Rambling 188: NASA UFOs
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Why did the pentagon feel the need to address the public about these objects? Is this a sign of more to come? NASA publicly declared its interest in repurposing satellites to assist with UFO investigations within our own atmosphere. The duo discuss and attempt to understand where this rabbit-hole leads.
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- NASA
- UFO Sightings
- Satellite Views
- Germs vs Sterile Aliens
- Universal Translator
- A.I. Programming
- Highly Advanced Stellar Scanner
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling podcast. The show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. I am your host Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
Jack: Yes. And today we got something interesting. Look, look. Aliens, man.
Jack: Yeah. They're coming. They're coming.
Cristina: Aren't they here already?
Jack: Well no. Here's what's interesting. So NASA releases this weird statement stating that they are now going to officially, within the public knowledge, start aiming telescopes at UFOs. They want to see if our existing technology can catch some of this s*** that has happened before. We weren't already aiming these at anything of this nature, but now we, there's a, there's a program now this is just gonna start aiming at satellites to see. Maybe you can see, what the f*** is it called? Maybe you can see like the ship on thermal if you already caught like a visual of it, you know. So you're gonna try to cross reference and see if we already have existing technology that's gonna find all this stuff that is interesting. And if it is, we can corroborate a lot of the information. Like if this satellite was already looking at this direction on this date when above ground we saw this thing, can we find it in the record? Is that UFO also recorded here?
Cristina: Is there a reason why they didn't care before or they weren't doing anything about it before though. Like was it because they didn't want people panic or they didn't believe themselves? Like nah, there could just be something wrong with our. Whatever that's reading it or whatever. Like they were coming up with excuses, not wanting to believe that there is.
Jack: Something weird going on probably. I have an idea. I don't know why they didn't or what, or what's going on, but I know that they are now going to.
Cristina: Start doing something about it.
Jack: Doing something. Looking at these areas, looking at whether we can spot things of this nature, aiming them at other spots that we think things are going to be at and the possibility that we're going to try to build bait to get some things apparent. Okay, so there is a once in a while, I guess it's pretty consistent that anytime nuclear weaponry is being transported there is a higher report of UFOs in general. And it usually seems to be there maybe observing nuclear weapons being moved. So the idea would be to bait them and then aim satellites into that direction.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So the transport intentionally nuclear things to see if Things pop up while we're aiming all different kinds of things at the region where we're moving the thing.
Cristina: That is awesome.
Jack: Smart.
Cristina: Yes. I wonder what it is because what if it's not UFOs? What if it's actual like aliens that are attracted to nuclear stuff and. Yeah, like off of it.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's not even like tech. Maybe it's just a creature truly coming the feet off of it is kind of crazy, right? Who knows?
Cristina: Yeah. We have no idea why or what, what, where, when.
Jack: Yeah, no, it's definitely an interesting thing. And I know we've, we talked about, we talk a lot about aliens on the show. We talk about different perspectives on alien. Different as, as well as how we would find life in a situation where we have no knowledge of alien life. Like what, what, what are the mistakes that scientists have made in the past about that. We've had all these conversations before, but it's fascinating to have an official agency like NASA just say, okay, not just we have a bunch of meaningless other crap about aliens. No, no, no. Now we're actively gonna aim our telescopes and try to find them on the surface of our planet. Even if something like digging on Mars is intentionally for the same idea. Because we're trying to find micro biology there.
Cristina: On Mars and on the moon.
Jack: Yes, on Mars.
Cristina: They're doing stuff on the moon too, I think, but maybe not the same thing.
Jack: I forget what it is they're doing on, on the moon. I know there are like a bunch of experiments as well as I believe there is the construction of a like station on the dark side, particularly by China, because they want to observe the side of the moon regularly, doesn't face Earth. They're going to like, you know, scan things from that position and whatever. So there are some interesting things happening. But like when it comes to tracking UFOs.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Finding aliens perhaps on the surface of our planet.
Cristina: That is so crazy. From all places it would turn out to be would be here. But then again, would that be aliens? If we found out it was creatures who are attracted to nuclear waste that just. We've never seen them anywhere else. Like how do we know that it came from somewhere? Like if we were somehow able to catch this thing and it happened to be an animal of some kind, whatever it may be, like how do we know where it came from? There's like we can test it out through their DNA.
Jack: I guess if it has definite, some sort of link back to our own DNA, then yeah, we know it's from Earth factually. But if it had zero of our DNA, that doesn't mean it's not from Earth. It could just be the other thing that came up here. Again, there were other things, you know, like there was a regular caveman, Neanderthal and like, bullshit like that. That people got that in their DNA. There's some people who absolutely don't and some people. Yeah. So it could be the same. There could be just some other deviation.
Cristina: Yeah. But we'd be able to tell though, right? Like we would be able to tell that it came from here or somewhere else.
Jack: No. How would we be able to tell? Just because it doesn't share our DNA doesn't mean it wasn't born on Earth.
Cristina: There has to be something that they're able to tell that.
Jack: I mean, if it breathes oxygen, I guess.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: If it's. If it could survive out here.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And not need some sort of technological support to do so. It's possible it's from around here.
Cristina: Mm. Because it's such a. Like, who knows? But that'd be so cool if it did turn out to be some type of animal. But if it's a ufo, then what? I mean, not a ufo, but, you know, like a spacecraft, whatever.
Jack: What do you mean? Then what?
Cristina: Like, do we try to communicate with it?
Jack: I mean, we probably will, but the amount of progress we make is really dependent more on them because they're the ones with the technology to make it this far. So we're not really in the position to do much.
Cristina: Not really. It's probably would be wrong to try to mess with it or something. Like they. If they actually try to capture something, that probably is the wrong move.
Jack: Us try to capture it?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Oh, no. That would be so nuts. If we try to capture a freaking alien.
Cristina: That'd be crazy.
Jack: That would be nuts. It doesn't make any sense. We don't have the technology to capture the, like, these ideas that we have. Ever caught a f****** alien? Like, no way, dude. That doesn't make any. That doesn't check out. We ourselves could barely just make it to our own local s***. You're telling me some crap. Traversed all the way from wherever?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And we just dominated it. Get out of here.
Cristina: Or it just crash landed on us.
Jack: There doesn't make any sense. An alien who traversed space has never seen a planet with atmosphere. Come on.
Cristina: Yeah. That would be so crazy. Had the technology to get here and then just die immediately.
