Rambling 147: Free Live Show
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Are live shows worth it? Will listeners show? Will money get made? Are the profits worth the effort? Or should the content come first and the profit be an after thought? And where do we host these shows? Can it be done at a private location? An Island resort perhaps? The duo decides where to host their first life show and who is allowed to be present to listen in.
+Episode Details
Topics Discussed
- Live Studio Audience
- 30 Listener Limit
- What is a Country?
- How do Passports work?
- Artificial Islands
- Ticket Prices
- Free Live Shows
- $1,000 Tickets
- Mega Shark
- Mechazilla
- Crocodiles vs Alligators
- The Kraken
- Unsolved Math Problems
- Guest Alex Grey
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+Transcript
Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And if you haven't yet, remember to hit that subscribe button to get notified the second new episodes are released.
Cristina: And also, this show is most enjoyed with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yes. So go find somebody and tell them you gotta listen to the show. And also tell them you gotta watch the show.
Cristina: So you gotta watch the show.
Jack: Yeah. Wouldn't be cool if we had an audience. If they just started showing up at the front of the studio and they're.
Cristina: Just, oh, we're doing this live.
Jack: Yeah, we're gonna start. We're gonna have a whole audience.
Cristina: A whole audience.
Jack: The Just Conversation podcast is recorded in front of a live audience.
Cristina: Are we going to be on a stage? Is it going to be a huge room? Or is it going to be a tiny room with a bunch of people packed in?
Jack: Oh, s***. Do we want a personal thing or do we want like a big explosive for all our hundreds of millions of listeners? Like a rock concert. Yeah, all the listeners on a stage. What everybody looking at is millions of people.
Cristina: That's too much. Let's just squeeze in a room.
Jack: Squeeze in a room like. Like the Select 30.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Private, exclusive things. Sell tickets, super expensive because there's only like 30 seats. Yeah, be like $600 a pop or the next highest.
Cristina: Giving them seats. Maybe they just stand for an hour.
Jack: Just so we got. They're paying for the spot to stand in.
Cristina: Yeah, I mean, if they're lazy, they can sit down.
Jack: Yeah, I guess. And really they're not even paying for the spot. We're just gonna fill it to capacity and just rent out a really tiny place. Yeah, like there's. There could only be 30 people here because fire hazards and.
Cristina: Let's not rent anything. Let's just do it in a park.
Jack: Then we. It's out in the open. We can. More people could just show up.
Cristina: No, but we won't let them.
Jack: How are we going to stop them?
Cristina: I don't know. We'll have a tape around us or something.
Jack: Then people are going to stand on the other side of the tape. You know what, that's good though, because they'll be like, man, but I could be on that side of the table.
Cristina: Yeah, maybe that going to get them more Curious.
Jack: But these pots are already sold or taken.
Cristina: We'll have a bigger rope or whatever around the group so that to reach the farthest that anyone can hear it, so that no one can hear it except the middle circle of people that paid.
Jack: So then here's the problem. This is logistically annoying. But possible. Right. Because we would need some speakers that the back of the inner bubble is. They could barely hear it, but still hear it. But the front of the inner bubble hears it clearly. But as soon as the second bubble begins, it's too far and you can't hear anything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we need just the right exact volume to know that sound with 30 people in there is going to travel only as far as the barrier of the inner circle and then not the outer barrier of the inner circle.
Cristina: That sounds complicated. We'll test it out.
Jack: But probably gonna take a lot of money to make this happen.
Cristina: Why do we have to pay so much to make it happen?
Jack: I don't know. Everything costs money.
Cristina: It's in the park.
Jack: Yeah. A public place that we have to pay public. Which is really just government, which they're really only. I don't know. We can't do anything legally like that.
Cristina: We can't. Why do they have to know?
Jack: Because it's an event.
Cristina: They don't need to know we're having an event.
Jack: If they showed up, they would just arrest us or give us a ticket and kick us out. Anyways.
Cristina: What if we go to a forest? Where? I don't know. Where there's no one there.
Jack: I mean, I guess. Right. Somebody has to own. Does it ever. Is everything owned?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like, every piece of dirt belongs to somebody.
Cristina: Right.
Jack: Somebody takes claim to it.
Cristina: You think we have to buy something?
Jack: No, I think we rent out space. Like. Or at least get permission. Yeah, but, like, I don't want to. Now I'm curious as to. Is there. Is there a place somewhere that isn't owned?
Cristina: And we just go there and we just go there.
Jack: But like, every piece of dirt is part of a continent inside of some country, right?
Cristina: Yeah. What about all the islands that are out there?
Jack: Unless there's nobody on the island. The island has never been discovered or.
Cristina: Is too tiny for anyone to live there. Like, there's gotta be tiny islands that you can't really do anything with.
Jack: Fair enough. But somebody owned it is the question. Does it belong to some government that then we have to rent it from? Or is there just some, like, island that has never. But like, Google Maps is the thing. Google Earth, Right.
Cristina: You think Google Earth can find it?
Jack: No, the problem is, has it? And like, could Google. If somebody's looking on Google Earth, has every place already been discovered? Is there like a billionaire who paid again was like, find an island that isn't charted, tell me where it is, I'm gonna put all my s*** over there and say it's mine because nobody can take it because I was the first. There are those rules, like if we found an island today.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Are there rules around finding the island that prevent me, the billionaire, from just being like, it's mine now? Because I just put a flag there?
Cristina: I don't. Well, you got to probably pay something for it.
Jack: For who? To who?
Cristina: To who? I don't know. I guess you have to claim which country you're under when you do it.
Jack: That's crazy, right? Like, are they just going to be like, well, it's closer to me and they're going to debate it, or do.
Cristina: You have to make it a new country or do you have to make.
Jack: It a new country?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like, do you have to make it a new country?
Cristina: You might have to.
Jack: Why? Who said.
Cristina: Because then a country will claim it.
Jack: F*** you. Right.
Cristina: That's why you got to claim.
Jack: No, but. No, you claim it yourself and you say you're not part of any country.
Cristina: Yeah. So then you gotta. It's your own country, though, is it a country? It's whatever you call it. I don't know.
Jack: Is it by default a country just because it's a landmass of its own that isn't associated with any other country? And thus I think country is the biggest you can get to before you can't get bigger?
Cristina: I think. So, like when Peter made his home his own country. Yeah. It's the same thing, I think, visit a country.
Jack: So is by default any landmass part of a country, whether or not the country, like, yeah, it's just you can't get bigger. That's it. It's just you are part of a country.
Cristina: You have to be part of something.
Jack: Well, you are the country. You don't have to be part of. You are a country.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Bare minimum, you're a country.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You might be a country of one. So your country is your main, is your capital, and it's the only town in your country and it's the only neighborhood in the only town in the only city in your country.
Cristina: Yeah. And you don't have to pay anyone taxes for that. Right, because you pay you taxes. Yeah, that sounds right.
Jack: But then do you need a passport for people to step on your country.
Cristina: Ooh.
Jack: And do you need a passport?
Cristina: You need a passport to visit other countries, Definitely.
Jack: But how do you get a passport if now you are a country and you don't.
Cristina: You already have a passport. I'm guessing before you got to that country, you were from a country, right? Like, you didn't lose all your documents from those other countries.
Jack: What? If you had no passport, how did.
Cristina: You get to that island?
Jack: Well, you didn't. You need a passport to enter. You don't need a passport to fly. You need a passport to enter another country. Yeah, but you got to this place before it was a country.
Cristina: Yeah, but you weren't traveling to different. Like, you still have a passport from where you're from.
Jack: No, you have your own airport. You have your own, and it's for local flight. You're not allowed to fly out of the country, and you're not allowed to fly into another country. There you go. Okay, now, do they let you fly into uncharted dirt if you don't have a passport? Because what you would need a passport for is that country. No, no, because.
