Rambling 279: Stonehenge

Why does Stonehenge look so familiar? Who built this interesting structure? What was its ultimate purpose? The duo accidentally stumble upon Stonehenge while investigating cold spots for paranormal activity. Between familiar designs to identical functions, the similarities and purpose of this place becomes way more obvious than could have ever been anticipated. 

Rambling 279: Stonehenge

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  • Stone Configuration
  • The Avenue
  • Legends and Folklore
  • Similarities to other Structures
  • Records, Documents and Texts

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. Hahahaha. Baffling day will be in fact.

Cristina: Haha.

Jack: Why, if I were some sort of a mime thing. Not a mime. What do you call it when you stick your hand up a doll's a** and you. He's not a mime, he's a puppeteer. Ventriloquist. First of all, I've never thought of this before, but have we in society sort of classified these two people in the same group? They're kind of like doing something, but also is like, what you're doing is impressive but unacknowledgeable.

Cristina: What?

Jack: The mime and the ventriloquist. Have we been treating them like equals? Kind of like, yeah, you're here, but like, f*** you guys. And not a direct f***** you, like cool, but like passively cool. You're not even like, inherently cool. It's just passively cool. Yeah, like, yeah, I'll stop and look at you for like a minute, for.

Cristina: A second, I don't know.

Jack: And then I'm gonna continue on my way. Regardless how impressive what you're doing might be. Outside of my point, this is a show where we ground stuff. And that doesn't mean that we take things from the ground or that we put things on the ground in the ground in a literal sense. Because in a metaphoric sense, we literally mean. In a metaphoric sense, we literally mean we grab things and put them on the ground. That's what we mean in a metaphoric sense. We mean literally, metaphorically, that we would grab something and put it on the ground so that it's like based. Okay, no, but we don't mean it literally.

Cristina: Even though you're saying literally.

Jack: No, no, no, we don't mean it literally. We mean it metaphorically, but we mean that metaphor literally. Okay, so we're literally meaning that metaphor, but we're not meaning the sentence literally. No, we're meaning the metaphor literally. Of course that we're grounding these thoughts. We're putting them on the ground anyways.

Cristina: We're starting off with like pictures.

Jack: Yes, yes, we are. You get it.

Cristina: Oh, snap.

Jack: You get it. Have you been having fun with the new mysterious? It's always more mysteries. Have you been enjoying this new format?

Cristina: Yes, I guess, because it's very Strange.

Jack: It is, but it's the fact that this keeps happening.

Cristina: It's everywhere.

Jack: Yeah. So I want you to tell me and the listener, I love this because I never put the image up. I tell them I'm always gonna put it up. But nobody puts it up. None of us put it up. Nobody puts anything up. The notes go up. Nothing goes up. Nobody puts anything up. So we're gonna describe this image. You're gonna describe this image. I know exactly what this is. I had to. Yeah, but you're gonna tell me what you're saying.

Cristina: I can't tell what's in the middle. I see. It looks like grass. It's a bunch of. It's just. It's very plain, grassy looking, with a circle.

Jack: So describe the grass. What are we talking about, grass wise?

Cristina: I'm not sure. Grass green.

Jack: Yeah. Like what? Where?

Cristina: Where? I don't know where. This is in the middle of nowhere.

Jack: How is the grass distributed?

Cristina: There's a lot of lines everywhere.

Jack: Is it plains? Is it a field? Is it a golf course? Is it a.

Cristina: It could be a golf course. I don't know. But there's a circle with two lines coming out of it. And then two lines come going over that line. But in the circle, I'm not sure what's in that circle. Is it trees? Can you tell what that's.

Jack: Yeah, I know what's in there.

Cristina: Are those trees, though?

Jack: No, I'm not answering that question yet.

Cristina: Not rocks? I don't know. And the two lines that are going out of the circle, there's something, some other type of path going through it. That. Not grass. Is it a road? It might be a road. I'm not sure.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: But everything else. The lines that are in the grass don't look like road lines. Those are, like, I don't know, biker lines. Maybe someone made it with a machine. But, like, grass is still there. So it's been a while. There, the lines.

Jack: Okay. Yes.

Cristina: And that circle is not perfect. Like, it looks like it's cut up in one side of it. But I don't know if that relates to anything. Okay. And I don't know.

Jack: All right, now give me some theories.

Cristina: What do you think this is something related to UFOs?

Jack: Why?

Cristina: Because it's a circle in a field.

Jack: Interesting. So it's a field.

Cristina: Maybe, but it's very plain. So maybe it's more like a fairy thing because they like to do it in planes.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Circles and planes are fairy related.

Jack: Like what?

Cristina: Like what? Like that. I don't know.

Jack: Yeah. Like what reference? What you're talking about fairies and planes.

Cristina: Yeah. Make circles, I think. And then they usually. What's in the middle of them? I don't know. It looks like trees to me.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Are we looking at it? Far away?

Jack: Say it again.

Cristina: Is this far away? Are we far away from whatever object is in the middle of that circle?

Jack: Yes, we're very far away.

Cristina: So I can only imagine that it's trees, but there's something sticking out. A bunch of something. I guess it could be rocks. It could be one of those things where people put weird rocks, like the stone hedge. But I feel like it's still fairy related, not alien related. Especially if it's. I don't know. I don't know. There's something because, like, when it's alien related, there's nothing in the circle. It's just, whoa, a circle. And then. But because there's something in the middle that makes it also feel like it's more fairy related.

Jack: I like the pattern you're spotting here. I've never thought of this before. We have discussed many alien instances. All their things are very exact lines. There's never objects in them. That is correct. We've also discussed fairies to extensive, deep, extensive details.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And they always have something in the middle, and it's usually a circle. You're totally right. I like all the things you're pointing out here.

Cristina: So. Am I even close?

Jack: What do you think it is? Three guesses. It doesn't matter.

Cristina: Is that what they're called?

Jack: Or fairy trees. Okay, well, fairy trees are in the Isle of Man. Okay, go on.

Cristina: Okay. It's. So it could be a UFO circle. Anyway. Even if there's something there, like maybe things grew in there after a while. Anyway.

Jack: 100%. 100%. Like, what the h*** are we looking at? Right? They favor fields.

Cristina: And if it's just. If it's unrelated to either, then I don't know, a real nice, interesting gardening pattern.

Jack: Okay.

Cristina: It's possible. I don't know why you'd want to talk about someone who did.

Jack: You are absolutely right about a lot of this.

Cristina: Stones.

Jack: Stonehenge.

Cristina: It was Stonehenge. That poor photo is Stonehenge.

Jack: That's photo Stonehenge. Think about everything you've spotted here that we are very informed in right now.

Cristina: So far, you can't even tell that there's stones.

Jack: Yes. That's not even the point. You spotted every. Everything that mattered about this. All the similarities, every f****** ounce of everything that mattered you saw in this image.

Cristina: It's very Bad image?

Jack: Very. It was important this. The distortion of this image mattered. I chose it intentionally because it was very small, and then expanding it made it very hard to see what was in the middle. So that you don't fixate on what was in the middle. I know how you work.

Cristina: That's so crazy, because you can't really tell. Yeah.

Jack: It looks like a blob of whatever.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But you noticed everything else that mattered about that, right?

Cristina: Those things matter, though.

Jack: Every bit of everything you spotted mattered. And a lot of these similarities are like, But the question is, how did we get here? Right.

Cristina: It's not fairies. It's fairies. The answer.

Jack: Well, let me answer the question.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: How do we get on this road to begin with?

Cristina: With the hole in America.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Or I guess even before that. If we're starting from the beginning.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: It was that lady's house. Yeah.

Jack: We're just looking for distortions in space time.

Cristina: And you think there's a distortion here? There's stories about this place.

Jack: That's exactly what the landed me here. And that's what's throwing me off. Because then you look at it and then you're like, huh? Before I even read a story, I know who showed up here. I know what they saw, potentially just based on what I'm looking at.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: Yes. Give me some guesses and I guarantee you're gonna be on the nose of what the stories relate. Just looking at the shape of that. Give me one creature. Just make it an educated guess. Think about it. Don't go out of the blue based on what you're looking at. Make it one educated guess. Just one educated guess. You're going to be right. There's enough variation that fixates on this that you won't be wrong.

Cristina: I'm not sure what you mean.

Jack: One creature. One creature.

Cristina: The. Based on what you're looking at, creature and not fairies.

Jack: Not a fairy, but a creature that 100% you think could.

Cristina: Shadow Realm creature, or you're saying anything.

Jack: Anything you'd like. What comes to mind? What would show up? Whatever you want.

Cristina: Werewolves.

Jack: 100%. Yes.

Cristina: Okay. I don't know what.

Jack: So Stonehenge seems to be among the top 10 most active places that have ever existed. When I dive into what Stonehenge is, we're gonna be like, oh.

Cristina: Now more than just like what they say of like, it's a calendar in a way.

Jack: Okay, let's go straight to that. It's a calendar in a way.

Cristina: So. Yeah, that's enough of that.

Jack: Yeah. Calendar. That is the Sort of basic narrative we get. Right. That's the accepted narrative.

Cristina: You can see the passing of the seasons on certain points or something.

Jack: The light comes in between the sort of rock formations and that it works kind of like a clock, but for months at a time. And seasons. And that's it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Just a clock for months and seasons. Pretty basic, Pretty simple.

Cristina: Yes. I mean, it's still kind of complicated because it's so ancient to be doing that, but. Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, a hundred percent. And that's really, really, really badass about it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But then I just gotta ask some basic questions. When you think about what it looks like, what does it look like?

Cristina: What does it look like?

Jack: What? Describe what Gates. Stonehenge.

Cristina: It looks like gates. They're gates.

Jack: Tell me the complicated nature of this. This is absurd, right? Just knowing what we know in general, why is it that we see this formation that's happening here? So now we got a close up look. Describe the current image we're hovering over. Describe what Stonehenge really looks like as we see it today.

Cristina: A bunch of stones. Two stones. Two long stones going up, one stone on top. Like a gate because there's like space in between each one. How many are there? Because there's one in the middle, one on the outside. And it looks like there could have been. There's a little bit in the middle too, but that could have just been the. The ones that were in the middle broken up. So because it looks like a lot of them are no longer there.

Jack: Here's a better angle directly from on top. And to show this is gonna be.

Cristina: A perfect circle like it was once upon a time.

Jack: Mm. Mm. Yes. Yes, it was.

Cristina: Why? Why don't they want to fix that? That's so cool.

Jack: They can't touch it. No, it's ancient.

Cristina: No, they should. They should definitely. Oh, my gosh. That's also part of it.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay. Because I thought they were all separate stone doors or whatever you want to call it. Man, I wish we knew what the middle part would have looked like. I'm guessing it would have been similar, but it's hard to tell now because it's. It's so. It's pretty gone. Just the outside layers more together.

Jack: Pretty interesting, right?

Cristina: Yeah. Gates.

Jack: It looks like a bunch of gates put together.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So is that the case?

Cristina: Yes. No. I don't know. Yeah.

Jack: You think it's a bunch of gates stacked together.

Cristina: But who would that be for the shadow realm?

Jack: There's observations that must be made about this in the first place.

Cristina: Like where's he located?

Jack: Fair enough. Let us go all the way to the beginning and talk some rough details. Right. First again seeking space anomalies and space time disturbances. We get here and I got here because I found a bunch of weird stories which we'll get into. But it led us to Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire, England. That's where Stonehenge is. Had you asked me where this was, I would have never in a million years known. I would have thought one of these random countries or people yodel or some s***, ya know. Okay, now make a random guess at when this was built. We're gonna start where it matters.

Cristina: Where did it start? I don't know. It has to really. It's. Sure. I'm sure it's related to the sea people somehow. But like I can't pinpoint it.

Jack: Put random year on it.

Cristina: The. The year Jesus was born.

Jack: That's the year one.

Cristina: Okay. Year one.

Jack: No, way longer ago. This is the year 3000 BC. Pretty holy s*** kind of amounts of time back. Yes, let's talk details. 72 stones fill the outer circle. In the complete version, if you fill it out and you create a design that is perfect and flawless without any stones missing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: 72 stones fill the outside. It is in fact a full circle.

Cristina: Okay. Was the inside supposed to be the same though?

Jack: 15 arcs would form out of these 72 stones. That's two up one over every time.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: 15 arcs will form the 16 sort of doorways. Like you said, they all look like gates. Yes, specifically like Shinto gates. They all have that same kind of flat top to very stable side entrances or whatever.

Cristina: This has to do with the Shadow Realm people. That's not my new guess, but. Okay, continue though, right?

Jack: Like there's something to it too specific going on here. Now, more importantly, and where my fixation rests, here where the most important. Again, why first? What the h***? Fifteen. I don't think those are games. Not the 15 on the outside. Right.

Cristina: What's in the middle?

Jack: In the middle there are five and those are not connected. The ones on the outside creating the sphere or not sphere, but circle.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Are all connected. They all share. Each one vertical shares two horizontal and that continues all the way around.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But in the middle, each one arc is formed of three parts directly. They don't connect. They are set into a sort of horseshoe formation.

Cristina: Okay, and you said. How many of them are there?

Jack: Five would complete the sort of primary inside part.

Cristina: And that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And then there's just an open space in the middle yes.

Jack: Now, do you remember what you saw in the other image I showed you? It was a circle. With what.

Cristina: The first image?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: The very first image was a circle with two lines coming out of it.

Jack: Right. Is that something those two lines, they're important. That you saw were connecting. I mean, think about what you're looking at. Here's Stonehenge in the middle. There's a giant circle surrounding Stonehenge. There's two lines shooting right out of Stonehenge. I'll shrink this. Maybe you get a better view of what's going on.

Cristina: Oh my gosh. Oh, wow. Stones. There's more gays.

Jack: Those two lines are engraved in the ground and those two lines connect directly to the river.

Cristina: What's for.

Jack: That's not the important part. It's not even that they line up and did they connect to the river. It's what they line up with. What they line up with the summer and winter solstices.

Cristina: Yeah. That's why people watch that when it happens. People just live stream.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Watch it.

Jack: Now let's think about this real quick because you know of something else that fits both the suits we're talking about right now?

Cristina: That's when the spirits are easily come out. Right. Is that it? I don't know. Close like.

Jack: Yes, close like. Do you remember something familiar directly connected the two solstices with two of them? Yes. I can give you the reminder if you need it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But if you can remember.

Cristina: It's not that what I said. No, it's relating to the two solstice. I'm not sure.

Jack: Okay, so if you remember, a long time ago, we were talking about El Castillo created by the earth gods, which is essentially a temple where the very entry of the temple is lined up with the autumn.

Cristina: But that was also because we thought it was a gate.

Jack: It was a gate. It was a gate to the Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: And to Mount Cuff.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Think about the shape you saw and the fact that this one we're looking at is not lined up to autumn and spring, but rather to summer and winter. And it looks like a what?

