Rambling 209: Reviving The Dead
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Is the Resurrection of Jesus Christ an event that took place? If Jesus never died, were any sins cleansed? Will we have to be the ones to resurrect Jesus Christ? The duo begins the process of searching for the best way to extract Jesus from cryostasis, but in order to do so, they must deep dive into all the different methods of revival conceived of by man.
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I am your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And look, when we're grounding those ideas, they tend to be really baffling. And so we go into more baffling ideas and it says it's a. What do you call it? A self fulfilling prophecy? No, it's a feedback loop. The feedback loop.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That's what happens. But listen to me. Last week we were talking about how different people celebrate death.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: And I was thinking it'd be real interesting if we got on to fixing our big problem. The opposite of death. Revival.
Cristina: Oh, bringing Jesus back.
Jack: Yeah, apparent. Apparently it's up to us to be responsible for the resurrection.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So that's the thing.
Cristina: So waiting for signs to catch up isn't good enough?
Jack: Nope. I mean, what are the odds? The odds that if we go into the future and they're just a bunch of cat people, they're not gonna help us?
Cristina: Yeah. So there's gotta be a better way.
Jack: This has got to be another way. So I figure we would look into a couple of the ways that people and media have discussed coming back from the dead.
Cristina: Do zombies count?
Jack: Zombies. Okay, look, if you're a voodoo zombie, you didn't come back from the dead. You're still dead. If you're a science zombie, you never died. Okay, this is the problem. See? Yes, the issue. Because the. The. The. The. The voodoo zombie is just a puppet. It's an empty shell.
Cristina: Huh? We can't do that to Jesus.
Jack: Well, he wouldn't be Jesus. He would just be an empty puppet. We gotta tell him to do stuff.
Cristina: Aren't we gonna do that anyway?
Jack: No.
Cristina: What's the plan? I don't know why we're bringing him back.
Jack: Powers, I guess. Well, we're really investigating him more than anything.
Cristina: Okay. If he has powers to help us and doesn't want to help us. Voodoo zombie.
Jack: I mean, first, let's pick that apart. If he doesn't want to help us and he has powers, are we facing a. The boys type scenario?
Cristina: We have a groundhog.
Jack: Okay, listen to me. We can potentially. Is what you're saying here like the image is playing in my mind that we take in a. In a rogue Jesus scenario where we bring him back to life and he's like, I'm not helping you. In fact, I am stopping you or whatever happens, we then go ahead and grab Steve the groundhog and immediately fling him at Jesus.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Hoping that a combat happens in which the Pokemon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In which the. In which Steve the groundhog with his.
Cristina: Communication with the clouds. Like, it's not just Steve the magical groundhog. He's got buddies.
Jack: If it works.
Cristina: If it works.
Jack: What if it doesn't work?
Cristina: What then?
Jack: What? Like what's what? What? What does Steve have on Jesus?
Cristina: Weather.
Jack: Weather.
Cristina: He controls the elements. Except for fire. Lightning counts. So that is fire. Right.
Jack: That's interesting. So his one avatar. Almost. He's almost the avatar because he doesn't control fire. That is true. There's like a gap in his knowledge. So he's not like a groundhog. Could never be the Avatar.
Cristina: Why not?
Jack: Because he doesn't have control of fire and you have to.
Cristina: Well, he has control of the weather and the weather has fire.
Jack: What weather has fire?
Cristina: Lightning.
Jack: Yes, you're right. It's just a form of fire. Fair enough.
Cristina: And aren't there fire clouds? That's not a thing. Fire tornadoes. He can make fire tornadoes also, like.
Jack: What'S wrong with Aang for not doing that?
Cristina: I don't know, because that's probably not natural.
Jack: Just hella op. Is that natural thing fire tornadoes at the Fire Nation?
Cristina: That would be amazing.
Jack: Come on, dude. That's just like. All their boats are screwed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Making tidal waves. He could do whatever he wants. The Avatar's op. It's real exaggerated.
Cristina: Except he's a peeps will. Dude. Crystal Mark. Yeah.
Jack: Usually the Avatar is a very pacifist. Has to be. That's a lot of power.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And with great power comes great responsibility. According to Uncle Ben.
Cristina: Ben? Well, Ben's not around. What's the hedgehog fight?
Jack: The hedgehog fight the hedgehog.
Cristina: What is the groundhog Groundhog fight.
Jack: So throw Steve at Jesus.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's gonna fail real hard.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because Jesus look, this fight's gonna go like. Do you remember that movie where the people were like magicians and then they got like. They were like secretly thieves. And the greatest trick ever was the movie. And then the end is them robbing the bank or whatever. They were explaining the whole thing throughout the movie until the heist gets pulled.
Cristina: Off and like, yes, the cops was chasing them, but it turns out the cop is actually one of the magicians.
Jack: Yes, Mark Ru. Magician of them all.
Cristina: I don't. Okay, what about it?
Jack: Well, that movie where they are doing that, I figure. I figured that that's kind of how it would play out between Steve and Jesus. I feel like they're.
Cristina: He's the greatest magician who.
Jack: Jesus.
Cristina: He's like movie magic. Magic.
Jack: Yeah. He's mind bogglingly magical.
Cristina: Yeah. Nothing too crazy, but just crazy in the. No one can actually do this.
Jack: Okay, fair enough. Look. So Steve, the legit demigod, versus Jesus, the totally human illusionist who's just really clever with his hands.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: He's gonna beat this overpowered groundhog.
Cristina: But his illusions are so real.
Jack: Yeah. With his sleight of hand.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He's gonna. With the power of sleight of hand, j defeated the groundhog.
Cristina: Okay, so how are you bringing him back?
Jack: Okay, I don't know, because cryostasis is pretty complicated, and it seems we don't know how to reverse a problem in which the blood vessels themselves freeze and just become icicles.
Cristina: What if we find a vampire? Could that help?
Jack: I'm not sure that would bring them back. I'm pretty sure the vampire still has a circulatory system that functions.
Cristina: Vampires can turn humans into vampires.
Jack: Right, but now what are you gonna do if the blood isn't pumping around this person's veins?
