Rambling 242: The Adam & Eve Timeline
/What is the exact timeline of events important to the story of the Sea People? What is the goal of all their scientific research? Who was involved in helping and when? The duo unpack the timeline of events and nail down the order to better understand how the Sea People became so powerful and how they provided extremely advanced tech to powerful other empires around the world.
+Episode Details
- 2.5mil bc First Tools
- 2mil bc El meets Cizin
- El Collects the Fruit of Life
- 156,000bc to Adam
- 150,000bc Primitive Humans
- El Collects the Fruit of Knowledge
- 100,000bc Eve
- 100,000bs Modern Humans
- 10,000bc Jehovah Collects all 3 Fruits
- 7,000bc Maya and Egypt become Advanced
- Year 1 Jesus is Born
- Persian Gulf Oasis Is Abandoned
- Egypt is Abandoned
- Maya is Abandoned
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+Transcript
Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And we've usually got a lot of badass ideas, bruh.
Cristina: Badass ideas.
Jack: Yeah. So listen, last time, last time on Dragon Ball Z, we were discussing a couple of wires that seem to have a cross identity. We had some Mayan individuals, some Egyptian individuals, some Shadow Realm individuals, and we've now come across for the first time the mention of the Forest of Shadows.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Which seems to just have fruits that a man named L2 million years ago came across. Then some mysterious figure, 10,000 years before Christ went ahead and wandered in there and collected a bunch of fruit.
Cristina: Some magical fruits.
Jack: Some magical fruits. Interesting, no?
Cristina: Yes, very. Man. It was Garden of Eden.
Jack: No, the Garden of Eden is a lab.
Cristina: But the fruits. Maybe the fruits were taken to the.
Jack: Garden of Eden, obviously, where Adam and Eve are. Because Adam and Eve are not in the Forest of Shadows. Why do you say?
Cristina: I don't know. Like, maybe they're not in because they were kicked out in the story. So maybe we've been calling it the wrong thing.
Jack: Well, no, we managed to pinpoint the Garden of Eden.
Cristina: How? I don't remember how.
Jack: The whole point of a bunch of what we've done is one, finding out that the Garden of Eden is somehow located in the palace of Alcaraz in the Persian Gulf oasis, but then got moved, which then tells us it's not a location.
Cristina: Get it from what I'm saying is.
Jack: They got the fruit and we just answered that question. They got the. They got the fruit, presumably from the Forest of Shadows.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Not the Garden. No, they got the fruit from the forest. Yes, the Garden is a really happy place based on the Bible, but it's also not even a place based on the data.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Or it is a place, but it's not a garden. That's the code name. It's some botanic facility of some sort where they were growing. And we have botanic specialists like Ix Shell from the Shadow Realm.
Cristina: Weird. Okay.
Jack: That married Zamna in the Mayan civilization and developed highly advanced botanic agriculture. Then presumably a lot of that got implemented.
Cristina: A lot of strange activity.
Jack: Yeah. But it goes to explain how that garden came to be known as the Garden and why the Mayans were so closely related. Because there is something we call the Garden. That lab is green as h***. There's greenery everywhere. Now we have a fruit that came from the shadow realm and a botanist that came from the shadow realm. It makes way more sense now that there is a labor packed with greenery and that that lab is simultaneously the same location where Adam, Eve and likely the genetics that led to the birth of Jesus. Maybe the pregnancy of Maria happened in there.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Not Maria, but Mary.
Cristina: Yeah. No, but you think she might be made from the lab as well?
Jack: She's not made from the lab. Her pregnancy.
Cristina: Oh, okay. Okay.
Jack: Yes, her pregnancy came from the lab the same way. But Adam and Eve aren't even people as far as we know. Those are technology.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So, okay, let us. We've got a couple of episodes without a full fledged review. So let us catch anybody who hasn't been paying attention up and then go through what I have found so we find out. Now I'm trying to do this in chronologic order as far as we know.
Cristina: How far back are you going?
Jack: Well, there's a civilization 2.5 million years ago that we know factually had tools. 2 million years ago, according to Mayan and some Persian Sumerian hieroglyphs and writings, there was a man named L. L travels into the. L travels into the shadow realm and he befriends a creature named Sizen that seems to rule the shadow realm. El gets towed of a forest and they go and they explore a place called the Forest of Shadows. Right? Then we have 10,000 years before Christ, that's 12,000 years ago. And some unnamed individual ventures into the forest. He goes into the shadow realm, goes into the forest and finds the fruits. Well, doesn't find it. Shows up with something with a note or knowledge or document or proof. Just hey, this is what I know factually is there. Can I go get it? And he goes and collects one of every fruit, specifically three fruits. Which confirms our theories about the fruits there being more than two. He then leaves with the fruit. That's all he was there for. We fast forward to about 5,000 and we now have the judge Shemesh, who just kind of wanders occasionally through the forest.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And he takes this without just not knowingly as a way to get to the his workplace. Traveling to his workplace. And he goes through the shadow realm. Somehow there's a gate or something, just an open entrance. He goes through the shadow realm and he crosses the forest and he sees weird trees with weird fruit. But he thinks none of it and becomes familiar with the creatures that there. That don't seem to Bother him and he goes to work and comes back the same way he tells his sister. His sister gets fascinated, shows his sister the forest. His sister plucks a fruit, his sister eats from the fruit. His sister is blasted with information that doesn't exist on their own. His sister becomes obsessed with that sight. Inanna is her name. And they although Shemesh goes through just for work, Inanna goes to explore and she gets to this area where there is a palace in the shadow realm, there's a royal family and there is a duo of botanic sisters that work for the royal family. One of them is called Iksha, which is a prodigy botanist and she befriends Ikshao. Inanna and Iksha are friends and they tell each other stories of where they come from. And they decide to swap places every six months so that they can learn about each other's worlds. Weirdly enough, somehow Ixchel does not land in the Persian Gulf, instead lands in the in Mexico, in the Guatemala Mexico border. Don't know how that happened, but we also know that Mount Kaf connects three points, which is Persia, which is the Mayan civilization or what will be and the shadow realm. After a single visit they decide, no, we want to stay on our sides. I want to be Ixchell. The shadow girl now wants to stay in Earthrealm and Inanna wants to stay in the shadow realm. Okay, fantastic. They become obsessive in the other direction. Meanwhile, simultaneously as this is happening in Persia, there is a movement developing amongst the elites, scientific individuals who have decided to band together and start experimenting for their want and their need to create extremely powerful technologies, extremely powerful energy reserves, extremely powerful ways to acquire energy, not just store it. And all the while there's this really exaggeratedly overpowered godly civilization by comparison that we name the sea People. The rest of Persia does not necessarily get along with them. We don't know this for a fact. We just know that they sort of live in isolation, separate. In the Persian Gulf oasis, the sea people later migrate out of there. But we'll get there. We have the sea people creating heavy technologies, important technologies, using anything and everything that seems to be at their disposal. Having teleportation technology, being able to create different kinds of creatures and sharing this with civilizations that seem to be developing, one of which happens to be the Egyptians that themselves come in contact with Sizen from 2 million years ago and from 10,000 years ago when the guy wandered into the forest and picked the fruit. Citizen was informed of this, and he was informed because when people started wandering he put. Actually, no, the order of this is backwards.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: Because she, Mesh going through the forest is what led to the watch, the gatekeeper and the record keeper being put at the gate. And then that's how we know about the guy taking the fruit. So chamesh was actually 10,000 years ago and then shortly thereafter, which guy is she Mesh? The judge. The judge was 10,000 years ago. So the timelines are a little obscured because actually, I think that she, Mesh and the guy who came to pick up the fruit happened kind of close to each other. So both of Those happened about 10,000 years ago, as opposed to 5,000 years ago. Then we jump forward into the point where 5000 BC we have sizen working with Autumn, which is also a Shadow Realm creature. And we have. And that's working with Sizen has not season. Autumn has his own Naga and so does Ra, which is a leader of that group, by the way. So this Iksho, which is the prodigy, the Naga are a group of people. Actually, we have to jump even further.
