Rambling 221: Fast Family vs John Wick
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Is John Wick fast enough? Is the Fast Family clever enough to evade an undying will? Time travel? Continuing an off-mic discussion, the duo begin their movie directing careers. Their first project is a John Wick Fast and Furious crossover. Learn the entire plot to ‘2F v W’ as told by the directors.
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Topics Discussed:
- John Wick’s Dog
- Family
- How to Kill John Wick
- Time Travel
- Paradoxes
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. I am your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: And we were just talking about whatever the h*** is going on in Fast and Furious.
Cristina: Both Fast and Furious. And. And hoping that John Wick somehow Messes. Mixes in.
Jack: Somehow mixes in. Yes. But we're also breaking down who is just becoming part of the Dom Toretto's family, which includes a bunch of cops. A bunch of cops. Illegal. Like a bunch of different criminal. I don't even like, Special Ops people. At some point, what's happening, Right. Like, the government hires them and they, like, also get some of those people to join them.
Cristina: Yes. And then they steal from them and.
Jack: Yeah. Like, they're ultimately criminals or something.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like at the. Or are they like. I don't understand. The problem is we have. We have to watch these in, like, a straight line to really understand. Like, watch all of them back to.
Cristina: Back in chronological order.
Jack: There's a. There's a string crossing all of them. Like, you could follow progression. Whether it's grounded in base, in reality, I doubt that's occurring. But, like, I definitely think it's trackable. There's definitely a story there.
Cristina: Yes, we should do it. We should do it. Ah, yes. And then we talk about it.
Jack: Then we talk about it, man.
Cristina: But this I keep calling John Wick. John Wick movie. What would we call it? Fast. Wick.
Jack: Fast.
Cristina: Wick the Fast. Wick the Fast.
Jack: Wick the Fast. Wick the Fast and the Wick.
Cristina: The Fast and the wick. 20. You gotta put some number.
Jack: A number. No, it's like crossover. It's like Alien versus Predator.
Cristina: Okay, so no numbers. It would be very.
Jack: What would be the. Wait, what would be the name? Wick versus the Furious Wick, I guess. They are the Furious, aren't they? That's a team name.
Cristina: The Wick and the Furious.
Jack: Because the Furious are fast.
Cristina: Furious are fast.
Jack: The Furious are fast. So if we were to name this movie, it would be. If we were to say who versus Who.
Cristina: Well, some of them are just fast. Not Furious. Like, it's like the guy. I don't know, what's his name? The young dude that joins him.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: The cop that's not a cop anymore.
Jack: Which cop does not.
Cristina: A cop from the first movie.
Jack: Brian.
Cristina: Brian. He's just the fast. He's not the Furious.
Jack: Yeah. So yeah, that's what I'm thinking about right now. That I think the whole family is fast, and it's really the fast family.
Cristina: But they are some furious, I guess.
Jack: Yes, but they're not the Furious family.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They're the fast family. Although this. The Furious just immediately translate to them being aggressive and, like, handling their business or whatever that means all fast and they're all furious.
Cristina: Yes, I guess they are all fast and furious.
Jack: Yes, because that means they're all. Even if they're all choosing. Some of them are just straight up choosing to live peaceful, sedate lives.
Cristina: Some are more fast than the others. Some are more furious.
Jack: Yeah, but at the end of the.
Cristina: Day is so furious. Like, she's the furious one.
Jack: Yes, but at the end of the day, they're all fast and they're all furious. Even if some are more fast and some are more furious. Like, yes, there's a spectrum. But because of that, all of them are fast and all of them are furious to different degrees.
Cristina: We should just say Fast Furious. Wick. Fast Wick Furious.
Jack: Fast Wick Furious.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: No, because Wick can't be the fast one. That's not the key.
Cristina: He is definitely fast.
Jack: He is. But it's just.
Cristina: He's definitely furious. The Fast Furious Wick.
Jack: No, that's still just talking about him. That's not mentioning them. It has to say Wick. It's. And it needs verses because it's one versus It's a crossover Alien versus Predator.
Cristina: You know, the Furious versus Wick. The Fast versus Wick. Because you don't need both words sometimes.
Jack: They don't use fvw. It's a shortcut. It's a shortcut. That sucks, though. I know. It would have to be like fast versus Wick. But it doesn't make sense.
Cristina: Let's make it complicated and just put two F VW. Because this Fast and Furious are two Fs.
Jack: Two FVW. Interesting. Random. It is, but it isn't.
Cristina: But yes, I like that.
Jack: That's pretty badass. I dig it.
Cristina: So then they fight him because they killed his dog while racing away from some money, some bank they just robbed.
Jack: Is it like the odds of somebody just again killing his dog and that being the next launching point? Unless isn't the first time. Like, if we get Beautiful. Beautiful. Like if we get a prequel of John Wick to see how he began his career as the greatest killer ever, back when he was the wackiest killer ever, before he discovered the best ways to do it or whatever.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Was it because they killed his dog and he wanted to get revenge. Originally.
Cristina: I don't know. Because I was hoping that this dog was the trained dog that knows how to use a gun.
Jack: Right, because they're gonna give his dog a gun.
Cristina: Yes, they're gonna. He's gonna give his dog a gun and he's gonna learn how to shoot. And maybe the dog was trying to stop them from robbing the bank because that's his new job. Because the dog wants to have a job to shoot people. I don't know. The dog is a guard to the bank. So the idea is to have a gun.
Jack: Why doesn't John Wick just get shot? Like he. Finally. And it's the la. Like B roll death ever. He's just John Wick. He's just chasing. He's doing his awesome John Wick stuff and he dies. Some random, other unseen, unrelated, like stray bullet from a gang fight somewhere else hit some clean through the head and John Wick dies. But the dog was there to see it happen.
Cristina: Oh, wait. So the star is the dog. He's gonna join the Fast and Furious.
Jack: Oh, my God. I forgot that the Fast and Furious were there. Y. I was just thinking this was a John Wick movie because I forgot about the Fast and Furious entire.
Cristina: They're robbing a bank. The dog is the guard. He learned how to shoot because of John Wick, who's his last. I guess who's dead.
Jack: Who's dead?
Cristina: A dead John Wick. He's now a dead John Wick. So I don't know how this is a crossover. I mean, I guess because we see John Wick die.
Jack: We see John Wick die. So chronologically, this must be happening at the end of the entire John Wick series.
Cristina: Yes. This is kind of, I guess, the. The. I don't know.
Jack: D***. So we never even get John Wick versus Fast.
Cristina: Don't want to kill him.
Jack: We never even get John Wick against.
Cristina: The fact Unless he comes back alive. Why not? They. Someone has the technology to bring him back to life.