Cristina: We pump it first. We can't do that somehow? Oh, no. That's part of the problem. Okay. Okay. What else?
Jack: Well, we have to figure out what else, ultimately, because cryostasis is so complicated. So undoing the fact now. First we got to try to understand what the h*** cryostasis is and is like the person conscious on the other side. So you've died. The light's gonna go out, but we stop you right. Right before.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Then we throw you in a tank of water, and then we fill it up with some liquid that creates the solution that essentially freezes you. Are you conscious in that time? Are you seeing the outside world?
Cristina: I don't know. You're probably dead.
Jack: Do you feel that? So you're not there the whole time. They have to. Literally, there is a revival actually happening.
Cristina: Like bringing someone back from dead?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Right?
Cristina: I think so.
Jack: Except you never died. They stopped it. That's the point.
Cristina: Yeah, then it's more like being in a dream.
Jack: Look, were you dreaming? Is the point. Because your brain still had to be functional in order to be brought back.
Cristina: I don't know. You probably were. People who wake up from that stuff, remember things.
Jack: But then the question is, do you remember the entire time?
Cristina: No, I doubt it.
Jack: Not the entire time. But you. Is it like the longest dream you've ever had? And there's like a million billion dreams because it's been so long.
Cristina: There's no way you can remember all those dreams, though. You'll just remember a few last dreams, maybe.
Jack: Well, the question is then, what about people in comas? Do people in comas feel that they were in a dream?
Cristina: I bet they do. Because don't people come back from things like that? I don't know about comas, maybe comas, but like, they come back with life, life after death experience, whether it's like heaven, h***, or living as someone else. Those are just dreams.
Jack: Yeah. Okay, fair enough. Those are definitely just dreams. There's no way they really just became another person. That wouldn't make sense.
Cristina: So I don't know. They're not dead dead and sometimes.
Jack: But we don't always know why somebody comes out of a coma, which would be the closest thing we have on a regular basis of bringing somebody out of death, a coma. Because we can sort of, to some degree manage a coma. But we don't always know why a person comes out of a coma or what's holding them in the coma to begin with.
Cristina: Yeah, it's usually something random or I guess we don't know at all. They just wake up.
Jack: They just pop up. They suddenly start recovering or not recovering, but wake up. Just wake up?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Why'd they wake up? Who the h*** knows? And it's always random. Like maybe they'll wake up.
Cristina: So are we just gonna hope that Jesus wakes up?
Jack: No.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So one of the first things we could try would be to go real old school and we just take him out of the tank and CPR him.
Cristina: What?
Jack: That is the most consistently used, most old school and effective form of revival cpr.
Cristina: But never on someone. Not like in his condition.
Jack: Never on somebody in his condition. But he has brought people back from the dead.
Cristina: How long were they dead for?
Jack: There have been people who've been dead for minutes. And this brings them back because he's been.
Cristina: Wait, I guess it might not have been that long. Because if we got him right at the moment that they hid his body and then we put him in the machine, although it's probably been a week or two. It's been like two weeks now.
Jack: Something like that. Yeah, sure.
Cristina: Yeah. So maybe it's safe.
Jack: Yeah. Because presumably what the liquid of cryostasis is doing is slowing down the process up to almost a. A full stop, the process of death. But it's not fully stopped. So all we have to do is re. Speed it up. Right.
Cristina: You know how to do it?
Jack: Well, we could do. See we just undo him and put cpr.
Cristina: So that's it.
Jack: Undo it and pump his heart, push oxygen in there and start pumping.
Cristina: That sounds very easy.
Jack: Hope it jump starts him.
Cristina: Is there a chance that that will fail? If that fails, does he die?
Jack: I mean, I'm pretty sure in every option, if we fail to revive him, he's dead.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Like, if we try it and it doesn't do anything and we just put him back in the box, will he be okay?
Jack: I don't know if that's how that will work, but we could always try. We could always just throw him back in.
Cristina: Yeah. Just keep retrying with different things.
Jack: Yeah, but we would have to obviously come to a conclusion. To what? A couple of things that we would try first. Okay, I'm just gonna randomly try.
Cristina: Just do everything. Okay. That sounds like a good one, though. Yeah, it doesn't seem like anything could go wrong.
Jack: What, and giving him cpr?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Well, alternatively, way old school, the defibrillator is a way to go. We go get a defibrillator, we pull him out of the tank, and then we just hit him with electricity a couple of times to the chest. Who knows? Maybe think about it. Shocks, warms the body.
Cristina: He's all wet.
Jack: Yeah, it's gonna conduct well.
Cristina: It's gonna kill him. Burn him up. He's gonna be on fire.
Jack: Do you think he'll be on fire? Yeah, it depends if that liquid is flammable or not.
Cristina: What if it's super flammable?
Jack: What if it's not flammable at all?
Cristina: Wait, is it the liquid in his blood?
Jack: No, I don't. I mean, it has to be at this point, right? How long has he been in cryostasis? How is it not three weeks? No, no, no. He's been in cryostasis for 2,000 years.
Cristina: Then we just put him in a time trial. No, we came back from the time travel. Oh, I thought we brought him back.
Jack: No, no, no, no. He's been in cryostasis for 2000 years. We only went back in time to put him in cryostasis. We didn't bring him with us.
Cristina: Yes, I forgot.
Jack: Santa Claus bring him to us as a gift.
Cristina: Duh. Okay, let's not do that. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay, so anything we do to him is super risky.
Jack: Yeah, everything's gonna have risk. I am thinking that the defibrillator is definitely gonna have a little more of an oomph, and chances are it might work more. It is electricity. We are trying to Bring him out of a sort of frozen imitation state. And it seems like electricity to the heart, to the brain, that can do it. That could be the thing. It would heat again. It would course through the body, heating up random little bits. He's not literally frozen. But it's imitating frozen. Maybe. But then maybe because he's not literally frozen, it's a bad idea.
Cristina: It might be a bad idea. I don't know. We gotta talk to an expert. Ask them. One of those people in that weird website that we saw about. What the. The cryostasis people. Ask them if you could defl.
Jack: They don't know how it works.
Cristina: Oh, so if you ask them if you could do that to one of.
Jack: Them, they don't know how it works? They know because they're waiting on the technology themselves.
