Rambling 289: The Neighborhood of Paradise
/Where is Paradise? What is the history of this mysterious place? What is the true purpose of this hidden Neighborhood Town? The duo finally deep dive into the most mysterious neighborhood in the United States. Nearly impossible to locate, almost no information about it and the strangest circumstances surrounding the area around the neighborhood. The truth about this place will be revealed.
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Topics Discussed:
- West Milford New Jersey
- Secret Dirt Road
- Google Maps
- Private Residency
- Public Records
- Personal Accounts
- Resources and Food
- Extremely Strange Details
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And boy, oh, boy, our ideas can get quite, quite baffled today. There is so much baffling to happen, but this requires us to kind of unpack a little something that we've been dealing with lately. So in the previous episode, we were dealing with the Minotaur, a creature from Greek mythology, which turned out to just basically be some kind of freak show experiment.
Cristina: Two of them.
Jack: Two of them. The Toro Boban and the Minotaur, which are related and unrelated simultaneously, like they're brothers. Not the same thing. Although both creatures were discussed in mythology for God knows how long as one thing.
Cristina: That's pretty crazy.
Jack: Yes. Now, one of the things that we realized discussing these creatures was a pattern that we'd noticed before elsewhere, which was where these creatures were. The labyrinth.
Cristina: Labyrinth. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jack: And the labyrinth is identical to a different location we're very familiar with, which is the house of this lady who was messing with ghosts and creating sort.
Cristina: Of made a labyrinth.
Jack: Yeah. Her house was a labyrinth. Slowly and meticulously built. She stopped contractors from coming in and assisting because she knew they couldn't figure it out. The way she needed it done was very specific. And so the labyrinth, although the construction of the labyrinth isn't specified, the purpose of the labyrinth is kind of clear. Opposite to the lady's house mansion, where the purpose of the labyrinth was not explained, but the construction. Yes. And we can assume one informs the other. We can assume that the labyrinth where the Toro Boban was was very meticulously built and that the purpose of the mansion being a maze was for the same reason that we're formed. The labyrinth is for that entrance, for the entrance at the center, the seance room and the entrance at the Minotaur Guards Y are one in the same, and, well, not literally one the same, but identical in use and purpose. And this was quite illuminating to find this pattern because it told us about the third location that we have maybe been looking in the wrong places this entire time.
Cristina: Somewhere in Clinton Road.
Jack: Somewhere in Clinton Road. Now, we've looked at the castle, we've brushed over Paradise Road. We've looked at the mines, we've looked at the woods, the bridge, the lake, and we just don't find what we're looking for.
Cristina: I mean, it could be in the mines. We have no idea.
Jack: It could totally be in the mines. But the mines are just connected to the castle.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's all one somehow. And then the surface level, because again, the mines in the bottom of the castle are connected underground. And then the top layer is a jumbled mess of. You pop it in here. Come over there. You can see this over here. You can see that over there, a weird mess that kind of feels like the maze, but not exactly, because you're not popping in and out. You're not getting lost in this space and popping up in that space. Literally, you're seeing them. But there is a place that behaves like that that, again, we've brushed over, but never really focused on in great detail because the lady in white doesn't seem to be there. The boy doesn't seem to be there. It doesn't seem to be any particular experiments taking place there.
Cristina: But you hear children there, or at least your experience children.
Jack: Yes. And there's reports of that. Yes.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Which is not Paradise Road, but Paradise itself. The neighborhood town.
Cristina: An actual real town.
Jack: It's a neighborhood.
Cristina: Is. Yes. But, like, that's the. What you think is the hotspot. The.
Jack: I don't think it's a hotspot is what fits. Yeah, it fits the maze description. Because my personal experience in there was the roads were shifting. We took a straight line. We went on the dirt road named. We went on the road named paradise that became a dirt road and went into an indescript road that took us to Paradise. From paradise, we go in a straight line, no turns. We see houses to the left, woods to the right. We make it to what seems like the other end, do a K turn. So we're looking back where we started. Go in a straight line and don't find the exit.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: So a clean 180 back from where we came, except no longer was the dirt road. We came from there.
Cristina: That's such a crazy story, but has anyone experienced such a thing?
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: What? What? What? What?
Jack: Okay, Exactly. So let's unpack what we know about Paradise. So paradise is, as we know, located around Clinton Road in the West Milford, like, forest region.
Cristina: It's a small town in the forest.
Jack: It's a neighborhood that feels kind of like a town.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And the. I looked at this on Google Maps to kind of, like, try to zone in, and it's way specific. Now, in the Google Maps overview, you can't actually get a street view all the way through Paradise. Now, it goes as Follows Clinton Road, goes up the right side. You're just looking. You're looking at Google Maps right now. You got a square screen in front of you. To your right, Clinton Road is just going straight up. We're zoomed in, only on Paradise Road. So Clinton Road starts, and it just goes through the whole screen and keeps going. You don't see it. It's just the piece that you do see. And the beginning and ending out of your sight. Okay, Now, a random in the script road connects to Paradise. You can enter Paradise Road from another street elsewhere. Okay, Perfectly fine. And Paradise Road just kind of winds, goes around. It takes a nice little kind of left loop and then connects to a different town. Perfectly fine.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Now, between the left entrance of the town of the Paradise Road, the first, whatever the f*** the name of that road is that connects, there's an immediate neighborhood there and the bottom entrance. So to the left of your screen, you would have one entrance. It goes right, winds down the exit to the bottom. It's very small road. The exit to the bottom connects to two roads. The one that connects to Clinton, and again, just another part of a main road somewhere. Mm, the left entrance. You cannot do a street view starting there. Now, you can see that whole neighborhood there from the Google Maps top. It's a visible neighborhood. And if you were to drop your pin on that road to the left, even if you can't get a street view going through the street into the neighborhood, you can see the neighborhood from the street. You can drop the pin perfectly fine. The other end at the bottom of the screen, you could drop the pin there, and you can go on Paradise Road about halfway up before, in Google Maps, on the street view, it just turns into a dirt road. Suddenly you're just moving, and it's paved, paved, paved. And then the pave just kind of ends and fizzles out. And now it's just a dirt road.
Cristina: And that's what you remember, a dirt road. Right.
Jack: It's not the dirt road I remember specifically, but I'll get to that. Okay, but this road just becomes a dirt road suddenly. And you can't go farther with the street view. It stops right there. You cannot move farther beyond that point. Now, this gives you a bit of a loop, begins loops, connects to the other side. The loop area starts at the neighborhood, goes, and then connects to where it becomes paved again, that loop area, you cannot see it on Google Maps from Street View. You can only see the road from Google Maps skyview from the top down. Okay? The road that's in the script that connects to paradise comes out of that side you cannot see on the street view. Additionally, the road that connects cannot be seen from the sky view because it's covered by the forest. Oh, I looked for it and I couldn't find it. It doesn't exist. It's there.