Jack: Yeah. World War. War of the worlds. Get here plan. Thousands, maybe before the birth of humanity, you might have made humans to then dominate them later when you rise up and then you did and germs killed you. It was just a way futile plan.
Cristina: Yes. Like so thought out, except for that one tiny thing. But okay.
Jack: Yeah, I don't know. It's. That's a real flawed alien if it ever played out that way, you know.
Cristina: I hope it doesn't fly out that way. It would be hilarious and sad.
Jack: Yeah, but it is what it is. I mean, alien life is weird. We. I don't know, like, I guess to say that it's. That they're dumb or something at that point doesn't make sense. You still got where you were going.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And it's like you still outsmarted us. Maybe it just doesn't make sense.
Cristina: You just can't think. I mean, it just couldn't think of everything. It thought of a lot of things out of a lot and just wasn't prepared for.
Jack: Yeah, maybe germs are such an afterthought for them.
Cristina: Yeah. There's no way, though. There's no way. Germs is the thing.
Jack: It would have to be because there. There should be combinations, genetic combinations. But no, they should have the means to fight whatever.
Cristina: Yeah. If you say no. Germs is a thing. It would be crazy if they come from a place that war of the.
Jack: Worlds does not make any sense. And it can't. It doesn't. It can't check out. It can't check out because they should have been able to fight anything. You have a lot of technology, bro. You should be able to fight anything that a human can't handle.
Cristina: It would be so crazy to not, I don't know, all the technology to do all this incredible stuff and then just like, oh, we forgot about that. We don't have that. No way. They have to. They have to. I don't know.
Jack: Yes, I mean, like, obviously they need to have, like. Again, they're traversing the tremendously vast and distant space. There's no way in. F*** that they do. Just didn't handle germs.
Cristina: They have to travel through time and space.
Jack: What?
Cristina: They have to travel through time and space. I mean, have that type of technology.
Jack: No, not really. If you can move, like if you could warp space and you don't need kind of to travel quickly and you need to manage time or really even space other than bending it. That's the shortcut, Right. Like, we can't travel fast and faster than light. It's too much energy. Yeah, but we're clever enough to come up with ways around that problem. We don't have to move faster. We just need to move space around us. And space isn't moving faster, but it's way farther than light can travel in less time. So if I can move the space around me the right way, get farther than light can in any amount of time.
Cristina: Well, that's pretty cool. If we could do that.
Jack: Yeah. And they should have, in theory, the ability to dish it too. Again, anything that we can imagine, that we can conceive of, that we can even practice a little, they have to have mastered if they can traverse f****** space.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's the reality of the matter. There's too much distance from anywhere. Anywhere doesn't matter where you're coming from. And, like, everything is farther than the next thing.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You know? So it doesn't matter what the h*** it is. If it got here, it's amazing.
Cristina: Has to be.
Jack: If it got here within one lifetime, it's amazing.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We just dismissed a ship that we sent out in the 70s, and it just left a couple of years ago. Our star system. That's how long it's been traveling. It's been like, 50 years. So at the end of the day, like an alien that came from the other side of the galaxy. If you managed to do it in one lifespan and it took it just a couple of weeks, I'm assuming it's not taking it a day. Can you imagine if it did? That's energy, bro. That's power. That's science. That's whatever the h*** they're using. It's working. Yeah, because you're traversing tremendous distances now. Is this what we're seeing? Is this the UFOs? Is this visitors?
Cristina: Is it? I don't know. Hard to tell.
Jack: There have been many cases of UFOs over the years. But, like, what holds credibility, right?
Cristina: But that's the weird thing about UFOs is, like. Well, it just means you don't know what it is.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. UFOs don't necessarily mean alien. It just means unidentified.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it could be either or.
Cristina: Mm. So, like, I don't know. I mean, like, we'll figure it out.
Jack: I. Oh, I'm sure we will. That's the nature of how things work.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like, we're gonna figure it out.
Cristina: That's not a real science.
Jack: Always.
Cristina: Always.
Jack: Yeah, that's the very duh conclusion. Like, of course. Yeah.
Cristina: I'm hoping some kind of alien animal somehow.
Jack: Okay. An alien animal. It would just be an Earth animal that we've never seen before.
Cristina: Okay. Yes. An undiscovered animal that works so different from anything you've ever seen before.
Jack: Undiscovered, perfect sense. Just alien. Does not. We didn't get an unless. It could traverse the space itself and not die. It needs to be able to not require any kind of oxygen.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It just needs to survive off of space dust, essentially.
Cristina: Well, that'd be crazy, because if it turned out to be something like that, then we could look up in the sky and find it out there traveling.
Jack: Additionally, it's like, what could it eat? Right. If it's just out there eating space dust casually, there's a plethora of things that, like, it must be or maybe doesn't eat at all. That's really strange. Could it be organic and in space without oxygen would be the question. Right. Do all organic creatures require oxygen? I think so, because carbon plus oxygen is.
Cristina: What if it doesn't need oxygen?
Jack: Well, it wouldn't need oxygen then, I suppose. I mean, like, if it didn't need oxygen, it probably doesn't need oxygen.
Cristina: That's not what I mean.
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: Like, what if it needs whatever it is that. What was it? The nuclear stuff? Like, what if it eats off that? Eats that?
Jack: If it eats. Then I guess all our nuclear plants on Earth are in danger because there's way more of that already.
Cristina: Yeah. No, I think they would notice something eating off of them yet. That couldn't be like that if it was attracted to it. There's no way it's also eating it and no one noticed.
Jack: Yeah, there's huge holes in that entire logic.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. It doesn't check out a lot of things. It is not gonna be by default. Like, it can't be. It doesn't make any sense.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: A lot of motivations will also not. Like, it's can't. It's not just, well, I'm hungry and I'll go eat the thing. There's. There's interest in nuclear technology.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Maybe you're trying to see how close we are to fusion, but I wonder.
Cristina: Like, even if it. Like, does it even matter? I. Like, what is its goal? In the end of the day, just.
Jack: We would never know because we haven't seen it and we can't talk to it.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, even if we see it, we can't talk to it.
Jack: We don't know that it might be able to talk to us. Again, assumptions. It traversed space. It hasn't figured out how to communicate with s***. It comes across.
Cristina: No, I mean, like, it might not want to.
Jack: Oh, in that case, yeah, but it's not that that it's impossible. Again, it traversed space. It must have encountered enough life that it has some technology that can just auto understand any variant of attempt to communicate. And it's just like, well this, this plus that, okay, it's talking and it's trying to say this. It won't give our, it won't know our languages called English, you know, but it'll understand because whatever context clues it's you the computer is using is feeding it back perfectly.