Cristina: Like anyone's trying, though.
Jack: Why would they try? The purpose of freezing the person would be defeated. If right now is when you. Because you just kill them.
Cristina: What if someone put that in their will? I want you to leave me frozen for this long and then leave me.
Jack: Regardless of how far technology has gone.
Cristina: Why has no one done that?
Jack: Who knows? Maybe somebody has.
Cristina: That's a crazy.
Jack: Maybe they're like, when the last living member of my bloodline is born, I want to be woken up. Or when the last living member of my bloodline is like 20 years old, I want to meet what they're like. So I want to. That's when you bring me out.
Cristina: Yes. Even if the tech is not ready.
Jack: Yeah. Which doesn't make sense because you just wake up and die.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or not even wake up. You'll just die. You'll just take you out. Boom, flop. Which I'm expecting would happen. Which is why we need to figure out what to do to Jesus right off the bat to resurrect them.
Cristina: Okay, so I'm still not sure about that one.
Jack: The defibrillator.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's a bit aggressive.
Cristina: I feel like we could hurt him.
Jack: But he's gonna be dead if we do nothing. So, like electricity over, no electricity.
Cristina: Okay, maybe.
Jack: I think that works a lot. Alternatively, there's a bunch of magic options that we can use.
Cristina: Those are the only non magic options.
Jack: I mean, there are other science y options that aren't magic, but.
Cristina: No, let's hear about the magic.
Jack: But voodoo is. Again, he's not. He's not alive. Technically, we wouldn't be able to use his magic. We'd be stuck using magic on him, which would defeat the purposes of what we need. But if crap got Bad. And we need, for whatever reason, to.
Cristina: No, that doesn't make sense, Uncle Bernie. Yeah, like, we don't need to do that. What is the purpose of that?
Jack: To fake his aliveness.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Somebody came to visit, and we wanted to pretend he was alive. So that they don't know he's dead. Nah, because they'll think the second crucifixion happened. Or saved again.
Cristina: Why are we gonna confuse people? Let's not do that.
Jack: Okay. Non voodoo, black magic. This is a weird one, because we'd be literally using the forces of evil. We, you know, make some sort of animal sacrifice, gather a couple of things here and there. This is the way to go. This is definitely on the better side of options. Find an animal, cut it open, spill its blood over a thing. You know, the whole ritual thing.
Cristina: But is it, like, supernatural, that you have to, like, give up your soul if you make the deal?
Jack: Well, this is magic. This isn't a deal with a demon.
Cristina: Oh, it's not. It's not gonna lead to a deal with a demon or anything.
Jack: No, no, no.
Cristina: The magic isn't asking for anything.
Jack: No. I mean, it's black magic. Something always goes wrong. But, yeah, probably not predictable like that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But black magic is definitely one of the ways to go.
Cristina: Mm. Because we don't actually have to do the black magic.
Jack: We don't have to do the black magic. We have creatures that know magic or advanced technology, which is this magic. I don't know when it's magic and. Or technology anymore.
Cristina: It sounds like magic.
Jack: It sounds like magic, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What if it's nature tech?
Cristina: Nature tech, who knows?
Jack: Right. But yeah, so we can definitely approach bringing Jesus back from the dead with black magic. A lot of the issues with this one is these black magic tactics always tend to come back to Satan, and it's unlikely that, like, they'll work. Even if they did work in every other instance, why would Satan allow them to work if it was to revive Jesus Christ? So I think the technical issue here relies more on who is for rather than its true effectiveness. And on average, I'm sure that black magic would just be effective.
Cristina: But because it's Jesus, Satan's gonna be like, nah.
Jack: Yeah. And it won't be effective.
Cristina: Why would Satan care?
Jack: Because Satan doesn't want it to be Jesus. Satan doesn't like Jesus.
Cristina: Why? He doesn't know Jesus. You think he knows him? He's not just some dude claiming stuff. You think Satan knows him?
Jack: Satan might know. Look, no. If Jesus is who he says he.
Cristina: Is, then yeah, we shouldn't risk it. Okay, what if he takes his body? Maybe we make a deal like that.
Jack: Give Satan his body.
Cristina: Yes. Still thinking, like, supernatural.
Jack: Yeah. No, this wouldn't work. Look, there's no crossroads demon happening. This is not a crossroads demon scenario. This is just magic. You're gonna put the things together, you're gonna throw some of their hair, you're gonna light their picture on fire. Say a thing, your lights are gonna go out. A demonic voice is gonna say something, and then lights are gonna come back on, and then your dead missing person is gonna be in front of you, and you're gonna be horrified.
Cristina: Mm. Mm. That doesn't sound so bad, minus the.
Jack: Whole dead person's not fronting part.
Cristina: Well, he's not dead.
Jack: And in the case of Jesus, he's already the kind of type of dude who would mess around with these kind of special effects, so.
Cristina: Exactly. So you don't know if it's from him.
Jack: Yeah, so Houdini ness, he likes go out, whatever. Then Poofy's there, and he's like, hey, cool, it worked. You're like, yeah, whatever, dude. It was the end of one of your tricks or whatnot. What? Not sure. Sure, sure.
Cristina: It could be him. Oh, that's interesting.
Jack: Thus making him ultimately the best magician.
Cristina: Can he rob a bank?
Jack: He probably robbed the bank in the time we were doing that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: With his superhuman speed, of course. Okay, but look, we are talking about magic. We got voodoo out of the way. We got black magic. But there is a different type of magic that is also really exaggeratedly strong. And we don't even understand how it works. Saint magic, saints magic. Some saints literally brought people back from the dead with prayer, with it, I guess, with, like, the touch of their hand.
Cristina: Where was their hand touching?
Jack: You know, it was touching. They came in, jumped right back up with a little pip in their stuff. But look, no, it's totally the case. Some of the saints were, in fact, bringing people back from the dead, which brings an interesting point here. In the situation where this is the option that we had to use, we would need to go back in time to go get the guy who can fix the problem that we created by going back in time. So if this was the option we chose in good old time travel fashion, the solution to time travel is time travel.
Cristina: We're stuck in a loop. That's what happens when you use a time machine.
