Rambling 218: Protecting The Garden of Eden
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What exactly was the Garden of Eden? What was the purpose of protecting it? And who was in charge of protecting it? The duo continue to unravel the massive cover-up done by the Catholic Church in their attempt to protect the Sea People and the Garden of Eden.
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. The most baffling, baffling ideas that have ever baffled any idea that could be baffled. It's so baffling. You're baffled.
Cristina: They're baffling ideas. The ideas are baffling.
Jack: The ideas are baffled. They're like, what are we? No. We have been in the Unescaping series that began at a unicorn, led through Atlantis and landed us at. Jesus Christ.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Whoa. And it's not like we are just talking about random, unrelated crap. All of this is the same story.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: All of it works together.
Cristina: It's a very messy story.
Jack: Yeah, it's. It's one thing. There's nothing else happening. It's all one thing. It's different sides of the same one thing.
Cristina: But it's an incomplete story.
Jack: Highly. There's so many pieces missing. There's so many pieces missing. So let's recap where we've landed. We've discussed unicorns. We've discussed Atlantis. We've discussed Mount Athos. We've discussed Mary's journey. Mary's journey. The Persian Gulf oasis, the sea people. We've discussed Jesus Christ. We've discussed the Catholic Church. So how does it all fit together? It starts with way back about a million years ago.
Cristina: That's way back.
Jack: Way back. That's when actually we can go farther back. Depending on what episode we pick, we can go 2.5 million years ago. Tools come to exist by some completely unrelated race of creatures that are similar bipedal somethings, but not the same as the ones that would later become H*** sapiens. Okay, sweet. Somehow we kill them because we speak they tool.
Cristina: We killed them.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. We probably think, do you know what's crazy? That's probably the lineage that led to the sea people.
Cristina: Exactly. Like, they don't have to be human at all.
Jack: Yeah. So in theory, those tools, I mean, that happened mad long ago versus our language that happened a hundred thousand years ago. Tells you the huge gap of difference if we actually use the logic you're applying here. They probably had language 2.5 million years ago when they made those tools. And then we, the H*** sapiens, because we know for a fact those weren't H*** sapiens of any sort. They did not lead to H*** sapiens. They are not from the homogeneous. So h*** sapiens got language and tools afterwards, about a hundred thousand years ago. There's a huge colossal difference of when this other group of people got to make their civilization. So these people presumably become, a million years ago, the sea people. And the sea, they're not fish or anything, they just kind of look like humans. In theory, we don't really know. But the idea is they're kind of humanoid and normal looking.
Cristina: Yeah, we're assuming they're very human looking, not fish at all.
Jack: Special somehow. So the sea people a million years ago reached their technological peak, the one necessary for all future endeavors. They then devised this crazy plan that they go in for whatever reason that we don't know this is one of the answers we don't have, that they decided to align civilizations and give them technology and knowledge to advance rapidly.
Cristina: But all the ones that were around them in like on Earth.
Jack: Yes, in one line circle. In one perfectly straight line circling Earth that we call the old equator.
Cristina: Okay, very strange.
Jack: The sea people did this? Yeah, the sea people gave them the technology. And we can prove this because the on the walls of the Mayans, they're not on the equator. And of the Egyptians who are on the equator, they have the, they have data, they have hieroglyphs that suggest that beneath these locations there are not only the instructions given to them by the sea people on how to build these civilizations and what technologies to use, but also the sea people's personal records. Fantastic. So why do the sea people give them personal records? We don't know yet. But if we go farther back, so we go after the sea people but before they gave the technology, we get about 2,000 years ago, actually we got to go about 7,000 years ago. 7,000 years ago, a technology for populating Earth comes to be in the case of a catastrophe or maybe to go populate different planets, creating a seeding event similar to how happened in alien Prometheus where they go and they drop their seeds.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Oh wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. Holy crap.
Cristina: Wait, they were doing this on Earth?
Jack: Well, maybe Earth was just one of them. Maybe Earth was just one of them. And maybe the goal was to do this over and over in a bunch of different places. So this technology to populate, I mean Earth could have been the first one. Think about the logic here. They use this technology that they call this population technology that creates sentient bipedal life in their image, but they're just. It's just science, but they do it in their image. The technology is called The Garden of.
Cristina: Eden, Is that what we're calling it?
Jack: That's the technology. And in it there are two separate components. There is a tree of life that provides a physical form in the bipedal image of the sea people. And there is the fruit of knowledge that then gives them brain and consciousness in a similar fashion and then allows these creatures to develop further. So it is in fact possible that both evolution and did exist and we did not come from those creatures.
Cristina: Maybe we are made from those.
Jack: We were made instantly in our forms. That's also possibility here. But because we do have evolution and we can track it, I guess that's the least likely possibility. So chances are this population technology creates creatures that will, with enough time, become.
Cristina: What we are today.
Jack: What we are today. So chances are that happened millions and millions and millions and millions of years ago. Because we only know that the sea people reached their peak necessary for this technology a million years ago. Or not necessary for the technology. The peak necessary for creating the societies. But they could have had this Garden of Eden population technology existing. And if they're that technologically advanced a million years ago, that means maybe significantly longer ago, maybe long enough ago that they put the single celled organisms that would later become us in the ocean. Maybe those are the sea people.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Maybe the sea people put the cells that would later become humans in the ocean.
Cristina: Okay, so you're saying they started life here? Besides that they were already the first life here. They started.
Jack: They started the life we're aware of. Yes, because dino, we're not related to every dinosaur. No, we're not related to. You know, this is a far break off point. Unless if they did evolve here, and they are there must be, I guess it would make sense, right? It would need to be some logical, far enough ancestor that would connect us to the sea people. It's the only f****** way.
Cristina: If they didn't make us.
Jack: If they didn't make us. Unless the sea people are just so it. They would be so astounding. I guess that would. That's why we couldn't find them. Now they're so unbelievably advanced that when they decided we're gonna hide, they really meant we're never finding them.
Cristina: Yes. Why is hiding important?
Jack: I don't know. Hopefully we get there.
Cristina: Okay, but.
Jack: So the sea people create this technology, the Garden of Eden. They have five main people working on this project. They are in charge of maintaining project, they are in charge of protecting this project.
Cristina: You know these people, the people are.
Jack: A scientist named Adam, a scientist Named Eve. A scientist that we only know by a code name. Serpent, Jehovah and Lilith. These are our four scientists. Project leader is Jehovah.
Cristina: Claude, there were five.
Jack: Well, there's five. It's Lilith, Jehovah, Serpent, Adam and Eve.
Cristina: Oh, you said four.
Jack: Jehovah is in charge and the other four.
Cristina: Oh, okay, okay.
Jack: Are beneath him.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: I don't know. They're. Because structure. Out of all the questions we have no answers for, that's the one you're concerned with? There is power structure. I don't know why.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Somebody needs to be project leader.
Cristina: Keep him out of the garden.
Jack: Who?
Cristina: Or he's not the same guy.
Jack: He poo out of the garden.
Cristina: One of the gods.
Jack: We're assuming there is a good and a bad and.
Cristina: Okay. And he's not that one.
Jack: Well, I don't know because I know what you're talking about. We have the narrative of the two gods, and one of them completely lied and suppressed a bunch of information and then he was the one over the sea people.
Cristina: So they're trying to get in there and that's why they have that whole storm of cloud people above them helping them out.
