Rambling 245: Summary As It Stands
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How was Earth Realm made? Where do Fairy Trees come from? Is there a third Philosopher’s Stone? The duo create a summary of the major events in the Sea People’s timeline in order to assist new listeners with the vast amount of data and with hopes of coming to additional conclusions with all the information in front of them at once. What they didn’t expect was a solution to some of the bigger questions being right in front of their faces!
+Episode Details
Topics Discussed:
- Yaldobaoth and the Philosopher’s Stone
- Eloai the Great Ancestor
- Jehovah
- The Three Great Nations
- The Naga and the Elves
- The Philosopher’s Stone
- The Artificial Insemination of Mary
- Three Magi
- Catholic Suppression
- Knights Templar
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I am your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And so because of how absurd and baffling some of these ideas are, and we've been going on a spiral that's been months at this point, about the sea people and adrenochrome. And now we've even gotten so far that we're. We're gonna have to start looking for the philosopher stone. Yeah, the third missing philosopher's stone. But anyways, because of how long this road has been here, and it's so many episodes that if somebody were to jump in suddenly, it would be an absolute f****** nightmare to keep track. It would suck. It was such a f****** long series that I figured it makes a lot of sense to make a summery episode to catch people up. It's not gonna be super granular because it's absolutely too much.
Cristina: It's. It's a lot of episodes. How many episodes has it been so far?
Jack: The h***? No, it's many. Too many. But we can summarize all the important points, so I figured that's what we do and then create this summary episode.
Cristina: Okay, and where do you start?
Jack: Well, as it stands, by the way, that's probably gonna be the name of this episode as it stands.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We would have to go all the way to the beginning of seemingly time based on everything we know. This is all chronological, as far as we know.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Okay. So a chronological retelling of the universe leading up to the most recent moment. We begin at Elfhame, and I believe the goal is to get back to Elfame. So let us comment all the way at the beginning. A creature named Mab within the first realm named Elfhame, creates the shadow realm through unknown methods, presumably the sciences of Elfhame. Yeah, we don't know if Mab is the only one of her kind, if she is the gaudiest of gods, or if she's just one of many. From her tier in Elfhame, she could be one of many. Who knows? And considering as above, so below, it's likely that she's just one of many. But for the sake of our understanding, that's where it begins for us and everything we know of, because we can't.
Cristina: Trace the top in Alphane.
Jack: Yeah, she. Well, we don't know.
Cristina: We don't know.
Jack: Oh, Queen. But that assumes that maybe there's a king, like, I don't know. Now, in the Shadow Realm, a creature named Yaldabaoth is put in charge of the Shadow Realm. And that creature then creates Earth. That is the order of the three realms. Alfame creates the Shadow Realm. The Shadow Realm creates Earth.
Cristina: Okay. She did not create him. He just was a thing in.
Jack: Presumably, she created him. Or he is. I don't know. He could have been a product, naturally.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: We. We don't understand his origin. There's no. Nothing told to us about that. But could be he could. Now that I think about it, there was no direct. He was created by her.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: He's just in charge of.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: Because maybe, you know, who knows? Giant, epic battle over billions of years led to him being on top. We have absolutely no idea how long the periods of time are between these points. It could be infinity's worth. Between Mab creating the Shadow Realm and then Yaldabaoth creating Earth. It could have been infinities. We have no. What. What does time mean in the Shadow Realm?
Cristina: Oh, besides her making the Shadow Realm, she also made other things. Or was that after he made Earth?
Jack: What do you mean? The other three goddesses that went ahead and created life and all that. I have no idea. Have no idea.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: I have no idea what. We don't know what order those events happen in. We know she made a bunch of s***. He made a bunch of s***. And we are aware.
Cristina: Okay, okay.
Jack: We're gonna call him Yalda because it's shorthand for saying his long f****** name. Yalda has a child with a djinn. He names a child Sizzle. Now, life takes its natural course on Earth for billions of years. 14 or so odd billion years go by after Yalda creates the Earth Realm. 3.3. Now we're entering where we can start stamping things. 3.3 billion years ago, Yalda goes into EarthRealm and tinkers with the genetics of developing Earth species. What sciency Going and exploring, experimenting, poking things around and being like, what can I do with the things that are going on here? Using gene manipulation, he alters it so that so as to speed up a specific developing races, development and advancement. So, you know, get, get fast. I'm bored of seeing the same primitive.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Dinosaurs for God knows how long, presumably. Right. 2.5 million years ago, the first tools are developed by these creatures. 2.1 million years ago, Yalda reveals himself to three members of this altered species, located within what would later be known as a Persian Gulf oasis.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: One of them was named Eloi, which is very important. Yes. This is interesting because there's very similar Jesus structure that's happening here. Right? Not Jesus structure, but like Jehovah revealing himself. It seems like a lot of the things that we consider Jehovah did is not things Jehovah did.
Cristina: No, he's just based off of these much more ancient stories.
Jack: Yes. It seems that there's a lot of conflating Eloi and Jehovah.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Because they kind of did a lot of the same things, but not to the same people. And so it's easy to be like, oh, yeah, we have. We, the sea people have these recorded stories of Eloi, and they get lost and refound by other people and they see Jehovah doing identical things. They think Jehovah is Eloi.
Cristina: Loi has to do with alchemy, though, right? He's the alchemist.
Jack: Everything apparently has to do with alchemy.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But yes, I guess so, because that's where we would be going towards next in a couple of lines. Let's see. Yalda gifts the Shadow Realm to his son Sizen.
Cristina: Okay. Okay.
Jack: And Yalda informs Eloi of the existence of the Shadow Realm and the origins of Eloise Species. I altered you. I. I created how you are, then I allowed you to evolve. And also, I come from a different place. I made this universe you exist in. I come from a different place where different things happen, unlike anything you understand.
Cristina: And then. No, I'm trying not to get these stories confused, but he's not the one that he takes to the Garden. That's the next step. Somewhere down the line, right?
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yalda does not go with Loi to the Garden.
Cristina: Okay. That's Susan and that's Susan.
Jack: And Loi.
Cristina: That's Loi.
