Rambling 283: The Lady in White
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Who is the Lady in White? How did she get to Clinton Road? What is her Purpose there? The duo investigate the famous Lady in White story in an attempt to better understand the Spacetime Distortions detected at Clinton Road. Arguably the most frequently mentioned paranormal being of all time.
+Episode Details
Who is the Lady in White? How did she get to Clinton Road? What is her Purpose there? The duo investigate the famous Lady in White story in an attempt to better understand the Spacetime Distortions detected at Clinton Road. Arguably the most frequently mentioned paranormal being of all time.
Topics Discussed:
- Lady In White
- Hitchhikers
- Satanic Rituals
- Echoes
- Scientists
- Escaped Experiments
- The Shadow Realm
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is a show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. Ideas. And look, man, we've. We've been on a road where we learned a lot of information, and we taken.
Cristina: We've been on two roads.
Jack: Yeah, we done took. We done. Yeah, for real, for real. We done took that information, and now we're applying it to the world to try to investigate, using our. Investigate. Because we were kind of stuck over there for a while. So now we're trying to investigate other. With the knowledge we got from our investigations, right? And we decided to go into, like, a weird place where it was clear that something was wrong.
Cristina: We looked.
Jack: We investigated some other places, but we came to, like, the logical one, which is Clinton Road. Now, what we were looking for was initially electrical magnetic distortions, cold spots. We were looking for that. Converging with stories. We were looking for weird anomalies, time anomalies, electrical magnetic fields, anything weird that has happened in any magnitude whatsoever.
Cristina: See?
Jack: And we went through a couple of places, and we land. So one of them was Stonehenge. Right. And we checked out the. What was it? Ranch.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it made sense. It made sense. And then we landed here, and now we're looking at Clinton Road, which is a logical place. Now, in going through Clinton Road, there were many stories. We broke that into three episodes because it was too much. So in those three episodes, we went down the tremendous amount of things that exist, and the goal was essentially to unpack a lot of those things individually. But after we went down a quick kind of draft, right. Which we did, and then we highlighted the ones we thought were meaningful out of the ones we thought we weren't. And then we just talked about quickly the ones we know factually were meaningful.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Just to catch everybody up now, I went ahead and I looked into some of these things, and the point was to dive into these individually and to dissect them. But that immediately became problematic, as all things always become problematic. But it's hard to explain exactly how it's problematic. What. So I think I'm gonna show you how it's problematic instead by telling you what it is. And it's just kind of gonna make sense, and then I'll directly tell you afterwards. Anyway.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So I. I called this part of this problem one.
Cristina: That's what he called it.
Jack: Yeah. I'm gonna give you police reports. Just summarize. This isn't the actual word for words. This is. You paraphrase summarize about actual real world police reports from the road, from Clinton Road.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So this first one happens roadside. Somewhere along the road, a man calls the local police, reporting a woman in a white dress walking barefoot, disoriented, on the road near the lake. The man reported that he continued driving because he didn't know if she could be, you know, a danger to him and his girlfriend who were in the car. When the officer asked, can he describe anything about her? He looked back and she was gone.
Cristina: I don't understand.
Jack: Like, this is a literal, actual report of. Oh, I don't know what happened. Then the cop came that there was nobody. The people weren't there.
Cristina: Oh, like, it just had. It just happened. And then the cop showed up.
Jack: No, he called the cop.
Cristina: Oh, so he was calling him while it happened.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes. This is recent. This is very recent. These are recent. These are on cell phones.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: This is self. These are recorded.
Cristina: Calling the cop.
Jack: Yeah. He calls a cop about this.
Cristina: He sees this lady.
Jack: Yeah. He's like, there's something weird going on. I don't know if you want to check it out or whatever. The. About this lady in the woods. Yeah. Now, again, this doesn't mean anything yet. It's as we go through this that the problem arises. This next scenario, again, all police reports so far happens near Cross Castle. On the other side, local police receive a call. A woman wandering by Cross Castle in a large white raincoat or a nightgown. Raincoat or a nightgown. Okay. The report claims the caller thought she was living at Cross Castle. So essentially a squatter.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: And when the caller approached, she vanished. He suspected she ran into the surrounding woods or behind a tree or something. And he also reported that he thought the squatter was a schizophrenic of some sort because he continued to hear whispers as he was looking for her.
Cristina: Horrified. Okay.
Jack: Very rational man, though. Every step of his report was.
Cristina: I don't know how he made it past. Like, she disappeared. Okay. I'm gonna still investigate, even though I hear all this whispering, like, okay, I predict white guy. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Jack: Okay. The reservoir. This is by the lake. Local police report that they received a call from a woman seemingly considered a call of a woman. I apologize. A call of a woman seemingly considering suicide by the lake. She was standing by the water's edge to the person who saw her looking like she was, you know, considering hopping in by their interpretation of the scenario. She was standing in front of the water, kind of like just looking at the water for a really long time. And he got concerned.
Cristina: That's a tough one to imagine. Yeah.
Jack: I don't know. You can just call on a person like that. It's crazy. Okay. When asked by the officer to get the woman's attention, the caller yells out to her and she turns to him, then seemingly vanishes before his eyes.
Cristina: What is she wearing?
Jack: Local police report received a woman considering. No, not. No specifics.
Cristina: Oh, no.
Jack: White caller claimed something was weird about her face before she vanished. Unclear. And then this is by a really tight curve called Dead man's Curve on Clinton Road. The report is of a woman standing close the curb, either threatening to jump in front of a car or scaring cars. Driver report, car ahead and car behind. Were swerving to dodge her. And she was in a white trench coat or something similar. He didn't know where she ran off to. When he'd finished dodging her, she'd run away or hidden before scaring the car a few seconds behind.
Cristina: How many cars was involved in that one?
Jack: You must have been in line, like three or four cars coming through.
Cristina: Interesting. Okay.
Jack: Okay. These are random, just police reports. You kind of get the theme going on.
Cristina: Yes, lady.
Jack: Yeah. Ladies tend to be in some kind of white something.
Cristina: Yeah, we're trying to attempt suicide for some reason.