Cristina: A pyramid?

Jack: Like a pyramid.

Cristina: Oh, I thought you were talking about the other one. Oh, that. What does that look like?

Jack: Yes, the one we're talking about right now. The giant circle surrounding Stonehenge is very different than the sort of pyramid requirements to reach the Shadow Realm. Pyramids seem to reach the Shadow Realm. We see mountains, we see pyramids. The Shadow Realm. But circles seem to be associated with what?

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: You were just talking about it. What the h*** do you mean fairies?

Cristina: Fairies. Okay.

Jack: Circles and fairies. I don't know why, but the geometry says circles and fairies and pyramids.

Cristina: In the shadow realm, pyramids and the.

Jack: Shadow pyramids always either connect to the shadow room or teleportation. Okay, we don't have pyramids leading us to the fairies. Okay, but circles always have the portals that take us to the fairies.

Cristina: Mm. But it doesn't take us to the fairies.

Jack: It takes the fairies to us. Yes, but it's a way. It's a doorway.

Cristina: Yes, but only for them.

Jack: Point is that we see fairies connected with circles and we see djinn connected with pyramids and diamonds and triangles and those kinds of shapes. Okay, so it's just a random pattern. I've been noticing, tossing that in there.

Cristina: Okay, but what about the circles we were seeing. Seeing in that farm?

Jack: Which farm?

Cristina: The farm with the circles that were moving around.

Jack: Yes, that's then when the question comes into play. Right.

Cristina: Because that had nothing to do with berries.

Jack: Well, we don't know that. Think about the fact that we saw both a square in the ground.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Which, when you funnel it becomes a pyramid and a circle. Both of them were at that ranch.

Cristina: That's very strange.

Jack: Yes. It wasn't one. It was both. A circle in a triangle.

Cristina: You think, together.

Jack: The same kind of sort of indentation in the ground.

Cristina: But it's different time periods. So it wasn't like they were hanging out at the same time together or anything.

Jack: It's just.

Cristina: It's the random.

Jack: It's the best spot to do it because of the activity there.

Cristina: Yeah, but this is. This is probably 100 fairy release.

Jack: This is 100 fairy.

Cristina: Okay, now or not 100.

Jack: I wouldn't say 100 fairy.

Cristina: Because other things pop up.

Jack: Everything pops up.

Cristina: Everything.

Jack: It's.

Cristina: It's a hot spot. Like the other things. The other locations.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: We've been talking about.

Jack: Yes, but what you gotta question is then why are there so many similarities? Right. We have the lineup with the solstices, but the opposite too. Instead of autumn and spring, it's winter and summer. So the deviation, immediately something changes. Yeah, because now we're not sharing the same solstices, but we're also not sharing where we're going. Something about that alignment connects directly to either the shadow realm or the fairy Elfame. Fascinating. Just a bit of information we've uncovered.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: Some sort of something means that spring and autumn, Shadow, summer and winter. Elfame. I don't know how. No, I don't know what. How this connects. But that seems to be the case.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: For whatever reason, very random observation. But throwing it out there, something we know now, maybe it'll connect in the future.

Cristina: Yeah, in the future.

Jack: You know, just saying it out loud. Maybe somebody tells us something. The message like, hey, what about the. What the.

Cristina: And then it's like, oh, how did we not notice?

Jack: How do we not notice? So something about lining up does matter.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And you have to line up with the sun, the way the sun is tossing energy in your way. And how you're using the energy creates some sort of a riff.

Cristina: Yes, but the sun is just very powerful thing that everyone's figured out how to use. Besides us.

Jack: Besides us.

Cristina: I mean, we're figuring it out, but, like, we're not. Like, compared to the Egyptians in the ancient time with their pyramids, like, come on.

Jack: Yeah. No, we're definitely kind of whack. But maybe they took this long.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We don't know. Like, it's. We don't know at what point they were at what. And, like, also, all of them got cheated. They got extra. Not cheated. But they got to cheat.

Cristina: They got to cheat.

Jack: Yeah, we can't compete with that. They got.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They themselves are like, oh, yeah, they. Something helped us. Yeah, like, come on, bro. What's helping us? But then again, everybody feel like, oh, we're taking technology from the aliens.

Cristina: Yes, we are cheating too.

Jack: Then we suck.

Cristina: Then we thought, yeah, if everyone cheated.

Jack: Guys, look, let's say we're not cheating and we're doing it all on our own. Let's just. Let's take that credit. Because we have to say we're cheating. Yeah, if we gotta say we're cheating, we're bad about cheating. Come on, man. Come on, man. If we're just bad, then we're not bad. We're amazing. We're doing it on our own.

Cristina: We are really good. Because it's not us. It's these people who are good at hiding it. Like, we know there's the technology that people have that are teleportation. We know that's there. We have. We don't have it. But there's humans that do have it.

Jack: That we came up with.

Cristina: Those humans came, like, in the farm. They figured it out in the farm. Yeah, Scientists. They're humans who can do it.

Jack: Yeah. Without the question is without alien help.

Cristina: Well, with alien help by, like, they were investigating the weirdness, and that helped them.

Jack: Yeah, fair enough. That's usually how it goes. Right? It's science.

Cristina: And now they can live in space and we have no idea about it because we're not one of them.

Jack: That's f****** nuts. Right? The fact that they. Oh man. It's so nut. But this is kind of the same s***. Right? This is just way up there.

Cristina: Tech. Yes.

Jack: And then here's the thing. Here's the f****** thing. That's craziest. We've heard a thousand times that technology sufficiently enough advanced just seems like magic.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: God. Could that not be more true the more you dig deep. This just looks like lines in the freaking. But think about everything. This is a transmutation circle of sorts. That's all it is. It's channeling energy.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that energy is lined up with the solstices. We've seen this before. El Castillo has the stairs completely lined up with the doorway in a slightly variation. Open so that it's tighter towards the door, more open towards the base. And then the walkway itself continues that expansion. Then has a little bubble and then spreads out. So it is self is in the form of a transmutation. The field that they designed around it. Transmutation.

Cristina: And the steps are weird too, aren't they? Like they're really big or something.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: All of it for humans.

Jack: Yeah. The steps are abnormally large and in odd patterns. It's like everything is designed with these sort of geometric shapes in mind. All of it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But when it's a gate or you go somewhere that already has a shape. Someplace tall enough that already has a very triangular shape.

Cristina: Talk about a mountain.

Jack: A mountain. How would you compensate for the mountain if you wanted to make a fairy gate? Because now we can differentiate. We know what a shadow gate looks like. It's some sort of a Shinto fairy gate.

Cristina: I guess so. But like the one in the house. What did that one look like? If we can picture what the inside of the house looked like.

Jack: It was. There's. That's the most f***** problem. We have no idea which side she was inviting in. We assumed Shadow Realm.

Cristina: Really?

Jack: But it could have been either or and both. Because there was no description to anything. It was an empty room. There was just a little shrine area in the corner. And the hooks. That's it. Nothing more. No description. I have no idea what she could have been doing. But the house itself was a giant shape.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: In this same case. It's the same idea. It's a bunch of structure surrounding some kind of more important center. Like the seance room. This pattern representing itself again. And it looks too obviously like a gate here though.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But now 15 doorways. I don't think they were doorways. Maybe something else, some help channeling.

Cristina: But five doorways?

Jack: At least five doors. That brings up a problem. Why five doorways?

Cristina: So, okay, you think it should just be one doorway?

Jack: It should be three. Well, it should be two, depending on where you are. Unless it's multiple doorways, the same realms. It's not like a realm doorway as much as it is like, well, that one goes to the Shadow Realm here. That one goes to Shadow over there. That one goes to Elfame. Those two go to other parts of Earth Realm, you know, because there's five and you're already in earthrealm. Do you see? Okay, so there's five destinations. You'd only have two other realms to go to. So they aren't realm portals directly. Unless they are they, you know, more than one repetition. It could just be like Mount Kaf goes here, and this is Mount Olympus and this is Athos.

Cristina: That's if it's ferry related. It has more to do with what's on the other side. Like, they're not all coming here through the same place.

Jack: What do you mean?

Cristina: Well, the people that are living in the ferry place, if the humans there, I guess. Humans?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They're not in. Why are they going through one gate into here? Wouldn't they go like a bunch of different places? Like, I don't know, like if you and a friend from Korea want to take a gate to, I don't know, gta. You just. You, you do it where you're at, but you still meet in the same spot.

Jack: I understand what you mean. I understand what you mean. So she's Korea, I'm here. We both go in through our gates and we're going to like, Las Vegas.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we both just pop up in Las Vegas. But there's two different doorways. So there's the Korea doorway and there's my doorway.

Cristina: Yeah. Because I don't know what the Parry world works like, but, like, if it's.

Jack: Like that, if it's another layer, then yes. And what this is showing us is that that argument holds more water. Because why can't they just pop up? Why do you need a door? We need a door to get to you. Why do you have a you made door? You wouldn't need to make a door.

Cristina: Well, they've always needed a way in.

Jack: Which also explains the seeing of the. Because we already know that there are the fairy forts that are made by fairies, which have the grass, the trees, circles.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then one tree in the center, it's a wall. Of trees. Perfectly. Then an empty grove in the middle with one tree in the center. And all of them look identical. And then the Mad Maid fairy forts that we just craft around an empty field. And then boom, a tree shows up in the middle following the same idea.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they need something to get.

Jack: They've always needed some sort of a path. Which means they can't just hit a button and show up.

Cristina: But whatever they. When they do make a path here, there's no way for us to use that path. Which besides the necromancers, who's figured out. But they really can't go in it either. They just.

Jack: They have another way.

Cristina: They have another way.

Jack: Yeah, but here is the thing. Think about what you just described and tell me how is that any different than a Shinto gate?

Cristina: What do you mean?

Jack: From over there, you can come over here. What happens if you walk in through a Shinto gate on this side?

Cristina: Go to Shadow?

Jack: Since when?

Cristina: Oh, not us.

Jack: No, Nobody. Nobody goes in through a Shinto gate and goes to the Shadow Room. It's a one way gate.

Cristina: It's a one way gate too. Yes, that's true. Okay.

Jack: They're both just one way gate. So you can only come from that side, this way. You can't go from this way, that side.

Cristina: Well, they may. They maybe can.

Jack: As far as we know, we can't go through it.

Cristina: Yes, but they could probably use those gates back.

Jack: Yeah, but I was only kind of answering to the fact that you said it looks like a one way gate.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So.

Jack: Yeah, I could totally. Yeah. I don't know if you want to argue your own point. Sure. Yeah. My point was.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: If it is a one way gate, how is that any less one way than a Shadow Realm gate where they can only come in?

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: You know. Yeah. It's exactly the same idea. So there's too many similarities here to ignore. Now let's break apart some of these details. Other than the size and the fact that we got five doorways, which brings up a thousand questions. I hope it's more than one destination in the same realm. Because then I'm confused about. Then what the h*** are the other three doorways? Because, okay. Elfame and Shadow. And then what were the Norse people closer to it? And it was closer to seven. They had five or seven or nine.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: If there are two doorways that are purely different destinations and the other three are supposed to be different destinations, then. Holy. But again, it could most likely just be like Earthrealm Destination 1, Earthrealm Destination 2, and Shadow Realm Destination 1, Shadow Realm Destination 2, and Alfame. Or all elfame destinations. You know, it could just be whatever. Who knows?

Cristina: Yeah. And be impossible to know.

Jack: Yeah. The lines coming from the structure, the ones lined up with the solstice, are called the avenue.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Just giving that information if you feel it's relevant. It consists of groves and connecting lines, and they connect to the nearby river near Stonehenge. Now, where I landed here initially was looking for disturbances and things. I did find weird disturbances and things. And you dive into these reported oddities. You would find reported oddities very quickly. This is when temperatures drop suddenly in climate. You just go ahead and go into the Weather Channel, find a location just like, okay, where. Where have there been abnormal spikes that you guys have been like, huh? And then there'll be weird registrations, and you can like, oh, what year was this? Or whatever. Now, when you do that, you can find consistent spots of weird kind of activity like that. And then if you go and find. Sometimes it's nothing. 99% of the time, it's nothing. It's like, well, you're in a weird hole that you can't really tell in the map. And so wind always works this way here. And so there's an updraft that always sends all the hot air up, and then this causes all the cold air down. So it's abnormally cold here always.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And it's like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. But sometimes you're in a place where that shouldn't be happening. Like a giant empty field in the middle of nowhere. There should be no cold air just suddenly collecting different than the surrounding areas.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So when that does happen, maybe you.

Cristina: Look into it and also what's happening.

Jack: Yeah. And so you look into the fact that, like, holy. So this place is just a giant cold spot place, and it's already Stonehenge.

Cristina: That's pretty strange.

Jack: I got here through the cold, and then I'm like, holy. Really?

Cristina: No, we got there through the cold.

Jack: I got there through the cold. I wasn't like, oh, Stonehenge. How weird is this place? It's like, it's Stonehenge, and we're just weird people who. It was probably really easy to build, and we're just like, What a mystery. Except, d***. Okay. Like, everything was justified the deeper you dig. Yeah, fair enough. Everybody was right. It's weird. Weird. It's strange.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: I was hypocrite. I'm like, everybody's an idiot and easily Impressed. And we could have probably built this easily. It was like definitely. It's not about that. We could have definitely 1000% have built it. That's not the point. It's what it looks like, where it is and why. That's where it's like, oh f***. Yeah, we could have built it. But why did we build it? Why, why did we built it? So the legends that got me here initially there was a story about the devil that bought these stones from a woman.

Cristina: The devil somewhere.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That bought these stones from a woman and he bought the stones in Ireland and he brought these stones from Ireland and he took these stones and he placed them here and he was to humiliate the woman. Salisbury Plains, by the way, is the part in England where it is Salisbury Plains in England. So he puts them there, positions him and he's like, hahaha, nobody's ever gonna know why these are here. Yeah, she's never gonna, she's gonna tell everybody. Oh, he tricks me and he put them there and nobody's ever gonna believe her. And the people who do find these are never gonna know why they're here and it's gonna be ridiculous. And hahaha. That's like a real folklore story. I don't understand sort of the premise of it, but yeah, like, the devil tricked her. It's probably some sort of like money moral story. Don't give your money to the devil because going to humiliate you.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Or some like that.

Cristina: That works. Sure.

Jack: Now, dancing stones, there were some ballerinas or something. Giants. Because of the area where. And keep in mind the area we're talking about is England. So we're right next to Ireland, right next to like the northern part of Europe where we're getting like weird fringe and like we got the, the Vikings up there and crap like that. So giants. Giants.

Cristina: Do they mean giants as in giant giants?

Jack: They mean tall giants. Not as the right. Nephilim. Giants.