Jack: L is short for Loi.
Cristina: How is he still alive? I thought that was another guy. No, that's him.
Jack: No, these are. This is what's weird about this. Instantaneously. This is why these are immediately not humans.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The giant gaps of time happening with Loi instantaneously tells you they are. They are living an absurd amount of time.
Cristina: I thought L and is like someone in his family or something.
Jack: Like.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess if they work still similar to humans, because we don't really know what they. What their lives are like.
Jack: This is an interesting point you're bringing up, because maybe, I guess maybe. Right, but no, the problem we're talking about is that even if that were the case, we're still talking of an absurd amount of years and the same name. So even if we were to say Loi is not L, then this guy still lives, like, 300,000 years. Like, it's still. You know, it's still like, whatever. It's probably him.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's still, like, between just Adam And Eve is 50,000 years. You know, like, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. But we know that these things were modified by a deity of some sort.
Cristina: Or.
Jack: Not a deity. That's just the way we would look at it. But the scientific leap between that s*** and us is so colossal, it's godly. And you get altered into this immortal thing. So 2 million years ago, that's the point where things get interesting. Because Eloi meets Sizen, and then Susan tells El of the Forest of Shadows, of which El already knew about the Shadow Realm. And it. There's. I still have no f****** clue how Susan and L meet in the first place. I just know they meet and they venture to the Forest of Shadows in the Shadow Realm.
Cristina: It has to be through his father. If he knew him.
Jack: No, because when Yalda gifts Sizen the Shadow Realm, he just dips, which is another weird thing. Where the f*** does he go?
Cristina: But it's not like he. Like, we don't know what that means. He could have left him things. He could have told him what he was doing and then left. Because what's the chances of him running into the same guy he was messing with?
Jack: Yeah, yeah. 100%. There's a huge gap of information there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like how? Why? What? You just came across the son of the. But, like, I don't even know. Why would your son be interested in this guy? There's something missing there. There's something missing there. There's a reason. There must have been an intent behind Sizzle and El crossing paths. Arguably both sons of Yalda in different ways.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: One literally birthed, one scientifically, the other one scientifically created.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But both. You could call them brothers at this point. Okay, from. Actually, that's an interesting way to look at it. Brothers from different realms. So Susan tells El of the Forest of Shadows, and they venture into the Shadow Realm to visit sometime. After an unknown amount of time, El acquires the fruit of knowledge and begins experimenting. We no longer have Szen mentioned here, and he's not for a while. In fact, we discovered Sizen much later without knowing that him and L interacted in this manner.
Cristina: So.
Jack: 156,000 years ago, the Philosopher's Stone, Adam is created, presumably by about six, using six primitive creatures from a new Developing ape species.
Cristina: The story of the people who are protecting the garden on the actual Earth Realm. When. How old are those stories?
Jack: That's way in the future from this point.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: That has nowhere near happened yet. So 156,000 years ago, the philosopher's stone atom is created from about six members of an ape species. So presumably they're sacrificed by L. And he's using the Fruit of Life, some fragment of this fruit. Quote, fruit. It's. I mean, they literally talk about trees, so I'm not thinking it's a metaphor. It's literally some sort of fruit or something.
Cristina: Because the tree does sound pretty magical if it's really connecting two realms or maybe even three.
Jack: Yes. We don't even know. There's already something weird about these trees to begin with. And using this Fruit of Life, he creates the philosopher's stone Adam. Or using Adam and the fruit of Life, the philosopher's stone atom and the Fruit of life, he creates the primitive human species. That is an unclear first problem we come across. Did he require the fruit plus the sacrifices to create the philosopher's stone Adam, or did he use the fruit plus the philosopher's stone Adam to create the first set of life? Unknown, don't know. Then a hundred thousand years ago, L acquires a Fruit of Knowledge, we face the same problem. Did he use the fruit of knowledge plus 50 million, roughly primitive humans to create Eve, or did he use Eve and the fruit of knowledge plus 50? Well, I guess Eve would have been made from 50 million sacrifices. So did he use the Philosopher's Stone Eve plus the fruit to make modern day humans, or did he use the fruit to make Eve with the sacrifices? So I don't know. In both cases, we don't know which the fruit was used for. Was the Fruit of Life used to create Adam or was the Fruit of Life used alongside Adam to create primitive humans? And then one generation later, was the Fruit of Knowledge used to create Eve or was it used alongside Eve to create modern day humans? I think in both instances. Because you don't need the fruit to create the philosopher's stone. I think in both instances they were used alongside it.
Cristina: Yes. I guess never written about using it to make.
Jack: Which isn't now in the magnum opus, it does show up. The, the Fruit of Life does show up, but it's not included. It's discussed as a separate thing. So based on that logic, we should assume it's used in conjunction, not to create it.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: Which would say six sacrifices of this ancient ape species are used to create Adam. And then the fruit of life plus Adam equals primitive humans.
Cristina: Yes. Somehow.
Jack: Yes. And then 50 million of that primitive human is used to create Eve, the philosopher's stone. Eve. And then Eve and the fruit of knowledge are used to create modern day humans.
Cristina: Yes. And then is Jesus the next step?
Jack: Right, that's so far.
Cristina: That's so far. Okay. I don't know. These timelines are crazy.
Jack: We're talking hundreds of thousand years ago. Okay, hundreds of thousands of years ago. Then we go to about 50,000 years ago, modern day humans begin to develop language.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's been 50,000 years since the alteration was made with Eve and the modern day humans were invented. Now we're no longer doing millions of years or hundreds of thousands of years gaps. These creatures are moving even faster than the sea people did.
Cristina: Okay, think about it.
Jack: It was millions of years before 14 billion something. It was 3.3 million years when Yalda first genetically modified the apes.
Cristina: How long ago?
Jack: Or not even apes, whatever species they were from. 3.3 million years ago. Okay, let's see. Yes, 3.3 billion years ago, actually. Holy f***. When he. Jesus Christ. 3.3 billion years ago, when he first went to alter the genetics of this developing species. And then 2.5 million years ago, the first tools were developed. Those are the sea people. Think of the giant gap of time between those two points.
