Rambling 220: The Sea People on Olympus

With most of the narrative of The Sea People uncovered and the truth behind Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church quickly being revealed it seems that the mystery of Atlantis and Unicorns is ultimately solved. Except the duo continue to be pestered by the feeling that The Sea People were actually hiding from something bigger and badder than they are. Today they continue trying to uncover what that might be!

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Topics Discussed:

• Zoroastrianism
• The Sea People
• Persia
• Mount Olympus
• Pegasus Chimera
• Mass Migration

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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.

Jack: Going live in 5, 4.

Cristina: What does live mean?

Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. I'm your host, Jack.

Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina. There's no way you can do that.

Jack: Voice throughout the whole episode, like a. Like a 1960s excited baseball announcer or commentator.

Cristina: Yeah. No way.

Jack: There goes Johnny. No, man. It couldn't be normal for people to speak like that there. That's weird.

Cristina: You think it wasn't? What if it was normal?

Jack: It couldn't have been. It could.

Cristina: No, it could happen.

Jack: No, there's a. There's a story behind that. I forgot what the h*** it was, but I know that it was 100% not normal. It was like rich people talk wealthy. We don't want to sound like the bezants, you know, so you sound like this high pretentious thing. I think maybe they were imitating a specific culture or something. I don't know. But I know that it was like, rich people talk.

Cristina: No way. Yeah, because then they would have kept that talk. Do they still do that? I hope not.

Jack: I mean, maybe.

Cristina: But then once the poor people see there is people talking like that, well, would it. Why wouldn't they just copy?

Jack: I mean, I guess what we're really looking at is the dissolving of language barriers and accents because of all the technology. So even how people sound is getting complex. Before, you could have just heard somebody's voice and you could tell, like pinpoint exactly where they're from because a region was so them. Just them, them, their people. Wherever you grew up was obvious because you didn't have access to everybody else in the world all the time. Anything that's going away, that's definitely dissolving as everybody has access to the Internet and they communicate way more. Eventually. The point, like, everybody's gonna be a single culture as everything gets super hyper duper mixed little by little, will continue to capture countries in a NATO like way, first with treaties for military action, and then have some sort of global United States, European Union equivalent. That's with all the countries in the world after we establish some sort of giant global government thing run by TikTok.

Cristina: Fear. That's the fear.

Jack: Oh, no.

Cristina: TikTok is gonna. Is. What is it? The Illuminati, I guess whoever the New World Order, whatever the name of the group is now it's TikTok. TikTok.

Jack: TikTok is running the world.

Cristina: It's Running the world. It's controlling my Google. It knows where I live.

Jack: It know. Oh my God, it's so ridiculous. TikTok guy.

Cristina: Poor TikTok guy.

Jack: It doesn't even make sense. Like they were so alien about how they were approaching that.

Cristina: Well. Yep. It's his fault for being tiny, I guess.

Jack: I guess. Right. Like how crazy was questions they were giving this guy. But I do think that culture is completely dissolving. It's disappearing little by little. The Internet is exaggerated. It is gonna definitely blow everything away. Weird things like TikTok where everybody gets to share everything unfiltered in every direction. Always crazy. That's. That's thing that's powerful. Facebook had. It was used by everybody. But it was sort of divided in a way where you're kind of exposed to your language's section. So if you're in it in English, you're gonna be exposed to English things.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And that's how you ultimately end up grouped in different.

Cristina: TikTok is very random.

Jack: TikTok seems to just be way more cross those lines where you can access different country stuff without even looking for it.

Cristina: Like, yeah, something from somewhere else will pop up.

Jack: Yeah. If you just like one thing over here, it's going to open the entire window of things in that direction.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: True.

Jack: Very different. And I think technology. I think technology is gonna do a great job of there. Look, it happens. What the technology destroys the world. It possibly did happen. I'm still twisting my mind over what it is technology wise that we're talking about that Jehovah was working with. I am certain that the reason behind population technology, that nobody invented population technology with the intention of population technology. I think they invented population technology as a byproduct of repopulation technology. I think some sort of tragedy might have actually happened. And this technology was originally conceived of in order to repopulate the earth. But then after that mission is accomplished, society is reestablished, everything is going nice and smooth. You use the technology for other things. It happens all the time. In World War II, you invent a bunch of horrible evil things that now are just like casual things you use that improve life one way or another.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So that's the same principle being applied here.

Cristina: Like they have other inventions besides the whole making people.

Jack: That the making people was to solve a problem and that the problem that that is trying to solve has already been solved.

Cristina: So there have other things.

Jack: So you repurpose it. And what do you repurpose it for? You have exorbitant technology. You have super advanced. Wait a minute.

Cristina: What, what, what? What?

Jack: The people who had this technology to begin with were the sea people, Right?

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: So the sea people have the Garden of Eden population technology. Assuming it was originally made as repopulation technology to plug up some tragedy. Some tragedy must have happened. Could the flood have been that tragedy? Because we know that Atlantis sank, so did it? Did. The reason the evacuation happened in the first place wasn't to hide. Like. Yes. Go somewhere more hidden. Why not? But the move happened because the flood happened. But that doesn't make sense because Jesus and the flood don't coincide. No, but the move seems to be happening.

Cristina: But the flood happened and people were still alive and everywhere else. Like why would they need to repopulate a machine that repopulates?

Jack: So it had to be. But yeah, no, you're totally right because the flood was actually just a couple of thousand years ago, while the sea people are descendant of some people from a million years ago that were at their technological peak at that point. Yeah, so that's kind of crazy.

Cristina: I don't know. Why would they have it?

Jack: Why would they have that? Why would they. What kind of reason?

Cristina: Maybe they can't populate anymore. Maybe they can't have children.

Jack: Something happened in their genetic pool that went wrong.

Cristina: Yeah, they do a lot of weird genetic stuff. Unicorns, Pegasus. Maybe something went wrong.

Jack: Messing with their own genetic code to make themselves godlike.

Cristina: Yeah, they can live forever. I mean maybe that's how the whole unicorn magic came from. It's not really that anyone with alicorn is living forever. It's the people who hang out with unicorns look like they live forever because they probably might. They might because they have the tech to do so.

