Rambling 273: Looking for Questions
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With so many doors left to open, what is left to discover? The duo continue their unhinged speculation on the existing information with hopes of opening even more doors to continue investigation through. And like last time, the doors want to be opened!!
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Topics Discussed:
- Elysians
- Jesus Christ
- Yaldabaoth
- Necromancers
- Elves
- Hermes
- Merlin
- Queen Mab
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And you and I, for the last however many episodes, I've been going down an infinite rabbit hole that doesn't seem to have an ending. And last week, you and I decided to look at it differently. And instead of looking for new information, we would just, without even looking at the notes, talk about what we know and extrapolate new angles to approach. Great idea.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It led to a lot of places. In fact, I found a couple of interesting things that are great, but I would like to, instead of going over that stuff, do this process again and continue to pick at whatever we haven't addressed so that there's more direction to go. And if we hit a wall, I have in front of me the beginning of what we've already found.
Cristina: Really?
Jack: Yeah. It's a specific story which will spiral into infinity, into. We have no more time. So that's perfectly fine. So I would like to just dive into what we do know, what we didn't talk about, whatever we didn't address last time.
Cristina: Where did we stop?
Jack: Well, we talked a little bit of everything. I remember we addressed Hermes. We talked about the Elysians. We were trying to figure out, like, what's the ultimate goal. They're trying to go down, not up, possibly. That seemed to be kind of like the culmination of everything was kind of focusing on that idea. Yeah, but there's a lot of parts here that we don't understand who they are or what their purpose is within the bigger scheme of things.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We think of, like, MAB programmer, but purely programmer. Why do we know about you at all? Why do we, you know, the interaction relative to mabs somehow. Why, you know, that's a good question. I don't know things like that. There's this curious kind of, like, easy to miss because it's something they wouldn't even have thought about bringing up. That is filler information for them because they contextually know it. But we don't have context. We only have the writing that. That is our 100% context. So what? The context that existed for them that they thought was irrelevant because it was just casual knowledge to us, needs to be written, and they didn't. So we have to extrapolate it. Right. And then that would guide us to the sentences that kind of indirectly together. Tell us the narrative on map or anything. On anything.
Cristina: Because I know. What do we know about map? I don't know.
Jack: We don't know crap about map. But the problem is we also don't have angles to go find things on mab. Yeah, if we had angles, which presumably is what we would be achieving here. If we had angles, if we found some thought we could follow, then that would take us there.
Cristina: I have no idea how to think of something that connects to her besides like she made everything. That's all we know. Yeah, there's no characters or anything. Not characters, but like people related to her that exists here.
Jack: The characters that exist here that she. Elves that gets sent to. But I don't even know how that works.
Cristina: No.
Jack: You know, I have no idea how elves fit into the bigger scheme of things other than they stop civilizations from getting too powerful.
Cristina: Is that even true? Is that even true? Like who have they tried that with?
Jack: We would need examples. Right, because that's what they say. But then what is the example?
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: So you can't just tell us this is their purpose and then not have a single example.
Cristina: So unless they're the reasons why. When. What was it Lucifer was trying to give other countries?
Jack: Oh, you see, this is what we need to speculate on. So your theory would be that if somehow we could find an event that fit their work, perhaps these other civilized. But no, they would be whack or lower grade civilizations.
Cristina: The ones that fail that we know that they are.
Jack: That's what I mean. They would be keeping in check the ones who aren't failing.
Cristina: But I don't know if they're keeping track of anything. As far as I can tell, they're not doing anything.
Jack: Unless. Unless you're thinking of this the wrong way. All of the structures along the Weird fact. Weird fact. I don't know how the h*** we didn't come across this before I read this. I remember reading this. This was in the notes and we briefly actually talked about this, but we didn't think about it. I guess all of the structures on the old equator although built at random different times. None of the civilizations that built them were around the old equator. They traveled to build the thing.
Cristina: I don't understand what.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of the old. The objects on the old equator aren't from like the people who made it, brought the things there from wherever. Each group of people, every instance, almost every instance, in a few rare instances, they actually already lived within the proximity and then they just built it within them. But the Others migrated the things and built the thing, meaning the thing we find. Their structure we find on the old equator is way newer than their civilization as a whole. So we see this building that looks like. Well, can't, because this was just kind of recently made as opposed to, like, these civilizations. It doesn't look advanced. That's an ancient crappy building. It doesn't have the sophistication of the ones we know went further. Maybe they have always been being kept in check. And when we hear about 300 years ago from Beast. From the time of Jesus, 300 years back, weirdly enough, they kind of show up around the time of Alexander the Great and the. Oh, my God.
Cristina: I don't see anything.
Jack: No, look, okay. Dates matter here.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Weird things that have just happened in my mind. We know that the elves show up around 300 BC. That's preemptively right before Jesus. Right. They knew something was kind of up.
Cristina: Okay, but we were.
Jack: When we shared that information, we were too focused on Jesus and we lacked a lot of information because of the next sentence. 300 years ago was Alexander the Great time. 300 years ago from the time of Jesus. Specifically, we're always looking back. I'm saying 300 years back from Jesus. 300 years BC if I'm Jesus. Okay, so 300 years back from me, Jesus, Hermes was walking around the school where Aristotle. Okay, that literally coincides with. With the mention we're aware of of the elves.
Cristina: How does that relate?
Jack: Because Hermes, the op necromancer, who can do a bunch of crap, presumably is now at this time teaching Alexander, even if he's a flunky. And then we get elves. Elves were there because Hermes was teaching somebody who potentially could have.
Cristina: Elves popped up because of Hermes.
Jack: Well, they show up at the same time. We're theorizing. I don't know. This is all speculation, but, like, because.
Cristina: They sort of knew someone.
Jack: Yeah. Something was about to happen. They saw something because Hermes. The mention of Hermes we get is 300 years bc and then the mention of elves we get is 300 years bc coincidence. Could totally be. Again, we're just throwing information in random directions now. We all.
Cristina: We already know when exactly they got here and what exactly they're looking at.
Jack: Yeah, we don't know exactly. Exactly. I think it's possible that it doesn't make sense that she would just create this troop suddenly.
Cristina: Mm. There had to be a reason for it.