Cristina: That's pretty huge. So it took them a while.
Jack: Took them a while while. But then it took us from being created 100,000 years ago, only 50,000 years to get to our tools and language.
Cristina: Huh? We're better.
Jack: We're better. I mean, that's the point, right? 40,000 years ago, Mab sends Naga to any and all rapidly developing intelligence civilizations. So now the settlements are spread out throughout the world because hundreds of years pass.
Cristina: And these are the snakes.
Jack: These are the snakes created by Oros.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: And so all the seemingly faster developing groups have one Naga somewhere among them that is eventually gonna attach itself to whatever fastest developing is happening. And now we start entering more modern situations. 12,000 years ago, Jehovah, descendant of Eloi of the Sea People from the Persian Gulf oasis, appears in the Shadow Realm requesting passage to the Forest of Shadow.
Cristina: Who?
Jack: Jehovah.
Cristina: Okay, What?
Jack: Yeah, that's when he goes and he gets the fruits.
Cristina: Oh, okay, I thought that already happened. No, that was Adam and Eve. Oh, okay.
Jack: No, now Jehovah's the one showing up with like a note or something. You don't remember that? He had some data that said, oh yeah, this stuff exists here And Susan had already placed because of before Jehovah, this other guy, the Judge.
Cristina: The Judge? Yes, the Judge of the humans and Shadow people.
Jack: Later. Yeah, later, the Djinn, he went ahead and crossed and then alerted Susan, which decided, I need to put some guards here. Now, the Judge is an interesting situation because that happens roughly around the same time, right? The judge comes first, 10,000 years BC roughly 11. And crosses into the Shadow Realm. Brother of Inanna tells Inanna of his ventures through there. And he begin. He, you know, the Jinn know. They find out that he's a Judge, and they're like, oh, yeah, we need somebody to kind of do that for us as well. And Inanna gets curious. Inanna goes and she traded this place. She tries the fruit, though, first, gets enlightened, becomes obsessed with the Shadow Realm, frequents it, and then. No. Gets to know Ixo. Ixo, the prodigy botanist from the Shadow Realm, and her get close and then decide to swap places after trading a bunch of stories. And then Ixchel lands in Maya, where later she will pair with some Egyptian guy.
Cristina: I mean, Egyptian Mayan.
Jack: You said Mayan with a Mayan.
Cristina: And they do their own weird stuff.
Jack: Yes, they join. They become part of the Earth Gods, which we will get to. So, yeah. 12,000 years ago, following the interactions with the Judge, Jehovah, a descendant of Eloi, goes into the Shadow Realm, requesting passage to the Forest of Shadows, where he then collects all three fruits.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: 8,500 years ago, Mananan is sent to the Isle of Man to lead a team of researchers into the proclaimed fairy trees.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: Which, knowing Jehovah, is us. Now, these timelines now suddenly make a lot of sense when you put them back to back like that. Because 12,000 years ago, you have Jehovah, who finds the.
Cristina: The trees in the Shadow Realm.
Jack: Trees in the Shadow Realm. And who knows how long they've been looking for them, because the Judge already theorized they come up somewhere else.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then Jehovah shows up looking for the fruit, and then a couple of thousand years later, oh, we finally tracked them.
Cristina: Okay. Boom. Before he took the fruit, he already had the. The ones for Adam and Eve. That already happened, right?
Jack: Yeah, that's way in the past.
Cristina: Oh, okay. I wonder if the fruits somehow helped them find the. The Earth Realm version of these plants.
Jack: Fascinating.
Cristina: Fascinating, because they already used it for what we believe they needed the fruit. Score. Anyway, so why they come back for more?
Jack: Well, that's an interesting question. Right. We know that how the garden is spoken of suggests that these philosopher stones have remained with the Sea People this entire time. And we originally figured out before half of this s*** that one of the main purposes was to protect Adam and Eve.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And the fruit. So all of this is in the lab named the Garden of Eden.
Cristina: Yes. So why did he need to get more fruits? If they already had the fruits that.
Jack: They'Re protecting, why did they need more fruit?
Cristina: Probably to find it. Must have somehow helped find the actual fruits. I mean plants I guess on the Earth Realm. Because they don't really say how they found the Earth Realm version of it.
Jack: No.
Cristina: It would be weird that they just.
Jack: Happen to know that's another huge gap. Right. We have no idea what specifically took them to the Isle of Man where the fairy trees were. We just know that they do. And they put Mananan there.
Cristina: Yep. Which happens after he goes and sees those trees himself. Okay. That makes sense.
Jack: There's something there. Those fruits are guiding us somewhere. Six thousand years ago, the isle Imayn Al Bach. Close to the Isle of Man. A Sea People settlement. And then city is established near the Isle of Man. Where Mananan begins to live among other Sea People. That's to help with research. Presumably. 5,100 years ago, the Sea People share their knowledge and technology with the developing civilization of Egypt.
Cristina: Cool.
Jack: The Egyptians build a research team known as the Sun Gods with the intent to research teleportation technology, massive energy harvesting and energy storage.
Cristina: And they also work with the Shadow Realm. Besides the Sea People.
Jack: Yes. They have members that are part of that came from the Shadow Realm. And they have members that came from. They have each. It seems that every structure of a team. The best most highly developed groups of people are earthrealmers. With Shadow Realmers. With a Naga. It seems that every single one features that. Including the Sea People who are earthrealmers.
Cristina: Yes. It seems like they got the knowledge from them. We don't really know if they're like they're on their. Like physically they're with them. Like the Shadow Realm people. Just seems like they're giving them what they need to figure out whatever it is they need.
Jack: Wait. Who's on what with the what?
Cristina: The Sea People. It doesn't seem like they have an actual member that's physically they're helping them out.
Jack: Yeah, they do. We establish this.
Cristina: They do.
Jack: Oh Jehovah. Lilith and the serpent Naga named By the way. I found the f****** name of this thing. It's called Nahas.
Cristina: But those people are in the garden. They're not out in the world helping people. That's one research team yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're not in a research. There's not one in Egypt. Is there a three person hang out in the Egyptian? Oh well, no, because they just pass them the knowledge.
