Rambling 150: Shadow God
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Is there a pattern in Groundhog God’s behavior? Is there a pattern in which other God’s we see? Why is Adrenochrome so prominent in everything the underworld offers throughout the course of history? Is the point of reality Adrenochrome related? After being attacked by a rabid groundhog, the due decide to unpack the connection of God, Groundhogs, Adrenochrome and Technology. Additionally delving into the Facebook Metaverse name change and what their new artificial reality will be capable of. What the duo uncovers about the metaverse is a flash from the past no one could have seen coming!
+Episode Details
Topics Discussed:
- Groundhog God
- Facebook’s Metaverse
- Androids
- Elon Musk
- Ugandan Knuckles
- Genocidal Jack
- Illuminati Clones
- Caligrians
- The Clone Origins
- Planet X
- The Death Star
- Cat People
- The Shadow Realm
- Yu-Gi-Oh
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+Transcript
Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Cristina: Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And I'm Jack.
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Jack: Yes, and also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss. So be sure to find somebody to listen to this show with. That's always the most important part. You go find somebody. Ah, my throat hurts so much it's crazy.
Cristina: Why? What's wrong with your throat?
Jack: You know what's wrong with my throat.
Cristina: You got Covid.
Jack: I got Covid. Can you imagine? Just be here in the. In the showroom, recording. I got Covid. Everybody's getting Covid. We're all catching COVID Because I brought Covid.
Cristina: Yeah, it's crazy, because you got the shot. What was it you told Clevername? You got it 7 times already?
Jack: 17 times.
Cristina: 17 times the shot.
Jack: 17 times the most vaccinated human, and.
Cristina: You still caught it.
Jack: And I still caught it.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: And it's killing me.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: I'm probably going to be replaced soon with another clone.
Cristina: Clone.
Jack: Hopefully I make it. I mean, that was the goal, right? I caught the COVID and that's not even why I sound the way I do. No, that's unrelated.
Cristina: That's unrelated. Yes.
Jack: I just have Covid. That's another fact. Yeah, I just have Covid, But I was trying to beat the COVID with a beaver. With a.
Cristina: No. Groundhog. Yeah, they're all the same. Okay. Groundhog.
Jack: Yeah, they're close.
Cristina: They're close, you know?
Jack: God d***. But my throat hurts so much. So I'll fill you guys in with what happened. So I went out with some of the subhumans, and we decided we're going to go catch groundhog God, Jehovah. But I also decided we can get a normal groundhog and try to create a groundhog God. The groundhog God, like Jehovah. And so we went and we caught a normal groundhog, and we trapped it, and I was gonna inject it with some adrenochrome to see what would happen when the m*********** bit me in the neck.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: So were you able to inject it afterwards? Yeah. Okay, so, like, I'm not gonna have, like, groundhog powers or anything, which would be dope.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Depending on what that would be, I guess.
Cristina: What do you mean? Any power should be a dope power.
Jack: I suppose.
Cristina: What would be a bad power?
Jack: I don't know, like I become a groundhog or I'm like a human size. Think about like the. The Beast from X Men.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like his life sucks. Or think about the thing from the Fantastic Four. Yeah, I get. Yeah, that's garbage, bro.
Cristina: I mean, as superheroes, it's fine dope. But in their normal lives as human beings, I guess that it sucks.
Jack: Yeah. Like, if I turned into. It would suck if I inj with adrenochrome and bites me and then I become like a giant groundhog.
Cristina: Yeah. That still speaks and everything.
Jack: Like, yeah, that sucks.
Cristina: Yeah, that sucks.
Jack: Oh, so, yeah, it sucks to talk. It hurts. It's. It. I sound weird.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like, it's hard to even explain what's going on because it caught me on the right side of the neck. So it didn't hit like the jugular vein or any important thing.
Cristina: You didn't bleed out.
Jack: And like we have all the secret Illuminati medication. So, like, I'm not going to get rabies or anything. Although, like, we had cures for like normal people can access cures for rabies, but I got like mega cure for rabies. So that's all stuff that's happening. But like, I can't do high pitched.
Cristina: Sounds or it will kill you.
Jack: Yeah, man, it hurts. I might die if I do some. Any kind of high octave thing where not even.
Cristina: What if you accidentally do a high octave and then you die in this while we're recording this?
Jack: That would be tragic. But then I would be replaced immediately by a more clear sounding clone.
Cristina: So should we try to kill you?
Jack: No, because I like living. That's a fact.
Cristina: Sure.
Jack: Yeah. I enjoy being alive quite a bit.
Cristina: All right, just checking.
Jack: Yeah. So that's what's happening over here. Just a lot of.
Cristina: So we couldn't find the groundhog God, though.
Jack: We haven't done that yet. We haven't even gone out to find out if there is a groundhog God that we're gonna catch. We're presuming that that's the thing, and it probably is.
Cristina: Realistically, I thought we were doing that. And you also wanted to test out if you could turn one into the God.
Jack: We're gonna go. We're hunting to see where we're gonna find groundhog God. We gotta look in the area where the groundhog that predicts the weather or whatever the f***.
Cristina: I think that's in Philadelphia. Right. I don't know. Maybe. His name is Phil, I'm assuming. Yes.
Jack: His name is Phil, therefore he is from Philadelphia.
Cristina: He's named after the location he lives. Positive.
Jack: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: PPP Yeah, I think so. Phil from Pennsylvania.
Cristina: Well, his name is like two Peas, so it would be PPP Why is.
Jack: His name two Peas?
Cristina: Because it's the town he's from.
Jack: Starts with a P. No f****** way.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Really?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Isn't Philadelphia the town he's in?
Cristina: No, that's not really the town he's in. It's another town that starts with a P. Really? Yeah.
Jack: That's a fact.
Cristina: Yes. It's a really complicated word, though.
Jack: Okay. Like Poughkeepsie.
Cristina: Poughkeepsie. What is a Poughkeepsie?
Jack: It's a town.
Cristina: What town? Where is it?
Jack: I don't know where it is.
Cristina: Why do you know it's.
Jack: The name of the town is Poughkeepsie. And I don't know why I know things. I don't know the answers to stuff, but. Yeah. So today's show is brought to you by the letter H and the letter P. P. And you put them together and it equals gaining Life.
Cristina: Gaining. His name is Punksu. To.
Jack: Phil.
Cristina: Yes, Phil. I said Phil. Right. And that P word is in Pennsylvania. So you see, it was pretty on it.