Jack: Like Jason or something. Jason wasn't Jason X. No, it wasn't Jason X who did Jason versus. It was Jason versus Freddie.
Cristina: Right? Yes.
Jack: Okay. Oh.
Cristina: But anyway, yes. Okay. So the dog joins them, but you think it's because he's become best friends with them, but secretly is so that he can steal the money that they stole to bring John Wick back to life somehow? It doesn't need to be explained. It's a lot of money from a bank. It's enough to Bring John Wick. I don't know how long John Wick has been dead from this point, but maybe he was frozen the whole time and he has enough money to cure him. So we can have John Wick in this movie.
Jack: So we can have John Wick in this movie. John Wick has to die because his dog needs to be the hero. Maybe the point is that the dog can somehow get the fast people. So in any case, the fast dog, not the fast dog. John Wick's dog has to be the one hiring the fast crew to find the cure, because they can do anything. He's just a dog with a gun. Okay, but they can do anything.
Cristina: Okay, so when they rob, they're robbing the bank, and then he's like, whoa, they did such a good job. No one could stop me.
Jack: Yes, me, John Wick. Stop.
Cristina: Yes, I've killed plenty of people. But they somehow got away. And then he becomes friends with them. And.
Jack: No, he doesn't even just become friends with. He doesn't become friends at all. He hires them. He doesn't trust them, though. Okay, but he hikes their family concept. They're. They're not his family. He only has one family member.
Cristina: Okay, so John Wick, who died randomly.
Jack: Who got hit by a stray bullet from a gang. At. From a. From gang violence a block over.
Cristina: Okay, so it's not even related to the John Wick movies. Like, not. The main villain didn't actually kill him, whatever that is.
Jack: It was because nobody can kill him if they want to.
Cristina: Oh, okay. So it had to be by accident.
Jack: It had to be by accident. That's his power. He can't be killed. He can only be murdered.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Or how do we put it? No, he can't be murdered. He could only be killed. There you go.
Cristina: Sure.
Jack: He can't be murdered. He could only be killed.
Cristina: So they. Okay, so then what are they doing?
Jack: What is who doing?
Cristina: The past. How are they bringing him back?
Jack: They are. Well, they had something. You know, he's like, somebody has to have something that connects. They know the government and people because they've been hired by people.
Cristina: But don't they have to, like, race to something or steal something?
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So what' happening here is they. They find out. We're going to find out at the end of this conversation. By the end of this conversation, we will know what it is. But they're chasing something that's time sensitive. That's all we need to know. There's a time sensitive place they gotta be to get the thing or the person or be at the right place at the right time to get the. Whatever necessity is required for John Wick to come back to life.
Cristina: They have to drive fast enough that it breaks the time barrier and they travel back in time.
Jack: They have space abilities.
Cristina: They just travel back in time. With normal car. There's no like science scene behind it. It's just they got so fast that they go backwards.
Jack: More like Ant Man.
Cristina: Like Barry from the Flash, I guess. I don't know. He can't travel back in time if he goes too fast.
Jack: Yeah, he can.
Cristina: Yeah, they do that.
Jack: He enters a Speed Force.
Cristina: Yeah. They enter the Speed Force. Yes. In normal cars. But they're just so fast.
Jack: Oh my God. That actually kind of makes a ridiculous sense. Assuming all universes coexist one way or another. If. If you were to just go fast enough, it doesn't matter who you are or where you are. You go into the speed for. By default. Because the Speed Force is real.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: No matter where you are.
Cristina: Should we bring D.C. into this?
Jack: We'll find out.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Did you just go fast enough?
Cristina: Because we need to change the title.
Jack: If we do and you go into the Speed Force. Well, no. This is just the. The main point here is just somehow this is about John Wick and the fast people.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But he goes fast enough. They go fast enough.
Cristina: The group.
Jack: The group. Because they're all really fast. And this mission for. They're being blackmailed by this dog or something. So they're also furious and they gotta do it. So they're. They just figure out going super fast in their cars so fast that together they enter the Speed Force.
Cristina: Yes. And they go back in time to save John Wick.
Jack: To save John Wick.
Cristina: To save.
Jack: But then they'll never get the mission to go back in time. You see, this is the problem with.
Cristina: Going back in time.
Jack: It's really.
Cristina: It doesn't matter in this world. Okay. We're not. It's not going to deal with time travel problems.
Jack: So they're going to go back in time, they're going to save, and they're.
Cristina: Just going to live in that reality. And there's no other version of them. Okay.
Jack: No. They'll cease existing.
Cristina: Immediately. Ceases in this movie. They're there.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: Fair. The other version of them just is gone.
Jack: Wait, we were making a movie? Oh yeah. It was a movie with John Wick.
Cristina: Yes. They save him. Like they push him out of the way of the bullet with their car or something. And then he's mad at Them at first. So they become enemies. Then he starts killing everyone the Dom knows. Because he has to.
Jack: John Wick has to murder them. No. Yeah. Wait, he just comes back to life and starts murdering?
Cristina: He doesn't come back to life. He's just alive dead.
Jack: Yes. He's just not dead.
Cristina: He's just not dead. Because they save him.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: But he's angry because maybe his dog was there too. And they accidentally killed the dog instead of him while they were trying to save him.
Jack: Yeah. Yes. But now. So this is assuming that there's just one state of time and they. Although they traveled through time, there wasn't a future. They just sort of rewound time.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that in. They just remove themselves from that rewind so that when they stop time, they jump out and they now save John Wick. They move him slightly to the side and the bullet doesn't hit him.
Cristina: Yes. But the dog dies.
Jack: But the dog dies. I guess it looks like they threw the. Maybe the dog was behind him. The dog was tactically placed behind John Wick. Or not tactically with the dog was just happen to be there in the same trajectory of the round that was shot from the gang. Like violence that was going on a block over. So the bullet comes and it flies down the block.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The fast group are so fast that they not only time traveled back to that moment, but they beat the bullet as it's getting there. And they move John Wick out of the way.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And the bullet hits the dog. Yes.
Cristina: But they somehow do it with the car. And somehow John way getting hit by the car doesn't kill him at all. Doesn't like.
Jack: Oh, right. So they just hit him with the car.
Cristina: Yes. Yes. But it doesn't like do anything to him. No damage.
Jack: No damage.
Cristina: Just. He just moves out of the way. Like in most of their movies. They. People get hit and it's nothing.
Jack: They're fine. And this is John Wick can't die.
Cristina: Yeah. So. But the dog dies from the bullet.
Jack: Yes. Yes.
Cristina: And then John Wick decides to murder them.
Jack: Yes. Because it's their fault. He didn't die and the dog did.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The important part is the dog did. I was gonna be the shield. And then you stopped it.
Cristina: So that. So he purposely jumped in front of that bullet. Oh my dog in the first reality.
