

Jack: But it existed and we just didn't hear about it at the time. And we look back, oh, how crazy. How many of those haven't been discovered? Yet.

Cristina: And the ones that are around us now, they're not all like the ones that we see documented that.

Jack: Oh, they're all creepy because we're thinking religious apocalypse, cults.

Cristina: Yeah, that's what people think of when they hear here's cults.

Jack: Yes, but everything is a cult.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: If you are PlayStation vs Xbox, you subscribe to the idea that there are console wars. Yes, you're in a cult. You're in a cult and you're gonna support your team no matter what the f***. It is blindingly ridiculous to assume that Xbox is in any way better than PlayStation, but people believe it. But you can prove that statement wrong with specs, you can prove that statement wrong with exclusives, you can prove that statement wrong with audience size. But it doesn't matter how the objective truth looks. There is still the master race of PC people who can't run any game.

Cristina: Who think they're the.

Jack: Who think they're the best simply because they got the thing. But like, what was. You couldn't even run Arkham the day it came out. You have to wait like a year.

Cristina: You couldn't run GT so many games now that they can't run.

Jack: Yeah, there's mad s***. PC just can't run. Same thing with Xbox. But both sides still believe in the. Their team.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Because it's not about the objective truth, it's about the team, your cult, your group, people with the same opinion politics. That's happening with everything. There's nothing that's not happening.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: IPhone versus Android. IPhone was the best. It was the best. It was objectively better for many, many years. IPhone.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While Steve Jobs was alive. And the moment we no longer had Steve Jobs, the decline began so instantaneously. It took like a year and a half before it was garbage.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And now Android is better. But the cult states Android was always better or Apple was always better. And that is incorrect. They swapped positions.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Going back to the console wars, at this moment, the brand new Xbox is superior to the PlayStation because it has the game pass and it has people who are willing to play that. And it's giving you so many games.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: PlayStation has three f****** games worth it.

Cristina: And then broken controller.

Jack: And a broken controller. So team PlayStation is gonna be. No, it's still better. It's not. Xbox is currently better. Previous generation, there's no competition. PlayStation was objectively the better, superior, Unquestionably s******* on everything around it. But right now, Xbox is the one doing that, minus the fact that it still can't run a lot of games a PlayStation can. But also the fact that it even has the same game that's on PlayStation and a million other games that aren't. Is making the new Xbox the better option?

Cristina: Yeah. Things are always changing like that.

Jack: It's always changing. The cult decides. It has always been this way, and it will always be this way.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The same thing happens with Christianity, for example. The same thing happens with political teams.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: I'm a Democrat. This is always right. No, it's not. Sometimes you do dumb s***. Right now Biden's breaking s***.

Cristina: He. He's a broken old man.

Jack: The f***? Did we get rid of the Taliban so immensely? We were just not hearing about them. They were in caves, hoping that we don't starve to death. Then Biden comes along, and it's like, we gave them a country. Now you guys have a terrorist country.

Cristina: Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

Jack: Terrorist country. Now Obama, Amazing.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Biden, not so much. So both Democrats.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But at one point it was good, and now it f****** sucks. So Trump versus Obama. Well, arguable. Depends on what you're looking for. But Obama versus Bush. Obama 100%. Which means Trump versus Bush. Trump for sure. But Biden versus Obama. Obama and I would even argue Bush over Biden.

Cristina: So Obama over. I mean, you said Biden over.

Jack: I said Obama over Biden.

Cristina: Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Jack: Trump and Obama are equal, but different.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Obama over Bush. Trump over Bush. Obama over Biden. Bush over Biden.

Cristina: Okay. Biden is over no one.

Jack: Biden is over nobody. Biden might be the worst thing that's happened to the presidency in quite some time.

Cristina: That's why he's gotta prove himself on top of the White House. Oh, no. But is he gonna lose that? Do we ever say that? Who wins that? No. We're gonna change the history so it doesn't even matter.

