Rambling 196: Kola Superdeep Borehole
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What is the Kola Superdeep Borehole? What are the circumstances surrounding this interesting experiment? What rests at the bottom? The duo unpack one of history’s strangest phenomena, the Kola Superdeep Borehole and the incredibly strange circumstances and rumors surrounding the research. What is discovered will raise questions our duo will be permanently scarred by.
+Episode Details
Topics Discussed:
- Russian Drilling Experiment
- Earth’s Crust
- Geophone or Seismic Detector
- Largest Man-made Hole
- Strange, Unexplainable Feedback
- Fear Amongst Engineers and Researchers
- Horrified Evacuation
- Missing Reports and Data
- Radio Silence
- Mysterious Phenomena
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Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I'm your host, Christina.
Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. Befling ideas, your best baffling.
Cristina: Which ideas? Tell me some baffling ideas.
Jack: Aliens could be non physical trans dimensional beings from somewhere that don't use our physics. I guess non physical would be not using our physics right. By default.
Cristina: Yes. Non physical.
Jack: Here's, here's, here's my problem. Let's, let's quickly just use like the reference point of something like biblical. Right? If it looks humanoid, it's from the physical world by default because it shouldn't resemble anything. It shouldn't resemble things because if it's not from our physical reality, then none of our senses should in theory catch it. Right. Anything that exists within our physical reality we can sense because our physics says we can.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Anything biblical could in. Could not have really been seen or experienced. It couldn't have been witnessed by any sense because it should in theory exist outside of our physical reality. Therefore, outside of our senses that are all physical.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Nothing in any religion could have really been seen by anybody who said they saw it or heard by. It's impossible. Just like as a weird name, like, we'll probably not talk about this again because it'll just poke all the holes in all the conversations we're having, especially when we're trying to make it really grounded and possible, but really, really, like, just as an odd opener to like send this home once and for all and then never address it again as we totally pretend I didn't say this. Really, really nothing transcendent, nothing from a different plane could be detected by any of our senses because our senses are physical. Therefore we could only capture things from our physical reality. So nothing biblical, nothing religious. No, no, no thought creatures, nothing. Nothing from outside of what science, Nothing outside of what science says exists could be detected by us because it literally exists outside of physics, outside of physical reality. So it's all a lie. Like without, like an, like objectively, factually.
Cristina: Unquestionably, like even people who see in their dreams, Unquestionably, that's also reality.
Jack: Questionably, yeah. All of the above has got to under every circumstance, without exception, be a lie because it does not exist within our physical reality. So you could not have detected it. What you did detect must have factually existed from within our physical reality. Therefore it is just some part of nature.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: Without exception.
Cristina: Alright, so if these things were real things, that they'd just be aliens?
Jack: Yes. Really? Really? If somebody's like, I saw a thing and it was. No, you saw an alien. You broke your own argument. There's nothing else. It was, it was an alien, okay? It was flying. It looked like a plane. It was probably a plane. It was not like a flying car. It was a plane. It was a space plane. Let's call it a spaceship. You know, like it is what it is. Really? Really? Now, totally ignoring the fact that I said that and diving into the opposite, because let's never address that again because it breaks every idea we have on this show to just clearly establish the fact that no, it couldn't happen, it couldn't be detected. But I was curious about random crap as I usually am. Have you ever heard of the, the, the cola? Super deep borehole?
Cristina: Can you say that again? The cola.
Jack: The cola. Super deep borehole Borehole. The cola. The cola. The co. It's Russian.
Cristina: I don't know Cola. Like Coca Cola.
Jack: That's how I am saying it. But it's probably wrong.
Cristina: Super deep bush hole. What?
Jack: Whoa.
Cristina: I don't know. Borehole.
Jack: Borehole, yes, borehole.
Cristina: No idea.
Jack: So it's a hole. It's a hole we made in the ground. And it's not just a hole, but it's like a weird science experiment that we ran a long time ago.
Cristina: What was the experiment?
Jack: To dig a really deep hole.
Cristina: That was it. To see what's on the other side.
Jack: I mean, we know what's on the other side is just, you know, gather data. Essentially it's data gathering central. Where a bunch of scientists got together and we're like, whoa, a hole. Let's make one.
Cristina: So what's interesting about this hole?
Jack: Nothing. It's just really deep. It's the deepest hole in all of time.
Cristina: The deepest hole. How deep is this deep hole?
Jack: Pretty deep. As deep as holes go. As deep as man made holes go, specifically. Okay, there's probably deeper holes, but this is our deep hole, our deep hole. It's not the deepest hole, but it's my deep hole is the idea behind it. Right?
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's not the best, but it's mine. It's my stupid deep hole. And so humans wanted to dig a deep hole. They were like, we can't out beat nature, but we can have our own stupid hole.
Cristina: And that's it. No, like there's nothing special about this hole besides that we made it.
Jack: No you like my story?
Cristina: It was a weird story. Nothing to it. Just it's a deep hole.
Jack: Oh, well. Well, I'll give you some background information on the hole. The hole exists on the border of Norway and Russia and the hole was made essentially by the Soviet Union to dig in deep and explore depths.
Jack: And yeah.
Cristina: Are there demons in the hole?
Jack: That'd be cool. Why? Why would there be demons in the hole?
Cristina: I don't know. How does this relate to the first part of this whole thing?
Jack: Doesn't. I don't. Totally unconnected.
Cristina: It's just a depot.
Jack: Yeah. Edge. You said you told me to tell you baffling ideas. I was telling you something baffling.
Cristina: That's baffling.
Jack: No, this has nothing to do with the baffling information I told you about. The fact that nothing could have been detected and put in the Bible or in any religious book or any religious context at all could contain any of what they say that's unrelated to this whole. You asked me to tell you a baffling idea, so I told you something baffling. The fact that we can prove a statement that I made. That's the baffling that was baffling.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Because like when you think about it, it's like, oh, oh yeah. I don't know why religion exists at all. That's baffling.
Cristina: So then this whole. Is this also baffling? How is it baffling?
Jack: This has nothing to do with baffling. I was just telling you about a hole.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The first story, unrelated to the second story. You asked a question and I answered your question and then I moved on to the hole. To the hole.
Cristina: To the hole.
Jack: Russia. Because what, what is. This is the show. We're talking. Okay, conversation. We're having conversation. But now all jokes aside. So yeah, this hole was made by the Soviet Union, exists in between the Russia and Norway. Cool, right?
Cristina: I guess there has to be more to it, right?
Jack: Why does there have to be more to it?
Cristina: Why are you telling me this?
Jack: I don't know, I just thought it was very interesting. No, but the whole. It was all jokes aside, the whole was made to be deepest hole. They were just trying to capture information and it was an old hole. It's the oldest, deepest man made. No, it's not the oldest. There's been other holes and it's actually many holes. It's like four holes that are called collectively the Kola Super Deep Borehole.
Cristina: It's four holes.
Jack: It's four holes. The region is the cola super deep. Borehole. And the one we're mainly referring to is the deepest of all the holes.