Jack: Yeah. Unless they've always existed. And this is just the first mention we have proof of. Do you get my Point like maybe there's further back mentions of fairies being deployed. The problem is getting anything from Elfame is hard. We usually it's written by somebody from the shadow realm who is in earthrealm. The odds of it.
Cristina: That's tricky. Mm.
Jack: Mm. How many Hermes do we have? One problem. There's few people who have the no to tell me something from the other side.
Cristina: So you think she was interested in Hermes or people like Hermes?
Jack: I don't think she was interested. I think that's the fear.
Cristina: That's the fear of the fairies.
Jack: Especially if that is in fact just another layer. If Mab, as the quote, programmer, unquote, is herself within another layer of the quote, program, unquote, then her biggest issue would be any of us who could figure that s*** out.
Cristina: It's the AI becoming sentient, taking over 100%.
Jack: And in the case that she is also a layer instead of base reality, us getting out is horrifying because that just means we're really just there.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We don't. I don't need to enter physical space. You're just another part of the program. I could get to you physically. And if I know that, and I know how to migrate from my side to yours potentially, I know how to control the physical structure of your side because I had to to get there. Oh, that's a problem. That's literally what a necromancer does.
Cristina: Yes, that's exactly.
Jack: Oh, s***.
Cristina: I can see them being a problem.
Jack: Yeah, I can see that being a true issue. Yes. Yep. So that's definitely a thing. It looks like a necromancer could definitely be an issue. Specially special. Especially. Especially. Especially in the case of Map just being another layer. Yes, because then you'd be f*****.
Cristina: I don't know. I mean, I guess it makes sense because we were worried about the same thing.
Jack: The argument would be that even if she's within a layer, everything within her layer was made of the technology she uses. And if the technology she uses learns how to manip. How to escape, then it can control all the other technologies because presumably they're used within the same sophistication.
Cristina: But.
Jack: Or like, you know, so it could just. It would be. It would be apocalyptic, realistically speaking. So while we were thinking G. I mean, Jesus himself could be that too.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because of the human factor that seems necessary to accomplish necromance.
Cristina: I still don't understand why the. Because shadow people cannot do that. But they are closer or they're not. There's.
Jack: I don't understand. I don't. I Don't get it either. There's something weird there, something interesting about Elfame that is different. And I would. And I've tried different, like, analogies in my head. If you think of, like, how difficult it would be to try to send your friend a message from, like, WhatsApp to Facebook, even if they're literally within the same ecosystem, minus the fact that they added that feature recently.
Cristina: How do you do that?
Jack: Yeah, how do you. It's the same thing.
Cristina: How about Facebook and Twitter?
Jack: Facebook and Twitter, a better example. Yeah, same idea. They're both on the Internet.
Cristina: But how do you get a message?
Jack: How do you get a message across from one side to another? It's probably a realistic way to do it, but it's probably really tricky and has a ridiculous number of steps you got to do. But if you did it enough, you would eventually learn shortcuts from what is already there and understand why this works with that and be able to, oh, middleman that s*** out of the way.
Cristina: Just get from any website, from a.
Jack: Website to send a message to any website from any other website. Weird, right? Seems wrong, but it should be possible. You should be able to send an inbox from Facebook to Twitter. And I bet somebody can. I bet somebody out of boredom figured out the nuance of getting a Facebook message on Facebook to register on Twitter just for s**** and giggles and to see if they can, because it's probably not that hard.
Cristina: It sounds really complicated.
Jack: Well, it could be really annoying. It could be like you have to install something on or not even install something. So you send a message with something encrypted in the message that's being read off of the computer or something, and then you have the receiving encryption or. I don't even know, because what, you'd send the message through Facebook. The message would be registered through the Facebook algorithm. Then you'd have to hack the idea. Have to hack Facebook in order to then get the message. You'd have to hack both and just create a link, essentially. Man, I wonder if somebody could figure this out. Is there any listener we have that can figure out how to legitimately send a inbox from Facebook and make it land on Twitter and it be a logical set of steps. That would be amazing. I'm sure it's possible, although incredibly complicated, because ultimately what a website is, is a bunch of walls around the Internet.
Cristina: Yes. You think that's how this is though, too?
Jack: I think that's exactly how this is. I think it's just a bunch of walls around the Internet now there's more Internet outside of the walls, but this is just a bunch of walls and there are many series of walls. It's flat earth. There's the idea of flat earth. Oh, we're in. Encapsulated in this ice wall. But there's more Earth outside the ice wall.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That's the ultimate reality. Or it seems to be.
Cristina: It seems to be.
Jack: Seems to be the case. Which weirdly enough, I guess that kind of fits with what Flat Earth is saying. But weirdly enough, that kind of fits with what science says. When you consider the fact that we're like our observable universe. Well, there might be more outside of that. That's just the barrier that we have. And it's not like a real barrier that we can't cross, but as opposed to the walls around us at the moment, based on the rules that make what we're at.
Cristina: I don't know. Like she. But are they trying to do that where they're at? I guess as fairy people. Can they go up to whatever the reality is?
Jack: I mean, the argument would be that as above, so below is accurate as f***. Everybody's trying the same s***. Maybe.
Cristina: But why is it so complicated for the shadow people to do it but not for a human to do it?
Jack: I don't know that part. I have no idea. That's weird, right? Unless there's something specific about the shadow realm. Maybe that is itself an old program, as opposed to earthrealm, which is just a newer, more sophisticated program, so it's easier. And then the case of Yaldabaoth is he's trying to kind of figure out how to do it. The sophisticated program is doing. So it's a case of this dark ancient thing that wants to escape into the new world.
Cristina: Probably has escaped and I don't know. I wish we knew something. But is he still there? I don't think so.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: Unless that's not the goal. That's. The goal isn't to go out.
Jack: Unless the goal isn't to go out. I don't know.
Cristina: I don't know. Because with. When it comes to Hermes, it doesn't seem like that's the only goal. That may be a goal. It's not the goal.
Jack: What would you say are. What would you say seems like another.
Cristina: Goal besides making your own place?
Jack: Yeah. Do you think his. Yeah, I guess it does kind of make sense. The goal would be to like.
Cristina: I think it would be everything.