Jack: So I'm going to tell you four different stories that aren't those stories.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And we're gonna quickly discuss that. Okay, so we're gonna start with the obvious one, the lady in white. This lady is known as a lady who roams around the lake. There's basically, you know, the myths of the area.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: She roams around the woods, the road, the lake itself, and is described as looking for something dressed in a white gown or robe, coat or dress of some sort, sad or expressionless. And the lady in white is seen the most often. That's important.
Cristina: These are all different. Ladies. Question mark.
Jack: Question mark indeed. Woman in the gown. A woman in the ground by. In a gown by Cross Castle or the ruins thereof. Only ever reported following KKK gatherings or late 1960s occult rituals. Now, this is where it gets interesting for me because do you. Do you get. Do you follow? Is my thought right? Young girl in a dress reported by the bridge and roadside. Seen often with the kid by the bridge tossing the coins. Seen less often in modern day, but more often in the past.
Cristina: But there's nothing about her.
Jack: No details.
Jack: Hitchhiker or damsel in distress. Always seen roadside. Always trying to catch the attention of a driver while asking for help. Seen way less often now, way more often in the past. Oh man. Okay, so what do you think so far? Let's unpack some of this information. What do you think so far?
Cristina: It's hard to tell if they're like just ghosts. Are these echoes? Cuz like I don't know if they're doing the same thing over and over or what's happening really the big problem, right?
Jack: What the f*** is going on? Because they seem to be a bunch of different instances that aren't the same. One in a loop.
Cristina: And if it's just one lady and she's all these people, then what's that about? I guess that's also another option. But like I don't feel like it is one per.
Jack: Why not?
Cristina: Because sometimes it's a girl, sometimes it's older. Like the age ranges feels different from how they're describing this person. It could be they do.
Jack: They do. But I'll go over some of this again. A hundred percent they do. A hundred percent they do. But I noted something from this very idea. Right. So I'm gonna go over this one again. Lady in white roams the area around the lake, the woods and the road. Described as looking for something. See dress in a white gown, robe, coat or dress of some sort. Sad or expressionless. And this one is seen the most often in modern day. She's the most seen currently. She was less seen in the past. Important. The woman in the gown. The woman in the ground in the gown by Cross Castle. How did I mess that up in the same spot by Cross Castle or the ruins thereof. Only ever reported following the KKK gatherings in the 1960s.
Cristina: What about the one with the boy? The girl that's hanging out with the boy, what is that?
Jack: The young girl in a dress reported by the bridge and roadside. Seen often with the kid by the bridge tossing coins. Seen less often modern day, but seen more often in the past.
Cristina: Like if this is a time thing then it doesn't really matter. So shouldn't they all be seen equally? Even if it's the same person? It's like we're watching their timeline playing over and over.
Jack: Except we are literally getting when these reports are coming from.
Cristina: But why would it be different? Like of how often one is seen versus the other if it's out of time anyway, like we should be seeing her as a girl. And as an adult, equally as much. Because it's unrelated.
Jack: Why do you.
Cristina: Even if it's the same person, why.
Jack: Do we think it's out of time?
Cristina: Because she's probably existing in the. I guess I do feel like maybe it's an echo. I guess it's hard not to see it. Like, just we're seeing different versions of this one person living out their life. But then again, it doesn't make sense. Maybe. I guess the most sense would be it's just an echo person. Not an echo person, a shadow person.
Jack: Why? Wait, wait, wait.
Cristina: I don't know. Because she's playing with a boy. That makes it seem a little different.
Jack: Maybe the boy is an echo too, based on that logic. Right.
Cristina: If he's an echo. Yeah. Like, I don't know, it's easy to see that her as an echo. But then, like, why would one time period be more popular in one time period of ours? Like, what would make the difference of seeing her younger back then and her older now? Unless she's maybe more of a shadow realm person, because then she ages. But if she's an echo, why, it would all be happening right now.
Jack: Yeah, but based on what we're talking about, then she actually is aging because she's already aged. No, no, no. What we're talking about is that basically she was younger in the past and older now. That's just aging through time.
Cristina: Yes. These are all moments of her aging and at a different time, so it wouldn't matter.
Jack: The order is all the older ones in the future, all the older ones are happening now, and all the younger ones are happening earlier, which makes it.
Cristina: Seem less of an echo because why would it matter?
Jack: No. Yeah, it's definitely not an echo.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I'm saying it's just a. Like a living something.
Cristina: Yes, yes. It has to be.
Jack: Yeah. It's currently something that's aged. Right. That's what we're looking at. Somebody's been living there.
Cristina: Because if it was just an echo, it would be all versions.
Jack: Yeah, randomly. Why would it be of the same person if it was an echo?
Cristina: But then the way you worded it is like, they see her less now, but they see her more now. Like, of different versions.
Jack: Yeah. They see the lady in the white dress. That lady is seen the most current day.
Cristina: But that doesn't mean they don't see the young girl or the other young lady.
Jack: We also have to remember the place we're talking about and people just talking random s***.
Cristina: So they're just sharing.
Jack: Yeah, this is majority Rules. And by vast majority. Does it rule in all of these instances? It's by vast majority. I summarize it. And I'll explain that later too.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But these are ultimately collections of reports.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That summarize into this, into these four different groups of people. And those stories were actual police reports that fit these suits very accurately. Like they're not definitely reporting different individuals as opposed to one person who seems to be kind of moving through time, it seems to me.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah, I guess.
Jack: But that's what we're supposed to find out ultimately, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because I don't actually know. And we have no clue what is. Like, what would she be doing there if she was a person living there?
Cristina: Well, scaring people. She's obviously scaring people. She's jumping to the road. She's pretending she's committing suicide, which could.
Jack: Suggest she's some sort of a shadow.
Cristina: Yeah. All her behaviors seem really shadow realm.
Jack: What other behavior seems shadow realmy to you?
Cristina: Just like throwing pebbles at people while they're driving by with a kid. Like she might be trying to scare them. She just seems like she's trying to scare people. Different. In different ways. In different ways that aren't like horrifying, but like scared for her, which is still.
