Rambling 223: What is LGBTQ?
/What does LGBT mean? Is it trying to express gender, orientation or physical sex descriptions? Is being all inclusive dangerous? The duo unpack the term LGBT and its extensions, and attempt to understand how the movement supporting pedophilia and pedophiles has successfully taken cover using the LGBT movement.
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Topics Discussed:
- LGB
- Sexual Orientation
- Transism
- Drag Queens
- Children Exposed to Drag Queens
- Gender
- Inclusiveness
- Pedophiles
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we discuss humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And I believe that we have stumbled upon an interesting problem.
Cristina: What's that?
Jack: Well, right now, you and I were sitting here, we were having a conversation about lgbt. And the B in LGBT standing for bi, which already is suggestive of only two sexualities. I said gender is original. Two genders suggests two genders, but thinking about it, it's suggesting what they would like to have sexual interactions with, not what they're identifying as. Gender is what you identify as.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Sex is what you are, and orientation is what you're attracted to. Right. This is. This is the three. The three important things to note. Noun. Something interesting happened with the letters lgbt, and later they added a plus to it, and then, like a million other things behind it, the Alphabet people will call them. While discussing this, we discovered that if B mean sex, and LGBT is talking about not just gender, but actually sex, it's assuming they're both the same in this name. Because weirdly enough, out of this sex acronym came the gender people.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: The people who later started identifying as, you know, pansexual and non binary. The trans people. Everything.
Cristina: All of that came out of trans, isn't it?
Jack: LGBT is trans, then trans was always in there. Then where? If. So, it had orientation included, too. Fascinating. It did have orientation. Well, no. Orientation is what you're attracted to. Sex is what you are. So it's all three. If the L means sex because you're a lesbian, you are. You're telling us what you like to have sex with.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The B is the same, also telling us what you like to have sex with. Both of those are orientation. So with the G, gay is also telling us orientation. Lgbt, but trans isn't. No, trans is telling us sex.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Oh, it immediately got weird.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which means maybe. Is that what the plus means? It's the gender people. Yes, it's the 3 sec. But there's an issue here, bruh. Why gay and lesbian? Sure, they're clinging to liking a specific, identifying gender and sex. Sweet. Whatever. Those are only two instances. So why isn't there, like, the people who. This weird, interesting thought that kind of pokes a huge hole in this logic, which is, if there are women who just like women and there are men who just like men, why aren't there non binary people who only like non binary people? Where are the trans that only like trans?
Cristina: They probably are.
Jack: I would figure it is more intentional in the case. Not the trans.
Cristina: Q for queer. I don't know if that's important.
Jack: Queer's a weird one because it literally just means weird.
Cristina: Queerd isn't just another word for gay.
Jack: No, it's. It's like the. The literal definition of it originally is just strange or weird.
Cristina: Strange or weird. Yeah.
Jack: That's what queer originally is.
Cristina: There's also an I for intersex. Well, queer and questioning. Q is for queer and questioning. And then there's the A for A.
Jack: But questioning what? Questioning what? What are they questioning? Huh? Is it sexuality?
Cristina: It could be.
Jack: It's orientation. They're questioning their orientation.
Cristina: It could be anything. It could be sexual. It could be your lesbian gay. What you feel like you are. Because there are people who aren't sure.
Jack: About or all sex, Right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay. No, wrong, wrong, wrong. Lesbian, gay, and by your all orientation. I love to have sex with these things. Is the. The statement of those three letters in that code, which one? You said LG and B.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Lesbian. I love. I'm a woman who identifies as a woman and loves to f*** other women. G. I'm a guy who loves other guys and loves to f*** other guys. Identify as guys. Well, and by a person. I'm a person who identifies as one thing and likes these two specific other things. Other things.
Cristina: Okay, then there's the T and the I.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We. We've added crap on over time. That's wrong. The original is lgbt.
Cristina: Okay, then just T. That's the ending of it.
Jack: That's trans.
Cristina: You're just gonna say train, O.
Jack: And the sex. Because in being trans, you're not telling us what you are attracted to. No, that's a big point the LGBT community makes. You could be trans and have a million different flavors and be interested in million different things. Okay, so that's not orientation, that's sex. The question is, then, if trans is sexual, is cross dressing and as result drag queening an extension of transism?
Cristina: I think so.
Jack: Do they believe that it's an. It's an extension of transism?
Jack: Because here's the following thought. Because if it is an extension of transism, if cross dressing and. Or drag queening is an extension of transism and transism is an inherent sex, then you are going in front of children. And in other words, the point of your activity, although you're doing it in an artistic fashion that might be singing or dancing or whatever you're doing is in fact saying, this is what I got between my legs. Which is a weird thing to be doing. If cross dressing. Listen clearly. Again, if cross dressing and drag queening are an extension of transism, and transism is inherently just informing us on what you have between your legs at any given moment. That's your sex. You're telling us what your sex is. Then being intentionally a drag queen with the point of informing children of drag queening is at the very top of its point. If the point of drag queening is saying, I am this, then you're saying I am this to children. Except the I am this that.
Cristina: What you're trying to say, you're making it very strange because it's like you're saying, if you're telling a child you're a man, you're telling your. The child you have a p****. So that's inappropriate. Like, what?
Jack: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The idea is that if it's about what you have in between your legs and the fashion you decided to do it in was in a dress and you were twerking on a child, which is literally the video that I recalled it. Trip me the f*** out.
Cristina: They were on a child.
Jack: They were twerking to the children. Not on a child specifically. Okay, but they're on a stage twerking.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they could not have been older than, like, five or six.
Cristina: It's weird.