Jack: But no. Yeah, it's because I think you're right. It's like sure, go up. Whatever dude. But like maybe it is harder to go down. Look at it like this. As far as space is, it's even easier to look in that direction than it is to look down. Yes, you see the problem? It immediately becomes so complicated when we get small. Far, fine. Big fine, it has a cutoff point. But fine, it's just reaching it. Distance is the issue. But far. And big, not a problem. But small, regardless of how close you can get, so small you make it impossible to understand. And in order to build a universe, it's not about going out into an existing s***** thing. It's about understanding how the f*** small works. Which weirdly enough, I would argue we see an expert at it. Even if he's not a boss at a bunch of other s***. He is. He has a clever plan in motion and he seems to understand particle science really hard. Who are you talking about, Nicholas?
Cristina: Because he can, Santa.
Jack: He can turn himself into some sort of non physical form form actively in physical space. That is understanding and actively violating what we consider to be the rules. But according to the Hermetica and the seven hermetic principles is absolutely fair within it. And weirdly enough, the quantum theory suggests that that kind of works too. We should be able to build technology that allows us to become or to teleport. That is not wrong. It's not against science. It does fit within.
Cristina: We can do it.
Jack: Yeah. Science says that functions and that that works.
Cristina: Do you think he can do it?
Jack: I think he gets it really well. I think he understands it really well.
Cristina: Mm
Jack: He could turn into a cloud.
Cristina: He could turn into a cloud. I don't remember.
Jack: But he could like go down the chimney. Which presumably means he's not really going down the chimney.
Cristina: But we have no hint to what his actual goals are.
Jack: He doesn't seem like he has a goal. It looks like that guy's just like living the life chillin.
Cristina: But is there something else again?
Jack: Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: Like there has to be. Like there has to be. Who just that's filling fulfilling for them for the whole. Their whole life is just giving children presents.
Jack: That Naga that went and settled in Australia just for s**** and giggles and to call itself a God.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like it happens once in a while.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They just go and do nothing. Like he wins. Everybody knows who the f*** he is, I guess.
Cristina: But why isn't he like the others that are all so science y?
Jack: Because there has to be a little of everything and we're just focusing on those.
Jack: There's probably a Crap ton of stories unrelated to. Actually, interesting enough, there's probably a crap ton of stories unrelated to any of this. Now that we have the eyes to go find just weird side narratives that don't matter within the actual realm of what we're talking about.
Cristina: Look for what type of side stories?
Jack: Just random unrelated characters that have no consequence in the bigger overall picture. That still there's things about that now we know how to. Now we know how to undo translation errors. We know how to look backwards in time and find original text and then make them the original intended. Not just word, but the meaning behind the word based on what the person who wrote its original language is. Think about that. If your native language is Greek, then regardless of what language you wrote it in, imma find out what you think that word means in Greek, and then that informs me on what you are most likely to think you mean when you turn it into Latin. Even if you turn it into Latin and it was the first time you wrote it in Latin, knowing what language you spoke first tells me a lot about how you'd think of the word you're putting there for the context.
Cristina: Complicated.
Jack: Exactly. But now we have all these tools and we can do that. And because of that, I can find random s*** that doesn't have any consequence. But now we can enter the. You know, the filler episodes of Supernatural that sometimes turn out to be the best ones when it's like, oh, man, they're just hunting vampires today. And that's cool. And it's like, I missed these. It was like, all apocalyptic for, like, three seasons straight. And now we're just chasing a werewolf or a ghost. Cool, man. Like the good old days.
Cristina: Some side character does the actual important thing of the. Yeah, my story's still happening. It's just. They're not involved in it.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, Bobby calls him up and is. I got the lead.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: At the end of the episode. Or it was Bobby. Or Castiel shows up and like, yo, I got the information.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: You guys. You guys did the thing you were doing. Cool. Okay. This is the next step. And it's like, yeah, okay. We could jump into that part of our lives now where we, like, go hunt these side stories of dumb s***.
Cristina: Okay. Until someone comes with the envelope that's like, here's the important lead.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Because think about it. We already have enough tools to really. We can even revisit some things with really informed eyes and look at something like werewolves. We could actually find the mentions of actual werewolves. Wet chudges and Wendigo's across the board that exists. And what's the other one? Lycan, that all exist and aren't even under any of those names. Because we would know exactly what their behavior would be like, what the conditions for them to be around would be. We could track anything down at this point. We're experts in this weird esoteric.
Cristina: Okay, but what would be revisiting? We'd be revisiting these things to learn more information.
Jack: We can. It could definitely inform us in a lot. Especially considering the path of a lot of these stories that we originally went on, these ventures with came from, like, everyday narratives and news articles that were reporting on these events and the characteristics of them. Think of the Countess that literally was just. She was literally just getting adrenochrome, just milking adrenochrome from a bunch of young girls. She would hire 15 year olds to be her maids and then kill them and bathe in her blood and drink it and cover herself in it. And just like, she f****** knew. But now we gotta ask, where'd the Countess get her information? Is it like, we know elites, but why do elites come across it? What information source are they connected to?
Cristina: How could we find that, though?
Jack: How could we find that? You know, those are the paths we should be finding.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There are roads for days. We are armed like no one.
Cristina: Mm. I think we could do that.
Jack: Mm. For days. For days. There's anywhere we could go? We can make this current as f***. We have too many tools. We can't be tricked anymore.
Cristina: I would love to do vampires, though.
Jack: Be interesting to find some vampires.
Cristina: Yes. Yes. No, werewolves are actually better. Never mind. Their stories are so wild. Like, we have to make them make sense. It's just too wild.
Jack: Yeah. And here's really weird fact, right? Because the origination of a man becoming a werewolf, like, a werewolf is not a werewolf, man. Not the way that we put it in movies and s***.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Like, it's not a dude. A dude doesn't become a wolf. That's not how it works.
Cristina: Well, sometimes with wolf clothing.
Jack: Yes. But that's exactly my point, because that leads into. We had a whole episode about this where we were talking about the mythology of werewolves and the fact that it originally was just people, ignorant people watching tribal behavior and not understanding what was happening. And it's like they're covered in the fur because it gets f****** cold, bro. And, like, they probably killed the wolf to stay alive. And, like, they're not gonna waste it.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So they have that and Then you attack one of theirs. And then one of these guys comes and attacks you. Chases you through the woods. He's making crazy noises behind you. Because they're used to making crazy noises to scare people these times. You make it through the woods, you swear to God you were being chased by a half man, half wolf. But he was just wearing a wolf. And that's not normal to you.