Jack: This is an interesting argument because this would bring up the idea that something like the Greek gods. Right. So this is what these sea people were seen as. They were seen as these colossal greater other people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: You know, fascinating, intriguing part of the Persian territory, but their own way more futuristic thing. You'd had to cross all of Persia, all of Persia into the Persian Gulf to the head of the Persian Gulf. And that's where you'd come across the Persian Gulf oasis with these people that were bronze skin, perfect physique, God like highly advanced technologies beyond. You're living in a Hudson like stone palaces and crap like that. And these people are just men's over exaggerated futuristic technology. There had to be if something went wrong. Yeah, they mess themselves up in a way maybe because that's what would happen. Right. The. The idea of the grazes that they've. They don't need their bodies because technology has gone so far. So all they need is their minds to best optimize how they use said technology. So their heads get really big and their bodies get really small. Technology has destroyed them.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: So they end up relying on technology by default because they just got used to that way of life. This is normal. But if they didn't have it, that's a screwed gray.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: That same idea would apply here. These are people who have modified their body, but something had to give. If you're continuously modifying content, so they sterilized the ability. Because look at it like this. You're looking for the most efficient way of being.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: You program those parameters into a computer and it's going to give everybody that. Then everybody has the most efficient way of being.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Now you've worked out differences. Genetically reproduction could not happen. It's too many similar things in everybody's DNA.

Cristina: Oh, it would be dangerous to do that.

Jack: It would be dangerous, yes.

Cristina: Well, dangerous in like, how? If we were to try, like siblings, try to have children.

Jack: Yes. You'd have that kind of a problem going on. There'd be. And these people who are the next generation would be of a smaller group of people. Anyways. You got to keep in mind that we're not talking about Persia as a whole. We're talking about just the Persian Gulf oasis. This is a city. City. That's it.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: To see people. We're so few.

Cristina: A city. I think that makes sense, though. What? So yeah. Maybe it's just populate themselves.

Jack: Yeah. To reproduce.

Cristina: Yeah. Instead of like because of some disaster. Like they dealt with disasters forever. Forever.

Jack: Yeah. There's nothing that got in their way. They survived whatever destroyed the Earth and led to the flood. They just moved. Actually, no, they just lived underwater, I suppose, because the Persian Gulf oasis was also claimed to be underwater for a period of time. Like it could just. Whether the stories included its ability to just go underwater, that's something that city was capable of. Now, I don't think the city was just opting into going underwater. I think the city was designed in such a way and the people were advanced in such a way that they somehow had some form of a protective barrier or something that allowed the tides to rise above their city and them to be protected.

Cristina: Yes. Like some. What you would imagine Atlantis in a. Or whatever.

Jack: The technology that they used, knowing that tides would rise, they developed it knowing the tides would rise so they wouldn't have to move. So they developed that with years knowing, oh, yeah. The tide around this time is gonna come, and our city is gonna be engulfed. But that's no problem. We'll have our best scientists work on it, and we'll get something working. They come up with the force field now they need to go hide because of whatever XY reason. And they're gonna go to Atlantis. They already have the technology. This wasn't a crazy, difficult, complicated thing to do.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: They send some people, go and get things building. You got robots, make it build quick. Put a force field over it. We got a city. Let's go.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: They already had it.

Cristina: They already had that technology.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Interesting.

Cristina: You think they can live forever or something?

Jack: I don't know if they can live forever, but I think when we're talking about the Greek gods, when we're talking about angels, I think all those times we've been talking about the same group of people, I think the gods of history, the truth of what lies in those narratives lies behind the sea people and who they might be. I think that's the reality of the matter, because of the fact that so many weird locations. So in its stories that sound so familiar to other things and narratives. The way these dots connect is ridiculous. From the mountain to the unicorns, to the salesman to the. The. The. The. The church involved in freaking everything. And how Jesus trails back to the same place.

Cristina: Like the Greek gods to any of this.

Jack: Well, when Persia was expanding its reach, there was an exact moment when they stopped in front of Greece and said, we go no further. Until a priest from the Persian religion of Zoroastra let me. I don't want to butcher this Zoroastrian.

Cristina: I think it has to be. I think it has to be butchered.

Jack: Yeah, it has to be. It's really complicated, their religion. A priest comes forward and explains that in that direction is the sacred passage to where the gods are. And he was talking about Olympus, Mount Olympus. To his people that didn't want to push forward into Greece, he's telling them, no. There is one objective that I need you guys to go this direction for.

Cristina: It's a reach.

Jack: We need to reach Mount Olympus, which.

Cristina: Could really be Mount.

Jack: No, it's Mount Olympus because Mount Olympus is where he knows to meet the sea people.

Cristina: So they hang out in Mount Olympus too. Are they just interested in mountains?

Jack: No, he had. He said the passageway to see them. He didn't say they're gonna chill up there. He had key words.

Cristina: They also chill on that other mountain. That's in Greece.

Jack: Yeah, Athos Athos?

Cristina: Yes. Are they just hanging out in a bunch of Greece mountains?

Jack: I think all the mountains are passageways.

Cristina: And the world or just Greece.

Jack: Not. Fair enough. There's something in all of these places. I'm assuming there's a shrine at the top of Athos that's working as some sort of gateway.

Cristina: Yeah, but is it all mountains?

Jack: I think so, but not necessarily. Because here's the commonality that's bugging me a little bit. There is a. So at the top of Mount Olympus is a church called the chapel of the prophet Elias.

Cristina: What does that mean?

Jack: Doesn't mean anything significant other than the fact that there's a Catholic church at the top of Mount Athos. An orthodox church. Again, quite consistently now we have mentions. So this priest again from this.

Cristina: Okay, it's not every mountain, but it's any mountain that has a church on it.

Jack: There seems to be a consistency with the churches. There definitely seems to be a consistency with the churches. Churches in high places. There's something weird about that. And that again, what's a church in a high place? What's a mountain if not a pyramid? What's a pyramid if not a man made mountain? The fact that the pyramids got a little pointy thingy with a target and technology that says we can warp and like, you know, we're seeing sort of similarities here too. At churches and top of mountains. There's similarities happening.

Cristina: There is, there is.

Jack: I don't think that like it's. I don't know how to put it. I think that there is some form of teleportation happening for sure.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: But I also believe that it's not just to their current location in an inaccessible depth of the ocean, protected by some force field and defended easily versus our ignorant primitive scanning technology. But it's also reaching outer space. So it's the same thing with these. There's somehow. Let's assume that there's something like this on a. On the moon.

Cristina: And they can go to the moon.

Jack: No, that there. Yeah, there's some structure on the moon on top of a mountain and that you could teleport. They send there and then they can bounce back to Earth. So that's the kind of satellite technology that would be happening.

Cristina: Okay, so they're going from one mountain to another.

Jack: But it happens instantly. Yeah, happens instantly.

Cristina: And if it's not a mountain, it's a pyramid.

Jack: Yeah. Because that pyramid is just a man made mountain. And there's probably efficient locations where some mountains were already located and where they weren't the pyramids went okay. Interesting.

Cristina: Weird.

Jack: Yes.

Cristina: So Olympus is a church.

Jack: Olympus has a church on top.

Cristina: So they wanted to go to Greece, though, to take over.

Jack: They wanted to take over that place. The Persians wanted to take over that mountain.