Jack: Yeah. The weird thing is, I didn't know originally it was in front of children.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah, because the camera. Which after the camera shift, you realize has to be apparent, but it looks like they're at a concert or something, and they're watching the drag queen do their thing. And, you know, it's really risque, you know, really tongue in cheek. A lot of twerking, a lot of dancing, a lot of inappropriate, like, body touches and stuff. You're like, okay, clever dance. But the excited whoever has the camera then shifts to show us the reaction of the audience, which happens to be a bunch of children. That was a weird left turn I didn't see coming.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: That is weird. That is very strange. And I was part of the camp that was like, why are you worried about, like, I get it, but it's like, bro, you really just allow guns in the schools? Like, who gives a s***? Let somebody break their mind. At least they'll live through it, you know, like, whatever. I don't care. The grim, but, like, still way better Than the alternative, which is what they're cool with. Like, bro, if you let one thing, let the other thing whatever. I guess ultimately let them get both their minds broken and then shot is the answer here, but not the point I'm trying to make.
Cristina: What is the point?
Jack: The fact that we did kind of look the other way, and it was just a bunch of children this guy was holding his fake breast to and grabbing his crotch too, and twerking to. It was children.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That was the plot twist of that video. It was like, hey, look at the audiences. We're like, okay, why is this the audience question? Yeah, because. Let's go back to it. Is. This is my question. I'm not saying it is. I'm just asking, is cross dressing and drag queening an extension of trans. Of transism? If it is, then, holy, there's undeniable problems. If it isn't, then, okay, we have more room to wiggle. It's still creepy. That doesn't stop what I saw from being the case. Yeah, but at least they're not inherently sexual. We might just see it sexual because we're conditioned weird or whatever, and we're like, oh, well, you're in a dress, but you're really just talking about, look, I love my femininity. You know, I can. I can rationalize it. Easy. I love my femininity. And females these days are twerking and stuff, and, you know, it's fine.
Cristina: But would you still. I don't know.
Jack: If you wouldn't put my kid there. No.
Cristina: Exactly. Even if it was just a woman born as a woman twerking on stage in front of your child.
Jack: Problem is inherently sexual. Right? It's inherently sexual. The whole performance is a profile. Yes.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter who it is. It's an adult and it's in front of children and they're twerking.
Jack: I will tell you why it matters who it is.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because you can Google females dancing for children, which I did, and you won't really find much. It's kind of hard. But you can Google men dancing for children and. Well, it depends on your perspective, I suppose.
Cristina: So there are men also dancing in front of children.
Jack: Drag queens. It's all that will show up in its many videos, and it's problematic now, is it problem? I guess that's my question. In my point of view. In my point of view, I would not have my child get. I wouldn't want my child to see anybody, regardless of what coat you put on it. I don't Want to see you grab your crotch, your breasts, and then twerk at yeah my Child. Like, I don't want that. Regardless of who you are.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The fact that I can only find guys doing it kind of omegled me.
Cristina: What is that?
Jack: Omegle is that random, like, video place where all the guys. You know, when's the last time somebody stumbles upon a chick masturbating on Omegle viciously? Like, never. That's never happened. Okay, I know females rape males. It's happened. But, like, how often is that really happening as opposed to the number of guys just raping women? Like, okay, there's a. There's a real pattern we're seeing here. And, like, I'm not saying there isn't some woman twerking at a bunch of children. There probably is some douchebag who paid a stripper to go and dance for some kids as a troll. Something happened. I don't know. Somebody did happened. The fact that it's happening enough with guys that we can just record it on average, that's like, yes. The women doing it too. There's anybody doing it. That's problem. There's a problem. This is bad. Bad, bad, bad. What is wrong with men?
Cristina: Maybe it's. What if it was the same number, but you're gonna record the man? Because it's like, whoa, this is weird. But if a lady is doing that, you're not gonna find it that weird. And then you don't record it. What are those chances?
Jack: I don't know. I don't know. That's definitely a way to think about it.
Cristina: Because if it was happening the same amount, would there be equal amount of recordings, though?
Jack: I think so. There was that one time. Yes. There was that one time that black teacher wore the really nice dress, but she was too curvy, so they called her attention and then fired her.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh.
Jack: And it's like, you got fired for being hot in school. She wear a dress, and it was not a risque dress. It was just a tight dress, but it went down to her, like, ankles.
Cristina: And she got fired.
Jack: She got fired because she's too hot and distracting or something. They didn't say too hot. They said, you're too distracting or something along those lines.
Cristina: Can they really say something like that?
Jack: I don't know. Like, it was like, there. She's preventing the students from learning.
Cristina: Sure. Okay.
Jack: Like, America ration. She was in some red state. I'm. I'm sure. I'm sure she was in some red save. But that's ultimately my question.
Cristina: You don't want or.
Jack: I guess there's a couple of questions.
Cristina: There's a couple of questions. Okay. What are they?
Jack: Question 1. Is cross dressing and drag queening an extension of transism? Like a version of being the other. Something you imagine without having to be the other thing that. So you are it.
Cristina: Sometimes I feel like this should be another word.
Jack: My question is, is it a subcategory?
Cristina: It's not a subcategory. It's not the same.
Jack: You think it's a different letter.
Cristina: Yeah. Because they don't feel like a woman. Men that like to dress like women just like to dress like women.
Jack: Some of them, yeah.
Cristina: But I'm just saying those men. Yeah. Drag queens that just like to dress like women because they like to dress like women. But, yeah, they're straight. They're just married straight men.
Jack: Yeah, they're just men. They're just men.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, they're just man.
Jack: They're just men. Some of them are straight. Some of them are gay. Some of them got wives and they go drag queen as a job.
Cristina: Yeah. For fun.
Jack: Like, they like it, but it's your hobby.
Cristina: I don't think that's trans.
Jack: I don't. Yeah, so. So we. We're thinking that it's not a part of transism.
Cristina: No, no, I don't think so.
Jack: So there's. It's its own thing. So it's a different letter. So it's the D. It's the D in lgbtqd.
Cristina: Drag.
Jack: Drag is drag. But then the question is, is drag a sexuality or is drag an orientation or is drag a gender?
Cristina: I don't know, because, like, you wouldn't call a tomboy. Something you wouldn't call tomboy is a gender you call tomboy.
Jack: It's a boyish female.