Jack: Interesting. So they're actually hiding it from that God. Oh, my God. And that would explain the apocalyptic event we're looking for. Okay, let me get there. Okay, you've told me a lot. Now we've got it. Okay, so the sea people have the garden in the garden. There is project leader Jehovah, there is code name Jehovah, there is codename Serpent, there is Lilith, there is Adam, and there is is Eve. Project leaders, okay. Some conflict happens and we have Lilith leave. Some conflict happens and Adam and Eve are removed from the project immediately. And in that same moment, Serpent becomes only an advisor and no longer has hands on everybody. But Jehovah was removed from the project. Obviously this was Jehovah's call because he's the only one who stayed. Okay. Presumably all these people are citizens of the sea people. They are the sea people, but the sea people are somehow so advanced, they're godly at this point. They're beyond us in a way we cannot comprehend. They peaked a million years ago in a way we could not understand. So right now, it would be so unfathomably, A million years later, it would be so unfathomably exaggerated.
Cristina: So it's not about protecting Adam and Eve, it's about protecting these trees.
Jack: Well, the garden. Yeah. I don't think Adam and Eve have. Because they were. They're not even there. They're probably in the city, they're probably in Atlantis. But they're not in the garden. They're not allowed in this project anymore. So Jehovah gets rid of them. And the project is my. Okay, my theory is the project is being protected by the entirety of the sea people. They take care of the garden. That's the point. They know about it. This is a scientific miracle. It needs to be taken care of. Everybody's on board with this. No matter what is the most important thing the garden? The repopulation technology. Okay, okay, weird. There's repopulation technology because who knows, there's a catastrophe already coming. But also repopulation technology or simply population technology makes sense if you're a civilization that's hyper advanced. And what are you gonna. You can go around and drop things here and there. Maybe they came from this planet, but maybe they're going elsewhere.
Cristina: That's why this makes it so important.
Jack: To create life, I guess, to leave their seeds and create life in the universe. Be the ultimate gods. Create a universe with life with this technology of population called the Garden of Eden that contains two very important features known as a Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. Beautiful, okay, but 5,000 years ago is when Adam and Eve get kicked out and when Lilith leaves and when serpent is turned into a counselor and when Jehovah is the only one left working on this project. That's about 7,000 years ago, five to 7,000 years ago. And following that, we have a record that starts being built by people in. This is the first important records being kept by people in the regions around the sea people. So, you know, they start to take note of any time they get mentioned somewhere by these other developing creatures that are from Earth too. And they seem quite curious and interested in anything that has to do with the Garden of Eden. These people become obsessed with this technology.
Cristina: The people who are watching them or.
Jack: The people who are watching the sea people, okay, now the sea people live. The sea people live in Iran in a specific area known as the Persian Gulf, specifically the Persian Gulf oasis. And the Persian Gulf Oasis is where their city is located. Now, very close to the Persian Gulf oasis are a bunch of Middle Eastern countries, many of which are the biblical Middle Eastern countries. Kind of all of them are around Iran, okay, Persia. And these people around the Persian Gulf oasis kind of are obsessed with the people of the Persian Gulf oasis. These creatures beyond us, but very similar to us. Some of some people call them angels, some people call them gods. Everybody has a story for these really awesome adventures. Advanced Race of technologically advanced creatures. Sweet. They're super humanoid, they look like us, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fantastic. So then we have the sea people getting kind of. We're gonna change your name now. They are the people of the Persian Gulf oasis. So the people of the Persian Gulf oasis are quite annoyed with this, but they're like, whatever. Except once in a while, the people surrounding the Persian Gulf oasis want to invade and want to do s***. Now, they're easy to dispose of. It's easy to stop these conflicts, but it's consistent. Now, there is a moment when an individual from the Persian Gulf oasis gets impregnated. This is Mary.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So Mary gets pregnant, and she actually. Let's take it back. For the last 5,000 years, something happened with this project, by the way. There's something weird about this project.
Cristina: It not only does. Okay.
Jack: Not only populates the Earth, but kind of following the creation of this. Immediately following the creation of this project, something happened. Yes, the project works. Yes, it's going to repop. Yes, it's going to populate wherever we want. This population technology is crazy. But also, ever since we made the population technology, people keep having visions of this population technology either leading to the birth of somebody special or a glitch. Oh. Because it's technology, something could go wrong. These are. Even if they are biological, they're science biological, they're engineered. So if they sped up the process of evolution, because again, they gave a bunch of civilizations technology in order to make them move quicker. So they were interfering here and there with primitive cultures and making them move faster.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So if they chose one went there and decided to mess with their genes to make them better, faster, stronger, smarter.
Cristina: Maybe something went wrong there to one of the populations.
Jack: Yeah. And the population led to this child that somehow people started to have visions immediately following the creation of the program. So one of the test subjects lineage something just through time, straight up. Man, time travel sucks. They did something that affected one of the subjects. And in the future, this subject is some telepath or something. I don't know. And people start having visions and dreams and hallucinations about an individual born from the Persian Gulf oasis.
Cristina: Yes, that's Jesus.
Jack: That's Jesus. So the people of the Persian Gulf oasis take note. And they're like, this is a problem. We got to take all the visions we find and start to collect them and find out, pinpoint exactly who, what, where, when, why, and how so that we can solve this problem and solving.
Cristina: It by just, like, moving the problem.
Jack: Somewhere else so that people don't try to get to the kid and the people don't try to get to the kid. That they don't find the technology that they're trying to protect, that people are.
Cristina: Already obsessed with kid is more important than the kid.
Jack: Nobody cares about the kid. You just don't need to follow the kid because the kid will lead you to the technology. Okay, Nobody cares about the kid. The kid is not important. Now, if you are a God in Olympus, how special are you?
Cristina: I don't know. Not very special.
Jack: It's very special. You're God in Olympus. Everybody's a God in Olympus.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But if you're a God from Olympus on Earth, how special are you?
Cristina: So you're saying that's what Jesus is or something?
Jack: He's somebody from the Persian Gulf oasis who gets kicked out of the Persian Gulf oasis. He is quite special. Interesting, right?
Cristina: That would mean his parents are too.
Jack: I believe so. I believe that when they calculate when this is gonna happen, they find exactly who it is. And it becomes obvious when there is a genetic glitch that allows this individual to get pregnant without a fertilized egg. There was a glitch, and that is Mary. So there is a secret group, a secret society of highly sophisticated intelligent individuals called the Magi that exists within the Persian Gulf oasis. These are elite individuals. They are to take care of Mary because she is kicked out of the Persian Gulf oasis. There are three that are sent out with her to watch over her at a distance, never interfere with her. She doesn't know where they are, she doesn't know who they are, she doesn't know about them. Also, people from the Persian Gulf occasionally come and message Mary to the point that they even tell her when she's about to give birth. They come in a vision that somebody sees. Not in a vision really, but the person who sees one of these people from the Persian Gulf oasis presented themselves to Mary in some almost angelic way because it was technology they couldn't fathom. He flew down from the sky. Hovering or something.
Cristina: Yeah. And really writing. What is it? Pegasus.