Jack: No, always 100% of the time just.
Cristina: Trapped using the time machine. It's the only solution. No, just be going back and Then coming back and then going back and then coming back.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We totally were trying to avoid this. And then we didn't use that for years. We didn't touch that machine for years. And then we touched the machine once, and we're right back where it wasn't touched for years. So I see why the previous set of clones stopped.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And we continued the tradition of not.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Until we did.
Cristina: So we did. And now we have to do it again.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because in either direction, we began the problem with time travel. It seems like we could only solve it a lot. Time. With time travel.
Cristina: Oh, no. I was gonna say, are there any saints right now? But we now just wait for them to die before making them saints. Were they saints and a lot like they're alive saints or they weren't actually saints when they're alive.
Jack: They weren't saying something.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But listen to me. Here's what's fascinating about your question. This means that there's people out there who aren't saints who are performing power.
Cristina: Like things right now.
Jack: Go to.
Cristina: I don't know how.
Jack: Yes. Oh, how we're gonna find them.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because there are people with powers out there. That part's right.
Cristina: We investigate every church.
Jack: They don't have to be religious. Maybe they're just doing things. There's a bunch of people who'll never become saints because they're doing crooked things with their powers.
Cristina: But those are gonna be hard to find. I feel like it's way easier to just find the people who are more obviously gonna have those people in there that.
Jack: Yeah. The people who want the attention, who want to be saints, are gonna hang out in the places where they're most likely to get that attention.
Cristina: Mm. But I feel like there hasn't been any. I don't know. I don't pay attention.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cristina: It's a problem or anything.
Jack: If we were into the church and things of that nature and heavily paying attention all the time, then we would, like. It would be like, sports would be like, oh, this saint's gonna be drafted or whatever.
Cristina: Well, this pope is gonna be drafted or whatever.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd be all into it. You know, like, who's team leader this. These next couple of years, or when.
Cristina: I feel like time travel is way easier.
Jack: What? Than finding a saint.
Cristina: Yeah. Someone that's alive right now who's not a saint yet, who's on their way to become a saint.
Jack: But we can always go and get a saint from the past.
Cristina: Exactly. So that's what we should do.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Time travel.
Jack: Time travel seems to always be the solution to solve the problems of time travel.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That is an endless, infinite, always kind of problem. So this is definitely like, a winning possibility. Just go get the guy who literally has the power to bring somebody back from the dead.
Cristina: Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's the only way.
Jack: It's not the only way.
Cristina: It's not. What's the other ways?
Jack: There's probably other ways. We're gonna find that out.
Cristina: You said saints brought people back to life.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Do you know any of their stories?
Jack: There's a couple. I don't know them off the top of my head, but I remember them. Yeah. Oh, I remember. Saints bring. Specifically.
Cristina: I remember.
Jack: I don't know why I was looking this up a long time ago, but I did stumble upon stories of saints and their revival of people. They're bringing people back from the dead. And crazy healing things too. Blindness and whatnot. Exaggerated things.
Cristina: Okay, yeah. But yeah, and Jesus probably brought people back to life.
Jack: Probably. I don't remember. But yeah, sure, why not? He's definitely the type of guy who would do that. Him and his apostles all bringing people back from the dead. So if that's the case, one of them. One of them should be able to bring Jesus back.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Especially if we're like, hey, we're from the future and Jesus needs you.
Cristina: I know who to bring back. Even though he really. He doesn't relate to Jesus at all.
Jack: Who St. Patrick did St. Patrick bring? Why would you bring the one guy to. He's so overpowered. He got Jehovah shaking in his boots.
Cristina: Exactly. Like, he might not have ever revived somebody, but he has the power.
Jack: He's pretty overpowered. Maybe he might be useful against a cat people.
Cristina: Yeah. Oh, he can be useful in many ways.
Jack: Yeah. But also, we failed at getting something overpowered like that in the first place. We way under thought that plan. Huge hole.
Cristina: Okay, so it'll somehow be easier to get one of these things. Oh, I guess. If they know who we have. Okay, never mind.
Jack: Yeah, we're like, hey, help Jesus.
Cristina: I mean, why wouldn't St. Patrick help Jesus? That's his Jesus too.
Jack: Yes. Except he's not an apostle.
Cristina: And he must care.
Jack: I mean, I guess you don't have to be an apostle and. No, you're right. He should care. He should care. He hates demons and such.
Cristina: Yeah. So he must love Jesus.
Jack: He must love Jesus. But he's so off the, like, chain. He's so dangerous. He's a wild Card.
Cristina: He's a wild card.
Jack: He is. He does random things. He's a dangerous, dangerous person.
Cristina: Yes, I guess.
Jack: So we get him, okay? We get him and we get Jesus back from the dead. Then how do we control him? We got Jesus back from the dead. Now what?
Cristina: We have Jesus.
Jack: We can't even deal with the freaking cat people. We're going to mess with whatever the h*** St. Patrick is.
Cristina: Okay, then didn't Jesus.
Jack: Yeah, I think definitely dodge overpower.
Cristina: I mean, not Jesus. One of his dudes.
Jack: Yeah, because it's too dangerous. It's too dangerous. Guy who just overpowers Jehovah as a God himself. That's. We're messing with some big potatoes.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, that'd be so cool. Well, okay.
Jack: I mean, the question.
Cristina: Maybe another time, would.
Jack: Would Steve. If we threw Steve at St. Patrick, how would that go?
Cristina: I don't know. St. Patrick would banish him. Like the snakes and the monsters.
Jack: Wouldn't it be an epic battle?
Cristina: No, he'll make him drown. He'll just go back in the water and then Steve would just walk into the water and drown.
Jack: What's up with that? Isn't that what he told all the snakes and stuff? Just leave?
Cristina: I guess. I don't know what he said, but they were so scared of him that they ran into the water and drowned.
Jack: Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, he has some hypnotic ability that makes him real op. Maybe he's not even overpowered. Think how the story goes. He really just told a bunch of crap to leave Ireland and it did, so. And then he went in and told Jesus. I mean, not Jesus. He told Jehovah, hey, let me run the thing. And then Jehovah was like, yeah, cool. He's not actually doing anything other than one really overpowered thing. He has some ability of suggestibility.