Jack: Yeah, I guess so. It is in Pennsylvania.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he's from. Yeah, it's. His name is PP from pp.
Cristina: He's PP from pp?
Jack: Yeah, he's PP from pp. This is a very adult, mature content show. We are only.
Cristina: That's why we're not laughing.
Jack: We're only. Yeah. Because there's nothing funny about Peepee from pp.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Them be the facts.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Facts aren't meant to be funny.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: They're just objective truths.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we gotta go there and hunt God.
Cristina: Yes. How are we gonna go there? I mean, it's not even that far, is it?
Jack: No, that's incredibly close.
Cristina: Why haven't we found him yet?
Jack: Because it's a large area.
Cristina: Are you sure? What if that town is very tiny? I don't know.
Jack: Pennsylvilladelphia?
Cristina: No. Punxus. Whatever. The P word. That. He's from the town.
Jack: Oh, s***. He's named after the town.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Punxutaway.
Cristina: Let's just say he's from Pun. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, whatever. It doesn't matter where he's from. We're gonna go there and we're gonna. Cat.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It is what it is, man.
Cristina: Did you murder that thing? No, we're just watching and waiting.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
Cristina: What if he becomes you?
Jack: I highly doubt that. You, like, eat a piece of me?
Cristina: No. But he bit you.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: That would be enough to turn you into beaver.
Jack: Groundhog.
Cristina: Groundhog. What if he turned into a groundhog?
Jack: He wasn't radioactive or anything.
Cristina: How do you know? Did you check if he was before you did it?
Jack: He wasn't normal.
Cristina: Did you check, though, before?
Jack: Yes, that was the point. We couldn't have an already modified groundhog and give it adrenochrome.
Cristina: Well, I thought you just got a random groundhog and maybe forgot to check it.
Jack: No, we are professionals.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: Yeah, it was just a groundhog.
Cristina: So what powers would you want from a groundhog, though? You don't want to turn into one, I guess.
Jack: But what power does a groundhog have? Didn't we go through this once where you talked about the powers of a groundhog or some?
Cristina: I think so. I talked about other. Other animals.
Jack: Really? I don't know. It could dig.
Cristina: Well, it could dig. So you're gonna. That's the power you want?
Jack: Just dig underground?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Unrealistically fast. They don't even dig really fast. Like it isn't astounding.
Cristina: It's probably equal to you digging.
Jack: Yeah. It's not crazy, you know?
Cristina: Yeah. Do they at least have good vision in the dark?
Jack: Probably not.
Cristina: Probably. Oh.
Jack: They don't need to see too much when they're in a hole in the dark. There's no light in there.
Cristina: Shouldn't they be seeing? Well, no, they're not like moles or something.
Jack: In order to have night vision like other animals, do you usually have a little bit of light? It's the ability to see in low light.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Isn't light coming into your eyes? You can't see Like a cat in straight up darkness is still blind. So in a hole like that, it doesn't matter.
Cristina: Okay. And it can't develop those other powers that the moles have, like being able.
Jack: To feel where everything is. Yeah, I guess it could, but the mole did that already, so.
Cristina: But you wouldn't want that power.
Jack: Well, I wouldn't get that from a groundhog, no. Yeah. Groundhog doesn't give us that kind of stuff.
Cristina: What if you were furry as one?
Jack: That sucks. I just described.
Cristina: No, you don't want to be. You're not going to be a giant groundhog. You're still human.
Jack: No, I don't want to be furry at all. That sucks.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I want to look like a groundhog in any manner, shape or form. Not even fur wise.
Cristina: I wonder what powers they have. They have to have something that makes them special besides predicting the future.
Jack: I don't care. That groundhog. What have you been up to?
Cristina: What have I been up to?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Hiding from Mark Zuckerberg.
Jack: Mark Zuckerfucker? Why?
Cristina: His commercial scares me.
Jack: The Metaverse commercial?
Cristina: He's so not human.
Jack: What's not human about him?
Cristina: Just him talking. It's just. It does feel like he's pretending to be Data from Star Trek. It's so crazy that he's just trying to be normal and it's not coming off as normal.
Jack: Well, he's a weird guy.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like he has little option to what he can do to fix that. Like he is who he is.
Cristina: Like he's trying to play around with what we. How we see him. But it's really hard not to see him as how we see him.
Jack: Yeah, like his joke. Oh, I thought I was the robot.
Cristina: Yes, like that. It doesn't help.
Jack: Well, it get. It shows us that he gets what's happening. Like he understands that we believe that.
Cristina: Yes, but it didn't help. I don't know, it convinced me more that he's a robot.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Cuz it's something. I don't know. Maybe it's that weird. He's Data. He's a robot. He's whatever Data is. What is Data? He's a robot. Completely. He's something else.
Jack: He's a fool.
Cristina: Yeah, he's a robot.
Jack: Yeah, he's an Android. His robot made to simulate a person.
Cristina: I think Mark is that. I think Mark is an Android.
Jack: And who made him?
Cristina: Elon Musk.
Jack: That'd be an interesting. And like, I wouldn't put it past him, you know?
Cristina: Yes. He didn't probably plan on him making Facebook or any of that. He just made a robot just to see what would happen. And then that robot did all this other stuff that Elon wasn't predicting at all. He just made the robot for fun.
Jack: Or maybe he did plan on him making Facebook.
Jack: Maybe he's pulling all the strings.
Cristina: Why would he care about Facebook?
Jack: He has everybody's information.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Why are all his companies so successful?
Cristina: Because of Facebook. No.
Jack: Elon Musk. Yeah, he knows what people want.
Cristina: Oh. Because he knows what people want and.
Jack: He builds an entire company around the concept of what people want.
Cristina: But he hangs out on Twitter and on Facebook.
Jack: Unless he does, he doesn't need to hang out on Facebook because Zucker F***** does. He not only the Creator of Facebook. But he exists inside Facebook, reading all the data and then he just reports back to Elon Musk and gives him all the data he's discovered.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: In summarized versions that provide the most efficient knowledge.
Cristina: What kind of information does he need?
Jack: Well, what are people talking about these days? What's the most talked about?
Cristina: Conspiracies? I don't know.
Jack: And he solves them. He probably the guy who tells Trump what to do. When we were talking about the guy on top who tells everybody else what to do. It's probably Elon Musk. He's probably the boss of the queen and everything. He's the guy on top. If we just follow every line to the top. Elon Musk is at the top of every line.