Jack: Pegasus and stuff? Yeah. So he just saw some white man whistling thing come down and a man is there and he says there's by the way, they're spying on Joseph and Mary, right? They're like, oh, see if they f*** while she's pregnant or something. I don't know why they're spying, but they see the thing and they're like, we saw. And then they wrote it down like this is what Happened. So they see what they describe as. He came to her in a vision and told her that she's gonna have a kid on this day. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, okay, whatever. It's really the people of Persian Gulf Oasis. And so the Maji, one of them has been with her the whole time. When Mary got removed from the Persian Gulf oasis, so that people wouldn't try to find the kid that they're having visions of, they sent her out with an individual known as Joseph. Joseph was to protect her directly. He's gonna escort her on her journey. She's been sent to go.
Cristina: Why is he a magic. Why?
Jack: Because he's a protector. The same way the other three guys are.
Cristina: Okay. Because now there's. He's one of the three, or he's. No, the whole different one.
Jack: Yes, he's a whole different one. Maji is a group of people.
Cristina: Okay? Okay.
Jack: It's not just three guys. The. The Manji are just protectors. They're watchers. That's their goal.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Joseph, just like. My assumption is Joseph, just like. The Manji hasn't ever interfered or interacted with anything. He always was present, but he never interacted. He was a supervisor, in a way. So Mary gets kicked out. She gets sent to one of the Manji. She doesn't. Again, these people don't know who these people are. She just gets told, oh, yeah, we got a regular civilian here is gonna help you or whatever on your quest because you can't be here. This is why. She understands. She gets them. She gets the mission. She understands the job.
Cristina: She knows her child's was chosen.
Jack: Yeah. Not really the chosen one, but the glitched child. She knows she got pregnant without.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, she's like, crap. And then he. The. The people explain this because of our genetic f****** around. So, like, something weird happened. You just got pregnant. So they remove her from the Persian Gulf oasis. She goes on her journey. She gets to Nazareth, escorted by Joseph. Then there's a conflict there. Joseph is like, we cannot go in that direction. It is too lethal. We. They go to Bethlehem. The goal was originally to get to Cyprus, where there's presumably either a way to get directly to Mount Athos, some portal, some. Something that they do, some technological wonder. And she is to have the baby at Cyprus and keep the baby there until these people either stop giving a crap or until they can solve the problem and move their civilization entirely to the next location and then they can accept them again.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Simple.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So the idea was, go to Cyprus, be there until we finish moving the civilization and take the portal that's going to take you straight to Mount Athos. Then you can go up to the top and we're going to escort you from there to our new location. So they kick her out and they immediately begin a mass evacuation of the.
Cristina: Persian Gulf oasis where they just somehow.
Jack: Somehow they abandoned. Well, they didn't take everything literally.
Cristina: No.
Jack: But they took the technology known as the Garden of Eden. They moved their entire civilization and they just left their. Obviously their buildings and their statues and stuff like that, but all the technology left with them. There were some writings that were left behind because they were written on things. You know, people like to write things. So sometimes they just. We can't take the wall with us. So. Yeah, f****** Steve who always draws on the wall is an a******.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And so crap like that has to stay. So they leave and they go to what we know now as the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of the Bermuda Triangle, to a space that they now call Atlantis.
Cristina: Yes, the Atlanteans are the Atlanteans.
Jack: Now let's change our perspective. We are with Mary. Mary goes from the Persian Gulf oasis to Nazareth, from Nazareth to Bethlehem because of the conflict, while escorted by Joseph, one of the Magi, she has the baby in Bethlehem because the detour took absolutely too long. The other Magi then show themselves to her, three of them, and they say, this is not according to plan. Everything has gone out of control. So you cannot leave because people will know of this child. And if the time it would take us to get the h*** out of here is too problematic. People are already on their way because their visions have guided them in this direction. The glitch that this is causing, this telepathic child from the future is sending them visions of a bunch of crap. This is way problematic. So we cannot go. They'll be able to. If we leave now, the future changes. That means where he is is gonna send the messages he needs to be. That's the logic. That's why she couldn't go back. He needs to be somewhere that.
Cristina: Where he grows up.
Jack: Where he grows up when he's sending the telepathic messages that's giving them visions so that they find him there and not where the sea people are.
Cristina: He can never be there.
Jack: He can never be there. Jesus can never go to where the sea people are because they will find them. Because he is inevitably sending some sort of frequency telepathic messages coming to the past. Actually in the future too. Straight through time. Oh, that's the problem.
Cristina: Yes. It is straight to that.
Jack: People of the future will also be able to find us.
Cristina: Yeah. Wow.
Jack: You can never come here. Your child is never gonna come here.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So she's aware of this? She was told that, but she didn't know the Maji were watching her. That's how serious this was. She sees the Maji, she's like, oh. Oh, d***. Oh, d***. It was the Manji type of serious. And you're like, yes, it was the Maji type of serious. And then Joseph takes off his mask and it's just his face again.
Cristina: And he says, I'm one too.
Jack: I'm one too. Yeah. He takes off his fake face and it's just his face again. I'm one too. And she's like, whoa, dude.
Cristina: What does that mean to her, though?
Jack: I don't know. Something happens to Joseph, though. He's just like, vanishes.
Cristina: He just vanishes?
Jack: Yeah, it's really weird. But anyways, so do the Manji, to be fair. It's like, they tell her, like, the thing, and then he's deuces.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yeah, it's really weird. So anyways, the Maji and Joseph presumably make the following plan. This is where we're staying. This region is our region. Our people have to evacuate, and then we can never even go there. And also, we cannot go where they go. We're just. We gotta wait. We gotta outlast this child. Actually, we're probably gonna die out here and never see our people again. The end. We're probably all gonna die out here and never see our people again. Simple.
Cristina: Yes. Which happens. Maybe. Except for Murray.
Jack: Yeah, well, no, not really. He only dies at 33. Like, they're all pretty.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true.
Jack: So they have the kid. The kid is raised in ignorance.
Cristina: Yeah, well, he.
Jack: He has ideas.
Cristina: He has. He knows he's special because everybody around.
Jack: Him can't help but tell him. Yeah, everybody knows that's a f****** Atlantean.
Cristina: That's what they know.
Jack: Yeah, that's basically not literally those words, but, you know, he's that level of special. He's from the other place, but they.
Cristina: Can also sense him from their dreams.
Jack: Yes. The people who don't know him from their dreams directly, who never had the telepathic messages that he can't help but send.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Just know where he's from, and that's cool enough. Oh, whoa. It's a guy from the place. And inevitably he like, how do you stop this kid from being full of himself?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: He knows. He's basically Zeus raised on Earth. He's like, I'm cooler, better, faster, smarter than everything I'll ever encounter.
Cristina: Yes. And he decides to become a teacher.
Jack: a teacher. He becomes a carpenter. Until he's 30. Until he's 30. When the Magi reveal themselves to him.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: When the Manji reveal their selves to him. They explain your existence. Kind of messed up, bro. There are people ready to wage war over you. This is like our, our fault.
Cristina: Why do you think they talk to him?
Jack: I have no idea. Well, I guess maybe to stop the damage they f****** made.
Cristina: But does he change at his dirty or something that would make you think that?