Cristina: Okay, you wouldn't.
Jack: Okay, because there's nobody there to tell you you need a passport to get in. There's nobody there. Yes, you need somebody to tell you you need a passport to get in.
Cristina: From there to anywhere else. You would need a passport.
Jack: Would you, though? To anywhere that requires a passport. Yeah, but anywhere that doesn't require a passport?
Cristina: No, I guess not.
Jack: Right. So you can only travel the countries that don't require passports because you don't have a passport system, because you don't know how passport.
Cristina: So you gotta. You just go back to the country you came from and get a passport, though. Wouldn't you be able to travel from other countries in your new country? Once I get a passport from your.
Jack: Old country, I guess now the question is, I don't know. I don't know. So you can you fly there, you claim it's your own. It's a country by default.
Cristina: You might still need a passport from that country, though.
Jack: From what country? Your own country?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Because when you go to another country, they need to know where you came from.
Jack: And you're telling them, I came from this piece of dirt. So they need to decide whether or not that country needs a passport.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I think they need to choose. Oh, because you can't be like, well, I need. I don't need a passport. And they'd be like, well, you do. And you say, well, I need a password. It's like, we wouldn't look at it anyways because we don't take passports.
Cristina: But country that does need a passport, you do need a passport for.
Jack: Right, but the question is, what would it. Yeah, for any country that does require passport, you need a passport no matter what. Yeah, but if your country can't make a passport and you tell them that also, why would they say you need a passport from your country to enter?
Cristina: You just need a passport.
Jack: No, some could not. Okay, so like some countries don't need you to have passports.
Cristina: No, they're saying the one that you're going to, that does need a passport, you'll need a passport.
Jack: No, what I'm saying is, I don't think. For example, let's say Russia requires you to have a passport.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But if you're an American, you know, like, does it still require you to have a passport if you're like Turkish? Or can you just enter Russia without a passport if you're Turkish? And is that how the passport works? Or is it that Russia said, I need a passport? Regardless of where the f*** you come from, you need a passport. That's my question. Because if it's selective, why would they just be like, well, clearly you don't have a way to make a passport, but f*** your s***, you're not allowed in our country. You need a passport.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know.
Jack: And is it like uniform like that? Or would they just be like. Well, your country doesn't need it.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Because they pick which countries need it. Right?
Cristina: Yeah, but I feel like they will say you need it.
Jack: Like in the European Union, you just drive from one place to another without a passport. Yeah, you just drive around Europe. A lot of Europe.
Cristina: A lot of it. But not every.
Jack: Without a passport, they don't give a f***. Yeah, but if you were American going to Europe, they would need you to have a passport. So they don't need passports amongst each other in their different countries.
Cristina: Yeah, but from this island to one of those countries, you probably still need.
Jack: A passport, but you still need a password to enter Mexico.
Cristina: You do.
Jack: I think so. Or if you were to drive.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Through Mexico and be like, I'm gonna go to Guatemala. Do you need a passport or is it just flight related?
Cristina: I don't think.
Jack: No, because if you go to. If you go to Canada.
Cristina: Exactly. You don't need a passport.
Jack: Yeah, to Canada.
Cristina: But I think Mexico works the same way.
Jack: Also, if you were to stay living in Canada, you would need a passport.
Cristina: Would you?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Oh, but to Visit, though.
Jack: But to visit. And it all depends on the instance really. They don't really like, stop you from. But like, does Mexico work that way? That's my question.
Cristina: So I think Mexico works that way.
Jack: So then you can go through Mexico into Guatemala and be like, okay, yeah.
Cristina: I'm going on vacation. That's what you got to tell them. You just got to say, like, what you're.
Jack: Is that true though, or is that a guess?
Cristina: That's a guess. But I'm. I'm pretty sure it works the same as going to Canada.
Jack: But why?
Cristina: Because I think I read about it somewhere.
Jack: The going into Mexico. You don't need a passport. Yeah, I somehow doubt that. I think you do.
Cristina: Why? No, I don't think so.
Jack: Then how do you get back into the United States?
Cristina: They know you're a US Citizen. You have identification to prove it. If they don't believe you, I'm pretty sure your, your accent will prove that you're an American. Interesting.
Jack: I wonder how wrong this is or how accurate this is.
Cristina: I don't know. I'm sure he's very accurate. Sorry.
Jack: So then in theory, you could just take a boat to my island and not need a passport.
Cristina: Well, if you say so.
Jack: Because if you're interested, my point is I could take a boat out of my island to any other landmass. Is it just flight related or do countries require. If you're like, if I was going into Asia from Europe driving, but these.
Cristina: Countries know about these other countries. Your country is a new country.
Jack: No, my, my question is, if I were going from like Germany to China.
Cristina: In a car, probably need a passport, would I.
Jack: Is it just flight related?
Cristina: Is it flight related? I don't know if it's just flight related.
Jack: I've never tried crossing any border without an airplane being involved.
Cristina: Yeah, I think I'm assuming it has to not just be flight related.
Jack: Right. Like you. Because it'd be crazy. Then everybody would just do it the other way. I don't f****** pass before I just get there in a car.
Cristina: I don't know. People are lazy. They like planes fair.
Jack: And it's quicker and you could sleep through it.
Cristina: Yeah. So I don't.
Jack: I mean, it would have to be, right? That's ridiculous. It's crazy that I don't know how fast. I've never in my life taken any other form of transportation with a passport.
Cristina: I think on boats you also need passports. Right. If you're gonna go to a country.
Jack: I've never used a boat ticket again. I've Literally never. Like, I've only done planes.
Cristina: It can't be playing. It can't just be planes.
Jack: It can't just be planes. Right. It doesn't make any sense.
Cristina: If the rule is you need to have a passport, it doesn't matter how you're getting there. I think you need a passport.
Jack: Yes. Okay, so we just don't need a passport for Mexico and Canada.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Got it.
Cristina: Because they like us. No, they don't.
Jack: The question. I'm not entirely sure how you are with Mexico. I know, for Canada you don't really need it to get in. I'm not sure. I'm not 100% sure on the Mexican part, but I also don't know. It just seems like it wouldn't be the case.
Cristina: Why not? It's the other way around. We don't work the same as them. They accept us, we don't accept them.
Jack: Fair. It could totally be that way.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: So, yes, in theory, I could make an island. Not making. I guess I could make it. Do people own the waters? No, the waters aren't owned by anybody.
Cristina: Well, you want to. Are you positive you can do that, though?
Jack: Yes, people have made islands.
Cristina: But who do you ask to do that? I don't know, because that would be considered trash. And then they're like, hey, you gotta. You get a fine for making this island.
Jack: No, because you're finding the water, who finds you? I think that's the problem. Right. They dump s*** into the oceans.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Who finds you at that point?
Cristina: Who finds who?
Jack: Who's. Who's giving you the tax for what?
Cristina: Who's in the country nearest to you?
Jack: No, because they. You're in. If you're. I'm sure every country has a radius in the water.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And if you're not in their radius, that. If that line cuts off before it reaches you.
Cristina: What if every part of the water is owned by someone?
Jack: That can't be the case. That s***. That can't be.
Cristina: It probably is.
Jack: No, it probably. It can't be. It cannot be. There's a radius around everything. And that's my argument there. It has to be. It would be crazy for every bit of water to belong to somebody.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's dumb. That can't be.
Cristina: They want. They would do that.
Jack: Yes, but the problem is then you have to give every country the same thing. And nobody wants that.
Cristina: No.
Jack: So they probably sooner do the radius thing and be like, no, you don't get more water than me just because you're bigger. So, no, we all just get this much water around us.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because that's sooner than, well, that country's biggest f***. And like a good 90% of the ocean belongs to that one country. Like probably not.