Jack: This is the reveal at the end of the story, isn't it?
Cristina: But it's not. We got two more hours.
Jack: We got two more hours of this and he has to kill a lot of people.
Cristina: Yes, exactly. That's what we're here for.
Jack: That's what we're here for.
Cristina: So wait, the first half is the Fast and Furious and then the next half is going to be the Wick. Oh, now that he's alive.
Jack: Oh, yes, yes. Oh, this is a really good movie. I would watch this really weird sci fi film. Crazy crossover. So now we got Wick and he has to kill the fast people. But they're really fast.
Cristina: They're really.
Jack: They're really fast and they know they can't kill him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So now they're back to their old days of having to rely 100% on driving. They usually rely on driving anyways.
Cristina: But he has to, like, show them why he's not someone they should mess up. Like, one of them should die at that scene.
Jack: Like, yes.
Cristina: He, I don't know, pulls one of them out of their cars and murders them. And it's really violent and scary. And then the wrestler, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe the dog told them about it, but like, they didn't really understand until they saw it.
Jack: Interesting. Like, yeah, my master is like a real thug.
Cristina: Yeah. So. And then they saw and they were like, oh, crap, we can't fight this. There's nothing we can't. We're fast and we're furious. But this is something else.
Jack: He has to outsmart the smartest guy, who's ludicrous. He's smart and he has to out.
Cristina: He's a brainy dude.
Jack: Yeah. And he has that out like. Like beat in a fight. The best fighter, which is the Rock.
Cristina: I feel like he can.
Jack: He has to take both of them.
Cristina: Oh, are those the first people who take out? He takes.
Jack: Yeah, those are the people that die in that scene.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is people that die immediately.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: He has to be able to beat those people at whatever they're doing best.
Cristina: Yeah. So he first kills Lud Kris. Cuz that's probably the easier of the two.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: And then the Rock, trying to stop him, gets murdered because he's like, whatever, I can stop him. Or whatever. Look at these arms. And then he dies.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Then the crew drive away.
Jack: Then they're like, holy crap.
Cristina: Or do they try to hit him with a car and they realize, oh, not even the car can stop him.
Jack: Well, yeah, this began because the car failed. Because keep in mind, both the Rock and Ludicrous are also drivers. They began by hitting him with a car and then he beat them at whatever thing.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Their go to is always just hit him with a car. They every they have to start at that.
Cristina: Okay. But they're not gonna try to do it again because the first time was to save him. So should they try again to kill him?
Jack: Oh, no. Yeah. After he starts murdering people and fighting. He. After he just gets hostile. They hit him with cars initially. That's what happens. He gets hostile because you killed my dog.
Cristina: But he's like.
Jack: Or maybe he just kills Ludacris first because it's easy. But then the Rock is like, I'm gonna beat you up.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And he's like, total smackdown. Total smackdown. One sided. And the.
Cristina: Rob his arm out and, like, stabs him with the arm. The. The bone part of the arm or whatever that's sticking out.
Jack: Yes. Through his mouth.
Cristina: Through. Yes. It's just disgusting.
Jack: It's the scariest thing they've ever seen. It's the scariest thing they've ever seen. By the way, he appropriately earned his name, right? The Baba Yaga.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: Like it's appropriate that he's some scary thing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because like, holy crap, John Wick is an issue. And he's horrifying. Yes, he's really horrifying.
Cristina: He's.
Jack: No morals. No.
Cristina: He.
Jack: Dude. He doesn't respect the law.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Doesn't give us the slightest crap.
Cristina: So then they run.
Jack: So then they run.
Cristina: But what is their plan?
Jack: What? Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: They just drive.
Jack: Well, their family. They got to go have a family meeting, as they usually.
Cristina: They do need a dinner together.
Jack: Yes, they're gonna have that family meeting during dinner. No, they need a happy dinner. And the family meeting. The family meeting is usually in a warehouse where they're gonna have that pep talk.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So they're gonna go to dinner first because happy times.
Cristina: They're not. They're mourning the death still.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Stuff like that. Celebrations and sadness or whatever. And then after we see that happen.
Cristina: What is the conversation doing that? They're not planning anything. They're just like, let's eat and mourn and laugh.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: With alcohol.
Jack: Because there needs to be filler stuff. Yeah, we need to fill too.
Cristina: And then when they're in the warehouse, they really talk about. Okay, now let's get serious. What are we gonna do?
Jack: Yeah, because think about it. All the times that they hang out in the family, this is just a normal family dinner. And then there's like the ending movie family that. So right now is that normal family dinner where they remind us, oh, yeah, they're family, which they tell us every five minutes. So I don't know why, but we're also gonna, in this movie, tell people every five minutes that they're family. And then we're gonna show them that their family, after we told them an.
Cristina: Infinite number of times, one of the lines should be, and don't forget we're family.
Jack: Yes, that should definitely be one of the lines. And he'll do. Do. Vin Diesel's a good actor. He'll sell it. Yeah, he'll sell that line. But that line's gonna be there.
Cristina: Do they laugh at the line?
Jack: No, because it's gonna be at the end of a great speech. It's gonna be a motivational speech that doesn't mention the trials ahead specifically, but it's gonna say stuff like trials ahead. The speech is gonna go more or less like. And together, there's nothing that we can't do. And there's no one I'd rather have at this table more than all of you. And don't forget, we're family.
Cristina: Yes. That's the dinner.
Jack: That's the dinner speech.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: 100%. He's just motivating them for the dark times ahead. Because they know the conversation they're having later in the warehouse that they totally could have had here. Because it's exactly the same people in both places.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But it's a sketchier place, and that makes them comfortable. I'm not judging. Whatever. Like.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Group rituals. They have.
Cristina: Whatever group is so big. Where was the whole group at the beginning? Because there has to be that intro of every person being contacted to fly in from wherever they are in the world.
Jack: Right. There's two different, like, warehouse meetings.
Cristina: So, like. And then they gotta.
Jack: They gotta have the first warehouse meeting where they're like, oh, no, that's. So we're doing the wrong order.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The first warehouse meeting happens, and they are like, hey, we can't. First they. They talk about the issue and how we're gonna solve it. We can't. We need more brains. We need more people.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So what we gotta do is. Do what? Get the family together.
Cristina: Yes. And that's when they contact all these other random. Everybody that we've seen in the other movies.
Jack: Yes. And we have a bunch of scenes of like, hey, dude, what's going on?
Cristina: And a lot of airplanes landing.
Jack: Yes. No, but before the airplane's landing, we get, like, a good 20 minutes of seeing what they're doing for a moment before they get the call.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. Like the two of those guys gambling or.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. Like, where they were when they got it. Some of them. We are our favorite People. So we'll see, like, a longer chunk of them, like, them doing a bunch of stuff, and then boom. Oh, yeah, we forgot. This is not a movie about them. That's how good they are.
