Rambling 135: Questions About Christianity
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Why does God allow pain and suffering? Can an all knowing God not see a rebellion bubbling beneath him or his creation committing the first sin or did he intend for these things to happen? The duo answers questions about Christianity in their attempt to convert the listener!
+Episode Details
Questions Asked:
- Is astrology a sin?
- What does heaven look like?
- What makes Christianity different from other religions?
- Who wrote the bible?
- What happens if you die without knowing about Christ?
- Do people get second chances?
- Why are there multiple religions?
- Why does God allow death and suffering of the innocent?
- Why didn’t God anticipate the rebellion?
- Whats with the no sex before marriage thing?
- Why are old testament and new testament God different?
- Why does Christianity condemn novelty?
- What does it mean to surrender to God?
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean? Welcome to Just Conversation, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And I'm Jack.
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Cristina: To the show with you decided that they have to listen to the show.
Jack: Yeah. You just decided that's how this is gonna play out.
Cristina: Why all the time?
Jack: I don't know. It's important.
Cristina: It's important.
Jack: Especially today's episode. Especially today's episode where we are going to turn listeners into believers.
Cristina: Believers. Beavers. What is it called when you believe in beaver?
Jack: In beaver.
Cristina: When you believe in beaver?
Jack: I don't know. Believers, I guess it would be.
Cristina: Yes. We're going to convert you to bebeavers.
Jack: Are you? Beaver. A book. Beaver.
Cristina: Beaver, man.
Jack: There's a name for it, and it's not Believer, but it's close.
Cristina: I don't know what it is, but I feel like it's so similar to believer.
Jack: Yeah, it's, It's. It's in that ballpark.
Cristina: Yes, but we're not converting you into that. Never mind. Yeah, this is about the Sky Daddy.
Jack: Sky Daddy. Christianity. Yeah.
Cristina: Yes. We have got questions from our listeners.
Jack: Yes. On Instagram. So our lovely social media manager posts questions that we tell her to or somebody tells her to. I don't tell her to somebody. Somebody comes up with ideas for this show and then the rest of us just kind of follow along. Anyways, questions get put on the socials, specifically Instagram, and then people go ahead and send in questions and then we go ahead and we answer them on the episode with our expertise on everything. And in this case, our expertise are tremendous degrees on theology that we got with 12 years in college, university, wherever you get these degrees, that's where we went for sure. No question, no lies.
Cristina: Christianity or college for religion.
Jack: Christian college.
Cristina: Christian college, yes.
Jack: So we went to Christian college where we learned how to be good Christians and we know everything there is to know about Christianity and we're going to have questions about Christianity that we Are going to answer today for our listeners to convert.
Cristina: Yes, we're going to help people convert.
Jack: Yeah, it's going to be great. And I hope you guys learn a bunch from these things. You're going to leave better woker, more faithful people.
Cristina: Spiritual. Does that come with faith? I don't know Spiritualism?
Jack: Not necessarily.
Cristina: Oh, okay. All right. The first question is, is astrology a sin? Will I burn in h*** for reading horoscopes?
Jack: The answer to this question is quite simple. Yes.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You're going to burn in h*** for sure. Yeah. Because astrology is magic, essentially.
Cristina: And God said no magic.
Jack: God said no magic? Yeah. Unless I give you magic. I'm the only one who could break the rules. Only me.
Cristina: Huh? That's so complicated. But it is all about trusting. Like the person. Was it Moses?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: He talks to God. Did he do magic tricks?
Jack: Yeah, he had many magic tricks.
Cristina: Like, how did they know to believe him that he got the magic from Jesus?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: I'm not Jesus from God. And like, how do you know? How do you know Jesus got his magic from him?
Jack: Because you didn't see God talk to Moses?
Cristina: No. He went far away by himself in the middle of nowhere to talk to.
Jack: God and then came back and he's like, I talked to him.
Cristina: Yes. So.
Jack: So I don't know. And then he did magic. He could have been talking to the devil for all we know.
Cristina: Yeah, like, how do we know? Who are they talking to?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: How do they know? I mean, it's about faith, though. Do you go to h*** if you're talking to the devil, but you think you're talking to God?
Jack: Interesting, right? Like, how do you know?
Cristina: How do you know?
Jack: How do you know who you're talking to? How would you distinguish between God and the devil?
Cristina: You're just gonna have instincts to know, though.
Jack: Well, yeah, kind of. The Bible does suggest that you would just inherently know, but it also suggests that the devil's deceptive. So, like, it's contradicting itself.
Cristina: Okay. Whaat.
Jack: Yep.
Cristina: It's really complicated. The next question is, what does heaven look like?
Jack: Heaven looks boring. It's just clouds. Like, if you were to grow a beanstalk and climb up the beanstalk and get to the sky.
Cristina: Who said that it was clouds?
Jack: I don't know. Who said it's a different dimension.
Cristina: It's a different dimension. There's houses up there.
Jack: It's not even a different dimension. It's just like. I mean, it would be in the clouds, then it has to be in our physical space. At least it's an island.
Cristina: An island up there?
Jack: No, not an island up there. Just an island. Then again, it could be a floating island. Maybe heaven is a floating island. And the Earth, it's on a different planet. Maybe we've never gone to space because there's no such thing and we really did fake it like NASA's figure.
Cristina: What if it's on a planet, though?
Jack: I guess it could be, because where's.
Cristina: Jesus building these mansions? We don't see him building mansions on top of us.
Jack: But then you're just telling me the Scientology is correct.
Cristina: What if Scientology is correct?
Jack: Yeah, because it's like we're going to be teleported to another planet. That's heaven.
Cristina: Yes. Oh, my gosh. They. They're the next step. They are the next step.
Jack: They are the next step. It's religion regarding aliens.
Cristina: Yeah, but do they have Jesus? I don't know.
Jack: They probably got alien Jesus.
Cristina: Okay. Someone asked what makes Christianity different from other religions?
Jack: Zero things. Except that it's newer, I guess.
Cristina: It's newer.
Jack: It's pretty new.
Cristina: The God is a little different.