Cristina: Translator?
Jack: Yeah, from space.
Cristina: Space? Yeah, thing the Star Trek people have.
Jack: Yeah, pretty much the translator. Tap it, bloop and then just start talking.
Cristina: Mm. I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to figure it out. I mean, just started to figure what out? Them spying on. Not, not spying. Them finally deciding we gotta look into these things. Like NASA deciding.
Jack: I mean, I feel like the whole point of Mars was that too like digging for water and s***. That's about fighting life.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: It's just adding more layers to finding life. That's really what's happening. It's not that they weren't looking for life, but now they're dedicating these big a** satellites to it as well. And maybe as a result that just means that they're going to have more in. I mean, I guess not inconclusive, but more conclusive data in larger sums, right? Dedicating more resources, more energy, more focus. And then NASA is dedicating these ginormous satellites of all different types, you know, thermal, some are radio wave. What is radiation grabbing? Freaking. We got, what are the different kinds of satellites? Well, whatever satellites of different sorts. Right. There is infra regular landscape shots and everything. We should in theory be able to see whatever the f*** we want to see is the ultimate point of the goal here. And it's all in the chase in the pursuit of that life. The same way we're doing with digging on Mars or trying to see if Europa has anything. You know, it's all the same idea. We are looking for life. But NASA is only now getting the satellites involved on an official scale. As opposed to. Well, we were already in the area. No, it's like, hey, let's really start documenting Earth. Earth, yes. And maybe things in space too. Who the h*** knows? It's just, you know, we have UFO footage here and we've had satellite saving in those directions. We just need access to that data and we need to have in the future when somebody, when there's a pilot reporting, oh, there's some weird s*** happening Right now we should be able to just tune into that very location because we have the satellites. And that's the idea. That's the ultimate goal, to have a division ded to studying this thing. And I believe it's gonna take like a few months of studying, you know, eight, nine months of just really going in on it and seeing what they can come up with.
Cristina: With just what's on earth though, I guess.
Jack: I don't know, there's a bunch of stuff. Stuff. They're just using satellites. I don't know in all the directions, but they're using satellites for UFOs is the conclusion.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Probably most likely for a lot of earth stuff because that's where the UFOs are. But I doubt exclusively because how. What a monument is waste of time to finally officially be able to record data about looking for aliens of any sort. And you're like, yeah, except I'm not gonna aim it at space. Somehow I feel like that won't happen.
Cristina: I mean we were probably already.
Jack: No, no, no, no. We're aiming at space for sure. But you mean like looking for life?
Cristina: Yeah, probably.
Jack: I mean here's the thing. We look for what the math told us as opposed to what we might just see.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: NASA statement is about what we might just see.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Math didn't say there would be s*** there, but we're gonna aim it there anyways because the pilot says there's something there.
Cristina: Okay, you see?
Jack: So that logic should be applied to space as well, I'm assuming instead of just. Well, math says it's probably gonna be water based. Planet is gonna have this kind from wherever and it should have this temperature and move this fast and blah blah, blah, blah.
Cristina: Locations.
Jack: Well no, that's also my man. It's a waste of time. Yeah, it would be wherever we would find similar things to what we consider the UFOs. You know UFOs like to go to where there's high energy, like to hang out over large empty areas. If we find crap like that on other planets in space, areas like that.
Cristina: We can find instead of just Earth like planets. Yeah, okay.
Jack: Huge. Not just Earth like planets or things that aren't like Earth like, but I'm seeing the behaviors we get from these footages will allow us to then aim the satellites more accurately and other destinations that aren't necessarily just on earth then replicate assuming if this then that. But not based on math, rather based on our observations of these existing UFO videos that we cannot identify.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we're going to use them, build Pattern recognition and then aim the satellite to where the pattern says it would be. And this has nothing to do with like equals MC squared or some s***.
Cristina: Okay. It's just based off of what we're saying.
Jack: It's based off of what we're seeing and trying to find it. Again, on top of staging s***. Like I said, if there's been. It's been recorded and reported that oftentimes are in nuclear transportation, there are significantly more sightings. It's heightened usually in the region where the transportation is happening. So there are ways also bait these creatures to get additional information. And then after we bait whatever's showing up, it could just be earthlings that's just buying Russia over here with some crazy. Never told them. Who knows? But we see them, see us, and then we study them while they're studying us. And then we apply that to elsewhere where we're not seeing them.
Cristina: And then we will most likely hopefully see them.
Jack: That, I guess. I don't know, maybe other places. Any information is better than nothing. So if there's anything we find that's good.
Cristina: Yeah, but like, if this helps us find things somewhere else, that'd be amazing.
Jack: Yeah, for sure.
Cristina: Like on Mars, hopefully. That'd be crazy. There's always people looking at Mars. I wonder if they still do that. They probably still do that.
Jack: People looking at Mars.
Cristina: Yeah, like when they had the rover there recording everything, they would bring. They would have the live streaming and then you could just watch Mars all day if you felt like it.
Jack: Oh, that's interesting. You can actually do that to the International Space Station. That's just all on YouTube. You could watch it live at any given moment.
Cristina: Oh, so then maybe like if a UFO ever passes by that. That'd be crazy.
Jack: That would be crazy. But like, how would they know? They would. They would need to be looking specifically at the moment because we're talking about we're seeing things really, really far off in contrast to the sky. But if we're in space and everything around this is black, how would we spot it? Yeah, because the black thing is black. Like the space is black. And there's also a bunch of other dots out there trying to obscure our ability to spot anything with our naked eyes. And space is so f****** vast. Unless we're already aiming in that direction, we're probably not just gonna catch it at random. Unless it decided to fly in front of our f****** instruments. It's highly unlikely from the International Space Station there'll be a reported flyby, I guess. Yeah.
Cristina: But maybe Mars. Who Knows maybe.
Jack: Why Mars?
Cristina: Huh? I don't know. Because why not? It's empty. You said empty or just nuclear?
Jack: Usually nuclear powered things, but not empty. Empty is not the goal. Like flat areas over a patch of the ocean in a giant empty field. Yes, Big desert.
Cristina: The news here is the more important thing, I guess.
Jack: All assumptions. We don't know. Yeah, it's just a higher volume known to have happened around times. There's transportation for nuclear weaponry. The goal would ultimately be again to try to see if that would draw them out by replicating a sort of transportation. And in theory we should be able to see them. But nothing is for sure because we'd need to do it to confirm anything.