Cristina: Yeah, but.
Jack: Oh, yeah, the call. This was about the call. We forgot we were watching their life. Right. Okay, now. Yo, can you come and help with the thing? And that'll happen, like two characters and there'll be some background people that were like, oh, yeah, I remember that guy.
Cristina: Yeah. And, like, Jason Statham. You gotta. Yeah, he's not hanging out with them. He. You need to call him. And he's, like, playing tennis out there for some reason.
Jack: I was gonna go towards more of a sketchy job. Look, he's on break right now.
Cristina: He's on break.
Jack: He's on break. He might be this crazy terrorist guy, but he also has downtime.
Cristina: Yeah. He has a hobby, and it's. It's tennis.
Jack: Plus, he's also converted to familyism or whatever they do.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: By the way, it's called familyism.
Cristina: Familyism What?
Jack: Familyism is the ritual religion that they follow. That's really what's happening here. It's family.
Cristina: Then they need, like, a cross type of thing, you know, like a symbol for their family.
Jack: It's the letters GTR with Dom's face under it. With Dom's face under it. Or GTR tattooed on Dom's cheek. That's what it is. It's Dom's head with GTR tattooed on his cheek. And then on the other side, he has Brian written across his other cheek.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's kind of. It's more like a flag they don't worship. A symbol of some sort. I guess a flag is a sort of symbol. And that's like their cross equivalent.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And the flag happens to be, like, Dom's head.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Inside of a box with letters on one side and GTR on the other.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they all have that tattooed on their arm too. And that's how you really know if somebody's in the family.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And we get glimpses of it during the family dinner, which, by the way, happens after that first warehouse meeting where they call everyone. Where they call everybody. Everybody flies in. We get the shot of everybody's individual situations.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then after everybody gets the calls, we see all the planes start showing up, and then we get again, see everybody one by one. But as they're walking into the warehouse, the warehouse that they're still in. But we're not gonna have the big convo yet.
Cristina: We're Not.
Jack: No, because they're just showing up now.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And after everybody shows up and there's a bunch of handshakes and stuff and kisses and hugs and laughing, we see the dinner and he gives that motivational speech.
Cristina: Wait, so they leave the warehouse.
Jack: They leave the warehouse.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They were in the warehouse. They called everybody. Everybody's life happened. Then they came back into the warehouse to welcome everybody.
Cristina: Okay. And then they leave the house.
Jack: Then they leave the warehouse and go have dinner.
Cristina: What is John Wick doing in this moment? Or does he just not exist until we need him?
Jack: Yeah, he's just. I don't know. He's talking to a guy who works with trash people.
Cristina: He's getting more guns.
Jack: He's getting more guns. Yeah, he's prepping.
Cristina: He's finding robots. He's building robots with guns.
Jack: Yeah. No, he's like talking to some guy.
Cristina: Just talking.
Jack: He's usually just talking to some guy. He doesn't do much. He just goes talk to some guy and then solves it himself.
Cristina: Anyways, he's looking for a warehouse.
Jack: Yeah. Yes, exactly. He's out there.
Cristina: I know they're out here and they're right under my nose.
Jack: Yeah, that's actually really good. That's awesome. They're looking for the. He's looking for the warehouse.
Cristina: He knows they're in a warehouse. He just doesn't know where the warehouse.
Jack: Because the crime world is connected. He just asked somebody, and they're like a warehouse, but nobody wants to tell him what warehouse.
Cristina: Yeah. Or maybe they all lead him to different warehouses that are not the warehouse. Because everyone's family. They're all secret family.
Jack: They're all secret family.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Everybody Dom has ever met.
Cristina: Yes, exactly. It's the opposite of his world. In this world, everyone is connected to.
Jack: Dom one way or another.
Cristina: Hiding their.
Jack: That. That familyism.
Cristina: Yes. Like, maybe we see glimpses of their tattoo, though.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: When they're giving him directions to these warehouses that have nothing in them in a.
Jack: In a fight club movie kind of way where it's so subtle, you're meant to miss it.
Cristina: Yes, but it's right there.
Jack: But it's right there. Like, if you were to re. Watch this movie, you would see how everyone on Earth.
Cristina: Yes. But also we'll have a scene where we will show that everyone on earth has.
Jack: Yes. At the end.
Cristina: Yeah, that's towards the end.
Jack: Like after somebody has won or lost this fight.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And John Wick is just thinking back.
Cristina: And then he realizes. Yes.
Jack: Pieces it together.
Cristina: But before that, they leading him on to random warehouses. And these people, okay, they have dinner, and then now they go to the warehouse again for the third time. But this time it's for real. What's the point? Yes.
Jack: So this time it's for real. They go there, they're standing around, and they're discussing how they're gonna deal with John Wick, how they gonna get away.
Cristina: From him, how they gonna.
Jack: Well, they think of. They spitball for a while, but it ultimately lands on. We have to drive really fast back.
Cristina: To the future where he's dead.
Jack: But that doesn't exist anymore.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because we cut that timeline out when we went.
Cristina: Do they care?
Jack: No, but we explained why it didn't matter before.
Cristina: Why did we explain it? I feel like we should have explained anything. And it just works because they want it to work, because that's how it works.
Jack: That would be too easy. This would be too short. We need to fill two and a half hours.
Cristina: We did. With all those intros and conversations and meaningless. Like, there's so much meaningless junk happening.
Jack: Fair enough. Look, we filled two hours, not two hours. We filled 40 minutes. If we say 20 minutes was seeing their lives, and then 20 minutes was saying hi to them when they came into the. And then the. The dinner party was maybe like 10 minutes. That's 50 minutes.
Cristina: 50 minutes. And then the whole intro of the dog and seeing the do August. The where the.
Jack: Yeah, so we can. We can realistically say that's 30 minutes. We had 50 minutes before. Plus 30 minutes. That's an hour and 20 minutes. We still have 40. 70 minutes ago.
Cristina: 70 minutes ago.
Jack: Yeah. So we had the dog leading all the way to John Wick. Oh, wait, the fight scene where John Wick is a. Kills. Freaking ludicrous. And the rock could be like another 10 minutes. So that's an hour and a half. So all we need to do is kill 60 minutes now.
Cristina: Okay, so.
Jack: So we have to come up with a plan and execute it. We know driving fast, but we don't know. So, okay, we fill that in. We know driving fast. We have to see the driving fast. We could have a scene that's 30 minutes long driving away from John Wick, who's always catching up and slowly picking at two or three of them before just murdering them and murdering.
Cristina: But what's their plan before it's just like, we're just gonna drive.