Jack: Yes. God went through weird, like, phases of life. He had midlife crisis and changed and changed his ways and stuff. He's also, like, a particularly weak God compared to, like, other gods that could just are omniscient. Jehovah is strange because he feels emotions, which means there's moments that he's not feeling those emotions, so he's incomplete as f***. And there are things, for example, the devil, that he doesn't like, but. But he doesn't just snap out of existence, but he wants to send that guy to h*** and condemn him and punish him, but he doesn't just get rid of him, which means he probably doesn't have the power to do it or doesn't know how.
Cristina: He does know how. I don't know.
Jack: There's something going on that's making him a demigod, not an omniscient God. Mainly those two things. The fact that, like, either he's not strong enough or he doesn't know how, but also the fact that he feels emotions means there are states and moments in which he does. Does not.
Cristina: But the other gods from other religions, they feel emotions.
Jack: They're all demigods.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Every single one of them.
Jack: Every single one. Only chaos is real. Like, really omniscient. Dr. Manhattan feels nothing for anybody. That's a God.
Cristina: He's a true God.
Jack: He's a true God. He's everywhere. All at once, giving no f****. That's God. If you can feel emotion, you're not everything. Because if you were everything, you'd also be the negative emotions and the positive emotions simultaneously. There would be no distinction.
Cristina: Like, also with bad and good, there's no distinction.
Jack: There's no distinction. That's a concept that doesn't make sense to something. That is everything.
Cristina: Yeah. And that's what it takes to be a God.
Jack: Yes. To be a full omniscient God.
Cristina: Yeah. It's weird because, like, the Bible didn't say that, did it? I feel like that's what people interpret God to be.
Jack: Omniscient.
Cristina: Omniscient and things like that. But I don't feel like the Bible actually said he was.
Jack: I don't actually remember. It might.
Cristina: I think that's how people read the Bible as.
Jack: No, I think it says it.
Cristina: I think he just says, you gotta worship me. That's like.
Jack: No, I think the Bible literally says God is everywhere, all the time. That God is within everything and that God is all powerful.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I'm pretty sure that's literally in the Bible.
Cristina: That's people in the book saying that. Or is that God saying that?
Jack: It's people describing God.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Because would he describe himself like that?
Jack: He just says, I'm your God.
Cristina: Yeah, that's why. Like, he's not giving us much, but still. The next question is, who wrote the Bible, when and with what sources?
Jack: Many people throughout long periods of time, they used the previous versions of the Bible as reference points because they all had access to it. They just continued stories they've already read and added to them. So it was a community project to create the book.
Cristina: A bunch of people when?
Jack: Very long ago. Roughly. At least a current version of the Bible. The books that are in there, at least roughly 5,000 years ago, with things.
Cristina: Being a little older 5,000 years ago.
Jack: Actually, no, it could have been 2,000 years ago.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Because I was gonna say the people who believe in the Bible think the world's been around like 3,000 years or something.
Jack: No, 5,000 years. That's why I said 5,000. But that's incorrect. They would think that the Bible is about 2,000 years old.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, the Bible. And it was written by a crap ton of people over time. So it kind of discredits them a little considering they all shared the previous texts and sort of continued adding further in.
Cristina: Yes, the fan fiction, the super fan fiction.
Jack: Yes, it was created by a bunch of people.
Cristina: The next question is, what besides the Bible provides proof of God.
Jack: Nothing.
Cristina: Nothing.
Jack: Well, that's not fair. String theory.
Cristina: String theory.
Jack: String theory suggests that if there were a God, he would be in the seventh dimension, and that would be a being that consists of all things at all times in all places, and can influence everything all simultaneously. So that would, by definition, be God.
Cristina: And there's a God above God, then.
Jack: Yes. There are several dimensions higher up that would encompass the concept of God. But in this idea, in this. In string theory, you and God are no different. You're the same thing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's just. You're a slice of God. It's a slice of a slice of a slice of a slice of a slice. And thus you're just a person.
Cristina: Yeah. And we're also just slices.
Jack: Yes, everybody is.
Cristina: Well, are we like Gods to the first dimension or we're some version of that?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: We're some crazy advanced other thing.
Cristina: Yes. And the next question is, if we all read the same Bible, then why are there so many different denominations of the church? Shouldn't we all believe the same thing since we read the same scripture?
Jack: We don't read the same scripture.
Cristina: We don't. Because it's a bunch of different versions of. I mean, I think it's like different orders of the same thing. Is that what's happening?
Jack: No, it's not different orders. It's. Out of all the books that were written by apostles and people allegedly surrounding Jesus and the people who were communicating with Jehovah and whatever, not all of them make it into every iteration. The King James Version is missing many, many books. The Catholic iteration misses the most books they exclude whatever the h*** they want. And the Catholic edition is the only one that added books that were written by random other people who weren't really. Yes. Who weren't associated with anything.
Cristina: Whoa. Is there any church that has all the books? Is that even possible?
Jack: No, no, no. There's literally a bunch of books that would have been in the Bible, taken, removed, and the original scrolls are in the Vatican, kept secret.
Cristina: Oh, why did they get secret books?
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: I wonder if they read it. That's where they get their magic powers from.
Jack: Maybe. There's definitely a reason to hide it.
Cristina: But there's probably books that were part of the Bible at some point that they took out, and now we no longer have it. But there's probably, like a single copy out there that we can get it, that version of it or whatever, probably in the Vatican. Okay, the next question is, what happens to the tribal people who die Never knowing anything about Christ.
Jack: That's a huge problem. Because it's the same question about like a baby dies.
Cristina: Yes. If a baby dies, do they, do.
Jack: They go to heaven or h***? Like somebody who doesn't know about God.
Cristina: It's not their fault that they don't know.
Jack: And there's nothing they could have done to improve the situation with the knowledge of God. Because they don't have the knowledge of God.
Cristina: Yes. So. So then what happens to them? They go to h***?
Jack: Well, in theory. But would God punish somebody who's ignorant?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: I don't know. He's that type of God.
Jack: Well, early Bible God is.
Cristina: Oh yes. That specific God is the one that's gonna go around killing anyone because he likes to. Unless you think he's gone because of this new God. Like they're not both existing at once.
Jack: Know, maybe there were two gods, maybe there was one God who changed. I don't know.
Cristina: So you think they're going to heaven or. I guess they're not going to heaven, but they're not going to h*** is the point.
Jack: I don't know if God. It's possible that God would punish random people, but like we don't have any reason to think he would or reason to think he would. The problem with this question is it doesn't give us further context, it doesn't give us further information. Like based on what would we think other than the fact that these people are ignorant?