Cristina: That's a little hard to imagine. Well, okay.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Because. Over the queen.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: How did he do it?
Jack: Science.
Cristina: Science got him there. Whoa.
Jack: The power of science got Elon Musk on top. Yeah. I think that's definitely what's going on. Used the power of science in a virtual world.
Cristina: What is your avatar gonna look like?
Jack: What? In the metaverse? In the Facebook metaverse.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: You can make it look like yourself, which is a weird choice to go with.
Jack: You could exist in a fictional world and you're just gonna make you.
Cristina: Yeah, because one of the people in that commercial just was themselves.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Like a hologram version of themselves.
Jack: Yeah. Is that what he really believes is going to happen?
Cristina: That people are going to do that? You know what? I'm going to be right.
Jack: What are you going to be?
Cristina: The little round knuckles running around Uganda Knuckles. Yeah.
Jack: Oh, my God. I know that's going to happen. Isn't. Wait, isn't that a metaverse? What the f*** was that?
Cristina: Yeah, that is. I don't know. What's it called, what game that is or where that's.
Jack: Yeah, they invaded that s*** hard.
Cristina: And it's going to go in Facebook.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uganda Knuckles will live again.
Cristina: Yeah, but what would your character look like?
Jack: Probably Uganda Knuckles as well.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: I joined that movement immediately.
Cristina: Yes. Gotta make it happen.
Jack: Yeah. It'll be amazing. Can you imagine another army of Uganda knuckles just trolling until that avatar gets banned again?
Cristina: Yes. You gotta. Well, what does he do? Stalk girls and say something? I forgot what he says.
Jack: He shows you the way.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. He shows you the way.
Jack: Shows you the way. Brada.
Cristina: Yes. Can't wait.
Jack: You do not know the way.
Cristina: Yes. That man. I wonder what else. I don't know.
Jack: That was a good brief Moment in history. Yeah, it was great.
Cristina: And I guess you gotta make a character, like, I don't know, a video game character that you, like, you could just put in. I wonder.
Jack: No, I'm gonna just be some chick.
Cristina: I'm just gonna be some chick.
Jack: Yeah, I'm a troll. Guys get free. So you do you dress up like a chicken? Nerds. Wanna. You or your avatar.
Cristina: Your avatar?
Jack: Yeah, I do it all the time, man. I play chicks and games.
Cristina: And they give you stuff.
Jack: Yeah, they just want to f*** my avatar.
Cristina: Oh, do you let them f*** your avatar? No, no. Okay.
Jack: I flirt with them, though, you know, in game. Flirting, winks and highs. And I follow them around. They're like, oh, yeah, I got a video game girl.
Cristina: Then you murder them.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that kind of often.
Cristina: You're serial killer.
Jack: I kind of am, dude.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, let's be real. Let's be real. Totally out of character right now. Just me, the real clone, and, like, worker for the Illuminati. None of this other s*** I pretend to be, Right? This is who I really, truly, honestly am.
Cristina: You, Jack the River.
Jack: I kind of murder a lot. Let's look at my track record, right? Video games. Just going through video games before we get to the bigger picture. I consistently. But I'm not like. Like, let's think of like Grand Theft Auto, right? I don't go around just casually murdering people.
Cristina: No, you do. On the Red Dead.
Jack: Well, the problem is I'll go and I'll randomly, in gta, go into a bunk after the lobby has pacified and there's no chaos happening. And what will I do? I'll get an armored truck that nobody could blow up. Oh, I'll go outside and just start f****** people up with that truck, sending the entire lobby into a frenzy of murdering one another.
Cristina: Why would you.
Jack: And then I'll stop murdering people.
Cristina: Poor kid.
Jack: I don't know. Because I can.
Cristina: Because you can.
Jack: In Red Dead, I passively go wave at somebody. Go chill with them, follow them around.
Cristina: They think, oh, yeah, Pretend to be their buddy.
Jack: Yeah, we're gonna go do things together. And then when they least expect it, I blow their f****** brains out.
Cristina: And then run away.
Jack: And then run away. Then they can't find me.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And I make sure they know I'm still in the world. But I quick travel somewhere they can't find me. And then I leave the nearest town, and then they can't find me. If they're traveling from down to town, they gotta find me in the middle of West Bubba F*** killer.
Cristina: I guess that's not a serial killer because you're not hunting specific people or anything.
Jack: No, I'm just a mass murderer.
Cristina: Mass murderer? Yeah, that's the right word.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: If we talk about the real world, though, what you did with the cockroach people is mass murder.
Jack: Yeah. It's genocide.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's a lot. A lot of life. I killed a lot of Reptilians, but there's a lot alive resistant slaves. Like, a lot of them.
Cristina: Yeah. Not as bad as what we did with the cockroach Fuel.
Jack: No, nothing. Nothing beats that. That was way early, before we understood what we were dealing with. Before s*** got weird and there was a bunch of other s*** happening. But, yeah, we. We f***** that up. I did end up marrying one of the survivors, huh?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: My wife is a giant cockroach.
Cristina: Mm. Does she scare? Is she afraid of you? I don't understand. How did it happen?
Jack: She understands.
Cristina: She understands that she.
Jack: But it was Amy.
Cristina: It wasn't this you. It was before you became you.
Jack: I don't. I don't know what the canon of this show is. I don't know the lore. So, like, somebody needs to explain this to me. Am I the one who's the same killer? Is anybody listening? Who, like, kept track of this? Because I don't know. And I'm not going to go back and find out. Like, go listen to everything and tell me, am I the same guy who destroyed that planet, destroyed Mars with cockroaches on it? Or was it like a previous clone? Or, like, what the f***? I don't know.
Cristina: And which version of you did the time machine and which version of me? Because I don't think it was the one before the real you. I don't think it was that you, but I don't think it's this you either. I think there's just another you out there.
Jack: That's the thing.
Cristina: Unrelated, I think there's two.
Jack: I think there's two mews.
Cristina: Besides the one that was kill trying to kill you. Besides that you that's might still also be out there.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. He killed Jermaine. There might be three of us.
Cristina: Exactly. There's three of yous out here.
Jack: See, this is why we need somebody who listens to this show religiously to, like, build. Build this narrative so we can see and, like, tell me, I want to know. Which are you, which am I?
Cristina: Which you is you.
Jack: I know I'm number three, you're for.
Cristina: Sure the one that married the roach.
Jack: For sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Because I've been here a while. I've been here for, like, three seasons maybe.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, season two had, like, two different clones.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yeah. All that happened in, like, season two.