Cristina: Okay, just checking.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: But also Nephilim were huge too. That they could be both sizes according to some. So whatever the case might be. But giants the words.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And so that these stones were actually giant ballerinas dancing that had been petrified suddenly. And so that's what it looks like. They were in the middle of choreography.

Cristina: And then something just scared them.

Jack: Something not scared them, petrified. Turn them to stone.

Cristina: Turn them to stone. Oh, okay. Was it Medusa? Okay.

Jack: Don't know.

Cristina: What a weird story.

Jack: Another story is that they were placed there by deities or something and had Healing properties, you know, basically.

Cristina: I'm sure. Sure.

Jack: That's the obvious one, right? Yeah, I see. I like. I don't like the duh. But then I came across a sentence where I was like, okay, because. Because that. To that point, I'm like, okay, maybe there's cold spots and stone change, but.

Cristina: Like, there's nothing there.

Jack: This is stupid. Yeah. Like, it's getting pretty dumb. There's nothing. And you look at these stories deeper, you dive into any of them, and it's like, you guys are crazy. There's no basis here for anything. It doesn't connect anything. It doesn't make sense. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. It's legit folklore.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Until the title of one story, I didn't even have to jump into story yet. It said the fairy Stone, which just justified so many things I already had in my mind.

Cristina: The Fairy Stone.

Jack: Yeah. I already looked at these and I'm like, I see what this is. And I'm already like, yeah, exactly. And I'm like, this circle. Huh? I see what this is. I see a gate. I see fairies, you know?

Cristina: Yeah, I see.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. It's all there. I see weird things. And then this person's like, the Fairy Stone.

Cristina: I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Okay, but say more interesting.

Jack: So this local legend was basically that fairies built this place, and it literally. Literally. The legend is not me adding any sauce to this, that it serves as a portal to the fairy realm and other realms.

Cristina: And other realms.

Jack: Yeah. But okay, it's. It could just be multiple destinations in one room. It doesn't say each story is a different realm.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So.

Cristina: Yeah, I'm thinking that's exactly what we thought, though.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah, that's crazy.

Jack: Now this 100% serves the fact that people have seen the weirdest s*** here too.

Cristina: Bigfoot, I don't know. Like what?

Jack: No, like werewolves.

Cristina: Oh, yeah.

Jack: But when you see a werewolf in the middle of nowhere, you're not really seeing a werewolf. You're seeing something that kind of looks like a werewolf. You're seeing, like, a wet shudder and dingo, you know, it's the spot where you would see that, which the theory is, then something must have happened here longer ago from this point that made this the viable spot for this.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: It must be so long ago that it predates any of our ability to track recorded records and that we have to find, like, tracking down the Aliasians and, like, finding out about Loi Shreds. A little tiny sliver of a mention somewhere Must exist. About that, about this spot. Something must have happened here.

Cristina: It was what it is. Before the stones.

Jack: Yes, before the stones. And we're talking that you guys have a area that seems to connect to multiple points from one place. The amount of entered. There must be something. There must be a lot of some things in shred. Just a tiny sliver. But a thousand times, because enough people would have known about however much death took place to make that work. I believe that's trackable. I believe that must be incredibly trackable. We just don't have this, the context of philosophy, the sort of thought tools to be like, if I see it here, then I can apply that logic over there. But you have five portals in one location that go to different destiny. It doesn't matter how many. They could all be on Earth. You have five portals in one destination. Bare minimum. If every doorway is a portal, how many people died to make it work?

Cristina: How many people died?

Jack: Do you see why it couldn't be? I don't think it could be. I don't think they could all be doorways. And also like, what?

Cristina: No, it couldn't be.

Jack: There must be some channeling nature to them.

Cristina: Yeah. I don't know how, but like.

Jack: Because they're also connected. There's something weird there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I don't understand the design for that.

Cristina: But it makes sense in the way that the house makes sense. Like she did so much crazy things that look like nonsense. But it made it work. We don't need to know what it is, but obviously it takes a lot of whatever.

Jack: Yes, it's random things we know about this place. It only works twice a year.

Cristina: What do you mean works?

Jack: It only works. These gates only work twice a year.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: During autumn, during summer solstice and during winter solstice. Yeah, so that's an interesting point. It's null and void, easy to keep track of if you have enemies on the other side. Only once a year do you post anybody to watch, you know, trade happens only once a year. Is this a hotspot? Which brings up an interesting point. It is suggested that it is also a trade center. It has resemblances to other trade centers from other cultures. So that it is a trade center of sorts. Now, if we had people from the Shadow Realm trading with people from Earth Realm. Oh, were we also trading with people from Elfame? Because if we're finding that they need gates and we are finding evidence here and there scarcely that maybe they are just another layer. They might be higher up than us, but they are still equal.

Cristina: I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me. I don't know. I always imagine that there's so much above.

Jack: Well, they wouldn't trade with us per se as much as like, volition. The Alicians do you see?

Cristina: I don't know. I don't know.

Jack: And then military action makes a lot of sense, which then takes into account that what we are interpreting as Firewalls. Yes, firewalls. But even within our own discussion, the firewalls are soldiers of sorts.

Cristina: Okay. Yeah.

Jack: And like. Well, the Alicians are a problem and they have other military. Just like in current day, for us, we have enemies and we position ourselves tactically around them.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And we're like, you move weird, we move weirder. So don't move weird. Look at where we are. Maybe that's really the move here when we. Because think about. We know the story very vividly. There starts to be a move, a push towards the Jesus project. And suddenly the people of Elfhame show up and the elves are like, okay, our job has begun. You know, as soon as Alexander begins his role. And we start seeing the motions from Jehovah and we start to see the parts in motion to kind of create Jesus, which is about 150 to 200 years. Alexander starts about 300 years back. That's the same time the way Hermes is starting to kick up his whatever, most important project.

Cristina: When do we see the fairies?

Jack: The fairies start about 300 years, which is the same point we get to Alexander. That's coinciding. That was the most important point of that episode. But it just so all happens to line up there.

Jack: Maybe it was. Oh, f***. They started to move weird. Mobilize the soldiers.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: You know, the people of Elfame started to do whatever, you know, their nuclear project has begun. Okay. Let's make sure they know where we're. That we're here. So, you know, put some elves here, put some elves there, put some elves over here and they'll know. Make sure all their people are in check so that they remember who we are.

Cristina: Yes, but not us.

Jack: Not us. The people from Elfhame. Specifically, Mab. Giving directions.

Cristina: No, I'm saying, like, they're not watching over us. The humans here, we're watching over.

Jack: They're watching the people of Elfame. Yeah, the elves are watching the people of Elfhame.

Cristina: The elves are watching the people from Elfhame.

Jack: Yeah. Trying to keep them in check. Or that was a point.

Cristina: Alfame is where they go.

Jack: I mean, my bad. The Alicians.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: My Bad. The elves are watching the Alicians.

Cristina: Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: The elves were watching the Elysians. That's what I meant to say.

Cristina: Yes. Yes. Okay, that makes sense.

Jack: So their whole purpose was that they.

Cristina: Come and watch, they sing the weird.

Jack: Stuff, and then Jesus, they see that the Elysians start the ball rolling for the Jesus Christ project. That really got out of hand to begin with for everybody.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Which, like, fair. Okay, let's give Mab some credit if the image that's building is accurate. The same way that we give Jehovah credit for telling Lucifer, like, calm the f*** down. You're gonna kill them all.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That same logic is ultimately what Mabsaw. And we're gonna say that Jehovah was so cocky, he thought he was equal the same way Lucifer did.

Cristina: Oh, right. Yeah.

Jack: Jehovah's sin is the same sin that he judged Lucifer for. I know. Just as much. But, like, d***, dude. Ma' am saw it coming, bro.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: She was trying to stop it, and now here we are. Jesus is out there. You did it. Yeah, she tried.

Cristina: And the days are coming, and he's gonna come back, and. Yeah, whatever.

Jack: She knew you'd start the apocalypse, homie. Yeah, she knew. And you're like, nah, Lucifer's gonna do it. And it's like, nah. She's like, nah, you're gonna do it.

Cristina: And he did it.

Jack: Funny enough, all the evidence tells us that she somehow ended up in the creation of everything beneath her by creating Yalda, who then created everything beneath him. So, like, that's her fault. Whatever is gonna end her universe, too, is her fault.

Cristina: And.

Jack: And somebody up there was like, don't do this. This is stupid. You're gonna kill us all. And then she did anyways, and now she's trying to control it in her.

Cristina: Creature, her creations created something. Who created something.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's gonna destroy it all.

Jack: Yeah. It's nobody's fault, but everybody's fault.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right. This is ultimately what's happening.

Cristina: Turtles all the way down.

Jack: It turtles all the way down. It always turtles all the f****** way down. It's absurd. It's so absurd that we. It doesn't matter where we look, if you have the context to look. So I'm gonna give you the details that don't matter because the puzzle was too obvious. Seeing the shape from the outside.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: We're too informed. We looked at it. We're like, I know what this is.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We both saw the same f****** thing. You didn't need s*** else.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You just saw the circle in the field. You're like fairies and you're like, the gate. That's a gate. That's only a gate. And then I tell you it's 3,000 years earlier and you're like, oh, it's just a primitive version of the same thing. That one's made of stone and this one is made of poles. It's the same f****** thing. Time changed how it looked. Yeah, that's it. That means Jesus didn't invent the gate. Point number one.

Cristina: No, he was taught about the gate, I think.

Jack: By who? Because he taught a bunch of people a bunch of random s***. You're totally right.

Cristina: That's how I know about the stones in the shadow realm, man.

Jack: He has a rat in there.

Cristina: I don't. I has to be. It has. It was too, too easy. I understand he's probably like Santa Claus that he can sense things, but d***. But like day and a half easy.

Jack: A day and a half in a jumbled mess. Get the out of here now. Dude, it's too easy. He showed up on the other side and somebody's like, follow me, I'll show you. Yes, I would love to see the movie on that. That must be the most epic movie. Jesus, right? Just pops up. He just experienced the movie begins at the most horrible moment of the crucifixion. Great scene, right? Super dark, super horrible. Maybe like five minutes of it happening. Super horror. And then he dies. And then darkness. We hear crying in the background. Whatever, you know, old Israeli music or whatever is gonna kick in. And then a heartbeat. And then. And then he just like, he starts to panic. And then he opens his eyes and. Okay, now he's. He's looking around. He's looking around. Then he just sees something. A. Something's there. He doesn't know what the f*** it is. Kind of looks like a person. Kind of looks like a silhouette. He can't make out what it is. Shadowy looking, like, what. What is this ambiguous thing? And that person Sundays, we have two days. Follow me. Best intro ever.

Cristina: I don't know if the time works the same over there either.

Jack: Exactly. Oh, my God. Maybe it's less. Maybe it's more. No, it's probably more. Who knows? You're totally right. He could have been over there for a super long time.

Cristina: Yeah, we don't know.

Jack: Crazy a** adventure.

Cristina: It's just here. It was two days.

Jack: Yeah. Oh, I never thought about that. Interesting. I like that. Yeah, because it is weird over there.

Cristina: It's weird. So we don't know. And also he Got those stones. Too easy.

Jack: Too easy. Could have been forever. Had to be.

Cristina: Right now he's working with the shadow realm creatures. Like, there has to be a leader that decided this was a good idea.

Jack: Did it Safer to work with Jesus. Yeah, I don't even know. Anyways. Anyways. Going through a bunch of crap. Weirdly enough, I do find a direct mention to this in text. Weird. So in 1136 AD, a man named Geoffrey of Monmouth claimed be very ready for the following sentence. Because this is the trippiest part. This confuses the entire plot that we've devised here because what he says is too on the nose. And then it's like, oh, s***. He specifically and literally puts into writing what? Merlin did this. He did this thousands of years ago. He constructed Stonehenge. Literally, it goes. He constructs the stonehead hundreds of years prior by transporting stones collected near and in Ireland to where they rest now. Now, there's too much accurate information going on there. There's too much accurate information with the devil story.

Cristina: And because I could have been like, fairy, like, talking crap about him.

Jack: Yes. You see the painting that they immediately made, the devil now suddenly made sense because of how they like the twist stories.

Cristina: Yeah. He could have stolen those. He stole those stones from fairies.

Jack: Now, locations tells you everything you need to know. Where did the stones come from? Ireland. And where?

Cristina: I already missed it. What did you say?

Jack: The sentence specifically said shocking. Ireland and places near Ireland.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That tells us one important, important location, which is the Isle of Man.

Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. Where this fairy garden is, I guess. I don't know what to call it.

Jack: Necromancer built a portal. The power of a fairy portal. That's what we're seeing?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: He built a monstrously colossal, incredibly intricate, complicated portal that works to access fairy locations. I don't know. And I don't think it could access shadow realm locations because of the rule that seems to happen naturally that we're observing where all of the shadow realm connections. But our one and only fairy realm connection doesn't have a pyramid in f****** sight.

Cristina: I don't think he has the ability to travel the fairy world because as far as we know, necromancers can travel easily. Easily. But like, they're not in the ferry. They're using it somehow to travel here. Easily.

Jack: Yes. The point, there's a way that they're moving through that space.

Cristina: Yes. So then those would be his portals to probably go into other places here.

Jack: Unless those are his portals to literally go into there while he has other ways to move through again. If this turns out to be just another layer.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Then what we're thinking is a satellite could literally be him literally being there.

Cristina: In the fairy world.

Jack: In the fairy world, like necromancers are actually getting there.

Cristina: Oh.

Jack: Because they're another layers or not some inaccessible other location. If they are just another physical layer to us at. And they know how to do that. And the story is a necromancer called Merlin, hundreds of years prior to the writing of the moment, according to the writing, built Stonehenge with stones stolen from fairies.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: This is kind of heavily on the nose. I could have guessed half of the story had you asked me, you know, like, that's how on point this is.

Cristina: Yeah. That's kind of crazy.

Jack: If you told me where I'd go find some fairy stones, I would instantaneously say somewhere near Ireland.

Cristina: Mmm.

Jack: It would have to be the Isle of Man or some kind of place along the coast. The end.

Cristina: Ridiculous. That's great. This is a crazy story.

Jack: This s*** is so on the nose.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So I was kind of blown away by that. And. Yeah. So look, this is another one of those scenarios where there isn't any one thing literally saying that, but all the.

Cristina: Individual parts are like, definitely that.

Jack: Like, what the f*** else could it be?

Cristina: What else could it be? I think that's it.

Jack: Yeah. It's just very old and withered and not used. Or maybe it works at this point, but people go there at the point nothing happens.

Cristina: Well, they wouldn't be able to do anything. Like it would take one of him to. To use it. Like it probably does work.

Jack: How do we know people have been there during the solstice and it does nothing.

Cristina: Why would it do something for them?