Cristina: Yeah, I don't know. But I do know he made people to punish them. Not that these are those people, but he made random people so that they would go to h***.
Jack: Yes. If you are a Jehovah's Witness. Oh, you're a Jehovah's Witness. Everybody but the 23,000 people who've been pre selected before the existence of any human go to h***.
Cristina: Okay. Because there is a story that he does say he had. He does admit that he made someone just so that they'd go to h***.
Jack: Really? I don't remember that.
Cristina: Some evil king or something, he made him to just go to h***, but just for fun, I guess. Anyway, the next question. Do people get second chances if they mess up?
Jack: And direly depends on which religion. Wait, if they mess up and die early. You can't die early.
Cristina: Can't die early. I don't know how that makes sense, but that's what this person said. I don't know what they mean by die early.
Jack: Die ahead of some. I don't know. You can't defy destiny.
Cristina: Yeah. If you're gonna die. You're gonna die if you're supposed to die.
Jack: Yeah. If there's a God and his plan is immaculate, you're gonna die when his plan suggests you're gonna die.
Cristina: Even if you see like a baby dying, you're like, oh, it died too early for God. It's like, this is the right time.
Jack: Yeah. This was part of the schedule.
Cristina: Yeah. It's a harsh schedule, but yeah.
Jack: Yeah. So it's impossible to die ahead of time. But if you did somehow die ahead of time, you would just, I don't know. Dead.
Cristina: Yeah, you'd be dead. And you go wherever you're supposed to go.
Jack: Unless it depends on the religion. You could, in theory, go to purgatory.
Cristina: Purgatory, where you can make up the.
Jack: Difference and see if you deserve better.
Cristina: Yes. And there is a question about is H*** immediate or is there a purgatory?
Jack: Well, the Bible strictly suggests that h***, whether or not there's a purgatory, isn't immediate. You would go to rest until everybody dies. When the rapture happens, then you come back from the dead.
Cristina: You're asleep. Right. This isn't like you're in your body.
Jack: Until, okay, you to you. A second goes by, okay. And you are dead in that period of time. Then the rapture happens, Then you get brought back and you get given a second chance. Then.
Cristina: Okay. And then who knows?
Jack: Well, then Earth becomes h*** to anybody.
Cristina: On the second rupture, Earth becomes h***. That's gonna be awesome. So h*** isn't a location right now or. It is a location.
Jack: No, it's not.
Cristina: It's not a location. Oh. And then we'll become a location. Okay, that's cool. But the next question, if God does exist, why are there other religions around the world?
Jack: Because people need something that reflects their culture to identify with.
Cristina: So there's multiple gods.
Jack: Yeah. And they're more or less the same thing. They have all the same basic principles across the board.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Every religion ever made. So it's arguable that it's just cultural differences. Really.
Cristina: Yeah. Cultural differences is. Yeah. But in the end of the day, same God.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: The next question is, if God exists and Christianity only started a few thousand years ago, how do we know that he created us since the planet and humans in general are much older?
Jack: Alright, Christianity isn't even that old. If there is a God, Christianity has nothing to do with that God other than the fact that Christianity is just another version of talking about that same God who is probably here before humans and then made humans and Then that just means every religion ever is based on that same one God being talked about differently. Yes, that's pretty much it.
Cristina: Yeah. God existed, then we existed, then we learned to write, and then we wrote.
Jack: And then we wrote about God.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So maybe there's a single God and there are many, many cultures that wrote about that God in different ways.
Cristina: Yes, that's it. That's it. That's explaining all religion.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: The next question is, why does God allow death and suffering among innocent people? Because he likes it.
Jack: Yeah, cuz he likes it old school. God loved murder. He loved people making sacrifices to him. He loved shooting fire from the sky and scorching people alive. He loved drowning everybody simultaneously, just watching them gargle their last breaths as water enters their lungs and they suffer gradually spending the time in the water, slowly dying. Animals too, just in general. He was like, oh yeah, this is my jam.
Cristina: Even though he was less murdery in the second version, he was still a bit murdery.
Jack: God is all about that murder.
Cristina: Yeah, he enjoys it. It's fun.
Jack: Yeah. God definitely likes taking lives.
Cristina: I mean, maybe by now he's bored. I don't think so, though. It's still happening, so he loves it.
Jack: I mean, I don't think he's doing the current ones, but then again, the argument is, was he even doing the old school ones? Was that just us covering by saying God did it?
Cristina: Oh, that could be it, I guess. Yes, God did it. He killed all those people. I don't know, I was gonna say in the school, but that's horrible. No.
Jack: In what school? In those Christian schools, God killed all the Asian. Asian? All the middle. Not even Middle Eastern. All the natives, the natives, all the Native Americans.
Cristina: He did that. That is so crazy.
Jack: God doesn't like Native Americans.
Cristina: Oh, that's so horrible. That is so horrible. Okay, the next question is the rebellion against God is just dumb. God, who is all knowing, should have known that a rebellion was about to happen. Why didn't he just go to Lucifer and talk to him about it?
Jack: Because God is not all knowing.
Cristina: Or he knew and he wants to fight. He likes fighting. That's the thing.
Jack: He didn't know.
Cristina: He didn't know.
Jack: There's no way he would have known. It's not that he likes fighting because again, these angels believe they can take him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: God is not about to just enter a fight. He's gonna lose and then lose control of the universe.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So the fact that the angels think they could take him means they might be able to take him.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which is another argument on top of the fact that he didn't know a rebellion would form.
Cristina: And this rebellion hasn't happened yet, though.
Jack: No.
Cristina: So it's gonna happen. And they're preparing. Like, what does he have to prepare prepare for? But he is preparing, I'm assuming, who got it. Yeah, I guess he's training his. The angels he's got left, I guess, for this war. The next question. What's with the whole no sex before marriage? Why would God care about you having sex before some meaningless binding contract?
Jack: That's a really weird one. Because it's, like, further proof that he's a demigod, not an omniscient God. Because what the h*** would it matter to an omniscient God when you do anything?
Cristina: Yes. Like, what does it mean to him? What does marriage mean to him?
Jack: This is actually a really good argument for the Bible being written by men and not inspired by any holy being of any nature, but rather just by some guy who was like, well, if I make a law, then I can have my way.
Cristina: Why would some man want this, though?