Cristina: Okay, so they were competing with each other to make.
Jack: No, it's all the same project. There's just different spots in the same general area. But the deepest.
Cristina: Trying to get to the deepest.
Jack: The deepest of all the holes reached just over 12 meters. 12,000 meters, which is, you know, just over 40,000ft. Or, you know, like. Like seven and a half miles or something like that.
Cristina: Mm. How long is that compared to, like.
Jack: It's deep. It's way deep. It's too deep.
Cristina: How many buses down?
Jack: How many buses down? I. Way. I mean, a single mile is a crap ton of buses. Also, how long is a bus? This weird measurement system.
Cristina: So I can use my imagination.
Jack: If you were to jog. Fourteen minutes. Do that. Seven and a half times that distance. That visual. However long that visual is, that's how long. Yes.
Cristina: That's not helpful.
Jack: So magic borehole, right? It's deep.
Cristina: It's called magic.
Jack: No, it's. I'm calling it the magic because it's. It's so deep that it's magical. Okay, Hashtag science.
Cristina: And that's it.
Jack: Science experiments for days. And we did it. We did it.
Cristina: Any other weird science experiments we've done like this?
Jack: No, this. This one was. You know, because in 1989, it was officially crowned the deepest. That's when. That's when it happened. And they were like, hey, you. The deepest point we've ever hit.
Cristina: And then they all gave up?
Jack: No, they applauded and everybody nodded. And then we. We patted each other on the back and screamed science, b****. And.
Cristina: But no one else tried to make a deeper hole.
Jack: Not in the same way. There's been wider holes that have happened since. But not deeper.
Cristina: Why not? Because no one's trying to break this record.
Jack: Nobody can break the record.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Because it got weird.
Cristina: Okay, then.
Jack: Because it got weird.
Cristina: How did it get weird?
Jack: Well, let us go back in time. Oh, I gotta say. Wait, Let us go back in time to 1970. Okay, now we're back in time now.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: That sound, that. That's going back in time. Everybody knows we've all seen it in the movies or if you're listening to an audiobook and they're like, you know.
Cristina: I don't feel like in movies I've ever heard anything.
Jack: Yeah, there's like a weird whoosh thing that happens. Some visual wavering effects or something. Or something spins that you can see.
Cristina: I think Something spins, sure. Yeah.
Jack: Stuff like that, you know, Junk like that past time related.
Cristina: Are we on the machine?
Jack: So look, we're in the past and there's a guy and he's like, yo, holes in deepness. And people were like, yeah, that sounds cool. Let's go to the place and do the thing. And they're like, well, we gotta go somewhere else. Because holes be deep and deeply, heat and heat be bad and equipment and stuff. And like. Yeah, so we gotta go cold because cold means less heat.
Cristina: Therefore deeper equipments won't damage from the heat.
Jack: Yes, you gotta go where it's absurdly cold.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So you go up there to the, to the up there's.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then you dig in the up there's where it's cold and up.
Cristina: That makes sense there.
Jack: And so yeah, they do that. Bunch of scientists get together and like, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna do cool hole digging stuff. And they got there and you know, they, they got a couple of different rigs.
Cristina: Like this is a creepypasta story.
Jack: No, this is a true story. This is an actual story that happened. Okay, so they go and they get a giant team. There's a bunch of workers out there and they get special rigs to dig different kinds testing different sizes, different widths, different lengths, different drills, power sources and blah blah, blah. And we slowly start to get deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. And the hormone moans and everybody applauds the hormones. Can you imagine? But anyway, so there's a couple of different report, not reports essentially, but they're running experiments. You know, they want to see seismic activity. They want to see how the ground is moving below. They want to, they want to learn.
Cristina: More about the earth.
Jack: About the earth. They want to see what causes earthquakes, how they preemptively predict earthquakes. They want to see how the tectonic plates are moving. They want to see in these cold conditions up there by Russia, Norway, how it is under the ground and whatnots and blah blah, blah. So this might. This drill, all the drills, but specifically the one that gets called the super deep borehole, the deepest of all the portholes, that one, I mean all of them. But that one had equipped with two microphones. One was a geophone, I guess. Not two microphones. One's a geophone deal with a microphone.
Cristina: What's a geophone?
Jack: Geophone records vibration and turns it into readable voltage on a machine. So it's essentially some sort of like not echolocation, but I mean it's, you know, like if you were to hit the ground, what do you Call that that you can. It gives you tactile information. I forget the name of it.
Cristina: Vibrations.
Jack: Yeah, that. It gives you vibrations. You're detecting vibration. Unlike echolocation, when you throw sound out to hear sound come back. There's a tool that does something similar for vibration.
Cristina: Okay, I forget what it's called.
Jack: Sonar. It's like sonar. So sonar returns vibration to you, I guess. Or sonar is echolocation. Right. It's the same s*** you're throwing. Well, whatever. No, it's wrong. Something detects underground stuff is my point. So that's equipped here, that's a geo. The other thing, a microphone.
Cristina: Microphone, yeah.
Jack: So these things are on the thingy, the Dojima kebab. And it's like digging and drilling and stuff.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And so everything. So let me explain. The GEO phone is a measurement device that's specifically going to capture the vibration, can turn that into a thingy that you could read on screen and it could turn it into different, you know, different sources. So what would this sound like, what would this look like? And it could convert that information.
Cristina: Cool.
Jack: So you can be like, oh, this is what it would sound like if we had a microphone down there. Except actually have a microphone down there. But anyways, so they dig a hole, the hole moans, everybody plots like I said. And then they got all these tools and so for the most part, standard boring, crappy experiment where it's like, hey, we got this deep. Hahaha. We still haven't even found the G spot with a hole this big. And they get reports, everybody claps and everybody high fives and like, yeah, hole digging or whatever. And hole digging, bro, they're so excited for it.
Cristina: Yeah, they're gonna win the Guinness World record of holes.
Jack: They didn't. They were gonna do or they did know they were gonna do. Maybe it was a plan all along.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Now the geophone was powered through the whole process, you know, it's a digging thing. But the microphone was powered beyond 5000 meters very specifically because it's not. You want to preserve this as long as possible to put it as deep as possible without anything happening. Now perfectly fine. All the sounds and all the vibrations and all. Everything was as expected. It was incredibly boring. Days, months, years, I don't know, however long, too long.
Cristina: You know how long this project was?
Jack: It was years. Well, most projects are years. In fact, like a five year project is probably a short one.
Cristina: Oh yeah.
Jack: So again, everything predictable, everything as expected.
Cristina: Until they heard something.
Jack: Till it stopped being predictable and it stopped being as expected.
Jack: Right.
Cristina: They heard something.
Jack: Yeah. So.
Cristina: Well, no.
Jack: Well, that would.
Cristina: Is it weirder than that?