Cristina: Back, back to the fairy, to the.
Jack: Fairy realm, where Mab goes ahead and creates the realms and then creates the three sisters that are to give life and predict life and take life and creates Oros, this sort of snake creature thing, and gives them the task of when intelligent civilizations develop, send individuals to watch over and assist in their development and jump forward. The most exaggeratedly overpowered group is the Sea People, who also have a Naga. They have an individual named Jehovah, which at this point we believe is who went to get the fruit. Oh, in the Forest of Shadows, we have the Naga that is with the Mayans. There are two. We have the. Where Iksho goes, Iksho has one and then Idzama has another one. He is the leader of the Earth gods that create the civilization of the Mayans. And we have the Egyptians that have two as well. One belongs to Ra, called Widget, and the other one belongs to Autumn, which is a Shadow Realm leader of sorts, who has a giant, fully developed civilization, decides to join under Ra and continue developing technologies. As far as we know, as far as we can tell, the data suggests that the Egyptians developed incredibly overpowered methods of teleportation and ways of extracting energy and storing energy. We believe they are the originators of the concept that known as Dyson Spheres, and that they teleported themselves into the Great Void before it was the Great Void, and then began capturing stars over there, then teleporting the energy back and storing them using the technology inside the pyramids. Around Giza. Giza itself is the teleportation and reception tool that then sends the energy to the other storage devices.
Cristina: Awesome. I guess the sea people are using that energy.
Jack: The sea people are also using that energy. Whatever other things the Egyptians were working on, they completely stopped working on to focus on this energy management and energy storage. And then the people in the Mayan civilization, after they developed a credibly complex agriculture which also gets used by the sea people, but they stop pushing that further and focus entirely on record keeping. Immense amounts of data storage, storing infinite amounts of data seems to be that becomes your main priority. And they have storage tools now. It seems like all this really advanced technology is all aiming towards assisting the sea people. Everything seems to be aiming towards assisting the sea people. Storing their information, delivering intense amounts of energy. But all these groups were also working on developing some sort of complicated form of life. They abandoned that, and the sea people continued working on that. But also this seems to be the goal of all the beings that become highly evolved throughout always. The Greek gods, AKA those scientists, decided to do the same thing and try a million ways. The Norse, same thing. Everybody was trying to create life, but also it seems everybody was trying to cross the bridge to different realms. Those seem to be the prioritized objectives that people have. Why? Unclear. Yeah, but it seems to be the case.
Cristina: See, there's so much parts. There's just so much parts, so many.
Jack: Moving parts, and they're all connected. We fast forward, we're probably gonna not even do this in criminological order because we got to jump around and think about all different things. So we go and we get to Jesus. This is year one. So the plan goes as follows. Well, let's. Let's start at the beginning of the events leading to Jesus. There is a C person named Mary. Mary is a test subject voluntarily to have a being. She's going to be artificially inseminated using the programs Adam and Eve, which are modified using the fruits obtained from the shadow realm. And the goal is to create a child that can easily cross barriers from dimensions without aid. Perhaps in a way to manipulate their own genetics in the future and be able to give themselves access. Who knows? By the way, I didn't think about that before, but that makes perfect sense. If you can have a biological being. This is why she had to give birth to him. That actually makes a lot of sense because he would then be a genetic being sharing their DNA. Then they just study him and modify their genetics because we already know they have the capacity to do that?
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: Once they modify their genetics to be identical to the genetics of Jesus, then.
Cristina: They can do the same.
Jack: Then they can also cross realms. That actually makes a lot of sense, huh? That's why she had to give birth to him.
Cristina: Did their plans with him succeed?
Jack: No, because Jesus still couldn't enter Elfhame.
Cristina: No, I guess not. He had to die to do it. But that was from other things.
Jack: Well, he had to die to enter the Shadow Realm. He didn't even have clean access across.
Cristina: Okay. Ah, yeah.
Jack: So she gets artificially inseminated using this program called Adam and Eve. The child does in fact have some sort of special abilities that are crossing realms and just crossing large gaps across the universe. It seems not just Earth, but space itself, and not just Earth realm, but every realm. And people are getting visions of the child, of the Persian Gulf oasis, which is a private community and worst of all, of the lab that contains everything that they've worked for.
Cristina: So they gotta get rid of him.
Jack: So they've gotta get rid of him. They devise a plan that makes absolute sense. Mary is going to leave the Persian Gulf, so they cannot have visions of what they're about to do because the child will never be there. They're having visions of the child and where the child is at all points in time. It's not one moment, but visions of him in the future as well. So he can't be anywhere that they're going. They must go somewhere he cannot be. And as a result, people cannot have visions of where he. They move to.
Cristina: Yes. So they leave from.
Jack: Yeah, they send Mary out. She is to go cross into.
Cristina: Across.
