Rambling 167: The Rogue Clouds
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Are all clouds good? If not, which are the bad ones? Are they a danger to society? And which are the real gods of clouds? The duo dives deeper into clouds and their social structure uncovering all forms of twisted curiosities.
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Topics Discussed:
- Fog
- Ghosts
- Vampire Clouds
- Red Clouds
- Black Clouds
- Blood Drinking
- Adrenochrome
- The Shadow Realm
- Hexagonal Clouds
- Cloud Cults
- Bermuda Triangle
- God Tier Clouds
- Gas Giants
- Stars
- Nebula
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Cristina: This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised.
Jack: Going live in 5, 4.
Cristina: What does live mean?
Jack: welcome to the Rambling Podcast, the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas in childish ways. I am your host, Jack.
Cristina: And I am your host, Christina.
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Cristina: Also, this show is most enjoyable with a listening partner to share opinions and ideas on topics we discuss.
Jack: Yeah, so be sure to grab somebody, bring them nice and close, and prepare to go on a doozy of a woozy. Because it's true. Z. Awesome. I'm sure some of that would work. Some of that was words. Yeah, so? So look, man, last time on Dragon Ball Z, we had Steve. Steve. Yeah, we found out that Steve the groundhog needs to go and talk to the clouds using his weather powers or whatever the f***. Apparently it might have not been weather powers to begin with, but rather communication with the clouds that are responsible for most weather phenomenon in the first place.
Cristina: Yes. Also, Dragon Ball Z has a magical cloud thing.
Jack: Flying Nimbus.
Cristina: Nimbus, yeah, totally.
Jack: Yeah, it's appropriately mentioning in this episode. Good job. So, you know, it works. Works. Steve, the replacement for Phil that we murdered through sheer necessity and because of stupidity. Really? But yeah, Phil dead. Steve replaced Steve. Learning stuff. Well, we now found out that maybe Steve can maybe communicate with the clouds, can detect specifically a cloud we need, and then we can communicate with Akashita, the most op cloud roaming Earth.
Cristina: Yes. Is he the God Cloud?
Jack: He's the God Cloud as compared to clouds on Earth.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: In fact, if we were to use Dragon Ball Z as an example, Akashita is kind of like Kami.
Cristina: Okay?
Jack: You know, he's not like there's gods more godly. Yes, but he's the God out here, you know? And you know what? We're gonna keep using that example because it works. It works because what happened is in having this conversation last. Mm, we hit a couple of important notes after looking and trying to sift through the cloud military organization that they've got set up in order to find Akashita, which we didn't. But you luckily happened to connect the dots enough to find out that we could track them down if we use Steve. Maybe Steve has the ability to sense Akashita and like weed them out instead of us f****** scoping one by one.
Cristina: That would be so impossible.
Jack: Yes. So I asked some of the sub humans to give me a report on we're gonna leave the civilian clouds alone. But we've gone through the militarization of clouds. But we do know that there are certain clouds that were outcasts. And I was wondering if there's such a heavy military force of clouds. There's a giant organization. Most clouds seem to be. Or not most, but like, a lot. The ones we're very familiar with, our military clouds tend to be military clouds. So what is. What is. What are their targets when it's not the cat people?
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: You get my point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: What are their targets when it's not the cat people?
Cristina: Vampire clouds.
Jack: Yes. Who are they policing other than the vampire clouds? But we also wanted some information on the vampire cloud. So pretty much the report that landed on our desk we have in front of us right here is a report entirely based on the rogue clouds. The clouds that cause trouble for the other clouds.
Cristina: They cause trouble to us also, a.
Jack: Lot of the time. Yes.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Which, surprisingly enough, the roads led to familiar territory, as all things usually do. And we expected some of it. But the other dots connecting to them make a lot of sense. And we, for whatever reason, never thought about this really. They really, really do. And it's kind of astounding. And in fact, that's our starting point at the top of this document. Because we start at fog.
Cristina: Yes. Which is supernatural. Usually.
Jack: Yes. Fog is already abandoned in general. Normal cloud activity. It's just dipped out. Clouds are way up there. Fog is like, f*** you guys. I'm down here.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Now, fog is interesting kind of thing because it's highly associated with paranormal activity.
Cristina: And, yes, with ghosts.
Jack: Yes. But we never really question why. And it makes a lot of sense why we shall get to eventually. But one of the features that comes with fog, aside from the fact that it's supernatural, but rather one of the reasons that it is supernatural is that fog tends to, you know, it comes down really low.
Cristina: Very low. Yeah.
Jack: And it's usually touching the surface of our ground. All the other clouds tend to stay away from that. We've. We've got an agreement. We don't do this. We don't interact with you. Don't f*** up your s***. Our planes go through the end. You let our planes pass by.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And that's it. We don't interact. We don't do much. You let our rockets go through the end.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: We're not trying to harm you. We're trying to get from point A to point B. The end. Fog doesn't care. They're just outward violating treaties and violating Rules established by the humans and the.
Cristina: Clouds probably causing accidents.
Jack: That's actually part of the situation, in fact. Yes. But primarily the first point here is the fact that they lower temperature. Where there is fog, there is cold. Nice chill, a little bit freezed. Oh, it's nice and cold here.
Cristina: Goosebumps already just by looking at it.
Jack: Yeah. Yeah. Actually, a lot of features lead up to the bigger picture, and cold is one of them. So we know. We're gonna keep in mind that paranormal activity is associated with this, and we're gonna guide our way to why paranormal activity happens at all. Because it's not that the fog itself is out here, like calling anything, but.
Cristina: Rather, it's summoning ghosts.
Jack: No.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Instead is that its behavior is crooked enough that it sort of allows for this to form in the cracks of it.
Cristina: The cracks of it?
Jack: Yeah. Now, fog isn't inherently bad. One of the tricks of fog, aside from lowering temperature, is that when it falls down into places where there are warm blooded creatures, it does siphon blood out of warm blooded creatures. Humans actively get colder, but it does it in a microscopic way fashion. While we're used to thinking of a vampire lands on your neck, immediately starts draining huge quantities of blood.
Cristina: This is more like a mosquito, Way.
Jack: Less than a mosquito.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: A mosquito taking huge quantities while a cloud comes down. Keep in mind the size of clouds. We see them far away, and we see them much smaller than they are. They're huge.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: One of these clouds comes down, covers an area, huge portion, 2, 3 miles at a time. And out of all the people there, it's taken fractions. But how many people are there? So it's a different method of doing the same thing and harming nobody in the process.
Cristina: Yes. So, but if they did overboard, those might be the space clouds we were talking about before.
Jack: We're gonna get there. Yes.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Interesting, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And not necessarily space clouds. They are just normal clouds, just outcast into space. But this method of consuming the adrenaline out of the blood is unique.
Cristina: That is so crazy.
Jack: It's very different. A very different approach. It harms nobody. Collectively, it allows the cloud to get the adrenochrome it needs.
Cristina: But why does it need it?