Jack: Well, it's possible this is more than just a one way gate. I don't know if it is. Maybe it is that somehow there's just. But there must be a gate that must be one way from here out to somewhere. And if you put two of those next to each other.

Cristina: But you still need to have the knowledge of necromancers.

Jack: Yeah, but so you built it and then what? You don't. You need the knowledge of a necromancer to activate it too?

Cristina: Maybe.

Jack: Fair enough. That could totally be the case. But if you look at this image, you'll notice that there's a bunch of little details that are no longer present. On top of the fact that most of the structure, the outer circle, is broken at Stonehenge.

Cristina: Yeah. Okay.

Jack: Do you see? I believe that if this is in fact the transmutation circle. We're looking at a broken transmutation circle. The reason it doesn't work is because it can't channel the energy. It's broken.

Cristina: Okay. And they're never going to fix it because they can't.

Jack: They can't fix it. If they do, then they're ruining this relic. They would have to try to replicate the design elsewhere and see if they can get its function going, which includes all of these small little details made of something called bluestone.

Cristina: What is blue stone?

Jack: It's a kind of stone.

Cristina: Where is that from? Is that from Ireland or something nearby, like those other.

Jack: All the stones are from nearby? Yeah, they're all from like Ireland and like local areas. The whole structure was made like that. But then there's a bunch of different things. Look at north barrel, look at the south barrow. There's a station stone. Station stone. It looked like it was a multi purpose device. There are many theories on what this in fact was. It's not just a calendar. As much as some people are like, oh yeah, it's some sort of energy channeling device or it's some sort of starscope or it's some sort of astrological measurement device or something like there's many. That's the point. It looks like it is all of it. Now let's end this on a very important note. All the stones that are horizontal and all the stones that are little circular ones on the outside are lined up with stars. All of them.

Cristina: You think teleportation to space then?

Jack: Teleportation. Not just the different realms. I think there's five gates. And if one would go to like Mount Ka, and if one would go to somewhere in the shadow realm that El Castillo connected to, then you have three destinations left, Right? That's one in Earth realm, one in Shadow realm. So then you say one wherever the Egyptians went to that somehow people are still connecting to space. Yeah, that's somewhere else. And one wherever the Mayans went to underground and one wherever the Alicians went to.

Cristina: No way. Maybe, I guess. I mean, it's. It's a necromancer. They can do whatever.

Jack: Do whatever. All these, these are just random suggestions, right? They could be any. You could assign any random 5. If a necromancer built this, which is.

Cristina: The accusation, which makes a little sense. I don't know.

Jack: I think that makes the most sense.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And like, then you got these five doorways. What five evened out things could we assign to those? They must go to five sort of equal places. And if it's realms, then we'd only have two, because you're already in one.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Unless there's repetition doesn't matter. And if repetition doesn't matter, we can have that many doorways, we can have every single one of those doorways could actually be one. Maybe they make total sense. You know, maybe it's like three next to each other. Like, this one goes to that part, or if that one goes to this part Earth, this one goes to that part Earth. And those four over there in a row are all the Shadow Realm. Those seven are this place. And this goes. You know.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Could easily be something like that. And in the case like that, if, let's say a person from Nordic background walked really, really far, landed in this place, and was explained that. Well, this one goes to some people who live underwater. And this one goes to some people who are really good working underground. And this one goes to some people who are really good at working in the skies. Oh, and also the people from the skies work with really good energy, and the people over here work with really great genetics and the people over there. And so you start to explain this system. And slowly but surely, this Nordic person is like, those three are up, but they're different kinds of up. That's down.

Cristina: Saying that's what made their legends.

Jack: It kind of starts to paint an interesting picture. Right.

Cristina: But how many do they have? Don't they have 7?

Jack: 5? 7 or 9?

Cristina: 5, 7 or 9. Oh.

Jack: Depending on which branch of their tradition. You pull from five, seven or nine.

Cristina: But it's impossible to tell what's the original.

Jack: Yeah. And here we have five, which is one of those.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: They're just throwing, you know, spitballing the way we do. Love just so happens to fit many suits.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And I think it's 90% at least. Definitely. It's 100% a gate territory. That's not a question.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Where it goes very related is like 90% the question or the answer. Most likely.

Cristina: Most likely. I would say most likely.

Jack: That's about it. It doesn't seem that there's no. Is the first instance of gates and no associations. Like it's Auto Mountain or some s***.

Cristina: But related to Merlin, man.

Jack: That's a weird one.

Cristina: That's a weird one.

Jack: But also he seems kind of op.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: And this is way before whatever mess.

Cristina: He was in with author.

Jack: Yeah. This dude said, thousands of years ago, this guy made this s***. It's like, whoa, whoa, wait. How do you know Merlin that well, bro? How do you know thousands of years ago.

Cristina: Are there more Moreland stories? Because I thought author was the Merlin story.

Jack: You know what's weird? I have seen, like two or three that are allegedly taking place before. I'm like, okay, so he must be some older legend that got tangled up and turned into Merlin, right?

Cristina: Yeah, like Santa Claus.

Jack: Yeah. So if we follow that, I bet that guy's named Hermes somewhere.

Cristina: No. What if they all go back to.

Jack: Hermes where he's a student, you know?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or I could trace the line back and he's like, at the Aristotle school.

Cristina: We'll find out that they're all Hermes except for the one student, which is Jesus.

Jack: Yes, that be. That would. That would make so much sense.

Cristina: I would.

Jack: That's the most possible story. It's either a bunch of necromancers that we're slowly gonna uncover. Or two.

Cristina: Or two.

Jack: Or two. The guy who made it and guy who perfected it.

Cristina: Yeah. Oh, I don't know.

Jack: Anyways.

Cristina: So crazy.

Jack: This has been Stonehenge, people. This is what I found. All the shapes and weird. Interesting. I didn't focus on those stories as much. Again, there were stories. There were many ghost stories. The basic stories. If you guys want a quick brush up. There's a lot of stories about, you know, phantasms, cold spots. There are again, many werewolves. There are vampire stories that take place there. People visiting it and, like, passing out and having blank marks and blah, blah, blah. From, like, many years ago. Yeah, thousands of years. Not thousands, hundreds of years ago. Medieval times, specifically.

Cristina: Many years ago is fine.

Jack: Yeah, long ago. There is recurring voices. There are moving shadows. But all of this just fits the suit of a place with high disturbances.

Cristina: Yes. Any time disturbances, though? You never mentioned that.

Jack: No. So interesting enough, there doesn't seem to be any other than echoes of people. There doesn't seem people slipping in and out of time. People being there for a couple of minutes and it seeming longer or being there really long and assuming a couple of minutes. Or seeing things that should be out of time moving around them. Other than what we would classify as a ghost echo.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Which are a plethora, every variation of every version of ghosts. And then what we would call phantasms and what we would call spirits, which are most likely just gin and creatures from the chaperone. All of those. Yes.

Cristina: All right.

Jack: Time distortions. No. But based on paranormal activity in general, we have our suspected space time anomaly or disturbance, which then literally brought us to the right conclusion of something weird is going on here.

Cristina: Interesting. And then this place might relate to Merlin.

Jack: To Merlin. Of all people. It's interesting how we keep coming back to the same kind of.

Cristina: It's either him or Hermes. And if they're the same, that'd be funny.

Jack: That'd be funny. More names for the same guy. He just keeps doing it. Which would explain why Jesus did the same thing. And then it brings up an interesting point. That was loi training to be the same because there seems to be many people who took that name. Or is it just last name?

Cristina: I don't know. No, I think it's. No, I don't know. I don't know anymore. It might all be one person. I don't know. That's complicated.

Jack: Only one person has ever existed.

Cristina: It's three people. No, it's one person. I don't know.

Jack: I don't know. Anyways, if you guys have any information, hit us up on our socials and tell us what you discover on your searches to better information and understanding. And you can do that on all our socials at just convopod, on TikTok, on X, on Facebook, not on YouTube, but Instagram.

Cristina: And. Yeah. Whoa. That's crazy. I mean, they were, like, doing it slowly.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: They just got tired of it.

Jack: Yeah. They slowly were like, let's not take one at a time.

Cristina: Take the whole thing. That's so wild. I took that so long. But. Okay, well, remember to subscribe, rate, and review the show.

Jack: Yes. And Word of God mouth, it's very important to tell people that we're getting to the bottom and grounding the world's most absurd and baffling ideals.

Cristina: Very baffling.

Jack: Very.

Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: By. Okay, Random thing we just saw and noticed and thought about right as we ended.

Cristina: How we didn't notice. We were talking about it. We were so close to it. The. What is it? The Merlin gates and Jesus's Shinto gates. We're wondering who taught Jesus all of.

Jack: Everything, especially how he gets these gates.

Cristina: How he got these gates, how did Jesus do it?

Jack: And then we see that the Shinto gates are an identical design to Merlin's gates used at Stonehenge. Just a more primitive version at stonehenge, but about 3,000 years older.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Shock. I wonder who taught Jesus.

Cristina: Huh? Huh?

Jack: Just tossing that at the end. Anyways, thanks for listening.

Cristina: Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo, and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 117: Groundhog Day Shadow People

Just Conversation, Grounhog Day, Comedy, Holiday, Tradition, Shadow People

Exactly what happens on Groundhog day? Where did the tradition originate? And what are the deeper implications? A deep dive into Groundhog day and more.

Story:
Diving even deeper into the case of the shapeshifters, the duo realize that even national traditions have always been part of this great conspiracy of monster and politics. Unpacking the true implications of Groundhog Day takes the duo into previously uncharted territories and brings a new creature into play! What is it and how will they deal with the new found foe? All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 117: Groundhog Day Shadow People

+Episode Details

Topics Discussed

  • Winter Solstice
  • Spring Equinox
  • Phil the Groundhog
  • Adrenochrome
  • Shadow People
  • Feral Shadow Figures
  • Media Manipulation
  • Ghosts
  • Fear
  • Jinn
  • Thought Forms
  • The Hat Man
  • E.T.
  • Aliens
  • Catholic Church

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+Transcript

Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Cristina: Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.

Jack: And I'm Jack.

Cristina: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button button to get notified the second new episodes are released.

Jack: Yes. And also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner, so be sure to go find somebody kind and loving who doesn't like podcasts and introduce them to this show, because they will love podcast. Because that's how it works.

Cristina: That's how it works. They're just magically gonna love this podcast.

Jack: They're gonna love all podcasts after they listen to our podcast. If you've been trying to get somebody to listen to podcasts this entire time, you play them doing it this podcast, they'll be educated. They're gonna argue with each other. You get into good, like, healthy dialogue, and then you end up the End Up Loving podcast because they're like, wow, that was a real deep conversation. I don't normally have lengthy conversations with anybody. I know. All conversations I have are small talk.

Cristina: Or arguments.

Jack: Or arguments. Not really. Here's the. Here's the thing. People think they're arguing, but they're not.

Cristina: They're not. What are they doing?

Jack: Well, in order to have an argument.

Cristina: I guess they're not.

Jack: Need information to argue with.

Cristina: They get angry and then they walk away.

Jack: Yes. People get angry repeating their same unthought out, unfactually supported information over and over and over until they fail at convincing the other person, which should never be the goal.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And then they leave.

Cristina: And then they leave. Yeah.

Jack: So you repeat your information, get angry. They don't believe your information because they already have their own information, and then you leave.

Cristina: That's.

Jack: That's what happens. It's not an argument. That's not a debate. That's just a person talking to themselves, getting angry and walking away.

Cristina: That's conversations today.

Jack: Yep. America.

Cristina: Yes. So anyways, remember that episode where we talked about weather, folklore, and weird stuff like that?

Jack: Yeah. Back in the year 2020.

Cristina: It was a long, long time ago.

Jack: Yeah. Back in those days when. When chaos reigned in the streets, cities were on fire and all that good stuff. Yes, I remember vaguely. It was so long ago.

Cristina: Yes. Well, in that episode, we talked a little bit about groundhogs.

Jack: Yeah, I remember that. People are out of their f****** minds.

Cristina: Yes. And I want to talk more about Groundhogs? Because they're magical beings that need to be talked about. Not magical like the wombat who poops out square. Poops. But they're still pretty magical.

Jack: Magical, yes.

Cristina: Groundhog's Day is always on February 2nd.

Jack: Now, okay, okay, before we move any further, why?

Cristina: Why is it always on February 2nd?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because in the north, that day is the midpoint of the winter solstice and the spring equinox.

Jack: The f*** are those?

Cristina: The winter solstice is when it's the most dark the world is the darkest.

Jack: Like that's the day.

Cristina: Yes. That's the day that has the longest hours of night versus daylight versus the whole year. Yes.

Jack: Okay.

Cristina: And then the spring equinox is when it's equal. Day and night is equal.

Jack: Okay, so this creates a problem because how are those both on the same day unless it's a different part of the world in which it's equal?

Cristina: What? Okay, what do you mean?

Jack: It can't both be the darkest day and the day with the most equal amount of light?

Cristina: No, that's. The spring equinox is the equal.

Jack: Oh, s***. And that's not on February 2nd?

Cristina: No, that's March. February 2nd is the middle point between when we have the darkest day and the equal of day and night. Because It's.

Jack: Oh. So February 2nd isn't the darkest day?

Cristina: No.

Jack: When is the darkest day?

Cristina: In December, in wherever the winter equinox is, it's like December 21st.

Jack: Oh, the first day of winter.

Cristina: Yeah, around that time.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Holy f***. The first day of winter is the darkest day of the year?

Cristina: Yes. For sure? I think so. I'm pretty sure.

Jack: And then that means the first day of spring is the most equal day of the year.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So the first day of summer would then, by extension, be the brightest day of the year.

Cristina: Yes. Well, then around the day, it's not perfectly on the day, but, you know.

Jack: They just kind of summarize. Not summarize it, but, like, round it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Which means that February has an equinox. Not February, Autumn.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: There are two equinoxes.

Cristina: Yes. There's two equinoxes, and then there's one.

Jack: Brightest day and one darkest day.

Cristina: Yeah. The winter solstice and the summer solstice, I guess.

Jack: F***. Maybe it's called the same thing, but it might have its own name.

Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack: Interesting. Fascinating. Two equinoxes, a solstice, maybe a second solstice and. Or something else.

Cristina: And this day, though, is in between the solstice and the equinox. Which is just pretty much the middle of winter, I guess, would be.

Jack: No, this would be the end of winter, wouldn't it?

Cristina: Well, I guess it depends on the groundhog, if you think about it, because the groundhog is telling us whether winter is ending early or it's going to last.

Jack: That's weird because that doesn't. See, here's the. Here's the problem with that logic.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: We have this creature that's deciding whether the weather itself is going to be extended or the season is going to be extended. Because I think it's choosing whether it's going to stay cold and not weather. Winter, because winter is just a period.