Jack: So saying they heard something would assume that the microphone picked something up. Didn't. It's not quite what happened. The geophone started sending erratic, irrational signals back. Like, the recordings weren't making sense. It was complete gibberish. Like, nothing you'd hear. Like, if you tried to clarify the information, if you tried to get a, you know, turn into sounds or into visual, tell a computer. Hey, what are you trying to tell me, bruh?
Cristina: Like, what's. What's around you? Is that what he's trying to say?
Jack: Yeah. It's essentially trying to feedback, like, hey, this is what's happening down here. But it's like nothing and everything simultaneously. It's just noise. Like, noise from everywhere, completely muffling it and making it impossible to, like, distinguish one thing from the other. It's all blended and it's static. It's essentially geostatic. Okay, that's already weird. That's very weird. It should not. We're in the middle of nowhere. It's particularly cold. There isn't anything happening. Originally, they thought maybe something was moving underground, like the. The plates or some s*** in that very area. There's something about digging the hole perhaps created the thing. But then they wait.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: And a weight. And it's still happening. Even after the machines are powered down, the sound just keeps resonating. It's there.
Cristina: So something's moving around on there. Is that what that's.
Jack: No, no, no. It's. Sound is coming from everywhere, simultaneously moving around. We'd be able to tell because the vibration would come from a specific location and move either getting stronger or weaker in some direction, according to the geophone.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: We'd be able to pinpoint. Oh, it's under us. It's slightly below to the left, you know, but that's not happening. No, the sound is coming from every direction in the hole. Interesting. Now we're like, whatever. It's clearly messed up. So they stop. They go to another hole. They dig deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.
Cristina: But not as deep.
Jack: They dig deeper.
Cristina: Oh, they dig deeper. Okay. Because that's. Oh. So they. Each hole is just deeper because of this experiment. Okay.
Jack: So we got better tech. We got. Okay, same problem is happening. So you go to the third hole. New equipment again. Trying different methods, same idea, same region. This one hits a particularly complicated. The third one, it's a particular complicated rough patch underground. It seems like almost plastic is down there, and it's starting to jam the drill. Weird. Starting to jam the drill. Okay. We need a tighter, more solid, rougher, harder to break tool to go down there. We need our best drill. We need our best geophone. We need our best microphones. And so we do. Now we're entering the. The Big Kahuna, the Cola, The. The hole to out deep all the holes. And we're like, okay, now. Now it's a big f****** show. We've done this three times, and it's gotten. We've gotten less answers the more we've done it. This is getting complicated.
Cristina: Did they have any theories about the plastic?
Jack: Well, there wasn't plastic. The theories range, like, maybe there is a layer of stone or rock that's more like clay towards where the drill got stuck last. And that at that area, it's the perfect amount of pressure to kind of liquefy and be solid at the same time. So it could wrap itself around the drill and then jam it.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: We just need something that wouldn't be affected by that. All right, so we use the best drill we got. And that again, that's theory. So we go ahead and we make it to that same depth about 7 meters in, and we're experiencing the same thing. But again, this feels ready for it. So it keeps moving through. Like. Okay, the. The texture changed.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: We start hitting what feels like a barrier.
Cristina: Did they pass it?
Jack: Yes. So do we hit the barrier after we get through? Like, the clay, the sticky, plasticky feeling part. And it's rough for a moment. Like, it's not even going to go through. But there's. We can tell. Yeah, it's making progress. So we're like, okay, we've hit some particularly rough patch of rock. This is harder than all the hard. And we're piercing through and then get through. We break through, whatever that is. Just tear through, and suddenly no resistance. No resistance at all.
Cristina: Okay, yes, good. Or that's even more suspicious. Is it weirder because of that?
Jack: Both. So it's good. We were anticipating that we get through it. We're gonna get to a lighter patch of rock we didn't expect to dig through. And then nothing. No resistance. That was weird because that shouldn't be the case. In fact, reports from the other holes suggest that down in those depths, if you were to pull the drill out, the. The pressure alone would immediately cover the hole. So the dirt and the rock and everything with it's so. It's so crushed under the weight of the earth itself that you pull the drill out. It just plugs up.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: There shouldn't Be a cavity. There shouldn't be a void based on the data from the other three holes. But we pierced through and seem to have found a void, just a gap underneath. Weird.
Cristina: That is weird.
Jack: Very strange. Right? All right, so the void is probably one of the strangest things to have ever been found in all of geology. And they move to examine all the data coming from the geophone because, again, no resistance. It seems to be a void. And now, in theory, there should be nothing coming back because the machine isn't. It's like the machine is spinning in nowhere. We can feel nothing. It's just the machine's vibration feeding back. There's no resistance feeding back. Okay, so we stop all the machines and we review the geophone's information. It says that the feedback has not stopped. There is still sound coming from every direction at exactly the same frequency, just louder.
Cristina: In the void.
Jack: In the void.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Before it was expected plates, it was expected moving rock, it was expected air pockets bursting. Anything? No, because now we can tell the drill isn't coming in contact with anything. But there is enough vibration. There's enough something down there flinging the vibration at like even the air is being compressed somehow. Something is causing the vibration to feed back into the machine. So geolocator. Geolocator. The geophone is capturing something. Okay, this is weird. We don't know what's happening. Luckily, we have a microphone connected. So let's go and review that.
Cristina: And then it gets weirder. Come on. Right.
Jack: It's odd, but not crazy. So they review the microphone data and they realize that it is a crazy amount of disturbance. Just consistent feedback. Feedback. Feedback. Sounds like nothing. Too much sound. And they realize 99.99% of the sound being fed back is the machine. So, like, all right, at some point we stopped the machine and we were still receiving feedback on the geophone. So let's find the recordings. The audio recordings of the microphone caught starting at that point.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Forward. Well, when they reviewed that, what they got from it was again, it has to explain it in the order, I suppose. So they hear the original and data all the sound coming with the drill. And it sounded like an absurd amount of static and absurd amount of vibration and said about a movement motion, they go and they review the part that comes after. After the machines are off, after they're getting the geophone, still receiving immense amount of vibration, and they hear what at first sounds like a consistent rumble. A imagine if you were to hear a cat purr and then record that and then turn it to the lowest possible frequency. So it starts at, you know, no more capering. Okay. You start turning in and turning it lower until it's just.
Cristina: And that's what it sounds like.
Jack: Yeah. Consistent, consistent, consistent. So they're like, this is clearly being. The sound is being altered by the environment. It's too wide down there. There's something. The shape of it is creating a feedback loop.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the sound is feeding back into itself.
Cristina: So how do they solve that problem?
Jack: They're gonna hire the frequency, they're gonna take the sound, and then they're gonna alter the sound manually, cleaning it, essentially turning up the frequency so they can clarify what it is that they're capturing, what kind of rock it will be told to them. I suppose they can hear of two things rubbing against each other based on the sound. If equipment, they can. You know, they got reference points. They've been doing this for a very long time. These geologists get it. They understand how the ground works. Of they can clarify, they can hear what it is. Then they can compare and be like, this is what's happening down there. Now we can remove those variables and hear other things. Very logical proceedings. Except when they refine the sound, it didn't sound like a bunch of rocks rubbing up against each other. It gradually sounded more disturbing to all the scientists. First sounding like more than one thing. I guess you could say more than one thing. All at once from different angles, different positions. Again, they keep raising the frequency, and it starts to sound. Too many. A lot.