Cristina: It's there underneath.
Jack: Underneath the trees. It's such a literal dirt road. It doesn't exist from the sky view. And Google Maps literally doesn't allow you to explore it. To explore it.
Cristina: Maybe it doesn't see it as a road though, because you said it's trees.
Jack: It's trees. Yeah. It's covered by trees.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Very weird.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: Very strange. Who the h*** knows? Okay, okay, here's the literal view I'm talking about. So for reference, down here is Clinton Road.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: This is Clinton Road all going up. This is the road that connects the Paradise Road. There's many different ways you can connect. A little neighborhood down there. You can also see there's a little.
Cristina: Neighborhood over here, what's considered Paradise Road.
Jack: This entire thing is Paradise Road. Okay, now, weird fact right here. If I were to grab a little thingy. Oh, I can't. I gotta zoom in a little more. Let me go in a little deeper. But you see that neighborhood right up there, Right? It's visible right here.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: Okay, now you see what's happening here?
Cristina: I'm not sure what's happening.
Jack: Oh, my God. Yeah, I can't drop the pin in the neighborhood. I can't.
Cristina: The line is. It has to be blue for you to drop it in. Is that what's happening?
Jack: Okay, yes. And if I go down to the other end, I can again show you. Interesting.
Cristina: No? Yeah. There's specific, but it sees it as a road.
Jack: So I can definitely knows and it sees it as a road.
Cristina: Yeah, but you can't go into those towns. There's some towns there that looks like you can't look at the road.
Jack: Yeah, sure. That's totally fine. What we're looking at is paradise and specific. There's many locations you can't look at. It's. Why is this the specific location we can't look at? And you see how it was paved at some point. You can see that it's paved underneath it, but it's slowly getting more dirt focused as we go.
Cristina: Eventually it just be there.
Jack: Eventually it's just going to be dirt. It just kind of fizzles out deeper and deeper. And it doesn't matter the dark distance we go slowly but surely we hit this very point where it just completely becomes rocks.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
Jack: Oh, it's just. It's just rocks now.
Cristina: It's just rocks. Yeah.
Jack: And now I can't even go. It just became totally rocks that the street fizzled out and I can't go farther.
Cristina: That's it. That is weird.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: But that's still the road.
Jack: That's still Paradise Road. They could have easily just driven. It's still a road. It's a drivable road. It's clearly drivable. Why did the Google Scanner driver not want to go there? Who told the Google scanner driver, don't go beyond this point? And how does this make any sense if the neighborhood on the other end is clearly a functioning, elaborate neighborhood and you can jump into that neighborhood as you saw previously? No.
Cristina: Oh, I saw in the bottom. I wasn't looking up there.
Jack: Well, I showed you that there's no way onto here before.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Except for that one road. You can't go onto the.
Jack: You can't enter the beginning of this road.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Weird, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now this is Paradise Road we're looking at. Somewhere on Paradise Road is the access road to the neighborhood of Paradise. This isn't the neighborhood of Paradise.
Cristina: It's not?
Jack: No, it's not. That's just a random neighborhood.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The neighborhood of paradise was so cluttered by trees that every house within a two foot radius had a fully grown tree directly next to it, which means its roof would be totally covered by trees.
Cristina: So you're saying it's there, but it's not there. Like we can't see it.
Jack: I think we can. And I think that's this circular formation we're looking at here. You can see little spicks of white in a circular formation going on. It's there, but it's hidden. Hidden.
Cristina: That's scary.
Jack: It's visibly in front of our face. You think you can see this whole little area right here fully covered by trees?
Cristina: Yeah. Except there's something in there. Yeah. What?
Jack: And that would mean that the access road must be directly in the area that we can't see.
Cristina: Weird. And we can't even check it out.
Jack: We can't check it out. We can't look at it. We can't do anything without going there ourselves. It would be impossible. There's no other way to investigate. You have to go there.
Cristina: So it's not even like a town we go find, but it is a real town.
Jack: It's there.
Cristina: We can see it there.
Jack: We can see it nice and hidden. We can't Tell where the road begins and ends.
Jack: There's no way to spot the access point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But it's there because they must be reaching the neighborhood up here somehow. But I remember it being just the. We were just teenagers exploring, and we're like, hey, sketchy dirt road. Let's go on it. And so we did, and we landed at this place. I couldn't tell you exactly where the road is.
Cristina: No.
Jack: But I know in which direction it's going.
Cristina: It's impossible. It's impossible to see, like, how. You had to be there.
Jack: You had to be there. You have to literally be driving this road in order to find it to begin with.
Cristina: It's just. It's not there.
Jack: Yeah. And that road has no name.
Cristina: That road has no name.
Jack: No. Yeah. This is Paradise Road. And Paradise Road leads us to the dirt road, which is somewhere hidden in the woods. No markings. Google doesn't even recognize it as a road. Yet there's still a neighborhood we can see, covered by trees. There is a way there.
Cristina: Weird.
Jack: Additionally, if you look at Paradise Road and you look at Clinton Road, they're about almost equal distances from the neighborhood. In fact, the bottom part of the neighborhood is probably equal. Literally equal distances to both sides. So there might be more than one road in. Unless paradise is the only way. But that means we can maybe drive across Clinton Road and spot in that direction of road. But I did that and didn't find anything.
Cristina: And you typed in Paradise Road and it doesn't pop up.
Jack: No. Paradise Road is this road. Oh, you type in Paradise Road and it'll show you this.
Cristina: Yeah, Paradise, I guess. Can you type in paradise, though?
Jack: No, it won't tell you where the neighborhood is.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Now you can find information about the neighborhood online. Not a lot.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But the neighborhood is definitely written about and exists, and people have seen it.
Cristina: Yes, but on Google Maps, it does.
Jack: Not exist on Google. Well, yeah, exactly. It tries by any means to pretend this clear formation here, this circular formation doesn't exist.
Cristina: Very strange. That is very strange.
Jack: But clearly. Obviously. Obviously. Come on, bro. Obviously. We're looking at houses stacked in the middle of this.
Cristina: What else could that be?
Jack: What else could that be? In a perfect little circle, too. Yeah, Perfect little circle going on.
Cristina: There's something weird happening in those trees.
Jack: With the largest patch being in the middle.