Cristina: Okay. Then it's. Whatever that is. It's that. That descriptor. That's. That's all that is. It's a gender. Okay. Yes, it's a gender. Then it's not a sexuality. It's not a sex. It's a gender.
Jack: This is my identity.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I guess I identify as a guy who likes to dress like a woman.
Cristina: Yeah. Like I'm a girl who likes to dress like a boy. Or I'm a boy who.
Jack: I'm a guy. Sometimes I'm a girl.
Cristina: A girl. But that doesn't relate to what they're interested in.
Jack: Yes. At all times. I'm attracted to women.
Cristina: True. Gender is. Yeah, they're attracted to sexes.
Jack: Yeah, they're Attracted to you. Could you? So you. Yeah, fair enough. Yes, I agree.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's fire in some hot fire lava.
Cristina: Gender, then.
Jack: It's a gender.
Cristina: Okay, there you go. Lgbtq, is it?
Jack: All six? Yeah. So solid. Solid. You've. You've successfully with nothing but logic, divided transism.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And drag queening. And you've made drag queening inherently not sexual. You made a gender. Ooh, nice. So we've literally stated not just what it's not, but what it is.
Cristina: Even though transgender has gender in its name, that doesn't make it a gender. That's your sex. You're saying I'm not this sex, I'm that sex?
Jack: Yes, exactly.
Cristina: Yes. While being drag is I'm this sex. I just like to dress like that sex. Or I guess I just like to dress different from what you expect me to dress.
Jack: Well, this brings in the next part of the problem. Question number two.
Cristina: Oh, no.
Jack: What is transism transitioning? The person who transitions suggesting that there is only one direction to transition. Because hear me out. This is my theory as to why the gender people should wage war on transism and transism should rage war back on the gender people. Because no trans person has ever transitioned into something that is non existent. No trans person has ever transitioned into pansexual.
Cristina: That's a sex, though. I don't understand.
Jack: Exactly. So there are just two sexes. And like even the people trying to argue that question, you'd then have to exclude the trans people if you wanted to say that trans and gender are the. That gender and sex are the same.
Cristina: Thing and that there's more people are confusing gender and sex. There's a million genders. There's only two sex. Yes, that's all.
Jack: Yeah, but then why are they in the L? Why are they the T?
Cristina: Who?
Jack: The trans people.
Cristina: Why they. The T?
Jack: Why are they the T in lgbt?
Cristina: Why not include them? I don't know.
Jack: Because that's not an orientation. And why is all the other crap included if those are not orientations? I mean, I guess pansexual is, but I. What you identify as my identity, like that has nothing to do with lgbt. So you identifying as a woman has nothing to do with LGBT because that's your orientation?
Cristina: Well, if it's a. Well, I guess it now is. It's about all of it. It's all. It's about your sex, your gender and.
Jack: Your visit sex, gender and sex, gender and orientation. But that is a problem.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because being attracted to children is an orientation. It is what you like. So pedophiles would have to be part of lgbt? No, that's f****** crazy. You see the problem.
Cristina: Holes everywhere have to do with being a pedophile?
Jack: No, it's unrelated. I'm just. I'm just talking about the entire problem with the LGBT code we see. Is it. If it is about sex, yes, but.
Cristina: That'S, that's mental disorder.
Jack: If it's about orientation. Well, is it? Is it? If it is, I'm sure it is in many cases.
Cristina: Is it an ever kiss A mental disorder?
Jack: Yeah. You think there aren't people just genuinely attracted to children? What did we do before the 1800s when we invented the concept of a child? People didn't even catch on to that advancement. Some of our grandparents had your parents when they were like 13 brothers. Do you see the problem here? Is it a mental disorder? No. We invented being a child. That's a concept we made up kind of less than 200 years ago.
Cristina: But we make rules all the time and we're following these rules.
Jack: Well, that's not my point. I'm not saying it's okay to be a pedophile. I'm saying being a pedophile is a sexual orientation. That is a sexual preference. That is something you like to have.
Cristina: Sex with and you keep that to yourself and never tell anyone.
Jack: Yeah, sure. Whatever the case might be, the point being, if LGBT is inclusive of sex, orientation and gender, the problem is orientation is there. Which means any version of anyone attracted to another thing is an orientation. I'm sure people who are sexually attracted to cars have to be. They have to, because it's what you're sexually attracted to. You know, sex shame here because. But that's a problem if we don't. Sex shame here.
Cristina: There is some sex.
Jack: You see the issue. Okay, yeah, exactly. Issues for days. That's quite. That's quite the hefty problem.
Cristina: That's the plus. The plus is what we don't want to talk about.
Jack: Well, then this brings me to my next point. People got really angry at this video about this one girl who was trying to defend the concept, and this is terrible, but she was like, stop calling them pedophiles. It's offensive. Call them. What was it? Call them minor. A minor attracted person. Call them a minor attracted person.
Cristina: That sounds better, bruh.
Jack: Whether it sounds better or not, people freaked out on her. Because obviously you're trying to reframe the fact that the people you're talking about f*** kids. Burrow. But according to the logic of LGBT or no, it's as soon as we get the trans, it stops being, what the f***? Your orientation. As soon it's in the original set, it's problematic.
Cristina: Exactly. So you can't ignore it.
Jack: You can't break this apart.
Cristina: It was just lgb. No.
Jack: If it's lgbt, at least you're fine.
Cristina: But he's always there. I thought the problem was a T.
Jack: Well, no, the problem is orientation. The problem is the first three letters. Actually, it's elder B and the G. The G and the B. Because they're telling us what they like to. Yes, the problem is people were telling us what they like to.
Cristina: Yeah, that.
Jack: It's the trans people. I'm sorry, trans people. You weren't the bad people here. It was the. The gays and the lesbians and the bi people who are only attracted to gays and lesbians. Because one. That's only two things. And that's offensive inherently, I guess, right? Is that how that works? Because there's more than just two. If you're bi, you should be. But no, bi is inherently too this or that. That's what bi means.