Cristina: What makes Mount Olympic so special though? That it's where the gods are versus the other mountains.

Jack: It's a ridiculously tall mountain, I guess. I think it's the tallest mountain in Greece.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: Yeah. But that's not even the tallest mountain in the world. This is a tall mountain.

Cristina: Yeah. Next to them.

Jack: Yeah. And the issue is that with the Persians struggling to get. Were they trying to capture it because they felt that the sea people were part of them or were they trying to capture. Because maybe they've been trying to get to the sea people who live on their lands.

Cristina: Probably that. And this they know that's the gateway.

Jack: That's a gateway. And they didn't even have a clue about Athos. But actually, fun fact.

Cristina: What?

Jack: This happened before the gateway to Athos was told to marry. Because this is happening in 800 and 480 BC. 480 BC. And Mary happened in 33 AD.

Cristina: BC. AD I don't know which is one.

Jack: Okay, so BC four. Okay. This happened 480 years ago. Okay, 80 years ago. I'm so stupid. This happened 480 years before the birth of Christ.

Cristina: Okay, yes, the mountain.

Jack: The mountain. Mount Olympus.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then Mary happened 33 years after the birth of Christ.

Cristina: Okay. So they had that on that mountain before Jesus.

Jack: They were trying to capture Olympus before Athos became of any significance. They just moved around Athos. It wasn't important yet. Or if it was. They weren't aware of it.

Cristina: They weren't aware of it. Yeah.

Jack: They went to Olympus instead.

Cristina: Did anything actually happen, though?

Jack: They pushed forward and conquered quite a lot, but I'm saying a lot in the amount of time it was four. Because then they were. They were being defeated by Alexander. They were just being pushed back farther. They couldn't hold it. And then they just. From that point forward, they started to collapse entirely. Now, let me stress how literally I am stating that once they started pushing in to capture the mountain, everyone else put on their greatest defense, but only at that moment. And that's how the Persian empire fell. I'll repeat, they were slowly taking over everything and beating everybody, incredibly easy. Taking over all the territories in the Middle East. The Persians were eating it all up. As soon as they made their move towards the mountain. Every country that they had taken over, including the people they were Surrounded by that they had not invaded, put on their greatest defenses and defeated the Pers Empire.

Cristina: With some help. With some help. I bet they might not know who helped them, but I think it's obvious who helped them.

Jack: Fascinating. No?

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: This is all historic fact, by the way. I'm giving you dates so you can go look. Anybody who doesn't believe this, you could just go online and look at the history. 480 BC. Tell me what happened.

Cristina: They had help. They just don't know it. Like they'll say like yeah, we did it. But like no, they had something that looked like magical help. More like advanced tech help.

Jack: They did. They just swiftly got wrecked. Swiftly. They swiftly got wrecked.

Cristina: They were fighting some Persians.

Jack: They were fighting. Yeah, they were fighting fellow Persians. They didn't know it.

Cristina: They just didn't know it. Exactly.

Jack: But. But le problem.

Cristina: What?

Jack: The sea people wouldn't help the Greek.

Cristina: Why? If that's their mountain, it's not like they're helping them do anything besides protect their own mountain.

Jack: Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. So they're. So then the plan failed. If you can be reached. Right, and so here's my question. Here's my question. Not all of these work all the ways. Right. I'm just trying to comprehend the technology right now. And follow me on this little tangent. Was the reason that Mount Athos was of no concern because Mount Athos was irrelevant and that you couldn't send her to Mount Olympus because now that was useless because Mount Olympus directly connected to the Persian Gulf oasis while Mount Athos directly connects to Atlantis. They're direct shots.

Cristina: Right.

Jack: And there's a two point bounce from Cyprus to Athos and then you travel to the top of Athos after getting to the base of. So there is teleportation technology, but it's also short ranged. Then the pyramids are long ranged. That makes sense, right?

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: So you can just have a. Here. This place is directly, maybe not even directly connected, but it's not gonna take you off of Earth if you're just going to some sort of church place.

Cristina: But doesn't like everyone goes to exactly one location.

Jack: It seems to be the case as far as we can tell. I'm just making a guess on how this technology would work if we were to see it. And like. Yeah, because it's like one to one mentions the Persians are pushing forward to get to Mount Olympus. But Mary was told the gold amount to go to Mount Athos.

Cristina: Yes. Okay. I think that makes sense.

Jack: Now don't get me wrong. Mount Athos Is. I mean, it doesn't. If you were to bounce from Cyprus to anywhere, why would you make a whole other. Unless they're both accessible locations that still work. We just don't have two mentions of one place for the same thing.

Cristina: Two mentions?

Jack: Yeah, we don't have two mentions of these places working the same way. We just know that post Jesus death it's Atlantis and pre Jesus birth, it's Persian Gulf Oasis. And we know that pre Jesus we have this mention by the priest of that Persian ancient Iranian religion suggesting that Mount Olympus is the way to the sea people. Important information is that this priest also uses the term sea people. So the Persians, we're still in the.

Cristina: Sea of Persia or whatever.

Jack: Not just that, but the Egyptians are the ones to come up with this name. The Persians were the ones using it the same way when they were called Persia still and specifically during this period of time. And specifically this one priest, because he knew about them. He knew about them. He knew something that maybe the rest of them didn't. Or again, they could have been looking for these people that lived on their land for God knows how long. And they're like, how do we get to them? And then they dug.

Cristina: Somehow they knew. But how do you even get that information?

Jack: How do you get that information?

Cristina: That's strange.

Jack: And here is the crazy part. It fits the actual inscribed information that's on these buildings of the Mayans and the Egyptians. Like, it still fits the logic. And if it's a public records as well, it kind of all works. Except like, how did you guys get it? We know that the sea people directly told these people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: How did you guys know?

Cristina: I don't know his connect. He's in a religion. Religion people talk to each other. Yeah, I guess some wild party, they're like, hey, did you know about this mountain, man?

Jack: Is that what it is? I bet religion does kind of work like that, right? They have these conferences where they share the secrets and stuff.

Cristina: Who knows, there could be something like that happening. Interesting, because every religion seems to be covering up some weird thing that they don't want anyone else to know about.

Jack: Like, and so the. If this is the case and they're trying to ultimately discover something that's hidden by who? The Catholic Church? And what's at the top of the freaking mountain that they're trying to get to? Christian church, man. Yeah, it's always the case. It's always the case. And they're trying to get to. What? What are they doing? Trying to get to the people who are Protecting the passage.

Cristina: But when they were trying to do that, there was probably not a church there at that time.

Jack: Fascinating point.

Cristina: Because the churches were made after Jesus.

Jack: Yes. So then this access point must have been exposed somehow. It doesn't require a church, then.