Cristina: Oh, crap. He's a magician, too?
Jack: Oh, no, his hypnosis.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: He tells people, hey, do the thing. And they just do the thing. They don't know why.
Cristina: This means these saints aren't reviving people. They're doing magic power.
Jack: Well, they do have powers.
Cristina: Not real power.
Jack: Why? That doesn't mean that he doesn't. Like, St. Patrick doesn't know he's doing it. He thinks he has a power and.
Cristina: Think they have a power.
Jack: But what are they doing that they're bringing people back from the dead?
Cristina: I don't know. They're doing some trick and it's bringing them back. But they might not be dead to begin with. They might just seem dead. They have this trick. It does the job.
Jack: So we go ahead, we find one of these guys, we bring Jesus out of the tank, and this guy does this thing, and Jesus just stays dead. Cause he's actually dead.
Cristina: So we probably might not do that. I don't know.
Jack: But Jesus isn't actually dead. That's why he's in cryostasis.
Cristina: But can their magic. No, he's just. What's happening to him is too advanced to the stuff that they're used to dealing with.
Jack: They're dealing with magic. It's so different. No, if it is magic.
Cristina: If it is magic. Are you risking it?
Jack: He's dying anyways. We're trying to pick what we're gonna do.
Cristina: Exactly. So we should find the best solution. Yeah.
Jack: Now we're going through them.
Cristina: Okay. I'm just saying this one may not be it.
Jack: Oh, why? I think this is definitely a way more likely candidate. This and probably the defibrillator. I feel like electricity is a way to go. That's a strong, strong candidate.
Cristina: I don't know. I feel like we're just going to kill him.
Jack: He's dying either way. The only outcome where he doesn't die is if this works.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: He said regardless of not.
Cristina: Mm. Mm.
Jack: So next thing that we could try would be to actually let him die.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because then we go ahead and we buy a Ouija board and we tell him that he needs to go and become a detective. And that that way he can find his body and come back to life.
Cristina: I don't understand.
Jack: We're gonna make him become a spirit detective.
Cristina: What is a spirit detective?
Jack: Spirit detective is a person who is a detective for the spirit world.
Cristina: I don't understand what you're talking about.
Jack: Yeah, there's demons and stuff that get loose from the spirit world, and you gotta catch them and take them back to the spirit world.
Cristina: Is this a cartoon?
Jack: Yes. Based on the Yu Hakusho.
Cristina: Okay. That's okay. You have to be a spirit first.
Jack: Yes. You become a spirit, and then you have to earn your body back. So we put Jesus, who is way into challenges.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And we tell him with a. An Ouija board. Yo, become. Go to this spirit precinct and talk to the spirit cop office. The detective. Spirit mode.
Cristina: This sounds very risky.
Jack: And then he's gonna go into the spirit, you know, police station.
Cristina: What if he's not interested in coming back? What if he's cool with the spare world?
Jack: Well, he this. Then it would fail.
Cristina: Regardless of what we're doing. If he wants to die.
Jack: Yeah, if he wants to be dead.
Cristina: Huh? Huh? Huh? Crap. What do we do to stop? What if we put mittens on his hands?
Jack: For what?
Cristina: I don't know. So he won't kill himself.
Jack: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is the. The assumption here is we bring Jesus back to life, he realizes he came to life, and then he just immediately tries to commit suicide because he believes or not he believes. He's like, I should have died.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I want to be dead.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I said all that stuff so they would kill me.
Cristina: He was prepared to die. We took him, took that moment from him. Yeah, he's miserable. What if he's like data? He's like, this isn't real. I just need death.
Jack: Well, plot. Tw. Is the world godless now? Because we stole Jesus and he didn't actually die, and so no sins were.
Cristina: Cleansed, I think because we snatched him. He's in heaven.
Jack: No, we snatched Jesus, who dies for the sins.
Cristina: Oh, he never actually died for the sins.
Jack: He never actually died for the sins.
Cristina: Well, the first time, he never actually died for the sins. I mean, he died for a second, but does that really count?
Jack: Yeah, it was kind of cheating, wasn't it?
Cristina: Yeah, like, he was kind of cheating.
Jack: Died for your sins. And it's like, well, he didn't stay dead for your sins.
Cristina: I couldn't stay dead. It doesn't matter. He could. He slept for our sins.
Jack: I mean, yeah, it's like death to him totally didn't matter. And he totally was a spirit, bro. Which means this could have worked. Maybe he was fading in and out of random moments, and people saw him here and there. But we could have directly communicated with him because he was already trying to communicate from the other side.
Cristina: When was that?
Jack: All the times they saw him after he died. But we then changed history by actually putting him in the thing. So he didn't show up anywhere as a spirit because he never died.
Cristina: But there's still stories like that, so that has nothing to do with anything.
Jack: Well, they think he died.
Cristina: Exactly. So they always thought he died, like it doesn't matter when.
Jack: Those stories so happened. Interesting. But he never actually visited any of them. Fascinating.
Cristina: Time travel.
Jack: Well, we solved that. There's a lot of weird things happening. Like that time that those guys were in the furnace and Jesus popped up. Like, what's that? He was in cryostasis.
Cristina: Was he? That was the story after he was dead, I guess, because I thought he was alive somewhere. I have no idea where that story takes place.
Jack: That's not after he died.
Cristina: I don't know how long the story.
Jack: Goes after his death or before he was born. This is also weird. Stories like that. Yeah, like, hold Jesus and then, like before he's even born, showing up.
Cristina: I have no idea. The timeline is weird.
Jack: Yeah. It's unclear what's happening with Jesus, but, yeah, he can go through those trials and tribulations and become a spirit detective, which is right up his alley. Get vanquish evil or.
Cristina: What does he have to, like, fight and stuff?
Jack: Yeah. And he's a pacifist.
Cristina: Yeah. That doesn't make sense.
Jack: He hangs out with murders. I doubt he's really a pacifist. I'm sure that's just.
Cristina: But he has them fighting for him. He's like the boss, dude. The ash. No, like the mob boss. I don't know. He gets his bodyguards or whoever, apostles.