Jack: The Middle east and reach Cyprus. Cyprus. She's going to give birth to Jesus and then she's going to get escorted or somehow reach Mount Athos. And from Mount Athos she's going to reach whatever point they're going to that nobody's gonna know. She gets assigned Amadji, which is one of their elites, one of their elites, intellectual and almost wizard like individuals called Joseph. And he is to escort her along the way. They cross Bethlehem, where there is a huge conflict happening and it becomes too dangerous for them to cross. So they redirect themselves and land at Nazareth, where she ends up giving birth to Jesus. Problem? This wasn't supposed to play out this way. But now she refuses to leave. She's gonna stay with Jesus until the end of his life, which she does. Then she goes to Cyprus after he is dead. We know how those events play out, more or less. And she goes into Cyprus from there ends up at Athos. And from Athos, poof, gone forever. As expected, in that time, the sea people moved their entire civilization from the Persian Gulf oasis in the palace of Alcaraz and went to right off the coast of Bimini into the Bermuda Triangle in the Atlantic Ocean. And they established Atlantis, which is an undisclosed unknown location somewhere beneath the Atlantic Ocean. They remove the portal that allows people to access the shadow Realm and reach Egypt and Maya effortlessly, which is Mount Kaf. They create a magic barrier around Athos so that it cannot be used to access them. Presumably because there's a portal on top that connects directly to Atlantis. This portal is important because the creator of the realms also created the elves and sent the elves to cap the power of advanced civilizations. And they all use magic. And the barrier is a magic barrier that they cannot infiltrate, that they cannot cross through. They cannot use their abilities. They couldn't just teleport there. Presumably they also have this existing in Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean, which is why they cannot be reached. They have all the measures, so they cannot be accessed. Meanwhile, in this time, Jesus is born. Jesus People having visioned of Jesus for this entire time, and he starts preaching, does this thing. He is neglected by his people and he is eventually killed. Now, unknown if this was intentional, part of a different plan that was developing or whatever the case may be. But in his dying, he actually managed to use his abilities and cross over into the shadow realm. But clever enough, this was a highly intelligent individual who had always been in communication with a being the rest of them didn't know about. And he learned, figured out and established portals that work as a one way. I have a theory as to why they're one way. And that is so that as he was building them, people didn't know what they were for because you could never cross through them and end up anywhere from this side. So it looked like he was just wasting his time. No reason in destroying the thing. And they can't hear him. They can't hear the thoughts of the individual he's talking to from the Shadow Realm. Okay, so nobody knows. It's just, oh, he's doing weird things out there in Japan. But he's establishing gates so that he can come back.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: They didn't know.
Cristina: That's so random.
Jack: Okay, he dies, boom. Can come back effortlessly.
Cristina: Yes. And he was probably communicating with something from the other side the entire time. The entire time.
Jack: And actually once he came through as well. Now back to the Sun Gods. There is an interesting thing happening in which one of the Sun Gods becomes a traitor once Ra becomes too old and passes his torch over to his friend instead of Abraxas, which was another member of the group.
Cristina: He's human though, right?
Jack: Yes. And he. So both of them are. And he goes to the shadow realm with a bunch of their data. Interesting fact. So we have Jesus important to working for the Shadow Realm. We have Abraxas important to working to the shadow realm, and the being we call Jehovah of Darkness working for the Shadow Realm. Presumably some of them, if not all of them, work for the Moon God. Or the team we're calling the Moon Gods. Might be two teams or one team. Unsure. We don't know much about anything that happens exclusively on that side. Only when individuals come over here and disclose that information. Now, the sea people successfully vanish. Jesus dies. He is created using Adam and Eve with the fruits in an artificial insemination of Mary. Mary manages to get out herself. The Sun Gods, one of them leaves with a bunch of their data. The rest of them quit trying to make life and start working for the Sea people with energy and teleportation technology and establish direct teleportation only to the sea people that is no longer related to Mount Kaf. Same thing happens with the Mayan civilization. They go underground into a storage system that has a bunch of data and presumably a portal that allows the sea people to get directly to that underground facility. So there's no need for the Mayans to remain on the surface. So they just fully disappear. And the sun. The Earth Gods fully disappear, and the Sun Gods fully disappear. They're just overnight gone. We have mad data that says an entire civilization suddenly vanished, probably to space, but the Mayans underground and the Egyptians to space. Or the Mayans could also be in some sort of bubble universe. All they need is the ability to store the data. That's all that matters. They can store the data.
Cristina: They're also working on living forever or something biological.
Jack: They were working on creating life from crops.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah. They wanted to make highly intelligent life using crops. So which presumably there. There's. With the fruits and the advancements and the fact that the sea people seem to have been around for quite a long time, it seems that immortality has to some degree been established. And the Sun Gods were considered by the. The people who weren't part of those communities, but were like observing the communities already thought these individuals were immortal. Which suggests that some of the information given to them by the sea people already involved the solution to mortality.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We move forward through time. We have individuals who find shreds of the information we have just disclosed. And we go back in time a little. We find that individuals knew what the sea people were doing and were trying to replicate it because they also wanted to get to the shadow realm. They didn't know where the h*** the fruits came from or how the h*** somebody already got into the shadow realm. So a couple of different things happened.
Cristina: Which people are you talking about?
Jack: All the other gods that had nothing to do with sea people. Think of the Greek gods. Think of the Norse individuals elsewhere. They came up with adrenochrome, which is a three part system. There is ambrosia, there is nectar. And if you consume either and distill it through your own system and then get that blood out again, then you have ichor, which is a more pure form. All three of these.
Cristina: Jesus dealing with all three of those things.
Jack: Jesus was de. And imagine how overpowered his is. You can just share this. This blood could also be. Now you could acquire this from any person. You just need to jack up adrenaline. Biology somehow allows this to happen. We discovered that for whatever reason, biology allows for anything that has blood to have this and then turn it into a way into the shadow realm. But you have to die first. Resembling the fruits, there's also a flower that allows for the same exact thing. So we have the fruits from the garden that in theory are suspected that they connect the bridge between the shadow realm and earth realm. We have nectar, ichor and ambrosia, which are all adrenochrome. We have this flower that had the same abilities and we have portals in and out and out of these. The sea people have the flowers. They have the flowers, they have the fruits and they have the portals. The only thing they don't mess with is adrenochrome, which is essentially for people who don't have the other stuff, which is a lot of people.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And because of all these civilizations that weren't favored by the sea people, if you follow their lineages throughout time, it gets f*****. And everybody's drinking blood. Everybody's trying to figure out how to get more, how to refine it, how to create clever systems to trick people, to create fear, to have a bunch of their blood packed with adrenaline straight through time. Until today, it's been a f****** normal thing.
Cristina: Yes. In the background of society, God is telling them. Until you, I guess, well, you have.
Jack: It and then you start hearing God and then you're committed to doing it more. Especially because if you stop having it after you've had it, you're gonna lose your mind anyways. It's just.
Cristina: There's a lot of that.
Jack: Yes, it's a lot. Once you start, you can't stop. And once you start, you start hearing crazy voices from the Shadow Realm and you start losing. You get crazy abilities too. You become godlike. You. You. And if you stop taking it, you lose your freaking mind and you become some other thing. When you die, you don't even really die. You just enter the Shadow Realm, become one of those creatures. Whole clusterfuck of things happens when you're dealing with this other s***, which a.
Cristina: Lot of everyone's most of.