Jack: Why does nobody needs it? People just get to it, I guess. And then you want it more.
Cristina: Then you want it more. Yes, that's true.
Jack: Yeah. It makes you better than all the clouds. It makes you more powerful. Blah. You become a danger to anything that is like you. That isn't you.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: You know? And so I find, first of all that completely fascinating. The fact that this cloud. These clouds, I suppose fog clouds have figured out and flock fog clouds are just like any other cloud, minus the fact that they're not up there. They just like, f*** this.
Cristina: And they've given yes.
Jack: And they come down and they start siphoning slowly. Now, they're not outcasted yet. They're choosing to sort of be rebels, but they're not harming anybody. So we don't have a problem with it yet.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah, yeah, we.
Jack: We don't have a problem yet. Nobody's getting harmed. It decreases visibility. Kind of dangerous.
Cristina: It could cause problems, but not by a lot.
Jack: There's a huge difference between the clouds that do cause visibility problems that we get warned about on our phones. They go off and they're like, oh, there's a problem outside.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And the ones that are just clouds that are like, less visibility than usual. But you'll be fine out there.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: That's what's out there. Just a. Yeah, it's less visible. You'll be fine. You can see far enough to not worry.
Cristina: But the ones that are super too foggy, do they get in trouble?
Jack: We'll get there.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: The clouds that are. That we can see through are responsible for the cold dropping and for siphoning blood away. Gradually, they start. They're still not outcasted by the rest of the clouds. Right. So their behavior is very unique. Their structure is still like all the other clouds. They tend to be primarily made of ice.
Cristina: They're made up ice. Okay.
Jack: So their exotic. Yeah, their exact structure is vapor that has frozen over. So this is a very interesting structural cloud because it's like essentially the same clouds that are way up there, just way down here. While there are clouds made exclusively of vapor, this is not one of them. This is an ice cloud, which is why the temperature is also low. Part of its effect when there is fog is that it lowers the temperature, but it's an interesting effect that it has because basically your body constricts when it gets colder and relaxes when it gets loose when it's hot. So by making it colder, it makes your body squeeze its veins more so it's easier to extract the blood.
Jack: Weird.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah. So it's interesting. Now you just feel cold, but in a weird tactical kind of way, it's optimizing being able to almost get your body to evaporate blood off of its surface so that in microscopic doses it could take enough. And collectively, it's got a f*** ton of blood.
Cristina: Whoa.
Jack: But for its size is also very small because it's huge. Miles and miles and miles. A couple of thousand people, you know, so you're not taking a lot, but you're also not harming anybody. There's no reason to be policed by other clouds. Yeah, but you're already kind of on the edge. They keep their eye on you youu know, they're like, that Bob. He's into some weird s***. That f****** Bob cloud. You know what he's doing? Yeah, I know what he's saying. He doesn't hurt people, but you know what he's doing. And those are the fog clouds.
Cristina: Okay. What?
Jack: So that's pretty interesting now.
Cristina: That is crazy interesting. Is there anything more interesting than that?
Jack: When it goes a little out of control. Yes, because when it goes a little out of control, we get to the vampire cloud.
Cristina: That's the one that we're calling that they get kicked out into space. Or this is a whole different cloud.
Jack: This is one of the two variants that get kicked out into space. So vampire clouds, we can call these the red clouds. The red clouds take absolutely too much blood, which is usually something that happens. You know, it's hard to keep an adrenochrome healthy balance going.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: You kind of always want more. And unless you have the same exact amount, it always feels like you didn't get enough.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And so basically, in order to not go feral, which is the effect of somebody who takes adrenochroma and stops. And apparently it happens to the clouds too. And when I mention the next cloud, you're gonna be like, oh, s***. Right, that cloud. But vampire clouds, AKA the red clouds.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: They are at a point where they can retain their sanity and be lucid as long as they get the right amount of adrenochrome or more.
Cristina: What do they look like? Do they. Is there any unique feature?
Jack: This. Imagine a fog cloud that's red, and when it goes back up, if you've seen red moons.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The clouds that are hanging out up there that are causing the effect of red tend to be the vampire clouds.
Cristina: Oh, my God.
Jack: That's a collective of vampire clouds hanging out, changing the color of the sky. You've seen red clouds before.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: And so they just need an excessive amount sometimes even to the point that they're hurting people.
Cristina: And these aren't being kicked out or these are.
Jack: Once they crop now you can have all. You can become a red cloud and not be kicked out.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: But it's once humans start getting harmed, because that's dangerous for the treaty.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So at that point, you either solve the problem or we've got a problem.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: You get my point. And that's when the other clouds intervene. But right at the beginning, not necessarily. And in fact, there's probably some red clouds that maintain not being in trouble and staying. Red clouds. That's probably the minority. In fact, we see them rarely. We gotta literally just wait for a red moon for that to even see them.
Cristina: That's so cool.
Jack: But they do hide in plain sight. You know, they stay hidden. They stay away from. We see red nights come and they come out. And it's not that all clouds just turn red because the sky. No, there's white clouds everywhere. And then a portion of clouds that are red, they're kind of coming out because they can blend more easily.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And so, yeah, they're just kind of using the light that exists already to kind of hide in plain sight.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: But those are not outcasted. They just kind of live on the fringes of cloud society.
Cristina: And they are dangerous.
Jack: They're not dangerous. No, those are not dangerous. Yet. Once you start being dangerous, you get outcasted, you don't get to hang out up there. We don't see you.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: If we got to see you, you're not dangerous. Those are the ones that are succeeding. But what I mean is there's so few of them that are handling having become a red cloud, that once a year, maybe once every two, three years, we see some of them. A couple of them.
Cristina: So a lot of them get kicked out. Or maybe not many.
Jack: Not many go through that.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Yeah. Because they rather do, you know, who wants to go do heroin? You know, you've seen the heroin addict. Well, adrenochrome is kind of that for regardless of who's doing it.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Like if I gave you a bottle of adrenochrome, you're gonna do it.
Cristina: No.
Jack: Right. Like, okay, f*** adrenochrome. I kind of like my lucidity and not being dependent on some s***.
Cristina: Yes. Okay. That's pretty much the same thing.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Except magical. It's magical heroin. All right.
Jack: Magical is arguable. It's powers of some sort. I guess it's natural. It's from the natural world, which makes it powers. Right. Or the unnatural world makes it powers. And magic. No, because in order to be magical, it has to be mystical. Adrenochrome is science.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: That's powers. I guess that divides it. It has to be mystical.
Cristina: It's not mystical.
Jack: It's not mystical. We can Use all our knowledge to connect the dots of how everything works.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Ones and zeros our way through it. Yeah. Even how genetically it affects bodies.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: We have all of that.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: So it's science.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Okay, Cat people, science is not magic.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: It's so advanced, it looks like magic.
Jack: Mm.
Cristina: That's how it always goes.
Jack: That's how it always goes. That's them rules. But. So these vampire clouds, red clouds, they, you know, extract high quantities of blood usually. You'll see these things dwell really hard in cities. That's the beneficial place. You can go down a city block, think of New York City.