Cristina: No, the church is just people protecting the secret.

Jack: Yes. Oh, it's kind of the gathering building. The church is a meeting place.

Cristina: Yeah. Like they all know about what's happening. They're probably not involved in what's happening. They get to know about it and they get to keep it a secret. A secret and protect it. Because knowing about it, I think, I guess, would be a big deal for them. Like, they're just happy to know.

Jack: So then what structure is up there? There's nothing out there. There's nothing up there. In 480, before Christ is born, there's nothing up there.

Cristina: Because their teleportation probably doesn't look like anything, because only they could probably use it, so.

Jack: So even if he got up there, it'd be useless.

Cristina: Yeah, it would be. Nothing there. Kind of like the. That on the other mountain. There's just Athos. It's just the. The top of that mountain is a. What is it? That no one could enter it. That area on top.

Jack: What sacred.

Cristina: The sacred area where they hid the Russian. Yes, the summit.

Jack: Yeah, the very top.

Cristina: There's nothing on that summit except for a Russian Bible there.

Jack: Yeah, there's Russian Bible and that Bible.

Cristina: Russian, yeah.

Jack: No, there's like two other things up there, but yeah.

Cristina: What? Whatever. But. Yes, you can't go on that.

Jack: But there's nothing there.

Cristina: There's nothing there. Exactly. Like, if you went on that, there would be nothing. Yeah, you need something else. Like even Mary needed something else when she went up there. She had her horse, which might help. And also all the stories involve the horses, so.

Jack: The horses.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Oh, crap.

Cristina: So you're not going there alone to quote, unquote, teleport?

Jack: Did Zeus come down on a horse? On a horse? If Zeus came down on a horse, then we know that the Greeks were actually talking about the sea people too. And that's why we'd never heard them specifically use the term sea people.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Still referred to the Greek gods as these ruthless, overpowered beings, but also that they could kill each other. So they were mortal? They were mortal. They were just gods compared to us. Does that sound familiar? That sounds like the sea people. They're just mortals, but they're gods compared to us.

Cristina: It's not just him riding a horse. They all rode Horses. There was a stable, there's a massive stable on Mount Olympus of Pegasus, of.

Jack: Oh my God, you're kidding me.

Cristina: That's where they keep their flying horses on Mount Olympus. Although they talked about seeing them on Mount Athos because that's how they travel.

Jack: That's how they travel.

Cristina: But there are no horses there. You gotta go there with the horse and you gotta leave with the horse.

Jack: Yes. Interesting, interesting, interesting. So the man. Okay, assuming that the. The unicorn is really just a genetically modified shire horse with goat like behave, mountain goat like behavior, allowing it to just scale a mountain with a person on its back effortlessly. We have to assume that a Pegasus is also just some sort of miracle of genetic engineering. And they truly have a horse with extremely light bone density that allows a pair of ginormous wings to legitimately let itself lift up itself off the ground. And that's how these people who've also modified themselves to be nearly.

Cristina: Or maybe the wings are more for show.

Jack: You think it's still a unicorn magic thing? Like, I guess the wings magic.

Cristina: Not magic, but like, maybe they travel like the unicorns. They're like made like mountain goats. Like they can travel on locations that other things can't travel like goats, because that's such a great example. But the wings don't make them actually fly because that would be crazy. Like you never hear about stories of look at that horse in the sky or anything.

Jack: But also they would be the only people with them. And those horses aren't going out randomly.

Cristina: No, but it's still like us. Like having a poodle. A horse with wings would be like having a poodle. It's just a very fancy horse.

Jack: It's a fancy unicorn.

Cristina: Fancy unicorn, yes. It's even fancier looking. Yeah, that's what I think. Because there are no stories of these things flying. They're just, they're there.

Jack: Well, the stories of Mount Athos are actually. No, you're right, they're there.

Cristina: They're just up there.

Jack: They never saw them fly in with the pegasus. No, they would just be there with the pegasus.

Cristina: Yes. There's no true story about these flying horses flying.

Jack: Fascinating point that I did not notice before. They're always just kind of walking around. They're already stationary by the time they're seen.

Cristina: Yeah, always. Always. These are just horses.

Jack: Yeah, they're just weird looking horses.

Cristina: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think. I think that makes sense.

Jack: So then there's still a portal of some sort of.

Cristina: Yes. Maybe do it still.

Jack: Because they're not literally flying on to anything. No, there must still be. Then why do they need the freaking horse?

Cristina: I guess to travel the world? Because, like, everyone uses something to travel on this side. Like, maybe they don't. Like, that's what they use to travel here once they're here to visit and hang out on the normal Earth side of things. Yeah. Like they're not gonna drive around a car when everyone's riding horses. They're gonna have their fancy horse.

Jack: Interesting. Yeah, I suppose. So they adapt it accordingly.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they know people walking around on horses. So they just get the coolest, best looking horses.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: They got unicorns and Pegasus.

Cristina: It's just like this is the coolest horse.

Jack: Yeah. Because they're the best people. And so everybody sees the gods with these things.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: While now they just probably have some overpowered car and we're just like, wow.

Cristina: Look at that spaceship.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. Like maybe they're just among us and we don't know. Right.

Cristina: Yeah. Because it just looks more futuristic than us. Because they have that.

Jack: Yeah. Cooler and more unique. Just overall better.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: All the stats better. We're like, wow, man. I don't even know how he could afford to make that. It must be infinity money. And really, like, money isn't a concept he worries about.

Cristina: No.

Jack: Because he has some Replicators. He just pumped this out of one shot.

Cristina: Because who knows, maybe they had cars with the crazy technology they had a million years ago.

Jack: They were so far beyond what we consider transportation.

Cristina: So if they're going to travel around normal people, they know what we're doing. Why would they?

Jack: My question is, how are they still even interact? There's no. Look at this.

Cristina: Just.

Jack: Just think about what I'm about to say. A million years ago, they were. They were super futuristic. Only 2000 years ago did the Jesus times happen. So basically, still a million years back from that point, these people were so ridiculously advanced that it would look like magic to us right now.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Right.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So they've had a million years since then to advance themselves to then get to the time of 480 BC when some random dude somehow found out about them and he went ahead and decided to go try to take over Mount Olympus. And then effortlessly was abused and the empire destroyed.

Cristina: Yes. They made it look like magic.

Jack: They made it look like magic. It was just like a swift rape that just. Oof. You're not getting it.

Cristina: They didn't make it look like magic. They made it so natural. No one questioned.

Jack: No one questioned that. It just looked like my enemies got.

Cristina: Intelligent and better yeah, but no, they're that out of runs. They can make it look like anything.

Jack: They just turned the tide. The second that they made a move for the mountain, they were winning every battle, man.

Cristina: This is.