Jack: Well no, no, no. You're. You're discussing the Sea people, not thinking of it the proper way. Don't think of the individual species of the individuals, think of the realm they come from. That's more important because the features are the same across the board. The Mayan, the Egyptian, the Sea people, which are just one city worth of people, all are an earthrealmer, an Elfhame Realm member and a Shadow Realm member. That's where it gets interesting. The Naga are from Elfame. The in the whichever race they might be from come from the Earth Realm and they all have a Shadow Realm member with them.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: All three are featured. So it's not important that they're sea people. That just happens to be where it began.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because even when we think of the Sea people, we go far back enough and we end up at L with Sizen. So it's already two. What's weird about that is one of the big questions. Where is the Naga?
Cristina: With L and Susan?
Jack: With L and Susan. But we also don't know if Ellen Susan ever did any sciency stuff together because the moment that L gets into sciency stuff, Susan isn't mentioned anymore. Interesting. No.
Cristina: Yes. I don't know.
Jack: But you would think based on the pattern L Sizen.
Cristina: And yes, maybe there was and there's some story behind that, but it didn't end well.
Jack: Yeah, but as far as the Sea people, that part is less important when it comes to the individual groups. Because what matters to these groups as far as we know is, is that it's a Fairy Realm member, an EarthRealm member and a Shadow Realm member. And that seems to be a feature in all of the highly advanced ones.
Cristina: Kind of makes no sense that it's a Fairy Realm member. Because it seems like they're trying, I don't know, it seems like they're trying to get to the Fairy Realm, but it also seems like the Fairy Realm leader is trying to stop. Stop them from doing so. But they're also.
Jack: Here's. Here's what I will say if you look at the timeline. One, there's no proof that they're trying to get anywhere yet. And two, MAB send quite a while ago, 40,000 years ago, she sends Naga to any and all rapidly developing intelligent civilizations. That's before any form of technology allowing anything impressive has Even begun. She has no idea yet.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You see?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So it's like she still doesn't know. There's nothing to be fearful of. But it seems so far. Earth Fairy and Shadow Realm all working together. Every advanced civilization has a Shadow member and every research team has a Shadow Realm number. And. And each advanced civilization has a Naga for a reason.
Cristina: We have no clue. We have no clue. We can just guess what they're trying to do, what their end goal. What is the end goal? There's just so many experiments.
Jack: Yes. A lot of weird experiments.
Cristina: We're trying to like put them together. Somehow they fit together.
Jack: Yeah. There's a puzzle. And this is all without talking about the fact that there's many structures of abandoned civilizations and abandoned structures from successful civilizations around the old equator. We're not. Again, we're summarizing and jumping through what matters. But those were all, in theory, failed experiments that were to build a puzzle that didn't make it into the bigger plan. Yeah, those are a bunch of sky maps and compasses and sundials and studies of different portal technology, including things like Stonehenge that appear to be some sort of failed portal things. And it's like there's a lot of experiments that are just discarded a lot from civilizations that would later make it anyways. But something about them was irrelevant because now you're not gonna. You're not serving the purpose all put around the old equator.
Cristina: Why is that important?
Jack: Why is that important? There's so many questions that we can't answer. So crazy. So we got MANANAN around the 6,000 years ago. MANANAN around the freaking. The island. The Isle of Man at their individual island of Emane al Bach. Then 5,100 years ago, the Sea people start sharing their knowledge with the Egyptians. And the Egyptians begin to work on teleportation technology. Massive energy harvesting and energy storage.
Cristina: What?
Jack: They all have a Naga, a Shadow Realm person, and an Earthrealm.
Cristina: Sounds like they want to do some space traveling, but who knows.
Jack: The Sea people around this time build the palace of Alcaraz in the Persian Gulf oasis. They've been in the Persian Gulf oasis, but now they're establishing a different, complicated. Specifically described as a complicated underwater metropolis with intent to conduct comprehensive research in secrecy. 4,500 years ago, the Greek, unable to replicate the Philosopher stones or locate the fairy trees, stumble upon the concept of Adrenochrome and proceed to experiment with that instead.
Cristina: That's when they create that monster.
Jack: No, that's not even the Greek.
Cristina: Oh, okay. What did they do with that.
Jack: Then create what the people of there get to know as the Greek Gods.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Which are just a bunch of super jacked up humans. Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Bunch of lunatic. They also have Naga. Like whatever. Any advanced group of people has Naga. And they're just jacked up and hopped up on.
Cristina: On blood and fear.
Jack: 3,500 years ago, the sea people share their knowledge and technology with the developing civilization of Maya. The Maya build a research team known as the Earth Gods with intent to study data storage and portal technology.
Cristina: They do love those portal technologies. It's everywhere.
Jack: It gets complicated. Ma'.
Cristina: Am.
Jack: And we enter into 2100 years ago. Mab grows fearful of the rapidly developing technologies of the intelligent civilizations across Earth Realm and Shadow Realm and directs teams of elves to venture near every advanced civilization and assure they do not develop technology that could threaten Elfhame.
Cristina: But what examples of that have we seen? Huh?
Jack: Two thousand years ago, Jehovah's research team consisting of the Naga named Nahas and a Djinn named Lilith artificially inseminate a volunteer sea person named Mary using the fruit of Life, the fruit of knowledge, the fruit of flesh, and the two philosopher stones, Adam and Eve. Now, first major absolutely plot destroying question is what the. There should be a third philosopher's stone based on what we understand from the previous ones. If we were just to follow pattern, it maybe doesn't need one. But if we were to follow the pattern. Fifteen hundred fifteen, six thousand years ago, the fruit of life plus the philosopher's stone Adam equals the primitive humans. A hundred thousand years ago, the philosopher stone named Eve plus a fruit of knowledge equals the modern day humans. So if we're gonna create the next thing, where is the next philosopher's stone that we're using alongside the fruit of flesh. Unless that's why we're using the other two philosopher's stones.
Cristina: Because they can't make a new one. Or they don't want to.
Jack: Or maybe it would be crazy.