Jack: Because you own the woman at that point. That was also part of marriage.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah. It's like, you know, people want to f***, and you also want to f***, so you put it into law. The only way you can f*** is if you are my property.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Then you'll want to become the property of somebody. Because you're h****.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And you want to f*** without going to h***.
Cristina: Scaring people with h***. To not have sex.
Jack: Not to not have sex. To allow you to choose when you have sex forever.
Cristina: Ah. Well, yeah.
Jack: It's written by Mel.
Cristina: Because I don't think God would care. I don't. But who knows? Maybe God would then care.
Jack: It's just people.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's just the people who wrote the Bible who give too strong of a f*** and want to control women in general. It's a very misogynistic book.
Cristina: Mm. Wow. The next question is, if God is represented as a loving being, why does he let things like pandemics, natural disasters, illnesses, and financial crises happen? Crises?
Jack: Because he doesn't care.
Cristina: He doesn't care. What are you talking about?
Jack: Like, a real God wouldn't give a s***.
Cristina: A real God wouldn't. But would he?
Jack: I don't know. If he's a demigod. I don't know. He still wouldn't give a s***. Like, what would he even be able to do? He couldn't stop.
Cristina: I guess he could care. He just wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: He can't do anything as the demigod that we know. And if he was a real God, then he wouldn't care.
Jack: Yeah. He's either not strong enough to stop the will of a real omniscient God, or he doesn't care.
Cristina: Or he doesn't care. He definitely either one of those options. Yes. The next question is, how do you explain the extreme difference in behavior and temperaments of God in the Old Testament with that of the new one?
Jack: Bipolar disorder.
Cristina: Bipolar.
Jack: Or there's two gods that came to creation at the same time. Maybe they have a daddy God.
Cristina: They have a daddy God, and these.
Jack: Two different gods are themselves different temperaments, and they each have had the earth and its people for different periods of time.
Cristina: Yes. Or the new one was written so much later from the old one. So the style of writing would be so different, you know, Definitely a possibility. Possibility. But nah. He just changed his ways.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: There's no way. But that makes sense. Right?
Jack: It could definitely be the case because one, the writing styles were very different, and two, the. Not just the writing styles, but the information itself passed down could have been so warped by now that they're like. Well, I think this is more like what God would do.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. Change over time.
Jack: Like stories do.
Cristina: Like stories do. Yep.
Jack: Like Jehovah goes through the hero's journey, where he goes from this douchey guy and improves over time as he experiences certain things. Like the death of his own son.
Cristina: Oh, that changed him.
Jack: That changes. Changes him for the better.
Cristina: Yeah. But also, making that son changed him a lot too, I guess.
Jack: Yeah. Having a son and then, watching his son die.
Cristina: Mm. Your son being part of him. So he must have felt some of that. I don't know how that.
Jack: I don't think literally his son is part of him. I think there's no difference between his son being part of him as your parents being part of you.
Cristina: Oh, okay. That could be it. Yes. The next question is, why does Christianity seem to view the pursuit of novelty as evil?
Jack: Because then people think for their own. If they get additional new information, then the church can't manipulate you, which is sort of their whole point.
Cristina: Yes. You're here because you want to be manipulated.
Jack: Yeah, pretty much.
Cristina: If that's what you're here for.
Jack: The church's whole purpose is to brainwash and control people.
Cristina: Yes. And there are people who are looking for that. They need that in their lives.
Jack: Yeah. Which is fine.
Cristina: Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that if you at least know I guess it's a little better.
Jack: Is it?
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: They don't want you to know.
Cristina: They don't want you to know. Yeah, that's true. But if you did want that. I don't know.
Jack: Then you'd look for it and find it.
Cristina: Yeah. And find it through Christianity. Yeah.
Jack: It's not like there's a tremendous effort to hide anything.
Cristina: Yeah. The next question is, what does it mean to surrender to God?
Jack: I have no idea. I think it's like committing to be a slave.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Like you're opting into giving him everything at all times and obeying all his orders, always without question, without a doubt.
Cristina: It's becoming a slave, becoming a slave.
Jack: It's opting into slavery.
Cristina: Yeah. For him. So you can go to heaven. I think that's the goal. Yep. Is that the only goal? What is that? That's such a lame life. I don't know. I mean, you don't want to go to h***. I guess the next question is, how do you know if you're saved or are being saved? I haven't really been able to tell, but ever since coming closer to God, I've been more caring and loving towards people, but I still don't know if I'm being saved or that Jesus is with me.
Jack: You cannot know if you're being saved. You have to assume that you're doing everything right and continue trying to do everything right.
Cristina: You're supposed to be saved right now?
Jack: No. Oh, not really. You do things so that in the.
Cristina: Future you're supposed to be saved. So that's the after death thing then?
Jack: I guess. Or that is what death is, the saving part.
Cristina: Oh. Oh. If you're chosen, you're one of the chosen for heaven. You're saved.
Jack: Yeah, I guess.
Cristina: I think so. The next question is, do Christians believe animals have souls?
Jack: They do not.
Cristina: They don't?
Jack: No. Because humans are special. We didn't evolve from each other in Christianity.
Cristina: Do we?
Jack: Souls are just a human thing.
Cristina: That's a human thing. And God gave us those souls.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Okay. Do they mention that at all? Is soul even a word in the Bible?
Jack: I think so, yeah.
Cristina: Okay. Because I know the Holy Spirit thing, but I don't know really about.
Jack: Yeah, the soul is mentioned in the Bible.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Because when he made Adam and Eve, it doesn't sound like he mentions. And then I put the soul in them or something.
Jack: Yeah. That's interesting.
Cristina: Unless they didn't have souls, but I.
Jack: Don'T know, maybe they were. Rough draft.
Cristina: Without a soul until they sinned. Then they were given souls.
Jack: Maybe that's the whole thing. Maybe soul is like sin.
Cristina: Well, then that means Lucifer gave us souls.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: What the next question is. There are hundreds of religions worldwide, and Christianity alone has plenty of sub religions. They all seem to think that they're the right one and judge others for not being like them. Every religion has its own amount of proof. How can we say who is right?
Jack: We can't. That's why there are so many. If we could say who was right, nobody would be following any other religion. We'd just be following the fact that one of them is right.
Cristina: Also, stop judging others. That's a huge thing. I don't know why in Christianity, it's such a big deal to judge. Why they judge everyone because Christians sin.