Jack: I don't know. We just know it's the.
Cristina: Because they need something. They need to be like, okay, this is the plan. Or it's like we're Just gonna confuse him. I don't know. Or their plan is to drive fast enough to go to the future. But he sees them and he slowly kills them while they're trying to do that. So they never get to do that.
Jack: He kills some of them, but the.
Cristina: Ones that live are not able to do it.
Jack: No, they do. But also John Wick could do anything.
Cristina: So he goes with that.
Jack: Also going into the future. Okay, John Wick is going into the future where he was murdered.
Cristina: But his dog is now alive.
Jack: But his dog is now alive. And now they have to deal with John Wick and his dog.
Cristina: The dog explains what happened.
Jack: Oh, my God. And that's how he gets. No, that's how he becomes family. No, it makes sense.
Cristina: No, do we change the. No, we don't change the title.
Jack: Oh my God. It was a freaking perfect film.
Cristina: It was nice. You see, the time travel fixed it. It did not break whatsoever.
Jack: Wait, but then listen to my logic here. This is crazy, because we kind of just inadvertently solved an interesting paradox. Sure, we are violating every rule under the sun, but completely irrational logic. We sort of created a problem and solved it with the same. It's like a double negative. It's positive now. The time travel ruined it. So if you use time travel to solve it, you're good. Yes, except Barry always does a third jump because he thinks he didn't fix it. And maybe he didn't. Then he did negative again and then positive again and then negative again. Or it just doesn't work.
Cristina: Yes, it's always something. Yeah, something's always wrong.
Jack: There's too many variables. It's infinity.
Cristina: Except this is a fast five, so nothing goes wrong.
Jack: So nothing goes wrong.
Cristina: Except that lots of them are dead.
Jack: And he fought. Yeah, except a bunch of them are dead. But it's okay because they now have John Wick. Yeah, a lot of them are dead. And John Wick killed them.
Cristina: Do you know which one are dead though? Is his girl dead? Is his son in law dead? Is his sister dead? Is it his sister? That's his sister, right? His nephew. Yes, that's his nephew for sure.
Jack: Nathan is dead.
Cristina: Satan for sure has the guy.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?
Cristina: Too close to him dies. But all the other side characters.
Jack: No. Well, these people are all his closest family now. He doesn't. He has no measurement bar.
Cristina: Whatever.
Jack: Everybody equally a million percent.
Cristina: For us, we know his family. Family versus his friend family.
Jack: Well, this is. This is what we have to think about. This is an opportunity to do something really cool. Right? And so Think of, like, the Walking Dead. The coolest moments late into the series are really when the original characters are left together because everybody else goes somewhere else. Now, the original characters have been separated to rule a town over here or be a leader of a scavenger team over there. So there's four or five towns, which means four or five of the original characters get split around and there's four or five scavengers. And some of them just straight out went Nomad, just to spread them out evenly. Okay, that's happening here. But the opposite. We're trying to get them together because the coolest moments, again, was when something brought all of these original people away from their nomadicness and their town leadership and whatever, and we just get, like, Michonne and Daryl and Rick and Carol and everybody together. You're like, wow, this is cool. So we want that. So we got to kill off everybody who wasn't in the first movie. That's how many people have to die. We've decided the parameters.
Cristina: Except that we killed Ludicrous.
Jack: Well, yeah, we just.
Cristina: Everyone else but him.
Jack: No, everybody. We can kill as many people as we want, but everybody who does that, who's left, has to be part of the original cast.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's the only requirement. Everybody left? Yes. Because there's, like, a thousand of them.
Cristina: Okay. But then after that happens, he becomes their friend. But when's the moment that he realizes, oh, wait, all these other people I've been seeing are part of the family in a secret way? Or is it.
Jack: Oh, but no, that's a. That's when Toretto is going to explain something. But first we have to find out who dies. Oh, so I think Tyrese has to die because he showed up in the second movie.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so did Ludacris, which is perfect.
Cristina: Because we already killed him off.
Jack: Which is perfect because we already killed him.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: John Cena has to die. Unless he already died.
Cristina: I don't even know. I don't know. Was this. Was his character there? He was a villain.
Jack: He was a bad guy. Yeah. He's Toretto's brother, though.
Cristina: He had to be dead.
Jack: No, he had to become part of the team.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Okay. This is basic. Basically, the ultimate idea is everybody who was an original character. Everybody who was an original character survives. Unless they're already dead. And everybody who's not a first film character gets murdered by John Wick. As they're running away, trying to move fast enough, there was a place they had to get to. Running away from John Wick. This Is what. This is how we're killing time right here. There was a place they had to get to where the cars, their normal, everyday cars, can be driven fast enough to gain an impossible amount of speed and travel through time. That's how they did this the first time, to get here and save John Wick. And that's how they got. They got to get back to that place to leave, getting away from John Wick. So they're racing there, and he's murdering them. And those of them left.
Cristina: Is he murdering with a car? Is he jumping on their cars?
Jack: Yes, he's getting from car to car, slowly picking apart, murdering all of anybody.
Cristina: He has to, like, start on the motorcycle, because that's cool. So he jumps from his motorcycle onto their car, and then I guess, like, he gets in the car, kills them, drives the car to the next car, jumps out of the car into the other car, kills them.
Jack: But everybody who's known for fist fighting really well, dies in a fist fight.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That has to happen. So you beats them trying to get into their car, and it will not.
Cristina: Gets a more violent death of like some random objects being thrown into. Oh, crap.
Jack: And I have another way for us to fill out more of this time, okay. Some of them find out, like, not everybody was there, right? So communication gets cut. Trying to do the mission and bring him back to life, but it finally works and they save him from the thing. Some of them are cut off and go. Because they were planning it very exact, right? They. They went to the hill that they needed to drive really quick down. They time traveled back, but they were a couple of hours early. They split off. They're like, we're gonna meet right here at the time of the thing, okay. And when they get there, they realize we don't need everybody. So, you know, this guy went to see his daughter, and that guy went over there to like, do this thing or whatever.
Cristina: Okay. Before another gathering.
Jack: Yeah, no, no. They're just. We just know that not everybody, although the plan is established and everybody went back in time, not everybody is at the mission site doing the thing, okay? So that when specifically everybody who's a fighter is doing something else somehow. And then radio communication gets cut or whatever, and they don't know where they're gonna run. But the guys run away after John Wick is saved by those that are there, all they get is a mission complete, guys. Everything is going great. And then radio cuts off, and it's because John Wick started murdering them right after they saved the dog. So all the Fighters are elsewhere, and they're like, we don't know what's happening, but we're gonna wait for communication. And John Wick starts murdering. Specifically Hopper, who he beats the crap out of.