Jack: Yeah. Okay, so they show up and they start talking to him and they tell him, you know, this is a problem that we have here because you know, there's people, everybody's obsessed with you. Whether they hate you, cuz all the gods, you bastards. Or the gods all worship the gods. But like both sides don't like each other. As you know, these humans have this problem that anything that could be. They have to fight about everything. Anything, they'll fight about all of it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And you're here. So just because you're here, there are two sides to you being here. Some like you, some don't like you. And they can't just like you. And not like, you know, they have to kill themselves.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we gotta fix this and try to like adjust to damage control. Cuz if we. Our goal was to make these people come up and we're kind of destroying that now. You know, the Egyptians doing great, the Mayans a. Okay. The entire area we come from is turning to s*** though. Not cool. This is totally our fault. This is a failed project because you're here. So they do anything you say. Both sides in different ways. So we need you to start controlling the narrative, bro. We need you to start telling them what you want them to believe. The ones who are going to just listen to you tell them what you want them to believe. And your job is really, really to convince the ones who hate you to be like the ones who love you so that then you could advance this civilization as a whole. That's the goal.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: You now have purpose because you're already here. And there's no way you're going to.
Cristina: Know where we live to make some peace. Yeah, they're going to tell him you got to go kill yourself.
Jack: No, no, no.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Probably would have been a really good solution to the problem.
Cristina: I mean like he dies immediately after. Either way, whether that was part of the plan or not, the.
Jack: The problem is they should have offed him as soon as he was born. That should have been Joseph's only objective. Be convincingly a reliable, loving, caring maji caretaker. And then the second that baby shows up, he pulls out a f****** gun and blows that kid's brains out. So that the Persian. Not even the Persian. So the sea people are safe.
Cristina: I don't know. Because if these visions are important, you can't do that.
Jack: They're not. It's just telepathic messages.
Cristina: Yeah, but the telepathic message might show Joseph killing baby Jesus as part.
Jack: They don't give a s*** who Joseph is. I don't even. They'll never know who he is. It's just a vision of that happening and nothing beyond that point.
Cristina: There has to be a reason.
Jack: He could just go live in the Persian Gulf oasis. I mean, in this. Wherever the. In Atlantis now. But wherever the sea people go. He could just go there and never be bothered. What, like why? It doesn't matter.
Cristina: Why did it matter? Exactly. But why didn't they just kill him off as a baby?
Jack: I don't know. I'm just saying that, like, that would have been 100% the best option. Then you just stop the visions.
Cristina: A better option?
Jack: Yeah, don't kill one of ours. Probably just like send them out there and it's fine.
Cristina: I don't know. Because it feels like they wanted the whole church thing too.
Jack: No, that was damage control.
Cristina: That's damage control?
Jack: Yeah. So we have Jesus. That's way ahead. We have Jesus and he gets approached by the maji. And then they tell him to control the narrative. And he does. He agrees. I'm gonna control the narrative. So then he decides, you know, I'm gonna build a team of people. My 12 homies. And we're gonna figure this out, guys. And so they don't. They absolutely don't. It's an absolute failure. And the war gets worse. And the people who hate him, hate him more. And the people who love him, love him more. Total confusion, total chaos. Blood in the streets. Whoa. And on top of it, he gets murdered in the exchange too. Well, sweet. Now, science. Somebody gives this guy juuust as he's about to die some adrenochrome. Know how somebody. We're already talking scientifically advanced civilizations. It could have been Joseph, because Joseph disappears out of the blue. And Joseph was real close to Mary, and Joseph was real close to young Jesus.
Cristina: Own plans with Jesus, that's.
Jack: We don't know. He disappeared. I'm Just totally theorizing and making this funner. I don't know where he came from, but somebody gave Jesus adrenochrome, bro. How did that happen? Yeah, that's a fact.
Cristina: He just mean. But that would make sense of why they didn't kill him as a baby. If they're gonna do that, you don't want a baby on it.
Jack: They weren't gonna do that. That was not the plan. The plan of the sea people is not adrenochrome. If anybody doesn't mess with adrenochrome, it's a sea people. They wouldn't need to. It makes no sense.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: They did not do that 100%. It wasn't them. No, they did not do that.
Cristina: But the churches definitely do.
Jack: The church did not exist yet.
Cristina: No, but they come from Jesus.
Jack: Yes. All of that is the future. We're talking the time of Jesus right now. Yeah, Somebody gave Jesus adrenochrome. See, it was probably somebody close to him that didn't want him to die. It could have been Mary his mom, actually. Was probably Mary his mom.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yeah, fair enough. It was probably Mary his mom. Because the sea people were like, just. Just let him die, bro. This is. We. We tried. We tried and he tried. You know, we will give him a nice clap. He tried. He tried. But he also kind of let it get to his head a little too. So he was kind of like. He was just like the humans kind of in between, where he's like, oh, yeah, I'm the son of God. And also, like, you know, peace. People like, bro, don't try to have both your cake and eat it too. But he did. And so they're like, look, noble, try. We could easily save him, but that would require our interaction. F*** him. Let him die. It is what it is.
Cristina: I don't know. Because, like, if she did do it, she gave him the adrenochrome, then he did help her get to that mountain.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: And they were cool with that. They were.
Jack: Why would they know that?
Cristina: Why would they know that?
Jack: Yes. Why would they know that? He helped them. He helped her.
Cristina: Wouldn't they know? I feel like they have the technology to know to just spy on him. If they're spying on her. If the whole time they're spying on her.
Jack: They're not spying on her the whole time. They had the magi out there who.
Cristina: Are spying on her.
Jack: Yeah. Their whole goal was to wash on her, but they weren't directly around her all the time. They weren't Interacting with a bunch of things in a bunch of places.
Cristina: But Joseph was.
Jack: Joseph was with her.
Cristina: I think he just stopped spying on her once Jesus died.
Jack: Well, Jesus is still one of the sea people. He literally has all the abilities the sea people have. They are not special to him. There's nothing they can do that he can't. Naturally. They're just humans to him. Jesus versus the Magi and Joseph. They're all equal.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So there's not. They're not like, whoa, we're super awesome gods. And that's just Jesus. No, he's. He still, like, a sea person. So they don't have. In fact, he's better. He's somehow telepathic. There's. He can move around them without being caught because he knows everything they're about to do, which is an important piece of his existence. He knows everything. Sidekick is kind of his thing.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Oh. Psychic is really his thing. It was always there. He knows everything. He's the weird one who's kind of psychic and knows all the stuff. And that was the problem. He couldn't control it too well. So the messages went every direction through time.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which also made him incredibly difficult to catch by the sea people. Because he can stop the sea people. Who are also telepathic, I'm assuming. And he's different. Telepathic. He's time telepathic. So he can block. He's like Bella is to Edward. Like, I can stop you guys from, like, reading me.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because the humans never had telepathy. They learned to navigate without that. There was nothing for him to block.
Jack: He couldn't handicap their senses.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The most he could do is jump in their heads. And he couldn't even control them or anything. He'd just send images.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So they f****** killed him.
Cristina: And someone gave him our Adrenoco.
Jack: Yes. Right before. That's one of the questions we have no answer to. We don't know what the reason for the population technology is, but we also don't know the reason for giving Jesus the Adrenochrome. Although we can suspect it was. You know, Let him live, man.
Cristina: Is that good enough?
Jack: I don't know. If it's his mom, maybe. It's totally possible.
Cristina: Yeah. I guess if it's someone that wants his ability for their own working, I guess also.
Jack: Yeah. But I doubt that. I definitely believe it was somebody who just loves him desperately doing it. I don't think there was nefarious. I don't think evil is inherent. I don't think.
Cristina: How does she get it?
