Guest Hunter Hancock of Meat Canyon animations joins the thinkers to discuss motivation to create and how many people struggle to break from their cycle of excuse making in order to pursue their dreams in the first place. We all want the success but refuse to do the grind and hard work that’ll lead us to it in the first place. First the philosophers discuss the Marie Kondo 30 Books craze and how the social structure is of outrage culture at the moment. Then, Jack has a sit down with cartoonist Hunter Hancock of the animation Youtube and Instagram channels ‘MeatCanyon’ to discuss art, creation, motivation and goals. The creator discusses what interests him about art in the first place. His views on mainstream art and the over-saturation of money fueled safe art instead of risky creativity.