Cristina: We're going to this up and it's like the queen owns all the water.
Jack: That'd be crazy.
Cristina: Like, I don't know. One person owns it all.
Jack: I think, I think there's a radius like a measurable distance from shore in every direction, surrounding every bit of shore. So it would be the exact shape of whatever borders of that country are touching water around it. Just at a farther distance from than the land.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And so it just circles the landmass in exactly the same shape of the landmass and those waters are owned and that includes islands. So islands and the same distant radius around them belongs to that island.
Cristina: Yeah. And then there's some water that's owned by no one because it doesn't touch anything.
Jack: Exactly. And then we take the island builders or whatever that team is called that.
Cristina: Builds islands and they're going in there.
Jack: Yeah. We take them to one of those best. Probably particularly deep water too because there's no land sticking up around that.
Cristina: Yeah. So it's probably not safe to build in that.
Jack: It's probably safe to build. This is probably really expensive because you got to make a hole somewhere.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And bring all that s*** there to make a hole.
Cristina: This isn't going to work.
Jack: I mean, if you had enough billions you could do it.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: I think so. I think with enough billions you could get it done.
Cristina: I guess.
Jack: There are man made islands.
Cristina: There are?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: But out there.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Not next to actual islands.
Jack: Oh yeah. Probably next to actual island. I doubt somebody just made an artificial island in the middle of the ocean.
Cristina: Yeah. Maybe you can like, I don't know, drive your island into the ocean or whatever it's called when you're riding a boat. Ride the island to the middle of the ocean. This is man made?
Jack: No, no, no. Because it can't just be floating.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: It has to be touching the bottom, rising all the way to the top.
Cristina: How do you do that?
Jack: Money. Just throw a bunch of s*** in one spot over and over and over and over until it fills up. Which means you got to make a big a****** somewhere. But whatever. Billions of dollars are going into it. You make this one, it doesn't have to be a big island. It's just a lot of stuff to make it stand successful. Without the undercurrents of stuff though. We just dig a hole, put sand in to make dirt. I don't know. And build an island with dirt that's.
Cristina: Coming from the country it's next to.
Jack: No, we. I mean, I guess I gotta buy it from somewhere.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then transport it.
Cristina: Yeah, that sounds super expensive.
Jack: Yeah. But I'm sure it won't take. Like if we use the richest guy's money. Right. And leave him $1 billion.
Cristina: But then your island's still part of that country because you're right next to it.
Jack: No, you are leaving. You're buying the stuff from the country, then going super far into UN owned waters.
Cristina: But how are you reaching that?
Jack: Would you get. There's a team of people with boats and technology.
Cristina: So you're living on the boats until you finish this project? I guess.
Jack: How do you think like a. Like an oil rig in the middle of the ocean happens?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: It's the same way we're just gonna do that tactic. Like, those are just boats technology. To me, those are boats constructing out there.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. So we just need that.
Cristina: But is that really in the middle of nowhere?
Jack: It's not so far out, but it's like. It really is kind of like if you fell, you drown.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You know.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So yeah, we. We do that.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then we get our audience into.
Cristina: That's why we're doing this.
Jack: Yeah. So we can get the audience onto the island so that we don't have to. Because we want. We're gonna put in the park. But it would be problematic.
Cristina: But. Okay, so they don't need passports to our island.
Jack: They don't need passports to our island.
Cristina: But will they need passports to go home? We still don't understand that.
Jack: Like, that doesn't. I don't. I don't care.
Cristina: How do we go home? We will live on that.
Jack: We'll get passports.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They can get passports if they want. They can come to the island.
Cristina: Countries don't want us to have passports. I don't know. They're unhappy with what we did.
Jack: What, make an island.
Cristina: Yeah. And they're like, we're not gonna give you passports or whatever.
Jack: Then we don't go into that country. We can't possibly be done with every country.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Somebody has to let us in.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then through that country, we get back in.
Cristina: But then we have the waiting date. Wait for these passports. Are we getting the passports before we do it? Like, this is going to take a long time. I mean, the whole project will take a long time.
Jack: I'm sure just the passports. We Already have are still passports and they work. Yeah, we don't need like a new set of passports.
Cristina: Okay, so. But the people that we're bringing should have their own passports at least. No, you won't worry about them at all.
Jack: I won't worry about them. You can worry about them if you want, but after the show's done, we put them on a ferry and we're like, you don't have to go home, but you gotta get the f*** out of here. And then that ferry takes off.
Cristina: Are we paying for that ferry?
Jack: We own it. Or I guess it could be like a Uber ferries.
Cristina: Uber fairies and like, I don't know.
Jack: That's a far a** trip. Yeah, like whatever we'll pay for, you know.
Cristina: How did they get here?
Jack: Man? This started as just being really cheap because we were going to do it for free, but then we had to pay the billions to get like just.
Cristina: Doing in the middle of the park and getting the find us would be so much cheaper.
Jack: But look, after we do this, we can, we can throw the show for free whenever we want.
Cristina: The goal is the show being 30 people.
Jack: No, look, the show. The goal is the show being free. Whatever other expenses we do is fine. Because the show, the principal idea is we don't pay for the show. We don't have to pay to throw the show and have guests there for the show because we're not selling them. Also, the island needs to be big enough to have the inner and the outer circle because people need to show up to the island and not be able to hear.
Cristina: Why? Why do we need those people?
Jack: Because those are just features of the show.
Cristina: Okay, so they're just gonna. We're just gonna tell people you can come to this island?
Jack: No, they're gonna know that they're there for that. But the first 30 get to hear the show and we tell them. 2nd 30 get to be on the island but can't hear the show.
Cristina: Okay, so we got 60 people besides us too.
Jack: I mean, I guess that the outside.
Cristina: Circle is bigger, like bodyguards to stop these people from going into the circle.
Jack: Because it's only being divided by yellow tape.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because again, we went real low budget on this. It's just yellow tape. Where we really went all out was the figuring out the audio problem. Yes.
Cristina: The island.
Jack: Yeah, so that the I. So the sound only travels as far as the inner wall of the inner circle. So we need really expensive tech on that, but really cheap tech on just like wrapping yellow.
Cristina: What about the island? Is that cheap?
Jack: Well, that's not part of the cost of the show. That's just an island in which we're doing the show.
Cristina: But it's man made.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And who's paying for it?
Jack: We're paying for it with the richest billionaire. I guess the richest billionaires are paying for it.
Cristina: The richest billionaire?
Jack: Yeah. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are going to get together and fund this island for us. They're each only going to keep $1 billion of their money to make this island. To make this island.
Cristina: How much do the islands cost?
Jack: Don't know. Man made islands in the middle of the ocean, though.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They want us to have our own.
Cristina: Territory and we're not even going to have like enough room for planes. It's just boats coming in somehow.
Jack: Yes, yes. There must be a floating by boat that.
Cristina: Like how long is the trip from the land to the.
Jack: No, no, listen. There must be a boat that lets planes land on it.
Cristina: Oh, what? Okay.
Jack: And then they'd be landing on that boat. It's only 30 people. We don't need a lot, I guess.
Cristina: So it's a small boat. I mean, it's a small plane. It's a small plane.
Jack: Plane that holds 30 people.
Cristina: 30 people.
Jack: And they can arrive in different patterns. Like they can arrive five here, five there.
Cristina: Okay. Like a helicopter maybe, or something small, I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, yeah.
Cristina: But can a helicopter come from some random country like so far into the.
Jack: Middle of the island? That's a real question. I feel like helicopters don't have the.
Cristina: No, and I don't think boats can do that either. I mean, boats can do that.
Jack: Boats can. It's just quite a trip.
Cristina: Yeah. It's gonna take a long time.
Jack: Yeah, it could take weeks.
Cristina: This project is complicated.