Jack: 99% of the other s***. There's the 1% that was connected directly to this overpowered civilization known as the Sea People. And then there's the 99% that couldn't figure it out.
Cristina: The rest of the humans.
Jack: Yeah. Everybody else who wasn't connected to the sea People dealing with it. The 1% who were connected to sea People didn't need it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But that 99%, they all were like, no, we're gonna figure it out. And they just landed on the same conclusion.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Now, creatures from the Shadow Realm can easily come into the Earth Realm. They figured out their own thing. Something about fear allows an energy connection between the Overworld and the underworld and allows them to manifest over here. That's fascinating. They're not even. Creatures that aren't even native can just manifest over here.
Cristina: They could actually accidentally come over here.
Jack: Yeah, they could. Accidentally. Like it creates almost bubble teleports, Teleporters over there. They just pop up. But then there's fairies that seem to cross effortlessly, which is what. What the original Sea People thing was. And I don't even know if the other civilizations are fully aware that that's the case, because they just. Oh, adrenochrome. We figured it out. But it's like, no, these people could easily get to Shadow Realm. They didn't give a crap about that. They were working with Shadow Realm people. They're trying to get to elf fame, where the magic is. That's what Jesus is, an attempt at that. The Jews also had Joseph, which was another attempt at that.
Cristina: Yes, but do you think they knew that that's what the goal is?
Jack: I don't know if the other civilizations knew. Some of them probably did, but not by. Not the majority.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: I think the minority. I think, like maybe 1%. So there's 1% actually working with the sea people, 1% that knows of it, and 98% that have no idea what the case may be they just know the Shadow Realm is real.
Cristina: Yeah, but no one knows about this other.
Jack: Yeah, and if they do, they don't even know they could get over there. It hasn't crossed their mind. They're still figuring out just get into the Shadow Realm and that's just a whole mess. It assures you immortality if you have adrenochrome. But again, see, we figured out immortality. They need adrenal. You have immortality if you have a dream. Chrome. But you're also addicted now forever. And even if you're not addicted, you need to keep taking it. And if you stop taking it, you lose your mind. And it doesn't matter when you die. If you die having lost your mind, you become one thing. And if you die having kept your mind, you cross scene. And like you, it's so, so complicated. Just adrenochrome alone. Complicated.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: There's a whole. There's adrenochrome and then everything else. That's how complicated this. Now, in doing so and going through this and kind of trying to piece together a lot of this stuff, I wanted to nail down some of the times, what really happened. And what I did was kind of organize it according to time. So we're just gonna quickly go through some of the details here. We can keep breaking down the summary of this, but it's very important that we actually nail down some of these times.
Cristina: What are we talking about?
Jack: When. When these events actually took place, because they actually reveal information. So let us begin by explaining Adam, because a lot of this is going to start tying little things together, kind of sending them home.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Adam using genetics to create an accurate molecular clock and backtracking it all the way to where the genetics suggest. Adam dates to about 156,000 years BC, which can be confirmed with hieroglyphs and like, detailed genetic markers, as well as stories that have survived the test of time. So he can be dated, whatever this technology is, could be dated to 156,000 years before.
Cristina: Christ, I forgot. We also found Adam in Egypt. Right. That's when they started working on Adam.
Jack: Well, yes. Well, a version of him, yes. Okay, now, what is very interesting about this, and I love that this fact turned out so exact, is that primitive humans date back to 150 BC. 150,000 BC. But finding Adam takes us all the way to 156 BC. So 6,000 years before humans happened.
Cristina: Perfect timing.
Jack: Okay, before primitive humans, we get Adam.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: Fascinating. Okay, now, beautiful information. Nice. We nailed that down. Let us continue Then if we try to follow Eve backwards, using genetics to create an accurate molecular clock, Eve dates back to 100,000 BC. But not only is this confirmed with hieroglyphs and genetic markers, as well as stories dating back to that period, but this one is actually tighter together because it correlates perfectly with the modern day humans dating back to a hundred thousand years ago as well.
Cristina: Of course. Of course.
Jack: Eve and modern humans simultaneously.
Cristina: If she is what we think she is, this makes sense.
Jack: Perfect sense.
Cristina: Or it is, I guess.
Jack: So Adam is invented and something happens. This actually lends a lot to. To the idea that because we have genetics from apes, it was. It was definitely just some genetics. No, it's genetic alteration technology.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So many people believe aliens came and altered our DNA. No, it's earthlings. Yeah, Earthlings alter our DNA. At least we think it's earthlings.
Cristina: What do you mean?
Jack: So earthlings alter our DNA. Right. So 156,000 years ago, they invented this thing called Adam. Test it, work on it, and then they actually put out the first, you know, batch, which leads to a bunch of people for 6,000 years later. So for 50,000 years, the spread of these primitive humans happen. Now, what's interesting about this is when we look at genetic markers, we're not only related to apes, like every different bipedal individual that existed, but there were several groups of cave people, some more advanced than others. This kind of lends itself to believe that the one that didn't survive was the more primitive made by the program Adam.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And that they mated with some of the ones that were made with the program eve because they took those, they took some of those, modified them genetically, and they went forward as better humans, but then could still mate because they're closely related.
Cristina: Okay, what is the importance of humans, though? Do we have the answer to that? I can't remember. No, there's something as well.
Jack: No, I don't know. There's some factor about humans. It's way more important. I think it's at the rate we move, something is different about us, okay?
Cristina: We're not just some type of energy.
Jack: No. I don't know. I don't know. We're something. Something's going on, but. Or maybe we're just science. We could just be a weird science experiment. Maybe this has nothing to do with us being special. They just took monkeys and modified the monkeys with the program Adam. Boom. Now you got cave people. Then they went ahead and modified the program with program eve, and then they got more advanced cave people. Now, in Doing this, in going through this, I realized a couple of things that we've never thought about before. We knew one program came after the other. That's a pretty large gap between them. We're talking 50,000 years.
Cristina: Yes. That's pretty big. Yeah.
Jack: Most humans weren't made by both of them one at a time.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Humans weren't made by both of them. They were made one at a time. Adam existed 56,000 years before Eve and that was used to modify creatures. Then 56,000 years later, Eve is used to modify. That's not them working simultaneously? No, that's the farthest thing from the Morgan. Simultaneously. This is a huge ginormous.
Cristina: That's why we think of eve as Adam 2.0.
Jack: Yes. But that's like the most literal 2.0. Now this is where it gets a little interesting. According to biblical texts and backdating and cross referencing the Holy Bible, the Torah, the Quran, combining of Adam and eve occurred roughly 10,000 B.C. where those programs started being used together. Where? In the garden.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: What Interesting. Right.
Cristina: Okay. When was Eve started from backtracking from.
Jack: Where we are right now.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or B.C. just going back from the point. Year one. From year one. Eve is a hundred thousand years ago.