Cristina: No, it's a measurement. It's the weather, I guess. Yeah, it's the weather.

Jack: Yeah. Because we're using a measurement system essentially, with the seasons. Like, the season doesn't stretch out.

Cristina: No, no.

Jack: Like it could be colder beyond the season.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So interesting. It might actually. I don't know, depends. It might be towards the middle, though, because the idea here would be. Right. That the middle of winter would be about. So winter starts December 21st.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or 23rd, something like that. A whole month later is January 23rd.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: The middle of winter should be half a month beyond that point, which would be the beginning of February.

Cristina: Okay, so then that's the middle of winter. Yeah.

Jack: Because every season is three months.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So it's exactly the middle of winter, which means it's half a winter away from spring.

Cristina: Mm. And people want to know, is the spring weather coming or not? Or I guess, is the winter weather going to continue until spring?

Jack: Yeah, like it's going to touch in through spring. That happens often. Spring is a weak a** season.

Cristina: It is.

Jack: Spring doesn't last.

Cristina: So sad. It's such a great season, but it's weak.

Jack: Yeah. Summer and winter are the. The powerhouses when it comes to seasons, at least in our region.

Cristina: So the big question on February 2 is, will Phil see his shadow?

Jack: We call a random. That's the name of the f****** thing, isn't it?

Cristina: Yes, it's always Phil.

Jack: Is Phil immortal? Are we, like, thinking it's the same f****** groundhog?

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: Really?

Cristina: There's a whole backstory. Okay. His name is Pangsatani. Phil Panxutani. That's the place he comes from. That's the name of the city in Pennsylvania where Phil lives. So he's named after that city, but we'll call him Phil because that's easier to say. And, you know, if Phil sees his shadow, there's more weeks of winter the lore, though, is that there is only one Phil, and all the other groundhogs are imposters.

Jack: Okay. Is Phil immortal?

Cristina: Yes. There has been one groundhog that's been making these predictions since 1886, and he is kept alive by drinking the elixir of life that is given to him at the groundhog picnic every fall.

Jack: Oh, my. Everything comes back to it.

Cristina: What goes back to what?

Jack: To adrenochrome.

Cristina: To adrenochrome. You think they're giving him the adrenochrome?

Jack: They're giving him adrenochrome. And that's how the f*** this groundhog is staying alive.

Cristina: Ah, that's so crazy. Although him being the only groundhog is also crazy.

Jack: Immortality. We already know that the Holy Grail was an ancient method of creating adrenochrome. It was a chalice filled with blood, which, by the way, we definitely have to talk about at some point.

Cristina: And we'll call that the elixir of life.

Jack: The elixir of life is adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, okay. What?

Jack: You'd need a virgin's blood.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Inside a chalice. The chalice really didn't matter. It was what was in the chalice that mattered.

Cristina: Which is the child's blood. Feeding that to a badger.

Jack: It's a badger.

Cristina: I mean, to groundhog. We're giving that to a groundhog?

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: What? Why are we wasting it on a groundhog? That's weird. Unless we really believe his powers.

Jack: That's where it goes. Here's the thing. We've already established Adrenochrome gives at least some weird other dimensional creature powers to some degree and allows them to keep their shape on this side of the realm. So it reacts differently depending on who we give it to. It's kind of like, like the X gene or some, you know, like it presents itself different. It's coronavirus. It's different in everybody.

Cristina: It's different. Everyone.

Jack: And so you give it to the groundhog, to the groundhog, and it has weather prediction powers. You give it to humans, they become immortal. And some of them react particularly weird and get really fast, really strong, really quick.

Cristina: This groundhog gets a really weak power, though. I mean, besides living forever, that's pretty good.

Jack: That's pretty good. I don't think that groundhog is arguing. It's like, they'll bring this to me. I don't have to do s*** else but tell them about the weather.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: My question is, is the groundhog self aware? Like it has to be at this point, right? Like it comes out knowing.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: I just gotta tell them about the.

Cristina: Weather because there's more to the story.

Jack: Oh, please, do tell.

Cristina: Okay, so according to the Groundhog Club, Phil, after he makes his prediction, speaks to the president of the club in the language of groundhoggies, which only the club president can understand, and then he can translate what Phil said to him. So.

Jack: Okay, okay, so to be perfectly clear, yes. That groundhog is part of the elites, and that's how he has access to the Adrenochrome. There is a weird, like, blood pact happening here in which he is definitely part of a club.

Cristina: Yes, he's a part of a club. He has the secret language.

Jack: Yeah. Whatever club this is has access to adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So that groundhog and the Queen have connections that they both know of.

Cristina: Mm. He might be named after Prince Philip.

Jack: Holy s***.

Cristina: His name is Phil?

Jack: No, man. And so this groundhog is a fully. Like other groundhogs are just groundhogs. This is a groundhog that thinks to the capacity of a human. He just doesn't speak English.

Cristina: Yeah, he speaks this other language, so.

Jack: It looks like he has a s***** power, but immortality and the IQ of an average human are kind of nice perks for a groundhog. Basically, he can outsmart every groundhog. Always. Forever.

Cristina: Yes. That's why he's spreading this lie that all the other groundhogs are imposters. I don't know why he lie.

Jack: That's the truth. They don't have the Adrenochrome.

Cristina: Oh, they're not him.

Jack: They're not him. Yeah, it's not that they're. It's not like the birdhogs. Yeah, it's not like the birds.

Cristina: Like the birds. Oh, being imposters.

Jack: Yeah, it's not like that.

Cristina: So Groundhog Day comes from Celtic and Germanic traditions that say if a hibernating animal casts a shadow on that date, winter will last longer. Just like the groundhog. In Germany they watch the badger, and in France and England they use a.

Jack: Bear, which is epic in so many.

Cristina: Different ways and sounds really dangerous.

Jack: It does. It definitely does. But assuming that the same circumstance that takes place with the groundhog, where it gets its dose of adrenochrome, its intellect rises to that of a human and it only needs a single dose a year. It is no longer just a violent, savage animal. Now it's the apex elite, intellectually superior one of its kind. Not only that, but this is us assuming that there are a fuckton of different animals who are part of this Club of elites. There is one of however many different animals inside of a club where the elites are. Meaning it's completely possible that they have connections that are similar to one another. So, like, there could be a intellectual bear that is sharing connections with somebody like the queen, who also requires adrenochrome for her immortality.

Cristina: Yes, she definitely. She's. How is she? What?

Jack: Yes, that's particularly interesting. Now, the question is. So this groundhog takes adrenochrome, its intellect rises, it's immortal, it gets this power to predict the weather.

Cristina: Maybe it has powers to predict other things, but only on this specific day, though, because why in this weird. In between spring and winter, it needs to predict. Because maybe it needs to predict a lot more than just the weather.

Jack: And what the people get told is only about the weather. Yes, which is interesting. Proof of this possibly being the case is similar to when people take psilocybin mushrooms. You can have two completely different people who've never met the same guy who gave them the drugs, don't know anything other than they're gonna have a great trip. You give it to them, they go trip on their own things. They've never done any research. They're both gonna come back and they're both gonna say one thing that's commonly discussed within the groups of people who do psilocybin. And it's pink elephants.

Cristina: Pink elephants.

Jack: You have pink elephants? Pink elephants. A creature who seem. That seems to not exist. Sometimes they're very tiny, tiny pink elephants. And it's like, okay, what the h*** are you talking about? But how do you both have this story? You don't know each other. You didn't come here together. I saw you one at a time. You didn't do any research. Why do you both know about pink elephants? They must be real. There must be pink elephants. And taking psilocybin mushrooms removes a filter that blocks them out. There must be a realm that we can't see without them.

Cristina: You think adrenochrome also helps you see this realm?

Jack: Adrenochrome could either help you see this realm or something equal to it, or something, maybe not necessarily a different realm. Who knows what it's doing? Because like any other chemical, it's affecting your body. And we know for a fact it's affecting their mind to the point that this groundhog can engage in dialogue with a member of the club.

Cristina: And maybe they chose the shadow for a specific reason, because it's communicating or it's getting information from the shadow, like it's a creature itself.

Jack: That is fascinating. So the possibility that maybe the groundhog doesn't get the ability to predict the.

Cristina: Future, the ability to communicate with a different creature.

Jack: Yes. Maybe it's not seeing the future of the weather. Maybe all it does is become immortal and become intelligent enough to communicate with a person at the degree of a person, but in their own language.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Really, what you need this creature to have those things for, that's the reward the creature gets for being a Kinect, a connect.

Cristina: Why wouldn't they need a human to connect?

Jack: Because whatever the case is, the groundhog has whatever it is to see whatever this shadow thing is that's giving it information.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh. That reminds me of shadow people, which is like, we can't see them. So maybe the groundhog can see them because in the stories we only see them through the edge of our eye or something. It's always that kind of thing of you sort of see the creature, but you never really see it.

Jack: Like, you can never look straight at it.

Cristina: You can never look straight at it. Maybe he can look straight at this thing.

Jack: Interesting, interesting. So the possibility that a groundhog gets rewarded with immortality and high intellect, thus allowing it to survive amongst its kind as the superior, maybe even the leader of the groundhogs, that's its reward for conveying information from these shadow creatures to the club leader. It's kind of like aliens. We basically have somebody who can communicate with aliens, except it's like a demon or something.

Cristina: What is a demon?

Jack: The shadow. What the f*** is the shadow people?

Cristina: The shadow people. Oh, that is complicated. So complicated. There are people who think that shadow people have been around forever and that every story about shadows is relating to shadow people, because many religions, legends and folklore and stuff like that mention shadow people or like shadow entities. They might not call them people, but there's no real. You can't really see them. You know, no one could really see them.

Jack: And because we can't see them, we can't really interact with them in any kind of way that we know they're as intelligent as people.

Cristina: We assume that they're all the same thing, too.

Jack: Like they're one race of things.

Cristina: Yeah. So we call them the shadow people and the shadow people that we know that people think of. Now, though, this new idea of it, the idea that shadow people have always been around comes from a radio show that talked to a Native American elder named Thunderstrikes. And she made the shadow people popular pretty much because she talked about it. And then a bunch of people brought in images and Drawings of what shadow people look like. And it became a popular thing. Maybe it's mass hysteria.

Jack: Total possibility. But the problem is we have a groundhog that's communicating with something.

Cristina: Yeah, well, there's a bunch of people who claim to have recordings and images of these shadow people on video. And I tried watching these videos and I'm not sure what they are. They could be, I don't know, they're shadow looking people. They look like your shadow. They look like your shadow, the ones in the videos. So I don't know if this is really video of shadow people or just a shadow or a ghost. That's another option. But the mentioning of shadow, like people throughout history. There's like in the Quran they mention a pitch black sapient being that isn't entirely spiritual or physical.

Jack: Interesting. So it's not spiritual, but it's not a solid physical being. Is it evil?

Cristina: People think it's evil. There's a lot of people that think it's evil. There's the only positive thing that it could be is a guardian angel. But I don't see that as one of the explanations.

Jack: Fascinating, because you have to associate dark with evil inherently.

Cristina: Yes, that's. I think that's why. Yeah.

Jack: So it's more likely we'd assume it's some sort of a demon.

Cristina: And the people in ancient Europe, you're not going to believe this, but they thought of the shadow beings as beings that wanted blood and without it couldn't be reborn.

Jack: And without it couldn't be reborn.

Cristina: Yes. What? What? Blood is always involved somehow.

Jack: Blood is always involved somehow. Adrenochroma is overpowered. The question is, what do they want blood from? Right. If they want blood from humans, why don't they just wait until you're sleeping?

Cristina: They do.

Jack: They wait until you're sleeping?

Cristina: Some of them do.

Jack: They're not trying to get adrenochrome by scaring you first? Maybe lingering in the corner or something that has energy.

Cristina: All those answers? Yes.

Jack: Then how the. So it's not adrenochrome if they just want blood?

Cristina: Well, they thought they just wanted blood. The people in ancient Europe believed that they wanted blood. But it could be more than just blood.

Jack: It could be adrenochrome.

Cristina: It could be adrenochrome.

Jack: This is interesting. So we have these people who basically have the chalice, Holy grail, the f****** elixir of life, fountain of youth, which is kill some kids after you've scared them.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And now you have adrenochrome, then go feed that Adrenochrome to animals. Take it yourself, too. You'll be immortal. It's assuring immortality to every creature of physical, biological presence. But it gives you abilities aside from immortality. So the queen might be seeing the future. This groundhog is immortal and is given the intellect of a human. Maybe anything that takes it has the intellect of a human. Which is why these older people who are on adrenochrome are incredibly sharp. It's not just they're immortal. Even if they're still aging, their mind stays sharp as f***.

Cristina: Whoa. What if they're. Okay, the ghost thing, Right? What if when these people die, their ghosts live on and they still need adrenochrome to continue living?

Jack: Holy s***. So you're telling me that the. The Shadow People are the original people who haven't, like, left this plane? They've just become this.

Cristina: Sort of Just get addicted to being here and. Or maybe they just fear dying. Yeah.

Jack: They've become an ethereal version of themselves.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Interesting. So once your physical existence ceases, that does not mean you are dead. You still need.

Cristina: You still need it.

Jack: So then what we're saying is that humans taking adrenochrome can't see or communicate with the Shadow People. But we know the Shadow People are still members of the club that gave them the adrenal chrome that made them immortal in the first place.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So the people in the Shadow Realm, then, have access to information that we don't on this side. They're kind of like ghosts that exist, maybe in different times. Maybe they have access to information that is not inherent to us.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So us with the. Because they can't even come in contact with us. Right.

Cristina: Well, when they attack us.

Jack: So they don't need the club members. So are they just helping us tell the future?

Cristina: Yeah. Well, those people, it's not like they're.

Jack: Doing it for Adrenochrome because they can just go get Adrenochrome.

Cristina: I guess if they're, like, feeding for Adrenochrome, they're gonna attack people? And some of them wait patiently for Adrenochrome to be given to them. Yeah. While others are like, no, I need this Adrenochrome now. Because they're still pretty human. I'm guessing. If they come from human, there's still a lot human about them.

Jack: Yeah. Because they're still sentient, thinking beings.

Cristina: Yes. What?

Jack: But they communicate through this groundhog and. Or other animals.

Cristina: And a lot of these stories, for some reason, they see red eyes. I don't know. Why? But not all of them have red eyes. But some of them do. So maybe the ones that are attacking when you're sleeping are the ones with red eyes.

Jack: Interesting. So they don't always see red eyes.

Cristina: Those are probably the ones that need it the most.

Jack: Well, this reminds me a lot of, like, Fallout 4, right. Where you have ghouls, but you also have feral ghouls.

Cristina: Feral ghouls. These are feral shadow people.