Cristina: But that's why they got so many other words for bi. If you don't like bi, which I think bi shouldn't matter. I think bi should mean you like everything or not really. No, Pisa. It really depends on the person. It doesn't even matter. It's just a word.
Jack: I only like who identify as non binary or gender fluid.
Cristina: I guess. Then that's what queer is. Queer is you like super specific. I don't know. I don't know what queer is.
Jack: How do we even identify if queer is talking about sex or orientation? Is queer telling us you're weird about what you like? Or is queer telling us you're weird about how you feel? Like, I don't. I don't know. This is an unclear, fuzzy middle ground of sorts.
Cristina: I don't know. Cause I gotta look up the moon. Denoting or relating to sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality or gender, especially a heterosexual norm.
Jack: You see the issue here, right? You see the issue here? Sexuality and gender. Why? Why sexuality and gender? Why not just gender? Why are you telling us what you like to f***? That's a problem. Or if you're telling us what you like to f***, why are you telling us what's between your legs? And why the f*** are you telling us what you feel like? There's three parts here that shouldn't be all smashed together because we're what you.
Cristina: Think they should be completely different.
Jack: Yes. I think there should be a huge difference between orientation, which is what you like the f***, sex, which is what you have between your legs, and gender, which is what you feel like regardless of what you like the f*** and what you have between your legs. Why are they bunched and crushed into one thing?
Cristina: Because that's what the heterosexual people don't like. They kick them out and put them in that group. That group was made to protect each other from the people who are straight.
Jack: Straight, yes, from the straight dangers.
Cristina: Like that's the whole point of the group, is to protect the people in the group.
Jack: Was it.
Cristina: That was the original Spiders? Yeah.
Jack: Oh, crap. Interesting. So it has nothing.
Cristina: It's just protecting the weirdos? Pretty much. Not weirdos.
Jack: So why is being a rocker not in there? Why is it being like goth? Goths are just rejects.
Cristina: I don't think goths would be there.
Jack: I mean. No, they would inherently. So would the punks, but.
Cristina: Exactly. There's a lot of groups that just wouldn't.
Jack: They wouldn't group up with people who aren't them. I guess the group racists. I guess being goth is kind of being group racist. Because you're like my people. But isn't that what LGBT is? My people are many very different kinds of people. But these people.
Cristina: Yes. Well, these.
Jack: I choose my people based on how I like to dress and what music I like to listen to. I choose my people based on who they. What they feel like and what's between their legs. That's how. That's how I choose my people.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. There's many different ways.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: Different groups follow up. Okay.
Jack: It's a problem if people grouped up based on who they like the f***, how they identify and what's between their legs. And then they go dance in front of children. Sorry, that's a problem.
Cristina: Well, it's a problem dancing like dancing with children.
Jack: Yeah, it's a problem.
Cristina: None of that other part has anything to do.
Jack: Well, follow up.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Which one of these straight white CIS males is dancing in front of children?
Cristina: They're raping boys.
Jack: You're totally right. Except also I don't think any of those are straight white CIS males. Which then.
Cristina: Straight white CIS males who are in the closet.
Jack: Yes. Thus not.
Cristina: Well, they wouldn't say that. They would.
Jack: They would say they're. But they're not straight white.
Cristina: They are. Well, no.
Jack: Well, follow. Follow me in this train of thought. What is the fact of the matter? They're in the closet about being one.
Cristina: Gay, huh? No, not gay.
Jack: Why not?
Cristina: Gay pedos.
Jack: Why? So you could be a straight pedo or gay pedo. Depends what you prefer.
Cristina: Well, they're gonna. Okay.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So it is about. Regardless of whether it's your straight or.
Cristina: Kay.
Jack: It's about f****** something.
Jack: Right.
Jack: And like in your case, you immediately went to priests, I'm assuming because you said boys.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Right. So you would call them what?
Cristina: Pedophiles?
Jack: That are what? Which one of the two pedophiles are they?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Just pedophiles that like boys and pedophiles like girls. Pick one.
Cristina: What do you mean? Okay, he's a pedophile that likes boys would be a.
Jack: That's a gay pedophile.
Cristina: But they don't admit they're clout.
Jack: No, it doesn't have to. I'm asking you what they actually are. You're missing the point of my entire question. Yeah, so they're gay. Where's the not gay straight white guy? He's the girl. He's raping the girl. The little girl maybe.
Cristina: And the women? I don't know.
Jack: Yes, there's people. I mean, I. Is. No, rape isn't a. It couldn't be an orientation because that's not what the other person's identifying as or what they have between their legs. That's more situational.
Cristina: Okay, yeah.
Jack: I was saying like if. Could they include that? There's no way. But no, they can't. They can't. They can. They could include rape. It doesn't make sense. No, it's definitely. It could be a kink. Rape is a kink. Yes, it's definitely a kink. But the guys raping the children are. In the case of the priests, which isn't mass, and particularly against them are the left, who also support the gays heavily. But the. But the. But the priests aren't f****** little girls. They're gay. All of them.
Cristina: Yes. There's a difference though, because there. I don't know if it's. It's not really gay. It's some.
Jack: Is it that they could only get the children that are boys? Is that the problem? They can only get to. The boys are not allowed to teach girls these boys are gonna become priests? Is that what's happening?
Cristina: I don't know. I don't understand how that works.
Jack: Why is it not girls? Where are the girls? Why is it always a boy? That's my main question here. I suppose I'm trying to work through a lot of information at the same time.
Cristina: There's just a Lot of closeted gay people that just. They hide it so badly that they end up raping someone. I don't know.
Jack: Kids.
Cristina: Kids, yeah.
Jack: So let's revisit. Is the fact that people gather not just about how they feel on the inside or what's between their legs, but the fact that they also gather based on what they like to f***? A problem?
Cristina: Why is it a problem?
Jack: Because the priests are part of a group that seems to have gotten together because of what they like to f***.
Cristina: I don't think that's the same.