Jack: More than any other group of people who believe in a God.
Cristina: Judging is a sin. Christians stop doing it.
Jack: It's funny, because it's not a sin in every religion, but it's like one of the big ones in Christianity.
Cristina: It's a big one. Yes. Jesus hates judgment. He said that's his job.
Jack: Not even.
Cristina: That's his father's job or his father's job. Okay. It's his father's job.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: I think one other person gets the judge, but I don't remember who it was.
Jack: St. Patrick.
Cristina: Oh, was St. Patrick.
Jack: I think it was St. Patrick.
Cristina: He did ask for something. Okay, well, just. Just those people's jobs to judge.
Jack: Yeah. St. Patrick gets to decide who goes to h*** and who doesn't.
Cristina: Yeah. He asked for it and he got it actually, just for Ireland. He's not judging us.
Jack: Yeah. He's not judging anybody else.
Cristina: Yeah. So there's that. But stop judging. The next question is the church has changed so much throughout history, and it's almost completely different from how it started. They've been wrong and admitted it multiple times. How do we know if something the church is opposed to today won't be welcomed in the next decade? We won't.
Jack: We won't. It's always gonna adapt because science is always gonna make advancements, and the church is always gonna grapple only onto the things that science hasn't proven.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it will always be wrong, but it'll be wrong only about what we've proven factually.
Cristina: And it will change.
Jack: Yeah. It'll keep changing and adapting.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The Bible, religion has been quite different from 2,000 years ago. There was way more things that were right. It's just as time goes by and we make advancements and we learn and we Understand more.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That the church has to come out and be like, well, we can't f****** argue at this point anymore.
Cristina: Yeah, just take the Bible as a. Stories of things to learn from, but not really.
Jack: Like it's a book of morality.
Cristina: Yeah. It's not really telling you what's right and wrong with our lives.
Jack: Yeah, it's not telling you what's right.
Cristina: Or wrong or what's real or what's real for sure.
Jack: That's the argument here. You can't be right or wrong about like philosophy. It's when they're like, this is what the world. No, you could be right or wrong about science.
Cristina: Oh, yes, you can.
Jack: Exactly.
Cristina: What you can. Yes, yes.
Jack: Quite specifically what you could be right or wrong about.
Cristina: I feel like you can't be like, with what reality is. Like if reality says, yes, this is right. You can't be saying yes or no to something that science in that type of way. The next question is, how do we know Christianity is true and the Christian God is the one true God without reference to the Bible?
Jack: I feel like this is the same question over and over. These people are asking the same s***. It's basically, there's no way to know. There's no way to know anything. Faith is the point.
Cristina: Well, people need more than faith, I guess.
Jack: Then you shouldn't be religious because it's failing you if faith isn't enough. Because faith is the only thing.
Cristina: It is the only thing. Yeah, it's.
Jack: If there was an answer, you wouldn't need science. God is real and he could just tell you.
Cristina: Yeah, it's not even about doing right or wrong. It's not about any of it. It's only about faith, really.
Jack: Only about faith. Just have faith that what he says is correct and that what's in the book is what he said.
Cristina: And that's it.
Jack: That's it. You don't need anything else. How do we know? You don't.
Cristina: You don't.
Jack: You don't.
Cristina: You're not supposed to.
Jack: You're not supposed to. It's not meant for you to know. It's for you to have faith. Because if you did know, then there'd be no f****** point. Of course you have the answer.
Cristina: Yes, there you go. The next question is, God could create worlds that achieve his aims of glory better than this one. Why did he create this specific one when it mainly provides him suffering and is very insufficient to his go due to sin?
Jack: Right. As compared to what?
Cristina: I don't know, other planets?
Jack: I don't know what is this person comparing to. What other planet have they seen?
Cristina: The one that they've imagined? I don't know. We might be doing the best. Who knows?
Jack: Yeah, we might be doing the best. Maybe God sucks at making planets with life.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we're like, the crowning achievement.
Cristina: Yeah, maybe.
Jack: Humans are really hard and we're, like, the best at it so far.
Cristina: Mm. I mean, we've lived the longest as far as we can tell.
Jack: Yeah. Either we live the longest or we're the only s*** as far as we can tell.
Cristina: Yeah. So there you go.
Jack: So either there's no reference point or we're doing the best.
Cristina: We're doing the best for sure. Maybe. Or. I don't know. There's a world of cat people who are doing it better, but they got magic, so they're very sinful, so it doesn't even matter.
Jack: Why do they have us? Which was the original question.
Cristina: Oh, yeah, because we are the best in that one.
Jack: Not if they have cat people with magical powers and crap.
Cristina: But the magic is make. They're even more sinful than us because they're using magic.
Jack: Well, no. At that point, God allowed it, if this is casual, to have magic.
Cristina: Oh, okay. In their world. Okay, the next question is, I know God wants me to live in his name, but what does that mean exactly? Do I need to give up things like video games or violent music in order to rightly live in his name?
Jack: I don't know. I guess it's different for everybody.
Cristina: It's different for. It's whatever you think God needs you to do.
Jack: Yeah. Not what a preacher tells you.
Cristina: Not what a pre. Yeah, he doesn't know.
Jack: Priest. They don't know what he knows. Nobody knows.
Cristina: They're not even following the rules that they tell you to follow.
Jack: Follow? No, they're just doing. I mean, I guess they kind of are. God is kind of crazy.
Cristina: What?
Jack: All the raping and murder is kind of right up Jehovah's alley, huh? If anybody's doing it. Kind of accurate to Jehovah. Yeah, Old school Jehovah is probably Catholic Church.
Cristina: What? But he.
Jack: Murder, rape, slavery, that's all old school. God, he loved that.
Cristina: But that's against the. What. What are those things called? The rules.
Jack: The commandments.
Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure no killing and no reaping are part of that.
Jack: God was down with all of that. Jehovah was down with all of it, but not.
Cristina: Why would he give you rules to not do that if he was down with it?
Jack: He was down with you doing it. If you told him to. If he told you to.
Cristina: Okay, then who were those rules for?
Jack: I don't know. Like, one of the literal things it says in the Bible is that if somebody were to take somebody else's wife, he has rights of rape or some s*** like that that's in the Bible. Like, rape is cool with God.