Cristina: But they're not going down like fogs. Then they can.
Jack: They do.
Cristina: They do.
Jack: They do.
Cristina: Yeah. Okay.
Jack: Sometimes. Most times, when there are regions where there is red clouds, you'll see regular clouds patrolling the area again. An example of a good example is New York City will often call a red cloud smog without knowing that it's just a f****** red cloud landing. And we see. We even feel ourselves suffocating to some degree. And it's because we're being milked almost. But we look up and we see the tops of buildings disappearing. And it's because the other clouds are coming down and watching. They're making sure. Ooh. You don't cross that line. Yeah, I'm watching you, buddy. We'll have trouble right here. So you. You can find the clouds patrolling, the red clouds right off the bat. They're usually in pairs, almost red clouds.
Cristina: Are there other colorful clouds out there?
Jack: There are. It's pretty much we'll refer to all of them as red clouds, although they're not necessarily red. It's just a lot of time. That's the hue they take because of the amount of blood that they've extracted.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. So they're sort of. We're seeing in their body to some degree.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So the reason that's that they're red clouds is because they're usually made up of the color of the blood that they've extracted. But there's many places where you can see red clouds, often times in deserts where everything is at ground level. And you'll see sandstorms, and there's always this big cloud in the front that's a army of red clouds just being aggressive and actively destroying anything in their path, looking for anything. They're feral. They don't have the thing they want. In fact, they're so dark that they've gone beyond the red cloud. And they're so secluded from people that They've gone beyond the point.
Cristina: Are they caught something?
Jack: Yes. And now the problem is that these clouds, these red clouds, in order to sustain their sanity again, they need to equate the amount of blood or get more.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: If you get less, you go crazy. You go crazy, you start feeling the urge for more. And when you don't get the right amount of blood from people, animals. Doesn't have to be people. Has to be anything.
Cristina: Yeah, Anything, I think.
Jack: Any creatures.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So at that point, you become a black cloud.
Cristina: Whoa. And that's the desert cloud you were talking about.
Jack: Desert clouds is f*** ton of usually writing. They're riding on the backs or the fronts. And in any case of sandstorms, these are just forces of nature getting together and f****** s*** up. So they're riding sandstorms. They're in the front of sandstorms and you can see them. Deep, deep, dark. You can't even see through it anymore.
Cristina: The sandstorm is trying to kick them out.
Jack: No, this is just like elephants walking around with zebras.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Just. Sometimes two things just make sense to hang out together, you know?
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Now, black clouds, these are the really, really dark clouds that we can't see through. When you get the warning on your phone, that is dangerous outside because clouds.
Cristina: And these are feral red clouds or these are not that these are feral red clouds.
Jack: Yes, These are red clouds that have lost the ability to control their average intake without being harmful. And in order to not get outcasted or murdered, they have less, which then makes them go feral and go crazy, and then they end up being destructive anyways.
Cristina: I wonder if this somehow relates to the king, though, because you said he was white, but he's also black. But also he has a red tongue. And maybe the red tongue isn't really red. It's not really a tongue, but maybe some redness is going on. Like he's. Maybe he's got some blood.
Jack: He could. He could definitely. But also not known to cause harm. We don't. Well, then again, we don't know.
Cristina: We don't know.
Jack: We don't know. The problem is we don't know anything about him. Akashita is a myth at this point.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: So we've had a couple of whispers here and there over thousands of years.
Cristina: Could be killing people. Maybe, maybe not.
Jack: Maybe, maybe not. We would never know.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Whatever the case might be, we still have a mutual enemy, so.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: But. So these black clouds, extremely destructive and dangerous. Often an omen of bad things to come. But why are they an omen? Of bad things to come. Well, what are these clouds ultimately? Well, we're still talking about fog clouds.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: At first we're just talking about regular fog clouds, then fog clouds that take excessive because again, it's just a way of life.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But when you start taking a lot, now we're going to call that adrenochrome. So before you're just drinking blood, but later a red cloud. We're going to call that amount of blood. Now you're consuming adrenochrome. Well, what happens when you consumed adrenochrome and became nice and powerful and then lost the adrenochrome? You became feral.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Black cloud. Now, we often refer to black clouds as omens of bad. You know, you got a black cloud around you, you always a black cloud over you, it's raining on you all the time. Or there's little drawings of a black cloud and a little lightning bolt always hitting you.
Cristina: Are there really clouds following us like that though?
Jack: Maybe. Yeah, totally. You could be talked by cloud. These clouds are f*****. And all clouds have an ability to shrink or expand. The more they expand, the more see through they become. And the more they contract, the darker they become. So in theory, you could have a cloud right over you that's super impossibly infinitely dark. And it's one of these f****** just waiting for its chance to just drain your a**.
Cristina: Whoa. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. So things that happen here. So black clouds are essentially fog clouds that reduce temperature and visibility by a lot. So you get. It gets really cold and it gets really dark. You can barely see. It's problematic. We literally get notifications on our phones.
Cristina: It wants you to cause some type of accident, probably so it's easier to take that body. Take from that body.
Jack: Something like that. Not necessarily that you're sort of in the ballpark. It doesn't want to cause you to die because it needs you alive.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah.
Jack: You know, but the way it happens is what's interesting. Right. So the ones you're thinking about are very particular instance in which corrupt winds and black clouds merge and oftentimes create something that's very similar to a tornado, Visually almost identical. But it's. Rather than a tornado that's made of dust and crap, it's picked up. I'm sure you've seen the images of a tornado that looks black. It's just pitch black. It's a black twister coming out of the ground as opposed to falling out of the sky.
Cristina: And that's still called a tornado.
Jack: We call it a tornado. We think of it the same way, but it's not. You can imagine it's a really, really, really dark dust devil.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And it's closer to something like that. And those are out there. They've lost their mind. They've stopped being reasonable in any capacity, and they're just actively destroying s*** until they exhaust all their energy and literally dissipate and cease existing.
Cristina: So that's not just a cloud, it's like a multiple of feral.
Jack: Yeah, it's a cloud that merged with corrupt wind and they became this thing.
Cristina: Yeah, this feral.
Jack: Yeah, it's a blob of things and not really merged, but because of how we see things, they look like one thing to us. Because they don't really merge. It's just through the perspective of our perception, I guess. Our perception makes it. Yeah, it makes it look that way. It's kind of like if we grabbed powdered iced tea and water and we threw the iced tea in there and shook it up and like, okay, now it's one.
Cristina: But it's not really like if we.
Jack: Could see it separate, we would.
Cristina: Or if you just didn't do anything, it would just fall to the bottom.
Jack: Yeah. Because it's not really mixed. It's just breaking up into such fine amounts that it looks we can actually boil one out of the other. They're not really mixed. You just need to change. You need the lowest boiling temperature so that the one that boils at a higher temperature stays while the other one boils away. Simple logic.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Can separate anything this way. The same logic applies to having the wind and the cloud. They're not really mixed, but we can't really tell the difference because of how we perceive the world.