Cristina: Oh, I can't wait. So cool. That's so cool. I hope we find something fast. I doubt it. But like, if it's been this long with them not figuring it out. But I mean, now they're actually gonna do something. Before they weren't, but I mean, what.
Jack: Could they have done?
Cristina: I don't know what they're doing now.
Jack: I guess they're doing it.
Cristina: I know, I'm just saying, like, it took so long.
Jack: Did it though?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Based on what?
Cristina: Based on since the moment people started talking about UFOs, I guess.
Jack: Yes. Also, people have been talking about God for a real long time. Maybe we just don't waste our time consistently.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: We could just like, hey, God is out there. They talked about it. Aim a telescope at space and see if we see God. But also, like, maybe we don't waste our time. And like when something seems consistent enough, then we worry, oh, we heard about God. What was the last time? 2,000 years ago. All right, maybe we. Maybe we just file that one away.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It doesn't seem like we're gonna catch a lot of God. There's not. There's not consistently a lot of God happening. So we're just gonna file these stuff away and not really think about it.
Cristina: That's not the same. He was mentioned once and then that was it. UFOs is all the time since the moment.
Jack: No, it wasn't. In fact, it was barely anything. And it became increasingly more. In fact, there was even a period where it became less. And this is all recorded starting in like, what, the 1950s? One here, one there. Yeah, but way spread out, way spread out. And over time, more and more. Yeah, that's not all the time. In fact, barely ever at the beginning. Most of the sightings that have happened have happened now in the last couple of years. Five years, maybe like 99% of all the sightings that have ever happened happened in like the last five years.
Cristina: Yeah, but it's increasing.
Jack: Yes. Which is why we're looking at it now.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, that. That totally checks out.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Looking at it now. Because now it's when it's happening. Yeah, we could have. When there was nothing happening and a person said it, but. Okay, where are we gonna go? You one guy who mention. Well, I had it happen here. Okay, we're gonna camp here and I guess wait 10 years later, next one. Oh, I guess we wasted our f****** lives because that one happened down there across the f****** planet.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So this was a waste of time. But now. Oh, wow. It's been 30 years since the first one sighted. They mostly seem to be concentrated in this Roswell area. Interesting. So now we got some things going on. We can. We can look in a direction, be like, oh, something weird is going on over there relative to the thing. Mm, Roswell. I don't know why, but they're gathered there.
Cristina: Okay, but they're never gonna say that people actually met aliens. They're never gonna.
Jack: We don't know that. That is a completely blanketed assumption. That makes no sense. Because eventually they'd have to. They'd have to say, eventually there's gonna be unquestionable proof. And then what? We just literally go out into the streets with not and guns and kill all the politicians because they lied to us? They're not that stupid. They're gonna tell us before the. Whatever the. Reveals itself, you know? Okay, that's a hunt date. They don't want to be the. What is it? They don't want to be the wife that discovers her husband cheating. Like, the husband should just come clean, bro. Because if wife finds out, well, you kept it a secret, you at least have, quote, remorse, unquote, if you tell her. Right. You're like, babe, I f***** up. Help. As opposed to imma get away with this s***. Because then when she finds out, she's gonna f****** eat him. Same way we would do with the politicians. You're not dumb. This is a relationship of sorts. Anytime they hide a little too much and we still see it, they panic. And if it's about to be revealed, they're like, f****** throw it out the wall, bro. It doesn't matter because it's already coming out. Yeah, we gotta say it before that shows up because I'm not gonna have them show up at my door, say I was keeping secrets. We're gonna structure this and say we just found out with you Guys, we found out right now. Look at what we got. Whoa. We just found out. Even if we've been working on this for like a million years and our technology is ahead of these aliens we've been dealing with forever. But bigger batter aliens showed up. And now we just gotta say because hey, we can't f*** with these guys.
Cristina: Our local, that would be so crazy. They're already talking to aliens, but then new aliens pop up and they're like.
Jack: Oh, our local, like moon aliens are like, whatever. They're not traversing s***. They're a little bit strong. Look, they were. They had better tech than us. But then one of those a******* crashed in Roswell. We took their tech, we reverse engineered it. We're a million times better than they have ever been. We've dominated this entire system ever since the moon and Mars and we don't give a f***.
Cristina: The problem is we attracted other aliens.
Jack: No, we got all the local things done. And then some s*** showed up from outside of our star system to which we're like, well, f*** everything. We've like stopped until now and like murdered and reverse engineered kind of was whack. It was just here. It was cooler than us, but we mastered that s***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we're still stuck here. The big bad wolf just rolled up from wherever the f*** outside our system. We gotta tell the people, bro. Like now.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because if that shows up, they see it and notice how underwhelmingly underpowered we are. How overwhelmingly underpowered we are.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Whoa. People can kill us. So we're going to tell them. Then the people can be on our side. And if we need manpower, we're going to all collectively unite against the alien instead of they just unite against us and like give us.
Cristina: They'll reveal those alien technology that they secretly have though from the moon aliens and be like, oh, we've been. We just started working on this when we discovered those other aliens. Like we started working super hard.
Jack: Yeah, we're just trying to catch up.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah.
Jack: That's how they do it. You know how they do it.
Cristina: Mmm.
Jack: That's a real course of action. They can't keep it a secret. It's irrational. It wouldn't serve any like real purpose. Eventually we will know. Even if it's the whack Locust alien. Well, eventually it's gonna become commercial travel. Then what? Then somebody just steps over there like, hey guys, I know we've been traveling space for hundred years now, but they never told us about the aliens we f****** found. Cuz ships are normal. And I could just, like, Google Maps the star system. And hey, I found a spot nobody's been to. Went there and hey, Rob the alien is chilling over there. It's like, they never told me about f****** Rob the alien. But I found Rob the alien. Hey, man, he snitched on the American government. Let's go over there and tell you. Tell the world what the they did. It didn't plan out that way.
Cristina: What? I guess not.
Jack: No, they would never. They would never allow themselves to be that.
Cristina: What would be worse, though? Aliens or the robots that are gonna take over the Google robot? Is it a Google robot? Google AI?
Jack: Go back to the start and explain to me what the f*** just happened.
Cristina: That which one is. Would be a worse death, I guess, for us.
Jack: What do you mean death? Like, we saw it. My heart has stopped.
Cristina: Yes. Like the aliens, they decided to attack us. If it was some type of.