Cristina: It would be crazy. That's a lot of dead people.
Jack: But it happened before. Or would it happen?
Cristina: That's way more.
Jack: Because here would be the idea, right? We have Adam made from primitive. Whatever. Some primitive apes equals Adam and some primitive humans equals Eve. So use these two existing stones and don't make another stone. And is that why the product isn't perfect later, as we will establish in a moment. And so we do need a third stone. But this was trying to do it without having to do that.
Cristina: Maybe they just want to limit. Like maybe if they did do it perfect like if Jesus was perfect, then it would cause them a lot of problems as well. It could.
Jack: Cuz how do you stop them though? If you were to go rogue, then what?
Cristina: Exactly. So until they have some kind of solution, maybe he was just a test.
Jack: Fascinating. I, I like that you said that. And that is a point that we're definitely gonna have to revisit in a bit. Yes, because. Well, we'll get there. We'll get there. Good, good feedback. I did not think about that at all. And that makes a lot of f****** sense. So they go ahead and make and artificially inseminate Eve with the three fruits at eve, Mary with the three fruits and the two philosopher's stones. And then that leaves the first big question. Where's the other philosopher's stone? Based on what you just told me, perhaps there is not even a third philosopher stone. We wouldn't know need one yet. So through the course of Mary's pregnancy, people around the world begin to have visions of a child throughout all parts of his life, including being in the palace of Alcaraz in the Persian Gulf oasis. Immediate problem, if the point of the palace of Alcaraz was secrecy and people are literally seeing in their heads where this place is. Purpose defeated, ending go. So this becomes a concern to the sea people because of attempting to keep everything and their technology and their research a secret. So they devise a plan to solve.
Cristina: The problem, which is kicking Mary out, but not really because they, they care about her soul.
Jack: I guess she is one of them.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So the goal is Mary is to leave the Persian Gulf oasis before the sea people evacuate to a new, undisclosed location. Mary is to travel to the island of Cyprus, where a teleporter and escort will be waiting to take her to Mount Athos. And from Mount Athos to their new home, she is to leave the child at Cyprus. You can be raised by those people and most likely there are magi who will stay there forever with the child.
Cristina: But she doesn't really do that, but.
Jack: She doesn't make it. Mary is dispatched with a magi escort known as Joseph. Along their journey. While approaching Nazareth, a conflict made crossing too dangerous and Mary and Joseph were obligated to redirect in avoiding the conflict. They end up in Bethlehem, where Mary gives birth to the child that they named Jesus Christ. The sea people within this time, within the events of Mary evacuating, they also evacuate the entire Persian Gulf oasis and move to the Atlantic Ocean, where they establish their new home in Atlantis, aka as we now know, Elysium.
Cristina: Oh okay.
Jack: Where is that? Who the h*** knows? We just know the name. Both names, I suppose, but we don't. We know that there is a trail there, but it also goes so deep into the ocean that we have no technology that allows us to go that deep.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: We've never been down there. Weirdly enough. There's a stone path leading from Dominion. Who the f*** knows how it was constructed long as f*** ago, before technology existed, as far as we know. Which is like a good argument for like. Yeah, they're down there.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: The fact that there's a stone road just straight into the f****** Bermuda Triangle in the depth of the ocean that we've never devised technology to go deep enough into just happens to be a stone path going until we can reach and then beyond. Sweet.
Cristina: Not sus at all.
Jack: Not sus at all. Just some s*** that's there. And then we're like, no, we've always been the most advanced thing. Like bro, then how the f*** did that get down there? Unless the water level has raised infinitely and like that was just dry land before.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: But like where the f*** did all the water come from then? Yeah, and if it's like a meteor, why didn't it destroy the planet? Simple. Okay. The Sea People extract Mount Kaaf, which is an access point and portal between Maya Egypt and the palace of Alcaraz. An anti magic barrier is established around Mount Athos to prevent elves and Elfame individuals from passage. Important. They're trying to protect themselves. Three additional Magi are sent to Mary to assist her in watching over Jesus and assure that he never reaches the Sea People. As well as suppress all knowledge of the Sea People, including the origins of Jesus himself. Now we're entering into more Recent times. The 30s.
Cristina: The 30s, okay, yeah.
Jack: Year 30ish. After Jesus began to be known by those listening to his message and those having visions of him. The Magi needed to begin a suppression effort before Jesus was exposes the truth problems. The Mangi communicate with two of Jesus's closest friends that later Jesus himself labels as f****** traitors, which are John and Peter. John is enlisted to create a false narrative of which he failed the first time. Which is where we got John's secret writings or whatever the h***. And Peter is enlisted to create the Catholic Church in the name of Jesus. Okay, Jesus was not down with this. Jesus was a freaking Jew. But they were like, yeah, yeah, Jesus wants us and the narrative will remain that way. They have successfully adjusted it so that the Catholic Church believes Jesus is the establisher of that and most of the world believes, okay, the Catholic Church is the only church Jesus has ever established.
Cristina: But who is. Whose plan is it for Jesus to die young? Is it Jesus? Is it the sea people? Is it something else?
Jack: So they come up with a plan. And the plan is basically to establish this church and shut Jesus the f*** up with murder. It seems it's. It was probably the same people.
Cristina: Yes. Okay.
Jack: They were like, this kid's become a problem and we didn't want it to get to this, but d***. But also, you created a monster with a bunch of exaggerated powers and you offed him and all he did was come back.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So what? That's where the interesting part you're talking about immediately comes in if they're trying to add a control mechanism. Because if something goes wrong, then how do we stop it? Well, it's already out of your control because you killed him and he just popped up again.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: Not only was he far ahead of you in that he could just land in the Shadow Realm after you kill them to shut him the up, but he's also so intelligent and wields Shadow Realm powers that he somehow figured out how to build Shinto gates and walk right back.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: D***, bro. You guys created a monster. Yeah, they tried to solve it.
Cristina: They did. They thought they had. I'm sure they thought they figured everything out before actually making him like. Okay, we got.
Jack: No, I'm thinking this is actually where you're correct. And the lack of a third philosopher's stone was to avoid making him perfect because they hadn't figured it all out.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Because if they did winging it.