Cristina: Okay. With the time machine and the murdering your friend.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Like, a huge part of the lore happened in season two.
Cristina: And that's why we have no idea.
Jack: And that's why you have no idea. A bunch of that s*** happened all together. Because before then, it was just a show.
Cristina: Yes, it was. Normal podcast.
Jack: Was a normal podcast back in the old days when we had Reaper here and we were all just a bunch of people before the Illuminati recruited us because of how informative we were. And then we got recruited and then we got told the secrets and then.
Cristina: We spoiled it, and then we died.
Jack: Well, we didn't necessarily, but you know us. And then the originals started talking s*** because they didn't know better. They got put down and boom, the clones showed up. But through several different things that happened, here we are.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Many clones on the line. Third clone each.
Cristina: We're the third clone.
Jack: We're the third clone. Yeah.
Cristina: What happened to our second clone?
Jack: I don't remember.
Cristina: Are you positive?
Jack: I am positive. We're number three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: I just remember Dave dying with Dave.
Jack: Well, here's the thing. I know the one with the time machine wasn't the original.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The episode with Dave is where the first got killed because we were talking s*** about the Illuminati.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He died that day too.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We all got replaced.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: But what happened?
Jack: Well, that was the first. Then we had the clone that came to kill, so we had a different clone, I guess, for a future clone that came to kill the past clone he was meant to replace, I guess. But he was retarded because he was clone of clone.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he was already the second clone. So he couldn't tell the difference between Jemaine and myself. Although we don't look anything alike. And, like, for whatever reason, my clone at that point had one robot arm.
Cristina: Yes, he has a robot arm and.
Jack: A robot leg and an eyepatch or some s*** like that. Yeah, pirate looking.
Cristina: Yes, he looked like you, except he was missing parts.
Jack: Yeah. Something went terribly wrong. And he wasn't the brightest either.
Cristina: No.
Jack: And he was the second one who came to kill the previous. We'd still not use the time machine yet for the cat people.
Cristina: Are you positive? Because that was super random too.
Jack: D***. I don't know.
Cristina: I don't know which came first. And even though, like, no matter what the order is, when do we die?
Jack: That's the biggest f****** problem, right? Because I know we're number three. I don't remember how we got here.
Cristina: When did we die again? Are you sure?
Jack: I am positive. We've been the third clone for a while.
Cristina: Are you sure you're not the second?
Jack: No, I'm positive. We're not the second. We're the third.
Cristina: I don't remember that. Are you sure?
Jack: I can keep repeating that?
Cristina: Yes, I'm sure. You don't know what season?
Jack: No. Everything happened between season two.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And three.
Cristina: All of it only died twice.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay. I just don't remember my second death.
Jack: I mean, of course you wouldn't. That. That's. That holds up. That's exactly what would happen, isn't it?
Cristina: But I would remember. No, I think you would remember because you're getting the memories of your last.
Jack: Yeah, but you no aren't cloned after dying.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like then take your DNA from the dead body.
Cristina: I guess not. I don't remember. Okay.
Jack: I remember specifically me. This version of me stopping the me who was sending people to the future or some s*** like that.
Cristina: You stop that person.
Jack: You remember that one version of me stopped that clone. That clone came after the situation where the Eyepatch wearing one armed clone killed Jimin.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And thus trapped the soul inside the system.
Cristina: But that just means there was multiple you at the same time. Doesn't mean that you are a second or third or a fourth. Well, because you'd have all happened at once.
Jack: Yeah, fair enough. We don't know what order we were made. And I'm saying that in the order of which they got introduced. I'm the third introduced. I'm the last to be introduced to the lore of this show.
Cristina: Okay, but the one that was going to kill you but ended up killing Jermaine, that was still you, wasn't it?
Jack: Yes, that was a retarded me.
Cristina: No, the you that was on that show that he was trying to kill.
Jack: Oh, yes, I was also.
Cristina: That was the second me that was not you.
Jack: You, though that was not Mimi, or that might have been Mimi.
Cristina: Don't.
Jack: Because the other me is the one who was running the time machine.
Cristina: The same one that was with him talking to him is the one that was running the time machine.
Jack: No, the one that was on the show with the one who is trying to kill him. Those are the same ones. And then Jermaine. But neither one of them is the one who was running the time machine.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's three total different. Yeah. Now, my intern, My understanding is we stopped the one creating the problem with the time machine.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Right. Because he was all jolly and happy about, you know, destroying s***.
Cristina: Well, he was trying to save the world and I didn't understand it. It was me trying to stop him because I wanted cat people and I didn't understand his goal of stopping the cat people.
Jack: S***. You know what? I might be the one.
Cristina: You might be the one?
Jack: I might be the one.
Cristina: Which one?
Jack: No, I'm not the third. I'm the second.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: No, I'm the. I'm the first clone. No, the first clone died for sure. The first one of the. Because the original died and then the first clone died for both of us. Factually, that happened. Then we have. F***, there's like five of me, dude.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh. We can't even remember when the second clone died.
Jack: No, I know the first clone. I guess I don't remember when the first clone died. I know that both my first clone and your first clone died. And our original originals died. So that's already two people dead for each of us.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Then there's the retarded clone.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: With the eye patch in one arm.
Cristina: You.
Jack: That's me. Yeah. And then there is me, the either the one he was trying to kill or the one who was running the time machine. And whichever one of those I'm not is the third. Which is five total me's.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: If we just remove the original. That's four clones.
Cristina: That's four clones. Except I don't remember a first clone dying.
Jack: D***. I don't want to listen to all that all over again.
Cristina: That's too much work.
Jack: That's a lot. That's a lot.
Cristina: We should make up a reason. Why did our clones die then?
Jack: I don't know. There's definitely a reason, though. Somebody's gonna tell us. Somebody will.
Cristina: Look, the Spaghetti Monster killed us.
Jack: I think they started talking s*** about f****** Illuminati 2 by accident. Yeah. Yeah, I think it happened by accident.
Cristina: Oh, was it with a guest?
Jack: Might have been. But then the only guess where these bullshits happen are when Jermaine's on the show, when Dave is on the show, or when Ish is on the show. And with Ish, we went on other weird adventures.
Cristina: You started the cockroach war with Ish. Yes, yes, I was also in disagreement with that plan.
Jack: But it happened.
Cristina: But it happened.
Jack: Yes, it is what it is. See, Ish is ride or die. He's on board with cockroaches below the planet Insane.