Cristina: A lot of things.
Jack: A lot of something.
Cristina: A lot of something.
Jack: A lot of something. Eventually, one of the scientists suggests that he needs to exit the project and does no longer want to be part of it. And it was actually the scientist who was working on the clarifying of the microphone sounds.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: He just quits because he heard something horrifying, presumably, yes. He's just like, nah, good enough.
Cristina: It's not a bunch of bats flapping around or anything.
Jack: No. So a following scientist then gets on the. Gets on the job. I am the professional. I must do the duty that this other immature scientist could not have done. It must have been too difficult for them to handle or whatever they were telling themselves.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Until they, too, were like, nah, nah, I'm good. I'm very good.
Cristina: None of them were like, maybe this isn't right. I should do some more things to the sound.
Jack: I'm assuming they did those processes and were like, I'm done trying to figure this one out.
Cristina: Okay, okay, okay.
Jack: So after those two initial scientists quit on the Job. The audio gets moved up a couple of ranks and lands at some elite scientists, which then, as scientists go, they must be mature. They must report the findings as they are and not quit their job. They're used to weird things. So the initial report with all the findings had a line in it explaining what the audio most resembled, which a lot of the scientists agreed with and seemed to be shook by the ones who worked on the project. Of course, the. The initial line read, many screaming voices. Keep in mind, it's in Russian, this is a translation. But many screaming voices is what the scientists that this landed on. What was his name exactly? The scientist was called Boris Volkov. So it lands on the desk of Boris Volkov. And he, you know, he has. He's a professional. He's gonna go. Regardless of how ridiculous this might sound, he understands that this might just be some problem. But, you know, you gotta. Something's causing it. It's not supernatural. It couldn't be. Okay, then he just publishes that in the report for everybody else to kind of review.
Cristina: But did he actually hear it too?
Jack: Yes. He had access to all the files, all the data. This is all data for everybody on the base, all the scientists.
Cristina: He think it's screaming voices or he's the one who.
Jack: No, no, no. He's the one who wrote the line.
Cristina: That it sounds like.
Jack: It sounds like screaming voices. This is him trying to interpret what's going on.
Cristina: Oh, okay. But that doesn't mean he believes it is.
Jack: No, no, no. He believes something is happening that's causing sounds like. Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So he believes that's the case, that something is happening along those lines. It's just some sort of disturbance that's coming across in this fashion. But it's not really that they're screaming voices and there couldn't be. That doesn't make any sense. How would that even happen? Yeah, so these disturbances were recorded again even after the machinery is turned off, which then goes to say that Boris believes the equipment is recording. Rock is recording. Air pockets is recording. Moving magma is recording something that's then creating the sound as it gets filtered through the air and maybe just gets really disturbed on the way. So these screams, these alleged screams get reviewed by several audio engineers by several different tools. They attach different kinds of microphones, take them down to the bottom. They tried cameras. There was no camera that could withstand the heat, which then led to the next problem. They tried to visualize what was down there by sending the best, most resistant cameras, including cameras that were meant to handle the heats of the Area underground, which is expected to be about 212 degrees. The first camera they put down came back melted, but it was meant to withstand the heat. It was easily melted. They got nothing from it.
Cristina: It's weird, because how didn't the other things melt?
Jack: Well, the other things were made resistant, but they were much more resistant than the camera.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So they're like, okay, we need a better camera, and that one gets melted too. So then they send special equipment to measure the exact heat that's down there. Why? Why is every visual aid we're sending down to completely getting destroyed? Again, the temperature expected down there supposed to be about 212 degrees Fahrenheit on average. The.
Cristina: That's pretty ridiculous, though. But. Yeah. Yeah.
Jack: The temperature that was being received by the thermometers, on the other hand, was over 350 degrees Fahrenheit.
Cristina: How?
Jack: That's over 150 degrees hotter than expected.
Cristina: What?
Jack: Now? The equipment they originally sent down there was the best of the best because they were struggling to even get through things. So they sent the most resistant things ever to make it that far down. Originally, they. They didn't encounter the heat problem until they tried to visualize what was down there. And then every visual aid they sent out to the point that it's like, we can't send anything to look down there because the heat's gonna destroy whatever it is. It's gonna create disturbance and literally melt whatever it is.
Cristina: Yeah. So there's no solution to it.
Jack: There's no solution to the problem. So it created a weird, baffling situation in which the scientists didn't really know where to proceed. There's nowhere deeper you could go because there doesn't seem to be anywhere to dig. We can't seem to see what's down there. There's an infinite amount of disturbance creating the sound that sounds like screams at this point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And we can't refine the sound beyond the point and hear anything else. And because we can't put any other machine to receive any other data. We're caught between a rock and a hard place. There's nothing. There's nowhere else to go.
Cristina: No. So what do they do?
Jack: They decide, all right, the right way to go is to just dive deeper into the data. We're gonna send all the resistant technology we have and capture days, weeks, months, years of recording through the geo, through the micro, all of it. All of the above. We're gonna do anything and everything. Thermometers, different positions, aim in every direction, all the things.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Gonna gather A lot of data. We're gonna cross reference every bit of it and see if we can capture anything that we can determine is a thing. Okay, great, solid plan.
Cristina: It makes sense.
Jack: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Until that report stating those things like we're gonna do these things is the last report.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: Don't know. Nobody knows. So the last report goes out and the team, the science team, all the engineers, all the scientists, everybody stayed there for two months though, but the reports completely stopped. Yes, interesting. So a bunch of scientists whose job it is to report and get funding to report, completely cut themselves off from the world, which means they even cut themselves out from their funding in order to continue doing what? Because they didn't report on anything they did for the next two months and there's nothing. At the end of those two months, the project just ends and they leave. Everybody dips. They don't, no follow up, no additional reports. Everything gets abandoned. They're just leaving mass. All 3,000 and something people just f****** dip. They're like, nah. Now a bunch of author, you know, this, this was a funded project and whatnot.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So there was a lot of questions, of course, to which out of every single individual there not f****** one wanted to talk about. There was a plethora of people, thousands of individual working on this project.
Cristina: But then they record anything like why did they have to interview these people? Don't they have the things?
Jack: Yes, they have all the information. Before that two month gap, but not.
Cristina: During those two months.
Jack: Nothing was recorded. Through that two months gap, nothing was, Nothing was reported. Okay, through that two month gap between the last report saying we need to just gather information, gather information. And when they left, there's nothing. It's just two months of nothing. Radio silence. And then everybody's like, we're leaving. And then they all go home. And then people question them and they're like, never talking about it. Leave me alone. People go into hiding. People go disappear. People leave Russia entirely. Because authorities like, well, you have data we need. What the f***?