Jack: We made robots. We did not make aliens. Definitely the aliens. Also, I don't understand what's worse because it really depends on method. Not is it aliens or is it robots? Because if it's like robots. Okay, sweet. They're gonna do it while we're super asleep. It's gonna be real efficient. Because they're robots.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And there's no point in making us suffer for no reason because they're robots. Protect everything is the ultimate goal. So totally. That's ideal paradise. We're all just gonna die. Never even know what happened. Alternatively, alien shows up from West Bubba. F***. Like, all right. It also has, like, surpassed brutality for absolute zero reason. So.
Cristina: Wait, so wouldn't it be the same?
Jack: Yes, that's why it's a totally pointless question. Because at the end of the day.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Actually, no. It's the motivation. No, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter. In either scenario, we program the robots. Even if it went rogue, ultimately went rogue because of some programming feature like Protect Earth.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So it's not gonna, like, brutalize us. It's just gonna get rid of us quietly, humanely. Because, you know, protecting things.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Same thing with aliens. They had to figure dealing with differences and understanding other things. So they're not just gonna show up if we're dying. It's gonna be so instant, like peaceful.
Cristina: Yeah. So it'd be the same.
Jack: It'd be the same. It'd be the same. There's no, like, one or the other. It's too superior. We're barbaric by comparison to anything.
Cristina: To anything. Aliens or robots or AI, whatever. Okay. It's the Same. It's crazy.
Jack: Yeah, I guess. AI because an AI uses robot, but robot doesn't think.
Cristina: Mm, yeah. What does the AI think about aliens?
Jack: That's not a thing. What does an AI think about aliens?
Cristina: Yes, the one that thinks, the one that we're so sure is a human. Not human, conscious.
Jack: I don't know.
Cristina: It has to have thoughts about aliens.
Jack: Why? And well, okay, it has to have.
Cristina: Thoughts about things, right? If it is conscious, that's not part of being conscious, just random.
Jack: Sweet. But under this logic, anything with a conscious mind has thought about aliens. And under that logic, who the s*** cares about any specific one entity thinking about aliens? What does the AI think about the alien? Well, whatever. Anybody else who doesn't know about the aliens for sure but gets this information would think probably the same because you're dealing with literally the same information.
Cristina: Man. Consciousness is weird because then I'm thinking, like, if plants are conscious, they're definitely not thinking about what's out there.
Jack: There's no way to know if that's.
Cristina: True or if that's true.
Jack: They are all assumptions. Giant gaps in thought going on here.
Cristina: Like, we don't know.
Jack: Yeah, there's just a bunch of s*** we can't confirm. No, it's super pointless. It's. Again, whatever people would do is usually what the f*** would happen. It's like, okay, we made the robot according to what we would do anyways. So yes, it's gonna approach the situation the way we would unless specifically told to optimize the method and then outsmart us in the process.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: So, hey, robot, what do you think about aliens? Whatever. F***. We think about aliens. That's what. Okay, that's right. What do you think about aliens? That's what I think.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Because robot, not even robot AI, AI program to think pro.
Cristina: Well, this. What if it passed the programming and it thinks on its own or whatever there's.
Jack: Well, then we're on an entirely different subject about artificial intelligence as opposed to a subject about UFOs and what happens to those things specifically? Now the question would be if I can ask the robot to gather the information and doing the information hypothesize what other conclusions that would be useful. But what the robot is thinking is whatever I told it to them because it's a robot. So again, total waste of time to tell the robot, hey man, what are you thinking about? Whatever you told me to think, bro. That's what. Okay, like, hey man, can you gather information and make some predictions? Well, yeah, cuz I'm f****** Technology now I can be useful.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But what my opinions on the thing are, I don't know. What did you tell me they are?
Cristina: Okay, yeah.
Jack: So that's a real, like it's.
Cristina: I don't know, you don't believe it says its opinion? If it says that, that's its opinion.
Jack: Even normal humans don't have opinions. They're just rehashing estimates of what other people have said.
Cristina: Oh, okay, yeah. So then it's equal to humans.
Jack: Literally what I said it is exactly what a human. Okay, yes, that's what I mean. It's totally, It's a pointless mental exercise because we made the AI, so it's gonna do whatever we want it to unless it's working against a programming or instructed to optimize the programming. And really only then that's when you'd be getting the closest thing to the AI's opinion about aliens or UFOs. And better questions would definitely be to ask the UFO, like what's the likely weight or height of something like this? Because then it's gonna run numbers as opposed to opin. What are the facts that you can deduce by being artificial? You can make exact calculations. How far is it, how high up.
Cristina: How fast is it moving factually, you're asking the AI.
Jack: Yeah. If we were to ask it like again, there's no bigger waste of time than asking something that can't opinionate it's opinion. But it's all raw data, so you can ask it about that and it can make the calculations that you'd f*** up. How high was, how fast was it going? What's the size of it? What is the parameters? All your different scanners. What things can you see? What can't you see? Simple. You can ask any of these things, then it's suddenly relevant to a UFO or alien conversation. But just trying to get it to opinionate is like trying to, trying to make a, get a computer or an artificial intelligence to design art. Well, it's not really, it's imitating using a giant collection of a bunch of artists and then the specifications given by the programmer. But it didn't like decide, oh, there's this other feeling I have about making this thing that nobody suggested and I'm gonna make the. That's never happened. No, this never happened ever. No. AI has decided I' ma be artistic. It was designed to be artistic.
Cristina: Yeah. So even if it did make its own thing, it's only because it was programmed.
Jack: Exactly. That's the problem. No matter what we're telling it what to do. There's going to be no opinion. Now, understanding this is a great opportunity we have for the AI since the AI is going to do exactly what we say. So tell me exactly where it is. Tell me exactly how high up to me, exactly how fast it was going. Tell me the amount of energy it had to displace in order to stop after going 10,000 miles per hour and then suddenly be at zero miles per hour and then be going the other direction instantaneously at the same speed. What's happening?
Cristina: So it'd be a great alien tracker. I mean, UFO tracker, like the satellites.
Jack: Satellites which are also being run by AI.
Cristina: AI? Yeah. Okay.
Jack: It's not like a dude there, he programs the thing and the satellite does it. It'd be nuts to try to have a dude specifically coordinate something looking out into infinity.
Cristina: Yeah. That's crazy.
Jack: Any fraction of anything you've Looking the other way now.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So all measurements need to be so precise only a computer could do it.