Jack: To do his dirty bidding.
Cristina: Yeah, they're the ones that murder and kill for him. He doesn't have to get his hands dirty.
Jack: Hey, Peter. Go get him. Go get him, Peter. Yeah, boss. Hey, I get him, boss.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Jesus. I got him. Balls, Bob. Jesus.
Cristina: I doubt they sound like. I don't even know what that's supposed to sound.
Jack: Neither do I. But look, if he did become a spirit detective and then he did reclaim his body. We have his body.
Cristina: How long is this process?
Jack: It could take a while. And then they're gonna give him a little egg and he has to rehatch his soul or something. I don't know. I don't remember exactly the details of it. He has to raise it, and then it's gonna be a real spirit animal. India, in the human world, he's gonna have a spirit animal. If we do this, Jesus gets a spirit buddy, but a pet.
Cristina: He has to be in the animal.
Jack: No.
Cristina: What does that animal have to do with anything?
Jack: If the animal dies, he dies. So we'll always hold that over his head. We'll trap the animal in a cage and we'll tell him that he has to stay with us or kill the animal.
Cristina: That's the dumbest thing ever.
Jack: And because he's Jesus, he doesn't want the animal to die.
Cristina: What?
Jack: It also would kill him. Even if he wants to die, he doesn't. He's still Jesus. So we got him. He's alive against his will because that means that animal dies. Now he must live at all. This is a really good one, actually, Because Jesus told himself on earth, die. So we go ahead and we put him to being a spirit detective, and then he becomes human after he gets his little spirit why would he want.
Cristina: To do any of that?
Jack: And he hatches it, and he has a spirit egg that.
Cristina: What if he doesn't want to do any of that?
Jack: If he doesn't want to do it, we'll figure something else out. But if he did want to do it, we would get him. As soon as he hatches this egg, however many months, years down the line, we trap the animal. We trap it.
Cristina: How would we see it if it's a spirit animal?
Jack: No, we can. It's. It looks physical to us.
Cristina: How do you know?
Jack: I've seen all of this before. And then we catch it.
Cristina: Weren't they dead and they came back to life? So that would mean they would see it. Like.
Jack: Everybody sees it.
Cristina: You're positive?
Jack: Yes. It's like a weird alien creature. But look, now we have it. And they forever. Jesus has to listen to us because now this animal will be hurt. And he doesn't want that. And that is a huge trump card. This is a double whammy. He gets his body back, and we get a way to put a check on him if he does turn out to be overpowered.
Cristina: Unless he doesn't care.
Jack: Unless he doesn't care. But if he did care. Boom.
Cristina: Kabla, kablam, kablam.
Jack: If he does want to do it in order to get his body back, because I doubt he just wants to be dead, then we got him.
Cristina: And if he just wants to be.
Jack: Dead, then we'll figure something else out.
Cristina: That's very tricky. Okay.
Jack: And why would he just want to be dead?
Cristina: Because what if he just wanted to be dead back then?
Jack: If that was the case? But I highly doubt he was just a suicidal emoji.
Cristina: There's so many.
Jack: There are, but I doubt he was one of them.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: He was a ringleader. What kind of ringleaders? A suicidal emo. He's probably some jock douche wad at most.
Cristina: No, he's surrounded by them.
Jack: Probably be so easy to trick into doing this. He's like, bro, you could totally be a cop. Whoa, Goose cop. I'm super on board.
Cristina: Maybe.
Jack: You know, he'll totally be down. He doesn't care. He was down with whoever. That's the most hippie crap ever, dude. He's down for anything. He was like, that guy is a total.
Cristina: He was down to die.
Jack: Yes. But now, because we know he was even down to die. So in this case, we'll be like, hey, you're down to do this? And he'll be like, yeah, whatever. But then his rules are we don't hurt anybody. And that's when the animal comes in. It will be his fault directly if the animal gets hurt, and he doesn't want that. So we forever hold him immortal and with us. And we can hold that bird. And if he tries to do anything with. Against us, we kill the bird anyways. Killing him. Turning Jesus into our weapon. We're gonna turn Jesus into our weapon.
Cristina: Are you sure they give him a bird?
Jack: Yes, it comes from a spirit egg or something.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it hatches into a little blue furball thing.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, it looks like Furby. Oh, it's hideous. It's horrible.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But, yeah, it evolves and it's part of who you are.
Cristina: All right. That's an interesting plan.
Jack: It's definitely a way to go. Another way we could go is what you were mentioning a crossroads demon.
Cristina: Yes. Really?
Jack: That is. But again, this is a hard one because it's right up there with, like, using black magic in the case of a crossroads demon. Is he just going to deliver the soul of Christ back to the body of Christ in exchange for my soul 10 years from now?
Cristina: Well, we wouldn't sacrifice our souls when.
Jack: It comes to crossroad demons. Yeah.
Cristina: Why can't we just get someone else to do it and sacrifice their soul?
Jack: Oh, we could do that.
Cristina: You've got workers.
Jack: But, like, yes, 100% and they're down. So we'll just use one of them, one of the subhuman.
Cristina: So what could go wrong?
Jack: Well, the question here is we do this, we get the person, they do it. Would the demon bring the soul of Jesus back to the body of Jesus?
Cristina: Yeah. No. I don't know.
Jack: Why would he. Woody, why would a demon bring the soul of Jesus back to the body of Jesus?
Cristina: Maybe he'll do it for a certain amount of souls. Maybe he has a system like, oh, if you give me 10, it has.
Jack: To be worth the soul of Jesus. That's. That's the. The lopsided way here.
Cristina: Yes. He could have Jesus soul after Jesus dies.
Jack: So we're not even. Fair enough. He's bringing the soul of Jesus back, but temporarily, like, you get to keep the soul of Jesus, too, after he dies. Interesting.
Cristina: Does that work? I mean, that doesn't work for Jesus.
Jack: But he doesn't even know in, like, whatever. He was already apparently in h***.
Cristina: He was in h***.
Jack: That's how the demons got him out. Oh, when he dies after we pull him out of the thing.
Cristina: Oh, wait.
Jack: The problem is, when we take him out of stasis, he dies immediately.