Jack: Why? Because it would be offensive to say otherwise. How is it different if the situation seems to be the same? If some of these people have.
Cristina: One of these people are being honest. One of these people are not being honest.
Jack: No, I get it. You're totally telling the truth. I'm not saying every priest. I'm not saying every priest. I'm saying that it's problematic enough and they seem to know where to go, which means people can gather based on what they like to f***. You know, you can find others like you if you like to f*** little boys. If you become a priest, you will by default come across that s***. And one of them n***** knows the culture. You might not know the f****** culture. You're new. You just discovered you like the f*** kids. But you know that this happens frequently enough.
Cristina: Well, we know that now. I don't know if people in. When they were. When this was actually happening, before people found out it was happening, that people were like, there was a secret rumor that it was happening. And this is where you go if you want to do this.
Jack: Like, no, no, no. I don't think anybody ever had to share that rumor. Because you can go back as far as you want into anywhere you want. Primarily, places I've gone include Italian history and Greek history and American history. There is no point in time you can go back to that. They weren't talking about people f****** kids and they were always priests. So the following question is, anybody could have concluded this. Is it a problem that people can gather based on sexually. On what they like to f***?
Cristina: If it's kids, Yes. I don't know. Like, that seems like the big problem. I don't see why normal adults can't be around other adults that have the same sexual orientation of them. If you like girls and you want to meet other girls who like girls, I mean, women, we should say, well, then, like, what is this?
Jack: Talks about the extreme leftism that we see when we have a person who is so far into this ideology. That we must be all inclusive all the time. That they then have to explain to you how to not call them a profile and instead call them a minor attracted person. Do you see how we're going in circles now? We're just landing back at the same things. But it's because it is problematic that sexual. Like what you're sexually attracted to is include that is an actual issue or remove it and make that a different group of people. And then we'll have to figure out why or how. I suppose we'll have to figure out how to remove the pedos from the fact that LGB is about sexual preference. But in order to do that, we have to break the problem up in the pieces and say, you guys, you who are saying, this is what I'm swinging, you need a team, your own team. Also the team you're on is kind of douchey to you. I don't know why you're still on that team that doesn't check out. It seems like you joined a bunch of a******* who treat you like s***. Divorce the LGBs and just be cooler somewhere else. The trans people who get treated crappy by the rest of the letters of the Alphabet and the straight people. It's like everybody treats them like s***. And it's like, you guys definitely deserve what everybody else is getting. And like, you shouldn't be treated like less than everybody else if they're all f****** claiming they're not crazy. You have every f****** right to do whatever the f*** you want without anybody saying s*** to you. The fact that people are still saying s*** to you and all the other s*** is still going on, that's a f****** problem. You should divorce this f****** team and start something better. That's to the trans people. Start something better because you joined a loser team for the people talking about gender, how you feel about yourself. You guys aren't even arguing the same thing anymore. Like. Like, go over there and start something else. Nobody. Like, stop trying. The problem people have with you is that you keep saying it's sexual. No. Identify as a f****** penguin for all anybody cares.
Cristina: I think the cue solves the problem and lets them all be in the group together.
Jack: No, because we're trying to break this apart so that we don't have pedos in there too. That's the problem. Stop trying to just. Because then we have to justify everything. The problem is we don't want to do that. We need to break this apart.
Cristina: Well, then what do you do with Q's? Because that's both you're it's whatever. You're, you're.
Jack: But isn't Q an added letter later? It was gel gbt. At first we're just talking about origin story here. Everybody else kept tacking on. But again, we didn't solve the original problem. That's still there.
Cristina: Was lgbtq? Was LGB first? Was it LGBT back in time? You want to find out?
Jack: Yeah. Because the ultimate problem.
Cristina: Wait, if it was just.
Jack: No, it would have to be. It would have had to have been three letters.
Cristina: It would have to have been three letters. I think.
Jack: Unless it was only made after trans was already a thing. That is a real question. But the point is we have to break the idea up, extract the f****** pedophiles, set them on fire, and send them the h*** the way Jesus would do it.
Cristina: Looks like it was lgb. Yes. LGB was used to replace gay and lesbian. It was short, I guess, to just say you're part of that group, you know, you don't have to say I'm gay or I'm a lesbian, man.
Jack: The trans people f***** up. They shouldn't have joined. They f***** up, dude. People are a******* to trans people for no f****** reason. And that s***'s ridiculous. Like what makes any of you any f****** different? I don't understand. It's super dumb. But lgb, so it was entirely about what you liked? Yes, Sexually. So they had their own group. People identifying what they like to tangle with. Great. And they made sure to mention the letters. Just us women who like women. Just us men who like men. And then just us of either one of those two things. Who likes both of those things. It was clean and simple. And then the trans people came in. Wasn't the same argument anymore. Now it became about what you said. Protection.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It stopped being about what I like to stick my parts in touch with. Now it's about what do I personally have as well as what I like to problematic. One, if you only had the future sight to know that people are gonna treat you like crap and you should definitely just back your people together and make a lot of noise so that you're accepted sooner. But you joined a bunch of people who were whining for way too long and not doing many moves, which the gay guy. I'll give it to the gay guys. The gay guys did way more than any other group in all of time. When it came to the. The Alphabet people. They made hella hella moves to the. To this. Till this day. Till this day that echoes and everybody else kind of piggybacked off of their movement because it was just lesbians and gays first, right? Just like they were, they were, they made everything. And then all these other people, like, yeah, we were there. And it's like, no, you weren't, you weren't. It's cool, bro. You got your own thing. That's fire. Go.
Cristina: Now it's everything.
Jack: But you can't. No, you can't say that. That's the problem. That's the problem we're trying to solve. Because it is everything.
Cristina: So we're not gonna.
Jack: You can't beat everything.
Cristina: And then it's gonna be ogb.
Jack: Unless we're. We're gonna write out every letter.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Do you see the problem here?
Cristina: And then every letter has its own groups, though. So then it would be.