Jack: But then this brings into question the nature of Clinton Road. Right. Like, is what's happening in there that creatures in the shadow. Like, maybe this place is so tightly connected that people that live in the shadow realm come to their side of this place because it's so well connected. It's a place where feasibly you could have had adrenochrome on this side, cross over when you die. And then come and live around this area and be as close to some earth like place as possible. Because then why is she just living at the castle? And why does it look like a castle to her?
Cristina: We don't know what it looks like to her.
Jack: Fair she's just living there. Unless she's actually living at these. This castle.
Cristina: They're just saying she does because she's by them.
Jack: Yes. She doesn't actually have to live there.
Cristina: No. She lives in the area or she's visiting the area often.
Jack: And then the description I always heard about the white dress, but it got real complicated when it turned into coat. Yeah. In a gown, a robe, a raincoat or a dress. Always white.
Cristina: That sounds like she's just living around that area because you'd have to change clothes eventually. Like, she's not a cartoonist.
Jack: No, I don't think these cases are one Person saying she's changing to all of these. I think all the different cases are like, I think she was.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: You know, look like this.
Cristina: Yeah. Because we can't really tell.
Jack: Yeah, they can't really tell.
Cristina: Yeah. And like even the color of the clothes maybe we can't really see what color it is. So it looks white.
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: It might not actually be wherever she is.
Jack: Yes, yes, yes. Or if she is actually on this side.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like they're moving in a car. Unwilling in most of these cases to get out because they're paranoid and they're like, what if this is just some crazy from the woods and she's just gonna stab me? Or.
Cristina: But they all seem scared, even though it's mostly it's for her. Like, oh, I'm worried about her. Kind of.
Jack: Yeah. It's always fear of some sort. Interesting. That's a different kind of fear. Sympathetic fear.
Cristina: Yes. That's exactly what she seems to be feeding on then.
Jack: Except sometimes she doesn't. She's just like standing in traffic. Maybe she starts fading.
Cristina: Sometimes it gets in traffic. That's horrifying.
Jack: That's f****** horrifying.
Cristina: What are you talking about? Yeah, so horrifying.
Jack: Just a chick shows up out of nowhere in a white.
Cristina: Yeah. Like there's no way you don't get scared in the moment. I don't know.
Jack: No, it's f*****. It's just being there. It doesn't matter. Just being there. It works.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's a place to live. If you took adrenochrome, I bet that place is CRO. That's why.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know.
Jack: It's just active. There's just people living in the woods together, being cool buddy buddy with one another. Because it's like home instead of whatever the. The shadow realm.
Cristina: She's probably not hanging out with the boy, cuz I think the boy is an echo. So she's just really just watching and amazing like everyone else. Like.
Jack: Yeah, like how weird.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's an interesting point. I haven't thought about that like actively, but I remember having like the brief moment of do. Does an echo play the same. In the same spatial location of the shadow realm?
Cristina: Possibly because they find this echo, this space where the echoes are living are, is as interesting for some reason.
Jack: Yes. And they can go there easily from their side. So it must physically be the same location somehow, even if warped.
Cristina: So there might be some echoes of our. Of beings that are from here and some echoes that are beings from them over there.
Jack: And that would explain really Weird, like things we can't track. Yeah, because it's like. It's not even even like the weird.
Cristina: Sounds that could be creatures that could. Maybe Those are echo sounds. Like shadow realm echoes.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that definitely. How strange. We've never come across that thought because. Right. But then that's weird. I would not. If it's a time. If an echo is a time distortion, not actually a dead person.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Then it's just a sort of snapshot of one of their moments too, being shown at a random time somewhere in that spot. Somewhere in a realm in that place.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think it's important somehow, this whole time distortion thing, for real. I think so. That's why there are scientists working there and doing something and then something horrible is gonna happen. I don't know.
Jack: Now that's interesting. Right, Because I think. I think I found that too, but.
Cristina: More about what's gonna happen.
Jack: Not what's gonna happen or what has happened, but. Well, I'll explain. Now I'm gonna talk about public records, not police records. This is a summarized. This is not literally word for word. This is simplified to get the information across as quickly as possible. There's public records about a lot of different sets of information. Right. Okay. I'm just gonna look at them. We're gonna look at the information together.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And we gonna have a conversation about this information. Okay. So the first mention of any female in the woods of Clinton Road in some kind of a white something was in 1965. Described as pale young female, homeless, roughly 5, 4.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Just random information.
Cristina: That is random.
Jack: Doesn't mean anything. But this was a robed young lady.
Cristina: Robed?
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a gown type of. She fits this lady obviously fits the. All the women we're talking about fit the dress code.
Cristina: Okay. White, homeless.
Jack: No. Homeless. No. This is just part of what's in this document.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Descriptors. I took out the word and put the whole sentence. Okay. Now I'm gonna tell you about a period of time between 1950 and 1970. Okay. In 1952, there were first reports of a satanic ritual or satanic rituals. We'll say satanic activity at Cross Castle. This gets noted. And this is just in the documents being recorded in history. There's been reports, you know, just 1950s, 1952. So Satanists. Ooh, they're Satanists. In. In the. In the ruins of the castle.
Cristina: How old is that castle?
Jack: Ancient.
Cristina: Because. Do you have the Date of when it was a castle.
Jack: It was a ca. I have a date when it stopped being a castle.
Cristina: Oh, what's that?
Jack: 1988.
Cristina: 1988. And it was ruins in 1952.
Jack: It wasn't ruins.
Cristina: It was still a castle.
Jack: It was still a castle. What? It wasn't an inhabited castle.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: I think you think it was a castle, though.
Cristina: I like the history of this castle. When are we gonna get to that?
Jack: That's happening for sure.
Cristina: Okay, but just not today.
Jack: That's happening for sure. You're gonna understand why we have to look at this castle. Everything. Everything aims at the we. I told you. The castle comes last. There's too much. And it all points to the castle. So obviously we have to save the castle for last. It's the obvious conclusion. There's something weird going on in that.