Jack: This is crazy. They were winning every single battle. There was no defeat. They were the Persian Empire pressing into the everything. They were everything, all of it. The Middle east was theirs. And then they tried to make a single move into Greece towards Mount Olympus and lost the first battle. Couple of days later, lost the second one. Couple of days later, lost the next one. Before long it took maybe two, three years and they were starting to lose territory in general, entire countries being reclaimed. What? Are you kidding me?

Cristina: I mean it's so natural looking. That's pretty advanced.

Jack: That's crazy. So there's some nuts defense going on. Yeah, there's something on Mount Olympus being protected for sure. It's some sort of a stable or maybe not even. No, just another location.

Cristina: It's just the story is the stable where God's Pegasus are hanging out on that mountain.

Jack: But there's two different stories that line up perfectly. Mount Athos and mount. Now my question is, are there other religions with these stories of mountains and the gods coming down from there? And I have a very interesting other example of this being the case from very long ago.

Cristina: They're all very long ago.

Jack: Now this we're talking maybe a couple of thousand years before climbing that mountain. Yes. To talk to who?

Cristina: God. See the meeting point.

Jack: Mm.

Cristina: Also, Odin I don't think hangs out on a mountain, but he does ride a horse.

Jack: Interesting. Interesting.

Cristina: And it's a huge horse. It's also Loki's child, but.

Jack: Whoa. He rides his grandson.

Cristina: Yes, yes. That's a weird story. I love it. Loki turned into a horse.

Jack: That's bomb.

Cristina: To have sex with a horse. A male horse is beautiful. And then he gave birth to this giant horse that is now Odin's horse.

Jack: Yes. Fantastic.

Cristina: How can you beat these stories?

Jack: This is crazy.

Cristina: Why isn't more people Norse? Like their stories are amazing.

Jack: The Nordic people had some nut stories.

Cristina: Yes. But whatever. The God has the horse. That's special.

Jack: Yes. Yeah, I guess in times when the planet was on horses, it was just. It made more sense to blend in as hard as possible. And also stand out.

Cristina: Exactly. Still stand out because I think it had like six legs or something. Like it was something else that made it unique.

Jack: But also they're showing off to other.

Cristina: Yes, other. Yeah. Like if no one else is riding around a six legged horse. Look at me.

Jack: Now in these instances it looks like we're talking about scenarios where people are. These. These quote, gods, unquote, are more or less the same power level. Let's say it seems in all scenarios, every religion has a more or less. You have the big Kahuna God and then you have the smaller gods. In Christianity, we call those the angels. But it's the same concept. These overpowered, perfect beings.

Cristina: Like, their power level isn't even, like that much lower either.

Jack: Yeah, it's all equal.

Cristina: It's all. Yeah, I mean, it's all above us. So it all is equal in that way. Like how much higher they are from us.

Jack: Yeah. But they're equal to each other in seemingly every aspect. Like all the angels and all the gods of Norse mythology and all the gods of Greek mythology. I think they, in clean fights would even out.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And I think that's because we're talking about the same people. I think we're talking about the same people with the same level of technological advancement. And that's why we see the similarities with these things, mountains and horses and stuff like that.

Cristina: Yeah, that's cool.

Jack: Christians have the same story, but so do the Greek. They have the same story. The mountain.

Cristina: There's always a mountain.

Jack: There's always a mountain. The mountain is how you get to the sea people. The sea people don't live on the mountain. That's just how you get to the.

Cristina: Sea people or you see the people.

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: Because you don't really get to the sea people. They come to you.

Jack: They come to you. That's actually quite literally expressed with Mount Athos, that whole narrative.

Cristina: Yes. They come to you through the mountain.

Jack: Yes. But you can't get to them.

Cristina: Yes. Except for Mary.

Jack: Yes. And there's a very heavenly idea behind that. Right. That does feel like, oh, wow. They come down from a place that doesn't exist in our plane. And like, it totally does. Somewhere still a partition technology. But it looks like what they just showed up from nowhere. The peak of the mountain, the summit.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They come down from the heavens to us. Yeah, that's. I can see how these narratives came into being.

Cristina: Yes, I can see it. Oh, so good you figured that out. That's interesting.

Jack: Yeah. So the gods of history are just these really advanced. We always thought they were aliens.

Cristina: Humans with fancy pets.

Jack: Yes, Fancy pets. Because of fancy tech.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: And they're showing off to each other. Some of them live over here, some of them live over there. All of this is happening before they have to go and disappear.

Jack: They go move together. They go Live together.

Cristina: That's what you think.

Jack: I mean, where are they now?

Cristina: Like, are they all in that one location or could there be other locations?

Jack: Well, there would have to be locations where they would not be interacted by us. But I suppose if you could just hide your cities, there's probably a bunch of places. Yeah, we're just talking about the one.

Cristina: That we know about, the one that's very heavily protected.

Jack: Yes. But there's probably others. Maybe that's where the concept of Wakanda comes from. Maybe that's based on the idea, the principle of, like. Yes. Chances are that these people have gone to other places, built society, and protected themselves the same way. If you could protect yourself from the pressure of the entire ocean on you, you could definitely create a nice little light trick to seem invisible.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Like you could disappear in plain sight. They're probably everywhere.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Again, it comes back to the question that if. If I spoke to an ant, would it know I'm trying to talk to it, and if it did, would I know? It answered like, they are not bothered by us and we are not capable of bothering them.

Cristina: Yes. There's no way. There's just one city of people that.

Jack: Are advanced unless they can't reproduce.

Cristina: But even if they can't reproduce, they'd make more of themselves because they need to.

Jack: Would they, though? The question is, if you're a God, would you want more of you or would you want more of that just for you? I don't know if they're just people. Also, we don't know this for a fact. The one detail of we don't know what other creatures emotions would be like our emotions entirely based on how we evolved. Maybe they feel things that we don't have any concept of and vice versa.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: So this is all just basing it on our human beliefs and emotions that they would be the same, but they took a different route and got there in a different way, and they were part of a different lineage. What were you gonna say?

Cristina: That they also didn't treat us like ants either. At least not to the Egyptians or the Mayans. They saw they can get something from.

Jack: And many other civilizations that seem to just collapse under the weight of the technology given to them.

Cristina: Yeah. So it's not the same.

Jack: No, they were. They were trying to share something too far ahead for people not ready.

Cristina: Although some people were, which I think some people were. Happened, and now they're not around. But I don't think it's because they died off or anything.

Jack: Yeah, I think it was Intentional. I think there's volunteer work happening. I think that maybe the Mayans, again, they could have joined the Sea people. Maybe the Mayans are part of the Sea people now. Maybe the Egyptians are part of the Sea people now. Maybe the Sea people are the new Persian Empire and they exist in some place where you can't conceive of, but it's around us somehow. Yeah, that could be the case. And the narratives that we see written left behind through hieroglyphs and piecing together public records that cross reference these things in the right way to build a story, all of that is an incomplete image of what's really going on.