Cristina: Weird. That's the church. No, that's. That is so strange, because there's something in the woods. There's something in the woods. You can see there's things there, but you can't see what those things are, we can't investigate.
Jack: We have to literally be there in person. There's no way to like weird, weird.
Cristina: Did it have. I guess on Google they have pictures of the town. Is it like very foresty? Because that's ridiculous.
Jack: It looks like it's people's estimated photo. Like it's not really about the town. It might just be neighborhoods surrounding it.
Cristina: Yeah. It could be abandoned town for all I know. I don't understand.
Jack: Yeah, it could totally be an abandoned town. It's odd in general.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's a weird view right here.
Cristina: Yes. Is it abandoned? Do you know that? Do you know?
Jack: I don't know what to tell you based on that. If it is, you'll find out as we go through it. But details about this hidden, private, rural as all h*** neighborhood, as we know, located in West Milford, New Jersey. What we just saw, it is tucked away off of the infamous Clinton Road. Very close. But you wouldn't find that considering the area. And the only access point is off of Paradise Road.
Cristina: Yeah, that is weird. Okay.
Jack: Which becomes a dirt road suddenly. Now it doesn't become an undrivable dirt road. Any car, as you saw, any car could easily drive that road.
Cristina: Yeah, it's still a road.
Jack: It's still a clearly clear road. It's a dirt road, but it's not. It's not even bumpy. It was just nice and smooth.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: It's just an unpaved, very smooth road. Any car could easily traverse it. Yeah. And on the other end, it's paved too. It just becomes paved again. It's really just going through this one patch that whoever decided we're gonna pave the road also decided we're gonna stop paving it right here.
Jack: Weird.
Cristina: There has to be reasons for that.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, super strange. You just decided out of nowhere we're just not gonna finish paving it. We're going to ignore that other neighborhood, not pave through it. And the entire. Just for whatever reason, we're not going to finish connecting it.
Cristina: That road is in itself some weird mystery. Something's happening on that road.
Jack: Strange, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Okay. So weird. It's so weird. It just becomes a dirt road that leads to a hard to find access road that we couldn't find from the top. And I know it was weird when we found the access road the first time. We're like, oh, weird dirt road. A legitimate dirt road that just goes where? Let's find out.
Cristina: Yeah, okay.
Jack: Strangest thing ever. So the road, the access road that comes off of paradise, it has no marking. So it's basically a nameless road. That's why we just refer to it by Paradise Road. Because Paradise Road is the only road connecting to it that has name.
Cristina: Okay. But it itself isn't really.
Jack: Yeah, we can assume. Yeah, it's just a random, like, connecting road, if anything. So really, the only way to the neighborhood is Paradise Road. And then this indescript, unnamed, hard to find other road.
Cristina: Mystery Road. Okay.
Jack: Yo, that's beautiful. Mystery Road.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Interesting. Mystery Road can only be accessed through Paradise Road.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And additionally, Mystery Road is particularly difficult to locate at night because of its completely covered up nature. It's swallowed alive by the surrounding foliage.
Cristina: It's so strange that you even stumble upon it.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, it really is.
Cristina: Because your goal wasn't to go on to Paradise Road or anything. It was just.
Jack: It was just Clinton Road. And we were just trying to scare each other. And we found this other road, jumped on it, and then we somehow found this other. And then before long, we're in Paradise. Yeah, we do remember it. When we get into the neighborhood, there's a sign that says welcome to paradise. That we do remember. And then following that, sinuses beware deaf children. And somebody, you know, sketchly cross one out or whatever. Dead children. But that's really weird. Just getting to it is odd. Just seeing it is weird.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And like we just saw, you can follow it. You can follow paradise and it will not continue weird.
Cristina: But it's weird.
Jack: Suddenly becomes a dirt road weird. And that's less weird than the Google scanner. Just not driving it. Dude. So many dirt roads you have driven. This is the shortest patch ever of dirt road that you could possibly drive. It would have been the easiest job completion ever. It would have taken you three minutes.
Cristina: I don't know, maybe it wasn't. It didn't want to because, like, the. The places in a forest, like, even if they laid that out, you wouldn't see anything. You just have lines in the forest. Right in the Google search.
Jack: Well, no. Why. Why didn't he. Complete driving Paradise.
Cristina: Oh, paradise itself.
Jack: He didn't have to go off of Mystery Road. He could have just kept driving Paradise. It would have taken him three minutes.
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: There's nothing in the way. It's just a dirt road that connects right back to the rest of the town.
Cristina: Because you want us to see Mystery Road. I guess. I guess that's why I was. I don't know.
Jack: It seems like they're protecting that road. Right?
Cristina: Like, even if there's no Reason to go onto that road.
Jack: It's weird.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So definitely cannot be found without going there personally. Already the strangest part. Mm, weird. All right, next. It's primarily a residential area. Paradise Town, the neighborhood town. Now, it contains no business structures, no markets or anything of the sort. It's purely residential. People just live in there.
Cristina: Okay, that's a little weird, but I mean, it's not weird.
Jack: You're surrounded by mad neighborhoods with stores and stuff. And I'm sure a downtown area isn't not too far off. Yeah, it's very countryside where, you know, we all live over here, and I got to drive 20 minutes in the town to get to buy groceries or whatever the f***, you know, that kind of thing. So they kind of just live in there. And the roads of the neighborhood are paved. I remember that specifically. The roads inside the neighborhood are paved, which means people came to pave, stopping short on paradise just to block off that part of the dirt road.
Cristina: And that must be another spot that you enter the town through. Maybe.
Jack: Maybe. And then. But it's not Clinton Road, because I click through just following. There's not one moment in which a road goes left. There's nothing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And I looked carefully.
Cristina: Strange. Okay. I don't know what.
Jack: But the neighborhood is paved, Meaning somebody came to pave in the neighborhood and just close enough on paradise, but didn't finish paradise or Mystery Road.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: Weird pattern. Immediately reminds me of the lady who made the mansion where she let people do some parts, and it was like, no, get the h*** out. I got it. The specifics require me to finish these parts.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: Very reminiscent of that.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Of like, nah, I don't need your help anymore.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: Weird. Weird. Just looking at this stuff now, because of this nature, even if the neighborhood is paved and most of paradise is paved, it kind of makes the neighborhood exceptionally reclusive and exceptionally isolated from the rest of the world because you'd have to know where to find a dirt road.
Cristina: That's like, how do people even end up moving in there? Huh?
Jack: And another detail is that the primarily residential area has less than 50 homes total. Very small.
Cristina: Less than 50 homes. Wow. That's a small.