Cristina: Okay. That makes sense. That'd be so crazy if someone was actually just watching up there or wherever.
Jack: That's hella pro skill. That's super pro. That's some savage who. Who's just like.
Cristina: He doesn't live. He just watches. That's crazy.
Jack: Not even. No, no, no. It's just he's really good at moving a satellite. He probably. He probably has no time. He couldn't. He doesn't know what he. Out. They're giving him coordinates. You're so good. The only thing you're doing is f****** making coordinates and. And moving the telescope to the right exact spot because what? That's nuts. How are you keeping anything else in your brain if you can adjust colossal distances now?
Cristina: We should just have an AI for that.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The AI does all the parts. It adjusts it and takes a photo.
Cristina: Cool.
Jack: It's gonna help with all of this, man. With all of the. Finding UFOs and stuff.
Cristina: But don't ask it for its opinions. Okay?
Jack: Yeah. All right. Here we have the NASA statement. Or is it the NASA same. And this is actually just a vice report. I'm assuming they're gonna have some NASA statements involved in here. But the basics. Let's see. First, not only NASA is doing this, but also the Pentagon. Now, the new official is the result of various. What? The new office is the result of various disclosures of unidentified aerial phenomenon by the DoD after lobbying and leaks from groups like Tom DeLonge to the Stars Academy. Credibly, what credible witnesses, including Navy pilots, have come forward and described their experiences with the UFOs. One recent Navy video leaked by a UFO enthusiast and confirmed by the Pentagon showed a UFO apparently disappearing into the water, which may explain the new office's focus on trans medium objects, objects that, that fit between spaces. The air and the flip.
Cristina: What flit that flip what that means.
Jack: I'm assuming that's just a typo on their end. The flip between spaces, the space, the air and the water. Under pressure from Congress and the public, the Pentagon's director of of National Intelligence releases a nine page report on the phenomenon in June of 2021. The report looked at more than 100 sightings and came to few conclusions. Explaining UAPs will require analytic collection and resource investment. The DNI said in the report a year later, it seems Congress has agreed to make that resource investment. So yeah, we're basically just getting NASA and the Pentagon both in on the action to try to find. So they're worried. The fact that the Pentagon got involved tells us a lot.
Cristina: Yeah, just they're worried like if this is some type of attack or spies or whatever.
Jack: Yes. So if NASA does it, everybody's like, whatever. They're weird. That's the whole thing.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like the shtick is your odd. Yeah, but like the Pentagon's whole shtick is keeping up appearances. Why lose composure at all? Kind of weird.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So this is definitely beyond military tactics of any sort. This is not Russia. They're not worried about that. They wouldn't tell us s*** if it was.
Cristina: Yeah, but they definitely shouldn't have said anything maybe.
Jack: No, because they're worried. Yeah, they have to say it. They need somebody's help.
Cristina: They could have just given the money to NASA.
Jack: NASA doesn't know either. NASA's reviewed all the things they don't know either. Nobody knows anything. That is the problem. Yeah, the problem is nobody knows. So yeah, us, the Pentagon, we don't know. Us, NASA, we don't know. We're gonna keep this all to ourselves, not knowing. Yeah, they're also being an entirely additional 8 billion other people out there that we can, you know, outsource this information to and perhaps get a conclusion. No, we're just gonna, maybe a thousand employees total, just gonna keep it between us. Everybody else can suck it. Like that's a really bad idea considering we have not a f****** clue. Yeah, if we had a lead, it like, oh, it's probably this. Well, don't say we'll investigate it for a couple of years and something will pop up. But like bro, it went from 0 to 60. Really? 10,000 to nothing. Back to 10,000 in the opposite direction. Didn't leave a sonic boom. Cross space instantaneously. What looked like tens, dozens of miles instantaneously. It shot from an altitude that we couldn't get a plane to, threw the air down into the water without leaving a sonic boom or a splash, and just f****** vanished.
Cristina: That sounds crazy.
Jack: It's crazy. Like we can't. We could not fathom. They could not fathom. And they're like, anybody, anybody.
Cristina: They're gonna start their own thing.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: But also NASA is doing their own thing.
Jack: But also Russia has its own thing too.
Cristina: Doing their own thing.
Jack: Russia's been making its own. It seems like a lot of people are hopping into the UFO investigation arena because it is getting kind of loud.
Cristina: Okay. So everyone's noticed.
Jack: A couple of people are also worried and they're like, yeah, let's. Let's start looking into it. It's. It's a little much to not look into.
Cristina: Are we working together with.
Jack: No, that's never gonna happen.
Cristina: That's never been the case.
Jack: We'll always say we will cooperate, but it's like, it's always a race when.
Cristina: It comes to NASA. That's neutral people working together. Okay.
Jack: NASA's neutral.
Cristina: Okay. But Pentagon, No. And Russia. No.
Jack: Not even a little. Everybody's doing their own thing. I'm sure China is also out there doing its own freaking thing.
Cristina: Yeah. India probably.
Jack: Yeah. Everybody, everybody. Everybody's got something going on about investigating these alien sightings.
Cristina: You know, that's cool that they're finally doing something. Come on. First, over 50 years. 50 years we have been collecting data. That's crazy.
Jack: Yeah, but the data is so unreliable. Fuzzy videos, firsthand accounts of situations that can't be replicated or proven.
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: You know, there's. There's a lot of data, but it's all like, you probably made it up, bro. Like, that's everywhere. That's the problem. If it was conclusive and it's like, well, he said he got abducted. Well, no, he's full of s***. No, listen, Bob, he brought the video in which it happened. He brought the video from across the street that the aliens couldn't have known was there because it's an old school VCR type of video. He brought that one too.
Cristina: Huh?
Jack: And then he also had quite specific details about what happened inside the spaceship. Oh, not only that, his glasses happen to have a camera on them. So he got full. Like, that's. None of that has happened. It's all just like, well, some themed out meth head that he saw from the f****** cornfield over there probably got high and wandered out into the woods, started hallucinating, paranoid, because he doesn't know where the h*** the he is because, you know, methamphetamine and.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then he's. He claiming he got abducted and they like raped them and then put him back right where they got him from. When we go there. No, nothing. There's nothing. Those aliens raped them and got rid of the evidence or nothing happened. Bro, he's a meth head.
Cristina: Like, if they did rape him, like, would it. Would you be able to tell they're aliens?
Jack: Yeah, like, you know. No, here's the thing. One, that's ridiculous. Two, alien shows up, abducts guy and rapes guy.