Cristina: But they were really curious. They're really, really.
Jack: Science is problematic.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Like Tom York's song Dreamer suggest. Science is going to be the f****** death of us and we're gonna dream beyond our control. And that could in theory be what Jesus is.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: A really like, come on. They actively refuse to complete it into perfection because what if s*** goes wrong and then instantaneously s*** went wrong.
Cristina: Yeah. It was probably way worse than they expected for something that's not even perfect.
Jack: Yo, the kid's not even born yet and now people just know where you live.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: D***, bro.
Cristina: Yeah. Because with just Mary, what they made was kind of crazy. At least compared to their evolution. Our evolution was ridiculous.
Jack: Yeah, it was fast. Fast.
Cristina: So of course the next step would be. Whoa.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah.
Cristina: A blink of an eye pretty much.
Jack: Which is what's happening with Jesus.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: The exponential growth, understanding and level up.
Cristina: This kid went through a million to what were we.
Jack: We're talking. Yeah, we're talk. Three billion years.
Cristina: Billions to millions, right?
Jack: Yeah. Then we come in from those that took the sea. People took billions. Then the primitive humans took millions. Then our humanity is only taken thousands. And then Jesus was 30 years before he became fully aware of his capacities.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It was like 30 years from billion. Yeah. From birth to. Oh, I got powers.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Was only 30 years.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then it's like, oh, get in contact with this friends. Get in contact with his. Everybody. Everybody close. Whoever the is around this m***********.
Cristina: The way everyone was dreaming about him, maybe he could also dream about them. Like, how did he know about the shadow Realm? I guess is my thinking.
Jack: Yeah. Nobody told him.
Cristina: No one told him.
Jack: But also we know that people who drink adrenochrome can hear the voices of creatures from the shadow realm. He is made of the shadow Realm. He is just in commute. They can't control it. He's just in communication with over there. As his abilities developed and grew and got complicated. He's just connecting and talking to these m************ over there.
Cristina: Yes. But we don't know if he has any connection to the fairy world.
Jack: We have no idea. As far as we know, he doesn't.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Which luckily those restrictions were in place.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because that could have been even more problematic. If he has that level of power, then how do you stop him ever?
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Oh, it's crazy.
Cristina: That's crazy. Okay.
Jack: Problems for days. 30 years, bro. That's it. 30 years. From billions to 30 years.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we established John, he's gonna start making lies. And we get Peter, he's also gonna start making lies. But he's gonna do it in an organized fashion. The guy writing, I've been with Jesus. And the guy like, Jesus told me to make this church. Okay. Additionally, in secrecy, two plans are established. One, we gotta kill Jesus. They did. Without knowing you kind of succeeded too well. And he just pops up again. Because he was also still connecting and discussing. He built these bridges and walked right back in.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Second, the Knights Templar are established in secrecy a hundred years after Jesus is born. And their entire job is to eradicate all information on Jesus Christ and push a new narrative about his existence. Now we're making leaps. The Six hundreds. Greek scientist Zosimos discovers the magnum opus within ruins along the coast of the Persian Gulf oasis. And in it are the instructions to creating the Philosopher's Stones.
Jack: Although unhappy that the sea people refused to share their technology with them, the Greek are obligated to Establish regular resource trades with the sea people via regular visits through Mount Athos.
Cristina: Yes. Where they get to see unicorns.
Jack: Yes. Which is actually where this began for us. 900s Vikings Discover the uses of adrenochrome and proceed to experiment, thus leading to the norse overpowered individuals. 1100s till the 1100s. Now the knights Templar become a publicly known group and their methods become ruthless as opposing information on Jesus Christ continues to be pushed by smaller groups. And presumably Jesus somewhere hiding amongst them himself.
Cristina: When do we get to. I don't know if it's. I guess after this. The Jesus attempt.
Jack: That's still getting there.
Cristina: Oh, wow. Okay.
Jack: Actually now is exactly when what you just mentioned comes in, which is the 1500s.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Rabbi Leo in the attic of the Old New Synagogue succeeds in making a golem named Joseph with abilities identify identical to that of Jesus Christ. One he could control and deactivate. But this golem could come in and out of the shadow realm.
Cristina: Maybe he was the better version of Jesus because he seems like he is what they wanted, something that they can control. And Jesus, this definitely was not that. And also everyone was dreaming about him. Like there's so much bad.
Jack: There's a lot wrong with Jesus.
Cristina: But this golem thing seems like exactly what they were aiming for and did not get. Well, they were way off the mark.
Jack: Presumably the idea of making Jesus was because we need him to be biological so that we can then alter ourselves to match whatever composition he has. Which you cannot do with this golem.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: They'll never be able to do.
Cristina: No.
Jack: What the golem does. Yeah, they can control the golem, but they can't emulate the golem.
Cristina: Yeah, interesting.
Jack: With Jesus you have your own DNA.
Cristina: Yeah. And with the golem, he was created most likely from a shadow realm creature. Told this guy how to do it right. Or something like.
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was instructions that he used. They, they did, they performed the weird. They had weird rituals to begin with. Yeah. And they began to hear the voice, presumably of a God.
Cristina: Question mark.
Jack: Something from the shadow realm.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now here's what's interesting about this. Here's what's very interesting about this. If you remember the sun gods, there is a traitor amongst them, Abraxas, who stole the data and dipped into the shadow realm. That happened way, way, way long ago, before the birth of Jesus by quite a time, thousands of years ahead. Maybe this same individual, which is one of these overpowered, immortal like ancient Egyptians.
Cristina: He'S into science, as we can tell.
Jack: Is who was talking.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: To this individual. Alternatively, could have been Jesus himself.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's just something from the shadow realm. Talking to them doesn't mean it's a shadow creature. It's just something in the shadow realm. There's a direct connection with something because of their rituals.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And they gave them the instructions on how to create this golem that then had the ability to come in and out of the shadow realm.
Cristina: And then something weird happened with that golem.