Cristina: And there's no way we'll figure out how to, like, separate that.
Jack: No. So they both kind of die tangled in together. We could. They might be fighting for all we know.
Cristina: I was thinking maybe they're fighting because they don't want to kill us. Like if some. If people die, it's an accident.
Jack: Yeah. It could just be a guy. They got caught in the battle between winds and clouds.
Cristina: Yeah. Like, they were probably hungry for the same thing, but not in the imma murder these people, but because they're hunting sort of the same.
Jack: Well, actually, at this point, a black cloud doesn't give a s*** if it kills people. A lot of the time it leaves dead bodies. In scenarios where there are black clouds, there are often bodies that are found and not known what the f*** happened. A lot of time people think heart attacks, like the fear of the absolute solitude of everything being invisible around you suddenly gives people actual heart attacks. There's a weird phenomenon that has been talked about for hundreds of years, but it's probably that. That it's just people getting heart attacks out of the fear of solitude. Kind of looks like you're dead already because everything went black suddenly.
Cristina: Oh, my gosh, that sounds crazy. Yeah.
Jack: But the clouds don't give a f***. They're down to kill you because they're after the blood.
Cristina: Yes. All right.
Jack: Now, keeping in mind what it is we're talking about, though, we go right back to the fact that it's just a fog cloud. A fog cloud is the base. It's just a cloud. It's just a cloud. Yes, it's just a cloud. There's nothing different here. We start with cloud, then you start drinking blood, and you become a red cloud. And then you stop drinking blood after you've been drinking blood, and you become a black cloud.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Okay.
Cristina: These are all clouds.
Jack: All clouds. In every one of these instances, though, the facts of clouds hold up. The temperature gets cold.
Cristina: They're all made of ice.
Jack: They're made of ice. Everything is cold. They suck out the cold and. Which is beneficial for fog cloud because it comes down, your body, contracts, it sucks out. Good. Clever plan. They've figured out a way to not be harmful, but cold and a lack of visibility together elicit an interesting effect. Specifically in humans, we fear the unknown and the uncomfortable.
Cristina: That's why it's so easy to get stuff from us, though. That's why it's so easy to get the adrenochrome or the fear or whatever for these clouds.
Jack: Why?
Cristina: Because they just look scary enough.
Jack: Yeah. As the visibility goes down and we start getting paranoid and our minds start playing tricks on us, we start to get more scared and more scared. We get cold and the whole. Oh, my God, no.
Cristina: Then we imagine things like, there's a ghost lady walking out of that fog.
Jack: No, no, no, no, no. Now you're veering into the wrong direction. Yes. Because there's actual fear happening. Why would we need to imagine anything if the same thing that manifests creatures from the shadow realm is fear to begin with?
Jack: A giant cloud settles. Everything goes cold and dark. Everybody starts to get slowly paranoid increments of fear. But in population where it's settled now, we start to see s***. Because it's enough fear collectively to manifest the same way that the fog cloud.
Cristina: At the beginning, it's attracting more things.
Jack: It's attracting more things because it's making us scared. The same way the original cloud shows up and in a large region, extracts incremental bits of blood. This really twistedly dark cloud that we can't see more than a couple of feet in front of us. And the temperature is colder. We're just unnaturally uncomfortable. Just our anxiety levels start rising and our fear starts going up little by little. Little by little.
Cristina: And whatever's attracted to that is coming.
Jack: Exactly. Whatever is whatever can manifest through fear, regardless of us. So as we know, things have different amounts of fear. They require to manifest. Usually the more dangerous s*** needs a lot. So they'll show up in battlefields and after horrific activities happen, while the lesser things can show up with little bits. But a large population. These clouds are huge. 20, 30 blocks. It settles in a New York city. And there's how many million people in a couple of blocks?
Cristina: So how many things could be spawning?
Jack: It could mad s*** everywhere. Things from the other side just start popping up. When we start seeing s***, we see the things, we get paranoid. That makes us more scared. We got a domino effect. Because as we start to see things, more fear happens, the more fear allows bigger things to come through. And then we see that get more scared, and then we have a huge domino effect. So these clouds aren't just destructive in that they're taking lives, but they bring out the same way that the military cloud, the big kahuna.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Brings its own savages with it. All the other clouds are just aligned with it. Imagine that. But the most corrupt possible version, that instead of bringing your homies made of clouds, you bring in the demons from the other realm.
Cristina: Wow.
Jack: Which immediately makes that a problem for the clouds because again, we can easily toxify the air. So they need to get rid of those clouds. Yes, that's a huge problem because lives.
Cristina: Are getting lost and they're gonna end up in space. Then.
Jack: Yes. Gotta boot that out. We can't have them interacting with humans. That is very important.
Cristina: So, like, then things do come out of those fogs, like ghosts and.
Jack: Well, they don't really come out of them as much as it allows them to manifest.
Cristina: Yeah, I guess they're attracted to that.
Jack: Yes. But not ghosts. We know ghosts are just an echo from the past or the future or ripping something. But the things that we normally would interpret as ghosts, like banshees and f****** when dingoes and wetchudges and weird s*** like that, that is in the shadow realm.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Djinns everywhere, just walking shadows that horrify people. Which is the most Easy thing. A djinn barely needs anything to come through the shadow realm. Very little bits. And then we start seeing shadows inside the star cloud. Is that a person? Weird and distorted. And that's probably just a cloud distorting them.
Cristina: But that's the thing that pops up when you have a. What's it called this? The sleep paralyzing thing.
Jack: I mean, maybe I don't remember what shows up there because jinns are essentially the humans of, like, if you're a human, you more likely just a jinn on the other side. No.
Cristina: Yeah, I'm pretty sure they popped up in pop. There's stories of them popping up and killing people when they're having them.
Jack: Actually, I don't think jinn harm people. So there's. You're confusing that with something else. It must be something similar. But jinns are essentially just kind of people on the other end.
Cristina: Oh, whatever it is. Has a very similar name, I think.
Jack: Could be. But we know that jinn are just like, again, people from the other side. They're not necessarily dangerous. Not everything on the other side is dangerous. Only some of the stuff on the other side is truly aggressive.
Cristina: Very much so, yeah.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. The ones that are dangerous are really f****** dangerous. And then the other ones, like, okay, some s*** that's going on over there. But that explains how we end up with things coming through and see weird things associated to fogs. Usually really, really dark fogs, which is what horror movies tend to capitalize on a lot. The fact that really, really dark fogs decrease visibility, everything gets cold, and then weird s*** starts to happen. That's kind of the right order.
Cristina: They're basing it off real life.
Jack: Yeah, but it spirals. It always spirals. You start seeing the lesser things getting paranoid about that. More fear. Bigger things come through. See that get more paranoid, bigger things come through, and that just keeps happening.
Cristina: Until that cloud is kicked out.