Cristina: Ah. Okay. And that's why the demons.
Jack: We don't know how to undo stasis. We're just trying a bunch of other s***, huh? But it would work, right? His body's fresh.
Cristina: Yes. Okay, so we have to assume that Jesus soul is going to h***.
Jack: Yeah, we have to assume Jesus is going to h*** first for this plan to work.
Cristina: Or this demon would sneak into heaven just to get Jesus. So that's crazy.
Jack: Yeah, fair enough. Even if it's a whole entire espionage mission to us, it feels instant.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: In their abstract, outside of time, they could do a whole invasion, get the soul of Jesus from heaven, bring it. But, like, why would they do all that for my measly waxhole? And if they could do that, why haven't they already just done that?
Cristina: Okay, well, because it's in him right now.
Jack: Yeah, fair enough.
Cristina: It has to go somewhere else and then they can get it.
Jack: I don't think that. I don't think they're gonna risk it. I don't think they're gonna do. And they're just gonna keep the soul of Jesus down there? They're not gonna help. It's too valuable.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: It's too risky. What kind of a stupid demon would. Would you leave that guy doing that job if you got the soul of Jesus Christ somehow, and then you come in like, hey, where is it Bob? And Bob's like, well, this other guy was like, hey, I know I'm like a nobody, but I'll give you my soul if you bring Jesus and you can keep Jesus afterwards. And then it's like, well, that. No, I'm a nobody to begin with. So they're just like, why would you do that? For this, like, worthless other soul.
Cristina: That's where that guy get Jesus soul.
Jack: Yeah, but, like, what if Jesus figures out how to undo it? Ah, he's a slippery one, that Jesus.
Cristina: Okay, that's possible.
Jack: He's a slippery one, that Jesus.
Cristina: Last thing you want a good idea.
Jack: It does. It does. Okay, so we don't do the crossroads because it doesn't work out, or demons don't want to help, or it's too hard to get Jesus out of heaven because he didn't actually go to h***. Fine. What if we did alchemy and opened the gate?
Cristina: How would that help?
Jack: Well, then we go ahead and we pull Jesus out of the gate back into his body.
Cristina: Will that be that same Jesus? Wouldn't that be a different Jesus?
Jack: Well, we're gonna look for that same Jesus. We gotta go to the other side.
Cristina: To wherever it would be a Jesus without magic.
Jack: We're gonna bring him back to the place where magic happens. That's the point.
Cristina: And he'd be able to use the magic?
Jack: Yeah, he's from over there. Look, Edward lost his ability to use magic. But if you were to bring him back, he'd use magic. It's because over there is where magic is impossible, okay? It's the location, not the individual. Jesus would still be able to do magic on this side.
Cristina: Except there is no magic here. We are the other side. We just haven't figured out what is really going on. Because there is no magic.
Jack: It's all technology. Yeah, it's always technology.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Including black magic.
Cristina: Yes. So we haven't really figured. It's just a bunch of question marks.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real.
Cristina: So, I don't know. That plan doesn't sound bad. But don't we have to sacrifice something in that plan, too?
Jack: No, we'll get a Philosopher's Stone.
Cristina: Don't we have to sacrifice things to get the Philosopher's Stone?
Jack: We'll find an already made Philosopher's Stone.
Cristina: Where?
Jack: Don't know. We could find things. So we're good at finding things. We found a plethora of things.
Cristina: You think we'll find that?
Jack: I mean, we should be able to, shouldn't we?
Cristina: How?
Jack: That's the one thing we wouldn't find of all the things. Come on.
Cristina: Because that's complicated.
Jack: How?
Cristina: Like, isn't that made through many souls or something?
Jack: Right. Why would that mean that there isn't one to track down?
Cristina: Where would he even start?
Jack: I don't know. We found so many things. Where is this doubt coming from?
Cristina: Because this is a thing. And usually we find living things, not objects.
Jack: We will apply the logic we use to find living things to this one object.
Cristina: Because we're not object Hunters, but this.
Jack: Object will allow us to hunt a living thing back to life.
Cristina: It seems tricky, unless you have an idea where we would start looking for it.
Jack: Well, no, the idea would be that we know. We get the gist of how it works. We wouldn't just, hey, we're gonna go right now and find it. This is where it has to be this very moment. Obviously, an investigation would be run. We would figure out where it's most probably at, where we could find one of these. Then we would go retrieve it. I don't know off the top of my head, where it's like, hey, here's a map. This is where it is. I'd have it by now if that Were the case.
Cristina: But, like, do. Are we in a rush? Is Jesus about to die?
Jack: If we know Jesus only dies once we bring him out of the cryostasis.
Cristina: Okay, so he'll just stay there forever? Yeah.
Jack: He's already been there 2,000 years.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: He'll wait. He'll be fine.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The moment we take him out, we need to apply one of these things.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: In order to bring him out.
Cristina: I don't. Okay, that makes sense.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Do something. We don't have to do it quick. Okay.
Jack: No, there's no rush. But definitely pulling a soul from the other side of the gate. One way to go.
Cristina: A very odd way to go. I don't know how that's gonna work.
Jack: Okay, what do you mean?
Cristina: Because that's not from here. That's over there when he dies. The gate. Like, how do we get to the gate?
Jack: We're gonna do alchemy to open it.
Cristina: But we can't do alchemy here. Or at least not the same way.
Jack: We don't know that. We don't know that. We're gonna figure out if we can.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Have you tried alchemy to figure it out?
Cristina: No.
Jack: Then what are you making these assumptions based on? We'll find out.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: We'll find out. Find out. Many options. Now, obviously, the time travel option itself of, you know, use. Use time, go forward or back and solve it somehow. We go forward. Hopefully the technology's there. We go back, we find somebody who can solve the problem. But that might also be bullcrap if it turns out that they were all bullshitting to begin with.
Cristina: Oh, yes, man, that might be a good one.
Jack: Yeah. There is a cheat sheet. We could. By the way, another way the time travel could work out is if we go back in time to the moment we were gonna go back in time and tell ourselves it doesn't work out, or go back in time to where we landed to get Jesus in the first place. And then we tell him not to do it because it's not gonna work out either way. We can cut ourselves off at one point or another and stop this from ever happening.