Cristina: So where's the data though? Did they find the data?
Jack: Nobody has found anything for that two month period. Nothing exists for that two month period. Like, like they destroyed it themselves. No, there's nothing. For that two month period, nothing has ever been captured. In fact, to the point, to the point that a lot of people, you know, in the clear minded, weird making sense of it, say there wasn't anything recorded. The project literally stopped two months prior. And that two months period, nothing happened. Except when these people are questioned, their response isn't Nothing happened in that period. The response is, we're not talking about it.
Cristina: We're not talking.
Jack: We're not talking about it. That's way more suspicious than. We weren't there for those two months.
Cristina: Yeah, that is.
Jack: That's way more suspicious. Thousands of people left. Many. Almost half of them were like, we're leaving the country. It's like, okay, you're leaving your native country immediately after being on some science project that we have no data for.
Cristina: Mmm, that's messed up.
Jack: Something weird happened.
Cristina: Yes. And I'm guessing there's a lot of theories of many, many, many, what can be.
Jack: But so in an attempt to understand the origin of what took place or anything. In attempt to understand anything. Okay, a different team is built and sent to go and investigate the site.
Cristina: You know, how long after.
Jack: Must have been like 10 years later. And they go to investigate the site to find whatever. Because for years these people are being hunted and questioned and anything. And nothing. Nothing, nothing. Nobody. Nobody wants to do anything. Nobody wants to do anything at all. And so a team gets put together by an organization that wants data. You know, it's our data. You guys owe us the data. And the team goes. And they arrive at the site to find all four holes are special sealed.
Cristina: They close up the holes.
Jack: They close up the holes. Layers of closing it up. There was crap thrown into them. They were filled up as much as possible. There were something thrown midway through the hole so that it would resist whatever's being thrown on top, like cement and concrete and s*** to seal it up. And then it was still. And then a lid was put over every single one on top of that so that when they drilled through the lid of two of them, they notice it's just nothing but sealed straight through. And when they tried to drill a little, it's like, no, this is like, it's impossible.
Cristina: It's.
Jack: It's like if it was never dug before, we got to start the whole project all over just to find out what happened down there in the first place. We'd have to crap however long it took to drill. Drill. We're doing this all over again if we wanted to find out, do they?
Cristina: Or is it impossible?
Jack: Pointless. But again, what the f***?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Now, this is just strange. You guys dipped. You guys sealed the h*** out of this. You told nobody and you reported on nothing. Okay, we lost the data. Scientists all quit. They took every fine given to them for erasing data, whatever the crap, you know?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They happily accepted everything and never said a single word. Nobody did. No One just let millions of dollars in fines people sent into ruin and they still shut the f*** up the entire way.
Cristina: Oh my gosh.
Jack: Yeah. They're like totally, totally fine. I am okay with you making me, my family and my entire lineage dirt poor. I'm not telling you what happened.
Cristina: Okay. What?
Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: An investigative team is then made. We're gonna capture whatever data did make it out. We're gonna hoard all of it. There's no data. Whatever crap we can find related to this stupid f****** hole, we're putting it all together. It doesn't matter how much because they.
Cristina: Can'T investigate the holes.
Jack: Yeah. It's impossible.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What did they buy following the launch of this investigation to find out this is now like 15 years later. They find out that just after the team left, this is data gathered. Is information gathered. Just after the team left, there was again, there was the two month gap of nothing. But they were there. Everybody was there. And then everybody left. The lead scientists, Boris Volkov and the field manager, which was an Anya Navikov, both committed suicide or alleged. Oh yeah, whatever suicide is. I mean, what, A demon came and like killed them? No, whatever. So they, they killed themselves. They probably did it. Like really. So the two people who had the highest grade of knowledge about the information because they would get the data from every branch on the site. Everybody.
Cristina: They weren't on the site themselves.
Jack: They were on the site themselves.
Cristina: They were?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: They were both the highest two ranking individuals on the site and both the two highest individuals on the site committed suicide.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: After the two month period with dead silence and no reports, they all went home. Everybody, all the people on site and then these two head scientists. Both the head scientists committed suicide. No other scientists contacted by these two individuals or nothing. Nobody knew that that even happened.
Cristina: Okay. Except. But. Okay, so then what else did they find out? They found. They did find something though.
Jack: All the data that we already knew. The sounds that couldn't be clarified because they refused to get more data or they got more data that we just don't have access to, or they destroyed all the data they got. Something happened.
Cristina: So we can't hear these sounds ourselves.
Jack: We can and it just sounds like screams, but it's. It's not. We don't have an explanation. There's no, we don't have any of the follow up from those two months.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we only have up and up until it sounds like screams, then radio silence, then everybody leaves. And then two people commit suicide in that order.
Cristina: And that's the end of that story. There has to be more. What? There's gotta be more. What happened? Demons? Aliens? Alien demons. Lizard people.
Jack: Well, it's complicated. That's crazy, right? Because these people got this information and they're on this test site and they are running these experiments and they get something that scares them or confuse it breaks. Well, it scares some of them. But the real true, like we've experienced weird things before. Scientists are on board like whatever weird things happen sometimes and then we figure it out. But then they. These two individuals must be the individuals who plunged the site into dark. No report goes out. It had to be their call.
Cristina: Okay, yeah.
Jack: Nobody else has the power to do that. We're talking about the person who manages everything on site and the scientists that all the data goes through.
Cristina: So the field manager holes and then kill themselves.
Jack: Yeah. They get people to plug up the holes, everybody to go home and talk about nothing. And then they off the two on top off themselves. Now, whatever the case might be, these two individuals tell everybody no data goes out and everybody agrees problem. You're all scientists. You know this is not the way to do it. Yeah, you're supposed to share it. Regards of weird. It is because you need somebody else to get this information and replicate it.
Cristina: Mm.
Jack: Why not let anything out? How do you get this many people to agree to this? They were like 3,000 people working on this project. How do you get this many people to agree to say nothing?
Cristina: Because it's that horrifying.
Jack: And when you evacuate the site, why? Why? Almost half of you straight out say, I am just leaving the entire dirt patch that this s*** happened on. I'm just leaving this.
Cristina: It's gotta be creatures down there or something. Like it has to be something physical that they were afraid would come out of those holes.
Jack: It has to be something physical because.
Cristina: Like if you killed yourself, you left the country and then you kill yourself. Or if maybe these guys didn't leave the country and still kill themselves.
Jack: But it's like, yes, Boris and Anya died in Russia.
Cristina: Yeah. They were afraid of whatever is in that.
Jack: Then a bunch of other people completely left.
Cristina: Afraid of what's in that hole.
Jack: Afraid of what's in that hole.
Cristina: There's got to be something scary in that hole. I guess not just like ghosts or.
Jack: Yes, the world obviously can't cope with anything. And the little bits of information that have been released from this, obviously you hear screams. This led to a plethora of conspiracy theories and other dumb ideas that people have. You know, the whole went around Titled the. The H***. The H*** Hole or the Hole to H***. And the sounds. The recording was titled. And you probably saw this in like high school or something. The Voices of H***.