Jack: Yes. So you have the people who can remain sane in this condition.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And they're just like, it is what it is. But then you have the people who this is too much for.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they go crazy, and they become these. So there could be millions of these things out there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But the only ones we're aware of are the ones doing crazy, creepy s***, because those are the ones interfering with normal life.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's kind of like the difference between a good cop and a bad cop. There's way more good cops. There's way more good cops.

Cristina: We're talking about the best single percent.

Jack: Of a single percent of a single percent is the bad cop. But that's the only one we aim a camera at.

Cristina: Yes. And people are beginning to see them more. These things. They're seeing them. They're actually seeing them for longer periods of time. Something's changed once it became popular. Something. Something of the behavior of these shadow.

Jack: People have changed once it became popular. Well, assuming the elites. Right. The way they usually work is through media. They normalize something, and then it's more acceptable because it's popular.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Usually they have to force it into media. You want gay to be normal? Okay. We need to put it on tv, we need to put it in movies, we need to put in video games. Now, gay is normal. You want transgender normal? You put in movies, you put in video games. Okay. You want autism normal, Put in video games, whatever. Shadow people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You want it normalized? Somebody has to mention it. This Native American mentioned it. Now it became popular. It's more so now people are more open to it. Eventually, we're gonna have horror movies showing the bad side, but then eventually there's gonna be, like, that zombie Warm Bodies, where there's. Somebody's gonna fall in love with a shadow person.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: To normalize.

Cristina: Shadow what?

Jack: Shadow people are.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: I'm sure there were good shadow people in, like, Harry Potter or something.

Cristina: Oh, probably. But at the moment, it seems like the shadow people are very negative. There might be some that are good, because how do people think. They might be guardian angels.

Jack: Exactly.

Cristina: So there might Be some good ones, but most of them are negative. And most of the encounters accompany some feeling of dread with it, which is kind of adrenochrome. Y. Because they're. They're after that feeling.

Jack: Yes. They're trying to.

Cristina: They're making this feeling. They don't. They want you to feel that way. That's the purpose.

Jack: Yeah. Fear and misery is necessary, but some people have been.

Cristina: Have claimed to have actually been physically attacked with scratches and burns and being choked while they are sleeping during. What is that called? During sleep paralysis.

Jack: Now, the question is, is sleep paralysis even sleep paralysis, or is it you being restrained by shadow people?

Cristina: It could be you being restrained by shadow people because you always see that thing in the corner or whatever during that attack. So it could be the same thing. It could be waiting for something like that to happen too. So it's. We don't know which of the two came first.

Jack: I guess maybe they're not actively holding you down, but the reason you always see that thing isn't because they're waiting there. Rather, being this sort of ethereal being gives them this ability to hold you down, hold you down with their ethereal mind.

Cristina: They got abilities like the groundhog having abilities.

Jack: Because adrenochrome gives you abilities, except as a human, it gives you certain abilities. As a groundhog, it gives you certain abilities. But as an ethereal shadow person, the abilities it gives you are completely. You're no longer human. You have a whole other set of responses other than immortality.

Cristina: Mm. What? And because now that we're seeing them more, though, there are so many different types of how they could look like, like, ranging from a small child or a figure, a tall figure wearing a hat. I saw a video of the child. To me, it looks like a ghost. I don't think it's. It should be counted as shadow people, but it's. There's a line, I think, between ghost and shadow people.

Jack: My question is what we.

Cristina: Oh, well, I guess in this story, what we're talking about, they are ghosts. They're just ghosts with adrenochrome.

Jack: Well, here, let me point this out. The possibility that what people have been calling ghosts this whole time versus what we believe ghosts are, we've landed on what other people were talking about. Because when we talk about ghosts, we've landed on a ghost is more likely just some sort of echo. We're either seeing a different point in time, sort of phasing through our time briefly.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or we're seeing a loop, some behavior that is echoing, repeating over and over. Which is why we see the same people walk through walls. And it's because there was a door there at some point or something.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we're either seeing events from a different time happen in our current time and we can't interact with it. We're just seeing a faded out, phased version of it. Or we're seeing an echo repeat itself. It's not a conscious being doing anything. Or it is, but it's conscious in its own time. We wouldn't be able to change what's happening there.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While the dead, lingering, quote, spirit unquote.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Thing that is making active choices. Although people call that a ghost. Oh, it's following me. It's trying to. All these horrible things of. It's haunting me. It shows up in the middle of the night. It scares me. It does this. It tells me it's gonna kill me or leave this place or any of this bullshit.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: That's. That ghost is a shadow person.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And what we've been calling a ghost, just an echo or a phased sight of a different time. So ghosts should no longer be ghosts. Unless you're gonna make a distinction between a ghost and a phantom and say a phantom is a shadow person and a ghost is an echo.

Cristina: Well, people, if they don't call it a ghost, they think of it as a spirit. Like it's in a. I guess the spirit is a broader category that ghost is involved. But it's not a ghost. But it's still in that type of realm. So if that word is good enough. I don't know. Spirit, ghost.

Jack: I don't know. Ghost is really a spirit is really broad. It really is. I feel like spirits more of just an energy, while a phantom seems to have some consciousness to it.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Unless we're gonna say the phantom is.

Cristina: The echo, the phantom is the echo and the ghost is the shadow. No, I like ghost. No. I don't know.

Jack: Whatever. Point is, one of them is an echo or a phase time loop. And the other one.

Cristina: These are two different things that live in the spirit world.

Jack: Exactly. Okay, well, one of them lives in the spirit. No, they don't live in the spirit world. The shadow people live in here.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's no spirit world.

Cristina: There's this argument. Okay.

Jack: It's both here. Except one of them is a different time or an echo.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And both of those cases are kind of like faded out and hard to see because it's not really here.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While the other is the possibility that it's just a shadow person and that Seems likely. Because why would a ghost need you to be scared? And they're not just gonna have fun with it now it's like. Well, it's exciting to scare people. No, this should be a goal.

Cristina: Casper. It's just fun to scare people.

Jack: Well, no, you kind of just. There should always be a goal. Otherwise, you're gonna maximize your experience.

Cristina: Y.

Jack: So there's a goal. You need to do this for some reason. Why do so many ghosts want to scare people? Because fear.

Cristina: They're getting adrenaline. Yes.

Jack: And then you drain the person or. Fair enough. Think about it like this, right? We see the Holy Spirit and God. God needs adrenochrome. Thus mass genocides and murders and the Twin Towers falling and shooting fire out of the sky to kill many people.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Or creating panics in the world that last long times. And scare people. And he feeds off of the fear. When the fear doesn't work, he needs to kill for the blood.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: But the fear gives him what he needs.

Cristina: The fear is a much easier way.

Jack: Yes. So maybe as these shadow people, these phantoms, they are.

Cristina: They're doing the same thing.

Jack: The same thing. They're scaring people again.

Cristina: If they can't scare them, they're attacking people. They're being physical with you.

Jack: Yes. They will get more aggressive if they're.

Cristina: Not getting what they need.

Jack: What they need. If you're scared, they'll never hurt you.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Because you're consistently scared. You're always checking under your bed. You're always panicking in the middle of the night. They're getting what they need from you.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But the harder you are, the harder they are. And this comes back to the same story we were talking about with Jehovah. Maybe his ultimate goal is to get somebody to transcend and be the next God. Because maybe he was just a person in a system that was trying to breed one next God so that his God could go do whatever it's doing or die. So he takes place.

Cristina: So do you think these shadow people are competing for that job?

Jack: They don't know they're competing for that job. They're just trying to stay alive. But they've already crossed to the next threshold.

Cristina: Yeah. They're closer to him than we are. Than we are. Yeah.

Jack: Yes. Because they're already learning how to use not. They don't have to go kill somebody. They can just scare somebody to get it. Killing somebody's last resort now. Because they could just cause fear and get what they need when they can't. We got to go and off Some. Somebody.

Cristina: I think we figured it out.

Jack: Very interesting.

Cristina: Here are some other things that the shadow person could be. We talked about this creature, and in the sleep paralysis episode, it's called a jinn. And the jinns are creatures that are invisible, but when they do appear, they have a misty appearance that's almost human like. And we talked about how people who have sleep paralysis think it's this creature, the jinn, in a certain location where sleep paralysis is very common.

Jack: So a jinn and a shadow person are the same thing?

Cristina: Yes. It also could be thought forms. Have you ever heard of that? Thought form? Yes, Thought.

Jack: Thinking.

Cristina: Thought. Yes, Thinking, thought form.

Jack: Like you're projecting what you're seeing.

Cristina: Yes. Whether intentional or not, all these negative thoughts and energies, you're manifesting it. Yes. And all of us like a bunch of people together now. After someone made it on the radio talking about it, it became more real than it was before.

Jack: Interesting. Similar to a jinn that does show itself in Shinto. Occasionally a thought form is also, I don't know, had a name. But there are these sort of phantasm spiritual beings. Shinto is packed with spirits. And one of them is these things that negative energies do manifest. Beings that are corrupt and like, twisted and malicious. Because your good doesn't form a being, your good stays in you. Your body tries to expel the evil.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And that has to go somewhere. And it collects and it forms these beings.

Cristina: Yes. That's a pretty good explanation. Then what? It could. They could also be interdimensional beings, which we talked about.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: But a while ago, I read a psychic medium talk about shadow people and that they're intelligent beings from a different dimension that can take different forms. That's probably why we see these beings as shadows, because we're not really looking at them, because we can't really see them because they're from a different dimension. So we're looking at a glimpse of them, maybe. Is that how interdimension works?

Jack: Well, here's the weirdest part about. Because it's problematic when somebody claims interdimensional. They don't understand dimensions because we exist on every dimension all at once.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: This becomes a bit of an issue when we're talking. We're basically talking about alternate universe. Oh, beings from a different universe, beings from a different type of reality.

Cristina: So now something from the fifth dimension that we're having a glimpse of.

Jack: Well, it wouldn't work that way because they would also exist in the third dimension.

Cristina: Oh, okay. So there's this shadow person. There's a specific type of shadow person that is called the hats man. He wears a top hat and a suit, and he's seen as being demonic or evil. I'm not sure. What's the difference between demonic or evil? They're the same, right?

Jack: No. You could be a demon. That's not evil.

Cristina: You're demonic, though.

Jack: Okay.

Cristina: Demonic means being demon.

Jack: Yeah, Demonic is the act of being a demon.

Cristina: Okay. So he's either. He's one or the other, I guess.

Jack: The state of being a demon.

Cristina: Yes. And there's this author who investigates all these things, these shadow people. Her name is Heidi Hollis, and she says these beings and others like it are trying to build an army for the dark side.

Jack: What the f*** does that mean for h***?

Cristina: Aliens.

Jack: For aliens.

Cristina: Aliens. We get to aliens. So some people claim that the shadow people might be aliens that abducted people. Some people say that they're the victims of the great aliens. And then that these aliens can pass through walls and close windows and have advanced technology to make them appear and disappear. And it sounds a lot like shadow people, I guess. Yeah. So there's a paranormal expert named Rosemary Ellen Gully who says she discovered that many people who have shadow people experience also had ET Experiences as adductees. So aliens and shadow people might be connected somehow.

Jack: That's fascinating. Aliens and shadow. So the possibility that shadow people are just a product of not really being shadow people, but aliens using advanced technology that thus makes them appear as shadow people because they're, like, phasing out of existence or not really, but they would appear as such stealth technology and whatnot?

Cristina: Yes. Is that amazing?

Jack: So that you're. You're having, quote, sleep paralysis, unquote. You're laying there, you see this shadow being, but that's you sort of kind of seeing a phased alien.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they're just studying you. Maybe that's why you're experiencing paralysis in the first place or something.

Cristina: Yeah. Maybe the gray being is being seen as a black shadow. Yeah. So this other lady that I mentioned before, Hade Hollis, she published the book called the Secret War, where she goes into the information she's collected about shadow people, and she says the shadow people are related to grays and reptilian people.

Jack: Grays and reptilian people?

Cristina: Yes. Yes. The shadow people are. Those are related somehow to them. And she says that the shadow people don't want to be spotted. Of course. And in her book, she provides a bunch of ways to decrease the encounters if you don't want to be attacked.

Jack: By these beings, don't Be a young child.

Cristina: Don't be. No one of them is. Master your fear and don't let it control you.

Jack: Right, monk? S***.

Cristina: Yes. Focus on positive thoughts.

Jack: So meditate.

Cristina: Hold your ground.

Jack: What the f***?

Cristina: Hold your ground. I don't know. You're being pushed down anyways, so I don't. Hold your ground, though. Use the name of Jesus to repel them. That always works.

Jack: And we've made that journey. We've made the circle.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The possibility that there is no such thing as shadow people is presented the possibility that some a****** inside of a church was sitting around and he's like, what other weird s*** can I tell people about so that they come to church?

Cristina: Shadow people.

Jack: Shadow people.

Cristina: Just like vampires.

Jack: Just like were witches, witches, F****** everything.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Wet, wet, chud, chudge, f****** demons. Demons, everything, all of it. Church made it all up.

Cristina: You think they made up aliens, man?

Jack: Probably.

Cristina: I mean, these are just gonna find out that we gotta rep. Yes.

Jack: Come on. Yeah, come on. There's no longer aliens. I don't believe in aliens anymore. I don't believe in aliens anymore. Now. Now the church made them up.

Cristina: The church made aliens?

Jack: The church made everything up?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's nothing but us on this world. The Earth is probably flat. They said aliens. The Earth is flat. I don't care. Now I'm a flat earther.

Cristina: Because they're the ones that say earth is flat.

Jack: No, because they said aliens. They said you can fight them off by saying Jesus.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So.

Cristina: No, but they also think the Earth is flat and the Reptilians live in the center of it. So.

Jack: No, they can't live at the center of something flat.

Cristina: They do. They.

Jack: That's not the Christians.

Cristina: That's not the. They're. They're Christian.

Jack: No, the flat Earthers aren't Christian.

Cristina: Some of them are.

Jack: I mean, there's some cross pollination here and there, but like.

Cristina: Yes, but they have more religious beliefs of like. Like God wants us to know. They don't want us to know about flat earth because Satan.

Jack: Oh, you're right. And because paradise is over the ice wall or some s*** like that.

Cristina: Yes. And the Reptilians, I guess, live there and not the center, Right?

Jack: Yeah, not the center, actually.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Allegedly we, man. Because even in this weird version of where there's more out there, we're the center of it for whatever reason. Like we can't just be in the second ring and there's something in the middle that you can't access. No, no, no. We're still super special.

Cristina: Always in the center.

Jack: Yeah, we're super special always.

Cristina: Yes. So there you go. Feels good.

Jack: It always comes back to religion. The church is just a bunch of liars trying to scare people to go to church.

Cristina: That's all it is. That's.