Cristina: Castle because I want to know about it before the quote, unquote, uncle Today's. I know, I know, but, like, there had to have been weird things happening.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Before.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So that castle is gonna be a while.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's gonna be not just from now, but like the cat. The episode is gonna be hefty good stuff.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So satanic rituals, 1952. First time we get satanic rituals happening at this castle.
Cristina: What do people consider satanic? They're in robes. They've gotta be sultanic.
Jack: Interesting point. Right. Interesting point. Unrelated to this castle per se, but rather spoken of throughout the woods, many different groups of robed people. Consistently, the two most used words are KKK members and druids.
Cristina: And how do they. Like, can you tell the difference? I mean, I guess you assume because they're dressed in white, they're kkk. But, like, what if the druids just happen to be wearing white?
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: How do you. How do you know what you're like?
Jack: Because it would just be a robe. It doesn't matter the color. Right. It's just the style.
Cristina: Yeah. So is it one or the other.
Jack: Code of a black robe?
Cristina: Exactly. How do they know? How do they know? I don't know. There's something wrong with the story, but.
Jack: Okay. In 1955, investigations are demanded by the mayor of the time, Arthur McAdams. This forced the local police to work with the Newark Watershed Conservation and Development Corporation, or nwcdc, owners of the Clinton Road and the forest surrounding it.
Cristina: To do what?
Jack: To begin investigations to find out about those satanic individuals.
Cristina: How do they do that?
Jack: Are they a danger? I guess patrol and, like, Set up ways to, you know, keep it safe for people so dangerous stuff doesn't happen. So he's just gonna look and see if there was ever anything, Two years later, in 1957, investigations are concluded and produce no proof of any claim. Yeah, checks out. Like, I don't know what you. How you were performing, what were you doing for two years.
Cristina: Like, bruh, they're just walking around and they couldn't see any ghosts because maybe that at the end of the day, these so called satanic ritual people are just ghosts. And like, what are the chances? It's really random though. You stumble upon them. So why would you. When you're looking for them? I mean.
Jack: Yeah, that's fair.
Cristina: And not just ghosts, but like, there could be shadow people, they could be whatever. But like, you don't just look for them, they just. It just happens. And then you have a story, I guess.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: So that's probably why Casta didn't find anything because they were just. They were looking. And like, you can't scare someone who's expecting you.
Jack: This fascinating logic. I'm kind of bad. I'm trying to process this because this absolutely, like checks out so heftily. It's like there's so. I'm so baffled by the fact that we've gone through so much data and one of the most consistent things in the world is that the investigators always come out empty handed. But people will sometimes. We've shown. We've shown on the show. I mean, I haven't shown the viewers, but I've shown you. And we've looked at some of these things. Some videos of actual things have happened. We've looked at photos, we've looked at literal speeches. It's never from people who are looking. It's never from the cops, it's never from the authorities. It's from everyone else. The people who are like, oh my God, what the.
Cristina: Because they're going to be affected emotionally. They're the ones that is what's feeding.
Jack: Whatever this is while people looking for it just think they're gonna find something not disturbing already.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And there's no fear to begin the ball rolling.
Cristina: Yeah. And if, like, even if they feel fear, they're gonna push it back because they got a job to do, trained.
Jack: To push it back.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That is. Bravery is pushing the fear down.
Cristina: Weak food. If they were gonna do something about that.
Jack: Interesting. This is interesting. This probably. You could probably find so many moments in which this happened. How very interesting. I know. I remember so many. But now this Is. That's a great point at looking at. Because anytime we see, oh, there's so many reports and the cops just find nothing, there's something weird going on there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's another thing that's just weird and unnormal.
Cristina: And I doubt it's that they're hiding it. Yes. They really.
Jack: They found nothing.
Cristina: Can't find anything.
Jack: There's nothing in them. They found nothing interesting. I like that. Fascinating. Also in 1957, Mayor McAdam resigns a month later.
Cristina: That's unrelated to anything.
Jack: Unrelated to any information. Just details.
Cristina: The people were like, you wasted everyone's time. You gotta go, I don't know.
Jack: 1965, this is a huge time leap. This is eight years later. First mention of a female of any description in the woods surrounding Clinton Roads is mentioned. Female in white dress.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: 1966. This is where it gets kind of. I didn't know about this one. This one just happened while I was looking for things. Black cars are reported coming in and out of Clinton Road day and night. Black cars, black cars, unmarked black cars coming in and out.
Cristina: What do you think that's about?
Jack: There were so many f****** reports of this s***. I don't know how this didn't make, like, national news or some s***. There were so many. There were hundreds people calling in to City hall about, who the f*** are these people coming in out of town. There were reports. I don't know, dude. People calling into the police station like, there's shady people who I've seen. They think it's the same person. Some people. Some people think it's different people. It's like there was so much. There were hundreds of. Just different, like, reports, records, and like, everything. Everything under the sun. This just kept showing up, but only for this short period of time.
Cristina: What was the period again?
Jack: Well, we'll get to the end of the period of time in a bit, but. And it's, like, weird. That's really weird. This just shows up, drowns everything, and then just poof. Never mentioned again. 1969. That's three years later.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Final reports of Satanic, druid or black car activity all stop simultaneously. Just done. 1971. First reports of KKK presence in the area.
Cristina: Okay. The Druids transform.
Jack: Now I'm not saying anything. This is just information. I cut this information out specifically because it built an image I thought was important. But let's talk about it. What does this seem like to you? We have, in 1952, satanic rituals are happening in the castle. Then three years later, 1955 people are kind of getting freaked out because they're.
Cristina: Seeing the lady or.
Jack: No, no, this is just about satanic rituals happening in the area, specifically around the castle. So three years later of reports just happening consistently, investigations are demanded, and the mayor goes ahead and jumps into action, and he gets together with the people who own it, the nwcdc, and they start doing whatever the f*** they were gonna do.
Cristina: But then the.
Jack: And then the mayor quits about this random. I'm not saying it's about this random, but like, he quits a month later after the thing is done.
Cristina: And then some suspicious people come, and then some suspicious.
Jack: Well, no, then the lady shows up, the girl.