Jack: Until that cloud is kicked out. And now to us, again, it's really hard to see and understand what's happening because we're at ground level and we're inside of the cloud. But from one moment to another, it'll still be foggy, but be a fog we can see through. And that's because at some point in that time, the patrol clouds came in, got rid of it, but they also came and, like, landed on us. And to us, it's the same thing.
Cristina: Yeah, like, we wouldn't be able to tell.
Jack: We can't tell. We don't notice when the other cloud gets kicked out because now we're just in a different cloud.
Cristina: What?
Jack: And we can't see too far. So it gets booted, disappears into wherever the f*** is. All the other clouds make sure it leaves.
Cristina: And then it's just replaced with another.
Jack: Cloud, essentially, from our point of view, yeah. It's been replaced in a way that we can't tell. But in reality, cloud came, you know, arrested him or booted him or however they handle their things, and then the other cloud goes away.
Cristina: Well, there's another dangerous cloud, but that was just the main dangerous cloud.
Jack: No, it's a. Basically, that's the main dangerous cloud. Yeah, it's just fog is the crooked cloud.
Cristina: What? Yeah, the fog. That's awesome.
Jack: Yes, the fog itself is. Now the fog itself isn't. The fog is just what we call a rogue cloud. It's just a cloud. There's nothing special about it. And it's slowly extracting blood, but in no dangerous way.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's the shaky ground that it lands on. There's a lot of fog that's innocent. Most fog is innocent. It's like heroin addicts again. We get that idea of what TV shows us, you know, oh, he's strung out. It's like, no, that's the guy who got the drug and then couldn't afford it. And then the need for it. He already had addictive tendencies and no money to support the habit. Thus crime. As opposed to the fact that a bunch of people do heroin, handle it perfectly fine, and aren't crazy thieves and addicts and murderers or anything. They're just, oh, I do heroin. Then when I don't have the money, I don't do heroin.
Cristina: Fogs, I guess. Okay.
Jack: Yeah, it's the same idea. Like, most fog does their thing, doesn't hurt anybody, goes live life.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Casual doctors that do cocaine, you know, normal s***.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: But then there's that one off once in a while that tips too far, and they try to hold it, try to hold it for. And some do. Some live that life of always on the edge, never hurting people.
Jack: That's why there's way less red clouds than there are fog clouds and are way less fog clouds than there are sky clouds, but there's way less black clouds than everything else because that s*** immediately gets dealt with.
Cristina: Yeah. The problem that it causes us too much.
Jack: All the white clouds don't like that truce. The truce is in danger. All the red clouds have to deal with it, too, because you're making us f****** look bad and we're not like you. And all the fog Clouds. I ain't even in that deep, bro. Don't give me a bad name. So kind of every cloud just turns on these clouds. They are unanimously exiled from their society.
Cristina: But they don't really know what's going on. They're out of their minds.
Jack: The. Yeah, the black clouds don't know. They're just crazy. They've lost it.
Cristina: They've lost it.
Jack: Flung into wherever the f*** and just wander aimlessly. Crazy. Don't give a s***.
Cristina: Yeah, they're just looking for more blood.
Jack: Yeah, and they'll never find it. Or if they do, like, poor other race. They need to find a race that has blood. As far as we know, that's an Earth thing. We don't know. We don't know if any creature from any other planet has blood. The cockroach people didn't have blood.
Cristina: So you're saying the cat people don't have blood?
Jack: Well, the cat people were human. Not human. They're from Earthly Earthlings.
Cristina: Yes, they're Earthlings.
Jack: They were the original intelligent civilization where.
Cristina: We'Re like some experiment they did or something?
Jack: No, we're just the other thing that evolved.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: They left as we were evolving.
Cristina: Oh, yes, yes.
Jack: It's not really. It just things that evolved on Earth came from the same original organism. And it evolved to have blood. That is the way it happens.
Cristina: Yeah. Now, but then, are these adrenochrome things, Is it just happening on this planet? Because we have.
Jack: Yes, I think so.
Cristina: Blood and everything.
Jack: Adrenochrome is exclusive to Earth and the Shadow Realm only. Seems that things from Earth go in there other than things that exist from there now. Things that have always existed in there. Maybe they can manifest anywhere.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: I don't know how the rules.
Cristina: Yeah, we don't know, you know, but.
Jack: We know that adrenochrome is a way there. Maybe there's other ways in there.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Maybe there's other things similar to adrenochrome.
Cristina: But we don't know.
Jack: But we don't know.
Cristina: That's the main source, as far as we can tell at the moment.
Jack: Yeah. To our knowledge.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Now, that just deals with the oddity of rogue clouds that take the adrenochrome route. But that's not the only rogue clouds that exist. There are clouds that entirely exile themselves from society. Enter the hexagonal clouds.
Cristina: Why is it called that?
Jack: Well, they're a group of clouds that, rather than taking normal cloud shape, have all opted into a hexagon shape.
Cristina: That's a real thing.
Jack: It's a real thing. It could be seen through satellites. You could see them collected. The problem is, on average, they are all inside of a compound of a cloud. Compound, A barrier of winds. So there's a collective of winds protecting these clouds. And these clouds reside inside a shape and structure that we're quite familiar with. The Bermuda Triangle.
Cristina: Okay. Yes.
Jack: The three sides of this triangle is keeping them out.
Cristina: Or keeping them in, I guess, Whatever.
Jack: Keeping Its creating just a barrier and think you get in or out, but it's a barrier, and they live it within that barrier.
Cristina: Yeah. They can't get out.
Jack: They could get out.
Cristina: They could.
Jack: Yeah. There's hexagonal clouds in other places.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. That's not. The barrier isn't untraversable. This is a barrier.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: And it's just drawing lines. You know, it's drawn lines. And so it's inside of this structure is what. Through our understanding, processing it our way. Because, again, we don't understand cloud society. But looking at it from our perspective, it's essentially a cloud cult. Yeah, it's a cloud cult. They have a compound. Other clouds. Don't f*** with it. They're in there. And there's two strange facts about here, about this area.
Cristina: What?
Jack: One, all the clouds have opted into hexagonal shapes as opposed to the normal bubbly cloud shape or streaks, which are most clouds. They've taken a geometric shape.
Cristina: That's weird. Okay.
Jack: Second, everyone who goes through and comes out the other side reports a very similar thing. If they went through in a plane.
Cristina: What's that?
Jack: The one thing they can make out is a perfectly spherical cloud. 1. One perfectly spherical cloud in there. In the Bermuda Triangle.
Jack: What.
Cristina: What does that mean?
Jack: I don't know. And they usually go through that cloud when whatever time warp happens. That's usually around the point that things get weird. So we know this is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the cult leader. Yes. Now, this is definitely not Akashita, and Akashita is definitely not in there because of how weird and different it is. But whatever cloud is in there is a particularly powerful cloud in its own right.
Cristina: It's warping time, not doing anything dangerous enough that they're gonna kick it out. Like, what's stopping them from kicking him out or out?