Cristina: I think I have seen videos of the Voices of H***.
Jack: I mean, videos doesn't exist. It's just probably like a YouTube. Yeah, you could hear the clip. The clip is real. Yeah, it's the video. There's no video.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: But yeah, that video that circulated many years ago and randomly pops up again. People like, oh, my God, this hole has been discovered. That hole is old, bro. But those sounds that keep circulating, that's the finest data we have.
Cristina: But it's not the true data. Like, it's not.
Jack: Couldn't be.
Cristina: Yeah, it couldn't be.
Jack: There couldn't be humans underground screaming in pain. H*** could not exist below us. And we can prove it because there was the other three holes. When we go to a certain depth and we pull out, the ground collapses on itself. The ground naturally collapses on itself. It makes sense that this would happen because of the amount of pressure of tons and tons and tons and tons and tons. Trillions of tons of dirt crushing the dirt beneath it. So you move anything, Bloom collapses. There couldn't be h*** underneath us. The theories don't make sense. And then there's a void down there somehow. If h*** were to be anywhere, it'd be a f****** void underground. Makes sense. It's also absorbently hot. Hotter than anything was melting the equipment.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: In this void. Oh, I guess that's a detail I forgot. Inside the void spinning, nothing touches nothing. You can lower the drill without spitting it at the lowest tip. The full extent, maxing out how far we can push the drill. The tip of the drill melted. It melted the geophone and melted the microphone, and it melted the tip of the drill. So at some point they hit a depth so hot that it melted the hottest equipment.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yes. So it was like a limit how far down they could go.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Before nothing can make it. Now they should, in theory, stay there and study this. Which they do. You don't stay out of site for two months. A bunch of half engineers, half scientists doing re. I guess they're all scientists, half engineers, half researchers running this series of tests and then have no data to show for it. Everybody agreed. Maybe right before they left. Although they didn't report back. There was a. All these reports happened weekly until this two month period. And then there's none for eight months. For eight weeks. No report for eight weeks. And then they leave. There was a weekly report without Exception for years and years and years and years. And then there's eight weeks of no report. Everybody's still there because we know this, because everybody leaves.
Cristina: Yeah. I don't understand. Because if it was that scary, I guess like whatever they found at first they didn't really believe. And it took two weeks to really believe that what it was two months. Well, two months. But you're saying eight weeks. Oh, eight weeks. Okay. Why would it take so long? Unless that whole time they were just cleaning up their. What they've been working on.
Jack: Interesting. Maybe there was. Oh, wow. Maybe there was more data. Not that they captured data in those two months, but all the data that they did not report in. Yeah, those two months was your time to get rid of it.
Cristina: Yeah. Interesting. They don't want whatever is down there, but I don't know, why keep it a secret?
Jack: Why keep it a secret? No, the. I think the theory that they were gathering information in those two months is real. And some part of this, like at some point they did get enough. Let's say, hypothetically they do the first month of just collecting and they're refining all that information. We're getting all the sounds, all the vibrations possible, mixing all of it and getting the clearest possible visual, not literally, but visual of what's happening. About a month in, they get the clearest image so far. And they don't like that.
Cristina: Yes, this horrifying creature that probably lives down their creatures something for sure.
Jack: And then they say get rid of everything. We can't have anybody curious about what's happening here. Nobody can want to investigate because whatever the f*** is down there has to stay down there. We have to erase everything. If anybody goes back down there, we're all f***** forever. Yes, that must be the conclusion for just over 3,000 people to bail together all everybody and not talk about it. It must be so horrible.
Cristina: The rest of us, like even if, like suppose that there was really creatures down there that surviving down there or.
Jack: Whatever, like science would say somebody is gonna say something.
Cristina: They can't come up here though. They can't survive up here.
Jack: Who says?
Cristina: If they're living down where it's super duper hot, like that's their environment. They're the lava creatures you're talking about. Like you can't take a lava creature out of the lava.
Jack: Yeah, but let's assume it can come out. Why would we assume it couldn't? Look at it like this. We can find something like a. What is it, a water elephant? I think that's what it's called a water elephant or some s*** like that. The tiny, microscopic creature that is a mammal. And it could literally survive in the vacuum of space. And we could take it to the hottest places we've ever experienced. Actually, we don't have to take it anywhere. Everywhere we go, we have seen this creature surviving. Surviving. It doesn't matter how hot, how cold. There is no air in space. And we have found this f***** out there.
Jack: It's just everywhere.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Meaning there's things we know factually could exist in the hottest climate hotter than that s***, that can just survive equal just as equally in the frostiest of places.
Cristina: Wouldn't they have to experiment to know that that's a thing about these specific creatures?
Jack: Well, we wouldn't know that that's a thing about the specific creatures. I'm directly responding to the fact you said they couldn't come out.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Well, they don't know that in either direction. To just make the blanket assumption no would be against the logic of science. We know there's creatures that can. So they couldn't just be like, well, they're down there. They exist in the super hot depth. They couldn't come up. Let's not plug the hole up. Like, no, that doesn't make sense. Because we know things that can survive both. And if it was horrifying enough that we're scared of it down there.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Then like, let's not assume. Let's just assume this works like the water bear. And just like it's. If it could survive down there, I don't want to find out if it could survive out here. But then what could it be?
Cristina: What could it be?
Jack: That's the question. What happened in those two months? Why did Boris and Anya commit suicide? Why did half of all the workers on this project, a combo of engineers and researchers, completely abandoned? Not just ship. Well, everybody abandoned ship. But these people abandoned country.
Cristina: Like, did they also commit suicide?
Jack: No. No, no, no. Well, I don't know. Two people committed suicide. I guess the only two notable people that mattered committed suicide.
Cristina: Okay. Because it would be. Because if they just left, that means they probably just think it's there.
Jack: Exactly. Which brings up the interesting question of why did a bunch of people leave the country, but the two most senior, most informed commit suicide? They would know better. They were the oldest ones. They were in charge of the most. They would get information from every department on every site, every part of this that would go through them. Those are the only two people to kill themselves, as far as I know. So they didn't think it was just there, if that's the argument we're making. They thought, oh, no, there's no getting away.
Cristina: There's no getting away, huh? I don't know. Because they plug the holes and there's no way anyone's ever gonna do that again.
Jack: I mean, they plug the holes and then they kill themselves. That's hella steps. And you do one or the other. Plug the hole. Okay, I don't gotta kill myself. It's done. Or you kill yourself because we couldn't plug the hole.
Cristina: Or it was just that scarring. Whatever it was, was so scarring they had to kill themselves. Like whether they thought it was ever gonna come out or not or whatever.