Jack: Yes. But worth it because the show is gonna be free and it'll have the feature of the inner and outer circles of which only the inner can hear anything we're saying. Making the outer people very jealous that they weren't the first 30. So that next time we host another live show in front of a studio audience there. Yeah, they can be. They can scramble for it. Jack the price up.
Cristina: And how much is the prices anyway, originally?
Jack: What, for the tickets?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We could start at a thousand dollars each ticket.
Cristina: Okay. And we're paying for them to get there and leave or. That's them.
Jack: That's all part of the ticket. The ticket to the show covers your flight there and back and back, I guess.
Cristina: Well, we're not getting much from how much we spent.
Jack: Well, it's not about us getting paid, really. We're just charging for the sake of it. We were just gonna do this in the park for free.
Cristina: And the people that didn't pay for the show, how are they getting and calling if they're not paying? Unless they're just paying a different price.
Jack: We're paying for them to get on and not be able to hear the show.
Cristina: They're paying like half off.
Jack: So the tickets of the people who paid the. Listen covered the cost of all the people who couldn't pay and now can't listen, but still made it to the island.
Cristina: Okay, that's how it's happening.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: I don't know. Okay. I feel like just doing in the middle of the park is easier.
Jack: But then how. No, it needs to be. Because then we gotta pay this f****** city.
Cristina: And how much is that compared to what you're talking about?
Jack: No, the point isn't. The point is doing the show free. Every other cost is unrelated.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah, if we do the show in the park, we have to pay the city on paper to do the show in the park.
Cristina: And if we make an island, we have to pay for the island.
Jack: Yeah, but that's not a cost of to do the show. That's just a cost to have an island. Because on the island we're gonna have the free show.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And the point is to not pay for the show.
Cristina: And that's the important thing.
Jack: That's the important thing that the show. That we beat the system.
Cristina: I don't know. I don't feel like we won anything.
Jack: We definitely won. We beat the government. We didn't pay them or ask permission.
Cristina: But I'm not sure if we still have to pay them or ask permission about making an island.
Jack: We. They can't. There's no f****** way. That wouldn't make sense. If we had to ask for permission to make an island and land that belongs to nobody or water nobody.
Cristina: But how are we gonna even like build there? I don't.
Jack: We will pay people to go do it with our billions.
Cristina: Because I'm assuming the ones that you were talking about, the oil thing, that can't be in water that's not owned. They probably.
Jack: No, that belongs to a country. 100%.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: But we.
Cristina: It's not too deep or too far.
Jack: Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. It took way less resources to build that oil rig than it will to build our island for sure. But we're gonna have an island.
Cristina: What if the mega shark attacks us?
Jack: Mega shark?
Cristina: Yeah, that really big shark The Mega Shark.
Jack: There's a movie.
Cristina: Mega Shark? Yeah.
Jack: There's probably a movie called Mega Shark. But you mean Jaws.
Cristina: No, it's mega. It's huge. I don't know.
Jack: I do remember something like that.
Cristina: Ridiculous.
Jack: And the third one is a robot shark. Mecha Shark.
Cristina: There's a Mecha shark. I don't know. That sounds like something that will fight Godzilla.
Jack: Mecha Shark.
Cristina: There's probably a Mecha shark.
Jack: There's probably a Mecha Shark. I mean, there's a Mechagodzilla.
Cristina: Yeah, he should be fighting mechanically.
Jack: Why don't they call him Robozilla?
Cristina: That sounds blamer.
Jack: Then Mechagodzilla. Yeah, they could have called him Mechazilla. D***, that's a good one. Mechazilla sounds cool, but don't. With no. Like, break in the two parts. Like if you united Mecha and Zilla.
Cristina: Like they did with God and Zilla.
Jack: Yes, exactly. Like, you don't say God Zilla, you say Godzilla.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So instead of Mecca Zilla, you say Mechazilla.
Cristina: Mechazilla.
Jack: Mechazilla versus Godzilla.
Cristina: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.
Jack: No.
Cristina: Mecca, Godzilla, shark or the Kraken?
Jack: I don't know. But in the movie Godzilla, the Kraken. What the.
Cristina: That could attack us. We're in the middle of nowhere in waters that's owned by no one.
Jack: Yeah, but the Kraken is a. It's a punk a**. I challenge him to a duel.
Cristina: I don't know. He is giant squid.
Jack: I think it is either giant squid or giant octopus.
Cristina: No, that both sucks.
Jack: Yeah, it's probably giant octopus. Because a giant squid. A squid is like real specifically shaped like a torpedo. Kind of. Like its fins are really poisonous.
Cristina: Can they. A squid?
Jack: I don't know. I don't think so.
Cristina: I don't think it's.
Jack: I mean, there's powers, but an octopus has these really long tentacles, unlike a squid. And squid has tentacles, but they're shorter and it uses it to jet. It looks like a mop.
Cristina: It looks like a mop?
Jack: Yeah. It's like the shape of mop.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Thinner.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: While an octopus is just all over the place. I think the Kraken is a giant octopus.
Cristina: Oh, I don't know.
Jack: They're probably like the same thing between a bunny and a rabbit. Like, they're not the same.
Cristina: I feel like those don't exist.
Jack: Really?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: No, I think a bunny is a type of rabbit.
Cristina: Are you sure?
Jack: I don't know. Let's find out.
Cristina: Let's find out. Okay.
Jack: Okay. So bunny is the one that's not a real word.
Cristina: That's exactly what I was thinking. I thought. Because I feel like they would call a toy that or something like, I guess a baby rabbit that you'd call a bunny or something.
Jack: So hare and rabbit.
Cristina: Those are two different things.
Jack: Those are two different things. And they're close to the same creature.
Cristina: Yeah, but bunny is not a thing.
Jack: Got you. So hare and a rabbit. But regardless, we call them all rabbits.
Cristina: Yes. Maybe that's just in this specific country and other country they call it hair. I don't know how that works.
Jack: Fair. But there's like a dominant name. Although they're two different creatures.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the same thing happens with squids and octopuses. I think we. Octopus. No, octopuses is right. God, I hate that word because. So it's not octopi. It's not octopus for plural. It's octopuses, which sounds so incorrect.
Cristina: It's not octopussy.
Jack: Octopussy. Yeah. But we can we conflate those two words. We say octopus or squid and we assume they're the same s***.
Cristina: But they're not.
Jack: But they're not. Like, a lot of people are like, you know this. I saw a squid. No, it's an octopus. I saw an octopus.
Cristina: No, they look very similar.
Jack: Yeah, they got tentacles and they got a big.
Cristina: Like, crocodiles and alligators look very similar.
Jack: I don't know what the f*** the difference is. One is bigger than the other. I know that. I guess I do know what the difference is. I just don't know which one has the name.
Cristina: I feel like if you looked at two different photos, you wouldn't be able.
Jack: To tell if it didn't have a size reference next to them.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You know, like, if I knew which one was assigned by name and there was something they were around that could tell me their size, I could tell you if it's a crocodile or an alligator.
Cristina: I don't think so.
Jack: I think the alligator is a bigger one and the crocodile is a smaller one.
Cristina: But I bet there's smaller alligators. Like, if I put a small alligator next to a big alligator, you'd be like, that's a crocodile and that's an alligator. And then I'd be like, ha.
Jack: Interesting. There's another tell.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Crocodiles have a really sharp nose. Alligators have the more rounded.
Cristina: Okay. So there's something. Okay. Because it's just size. I think I could trick you.
Jack: Yeah. And alligators are swifter because they're smaller, they're closer to, like a lizard.
Cristina: Which one?
Jack: A crocodile.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: While an alligator. So slow. Well, it's not really slow if it got really of, like, really, really got a problem. The good thing is they have short stamina.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And that's where the difference is. But if you, like, had to run a substantial difference and you were tired, you're now running it, you're f*****.