Cristina: I thought they all got together after. After he murders the first two. They go have the warehouse and the dinner, then. The warehouse to invite everyone? No, they go to the warehouse, invite everyone.
Jack: No, that was all to solve the mission for the dog. For the dog.
Cristina: Oh, I thought they had a dinner and all that also after.
Jack: No, that was to solve the problem.
Cristina: Okay. And then they solve it by time traveling.
Jack: Then they solve it by time traveling. And so they saved. That's how they got back to save, Okay, a John Wick in the first place. So save John Wick by the time.
Cristina: They'Re not getting together after that, because then he's looking for them for their warehouse. That's why they had the dinner and stuff. And they were. He was leading to the wrong warehouses while they were planning what they're gonna do. Unless we're not gonna have that anymore either.
Jack: No, he is looking for them. He is looking for a specific warehouse. So we. We've somehow still come across time problems.
Cristina: So they don't meet up at a warehouse.
Jack: No, they do. That's how everything gets executed. Yeah, they get the job by the dog.
Cristina: Like, the strongest dudes should be there then.
Jack: Yeah, they are. They are. So what's the order here? The dog hires them for the mission, the mission gets done, but first they find out it's impossible. We need more brains. They call people, we see what they're doing in their personal lives. Actually, let's go back to the beginning. The movie starts. John Wick is living his life, and we're seeing him just be a normal guy being emo. Looking at. Yeah, and looking at photos of his dead girlfriend or whatever the h*** that was his wife.
Cristina: And so he's watching a video of her watching him in the video.
Jack: Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: We don't see him in the video. We just know he's. She's looking at him.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Cristina: And she's just smiling.
Jack: And then he. We see him for a while having this. This normal, boring life thing. And he goes to do something, and now we're just left. The camera watches. You know, we see him walk out the door, and he pets his dog. He's like, I'll be right back. And he closes the door. But we're on the dog side of the door when it closes, not on John Wink side of the door, following him. The cameras and following him. This is when we find out, oh, first five minutes of seeing John Wick was really. They all had. It's every. Because also, this movie has to be rewatchable, right? Because everybody's gonna have little tattoos and stuff. So when they rewatch it, they need to be like, oh, yeah. Wait, when the camera was there, it was stuck with the dog. That's how we were supposed to know. Oh, it's about the dog right now.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: So once he leaves, we're like, oh, how weird that we're just still with the dog the first time we watch him. The second time, we're like, oh, yeah, I get it. Anyways, the dog's still there. And then the cat. The dog just starts walking away. And we follow the dog, and that's when the dog then puts on his uniform. He goes to the. We're just thinking he's a normal dog, but he's not.
Cristina: Because we got to find out he has a gun and he knows how to use it.
Jack: Yes. And he's gonna go protect the bank. He's working.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So he just puts on his security guard uniform, his cop uniform. He's a police dog. That's a real job. You guys thought this made no sense. Ha. Jokes on you. He puts on his police dog uniform, and he gets his gun and he goes to the bank. He clocks in. It's a normal day. First he goes to the precinct. He's like, hey, guys. Yeah. H***, yeah. We have to. Right? We gotta fill up. Two and a half hours.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: He goes ahead. He gets his coffee in the morning, fills it up. You know, there's the donuts that Stacy always brings because she's. She's a pick me. She wants to stand.
Cristina: I don't know. If we see him grab a cup of coffee. I don't know, because I feel like it should be a bowl of coffee on his table or something he grabbed.
Jack: No, Fair enough. There's a bowl. It's like a coffee mug, but the handle is instead of.
Cristina: He has to grab it with his mouth, though. Like, I'm assuming he's using the gun with his mouth.
Jack: Yes. Listen, there's a. Instead of a coffee mug where you hold a vertical handle, there's a coffee bowl with a horizontal handle.
Cristina: Okay. And then he brings it to the.
Jack: Table or something he brings out to the coffee machine in the coffee room when he first gets in. Because everybody's getting coffee because it's the morning.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so he takes his coffee bowl and he gets his coffee. Has small Talk with Bob.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then he. Stacy, who brings the donuts every day, brought the donuts. And he goes and he grabs a donut. He does. He's allergic to chocolate. He doesn't touch. He doesn't touch the chocolate donut.
Cristina: You remembered. And she's like, yeah, here's your special donut. Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. He always goes jelly.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: He always goes jelly. And so he gets his jelly donut, takes it to the desk, comes back. You know, he has no opposable thumbs. He has. He has to use his mouth for everything. So he takes the donut first, then comes back, then he grabs the coffee bowl, then he takes the coffee bowl.
Cristina: Over there, and he brings it back empty.
Jack: He brings. Yeah, exactly. Pretty quickly, too. It's almost instantaneous.
Cristina: Yeah. So we don't actually watch him eat the donut and drink the coffee.
Jack: Yeah, he did it. Then he. He's there. He. He gets his paperwork, signs his time sheet, does what he has to do, leaves go the precinct, and he goes to the bank. And it's normal. We see how loved he is at the bank. Everybody comes, hey, how you doing, Waves. Everybody knows his name. Yeah. We're killing time for days, setting it up.
Cristina: Like, this is about a dog.
Jack: Yes. We're tricking people. It's important.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so we got it for two and a half hours, and we find out he's really loved a real popular police dog that.
Cristina: Yes. But they're gonna rob this bank, though, right?
Jack: Yes. And they totally show up in the middle of the day after we saw him. Totally. Be awesome. At the end of the day. Not even the middle of the day. It's the end. His shift is almost over. This was almost.
Cristina: He was about to clock out.
Jack: He was about to clock out, and John Wick was about to pick him up. That's how this happens. John Wick was about to pick him. He goes to work earlier, so he can't take him to work, but he comes out of work so he could pick him up from work. Okay, duh. So he goes to the bank to pick up his dog, who's finishing work as a police officer, and then he gets shot by a stray bullet.
Cristina: Okay, so now that that's related to the bank, it's just a stray bullet being fired outside of the bank.
Jack: Yes. But this happens right after he saw the people rob the bank.
Cristina: He saw the people need to. Oh, okay. There.
Jack: No. The fast guys just show up. We know who it is, but we don't see them yet. We don't see their Faces. We see cars bust through the front windows and bust through the front entrance. Cars all tinted windows.
Cristina: Before we know that, the fast.
Jack: But we know. But we know. The viewer knows.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Crashes through those front windows and side entrances. People with masks. Like the first movie when they were robbing trucks. They got all the tricks and all the tech.
Cristina: No one dies.
Jack: No one dies. They just rob the place clean, clean, get all the money and dip. Then immediately following that, the chaos led to some.
Cristina: So how does the dog find them?
Jack: He's a good smell. He can smell what? Gang violence.
Cristina: Sniff them out.