Cristina: Because we don't know any. We don't know what's going on.

Jack: We don't know.

Cristina: And they cut off the story wherever they wanted to.

Jack: Yeah, exactly. They. These true or not even true, these events that took place of them leaving. We could just misinterpret what they have. It's. We're working with what we have. And there's no way that story could be perfect.

Cristina: No.

Jack: We can tighten it and get it more accurate and use the evidence to build a more perfect image. But again, there's still holes and questions we do not have. It still seems like there's something they were hiding from.

Cristina: Yeah, but was there? I don't know.

Jack: But was there?

Jack: There be nothing they would need to hide from because they're super overpowered. It could have just been a privacy thing. We're tired. But like you changed 100%. You were sharing and then you were like, nah. And there's no way we're catching up. You can keep us in check forever.

Cristina: Mm So incomplete. But.

Jack: And maybe there were other creatures of equal technology that were coming. And that's where we include the concept of the shadow realm. That maybe there was something coming through. But then that creates quite an issue because we will have some real narrative discrepancies if that were to happen. Because are the Catholic Churches the ones summoning the creatures using the shadow realms or are.

Cristina: Yeah, that does really complicate things if they're doing both.

Jack: Yeah, it wouldn't make sense because the Catholic Church was established in order to protect the narrative of Jesus and write it the correct way and in order to suppress the knowledge of the sea people. So with that in mind, that wouldn't make any sense for the original things we thought about the Catholic Church being there being some corrupt group of people doing this. But there are other groups of people. It's not just the Catholic Church that creates the Knights Templar. But there's also the people from the library. What are they called?

Cristina: The Masons people, The Freemasons.

Jack: That's a whole other group. An entire other group. A secret society with an entirely different basis. A player we don't normally talk about, but another group that has a lot of information.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And they've. They go back through time as well. Now it's weird that all these other things we're talking about cross each other. And one of the things that we know interacts with all these other things never comes up. Which is in the Freemasons, which is an interesting idea because that just means that they're the best at hiding.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because they don't seem to cross any of these paths.

Cristina: Mm. If they do, we wouldn't know. Okay.

Jack: Yeah, but we know they do, because that's the whole point. They're interacting with a lot of the same subject matter. But when we're looking at this information, we don't find that. You have to be looking specifically for the Freemasons to find anything about the Freemasons. They seem to keep them themselves well hidden. Yeah, that's something to look into. We can definitely look into that in the future. Now we're talking about the sea people and how. Okay, so these pyramid like structures, these mountain like things, all forms of transportation they got. Are they still in the Persian Gulf oasis too then? That's the problem. Right. There's a lot of issues because they did move the Garden of Eden. But that doesn't mean that the people entirely evacuated the Persian Gulf oasis. And their technology should be too advanced for anybody to get to them. What are they hiding from? It's hiding. Dude, I don't care what anybody tells me they're hiding.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: It doesn't make sense. You have nothing to fear. Unless something as big and bad as you, you have detected.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: And you're. Or bigger and better.

Cristina: What is bigger and better than them? Unless it is some relates to. What's it called? The other side?

Jack: The Shadow Realm.

Cristina: The Shadow Realm?

Jack: Yeah.

Cristina: That's too random.

Jack: Or is there something else in space?

Cristina: In space?

Jack: Yeah. Like a different civilization that's even more advanced.

Cristina: But I hide from one spot on Earth to another spot on Earth from something in space.

Jack: I don't know. Right. And why would you think you can hide if it's that much more advanced?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: There's some huge giant piece missing. Yes. What was the real point? What was the real point? Yes. Maybe these people aren't hiding. The Egyptians did go out and the Mayans did create a storage bank. And then the sea people only hid the technology and they're protecting it and they're amongst us. But then why does it still feel like you guys are hiding? Why does it feel like you guys are hiding? Why is the hiding? It feels like hiding. I don't care. It feels like hiding.

Cristina: It feels like hiding. I don't know there.

Jack: It doesn't feel like, oh yeah, we're all. No, you went from trying to help everybody all the time. Do not at all to no, f*** this. We're gonna go to the deepest, darkest place we could find. Tell everybody to get rid of anything about us. Create an entire group dedicated to erasing our existence. Like, that doesn't sound like not hiding. But what could be the big boogeyman. It doesn't make sense that they would hide. But we're looking at it from our perspective of like, wow, they're so advanced. What could mess with them? But like, whatever. They're scared of Jesus.

Cristina: Obviously they're afraid of Jesus.

Jack: Why are they afraid of Jesus?

Cristina: I don't know. They all started. They hide. They wanted to hide their location.

Jack: We know that Jesus had one problem that is just a big issue.

Cristina: That he can share that location that they're in.

Jack: Because shared the location. He doesn't know the location. So that nobody. He never had a vision about it.

Cristina: Yes, and that's why it's perfect to hide from him.

Jack: Yes, but what are they hiding from?

Cristina: What if they're hiding from him?

Jack: Why are they hiding from him? Oh, because they've always successful. No, but who would even find them if they can successfully? Nobody's ever seen the place. What would him having visions about it though?

Cristina: What if he's after the place?

Jack: For what?

Cristina: I don't know. What if the Catholic Church is this. What if our first idea was right too? What if they are monster hunters in that they need the blood of these things and all that stuff. All that is right. And they're working for Jesus. And Jesus knows about their spots and that's why he has them on the mountains, just in case they ever pop up. He wants to, you know, get there, but he can't get there because he has all these churches there just waiting for them.

Jack: Interesting, interesting, interesting. Interesting point you've got here. Interesting point you've got here. Allow me to paint you a picture based on the picture you've painted me. The child is born. The child who's been having visions. Who's been sending visions through time and through space. They've been telling people about where he is and where he's gonna be. These people know eventually this child's gonna be born. Somehow, through their awesome tech, they find out. And they're like you, who is suddenly pregnant. You're definitely that lady. So you. Who fits the profile of the visions, you gotta go. But you also know this. So you're not. We're not exiling you the way that the things say. That was misinterpretation. You have chosen to protect us too. You're one of us.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: We're gonna send you out. We're gonna send you out with some people called the Maji. You're not gonna know exactly who's who, but we assure you, you're good. Anyways, he's your escort, Joseph. Toodles. Now the Magi are watching. Interesting point to make here. There's the Orthodox Church and there is the Catholic Church. Both of those churches function in almost identical. Identical manner, with the exception. With the one main exception, that the Orthodox Church aims towards the original passages of the Old Testament, but believes in the New Testament, while the Catholic Church believes exclusively in the New Testament. This is the possibility that the Orthodox Church was taken over by Jesus Christ in order to continue pushing his narrative in his way. Or. No, it wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense because there's only one new movement, and that's the Catholic Church. Or I guess. No, it's Christianity. And. No, but they're both. Even the Orthodox Church is Christian.