Cristina: Would it chase you a lot of time?
Jack: It won't because it needs to cool off and they try to stay by water so that. That, like, holds your swimming.
Cristina: That's it.
Jack: You're not winning. Yeah. But at least you're not as f***** as a hippo. No, like a hippos, the craziest thing. It'll outrun you on foot. It'll outrun you in the water.
Cristina: There are different types of hippos. There has to be. Right.
Jack: It has to be right. Like, be weird if there weren't just one kind of a hippo out there.
Cristina: Because they all look the same to me.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So it's like elephants.
Jack: I'm sure there's a bunch of different kind of elephants.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or horses.
Cristina: There's definitely.
Jack: Yeah. I'm sure there's no way there's one of anything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Right. Even if they look the same, but.
Cristina: For hippos, they've always looked the same. I guess I would have to just look at different types of hippos to really know.
Jack: But they showed us two different kinds of hippos at the same time. Maybe we'd be like, wait, why does this one look like. You know. And then if we saw enough of them, be like, well, this kind of hippo, is that because of that thing kind of like crocodile, Alligator.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's like they kind of the same, but when you really think about it, you're like, ah, but you have a smaller, pointier nose.
Cristina: Yeah. So there has to be different hippos. I don't know. It's just every hippo looks like the same hippo to me.
Jack: Yeah. It's like elephants. All the elephants look more or less the same.
Cristina: Yeah. I don't know. I feel more of the hippo than the elephant. I feel like there's probably differences with the elephants. Maybe you could tell from their ears, the ear shape, know how they have.
Jack: Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Cristina: Like there's probably something that's telling. I don't know.
Jack: Or rhinoceroses. Like, there's a type of a creature that it looks like they're almost the same s*** in any other, like, version of it. Like, I'm sure there's different kinds of rhinos.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But I got one, like, image of a rhino.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now, it could be because our country is ignorant of this type of animals.
Cristina: Yes. Because they're not common.
Jack: Because they're not common. And in the countries where those animals are common, they could just tell them apart.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You know.
Cristina: Well, but even some animals that are common here, I don't think I tell the difference. Like a type of squirrel.
Jack: Fair enough. Oh, well, no, there are types of squirrels. There's the regular squirrel and for example, the flying squirrel. You can already tell those two apart.
Cristina: Yeah, well, yeah. That's very different, though.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: No, I don't.
Jack: Is a chipmunk a squirrel?
Cristina: Huh? Yes. I think I could tell a chipmunk from a squirrel apart, at least.
Jack: Is it a squirrel? It's a type. They're the same. Like umbrella.
Cristina: I think so.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: I don't know. But then is a rat the same? I don't know.
Jack: Is the chipmunk closer to a rat than it is? Oh, no, A squirrel is a rat.
Cristina: Is a squirrel a rat?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Squirrel's a rodent.
Cristina: Okay. Yes.
Jack: Which is what also chipmunk is, Right?
Cristina: Yeah, I think so. That sounds d***.
Jack: But then there's so many different kinds of rodents. I guess it doesn't work the same as, like, can we tell different types of chipmunks apart?
Cristina: Definitely not if there are different types of chipmunks.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Because I could be like, we could.
Jack: All tell what a feline is until. Different types of felines. But if I'm like, could you tell me two different types of, like, lions?
Cristina: No.
Jack: Right?
Cristina: No. Yes.
Jack: And now. Well, there are many different types of canines, but, like, you could probably tell me many differences between the different kinds of huskies, which region one came from or what. Those are common to us.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We can see the white husky and be like, oh, that's from this side. Well, that. That blue. And like. Okay, that one's more wolf. Because this.
Cristina: Okay. I think that's. Yeah. Dogs are easier, I guess.
Jack: Same thing with cats. There's. We could just say house cat. I could say Japanese bobcat, or I could say Siamese cat. Or like, you know, these are different types of domesticated cats.
Cristina: I think people know more dog types than cat types.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Cristina: Or breeds, or whatever you want to call it. Breeds.
Jack: We could tell the breeds apart and then we can tell difference up between. Within the breeds. We can get really granular with dogs.
Cristina: Exactly. Yes. With the Dog? Yep.
Jack: Like, there could be a Chihuahua, but it could be Chihuahuas from many different places. And you can tell different types of Chihuahuas. And Chihuahuas are pure Chihuahuas and things like that. We could just tell by looking at them.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But like, I couldn't do that with an elephant.
Cristina: Or a rat.
Jack: Or a rat. Well, we don't look at rats enough. You know, Also, we live in a weird bubble without them.
Cristina: What about hamsters? Everyone has hamsters. Okay, maybe not everyone has hamsters, but.
Jack: Could you tell difference between two different types of hamsters, or are they just both hamsters to you?
Cristina: Yeah, they're probably just hamsters because have.
Jack: You looked at enough hamsters to be this is what's different? Or whatever? F***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But, like, I've recently been learning a lot about horses. And before, horses all look the f****** same to me.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But now it can start telling you some differences. I can't get granular with it, but I can tell you, like, different types of horse.
Cristina: Yeah. You know enough about horse.
Jack: I know enough about horses. I know Turkomani and the Arabians, man.
Cristina: Are there separate in that? Like, are they all the same?
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: Like, is that the breed?
Jack: Those are. Yeah. Well, I guess it's countries where they come from and a lot of the horses are acknowledged for the country that breeds that type of horse, even if there might be variants that aren't necessarily country related, but within the country, that same type of horse might have different variants. Yes, but you can tell who. Who bred it based on the type of code and based on the behaviors that the horse like, the traits it has.
Cristina: So you can tell what country you came from?
Jack: Yeah, a lot of the time.
Cristina: Okay, well. And they look so different from each other, though eventually you tell the difference. At least from a big horse to a small horse is the easiest to tell the difference. Yeah, like, I don't know.
Jack: Like, I. My Google search for this took place in me asking the God of all knowledge, what's the best horse in the world?
Cristina: You asked Google that?
Jack: Well, I asked Google And I guess YouTube is also Google.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And just went down a rabbit hole of people who love horses, talking horses.
Cristina: And what's their best.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Did they all agree.
Jack: They all agree that the greatest horse in the world is the Arabian. But the videos I was focusing on are other than. Because everybody had the same argument on the Arabian. Okay. So other than the Arabians, who's the next best? And everybody goes to the Turk and.
Cristina: It'S because they're the prettiest they're beautiful.
Jack: They're elegant. They're tall. They're slender. Their performance is great. They're incredibly intelligent or incredibly fast.
Cristina: Do they have contests? Like, you know how in the date. You know how we do with the dogs? And we have contests for dogs.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: And competitions. That's what I mean. You have dog competitions that, you know, test out their ability, how they pay attention, all these different things about the dog or whatever, and they look at their coat and see how good it's kept and etc. Is that picky?
Jack: Yeah, we have contests like that for horse.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess we would have that for everything.
Jack: Yeah. 100 for random.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's probably a cat version of that.
Cristina: Oh, there might be a cat version of that. What?
Jack: Yeah, it's probably.
Cristina: Yes. I just know I've seen a few dog ones.
Jack: Interesting. Man, this is so much crap we don't know about. Crap we don't know anything about anything.
Cristina: There's too much to know.
Jack: There's too much to know.
Cristina: There's too much. You just gotta pick a thing.
Jack: You just gotta know that you can pick many things.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You'll never get everything.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: And the more things you pick, the less you'll know about any one specific thing. But everything is infinite.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So you could, in theory, dive fully into one thing and know nothing else and never finish about.
Cristina: And there's some people that do that too.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: There are people who are experts in one area and retarded everywhere else, and people who are not even experts, but, like, really proficient in many areas. There are people who are experts in many areas. There are people who suck in a lot of areas, but they know enough about each area to survive.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
Cristina: Mm. But there's just too much to know.