Jack: Maybe there's nothing to come out then what could have been done there? There's nothing to come out. There's not a creature. But something down there was so impressionable that everybody quit. Everybody quit? What? Everybody quit? How? Why? What? What, what other event in his all of history did you get everybody to quit? Everybody? Are you kidding me?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Scientists whose job it is to talk about endlessly whatever the h*** they found, however weird it is. They were like, nah, we're all done. All of us. All the researchers, which should be the most fascinated by this. Yeah, all the engineers. This should be the most curious about figuring out what the problem is.
Cristina: Someone wrote in their diary before they. And someone's gonna find after they're dead or something.
Jack: Like everybody's alive. Most of these people. Well, no, it was a while ago. A bunch of just died of old age. But a bunch of these people are still alive and nobody has said crap.
Cristina: But we should find stuff though, that they've written eventually.
Jack: Someone was total and complete agreement not to say anything. Not even writing. No, nothing. Nobody ever mentions this in any context ever again.
Cristina: That seems so impossible.
Jack: Yes, but how was this in the 70s? And we're still not. We've not gotten anything beyond 89 and.
Cristina: We'Ll never try again.
Jack: No people have tried again following 89, there was 10 years. And then after failing to do all this, after failing to do all this, they really got a whole team to go and investigate it, go and explore the site, which is how they found it was plugged up to this degree.
Cristina: Why couldn't they just make another hole there?
Jack: They would have to restart the entire project. And you'd need to send the same number of people all over again to run this facility. And you still risk all of them doing the same s*** all over again. Just. You just threw funding away Two times in a row you risk the entire project playing out exactly the same way. After you relaunched it, it was already a. What is it started? 70. It was a 20 year project to begin with. So you got. You're gonna sink 20 years worth of funding all over again. With the potential that you get the same results and never find out. S***. Of course they didn't restart it. Of course didn't go Drilligan. There's a huge waste of finances for zero f****** turnaround.
Cristina: What if they did it somewhere else though? Because we still don't know.
Jack: It's been happening many times in many places.
Cristina: Many places, yes.
Jack: United States has one, China has one. There's huge deep hole digging projects that have always existed and continue to exist today.
Cristina: Okay, but nothing as weird as what happened in Russia.
Jack: No, this is one one off time.
Cristina: That's why it makes it also like maybe it is only in Russia. Whatever this thing is.
Jack: A bunch of people left.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Almost half left the country.
Cristina: Yes. And these holes are everywhere. But it's only Russia's hole that's being kind of weird.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: So I don't know.
Jack: It's only Russia's hole. And we have again many projects just like this. It's a thing we do to explore underneath the ground. But only in Russia, right in the border of Russia and Norway, do we have a situation which everybody evacuated after two months of complete darkness and no report being fed back. And then all the data that was gathered within that time totally ceasing to exist, presumably having been destroyed by the same people who recorded it prior to them completely abandoning ship and talking nothing about it and two of them immediately killing themselves. Holy s***.
Cristina: Why?
Jack: What Is it the weirdest thing that's happened?
Cristina: Yeah, that's the weirdest thing that's happened. Probably not the weirdest.
Jack: It's pretty weird. It's up there.
Cristina: It's up there.
Jack: But it's just a weird thing that happened to one time.
Cristina: Yeah, man. They'll never do it again. Or at least not there.
Jack: The Cola Superdeep borehole. It's in a bunch of places already. It's just nothing like this has happened before. And nobody's willing to waste the money to do this again. Because what if it happens again? And then if it does happen again, are you then responsible for whoever does commit suicide following that? Because it already happened once. And if you send people and it happens again, well, you know what would happen now? You're going to jail for putting people in that situation. There's so much crap happening there.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That it's like there's no motivation to ever do this again. But what the h*** happened to people.
Cristina: Who are brave enough, who hear this story and it's like.
Jack: Yeah, no, there's. Yeah, you're totally right. There's enough people to create a real Gotham City of villains that swear I'm the guy who's going to stop Batman. After seeing Batman off like 90% of his homies.
Cristina: Exactly.
Jack: Like I'm the one. The bat's gonna have a hard time when he comes across me. Some average henchman. It's like, what?
Cristina: Yeah, dude, it totally makes sense. Especially in Russia with all those like, everybody's Machisto.
Jack: Yeah, in Soviet Russia, Batman gets f***** by me.
Cristina: Exactly. So that would.
Jack: And it was literally Soviet Russia. It was the Soviet Union's experiment. Well, that's the. I think out of all the things we've discussed, we've. Overlooking the fact that they're Russian. You scared a bunch of Russians into fully just evacuating and then abandoning their own country and then never talking about it from how shook they were. What?
Cristina: Yes, that's pretty cool.
Jack: But what the h*** did they see? You think a Russian sees anything? And it's like, I'm a fist fighter.
Cristina: There's gotta be someone who's gonna be like, yeah, we can do this.
Jack: Here's the thing. I guess it makes more sense that they wouldn't talk about it because I am no b****.
Cristina: Because if you talk about it, you sound like it.
Jack: Yeah, exactly. I didn't see s***. I didn't see s***. I saw nothing. I wasn't even there. No, you were there. I say I wasn't.
Cristina: Okay, yeah.
Jack: So that's the cola. Super deep borehole. Told you. Nothing special. I had nothing to report. There's really nothing going on because there's never been anything confirmed. It's just a f****** hole. As far as we know. Wanted to know what was special. Couldn't tell you. I have zero answers to that question. It's a whole. Like I said, in between. Russia, Norway.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: It's just a hole in between. Russian, Norway. That's part of an experiment that we were running one day.
Cristina: Time for numbers to some other plane of existence. Maybe. Who knows?
Jack: Who knows, man? That'd be crazy. Can you imagine?
Cristina: We can imagine anything. It's ridiculous.
Jack: Anything could be down there. Yeah, anything. It could literally be anything. We have zero knowledge. All we know is that it for a fact cannot be a bunch of people screaming because the pressure alone would have murdered all of them.
Cristina: Yeah, I don't Think it's people screaming.
Jack: But something weird's going on.
Cristina: Yes, definitely.
Jack: Definitely. My strongest argument is yours, which is maybe there were creatures out there. What we were hearing wasn't human screaming, but some screech of something.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And there was a lot of it. It immediately makes me think of the film Pitch Black with Vin Diesel.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: It's like, there's a weird other thing. Now. This was an Alien movie, but let's assume some s***. In fact, there's a movie just like this. There's a bunch of cave divers.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then they come across some weird s*** in the caves. Thing doesn't come out, but it's definitely f****** down there.
Cristina: And it kills everyone.
Jack: Kills everybody. So, yeah, something like that, maybe.
Cristina: Yeah, probably.
Jack: You know, what the f*** is that movie based on? Who knows? Yeah, exactly. Like, there's. There was something scary enough that it felt real as well. There's something real and scary, or at least scary. And we couldn't confirm it wasn't real. That's the fact of the matter. We couldn't write it off and say, this is clearly the disturbance that's making it seem this way. Nobody could do that. Out of over 3,000 people there, not one person had that statement and an ending to the sentence of, it could be this. Nobody had that. And that made everybody be like, the fact that we can't say, it could be this f****** problem. I'm out.