Jack: Tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny.
Cristina: It's not a town, though. It's. It's just a neighborhood.
Jack: It's just a neighborhood. But I will continue to call it a neighborhood town because of how removed it is. Yeah, it feels like a town.
Cristina: Yeah, it does.
Jack: Even if it's a neighborhood, it's weird. It's got already a weird vibe that makes it hard to describe in general, but it formed in the early 1950s.
Cristina: 1950S, that's when all that weird stuff was going.
Jack: That's when all the weird s*** was going down. Of course, for reference, I've got the timeline right up here, so we can focus on the things that happened around the 1950s. So leading into it, in 1950, 1952 specifically, was the first reports of the satanic rituals that were happening. 1955 is when the investigations were demanded by the mayor. Previous to that, 1939 was when the sketchy deal took place. So these are the events surrounding the formation of Paradise Road. Not Paradise Road, of the neighborhood of Paradise.
Cristina: Yeah, but who are those people? Where did they come from? Are they part of these cults? Are they part of the water park, whatever they're called?
Jack: Yeah, weird. Weird. Now, paradise formed in the early 1950s and is composed of residents with a tight knit generational like lineage, so that their families today, the people who live there today, they're related, have been primarily related. So this house belonged to my dad, that belonged to my grandma, and I've lived in this neighborhood always. People don't move in, people just live there.
Cristina: Strange.
Jack: People move out. Nobody moves in.
Cristina: But how did they get there? How did they get there? How?
Jack: At some point in the 1950s, they went in there.
Cristina: I know, but like, strange, strange.
Jack: So another weird part is that many of the residents have like lived there their entire lives. So they were born there and they just stay there until the day they die.
Cristina: But I wonder, like, where do they work? They're not there all day.
Jack: It's gonna get weird in a way that's gonna make it look that way. The entire surrounding area is covered by thick foliage, overgrown nature and unmaintained woods, as we've seen, making it impossible to see from any direction, even from on top. To locate through the dirt road, AKA Mystery Road and even access through Paradise Road. It's just invisible unless you know it's there. Yeah, the privacy of that is absurd.
Cristina: That is crazy.
Jack: It's just right there in the middle of New Jersey, invisible to the rest of the world.
Cristina: It's a mystery that you stumbled upon by mere chance.
Jack: Now, weird time based detail. The houses in paradise have extremely old designs, often appearing to be dated to the late 1800s design styles, with exception for a few that could be dated maybe to the 90s at the. At the latest.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So the late 1800s. Many of them look like they were built around that time. But that makes no sense considering the 1950s is when this neighborhood formed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: With the most modern structures appearing to have been the designs of the 90s.
Cristina: That is weird, too. Like, why would they be.
Jack: So in the past 30 years, no advancement in the structures, which would make sense if you don't want to expand in the houses that are there. Just the houses that are there from now on, but still kind of chooses.
Cristina: To go back like that. Like 1800s.
Jack: Weird. Right.
Cristina: You're in the 1950s. You're not making 1950 styles or whatever is the end style.
Jack: Like, there are some houses that appear to be that, but the oldest structures appear to have a late 1800s kind of aesthetic.
Cristina: Weird.
Jack: Very strange. When we look at public records for this. Right. There is very few period that address the neighborhood of paradise specifically. There's no media mentions. There's no public events ever hosted, and there's no historical records. Private, private, private, private. It's also unclear whether all the residents of the neighborhood are American citizens or if they were just born and never registered. It's unknown how many people actually live in that neighborhood. Because people could have legitimately been born there, never registered, and they could just go to stores locally and stuff, and there'd be no reason for them to ever go into a hospital and, hey, I exist.
Cristina: That is. I don't know what.
Jack: And because we know people don't enter the neighborhood to audit.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because nobody enters the neighborhood. It's unclear how many people actually live there.
Cristina: But it can't be many. Or can it be many?
Jack: Like 50 houses? If we assume three people per house. You got a lot of people already. That's 150 people.
Cristina: People move out, but people don't move in.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Is that true?
Jack: I don't know. We say multiple generations of people.
Cristina: Oh, yeah. They could just move into other homes that were abandoned.
Jack: No, abandoned home is if they just keep multiplying. We can't just assume extended families live in single houses.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So my grandma lives in the basement. My dad lives on the next floor. I got five kids myself. We all just overpopulated.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Weird.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That's very strange that it's unclear how many people live there. It's theorized that many of the residents have been born and raised within the neighborhood of paradise and have not registered at a local hospital or city hall.
Cristina: But they don't, like, go to school either. Or at least unknown.
Jack: Maybe they have their own schooling, homeschooling. That could happen.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it basically just results in an impossible calculation. You can't tell how many people actually live in there. And I Have no say about this next part. But this has been claimed by people who have ventured through, which is that the residents aren't too kind to outsiders.
Cristina: But you didn't see anyone, so you wouldn't know.
Jack: I saw zero people.
Cristina: Except for the laughing.
Jack: Laughing that was on the way there. That was on Mystery Road.
Cristina: Oh, it could have been the people.
Jack: 100%. I saw nobody, though.
Cristina: That is strange.
Jack: We saw no one the whole time we were there. Not a soul.
Cristina: Well, people have seen people and they're just normal, un friendly people.
Jack: Unfriendly people say hi, they'll ignore people. That kind of stuff.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Now, the neighborhood is incredibly self sufficient. One of the stranger aspects of it is that it being purely residential. But rarely is anybody seen. Rarely. In fact, most of the claims of there being anybody weren't even about inside the neighborhood. It was from the few times that people have been seen leaving the neighborhood.
Cristina: Oh, my God. So no one goes in or if they have.
Jack: Nobody has seen anybody go in. People have only seen people come out and when they. Hey, can you tell me about the ignored? Hey, I'm kind of lost. Can you. Ignored.
Cristina: What is strange? People like their family. They're just. It sounds like, I guess what people picture, like hillbillies.
Jack: Yes, yes. It's very, very that. It feels like very like off in my area. But if you rarely see people coming in or out, where's the food coming from? Again, you'd assume they're going to the local stores. But nobody's seeing anybody coming in and out.
Cristina: No, but they're surrounded by woods.
Jack: They're surrounded by wood. Do you think they're hunting? I mean, I guess yes.
Cristina: They sound like those type of people. They sound like, yeah, they just live off the land and they live together as a close knit family.
Jack: Definitely has that vibe. Additionally, at the southern edge of the neighborhood, there is a barn.
Cristina: There is a barn.
Jack: So they could be growing their own food.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And hunting for the rest of it and growing the rest in the woods.