Cristina: Yeah, except periods aren't. You're not supposed to have sex while you're in your period.
Jack: I think that's such a guy thing to write.
Cristina: You're supposed to be in the bathtub the whole time or something.
Jack: Why would Jehovah give a s*** unless he's out here f****** women like Zeus, a demigod.
Cristina: Oh, yeah, he definitely. He definitely did that.
Jack: And he's like, I don't want no period blood.
Cristina: Yes. Yeah.
Jack: Well, I got some news for you, Jehovah. If you can walk through mud, you can f*** through blood.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay. Can he walk through mud?
Jack: I don't know. He could walk on water.
Cristina: The next question is, how does prayer work? For example, say my friend is sick and we pray for his healing. Wouldn't that mean if I don't pray, he doesn't heal? Isn't the power actually God's? God doesn't need us to ask or tell him what to do. God knows he needs healing because he is sick. What's the point of prayer if I have no power over what actually happens? If I pray, he could die. If I don't, he could die.
Jack: That's a legit question. Because the point of prayer, according to how it's taught to people, it's wrong. Prayer should, in theory, do nothing then, because God has a plan. Allegedly, the Christian God has a plan. Jehovah has a plan that's immaculate, it's perfect. It already considers every possibility that could ever exist, that could ever happen, it could ever take place, all at the same time. So whatever's happening to this person was always gonna happen to this person. Whether or not you pray, your prayer has no effect.
Cristina: Does the Bible. Does prayer come from the Bible, though?
Jack: I don't remember.
Cristina: Or is that something the church came up with?
Jack: I don't remember. But if God's plan was perfect, prayer would mean nothing. Yeah, because what, you just asking nicely is gonna be enough for him to be like, well, my perfect, flawless plan will be altered for this human who doesn't understand perfection. But ask nicely.
Cristina: Yes, but if this God has no idea what he's doing, maybe he will listen to what you're saying.
Jack: That is the only instance in which it makes sense. In which case God is again, a demigod. He'll just take random advice and like, can you help him? It's like, I mean, I guess.
Cristina: Yep, maybe he'll help you. Yeah.
Jack: So that is a huge problem that does exist within religion. The point of prayer, specifically Christianity, there's prayers for other religions, but Christianity has huge holes in the logic there.
Cristina: And in. In Catholic. In Catholicism.
Jack: Catholicism.
Cristina: In Catholicism. In Catholicism, you can also pray to saints and things like that. Like you pray to anyone. You don't even have to pray to God. You pray to Mary if you feel like it. Yeah, like that's a very interesting and.
Jack: Odd choice, but I think prayer is the real use for prayer is a form of meditation to just feel more connected and clear your mind.
Cristina: Yeah. I feel like that's probably what it was originally made, at least for other religions when they have prayer involved, that's seems like what they're doing.
Jack: Yeah. Before the Christians got a hold of it and turned it into some whole other s***.
Cristina: Yeah. But so pray if you feel like you need prayer. I guess.
Jack: Yeah. I would recommend everybody pray. You don't even have to believe in God, just pray to something.
Cristina: Yeah. And you might feel better, maybe 100%. The next question is, witnesses are only mentioned once in the Bible and are not mentioned in any other non biblical source. How can I trust that it actually occurred if I represented a document to court to prove someone's guilty, but only gave one source that was written by someone who was trying to convey the same message? No one would believe me without external validation.
Jack: That's real. And that just goes back to how do I prove. No, you don't. You don't. You don't prove anything. You'll never prove anything.
Cristina: No.
Jack: You have to just have faith.
Cristina: Yes. You just have to have faith.
Jack: Yes. People have a problem with that, it seems. How do I prove this? Well, it wouldn't be religion if you could prove it.
Cristina: Yeah, but they're always trying to prove it, though, to other people. That's how they convert people.
Jack: Yeah. They're totally wrong in trying to prove anything. Because the point is there's no proof.
Cristina: There's no proof. You just have to have faith.
Jack: Yes. The point is a lack of proof. That is literally the point of religion. No proof.
Cristina: No proof. I was telling you there's proof. They're lying to you.
Jack: Yes. Anybody trying to find proof is a liar.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because how are you going to have proof of what? How? And then where's the faith? If you proved there's God?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You don't need faith if you can.
Cristina: Prove there's a God in the Bible. There's like creatures though, right? Like fictional. Not fictional, I guess, but like dragons and phoenixes and stuff like that?
Jack: Yeah, there's weird s*** like that all over the place.
Cristina: Okay, that's interesting. Unrelated, but just very strange. The next question is, a murderer kills a lady who is good. Then that lady goes into eternal bliss faster than if she had just waited to die. The murderer is caught and given the death penalty. The murderer would go into h*** and be tortured for all of time for letting a woman go into eternal bliss for all of time faster. Where is the logic in that?
Jack: If you believe in religion, in Christianity, then all of this was meant to happen anyways. It was part of some weird bigger scheme we cannot comprehend.
Cristina: Yes. God made the murderer to kill that lady.
Jack: Yeah. And he made that lady to be killed by the murderer.
Cristina: Yes. And he wants her to go to heaven, maybe. And the murderer to h***.
Jack: Just cause.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's all part of the planet. Yeah. Just because s**** and the giggles.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The fact that anybody goes to h*** when there's a perfect plan, that's hilarious to me.
Cristina: That is.
Jack: Now, if you don't believe in religion and you are looking at this from the outside thinking, guy kills lady, she goes to like, okay, she goes to heaven, he goes to h***. He's not going to h*** for sending her to eternal bliss. He's going to h*** for ending her life on earth. This is just some ignorant atheist bullshit. This is stupid question formed by a stupid atheist. Yes, well, he sent her to eternal bliss.
Cristina: Yeah. But come on, he ruined her life that she had.
Jack: So you have always wanted a car and there is this stack of money you have that you don't want to use, and I go ahead and I steal your entire stack of money, but I leave behind the car you've always wanted. Well, you got the car you wanted. You're happy now. But you also didn't want to lose the money.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So you're sad now. There's still good and bad.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It didn't cease to be the fact that you f****** had the money and you wanted to keep the money and I forced you to have the car. Even if you ultimately still wanted the car, you still lost, still feel bad.
Cristina: About it because all that hard work.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: You never got to actually do the thing you want to do.
Jack: The money is your life. And it's like there was so much life to be lived and then you died.