Jack: Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna change all that. But the point here being that there is a definite problem with team choosing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Choosing sides and sticking to the sides. And these people on the Internet who echo each other, who mirror each other, who look like each other, who behave like each other.

Cristina: That is so just a cult. Yeah.

Jack: An ideological cult. And they're trying to force that s*** on everybody else because the. The error of the Internet makes everybody convinced that because they have a voice. Your voice matters. Yeah, and it doesn't. Your voice doesn't matter. You can scream as loud as you want, and you're gonna scream at us pretty loud for even having this conversation. But I got a simple and easy bit of advice. That might help you resolve your need to scream at us for saying that your opinions doesn't matter. What, to go f*** themselves. They should probably go f*** themselves.

Cristina: What if they can't?

Jack: Too bad. Too bad. Because the same way you have beliefs, I have beliefs.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And the fact that I have ideas and you have ideas immediately goes to say that there are two thinking beings.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the fact that your ideas and my ideas aren't the same goes to immediately prove that there's more than one perspective.

Cristina: What?

Jack: And in there being more than one perspective, neither necessarily based purely on scientific fact.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Just bringing it down to opinion. Your opinion is no more valuable than anybody else's opinion.

Cristina: Exactly. But because of these groups, they really believe.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Yes. My opinion is most important.

Jack: Yes. Because we have echo chambers in which people are just repeating the same s***. And I must be right.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It's like. No. You surround yourself with people who already agree with you, and you will shut down anybody who doesn't, rather than listening to them and trying to comprehend their position. I get your stance. You'll never get mine. That makes me superior to you because I have my information. And I have your information, but you only have your information.

Cristina: Ooh.

Jack: I'm twice as smart as you are.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That's always going to be the case if you shut down everybody's opposing argument.

Cristina: That's why you got to listen to a show with the opposite point of view. That's what you said at the beginning.

Jack: Yeah. You got to make sure to eat all of. All the information. Everything. Everything that is out there. What do I say? I say all information is information.

Cristina: Mm. There's objective truth. You can't disagree with that.

Jack: Yeah. There's nothing you could do to fight that. All information is information.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The end.

Cristina: The end, period.

Jack: That was it.

Cristina: So are you with us about that? I want to see what you say about that. Huh? What could you possibly say about that?

Jack: Yeah. There's no argument to that. All information is information, regardless of how you might feel about it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And going back to the gender problem, the. The trans issue, like, if you're not trans, you don't get to say, man, I don't give a f***. I don't get. I don't give a f*** what you think. You have a right to voice if you're not living the experience. Shut the f*** up about it, man.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like a joke gets told, you think it's racist. It was about black people, and the black guy in the room is like, nah, it was funny. You don't get to be offended for him. Shut the f*** up and keep that s*** to yourself.

Cristina: Calling something racist is weird. Feels like if Dave Chappelle makes a joke about black people, is that racist?

Jack: That's crazy, right? Because he's black?

Cristina: Yeah. Like, is it? Or is it just a joke? Like, how do you.

Jack: It's just a joke because he's black, but if he's not black, it's suddenly racist. But it doesn't make sense because it was the same basis and the same premise.

Cristina: Yeah, how? I don't know.

Jack: I don't know, man. You can't get offended for somebody else. You got to let a person decide. And there's nothing more racist than a person being like, I'm cool with it. And you'd be like, shut the f*** up. You're offended. It's like, so f*** the oppressed person's opinion. What you, the white person, decided is wrong is not what's wrong. This is just where we're at. You're like, no, he's racist, so I'm gonna shut that black person up. You shut the f*** up, black person. Because you're offended and you're not portraying offense right now. So you shut the f*** up and I'm gonna be offended for you. And it's like, how are you not the racist right now?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It feels to me like you're suppressing somebody else's experience. It's like that to generalize them and say that you should all be as offended by that thing.

Cristina: He said, like, Biden being like, you got. If you're black, you gotta vote for me or whatever.

Jack: Yeah, that was racist.

Cristina: That was pretty racist.

Jack: That was racist.