Cristina: We were gonna lose and then we.
Jack: Had a hack off.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that was amazing. And he hacked a robot.
Cristina: That was amazing.
Jack: Yeah, man. Ish is fun. We need him back.
Cristina: Yes. We need to do some kind of weird adventure with him.
Jack: Yeah, I like adventures with Ish. He's exciting.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We never. He's the wild card.
Cristina: He's the wild. Exactly.
Jack: Every group needs a wild card.
Cristina: He's Charlie. Does that make you Dennis?
Jack: I think I'm Dennis in most cases. No matter who else is who else.
Cristina: He's Charlie.
Jack: I'm pretty Dennis. Would that be interesting? I'd like to come up with something after watching Dan. What is Dan Snaps or some. Dan put some s*** on YouTube where he brings on. It's like a podcast. And he brings on the homies.
Cristina: He brings on homies. Okay.
Jack: They do like weird experiments. And I'm like, that's a cool concept. I'd like to try that out.
Cristina: Yes, we gotta do that here.
Jack: Yeah, man. If I can get Dave Ish Reaper, you, me, I'll be Dungeon Master.
Cristina: But how we get so many people on the phone, or is it through the computer?
Jack: Yeah, we can like Skype them in or some.
Cristina: Yeah, we should do that.
Jack: Yeah. And have multiple people and then we can run cool experiments and.
Cristina: Awesome.
Jack: That'd be dope. If we can get that set up.
Cristina: Yes. We'll have a mystery. Guess. No, I don't know. Yes.
Jack: I don't know if people knew who they were.
Cristina: Nah, they'll be surprised. It's gonna be the Axeman.
Jack: The Axeman?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Who's the Axeman?
Cristina: The guy who scared some kids in the woods.
Jack: Oh, you mean the Woodsman.
Cristina: Yeah, the Woodsman.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: He's the surprise guest.
Jack: Can you imagine? We find a legit woodsman.
Cristina: That'd be cool. Now we gotta find the Woodsman.
Jack: That'd be the. Because every episode has been one to one. This would be like the creation of an entirely different show.
Cristina: What? I guess. No, it could still be ramblings.
Jack: No, no, because rambling is me and you.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: And this conversation is me and a guest.
Cristina: Yes. And this is a party.
Jack: And this is a party. This will be a whole other f****** thing.
Cristina: Yeah. So fun.
Jack: And if it works out, who knows? Maybe we'll do it again. Maybe we can figure out a schedule to get people regularly in.
Cristina: Yes. Awesome.
Jack: Yeah. Be badass.
Cristina: There will be a Woodsman.
Jack: There will be Woodsman. I mean, eventually, look, that show blows up, we get Millions and billions and trillions. And then Joe Rogan begs us to be on the show because it needs the exposure because we're making so much money. And Spotify fired him and hired us instead.
Jack: And, like, they took his hundred million dollars away and gave it to us. It's yours now.
Cristina: I don't think they can do that.
Jack: But okay, it doesn't matter, because now that's what happened.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Gave us his hundred million. And that's awesome. And then he begs. He's like, I need the money. I gotta eat. Can you. Can I be on your show and exposure? And then my stand up will do better than my podcast will do better. And we're like, you want us to share our billion listeners, the most heard podcast in the galaxy?
Cristina: In the galaxy with you?
Jack: Yeah. The Colloquians are, like, hearing us all the time.
Cristina: Who?
Jack: Yeah, exactly. Them. And they're hearing us all.
Cristina: Can you say that word again?
Jack: I don't know what I said, but that alien race is actively listening. What was it? The collar?
Cristina: Something like that.
Jack: There are.
Cristina: Is that what the cockroach people are called?
Jack: No.
Cristina: Did you find out what they're called?
Jack: I don't know what they're called. I just called them cockroach people.
Cristina: Okay. Because if they're. Whatever you just said, then we have to know that that's what they're called and say it. And that sounds really hard because.
Jack: Yeah, because there's two letters there that don't go together, so it's really hard to announce. It's like a whole other language. Caligreans.
Cristina: It's horrible. Yes. They're not called out. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, yeah.
Cristina: That's what the cat people are called.
Jack: But that's some. It could be. Maybe the cat peoples are Caligreans.
Cristina: We need simpler names.
Jack: I mean, cat people in Cockroach, you were pretty simple.
Cristina: But it's not real names.
Jack: I mean, it's identifying labels that we understand. I guess it's like a stereotype. It works.
Cristina: Yeah. All right, so the show with Joe Rogan, we're gonna give him an episode.
Jack: We're gonna allow him to be one of the guests that we run experiments through. But eventually the show is gonna get so big that it's no longer gonna be experiments, and we're really gonna put them in the scenarios we're talking about. It's gonna start in front of a mic.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Just like it started when we first started. Just conversation.
Cristina: Become that show that he used. Factor. Yes. We're just. We're gonna remake Fear Factor. And he's gonna be the guest. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
Jack: That's gonna be great. It's gonna happen by accident. That's how this show happened.
Cristina: Right.
Jack: So we began it was just us hanging out. Then we got hired.
Cristina: Then we got hired. Oh, yeah.
Jack: Then we went on crazy adventures. Do crazy. Now we're gonna make a game show. We're gonna have them be on it. And it's just gonna be some fun questions. Fun.
Cristina: And then we're gonna take Joe Rogan and whatever spa.
Jack: And then we're gonna get so popular, we're gonna take Joe Rogan's spot. And then eventually we're gonna build an entire arena. Beast. What is it? The beast arena thing with the beast arena? The f****** parkour, like, ninja warrior.
Cristina: Oh, American Beast master.
Jack: Beast Master. It's gonna be like a giant Beastmaster size arena.
Cristina: What is it gonna be on Zombie island or.
Jack: Zombie Island? Yes. Ooh. Just keep filling that up.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Beast master size arena. And then we're gonna have all our scenarios really existing on there, and they're gonna have to go through them.
Cristina: Like hacking a robot.
Jack: Yeah. Oh. We could base everything on things that happened here. Oh, my God. You just gave us how we're gonna do the questions for the show. We can just go back to previous events that happened and see what everybody would do in my shoes.
Cristina: Okay, so, like, what would they do with the cockroach people?
Jack: Would they do the cockroach people?
Cristina: Probably not. Start a war. I wonder if everyone's like, no, just start a war.
Jack: We didn't try to start a war.
Cristina: You wanted to just murder them?