Jack: That's all it is. Because they get money. They get money from you being there. You give them money directly and they get tax cuts and, and donations. Giant, huge donations. But because you get. No, you don't get to have to pay tax. You get to keep every penny from the donation.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: It's the most profitable business in all of existence.

Cristina: It is. Well, if the shadow people do exist, they thrive on the fear of the.

Jack: Unknown, which is the whole adrenochrome problem.

Cristina: Yeah. So.

Jack: So look, in reality it's really coming down to the fact that they're probably dead elites.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Or not dead, but transcended elites to this different state. Evolved elites.

Cristina: Yeah. They show up, they hang around feeding off the fear and dread that they cause by their appearance. Yes. Like it's already scary.

Jack: They can also maybe take different shapes. Maybe the medium is right. In which they are very self aware. They're like intelligent beings and they can take many shapes, but they're being from a different dimension. Maybe what she means is they're in a different state.

Cristina: And they're the ancient Europeans that thought that they drink blood. This sounds a lot like vampires. And that vampires may not have a true shape and no blood drinker might have a true shape. And these beings don't have a true shape. They can turn into beings.

Jack: We don't see humans doing this. We see shapeshifters look like humans.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And do this. So it's possible that these shadow people, let's just call them gyms from this point forward. That these jinns can manifest in a fully human looking form with flesh and everything at will.

Cristina: Yes, that's just there.

Jack: That's a vampire.

Cristina: Yes. And we call them a vampire. But it's the same thing as the werewolf. As the.

Jack: Interesting enough. There's this scenario. One of the many stories of vampires which I think we discussed on one of the episodes about vampires was that they can become sort of a cloud.

Cristina: Yeah, that's one of the stories.

Jack: And what is closer to a cloud than an anomalous shadow? What is black smoke?

Cristina: Its truest form is the cloud.

Jack: Yes, it's black smoke of some sort. It's shapeless.

Cristina: It's shapeless. What? Wow.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: Interesting.

Jack: Connecting those dots.

Cristina: So that's.

Jack: Yeah. It's possible that elites Take it. And that doesn't make them a vampire. Not yet. Unless there's two different kinds of vampires. Because we also know that vampires and zombies are very similar. They. You need to have blood running through your veins as a vampire. So maybe we're thinking about two different things now. We've got into a weird different scenario where there is a different kind of. Where there's a shape shifter.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And one of the things a shapeshifter can pretend to be is a vampire.

Cristina: And these shapeshifters though, are dead people. Dead elites. What if there are some dead elites that can't leave their body and they become a vampire? Zombies.

Jack: Zombies.

Cristina: They can't do anything. They're just.

Jack: Because they'd be.

Cristina: And they can't drink blood or they're not.

Jack: They can't control the body.

Cristina: They can't control the body. So they become feral and they. That's what we think of as the zombies.

Jack: So. Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: Because they can become feral in their ghost like form. So they could become feral in their zombie form. Not being able to trick us into drinking. Letting them drink our blood. There's no other way.

Jack: Holy crap. You know what I just realized? Holy s***. One, all of it has to do with adrenochrome. Step number one.

Cristina: Okay. Yes.

Jack: Step number two, There are different states. And I can prove it using past information that we didn't f****** consider for whatever reason.

Cristina: What?

Jack: Okay. A wet judge. A Wendigo demon like creatures. Spirit like creatures that look like. What? Like wolves. What do people use to communicate with shadow people? Or what do people use to tell the weather animals?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: What happens when you drink adrenochrome? You become this immortal being. Eventually you die, but you stay alive. Your body, physical form dies and you become this sort of phantasm, this sort of ghost like thing. Some people use bears, some people use badgers. Some people use groundhogs. What stops some people from using a wolf? And the wolf gets the intellect of a person. It gets immortality. At least in conscious form.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And then when its physical body dies, it could be a werewolf.

Cristina: Oh crap.

Jack: Or it could be a wetchat.

Cristina: The same rules leading to different creatures dying too.

Jack: Eventually. Eventually their physical form goes, but they don't die. They move to the next thing, which.

Cristina: Is whatever the people are. They pretty much become the same thing as the elites that are dying.

Jack: Yes. This a whole thing of jinns, a ton of different djins. The Wetcha is just a djinn.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And the Wendingo is just a djinn.

Cristina: Okay, so it's not just one thing that's becoming all these different things? In a way, yes. Because they're in the same realm.

Jack: Yes. The same reason is leading to it.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Adrenochrome.

Cristina: It's adrenochrome. Yeah.

Jack: So there's an entire world of shadow beings that we have no access to unless they choose to interact with us.

Cristina: So you think aliens have anything to do with this?

Jack: If aliens are going through the same processes, there would be aliens that are the same, because we assume aliens came naturally as a response of the world. They might look completely different or whatever, but there should be. I mean, I guess you'd have to be biological in the first place in order to consume adrenochrome in the first place and then in your next state, use fear.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But assuming biological aliens evolved throughout the world, in that case, they can use adrenochrome and when they die, they do become shadow people, thus being these types of shadow people. And assuming they're advanced enough to have advanced technologies to be able to change their physical frequencies, maybe they can literally communicate with one of themselves who's transcended the physical form because of technology. Adrenochrome. Oh, you can use technology to communicate somebody who's transcended due to adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they. It's no different. It's just you're going to the next phase, but they can still communicate with you actively without the use of adrenochrome, because technology, man.

Cristina: So we've connected everything.

Jack: Yes, everything is connected. Not only that, but the shape shifting nature of it. Resolution means we managed to say shape shifters are all these things. And yes, they are one species of thing, but they're also many different things.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: The same way we were saying that these shapeshifters might be like the difference between a big dog and a small dog. The shadow people, the djinns, are the same. They were still biological creatures, but it's a difference between a human and a dog. You've traced them back far enough. They came from the same thing. And that's what's happening with shape shifters. Shapeshifters are just shadow people. Shadow people are just gins.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And they are all a result of adrenochrome.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Being taken when they were alive to retain immortality and to transcend without losing consciousness. It's preserving consciousness. That's the ultimate goal.

Cristina: And some of them just can't. They fail. Become violent.

Jack: Yes, they become violent. Feral.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: The feral version.

Cristina: Yes. Yep.

Jack: How f****** interesting.

Cristina: We got it. And So I thought shadow people is interesting enough, but what about our shadows?

Jack: What about our shadows?

Cristina: What are they?

Jack: A lack of photons.

Cristina: A lack of photons?

Jack: Yes. Let's say light hits you from one direction. Thus photons generated land on the surfaces that you're not blocking. They reflect back and you see them brighter. And the spots where the photons aren't landing remain dark.

Cristina: Well, there's many, many superstitions and beliefs about shadows before, I guess we knew before the science explanation of shadows. And one of them was that the shadow was the soul.

Jack: So you're always stepping on your soul.

Cristina: Well, you're connected to your soul, you're not stepping on it.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: It changes throughout the day because it's like your soul, it's not perfect, your soul's not perfect, your shadow is not perfect.

Jack: That's a cool a** belief to assume that your shadow is your soul and you can just look at it.

Cristina: Mm. And then another one is that the shadow is a double, which is pretty much just a copy of you, which makes sense. It is a copy of you, but it's not a perfect copy of you. It's just a. It's just a copy of yourself.

Jack: The two dimensional cut of yourself. That's what it is. It's a two dimensional slit of you there. It has no third dimension.

Cristina: Yeah. So it is you. It's just a different dimensional of you.

Jack: 100%. That's exactly what it is. It has height and width, but no depth. You have depth. Your next version has all of time included. We can just see the dimensions below us, but we can't see the ones above us. Yeah, but from a fourth dimension, it could see height, width and depth.

Cristina: So the shadow could be. Yeah, and then there's a lot of superstitions that involve death. Like if you inflict harm on a person's shadow, then the person's gonna suffer the effects. I don't know how you harm a shadow, but I guess if you stab. If I stabbed your shadow, you're gonna feel that later.

Jack: That's f****** weird.

Cristina: That's weird. Yeah. And people would try to cast their shadow on a wall on Christmas Eve or New Year's. And whoever had a headless shadow, it would mean that they're gonna die next year or within a year they're gonna die. Stepping on your own shadow was an omen of death, which is weird because you can't mount.

Jack: Step on your shadow.

Cristina: Yeah. So you're gonna die. It's predicting it.

Jack: I guess the only way to not step on Your shadow is to always float.

Cristina: Then you can live forever. That's the key of living forever.

Jack: Learn to fly. And even when you sleep, remain flying.

Cristina: Yes. And then there's St. Peter, who they believed his shadow could cure the sick. So people would try to lay their sick on the street, hoping that his shadow would fall on them.

Jack: Okay, back to that church s***.

Cristina: Yes. Shadows as a protector. The shadow is like a guardian angel of the soul instead of the soul itself. When death comes to get you, it has to ask your shadows permission. It also protects you from demons and vampires.

Jack: So if you're someone without a shadow, like the dark, they can access you.

Cristina: And vampires don't cast the shadow because they don't have a soul.

Jack: I've actually heard about that. Vampires don't cast a shadow or have a reflection.

Cristina: That's interesting stuff about shadows is that sounds a lot similar to shadow people of the Guardian Angel. And if it was a protector, if the shadow people are protectors, they sound a lot like our own shadow.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Theories people have figured out or came up with for shadows themselves. So interesting. Yeah. Anyway, if you want to hear other episodes like this, which I would. Let's see, what would I suggest? I would suggest the weather folklore, if you like, that weird groundhog stuff and other wintery stuff.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: The sleep paralysis episode. I don't know what that one was called.

Jack: There was a whole episode about sleep paralysis.

Cristina: Yeah. It was the first Halloween episode, I think. So. Check out that first Halloween episode.

Jack: Interesting. Yes. So, yeah, Actually, fair enough. A lot of the stuff is because, look, we have episodes on vampires.

Cristina: Oh, yes.

Jack: We also have on shape shifters.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: We have episodes on werewolves, ghosts, all these. A lot of these topics have been discussed before in different ways, and we kind of all led to this episode putting them together. So if you want to see all the pieces that led here.

Cristina: Yep.

Jack: Go through our catalog.

Cristina: Brought it all together.

Jack: Yes. That's actually really weird and interesting.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: That the groundhog is how we discovered that. That vampires, werewolves, witch huds, Wendigo's shapeshifters are all different but the same.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They are the creatures, the biological creatures of this plane of existence in the next state of existence that is entirely allowed to exist because of adrenochrome, which is also a consistent topic. And there are many episodes.

Cristina: Don't forget that episode about the gods of adrenochrome.

Jack: Yes. Yes. Which is very important. Which is. Also connects to all of this.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Man, this is starting to paint a pretty severe picture that's working out together in Tandem.

Cristina: It's scary.

Jack: It's weird how much of this fits together. Anyways, if you guys want to find all those episodes, you can definitely find all of that in our catalog, and that exists on the official website, greatthoughts.info or you can get it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast.

Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. Uscombopod.

Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe, rate and review.

Cristina: The show and let someone who might like this show know about it.

Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is overpowered. And if you know about any of these creatures, if you didn't know that groundhogs are immortal beings with the intellect of it. Well, specifically this one, maybe there's many different groundhogs. There's one that we do it to, but I'm assuming that there's one bear that fits the same suit and it's just one bear.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And, like, when that bear dies, it gets replaced by another bear who's just the one again.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You know.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And so it goes as long as it can. Maybe it lives thousands of years before it's replaced. Interesting, interesting, interesting.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So we were, you know, tell people if you like these things, talk about.

Cristina: It, bring people in, tell us about it if you know more info about this stuff. Like, we're just coming up with it. Yeah, we're just finding this now.

Jack: Come tell us what you know. And maybe you have pieces we don't have to this puzzle. We're building a giant puzzle using all the human knowledge we've ever acquired, all the information that people believe to be true. We're grabbing humanity's most. What is it? What's a funny. Yeah, humanity. We're grabbing humanity's most absurd ideas and we're grounding them. We're bringing them into reality. We're finding out what the truth behind all of humanity's most absurdities are and turning it into the reality that they really are and finding out how they work together. Because nothing works on its own. Everything is part of a bigger system, and we're building that system. So if you have any piece that.

Cristina: Belongs here, give it to us.

Jack: Give it to us. Feel free to let us know.

Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye.

Cristina: That is such a weird scene.

Jack: It was. I remember seeing it, but it was all by accident, wasn't it? It was just knocking them out scared.

Cristina: I've only seen the remix.

Jack: It wasn't like legit fear.

Cristina: No. He really got serious.

Jack: Like he beat them up wanting to beat them up.

Cristina: Yeah, but I don't know if in the movie how it was.

Jack: Spoiler. Shaggy kills everyone in Infinity War single handedly. Point being, Shaggy is crazy.

Cristina: What if Shaggy uses 100%? You can't do that. It's impossible.

Jack: Yeah, the universe can't contain it. The universe cannot contain Shaggy at his ultimate power.

Cristina: Can Shaggy be Thanos? Kind of crazy.

Jack: What is Shaggy's power level in his base form?

Cristina: Shockingly weak. He would have to go 45%, 75% to the Thanos. So he would have to be 75% to be Thanos. That's.

Jack: That's problematic considering his power cannot be capped. So what would. So what would 75% look like to.

Cristina: An infinite amount of power?

Jack: He gains 1% of his max power.

Cristina: Every time someone follows his religion.

Jack: So. Oh yeah, I don't know if there's a church of Shaggy actually you can follow right there. The subreddit Church of Shaggy.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.

Rambling 98: Streaming Video Games

Gaming, Video Games, Internet, New, Episode, The Just Conversation Podcast, Technology, Future Technology, Advanced Technology, Science, Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, Stadia, Steam, VR, Virtual Reality, AR, Augmented Reality

What does the future of gaming look like? Should streaming games become the norm? All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Story:
In a world where corniavirus rages across the lands and people hide in fear from secret federal police beating people senseless humanity has resorted to playing video games and watching streamed television as a way to pass the time. The clone duo decide to do the world justice and fix the gaming industry for all of the gamers of the world and what they discover as they do so will change their lives forever!

Rambling 98: Streaming Video Games

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  • Streaming Platforms
  • Multiplayer Gamer
  • Gaming Netflix
  • GTA Online
  • No Man’s Sky
  • Eminem, Lil Wayne and Andre 3000
  • Fixing the Gaming Industry

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Rambling 88: Misconceptions

Undderstanding, COnfusion, COnfused, THought, Theory

What’s something you think you know but got wrong? Debunking misconceptions commonly held among people.

Story:
As the clone duo awaits Elon Musk who’s on his way to deliver them 1 billion dollars they decide to explore some of the information humans continue to get wrong for whatever reason. They learn the shocking truth about the origin of fortune cookies, what to do with all the missing people and the extreme number of senses humans have. With the help of Elon Musk and his abundance of money, the due free the mushroom people and give them equal rights as cousins of humans! All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation!