Cristina: Or the whole, if you're not rich, then. Or if you're not poor, then you're white or something. I don't remember. But it's. It's a lot of racism there.

Jack: No, it was. Everybody has equal opportunities. Poor kids, white kids.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Yeah. Biden's racist as f***.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah. But, you know, they don't like to talk about that. They want to say Trump is racist.

Cristina: That's so crazy.

Jack: Trump is ignorant. There's a difference. He'd be like, look at my black guy over there. And it's like, shut the f*** up, bro. I get where you're coming from, but, you know, less loud. Yeah, but he's not like, look at my N word.

Cristina: You think Biden won't say that?

Jack: He literally is on video saying that.

Cristina: Never mind.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just find it on YouTube. But it's this real f****** thing. It's a real f****** thing. And it's like, well, we. He's on our team, so we have to support him.

Cristina: He's on our team. We just pretend we don't hear that.

Jack: Bite is not on our team. So even if we. We get that, he's not being racist about it. Well, he said, look at my black guy. Obviously, he doesn't mean like, look at my slave black guy. He's like, look at my. He's ignorant. He's trying to be like, look at my brother. But he can't say brother. He felt that was being racist. So he's like, look at my black guy. We can call them black people. That's right. The con. The thought process in his mind made sense. Even if it's ignorant. It made sense for an ignorant person. He's not trying to be racist. He's not like, I'm better than that black guy. He's like, hey, look at my brother. But you didn't want to say brother because, you know, I'm not black, but look at my black guy. And I get the connotations of. That sounds like, look at my sleeve. But you know, he doesn't mean that. You're just saying that because you need to demonize him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that's ridiculous.

Cristina: Like, you're trying to do the opposite with Biden.

Jack: With Biden? Yeah. You're gonna find the. Well, you know, he was just reading it off of a paper, but he wrote.

Cristina: Who's writing paper? Yeah, the. Do you mean he approved it?

Jack: Yeah. He was like, hey, it's good.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's like, come on, dude.

Cristina: Who are you lying?

Jack: You can't just aim. And it's all this culty team.

Cristina: And I don't.

Jack: I. I will be completely honest. I get kind of annoying. Like, I don't usually get involved in this s*** and I don't care. Dude, whatever. Have your opinions and be racist and be transphobic or f****** be female supremacist and feel you have an opinion for whatever. Nobody has to listen to you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The same way you can say whatever f*** you want. People can just ignore what the f*** you're saying. It's great, Whatever. But, like, it annoys me, specifically the female supremacists. I don't care about many of the other things, but it's because the level of hypocrisy comes from trying to silence somebody's personal experience and claim that you understand their experience better than they do. That annoys the s*** out of Me, because they're already a person in the minority who's struggling to make their own statement. And you, who's claiming to defend them, is pushing their own statement down, thus being the bigger problem. That s*** annoys me the same way I get annoyed. Like watching the movie radio where somebody's just taking advantage of a person who has no control over the situation.

Cristina: Yeah. And like I said, exactly what's happening.

Jack: Yeah, I can't watch that movie because I wish I remember when I was a little kid, bro, I wanted to f****** kill everybody in that movie I've never hated. And he's just a person trying to live life, bro. And you pieces of are all just garbage. I hope all your children get murdered in front of your eyes so that you can just.

Cristina: Characters.

Jack: Yeah, them characters. I hate all of them. But the problem is that these female supremacists are doing the same. And I'm not saying females are the problem. I believe in feminism. I believe that females should be treated equally. I don't believe they are. And I don't believe that the propositions that we have, like, I believe there is definitely a difference between female and male. Biologically, physiologically, psychologically.

Cristina: Psychologically, yeah.

Jack: Now do I believe in feminism that they should be treated equal? Yes, because that's how we remove the differences. With enough generations of treating women and men equally, these traits and things that were exclusively men or exclusively women get passed on.

Cristina: And then we can stop labeling them. That would also help.