Cristina: That's. Yeah, man.
Jack: There's a lot of scientists here. There's many of us. One of us has a theory. Nah, I'm out. Not one of us has a theory. No, I'm not. This. I'm not doing this. I am not staying here. Nobody has a theory. You're kidding me. We are all the best of the best. None of us has a theory. I'm out, dude. Not happening. It sounds horrible. And nobody has a theory. I'm going home.
Cristina: That is pretty horrifying. That's pretty horrifying. I don't know. Yeah, whatever is in there.
Jack: You're the best scientist that has ever existed. All of you are together. Every best scientist in the world was just put in one location. All the best in your whole country brought together. You hear something really weird. You're like, well, I don't know what it is, but we're a team of experts out here. And then the second guy comes and does the same thing, and he's like, I don't know. And the third guy comes and does the same thing. He's like, I don't know. And you starting to get, you know, give weird looks like. I know I'm not the expert here because I couldn't figure it out, but shouldn't we have an expert here? But that guy was the sound guy and he said he has no idea. This guy's the. This guy's a geophone guy. And he's like, he has no idea. That kid's whole job is just to find out what sounds are, and he has no idea. I am done. I don't want to talk about it.
Cristina: Because they had an idea. They had to.
Jack: They had to. Right? And it was scary.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Because they. If they. No, fair enough. That makes sense. Because if they don't know, they will keep looking.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That is science. Because you're like, we can write this off somehow. In any case, you're totally right. It's not that.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Yes. It's not that they couldn't get an answer. It's not that. Everybody's like, I don't know. Because you just keep looking until you do know.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Is that somebody did know. And then everybody else is like, oh, f***, no, that checks out. And then they were like, okay, everybody agrees this is what we think is happening. And everybody's. Yeah.
Cristina: It's like had to agree.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Then there would be someone talking if they were like, meh, this doesn't make sense.
Jack: Well, no. As scientists, if somebody has a theory, everybody work. If this is the only theory we have, everybody's gonna prove it. We're all gonna try to disprove the theory. And if we can't. F***.
Cristina: Which they couldn't.
Jack: Which they couldn't. So somebody gave a theory. They jumped on trying to disprove the theory. They failed at disproving the theory and unanimously agreed it is what the theory was. And we're never gonna mention that to anybody. We're gonna plug up the holes and get the f*** out. Destroy everything. Throw everything into the f****** hole.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And then plug the hole. And then we leave.
Cristina: Yes. Make sure they. Whatever. Can't come out and we can't go in.
Jack: Yes. Make sure nobody goes down there and make sure nothing ever comes out of there.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: Two way plug.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: All the data in, all the. Plug in, all the. Nothing out, nothing out, nothing back in. Done.
Cristina: Man. Man, that's lame.
Jack: They go, the cola supermassive, super massive. The cola super deep bore borehole.
Cristina: Interesting.
Jack: Yep. That's all I got for you. A boring hole with no information about what the f*** happened there. That was just a science experiment. I told you at the beginning. I Told you the beginning. It's just a hole in between. Russia, Norway.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: That was done as a experiment to see how deep we can go. And that's it. Nothing else could be said.
Cristina: Do people that hear that voice, the. The video that is out there, that's what people think is actually down there, though.
Jack: Yeah. But we don't have anything else to go on.
Cristina: That's not the whole story.
Jack: No, they don't know what the whole story is.
Cristina: Okay. Wow.
Jack: Yep. So, yeah, now you learned about an interesting science or I guess an uninteresting science experiment in which we were like, let's dig a deep hole and then we dig a deep hole. And they were like, cool, Mission accomplished. Then we all go home.
Cristina: Go home.
Jack: Never talk about we did it. Time to go home and do another project.
Jack: There you go. The cola. Super deep or hole? We. We said we're gonna dig a deep hole, then we dig a deep hole. We high five each other and go home.
Cristina: That's crazy.
Jack: Yes. So, yeah, that's. That's all I got for you. Anyways, so we've never really talked about this borehole before, but I'm sure we're gonna investigate this further to some degree. But on the other side, there's a bunch of interesting crap that we've discussed on the show. And if you want to find little clips and check of that stuff and.
Cristina: Get in contact with anything as horrifying as this.
Jack: Oh yeah, any story you got, any information on this freaking hole you guys have would be great too. So anything. It's just scientists who type this every day since it happened. Because you're like, oh, what does anybody know? I gotta expunge all the data off the Internet. And you like stumble upon the thing because it is probably going to be titled this anyways. And you find it, tell us your story. Finally open to us this super important program and tell us so that we can share with the world what really happened there. And I guess if you. If it's such a thing. Right. Send us the data that you clearly took with you home. Anyways, all this information, little clips and junk and you can contact us all at junk at Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, ustconvopod.
Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show.
Jack: Yes. And in the review, send us a Diglett. If you can find a Diglett. You know what it. If you don't know what Pokemon is, go just type in Diglett and find the thingy. Or just find a worm. Send us the worm because holes. There you go. Send Us a worm, because hole is a worm emoji. Or send us the word hole. The end. Just type in hole. And what does it say? It's like when you spell out pizza in the comment section, like you're awesome or something. You won life or whatever without somebody interrupting. So you can dispel a hole in your own review because nobody can interrupt your review. And boom, you win.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You win the game.
Cristina: And let someone who might like this show know about it.
Jack: Yes. And tell them about the hole.
Cristina: Tell them about the hole. We gotta investigate this hole. Let's make a new team.
Jack: The hole to the middle.
Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: They're not allowed to go farther. They're not allowed to venture to other sides surrounding they. We're not allowed to be over any part. Well, not us, but people. Humans aren't allowed to be any part of the planet that is outside the circle. The Arctic Wall, okay?
Cristina: And everything in the Arctic Wall is.
Jack: What we call Earth.
Cristina: What we call Earth. Okay?
Jack: Everything inside the Arctic Wall is what we call Earth.
Cristina: And when we're looking at globes, we're just looking at what's in the Arctic Wall.
Jack: Yes. We're seeing the entire Arctic Wall made round as though. I mean, everything inside the Arctic Wall made round as though it existed on a globe. Now, the plan. Globe.
Cristina: But it's a huge globe.
Jack: Yes. If you were to assume, for example, the. If. If a globe. Right. If a globe is to scale, then you would say. Let's say you see Puerto Rico on a map. Right. On a globe. You see Puerto Rico on a globe, and you zoom into Puerto Rico and you draw a circle around Puerto Rico. And now you erase everything else on the oceans and around Puerto Rico. You create a circle, you color the circle white, and then everything you took out of the rest of the globe you shrink to the size of Puerto Rico on this current existing globe.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: So all the continents we're familiar with, all the countries we're familiar with, you shrink them all so that they fit inside the circle we made around Puerto Rico, okay? And now you back up from that circle, from that circle, and you're gonna see the size of Earth.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: And how small our region that we call Earth is on Earth.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister with social media managed by Amber Black.