Cristina: It's Kind of the journey thing like you're supposed to.
Jack: Yeah, you're gonna enjoy the ride.
Cristina: You're gonna.
Jack: Yeah, you're gonna get to heaven anyways. Yeah, so like what the f*** cutting.
Cristina: The ride off is. It's. That's the wrong here.
Jack: Yeah, but this is the point. Atheists are just as stupid as theists. They're all morons who are using half baked arguments to defend and argue anything. Nobody thinks.
Cristina: No, they think enough to think they know.
Jack: Yeah, I guess they forget that the Dunning Kruger effect exists and that's when you think you're the smartest person in the room, but you're usually the dumbest.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. And so in reality, the smarter you are, the more you know. You don't know.
Cristina: And this person, this person definitely thinks they know.
Jack: Yes. He's like, I did it. That says intelligent as being. Can God both make a rock that's unmovable and move the rock? It's like you're f****** moron.
Cristina: How dare you.
Jack: How dare you. It's stupid. It's so dumb. It's so unthought out.
Cristina: They need more friends. No they don't. I mean more people to talk to about different ideas. I guess.
Jack: Yeah, this isn't worked out enough. Yeah, it's super dumb.
Cristina: It's super dumb.
Jack: Yeah, I reject your question.
Cristina: It's been rejected. Yeah, goes to the loser pile.
Jack: To the losers pile. Yeah, we should make a loser's pile.
Cristina: There you go. That's how bad your question was. Sorry. Anyway, the next question is why is the Earth significant? Why would Earth be inherited by Christians and not the heavens themselves, stars and galaxies? Why does one planet matter more than the trillions of others? Would you still be bound by the arrow of time or will you navigate everything in a higher dimensional perspective?
Jack: Not sure how we got the dimensions from that, but. Okay, first nobody said there weren't people on the other planets also made by God. Yes, that's not written anywhere.
Cristina: He didn't say Earth is the only one.
Jack: Yeah, and why would he give you a book about people from some other planet?
Cristina: Yeah, that wouldn't matter to you.
Jack: That wouldn't matter to you. There's no proof that there aren't people on other planets also worshiping exactly the same God who in theory is everywhere.
Cristina: Yes, there's just other books.
Jack: There's other books. They got books relative to their societies and cultures written by the people who lead and teach them.
Cristina: But what with the whole galaxy? No, dimensions. What was he talking about? Dimensions?
Jack: I don't know. What we? I don't.
Cristina: What the f*** would we.
Jack: Would we still be bound by the arrow of time? Or would we navigate everything in a higher dimensional perspective? Like, what the f*** does that have to do with anything?
Cristina: Does he mean like once we're angels are going to rule everything? I don't know. I don't know. I think that's more God related, not human related. I don't know.
Jack: Yeah, that guy went elsewhere with it.
Cristina: Yeah. The next question is, where is the Garden of Eden? The Bible has written with very little geographical knowledge since most of the world had yet to be discovered. But now it's the opposite. We have mapped the entire globe and settled all across it. And anywhere that there aren't humans living. Humans have been there and we have seen every part of it from satellites too.
Jack: That is so unbelievably, astoundingly uninformed. Why the f*** do they think we've explored the whole planet?
Cristina: Because satellites, I don't know, the satellites have done it.
Jack: That's super, super dumb. Like they think we've been to everywhere on the planet. No, that's so dumb.
Cristina: Like there are places, even if satellites captured everything, we definitely haven't been there.
Jack: Yeah. And we haven't like personally looked at every inch of satellite scans.
Cristina: Yeah, there's a bunch of islands that.
Jack: Are just not found.
Cristina: So many islands.
Jack: Yeah, there's islands just not found.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Even with satellite imaging, you'd have to scan the whole planet and find every.
Cristina: Single bit of tiny. Yeah, we can't tell how small the lands are there. Like.
Jack: Yeah. And there is a location that's expected, suspected to have been the, the Garden. Garden of Eden. I'm not sure if it was in the islands, the like Virgin Islands area or the African equivalent of that or something like that. It's in one of those places. It's just a little island suspected to fit the descriptions of the Garden of Eden.
Cristina: Okay, so there's some guesses to where the island is.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Or the Garden coup. And one day we'll get there.
Jack: Well, there's actually a conspiracy that the Garden of Eden is within the Bermuda Triangle and that's why it's being like, that's being protected and anything trying to get to it is disappearing to somewhere else. Because the Garden of Eden has been literally moved from space and time. It was a private paradise for perfect beings.
Cristina: Oh, that's a great one. What, what if that is the case? Oh man. And there's no way to prove it, I guess because we can't really do Anything?
Jack: Yeah, we have a weird anomaly on the planet that just like everything vanishes into.
Cristina: Yep, it's in there. I'm sure it is. What? That's awesome.
Jack: Yeah. Like, what the f*** even is the Bermuda Triangle?
Cristina: I don't know, but that's Bermuda.
Jack: Is it the Bermuda. The Bermuda Triangle?
Cristina: Yep. No, you said it two different ways. It sounds the same.
Jack: Yeah, whatever, but the Bermuda Triangle. I have no idea what the f*** is really going on there. Magnets.
Cristina: Magnets and aliens and time travel and the Garden of Eden.
Jack: Yeah, all of it.
Cristina: All of it. Many Christians I know accuse non believers of having hardened hearts, yet won't listen to anything that contradicts their beliefs. Could this also be dangerous? If someone is in an unhealthy relationship because of this religion, they wouldn't get help or even accept it. They hold tightly onto these beliefs and won't accept help since they might see it as temptation. Yeah, it sounds dangerous.
Jack: Believing anything too hard is dangerous. Believing atheism too hard is dangerous.
Cristina: It's all dangerous.
Jack: Any extreme is bad.
Cristina: Any extreme is bad.
Jack: Yes, that's it doesn't matter what you're talking about.
Cristina: Gotta somehow be balanced.
Jack: Well, eating is great. It'll keep you alive also. Eat too much and you might die. Eat too little and you might die. Yeah, air is really good. You need it. Get too little, you will die. Get too much, you will die.
Cristina: Yeah, there's no case that. That's not true. For there's gotta be something.
Jack: There's nothing that doesn't acid. Lsd, lsd. You can do f***, tons of LSD and nothing would happen. Then again, who knows, right?
Cristina: What if they.