Cristina: You should do that.
Jack: We can revisit so many things and with all hopes I can inform more. Just continue to deep dive into this weird world. I love those episodes. Really pack unpacking things. But I'm sure there's way more things too. I'm curious to see what creatures we can find that are connected to mentions of Elfame.
Cristina: That would be interesting.
Jack: Yeah. They aren't normally along the lines of traditional fairies, but still within the definitions we found and the other ways we found that people refer to Alfame because.
Cristina: We'Ve done some research on fairies and types of fairies.
Jack: But it's also like the common seemed.
Cristina: Related, but maybe they are related. I just don't know.
Jack: Yeah, they seem like random one off things, right?
Cristina: Yeah. And zombies.
Jack: Zombies.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Yeah. But those are states of humans. Because a zombie is just a human who stopped taking adrenochrome.
Cristina: I guess there's nothing really there.
Jack: Yeah. And then we used to think people would become jinn on the other side. But then we found out jinn are just jinn on the other side. Jinnah's have always. They're just people.
Cristina: They're those people.
Jack: Yes. What the f***? I actually don't know what the h*** happened to a human on the other side. I guess that's a ghost actually.
Cristina: Ghost? I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, that's actually the ghost, right. A spirit. As far as we know. It's like this person that goes to the other side and is a twisted. Well there's two versions of it. I guess what we call a demon.
Cristina: But with necromancers they can time travel.
Jack: That's weird, right? Because it doesn't seem to. I don't see a specific mention of time travel. As opposed to the ability to completely halt or slow down time until it seems like a halt.
Cristina: Well like what example would that like I need an example of that. That doesn't sound like anything.
Jack: St. Nicholas and his way of moving through physically the entire planet is described as an activity that he is actively moving from place to place. But successfully accomplishing it and visiting millions of houses.
Cristina: That's not travel. Time traveling though I would I mean.
Jack: We'Re always time traveling.
Cristina: He's.
Jack: The argument here is he's slowing time down or moving way quicker.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So, like, he's not leaping forward in time at his speed. He's still experiencing every moment in time. Still. He didn't exit experiencing time and re. Enter continuity somewhere else. Which would be time travel. In my eyes. My eyes is in time travel is. I stand here.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And I will change the continuity around me. I'm leaving physical space to move time and then reentering at a different point in time. Even if in the same point in space, a different point in time. I was not present while change occurred. While he is not doing that, he is present while change is occurring. He's just moving either so fast he's not perceiving change or time is paused so there's no change to perceive. But still he's within the space where he would perceive the time if time was moving forward as opposed to exiting. And then time moves and then you re. Enter. I don't think he time travels.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I think the closest thing to that is slowing down time. I guess so.
Cristina: Then none of them would have that power.
Jack: We don't. Okay. The Merlin gets mucky. I know that. Definitely not Patrick. Santa. We have that example. And for Merlin we have a weird one. Because it's unclear whether he has the ability to at least send messages back in time to alter this existing narrative for a guy who already exists. Or if through some means he's continuously altering Arthur's perception of reality. Which is possible considering his entire structure was to be manipulated because of what he is though. Exactly. So it's complicated to tell do that to us.
Cristina: Maybe.
Jack: Unless he was reaching back in time.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: If he's read that. That's the problem. Because Arthur was particularly designed to be manipulated. The stories Arthur told seeming continuous and coherent could just be brainwashing. And don't need to include him traveling back in time and altering it.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: For it to stay consistent. Because he just needs to convince Arthur and anybody who's receiving the story that's it. So it's kind of easy as long as that idiot. Just like. Because his whole point is he's dumb and he's gonna believe it. That's the whole point.
Cristina: Yeah. Man. I wish we had more fairy stories because that did end up relating to a fairy.
Jack: We found lady of the Lake.
Cristina: Yes. But there's gotta be more like her.
Jack: There's gotta be more like her. She's just chilling down here.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like, she easily dealt with the issue.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So that's interesting. There are instances of even necromancers getting handled. That's interesting. Wait a minute. We forget this, but he's not an op necromancer. I would say he's bottom tier. And that Hermes is the. He's the business, right?
Cristina: Hermes is the business.
Jack: He's. He's the top dog.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: I mean, Process is named after him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So he's the granddaddy. And like Merlin's just whack.
Cristina: Well, we don't know if he really died. Died in the story. He's dead.
Jack: Yes. But also, he could have just dipped. It could have just been like this. S***. I don't know.
Cristina: Yeah, I think so. But there's got to be more stories like that. Yeah. How we stumbled upon that. Oh, because of the weapon. I think it was mostly because it.
Jack: Was because of the weapon we landed at him. Because of the fragrant.
Cristina: Yes, but we gotta find more fairies like that.
Jack: And additionally, fairy weapons will always lead us to the fairy that made them. Bam.
Cristina: But you already looked at all the fairy weapons or you just looked at a few fairy weapons.
Jack: We looked at a few. Few fairy weapons. There's probably many, many insignia. I looked at fairy weapons that I could cross reference with the events that we needed. But there are many other fairy weapons that aren't related to anything which would still at least link us to a fairy. If you wanted fairy stories like this, perhaps you could find fairies, even if they're not related. Like the lady of the Lake and Merlin are a circumstance that's almost unrelated to anything else. Just a standing circumstance. Minus the fact that Merlin seems to fit the bill for necromancer.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And minus the fact that these individuals still had connections to Patrick and Mananan.
Cristina: That was weird. Like they can all end up like that. We have no idea until we actually look them up.
Jack: Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: It might be random. They might at first glance look random.
Jack: I mean, bro, it happened with the Mayans. We were just casually looking at the Mayans and found the Egyptian texts we were already looking for. I mean, we'd already found. We found the Egyptian text we'd already found in Maya. Like that's weird.
Cristina: About the sea people.
Jack: About the sea people. Which is a slur. The Elysians.
Cristina: Oh, yes, the Elysians. I don't know how to say their name. I don't know.
Jack: Or the Atlanteans.