Jack: Yes, we freaked out. Murdered a couple of them. Then they started flying towards us and we were like, we gotta stop them. And then we destroyed their whole planet. But then that f***** up the whole system's gravitational pull and Planet X started plunging straight towards Earth. So we went ahead and we stole Mars from Universe 2, put that there.
Cristina: Then what happened to Planet X? Because it was already plunging towards us. Did it just stop?
Jack: Yes, it's just out there.
Cristina: Closer though.
Jack: It's closer, but whatever. It's where it's orbiting, just closer to the end.
Cristina: It's. Is it near Pluto? Is it somewhere we can see it? Is it like now Planet six or whatever? Like, it took that spot or whatever.
Jack: Yeah, it's probably between two other planets. Yeah, it was outside, now it's in the middle. For whatever reason, it didn't just keep plunging in. It's just like, oh, there's a planet. Okay, now I'm back In orbit, circling.
Cristina: The sun like all the other.
Jack: Which is weird that we took out one planet and it immediately stopped orbiting and just started going straight towards Earth. And then we put Mars back and it immediately stopped going towards Earth and then just went back to orbiting wherever it was.
Cristina: I think that planet's an alien.
Jack: That might be a giant. That might be the Death Star.
Cristina: Oh, crap. Why was it coming towards us? Why did it stop?
Jack: Cockroach people were protecting us this whole time. They are like the Vulcan. We got the Vulcans out of the way and then they were like, we're gonna f*** them up. But then we put it back and they don't know that the characters.
Cristina: Okay, interesting. We should go onto planet X though.
Jack: AKA the Death Star.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: But like we call it a Death Star because it's just a giant spaceship. That's artificial planet thing. But like, obviously we're not gonna get there and f****** Darth Vader is gonna be on board. So who's on board the real Death Star? Is it gonna turn out to be like the Borg?
Cristina: Is it gonna be the Borg? No, I think it's gonna be something that's afraid of cockroaches. Like they're gonna be elephants.
Jack: Interesting. But elephants aren't scared of cockroaches.
Cristina: I know, but they're mice. Yeah. They're afraid of small things. I don't know.
Jack: Interesting, Interesting. I wonder what it'll be.
Cristina: It's a mouse.
Jack: A mouse wouldn't be scared of a cockroach. Mouse would wreck a cockroach.
Cristina: Oh, there's nothing afraid of cockroaches.
Jack: I'm sure there is. The answer is rabbits.
Cristina: Yes. Why do you call them cockroaches?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: They're called. It's spelled c***. Roach.
Jack: Yeah, it's spelled cockroach.
Cristina: But you're not saying cockroach, are you?
Jack: I never say cockroach.
Cristina: What do you say?
Jack: I say cockroach.
Cristina: It's so, so similar. I guess it doesn't really matter, but rabbits.
Jack: Rabbits on the Death Star.
Cristina: I think we could take them on if they do decide to attack us. If they don't find out. If they do find out, the roaches are gone. Okay, subhumans versus rabbits.
Jack: Alright, let's. Let's be real. It looks like aliens aren't really a thing. Minus the weird anomalies that we've seen, like the Chupacabra and things like that.
Cristina: Those aren't aliens. Those are also animals.
Jack: Not the interdimensional godlike ones that show up looking for ADRENOCHROME and s***.
Cristina: They were once upon a time, an animal.
Jack: Could be. We didn't establish that actually, but yeah. Like the shapeless one.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: But yeah, probably. If we follow the logic. It was probably some s***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It seems like the whole planet and the whole star system and the whole galaxy are just animals.
Cristina: With adrenochrome.
Jack: Just animals. It looks like adrenochrome kind of runs the universe. Question is, are the rabbits also on adrenochrome?
Cristina: For sure.
Jack: You think the cat people are on adrenochrome? They're ancient, bro.
Cristina: I think that's what we'll find.
Jack: You think we're just gonna find that?
Cristina: They probably gave us adrenochrome, dude.
Jack: You think everything comes back to adrenochrome?
Cristina: Yes. The whole history of everything.
Jack: Because God started with adrenal, Started with the goal to get more adrenochrome.
Cristina: Exactly. It makes sense.
Jack: Back to the beginning, dude. All the way at the start.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yeah. Like the Chupacabra. That doesn't. That's dimensional and giving us powers and whatever. It had to be something normal before adrenochrome came to its life.
Jack: Because it was working with adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: How did it exist before it found us? You know, it needed adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So chances are it got the adrenochrome first and then slowly changed to what it is.
Cristina: Yeah. And that weird other world. I forgot what it was called.
Jack: Universe 2.
Cristina: Is it universal where all the fairies and creatures live?
Jack: Oh, the. The Shadow Realm.
Cristina: The Shadow Realm. Those are just creatures with adrenochrome. Once you have adrenochrome, you can enter the Shadow Realm.
Jack: Yeah, but there's things that live there.
Cristina: Purely because they already had the. Yeah. They don't know.
Jack: Are things that are just born on that side that never came in contact with anything on this side. Those are. Okay, so we gotta ignore everything on this side. Those are more interesting. Everything over here works off of adrenochrome. Everything. The only place we've seen where that is. The exception is over there. Is that other realm. Interesting.
Cristina: But many things over there have taken adrenochrome. Yes, but you're saying not all of them.
Jack: Not all of them. There are things that are native to that side. Things over here take adrenochrome and move in that direction. That's also to assume we're not going to find God over here.
Cristina: Think we're going to find him over there.
Jack: We got to go to the shadow realm to find God.
Cristina: Or we can just wait for February 2nd, where he will show up in Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania.
Jack: What is it that happens? Right. What is it that happens when to bring something to this side, you need a lot of fear or a lot of death. And then something from the shadow realm becomes. The more of that there is, the more prominent it is on this side. Because they need that energy to manifest from the other side.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: God should, in theory, be on the other side. When does God most likely show and when are miracles most likely to happen? In times of extreme, extreme tragedy.
Jack: That's because God is on the other side. And during that February 2nd.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What's happening is the fear of farmers hearing bad news and all their crops being is enough to manifest.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Jehovah.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The worry, the fear, the scared of. I'm not gonna. This is gonna be bad news. That allows him to get grasp form. That's why they have to wait.
Cristina: Yeah. So people collect first.
Jack: Yeah, I guess. But the question is, will he stay on this side? We need to catch his physical form on the other side.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Because we can catch him here and then he'll just stay here.