Cristina: A hundred thousand. Okay.
Jack: Adam is 156,000 years ago.
Cristina: And both of them in the garden 10,000 years ago.
Jack: 10,000 recent.
Cristina: Okay, so they were both active for a long time. Yeah.
Jack: Now this is confirmed as well, using hieroglyphs and actual texts that mention Adam and Eve together for the first time before Adam was mentioned alone, or Eve was mentioned alone, never together. What happened, but following 10,000 years ago.
Cristina: They'Re mentioned together, but they're for sure made by the same people.
Jack: There's no way to know.
Cristina: There's no way to know. Okay.
Jack: And by the way, and by the way, this little bit of detail of them together is mentioned across half of all the civilizations that exist that existed back then, they just all knew the advanced ones. They just all knew Adam and Eve together. That's just a given.
Cristina: It's crazy that it took so long.
Jack: Quite some time. Now this also correlates perfectly with the sudden appearance of miracles and magic and scientific advancements and demons and gateways.
Cristina: Starting with Adam and Eve in the.
Jack: Garden together in the garden.
Cristina: Okay. Interesting.
Jack: All these other things kind of happen immediately following this.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: They're together right off the bat. But also 10,000 years after that point, we get Jesus. Okay. Time scales collapsing quickly. They're shrinking shorter times. Shorter times.
Cristina: But humans popped up with Eve Yes.
Jack: Modern day humans popped up with Eve. Now implications of this, if Adam is roughly 140,000 years older than the time Adam and Eve are together and the mention of Adam with Eve suddenly correlates with Jehovah venturing into the forest of shadows to acquire the fruit which happened 10,000 years BC then we can safely assume the creation of the lab named the Garden of Eden. The unification of Adam and Eve and the capturing of the three fruits are all one event. We have established with information that's linking them together is no longer a theory of ours. We have them all dating all these events. The garden coming into exist, Adam and Eve coming together and the three fruits being captured all happened 10,000 years ago.
Cristina: Humans. It's the birth of a lot of new.
Jack: A lot of new science.
Cristina: Science. Yes, yes, Yep.
Jack: The mention of Adam 150,000 years ago we can call unfinished Adam which is the version used by Lilith.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: She was not in the garden yet. The garden did not exist yet. Lilith used Adam and it wasn't ready. Unfinished Adam, Eve or finished Adam led to current day humans a hundred thousand years ago. And that's also why we call Eve Atom 2.0. It's either a finished atom or a better improved atom. Now it works really well if we look at the time jumps that we're experiencing. L2 million years ago travels and sees the fruit for the first time. The fruit of life is probably the one he takes when he ventures into the forest with Sizen. So 1,000,900, years later Adam is created from that. He was working for a really really, really long time on it. A million 900 years later he creates Adam.
Cristina: So now he can on something he found in the shadow realm.
Jack: Okay, so now he makes Adam and he can make, he can modify life with it. Now somebody disappears and acquires the fruit of Knowledge. That gets applied to Eve. 100,000 years now we have modern day humans intelligence. He acquired the Fruit of Knowledge. If Adam used the Fruit of Life and Eve used the Fruit of Knowledge, two modifications that are entirely different were applied to the current now standing the now standing humans, what we consider humans now use the Fruit of Knowledge and the Fruit of Life. Adam was built using the Fruit of Life, Eve was built using the Fruit of Knowledge. We've been modified by both. We get two. The garden after Jehovah ventured in and got not just the Fruit of Life and not just the Fruit of Knowledge, but he also retrieved the third fruit.
Cristina: The fruit of Flesh, which we're not sure if they made Jesus with that.
Jack: I Think that is the point.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I think everything created following that point is why the development of crazy sciences. People who can perform miracles, powers and all these other things. Demons crossing over. I think that's the case. And not just. Not just we know anybody connected to the sea people had just humans. Also, there's the shadow around people who naturally have abilities. But humans connected to the sea people had abilities. All these people are following this 10,000 year mark. They start sharing technology. And this is where these other civilizations now start to kind of explode too.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Where the Greeks start to explode 9,000 years ago. Where the Norse start to explode 8,000 years ago. Where the Egyptians start to explode with the Mayan simultaneously 7,000 years ago. This is all following that one event. And these people are called what? Gods.
Cristina: Of course.
Jack: Of course. Of course. Suddenly correlating that they added the fruit of flesh and maybe created concoctions and cocktails that they can also give these people, to give them abilities, enhance their knowledge. We can't modify you the way we can to these people. But also we've discovered a way to kill mortality. Now you can live forever. You can have more intellect. You can have more abilities. We are comparable to the creatures in the Shadow Realm. With our advancements, maybe even better. Well, we're better. We're just gonna make you equal. Yes, we're gonna make you equal to the baddest s*** over there. Yeah, that's kind of lining up, right? That explains a lot. Now that also explains why there were groups of people who. We're descendants from who normal people are descendants from that don't have abilities. Especially after all these juicy goodies stopped being shared when they were like, no, there's a problem. We got to stop.
Cristina: You got to hide.
Jack: We got to hide. No more sharing. We've achieved some peak.
Cristina: And now we can safely hid themselves. But they hid the unique people they made.
Jack: Yes. And just disappears. Everything disappears. Suddenly it's just people without abilities. Some slipped through the cracks. But we got a rebuild using only things left behind. Using only shreds of information. Hidden information. Most of which they tried to totally suppress. They created the Knights Templar to fully suppress this information. To make it disappear. To modify the history of Jesus. To hide their existence entirely. Erase any proof of anything.
Cristina: Yep. That's crazy.
Jack: But we have correlating information that tells us they solved immortality and helped these people that are considered the gods be what they were. This is all thanks to the sea people and their advancements and. And the three fruits that technology, teleportation and energy Storage and data storage for things like this, that kind of data that needed to be stored. And this all began with El meeting Susan, finding the forest, then creating Adam, then eventually going again, getting the fruit of knowledge, creating Eve. Then, way in the future, Jehovah goes and gets the fruit of knowledge, the fruit of flesh and the fruit of life mixed with Adam and Eve now is able to create cocktails, at least until they pump out a being born of this Jesus. But it was problematic right off the bat. It was 10,000 years later and still too soon. Keep in mind the leaps that El used, 1.9 million years, and then he still waited 6,000 more years after it was made. That's testing. That's science. That's consistent research. Consistent research and experimentation before implementation. Yes, Jehovah rushed. It was 10,000 years between the point that he got the three fruits, Adam and Eve, and established the garden. But also, I don't think Oros had sent anybody out at the time of L, 1.9 million years ago. L did not have a Naga with him.
Cristina: Is that important?
Jack: I think that's what allowed, like, Jehovah to move so much faster. It's what allowed the Egyptians and the Mayans to move so much faster before they even came across the Sea People.