Jack: It looks like any cloud that goes in there and is not part of the group just ceases to exist or becomes part of the group. So they're dangerous to clouds.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: So other clouds are like, well, leave them in there. Just stop them from coming out in any Case the winds could be barriers agreed upon by the clouds and wind that we will patrol this region. And if they get out, we immediately let you know that one of them came out.
Cristina: So it could be like a jail.
Jack: It could be like a jail. Not really, because they can get out. They could just walk out if they want. It's more of a line. We won't f*** with you guys if you don't cross that line.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Whoa.
Jack: And humans know we should probably stay away from there.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: So on average, most people do.
Cristina: Most people, yeah.
Jack: And anybody who goes through, well, you had to come in, you know, to stay away from there.
Cristina: And they go through a special round cloud.
Jack: When they come in contact with the round cloud, that's when the time gets warped. And then usually 1, 2 times to 3 times the amount of time gets shaved off their traveling distance. So they're almost being flung through.
Jack: If they're not being fully dragged out of the sky or sunken into the water.
Cristina: Which is usually what happens.
Jack: Which is usually what happens.
Jack: So it's hard to really tell what's happening in the walls of the compound because so few come out. And when they do, they've usually been inside of an unclear brown cloud, though.
Cristina: Sounds like it's just really aggressive towards planes or I guess, whatever. Like, the things. He's, like, pushing them out. He's not trying. It's not.
Jack: He's not hurting anything. Yeah, no, he's not hurting. Yeah, he's flinging them out quickly like.
Cristina: Some of them are going to die. And that's how we get a bunch of stories of people who died. But it's because he's trying to kick them out. He doesn't want them there.
Jack: Well, we don't really know if that's the case, because the only times that there is no harm. Then again, we don't know. We don't know what happens to the other people, but we know that everybody who makes it out reports the cloud, as opposed to the possibility that everybody who doesn't never comes in contact with the leader. You just come in contact with all the croonies.
Jack: And they're over here, vicious psychopaths. Chances are, not seeing the leader is the worst thing that could happen to you in there.
Cristina: And then you die.
Jack: Yeah. Because he's not there to stop it.
Cristina: He's just trying to get you out before someone else gets to you.
Jack: Yeah. He's like, get the f*** out of my territory. But because I don't. Who knows what they'll do to you. You're lucky you came across me, you know, because I can hold them back. But it seems by our understanding, some sort of cult takes place there.
Cristina: I wonder what the cult is about. And is it somehow blood related?
Jack: Doesn't seem. Then again, it could be. People are dying in there. Yes, but it's not enough. It's in. It's a huge area and the amount of life loss is so insignificant.
Cristina: We don't know about the life under the sea. I guess under it or not affecting that.
Jack: Yeah, that's perfectly fine.
Jack: Oh, okay.
Jack: It's really just things that are over the water that are f*****.
Jack: Interesting.
Cristina: Interesting. Yeah.
Jack: So that's a huge mystery. We don't know what the f***. We don't know. What's the point of it? We just know that there is a barrier. I don't know if the barrier is with them or against them, but there is a wind barrier. They can traverse it, but there's for some reason these lines created by wind currents.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And inside of this area is just a. Essentially the barrier creates a compound of rogue clouds that just outcasted themselves from society and just.
Cristina: Wow, that's so weird.
Jack: It's very strange.
Cristina: What if it is a cult? I don't know. What would that even mean?
Jack: What would that mean? Yeah, exactly. Because we. Again, we're just projecting our understanding of how world works.
Cristina: Yeah. One round cloud. There's something going on, though.
Jack: There's something weird there.
Cristina: Yes, yes.
Jack: And these are just the outcloud. Outcast clouds that are truly fascinating. So there's. We know that there's a lot of civilian clouds.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: And we haven't gone through. There's no point in depicting civilians. They just are people living lives, doing whatever they do. Then we went through. Yeah. Nothing special. And we went through government, essentially, which is heavily militarized. Heavily militarized for clouds.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: And then those are the good guys.
Cristina: Because there can be some dangerous clouds.
Jack: There could be some dangerous clouds. Not necessarily fog, but fog is already, you know, gray area. Well, you know, a lot of people, not a lot, but, you know, some lose their minds on this. Why are you doing it? I can handle it. You know, you're already morally gray to some degree. You're willing to do things that are weird.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: And then we have the clouds that are fully committed. We're out here draining. And if we cross the line, well, too bad. I'm down to take the risk. I like this enough. Well, and the one they can't. Black clouds. Problematic. They usually get outcasted, which Is why rarely is that ever a thing. And then these freaks out there in the middle of the f****** ocean just hanging out, what the f*** are they doing? Hopefully if we get to Akashita he can tell us. Or if not, at least some of these other clouds might be able to pass the word and maybe unite.
Cristina: Gotta figure out that mystery too.
Jack: Yeah, maybe he can give us information. Well, they're not doing anything to any of us, so we don't really have anything to solve. More of a curiosity of what's really happening.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Yeah. Now those are all just rogue clouds, but without including the civilian clouds. There are God tier clouds that we need to address and we touched on them before. But the God tier clouds are probably what the again, Cat people have escalated to God tier themselves. Problematic. So we're gonna go through some of these God tier clouds.
Cristina: Are they on the same level as the God cloud we're looking for?
Jack: No, the God cloud we're looking for is Back to the example, Kami.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So we're gonna go one up and say the King Kai of the God Tier level clouds is a demigod ish gas planet. It's just a giant cloud the size of a planet, usually just guarding an area in space. And sometimes there's two or three of them together next to each other hanging out.
Cristina: Wait, these are gas planets?
Jack: Yeah, these are just giant clouds in space the size of planets. Huge colossal clouds.
Cristina: Okay, and they're called what?
Jack: They're just, they're just gas planets.
Cristina: Oh, they're just called.
Jack: Okay, yeah, they're gas planets.
Cristina: Like that's just a planet made out of clouds.
Jack: Yeah, it's not made out of clouds. It's a cloud.
Cristina: A cloud.
Jack: Oh, the size of a planet.
Cristina: Yes, that's a huge cloud.
Jack: It's a huge cloud, but it's nowhere near the hugest cloud. But these clouds are usually, you know, size of planets, sometimes a little bit bigger than the average planet. Like all the gas giants in our system are larger than Earth is. They're f****** huge. How many Earths could you fit in our gas giant? Like quite a couple.
Cristina: Yes, a lot. Yeah, yeah, it's huge.
Jack: Huge. So this is a big daddies, you know, they're over here not giving a f***.
Cristina: Oh, a bunch of clouds. Bigger daddies.
Jack: Just bigger daddies. Yes. But these clouds, they hang out, they chill the same way planets do. They follow orbit the same way planets do, which is essentially patrolling and they are in contact with bigger. Now we disrespect things in nature on average and we Ignore the fact that the ruler of our entire system and every system that has ever existed is a f****** cloud to begin with.
Cristina: The sun.
Jack: The sun is the every system. It's a fire cloud focused on a cloud. A cloud holds the system together.
Cristina: Think of it as a fireball, but it's a fire.