Jack: Then we could stop labeling them. Yeah, because at the end of the day, for example, hard manual labor gets passed down from father to son, from father to son, from father to son. One daughter comes in and then she has a son that she passes it to and it's back to father and son. Father, son, father and son. That's why we don't have a dominant amount of women who are great at construction. There are women who are. But it's rare if all women were treated equal, even while their performance will not be at the start, over enough generations, the equality is re established because they got to pass the information down to their daughters the same way other fathers got to do to their sons. And that there's an equality distributed it. Yes, same thing with pay. Yes, it sucks to pay a woman who's going to underperform. And yes, she's going to underperform at a job that's predominantly been male. But we made the problem and not letting them do the job and not being able to pass the knowledge that gets in grades of DNA and that they pass natural talents on to their daughters to get to, then improve on it. If we just pay them equally, even during the underperforming beginning, they'll eventually overpassing the knowledge through generations being no different than the males doing the same f****** jobs. It is differences that we have made as men that we can fix by sucking it up, admitting we did it, and just dealing with they will underperform.

Cristina: And never will do that.

Jack: And men are going to underperform at female jobs the same way. They will. There are certain things that we just don't do as good as women, and it is objectively true. We can test it. We know that males are great spatially. They have great spatial awareness, and females have great interpersonal cognition. We understand these things and this scientific fact, but we can work that out of the system and make everybody equal.

Cristina: Mm. But it takes time.

Jack: It takes time, and we have to just deal with the. The unbalanced output by giving them equal compensation until they rise up to the compensation. And it will happen with enough time. I do 100% hate the female supremacist. Not females. I am a feminist. I do not like these people who are predominantly female. Not to say it is all women. Again, I am feminist. But I do have a very, very, very big issue with somebody suppressing somebody else's experience and saying they get to speak for them. You do not get to speak for somebody trans unless you are trans. You do not get to speak for somebody of color unless you are of color. You do not get to speak for whether the police are right or wrong unless you are a family of police or somebody who's being abused by the cops. Just shut the up about something you're not experiencing. That s*** annoys me because you're no different than somebody abusing your position because you're still abusing your whiteness. You're still abusing the titles that you just happen to have part of the lgbt. Well, no, you don't get to speak for everybody in lgbt. Shut the the f*** up about your bullshit because you do not matter as much as you think you do. In fact, you're the least oppressed person. So shut the f*** up and let the people who are dealing with the problems say how they feel and propose the solutions that might help them feel less bad about their circumstance. You don't get to just come in and do that. That s*** annoys the f*** out of me.

Cristina: We shouldn't have lgbt, then.

Jack: We shouldn't have lgbt. The problem is the Alphabet people have f***** it up. Up. Specifically the female supremacists who take claim for everything inside lgbt.

Cristina: Yes, I guess so. Yeah, that wouldn't help.

Jack: The vast majority of my friends are female. The vast majority of the people in my family are female. I am surrounded by female. I respect females.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I have absolutely no problem females. I have a problem with these stupid b****** who feel that they got a f****** opinion. And, yeah, I said that s***. Oh, get offended. I want your hate so that I can ignore it, because I'm not gonna even know you're f****** doing it.

Cristina: It would be weird if that's the thing that they're like, I'm offended. I heard everything else you said, and it's all fine. But that.

Jack: The stupid b****** part, that. That set me off. That set me off.

Cristina: I mean, look, if that's it, please comment.

Jack: Yeah, that's it. Please, like, comment a dog.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah, comment. A little Chihuahua or something. Just a dog emoji.

Cristina: Yeah, I don't think it's a specific.

Jack: Just put the emoji of a woman and the emoji of a dog.

Cristina: All right. You both know that that was where you drew the line.

Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you could be a stupid b**** and be a guy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But, like, no, I'm specifically referring to these, like, female supremacists who feel they get the right to speak for everybody at all times. And, like, you f****** don't. I don't give a f*** how offended you get that I'm saying this like, you do not matter by any means, because you are the racist. You supr. I am a person of f****** color, bro. I'm dark as s*** with dreads right now. To feel that you get to say, this is offensive. And I'm over here like, it's f****** not. And you're like, no, no, no, it's offensive. And I'm like, shut the f*** up. It's not. No, no, no. It's just not. Shut the f*** up. It's just not. And you don't get to tell me it is, and it'll never be just because you felt it was okay. That's ridiculous. And to say you understand the trans experience. No, bro. One, that's such a unique experience. Two, they are suffering in a way that we couldn't even comprehend. You know what it is to fear telling anybody who you are ever, and then finally doing it and risking just having the s*** beat out of you, maybe even killed, just by being like, hey, this is what I am. Hey. Your life could have ended immediately after that sentence. You do not know what the f*** that is as some spoiled f****** white chick. Get the f*** out of here.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: That's ridiculous.

Cristina: You're dealing with that a lot, aren't you?

Jack: I deal with that a lot. I deal with that so f****** often.

Cristina: Okay, it sounds like. It sounds like you're talking to these women.

Jack: Yeah, I do. I do.

Cristina: Bothering you?

Jack: It's annoying. It's annoying. I do say off the wall s***, and it attracts this kind of attention, and then they want to f****** voice their opinions. It's like, I get that I sound like I'm a white guy behind this microphone. I understand it. But now you're being racist in that thought. Well, he sounds white. No, I sound educated because the way I sound isn't associated to f****** race, you f****** racist.

Cristina: Yes. F***.

Jack: Anyways, we are out of time. Cancel us if you want, or go yourself. I don't care. I annoyed myself in the course of this. Yes, I might cancel this f****** show.

Cristina: No.

Jack: God d*** it. But if you guys want to hear conversations of this nature, you're probably gonna have to defer to episodes with Anthony in it because we.

Cristina: Yeah, she helps us.

Jack: We have LGBT conversations. A person of color with an LGBT member having actual conversations about things that these f****** N*** women have no place talking about. Two people who do have a place to talk about it are having these conversations. So you could find those. I believe that's three point, like, nine or so. I don't know. Just look for Anthony from Miz the Miz. The Miz from Miz podcast.

Cristina: And we also probably talk about politics in other episodes.

Jack: Yes, there are many episodes with politics breaking down. How politics work in this country, how it's distributed, how we've constructed it, and social political structures as well.

Cristina: The labeling problem continues.

Jack: Yeah, we talked about the labeling problem a couple of times. So you can find all that stuff on the official website. Greatthoughts.info on Apple, podcasts, on Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcast.

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Cristina: Need to know the specific point. You were offended. It's very important.

Jack: If it was at any given moment, you let us know. Unless it was specifically at saying you, you racist b******, then there you could choose to put the emoji of a woman and a female dog to let us know that you're furious that I called you a b****.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And for whatever reason, that's the part that set you off, which is a weird point, but whatever. Like, be you, do you. It is what it is.

Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. If you also deal with a bunch of female N*** crazy people talking over everybody else's personal life experience and deciding that that's the case. Hey, maybe share this with them and let them know that I am just as angry as they are.

Cristina: Yes. And this has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: By okay, so it doesn't seem that they have any exact purpose, but it kind of does at the same time. So Gabriel is essentially the angel of, like, peace and love.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Then Michael is the angel of War.

Cristina: We know those two at least.

Jack: Yes. And Raphael just stands by God. What does that mean?

Cristina: I don't know. And Lucifer's light. Rare.

Jack: That's a weird one. So Lucifer is the angel of light, not dark. That was applied later by people who haven't, like, read anything.

Cristina: Or maybe he was called Dark after he fell, but then I don't know how that works.

Jack: No, that doesn't work. So there is some sort of loose connection between Michael and Ares, for example.

Cristina: Ares is the war guy.

Jack: Yeah, he's a God of war. And there does seem to be some kind of loose connection between that, but we can't.

Cristina: I don't know what the other ones are. Good morning. Good morning.

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Cristina: Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.