Jack: How did questions we don't have the answer to. But we know that he did get it, and we know he comes back to life and we know he becomes a sort of vampire. He reacts the same way a human would. With adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So that's interesting. We're. We're closely related enough for that.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Now s***'s out of control. And this plague of the stories about this child, the visions and everything have become global. He was too strong when they offed him. People everywhere know about him. We can't put this fire out. We can't plug the holes on this boat because another hole just opens the second we do. We need to change the boat.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: Well, let's us change the narrative. So what do they do? They gather all the records that anybody has ever written about the visions of this guy, Jesus, and they start changing, rewriting and editing and composing to create the Bible. The Bible? A book. A book of the truth about this individual, which in reality is just a book dedicated to hiding the existence of the sea people and changing the narrative around Jesus Christ. The telepathic anomaly that was born as a mutation due to sort of genetic science. F****** now. Yes, great. Right, so far, coherent.
Cristina: Yes, great.
Jack: We are fixing the story. We are editing. And in this time, the. The sea people, the maji. Who are the ones doing this, they. They devised the plan. We need to create the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is a collection of all of the already existing Christian writings. That's all the writings of Jesus Christ. Wasn't called Christian yet, but all the writings related to Jesus Christ, his life and anyone surrounding him. We're going to confiscate that from everywhere. These humans, they're no match for our tracking technology. We're getting all of it and we're going to edit it and rewrite it and change it and we're going to present it. It's going to seem very similar to them, but we're going to be like, oh, no, no, this is the truth.
Cristina: This is the Catholic Church.
Jack: You said the Catholic Church is going to do that. So the Catholic Church does a couple of things. First, we're going to create Catholicism. What does that mean? One of Jesus closest homies. We're going to need him, Peter. Tell him the truth, all the truth, and explain to him why he had those visions of Jesus first. Because Jesus put them together. He knew he was trying to damage control and that's why he got his homies together. So now you need to tell Peter about us. Not just the visions, not just the abilities that he has that he was trying to do.
Cristina: The one that starts this church or something.
Jack: Peter's the first Pope.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And the first pope is the first leader of the Catholic Church.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah. So they know that all of his homies were involved in trying to help the narrative, but none of their homies know about the truth, the biggest truth. This. The sea people. That's a secret, no matter what.
Cristina: So tell him, or they don't have that part.
Jack: Tell Peter that part. Tell Peter about that part. And they tell him. Look, we're gonna give you the. You know these people, and this is what the truth is. And we need your help. We're going to give you some of our tech, some of our abilities. And these men here, these are the wise men, the magi. They are quite intelligent, quite capable individuals with abilities you can comprehend. They're going to assist you. You are the leader here. We're putting you in charge.
Cristina: They're going to just.
Jack: They're helping. Now, Peter also decides as part of his power and authority, how am I going to gather? Because one of the tasks he's given is gather all the data, gather all the information. They give you the tech to find it all. Now it's your job to go get it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he builds the Knights Templar, a militia, a military that is the right hand of the Church.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Their job is to go confiscate anything he finds with this technology and tells them it's over there. Go get it. Okay, this one is over here. Go get it. And they're gonna go get the data.
Cristina: And they destroy the data, though. Or they just collect it.
Jack: They collect it and hide it.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They give it to the church. They grab it all and they hide and they give it to church. But the. When they confiscate the data, they leave behind the altered version because they can just see what it is with the technology. They're like, oh, this is what's there. So we're gonna get that and we're gonna leave this version there. Changing things when they can. They can't do it all the time. Sometimes it's just an item that just, you know, we can't have the visual here, so let's take that. Items that might have some residual abilities or technologies because it's from the sea people, that kind of stuff. Okay, now they go ahead. They confiscate these things, they create this comprehensive book, and they. They alter the narrative.
Cristina: That's a go.
Jack: A lot of these things happen to be Stored in Mount Athos. All another bunch are underneath some of the holy locations in Italy, of course. And so all of this is established and Mary, now with her child, quote, dead, decides to go back to the sea people because she's no longer with her child. So there is no risk of them getting visions of her child in the future or in the past of the child being in this location. So she goes by herself, goes to Cyprus where the portal is, pops up in Mount Athos and goes up to the top of Mount Athos, presumably on the Unicorn, and gets to the rendezvous point where she is then picked up by the sea people who stop by this location regularly already without identifying themselves and trade with the locals.
Cristina: But then the whole Jesus being man, mentioning Jesus is confusing me. Like he wasn't a vampire before he died, even though he was doing something.
Jack: No, he was a vampire before he died.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But it was kind of like he.
Cristina: Had adrenochrome before his death.
Jack: Fascinating. Maybe he found adrenochrome himself around 30 after he was told these things. Maybe that was the drug back then. Maybe that's why so many people had weird abilities.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Maybe people were just doing adrenochrome because.
Cristina: It feels like he was doing adrenochrome. Okay.
Jack: Also, like, Dracula's pretty old, like thousands of years old. It kind of checks out. Yeah. Maybe that was just a drug back then. There was a bunch of. A bunch of vampires everywhere. It's kind of. Right. So that's the narrative that I believe is happening as of now. Details that matter. The book has been modified a crap ton of times.
Cristina: Mm. Does everyone know that?
Jack: Yeah. So the original Jewish Bible only had 39 books. The Roman Catholic Bible had 73. The Greek Orthodox Bible 79. The Protestant Bible has 66. That's the most commonly used in the United States. And the Ethiopian Bible has 84.
Cristina: A lot of books.
Jack: But out of all the scriptures, there are 263 official ones. So most books don't have the majority of them. They're not included. They are just told. It's not for the public eye.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That is the Catholic church at work. That is the knights at work. Now, over the last 170 years, additional writings have been found in both Africa and Eastern Asia, written provably by the original authors featured in the Bible. Except it would change a narrative that has been established. So they do not get included in the Bible in any of them. None of them. But writings have been found written by the original authors provably.
Cristina: But how are they all the way over there.
Jack: Because that's the same locations. Africa and East Asia is where Israel and the Middle east is. Yeah, that the East Asia is the Middle East.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So they don't want to do anything with that. But they have those.
Jack: They have those. They've been as they've been found. They've also been confiscated and stored. So, yes, the, the, the suppression movement at work. Things we know about the Garden of Eden, Just things. These are all just things to fact check. Some of these story points. The Garden of Eden in the Bible is hinted towards being in the Persian Gulf, which means the first mention was. And the visions are coming from this situation.
Cristina: Makes sense.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Now, while Mary was in the Persian Gulf oasis, the visions allowed people to see, even if it was thousands of years in the past. They saw the Persian Gulf oasis because the child was to be there. But as Jesus is about to be born, as Mary is actually pregnant, they can control the situation and send her out. Now the visions alter so that visions of this no longer happen. Nobody in the future has a vision of the Garden of Eden and nobody has a vision of the child ever being in the Garden of Eden.
Cristina: Yeah, it was just for a very brief moment while the child was there in her tummy.
Jack: Okay, so interesting. So location in the Bible is said to be of the Garden of Eden in the Persian Gulf. Adam ate specifically the Tree of Knowledge. So we know he tampered with the part of the population, technology that works with consciousness and the mind. He did something to that. Maybe he's the reason Jesus happened, because he made the mistake.
Cristina: He made some kind of mistake.
Jack: It's the fruit of knowledge, not the fruit of life. It's the fruit of knowledge. Telepathy is a psychologic sense.
Cristina: Okay, interesting. So Adam, maybe Jesus, maybe or had something to do with that.