Jack: Okay. Yeah. There's a gang war happening outside. Stray bullet. And just as John Wick is about to get there, and he was about to tell John Wick about his crazy day where the people robbed the place. Bam. Hit by his trade bullet when his back was turned. And the dog is terrified and horrified there. But when he's mourning John Wick, he remembers. He remembers.
Cristina: He's like, those people are so advanced. They can figure this out. Yes, he remembers their smell. He follows it to their warehouse house.
Jack: Yes. Where he black. He first scopes the place out because he's John Wick's dog. He's not an idiot.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he scopes the place out and successfully gets dirt on all of them. So they can't say no.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Oh, we gotta see him doing it too.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh.
Jack: No, we gotta see him getting the dirt on. If at least the dirt on Dom. It's just one.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. That's better.
Jack: Yeah, it's just one guy. It's just Dom.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And he gets the dirt and he shows Dom.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And then Dom tells everybody. You guys have to trust me. I can't tell you what it is.
Cristina: What is the dirt? We gotta find out. Even if it's towards the end of the movie.
Jack: No, it's the breath. The dirt is the briefcase from Pulp Fiction. We don't know it's that question mark. So people watch it over and over.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We'll never know.
Cristina: Be an actual briefcase and Reese. Briefcase.
Jack: Yes, the dog has a briefcase. And he shows Dom and he says there are copies. There's one copy. I won't tell you where it is, but I'll give you this one and I'll destroy the other one. And I'll let you see me destroy it.
Cristina: Yeah, but you have to picture of the dirt. Yeah, but we don't get to see the dirt. It's just referenced as the there as well.
Jack: Yes, yes. It's only referenced as a dirt dirt. The Dirt is whatever's in the briefcase.
Cristina: Yes. We never know what it is. And we'll never know.
Jack: And we'll never know.
Cristina: Awesome.
Jack: And then Dom is like, oh. And then he tells the people. His people, his family.
Cristina: And they trust him.
Jack: And they trust them because they're family.
Cristina: Although when they find out it's about the dirt, they're like, we're really p***** that we're doing it for the dirt.
Jack: But they're still like, we're loyal no matter what. We don't agree. But we're down.
Cristina: Yes. And once they start dying, I guess. I don't know.
Jack: No, because. Because now the mutual enemy really took life.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Before it's like, we don't like what you made us do, but we're still gonna do it because we're loyal.
Cristina: Until that guy starts murdering them.
Jack: Yes. And then they're like, we need to stop him together.
Cristina: Yes. And so they do by. No, they don't, because he kills them. Most of them, except for whoever is the original.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: But those people are. Have the ability, though, to get to the future.
Jack: Yeah, they've successfully get to.
Cristina: After they like. So after all of this, though, happens between. No, I mean, it's time travel, so it doesn't matter. It's not really the future.
Jack: Immediately after, they're blackmailed.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: They then know that we're gonna trust Dom, we're gonna solve the problem. They get the minds together. We see the scene of everybody being called because they need to get people with. The problem is first they have a five minute discussion. This is too difficult. We can't figure it out. We need all the homies because that's how we figure these really hard conundrums out. They call all the homies one by one. We. But although we only see Dom make one call, it's the cool scene where he's like, I know what we do. We get the family together. And then he. He presses a single button on the cell phone. He opens. It's a flip phone. For whatever reason, he open. Opens a flip phone, hits a single button, makes one call. And from that point forward, all we see is a bunch of scenes of all.
Cristina: Everyone getting contacted.
Jack: Everybody getting contacted. After we get a little background on all of them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Seeing maybe like five minutes of each one and what they were doing. Maybe that's five minutes is excessive. We'll say like two and a half minutes each of what each one is doing. And there's like 10 of them.
Cristina: There's 10 of them. So no, no, they're Calling people from the first movie gets two minutes. Everyone else gets a minute.
Jack: Fair enough. Yeah, we. So we fill in like 15 minutes total. Whatever, it's fine.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we get the scenes leading up into the call. And then afterwards the scene of planes for days showing up. And when they walk into the warehouse and people greeting them, hugs and whatever. After everybody up to the last one shows up, up. We get the dinner. The dinner gets this, the fun conversation. We see the cars parked in the front. We always got to see the cars parked in the front. We need that shot, of course. All their cool vehicles. And we're wondering, oh, who's driving what? You know, that's important. That's important. That's that candy. And then they have the speech that Dom says. And then they go and solve the problem, which is by going back in time and saving John Wick. They kill the dog, but the dog dies.
Cristina: Then they start to die.
Jack: Then they start to die because John Wick is murdered.
Cristina: You know, so then they go to the warehouse again.
Jack: They decide, wait, oh, they gotta get away. Do you think they're getting away from John Wick?
Cristina: Yeah, to the warehouse to make the plan of like, okay, now we gotta go back in time.
Jack: Yes. Oh, but also their family is gonna be alive. No, they're going forward in time.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Family screwed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Yes. So in any case, they're like, we gotta. They do escape somehow. Cuz they're fast. They're really fast. But they're like, if we leave wherever place, we're hiding it now. So they go to a random warehouse.
Cristina: Okay. Yes. But he's looking for them because he knows they ran into a warehouse. So he just says no. Which warehouse?
Jack: Yes, because he knows warehouses is their thing.
Cristina: Yeah. Yes.
Jack: And he's like, they went to a warehouse. Yes, immediately. He just knows. He's.
Cristina: He's a smart guy. He's like fast cars. Okay, warehouse.
Jack: Yes, exactly. They need to hide the cars. Where are they going to hide it?
Cristina: Exactly. Warehouse. Exactly, exactly. Beautiful connection. He's a genius.
Jack: He's perfect. It's such glass clear, rational.
Cristina: Yes. The problem is everyone's on their side hiding them.
Jack: Yes, exactly. So he's being led a bunch of whack fake warehouses that aren't the warehouse. But we all. We're seeing a bunch of interactions. So that hidden in this moment and really throughout the movie. But this moment has the closest density of people with the tattoo showing up randomly and vaguely being seen. It'll be like, like seven or eight different scenes where somebody with the tattoo misleads John Wick back to back in like a. In like a 10 minute period. It's been throughout the movie, but now it's a 10 minute period where you see a bunch of them.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Until he gets to them. And then they gotta scramble out of that warehouse.
Cristina: No, they. By the. Okay. But by the time he gets to them, they have the plan of. Okay, we're just gonna go back to where we were to do the time travel thing.
Jack: Yes, they're just gonna Time.
Cristina: During that whole moment. It was coming up with that plan of like. Okay, you know, the greatest. The best plan is just to do the plan we did already.
Jack: Yes, but backwards. We're gonna. We're gonna backwards our plan and go back to. Because whatever logic suggests we can. Now we're gonna jump back to the moat. We're just choosing. If we close our eyes and go really fast, we can imagine.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's like Death Note.