Jack: No, no, no. This is how simple this is to solve it' so easy. Trans people have a group for anybody who's claiming what they have between their legs. Straight guys and straight women would also land in there. No, they wouldn't. Because they didn't transition into anything. I guess transitioning is just, you know, one or the other.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Gender people shouldn't get along with them because you say one thing or the other and then they're like, there's only one thing or the other I can show you with my operation, b****. Like, that should be the infinite discussion.
Cristina: Right?
Jack: Gender people just have their own group of people. I feel like this. I feel like that. Great. Sweet. Fantastic. Then people who are telling us what they are sexually attracted to, just give us your letters. Simple. Why? Because we are the, the between legs team. We are the gender squad. But there's people, listen, we're transitioners, we're gender squad. And then in the LGB group, they'll just be lgb. Why? Because you're telling us straight men who like women, they're telling us. I mean, straight men who like men, they're telling us straight.
Cristina: That's not straight.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Telling us gay men who like men, they're telling us gay women who like women. And they're telling us one of either who likes both. You've told us every combination.
Cristina: We should just not have any of it and just go to put everything back together, include the straight people in it so that we could just have what's your sex, what's your gender and what's your sexual orientation? Everyone can answer that. Whether you're straight, whether you're a man.
Jack: Well, that's what I'm saying.
Cristina: Except if we're talking about groups, you just have this thing that Anyone could be a part of. Because everyone is a part of.
Jack: Wouldn't that be groups?
Cristina: But it's not a unique group because everyone's in it. Yeah, it's like being a human. We're all human.
Jack: Yeah. I guess the ultimate conclusion here is that the point of every one of these things is to include. Exclude specifically white men. Because now being black is also in here. Right.
Cristina: And Hispanic.
Jack: And being Hispanic is being a woman in there too?
Cristina: I think so. It might be.
Jack: So the only people not included are straight white guys.
Cristina: See? See?
Jack: So it's already a stupid all inclusive racist thing.
Cristina: So then we actually. I don't know if women are in it, but whatever, it doesn't matter because it should just be. Just answer those simple questions and that's it.
Jack: Yeah, but people want groups and that's going to happen inevitably. So people want groups. Then let the gender. People have their gender. Let the transitioners have their transitions. And then when it comes to telling us what you like to interact with, stop at B. That prevents you from ever having to include pedophiles. Solution? Problem solving.
Cristina: How do you solve pedophiles? I don't understand.
Jack: No, no, you solve including pedophiles and you can still ostracize them and throw rocks at them and send them to prison so they can get shanked a couple of times. If you don't add it. If you don't merge all these things to the point that you can't listen. When you get to what you are sexually attracted to, your orientation. When you reach that, you need to tell us specifically if it's gender, whatever. We just g. It's cool, bro. When transitioning, T is cool, bro, because it doesn't affect anybody but you. You're just telling us about you. When you get to what you're gonna go touch, you gotta tell us. Because you're not going to allow pedophiles to join the team. You cannot. I understand 100% the concept of a child is made up. I get that. I fully understand. Yes. Every rule that's ever existed we made up. Every measurement that's ever existed, we made up. Word, sex and gender are both made up. And all the genders are made up a hundred million percent. And sexes are just random body parts we decided to specifically focus on. But everything we attach to it other than their functions are made up. So I'm fully aware that children are made up, but we've decided collectively.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That a certain thing is wrong.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And like we all see. Yeah, we feed like a hundred percent bro, you plead your case, bro. Feel free to be like, this is why I get to f*** good. But you know, just quick food for thought. Guy who felt the need to defend his stance, like, we also made up killing as bad. That's also made up, bro. No f****** thing came out of the sky and was like, that's bad, bro. And then it's like, you can prove that happened. No, that never f****** happened, bro. We made that up.
Cristina: If that was a true story, that's really sad that we needed someone to tell us. Yeah.
Jack: That would be tragic. If we. We're only moral.
Cristina: Cuz God, Yes.
Jack: We're only scared of punishment.
Cristina: Disappointing. If it's like, you don't do that because I said so. Like, he's like, yeah. If he didn't tell us, oh my gosh, the murder that would be happening right now.
Jack: Yeah. Right? Oh my God. I'm sure some Christians think like that if we didn't know about God, it'd be blood in the streets only.
Cristina: That would be so exciting.
Jack: So much blood in the streets.
Cristina: So sad. Okay, but what's the point? Pedophiles are bad.
Jack: Yeah, pedophiles are bad. And you don't want them on your team.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And like, I understand the children are made up. I get it. You want to plead your case. Cool. Cool beans, bro. But again, we also made up killing.
Cristina: Yeah. And like, I also don't want people who have sex with animals on my team or people who want to do cars. Although I think I'm a little bit more okay with people who want to do cars than I am. Why? Because the car probably doesn't feel anything.
Jack: That's fair. But if you, if you consider universal consciousness and a consciousness to every scale, everything has consciousness and there's something perceiving forceful and because we can't prove it's wrong, even if we can't prove it's true.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We should assume it's true in order to cause the least amount of harm.
Cristina: So that's equally as bad as doing an animal.
Jack: Yeah. Which is definitely as. Unless the argument is a child isn't really the younger the better. Because I kid, you know, they know less and they eventually you can pass a certain, like, sweet spot where, where they don't have a consciousness, man. And it's like, like that's not the logic. They're not conscious yet.
Cristina: The weird one is also with animals, like, what if the animal wants it? Then what? It's like it still feels wrong. Don't do it. But.
Jack: Well, okay, no this is, this is the argument with this. This is a real defense. And great that you would say that. So we can end this on a positive.
Cristina: Because, you know, a positive. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the argument here is. Well, now we're defending the children, explaining why the pedophile's f*****.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We're explaining why the rule of don't the kids exists. Okay. In the case of the animal, even if the animal wants it, there is a clear ginormous division of critical thought, understanding, information.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Between you and the dog. Even if the dog believes it wants it, it doesn't understand how way superior and manipulating the incense you could be.