Cristina: They have seen people leaving.
Jack: They have seen people leaving. Nobody has ever seen somebody going in shopping. They could be shopping. Hundred percent. And if that's such a small number of people, then one person with a pickup can fill the pickup up with enough groceries, go in and not have to come out for a while. Mm, Totally solvable problem. But the barn would also fix it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the fact that they're surrounded by so much thick foliage and woods will also fix it. They could just grow things in the woods. And that also means you could Just hunt the deer and hunt or whatever that's in there.
Cristina: Yeah. We can't even check if any of these guys have a job or anything possible. Yeah.
Jack: We know nothing about them. Right there in the middle.
Cristina: Just hidden. They're all just hidden.
Jack: Just hidden. Weird.
Cristina: That is very strange what is happening.
Jack: There now while the southern edge of the neighborhood has the barn, it gets weirder because it appears that there's a city hall like structure to the northern edge. City hall, they have a meeting point where there's governance or it would seem interesting.
Cristina: So they don't have. If they do have jobs there. No one really knows.
Jack: Nobody really knows.
Cristina: They might just have like a little society there.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: They're policing their streets, they're nursing their people there.
Jack: It could all just be. It's consistently described by outsiders as a self sustained and self efficient neighborhood. They don't require the outside world. Very odd. Now what's weirder about this is that you are in one of the most spoken of places in the entire country, yet you yourself are unknown. The castle. Everybody knows about the mines. Everybody knows about the road. Everybody knows about the lake. Everybody knows about. You're surrounded by all this s*** and nobody knows about you. That's the weirdest part about this.
Cristina: That is so weird. But they're so hidden. They're so hidden.
Jack: They are so. But this many people coming through all the time, you would think a lot of people go through that road. So why don't people going through that road consistently find Mystery Road and just explore? There should just be so many cases of, you know, people trying to scare each other or in the daylight, truly exploring. Let's go in the morning so we have the most amount of time before nightfall and we can truly get a look at everything out here.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That would mean there's only three roads all of Clinton, top to bottom, 10 miles, no lights, no turns. That's one straight shot. You explored that. It took you no time.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Then you got the one turn into Paradise Road and you could travel all of Paradise Road. It would take you all of 10 minutes. And then in that time, how many people would find Mystery Road? It would be a f****** clusterfuck of people consistently finding Mystery Road and exploring that side too.
Cristina: Well, they only go there at night, so maybe it's harder to see.
Jack: I'm sure people go there in the daylight.
Cristina: I know, but just not the same number.
Jack: No, not the same number, but probably a s*** storm of people still. A f*** ton of people probably still go there during the daylight because they're too scared to go there at night. Okay, so where are these excessive numbers of stories? We have so few mentions, there's almost nothing on it. I checked everything.
Cristina: Like how do you keep people. But they're so hidden. They're so well hidden.
Jack: You'd find the road if you're navigating. If you just decided the complete driving on Paradise Road, you would find Mystery Road. Presumably. Unless it's so invisible that you don't even realize it exists. Driving right by it. But we found it.
Cristina: Yes, he found it. I don't know. That's a. That's a mystery itself. I don't know.
Jack: Well, I'll give you the next weird part. Mystery Road people have only ever seen people leaving it at night. Every single report was about night. Nobody has ever even reported seeing Mystery Road in the daytime.
Cristina: So you think Mystery Road doesn't exist in the daytime? I don't know.
Jack: I don't know. It's just. That's a really weird detail. Yeah, because now we're at a category I just called the Fringe.
Cristina: It's.
Jack: These are reports from non residential people that are.
Cristina: That stumble upon Mystery Road.
Jack: To stumble upon Mystery Road. Nobody has ever reported seeing something and it be daylight.
Cristina: It's at night.
Jack: They've only seen people leaving the road at night. If they are seeing the road during the daylight, they're just ignoring it because they don't see anybody coming in around.
Cristina: That could be. That could be.
Jack: Could totally be. But all the mentions of somebody coming out happen at night.
Cristina: Why just that night.
Jack: And nobody claims they've seen anybody go in.
Cristina: And you were there at night and.
Jack: I was there at night. Stumbled by accident onto Mystery Road. It was so obviously there.
Cristina: But you didn't stumble upon anyone. I mean, you did, but not on.
Jack: Not on Mystery Road. It wasn't even Paradise.
Cristina: Paradise. Maybe he came from that place.
Jack: Well, the. A consistent mention on Paradise Road. I didn't experience this and I didn't even know this was happening until I found it. Is that robed and cloaked men have been seen not coming in or out, but wandering around Mystery Road. Like the entrance of Paradise Road to Mystery Road, but also only at night. Which would see exactly what I saw on Clinton Road.
Cristina: They have to live there. They live there. It's a town of cults.
Jack: It sounds like a cult right off the bat.
Cristina: There's a cult lives inside the woods.
Jack: Yeah, checks out. Reminds me of. What was that movie? The movie. Just like that. Whatever. Some movie about them people living in the woods. Hate enough I mean, there's probably crap ton of societies like that too. Just f*** society.
Cristina: We just gotta come over here. That's crazy.
Jack: Weird. But that also explains them being not friendly. Because it's like, you don't belong here. You're in the wrong part of the woods, kid.
Cristina: That guy that you saw, he wasn't like. It wasn't like he was unfriendly. He didn't even like seem to know you existed or did he respond to you?
Jack: Did not acknowledge that we were even present. Didn't look in our direction, no nothing. He kept moving like we weren't there.
Cristina: I mean, that could be seen as unfriendly to other people. Like, it could be that they see something, some guy, and the guy does.
Jack: You know, ignores their existence.
Cristina: Yeah. And then they're like, oh, he's unfriendly.
Jack: It could totally be.
Cristina: It could totally be something like that.
Jack: Some of the reports are that they're just asking for directions and the people completely ignore them. But then this, this has a very, very reminiscent thing to it. What if they literally can't see you? What if they literally have no idea you're there and that's why they're ignoring you?
Cristina: What is that? Would that mean they come from a different time? The houses are 1800s.
Jack: There's something weird.
Cristina: There's something weird happening there.
Jack: Weird. Weird.
Cristina: This has to do with time travel. I don't know what is happening, but.
Jack: If it's time travel, they can still see you. They're just coming from a different time. You go in and you're somewhere else.
Cristina: But like a time bubble, you're seeing into the past.
Jack: Why can you walk where they are? You shouldn't be able to. You would just cross through. Every time bubble is like that. You just cross through. You're on the other side now. Usually they're in weird positions that you'd have to specifically navigate through. But we're talking. You've seen people come out and then you go in that same direction.