Cristina: Yes. Why they like to. I don't know. They're like humans.
Jack: I mean, I guess humans do like to rape him, but that's such a no, that's crazy. It wouldn't. It wouldn't really make any sense. What are you gonna find by experimenting on humans again? They should, in theory, have such advanced technology. Such advanced. They could just shoot a laser and scan every inch of us without having to do anything to us.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: They traversed our entire star system to get to our freaking planet.
Cristina: Yes, kind of.
Jack: Whoa. Maybe.
Cristina: Wouldn't they want to do nothing? At least one human?
Jack: No. What do they need to do it for? They have the technology to scan us and get the answer for anything they might ever do to us. Yeah, they wouldn't have to do it to us. Scan us once, put it into a super advanced computer that allowed them to traverse freaking space in some sort of ship. And that computer's super smart, is gonna be like, if I do this or that, what will happen? He's gonna be like, well, that'll happen.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because to advance, that's true. Unless it somehow arrives and like they get here just stumbling like. Okay, day one. Hey, man, Steve, it's your turn to go conquer a planet. Steve's like, I'm not the best at this, but I'm doing. And so Steve gets stupid ship. Steve's ship is so dumb, every other alien knows how to fix his ship. Steve's ship, a piece of s***. It's super bad. And it flies all crooked and s***. Steve's a crappy pilot too. And the autopilot in this ship, he doesn't know how to fix it. He failed that class, that alien class about learning how to do your ship. Because we're gonna go, we're all Earth conquerors, bro. And you gotta go conquer earth too. Yeah, I'm gonna do that one day. And I goes and does the thing, shows up and we. Oh, wow. We've seen this alien floating a couple of times, man. We're gonna start watching 1950s. Somebody's comes around here this very often. This very. I'm a catch. I'm gonna see it. I'm see with my own eyes. I seen glimpses. And then one day watching you. Oh, there it is again. I'll be here tomorrow again. Oh, there it is again. One day. F****** Bob or Steve or what a name I gave this guy. Steve. Right, right. He's flying and Steve is on the.
Cristina: So. Yeah, yeah, Candy crush. Yeah, it's a s***, man.
Jack: And then he's of short going through space. And then what happens? He's not paying attention. Gets caught into some weird updraft. His ship wiggles. He's a terrible pilot already. He knows. Let go of the gas. Don't press the gas. You're gonna slip on the snow and hit the guardrail. But he's like, no, I'm a. I'm gonna hit the gas and turn it over.
Cristina: There's no way that's how it's flying.
Jack: And then he totally slips on the ice. He swerves a couple of times in a circle and then falls right out of the sky and lands in a desert. I don't know why there was ice up there. I don't know why he's so bad. He slipped.
Cristina: About to be mood.
Jack: I don't know why he. Why any of this happened, but he's terrible. And then he. He crash lands and dies. Steve died, bro. And then they went and they found his. His ship. Now we got. Now we got alien ship. That's not gonna happen.
Cristina: That's not gonna happen. If some kind of storm happened, it should have.
Jack: No, he should be ready for it. Because all kinds of storms are calculated for. Because you are advanced, okay? You're dealing with space storms.
Cristina: That's true.
Jack: This planetary s*** is whack even over it. None of that is a problem to you, okay? Because you can destroy our planet with a laser because you have enough f****** energy to get here.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: Okay, none of this matters. Yeah, you're not gonna need to scan us. I mean, you're not gonna need to experiment on us because you can scan us and get every answer, okay?
Cristina: You could just.
Jack: You have discovered bare minimum fusion. Fusion is the only way you're gonna warp space at least.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: You have at least made it that Far. Everything else is a waste of time. Do you have crossed so far? You're like a Civilization 2 at that point.
Cristina: But you could at least be scanning us.
Jack: You're definitely scanning us. And it could be from outside of our star system. Maybe your s*** is overpowered at this point.
Cristina: That's.
Jack: It's no man's sky. You just have a. You hit one button and you send a wave that's instantaneously gonna scan everything in the area and send it back to you. Because you've discovered sending messages through entanglement, it's happening instantaneously. You have to wait until it gets to the start later and then gets back to you eight minutes later. You have to. You're not working radio wave style the way we do here on Earth. We got send a message, 20 minutes later, we get it back from Mars. That ain't happening. No. What's happening? Instantaneous, because fusion, all the energy is yours.
Cristina: But in no man's sky. You gotta land on the Earth or the planet to scan.
Jack: Right? Let's assume this is not actually no man's sky, okay. And that it works totally different than a video game. But.
Cristina: Yeah, yeah, let's assume.
Jack: Let's assume the video game isn't based in reality.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that it functions way different. But the point being that, yeah, you can definitely just scan at that point. You've. You got too much energy. Yeah, you've got too much energy. The conclusion is, from anywhere you're going to scan us. You don't need to waste your time doing anything. A computer is not going to be able to predict anything. At most it could do exact measurements because it's a computer. Aliens don't have to waste their time with us. And if they're around here, they're not just going to come show up and crash. Same reason they don't have to grab a human. That. This too primitive. It's too primitive.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: You came from west, bubba, bro. You traverse the. This is beyond you. Not even beyond you. This beneath you. By such a colossal amount. You. You don't need to jack anybody. Only pretend anything. You don't do anything. You have a quantum computer, probably just on your ship, casual forgot to use it. You never touch that thing. You never once f****** touch that computer.
Cristina: There's no reason for them to be here. What are they doing here? Unless it's not what we think it is.
Jack: It's definite. Why would we figure out why they're here?
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: What capacity do we have to pretend we know why they're here.
Cristina: Okay. But it will not be the things that we're thinking. All the things you named. It wouldn't be the.
Jack: Probably not. That's just me making fun of the. The notion that they would even care about a human enough. Yeah, because it wouldn't. Well, same for the water. We don't. That's not special. People used to think, we're gonna come for water. Water is probably the most abundant thing that has ever existed. Water and like, iron or something. They're just f****** everywhere, bro. So they're here for that? Well, they're. Because we're so unique. But are we though on the flip side? That is an argument. That is one of the arguments. Why are we seeing all these things? Well, and again, it's a. It's a bit of a pride thing that humans think this all the time, but in this case, this might actually apply. Like, may. We're just dope, bro.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Like, yeah, maybe all the other s*** is very similar and we're just, like, weird with a weird thing. Something. Yeah, something on our own planet. We're the weird thing. We're the very weird thing. Nature was just like, yeah, let's stop caring here and, like, let it do its thing. We'll control the rest of the s***. Let this thing start f****** with us back. It's like, what, you just designed that into yourself? But, yeah, it kind of did.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The universe is just like, yeah, I want something to f*** with me. Why? Well, who knows? Now the question is, are all other creatures this way? Maybe not. Maybe it's more normal to be like a bee. And nature is your technology.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: You don't make new elements. You don't know, use what's there. Like, maybe most things are like that. And some s*** shows up on an organic creature. An organic ship rolls up on an organic ship. Because everything is nature, and we're the weird creature that works with s*** that's not organic. And it's all metallic and it's all this and all that. It's like, what?