Jack: Too much.
Cristina: No one can ever know anything. Everything about anything.
Jack: No, but they will say everything about everything and. No. Everything about any.
Cristina: Anything.
Jack: Yeah. No, that's right.
Cristina: Like, experts would say that they. They know.
Jack: We know all the. No, you don't know.
Cristina: You don't know.
Jack: You just. You know everything you could. Or that you've thought about figuring out. D***. That's the hard one. Swallow. Like you haven't even thought of all the questions yet. How do you know everything?
Cristina: No, you don't.
Jack: You don't even know what questions you have not answered yet. The best way would be to say, we've answered every question we've asked. Yeah, that's a good way to sell something. We've answered every question we've Ever asked. Now, when somebody asks a question that you did not think of, we broke it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's what happens with math and science all the f****** time.
Cristina: That's. Yeah. That's why, you know, that you can't know about everything.
Jack: Yeah. Because. Especially with math, because science is primarily based on math and math will stumble upon weird s***. And it'd be like, well, this because that. But like, why is this over here going on? It's like, well, we don't know just how it happened.
Cristina: It happens.
Jack: And that's okay. Because most people think math is infallible. Right. And that's like, wrong. There are unsolved math problems, a ton of them just out there, and they might have a solution.
Cristina: Answers are come up, like, I guess problems are solved. That's what I meant.
Jack: Probably not often some of these have stood the test of time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like math problems, just not forever. And we always think, like math. No, that's the most solid thing. It helps us with everything. But can you imagine if we found out there was some part of math we didn't understand that made everything else function? Because we didn't know that we didn't know it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then when we figured out, we're like, f*** every. Everything.
Cristina: We started with math and we learned different things. We haven't added anything recently, but from like 1 to. What is it, 1 to 10 to 0 and then negative numbers and then.
Jack: Well, no, there's things added to math all the time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I mean, taught in school.
Cristina: But even now there's still things discovered.
Jack: And added to figure out things that you could do with math progressively.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: Yeah. That's sort of the problem people think, and they kind of try to convince.
Cristina: Us that it's all solved, that it's.
Jack: All solved and math is infallible. And it's not. It's not. There are problems that have never been solved. And can you imagine if in solving one of those, we realize every other thing that we've ever. Like the world we built in math.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or the world we built around us based on math.
Cristina: Was wrong.
Jack: Was wrong because of some piece we didn't even know to question before.
Cristina: Yes. Do we just pretend that that doesn't exist? Because that's a lot. That's a lot to redo.
Jack: Yeah. Well, we have to do all of everything. Or like, it's worked as long as we. But can you imagine? We find out, well, this is why peace never happened.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's like, what, it was a math problem.
Cristina: Yeah. But then I guess we would try to solve it.
Jack: Like it's too late now because how far down the decimal points we went, you know? Yeah, like we're here. This is. We should have started this back then, but we only figured it out now. Cuz we're f****** stupid. And built society without understanding.
Cristina: Yeah, math is complicated.
Jack: Why the f*** we don't even know if we can go to. Because we don't know anything. We don't even know if we can go to the center of the ocean where nobody owns it.
Cristina: Every question. Yeah there is to know.
Jack: We don't know if we can make an island in the middle of the f****** ocean.
Cristina: We'll never be able to make an island in the middle ocean.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Because that's crazy. That's as crazy as making a city underwater. Like in Bioshock.
Jack: But like, I mean, who says what? I mean it's a logistic nightmare. I understand, but it's not. I doubt it's impossible.
Cristina: I think it's impossible.
Jack: You definitely need compression technology. Well, no. There's facilities underwater.
Cristina: Are there?
Jack: There are.
Cristina: Those are realistic. Yeah.
Jack: I mean not like way in the bottom of the center of the ocean.
Cristina: They make it seem like we're not.
Jack: We're also not gonna have a facility down in the bottom of the ocean. We're gonna just throw crap down there that's gonna compress with the weight of more crap until it gets to the top.
Cristina: Isn't someone gonna complain that we're.
Jack: Who? We're not throwing just like McDonald's wrappings in there.
Cristina: Are you sure?
Jack: It's just we're using dirt and like.
Cristina: We'Re building a thing from another country.
Jack: And on the flip side. Don't be crazy. We decide we're gonna own this. We're gonna build it and we take. We buy all the literal garbage from everywhere. But we need a way to contain it from spreading out. Because we would turn all into the solid that we would use to then put the island in the solving a huge problem. The amount of pollution we would cause with machinery running to build the island though would definitely not compensate for the like we're taking trash and we're causing. Probably causing more pollution than it is we're solving.
Cristina: So won't people complain?
Jack: Nobody can stop us. Why can somebody force like, I don't know, North Korea to have less emissions? No, they do what the they want.
Cristina: But we're not a real country. We.
Jack: As soon as. That's my point. Do we become a real country?
Cristina: But like probably one is done. But if someone tries to stop us.
Jack: Beforehand, who is allowed?
Cristina: I don't know. But, like, if someone does, like, once.
Jack: I'm not in your shores and I'm.
Cristina: Far enough of a country yet because the country's not finished, can't they stop you because you're still part of whatever country you're from?
Jack: How am I part of whatever? Who's stopping me? I mean, once I leave their waters, what jurisdiction do they have? I'm not the property of f****** the United Kingdoms or the United States. I'm not their property. Once I'm out of their thing, I.
Cristina: Don'T tell you it's wrong. Then, like, they'll arrest you if you decide to come back from your island.
Jack: Why do they have the right to tell me it's wrong? I doubt that's accurate. That could not be the case. I doubt it. I believe once I'm out of whatever the radius is.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: This is the only thing that makes sense because we would be killing everybody all the time for the most water.
Cristina: For the most water.
Jack: The only way to solve this problem is to say there's a distance from your land and that's it.
Cristina: But they might want to try to stop you from reaching that Disney have.
Jack: Then I will immediately contact the countries that support the treaty because that means somebody else is enforcing some s*** in public water. And now if they can do that means you can.
Cristina: Because you're traveling their water to get to your water. They could stop you from traveling their.
Jack: Water income to their businesses. They're not allowed to do that. No. Because that's an independent country. And so because there's an independent country doing business and doing business with that country and they have legal rights to that water and they can come in and out of that water for work.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then they take that to the middle of the ocean where they're dumping it. And I get this done by all the countries that are willing to help.
Cristina: And build one country. Who would want to help?
Jack: Well, however many of these companies there are, it's not the country itself helping. It's just different companies. I'm hiring from all these different countries.
Cristina: The actual countries aren't happy with what you're doing.
Jack: They can't do anything.
Cristina: They can get those companies in trouble.
Jack: Right. And then the company will help you. But I doubt every single company from every single country, some countries gonna be like, yeah, it's fine. I don't. If they're gonna enforce s*** on the water, then they're trying to look for a fight, because we can all do that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And there nobody Wants that heat.
Cristina: No.
Jack: You decide to be the first to enforce what stops every other country in the world from turning on you for disobeying the whole we're not gonna grab all the water treaty.
Cristina: Mm. Okay.
Jack: You know.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The moment you say they can't is because you feel you have authority over that water that cannot be claimed.
Cristina: But they're talk. But what if they're just talking about the water that they own, though? They don't want you to go into their water.
Jack: I'm not going into their water.
Cristina: These businesses are right. They're going every fourth from your water to their water.
Jack: The problem that you're seeing here is If I hired 150 companies from 150 different countries, every single one of the 150 countries said no. They all had the same idea. Then they disagreed with each other, which has never happened in the history of ever.
Cristina: No.
Jack: That would be the easiest way to make peace. I should start this project just to establish world peace, because I can get everybody to agree on one thing or more risk. Realistically, there'll be some countries that are like, whatever, do what you want.