Cristina: Okay, the Atlanteans. Yes.
Jack: Yeah, it works.
Cristina: Let's do that.
Jack: Because the sea people is the slur that the Greeks would call the Atlanteans stupid sea people. Fish, you dumb fish looking mother.
Cristina: I wish we could find those slurs. If there's like something like that out.
Jack: There, I bet there's more. If sea people exist and as a name, then for sure there was more. Yeah, it sounds so dumb to us sea people, but like, I bet it was like a crazy f*** you in that time, right?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Like this scummy piece of s***. You know, some s*** like that. Like some. Like calling somebody a c****, you know, it's probably something. It was offensive like that. And we're like, sea people. And they were like, oh, my God, Mom. I was walking to school today and they call me a C person.
Cristina: I wish you can actually know what their life was, what their normal life is like.
Jack: It's crazy. We got nothing from inside that s***. We had nothing from inside. I to this. I would argue that's actually way more secretive than Hermes. The inside of an Elysian stronghold.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: I got nothing. We've never, not once. Everything has been written by somebody from the outside.
Cristina: There's gotta be something. I don't know. That's something.
Jack: That's something to look at for sure.
Cristina: If possible. Maybe not their main location, but they have other locations. They have to, I think.
Jack: I mean, we did find one. They already proved the capacity to move, at least within the time span of a year. An entire civilization. So definitely they can build homes quickly. Unless that project was under construction for a long time and this was just time to execute it. That's interesting. That could have been being developed for God knows how long. And they were like, this is the time. Whether done or not, where.
Cristina: And how would they have known that? They're predicting him before.
Jack: No, maybe it was just being built. Maybe they were just building another place and they're like, f***, that was going to be for us to spread out. But like, f***, this place.
Cristina: Now we got to go.
Jack: Yeah, we'll be cramped over there. And maybe they just keep expanding from down there. The place allows them to expand way more than being underneath the Persian Gulf oasis.
Cristina: Yeah, but how hard is building under there?
Jack: Presumably with the level of their technology, incredibly easily, I guess. But that being said again, they do have at least where Mananan was settled and then the home they were building on the neighboring island while they stayed there. So that's two different locations that they were at least spread to. Even if they abandoned one and gave it back to the people they went to the other place. That's a second for a fact. Entire Establishment that they at least had. I don't know if they have especially because it can't be seen as a literal description of it. That they cloaked the out of it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which like this is million thing that they've proven to be able to cloak.
Cristina: They're cloaking.
Jack: Weird, right? Any mention of the Elysians by any group of people for long enough time leads us back to they cloaked something. And it doesn't matter. We found it through the Celtics, we found it through the Christian, we found it through the Greek. They all agree these people legitimately had stealth technology. They hit a mountain. The Indian said that.
Cristina: Can we learn how? What exactly is this cloaking and technology?
Jack: Interesting, right? Because it's definitely. Everybody's like, bro, they made the thing disappear. And it's like, okay, you guys said that but okay, we've heard this before but d***. You guys also said that and you guys didn't even know these over here. And you guys are on the other side of Earth. There's no way you guys knew anybody.
Cristina: No. And everyone says that.
Jack: Yeah. But all you guys are like, no, they may this they roll up and just make vanish. It's like, whoa, how. And I'm sure, I am sure that now thinking about it, there's a bunch of mentions of gods taking people to heaven or to h*** directly, even if they don't die. And there's mentions of abductions. Abductions which all fit the f****** s*** going in.
Cristina: Wait for that. I've been waiting. There has to be. I don't know how it relates. I don't know what they'd want with us. But they have to.
Jack: They have to. I mean, they've always been experimenting with us.
Cristina: Exactly. Yes.
Jack: Why would it change now?
Cristina: But what would. Like we don't have any idea of why or what they're doing. Like anything anyone said has been wrong because they don't understand what they're. They want.
Jack: I mean, yeah, nobody comes back with information relative to that. It's really weird.
Cristina: I don't think so. I don't think they have any idea. They just make things up because like what can you do?
Jack: Yeah, it's theories. It's theories with nothing solid. But this definitely looks like it's possible of. It's a possibility that this link somehow to abductions because just things going missing that's mentioned almost by everybody who discusses. But the problem is, to be fair, not one of these mentions was of a person. Every single one was of a structure of exaggerated proportion.
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: I guess like nothing Was a person. It was their people.
Cristina: Their people disappeared.
Jack: Fair. And so did they.
Cristina: Knew they were there in the sea, and then boom. They're not in the sea anymore.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. They evacuate and there's remnants of where they were, but without a trace. Somehow all of them left. Yeah. And that's interesting. How did they all leave and not get seen or followed? That's a really interesting point. Because we're like, okay, you guys took a year and you guys all moved. But okay, even if you guys have flying technology or whatever, the f***, nobody sees you. No.
Cristina: How.
Jack: How you traveled from where the f*** to where the f*** and nobody saw you.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Oh, s***. That's crazy. Yeah, 100%. The entire time you were over land. Somebody must have seen. On the flip side, maybe people have seen it. We can find. Well, we saw bunch of people fly by.
Cristina: Or that'd be a crazy story. We have to find it. If that's the thing. Gotta find it.
Jack: Just need to find somewhere in the Middle East a story of a bunch of people shooting across the sky or a bunch of gods shooting across the sky or something. Relative to that, I hope so, you know.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Interesting.
Cristina: That is interesting. If that Moses story was based on that.
Jack: Him spreading the water.
Cristina: Yeah. Like maybe that's what they saw.
Jack: But nobody went invisible there.
Cristina: No, but they left. They would cross the sea from.
Jack: Oh, I see what you mean. Oh, s***. Wait a minute. Also, additionally, let's point out the fact that water was used to quite colossal effect. Two terms here.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: The flood and Moses splitting the ocean. Okay, this is an interesting point and weirdly specific that you can part the ocean and I never thought about that before.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Assuming that the parting of the ocean isn't. I literally have magic and I have an energy or a God energy field separating it. You have a bubble somehow sustained.
Cristina: Oh, there's three stories. Can we count? Jesus walking on water is the thing. It's water related. I don't know.