Cristina: Oh, because they had.
Jack: They had beings helping them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That were exceptional.
Cristina: That's. He did it.
Jack: Probably not.
Cristina: Okay. And he's a sea person, too.
Jack: L?
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: L is the great grandfather of Jehovah.
Cristina: Okay. The ancestor of Sea People, I guess.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The ancestor of Sea People. Probably before the Sea People were established. Because the Sea People. Then again, it's already been 500,000 years. By the time we get L meeting season, it's already been a hundred thousand years. I mean, 500,000 years.
Cristina: Or are the Sea People humans or are they not?
Jack: You've asked this many times. I don't know. We don't know if any of these people are.
Cristina: They're a combination of it, because we know the Sea People. I mean, the Egyptians are hanging out with Shadow People. So would the Sea People also be a combination of things we don't even know of?
Jack: Well, the sea, the Egyptians hanging out with Shadow People means nothing. They can't reproduce with them. There's no mixing going on. They're a team, a collective of them. But they can't reproduce with something that isn't biological. How's that gonna work? Like, Ixchel is married to Izamna, but they don't have children because how the f***. Okay, One of them Is like a ghost or something.
Cristina: They don't have children. I don't know the story. Like if they ended up adopting or something. No, no.
Jack: Now let us think real quick. They could be human. I think they're just a different thing that developed here on Earth. But we also know there's crap in space like that weird Chupacabra thing that showed up looking for like sensing fear and blood or whatever or called that we call the Chupacabra, but it's just one of like three different things we've called the Chupacabra which just showed up looking for the same things Chupacabra looking for. Now let's focus on Mars real quick because Mars has a couple of interesting details that might or might not be related. There is evidence that suggests that thermal nuclear explosions occurred on the surface of Mars. This is nuclear debris and isotopes that are on the surface of Mars. Now the sun has a s*** ton of radiation and Mars doesn't have an atmosphere. So it's reasonable that the radiation from the sun slams effortlessly without restriction onto the surface of Mars. But these are isotopes similar to what you'd find in a man made explosive that the sun does not have.
Cristina: Okay, interesting.
Jack: So it goes as follows. They seem to be about 500 million years in age. That's significantly older than 2.5 million years.
Cristina: Okay, okay.
Jack: So now, and keep in mind, it is different from a solar nuclear radioactive material. It's isotope residual, similar to man made H bomb explosives. Particularly. Now, if there was a nuclear war that took place on Mars, the events would go as follows. A cloud. If it's mad. If MAD took place, place, Mutually assured destruction. And this was a bunch of people at war and they blew themselves to s***. Then we have a situation in which a cloud covered the Earth. Not the Earth, covered Mars, surrounded Mars entirely. And that debris blocked out the Sun's heat coming in. So they had an atmosphere back then. Then they create nuclear war. Debris and fallout block the Sun. Heat no longer comes down. This leads the planet to freeze over. But it's mutually assured destruction. This happened all over the surface of the planet. It's not patched, it's wholly covered. It's a shell of blockage of the sun. No external heat landing. It gets so cold even the core of the planet freezes. If the core of the planet freezes and no longer has rotation, the magnetic field ceases because the magnetic field is caused by the core. If the magnetic field ceases, that's what holds the atmosphere in place. The atmosphere fades into Space. And once the particles and residue from the fallout fall back to the surface, the sun's radiation now can pierce without a magnetic field in the way. Now you have sun's radiation slamming into whatever is left over after the nuclear war for 5 million years. We have things that are 14,000 years old and we only know they exist because somebody mentioned it. And we can kind of score to see a fossilized outline of it. Think about that. 14,000 years old and we can barely see a trace of it. 500 million years without an atmosphere. Nothing but solar radiation crumbling everything that exists into dust. Would suggest that if this is truly the case, there might have been an entirely developed Earth like planet.
Cristina: We would never know.
Jack: We would never know.
Cristina: There's nothing that exists there anymore.
Jack: There's nothing that exists there. We can't even find crap that's 14,000 years old. Properly we rely on things being carved in stone. Keep in mind our atmosphere protects the sun from s******* on everything. People carved things. Things are hidden from light. We find them in caves. They built structures. We find them in structures. We have these things to protect that protected history. Anything that's exposed to nature 14,000 years, we just don't see it anymore. And we have a magnetic field. This s*** did not have a magnetic field. It completely destroyed that too. And then you got the sun slamming into everything for 500 million years. There would be no proof of anything. It would just look like dust no matter what was standing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So there is evidence that suggests that Mars was not just lush but that they at least had the current technology we have today. Us normal non sea people. They were at least as advanced as we were 500 million years ago.
Cristina: How do we know that?
Jack: Because there's man made nuclear residue mixed in.
Cristina: Okay. So if they're able to do that, they have to.
Jack: They had to be as advanced as we are. So that was at least an intelligent planet. The issue is, did MAB create everything first? There is that Earth realm. Is it easier to get from there to these other places? Because if that's where development began, why so much happening on Earth? Unless that's what makes us interesting. Whatever was on Mars was like the other stuff. But whatever happened on Earth where they ran away to very different the creatures. There are some other we. The sea people advance very slowly.
Cristina: Oh, we don't know if they could have done that over there. It just. It was destroyed before they were able to do that over there. They did. They had more time here.
Jack: No, they had way more time over there. They did 500 million years. It's only been 2.5 million years, just since the sea people, stools.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: They weren't even advanced. It was just rock tools, meaning 497.5 million years difference took place over there before.
Cristina: Oh, wow. Okay.
Jack: They were over there 497.5 million years before we find tools on Earth from primitive creatures.
Cristina: Well, when they got here, they had to start from scratch.
Jack: I'm thinking. I'm thinking, yes. I'm thinking it's an escape shuttle. It gets here and we witness there, some kind of Horizon thing happens. You know, they get here, they lost all of their planet. But whatever. This planet has been established as maybe colonies or whatever. And I don't know. I don't know. Then 2.5 million years ago, we get tools. It's still primitive, but they're. So they become it. I don't know. There's some problem. There's some problem with this. Because if they're so advanced over there, that's different than whatever's happening on Earth because we got tools. They would have just come with technology, bro. They had to get here with technology. How are you gonna cross this expanse.
Cristina: Of space if it is like Horizon? Maybe they didn't because, like, it was children. So they couldn't. Like, the children wouldn't know how to use the technology.
Jack: I mean, it's not literally horizon. I'm 100% sure adults piloted ships.
Cristina: Like, what if they couldn't?
Jack: Why, that's just. Again, we're adding things we don't know. We do know that there were tools 2.5 million years ago. And we do know that it seems nuclear war happened 500 million years ago over there. The information we have for fact, an intelligent civilization would take some of its technology wherever it's going just for the sake of convenience and advancement. And they're not just going to send a wave of children. Somebody's going to be a coward and be like, I'm going to protect them. I'm going with them. Even in Horizon, that happened.