Cristina: Exactly. All of them happened because of him.

Jack: Yeah, but if he dies at 33.

Cristina: Right, but not really.

Jack: But not really. But as far as the story matters, he dies at 33.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And we have Church, Catholic Church, and we have regular Christian. Other. Other branches of Christianity. The Catholic Church came a hundred years later. Okay, so then the Catholic Church. Well, the Christian Church was established, and then the Pope was created. Was it Catholic? Yeah, I think it was a Christian Church.

Cristina: I don't know.

Jack: Yeah, so Christian Church was established and Pope was decided on. And which was Paul. And so these people are gonna fix the narrative. That's Christianity. Yes, that's Christianity. Catholicism. The Knights Templar is also Christianity. Jesus isn't tampering with any of that.

Cristina: How do you know he's not leading the way?

Jack: Because it doesn't seem that they're the ones trying to. So there must be two versions of this that's happening. There must be a version of the Catholic Church that's trying to get to. Or not the Catholic Church, but some variant of Christianity is trying to get to. To the location of the sea people. And there must be a version of the Christian church that's trying to protect the location of the sea people. And the people who are protecting the sea people are also trying to correct the narrative of Jesus so that he is just a man. So he's a son of God or whatever. While the one who is trying to reach the sea people must be fully aware of technology. We're so we're looking at it differently. It must be some mega billionaire trying to get to some location that he shouldn't be trying to reach. It has to be like Elon Musk or something. That would more likely be Jesus because he's fully aware that it's tech.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: It wouldn't look like a religion. It would look like. Nah, screw that. I'm getting to no matter what. Why would he care if the goal is getting there? He knows his technology. You guys are creating religion.

Cristina: But he's not gonna tell people why.

Jack: He needs them to fight. Well, no, he would lean on technology.

Cristina: He's using his own tech. That looks like magic. Why would he tell them that? Oh, this is.

Jack: Yeah, because right now it would still. I'm thinking he would look like some of our people, but that doesn't make sense. He's too advanced. So we're not even seeing this happen. This couldn't be something we could conceive of. They're too advanced for us. Yeah, except they were trading with people.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: There's something we're not getting here.

Cristina: Well, when they were trading with people. Yeah. I don't know. No, I don't know.

Jack: There's something we don't understand about the sea people. I do feel there's something they're hiding from. The information almost tries to tell us secretly what it is. No. That they're trying to hide. The way it's all worded and expressed.

Cristina: It's like, what? Who? Why?

Jack: Yeah, like what is it you're running from? No, it isn't expressed because nobody's saying you're running. They're like, you know, they, they. They went to hiding.

Cristina: They didn't say they went to hiding. I thought.

Jack: Well, not literally.

Cristina: No. They just said they move.

Jack: Yeah, it was a mass migration. Yeah, a mass. The mass migration took place. But why? And then to where you went? What? Dude, this was. No, there's no way this was easier. Yes. You got the tech to do it. There's no way it was easier than just doing it in some other dirt pile. Do it in the jungle. Still easier than under the ocean.

Cristina: They were already under the ocean to go somewhere else under the ocean. That makes sense.

Jack: No, not unless you're teleporting your city as a whole.

Cristina: I guess that makes sense.

Jack: You know, unless that's literally what happened. It was definitely easier to just go.

Cristina: Make another mountain and maybe they teleported the whole city. They're a thousand years advanced or whatever.

Jack: They could have moved the whole city.

Cristina: So many years advanced, but in that.

Jack: Case, it would be impossible to find. And what we're talking about when we're talking about the Bermuda Triangle, we're really talking about some super mega awesome teleportation device. As opposed to them being directly down there. That's just one of the places they could be. And this place allows them to move underneath the ocean. Teleporting from ocean to ocean to ocean anywhere they want. Oh, maybe so uncatchable. Unfindable.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that people disappear around the Bermuda Triangle because you're getting sucked into this problem and popping up different places underwater. A plane that's flying and it's just.

Cristina: Maybe I didn't know that that thing would happen when they did that. Such a giant.

Jack: Fair enough.

Cristina: Teleport.

Jack: Yeah. I think it wasn't intentional.

Cristina: Yeah, like it just. Oops. It just caused this weird glitch.

Jack: Yeah, just send this plane that was, you know, flying over some island, sent it straight into the bottom of the ocean.

Cristina: Like they didn't know that triangle was going to form above them. It just happened. This accidental. The math.

Jack: Oh, you mean the Bermuda Triangle just happened by chance? Yeah, No, I didn't.

Cristina: Not by chance. Like. Yeah, because the technology was. Even though as they're advanced, the math might have not shown that, like, oh, if something goes wrong, this is gonna. Ha. This is the.

Jack: No, no, I think because the triangle fits the triangular shape we see with pyramids, it definitely fits whatever tech that we're already using. So I'm thinking definitely, definitely that the shape we see of the triangle that we map out is intentional. I think the shape is intentional because it's part of whatever design allows them to teleport. And that's why it's such a large area. Everything else is a pyramid. It's roughly the size of a couple of blocks. This is the size of small countries.

Cristina: Yeah. That means we're not dealing with just a city.

Jack: No, we're talking. I mean, the city is just at the center point, presumably, but it could be the entire bottom of that. And think about the size of that colossal freaking civilization.

Cristina: Yeah. Maybe.

Jack: Maybe there's more than just the little group of people. We thought maybe there's an entire country down there.

Cristina: Yeah. And that's what's happening when it was in the Gulf. But once they moved, it became a country.

Jack: Atlantis. The country, not the city. It's not the city of Atlantis. It's the country of Atlantis.

Cristina: That makes more sense. Why would it be so advanced and just have a city? I don't know.

Jack: And that explains why it's such a large portion of the area underwater and why so far out to the edge is where you start seeing these structures.

Cristina: Yes. Okay.

Jack: That makes a lot of sense. Interesting. Anyways, we're way out of time. Look, I think we. I'm gonna look into this religion and how they found about. Out about the mountain.

Cristina: The Persian.

Jack: Yeah, Persian religious priests from Zora, Zorro, astrianism, Zoroastrianism. Yeah. And how he found out about the people.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Also, were the people of the Persian Gulf always in the Persian Gulf? As far as our records go?

Cristina: Oh, they migrated.

Jack: Or if they migrated there from somewhere else.

Cristina: Oh, my gosh, we're gonna find out. They came, I don't know, Russia somewhere else.