Jack: The Bible tells us that Lilith left willingly. Adam and Eve were kicked and the serpent was punished. But the serpent was never said to be kicked out. That is never mentioned. Also, the serpent is never mentioned to be Lucifer or the devil. That is made absolutely clear in a lot of interpretations because nobody really knows what the h*** happened there and why people believe the serpent was the devil. That is never mentioned. In fact, at the time of the writing and for about a thousand years after the concept of the devil had not even come to exist. That enters the Bible quite late because.
Cristina: That'S part of the new part of the Bible.
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: While the serpent was in the old one, where the devil wasn't a thing.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. So it was just The Jews don't believe in the devil.
Cristina: There's no devil.
Jack: There's no devil. That's not a thing.
Cristina: Yeah. There's probably names like Lucifer in the Bible as an angel.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: But not. Yeah, there's no demon. H***.
Jack: So serpent was used several times throughout the Bible to describe different people. And so was devil.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: To describe different people. And so was Satan to describe different people. Although Satan was also used to describe groups.
Cristina: Groups of people.
Jack: Satans. A group of Satans was a thing as well.
Cristina: Were there probably people with Satan as their name as well?
Jack: There's one moment that it looks like a person is referenced to be called Satan. It's not entirely clear who.
Cristina: So it really makes no. Like, he's. They're not calling him like the devil, though.
Jack: Yeah, no, no. All these things, they are not interchangeable.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Weirdly enough, the. Even in these books, in Numbers 22, Satan is described as part of a God's council, an agent of God. So like Satan, the name. Not Lucifer. No, Satan. So Satan describes different people in different instances. There's nothing specific. The devil also does not apply. And the serpent seems to be mentioned exactly only twice in the Bible entirely. Wants to describe a dragon and wants to describe this snake in the garden. Snake in the garden.
Cristina: Is the dragon in a. Is a bad character as well, or neutral?
Jack: It's a dragon. It's not like a sentient being of any sort. Yeah. So the snake is never mentioned as Satan or Lucifer, the devil or anything. It does seem to be some sort of sentient snake. It does seem to be an actual serpent. Like an actual snake is in the garden, which creates an interesting problem. What is it that's happening here? Is the snake a metaphor for a person? Why are you describing the person as a snake? Were they a weasel? Is their behavior Weasley? And so you describe them as a serpent. Is this code? We also gotta keep in mind that the. Is edited as for.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it could just be code. And it was a person. And you're like, oh, the deceiver did this.
Cristina: No, he's a robot.
Jack: No, it could be something created through whatever genetics technology they have that they then use to keep working, which then gives us. Interesting thing. The city people don't need adrenochrome. But what stops the fruits from collectively behaving in a similar fashion? How do we have a snake that is basically Steve the groundhog.
Cristina: Oh, okay. That's.
Jack: What do you see? Some creatures just become sentient.
Cristina: Is it because they're eating those fruits?
Jack: Again, the Fruit is technology. I don't think it's actual fruit. But we can focus on the snake and find out that it has behaviors that adrenochrome would give to some creatures. Yeah, that snake somehow got a hold of adrenochrome.
Cristina: Mmm. How's that possible?
Jack: I don't know. There were other people. They're not the only people. They're just the only people working on the garden. But people exist in general. The sea people are all around them. And they are not even the first sea people. They are just some of the sea people. And they're not even particularly great sea people. They've. They're way down the line. The people have been amazing for millions of years. This only happened 5,000 years ago. Like, they're just whack people.
Cristina: They're using. They might be using adrenochrome.
Jack: Adam and Eve have no special abilities. They are just workers. Lilith did, and she was kind of whacked out. She could have also, all things considered, based on how she eats her children and weird crap like that, that's very vampiric. She, on paper, might actually be a vampire, which seems to happen every time a human takes adrenochrome or anytime a sea person takes adrenochrome. Jesus is an example.
Cristina: Oh, crap.
Jack: Okay, so we have an example of a sea person having taken adrenochrome and having these weird abilities. And then we have Lilith also having the same kind of reminiscent abilities that even Adam doesn't have. She must have taken what the snake had. She probably gave it to the snake.
Cristina: Okay, science.
Jack: Well, she was also, I'm assuming because she was there first, but Adam was then there. And it's like you're to respond to him. And it's like, no, but I'm. I'm the senior here. What the h***? I'm out, bro. You ain't just putting somebody else over me. But maybe she was the risky scientist and that's why you don't want her in charge. And she experimented on herself. Boom. Maybe these people invented adrenochrome as well. Maybe that is just sea people technology.
Cristina: How is the snake not kicked out?
Jack: Well, the snake is just one of the subjects. Not by choice, I guess. Exactly. So the snake is more excused for its behavior.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: Interesting.
Cristina: Yes, yes, yes.
Jack: So, okay, now, Jesus. Interesting things about Jesus. He's suspected to have written in code the Book of John. The Book of John has been theorized throughout time to be written actually by Jesus Christ, not by John.
Cristina: Why do they think that?
Jack: Because its Perspective changes so drastically and sometimes a first person slip happens. Wait, sounds like he's referencing himself. Not only that, the book focuses on Jesus and his divinity specifically. Very few other narratives take place in. This speaks directly of Jesus without hiding his identity or alluding to it the way other biblical texts do where they kind of brush around his majestic. No, he's just like a dude. He's a dude instead of like he's supernatural, troll and everything, man. No, it's like. No, it's just a guy, like, who.
Cristina: Would say that other books.
Jack: Yeah, the other books in the Bible say that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But the Book of John is just like, you know, this guy, like people and whatever. And it's like, who would say that Jesus would say that because he's not impressive to him.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: It's the only book in the Bible to specify details and provable locations, names, minus the existence of Jesus himself that there's zero records for. It is the only book of the Bible that gives you direct references to people that you can prove existed. Places that were very exact. Not just, oh, this is real. No, this. You could, you could find the building, like that kind of stuff.
Cristina: So if it was him, it would make sense.
Jack: Yes. It's so on. It's too on point. And it's the only book in the Bible that offers interpretation. All the others are open to interpretation. This one is like, this is the way to think about this part.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: And Jesus was doing what? Trying to get you to think of it a certain way.
Cristina: Oh, crap. Jesus wrote his own little Bible. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. The Book of John.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: Now, Knights Templar respond directly to the Pope and are tasked with finding, confiscating and acquiring by any means religious relics, scriptures and items, and delivering the desired narrative of Christianity through Bibles and preaching. So this is. This is the brainwashing group. Go out, acquire the things, give them the right way to think about it. And so they also were in charge of clarifying the quote correct way, unquote, to believe in Jesus Christ.
Cristina: Sure. How many different jobs they had.
Jack: It's all essentially the same one job.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And yeah, so that's what I. That's what I think. That's me tying the narrative together. Questions, we don't have answers to what the point of aligning these civilizations were. We know the minds weren't part of it.
Cristina: So then does the alignment even matter?
Jack: Yes, because it happened. But we don't have an answer to why. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter. That just means we don't have an answer to why. Okay, but it happened. It wasn't for no reason. They literally went to Maya and helped them out too. What was the point of that? If they didn't need anybody on one single line, why'd they do it? Specifically people that they gave very complicated mathematically accurate to a bunch of different. Like there's a purpose there.
Cristina: It's not for nothing even for. But there was people outside the line that they did the exact same thing.