Jack: Yes, but that happens no time soon. Because after the golem's creation we skip forward to the 1760s.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Where a Greek merchant named Antonio Dracos is handed alicorn by a Russian named John, claiming to have gotten it from Mount Athos.
Cristina: What a wild adventure.
Jack: He goes on a crazy adventure where he just. People just find out about this thing. And a war breaks out between Russia and Turkey just trying to get it. Murder everywhere. People trying to get to this guy. He establishes a school in secrecy and get gathers together the most elite elite scholars to study this thing. And doesn't work out. Eventually he dies. But in.
Cristina: Even though it's supposed to keep people living forever or something like that, everyone that gets its hand, their hand on it somehow dies. Like it's kind of weird, but. Okay.
Jack: Now here's a thing. We're assuming that a unicorn is in fact a fairy and not a sea person experiment. Because what really is up with. Unless it's not a. Here's he would be the other argument. They do have the fruits. Maybe they're making a crap ton of experiments. Bro.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And the unicorn is just some fairy magic sea person experiment.
Cristina: Yes. Because the fruits relate to the fairies somehow. Because the trees are called fairy trees, even though we don't know how they're related to the fairies. But. Yes.
Jack: Which is one of our main questions. How are the fairy trees made?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And your theory makes a lot of sense. Is it buried fairies? Which I think there's something. No, it can't be. No. Well, I don't know. Because you use the philosopher's stone plus the fruit to create people. But you don't need the fruit to create the philosopher's stone. So you can use a philosopher's stone that bends reality to perhaps kill a fairy, which should in theory not be able to die because you're bending reality. The philosopher's stone can kill a fairy.
Cristina: You think the philosopher's stone could kill the fairy?
Jack: I think it can make life, and I think it could take life.
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: It is, as the magnum opus describes, a thing that allows you to do Whatever the h*** you want.
Cristina: Yeah. It doesn't mention fairy murder, does it?
Jack: No, but it breaks the laws of nature. And if nature suggests that fairies cannot die, then with a philosopher still can kill a fairy. Which would then create an interesting argument. If El got into the Forest of Shadows, where fairy trees all ready existed, and he was told about the Shadow Realm by Yalda, and he was. And he get. And Yalda gifted Susan the Shadow Realm. What was Yalda running from? Why did he disappear? Second, did Yalda make the Forest of Shadows?
Cristina: You're thinking he killed some fairies?
Jack: I'm thinking killed fairies. I'm thinking Yalda has a Philosopher's Stone that he made in the Shadow Realm?
Cristina: I don't know, because I.
Jack: When Sizzen, the son of Yalda, considered the God of Death. Yeah, why?
Cristina: Why? Oh, okay.
Jack: Who died?
Cristina: Did fairies die in the Shadow Realm?
Jack: In the fairies die, how was the stone made? How's the stone is the original philosopher's stone made out of a mass grave of djinn.
Cristina: Wait, the original as in atom or. You're saying there's no.
Jack: There's one before him that Yalda had billions of years before even L existed?
Cristina: That made the sea People?
Jack: No. Well, maybe.
Cristina: Well, that was the first thing he did. He made human. I mean, he made. Or the Earth Realm, and then he messed with.
Jack: Oh, checks out, doesn't it? Oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense, actually. So he already had one, and then he killed fairies with it? Most likely. And then made the forest, and then came and made the sea People with this primitive, ancient, outdated version of a philosopher's stone.
Cristina: Okay, maybe.
Jack: Holy maybe.
Cristina: I don't know, but it sounds right.
Jack: Whoa.
Cristina: It matches everything.
Jack: Yeah. If we were to follow a pattern, then yes. You made life with the Philosopher Stone.
Cristina: That seems like how it's done. Yeah.
Jack: Interesting. Which, in theory, could be how he killed fairies and thus made the Forest of Shadows.
Cristina: But he's not the one Yelda Yalda.
Jack: Made the Forest of Shadows, but he's.
Cristina: Is he the one that's called the God of Death?
Jack: No, Susan is. Okay, but Susan didn't make the Force of Shadows. He was also curious about it. But he was handed this by his father, and everybody knew that guy, so presumably they were both referred to as the God of Death. He's the son of the God of Death.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: And since he's in charge now, he's also the God of Death.
Cristina: Okay, yes, that makes sense.
Jack: But his father is the one who sacrificed many jinn, hence earning a name the God of Death. And Then he created this primitive philosopher's stone. And then he used that philosopher's stone to kill fairies and created the Forest of Shadows. And then that. Maybe that allowed him to create Earthrealm as well. Yeah, maybe the killing fairies in the killing fairies, burying them not only brought the tree, but it created some other thing.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Elsewhere. That he then used to create Earth Realm.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And then he went to Earth Realm to mess with. Was there using the philosopher's stone that he used to kill the fairies. And then he made the sea people. The sea people made the philosopher stones that allowed them to make us.
Cristina: Because how did they get it? Yes. I feel like there is something there. I feel like that's right.
Jack: I can look into that. But how? The. The problem is, the further back we.
Cristina: Go, the less information we have, the.
Jack: Less somebody needed to mention loosely, something. Because now we're getting to beyond any. Anything written beyond any. Like this is just a line or a sentence or a picture at this point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like that's far, far back. Of course, narratives do make it through time, so who knows? 1820s, two Greek record keepers also have somehow come in contact with Alicorn and claim it also came from Mount Athos. 1880, shortly before the Old New Synagogue is renovated, three Magi visit and leave shortly thereafter. The golem is then reported missing. Another weird question. They showed up with six boxes.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And they left with six boxes. Not big boxes.
Cristina: Buried the boxes.
Jack: And then they buried the boxes in a weird formation and dipped.
Cristina: Yes, except it doesn't make sense comparing the size of the golem and the boxes. Right.
Jack: No, it makes absolutely no sense. The boxes were absolutely tiny. They're about a square foot each. The golem was f****** huge. It was like 20ft tall.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: Of course there's a connection, but I don't know what it is.
Jack: Some things are just weird questions.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: 1984, the Tanker War begins over the Persian Gulf. Disguises a trade route war secretly attempting to take ownership of the waters over the palace of Alcaraz at the Persian Gulf oasis. And one of the Most recent events, 2001. An unknown group uses the United States government to organize the collapse of the World Trade center in an attempt to create a philosopher's stone by sacrificing over 2,000 thousand modern day humans.