Cristina: Okay, so you got to go to that country. Yeah, maybe. I feel like that's more realistic.
Jack: That's way more realistic. I doubt the don't build this island in the middle of uncharted waters movement is not how we establish world peace. But, like, yeah, the argument you're putting forward says that might be possible.
Cristina: No, I think, yeah, some countries will agree.
Jack: Some countries might even not agree, but they're gonna disagree simply because they don't like one of the countries that agreed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And it's like, no, you can't do it. And it's like, well, we f****** hate you. So he can do it now. What?
Cristina: And he can use all our dirt.
Jack: Yeah, use all our dirt. We'll give you dirt.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know. And then both. Then would they want your island to be part of their island?
Jack: No, because you do all these things. Like, maybe, you know, we want to establish direct trade ports first because, you know, we supported you.
Cristina: Yeah. I imagine this is Russia the only country that decides that they're gonna help you.
Jack: But also, I mean, China's on board, too, for sure.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, those countries are like, yeah, we'll do this, but, you know, I'm down. We get something.
Jack: If Russia wants me to build is down to support me to build an island in the middle of nowhere.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Then I'll accept it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Come on, Russia. Come on, China. Let's do this. Let's team up so I can build this island and we can have 30 people shows. They're gonna gain nothing, but their companies will. I guess they do, because that tax comes through their com, through their country.
Cristina: And maybe you have to, like, advertise their countries or something.
Jack: Yeah, I know. Because their products already have, like, watermarks and crap on them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's like. Yeah, your products are in our country, and the buildings that are in here were built by your people. So, you know, Russian buildings in China. I'll let you make them look however you want. It doesn't matter. Yeah, a building, I guess.
Cristina: AIM building.
Jack: Mean by both the Russians and the.
Cristina: Chinese of each leader.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And on every. Everywhere, actually, they just have statues of themselves all over the island.
Jack: It's a small island. There probably only fit two statues in the audience.
Cristina: Oh, okay. And the audience. And what about the other audience?
Jack: Yeah, yeah, all of the. Everything we discussed would fit on that island with a little more room so that at night we don't all drown to death. Also, they're only there on that island for one hour.
Cristina: For one hour. Oh, yeah. Because of the show.
Jack: The show's only an hour.
Cristina: Yeah, it has to be a little longer than an hour.
Jack: I mean, they arrive before and after. Well, we don't have to worry about the people in the outer circle. So it's like when the last of the 30 walks into the inner circle, the show just immediately begins. Yes, that's when the clock starts on the spot.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And as soon as it's over, we just get on the chopper and we're out. We're off to the nearest boat where we board a jet and that takes us away.
Cristina: And then we go on to our other island with the zombies.
Jack: Yes. Yes. Zombie Island.
Cristina: Yeah, that's where we.
Jack: That's part of a country.
Cristina: That's part of country. What country owns that island?
Jack: That's wherever the f*** the UFC Fight island is.
Cristina: The Fight island owns the other island.
Jack: Well, whatever island. Well, Fight island is owned by somebody.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: But it's a tiny little country or some s*** like that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So Fight island is part of that country, and we are part of whatever that country is. Yeah, I mean, we're there illegally anyways. Who cares?
Cristina: Yeah. I think we took over Fight island and put the zombies there.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And that's how we ended up owning the island.
Jack: Yes. And it's also a castle made of toilet paper.
Cristina: And a theme park.
Jack: And a theme park. Yeah, it's a. Yeah, it's a fort and a theme park.
Cristina: Yep. That's a cool island.
Jack: It's the best island made of all the toilet. Because we know the toilet paper fights the COVID and that's why that island came to be. Because toilet paper fights Covid, and that's.
Cristina: Why we're still alive.
Jack: And that's why we're still alive.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's the logic of the world. So I guess that's the way to have this show, really.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We're gonna. We gotta go get all the resources, pay all the companies. We got a lot of paperwork to do.
Cristina: A lot.
Jack: A lot of paperwork. But it's gonna work. It's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna love it.
Cristina: Or you can just go to the park.
Jack: I don't want to pay, and I don't want to ask for permission. I don't have to ask our island permission, and I don't have to pay our island.
Cristina: We go. That's abandoned, and we do it there illegally.
Jack: I'm not breaking the law. Everything I just said was to do it legal. This whole episode is how to do this.
Cristina: Complicated, though.
Jack: Yeah. You rather just break the law instead?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Am I the one who's following the rules this time?
Cristina: Your rules are insane.
Jack: I didn't make the rules. I didn't make any of these rules. We're just trying our best to follow these rules and make an island, I guess.
Cristina: What? The whole island thing is crazy too.
Jack: The island thing is crazy, but the rules that made the island thing crazy are the problem.
Cristina: Like, renting a room would have been a better choice.
Jack: And then we could do it inside. But it was supposed to be outdoors.
Cristina: Yes, well, we could. I changed my mind. Let's do it inside.
Jack: So we're just instead scrapping everything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So this episode is essentially like a Family Guy dream episode.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Where they're like, how angry would people get if they found out that none of this is ever gonna happen? Because they were. They were convinced we were about to do this.
Cristina: No, they weren't. Everybody made it into this.
Jack: No, everybody made it through this whole episode. And they're like, well, you know, this is amazing. And I can't wait to be one of the first 30. Or I guess the only 30.
Cristina: It makes the ticket cheaper, though. They don't have to pay a thousand dollars. They wanted. They wanted on some random island.
Jack: No, they wanted the experience of going to the island. They wanted the experience of going to the island for one hour. What a weird story. They're so mad at you right now.
Cristina: For a thousand dollars, I feel like so Much could go wrong. They're just gonna feel like the island is gonna just. Just. I don't know, drown.
Jack: They're just gonna comment that you ruined their hopes and dreams.
Cristina: No, no.
Jack: Yeah. They're gonna be like, oh. Oh, she ruined it. It was gonna be great. I was gonna have a weird story about taking a weird flight to this place.
Cristina: Who's just like, I was gonna survive that.
Jack: What do you mean, survive it?
Cristina: It's just a horrible idea. I don't know. It's a tiny island.
Jack: What?
Cristina: They'll have garbage and there. I don't know.
Jack: It's gonna be the best island. Come on.
Cristina: People would show up their statues like, what if.
Jack: No, it's gonna be.
Cristina: It's in the middle of, like, the ocean.
Jack: It's built by professionals.
Cristina: Super windy. It's probably extra, extra, extra windy because nothing's there.
Jack: It's built by professionals.
Cristina: The water is gonna kill us. The water is so crazy in that part.
Jack: No, we're gonna.
Cristina: Ocean.
Jack: It's not like this tall of buildings. The water isn't going.
Cristina: Yes. Yes, it is.
Jack: Then again, we don't really know.
Cristina: Right, exactly.
Jack: Because there's nothing out there.
Cristina: Dangerous area. Like, how are we gonna survive? I don't think we survived.
Jack: No, the water doesn't move like that. That'd be crazy.
Cristina: Are you sure?
Jack: Yeah, we just make enough height and we don't have shows when there's, like, a f****** crazy storm.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They're not gonna be traveling there in the middle of a crazy thunderstorm.
Cristina: Like, what if we can't predict the weather there? What if it works like the Bermuda Triangle or whatever?
Jack: That's crazy. What if we build this in the Bermuda Triangle?
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Is that in the shores of. If that. Is that within the f******. Could we do it in the very middle? We're all people with pain.
Cristina: How would we get it done?
Jack: I don't know. Ships would come in and out somehow.
Cristina: They'll die. We'll lose so many people trying to build it.
Jack: The question is, is that still happening in the Bermuda Triangle? Or was that just some s*** we didn't understand? Now we're like, well, though we have the technology to just easily fly over.