Cristina: Well, I think it just took forever for them to understand their own writing, their own.
Jack: That doesn't make any sense. Why would that be logical? I piloted an entire ship over to that planet, but I don't know how to use anything. Like, it doesn't check out. There's a huge gap missing there between whatever the h*** happened against. Unless it's absolutely unrelated. It could be absolutely unrelated.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: And this is just another instance of life. Of life. Maybe life does happen consistently, but, like, what are the Odds are gonna happen simultaneously. And what are the odds that they'll develop even close to each other?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Which would then suggest that, yes, the sea people are just earthlings that began because based on the tools, they began 2.5 million years ago. And about 2 million years ago, they were already quite advanced. That's 500,000 years of advancement. That's 400,000 years more than we had. Of course, we're assuming they move slower than we do on average, which is why they were just average figuring things out. Yeah, around 2 million years ago. And it still took 1.9 million years before they were technologically advanced enough to establish Adam. So there's huge, huge gap of trial and error and technologic advancement, but faster and faster with the fruits, with the technology. And then we get to humans, modern day humans, hundred thousand years we've gone from where the sea people were 2.5 million years ago to nuclear power. It's only been a hundred and two thousand years.
Cristina: Okay, that's crazy.
Jack: It took them 2.5 million years. It has only taken us 102,000 years. So whatever they did. Fire. Yes, fire. And that's without counting that 10,000 year. Well, 12,000, because you got to count the 2,000 after B.C. there's 2,000, 12,000 years, right, that they haven't done anything to us. Those are just powers and special creatures that disappear. Roughly. I guess it's still 10,000 years because they begin about 10,000 BC and end around year one, where they just disappear. So the rest of us haven't actually been influenced by the combination of Adam and Eve, the fruits, any of that for the garden. Those were just elites. Elites we literally call gods. This is some whole other s***. We're not even influenced by that. They did that to themselves and to the homies and made themselves colossally overpowered. We see shreds here and there and we come up with things here and there as we dig and find traces that they couldn't get rid of.
Cristina: But aren't they made our ancestors.
Jack: They made our ancestors 100 BC, 100,000 BC using Eve. We're the children. We're the descendants of Eve, not Adam.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And not Adam and Eve. It looks like current day humanity is evolution to just Eve.
Cristina: And that probably Jesus is the only Adam and Eve thing. Maybe, I don't know.
Jack: Yes, Jesus is probably the only Adam and Eve. And a cocktail using the fruits is what led to the gods, what we call, quote, the gods unquote, which are just really intelligent immortal scientists. But they were just, you Know Jehovah acquired the fruits. He was a sea person, did a lot of experiments, technologies, created drinks, created things. He had the flower, created drinks, created things, had portals to access all the homies share it with you guys. Look, you guys aren't gonna die anymore. You guys can live forever. We can work on everything. We're gonna work on forever. We're gonna help each other, we to advance. We're going to be magnificent. This is why we see Raw rule Egypt for thousands of years. This is why we see it Zamna rule Maya for thousands of years. And it's because they're immortal. They're immortal and thanks to the sea people. This is why the sea people are a small group of people. Not a country size, a small group of people, city size. But the same people always somehow. Jehovah. Always the same Jehovah. Just always the same Jehovah. Because they figured things out.
Cristina: Anything. Mars is. I guess Mars isn't related.
Jack: I think it's unrelated. But then if it's unrelated, I guess it would make sense. And yes. Mabs is God God. Mab is God God. She made like she's the God God. She made f****** everything and s*** just happened at random there.
Cristina: Yeah, that's it.
Jack: She's God God. And somehow some f******. How some dude named L and his descendants managed to catch up to that b****. D***, bruh. Or at least make her paranoid.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: I don't think they caught up.
Cristina: No, I don't think so.
Jack: But then again, it's also been 2,000 years since we've gotten a single peep out of any of this s***.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Because following the point that they all disappear, we just have current day people. Current day humans minus the gods. No gods. All the gods gone.
Cristina: Just one special human.
Jack: Just one special. Well, he vanished too.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: So yeah. Just current day people figuring out the tricks with data we find. Running our own experiment. Experiments getting places. Some people found some of the sources. Some people found pieces of fruit. Some people found this. Some people found that. A lot of people found out about adrenochrome. Everybody's kind of figuring their way out to the same spots.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That the sea people helped their homies get to. Then we have people who are immortal. We have people who have abilities. We have people who can cross the bridge to the other side. And we've only taken 2,000 years to do what they took.
Cristina: Our version is pretty corrupted.
Jack: Our version is dark as f***. It's pretty diabolical.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we need each other to do it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But we also don't have what they have. They hid it.
Cristina: Yes, because they're scientists.
Jack: Now, if we can find. The problem is you get to the other side and you go kind of mad. And it's hard to direct yourself through there. But if we can get somebody on this end to get to the Shadow Realm without dying, find the fruits, yes. We will be way ahead. The problem is we don't know where to begin. We don't know how to do that. How do you create. What the h*** is the Shadow Realm? How do we make a bridge to the Shadow Realm? The Norse got the closest. They figured out that if you make mass sacrifices in an area and if.
Cristina: You want to find that the garden, that's what's protected by guards, or just the Shadow Realm itself is protected by the Shadow Realm.
Jack: Well, the garden is a lab that belongs to the sea people. The Shadow Realm, the garden.
Cristina: No, not the garden. The secret garden or secret forest. That's what I mean.
Jack: The Forest of Shadows is inside the Shadow Realm?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That's where we need to get to.
Cristina: Is that protected by guards?
Jack: The gate to that was. That's what Susan put a gatekeeper and a record keeper to keep track of anybody who came through and stop anybody who's gonna want them. Okay, but like, where the f*** was that anyways? Why haven't we found that this entire time? 2,000 years. There's way more people now than there were before. Why haven't we come across that? The sea people probably made that disappear too.
Cristina: Definitely. Yes.
Jack: Okay, so we need a way. And then the Norse again. This is what's interesting. Between the collective of humans, we have enough pieces that if we work together, we can get to where the sea people were. They did it alone, a lot of it. And then added some pieces with some other civilizations. But we have enough pieces. The Norse within the last 2000 years figured out that if they sacrifice people in the same area, drink the blood and make sure they're horrified when it happens, they can at least bridge a direct line of communication clear to the other side. And they believed that with enough sacrifices, they can rip a hole. This sounds like a philosopher's stone. Almost. Get a s*** ton of people together, mass genocide. But then it brings up an interesting question. Because we know that 911 was staged for the blood and the fear. The elites do it where they trying to build a gate. That's a lot of sudden death.