Cristina: Oh, in a dress.
Jack: A girl in a dress. There's just a girl in a dress. First report of a girl in a dress wandering the woods. And then we get black cars coming in and out for three years straight. Black cars coming in and out. People reporting over and over and over, reports with these f****** weird cars. Final report of satanic druid or black car activity happens at the end of the three year period of the black cars. All three just suddenly, poof, gone. And then two years from that point, oh, there's KKK in the area. That's what's happening.
Cristina: I don't know. That's. I don't know. Tell me what's happening.
Jack: I don't know, man. Like, if you've ever seen a cover up, probably looks like that photo of what?
Cristina: Oh, yeah, like, right.
Jack: Is that what I'm looking at? Am I delusional? Does it look like the narrative changed really hard suddenly?
Cristina: Yes, but what did the cars have to do with anything?
Jack: This is very interesting. Right? So cars show up, but cars show up after the lady does. And that's pretty interesting. The first mention of the lady happens in 1965. And then from 1966 to 1969, black.
Cristina: Cars, druids summoned some creature who looks like a lady.
Jack: And then they came to something weird was happening. Something weird was happening in 1952 where the first reports happened of something. And satanic rituals, whatever. Those are Druids. Those are some Hermes like guys.
Cristina: They were summoning creatures from the shadow realm or something. Something not really summoning. It would be more like opening portals, Something.
Jack: Right. And then people started to panic. So then they tell the mayor or whatever means led to this investigation. And Mayor McAdams is like, okay, whatever, I'm a little gimbal. It's. And so he gets the people who own it to work with the local police and look into it. And they find nothing. And then he quits. Okay, you found nothing that's not worth quitting over. Is this like what they made you do it? Whatever. How would a crazy big political stick handle? Like, no, this s***? Nobody gives a s***. Why'd you quit?
Cristina: He for sure quit.
Jack: He resigned. Was literally what happened. He resigned his position at Monthly. It doesn't have to be related. It could literally just be unrelated. I don't know what the 1950s were like. Maybe everybody was quitting back then.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: You know, just pattern. I threw that there because pattern. It looks relative. I don't know.
Cristina: Seems strange.
Jack: Yeah, it's weird. It's notable. Somebody felt like they needed to write it down, so. Right. He works with those people. The investigations are concluded. In 1957, nothing is found. And then that same year, a month later, he quits. Okay. Then in 1965, eight years later, a mention of a lady in white, a girl, a young girl in a white dress in the woods surrounding Clinton Road is reported consistently. Just suddenly everybody saw this girl.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: 1966, the next year, it's abundantly reported. So presumably began little by little of black cars coming in and out. And then it's just. 1966 is like, this is ridiculous at this point.
Cristina: Why is there so many black cars?
Jack: Why are there so many like, tinted window, black cars coming in and out. These indescript black cars coming in and out.
Cristina: Investigating. The real investigation has started.
Jack: Real investigation has begun. That has to be it. Right? Like, we've never discussed them in a black on this show.
Cristina: No.
Jack: And like, you know, it doesn't seem like they're real to me. It sounds like some crazy people make up. And you know, we watch, we listen to other shows like Mysterious Universe where they often discuss the men in black showing up for things. But like, d***, bro, we cross paths with them now, that kind of looks like what happened right now.
Cristina: I think we'll find out. They're scientists, I don't think.
Jack: I think everybody is.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or they work for powerful science. Yeah, Big science.
Cristina: Big science, yeah.
Jack: You know, everything is. Everything is ruled by big science ultimately. But yeah, that's weird. Hey, that's. That's really what happened. The real investigation to coming in and out, taking samples and doing research and in shifts, most likely.
Cristina: Yeah, probably for the sea people, I guess. I don't know. Big science.
Jack: I don't know who big science belongs to. Right. And then with the, with the sudden stop of reports of black cars, we also get the sudden stop of reports of Any satanic activity, druid activity, or black cars coming through, all of it's just gone.
Cristina: But we don't know if it's really gone, if there's just KKK. Like, I don't know if those are really KKK's or those are just Juliets who are now in ya. Like, how do I know?
Jack: They're controlling the narrative. Do they own the police?
Cristina: How do I know?
Jack: No, you get my point. Like, nah, bro, it's weird. It all stopped. Yeah, that's where it's weird. It's weird at all.
Cristina: I don't know why we replace one weird thing with another weird thing. Like, yeah, no, because it's more believable.
Jack: It's just racism.
Cristina: I know. Like, but still, it's so bad. Like, wouldn't you still won't people still be complaining?
Jack: Like, I think they'll just leave it alone because the KKK is a legal organization.
Cristina: Okay. That's right.
Jack: Yeah. Even then, weirdly enough, it was illegal and still is a legal organization. Some of them do sketchy s***.
Cristina: They shouldn't, but they're not.
Jack: But it's legal organization.
Cristina: They're not satanic as far as we can tell.
Jack: As far as we can tell. Right. Okay, now I'm gonna tell you about some different mentions of a lady in white. Let me correct that. Of a female in white. That matters. Female in white. This is a collection summarized again, it includes public records, police records, state records, Reddit posts, weird New Jersey blogs, and other related sources of this nature.
Cristina: Everything, everything.
Jack: All the mentions that people are like, I saw something equal parts. I made sure it was equal parts from all of them.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: To summarize the ultimate logic of what I'm about to explain, this is also focus on time. Now, all these stories that I'm about to give you were told to these people by somebody in their family about this area.
Cristina: These are all stories.
Jack: These are all passed down stories. Not one of these is lived except the police records and the public records, which were literally. And the state records, those all existed prior to the Internet. These were just somehow mentioned one way or another. The Reddit, the weird New Jersey and the blogs, that's all people who've been told.
Cristina: That's what we're gonna do.