Jack: It's all gas. Yeah, it's all gas.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: The only reason that it's fire to begin with, as opposed to a ball of lava, is because it's gas.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Otherwise it wouldn't be fire. It would just be a ball of lava just compressed.
Cristina: Yeah. And that wouldn't. Like, how long could that last as lava? And wouldn't be shiny like this, would it?
Jack: No, it would be very dark.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Not to say that there aren't solid things in space that are shiny as well, because there are. Keep in mind, some of these stars can collapse and become solid.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: That happens often.
Jack: Mmm.
Cristina: Okay, that's weird.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: Now the saying gas is collapsing.
Jack: Yeah. Gas collapses and make solid. Isn't ice just solid? And isn't a cloud made of ice in the first place? So it's a sort of neither solid nor gas.
Cristina: No. Okay. Yeah. We're messing with a lot of different stages.
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It's very strange. So in the case of a star, every system that exists surrounds a star. The star is the Grand Kai of the God Tier system.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: While, you know, on Earth we have Akashita and he's Kami. Then we go up one and we got our gas giants and they're like King Kai. We go to the highest skill within what we would call the actual system. And that's just a giant God Tier cloud.
Cristina: But it keeps going up though, right?
Jack: Yeah, it goes up one more time.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And so this giant God Tier level cloud holds. Literally holds a cloud, literally holds the entire system together. It makes sure the planets don't fly away. It creates a barrier of rocks at two different stages, the inner and outer belts.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And you can say that the structure of this, these rocks, is a cloud itself. It's a solid cloud of sorts. In fact, isn't one of them called the Orc cloud?
Cristina: What are you talking about? The belts.
Jack: The belts. The belts of rock surrounding us. I'm pretty sure one of them is called the Oort cloud. Okay, see, so the outside. Outside the actual belt is something we would call the Oort cloud.
Cristina: And that's a cloud just protecting the belt.
Jack: Yeah, that's a. That's a collective effort. If a giant cloud that stretches, surrounding in a sphere, the Entire radius of the gravitational pull of the star. That's teamwork right there. Yeah, that's the sun in the middle. A great powerful cloud holding everything else inside. And then a giant, giant, giant cloud surrounding the entire outer shell. Yes. Like all the other clouds made of ice surrounding the entire outer shell. So how big is that f****** cloud?
Cristina: That sounds ridiculous.
Jack: So now we go from the Grand Kai. Actually, that goes the other way. It would be Akashita is Kami, then King Kai is our gas planet. Then the star is the Supreme Kai. And then the Grand Kai, the much bigger, larger, ancient, is the outer gas cloud right outside the belt.
Cristina: That's the biggest.
Jack: That is not the biggest.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: Because then we still have to keep in mind that Master Zeno exists. And interesting enough, which one's Master Zeno? Zeno is the one who created the entire universe.
Cristina: Oh.
Jack: And we literally have that as a cloud. Those are the nebula, the largest of all structures. They literally make the stars that allow systems to form in the first place, then allows life to happen on some systems. The gods of our actual universe are clouds. Or clouds.
Cristina: We were made by cloud gods?
Jack: Yeah, we were made by clouds. People escalated to the point that the gods that become the nebula are being imprisoned because a star explodes into a nebula.
Cristina: Why? Okay.
Jack: That's the evolution. The evolution of a star that has become powerful enough and godly enough is to become a nebula and then give birth to more stars.
Cristina: They've captured who knows how many.
Jack: They made sure nebula cannot happen around them.
Cristina: Yeah. It's their problem. Okay.
Jack: Power.
Cristina: Power. Yeah.
Jack: Like Albert Wesker. More power or we think. We don't know. We can't talk to them. And they're freaking. People don't freaking. They're good at keeping s***. So we don't know s***.
Cristina: There's so much mystery going on. I don't know.
Jack: And that's really the entirety of the clouds. That's all the clouds that are in civilian.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: All the rogue weird clouds, the Cult of Clouds, the Fogs, and all the variants with Adrenochrome.
Cristina: It's amazing.
Jack: Yeah. And then the God Clouds, Akashita. Gas planets, stars, the outer shell.
Cristina: I know the Cat People are our enemies and all, but if. What if they're not? What they're doing looks bad, but what if they're trying? What if one of these giants became a rogue cloud, though? Is that not a possibility?
Jack: What do you mean?
Cristina: One of these giant cloud gods became a soup. Like a super giant cloud God just became rogue and they were containing it. But I Guess that would be for its power. So I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Like, it's a good thing for us because it's not coming to attack us. But also, they're using its power to take control of us. Why are we mad at them again? But they want to take over, right?
Jack: Yeah. They already tried to take over Earth before, or at least the people they left here did. Yeah, and I successfully stopped that. But we already know that they do that, and they seem to be succeeding elsewhere.
Cristina: Yes, but what if that's what they're doing, though?
Jack: Well, we know that there's rogue stars all the time. There are a bunch of stars that aren't part of any system. They're not part of a galaxy. They're just flinging out.
Cristina: Yeah, but could there be a rogue evil giant?
Jack: Yes. We call those black holes. They literally devour everything around them. It's a cloud that, instead of becoming a solid piece of rock or a nebula, became a hole that devours everything around it. Kind of like the black cloud. It's a black hole.
Cristina: Okay. Yeah. So that could be what's over there.
Jack: Well, you're basically telling me that they put a bunch of. It wouldn't make any sense. It would make no sense. You're telling me every single thing out there is a black hole? What, just a bunch of black holes happened around one another?
Cristina: No, just one humongous hu.
Jack: At the size of that. It would pull the entire observable universe into it.
Cristina: Oh, okay.
Jack: Yeah. We wouldn't see anything. We would have been sucked. We could be in it right now. We wouldn't ever see a black hole that size, because we'd be in it.
Cristina: Okay, then that's not it.
Jack: Yeah. Space would still look normal everywhere we looked, because everything is inside the black hole.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: It would be so big, we would never get stretched out in any direction. We just fall into it for all of infinity and never notice. Which could be literally what's happening right now. We would never know.
Cristina: We would never know. So, no. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. But what we're seeing is not that. There's definitely something wrong. And all we can think about to explain it is we know that the people. That the cat people told us the cat gods headed in that direction. We also found technology aiming things in that direction, and we sent a team in that direction that never came back.
Cristina: Yeah, we're not gonna do that again.
Jack: No, we need reinforcements. We need things that can handle things way greater than us. Gods versus Gods. Because the Cat people, okay? They're way there. Their cat gods are gods. If you can imprison a star. Holy f***.
Cristina: There's nothing we can do about that.
Jack: There's little. Little. We need the ability to communicate with a star in the first place. And for that, we need to talk to the big kahuna of the clouds in order to get that done. And then perhaps they can talk to the closest thing, which is the gas giant that's around us. And then that gas giant could perhaps send the word to our local star, the sun.
Cristina: Just make this message travel.
Jack: We got to get this message to travel.
Cristina: All right.