Cristina: Let's not do that.
Jack: But different thing that we could do is we could just go into a universe that has Jesus not in cryostasis, and then go back in time in that universe and s***** up Jesus and bring that Jesus forward, Thus having two Jesuses, the cryostasis Jesus and the non cryostasis Jesus.
Cristina: We get the non cryostasis Jesus to bring back.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Why do we need two little. What do we Do.
Jack: I don't know. I don't know. But Jesus would be like, whoa, dude. And then he would bring himself back from the dead after we un. Cryostasis him and he dies, then he dies. Well, he's gonna die immediately after he's out of cryostasis. We just need somebody to bring him back to life somehow.
Cristina: And then Jesus is gonna do that.
Jack: Jesus will then bring Jesus back to.
Cristina: Life, and then he'll hopefully help us.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Which one?
Jack: Either or. We have two Jesus now. Jesus times two. In this case. Yeah. In this case, we end up with Jesus times two.
Cristina: Okay. That's the best plan I've ever heard.
Jack: This is pretty solid way to take this.
Cristina: That's going into a different world. Not world, universe.
Jack: We have to travel into a different universe to pull this one off.
Cristina: And do we have the technology?
Jack: Hopefully. I mean, we have the technology, and there's that giant rip in your backyard that takes us to universe three.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: So, like, we could definitely get there.
Cristina: From what we know about over there, I think Jesus is dead.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: From what we've seen on the Internet and stuff.
Jack: Oh, everything. No, everything is theoretical. That's why nothing is real.
Cristina: Oh. Nothing is. Oh, he may or may not be.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes. He may or may not be dead or may or may not even have even existed, so.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we could still investigate.
Jack: Yes. But also because nothing is a sure thing. There might just be. No. There might just be no Jesus over there because nothing is real over there. Everything is a lie. Everything is made up. Everything is a conspiracy theory.
Cristina: But he'd also be walking among them without them knowing.
Jack: That's fair.
Cristina: So I don't know how he'd find him, though.
Jack: Well, here's a different one. We could gather all the Dragon Balls. Again, we're good at finding things.
Cristina: You think you'll find Dragon Balls?
Jack: If we're gonna. If any of these other options are gonna work, it's as plausible that we would find the Dragon Balls, get the Dragon Balls together, summon Shenron, and then get Shenron to bring Jesus back. And Shenron has no stake in it, so he will just bring Jesus back.
Cristina: How? How would we even look for the first Dragon Ball?
Jack: We're gonna find people who have already found some Dragon Balls, and then use their methods of fighting the Dragon Balls. It's just a matter of figuring out what clues tell us that somebody has Dragon Balls and then slowly stalking those people.
Cristina: What?
Jack: I got this all planned out. We're gonna figure it out.
Cristina: Okay, so we're gonna be spying on people who may have the Dragon Balls.
Jack: Yes. Anybody who's found more than one is looking for them. They spread out evenly throughout the world. Anybody who has more than one is looking for them.
Cristina: Yes. And they're going to be obvious.
Jack: We're going to figure it out. We have the ability to surveil everyone. Okay, what so we can surveil. We're going to. One of these is going to work. And when we know for sure, we know for sure which of these is the one that's going to be the best.
Cristina: And the Dragon Balls are on Earth.
Jack: The Dragon Balls are on Earth. One set of the Dragon Balls are in Earth. There's a different set that is spread out throughout the galaxy.
Cristina: Okay, and how many balls are there?
Jack: Seven.
Cristina: Seven. Okay, that doesn't sound so bad.
Jack: No. And if somebody has more than one, that means they know how to get some.
Cristina: And why would they want to help us?
Jack: They're not gonna help us. We're just gonna follow them until they get all the Dragon Balls and then we're gonna s***** them.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Like we're Team Rocket.
Jack: Good old Team Rocket plan. Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Anyways, so look, this is definitely helpful. We. We have some plans, we have some ways of action to deal with Jesus. We're going to investigate these ways. We'll look into them, see which ones are the most effective, potentially which ones might pan out. Well, potentially.
Cristina: Love it.
Jack: And we're gonna try to bring Jesus Christ back from this cryostasis we put.
Cristina: Him in, hopefully with another Jesus.
Jack: Yeah, that would be great.
Cristina: Or we might have a groundhog fight.
Jack: That would be great too, if we could just throw Steve Adam and they have an epic battle.
Cristina: Two Jesus versus Steve.
Jack: Two Jesus versus Steve. Well, look, this is a topic we have never discussed before, although many of the topics in here have been discussed before, which means that there are episodes that could be found with similar topics in some of these. When it comes to time travel, parallel universe. When it comes to. There's a whole episode, there's several episodes about death, questions about death theory and the afterlife. The afterlife. All of that stuff. So much stuff going on. You guys can find all of that stuff. You can find us on social media as well Twitter and Instagram and on Facebook at just combo pod.
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Cristina: That's crazy. That's crazy.
Jack: You're supposed to feel full.
Cristina: No, this has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye. But yeah, that's f***** up. People started to record and so many fakers were outed because of proof with proof. Actual interactions of imma. Say, I did this if you don't do what I want.
Cristina: Is it a good thing or a bad thing that we're just recording everything? Like, it seems to be helpful, but also we're. We don't like being spied on.
Jack: Look, it saved the guys that were innocent. And it's continuously happening. On the flip side, it looks to the women who are actually being victimized like it's dying again. Yeah, the movement is dissipating and it's entirely the fault of the women who are lying, who are getting caught lying. If you're gonna f****** lie about it, sell it so that the women who are truly innocent and getting raped can get their voice out. But you're so garbage at lying and you don't care about your gender. The f*** at all, definitely that you're just screwing over people actually getting raped because you wanted some money or attention or some bullshit.
Cristina: Probably attention. I don't know.
Jack: Ridiculous. Super ridiculous.
Cristina: Yes. But the camera thing. Weird.
Jack: No, it helped George Floyd's case, I guess. Although we had video before and nothing was happening. It doesn't really. I don't know.
Cristina: When does it change things?
Jack: Change things at George. I don't know.
Cristina: It's random.
Jack: It's random.
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