Cristina: Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah, we do have to. But I was thinking about the creatures. You said that they are always there.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And never here. But I'm wondering if even though they might have. You know how I have to go back to us as humans. We might have been some creature before adrenochrome came to our ancestors. And then somehow we came to be. And what if that's their story? Like they might not have come here for adrenochrome, but maybe someone in their past.
Jack: So your argument is there's nothing native.
Cristina: No.
Jack: The Shadow Realm minus Adrenochrome is empty.
Cristina: Yes. Like, those are just babies of things that came here, came back over there, and then they're just stuck there because they're. They don't need it. Like their ancestor. Like we don't need it.
Jack: Problematic things like angels. And are we to assume angels are just also people who changed differently? Maybe the Neanderthals who took the f****** thing and then evolved to be these f****** things? What do we say about, like, reapers that are native to that realm?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Were they some other s*** on this side took it, went to that side and figured out they don't need it anymore? Are angels feral? Are reapers feral? Like, I don't know.
Cristina: It's complicated. I don't know.
Jack: So the problem is we didn't really investigate much into the Shadow Realm. We Got the surface data.
Cristina: So yeah, do more research.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Before we get in there, deep dive.
Jack: Into the Shadow Realm.
Cristina: Maybe we can go through Yu Gi oh to find out Yu Gi oh.
Jack: Has the, the, the cards that are sent that'll send our souls there or whatever the f***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: How the f*** does that work?
Cristina: I don't know. The Shadow Realm is connected somehow to.
Jack: Yu Gi oh, bro.
Cristina: To Yu Gi oh.
Jack: Duel monsters.
Cristina: Yes. Are probably a lot like the monsters you would find in the shroud.
Jack: You tell me. I could find the blue eyes white dragon and a red eyes black dragon.
Cristina: You could find an angel maybe.
Jack: I mean maybe. Right. Like f*** it, like what's. Fair enough, fair enough. I mean every other bullshit that anybody's ever thought of turned out real. So like whatever. I guess there's probably a Red eyes black. That's badass. I could just catch. So that means like a pokeball is probably real.
Cristina: In the Shadow Realm.
Jack: In the Shadow Realm. We don't need to even invent one. We just need to find it. Yeah, maybe that's a lie. Maybe that was just a fantasy. But we can still invent it in theory and then go catch instead of. I mean it'd be cool to still have a wedge edge and a winningo, but like, I much rather have like a red eyes black dragon. That's hardcore. Or God, it's a stupid looking f****** groundhog. I don't really care much for God.
Cristina: But that'd be crazy. You throw a ball, he comes out, everyone's confused because it's just a groundhog.
Jack: But he has the power to destroy everything.
Cristina: Exactly. He just snaps his finger, they disappear.
Jack: And for whatever reason, the only power he doesn't have is the ability to defeat normal groundhog problems.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Including cages.
Cristina: Yes. So yeah, that sounds right.
Jack: Yeah. I think I'd rather have a Wendigo because could we build technology that could mind control God? He is still a demigod.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So like he's not impossible, but like.
Cristina: That'S why we need anything.
Jack: The huge problem here's problem, we need God to get to the cat people. The cat gods and their technology is then going to allow us to create tech to bring Wash God.
Cristina: Oh, it's.
Jack: We need one for the other no matter what.
Cristina: Yeah, okay. But we still have to understand their technology and whether it's actually technology or is it actual magic.
Jack: I mean, at this point it's probably just technology. It's completely possible. Adrenochrome got into the mix way long ago, created these hyper intelligent cat people. The Same way that later happened to us.
Cristina: And cockroach people.
Jack: Probably cockroach people. And apparently maybe just the theory, but the rabbit people inside the Death Star.
Cristina: Yes. I think this all. It checks out.
Jack: This checks out. Yeah. This is totally making sense. You know, all the pieces fall together.
Cristina: And so we gotta go into the.
Jack: Shadow Realm to get God. Interesting. Fascinating.
Cristina: Like, the person who's talking to Yu Gi. Oh, what is he? Is he an angel?
Jack: He is actually in the Shadow Realm, I think.
Cristina: Yeah, but what is he in the shadow Realm?
Jack: He's the spirit of a pharaoh.
Cristina: Dead people, man.
Jack: The Shadow Realm works a real way in that show, doesn't it? Yeah, he's the spirit of a guy who had, like, mystical powers.
Cristina: Ghosts can be in the shadow Realm?
Jack: Well, no. You're supposed to have taken adrenochrome so that when you die, you cross over to the shadow Realm. Oh.
Cristina: And he might have.
Jack: Okay, might have.
Cristina: We gotta go and check out that show then. Yes. I think that show will give us answers.
Jack: You think that show gives us answers? Yes, definitely. It would probably.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Tells us a lot. The fact that there was anybody in the shadow Realm and people were being sent to the shadow Realm and everybody had to participate in some sort of thing. A ritual of sorts.
Cristina: Exactly. You think they were drinking blood? I bet blood is involved.
Jack: I think blood is everything. Blood is life at this point.
Cristina: Yes. Yes. We're gonna find that out. We gotta rewatch Yu Gi. Oh, no, we don't. But we gotta research Yu Gi. Oh, for sure.
Jack: The weird thing is, which I don't understand. If Adrenochrome led apes to become humans. See, why does humans taking Adrenochrome not change us to something else?
Cristina: I thought they turned us into vampires or zombies.
Jack: It does. You're right.
Cristina: You got two results. I think zombies is if we stop taking it, and vampires if we continue taking it.
Jack: Interesting. Yeah, you're totally right. Which then brings up the next question. So we're a vampire. And we consume however much. So vampire is one of the milestones to becoming God.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So that there's no end. No, you'll continue to change.
Cristina: Yeah. Because that once you're a vampire, you have the ability to start transforming to other things.
Jack: I don't mean like shapeshift.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: I mean, like, how long does a vampire take Adrenochrome for before no longer a vampire.
Cristina: Oh, I don't know.
Jack: But. Because it looks like we can follow this line for everything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Well, so we get a werewolf. Well, we get a wolf becomes werewolf. Becomes a win thingo or wet judge.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know, like there's a line and.
Cristina: Then it becomes something else eventually.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There is in Shinto and what was the other? Not Native American spiritualism, but something similar to that where there are spirit beasts, giant animal, like God, like creatures that protect areas. That sounds like a God.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That came through a animal.
Cristina: You don't know what that's from. How are you gonna do research on that?