Jack: And a lot of the public records were transcribed with notations explaining that they were filling in some of the information that was lost through a flood or something. So a little bit of interpretation needs to be had for the pub, for some of these public records. But it doesn't matter when you see this consistency. 1965, a female in a nightgown is seen wandering the woods near Cross Castle. Female is in white. Either a raincoat. Oh, no, she's in a white raincoat, seen wandering and inspecting Cross Castle. Female in a nightgown exploring the reservoir lake. Those are the three. Female in a nightgown seen wandering the woods near Cross Castle. Female in a white raincoat, seen wandering, inspecting Cross Castle. Female in a nightgown exploring the reservoir lake. All of these happened 1965. Many, many, many, many mentions.
Cristina: Okay, these are like police reports.
Jack: Police reports, public records, state records, stuff like that.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And like two of these were, oh, my granddad said something about whatever the f***. Reddit seems to be the most informed about what my grandfather said. 1966, the most consistent mention. Female in a nightgown reported sitting on the edge of the bridge where we would see the kid.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: This was heftily reported at that time. It's still reported and it's been reported ever since. A lot of people online who see it all the time. There's a lot of people who. But it was so mentioned back then. And this is one year after the first mentions, which were the previous three. One year later. It's important to note that 1965 and 1966, the most common word in reports and mentions of any sort was girl, often paired with the word young. So young girl consistently being a descriptor. 1969, female, again, young girl, white dress, reported coming from the woods, screaming for help before disappearing. Happened consistently. Female, young girl, white dress, seen crying by the bridge, reported consistently. Female, young girl, white dress, seen wandering by the woods, reported consistently. 1972, three years later, female in white, dead now. So those three years, those were the reports we were getting. Basically, that's where that whole period of time, those who were throwing in there. So 1972, female in white dress or gown, scaring traffic and endangering drivers. That happens until 1977. Female in a white raincoat attempting to lure people into the forest.
Cristina: How so?
Jack: Trying to call them in. Help me and come in here.
Cristina: So, yeah, that was the last one of it.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay. Shadow Realm creature. I don't know. What else could it be?
Jack: I know, I know, man. I don't know. I don't know. Same person, it seems to be. Or if. If. Okay, let's play devil's advocate and say multiple women. Why are they all this uniform thing. They're all lost in this wood. They're all, oh, my God, help me. Can you take me out of here? Hitchhikers. Oh, please get me out. Some are sad. Oh, please, can I kill myself? Can I die?
Cristina: I don't know. I mean, it could be multiple things.
Jack: Are they running experiments on these girls and they're getting like phase in between and they just can't die. They're just stuck in these woods. Why is it always dressed the same? That's what's with me.
Cristina: Except we don't know if it's really white clothing.
Jack: We don't know. We don't know. But it's always bright enough that everybody thinks it's white at all times.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's bright enough that everybody unmistakably.
Cristina: We don't have the same. We don't have enough details to actually know it's the same person.
Jack: We. We don't have any physical details. Yeah, there been some people who gave them, but it varied so widely it didn't matter.
Cristina: Yeah. So it could totally be different people. It could be the same. I don't know if it's the same person. I think shadow realm creature if it's not. I kind of still think shadow realm creature. Creatures who just use the same skill. Like some type of animal or whatever.
Jack: Like incubus or some s***.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: I don't know, man. I don't know, man. There's some things here that totally throw me off. What's. What is it with raincoat?
Cristina: It's different outfits, though.
Jack: I think the description of the outfit stays pretty consistent though, because we have a raincoat, a nightgown. We have a nightgown. We have a robe or a dress. I would argue the dress is the outlier there.
Cristina: I don't know how. Robe and a raincoat.
Jack: They're all flat down.
Cristina: Are you saying like they look similar?
Jack: I think they all look similar. I think it's the same one outfit. Why? What they. She's got a color preference and can't choose anything but white.
Cristina: That's the.
Jack: They think she's not a Power Ranger, man.
Cristina: She's not wearing white. That's what I think. I don't know.
Jack: But why are they all so bright? Or maybe she's glowing.
Cristina: Maybe she's kiss. She's some type of creature of creatures.
Jack: They're all creatures, always in white. Always in white.
Cristina: Different creatures, same plan.
Jack: Very bright, maybe.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: No, but if she's just fluorescent or bright, then she wouldn't look white. Her colors would be more obvious because it wouldn't be dark. Her colors would be unnaturally vibrant.
Cristina: Yes. I don't think she's a Ghost or echo. She's some kind of.
Jack: Seems logical. Like she's moving around. Right. It sees there.
Cristina: Yes. There might be still more than one.
Jack: Well, let me propose some things here. Some experiments were being done. Maybe they're still being done somewhere. The castle's gone, but, you know, somewhere in the woods there on the ground, whatever. And young girls are what they use. And so, you know, they use them. Whatever. We tried whatever experiment that phased you in between the. Whatever the. And it didn't work or did work or I don't know what the they're doing. And then they're like, okay, get the out. We don't care what you do now.
Cristina: Yeah. Because like, even if they ran away, they're stuck because they're in some type.
Jack: Of limbo and they've had some of them survive and figure out if I keep scaring people or saying here that it's scary already, I won't die or whatever, I won't disappear, go crazy or whatever the.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You know, maybe they figured that out. Maybe the few have figured that out. But there was a uniform they were wearing at whatever facility they were being experimented on.
Cristina: Yeah. They're usually dressed in white.
Jack: We know the children are leaving from our realm. That's a fact.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: There's no question about it. The fact that we're kidnapping all the children, are being kidnapped by all the rich people and being sold to the shadow realm. So somebody's running experiments. Maybe it's not even the shadow realm of the experiments are being run. Maybe we're still just trying to figure out how to cross realms easily. They're stuck in the woods. Why don't they get out? And we didn't never hear about them getting out. They don't think we have heard about some getting out, but they're stuck on the other side.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They just leave the woods and make it somewhere else in the shadow realm. That happens to be on our side too.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: Because although many of these mentions started here, they do show up all over the world later. Almost all of them.
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: Almost everything that's come from Clinton Road.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And that region.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I didn't even realize. The headless horse. That blows my freaking mind. That that originated there God knows how long ago and that spread everywhere.
Cristina: I guess. That is weird.
Jack: It's weird, right?
Cristina: They're coming from there because of the powerful spots.