Rambling 88: Misconceptions

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  • Viking Armor and Hornless Helmets
  • American Fortune Cookies
  • Chameleon Don’t Camouflage
  • Coffee Isn’t A Bean
  • Peas and Peanuts are Beans
  • Mushrooms are Human
  • Report Missing Person Before 24hr Go By
  • Can’t Mail to Copyright
  • No Mafia Cement Shoe Murders
  • Wolves Don’t Have And Alpha
  • Dolphins Are People
  • Wake A Sleep Walker
  • More Than 5 Senses
  • Hair And Fingernails Stop Growing
  • Penguins Break Up Too
  • Elon Musk Gives the Hosts 1 Billion Dollars

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Rambling 85: The Easter Zombie

Jesus, Easter, Easter Zombie, Holidays, Religion, Faith, God, The Just Conversation Podcast

What does Easter have to do with a rabbit? Unpacking the origins of Easter and how Jesus and a mythical rabbit relate.

Story:
The duo plots on escaping the country to Zombie Island as the national shutdown continues to spread. While in the studio they take the opportunity to unpack upcoming Easter and how it relates to other holidays and deities.

Rambling 85: The Easter Zombie

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  • Egg Delivery
  • Christ Criminal Organization
  • The Resurrection
  • The First Zombie
  • Dracula
  • Scientist Christ
  • 12 Year Old Apostles
  • Holy Coma
  • Mammals
  • Sonic 7 Crew
  • Spring

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JCP 4.03 Artistic Depression & Racist Pride

Art, Artistic, Racism, Pride, Music, Writing, L4, The Just Conversation Podcast

Guest L4 (Musician & Writer) joins Jack to discuss struggles during the artistic process, current day music, racism, social oddities and their upbringing in an urban environment.

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  • Struggling Artist
  • Self Judgement
  • Depression
  • Discipline
  • Writing vs Riffing
  • Black Pass
  • Racism & Celebrities
  • Supremacy vs Pride
  • Societal Outrage
  • White Racism
  • Hood Upbringing
  • Newark, New Jersey

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Rambling 83: St. Patrick's 3 Wishes

Leprechaun, mythology, history, mythical creature, comedy, discussion, fringe, history, truth, science, religion, faith

What miracles did Saint Patrick perform? Unpacking St. Patrick’s day and it’s origin story.

Story:
As the world flees into hiding from the Coronavirus, the clones decide to go on a quest of understanding. They discuss the origin story of St. Patrick’s Holiday and attempt to understand how a man considered a Saint managed to force the Christian god Jehovah to do his bidding and grant him three wishes. In doing so our heroes discover unimaginable truths about Saint Patrick that will change what they believe and alter their lives forever. All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 83: St. Patrick's 3 Wishes

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  • Evicting The Snakes
  • Saint Barrels
  • Kids in Barrels
  • Saint Nick and Child Trafficking
  • Wizards
  • Strong Arming God
  • St. Patrick’s 3 Wishes
  • 1) Be The Best Saint
  • 2) Take God’s Judgement Job
  • 3) Ireland is Number 1
  • The Conspiracy
  • Púcas and Changelings

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JCP 4.02 A Perspectives & Purple States

Guest, Podcast, The Just Conversation Podcast, Theory, Society, Purple States, Social Issues, Racism, Donald Trump, MAGA, White Pride, Government

Guest Aaron Jones of the podcast ‘A Perspective w/ Aaron & Ashley’ joins Jack for a lengthy discussion on the nuances of American politics, the culture of fear that propels society into magnificent advancements, the Corona Virus, Universal Basic Income and much, much more.

JCP 4.02 A Perspectives & Purple States

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  • Blue States
  • Red States
  • Fear & Evolution
  • Philosophical Renaissance
  • Global Trade Market
  • The Divided Leftists
  • Lies of the Wealthy
  • Social Media Addiction
  • The Illusion of Money
  • Problems with Universal Basic Income
  • The “System” Works
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Rambling 76: Haunted Roads P1

Haunted Roads, Ghosts, Phantom, Story, Theory, Woods, Forest, Road, Paranormal, Creepy, Sketchy, Weird, Weird new Jersey, Scary, Creepy, Haunted

Is there more to the Clinton Road hauntings that meets the eye? Cristy reveals information she’s uncovered relative to Jack’s paranormal experiences ten years back.

Story:
After the Halloween Special in which the clone duo discussed their personal experiences with the paranormal, Cristy developed an unhealthy obsession with Jack’s story. Using the Illuminati access to the Freemason’s library she dug deeper into the history of Clinton Road and its parallel neighbour Paradise Road. What Cristy uncovers through research and what Jack uncovers by calling in those who experienced the events with him will change their lives forever. All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 76: Haunted Roads P1.

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Topics Discussed

  • Quiet Paradise Road

  • Haunted Clinton Road

  • Personal Horror Experiences

  • Scary Sounding Animals

  • Haunted Woods

  • Car Accidents

  • Roads That Don’t Exist

  • Witnesses

  • Alternate Realities

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Rambling 74: Questions on Apocalyptic Events

Apocalypse, The Just Conversation Podcast, Radio, Show, Comedy, Idea, Theory, Funny, Fun, Questions, Listeners, Reality, Possibilities, Debate, Show,

What will happen during the apocalypse? Questions on the subject of Apocalyptic Events and Survival are answered.

Story:
New year, same hosts, new questions, same clones. Starting the year off with an apocalyptic bang, the clone due answer listener questions to prepare for the possibility that this is the last year the human race will be around. An attack from the cat gods lingers and if such events took place it could change the shape of life as we know it. Thus, listener questions on variations of apocalyptic events are dissected in order to come up with a survival plan just in case. All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 74: Questions on Apocalyptic Events

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Questions Asked

  • What to buy before an economy collapses? 4:57
  • Rather be a zombie or everyone you know becomes a zombie? 10:34
  • Rather survive in space of underground? 13:13
  • Most likely real apocalyptic scenario? 15:20
  • Ever daydream of surviving a zombie apocalypse? 17:16
  • How do you believe people would respond to a collapsing society? 22:00
  • Meteor impact in a day, what do you do? 23:19
  • Rapture happens, who’s side are you on? 32:07
  • Best zombie killing character? 37:06
  • You get to save five humans to repopulate humanity, who do you pick? 39:30
  • A.I. turns on us, you flee society and take only three things. What are they? 47:16
  • New Year, 2000. Y2K happens. What is your first move? 49:14
  • Lightning Round 52:36

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JCP 3.12 The Middlevale Mystery & Burning Politics

Podcast Guest, Guest, Radio, The Just Conversation Podcast, Forest Fires, Writer, Writing, Finley Carraway, The Middlevale Mystery, Climate Change, Language

Guest Finley Carraway, writer of The Middlevale Mystery, joins us to discuss climate change, world politics, the evolution of language and the writing process.

JCP 3.12 The Middlevale Mystery & Burning Politics

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Topics Discussed

  • American Politics
  • Australian Politics
  • Government vs People
  • Western Politic’s Faults
  • Universal Health care
  • The Surveillance Problem
  • Forest Fires
  • Climate Change
  • The Price of Artistic Release
  • Being a Writer
  • Showing vs Telling
  • Writing Process
  • Losing Language
  • The Writer’s Prized Possession
  • Creative Freedom

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Rambling 72: Dark Technology

Dark Technology, Techology Conspiracy, Theory, Technology, Robotis, A.I. Artificial Intelligence, Coding, The Matrix, Corruption

Dark possibilities presented by the current state of technology and where it might lead to in the future are discussed.

Story:
Waiting for the meeting with the head of Illuminati to report their findings at lake Loch Ness, the clone duo decide to setup and have a discussion investigating the possibilities of future technology and where it could go. Considering the corrupt companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, Disney and others, the future looks quite dark. As they investigate the possibilities, the secret plan Elon Musk has been working on begins to become clear. The implications are terrifying! All that and more on this episode of The Just Conversation Podcast.

Rambling 72: Dark Technology

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Topics Discussed

  • Corrupt Power
  • Subliminal Messaging
  • Simulated God
  • Virtual Reality
  • Reality Buffer
  • Mind Controlled Robots
  • The Accidental Matrix
  • Creating The Borg
  • Facebook Currency
  • Companies Wealthier Than Countries
  • Elon Musk’s Mind Control
  • Rating Based Economy

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The 10ish Podcast

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Rambling 71: Ghost Questions

Ghosts, Questions, The Just Conversation Podcast, Phantom, Metaphysics, Theories, Hypothesis, Time Loop, Idea, Debate, Research, Science

Listener Questions about Ghosts, Phantoms and their origins are answered.

Story:
After finding a lab filled with chimeras at the bottom of lake Loch Ness and imprisoning a team of science cats running it, the clone duo open an investigation and immediately put the subhumans to work. While awaiting results from the investigation, the duo set up the podcasting equipment in one of the facility’s closets and decide to answer listener questions related to Ghosts. Little did they know the true depth of the situation. What they uncover of cat gods and goldfish astounds them. All this and more on this episode!

Rambling 71: Ghost Questions

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  • Believe in ghosts?
  • Are there ghosts underwater?
  • What happens if two ghosts come in contact?
  • If ghosts are conscious are they really dead?
  • Deja Vu & Time Travel
  • Is it possible to communicate with ghosts?
  • Psychics and mediums
  • Will technology eventually connect us to ghosts?
  • Ouija Boards
  • Are hauntings real?
  • Does the existence of ghosts negate the existence of heaven?
  • Been to a graveyard at night?
  • Where do dead people go?
  • Goldfish Gods

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JCP 3.11 Rob and Slim Show & Escapism

The Rob and Slim Show, The Just Conversation Podcast, Guest, Podcast Guest, Society, Social Issues, Comedy, New World Order, Politics, Podcasting, Creating, Creativity

Guest Rob of The Rob and Slim Show joins Jack for a lengthy discussing ranging from the nature of their creativity, to their understanding of faith and religion and good parenting.

JCP 3.11 Rob and Slim Show & Escapism

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  • Fake News and Politics
  • Work Ethic
  • Work Canvas
  • Singing The News
  • The Inner Artist
  • Quality Music
  • Eminem and Rap
  • Unapologetic Art
  • Crashing Ozzy’s Media Moment
  • Workaholics
  • ‘Too Many Rapes’ Origin Story
  • The College Trap
  • Collapsing System
  • Money Looks Evil
  • The Fear of Change
  • God, Prayer and Meditation
  • Parenting

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Rambling 70: Thanksgiving Special

Thanksgiving, The Just Conversation Podcasts, Slavery, Pilgrims, Indians, Native americans, Turkey, History, Theory, Fact

Thanksgiving’s origin, its connection to the Christian religion and how its rooted in Pagan ideologies are discussed.

Story:
As they wait for the subhumans the scour the lake floors of the world in search of intergalactic portals or secret underwater laboratories, the clone discuss thanksgiving with the intention of getting to the bottom of its narrative. They dig deep and find that many things believed about the holiday never occurred and uncover a multitude of layers involving several religions, twisted ideologies, myths, legends and human sacrifices. All that and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 70: Thanksgiving Special

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Topics Discussed

  • Reptilian Native Americans
  • Christopher Columbus the Cannibal
  • Murdering Native Turkeys
  • The Seven Deadly Holidays
  • Christianity’s Pagan Origin
  • The Human Sacrifice, Jesus Christ
  • Diabolical Catholic Rituals
  • The Usefulness of Religion
  • The Myth of the Pilgrims
  • Religion’s Adaptive Nature

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Rambling 69: The Loch Ness Monster

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The mystery of The Loch Ness Monster, the origin of its tales and what it might truly be are discussed.

Story:
After last episodes discovery that the Cat People staged World War 1 & 2, and that they are planning a third strike, the clone duo dive into an investigation that lead them straight to the tales of The Loch Ness Monster. Sifting through the research they find tales of ancient reptiles and chimeras, secret under water experimental facilities and portals to the other side of the universe. What of all the convoluted information uncovered is the truth? Find out, this episode of The Just Conversation Podcast.

Rambling 69: The Loch Ness Monster

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Topics Discussed

  • Origins of World War 1 & 2
  • Raiding the Worlds Forests
  • Lake Alien Rock Monster
  • What’s Known of the Cat People
  • The Loch Ness Monster
  • Godzilla
  • The Year 500 Nessy Sightings
  • Alien Experiments
  • Chimeras
  • Ancient Reptiles
  • Dinosaurs
  • Land Nessy
  • Intergalactic Portals
  • Impending Doom
  • Noah’s Arc
  • Nessy in Religion
  • Underwater Laboratories
  • Dragons

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Rambling 68: The Cat Conspiracy

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The evil plan cats have had for humans since the days of ancient Egypt is discussed.

Story:
Deep diving into the nature of cat gods of ancient civilizations and the events that took place when Jack’s second clone temporarily ran a time travelling business, the clone duo uncovers a sinister plot by cats to destroy humanity’s way of life to regain control of the world. As they investigate deeper, ties to Hitler, World War 1 and World War 2 are made. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. What the clones uncover is so disturbing that immediate action is required! Find out what and more on this episode of The Just conversation Podcast!

Rambling 68: The Cat Conspiracy
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Topics Discussed

  • World War 1
  • World War 2
  • Egyptian Cat Gods
  • The Industrial Revolution
  • Time Travel
  • Preventing World War 3
  • The Wasteland Future
  • Jack’s Dark Actions Throughout TIme
  • Subhuman Slavery

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Rambling 67: Questions About Dreaming

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Questions about dreaming, what it might be, what dreams might mean and how they related to Déjà vu and alternate realities sent by listeners are answered.

Story:
In a quest to understand the mind, subjective experience and the universe as a whole, the clone duo decide to investigate one of the more mysterious phenomenon known. Dreaming. They get listener submitted questions and do a deep dive into the topic, dissecting any and every possibility they come across. Alternate universes, time-lines, the afterlife, higher dimensions and more become possibilities as they investigate the depth of the human mind. All this and more on this episode of Just Conversation.

Rambling 67: Questions About Dreaming
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Questions Asked:

  • Is Feeling Tired in Dreams Normal? @Lucid_nap 5:55
  • Could Dreams be a Second Life? @araig973 7:30
  • What are dreams? 11:25
  • Might dreams be future sight? 13:56
  • Is Deja Vu memory? 16:58
  • Why do we have recurring dreams? 18:28
  • Can a dream kill us? 22:26
  • Could ghosts haunt dreams? 26:27
  • Is it possible dreams are an alternate reality? 33:09
  • Could demons possess us while we dream? 37:10
  • Are we different people while dreaming? 39:47
  • Are Dreams Random? 43:14
  • Might dreams be based in an alternate location? 44:39
  • Is sleep talking related to dreaming? 47:50

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