Jack: The thing is, things like the star we can't communicate with directly. It's impossible for us to understand how to even fathom that. It could be talking right now and it wouldn't sound like anything. It's so big.
Cristina: Yeah, it's probably. Yeah. Like, even if we try to use Steve to talk to it, it probably wouldn't work out.
Jack: Would make sense, right?
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: And, like, could we understand how to communicate with the Oort cloud? Like.
Cristina: Yeah, none of that. I don't know.
Jack: Like, it leaves the realm of our understanding at some point.
Cristina: We need this cloud God.
Jack: Yeah. We need something that's more understandable. And this seems to have at least some human attributes.
Cristina: Yeah. Even if we can't talk to him, we know someone who could probably.
Jack: Yes, we have the bridge to that. And if we can get the message to go down the line from that point.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: Then we're good.
Cristina: Yes. Okay.
Jack: That's what's important here. So these are just. That's. That's it. That's pretty much the report. The. All the rogue clouds and the God Tier clouds.
Cristina: But then Bermuda Triangle. What?
Jack: Yeah, it's a weird one. Just an odd cloud cult. That is weird.
Cristina: That is so weird.
Jack: I mean, it's kind of weird that cat people have advanced. They were just like us at some point. And they've advanced so far technologically that they're competing with stars.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: That's weird.
Cristina: I guess. But you wouldn't imagine something like clouds to be doing the same thing. I don't know.
Jack: They were cults surrounding the cat people.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: This is a normal thing of intelligent life.
Cristina: What if they're occult to the cat people? They're in a triangle. I don't know. The. Not the Bermuda Triangle. Well, that's a triangle, but also the people who are worshiping the cats had the pyramids.
Jack: The pyramid is a diamond. We just seeing half of it.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: Yeah, because it's A whole tunnel system underground and everything.
Cristina: Yeah.
Jack: Is this a diamond?
Jack: Mmm.
Jack: We happen to see the tip. That looks kind of like a triangle. Yeah, but I doubt it. On a flip side, who the f*** knows, man? They could, in theory, just be. And that's why the rest of the cloud people are like, get the f*** out of here. You know what I mean? I guess it could be political, right? Like, well, maybe the cat people aren't that wrong.
Cristina: It could be. Oh, my gosh. What if it is? Yeah.
Jack: Political differences. And they're like, okay, you f****** nut job, go be in your f****** private compound.
Jack: Mm.
Jack: So, I don't know. Could be a prison. Maybe they're all guilty of doing things that they shouldn't have and that they all got put there.
Cristina: Yes. Using some cat technology.
Jack: It doesn't even have to be cat technology. It just could be completely unrelated criminals.
Jack: Mmm.
Cristina: Okay.
Jack: And all get thrown in there. And maybe the guy who became the toughest instead forced everybody to look hexagonal. And then he made himself a sphere. And he's like, I'm the big kahuna. When you can get rid of me, you can be a circle.
Cristina: Weird. I love it.
Jack: Yeah. Who the f*** knows what's happening? We need answers. We need answers, and the only way is to get Akashita or to get one of these other clouds to communicate with us. If we can't find Akashita. But the best way would be to go to the top, right?
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Get our top to talk their top, get those messages going. But if we can't and Steve can't track him down, then we got no option but to communicate with somebody lower. And perhaps he'll pop up.
Cristina: Yeah, it could happen.
Jack: Still, take us to your leader.
Cristina: Take us? Yes. That's pretty much what we got to do, huh?
Jack: Yeah. Akashita's elusive, but so are the cat people. Yeah, man, it's weird. There's a lot of s*** out there. We get. We found Bigfoot sooner than the f*** out of here.
Cristina: Did you end up keeping that child?
Jack: Yeah.
Cristina: Did you name him?
Jack: No, not yet.
Cristina: Ah, okay.
Jack: But anyways, if you guys want to learn more about clouds, you can go to last week's episode. And if you want to learn more about cat people, they're spread out throughout many, many episodes.
Cristina: Many.
Jack: Yeah. Where we try to pin this down. And actually, Steven, Phil, you can find out a couple of weeks ago, months ago, at this point, two, three months, when Phil first came in. When Phil first died and Ste came into the picture because we needed to fix that Problem, which was our creation to begin with. You can find all of that at the official website greathoughts.info or on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Cristina: And you can reach us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. Uscombopod.
Jack: Yes. And remember to rate, review and subscribe to the show. It's always great to do all of that stuff. And you'll get notified quickly.
Cristina: Yes. And let someone who might like this show know about it.
Jack: Yes. Word of mouth. People tell somebody about clouds and the fact that there's a cloud cult and the fact that probably they didn't realize that their entire universe is run by clouds to begin with. Clouds made the stars that made the planets that made life.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: Clouds be your daddies.
Cristina: Yep. And then from stars we come from clouds, I guess, is really the correct statement.
Jack: Well, star is a cloud. We're all made of stardust.
Cristina: Yes.
Jack: So another sentence would just be, we're all made of cloud dust.
Cristina: Cloud dust. Yes. Now tell everyone that it's cloud dust.
Jack: Yes.
Cristina: But they've been saying it wrong this whole time.
Jack: Yeah, kind of. Well, I guess. I guess not really.
Cristina: Not really.
Jack: Stars are the names of clouds.
Cristina: Yeah. Do both. Anyways.
Jack: And nebula is a really expanded star as opposed to a really contracted star.
Cristina: Nebula. Okay.
Jack: Yeah. We can see through a nebula. We can't see through a star.
Cristina: No.
Jack: But they both glow.
Cristina: Cool.
Jack: Cool.
Cristina: Interesting. Learn about science and stuff. We have episodes like that, too.
Jack: Yes. In which we actually talk about space and black holes and stars and all that good stuff.
Cristina: Yes. This has been the Rambling Podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening.
Jack: Bye.
Cristina: What happened to Derek?
Jack: He became a robot. He didn't even get replaced by robot.
Cristina: No, he's just.
Jack: He morphed into a robot. I bet that's gonna happen sooner or later.
Cristina: Didn't he have a ghost robot? A robot ghost?
Jack: No, no. Okay. No, no, no. Something way more complicated than that. So I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the way this played out is that first germs became a ghost in the system, and then. No, actually, the whole other problem, because, man, I forgot about that narrative. We lost that piece of lore somewhere down the line, didn't we? Because it was that or one of them.
Cristina: You.
Jack: There's five jacks.
Cristina: Yes. There's a ghost robot. Who. He was.
Jack: He was originally from N*** Germany.
Cristina: No, he was. He was. He was in 911 giving out drugs.
Jack: No, that's a different. That's a different. Totally unrelated because you got to understand that he was 64 years old. He lived 64 years, and then he died. And lived 64 years as a ghost. And then he was repaired with ghost technology.
Cristina: Good morning. Good morning. The podcast is hosted by Christina Collazo and Jack Thomas, produced by Lynn Taylor and published by great dots.info art by 0lupo and logo by Seth McAllister, with social media managed by Amber Black.