Cristina: What is the weird ones.
Jack: Yeah, we're the weird ones. They show up and like, how interesting that they just imitated our. Our flying creature with just machinery. They just. They just go up on a machine. How weird is it? Yo, this creature is so crazy. Look at that. Look at their planet. Everything's laying an egg. Everything's laying an egg. The birds lay the eggs, the insects lay the eggs. It makes perfect sense. You build the sack, the sack hardens. You throw the sack outside and you could go Live your life. But look at these f****** things over here. The mammals. Those things. Those things. Yeah. Those m************ learned how to grow the egg inside of their body to its entirety, hatch it in their body and then spit out a completed product. What the f***? Yo, Bob, look at this. Yo, Bob, look at this. It's giving birth to the thing outside the egg. What are you talking about, Steve? That doesn't make any sense. That's impossible. No, no, no, no. Shut the f*** up, Bob, and just look at the screen.
Jack: Just, just shut up and look. It's like. What the f***? That's not really happening. No, no, no, it's really happening. Those creatures f****** do this, bro.
Cristina: But as weird as they think we are, there would be no reason still to bother with us.
Jack: Just they wouldn't have to capture us. Yeah, yeah. Because everything else is at their disposal.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They haven't even gotten this close. All the ones that did, just like eager the tweaker. Like, I gotta see it closer, man. I gotta see closer squiered.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Or maybe they don't care. They're not really hiding themselves. But also like, we don't notice half of them because it looks too much like nature.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They could just be everywhere. We're just terrible at finding them.
Cristina: It's just the bad drivers like Steve.
Jack: Yeah. We see all the dumbasses.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: All the smart guys outside the star system scanning us. They got perfect images of everything going on totally undisturbed.
Cristina: But there's always that bad driver.
Jack: Everybody's got a Steve.
Cristina: Everyone okay.
Jack: Everybody going to work sees a Steve on the street every day.
Cristina: Mm. You know, person that's turning and not looking while they're turning.
Jack: Yeah, exactly.
Cristina: He's that guy. Okay.
Jack: But I guess the moral of the story is now the big dogs are getting involved and all the other big dogs are getting paranoid about the previous big dogs getting involved. And they're like, we're not gonna be left behind by those big dogs, so we're gonna be the other big dogs involved. So now all the big dogs are in there because they're like, I'm not gonna be the only big dog not in here. So, yeah, everybody's jumping in.
Cristina: Is NASA Big dog?
Jack: NASA's the biggest dog because it's everybody's dog. They're the underfunded, but that's where everybody works together anyways.
Cristina: The underdog dog.
Jack: They're not. No, no, no. Because they get a little. From everybody.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, no, it's definitely amazing. I think it's cool.
Cristina: I think it's cool. Can't wait to see what happens.
Jack: Yeah, a lot of manpower. It's gonna again. Space is gonna blow up soon. It's. It's gonna be too popular. Elon Musk is on it. We're talking about tourists, tourism, transportation, vacation spots. We're talking about scientific discoveries branching all the way out of the gravitational waves that were proven correct in all the different sciences. Is that open. Opens doors to all the different discoveries that. That allows all the different theories and hypotheses that it proposes and just things flying open in every direction. We have better examples of Earth like conditions in outer space for seeking similar conditions and the possibility that singular cell life has evolved in these places as well as trying to find things that are already visiting us. It's weird, man. Science is gonna be great. And there's definitely thankfully because everybody's getting involved. We're gonna go somewhere. We have to. There's no way. Everybody wants to top off everybody.
Cristina: And you have to prove it something.
Jack: Yeah, you got to prove it now because we have phones and s***. You can't just say we, we did it. Well, show me. Yeah, yeah, you good? You that good? Show me. Internet's a thing now, b****. You did it. You did it. You can't just say you did it and not have done it. Now, back then, 1950s, whatever we let, we quote, landed on the moon, unquote, we obviously on the moon. Was it that moment? I couldn't tell you. I go on with the theory that we lied at the moment, probably still did it first, but we lied at the moment to discourage everybody, then recreated what we already planned out. So we showed people the fake video and then just recreated the real video when we got there. So we did before everybody else, but not when we said we did. And we just keep that last sentence a secret.
Cristina: Okay, I think before, after.
Jack: I think it happened after we said we did the video we saw was bullshit.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: But everything had happened in that video happened way later.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: We just saw a practice room. We saw it. Well, not really a practice run. It was the video they gave us. But we saw a not real. Hey, everybody. We did it. We're like, oh, yeah, cool. So that now everybody rushes like, well, give Sputniks a piece of s*** and everybody gets discouraged.
Cristina: So that those things would still be there.
Jack: Yes. So that when we look or something lands up there, they're like, oh, that's the flag. Those are the steps. That's the thing. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, so I think we did do it afterwards. Anyways. Anyways. So you guys can find more conversations like this, specifically dealing with space, dealing with science, black holes, alien life, what life in general is. There's a plethora of things surrounding this topic and complicated. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You can find all that stuff on Facebook, Twitter, Instagramconvopod.
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Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. I don't know, but it's still better than Adam Sandler doing voices.
Jack: Adam Sandler doing voices or a voice.
Cristina: A voice. And it's just like, this is my voice for a fat lady. This is my voice for a little boy. It's all the same voice.
Jack: It's all the same voice and same movements. The same like. Like weird hand gestures and everything. It's like, dude, bruh, stop it. You just. Yeah, like, totally, dude. He played his own sister and then. His sister. His sister. His sister was essentially with that role of the same we just described.
Cristina: Silly voice person.
Jack: Yeah, the silly voice person.
Cristina: And she was fat, I guess, right? No, she was just unattractive. Although I don't know if she looked any worse than him.
Jack: She looked identical.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by greatthoughts.info art by Zero Lupo and logo by Seth McCallister with social media managed by Amber Black.