Cristina: Nothing happens.
Jack: Nothing happens. Weird.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: Now, other reports by people. The roads in the neighborhood. People have gone into paradise. Neighborhood. The roads and homes seem to change positions. I saw the roads change positions. I think our panic didn't allow us to pay attention to the houses. These people have claimed they've seen the same house twice. Driving in a straight line. Identical.
Cristina: Spooky. That's very spooky.
Jack: Yes. That the houses change consistently.
Cristina: The town is haunted. What is happening? It's not a real town or it's a real town. I don't know.
Jack: I don't know. And people have claimed to this site. Can I can definitely speak to this one. People have claimed to have found themselves trapped, driving in circles, unable to find the access road, AKA Mystery Road. Sometimes for several hours. In this small area. Yeah.
Cristina: That is. That is so scary. For some hours.
Jack: Hours. Trying to find the access road. Panicking. Not knowing. And what the f***. It was there the whole time. Maybe it wasn't.
Cristina: Maybe it wasn't. How is the whole place moving? Is it really there? But it looks like it's there. I don't know. And there's people. But are those people really there? They're not even.
Jack: Next point. Nobody who's entered the town has ever seen a person in it. Nobody has ever reported seeing a person after they've gone through Mystery Road into the neighborhood. They've never once seen anyone. Ever. No one has ever seen anybody in paradise.
Cristina: It's a ghost town. It's a ghost town. Maybe. I don't know. No. No. Yes. Maybe. I don't know.
Jack: That's so strange. Nobody has ever seen anyone ever.
Cristina: Never. Never outside of it.
Jack: Just outside of it.
Cristina: And those people don't even see you.
Jack: Those people ignore you like you don't exist.
Cristina: And they're dressed so old fashioned and they sometimes fashion home.
Jack: No. Some people come out in pickups and they'll just ignore you. But they have seen roped people not going in or out. The people they've seen coming out, just normal looking people who are ignoring the out of you. The people hanging around the outside who aren't coming in or out. Robed and cloaked individuals.
Cristina: What is happening? Okay. There was a guy in the pickup though.
Jack: Yeah. They've seen cars come out. People have asked for directions. No response. They'll just ignore you.
Cristina: What?
Jack: They won't even acknowledge that they're there.
Cristina: Just so it's not a ghost town or is it a ghost town? I don't know. Why is it moving around?
Jack: Which I can talk to the roads moving around. I. We did not. We were too young and too panicked after everything. After we lost Mystery Road.
Cristina: Yeah. You didn't even notice if any move. If any homes moved. You would not notice.
Jack: Crap. I can tell you for a fact Mystery Road moved.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because we saw it on the other side of the town.
Cristina: And even though you don't see people in the town, the lights are off. Like there's no lights. There's street lights. At least.
Jack: We saw no light. I remember that so specifically. The only lights we saw the Entire were coming from the car's headlights. Everything we saw was shined through that. Not a single light. That's also another note. Nobody has ever seen lights or electricity or anything. Nothing. Always dark. Only your car lights shine it. It's almost exactly like Clinton Road. Not one light.
Cristina: I don't know then this might be like that. The castle where people just go to do rituals or whatever.
Jack: Except the houses don't look worn down. Everything is maintained.
Cristina: There's paved roads, but no one's there.
Jack: But nobody has ever seen a single person in the neighborhood.
Cristina: Is it just for show what is happening?
Jack: But that's crazy. Nobody has seen a single person ever. I found that so strange. You've seen people come out, but you've never seen one soul inside.
Cristina: That is very strange. What's happening? Is it. I don't know if it's ghost related or not. Is.
Jack: I don't know either. I just like reading about this and really doing some research on this. The. The visual of Mystery Road just vanishing is so clear to me. Straight line. We do a 180 drive right back where we came from. The road isn't there. We take a right because there's nowhere else to go. The road just kind of. We were on the. There was only woods to one side and the houses to the other side. So you turn around. Now the woods are to your right. And eventually you hit the point where you have to take a right.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then we're wandering maybe 10 minutes. And nowhere where we came in through do we find Mystery Road. Total opposite side. I would argue it's literally across. Not even in front or to the side of it. It was literally across. If we came in through Paradise Road to the bottom, this road would have in theory been facing Clinton Road. Except we took it and came out back to paradise.
Cristina: Who made this? What is this? It's a maze in the woods. It's huge. It's a huge maze.
Jack: Less than 50,000. It's not even a huge maze. It's tiny. It's just impossible to navigate.
Cristina: Yeah. How does it do what it it's doing? What's the explanation to that?
Jack: It is very complicated. I don't know what the h*** is happening. I have no. Definitely worth. It was worth looking at this because of what the h***.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Now all of that. And it's not even the weirdest part. None of that. None of that is the weirdest part. The fringe category is not the category that comes next called the strangest. So the weirdest part of Paradise Road is None of the above mentioned, but rather the one most striking important coincidence. At the very center of the neighborhood, there's a church. In the center, at the very center of the neighborhood, there's a church.
Cristina: That church is a portal. I don't know what's happening.
Jack: Oh, and the church appears to be at the center. Regardless of how you travel it, of how you travel it or what, shift or whatever, it doesn't matter how anything else changes.
Cristina: Mayhem should go in that church. Did you see it? Do you remember church?
Jack: I do not remember seeing the church. I don't remember paying too much attention to the structures at all. Yeah, we were in a state of panic. We were just trying to scare each other and having fun until the road vanished. And then it was like, oh, f***. And then the car stopped turning on at that moment too. We panicked for a moment, tried to turn it on. The car didn't turn on. Then it finally did after a couple of moments of messing with it. And it's a car that's in perfect condition always. And that's never happened before.
Cristina: Yeah. So what's the description of the church, though?
Jack: The church, it appears to be a late 1800s design. The church has zero windows and zero entrances other than the front entrance. So you cannot see into it, you cannot see lights, you cannot see anything. There's no way to look inside. Triangular roof, boxy shape, and a front pillar with a cross. The end. Yeah, very old school. Nothing else going on.
Cristina: I don't know. This place doesn't sound real. It feels like it's a staged. A staged thing, like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like people really live there. It's just for show.
Jack: So who the h*** is coming out? Why are there people who look like they live there coming out?
Cristina: Hmm?
Jack: Who are these weirdos hanging around the entrance?
Cristina: Well, we don't know if they live there. It doesn't seem like anyone lives there. If they're. They're going there for something, I don't think it's for living there. I don't think anyone lives there.