Cristina: It, we probably just fly around it.
Jack: You think we just gave up on it? No, that's not like a f******. There's just. There's not a part of the world. We were just like, f*** that patch.
Cristina: Yeah. Why not?
Jack: At the beginning, I'm sure. I know now. There's like, somebody figured it out. Like, oh, obviously it was this Only planes made of these materials can go through, and they won't get pulled down by the giant magnets at the bottom or whatever the f*** is happening, you know?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, that area has a specific type of methane gas that destroys engines and then just fails and does not go through it. I mean, they make planes that handle it well, you know, and ships that just floats and made a majority plastic and, like, aluminum.
Cristina: I feel like it's easier for them just to go around it than try to build newer, better planes. Because plane company suck.
Jack: Yeah. Boeing would send people straight through there.
Cristina: And then they die. That's probably gonna happen all the time.
Jack: Both of those planes that crash from Boeing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Enter the Bermuda Triangle. So far away they landed, didn't crash and crash somewhere.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah. But nowhere near the bbut, of course.
Jack: Because we don't know what happens here. They got teleported to where they crashed.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: They were going through the Bermuda Triangle. They blinked out and just hit a mountain or something.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Jack: All facts. All this is true stories for days.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: This is a lie anyways. We're running out of time. So now you guys know how we're gonna have the next show. It's gonna be on an island in the middle of what's just conversational.
Cristina: And say it again.
Jack: Just conversation.
Cristina: That's such a hard name to say.
Jack: It's fine. They'll figure it out after I say it.
Cristina: Enough time. Just conversation.
Jack: This conversation. And no.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it's spelled X equal sign and number one.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Yeah. And just as we have this island made, we'll post on, you know, Ticketmaster, you guys can buy your tickets to listen to. We also need to make sure Putin and Z send us their statues to put there. We're gonna have everything in front of the statues.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah, it's gonna be great. You guys are gonna come. We're gonna have 30 people in the inner circle and you can hear the show and then 60, because it's bigger outside.
Cristina: Oh, 60 hours.
Jack: So we'll have 60 on the outer circle. They can't hear anything but can watch you having fun.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Listening to the show.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: That's maybe. Maybe it'll be a special episode. Two hours long. Because a special location.
Cristina: We're gonna have a guest. A special guest that we don't call.
Jack: Them two in one. Alex Gray coming to you on that episode. Alex Gray. Facts. Is gonna have Alex Gray on this random island.
Cristina: Yes. Well, also, we need his wife because he takes her. What do you mean?
Jack: Allie, Alexandria, Alex. Alex, her, she misses. Yeah. The other is gonna show up as well, and she's gonna love it. And Alex is kind of shy, so she'll do most of the talking. Talk to us about his paintings.
Cristina: Yeah, she's gonna talk to us about his paintings. Yeah.
Jack: Tell us about his art and stuff. And. Yeah, facts. This is. This is factually, without a doubt, we're gonna have an island before the. Don't. Don't doubt us. You can hold us to this. We're honest folk.
Cristina: For the next episode.
Jack: For the very next episode. The next time you hear our voices after this episode, it's going to be taking place on an island.
Cristina: Recording that episode.
Jack: Yeah, 100. It's gonna take place on an island. I mean, we could have a private episode and not show it. And only the people who were there.
Cristina: Oh, that's probably better.
Jack: It's probably better. And then they can't hold us to anything. I'm saying.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So factually, only the people who bought the tickets, and we'll see who the most consistent listeners are and only send them the invites. So if you didn't get an invite, you don't hear this show enough because we tracked you through math or whatever people do.
Cristina: Google somehow.
Jack: Yeah, Google somehow supplies that information. They'll tell us we could. If we could realistically probably just buy it. Yeah, like off of Google, Facebook, Facebook. You have a Facebook?
Cristina: Factually, Facebook has.
Jack: They don't even. They have Google's data of how often you listen. They have Apple's data. Apple didn't even give it to them. Google' Facebook is just hacking in the mainframes and stealing data just to sell it. It's a giant crime organization that we're all just okay with.
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: It's fire. Anyways. So we're gonna get your data and only to the 30 most often listeners. So, you know, start listening more often or you won't ever know that you didn't get that invite. Go listen to all the older episodes. That's all.
Cristina: We only invite 30 piece. What if not all of them accept?
Jack: Yeah, no, no, no.
Cristina: It'll be like 30 that accept.
Jack: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The first 30 that accept it, we're gonna send it out in the first 30 get in.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
Jack: And you guys can listen to all those episodes that are gonna make you more frequent listeners. This is how you enter. Basically, you listen more. So you enter to win an invite in which you pay us.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Fair. So you're gonna get an opportunity to give us money.
Cristina: A thousand dollars.
Jack: Thousand dollars.
Cristina: Which is not much compared to what we're giving you.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Because you're getting island that's arguably worth multiple billions for an hour.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Wow.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the show you can't put a price on art.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Priceless. You're getting priceless. And whatever the cost of the island are simultaneously so expensive and priceless.
Cristina: Amazing.
Jack: Oh, value.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: You could listen to all those episodes on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or any way you get your podcast.
Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tick Tock at just combo pod.
Jack: Yes. And remember to subscribe so that you get more episodes you see and leave reviews. That's probably a good way to enter as well, because we know you're listening more often. And not just the review. I mean read it, but review it. Throw words in there, you know, so you put little start thingy, little star, someone 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 12, 15, 30, making multiple accounts and give us different reviews. Do whatever. It's up to you.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We don't care. But do that and also leave reviews.
Cristina: Yeah, that'd be nice.
Jack: Yeah. Words.
Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is a very important thing for us. Yeah, We. We just told you how the future show is gonna go. You can't hear it because we're gonna record a normal episode that you're gonna hear. But you'll know that maybe you missed.
Cristina: Out on that on that episode.
Jack: But if you tell more people, then we know we were the guy. Yo, Christy. The guy's information we stole using Facebook and they sold it to us when we gave them $10.
Cristina: That guy told like three people.
Jack: Because we can see his whole friends connections through his phone. Yeah, because Facebook on his phone.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like we know he's talking to that girl Sandra. And now Sandra tuned in and he was listening and she wasn't listening, which means he told her we got that data. Cuz Facebook. And we'll know that if you told somebody they tuned in and they're your friend. We knew they were your friend before. We're like, how many friends of this guy listen? Not one of them. That one does. Now the odds are he told them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we'll just so see if your friend by chance randomly stumbled upon the show. Actually, unless they googled some s***, which we can trace your friends status too, because Facebook gives us all that stuff.
Cristina: Whoever you message, whether it's about a show or not about it, we're just going to know. I'm just going to know cuz Facebook.
Jack: Anyways, yeah.
Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye.
Cristina: Is some language and you heard it like it's common.
Jack: Yeah, I heard a group of people tossing around cuck nug f*** it regularly and then pretending they were angry at one another and joking around.
Cristina: I feel like you would have asked. Why wouldn't you have asked what it meant?
Jack: They were complete strangers. I just heard a group of people talking about cuck nug fuckets.
Cristina: That's not a word.
Jack: You don't know that.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Kug kug nug fug it.
Cristina: No. You could ask Google.
Jack: Google wouldn't know. It might be like a hidden language that Google knows nothing about.
Cristina: Or it's a language that you made up right now.
Jack: I did not make it up. I did not make up Kugnug fugit.
Cristina: Yes you did. Yes you did.
Jack: No.
Cristina: Doesn't sound like anything.
Jack: It's a factual thing. Kugnug fugit.
Cristina: You don't even know the language.
Jack: I don't. Of course not. It was just a bunch of people talking about Kugnug fugitive it.
Cristina: And you can use that in a sentence.
Jack: They were doing it. I don't know how to use it in a sentence. I don't know what it is.
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