Jack: No, I don't know. I could. I'll look it up.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I know Shinto has a lot of that going on, spirit beasts and stuff like that. But I know that there's a specific belief system.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That has, like, giant spirit animals guarding, like, the woods or the lakes and like that.
Cristina: That does sound like Shinto, though.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay. Yes.
Jack: Find that research, because that sounds like something that took a lot of adrenochrome. Never died to cross over, but kept taking adrenochrome and maybe transcended into the next thing.
Cristina: Yes, that could be it. Yep. Yep.
Jack: Which means God is where everything lands Long enough.
Cristina: Yeah. As long as they don't die.
Jack: As long as they don't die. It's just hard to live really long without some factor or another killing you.
Cristina: Or maybe even killing yourself. I don't know.
Jack: Or running out of a supply of adrenochrome.
Cristina: Or that. Yeah.
Jack: And then that making you feral.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That sending you to madness.
Cristina: Yep. Yeah. There's so many different ways it can go.
Jack: Yeah. It's kind of crazy.
Cristina: Right. Then now we have two things we gotta check out.
Jack: Yeah. We gotta go look at the Shadow Realm and see if we can find Jehovah in his real home.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Should be some sort of similar looking, but oddly different location from his home over here when he does manifest.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: The Shadow Realm looks like a copy of over here.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: But also not simultaneously. So it should. We will know where to go look in Shadow Realm.
Cristina: Yes. That place.
Jack: And then finding out what belief system it is that has these beasts that seem to just be godlike versions of normal animals.
Cristina: Mm. And in Yu Gi. Oh. Wasn't there angels?
Jack: No.
Cristina: There wasn't a card where the person looked like an angel.
Jack: Oh. I mean, the cards are.
Cristina: Yeah, that's what I mean.
Jack: There was kind of everything. It was like a sentient clock.
Cristina: Oh, okay. That's like Pokemon.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I mean, all that s*** is weird. There's a bunch of. There's Dark Magician. Was he just a magician who crosses the Shadow Realm and now goes by dark?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You know, maybe. Man, are those cards based on f****** real things?
Cristina: Yes. We gotta check that out. That's part of the research that we gotta check out.
Jack: That's fair. I'm down.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Anyways, we're running out of time and. Yeah. So hopefully we can get those things done. Go into shadow realm, find Jehovah, throw a party. Throw a party?
Cristina: Yeah. With all the different people. What with Dave and Ish.
Jack: Oh, yeah. That's further down the line. Precedent is taken. By going to shadow Room, finding Jehovah and finding out what belief system was talking about, what seems to be animals have transcended through a dream to come all the way to God levels. Yes, that's useful.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Hopefully also my voice heals so that I can talk normal. And next time I'll just make a subhuman deal with the f****** groundhog or whatever other f****** creature, because that's annoying and I can't talk.
Cristina: Well, that'd be crazy.
Jack: If another groundhog bites you, that'd be crazy. It has to be radioactive and, like, give me some power.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Oh, man. I want to dig. Cool.
Cristina: You dig with your teeth.
Jack: That'd be dope. Although I don't think they do that, but yeah. No, I want to dig. Awesome. Or stop biting me. Groundhogs. And I want to be a God, which is why we got to get God to bite me or whatever. But he's gonna first bite subhumans because.
Cristina: Let'S see what that to people who.
Jack: Have the best immune system in the universe. Anyways, if you guys like this conversation, other conversations like this, you could find them anywhere. You know, we have a bunch of stuff like that talking about God as a groundhog, actually how we got to the conclusion that he was a groundhog and all this. And originally when we were talking about groundhogs and adrenochrome in the Shadow Realm. And the Shadow Realm and the creatures from within the shadow Realm, there's a little bit of everything. We. We're building the big picture now. Yes, that's what we're doing. We're bringing all the separate pieces now. We're building the puzzle. If you guys want to find all that stuff, you can find it on the official website greatthoughts.info or on Apple podcasts or Spotify or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok at discount Vopod.
Jack: Yes. And also remember to subscribe and rate and review the show if you feel so inclined.
Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it?
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is very important. And now you know that God is part of the shadow realm. Somebody might want to know that. Maybe you have some religious friends who are very in their religion, and you want them to know the truth. So you're gonna go every Sunday to their door, knock on the door and tell them, have you heard about Shadow Christ?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Do you want to let shadow Christ into your heart?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You can do that. All. All. All day, Every day.
Cristina: All day, Every day on Sunday.
Jack: All day, every day on Sunday. You knock on the door, be like, let shadow Christ into your heart.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they're gonna close the door because they think you're trolling, and you're gonna be like, this is what it feels like. Stop showing up in my f****** house every Sunday. Hit him right back. We're hurt.
Cristina: This has been the Just Conversation podcast. Take nothing personal, and thanks for listening. Bye.
Jack: The other day, I was thinking. I don't know what the made me think about this, but I was thinking about painting where the roadrunner. So it's the roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And Wile E. Coyote paints a replica of the mountains behind them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then he puts the painting in the way of the road so that the roadrunner slams into the painting that's painted on. No, it's a road.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: It's like a steel brick or a brick wall or something he made with the painting on it, thinking that thing is gonna run into the wall and knock itself out. But then it just runs up the road in the painting.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And then the coyote looks around at it, and he's like, what the f***? And then he tries to run into it and he just hits the brick.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I'm like. And I'm like, that's kind of meta, not just. Not meta. It's weird. It's. They were thinking about this sort of psychedelic psychology long before that was normal.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: It's like it's both reality and not.
Cristina: The roadrunner's reality isn't. What's it. The coyote's reality?
Jack: I mean, they share reality. I'm saying the. The distinction of the painting and the rest of the world. There's some sort of aspect there that's weird because he did run into the painting. And I'm like, what thought did the. Right. Did the creator have that the artist have when he came up with that? And how meta must you be thinking to imagine a drawing in which there's another drawing with a creature running into it from the first drawing. That's meta as f***.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's complicated. And that just makes it part of the story.
Cristina: That's very strange. He travels through. He's like a time traveler, in a way. Those things could be real places.
Jack: But here's the. Here's a point. Even if it's not, it's not. It could be a real place, but that itself is not. That's the coyote's rendering.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So that's not a location that exists anywhere but in the coyote's mind. So then the question is that the Roadrunner run into the coyote's mind? Well, not really. But like, this universe he made up became a real reality to the Roadrunner.
Cristina: Yes. Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister. With social media managed by Amber Black.