Jack: Because it's a powerful spot. They're coming from there. They're leaving there.
Cristina: Which is weird because you think it'd be Where a mountain is. But that has nothing to do with it. Well, that's something related more to the sea people than it does to the shadow realm.
Jack: Yes. Because we know the shadow realm and forests get along the law. The Vikings got it. And it looks like we're. We're getting pretty close to, like, we don't know what happened, but.
Cristina: Gotta be some dead fairies in there, bro.
Jack: There's a dead everything in there.
Cristina: There's dead fairies. There's got to be fairy trees in that forest.
Jack: There must be fairy trees for a fact. I'm sure there are shadow creatures that have been killed in there. And I am so sure that so many people were sacrificed in those woods.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: To make it what it is.
Cristina: Yeah. It's too strange. It's too. Too much is happening.
Jack: Too much that runs together. Option number two, Maybe it's not a bunch of little girls. Gown, robe and raincoat are very similar. Not the dress. Another thing that would fit in place of the dress would be lab coat. It fits exactly the same as a robe, as a raincoat or a gown. Could be a lab coat.
Cristina: You're seeing a scientist.
Jack: Could be literal scientists that you're looking at. But that doesn't make sense. So why would they say that? And they wouldn't think that, so they would think robe or this or that instead. Just spitballing. I don't know.
Cristina: That's weird. But, like, if a scientist lady was yelling at you, I don't know if you'd pay attention. I don't know.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: It's a weird one. Okay.
Jack: Okay. Now I'm gonna tell you a bit of information, and then I'm gonna tell you all the years in which it happened. All the following years and mentions are all in a white raincoat and identically described. They are all summarized into these specific descriptions. Ultimately, every mention following these years, the descriptions are, one, wandering around the castle, Two, watching cars roadside, Three, throwing something near the bridge. Four, picking something up from under the bridge, and five, collecting water, doing something to the water, or wandering around the water of the lake. And the years that this is mentioned in crazy amounts. It was important to mention the specific years because that was the weirder part. 1991, 1992, 1993 suddenly stops until 1999, then again, 2001-2002-2003-2004, and then it stops until 2009. And then it stops again until 2019-2020-2021-2022, and then it stopped again. No mentions last year, no mentions this.
Cristina: Year of her at all of her.
Jack: In a raincoat, specifically doing any of those things I said all those suddenly stopped any year I didn't mention every year I did mention it was just going on. That's exactly who the f*** she was and what she was doing.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: 91, 92, 93, huge jump. 99, 91.
Cristina: I mean, 2001, those other years that you didn't mention she was.
Jack: No mention of her in this very description.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the mentions of her in general were low. But no mentions of her in the lab coat or raincoat.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I picked this out because of the lab coat idea. These are just her in what people literally said a raincoat. She's just in a raincoat.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it. 91, 92, 93, jump to 99. 201. 02, 03, 04, jump to 09, jump 10 years to 209 to 2192-020202-12022. And then no mentions for two years. Strange stranger is the fact that 1991, there were the bombings at the Twin Towers that made people think there was a terrorist invasion happening. Weirder is that right before Y2K quote, unquote. 1999, active dies for 2024. I mean, 2000, when nothing is happening. And then 2001 rolls by and the Twin Towers get struck. And again, people have this fear of, oh, okay, terrorism.
Cristina: So now you're leading towards. She's gotta be some type of shadow realm creature.
Jack: And then we have 02, 03, 04, active kind of dies out for a little. And again in 09, not sure what that's about. And then 2019 suddenly pops up and is mentioned all the way to 2022, and then suddenly dies again.
Cristina: And if we look up those years, something bad you think happened, something horrible.
Jack: So somewhere, 01 through 04, she could be coasting off of the fear from, you know, war against terrorism or whatever we were saying at the time. 09, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened on that. Obama got elected. Were people that scared? I don't know about that. I couldn't figure it out. I couldn't figure that one out. What's weird about 2019 is you showed up before the virus. The virus began in December. These mentions were happening all the way from January.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Popped up suddenly. Thick, heavy. How she beat the virus by, like, she beat the mention of even there's something wrong by, like, nine months. That's weird. That wasn't fear. That tells me something very Different. That tells me somebody can either measure when something is gonna happen somehow looking forward and show up ahead of time to get things in order.
Cristina: Yeah, makes sense.
Jack: Or somebody can orchestrate things happening.
Cristina: I don't know. But like, why would she be doing all of that? She's just in the right place at the right time.
Jack: In none of those instances was she not in Clinton Road.
Cristina: Yeah, exactly. She can't do anything. She's just there waiting for these events to happen.
Jack: And Clinton Road is what? Why is it channeling crap that happens elsewhere also just throwing information out there. If Clinton Road is pulling, presumably the castle of Cross Castle or the railroad or whatever the crap is happening. The mines, One of those two. Probably the mines, realistically. But one of those two is pulling in this energy that gets formed on this side so that it could be used by things from the other side. Is that what Santa Claus figured out? A channeling system where little amounts from across the world and get pulled into where he lives that he barely leaves.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And he could reserve that to do crazy s*** like move the whole world in one night.
Cristina: I don't know. Because I feel like you need a stone for something like that.
Jack: Maybe he built it with a stone.
Cristina: Okay. Then there's gotta be a stone that was built in that. I guess the conclusion still is that there was or is going to be a stone in that spot.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Because the stones are somehow related.
Jack: This is what I mean. Like, it's obvious. Obviously, the miner, the castle, got something weird. And one of those two places, without a doubt, we're gonna find something nuts that's gonna answer a craft ton of questions. But there's so much going on. I'd rather see if we could figure it out before we get there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because there's so much to go through.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And like, I don't know, man. What does it look like? It looks like the problem is the aging problem. Right. So it could also be that maybe this is a scientist that grew up there. Not grew up there, but she was young, she aged working here. She understands the woods. And so people have seen her many times. And maybe sometimes she's running experiments. What makes me think that is the collecting water, doing something to the water or wandering around the water by the lake, also running experiments, like try to.
Cristina: Tell them that she needs help.