Jack: Weird, right?
Cristina: It's for sure to hide whatever they're actually doing there. Whatever that's used for, there's something that's being used for.
Jack: Most people have never seen the church, though. Really? Some people have. Most people haven't. People who've been there. The majority of them have never seen it. I'm among the people who've never seen it.
Cristina: Yes, but everyone that has, it's been in the same exact.
Jack: Presumably the people who've been lost there for hours.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because it's really f****** difficult to get to the center if everything is continuously changing and throwing you back out to the edges.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: If everything is always throwing you to the edges, getting to the center must be so f****** complicated. And like we saw in Google Maps, it's not even that big. A couple of houses, maybe. How the h*** can you find it so difficult to get to the middle?
Cristina: I don't know. That's strange.
Jack: The changing and shifting keeps spitting you out, always to the edge.
Cristina: It doesn't want you to get there.
Jack: They just want you to reach it. And a few people who have have no idea to know what the h***'s inside. It's just a church. An old abandoned church. Except the church, by the accounts of the people who've seen it, is the most kept. Well location in the entire neighborhood. It looks old, but it has the freshest paint job. The land around it is the most clean.
Cristina: So most likely that's the important thing. That's what people are. The people that know, the people that actually travel there. That's where they're going. Going to that church. They're dressed like it. It makes sense. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah. It's the best maintained structure. And its design is the oldest. Simultaneously and additionally. Additionally. Nobody has ever seen the road during the daytime. Mystery Road. Which means nobody has ever driven through Paradise Road. I mean, paradise neighborhood during the daytime. Nobody's ever navigated the town during the day, which means they've only ever seen the church at night.
Cristina: Yeah. Which mean it could be they. Those people could be using it at the daytime when no one's there.
Jack: Nobody can get there.
Cristina: No one can get there.
Jack: The neighborhood is just inaccessible. But then what the h*** happens to Mystery Road? It should be more visible during the day. Mystery Road should be most visible during the day. I don't know.
Cristina: That's weird. It's a lot of witchy stuff. I don't know yet.
Jack: Nobody has ever seen the road during the day. They've only ever seen the road at night, which means they've only ever seen people come out of it at night, which means they've only ever driven at night. And people have only ever been in paradise at night. Nobody has ever driven in paradise during the daytime. Nobody has any idea what that would look like.
Cristina: That's probably where things happen. Is probably during the daytime.
Jack: Weird, man.
Cristina: And like, we're. We. There's no. It's impossible to know, though. Unless we go.
Jack: We gotta go there personally. Go and we would have to go during the day.
Cristina: But then who knows? Maybe it will be missing.
Jack: There will be nothing, we'll see nothing. We'll go there and have wasted our time because there's nothing. Which means we have to go at night. That would be the only way. But honestly, that's the time I would want to go there at least. Yeah, we need a big group of people. Cameras and everything. Record every moment of it. 20 people. We're all going. Caravan of cars.
Cristina: Yes. We gotta go into that church. What's happening in that church? Yeah, people in robes. Obviously the church is being used for something, right?
Jack: Yeah, that. Total. Total connection. Total connection. People in robes. The church being the most maintained upkept place. But the houses are well kept too.
Cristina: There's no lights anywhere. There's no lights anywhere. But there's no lights on the church here.
Jack: There's no lights on the church either. There's no lights anywhere. Zero seeming electricity. Yeah, but again, some of the houses look like they were built in the 90s. Electricity definitely happened. No power lines.
Cristina: I don't know. But I don't think that's a real town. I don't think it's a family generated generations of family living there. I think it's the generations of cult leaders living there.
Jack: You think the whole neighborhood is of cults? Is of one cult. Yeah, but that would mean they live there.
Cristina: I don't. I don't know. I don't think they live there.
Jack: So what the h*** would be the point of building these houses?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: Especially if nobody can enter.
Cristina: I don't know. The whole thing is very strange.
Jack: It's really weird.
Cristina: It's really weird. Do they live there? Because like no one's. There's no proof that they do live there.
Jack: There's no proof that anybody has ever been there other than the people driving through.
Cristina: Yeah. We just know that we see cult members all over everywhere else around this spot. Yes, everywhere.
Jack: Everywhere. Even completely off of Paradise Road. That's where I saw it.
Cristina: Clinton Road is covered. The whole woods area is covered. The castle is covered. Like where are they not?
Jack: My bet would be they actually do live there. Whatever cult performs rituals at the castle lives in Paradise. I think paradise is the residential area for the cult, for the people who do whatever in that whole thing. And I would argue that so is the entrance to what's left of the castle. And it's probably in that church.
Cristina: Is this what Silent Hill is based on?
Jack: I don't know. But I bet the entrance to the castles to not even the castle.
Cristina: To the mines, to the mine.
Jack: The secret entrance to the mines is probably in that church. I bet that it's there. If it's not there, it's in a random indescript location. And they are the only ones who know exactly where it is. Probably a manhole cover in the middle of nowhere, covered by leaves. And you gotta like know exactly where it is to even find it.
Cristina: But it's as possible that it's in the town.
Jack: It's as possible that it's right there and that that's why it's the hardest thing to find. People can't even get to the church. Nine times out of ten just wandering lost. People don't even see a church. I never saw a church. There's a s***. We were lost for like 10 minutes. That town is not a 10 minute drive. But we never saw the center of that town. I know we tried to go through the center of the town. I guess we never really noticed that we never got to the center of the town. Now thinking in hindsight, how the h*** were we always on the edge of the town? That's weird. I never thought about that. We were always on the edge of the town and we took turns in every direction but we were always at the edge of the town. Even driving in, we would just come out to the other edge. I guess. It just obviously such a small town. You don't question it. You're just like, oh yeah, obviously I just got to the other side already. But I never saw a church. And I would have sworn to you I went through the center of the town.
Cristina: I wonder. Like there must be a secret path to get there then.
Jack: Like a combination of roads.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And that all the other roads essentially just kind of fling you around it so you don't ever mm. Get there.
Cristina: Yeah. Like if you try to not get to the center, I bet you're more likely to find the center or something.
Jack: There's probably exactly one turn you would take that would then take you to a series of other ones. And you got to take exactly one of those turns because they would spit you out. And then again you have to take specifically one other turn. So just a series of only this one, only that one. And they would take you there. Which means people have found it by total accident.
Cristina: Yes. Which is has to be the case. Yeah.
Jack: And then the structure of the houses have been intentionally built to be identical to one another to be extra confusing so that you don't know where you are at any given Moment because you're not familiar with the town.