Jack: That's an interesting thing. I was just thinking about. These are things we got to find out. I'm also going to try to see how this mountain Olympus relates to Mount Athos. If there's any connection at all other than the obvious ones we've established. Because this narrative continues to thicken.

Cristina: Let's see if anything Norse has to do with anything.

Jack: Yes, Norse to see. Oh, interesting. Because that would tell us about the. Definitely looking through Pegasus. That seems to be really important. The gods on Pegasus going to mountains with that later gonna. And whether those mountains later have a Catholic church on them. Things that we need to know.

Cristina: Yes.

Jack: Also, the way that this priest described it. I wish I had his name. I'll bring his name next time. The way that the priest described it is he said that there's a realm at the summit to access. There's a way to the realm that accesses the gods. The gods?

Cristina: How dare you not say that before?

Jack: Well, not the gods. The sea people.

Cristina: The sea people. I don't understand. But he didn't think it was the gods. But he thought it was a gods.

Jack: He knew that there was a way. Yeah, I guess so. He knew there was a way through to them through there. But he did use the word realm specifically.

Cristina: That makes it feel like they're somehow related to the other side. But they can't be.

Jack: No, they can't. Be. I don't. You gotta understand that that's just one of the realms. The shadow Realm is one of the realms. There are many realms. It's like dimensions. There are many different dimensions.

Cristina: So one realm might be of the sea people.

Jack: Well, I think he might have been using this word incorrectly.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: Because they had no conceptualization. I think there's a pocket dimension. I think it's a space bubble that they're going in through and that maybe it's. Can you imagine? They make a hall, a room filled with doors. And one door goes to Mount Olympus. And then you go in through the door on Mount Olympus side and takes you to a room with doors. And then there's one that just says Atlantis and you just go through the door. I think that's the idea. There's a pocket dimension that they go through that shortens the distance between everywhere.

Cristina: Is that how it works though, with the other. The other world or whatever?

Jack: With the Shadow Realm?

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: The Shadow Realm is a weird amalgamation. Yeah.

Cristina: So it depends on pockets.

Jack: No. Did they. It's weird because we're all. We're more connected to that on a frequency type of thing because they use something from our side in order to phase into our existence as opposed to cross some threshold.

Cristina: Oh, okay.

Jack: So they're present. We're all present on both sides. But we're predominantly over here and they're predominantly over there. But that doesn't mean they're not over here. We're not over there. They can see versions of us walking over there. We can see versions of them walking over here, which is. They reinforce to come over here.

Cristina: Okay.

Jack: And then adrenochrome more solidifies us over there. And then when we cross, we can come back.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: Weird things. Anyways, we're totally out of time. We have things to look into. Very important things. And this narrative does successfully keep moving forward. I wonder how exactly this is gonna play out, because I know that. I think we're closer to a country and that. That makes sense.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: And that there's probably. If there is a case, that there's probably evidence. That's my guess.

Cristina: Me too. Yeah. I think Jesus is the enemy. I don't know. I don't know.

Jack: All this possible. As a closing statement, I believe that. That based on what you said, his exile then gives him the swamp for revenge. And he's fully aware and capable of accessing the technologies. Or maybe he's. Why would he. Right. You'd need to also inhibit his ability to get to you. Because if you could if you just gave him all the tools to get to you. That doesn't make sense.

Cristina: They didn't give him the tools.

Jack: No, exactly. So he doesn't have the tech.

Cristina: No, he doesn't have. But he does have tech. He doesn't have their tech.

Jack: He doesn't have necessarily any tech. He has human tech, but Adrenochrome. Well, exactly. That would be how this plays out. Adrenochrome becomes his way to figure this out. He starts messing with his own. Because, again, it's not about technology.

Cristina: That they can see into this world, though.

Jack: Who.

Cristina: If Jesus can go into the Shadow Realm. The Shadow Realm.

Jack: Yes, exactly. Because he could. He was basically trying to figure out how his people have this teleportation technology. And what he stumbles upon is nothing like what they figured out. Because to him, it looks like magic because he's never seen the technology. So he thought powers and he has this crazy level of intellect. And this is how he becomes the first vampire. He looks through time, through history, sees a pattern with blood that maybe everybody else didn't piece together. Uses brains. Pieces together. Take the thing. Adrenochrome happens, but it's just his quest. Trying to get and figure it out. It's a game of the movie Prestiged.

Cristina: The Prestige.

Jack: Where he doesn't get the trick.

Cristina: No.

Jack: And he came up with.

Cristina: He gets so obsessed with it. Yes. That he.

Jack: He figured it out. It wasn't the same solution. No, but he did the same trick and better.

Cristina: Better? Like, question about better. I don't know. But yes, it's the same thing. He's the same character. He is that guy with.

Jack: Yeah. He's trying to figure it out and stumbles upon some whole other thing. His obsession takes him somewhere else entirely.

Cristina: Somewhere darker. So much darker. Okay.

Jack: Obsession drives him. He knows he comes from somewhere unique. He swears it.

Cristina: Yep. Well, he knows it. He knows he is unique.

Jack: And people told him directly. The Manji approached him.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: They told him they couldn't show him. We cannot. This is why we cannot.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: But then he has answers he's always thought of.

Cristina: Mm.

Jack: And he's like, why am I special? And they finally tell him, and then they tell him that because of this, we cast you just. You. You're not allowed. Sorry, bro. Sorry. And then he's like, nah, f*** that.

Cristina: Yeah, they probably weren't.

Jack: They weren't rude about it, but it was like.

Cristina: I mean, like, they probably couldn't see that he would find a way. Like, they probably didn't think he'd become a vampire and live forever and try to hunt them down. Yeah, like, that's kind of crazy. No one expects that.

Jack: Yeah, nobody expects that.

Cristina: That's totally not matter how advanced you are. That's kind of crazy.

Jack: And that's why his way of transforming with adrenochrome is so much more overpowered than the rest of us. We take adrenochrome, we're just a vampire. No, he's a super mega duper vampire. He's some other thing.

Cristina: Exactly.

Jack: Is because he's also like, really? His race is some other thing.

Cristina: Yeah.

Jack: Anyways, Topics for the future.

Cristina: Yes. Yes.

Jack: Anyway, if you guys want to contact us, if you guys want to talk to us, reach out to us on all the social platforms, you can find us at just convopod on Tick Tock, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, wherever.

Cristina: Remember to subscribe. Right. And review the show.

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Cristina: And if you didn't know, this has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.

Jack: Bye. It's not a thing that couldn't happen. We're opinionated preachers, so you shouldn't be surprised when the Jewish father's like, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not contributing to this. I have worked for what I earn and you're not having it. I don't care that you want a communistic thing where nobody earns and we're all equal. Suck it. No.

Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.