Jack: I think I have a theory about that. I have a theory about that. I think she is an inevitable scientist. I think she's like one of these other people who went through a weird series of events and then joined something like the. The earth gods or the sun gods or something. It was like, okay, by chance, you seem to fit a weird role we can make for you. I think she kind of fits that in that maybe weird experiments were. In fact, this might. This is my theory in the background, right?
Cristina: You think this is from the past, though, or the future?
Jack: From the past. I think in 1952, Druids showed up and were doing some experiments intentionally trying to do something. Maybe they were experimenting on some chick, probably trying to recreate people or what, I don't know. Probably trying to do something similar to biblical things. I don't know. And this girl that was. Girl at that point was one of the subjects or whatever the crap. And she, you know, got whatever happened phased or stuck or maybe not even. Maybe she can leave and like, who the f*** knows? Maybe she can. Maybe she's the one who can actually f****** just come and go. I don't know. But she then freaks out at the beginning, and we see her a bunch running and asking for help. Help me. Can you see me? Do you see me? And she's crying by the lake and crying by the bridge. And that's all at the beginning, all that together. Young girl, crying and confused. But as she gets older and as the descriptions get more away from girl and start leaning towards lady, then, you know, she's over it. It seems like a person who's been dealing with it for a while. Again, my theory, I don't know. Been dealing with it for a while because the mentions of girl and the mentions of crying and asking for help kind of fizzle out. And then we get to a period where we just see her sad and somber and like, kind of like, you know, depression. Made peace with it.
Cristina: And then she's suicidal, though.
Jack: She seems like, yeah, maybe I'll kill myself. Maybe I'll figure out a way to die or something. But then that also fades away. And eventually we get this person that seems very purposed. They're over here doing this, they're interacting. They're doing that. They're doing. Their sadness is gone now. It's just like a serious individual kind of actively doing things, almost ignoring people who notice them. Like, whatever. Yeah, people on the other side, huh? Sure, whatever.
Cristina: Doing what, though?
Jack: That's the weirdest part. And what makes me most confused is collecting water, doing something to the water. What a weird series of descriptions that was. And wandering around the lake. So some experiments were definitely being run at the lake.
Cristina: Yes, but what.
Jack: And then she was wandering around the castle. She's Been seen wandering roadside. She's been seen throwing something near the bridge and she's been seen picking something up from under the bridge. Just science going and exploring and like checking things out.
Cristina: It's hard to tell these.
Jack: All of these are in lab coat or raincoat, which I am calling a lab coat for this theory.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: It's just her outfit's so very. It's hard to say just to say that it's a lab coat.
Jack: I don't know if anybody in a panic fear mode can really identify clearly when they're also similar.
Cristina: Just.
Jack: I mean, I guess a gown and a robe are quite distinct.
Cristina: That's tough. Yeah, I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Just theories, you know. I don't know. This is just weird patterns that formed looking at this.
Cristina: Is she just a scientist or some type of experiments?
Jack: Yeah, maybe. There's a bunch of these girls, they're actually just stuck out there. I don't know. I don't know. Something about the space time anomaly is affecting them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If there's multiple girls and yes, they're stuck there because why would there be more than one? They're definitely just trapped there.
Cristina: What do the men in black have to do with anything?
Jack: What was that? About three years of them consistently coming in and out and suddenly narrative changes.
Cristina: I mean, yeah, I guess something changed.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Now it's kkk.
Cristina: That's weird because she didn't change.
Jack: When you look and you look for druids, when you look for images of druids, they're usually in white and they have a robe that has a hood. Not only that, if you look at the very robe that druids wore and you look at the same ones the necromancers were, they were identical. They're just often darker. For necromancers it's the same s*** almost down to the T. And you look at the ones that Zoroastrians wore and it was identical to the f****** one that the necromancer is just a whole mess.
Cristina: It's weird that she's never described wearing that type of robe though. All these outfits, but none of them are a rope. Like if it was a science coat, you might confuse that for. I don't know, I don't know. I don't think she's part of it.
Jack: We would have. We would have needed a science person to make one of these reports. Because the problem is this is by casual people, a lot of the Time. So we're like taking randos at their casual non well descriptive words and like their interpretation of whatever random series of situations they saw in plain darkness on a road that literally has nobody living there and no lights. So like, if any situation was ever vaguer, like, I don't know, all of this could be. A hundred percent of this could be unrelated. All of it. It could be unrelated. I don't know if it is because of. D***. The consistency is kind of hefty. Yeah, that's why I'm put it here. I put it like this again, it's just random information. But that's the problem. The problem that I began with. Problem one is that I don't know if all these women are in fact the same women. And if they are, then what the f*** happened? And if they're not, then what the f*** happened?
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: You didn't get anywhere other than just come up with more questions and solve anything?
Cristina: No, I don't know either. I'm confused. I don't know. Because it could be either or it.
Jack: Could be many women in experiments. We know experiments were happening and we know somebody's shutting the people who would report on about.
Cristina: Yeah, and we know so many people disappear in that area. Like how many of these women are just one of those disappeared?
Jack: Yes. How is anybody gonna prove it? They disappear if you get close enough.
Cristina: Yeah, tough, tough. Okay.
Jack: I don't know, man. I don't know what to tell you. That's just what I got. Well, the other problem that we definitely can't fit here, but we have to unpack at some point. This problem number two, the fact that there's a little boy and there's so many variations of this little boy in so many places. Little boy?
Cristina: Really? I thought it was just the bridge and the coins.
Jack: No, there's a lot going on and she interacted with them. Anyways.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Anyways, that's for next time.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Okay, so look, if you guys got any input on any of this information. Hey, look, it could be coincidence. I'm just looking at things. I'm comparing and contrasting. None of this matters. It's not important. It could mean nothing. I'm just a crazy person who reports on random things I find. And that's what's happening here and say any of this means anything, I got theories. I could be wrong, probably am wrong. Who knows? It's just more questions. Is it one, is it multiple? And then all the possibilities for either option. So look, if you got theories, hit me up. Hit us up. Let us know usconvopod on Twitter, Instagram on TikTok on Facebook x x remember.
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