Cristina: You.
Jack: When you write the name, you have to think of the face of the person, not just your name.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So when you time travel, you have to. All you have to do is think of where you want to go.
Cristina: Yeah. But they're not even realizing, like, they're going to a reality where the dog is alive. They're not even thinking about that.
Jack: No, that was the whole plan. No, that was. The whole plan was to go back to the moment they came from.
Cristina: Okay. With the dog still alive.
Jack: Well, no, they didn't even think about that part.
Cristina: That's what I'm saying.
Jack: They were just like, we're going back to that previous moment.
Cristina: Yes. And then luckily the dog is alive there. Like they weren't even thinking about the dog. And the dog was there.
Jack: Yes, But I guess this also means. Oh, no. But their family came with them from that reality.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So their family is still dead because their family traveled back to the previous reality.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: With them. So they died back there. And then they jumped forward and couldn't bring them back because they were dead. And they left from this place. So that they're gone.
Cristina: Yeah, they're dead.
Jack: So it's now just the original people. The dog. And John Wick shows up. And then the dog is like, no, I'm still here. And he explains to them what happened. Happened.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which I guess technically means they did accomplish the dog's mission.
Cristina: Yeah. They saved the John Wick. Yeah. That's why he doesn't want them to John Wick to kill them.
Jack: Yeah. But this is fire. Because their solution wasn't originally to bring John Wick back It was to save John Wick back then.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But they had to run away from John Wick. He followed them and he brought them to the original dog instead of just saving it and seeing that dog be with John Wick. But that dog died, actually. So he couldn't even be with John Wick. No, John Wick followed him back in the movie. So their plan must have been actually. Because this couldn't have been by accident. They always know what they're doing.
Cristina: It was Dom. He just kept it as a secret.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: To surprise everyone. Like, he knew.
Jack: He always knew.
Cristina: He knew.
Jack: He knew.
Cristina: Yes. Him and a dog wink at each other.
Jack: Yes. Whatever was in the briefcase might have been related. But they're only gonna hint at that possibility. Yes, somehow.
Cristina: And then they have one more dinner.
Jack: Where John Wick is at the table. We see his car. His. Because he also has a cool car.
Cristina: He also.
Jack: So now we see John. All the original cars.
Cristina: Drives to the party in the cool car, gets out. And then we see the tattoo on his. On his fist.
Jack: No, it's on his arm like everybody else because he's a family member. So everybody's car is there. And it looks. We don't even see them make friends at this point. We just. We're just wondering, oh, my God. Did he or did he not? So we're at the dinner with the cool shot of the cars on the outside. And we're zooming in slowly. We're, like, floating way far away from the neighborhood, slowly getting closer to the house. We're hearing them like we're there already, talking and having fun. We know it's dinner. We can hear plates and forks and somebody said past the something. But we're not. We're not close up yet. We're zooming into the house, see the lights on. We can hear the.
Cristina: Are there any funerals in this movie already?
Jack: Well, maybe. No, no, no. We don't. We can assume it happened.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We can assume it happened. We got these two and a half hours in the bag. We're good.
Cristina: Okay. No funeral.
Jack: No funeral.
Cristina: They mention about the people they lose, though.
Jack: They do a toast in this very.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Very dinner.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And does the. The shot keeps getting closer to the house. We see all the cool cars. We're like, oh, cool. No John Wick. And we're getting closer, like we're about to go all the way in. And then a car cuts the camera off. The camera backs up a little. Ooh, John Wick's car. He was just late. He did become part of the family.
Cristina: But we don't really know. Is John the Wick's car? It's just a really cool car.
Jack: No, it's a John Wick's car.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: That's why it matters that he rolled up. Because we're like, oh my God, is that John Wick's car? And then he gets out and the first thing we see. And the dog tattoo on his arm. And the dog has the tattoo on his arm.
Cristina: Weird. Okay. I think it would be on his collar or something.
Jack: Oh, crap. Maybe. Yeah, that. I guess that would make more sense. He just has a collar with the thing on it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because they're both part of the family.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they walk in and then we hear. We know the credits start rolling. We don't even see this dinner yet. This credits start rolling because at the very end after credit moment, we get the toast and we see them all together and John Wick at the table with the dog. That's the end credit scene.
Cristina: Yes. And they're eating their dinner with like the photos of the dead crew.
Jack: Yes. On their own chairs. Each photo has its own chair and its own plate.
Cristina: Yes. Disturbing, but beautiful.
Jack: Beautiful story. Beautiful. Movie credits done.
Cristina: Should we still call it to fv?
Jack: Yes, because there was a lot of fighting and murder going on. So it's definitely. Yeah. 2F VW.
Cristina: Beautiful.
Jack: Beautiful.
Cristina: This is a great movie. I can't wait to see it.
Jack: This is fantastic.
Cristina: Who would want to see this movie?
Jack: Everybody would want to see this movie. It only makes sense that this movie would exist. Yes. Anyways. Anyways, I'm glad that we have established that this movie is amazing and exactly how it would unfold. The right way.
Cristina: Yes, the right way. We didn't put any pigeons in the movie. I feel like we needed some pigeons.
Jack: Well, no. In his chase for these people where he was being misled and when they were planning. He was also at some points talking to random people working in garbage, which means he also communicated with homeless people with pigeons.
Cristina: Okay. Closer to the right.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Warehouse. Okay.
Jack: Some people misled him, others got him closer.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Anywho. Anywho. Great. But we are way over time. So if you guys want to tell us how we can improve on this.
Cristina: Movie, or if you want to make.
Jack: This movie, or if you want to make this movie. If you want to make this movie, I'll direct it. If you want to direct it, please direct it. If you're a director who wants to make this, like, give me royalties.
Cristina: Yeah. Just mention us.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Say. Say you stole the idea. But listen, contact us to steal it on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, usConvopod.
Cristina: And remember to subscribe, rate and review the show if you haven't already.
Jack: Yes, and word of mouth. Go out to the streets and scream. Scream the name of the street show so that everybody hears it and knows what you are talking about.
Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye bye. But then that gives us a doorway into like how, why? What's the connection? There's some connection between Costa Rica, Russia and Greece. And we already know there's a billion connections between Russia and Greece, but we just found some random, particularly strange connection between Greece, Russia and Costa Rica. A one off. Absolutely strange. Nobody knows where they came from. Nobody knows who made them. These civilizations were completely different. One of them is in an island in South America. There's no way anybody in Greece or Russia could have ever in a billion years encountered these people and still have the same thing, the same size, in the same areas of. Of abandoned meadows. What the h***? How? And they don't even know what the h*** these fears were for.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.