Cristina: That's true. Like you could be looking. People think they're seeing that same house again. But it could just be that whoever made that town made it really identical. Yeah.
Jack: It's meant to confuse you as you're going through it.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So, man, did I just pass and it's the same number. Maybe not. Maybe it's literally just. I mean, it's literally the same number, but it's not the same house. It was just meant to look that way to f*** with your head.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. That makes way more sense. It's not a ghost town. It's not. It's. There's a reason. It's an actual maze.
Jack: It's an actual maze. And if that's the case, in the center is either the entrance to the mines, the real entrance to the mines. Which means the people from this town can actually sneak into anyone's house through the underground tunnels. All the other five towns are at the mercy of this one neighborhood. Or it's not that. And this is a literal maze designed as a channeling location. And that church is as we would call the entrance.
Cristina: It could be both. Like, it's so weird. It's so weird that I can imagine that it's both.
Jack: Could totally be. It could totally. Like the top floor has the, quote, entrance to coming into the church. And the. Somewhere, you know, you go down a couple of stairs, a spiral staircase or some nonsense. And you get to the entrance to the mines.
Cristina: Yes. He's like, why were they hanging out that church? It's. It's because that's. They know about that. The mines. I think they know about the mines. I don't think it was about the church at all.
Jack: It's probably the people who've controlled the mines this entire time. Which means they would have. It's not just the neighborhood. It's the entire network of tunnels underneath and not just the entire net. Who knows how much other crap exists underground. We've had 70 years to continue excavating and building homes underground and building other things on top of the fact that we know about the one that is underneath where the castle was particularly large. Entire chambers. Rooms bigger than the neighborhood itself. The entire grounds underneath the castle are bigger than the neighborhood itself. So you could fit everybody who lives in the neighborhood. Assuming this is the case, you could have 20 times the amount of people that could live in the neighborhood living underground.
Cristina: Very strange. Very strange. What is this cult doing? Whoa.
Jack: Unless they're not even living underground. There's Way more complicated crap happening down there. We do have Clinton Road being the most supernatural place on planet Earth. There's nothing more supernatural.
Cristina: Paradise is more supernatural. And it's such a secret that we wouldn't even know.
Jack: We wouldn't even know. No stories, no nothing. Can't even find it.
Cristina: Yeah. What's happening? How does Mystery Road. Mystery Road, not a road. I don't know.
Jack: Mystery Road doesn't exist. Paradise has no people.
Cristina: But they're all connected. It's all connected.
Jack: It's all one thing somehow.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I couldn't tell you how. There's not enough information. But it's all one thing somehow.
Cristina: I wish we could learn something about this cult. There's no name on it. No guesses.
Jack: Nope. People have no idea. The closest they got was referring to them as Druids.
Cristina: Druids.
Jack: And then changing that name to satanic cults.
Cristina: Okay. And the kkk.
Jack: And the kkk. All of that. Yeah. That's which. None of the above. The closest would be the Druids.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If anything, Druids is what we'll call them because of how weird this is. The KKK doesn't have powers, bro.
Cristina: The h*** out of here.
Jack: Unless. The original purpose of the KKK was in order to create stones. Which would make sense of the sacrifices.
Cristina: Well, now we gotta go look into the kkk, I guess. I don't know. See the history.
Jack: That's all I got. That's all I managed to find about the town. I will call it.
Cristina: It's the town.
Jack: Neighborhood Town is why I was calling it Neighborhood Town. It totally checks out.
Cristina: Right?
Jack: The neighborhood town called Paradise.
Cristina: It's a mystery itself. It's a mystery. A mystery road leads to a mysterious town.
Jack: And the mysterious town is a maze in itself that nobody has ever been seen inside. Ever. Nobody has ever seen somebody in there at least seen it and reported it?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: If they have, they never talked about it. Which tells us way more information. You saw it and never talked about it. Where are you then? Did you see somebody and then never made it out?
Cristina: Yes. That would be the other option.
Jack: That'll be the other option. Maybe you have seen people, which we.
Cristina: Know many people disappear.
Jack: Many people disappear. Many hundreds.
Cristina: Is this part of what's going on with that?
Jack: It's 100%. It's possible that every single person that went missing along Clinton Road actually went there. It's absolutely possible that's the case. Every single person that went missing found this road and never came out.
Cristina: They saw something they weren't supposed to.
Jack: See or someone, I guess don't find it during the daytime, buddy. That seems to be the case. If you see somebody there, you're. That could be the case.
Cristina: That could be. They don't do anything outside. They don't do anything.
Jack: I saw. Dude, just ignore me. Just ignore all of us.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Didn't react, didn't respond. No, nothing. We just weren't there to him.
Cristina: And he was hunting. Which fits. If they're all just living in.
Jack: Because of the deer.
Cristina: Yeah. That just goes with the whole. They're living there. They just live there.
Jack: Self sustained.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: Interesting. But that's all I got. That's all I got. That's all it is. Weird. Strange. Oddest place ever. Definitely fits the character of every weird other that's going on there. And definitely seems to be at least related to the center of what's happening.
Cristina: Yes. These entrances, they're all. They all have this whatever mystery thing going on. This mazes and puzzles and something patterns. All of it just very similar looking.
Jack: All three instances. The mansion, the labyrinth and the town.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: All the complicated maze that could throw you anywhere and are all impossible to navigate and all have the entrance at the center.
Cristina: Yeah. If you have a far away. They look completely different but you zoom in, it's the same thing.
Jack: And on Google Maps we can clearly see a circular formation. We can see the very little bit.
Cristina: Of roof tips of the roots or something.
Jack: Yeah. Through the trees, it's very little. And then the big one in the.
Cristina: Middle, which is probably the church.
Jack: It's probably a church. Weird.
Cristina: Weird.
Jack: Anyways, anybody who has any kind of information related to this, please either the.
Cristina: Mystery Road or Paradise Road.
Jack: Mystery Road. Paradise Road or Paradise, the neighborhood town. If you have any information on any of this, please feel free to contact us and tell us about it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If you live there and all of this is bullshit and the Internet is making it up. Yes, reach out. Tell us about your neighborhood. Yeah, tell us about your neighborhood. We're curious and yeah, you could do that on our socials. That's at just convopad. On Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook, on TikTok.
Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth is a really overpowered thing and if you want. If maybe you know people who are into this and can inform us, tell that person to listen.
Cristina: Yes. And hopefully they'll hear us asking them to contact us. And they'll contact us. Who knows? Yes, contact us, please.
Jack: Yes, tell us.
Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. S.A. good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister, with social media managed by Amber Black.