Cristina: And it's the same with the child.
Jack: It is the same with the child. You are too far ahead of this child to affect anything related to this child. You are actively godlike by comparison. Because there's nothing but ignorance that needs guidance. And your guidance is to a dark place.
Cristina: Yeah, that's.
Jack: That's why it's bad. That's because they cannot say I want it and mean it. And it makes sense. That's the last part that matters. Because they can say they want it and they mean it. But it making logical sense. There's no way to prove that.
Cristina: No. Okay.
Jack: Because they couldn't understand. And if they can, you've gotta prove to me without a questionable doubt that you inherently and granularly, as a person this young have the intellectual and maturity capacities to process, fully understand and comprehend the information you are responding to and it remain within logical reasoning as you explain it. That's not going to happen. A child couldn't accomplish that task if they could. Bravo, you've won. Go do what you're gonna do. But it wouldn't happen. And because it wouldn't happen, f*** the pedophile. Yes, they're. It's abuse by default. You're abusing the ignorance. That's problematic. It's something ungodly. God wouldn't abuse the ignorance. That's why all the priests are gonna burn in h***.
Cristina: Why does it end up like that? All our episodes just priest hating. I'm sure there's one good priest.
Jack: I'm sure.
Cristina: I'm sure there is also at least one man.
Jack: Well, you talk to me. There has to be at least one good one, right? Hundred percent. Without a doubt. At least one good one, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay. That means that they're not raping kids, correct?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Okay. When George Floyd had a cop pressed against his neck and he couldn't breathe. The other three cops are innocent, right? Is that your Argument here?
Cristina: No.
Jack: Well, why?
Cristina: They were not hanging out with those other priests, watching them rape kids. I'm like, there's got.
Jack: Is the situation happening? Are kids being raped by priests?
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: Right. Is he aware of it?
Cristina: But I'm sure.
Jack: Answer the question. It's a yes or no question. Is he aware of it?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Is he still a priest? After being aware of it, I feel.
Cristina: Like it's still not the same.
Jack: How?
Cristina: I mean, like, if you are the.
Jack: Thing and you remain the thing, if you.
Cristina: You're seeing it in person, yeah, that's really problematic. But if it's like something happening across the world, why is that affecting you like that?
Jack: If it's happening around you and you're doing nothing about it in the church where the guy gets caught and then he gets ostracized, but because he got caught, how long was he doing that? Not getting caught? Okay, but all the other guys weren't saying, yeah, I doubt they didn't know.
Cristina: Yeah, okay.
Jack: Do you see the problem? How is that different from if you know and you're part of not saying and you're not leaving the situation to only leave the corrupt there, so it's easy to land on.
Cristina: Because what if you're part of a church that nothing has ever happened in?
Jack: That's fine. Then you have no reason to leave. But if you are somewhere where things have happened and you haven't left or ratted out anybody you've come across.
Cristina: Yeah, that's.
Jack: Then your issue is you're still there making it questionable. You should make it without a doubt that that's broken. So if you're the good guy, leave so that all the monsters stay together. And then everybody's like, oh, no, those are monsters. But because you're not doing it and you're there and they trust you, you're the lure.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: People are only attending that place because you're there. And then the kids are getting f*****. Now, you're not f****** the kids. In fact, you're not on top of George Floyd's neck. But George Floyd only has the confidence to walk up to the cop in the first place because he sees cops like the other three guys who would just talk to him nicely, but when the guy lands on his neck, won't say s***, they're the lure. They attract the confidence. They boost confidence in our kind and attract the trust of the people. And so that the cop who does lean on your neck does lean on your neck. Okay, so the priest who isn't the bat. Well, no, at least priest John's there. He's a good guy. He's not bad like all the rest. I can trust him. But he's not always watching your child. Everybody trusts that one priest. So everybody brings their children to that church. So everybody is expecting this one guy to do all the services for all their children. But he's not. And he's also not saying when he sees crazy s*** because he has a life that he wants to maintain. And the church can come down like. Like an angry God.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: It's a problem when people can gather based on what they like to have sex with.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: That's the point.
Jack: I think that's the point. Unless we can just label who they are. The lgb, they did it right? They were clear. We're being specific. F*** anybody who wants to talk about anything else. You can't question us. We're clear cut and precise. It got muddy when it got all inclusive. The gender should be their own thing, the transitioner should be their own thing, and the sex preferences should be their own thing. And then they can be specific so that when that P starts creeping towards you, you could be like, f*** out of here, bro. You're not. Yeah, okay, but you can't do that if you just got a random plus sign and everybody's included because you're just saying we accept any sexual preference.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Well, no, you don't do that. No, you don't do that.
Cristina: Okay, that makes sense.
Jack: I think that makes sense. I think that's a reasonable argument. We have to deconstruct this. Give them their own three teams and then make sure that f****** pedos don't enter that first team over there. Simple. I think I solved the inclusion of pedo problem. And it's not. You guys don't be inclusive. Be inclusive to your own people and kind of segregated from unrelated subject matter.
Cristina: Okay. Except there's people that are going to be in more than one.
Jack: You will 100 be in all three. Yeah, it just makes sure that the pedos don't. Okay, get into that other one.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because unquestionably the pedos still have a gender. Yeah, and unquestionably the pedos still have a sex. But you guys don't have to include him in s*** because it's not. It's not anything to say I have a d*** or a v*****. Who gives a s***? Sweet, bro. Now that's. You're just telling us who you are. That's cool, man. It becomes a problem when you're telling us what you want to do. To somebody and that somebody's a kid.
Cristina: Okay. Yes.
Jack: So we can stop that if we know you're there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But if you're just flying under the radar because there's that plus sign over there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's also why that the right is having a real easy time in calling the drag queens and the cross dressers pedophiles, because it's all bunched up. It's all the same s***. And they are dancing in front of children. That was a weird video. Either way, that was strange. And I'm sure they saw the same video. Yes, that's weird. I don't really know what's happening there. And like. Like, why is it happening too? Not just what's happening. Like, why. Like, this is educational. Is that, like, why is this in school, bro?