Cristina: I don't know. Because the gates they make, I feel like, might be more like the gates Jesus was making before he was.
Jack: That's a one way gate.
Cristina: Exactly. So it doesn't even matter. You think we can't use these gates?
Jack: Well, the gates that Jesus made weren't. They didn't require death, they were just gates. He figured something out.
Cristina: Yeah, but I feel like that's what they're also making.
Jack: That's what's happening.
Cristina: Well, no, that's what the fear stories of them going. We always hear like that's where their God is coming from and talking to them. Or the Shupacabra.
Jack: Or would we hear of somebody disappearing forever into the Shadow Realm?
Cristina: Well, we don't have stories of them.
Jack: How would we have stories of them?
Cristina: Because there's a group of people. They will see one person.
Jack: Oh, fair enough.
Cristina: Like these group of people and they're only talking about the thing that's coming out of it. There's never like we or one of us.
Jack: One of the main stories that happens, and I'm sure you've seen this one too, is when the towers were collapsing. Well, first when the smoke was happening, the first planes hit and people were freaking out, they saw a face form. You've seen that, right?
Cristina: Yeah, that's just something coming through the Shadow Realm. Creature.
Jack: Yeah, Shadow Realm creature coming through at the pinnacle of where people are the most scared. Where the fire is, where the planes hit. And they haven't died yet. They're horrified. And something is coming through actively at that moment. And we're seeing it on video footage of it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But then here's another interesting one because there's a similar story that took place at a greater tragedy. And it was huge during World War II. There were stories, so many f****** stories of creatures wandering the battlefields at night. Wetchudge. When dingo is vampire as f*** any. Anything you could think of which checks out one way from that side.
Cristina: Exactly. I don't think we figured out how to.
Jack: How to get over there without dying. We can drink blood and get over there, but that's not the same as us getting over there. That's the f****** problem. Getting mortality. But we're corrupted the whole way.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: How do we do it?
Cristina: I don't know. We'll never figure that out. Or we never could.
Jack: I mean, we can, but it's literally been figured out.
Cristina: It's possible from something that's hiding.
Jack: Yeah. So we don't need them. They figured it out without help.
Cristina: They figured out. Well, the original guy had a guy from the Shadow Realm help him out.
Jack: We don't know that. We know that the Mayans receive two different portals One from the sea people and one from some dude from the Shadow realm.
Cristina: Sounds like help, right?
Jack: Where did the sea people get theirs if they don't have anybody from the Shadow realm?
Cristina: They have an ancestor who was at the Shadow Realm.
Jack: You're f****** right. You're totally right. Second. Second thing that I'm going to put out casually. We've not thought and we'll close it up here because we're like running. Yes. L like their ancestor. Instant. They've always been connected to the Shadow Realm since their beginning development. But what's weird about this, and we've never thought about this, but we even have confirmation in biblical text and hieroglyphs that we never get thought about and we've said her name so many times is Lilith. Oh, dude, Lilith is from the Shadow Realm, isn't she?
Cristina: I. I'm not.
Jack: She's been described many times as what? Say the word.
Cristina: I don't what the word.
Jack: Demon.
Cristina: A demon? Oh, yes, yes, yes. Her. Her children are what we call. What are those specific demons? The. The. The ghosts that want to have sex with you. That's what she created with Adam.
Jack: Succubus.
Cristina: Succubus? Yes, those things. Those are Shadow Realm creatures.
Jack: Well, she didn't make succubus. But she made something like Succubus.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: She might have been a Succubus.
Cristina: Yeah, she came from the Shadow Realm. She definitely did. She just made more of herself.
Jack: Well, no, she made something similar to herself. Not even similar. They just said he made things, the succubus made things. So we're assuming, oh, they're Succubus themselves. But no, they can't be. That doesn't make any sense. There's some primitive human. They're just cave people.
Cristina: They're just cave people, but more Shadow Realm Y. Like, I guess.
Jack: No, it was just Earth science. And a Shadow Realm person activated the thing.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's all. They weren't Shadow Realm creatures.
Cristina: They don't have her DNA though.
Jack: No, there's no DNA of hers in anything. Oh, how would they have her DNA? She has no DNA. If she's from the Shadow Realm, what's.
Cristina: The benefit of using the machines? Well, she just wants it, I guess, because some beings like to be gods doing s***.
Jack: Yeah, but the point here being made is that she was definitely from the Shadow Room. It's been in front of our face the whole time El was working with Sizen. Two million years ago.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: They're friends. Even if he wasn't us. Even if l wasn't A scientist. There's some dude he was already friends with some other dude. Some other dude that would later join a group of scientists that are working with the descendant of his friend. And then Lilith, definitely a Shadow Arm creature. Which tells us every science group had a Naga, an Earth Realmer and a Shadow Realmer.
Cristina: Oh, except for the original. What is he? I guess the ancestor of the.
Jack: That wasn't a scientist.
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: He was just a dude. There's some dude and some other Shadow Realm. Yeah, yeah. It was just some two friends who happened to be from different realms. I don't think either one was really scientific. There was just a leader. I rule everything. And. Okay, this guy. Some two dudes. Chilling. But now the descendants of L, the people they work with, who. Then Susan, the friend of El, joins. Yeah, yeah, it sort of checks out. So every group has a Naga, a Shadow Realmer and an Earth Realmr. And somehow that's the combination that leads to rapid advancement. Meanwhile, we've only taken 2,000 years to.
Cristina: Get pretty close without any of that.
Jack: Without any of them.
Cristina: Oh, except for maybe the Shadow Realm stuff.
Jack: Well, we don't need help from the Shadow Realm. No, we just get immortality from it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Even if it's not the right immortality and we're all kind of f*****. Ultimately, it's still an immortality that people are fighting with, I guess. I guess they're like, okay, I'm gonna still live forever. Whatever.
Cristina: Whatever.
Jack: Anyways, yeah, that's. That's where we are right now. It's trying to tie all these loose wires. Nuts.
Cristina: It's too much information.
Jack: Yeah, it's. It's getting hard to keep track of. There's a lot going on. Somebody's gonna have to like, make a Wikipedia go through these episodes and like, put it so I can read what we have found ourselves, you know, because. D***, bruh. Or make a fan wiki and just lay out what we know so far. Somebody do this, please. I'm not gonna do it too much. Yeah, but somebody do it. So, yeah, it's possible that what happened on Mars has nothing to do with anything because of the primitive tools that exist on Earth. It might have just been two different instances. Anyways, please contact us, guys. Give us information. Tell us you're gonna make a fan wiki and elaborate on what we have found. All of the above. Above.
Cristina: Or connect Mars to any of this somehow.
Jack: Yes, please do that. You can reach us on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and X@justconvo pod.
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Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening by it. Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by Great Thoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.