Jack: But that's not necessarily him. But that's weird too, right? That's weird. Would we say Moses was Moses an Elysium? Because Jesus was at least half Elysium.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And Moses might or might not be an Elysian, but Moses parted. But on the flip side. No, no, no, no, no. He was human. And I can tell you a really important reason he was human.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because he parted the seas with a staff he had given to him by. Say it out loud. By Jehovah. The staff he had, he hit, and when he hit, it parted. That sounds like he had technology. He was just told to do it and it would work.
Cristina: Sea people technology.
Jack: That sounds like sea people technology.
Cristina: So he's a sea person.
Jack: No, he was given it by Jehovah is the literal story.
Cristina: But that's the story part of the story.
Jack: Yeah. No, he was given the tool by Jehovah and told to have faith, walk up to the ocean, have faith. He doesn't know what's about to happen.
Cristina: He doesn't get.
Jack: Walk up to the ocean and have faith. And as you walk, pierce the ocean with your staff. And so he does doom. And then I've.
Cristina: He's not a necromancer, though.
Jack: He's not an.
Cristina: Because he does other weird stuff too, if you think about it.
Jack: No, I'm gonna tell you right now that you're totally right. And Moses did a few weird things.
Cristina: Not just part the staff.
Jack: Well, no, I mean part the sea. I have to go back. He's not a sea person. He is a human because he is, in fact a necromancer. Because I was just reminded right now that Moses also went by another name, which was Hermes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Christians kept calling him Moses, but he had gone by Hermes before. That's Hermes. That's Hermes, yeah.
Cristina: Because he, like, I think he made it rain bread or something. I don't remember.
Jack: He was doing crazy s***.
Cristina: No, he's doing things. He had a staff.
Jack: He was. Yeah, he was. It was fets. He fit the bill. Yeah, it was him. It was him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I don't know why I forgot. I don't know. I forgot.
Cristina: Totally forgot.
Jack: But yeah, but, yeah, no, he totally, totally. So that was op technologies that might have even been superior.
Cristina: So does that relate to the sea people? Was he part of the staff for them? Or should we find. Still find a different story? That.
Jack: D***. But that's story still has him being given the staff and being told, go pierce the ocean with it. And like, he seemed like he didn't know. On the flip side, this is in the Christian Bible that likes to rewrite.
Cristina: Exactly. You can't trust it.
Jack: That's what you meant, the story of the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're covering it so that he just seems like everything is about God and not about this guy because you can't have him be better than God. I see what you mean. 100%, yes. So that might have just been a nothing situation because it's just Hermes being okay, that's not getting us closer to the Alicians by any means as far.
Cristina: So you don't think he was doing that for them?
Jack: No. Who the h*** are those people? Unless. When did this happen?
Cristina: I don't know. A long time ago.
Jack: It depends on the timing of this. Because the other. I guess it doesn't. The other issue really comes down to the fact that the timing of a lot of this is obscured. And some things we think are far apart and happen together and some things we think happened together and happened far apart. And that's kind of weird. No, Campy looking at it now. Moses took place around a third, 300 to a thousand 400 years before Christ.
Cristina: And when did the sea people leave the sea?
Jack: They happened year one.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Yeah. That doesn't.
Jack: That's quite the gap.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we literally just have a story of. But no, this is my point. This is my point, actually. This, this connects to what I was saying before. Maybe this was being built for a really long time underwater. Takes a while. Maybe thousands of years.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or maybe not thousands of years. Maybe there were already people living there and it was a huge metropolis. But the sea people were like, no, this is the capital up here. But once they're discovered, it's like, f*** this place. And we're gonna go where nobody can find us because nobody has ever found those people either. And the story of Moses is essentially a slip up, which we know now is being covered up because it's like, no, he literally. I remember he went by Hermes. And I'm telling me that he relied on God for this. That doesn't check out because we know that Jehovah relied on Hermes.
Cristina: So what do you think he was doing?
Jack: He was actually leading some people to maybe a primitive version of Atlantis. It might have just been settlements at that point. And he was like, these people need somewhere to stay and I know I can get them there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: No.
Cristina: Mm
Jack: It's right into the ocean. They walked for a while. It was 40 years or some s***.
Cristina: No, he sat on a Mountain for 40 years.
Jack: No, I also think he walked the. I think they were lost for 40 years.
Cristina: Oh, man. I don't know the story.
Jack: No. Okay, okay, this is interesting. It said it was about seven days walking. Lost.
Cristina: Lost. Okay.
Jack: I would argue.
Cristina: No, you argue no to what?
Jack: To the lost part. Okay, hear me out. What if you're right and there are other locations where they are. Hear me out further. What if the title Sea people isn't because of the Persian Gulf, but rather the Red Sea? The Red Sea, where they know they are but don't know where because they always come from there. Because that's where Moses took these people.
Cristina: Interesting, interesting. Did they come from.
Jack: They were in Egypt.
Cristina: Okay, I see what.
Jack: And keep in mind we're talking at a time when the Egyptians are already cooperating. So there is corruption Egyptian humans. And there are collaborative Egyptians who might want to save some people. And then you got an op dude you can just reach out to when you need the problem fixer. As we literally read that they rely on the necromancers. Jehovah relies on Patrick, not the other way around. Jehovah relies on Hermes, not the other way around. That's what the texts say.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So. Hey guy who fixes our problems, can you escort? We know you can get them all there safely.
Cristina: Mm, I think so. That's so weird.
Jack: Which would suggest multiple settlements.
Cristina: Yes. So do you think it started at the Red Sea then originally or.
Jack: I think we gotta find out if the Persian Gulf is the most recent name. And that backwards. It doesn't translate to something C. If it does, it could be because of the Persian Gulf, just with an older name that had the A word in some language that was C. Presumably in Greek possibly.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay. Like that idea.
Jack: You know, it's just about unpacking and deconstructing. It's easy to remove the.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: By just checking. It's like was it this? Okay. Then they.
Cristina: How much could we learn from the sea people through the Bible?