Cristina: There's a lot of trolls. It could be trolling in real life, if.
Jack: Fair enough. If it's actual trolling. Dude, Fire. Dude. This is confusing as probably ruined some kids in the process. Like, whoa.
Cristina: Do you think trolls care?
Jack: Trolls? I mean, it depends. A good troll is moral.
Cristina: There's a lot of non.
Jack: Well, I know it could be a pretty bad troll, but yeah.
Cristina: Anyways, trolls are scary. That's the lesson.
Jack: Yeah, Trolls are horrifying. But that was our. I guess that was our breakdown of LGBT or the LGBT rant.
Cristina: To not have A plus lgbt.
Jack: No plus rant.
Cristina: Not T lgb.
Jack: LGB dash T dash D. No.
Cristina: Lgbt. No. Lgbt. T dash Q. I don't know.
Jack: Alphabet people rant. Anyways, that's what I'm gonna call it, the Alphabet people rant.
Cristina: You know, Elon Musk calls it LGBT plus AI.
Jack: That's fire. Okay, but he is a troll.
Cristina: Yes, but also there are. There is an A and I in there for intersex and asexuals, but I don't think it's like AI.
Jack: The problem with an asexual being included.
Cristina: In here, it's also lgb.
Jack: That doesn't make any sense.
Cristina: That's lgbtgh.
Jack: That's a literal opposite of telling me what you like to have.
Cristina: It's the same with I like to have sex with nothing.
Jack: No, no, no. That's saying I don't like to have sex.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. Well, whatever. They want to be included, Leave them alone.
Jack: No, because that defeats the purpose. I mean, if you're gonna tack letters onto it. Yes, that's fine. They get a letter.
Cristina: What group do they belong to, though? If you separate the groups.
Jack: Yeah. They would belong to the group that states what they like to have Sex with. If you're gonna include them, I suppose.
Cristina: Okay. Even if they don't like to have sex.
Jack: Well, you wouldn't include them. But you're saying where would they belong? Where are they basically not belonging right now? Yeah, it's the group that's telling us what they like to have sex with.
Cristina: Which is lgb, because then they'll be by themselves.
Jack: They are the negative of that group.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They're the only person on the opposite.
Cristina: OGB minus. Not the minus.
Jack: Could be the A LGB minus. Yeah, that works. But again, it. No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work because LGB is telling us what they like to have sex with. That's not what's happening with asexual. Because asexuals don't like to have sex. It's inherently the opposite. It is literally in the most literal. It's like telling me atheism is your belief.
Cristina: Well, people do do that. People do do that. They will say that they're atheists and that's their belief.
Jack: I don't know. Well, it is a belief. But the question is, would the person argue that? Or we do be. If we're being literal as. Then no, the problem is. Yeah, I guess in that case, yes. If we're saying that atheism is a religion because it is a faith you have that you can't prove.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay, then.
Jack: Then, yes, it works.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And being an asexual is a religion.
Cristina: In this instance, it is something that we haven't touched. Something actually, besides, there's the. Okay, there's your sexual orientation.
Jack: Right. There's your gender.
Cristina: There's your gender, and there's your sexual preference. Yes, but there's also.
Jack: We know. Sexual orientation is your sexual preference.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: There's gender and there's your sex.
Cristina: There's also your. What's the newest one? Your romantic attraction, I guess? Sexual attraction. Romantic attraction, yes.
Jack: We're dividing sexually attracted and romantically attracted.
Cristina: Yes, they do that too. And they have their whole other words for those things too. So because you could be biromantic, which.
Jack: Means you can fall in love with either, but you only like to have.
Cristina: Sex with one or both. Who knows? Unless you're bisexual. Biromantic.
Jack: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Or you could be any combination of bi, romantic, heterosexual.
Cristina: Right.
Jack: That makes sense to me. Definitely. That's a bunch of bro.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Like a bunch of bros who are bro. Yeah, all the time. Like, you guys are pretty gay in.
Cristina: Love with that dude. And I want to have sex with that.
Jack: Yeah. Bromance. Bromances. Guys who are in love but not.
Cristina: I have no. Yeah, no.
Jack: Platonic assault.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: Yeah, you can be in love with the friend. I think that makes total sense.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: People fall in love with their children. They use that literal term to say that. And it's not on any sexual term. Like, there's a bunch of people who are like, oh, I saw my child and I fell in love instantly. It's like that's their instant reaction. They're romantically in love with their child but not sexually attracted to their child.
Cristina: So weird. Okay, so. Okay, we're done.
Jack: Yeah, I think that checks out. I think that that sums all of it.
Cristina: Figured it out. Okay, we finished. I think we said all we had to say. No, we didn't. There's so much to say.
Jack: Yeah, it's infinite. Anyways, Anyways. Anyways, we have talked to similar subjects in the past. We've talked about. Yeah, we had Anthony on the show for the Just Conversation podcast and talk. Talked about sexual attraction and trans and the gay community and stuff. And we've had episodes where we break apart our thoughts on this previously as well. And we've actually had some research episodes where we break apart the biology of some of this stuff. So you can find all of that stuff anywhere, but where? Everywhere. And you can talk to us.
Cristina: Give me specific locations.
Jack: Well, primarily what I'm trying to get to is that you can contact us to talk more about this particular episode. You can talk to us about this episode and ask us questions and tell us your ideas or tell us that you hate everything we talk about. You can find us on our socials at TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and Twitter, usconvopod.
Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.
Jack: Yes. And use your word of mouth and tell people about the show. It's important to talk to them about it.
Cristina: This has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye. We know the Atlanteans both were vastly in the Bermuda Triangle and in the Gulf coast, these advanced people broke into two groups. Either they migrated. Well, no, because the Great Flood also happened. During the Great Flood, the Atlanteans either went to space or were drowned out.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Dots.in Fox, art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.