Jack: If you can drink a bucket of lsd, I'm sure you die.
Cristina: But there's no too little.
Jack: There's no too little known. There's no such thing.
Cristina: Unless not having it is like. And you'll die in this. And by not having it, it doesn't change your life in the way it should change your life. I don't know.
Jack: There's no. That's a one directional thing.
Cristina: Oh, okay. I guess some things do have. I don't know.
Jack: That's not a good example.
Cristina: That's not a good example. Ignore that example. But you know what we mean. The Garden of Eden was described as a wonderful garden of peace and love. Then one day, a snake whispered into Eve's ear, making her want to eat the apple. Eve shared it with Adam. God threw Adam and Eve out of the garden, which was basically heaven on earth for doing something that they wouldn't have done anyway, if it wasn't for that serpent. If God is all knowing, why didn't he punish the serpent? He did.
Jack: God, this is another stupid f****** question.
Cristina: Well, he did, though. The serpent had no, that's not the point.
Jack: If God is all knowing, why was he surprised?
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: That Eve ate the apple. What the f*** is this guy looking at the wrong problem for? Well, why didn't punish the serpent? Dude? Why did he put the serpent there?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The f*** do you mean why he punished. Why is the serpent there?
Cristina: Why did it exist?
Jack: Why did he make a fruit if he knew they were going to eat it?
Cristina: Why? Yes. Why would he even have that in the garden?
Jack: He made them to get punished.
Cristina: He made. Yes.
Jack: He just wanted to punish them.
Cristina: Yeah. Like why? That's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. It's like leaving your child with a piece of chocolate in front of them and like walking away after saying, you better not eat it or whatever. Yeah, those weird tests.
Jack: Some kids pass it.
Cristina: Some kids pass it.
Jack: But then if God is waiting to see if they're gonna pass it, that's because he doesn't know the answer.
Cristina: Yeah, that's true.
Jack: Which again is just an argument for being a demigod.
Cristina: Yep. Man, he is a demigod.
Jack: He has to be. It's too much evidence.
Cristina: Yep.
Jack: In the Bible. Like the Bible itself tells you he's a demigod.
Cristina: And just because he doesn't like other gods doesn't make him less of a demigod.
Jack: Yeah. And just because he doesn't like other gods doesn't mean there aren't other gods. Yeah, that kind of quite literally means there are other gods.
Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. He pretty much tells you there's other God by telling you don't believe in other gods.
Jack: Yep. Because don't follow the other gods. Yeah, don't follow the other gods.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What? Why? Why do you care?
Cristina: Why do you care?
Jack: Yeah. So that's kind of crazy and irrational.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Couple of different levels.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: People don't look at the right problems. Religion is problematic. Anyways. Anyway.
Cristina: Did we convert you?
Jack: Did we convert you? We're definitely running out of time. I hope we converted them. If you are super Christian now, if you've converted to Christianity, if you've been.
Cristina: Converted thanks to us, let us know.
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Jack: It could be on the screen.
Cristina: Know how to edit that stuff? Like, is that complicated?
Jack: I don't f****** know. Maybe.
Cristina: I don't know.
Jack: I give props to them. I don't know.
Cristina: Press the button on my top. On the top of my head.
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Cristina: I think it's only him.
Jack: That's weird, right? Only Joe Rogan has video on Spotify.
Cristina: Unless you're making Spotify money like that. And I don't think anyone will.
Jack: I mean, they dished out a hundred million dollars for Rogan.
Cristina: Yeah. They gotta do the same for Chappelle. Isn't he gonna have a podcast?
Jack: So that's interesting. I wonder. I wonder where his podcast is gonna be.
Cristina: Yeah. Who's gonna pay and how much are they gonna pay?
Jack: Or is that podcast. It's probably out already.
Cristina: Oh, maybe it is.
Jack: Probably gotta find that. Check it out. Anyways, you guys can definitely find out more things about religion. There are many things about religion and.
Cristina: Theology and philosophy and science and etc.
Jack: All on the Just Conversation podcast. Rambling. All the rambling on. Us rambling about the conversations.
Cristina: Also, you talk with guests about all these topics.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually, like, circle back to a guest and be like, do you believe in God? Yeah, I do. Or I don't, or I'm not really sure where I stand. Which is usually the most common answer. Like, I don't know, know, whatever.
Cristina: And then you convert them to the opposite.
Jack: Yeah, I made a Christian become an atheist. I made an atheist become a Christian, and I turned somebody into a spiritualist.
Cristina: So I think you turn a Christian into an atheist and that same atheist into a Christian again.
Jack: Yes. Because fun.
Cristina: Because fun.
Jack: Because fun. So if you want to see some of that stuff, go check out our other content, our other episodes where we talk about those things and we discuss relationship on all kinds of context. And how many ums can you fit? Right.
Cristina: Yes. No, that's not.
Jack: That's bad TV or whatever they say.
Cristina: Is it bad tv.
Jack: Bad radio.
Cristina: Bad radio.
Jack: It's bad TV as well.
Cristina: Oh, I guess so. And like, like, like, like us now.
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Cristina: I don't know, like it's the one day where the new officer's in, so they're just assuming, okay, the guy who's sitting there.
Jack: But look, to be fair, can't a complete random show up in a robe and then sit there? And if it's a new officer, what if your whole job was to con these people and let your homie off? So you set it up in such a perfect way that you got the judge who was supposed to be here replacing the old one. Cuz like the old one is sick. You found out. You waited you sink day or they were going on vacation and you knew and you're like, I'm gonna put the trial for that day so that this guy's coming. I don't know. So you found out that this judge is gonna go on vacation and you figured out you first became somebody who works in the building just to change the date of when that court of when that situation would face your friend. Then when that situation does face your friend that you selected, you've also decided to get the replacement judge off of the case by saying there's another judge coming in, which is you secretly, okay, who just shows up in a row and that you knew there was going to be a new officer, so you change shifts around.
Cristina: What about everyone else that works there daily? They don't know. The transcriber doesn't recognize.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: Are they new?
Jack: Well, this brings my point then. Then why do you need the robe? You're defeating your own argument at that point. Why do you need the robe? If somebody's going to be able to.
Cristina: Like nasam no, they should just have a little but ID that says I'm Judge. My name is Judge.
Jack: Y my name is Judge.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The Just Conversation podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.