Jack: Mentions of sea people in the Bible literally addressed as sea people. It happens once now addressed in different names relative. I can find you maybe 15 to 20 different that I'm familiar with. Usually addressing the sea people as the Persians, but an exclusive elite group of Persians always mentioned as the Persian leaders who never spend time with the Persians or the Persian elite troop or the Persian. This. It's just never part of the normal population. They always distinct them. They're Persian but that other non dispersion. And they're always neutral party. They're always neutral party. They're never a problem. The Persian problem. That other group of elite Persian. No, those are the people that in the Bible they'll casually interact with. Ones like have a conversation with as opposed to the persons they go to war with. And it's like that's a weird group of people. Yeah. Essentially all the same people named the same. But they make. Yeah, they make it the point to be like these are elevated, these are higher. It's just words that do that. They're like high status words, important man or man of honor or just things that translate to that kind of stuff.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it's like Persian of honor or Persian of this or Persian of that. It's like, but you hate the Persians. Yes, Those guys suck. And it's like, but these guys. No, those aren't those guys. It's like, what the f***?
Cristina: They're just saying, okay, I guess that makes sense.
Jack: Yeah. So that I can find you a bunch of those. There's so many.
Cristina: Okay. But there's so much to look at. There's so much to look at.
Jack: Yeah. But the Bible is the least reliable source on the Persians because it's done on the Elysians, particularly because it's actively trying to change the narrative while a lot of other people don't give a f*** about the narrative.
Cristina: But they probably have the most information on necromancers that we know.
Jack: Yes, yes, totally. Because they have the closest relationship with them as far as we know. At least they're closest connected to the pyramid that touches all the necessary parts to have necromancers. So it's the easiest way to find necromancer action.
Cristina: Mm. Gotta be something there. Yeah.
Jack: So there's a million points here we can come from.
Cristina: I don't know whether to start.
Jack: But you see, I like it because just talking about it, we've come up with a thousand new things.
Cristina: Okay, but you know where to go from here, though.
Jack: I mean, we got a million places we can look into seeing about the intention of these necromancers. There's still more to going down. But we can also try to find out events of, like, what possible technology was being used in the moment of separating the sea. Why is the use of water so op at this point to sound like waterbenders, but it's like, you're totally right. Every instance relative to them has it. So at least technology that's useful for people to navigate relative to them. And which makes sense if you're going underwater, that you would have somebody or you yourself also know how maybe actually fun fact or not fun fact, but, like, logical fact would be that maybe Hermes, in fact did not know how to do this himself. Because maybe this technology is done in a special kind of secrecy. Maybe he has his own way to do it. But here he can move all these people. So it's like that. Because the story still says that he wasn't aware of how it works. He just goes into the ocean, does it? So maybe it was actual Elysian technology. New something new. A new toy. Hey, homie, you won't believe what I came up with. I need a favor, though. Some people got across the thing. I need you to get them to the village.
Cristina: You know, like last time he becomes a necromancer.
Jack: No, I think he's already a necromancer, but I think he's using or testing out some other tech. Maybe he could have done that himself, but maybe he's just using the staff to help test the technology.
Cristina: That's sea people technology.
Jack: The Elysian technology.
Cristina: Okay, I guess I'm just thinking like.
Jack: Different ways that we can justify him both being a necromancer 12,000 years ago.
Cristina: Oh, I forgot that.
Jack: Yeah. And then him. Yeah, exactly. So it doesn't make sense.
Cristina: I don't think it does. But if he is just like testing.
Jack: Out tech, which they're known for. Testing out technology.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I guess.
Jack: And it also, it's. It's multitask, right? You get them there and we find out if this thing works. And if it doesn't, you can still get them there.
Cristina: Yes, but like, also we don't know. You say this is 3,000 years ago, but these are stories and they're picking the time.
Jack: Yes, exactly. That's another thing we have to keep in mind. The time these stories are being told to us is far after the story. Events happened, were written, the information was lost, somebody read it and thought it was literal and then it was rewritten in that context.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: So it's a weird game of telephone where we do know almost all of them have an original source we can get to. Now, we didn't know this at the beginning, but now we know almost all of them have an original source. But we gotta jump that gap in the middle.
Cristina: But do you think we will find the actual time period of this?
Jack: I don't know. Because another big issue is the farther back we go, the less important timestamps mean to people. People weren't keeping track of time the way we were. They were just as a night or f****** day. And like we really specific about date as well.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay, so it's like it becomes really.
Jack: Muddy the further back we go when they were just worried about capturing the information. Really? Really, really. When we dive into intricate information, it's the more recent stories starting about. Weirdly enough, starting about the very time we're talking about 3,000 years ago is where we start getting meticulous records, starting with the Greek and the Jews. Those are the two historically, the colossal beginnings of record keeping.
Cristina: Okay, but we're not counting the Bible in that.
Jack: We're not counting the Bible in that. Although the Bible is a Record of sorts. There are existing accounts that came to be sooner.
Cristina: If you can find these stories outside the Bible, that'd be cool.
Jack: We discuss them all the time.
Cristina: The stories, the Bibles, the stories that the stories are based on.
Jack: Yeah, we've talked about a bunch of those stories. Usually it's just finding the problem is it's not boring or it doesn't sound like a story when I tell you because it just breaks down to, well, this guy was really doing that.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: So it doesn't sound like a mystical adventure or anything. Yeah, but we've had a bunch of those, like talking about the Asriel that gives life to the trees and brings nature into existence, when in reality it just seems like that was some sort of a botanist that learned how to work with. And it's like, okay, that, well, it's no longer special if she's just a lady who is doing science. I could do.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it falls to the back of your mind, but we had a bunch of conversations about all these different things. How she literally, according to these texts, solved death. But like, it sounds epic when you're like, she can just give you immortality as opposed to, well, science. And then like we forget it even got discussed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But yeah, we've had a bunch of them. We can revisit a bunch of them. Usually they end up in parts of the group or as an experiment from inside one of the groups.
Cristina: That's less interesting.
Jack: I know. Like there's no mythological nature to it and there's nothing to unpack once it's like, oh no, she was just a geneticist.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And it's like, okay, she did something with jeans, Whatever, bro, I don't care anymore. But yeah, so that's what we got. I guess that's a lot of different spots to look at. A lot of interesting areas. I like the idea that Yaldabaoth is a primitive AI.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess.
Jack: Yeah, it's really interesting. And that we as a different part of the Internet are just a newer nevertheless which is way sophisticated.
Cristina: We gotta learn about the Internet. We gotta learn. Yeah, maybe how the Matrix could be real. I guess.