Jack: Yes, but there were people directly on the line and the majority of them were on the line. Okay, so there was a point to that.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Something about that mattered. We don't know why. Now that's important. We do know it's important to take care of the garden. Probably because it's secret technology. They either want to populate the universe or they want to.
Cristina: They are populating the universe.
Jack: Well, it's possible that that's what the Egyptians left to do, I guess. Let's think of this in a couple of phases. Give the Egyptians who also have all the same data so they can recreate the technology and inside of one of the pyramids they have the ability to just teleport across the universe. And some of them could just. The pyramid would open. They can just leave in the rockets that they've placed inside, they can populate our own star system, all the local star systems and go across the universe and come from that side back populating everything in any in every direction, all at the same time. They have that ability. Space is their ability.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So they go out with the directions of the sea. People who help them get where they were going to start with. Then we have the Mayans who go underground. They store information. They have electric batteries powering something. There's something. The theory is whatever data retainment information. So that's the in case happens and they do get to us, this technology is safe.
Cristina: Elsewhere of the backup.
Jack: It's the backup. The Mayans are the backup. They disappear because they go underground to both store and protect all this data.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then the sea people who stay on Earth running the program, they have to protect the, the, the, the technology. They can't go into space where they might encounter other things that could be dangerous and want that technology.
Cristina: Do you think there is someone that does know where they're at that is trying to get that technology or not someone, but people, I guess.
Jack: So when we talk about the God of Light and the God of Dark, I believe Jehovah of dark is who kicked them out. And Jehovah of Or Actually, the other way around. Maybe it's Jehovah of Light who kicked them out because he was a technology leader. The good guy wanted to do it right then, because he keeps working on the project, more of his time is consumed. Some creature similar in scale to what we would think these gods are, but they're just people. The sea people are just people. But they're Atlanteans. They are Olympians. They are these way crazy to us.
Cristina: Special people.
Jack: Yeah, to us, but normal to themselves. Something about that scale of power comes through after the use of adrenochrome gets implemented.
Cristina: Oh, okay, that makes sense.
Jack: Which is at the same time we.
Cristina: Know there are people there that are taking adrenal.
Jack: Yes. Which happens to be at the same time that this glitch, this problem that Adam introduces into the system happens. That then, in the future, leads to the birth of the child.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: With the telepathy that's sending out the messages.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: This message perhaps rips through not just time, but gets to the shadow realm too. It's going everywhere all at once. This thing gets a message, gets the idea, plots, and he knows. He consistently interacts. With who? With fairies. And he's like, hey, I need a favor. I gotta get over there. You guys get over there all the time. There needs to be a way. And they're like, oh, yeah, there's an ancient, some method that we know about, and we can help you do it. So concentrate. Fear. Boom. He manages to get through because he wants that technology, because he can create his army however he wants.
Cristina: Because that would make sense of why they would move as well. Yes. Not just from people seeing the vision. That's part of it. But there's something else.
Jack: Well, anybody getting to it? It.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Anybody getting to it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's the point.
Cristina: But, like, they can stop us easily.
Jack: You're totally right. So it's what they can't stop their hiding from.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that's why it's important to get rid of the kid. Because before they were in plain sight, they didn't give a s***.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: They didn't give a crap. It's when this problem gets introduced that again, just so happens to be around the same time that adrenochrome is introduced to the equation. Around the same time the Adam messes with the technology that then leads to the glitch that eventually leads to the genetic problem that leads to Mary having a child without ever getting pregnant and without ever getting fertilized in the first place. And this child having supernatural abilities beyond the normal for the sea people that sends telepathic messages through time, through realities, through realms, through dimensions, gets to this creature that just so happens to be about as powerful as the normal sea people are. He finds a way with help of some fairies, gets through, shows up on this side, and tries to get a hold of the technology. But the sea people know this, and they immediately begin this mass evacuation and hide somewhere.
Cristina: That's very, very protective.
Jack: Yes. With several things happening. They have a collective of really overpowered beings protecting them from above. They have those beings, most overpowered beings, helping them. They have technology surrounding their home that crashes any plane, sinks any ship, makes anything, disappears, and probably flings it to that hole over there in space.
Cristina: Yes. It's a little.
Jack: Just dumping ground. Don't get close to us, or that's where you're going.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which. This is the only reason that. That Jehovah. Jehovah to Jehovah of dark cannot get in now. Jehovah of light hiding.
Cristina: Isn't he working in the garden?
Jack: He's with the garden. The garden is hidden in with the sea people in the bottom of Atlanta. He can't leave.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They're. They. They're not going anywhere. We can't risk anybody following us back either. We are always gonna hide the last person to go there. Mary. That's also why the entryway is protected.
Cristina: The entryway is protected, yes, but no.
Jack: Also fascinating if there is technologies that could track them. There is one place where technology is dampened almost everywhere. It's the mountain.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: You can successfully leave your home and get to the mountain without being tracked. Because there's no way. The mountain is designed in such a way that it would stop everything except for the summit, where you could come in and out and nobody could know how you're doing it or where you're going. Boom. That's why that mountain matters so much, because it's the only way the sea people can leave.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And they have to do it in such a specific way after they get permission. After they. Not they don't get permission. After they make sure that everybody is well organized. What happens in Mount Athos, you need to passes. You need a permission to go there only specific people at specific times. And nobody's allowed in the summit.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Super controlled.
Cristina: It's very controlled.
Jack: Super controlled. So that they can come in and out knowing everything is tight. Nothing's tracking us.
Cristina: This makes sense.
Jack: That's the point.
Cristina: Yes. I think we got it.
Jack: I think we got it.
Cristina: I think that makes sense.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Because this thing, it Wants that technology. That's the real goal.
Jack: That's the real goal. Everything else is just means to an end. And the fact that the Jehovah, that this crazy super advanced intelligent scientist that did so much influencing and probably created a lot of the things that he gave to the Egyptians and the Mayans and all the other civilizations along the old equator, that was probably Jehovah's idea. He was just a genius scientist helping everybody advance. But he has to stay protecting the garden and working on his project. And the whole place is hidden that you ain't getting out too often. And we only go there once in a while because we got to make sure it's tight. So only one of us, only once in a blue, only to trade, and only when necessary. And it might have been thousands of years right now since somebody has been there. In the last thousand years, only 20 people have been up there.
Cristina: So rare. Okay, Jehovah doesn't leave. No.
Jack: But Jehovah of Dark then has free reign. I'm just as powerful. They already know these people and they kind of obsess with these people. I'll just claim to be one of them. In fact, I'll claim to be the one who gave the Egyptians and the Mayans and everybody the technology. I'll claim they can't correct me. They're not gonna show themselves. I win. My presence here hides them so I can just pretend to be him. But eventually that becomes a problem and he's like, you know what? I'm gonna teach somebody else how to work on my project and I'm gonna go and confront this f*****. I'm never coming back. People. Don't worry what the Jehovah of light exits the Persian Gulf away. And not the Persian Gulf voices, the sea, People's home in Atlantis. And that's where the good narrative comes in again. Not just the garden good or the dark in the middle of a bunch of destruction and crap, but the good again. That happens later. So in reality. Oh, my God. This story just wrapped up entirely up, what, at age 30? Actually, at the birth. At the birth, the wars and chaos that starts building allowed. That's probably exactly what. Oh, crap.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's the fairies. Deport kept messing with it and directing it. So it's always the Catholic Church versus the fairies, which is exactly what happened in Ireland when he went.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: When he went to kick out the fairies. The whole war is the Catholic Church versus the fairies. Who are the people helping? The shadow people. And one of them just so happens to be Jehovah. So Jesus is born. The fear of all of the crap happening and the narrative changing for the worst is what gets him through.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And then this whole ordeal, that's when finally Jehovah of Light is like, I. Look, guys, I can solve it. I'm the smartest guy here I got. I have to. So you guys take the tech. I'm gonna go solve this problem. Jesus dies in the exchange, but he gets rid of Jehovah of Dark.