Cristina: Which would make a nice philosopher stone.
Jack: Which would make a pretty nice philosopher stone. That brings us essentially to the modern day.
Cristina: Yep. So there's still philosopher's stones being made? Maybe.
Jack: Yes. Well, there's. Yes, likely there's another example of a possible attempt to create the philosopher's stone. And that's the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Allegedly dropped on Hiroshima. And then there's. I don't have any clue. That's a really good question.
Cristina: It's a hundred and 40,000 people.
Jack: 140,000 modern humans. D***. Okay, so here are our arguments for this. These. The contrast between these two situations. You go ahead and you bomb a hundred thousand modern day humans, you sacrifice them and you get one philosopher's stone. Right? Mad sacrifice. You get one philosopher. So that's a pretty hefty philosopher. So but when we're talking about the World Trade center, we're talking about elites, right? Maybe a lot of those people had access to adrenochrome. So we're talking about beyond the modern. We're sacrificing enhanced modern day humans. So with less you get more done. Would that make sense? Because they all got ichor.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so you don't need a hundred thousand. So the argument is, we're over here talking about philosopher stones, but how many are there by now? If all of these major events are the creation of another one, then there are ton. Bare minimum dozens.
Cristina: But how important is that to them when they also have, like we said, ichor and the other ones very different.
Jack: Because there are the people who are addicted to these substances and must rely on them. And the clever individuals who create the philosopher's stone don't have the addiction and can still have all the benefits as well as do much more. Somebody on adrenochrome cannot create life. Somebody with a philosopher's stone can.
Cristina: But why are they making life? Or that's not their goal? The people that are doing.
Jack: No, there's just way more abilities. You're thinking way too narrowly. There's way more ability to philosopher's stone. The point isn't literally making life. It's the fact that the philosopher's stone can do way more by miles than adrenochrome can. And in theory, a philosopher's stone will allow you passage into the shadow realm without you having to die. Which then brings up another interesting question. Did the Jews have a philosopher's stone? Thus Joseph the Golem was possible. Were there other parts involved there that we're not aware of? Well, no, because then they themselves would have been able to answer the.
Cristina: Yeah, shadow realm.
Jack: No, then they didn't. That means that more than so wow. Either way, right? Because it took the sea people how long first billions of years for a yalda to get a philosopher's Stone. Then millions of years for the sea people to get philosopher stones. Then just f****** no time. We just. Thousands of years. Boom. We got philosopher stones. Now we could just make them casually. We figured it out.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Six hundreds. Zosimos finds the instructions to do it. Now in modern day, we just casually sacrifice mass groups of people and make philosopher stones all the time. 9, 11, Hiroshima. Whatever the h*** is happening in Iraq and Iran, Afghanistan. All these places that we're just mass killing for the people who don't have the instructions on how to make philosopher's stones. Mass breeding grounds for adrenochrome.
Cristina: Yes. There's a lot going on.
Jack: Shortcuts.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: If we don't get the adrenochrome, we're gonna figure it out anyways. F*** it.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: D***.
Cristina: Like the island.
Jack: And that catches us up to the modern day. That's a nice summary of what's happening. And there are still questions. But what's interesting here is one. Jesus was. There's probably no third philosopher's stone in the making of Jesus. Maybe the intention was to limit him and he's still out of control.
Cristina: Yeah, that sounds like it.
Jack: That's interesting.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Second, that's clever. I didn't think about Yalda having his own philosopher's stone, but it makes sense.
Cristina: Makes sense.
Jack: Why are there trees connecting two realms? Unless those trees were part of the making of the other realm. It was just two realms for who knows how long. And Yalda sacrificed a bunch of his own. Had overpowered abilities because of the stone he got from it. Killed some fairies with it. Made the forest. The forest somehow gapped into another bubble dimension. And he established Earthrealm in that he.
Cristina: Looks like a God because of all that. Which makes me wonder about Meb. What's her name?
Jack: Mab.
Cristina: Mab. Like what is she doing things like this before any of this happened? Like.
Jack: Like how did she create. Yeah. That's another thing. The further back in time in our own realm, we go the fuzzier. Because where are we getting the data from?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then as soon as we even like modern day, we just think about the shadow realm. Our best examples are very, very, very recent of creatures that come through in mass events. Or it just gets fuzzy. Quick. Quick.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then we have nothing on elv. So there's a lot of question marks surrounding a lot of this. We don't know a crap ton.
Cristina: No. But that's all we do know.
Jack: That's all we do know.
Cristina: And that's a lot.
Jack: That's as it stands. So that's the summary for anybody. I think I'll call it the summary because it's more helpful.
Cristina: What were you gonna call it before?
Jack: As it stands.
Cristina: Well, as it sounds okay, maybe it's.
Jack: As it stands, the summary.
Cristina: Is that too complicated?
Jack: I don't know. I mean, not too complicated, but too long, you mean?
Cristina: Yes. Or how do you. What about the summary? As it stands.
Jack: Oh, yeah, the summary as it stands. Fair enough. Whatever. Some variant of those.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Anyways, that's for anybody new strolling through who wanted to not have to go through a thousand million episodes just like. Just like 15 to 20 episodes of this crap right now. Just kind of piecing this mess together. So here is a solution for that. And now you don't have to go back through all those hours and hours. You should if you want details. There's so many details missing. So much crap is missing. And like how the Greek get involved and all of their creatures and the Norse and all of their creatures and the details about these Greek record keepers and all the crap that happened around Antonio Drive. That's probably one of the most interesting messes. Did you want real detail? Antonio, Draco and the entire clusterfuck of s*** that happened around that guy, the schools he established, the people that died around him, the people that tried time to get to him, all of the above. Anyways, if you guys come up with anything, find anything, you do research and you have tips to give us or directions to send us to find more information, let us know. Yes, you can let us know on all our socials at just Convopod. That's on X, on TikTok, on Instagram, on Facebook, wherever.
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