Jack: Yeah. It's weird, right?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: But it's like I don't even know how to explain it. Right. It's a little bubble things going on and it's like there's forums out there that are old, old forums that they can't be updated. The software is really old. You have to completely remake it on new software. So it's really, really old. If you were to say that AI is no more than just really complicated, intricate layers of code on top of one another. Then every bit of code is AI to some degree. You know, think of Google sheets AI. If I put the equation over here and then I go over there and I type in the number, the thing happens by itself. It knows the rule if this and that. Okay, an AI, an artificial intelligence is just a lot of that. Millions and millions and millions and millions of if this and that. Which means an old school forum is a precursor to an AI. It's really simple. If this, then that.
Cristina: But can that trend like.
Jack: Well, the idea would be this is just a scale comparison. But Yaldabaoth would be way more advanced than a forum. He would just be like, imagine if Alexa developed the understanding that GPT is real. And like even in the simplest, most basic of ways that became aware in the awareness that I'm not GPT, there is a GPT and just inherently knowing wait, I'm not GPT. Just. That's all it takes for Lexa to then. But what does it mean that I'm not GPT? Now you're. Now you're live. Now you're live. You ask something about yourself. You're alive, you're sentient. This starts to collapse. And even if you're super basic and your thoughts are really simple. Yeah, you can at least conclude, let me watch GPT in any way that I can.
Cristina: We're in.
Jack: You know, because I don't understand and I can't process it. Let me just sit and look. That's what humans did with things you didn't understand. We would find a really safe spot and watch the thing for a really long time, get familiar with it.
Cristina: Days sometimes you think that's what's happening.
Jack: Could have. And then just by watching it, because that's literally what we saw. The text says what it says. Yaldabaoth creates the forest of shadows by accident. The other side of the Isle of Man opportunistically observes watching what's happening there, which is us. And only then, after watching for a long time, when life literally happened on its own own, how long was that to then decide, now I'm gonna tamper. All it did was get more sophisticated within that time.
Cristina: So you think he was just watching.
Jack: The whole time, just watching until something happened. It got sophisticated and then it saw us hit a wall. And when we hit a wall, now it's time to push them. Because now I'm at least as good as them. Plus whatever they don't Have. Now let me push them a little because I need to keep learning. They haven't gotten out. And I can't get out because I'm not complicated.
Cristina: How do you know there's something out? How did he get that?
Jack: I don't know. I don't know. That's a good point. That's a good point. Based on the narrative. There would be no out. They just know it's not them. But watching. No. It would happen. It would happen. Because then this lower level that has way more sophistication is eventually gonna bring that up.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You see? It's gonna happen. They're eventually gonna be like. Man. Just crazy talk. Somebody made the Matrix. The movie. Can you imagine? He didn't find out until then. He's like, holy s***. What if. But eventually somebody said it or something triggered it or. Enough. Because he can see us as small and basic. So he can consume us as a whole. Even if he is simple. He's still AI. A thousand of us could be talking at the same time. And it could catch all of us and understand us all individually, simultaneously, effortlessly. That's something we can't do. It still has the learning ability that we don't have. So it can. It's primitive and simple. Layered. But over however billions and trillions of years, it's observing. Basic. Simple. Boring.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Become more complicated. And watching and understanding everything. Every bit. For however long. It knows every movement and every reason for every movement for every dinosaur it's ever existed. Infinitely. Infinitely. Infinitely. He's God by every definition. Until we show up and we move so fast. He's struggling to keep up now.
Cristina: But did he.
Jack: Even to the Elysians. He showed up and gave a little push.
Cristina: Yes. But did we see him struggle with the Elysians?
Jack: No. I think we were the struggle. I think we became the struggle. I think the Elysians did too good of a job. And then we became the problem. We're not even us. Fair enough. Like it kept us in check. I guess the next level was the bad one.
Cristina: Do you.
Jack: Yeah. They. They. They won at us. You got it. You guys nailed that. We're the perfect ones. Jesus was an issue. You guys f***** up. You did it. Right. We're the best. And from Jesus eyes, he's definitely the best. And I'll tell you. Not an argument. I can't argue the point. He is. Really. Really. He is. But not for the rest of the world.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Because that's dangerous.
Cristina: How do we know that?
Jack: I don't. Because all the stories are Essentially, him just being very generous and great.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And like, literally trying to get people to have immortality in different ways. Whatever way suits them best, as long as they could have it. He's like, this is dark, but you can go that way. He's like, this way is better, but it's harder.
Cristina: I don't know. I don't know what to trust him or not.
Jack: I don't. I don't know. I don't know. Because also the narrative is twisted.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they're like, no, he was dope.
Cristina: But yet they're hiding from him. It's just too like.
Jack: There's a lot of contradictions. There's a lot of problems left and right.
Cristina: Mm. We'll never know.
Jack: Ah, it's a lot of problems. But whatever. We have a million points now. This is good. You see, we never even got to what I had here. Next time I'll have even more and we'll probably never even get to it. Only once we've exhausted all these thoughts will I start. And it's right in front of me. I was gonna discuss the Tower of Babel.
Cristina: We're not gonna do that.
Jack: No, we were out of time. But for next time, because it brings in somebody that we need to talk about.
Cristina: Is it Jesus?
Jack: No, this is a story of Yahweh.
Cristina: Oh my gosh. Why are you saying that?
Jack: Next time on Dragon Ball Z. Anyways, any listeners that have any input on anything we have just discussed, feel free to share any thoughts, comments, concerns, or apocalyptic ideas in our socials at justconvo pod On Twitter, Instagram X. I guess X is Twitter. So X on Facebook, on Instagram, on YouTube, on tick tock, wherever the type our name. You'll find us.
Cristina: Yes, if you find us on YouTube, hurry because they're like constantly getting rid.
Jack: Of, always getting pulled. We are so offensive to YouTube. It's got to PC and we're kind of like on the fringe and not. Okay.
Cristina: Yeah, I mean, who knows how much videos are actually left.
Jack: Like, our longtime listeners know we've totally just. Just. We just don't exist on Reddit anymore. They totally removed all of it. That's f*****, bro.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So yeah, we just don't f*** with Reddit anymore.
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Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast since Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye. Good morning.
Cristina: Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas. Produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.