Cristina: Jesus or Jehovah of Light.
Jack: Jesus dies in the exchange, but they manage to get rid of Jehovah of Dark because Jehovah of Light is who we find out about afterwards.
Cristina: Okay, but then why are they still hiding so hard? I thought it was because they couldn't get rid of Jehovah of Dark.
Jack: Well, it's because the shadow people have a way in.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So he managed to get rid of the one person trying to control the narrative.
Cristina: Okay. But that doesn't stop.
Jack: That doesn't stop the fact that now there is a wave of fear that randomly shows up. And the shadow people, plus the fairies working hoots, being able to make it happen whenever they want.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So they have to stay hiding because eventually one of them might get curious. And they can actually take this from us if they wanted to.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: There's probably more of them than they are of us. And they got abilities we don't understand.
Cristina: Okay. Yes, yes.
Jack: So they have to stay hidden. That's where the shadow people are. That's how they partake in this. And the whole fear is part of this. And adrenochrome is a way for things to cross into the shadow realm to then join the shadow people. Boom. All of this fits in some crazy, bigger picture.
Cristina: Very, very crazy picture, but it makes sense.
Jack: Makes sense. That's so far what the narrative is.
Cristina: And everything fits. Shadow people, Jesus, etc.
Jack: We got Jesus, the Church, Adrenochrome, the Catholics, the Garden of Eden with Adam, Eve, Lilith, the serpent, and Jehovah all included. That tells us about the sea people, who are both the Go, the Persian Gulf oasis people and the Atlanteans. The how. Mary is really just one of them. Her quest, her child, the glitch, which is why Adam got kicked in the first place for tampering with the technology that later led to the kid with the telepathic ability to send messages in every direction, attracting some crazy s*** from somewhere else, some other realm that he also sent the message to. Thing figures out how to get across. They take note, go and hide, because this thing is in cahoots with some other creatures that are making people spaz out.
Cristina: So, yeah, I think.
Jack: So the war breaks out. Then the. We create the Church to control the narrative. After Jehovah of light shows up, deals with the main problem, but he knows there could be more in the future. So then he. With the maji, who are also sea people. So Jehovah, the sea person and the maji. The sea people. Okay, so maji is the scholar, the sea people. The maji are the. Also different kind of scholar, I guess. One is a scientist and the other, just like critical thinkers, problem solvers, the magi. That's what they do. And so together, they then create the Church, make the Pope, make the Templar, direct the story, and it's. It's great. And then they get Mount Athos, put it on down, packed. That's their way in and out. Very rarely does anybody come in. And it's likely people haven't come in or out in maybe 100 or 200 years.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So, yeah. Whoa. Story makes sense now.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Every part.
Cristina: I love it. But also, we have a sleeping Jesus that we haven't figured out what to do with.
Jack: Yeah, yeah.
Cristina: The story didn't help us.
Jack: The story didn't help us. Yes. Which I forgot. That was totally the point. That's how crazy this. But the whole point. We began just looking at unicorns, trying to figure out how to get Santa Claus to get Jesus out. That's how we got here. Because we still have Jesus in our facility, still in cryostasis, and we can't bring him out because he'll just die.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Ah. The road we've gone on.
Cristina: It's been awesome.
Jack: It's been awesome. Didn't help.
Cristina: No, not at all.
Jack: Not at all.
Cristina: You got a beautiful picture.
Jack: Yeah. This story is great. We managed to find all the pieces and connect them, so. Okay, I don't know if this is the end of it, but look, we still don't know why. The questions we do have to answer. We've answered a lot.
Cristina: There's. Yes.
Jack: What the h*** Jehovah of dark wanted with the tech. Like, what could he do to it? He knows genetic manipulation. Does he want to create his own humans? Does he want a physical body?
Cristina: I thought that's what it was about. I already thought we knew the answer. I thought he just wanted to make people to kill people and just enjoy that blood or fear or whatever.
Jack: I guess. Maybe also why the sea people created the old equator or aligned civilizations along.
Cristina: Yeah, it'd be even stranger if they.
Jack: Made but why did they align a bunch of civilizations that they helped evolve along the old equator that we do not get at all.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Is that everything? We haven't answered yet. I guess so.
Cristina: I guess we figured out unicorns. I think. Yeah.
Jack: Unicorns are probably just highly advanced because we already know they have genetic technology. That's what the Garden of Eden is. So it's something like a unicorn, which is essentially a shire horse with a genetic. Genetic disfigurement built in on purpose so that it looks unique. And some goat DNA, some mountain goat DNA in there so they can just climb mountains easily. Makes perfect sense.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. What else do we have?
Jack: I think it's just that we just still don't know what the point of the old equator is.
Cristina: That is the biggest mystery that won't be solved.
Jack: Who says?
Cristina: Or I guess not right now.
Jack: Oh, yeah. Anyways, if you guys are curious about how we got here, you can go, I guess start at where unicorns are or where we got. No, it starts before, if you want to. Really? Like before we got serious, how we. How we planned to get Santa Claus in the first place. This started in Christmas.
Cristina: It started around.
Jack: It started before Christmas.
Cristina: Before Christmas.
Jack: Yeah, started before Christmas.
Cristina: Probably in the beginning of December or the end of.
Jack: Somewhere around there. Read some descriptions. So we tried to find Santa Claus and then we tried to do that by getting unicorn. Actually, no. There were a couple of episodes before we tried to get some. It's not the point. You could find anything related to this or any episode before this in quite a couple of places.
Cristina: But it could possibly be related to this maybe.
Jack: Yeah, you can. Yes, because you can talk to us about any of those episodes that you find. Anything you think is interesting or any input you have or any interpretation of any of the information.
Cristina: If you could connect any more dots.
Jack: Yeah, actually, yeah, if you can. If you. If there's anything you feel you can connect that we haven't, or if you feel you know why. If you have an answer as to why the sea people gave technology to advanced civilizations around the old equator, please tell us why you think that is. You could tell us on all our socials at just convopod, that is on TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.
Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the.
Jack: Show and tell everybody about this. Everybody.
Cristina: Everyone needs to know.
Jack: Yes. Tell them to listen to the entire. There's a lot of episodes. The story doesn't end. Yeah, I always think it ends. No, but now I'm probably just gonna look into this old equator.
Cristina: This is as close as the ending. As we've gotten so far, though.
Jack: Yes, it is as close. We've wrapped up so much. There's really just that one question hanging.
Cristina: That is a tough question, but maybe we'll figure it out. Who knows? Hopefully this has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye.
Jack: You're not gonna sneak up. It's not happening. Just drop from the sky. They're gonna see you, but it's whatever. You're more likely to survive them shooting at you than crossing the largest desert ever known. In the hottest conditions ever known. With nothing to sustain yourself, your food will run out. Factually, you cannot carry the supply.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.
